West Indies news August 19, 2014

Uncertainty over Ottis Gibson's future as West Indies coach

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Ottis Gibson's status as West Indies coach is shrouded in uncertainty on the eve of the one-day series against Bangladesh. He was not present at the team's training session in St George's, Grenada, on Monday ahead of the first ODI on Wednesday. Assistant coach Stuart Williams oversaw practice, and is likely to take charge for an interim period.

The Trinidad Express reported that WICB president Dave Cameron confirmed Gibson's absence from training and said the board was in "discussions" with him. "He is not in Grenada, that much we can confirm," Cameron reportedly said. "Nothing [else] that I wish to confirm at this time. We are in discussions."

Gibson began his tenure as West Indies coach in February 2010. Since then West Indies have played 29 Tests, of which they have won nine and lost 16; 90 ODIs, winning 36 and losing 48; and 45 T20 internationals, winning 22 and losing 21.

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  • on August 20, 2014, 0:23 GMT

    He Gibson was allowed to mess with WI cricket to the point that even the great Clive LLoyd will find difficulty in putting together a reasonable team.Shiv a quality player whose stats and performances speak volumes was almost eliminated from international cricket.He managed to strike him off the ODI. Why keep him?

  • on August 19, 2014, 22:22 GMT

    looking at the quotes that are post here show the bias opinion of you all I personally believe that until the players decide that they want and are willing to put in the effort to improve West Indies cricket will continue to be the laughing stock of World cricket, we have not produce a quality batsman or bowler of the highest quality since 1995 only Chris Gayle and Ramnaresh Sarwan with more than 4000 test runs and Fidel Edwards with more than 150 wickets is not good enough to win international cricket matches so there is the problem not who the coach is.

  • on August 19, 2014, 22:21 GMT

    A foriegn coach has not worked and it will never work.The main cause is that all West Indies Test players are forced by the WICB to return to the West Indies and play in the local cricket matches arranged by the WICB to be considered for selection in Test Matches. Gradually all upcoming West Indies players have not been playing League and County Cricket in England as they had been doing since the 1930's,starting with Learie Constantine and George Headley.My suggestion is that once you discover a talented player that shows a lot of promise take the next step and get him a contract in League or County Cricket in England.When West Indies dominated Test Cricket for 15 years every cricketer had a background in League or County Cricket.Frank Worrell said it in his book" In league cricket you come up against so many different varieties of bowling you meet swerve,spin,varing pace-the lot.It gives the cricketer from the tropics invaluable experience of English weather and English wickets."

  • true_connoisseur on August 19, 2014, 21:16 GMT

    I do not know whether Otis Gibson is a good coach or not, but he seemed to bring some much needed discipline to a very undisciplined team. It seems to me he had more successes with this team than the three foreign coaches who had the benefit of a few "great" players: Lara, Ramdin, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Samuels, Gayle, and Bravo. Like all coaches Gibson has strengths and weaknesses.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    yes, WI should have a foreign coach. Since the players are very poor in performing, a senior coach from overseas may bring some success than present. He will set a side politics brings in who can be good for the country regardless of age.

  • JoshFromJamRock on August 19, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Don't know how this will turn out, but from my own observation no cricketer (new or experienced) has improved during his tenure. The "big three" of Gayle, Sars & Shiv were all victims while the performances of the young and talented have stagnated and declined.

    I believe Sir Curtly Ambrose should be made coach for 6 reasons.

    1. He's a legend of the game (brings a lot of weight)

    2. He's just got this "vibes" to him that makes you, even as a watcher, want to be in his presence.

    3. He knows the group of players already being the bowling coach so the transition will be smoother.

    4. Since his appointment as bowling coach, the bowling selections and performances have been admirable. He gets results.

    5. He is very involved with the action (like Donald is with SA).

    6. He has got great character and is well respected (after all, he was knighted).

    He's my first choice but we have others from the Caribbean who are worthy of the post. No need to go overseas unless totally necessary.

  • Starvybz on August 19, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    yes yes he is gone mickey arthur is free get him because he knows alot about australian conditions for the worldcup and he is a strict coach that keeos his house in order

  • CricketChat on August 19, 2014, 18:12 GMT

    I don't mind if Gibson and WI board/team can't work together any more. But, talk about timing of this, right before an international series (granted, BD isn't exactly of international standard these days)! Overall, Gibson hadn't had a comfortable tenure with senior players. Dropping Gayle, Sarwan, Samuels, Sammy and several other seniors (I support Gibson because he went by attitude & performance criteria for selection, not by name/fame) wouldn't have sat very well with WI fan base. I always thought he would go before his contract is up.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    Why must WI go outside of the Caribbean for a new coach. This kind of thinking is puzzling.Things had to change so we chop off from the top along with the selectors hoping that they were responsible for so many failures , but WI need the players of TEST quality to win matches .

  • nafzak on August 19, 2014, 16:44 GMT

    WI vs PAK April 23, 2011 ODI - Quote from match report: "…West Indies' greatest errors stemmed from their misreading of the pitch for today's game - an unforgivable error as they should have known what to expect after the Twenty20, which was also played at Gros Islet." Pak captain was shocked that WI chose to bat 1st and laughed about it later. Gibson displayed his incompetence earlier in the WC played in the subcontinent. Having batsmen lifting weights, thus having 'heavy hands' and unable to lift their bats. Playing ODIs as though it was T/20 when par score in most matches was around 240-250. Trying to get rid of Shiv (was successful in ending his ODI career) prematurely and messing with Sars and Gayle. Sars never recovered. Thank God Almighty that Lloyd came along today and thus Gibson must leave. Gibson was not a coach who inspired confidence nor was never a players coach. Addition by subtraction? You betcha!

  • on August 20, 2014, 0:23 GMT

    He Gibson was allowed to mess with WI cricket to the point that even the great Clive LLoyd will find difficulty in putting together a reasonable team.Shiv a quality player whose stats and performances speak volumes was almost eliminated from international cricket.He managed to strike him off the ODI. Why keep him?

  • on August 19, 2014, 22:22 GMT

    looking at the quotes that are post here show the bias opinion of you all I personally believe that until the players decide that they want and are willing to put in the effort to improve West Indies cricket will continue to be the laughing stock of World cricket, we have not produce a quality batsman or bowler of the highest quality since 1995 only Chris Gayle and Ramnaresh Sarwan with more than 4000 test runs and Fidel Edwards with more than 150 wickets is not good enough to win international cricket matches so there is the problem not who the coach is.

  • on August 19, 2014, 22:21 GMT

    A foriegn coach has not worked and it will never work.The main cause is that all West Indies Test players are forced by the WICB to return to the West Indies and play in the local cricket matches arranged by the WICB to be considered for selection in Test Matches. Gradually all upcoming West Indies players have not been playing League and County Cricket in England as they had been doing since the 1930's,starting with Learie Constantine and George Headley.My suggestion is that once you discover a talented player that shows a lot of promise take the next step and get him a contract in League or County Cricket in England.When West Indies dominated Test Cricket for 15 years every cricketer had a background in League or County Cricket.Frank Worrell said it in his book" In league cricket you come up against so many different varieties of bowling you meet swerve,spin,varing pace-the lot.It gives the cricketer from the tropics invaluable experience of English weather and English wickets."

  • true_connoisseur on August 19, 2014, 21:16 GMT

    I do not know whether Otis Gibson is a good coach or not, but he seemed to bring some much needed discipline to a very undisciplined team. It seems to me he had more successes with this team than the three foreign coaches who had the benefit of a few "great" players: Lara, Ramdin, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Samuels, Gayle, and Bravo. Like all coaches Gibson has strengths and weaknesses.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    yes, WI should have a foreign coach. Since the players are very poor in performing, a senior coach from overseas may bring some success than present. He will set a side politics brings in who can be good for the country regardless of age.

  • JoshFromJamRock on August 19, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Don't know how this will turn out, but from my own observation no cricketer (new or experienced) has improved during his tenure. The "big three" of Gayle, Sars & Shiv were all victims while the performances of the young and talented have stagnated and declined.

    I believe Sir Curtly Ambrose should be made coach for 6 reasons.

    1. He's a legend of the game (brings a lot of weight)

    2. He's just got this "vibes" to him that makes you, even as a watcher, want to be in his presence.

    3. He knows the group of players already being the bowling coach so the transition will be smoother.

    4. Since his appointment as bowling coach, the bowling selections and performances have been admirable. He gets results.

    5. He is very involved with the action (like Donald is with SA).

    6. He has got great character and is well respected (after all, he was knighted).

    He's my first choice but we have others from the Caribbean who are worthy of the post. No need to go overseas unless totally necessary.

  • Starvybz on August 19, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    yes yes he is gone mickey arthur is free get him because he knows alot about australian conditions for the worldcup and he is a strict coach that keeos his house in order

  • CricketChat on August 19, 2014, 18:12 GMT

    I don't mind if Gibson and WI board/team can't work together any more. But, talk about timing of this, right before an international series (granted, BD isn't exactly of international standard these days)! Overall, Gibson hadn't had a comfortable tenure with senior players. Dropping Gayle, Sarwan, Samuels, Sammy and several other seniors (I support Gibson because he went by attitude & performance criteria for selection, not by name/fame) wouldn't have sat very well with WI fan base. I always thought he would go before his contract is up.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    Why must WI go outside of the Caribbean for a new coach. This kind of thinking is puzzling.Things had to change so we chop off from the top along with the selectors hoping that they were responsible for so many failures , but WI need the players of TEST quality to win matches .

  • nafzak on August 19, 2014, 16:44 GMT

    WI vs PAK April 23, 2011 ODI - Quote from match report: "…West Indies' greatest errors stemmed from their misreading of the pitch for today's game - an unforgivable error as they should have known what to expect after the Twenty20, which was also played at Gros Islet." Pak captain was shocked that WI chose to bat 1st and laughed about it later. Gibson displayed his incompetence earlier in the WC played in the subcontinent. Having batsmen lifting weights, thus having 'heavy hands' and unable to lift their bats. Playing ODIs as though it was T/20 when par score in most matches was around 240-250. Trying to get rid of Shiv (was successful in ending his ODI career) prematurely and messing with Sars and Gayle. Sars never recovered. Thank God Almighty that Lloyd came along today and thus Gibson must leave. Gibson was not a coach who inspired confidence nor was never a players coach. Addition by subtraction? You betcha!

  • on August 19, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Give a good coach a poor team and you will get poor results. The blame is not totally with the coach, as there is very little to work with. Lets face it we have a very poor pool of senior players. Whenever good young talent join that lot it took precious little time for them to go bad. We now have new selectors, we will see in a little while how strong they are.

  • on August 19, 2014, 16:05 GMT

    @Shazly Oowise on (August 19, 2014, 14:03 GMT):

    It's a shame that SL is dropping Marvan Atappatu from the coaching job. Just grab him! If you want another non-performing coach, take the 'freshly' sidelined Duncan.

  • on August 19, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    Looked at Williams' page, to know a bit more about him. How come he is mentioned as born on a 'Road'? A little puzzled!

  • on August 19, 2014, 15:32 GMT

    FINALLY ---- THANK GOODNESS !!!!!! I hope LLoyd has a major input in who becomes the new coach.

  • on August 19, 2014, 15:29 GMT

    About time Gibson has got the chop. Poor coached who lived of his stint as the England bowling coach who bowl well in English conditions but failed abroad. Please check the stats before your replies. Hope Roger sharper or Phil Simmonds gets the job.

  • on August 19, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    Sack him, I never belived I would live to see the day when Windies cricket would be as low as it is now, and it's all Gibson's fault. He destroyed Sarwan, ostracised Gayle and Chanderpaul, only for the Guyanese Govt. to come out all guns blazing to have Chanderpaul reinstated, it was a year later when the whole Caribbean and several leaders said enough is enough we want Gayle back that he also was back. If Gibson had any self respect he should have resigned then, but no, he he was on a nice little earner, so he wont resign, therefore Windies, Fire him; we cant do any worse, Roger Harper is doing a superb job with the Amazon Warriors, appoint him straight away and watch us soar.

  • on August 19, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    At last.....they should pick have Chanderpaul kind as a coach.....Marvan Atapattu will be a better bet..coz Sri Lanka is relieving him from duties

  • on August 19, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    What kept him on for so long I'll never know.Now that the weight is off West Indies cricket can begin to rise

  • Robster1 on August 19, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Hmmm....Gibson very successful coach over in England but struggles in WI. Wonder why?

  • on August 19, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    I thought the day will never come! WI is the only team in the world wit the minimal progress and still keep the coach!

  • MikeGraham on August 19, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Give the best coach in the world a bad team and you'll get bad results. Especially if he is not getting support from his managers. Gibson was successful as the England bowling coach at a time when England's bowlers were not well recognised. He moulded them into top bowlers. Why? He had the support of the ECB which wanted its team to do well.

  • BRUTALANALYST on August 19, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    As if Micky Arthur will make any real difference W.I cricket is not going anywhere soon.

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:39 GMT

    He should have been gone ages ago - Good Riddance.

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    he need to be layoff of wi cricket

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    I earnestly believe that he is gone.

  • ak928 on August 19, 2014, 12:07 GMT

    The day wi got hammered from nz in wi......gibson should have been removed at that time.........anyway nz has played tremendous cricket in the last 1 years........series win against wi,ind and again wi in wi.........thats great....as far as gibson us concerned......wi cricket needs reforms.... so they should try some better coches...

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    This was expected . The "new sweep" was long over due and now taking effect . Still a couple more heads to roll tho .

  • on August 19, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    some of WI players should be removed from the game instead of re-cycling them. Not only the coach.

  • westindiesupporter on August 19, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    A good decision. We can get better coaches like maybe Brian Lara or maybe Chanderpaul can be a player as well as coach. We have try new things before we lose our test status.

  • decaple on August 19, 2014, 11:42 GMT

    like this new management setting... yep Otis your time up...

  • decaby on August 19, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    new direction for WI cricket... its about time...

  • tutorial on August 19, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    Its about time!!! Keep him away from WI.cricket.

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  • tutorial on August 19, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    Its about time!!! Keep him away from WI.cricket.

  • decaby on August 19, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    new direction for WI cricket... its about time...

  • decaple on August 19, 2014, 11:42 GMT

    like this new management setting... yep Otis your time up...

  • westindiesupporter on August 19, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    A good decision. We can get better coaches like maybe Brian Lara or maybe Chanderpaul can be a player as well as coach. We have try new things before we lose our test status.

  • on August 19, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    some of WI players should be removed from the game instead of re-cycling them. Not only the coach.

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    This was expected . The "new sweep" was long over due and now taking effect . Still a couple more heads to roll tho .

  • ak928 on August 19, 2014, 12:07 GMT

    The day wi got hammered from nz in wi......gibson should have been removed at that time.........anyway nz has played tremendous cricket in the last 1 years........series win against wi,ind and again wi in wi.........thats great....as far as gibson us concerned......wi cricket needs reforms.... so they should try some better coches...

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    I earnestly believe that he is gone.

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    he need to be layoff of wi cricket

  • on August 19, 2014, 12:39 GMT

    He should have been gone ages ago - Good Riddance.