West Indies news October 13, 2012

West Indies should aim for No. 1 in ODIs - Clive Lloyd

ESPNcricinfo staff

Clive Lloyd, the former West Indies captain, has said the World Twenty20 winning West Indies team should now aim for the "next level" by targeting the No.1 ranking in ODIs. "The win suggests that we can be a good ODI outfit. This is the start, the impetus that we needed to excel in the longer version," he told Daily News and Analysis.

Lloyd, who led West Indies to World Cup wins in 1975 and 1979, said he expected the team to do well in Sri Lanka, as it had explosive batsmen and decent bowlers who are capable of performing the same way in longer formats.

"Out of the 15 big hitters in the world, six belong to our team. They are all phenomenal strikers," he said. "It gives them impetus on the field. They know they can go out there and dominate. That's what they must do in the longer version too. Apart from Chris Gayle, we have [Marlon] Samuels who's growing in confidence in both Tests and ODIs. We have a couple of good spinners and decent fast bowlers, basically an attack that can dislodge any opponent. We're close to being quite a balanced side."

Lloyd added the team needed to identify its players for different formats. "Someone like Kieron Pollard can do the kind of job Andrew Symonds did for Australia. Pollard is explosive and can be a handful down the order. We have enough bowlers to choose from - both pace and spin.

"At least we have two spinners who are able to confuse the batters," Lloyd spoke of Sunil Narine and Samuel Badree, both of whom played important roles in Sri Lanka. "In the longer format, we'll know how good they are. In the one-day game, I don't think too many people will attack them and be successful."

West Indies' T20 title was their first major international success since the 2004 Champions Trophy, but Lloyd said the current team appeared stronger than the 2004 winners. "They are gelling together. They seem to be quite happy when they go out there. Nothing seems to faze them. And they're showing purpose. You have got to give credit to the captain."

Lloyd said he was happy to see Gayle back in the team, as he was a "decent fellow" to work with. "Chris just wanted to be back. He looks a really happy soul. Once he is happy, I'm happy. He creates that force and sort of generates the warmth needed for team spirit. I don't think he's giving the establishment any problems. They had one little spat."

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  • private1 on October 15, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    To finish off my comment on this page, I would say to you Windies fans, you should be proud of your teams success. I have nothing but the admiration for what they achieved, as I had given them no chance and no hope before the tournament began. Also I have no problem with you celebrating your win, If I were in your position I would do exactly the same. I am not a hater, I just love good cricket. As I said before and I say again, I hope this win inspires the Windies to do better in the other formats.

  • Andrew on October 15, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    @ Sinhaya on (October 13 2012, 11:32 AM GMT) - whilst the WIndies didn't have much in the way of a travelling fan base, in Oz they were heavily supported & admired by Ozzys & Neutrals. Their pay cheques weren't what you get today, but it was a relatively lucrative tour, but they had to work hard for it as they were here for months on end!

  • Andrew on October 15, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (October 14 2012, 04:07 AM GMT) - I think their pitches (can't say for sure), have become slower due to a lack of investment in infrastructure. Pitches have a life expectancy to when they need to be relaid. I am not sure when any oth their pitches have been relaid, but they seem to be the way the SCG was in the 80s. i think you're right though, the WIndies need to get some of their old pitches back & bring back the chin-music!

  • private1 on October 14, 2012, 23:52 GMT

    I note that some people are making comments that some people including myself are trying to belittle or denigrate the West Indies achievement in winning the cup. This is not so, when they won the cup, I also congratulated them on their victory. What is annoying is the comments from some Windies fans and a few other so called neutrals that suddenly the West Indies is the best T20 side in the world since sliced bread. I want to point out a couple of things, first of all it is not the fault of the Windies the hand that they were dealt, they played the games that befell them, they took the opportunities and won them fair and square. All I was stating was that all teams need a little luck, but the West Indies had the luck of winning the lottery. Having said that based on the matches played and performances in the tournament, despite the cup, they are NOT the best T20 side in the world. Anyone who loves and knows cricket, also knows this to be true.

  • Michael on October 14, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    As a West Indian I will not allow anyone to take this moment away from me. I have suffered long and hard over these years and it's only right that I have my time to celebrate. Whether you want to say it's luck or not it really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that we are the champions of the world at T20 and anyone who doesn't like that too bad. Anyone who wants to correct this will have to wait two years. IT IS AS IT SHOULD BE.

  • Dummy4 on October 14, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    Wow! It's interesting to see how individuals can downgrade the importance of a win. A win is a win, regardless of a favourable group, or luck or one hour of good cricket. The Windies team did not construct the groups or the tournament format, luck always favours the brave and one hour of good cricket in a three hour game is significant. Let's admit that the win was well earned and it is better to build on positive results than negative. the next two to three years will be an indicator of the progression of West Indies cricket - whether up or down. YEAH.......GO WINDIES!!!!!

  • Dummy4 on October 14, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    its amazing that people say that west indies victory was a fluke because they did not play india, pakistan and south africa,but they beat the team that beat all those teams austrailia,you all are sore losers

  • P on October 14, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    WI is over analyzing their win. After they batted in the finals they were set to lose. They won because of one hour of good cricket. That one hour does not mean anything in bigger scheme of things. The current team does not have any potential to be sustainable #1 ODI team for next 5 years. After that, it could be anybody's game. Ironically, WI spin department is great. Fast bowling is noting special and batting is OK. The current talent can get the team to middle or upper middle ranking numbers. If they get to #1 in ODI then they will be replaced soon.

  • Sage on October 14, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    I like The West Indies very much even when they were under Clive Lloyd. But T20 suit them better and it was very bad day for Sri Lanka and if the toss was won by Sri Lanka it would have been a different story but it didn't and West Indies rightly Won the finals. ODI is little different and i do not think West Indies have the right bowling side to make it to No1. I hope the WI board does not mess with this winning team and continue to help them...Sri Lankan tour to the West indies next year will be a show case

  • David on October 14, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    What some people are suggesting on here is total rubbish! W I did not win the World T20 by fluke or luck! You can't win a world event by luck! Those who suggest WI were lucky against Australia in the 1st round game, should just think, Australia still had to go at 9 an over for 10 overs and anything could have happened, Australia were lucky because they had a daunting 191 to chase and they realised the weather would intervene, therefore with all wickets in hand, just smashed carefree and as long as they were ahead in Duckworth Lewis, they would have escaped! W I then came back to beat them in the Semis thoroughly! Which proves my point! They also lost to Sri Lanka and came back to beat them in the final! Like true Champions do, so please stop hating, it just shows bad sportsmanship. As for what Sir Clive Lloyd is saying, he only suggests that being number 1 in ODI format, to be the target, he never said they will! WI fans are not getting big headed, we are just celebrating, allow it!

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