New Zealand v South Africa, World T20, Group 1

Du Plessis in doubt ahead of crucial clash

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March 23, 2014

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March 24, 2014, Chittagong

Start time 1530 (0930GMT)


Mitchell McClenaghan is elated with the wicket of Michael Lumb, England v New Zealand, World T20, Group 1, Chittagong, March 22, 2014
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March 25, 2011. The Shere Bangla National Stadium in Mirpur, 250 kilometres from Chittagong. New Zealand dumped South Africa out of the World Cup they had looked on course to win.

A day short of three years later, the teams will meet at an ICC event again. In between, they've played each other in five Tests, six ODIs and six T20s - a total of 17 matches. South Africa have lost just four of those. They've had the better of New Zealand in bilateral series but the memory of coming unstuck against them in a game that mattered more than any of the others is still fresh. Specifically, it will be stirring in Faf du Plessis' mind.

On March 25, 2011, du Plessis was one of the team's relative youngsters and a key protagonist in the choke. He ran AB de Villiers out and was involved in an on-field altercation with Kyle Mills that reeked of blood rushing to the head. On March 24, 2014 du Plessis will captain the side - whether on the field or from the sidelines, nursing a hamstring injury - in a game that they don't have to win.

The pressure is on South Africa but it need not stifle them. They do not have to beat New Zealand to keep their hopes of qualifying for the final four alive but if they don't they will make their own task much harder. Defeat will also mean they will have to rely on other results, something no team is comfortable with.

Similarly, New Zealand cannot confirm semi-final spots with victory but will be in an enviable position if they win a second game in succession. They triumphed over England in a rain-affected encounter and will look forward to the prospect of a full game to prove their summer of plunder was no fluke.

Form guide

(completed matches, most recent first)

South Africa LLLLW
New Zealand WWWLW

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With emphasis on the middle order's ability to accelerate, South Africa are expecting their top-order to lay a solid enough platform. The spotlight will be on Hashim Amla in that role because he will have to up his aggression while keeping his head, something that a lean patch of form won't help with. Amla's last three T20 scores are 4, 2 and 23 and he seems to be struggling for his usual silken touch. Amla was the only South African batsman whose strike rate against Sri Lanka was under 100 but he was part of decent opening stand of 32. South Africa will bank on him to get going and bat a touch deeper to give the likes of David Miller less to do.

Mitchell McClenaghan made his T20 debut against South Africa and impressed from the outset. He took four wickets at an average of just 19.00 in the three-match series against them in December 2012. He has since developed into one of New Zealand's danger men and they'll be looking to him to do some damage to a line-up laden with left-handers. South Africa have four in their top seven - Quinton de Kock, JP Duminy, Miller and Albie Morkel - and Amla has succumbed to left-armers more often recently, which will give McClenaghan hope he can run through them.

Team news

South Africa are still uncertain about the availability of their captain Faf du Plessis, who is recovering from a hamstring niggle. Du Plessis missed their tournament opener but trained at optional practice on Sunday and will have a fitness test on Monday morning to determine whether he can play. South Africa are being cautious not to rush him back too early.

If he is still out of action, Farhaan Behardien will bat in the middle order with JP Duminy at No.3, with South Africa adamant AB de Villiers will not be promoted up the order. With Dale Steyn fully fit, South Africa will stick to their three-pronged frontline seam attack with Imran Tahir the specialist spinner but may consider slotting in Wayne Parnell for Albie Morkel.

South Africa: 1 Hashim Amla, 2 Quinton de Kock (wk), 3 Faf du Plessis/JP Duminy 4 AB de Villiers, 5 JP Duminy/Farhaan Behardien, 6 David Miller, 7 Albie Morkel/Wayne Parnell, 9 Dale Steyn 9 Morne Morkel, 10 Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11 Imran Tahir

Two-thirds of New Zealand's squad attended their voluntary training on Sunday and they have no injury concerns. That means there's have no reason to break with a winning formula and will likely field the same XI that beat England.

New Zealand: 1 Martin Guptill, 2 Kane Williamson, 3 Brendon McCullum(capt), 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Colin Munro, 6 Corey Anderson, 7 Luke Ronchi (wk), 8 Nathan McCullum, 9 Tim Southee, 10 Kyle Mills, 11 Mitchell McClenaghan

Conditions

There was some extra bounce on offer during the first match of the tournament played in Chittagong between South Africa and Sri Lanka. The pitch used for that clash had a generous grass covering and although the matches will rotate among seven strips through the competition, similar can be expected. Batting will be tricky for incoming batsmen but should get easier with time at the crease, even though it will take turn. Morning showers are expected but the afternoon should be dry and chances of a full game are good.

Stats and Trivia

  • New Zealand and South Africa have played each other 11 times in T20 internationals with South Africa winning 8 of those matches. That includes both meetings at previous World T20s: by 1 run at Lord's in 2009 and 13 runs in Bridgetown in 2010.

  • Martin Guptill has scored 300 runs in seven innings against South Africa, at an average of 60 and a strike rate of 135. No other New Zealand batsman has scored 300 runs against an opposition team in T20Is.

Quotes

"There's always going to be that added pressure on us now, depending on how other results go we're probably going to have to win all three"

South Africa know it won't be easy following their defeat to Sri Lanka, as JP Duminy confirmed

"We've never tackled them on the cricket field. We have got a lot of respect for them, they're a very good side in all formats. We're looking forward to the challenge of playing against some of the best players in the world."

Kane Williamson explains the rivalry between New Zealand and South Africa is not as intense on the cricket field as it is on the rugby ground

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by Protears on (March 24, 2014, 9:24 GMT)

I am a South African cricket fan that is growing disillusioned at the allegiances to players not cut out for either format of cricket. Form players are picked or not played while we continue to buck what hasn't worked for us.

Dolphins - Zhondo, Abbott, Frylinck. Cobras - B Hendricks, Vallie, Van Zyl, Vilas, Piedt. Titans - De Lange, Wiese. Knights - R Hendricks, Roussouw, Harmer. Lions - Bavuma, Leie, Viljoen, Morris. Warriors - Smuts, Ingram

Even considering a player like Levi while work in progress is potentially a match winner in the T20 format.

Whatever the format we are not picking players on form, based on politics and allegiances and its not doing our talent enough good.

If i were the coach id go with;

De Kock, AB, Duminy, Du Plessis, Miller, Morkel, Parnell, Hendricks, Morkel, Tahir, Phangiso.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (March 24, 2014, 9:11 GMT)

If Miller doesn't come in at 4 and AB at 3 then we are toast. Amla as an opener n T20 is a total failure which everyone can see except Domingo. Amla should bat at 5. 1. De Kock 2. Faff 3. AB 4. Miller 5.Amla 6.JP 7.Albie Morkel - looks miles better doesn't it.

SA are notorious chokers in tournaments- Im happy to admit that. So why play right into your weakness by loading your best hitters at the back of the innings instead of the beginning to relieve this pressure.

Posted by twistatwistaa on (March 24, 2014, 9:10 GMT)

@ Mr.CricketJKNotHussey and Farhan Sadik Riadi. i think both of you dont have any understanding of the game, AND RELY PURELY ON STATISTICS. you need to watch the game more closely to understand what i am trying to say. i agree devillers is talented but he has no nerves to bat under pressure,. last icc champions trophy major event crucial game india vs africa where africa was almost gona win the game but a wicket felt and couple of dot balls after that and as usual Ab devillers got into pressure and came dancing down trying to hit a bouncer and caught in no mans land which costed africa a match cause he was well set by than playing at almost 70 and needed to guide his team down too victory and so many other such games

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (March 24, 2014, 9:09 GMT)

the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about because everyone likes the guy including myself, is that nz's premiere batsman just isn't that good a t20 cricket and no im not talking about williamson, ross taylors t20 record just isn't very good, he owns it domestically which warrents his selection and the fact he's a magnificent player but in t20's as a black cap he has never really produced the goods and maybe the way to fit the destructive hitting of neesham in is to replace taylor, sounds crazy considering he is probably one of the few players who can handle the class of styen and morkel but if he's not producing match wining innings maybe just maybe as crazy as it sounds we pick a nz side without taylor

Posted by tripple-Digits on (March 24, 2014, 9:08 GMT)

take a leave out of the game SA Women vs Pakistan Women T20 on 23 March 2014 and get a decent 1st record partnership going!!!

Posted by shortsillypoint on (March 24, 2014, 9:02 GMT)

Sameold is correct. The idea raised that Neesham should open disregards the fact that SA have a top line pace attack and someone with Kane's skill is needed at the top. He batted very well against England but even for him it will be a challenge in the first few overs.

Posted by SuperSharky on (March 24, 2014, 8:56 GMT)

South Africa has mainly fastbowler pitches. Miller and Tsotsobe are still use to the South African pitches and haven't adjusted to the subcontinent pitches yet. It looks like the minds of the Proteas-selectors, also didn't adjust to the subcontinent atmosphere. They should have had more spinners in their squad and less fastbowlers. Match 7 of the ICC 50 Over World Cup, on 24 Feb 2011 at Delhi, Proteas beat West Indies by 7 wickets with 43 balls remaining. Proteas bowled Robin Peterson, Imran Tahir & Johan Botha successfully. Match 29 of ICC 50 Over World Cup, on 12 Mar 2011 at Nagpur, Proteas beat India by 3 wickets with 2 balls remaining. Proteas bowled Peterson, Botha & Duminy successfully. Match 39 of ICC 50 Over World Cup on 19 Mar 2011, Proteas beat Bangladesh by 206 runs. Proteas bowled Johan Botha, Robin Peterson & Tahir successfully. If Proteas were serious about winning a Cup in subcontinent, Tsotsobe or Morkel should have made way for Robin Peterson or Johan Botha.

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 8:54 GMT)

SA is a very good team need to drop behardien and give the chance to parnell a very good allrounder best of luck SA. SA will win today

Posted by ilovetests on (March 24, 2014, 8:48 GMT)

@ Ozcricketwriter

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 24, 2014, 8:16 GMT) This isn't a final or anything, so why panic? Except that, with one loss already, it is virtually a final, and that might be enough for New Zealand to sneak in. New Zealand, for the most part, have been horrible lately...

???

NZ in T20s

Form guide (completed matches, most recent first) New Zealand WWWLW

NZ in ODIs New Zealand WWTWW

NZ in Tests New Zealand DWWWD

Looks pretty good to me!

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

@SameOld - You answer your own question and diffuse your own argument. "How can you play Neesham when Anderson is killing it!?" Um, because sometimes he doesn't and they are carbon copy players in many regards. Why play one trump card, when you can play two? That is the answer to your question... another question to you. Are you saying Munro as a batter alone offers more than Neesham? Logical answer = NO. Do we need three fast bowlers on a slow pitch, playing first without dew at a different ground to the quick Chittagong one from the other night (did you even know that)?. Also, your ave on about Ryder loss, but Neesham could probably score his quick 20-40s easily also, and he can bowl too. In the last match versus England we lacked options and Kane is playing as an out and out batsman, which originally he could not make the team for (they said he made this team 'cos he 'bowls' but he hasn't) when the squad was 14-strong and Neesham was starting. It is not logical that he is not playin

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 24, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

South Africa should wipe the floor with New Zealand. This isn't a final or anything, so why panic? Except that, with one loss already, it is virtually a final, and that might be enough for New Zealand to sneak in. New Zealand, for the most part, have been horrible lately, while South Africa, for the most part, have been magnificent. It shouldn't be a contest even. But, as we saw with Pakistan shocking Australia, or indeed with Netherlands shocking Ireland, let alone Hong Kong shocking Bangladesh, well, with T20 you just never know.

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 8:12 GMT)

So.... judging by logic and other comments, I am right: Neesham is a better option than either ONe of Munro or Williamson... OR ONE of the THREE fast bowlers. McClenaghan should play and is left armer... BUT Southee or Mills cannot be justifed ahead of all-rounder Neesham who could even open instead of Kane and play the Ryder role very, very well at a pinch also. But I had to comeback in and also say, have SA droped Morkel (Albie) and kept Behardien? lolz... what the heck? Awesome for us IMHO. No hitting threat.. or not as many now... which is why we must play Neesham.... it is about options and THREAT and POWER!!! IT is T20, not tiddleywinks.

Posted by Night_Fury on (March 24, 2014, 8:12 GMT)

Probably 1st time ever in a NZ, SA match i believe NZ to be favourites. This happens when a player of he calibre of Kallis retires. NZ needs to bat smartly and play out steyn. It seems SA can only win if quinton or AB fires. I dont know what has happenned to Miller. He looks different!!. I guess for both teams it would be win toss and bat first. SA can choke while chasing and NZ would want to benefit out of it. Good Luck to both teams.

Posted by stormer1980 on (March 24, 2014, 8:07 GMT)

@ kASHIEF : 100% buddy , we way to structured in our approach in our batting and even our bowling ... I think AB and De Kock should open , AB has opened before , Faf at 3 , JP , Amla to negotiate the middle overs with Miller and A Morkel ... I think Robin Peterson or Roelof Vd Merwe should've been in this squad at 8 , with Steyn and Morkel the pace and then Tahir

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 8:02 GMT)

@Samold You'll see that Danny boy has a better economy than both Ajmal and Narine. He's simply one of the best spinners (not to say the batting) in the world. He's truly phenomenal. And for Jesse, I have a look at David Warner's career after Punchgate and Rosco's career after captaincy issues and then I see what lovely NZC are doing to Ryder.

Posted by SameOld on (March 24, 2014, 7:32 GMT)

"NZ at full strength": Wrong. Unless you see the names Vettori and Ryder on the sheet, NZ is definitely not at full strength. The absence of possibly the best non-Asian T20 spinner in the world, and one of the world's most consistently explosive batsmen, weakens the side somewhat. NZ havent played at full strength, in any format, for years now.

I can see the argument for including Neesham, but he plays the same role as Anderson, and Anderson is killing it at the moment. Maybe he can come in for Munro at some stage, but I think Devcich is probably in line before him. Right now, NZ are trying to shield Devcich & Hira in case they are needed in the knockout stages. Why show opposition teams your spinners until you have to?

This should be a really good tussle tonight. NZ will look to their monstrous batting line-up, and SA will be banking on their amazing attack. Tahir seems well suited to T20, and Steyn and Morkel are... Well, they're Steyn and Morkel, aren't they? Enough said.

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 7:32 GMT)

As having south africa as my 3rd favourite team n thinking why they r not so good ! I think they must send kock n amla as opener n duminy on #3 ! It could make a big difference as duminy have more experience , given by ipl, so he can have little and affective time to get settle n rock the Game! I think they must knock out taylor n anderson asap! They can be most damages maker to sa! #justSaying!

Posted by wapuser on (March 24, 2014, 7:30 GMT)

Amla should play he gas got the best abilities! Ab should play too.

Posted by Mr.CricketJKNotHussey on (March 24, 2014, 7:26 GMT)

@twistatwistaa Are you serious? Amla and DeVillierrs are two of the best batsmen of this era. They've played high stakes matches all around the world and done well. Amla is going through a bit of a lean patch but he will bounce back. DeVilliers' shot range is phenomenal. Miller can develop into a fine finisher but he needs to be given better opportunities. DeKock is truely talented, I agree. Morkel adds a lot of fire power to the batting although his bowling leaves something to be desired.

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 7:20 GMT)

@twistatwistaa...u said that AB doesn't play well in a pressure situation...It sounds very funny...every time when he came in2 bat, it was a pressure situation 4 team SA...& he scored runs all da time...AB is world's best batsman currently...hav u any doubt in u'r mind??...anyway SA will win 2day & more imprtantly AB will win them da game...best of luck AB....

Posted by ProteaMan on (March 24, 2014, 7:15 GMT)

@ kashif_24, you,re absolutely right regarding the batting order!

Posted by Jyotishka on (March 24, 2014, 7:07 GMT)

overall it should be a cracker of a contest. However, i feel jimmy neesham should come in place of mills/southee.He is a good death bowler , he does his bit with the bat and he adds great balance to this strong NZ line up.

Posted by twistatwistaa on (March 24, 2014, 6:35 GMT)

amla and devilliers can not play under pressure simple as that , jp dumminy is a compact and a good number 3 player, people say miller is a big hitter but he cant hit any ball other than over pitch or fultos, and allrounders can never win them match with no precision in bowling albie morkel is a easy target for opponents, only way i could see africa win any match is if quinton de kock who is truely talented comes out with something special

Posted by ru4real on (March 24, 2014, 6:28 GMT)

@nikko Chunn ...you cant have Williamson at 2 but only if floating.....I agree he should be floating but down to come in at 4 with McCullum opening and Taylor at 3...just imagine if Guppy didn't get out the other night and Guppy or Williamson couldn't hit the 6s McCullum did...it would have been NZ who would have lost. McCullum needs to accept that the team needs him at 1 or 2...after all,... for the good of the team ... that's what he is about right?. I will watching Mills with interest tonight....nice to hear him saying good body language is something they must show....don't drop the shoulders etc...don't sulk....talk about coming from the horses mouth..

Posted by missionbegins2011 on (March 24, 2014, 6:27 GMT)

SA will win this one. Steyn wont have consecutive off days. SL was lucky to escape with the first match as SA almost chased down the big total (which came up because of a rare bad bowling performance by SA). Moreover NZ does not have the spin firepower (which certainly is a bottleneck as far as SA is concerned), its seamers vs seamers contest where SA looks far superior. My opinion: 70-30 odds in favor of SA

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 6:26 GMT)

New Zealand is looking a dangerous team, having power hitters from top to bottom in the line up and they have good bowling attack. South Africa team selection is not good, Amla should replace with Davis who is having more T20 experience.

A Morkel is out of touch,farhan is a worst choice to replace Faf.

New zealand will win this match.

Posted by kiwicricketnut on (March 24, 2014, 6:22 GMT)

i look at that south african team and wonder how we are going to sneak one past them but cricket is a funny game, especially t20 and if a couple of our key guys come off we can definately cause an upset and thats exactly what it would be, if we were playing a sub continent team i would say play munro, his ability to hit spinners out of the game is why he is there but south africas strength is seam and devcich is an opener and use to quick bowling so play him, his spin is proving more than handy too, huge neesham fan but it is hard to fit him in because his bowling has been a bit exposed of late but i want him in the team maybe for a bowler but definatly not mills.

Posted by SHER-A-PANJAB on (March 24, 2014, 5:56 GMT)

SA looking very weak side against all test playing nation here ,because they did select 7 regular bowlers in 15 members squad .Now Amla is not a T-20 player ,M.Morkell is out of touch ,FAF is injured ( no one can cover FAF ) What kind selection is this ? Andrew Hudson has to be questioned .....Levi , Henry , or U-19 squad player or JENNING ( Ray JENNING' son ) could be called ......RSA is exposed here ...they can not hold on cricket..any more ,good luck for good cricket /match ........,! NZ can beat them easily here ....

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 5:27 GMT)

Will be an exciting match here!..I am backing NZ.. Mark my words-Nz will win the worldT20!

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 5:23 GMT)

i don't know why people keep saying get rid of mills, he again and again proves himself to be a dam good economical bowler who has proved his worth

Posted by Jordanious77 on (March 24, 2014, 5:01 GMT)

A lot of people are saying Williamson should have a floating roll. I originally agreed but i feel astho he REALLY suits opening in T20's. He doesn't slog, but early on he doesn't need to. He's a good batsman and will always be able to find a way to score. More often than not score at above a runaball which will set a great platform.

Guptil is also opening and can be the damage right at the beggining. And as shown McCullum can come in after a wicket and be destructive at the end of the powerplay.

If McCullum fails we have Taylor coming in to stop too many wickets falling so we DONT need Williamson lower down. If we lay a foundation with the top 3-4 then we have Munro, Anderson, Neesham, Nathan, Ronchi, Devcich or even Southee and Mills (if required) to powerhit at the end..

This is Imo the perfect team set-up.

My team: 1) Devcich/Guptil, 2) Williamson, 3) McCullum, 4) Taylor, 5) Munro, 6) Anderson, 7) Ronchi, 8) Devcich/Nmac, 9) Southee/Neesham 10) Mills, 11) McCleneghan

Posted by Antony_Lucas on (March 24, 2014, 4:23 GMT)

New Zealand have a strong squad. The team selection strategy seems to be their downfall. McClengahan, Mills and Southee are all world class on their day in their own right, but only 2 out of the 3 should be picked in the XI from this point on. Neesham must come in as a batting allrounder for 1 of them (Neesham was one of the new black caps who performed well in late 2013 in BD). Also the all round Devcich shouldn't be sitting out!! Again see how he performed on the most recent BD tour, with both bat and ball, especially the ball. Munro can be dynamic but he is more of an asset in games with out high class pace bowling (see Steyn and Morkel). Munro and a bowler out. Neesham and Devcich in

Posted by wapuser on (March 24, 2014, 4:08 GMT)

Once again SA selection has been exposed . No extra batsman is for FAF to make a strength in middle order and Amla is not a twenty -20 opener ' Levi or Henry Davias supposed to be kept in . Once again SA almost out of A big event .......good luck

Posted by Albert_cambell on (March 24, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

We must replace Tsotsobe with Parnell.We need a pinch hitter at the lower order.Guys like Steyn, Tahir, Morne, Tsotsobe pure tailenders with no batting skills. If we play all 4 of them, then guys like Miller and Albie wont have any support from the lower order batsman. We could have won against SL if we had a bowler who can bat.

Posted by nothingnew on (March 24, 2014, 2:19 GMT)

Kashif_24 Amla is good at ODI and Test not for T20 . He is lack of performing for T20 over the years . I believe if SA drops amla and pick powerhitter on behalf of the him . Then we can see good cricket . if Fat comes to the party . then AB or duminy can start with De kock .

My team for today De kock , Duminy , Fat du , AB , Miller , Albie ,parnell , steyn , morne , Tsotsobe , and Tahir

Posted by Vaskur79 on (March 24, 2014, 1:59 GMT)

If faf is not play today then it will be my top 11 for todays match 1.Cock 2.amla .3 ab de villers. 4. Jp duminy 5. Farhan 6. Miller 7.albie 8.parnel. 9 styen 10.morne 11.imran. I will go with parnell coz he can bat too & pick up some early wickets.

Posted by Sathesh_Krishnan on (March 24, 2014, 1:56 GMT)

No matter what everyone says SA coach and captain are going to do the same and the result is going to be the same. Its an absolute waste of time for fans and media. SA know why they are losing and are still happy to continue doing the same thing. Have never seen a worst strategy/tactics from any of the other nations.If the same team was given to Dhoni, SA would have won lot of trophies. Their management is dismal and thinking is wierd. Its plain and simple, Amla is not a T20 player and JP is not a top order player. AB @ #3 and Miller @ #4 is what they need and is going to produce them world of good if they use that ploy. A Morkel should bat above JP Duminy. JP never can win matches on his own. There are better replacements for SA from domestic in T20 for Amla, Parnell, Behardien, Phangiso and Tsotsobe. Combination of poor selection and poor tactics will ruin SA for long long time if they dont realize. Their fans have to be content with what they achieve. Bcos they arent upto the mark.

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 1:51 GMT)

Continued... After all, look at Anderson finally getting wickets in the England match (when has been out of form) when the other three quicks looked, at times, quite hit-able. It is a tournament for clever bowling, not samey pace, and for spin. You also need a floating hitter or a late rally (look at Maxwell the other night).... If Hesson thinks our team - the Black Caps - can go in to t20 matches without Neesham, he is being naive and unfair. This would be a better line-up than the one you have named above... (note that, by dropping Munro (as opposed to one of the quicks, who, apart from McClenaghan, would also make way for Neesham if Munro did not) the team still bats to 10 but has 6/7 bowlers instead. It is the obvious team and Neesham was ahead of Munro when arrived at tournament.. nothing should have changed) = 1. Guptill 2. Devcich (or Wlliamson IF he floats in order) 3. B.Mac 4. Taylor 5. Anderson 6. Neesham 7. Ronchi (wk) 8. N.Mac 9. Southee 10. Mills 11. McClenaghan 2 EASY!

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 1:44 GMT)

No! Why that possible line-up!!? You have named the Black Caps' side without Jimmy Neesham! Why? Because we fooishly played THREE quicks the other day and Williamson and Munro (who should not BOTH be in the team - one or the other Hesson!!) due to it being the faster track and dew being a major issue and us playing second of the two matches when played England? This is a different ground and a different pitch, and one of Mills or Southee should not play and also one of Kane or Colin should drop out in my opinion too. This is a spinner's / slogger's tournamanet and Neesham has past glory in this region and in this format. He offers more in t20 (regardless of irrelevant warm-ups in which Williamson was slaughtered when bowled anyway - 24 off one over) than Munro (who only bats) and one of the three quicks - I would suggest Southee (as he is banging it in and not gettiing swing) - should miss out. I would bring in Neesham and Devich possibly since they fear bowling Kane - ironically

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 1:42 GMT)

south africa.-de kock .du plassis.dumni. de villiers. miller.behradin.parnel.sten.m morkel.tsotsobe.tahir (this team are awesome)

Posted by   on (March 24, 2014, 1:11 GMT)

I am a Neesham fan but Kyle Mills has to be included - he is consistently the most economical seamer in world T20 cricket. He gets early wickets through accuracy (eg. Hales on Saturday). Sure, he does get tired but its only 4 overs. He will not let the team down. Southee is an important player but in this format he has struggled, he has neither consistently got wickets or bowled economically- unless we plan to use him in the death overs or it is swinging hoops I wouldn't pick Southee. Tough call but I would rather have raw pace and bounce (McCleneghan), slower pace and accuracy (Mills) and bounce/golden arm death bowling variation (Anderson), and RA off spin (McCullum) and LA off-spin (Devcich).

Posted by bobbo2 on (March 23, 2014, 23:46 GMT)

NZ should win this if they turn up and play to their potentail. Not sure why SA are favourites as on form NZ should be.

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 21:43 GMT)

D'cock is n good form I hope he will do much better,but the openers should take responsibility and Amla should pressure on bowler,beharidean is a waste batsmen,the batting top order should be strong nd the t-sobe s not in the form n saarc region, I think ab will surely give a chance to phangiso nd Parnell, n middle orders should build up a good partnership num-4) miller should bat he s a key player against new Zealand. Ab have good talented and experience n t 20 format n Asia country all the best 100 percent south africa will win the game against new Zealand playn 11. 1)cock 2) Amla 3)ab 4) miller 5) albie morkel 6)jb duminy 7)Parnell 8) imran tahir 9) mornie morkel 10)Steyn 11) phangiso Sa s lacking behind sum gud hitters al though. faf du should play tmmrw match I hope today the sa will win and prove the talent nd experience team gud bye. :-)waseem pasha

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 21:29 GMT)

southafrica should Use parnell, he has got good potential to bowl yorkers consistently!

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 21:09 GMT)

tbh, i dont understand why vettori hasnt been looked at...isnt he fit again? one of the best spinners in the world, fact, isnt in the squad. neesham is a very weak bowler and will really, really struggle. mills is an experienced death bowler who we must retain. we have plenty of batting depth already.

Posted by RoyRulez on (March 23, 2014, 18:52 GMT)

In case du Plessis fails to make it, Parnell should play and he should replace Behardien and not Albie... Behardien doesn't add much value to the team anyway!!!

Also, Amla's performances in T20s hasn't been up to the mark... big question mark on his place as well!!!

And the most logical thing... AB should bat at No. 3!!!

Posted by bdsmaruf on (March 23, 2014, 18:45 GMT)

replace behardine with parnell

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 18:44 GMT)

the winning chance of south africa in this match is almost 80% go ahead..

Posted by job_eapen on (March 23, 2014, 18:22 GMT)

SA lineup should be : Faf du Plessis, Quinton de Kock, Hashim Amla, AB de Villiers, J P Duminy, David Miller, Albie Morkel, Wayne Parnell, Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel, Imran Tahir

If no du Plessis , then SA could go in with Hashim Amla in the opening slot. He, even though is having a lean patch in T20 format as opener is too good a batsman to not to perform in crunch situations !!

And if Hashim is moved up, then they could give a chance to Aaron Phangiso a chance in the lineup, due to the fact that his Slow left-arm orthodox bowling may prove a good weapon along with Tahir's leg break's. It's really worth a try in the spin friendly conditions in Bangladesh.

If not then they can put in another batsman in Farhaan Behardian. It should depend upon the pitch conditions. I would go for Phangiso in these conditions!!!

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 18:19 GMT)

As a Sri Lankan I love to see SA win so the group will be wide open abs all have a chance to reach semis. but SA should drop Amla

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 18:11 GMT)

My favourite for this match is nz

Posted by niki21121 on (March 23, 2014, 17:27 GMT)

why dont we try Neesham in place of Mills, Mills looks completely exhausted and feels that heat of bangladesh doesnt suit him. Also Devcich should give nice spin option. My ideal XI would be: 1. Guptil . 2. Devcich 3. McCullum. 4. Taylor 5. Anderson. 6. Williamson 7. Ronchi 8. Nessham 9.Nathan Mcculum 10 Southee 11 Mccleghashan. With this line up we hv bowling options with 7 bowlers. Williamson should play in floating role depending on fall of wickets. All the best kiwis

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 17:22 GMT)

why can't Parnell open the batting with decock. .. I think he hit a century opening the batting for warriors against the lions... he can strike them... he plays spin well too. . and if u want reservation to a player play phangiso not tsotsobe. .,

Posted by Greatest_Game on (March 23, 2014, 17:16 GMT)

@ Xolile. Agree with much of what you say, but NOT Levi. Behardien is a waste.

Batting order. QDK has form, but pushes feeling scoreboard pressure from Hash. A more aggressive opener might balance him. Faf successfully opens for Chennai in the IPL: they bought him back again!

Hash plays! (or it's Berhardien!) He produces better under less pressure & should be in after the power play. Stable anchor, very accurate piercing the outfield without offering catches. Oddly, Hash' ave/SR is much worse at 1 than 2! He should be in at 3. He partners well with AB, whose ave since 2011 halved from 36 to 18. Hash would stabilize AB, who really needs to calm down or he's worthless.

FACT: since 2012, Hash's SR equals or betters de Kock, AB, Duminy & Faf. ALL have SRs around 120.

Since 2012 Duminy, at 5, was BY FAR SA's best T20 batsman, ave 10 to 20 MORE than ANY OTHER PLAYER - 43.54 @ SR 118.27.

Miller, Albie, Parnell, Steyn, Morne, Tahir.

Tsotsobe can't bat or field - a liability in T20

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 16:59 GMT)

Why would you drop Albie for Parnell and keep Berhardien? Berhardien cannot hit the ball more than 25 metres in the air. Parnell should replace him. Will strengthen our bowling and batting.

Posted by theCricketPurist on (March 23, 2014, 16:40 GMT)

Parnell instead of Albie??? Terrible decision. Both should be playing. Only 2 out of Steyn, Morne & Tsotsobe should play. Would prefer Steyn & Morkel, but we all know that Tsotsobe will be selected (everyone knows why).

And really hope DuPlessis plays. Never feel assured when Behardien is in the team. He always looks like a weak link.

The RSA XI should be Amla, De Kock, Du Plessis, ABD, JP, Miller, Albie, Parnell, Steyn/Morne, Tsotsobe & Tahir.

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 16:17 GMT)

"consider slotting in Wayne Parnell for Albie Morkel"?? Did they gone mad? They are already one batsmen short with steyn coming at number 8! Parnell can be slotted at tsotsobe's position.

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 16:02 GMT)

Ab didnt play any impact innings for sa in t20's. . & hope he ll do it tomorrow. . & who knows that might be the turn around , that they are looking for.. & tsotsobe should be dropped for Parnell, he is a good bowler in odis but nt in t20's. .& jp should bowl min 3 overs. . & albie should bowl first or second over just to get a over or two in... sa r the underdogs. . nothing to fear go for it

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 15:33 GMT)

the only deficiency that the NZ poses is their lack of spin bowling however neither does SA have the same. They must try to find a couple of spin bowlers to go forward with.

Posted by srini.n on (March 23, 2014, 15:30 GMT)

Firdose, you recommend Parnell in for Albie ? How about taking Tsotsbe out ? Have never understood the reason for his presence in the SA team (ODIs or T20s). He is just about an average bowler in bouncy conditions, worthless in the sub-continent and is a serious liability as a fielder.

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 15:21 GMT)

BEHOLD, NZ is the missing name from the WT20s champion list.

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 15:17 GMT)

SA is a great talent on paper just not so much on the field (Especially in crunch matches). NZ must qualify for the semis in place of SA and England. They are the team to watch and may well take the trophy.

Posted by BellCurve on (March 23, 2014, 14:25 GMT)

I agree with Tommy. My line-up would be 1 De Kock 2 Levi 3 AB 4 Miller 5 Faf 6 Morkel 7 JP 8 Vern 9 Steyn 10 Morkel 11 Tahir. There is no place for Amla and Behardien. JP at 7 is a backstop for batting and a bowler.

Posted by GermanPlayer on (March 23, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

Can someone please tell me why Behardein doesn't get dropped? Is he a bowler, fielder or a batsman?

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (March 23, 2014, 14:00 GMT)

Kiwis will win this by a canter. SA cricket management still haven't worked out yet that your big hitters should be batting up the order. Still seeing AB, Miller and A.Morkel batting at 5,6,7 - which is too far down the order.

SA management are too conservative in approach and strategy to be successful in T20. Its not even about quotas, its purely down to poor tactics.

Posted by creebo777 on (March 23, 2014, 13:45 GMT)

Cant we bring in rilee russouw to bat with de kock?,behardien proven match winner for titans,stick with him,parnell in for lonwabo we could do with an extra batsman...new zeeland has some big hitters,good batters but we have to beat them especially cause they have 3 points on the board ..

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 13:41 GMT)

New zealand's lowest T20 score was against Pakistan , in 2010 at Christchurch where they were bowled out for 80

Posted by seyerjames on (March 23, 2014, 13:35 GMT)

Aside from the fact that there should be an extra 'o' in the name 'justtogood', I think he's got it spot on (sorry, I'm a really annoying grammar Nazi)! Albie is a big hitter, and South Africa don't have enough big hitters. Parnell is also useful with the bat and is a better bowler than Tsotsobe. Perhaps it's that whole 'equal representation' thing again, but a sports team should always be comprised of the nations BEST players! My team: 1. de Kock 2. de Villiers 3. Faf 4. Duminy 5. Amla 6. Miller 7. Albie 8. Parnell 9. Steyn 10. Morne 11. Tahir We seem to have the entire game wrong; it's not a 50 over match. In T20's, it's the initial powerplay overs where you should do the most damage. Fielding restrictions and a harder ball allow for that. SA seem determined to waste the first 15 'building a platform' and then leave their power hitters too little time to post proper scores. Learn from the other teams and put your big hitters up top. Amla can consolidate at 5 if we lose wickets!

Posted by   on (March 23, 2014, 13:21 GMT)

Very hard to say who is going to win this, New Zealand form is significantly better than South Africa at the moment but South Africa have a veteran match winners here but seem to be struggling in 20/20 games. Kane williamson had a brillian start in the England game, it looked like he was finding his way in 20/20 i hope he continues on that path.

Posted by justtogood on (March 23, 2014, 12:56 GMT)

Simples bring in parnell for tsosobe

SA will win this....what ever they do dont drop albie morkel, he can bat better than parnell and parnell bats far better than tsosobe, so should actually be an easy decision.

If FAF is fit drop Amla he scores way to slow.....again very simple

Posted by GlobalCricketLover on (March 23, 2014, 12:55 GMT)

Behardien is probably the only one who beats Dernback (Eng) in terms of most undeserving one to make in to playing XI...

Posted by CodandChips on (March 23, 2014, 12:41 GMT)

New Zealand should win this. They are the much better side in my opinion.

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