India v South Africa, World T20, semi-final

Duminy braces for India spin test

Firdose Moonda

April 2, 2014

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'We are humble in our winnings' - de Kock

The thought may not be comforting to their supporters but South Africa are getting themselves into a spin ahead of their WorldT20 semi-final against India. They had Shane Warne in the nets offering advice to Imran Tahir, as he has done at Hampshire in the past, and the batsmen are getting their dancing shoes in preparation for India's spinners.

"We know it's going to be a big challenge for us. We want to put up a big performance against their spinners," JP Duminy said. "We know that their spinners will be a key component to their team."

India will have at least a trio of frontline tweakers taking on South Africa, with Amit Mishra an obvious threat. "He has been on top form for India in this tournament and we definitely not going to take him lightly," Duminy said. "The guys have played against him and we kind of know what to expect."


Amit Mishra took two wickets and conceded just 18 runs in his four overs, India v West Indies, World T20, Group 2, Mirpur, March 23, 2014
Amit Mishra will be among the big threats for South Africa © ICC
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As a team, South Africa have only come up against Mishra twice and that was more than 10 years ago in two ODIs in 2003. But individually, many of them have faced him in the IPL and they will draw on that knowledge when they meet him again. They will also have to dig into the archives to remind themselves of how to approach batting in conditions which suit spin, which is what the Dhaka surface promises to do.

South Africa have come from Chittagong where Hashim Amla admitted, "the wickets had a bit more pace and bounce in it," and minimal turn. He has spotted a "bit of a difference," in tracks in Dhaka but even if he didn't, the evidence is clear.

Mishra has made merry there, being named Man of the Match in two of India's four games. He is third on the list of wicket-takers of all teams who did not have to qualify for the Super Ten and his nine scalps have come at an average of 8.77. Samuel Badree has taken 10 wickets in Dhaka at an average of 9. The returns of those two legspinners will have Imran Tahir drooling.

Despite playing the first four matches in Chittagong, he is still the leading wicket-taker of the teams that did not play in the qualifying stage - his 11 wickets have come at an average of 9.18.

Before South Africa bank on him, they have to blunt the opposition's aces and that seems to be on their minds more than their own advantage for now. There's good reason for that because they have, often incorrectly, been labelled a line-up that can be outspun so the focus is on preventing that.

Although South Africa have some of the best players of spin around in their squad - Amla wristiness works wonders, AB de Villiers' and Duminy's quick feet do the same - there are some concerns. Quinton de Kock and David Miller have sometimes struggled against players who turn the ball and India will see weak links in both but Amla does not think they will find one, at least not in de Kock. "He is a fearless cricketer and is working very hard to put in a big performance," Amla said.

Not only will Amla have to lead the resistance against spin but he will also have to lead by example in approach. His calmness is something every member of the South African squad will want to emulate in a crunch situation. They are at their own crossroads because this is the stage at which they have knocked out of every ICC event they have played in the last 16 years - the knockouts.

This time South Africa have advanced towards them in uncharacteristic fashion. The banged down the back door in three matches and scrapped their way to victory. Other teams would be nervous given that history. South Africa are optimistic. "We will be taking a lot of confidence from those games that we came on top of because in two of those games, we were not meant to win," Duminy said.

Against both New Zealand and Netherlands, South Africa's bowlers engineered unlikely triumphs after the opposition batsmen were on course to overhaul them. South Africa found a way and they hope to find another one against India.

"The ways to win a game out of nothing is definitely something we will take a confidence from," Duminy said. "But this is a new game It's a big game - the semi-final of a World Cup. It doesn't get bigger than this." It actually does. There is a final after that.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by   on (April 4, 2014, 12:46 GMT)

@ashok......dude.. don't be jealous india is nt the only team in the world... u guys don't respect more then deserving other country players .. Quinton dekcock scored runs in UAE suited conditions for spin... against much better spin attack then India with likes of ajmal,afridi,hafeez,etc... he is the best under 25 batsman in the world at the moment(kohli is 25) if u don't accept it, u have not forgotten his back to back hundreds against ur team & it haunts u.... & he has only 3 IPL games & it was a year ago. . he is improved player nw..& watch out for him

Posted by BABashar on (April 4, 2014, 5:43 GMT)

Although its good to be patriotic nevertheless its better to be realistic as far as cricket is concerned. I am a cricket lover - love to see cricket regardless of who playing against whom. All I need to see - whether the team winning has done it convincingly or it was just a luck. A hard fought encounter entertains me and I expect to see such an encounter today, hope it does not go one-sided. Both the teams are well placed, based on the available potentials. Its yet to be seen how they utilise their potentials in such a big event - World T20 Semi Final. Let us say - if the openers from either side click to provide a platform for the batsmen to follow will consequently register a sizeable total - then one need to watch as to how patiently yet professionally the target is chased by other side. Both the teams are having world class batsmen and bowlers - if they play to their potentials I am sure a wonderful match is on the cards. I wish both the teams GOOD LUCK.

Posted by Johnny_129 on (April 4, 2014, 4:48 GMT)

SA have been a very consistent side over the last few years. The secret to SA's success is their planning and organisation - They tend to be the most organised side along with Aus & NZ (although NZ do not have the same success as Aus & SA because they are a small nation where they do not have the same wealth of talent). When it comes to the WC, however, other teams suddenly become well organised too. Suddenly, SA lose their advantage and it becomes a battle of nerves. Furthermore, the expectation to win becomes an added burden! In this respect, SA has faltered. In saying that the situation is a bit different here - SA is not expected to win the coming encounter and this may well help them.

Posted by Udendra on (April 4, 2014, 3:43 GMT)

The tournament format is unfair. India gets to play all group stage matches in Dhaka, while SA had to play in Chittagong.

Posted by Ashokdmightyindian on (April 3, 2014, 14:18 GMT)

@Posted by on (April 3, 2014, 14:03 GMT) sure mate but you dare compare Tahir wwith SIR jadeja and Ashwin?? ha ha!!They fail 1 out 10times and you thump your chest!!How many matches have your QDK played on SC tracks. Surely almost 15-20 ipl matches .And he is still simply LOL!!can't even score on spinning tracks!!How many times Jadeja and Ashwin went to SA. lOL this was their first tour ever!!So watch out where you are!!

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

if u can say tahir is bad bowler after smashing him in sa pitch.... y can't to u claim ashwin & jadeja r not good enough to after getting smashed in sa particularly by. QDK.. & remember ab took both jadeja & ashwin to the cleaners in the match between titans & csk in a turning track without due effect bcz titans batted first. .. wat u have to say???

Posted by rajcl on (April 3, 2014, 13:54 GMT)

@ Ashokdmightyindian, why man ,why in sc , philender did not show his class vs india in sa too , why cant we wait ( sa main weapon take wkts in 1st session of inngs they failed vs indias 4 inngs )

Posted by Rohit... on (April 3, 2014, 13:53 GMT)

Every now & then U will find people like "Protears" who just want to create tension among people... SA may have upper hand against India in Bilateral series... But this is ICC tournaments... Here the pitches are more balanced than any bilateral series... Here techniques against Both Pace & Spin will come into play... & that is why INDIA has won so many ICC trophies in away series... The best team emerges from these ICC tournaments & NOT from Bilateral series where they are tailor made by the Home Side to Suit themselves... BUT this is a T20 Match... Anything is possible... So, It is not necessary that the best team will win...

Posted by rajcl on (April 3, 2014, 13:48 GMT)

@ Protears, i meant we lost nz in overseas,, but i meant ur team lost vs aussys in test & t20 in ur home , & i meant present t20 world cup did u understood

Posted by Ashokdmightyindian on (April 3, 2014, 13:22 GMT)

@Protears oh look at your frustration. Didn't you notice that your best bowler was smashed all over the park and he registered the worst bowling figure of his life. Or shall we talk about your poor Tahir who was thrashed like a club bowler in the first test. Let your Philander tour India some other time and he will find his way out of the team same as happened with the aussies. He hasn't yet played on SC tracks. Why should he?? He too knows that the young guns of India will simply thrash him out of park .Would be fun to see Indians sendoff style he gave to Rahane!!

Posted by Protears on (April 3, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

@rajcl - I don't know what you meant in the first part, when you guys came here in December we beat the number 1 ODI team at that time convincingly in no contest results.

@wonderstar1 - It is down to the culture of players, our players are groomed to be test match calibre players and it is a conveyor belt of endless talent that replaces a player in the whites. Our culture of cricket gives very little exposure to 50 over and T20 cricket that said another reason is South African cricket tends to never let our best players play the right formats. Reeza Hendricks, Themba Bavuma, Khaya Zondo, Robbie Frylick, Kyle Abbott, Marchant De Lange, Stiaan Van Zyl, Simon Harmer, Dane Piedt, Dane Vilas, Rillee Rousouw, Chris Morris all at home whatever Lonwabo Tsotsobe, Farhaaz Behardien, Aaron Phangiso and Albie Morkel are doing there is beyond me.

@gomsi20 - short game specialists, certainly not long game specialists :D

Posted by Protears on (April 3, 2014, 12:54 GMT)

I find it funny how all of a sudden India have a great bowling attack, but in the test series out here when we were massacring your lot your bowlers are not good? its a case of moving the goal posts. The other Indian defensive mechanism is they believe that anything that is not an Indian pitch is a green top when it is a normal brown pitch created to last 5 days, clearly they have not seen a greentop before. It comes down to India's inability to play on pitches with bounce. FYI all spinners will tell you that bouncing tracks are easier to bowl on, but India have manufactured their wickets to turn artificially, case in point, Arshwins almost dire test career abroad, where I don't think he has taken 10 wickets outside India. He is a spinner that needs assistance with turn because he cannot beat you with flight and bounce, Harbhajan was a much better bowler.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 12:36 GMT)

south africa didn't win any of their maches comprehensively they won the games because of opposition's mistake and not by their own brilliancebut india on the other hand won each their matches quite comprehensively and that to against the likes of pak wi aus and home team bd Also they didn't yet faced quality spin bowling and their bowlers didn't yet bowled to those who play spin well so sa are going to face real test tomorrow

Posted by gomsi20 on (April 3, 2014, 12:35 GMT)

@Protears: What did u say? India are just bad anywhere that is not subcontinent? Read the below facts:

INDIA won World Cup 1983 (England) INDIA won T20 World Cup 2007 (South Africa) your own country INDIA won Champions Trophy (England)

Now m sure above countries are not sub continents.

How many ICC Trophies does SA have in your so called "not subcontinent".

Posted by rajcl on (April 3, 2014, 12:32 GMT)

@ Protears , at least we lost to nz in out side , what about your last tour in your home too , that too sa best 2 formats just funny , so talk about present series where ind won all matches comfortably , where sa got hard wins, the world knows who got upper hand , but who knows this is t20 any thing can happen , but definetly ind got 70% of chance, the best team on that day win best luck for sa ,,,,from INDIAN

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 12:26 GMT)

Tomorrow, when Ind humiliates SA for the n'th time in Big tournaments all these saffers will eat their own pie!

Posted by sonsia on (April 3, 2014, 12:17 GMT)

i am completely agree with Protears..!! Hey but why your big tounge along with such a superior knowledge of cricket not speaking about the Protears history of ICC tournaments....?? Ohhkeyss...i can understand the pain my dear....wait for some more years...RELAX

Posted by wonderstar1 on (April 3, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

@Protears oh dear.. This is World T20 and we are only talking about world cups. Why are you dragging test matches here when there is a world T20 going on? The question how many world cups have SA won?? I would any day consider an marquee event like world cup win over meaningless tri-series or ODis win that you talk about. This is a fact and you cant deny it. . you are the best test team but you choke when it matters in global events. so you will be remembered for both.FYI India have knocked you guys out more times when it mattered the most in World cups. CT 2002, World T20 in 07 in your own backyard, and CT 2000. Tell me how many times have you knocked India out or any team for that matter?

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 12:11 GMT)

@Protears India has been the most successful side in the recent years in all ICC tournaments. India won the T20 world cup in your country and the Champions trophy in England. I guess South Africa haven't won anything. So before you start commenting better feel scared for the match tomorrow. History will repeat itself. Saying that should be enough.

Posted by Thuthu22 on (April 3, 2014, 12:10 GMT)

Imran Tahir has taken 11 wickets on a pitch which turned less then the one they will be playing on for the semis so i expect him to play a pivotel role in tomorrows match and i hope Morkel plays because he is still a good bowler even on slow pitches

Posted by cric4ind on (April 3, 2014, 12:09 GMT)

Peace everyone, may the best team win. As an Indian supporter i respect the SA team and i would rate their chances tomorrow as 60% to win. Eitherways will be rooting for India as always.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (April 3, 2014, 12:02 GMT)

@ITJOBSUCKS....dear you failed to mention T20 WC matches, India already defeated SA 3 times....i wont forget the match in 2007 T20 WC, where India came up with superb bowling display (i have not seen that kind of bowling attack from India against strong team)...so when it comes to knock out matches in big events, India ALWAYS plays well than SA....we have lost only one match in semis till now in ICC events..moreover this match will be played on turning tracks, it also reduces the chances of SA....SA is the most luckiest team to reach semis (lost to SL by 5 runs, won against ND by 6 runs, won against Eng by 3 runs)...the most unluckiest team to go out of semis is Eng (rain cost the match against NZ, won by 6 wickets against SL, lost to SA by 3 runs, lost to ND by 45 runs)...they are the only side to cross 190 runs twice in the tournament and they lost the interest in their last match, so defeated by ND

Posted by Andre117 on (April 3, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

I can say a lot, like, we (SA) are peaking late and saving our best for last (good news), and India are overconfident after barely a hickup getting to the semis, but on Friday all that was said before will mean little. India will be the big favourites as they're playing on a ground which will suit them much better than us, but in T20 all it takes is for 2 batsmen to dominate for a long enough period or 3 quick wickets and the game can swing on it's head. All I hope for is that it won't be a walkover 80-run victory or winning by 7 wickets with 2 overs to spare. Go Proteas!

Posted by Protears on (April 3, 2014, 11:37 GMT)

@Anand Kadam - India are just bad anywhere that is not subcontinent, at least we have won tours in all the subcontinental countries. Don't even try to explain it, your lot got rolled over by NZ a few weeks ago.

@Veerdhaval Patil - Was that the NZ side that recently embarrassed your "big team". its funny how beginning of last year when we destroyed NZ everyone was NZ are easy and should be hammered, the Irony that India go and get a hidding by said team. Can't say im surprised really.

@sachin_equal_to_bradman - You're wrong to think I even care, do you know why? only have to look at India's 2 year record to see that these little successes paper over the fact that the Indian team has achieved little in the game. India's historical test winning average is like 27% when your muppets go and get a hiding by NZ it doesn't help but bring a tear of laughter to the eyes of many. PS: Sachin will never be Bradman

Posted by India_boy on (April 3, 2014, 11:34 GMT)

@Greatest_game...sir, calling someone foolish doesn't make you smart, specially when you completely miss other's point.Then, you are the one who looks foolish. Why I mentioned Tahir was because SA bowling line up is not known for Imran Tahir...it is known for the likes of Steyn, Philander and Morkel. Heck even Peterson and PJD are better spinners. But an obscure bowler who can't even turn a door knob comes and takes more wickets...what du have to say about that. As far as mishra is concerned, this guy has come out of complete oblivion and taken 9 wkts at an ER and avrg b8r than your best spinner. Not to mention Tahir played against the likes of Eng, NZ and Ned whereas Mishra played Aus, WI, Pak and home team BD. so, there you go!

Posted by vkumar_086 on (April 3, 2014, 11:21 GMT)

@Aravind Sai Kuchibhotla....again you are pasting the same comments...almost all your analysis/arguments are unrealistic....so nobody bothered about your comments (except me), India is performing well dear, you should appreciate it, with very negative mind, it seems you are trying to fill all these to enthusiastic fans, if India is not performing well, then i will also join you...have you watched the matches of India in this tournament?

Posted by sachin_equal_to_bradman on (April 3, 2014, 11:08 GMT)

@Protears: You are commenting about a team which has won totally 3(2-50 overs and 1 T-20) world cups. You have not even won once!!!! How on earth can SA fans comment here about indian team!!! Baffling!!!can you answer?

Posted by Sameeratennakoon on (April 3, 2014, 11:07 GMT)

All the best India.. From SL fan..

Posted by cricketlover80 on (April 3, 2014, 11:07 GMT)

@Greatest_Game SA made it to semis by beating England, NZ and NDL who are mostly pace attack and don't have quality spin. They did come close to winning with Srilanka as it was a better batting pitch. Srilanka again lost to England only because of better batting conditons when England batted. Had SA been in Group A with India and WI, they would have never qualified. SA have Imran Tahir but they need atleast 1 more spinner like him given the conditions or a better batting pitch on the day to make it to finals. If SA can beat Ind, they will win the world cup which seems highly unlikely.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (April 3, 2014, 11:04 GMT)

@Greatest_Game...dont compare the spin bowlers performance in bouncy pitches of SA...it is very funny, its like comparing the batting of Sachin with the batting of donald....and comparing bowling of Donald with the bowling of Rohit sharma....

Posted by ITJOBSUCKS on (April 3, 2014, 10:51 GMT)

@Greatest_Game You said that Ind & SA have been neck & neck when it comes ICC events in 50 over game...you are absolutely wrong b'coz Ind has beaten SA in Semi-final of chmapions trophy twice(once in kenya in 2001 & another in SL in 2002/03)!!! I clearly remember the 2nd one b'coz kallis scored painstaking 98 & got out in the last over after playing so many dot balls.....At one stage SA were cruising when Gibbs was batting...Once the pitch started to take turn, "SA batsmen" crumbled to spinners!!!! So, Ind has upper hand when it comes to "BIG" matches!!!

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

@Protears - You struggled against New Zealand, and somehow managed to a side who started to play cricket few years ago. What happened to ABDv, Amla, Tahir, Steyn against these teams? You better consider yourself lucky to be in the Semis and be ready to packup after the semis.

Posted by goonshow on (April 3, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

but... - unlike EVERY previous ICC tournament, where SA have steamrollered all-comers through the pool stages and emerged as hot- or near- favourites, this time is very very different... fighting off defeat repeatedly and showing nerves of steel when it's mattered - every time and not just the once!

So - I for one cannot wait for this one... Have a strange feeling that this may finally be the tournament where SA does this business (although they still have to knock over SL in the final - yes, they will comfortably beat WI).

Posted by goonshow on (April 3, 2014, 10:45 GMT)

Best comment on here is from Deepak - a true cricket fan rather than a one-eyed patriot. What is clear is that this is a wonderfully balanced contest... - SA with the arguable upper-hand after the SA series but now faced with very spin-friendly surfaces and form Indian tweakers, but... - Tahir, counters that by being the one of the top wicket-takers in the tournament thus far, AND on the Gong's straighter track, but... - he's often been picked by some Indian batsmen and, as we've know with this format, it only needs one or two (Kohli the obvious bet) to read him correctly in a one-off 20 over slog-fest in order to take the game away, but... - AB has been the batsmen of the series thus far and can do to India's spin just what Kohli may do to Tahir, and more, but... - SA have the much-documented history of bottling it when one or two big performances are necessary whereas Dhoni tends to remain ice-calm and often wrenches his team back into contention after early collapses, but...

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 10:45 GMT)

@protears indian fan talk coz in subcontinent you are as bad as india in SA or england. but this game is in sub continent. yes batting avg is good by SA but how many game they won. india is doing great. SA as well but I believe the game result ll tell u the fact. how many major tournament SA won..cant remember one u forgot how india trashed SA in champion trophy. come on wake up n be realistic if this game in SA we wont brag abt it

Posted by The-love on (April 3, 2014, 10:43 GMT)

@Nalaka_Kularatne -> Make it +1 from me.All the best to SL.Will be supporting them for today's match.I hope India reaches final even if they don't,SL will be the only team getting support from whole Asia.Come on Asians,Its the time to unite and show them what we have got.

Posted by Raghu_71 on (April 3, 2014, 10:42 GMT)

Please get proper perspective on the Indian cricket status. If one Amit Mishra is wrecking through the opponents in T20 world cup, just give a thought about the quality of the batsmen (in sub-continent conditions) he is bowling to. The same Mishra is barely a threat even at the domestic level (same sub-continent conditions). If at all India braces on his success and goes on to win the T20 world cup, don't you all think that they are once again misleading the entire nation in believing that they are really world class players.

Posted by Naresh28 on (April 3, 2014, 10:40 GMT)

The BEST team on the day will win. For any team to win they have to play their best. India need to pick their best 11 - a toss up between Dhawan and Rahane for opener role? The one worry for India is that their batting scores have not been high like other teams and have won surprisingly from their bowlers. Thus the batsman need to step up and contribute. Dhawan sitting out the last game might make him eager to make amends.

Posted by Big_CricInfo_fan on (April 3, 2014, 10:38 GMT)

@Chris Emmanuel Dsouza: Your optimism is admirable. But anyone who has not followed the recent T20 matches should know that the Chittagong pitch did not spin as much as the Mirpur pitch. So it's an entirely different ball game in the semis and finals. Secondly, Dhoni has never lost a cup once the team is in knockouts. So discount India at your own risk.

Posted by Nalaka_Kularatne on (April 3, 2014, 10:33 GMT)

From Sri Lanka. All the best, India who should win this game against SA. Final should be between India and Sri Lanka. It does not matter who wins the cup as long as Asia holds it.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 10:21 GMT)

SA main batsmen would be duplesi, AB nd in bowling steyn, we shuld attack thr batsmen our batsmen would play carefully..

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 10:03 GMT)

@ Johnny_129 writes "if memory serves me correct, we all expected the Indian batsmen to be rolled in SA by Steyn & co but the young Indian batsman coped exceptionally well!"

Exceptionally well? Really? In Tests, 3 "young Indian batsmen" had good averages: Pujara 70, Rahane 69.66, Kohli 68. The rest were bad: Vijay 37, Dhawan 19. Nohit 11.25. Jadega 4.

6 Saffas averaged over 60. 1 averaged 50.

In ODIs the "young Indian batsmen" WERE rolled by Steyn & Co, with pathetic averages: Jadega 27.5, Raina 25, Nohit 18.5, Kohli 15, Rahane 8, Dhawan 6.

The only TRUE young batsman, at 21, was de Kock, who AVERAGED 114!

The "worst bowler in the world " Imran Tahir, averaged 58: 2/116 in 2 inngs. The great R. Ashwin, in 2 inngs, conceded 108 & TOOK ZERO wickets. Sharma's ave, 62.6 was worse than Tahir's. Shami 43.83, & Khan 45.71 were not far behind.

FACT: only 3 of Ind's "young batsmen" did well in tests. The rest were bad. ALL were terrible in ODIs. Imran Tahir completely out-bowled Ashwin

Posted by rock.rockyin on (April 3, 2014, 10:01 GMT)

this is the first time I am predicting a result BEFORE the match. Generally half way into the game I predict the results very good.. so let me try my luck.. if India wins the toss and bats first I am confident India will post a good total and SA bowling in Subcontinent conditions is no match . hence India wins .. If India bats second and if SA posts a Total anything above 155 . it will become very challenging.. its 50-50 then.. Anything upto 150 runs to chase, I am backing Inida.. Thahir will have very less impact against Indian .. Good Luck India..

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (April 3, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

@ Nadun Gunawardana Great observation, also help me how many finals has SL won against IND. Must be uncountable coz u are very confident. And u have already assumed than SL will win against WI who actually thrashed SL in Sl last time.

Posted by Maz_The_Indian on (April 3, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

@ Die_Hard_Indian_Cricket_Lover - Do you mean to say all matches that India won was pure Luck. Get your facts right my friend, Pak is one of the most unpredictable team and WI we all know how capable they are. Its easy to say it was not their day but you cant take away the gigantic effort that Indian bowlers have done in this series. Your realistic expectations are fine and Steyn is definitely the BIG threat but dont forget Indian spinners are on top and SA batsmen would have tough time handling them. Currently India and WI look the two teams who can claim the title.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

All I care about is that we have a nail-bitting match and may the better team win. I'm Indian but I'm also a fan of SA. Just put a good show for the audience. Good Luck India and SA. ?

Posted by ITJOBSUCKS on (April 3, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

SA has got the best fast bowler in the form of Steyn, the best batsmen across all formats via ABD(Indians might disagree) & Tahir isn't doing badly in this tournament !!!! SA has been losing knock out games since 92'WC, but there is a first time for everything in life....SA under 19 just won the WC few months ago...you never know!!! KEY POINTS TO SUCCEED FOR SA -- 1) Need to get rid off Kohli esp if India are chasing b'coz there is no one better than kohli @ the moment when it comes to chasing & if Ind bat first, kohli rarely fires 2) Make sure that Amla & ABD plays most of the 12 or more overs bowled by Indian spinners 3) Steyn has to have an effect on the Indian top order by picking up few wickets!!! BTW, most of Kohli's best innings have come while batting second!!!

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

Die-Hard-Indian-Cricket-Lover. "AB is yet to fire in this tournament"??? He scored 69 off 28 balls against England. What's "firing"? I know it was only Jade Dernbach, but ...

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

all the very best to team india ...de villars will be the key ....for India how they will play against styen will be key for team India ....all the best team India

Posted by Protears on (April 3, 2014, 9:36 GMT)

Its funny how the Indian fans pass comment about our bowlers or batsmen and their ability to play spin in/or out of subcontinent. ABDV averages something like 100 in tests and ODI's in India with like 7 test hundreds and 6 ODI Hundreds in India's own conditions, Hashim Amla's last tour of India made 550 runs in two tests was dismissed once in general also averages like 90 against India in India. Jacques Kallis I will exclude as he is not involved but he has a stellar career against India over a 18 year career. And lastly who can forget Quinton De Kock's 3 successive hundreds vs India in monumental beatings of the world number 1 ODI team at the time.

Then we go on to India being amazing with spinners and knocking Tahir. Ravichandaran Ashwin has something like 2% of his wickets out of India was rubbish in South Africa and NZ, Amit Mishra bowled 192 overs to get his first wicket in our tour of india in 2011 took 3 for the series.

India are a fallacy to their own supporters.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (April 3, 2014, 9:01 GMT)

@jigsboy Law of averages have never been in favor of SA in any ICC tournaments so far. They were always a strong team in all ICC tournaments. But Yes i too wouldn't mind if Steyn bowls to the likes of Gayle in the final match than yet another Ind vs SL final . May be SA's best chance to get rid of the choking habit.

Posted by gorafa on (April 3, 2014, 8:37 GMT)

well i think law of avg.shud work for s.africa this time...they hav lost every knockout match in WC mts...i m indian but i really hope s.africa wins the cup this time....

Posted by Die_Hard_Indian_Cricket_Lover on (April 3, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

I believe South Africa have better T20 players than India. Don't forget de Villiers is yet to fire in this tournament. It will be very difficult for even Dhoni to hit sixes agains Steyn. If we do not lose from more than 20 run margin I am happy as an achievement to India. I am very realistic.

All matches we won so far with weak teams like Pakistan and Australia. For some luck it wasn't WI day when they play with us. Now its time to face a real T20 cricket team. Lets see how India face this challenge. I am 90% sure this will be the last match for India in this tournament.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 8:33 GMT)

@ India_boy is stubbornly defending an indefensible position. He now writes " this is because for other teams, wkts are evenly distributed among other bowlers, whereas Tahir has bagged the most for SA and then next is daylight. Really a worrying point for SA."

Tahior has taken 11 wickets. Steyn has taken 9 wickets. If you think that is daylight, you are living in darkness. Mishra has also taken 9 wickets. By your analysis, there is daylight between Tahir and all the Indian bowlers.

Face it, you keep making statements without bothering to check the facts, and the facts are making you look a little foolish, because they clearly refute your statements. You are in a lose lose position. Give it up.

Posted by Johnny_129 on (April 3, 2014, 8:25 GMT)

@ zaam_mohamed on (April 3, 2014, 5:35 GMT) - Opposition fans point out India's 'weak batting' based on India's poor results in NZ and SA. However, if memory serves me correct, India's failures resulted from poor/ inconsistent performance of their pace bowlers. I remember we all expected the Indian batsmen to be rolled in SA by Steyn & co but the young Indian batsman coped exceptionally well! Even in NZ while chasing massive totals the young Indian batsmen made a good fist. To set the record straight, pace bowling has always been India's achilles heel not its batting. India's batting is solid - How many other young batsmen can do as well in alien conditions on their first tour?? Dhawan, Pujara, Rehane & Kholi form a very solid backbone in Tests - Perhaps one day they would be compared to the 'fab four'. In the shorter formats Dhoni, Raina, Yuvraj & Rohit can be lethal too!

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 8:14 GMT)

@ sachin_vvsfan. Yes - in ICC competitions on the SC, SA & India have been neck & neck - no team has a historical advantage, & the games all went down to the wire. Given that, & the unpredictable nature of T20s, there is no defined & historically proven advantage for either team. Anything can happen, though I do think India are the more settled team. That said, SA - in all formats - have become amazingly difficult to beat. They seem to find a way to survive, often defying the odds, whether defending 7 runs in a T20 or batting out 6 sessions to draw a test.

I think of this match as the well oiled machine against the stubborn, obstinate, survivors, who happen to have the best all round batsman and bowler ready to wreak havoc and transform the game - or not. The only thing we know is the game has every chance of being the bet matchupof the tournament.

Posted by jigsboy on (April 3, 2014, 7:57 GMT)

Compared to the past runs where they have been very solid in the league matches only to be knocked out in the Semis, may be this is SA's turn to win. Law of averages are so in favor of SA and against India given that India has had a terrific last few years winning quite a few world events. Being an Indian, would do not feel all that bad if SA wins and wins the Finals too. It is about time SA fans to rejoice and cherish a world cup win.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 7:44 GMT)

@Screamingeagle

Definitely SA is not a well oiled machine at this moment but they are far better team than this present Indian team considering many weak links in present Indian team. At the moment only few players are contributing to the victory of India esp. in this worldcup.

In terms of facing spin, AB, AMLA, DUMINY and FAF are good players of spin. One more thing, India can't face steyn with confidence. they will always be in a cautious mode. If they start playing steyn with confidence, he is no more threat in these conditions. I have not seen any other nation playing steyn as cautious as India. Indians might face problems when setting a target as well as they need to set a atarget in excess of 160. They is good chance of stumbling as happenend against Australian which at present are in very weak form. Had Yuvraj rescued that day, India would have lost the game miserably.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 7:43 GMT)

only 2 proteas batsman can make difference in result..ie abd,faf...othrwise india will take lead over s.a...

Posted by VirajCJ on (April 3, 2014, 7:40 GMT)

This is a really good chance for SA to win a big tournament. I think SA will fight hard...so hard

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 7:29 GMT)

dhawan vs steyn and tahiř. immy tahir will bowl dhawwn. djawwn

Posted by Haleos on (April 3, 2014, 7:21 GMT)

Playing in IPL and on International stage are two different things. Hope for a great match.

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (April 3, 2014, 7:16 GMT)

No team is favourite in a T20 game..it is fast paced format where an outcome can be decided by 2 or 3 overs. So I refrain myself in predicting the outcome of this match. yes the form of each team needs to be taken into picture while deciding the outcome BUT it is only before the teams enter the ground. Once the match begins only things which counts is BALL and BAT. an unplayable delivery can take most important batsman and a poor ball from a champ bowler can be taken to the ropes. if you check the form of each teams; SA has had hiccups en-route to SF, they narrowly won the match against Netherlands and due to Steyn Vs NL...AB is a real threat in this format: on the other hand India has won all the 4 games and looking confident but on the flip side they were not pushed to the corner in any of the match and this might be crucial for important phase of the tournament. Kohli is the key of India. Looking for a tight clash between these two cricket loving nations.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 7:05 GMT)

Everything is state of mind. whoever will play better cricket comparatively will win the match.

Posted by India_boy on (April 3, 2014, 7:04 GMT)

@smahuta...this is because for other teams, wkts are evenly distributed among other bowlers, whereas Tahir has bagged the most for SA and then next is daylight. Really a worrying point for SA

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (April 3, 2014, 6:53 GMT)

@Greatest_Game "India have never beaten SA in an ODI World Cup Match, & India lost at home to SA in Nagpur, 2011" You did mention that India won by 1 run in that T20 in SL but you did not mention how close this ODI was. It went down the wire thanks to our batsmen who tried to please the crowd and played rash shots in the death overs and Duminy won the match deservingly.

However I agree that this is T20 no body rules here and a couple of bad overs will change the fate of the game. A lot will depend on the toss as well.

Posted by Madel on (April 3, 2014, 6:48 GMT)

India in this tournament have won matches - that is true -but there team -who has a lot of potential -does not look like possible winners -unless Doni pulls another Captain fantastic - Sri lanka looks like a very good team -and South Africa has big match winners in their team with even their spinner doing well -But of cause don't forget about Chris g and co - this world cup is wide open -it is all about who is going to take it on the day

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 6:42 GMT)

SF never win in semi final in world cup tournament that will be a matter of concern for s africans otherwise they good but team india has a good combination of bowler and batsmen

Posted by SathiHussey on (April 3, 2014, 6:37 GMT)

Morne Morkel will be a key for RSA against India in today's game.

Posted by Smahuta on (April 3, 2014, 6:15 GMT)

@India boy, by your own logic then you should be worried too, because Tahir is the leading wicket taker in the whole tournament, not just for Sa. Sa are not scare of India, its a t20 game, and we all know, that anyone can win or lose one of these at any time. Its gonna depend on who is better on the day, not who is better on paper.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 6:14 GMT)

@ cricketlover80 proclaims "We are playing in spinning tracks and the asian teams rule here." Hmm, then how come the semis are not dominated by Asian teams? WI are not an Asian team, are they? Yet they made it through by crushing Pakistan! Sri Lanks lost to England, who were in turn beaten by the Netherlands.

The last World T20 was played in Asia - in Sri Lanka. Dis an Asian team win? Noooo, the Asian team lost in the final. Not much "Asian team ruling" going on then, was there? Nope, not at all!

Friend, you just THINK Asian teams rule. In reality, this is T20. It's unpredictable, no-one rules, and on any day just about any team can pull of a heist. It is simply naive to believe any result is guaranteed.

In World T20 finals, India beat Pak in SA, Pak beat SL in Eng, Eng beat Aus in WI, WI beat SL in SL. No team has won at home. Every team has won in "foreign conditions.

History shows us that Asian teams have only won the World T20 OUT of Asia! Nobody has ruled at home!

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 5:48 GMT)

Take note: India havn't faced Tahir on SC spin friendly wickets. Don't underestimate him - he can be bad, & he can be very good!

India have never beaten SA in an ODI World Cup Match, & India lost at home to SA in Nagpur, 2011. However, in the World T20 matches, India have the advantage, winning 3 to SA's 1. Overall, in T20s India lead SA 5 to 2.

However, only once have they played a T20 on the sub-continent. On October 2nd, 2012, in Colombo, India won by just 1 run!

SA,written off before the tournament, started badly, kept improving, & kept winning close matches - the opposite of their more usual pattern, coming in highly rated or favorites, steaming through the group stages & then stumbling in the knockouts.

This team is different, & unpredictable. As a Saffa I think India are favoured based on consistency & form, but AB, Amla, Duminy, Steyn & even Tahir all have the ability to take matches away. If they all fire together, that's is a lot of firepower for India to deal with!

Posted by India_boy on (April 3, 2014, 5:47 GMT)

SA...when the worst bowler in the world is your highest wicket taker, it is time to be worried.

Posted by zaam_mohamed on (April 3, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

Singh1699, you are talking about NZ tour, that was the strongest batting too

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

Its Raina , kohli , dHONI ... vs south african batsman for sure.... big match we all know how south africans play

Posted by sergio11 on (April 3, 2014, 5:23 GMT)

The key will be Ashwin and Raina...as there are 4 left handers in the top seven..Dhoni must use Mishra cleverly..the interesting battle will be between Rohit and Steyn..lol..i am very sure Rohit will go after steyn...and i think Morne will play this game..to get that extra bounce against Raina and Yuvraj...for ind Mohit sharma must play..Shami is not that good against left handers and we can consider AB as a left hander too..lol...and may be Binny for Jaddu...anyways raina will bolw 4 overs..so dont think jaddu will get chance to ball 4 overs..jaddu is not using the conditions properly..with his pace he wont get turn..and left armer against left handers will be a bad choice..so my team 1.Rahane 2.Rohit 3.Virat 4.Yuvi 5.Raina 6.Dhoni 7.Binny 8.Amit 9.Ashwin 10.Bhuvi 11.Mohit

Posted by wapuser on (April 3, 2014, 5:18 GMT)

I really cant understand why SA supporters are so frightened. If we bet on india it is just because they hav been the best team in this tournament. While playing their each n every match there wasnt a point when it felt like they wud loose.. whereas SA won 2 close matches just bcuz the other team cud not finish the match.. be it balling of steyn or tahir. When u r batsman of taylors calibre u r expextd to make 7 of 6 9 out of 10 times.. but nathan made it diff for him where hollands batters messed up a gud chase. Wen u talk of any team in world cricket.. india has best batters for spinners anytime.... even shane warne admitz it..... so trust me tahir is no of no effect here.... i think yuvraj wud love to play him.... india has to have a bad day to loose dis one....

Posted by dganger on (April 3, 2014, 5:16 GMT)

I have no doubt India will be hoping to chase again a mediocre target around 130-140 max. But thats hope....we dont know who will do what. But one thing for sure if India batting 2nd have to chase 160 + thr will be nerves with Indian's for sure. They simply have not been challenged, a curious case of a overwhelmingly dominant side, where the flip side is they are yet to soak in pressure. Such has been their performance, I dont remember when was the last time a team look so dominant in a ICC multiteam tournament. Now if India bats first they have to put up a good total and needed to be very positive. I do beleive there is a scope of a pinch hitting experiment at the top, spcly at the opening, India can try Ashwin to do the job. This will give them a good momentum. Otherwise inspite of having clean hiitters in the team Indian team is little slow in scoring. Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni all takes time to settle down. So if they get a momentum early in d innings ths might help

Posted by Ramanathan-sriram on (April 3, 2014, 5:10 GMT)

SA vs IND will be the biggest match. it will be the big test for SA in spinning conditions. SA have more left hand batsmen in team from top to bottom. deKock,duminy,miller,albie. so ashwin will be the biggest threat for them and raina will also come into play with his deliveries which one skid through and stays low. it will be the good match. Faf or AB has to play through the innings to put decent score. Because india have big match batsmen who has the capability to finish the innings. Hope india will win

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 5:02 GMT)

@ Madan Shivakumar " won't buy the argument that duminy (is a) good player of spin ; there s enough evidence to the contrary... duminy on prev tours to Ind."

Duminy's struggles against spin in India were in 2010! Four years ago. Since then he worked very hard on that aspect of his game, & has improved dramatically in comparison. He has done well in the IPL. Players do grow & develop. What was true in 2010 is not always true today.

What is true, as you point out, is that Amla & AB are really good spin players. On the same 09 tour when Duminy failed so badly, Amla averaged 490 in the tests. Three innings, three centuries - one a double - and dismissed just once. In the ODIs AB averaged 241 @ SR 131.7, with 2 centuries in 3 innings.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the majority of the Proteas batsmen!

Posted by cricketlover80 on (April 3, 2014, 4:57 GMT)

We are playing in spinning tracks and the asian teams rule here. India, Srilanka and West Indies have edge over SA coz they have better spinners. If the pitch is modified to assist batting for semifinal and final, SA may have a chance.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 4:50 GMT)

dying to see rohit sharma against dale steyn , remember the comment in the test match " u come to india i'll see u there " ... it'll be awesome challenge

Posted by SHER-A-PANJAB on (April 3, 2014, 4:47 GMT)

India is strong and the strongest batting order in the world of cricket .Its top seven batsmen can win a particular match by single handedly .....Indian spin attack can be tackle easily by any test playing nation .So SA need to work hard and very hard to stop them from scoring good total .....Good luck .....SA

Posted by Greatest_Game on (April 3, 2014, 4:38 GMT)

@ Prasenjit Chakraborty. Did you read this article? If so, on what basis do you claim that "South Africa is a good side, but … they lack quality spinners."

Direct quote from the above article: Imran Tahir "Despite playing the first four matches in Chittagong, is still the leading wicket-taker of the teams that did not play in the qualifying stage…"

SA have a spinner who, on the least spin friendly surface, took the most wickets in the group matches. But you say that SA "lack quality spinners."

It is the same old baseless story endlessly repeated by some SC commenters, like Cpt.Meanster on March 16, 2014. "SA have NO CHANCE. This is ASIA and SA will struggle big time. They don't know how to play spin nor do they have good spinners."

And on March 12, Thozar wrote "RSA … (has) no spinner of any worth and no batsman who could play spin either."

Endlessly repeating the same untruths will not change reality - ever! Numerous posters here need to come to terms with that simple fact.

Posted by mzm149 on (April 3, 2014, 4:37 GMT)

India's bowling has always been their weak link. It has clicked so far in this tournament which is the only reason why they have been successful. Similarly Pakistan's weak batting clicked in a few games but they choked when it mattered the most. I doubt that India's bowling will betray them soon. After all law of averages is something. I hope this is the game where they will fail.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 4:36 GMT)

Anyways both India and SA are awesome.This will be an exciting game thats what matters most.Best of luck to both teams.As SA is my faborite team but ofcourse after my own team India. :)

Posted by vipinchirackal on (April 3, 2014, 4:34 GMT)

wow two best batsmen in the world are competing each other i this match.de villiers and kohli.no doubt they are the best batsmen in the world at all the formats.lets see who will cherish the match

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 4:34 GMT)

I think South Africa Should play to their strength. It'd be great if #jpduminy could have a look at how Newzealanders have played against one of the greats of Subcontinent, Srilanka. New zealand have played to their Strength, ie their pace attack and had restricted SL to a well chasable total. But their 'ever inconsistent' batting line-up fumbled, which costed them the match. But i would think SA can easily surpass that hurdle. They should focus on their pace than worrying about the indian spin attack. As everybody says fortune changes in just an over in this format. SA has enough firepower in their batting line-up to play big shots against indian spinners.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

Some people just need to be rude.You can see the frustration pouring in their comments. :D Firstly before each of the four match they predicted India will be thrashed but turns out India is the only team unbeaten in the tournament so far and won the games as comprehensively as possible.So what do haters do now.Lets make new excuses luck,pitch and if nothing else just say bad words like egoistic.Way to go haters keep it up as you are gonna need more of these when India will win this world cup. :)

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

ind consider rahane for opening with rohit to solid start and anchor role

Posted by vipinchirackal on (April 3, 2014, 4:31 GMT)

the sole reason of india excellent perfromance so far was they picked up the squad suitable for t20.ipl helped them to pick the t20 tailormade players.thats where pakistan committed the mistake.

Posted by vigneshwaran.b on (April 3, 2014, 4:30 GMT)

All the best SA. u can do it. only concern is about their Powerplay bowling. Damn too expensive.

Posted by TrulyIndiancricfan on (April 3, 2014, 4:24 GMT)

We need a lot of negative comments from our dear neighbors coz there had been so much talk before all the wins that we had an we proved everyone wrong..

Posted by gsss on (April 3, 2014, 4:22 GMT)

With India's strong spin attack, its very difficult for SA to cross even 100 runs as everyone knows SA is always weak against spin. R Ashwin , Mishra and Jadeja , sure will be the threat for SA.

Posted by ms2000 on (April 3, 2014, 4:19 GMT)

Good Luck India. The Very best wishes for your Win. You can do it. Just take care of the batting. From Sri Lanka

Posted by spinkingKK on (April 3, 2014, 4:09 GMT)

I think its going to b hard work for India. But, should get through to lose in the final against the West Indies.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 3:47 GMT)

Indian having poor batting line up,South africans wants to revise their strategy ...they can experiment with miller at number 3 or number 4 in order to maintain a good run rate .... Albi needs in depth overs ...Please note that , In the past matches Albi and miller come to bat next to next ................

Posted by green_baggy on (April 3, 2014, 3:44 GMT)

With in the last few months weaknesses of the indian team got exposed as never before and SA will capitalize on these. Not only SA will win the Semi Final but also they will teach the highly overrated and egoistic indians whose the boss. GO SA !!

Posted by jimbond on (April 3, 2014, 3:32 GMT)

This is where the T20 format rules. Steyn/Mishra has just 4 overs whereas someone like Kohli/ABD can bat for several overs. Wickets and the support bowling are the key in this match, as in any T20. A bit of luck and either side could go through.

Posted by r_ohit on (April 3, 2014, 2:08 GMT)

with four left hand batsmen in top seven, R ashwin is going to be real threat for sa. Hope for a sa choke!

Posted by Yuosufahmed on (April 3, 2014, 2:01 GMT)

Though my wishes go for my team, I think SA will beat us.

Posted by Rajesh_India_1980 on (April 3, 2014, 2:00 GMT)

My hopes go for Saffa win. Good luck SA.

Posted by MichaelBurton on (April 3, 2014, 1:59 GMT)

Best of luck Saffas for an easy win.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 1:55 GMT)

It is T20. Not 50 overs match. it is a game of do or die. anything is possible in this format of the game

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

All the best SA. You can do it.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

@Raman Bhatia.... well india definitely needs u bcz there is no such plan that can stop Ab. .. u could try ur luck.. the man doesn't have any weakness & that's his strength.

Posted by   on (April 3, 2014, 1:13 GMT)

I really dont think the South African quicks are a big threat. South Africa has not performed to their potential in this T20WC. Historically they are not very good players spin. So Dhoni would have his plan cut out. Moreover the two potential threats for India would be JP Duminy and Imran Tahir. Duminy, in form would play the incoming deliveries of Jadeja and Mishra reasonably well. So will david miller. De villiers, not a big threat.

Posted by Agila on (April 3, 2014, 1:12 GMT)

@IndianCoolGuy, Looks like you always feel good saying "Glass is half empty" Your comments show you have no idea what the heck is going around!

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (April 3, 2014, 0:34 GMT)

Not to sound cocky or over confident. But really, SA have no chance against India. Steyn can be a threat but hey, this is Bangladesh and not Durban or Cape Town. The only plausible threat is AB. He's a game changer. If India can remove him early, it's curtains for SA. India have all bases covered and the momentum is with them. They are the ONLY team with a perfect record in this tournament and they are looking good to win the championship. Every team who face India should be extremely worried from here on.

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (April 2, 2014, 23:59 GMT)

I am looking forward to Steyn and Morkel launching missiles at our batters again! How will our batters respond in the Bangla environment compared to how they responded in SA?

Posted by chakdeindianeverdie on (April 2, 2014, 23:40 GMT)

all maters winning big tournaments remember india won t2007 world cup in southafrican condition and icc champion trophy in england so dont understemate indian team.....jai ho..

Posted by arnie66 on (April 2, 2014, 23:17 GMT)

I believe that India has the upper hand in this match. All India's group games have been very convincing and they have won chasing as well as batting first. Their spinners are working well and bhuvaneshwar kumar has had a very good economy rate in the group matches. In contrast, South Africa survived by a Dale Steyn's over against NZ and barely got over the line against Netherlands. South Africa's batting appears particularly suspect and I wonder whether they will be able to handle India's spin attack as they can't even handle the bowling attacks of NZ and Netherlands. Amla and De Villiers are good players but they have not batted well in this tournament. SA are over dependent on Amla, De Villiers and Steyn.

Posted by CrickFan82 on (April 2, 2014, 23:16 GMT)

SA is a solid team, i don't think they are that bad at playing spin. But India have some quality spinners they have to watch out for. Having said that India shouldn't give Tahir too many cheap wickets like the other teams have given him. Tahir doesn't turn the ball as much as a leg spinner would, he does bowl full and straight, easier to play straight rather than playing cross batted shots. Indian bowlers are in really good form, and as always Steyn is in good form, this should be a very good match.

Posted by Cricmot on (April 2, 2014, 23:03 GMT)

@Hyder Zaman, thanks for your wishes. It's unfortunate that Pakistan didn't make it to semis. One bad day in the field ruined it for them. I wanted/expected them to be in semis. Coming to this match Ind has a bit of advantage over SA. Playing all 4 league matches in Mirpur gives a distinct advantage to Indians. India's perennial weakness has been their bowling, but looks like its sorted to some an extent in this tournament thanks to spin friendly pitches in Mirpur. Expecting a very competitive game between these two teams.

Posted by screamingeagle on (April 2, 2014, 22:43 GMT)

Arvind Sai, Lovely comments. Of course you do consider SA team to be performing like a well oiled machine? While reviewing, do that for both sides.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 22:12 GMT)

why these indianss underestimating all the teams except them.so many boasting all over. South Africa is a very good team and in t20 s enything could be happen.All the best South Africa...show them the talents..

Posted by yuvi_gladiator on (April 2, 2014, 22:02 GMT)

@ Bill Tremail forget about dhawan, i hope amla stays for first 6 overs. based on number of balls he wastes it would be good for india if he actually makes some

Posted by dr.shafikhan on (April 2, 2014, 22:01 GMT)

mr. jp duminy if u lose a match before the match even yet not played. so its better that south africa should start packing right now. u guys looks real chokers, at least one should have confidence and belief in themselves to confront an opposition in a crunch game.and say something confident,u already signaled that ur fans shouldnt expect a fight. what a weak stance from u guys. this tells the moral of the team. india better crush SA.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 21:58 GMT)

Indian batsmen have always scored runs against southafrican quicks in sub continent conditions. Its gonna be a real test for southafrican batsmen. Mishra, Ashwin and jadega will be a bigger threat to Southafrica than steyn and morkel to India. Most probably its gonna be a one sided game but I would love to some serious fight in the semis. Good luck to both the teams

Posted by Temuzin on (April 2, 2014, 21:52 GMT)

This will be a good match to watch. Both teams can beat one another but India has momentum and play better spin. Looks like India will win.

Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia on (April 2, 2014, 21:46 GMT)

I'm pretty confident that the Indian spinners will put up another good show (even if not as good as the matches in the group stage). They also have the advantage of having played on this track for a few games now so they know these conditions well now. The only question is can Steyn, Tahir and Co. do better than the Indian bowlers and bundle out India cheaply? The better bowling side on the day will win the match.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 21:33 GMT)

It will be SL and India final. SA like every team so far will crumble to India's good spinners. I am impressed by India's bowling!

Posted by wapuser on (April 2, 2014, 20:53 GMT)

Sri Lanka vs south Africa final . Although am hoping for west Indies victory Regardless south Africa is going to win this cup

Posted by Herath-UK on (April 2, 2014, 20:47 GMT)

Though I think India will pull off a win easily they should be a bit wary about somewhat resurgent SA. This is where IPL is helping them as they know well about the SA stars, bowling or batting.I'm sure Sri Lanka are going to be in the final so it is up to the Indians to decide whether they want to face them or not!

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 20:43 GMT)

well let us cross our fingers that India would bat well and post a formidable score against SA.

Posted by Y2G_87 on (April 2, 2014, 20:25 GMT)

As Yuvraj is not in Dhoni now has a chance to bring in Rahane and send back Rohith to support fragile middle order.

Now look into positives,

1. With Amla a terrestrial stroke maker and out of form De Cock occupying power play overs, and the other side Jadeja, Kohli, Raina, Rahane, Rohith, Dhawan guarding 30 yard circle, it looks SA will not score more than 6 an over.

2. A chance to test Jadeja in Yuvraj's slot, hoping he will not consume deliveries if he is not going to score.

3 Spin trio will operate as usual, Teasing Mishra, Attacking Jadeja (with both bat and ball) and Conservative Ashwin.

4. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar to complete his quota within 10 first overs and Shami to start his quota only after 10 overs, because one is good only with new ball and other is good with old ball.

5. Ashwin to bowl maximum of overs in the second half as Duminy, Miller and Albie/Parnel batting down the order.

Go INDIA Go.

SA why did you complete 1st in your group? So no cup this time too :(

Posted by ghouri_17thmcees on (April 2, 2014, 20:25 GMT)

SA are tagged as chokers in big tournaments like world cups, they are yet to win a knock out match in world cups but they always have entered as hot favorites in every world cup. They have been most powerful side in every big tournament but somehow they just could not able to hold their nerves in knock out match. This time i feel they have full planning and great chance against India and they will break the jinx and play the final of this T20. The Indian bowling has not been tested yet in front of world class batting like AB and Hashim Amla and they will definitely face the music against great players of SA. Indian bowling seems to be hammered by SA in all the important Semi Final. Will India be the chokers instead of SA this time???? lets see...................

Posted by Nawab67 on (April 2, 2014, 20:19 GMT)

@itsqashi... What credit should Dhoni give to other teams? Should he say they are the best!!! I'm puzzled to hear such comments. You will never hear Micheal Jordan or Majic Johnson saying other team is good. IMO, no captain should say the other team is good . Period.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 20:08 GMT)

can't wait for the game to start.. but wait... there's wi vs sl tonight & hopefully we'll meet Windies in the final.. Go India!!

Posted by kc69 on (April 2, 2014, 19:43 GMT)

@Nadun Gunawardana:You must be a professional comedian,mighty SL team beat an Inexperienced India in close games which went till last in both asia cup and practice game(Where Dhoni decided not to bat).Please try to remember how many finals have SL lost (Especially against India).

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 19:38 GMT)

To mention Tahir along with Badree and Mishra is a sacrilege. Tahir is a joke who got lucky with SA. He is lucky they have such excellent fielding. If he stayed in Pakistan I dont think he would he even make it to Rawalpindi XI.

Posted by Zillurcc on (April 2, 2014, 19:30 GMT)

Indians r the favorite but don't underestimate SA. They can turn any match in their favor.

Posted by GermanPlayer on (April 2, 2014, 19:29 GMT)

Surely this is going to be a historic game for Sa! Its not every day that a South African is the leading wicket taker in a World Cup - that too a spinner!!!!

Posted by KrikIndFan on (April 2, 2014, 19:26 GMT)

I hope "mediocre and the so-called mighty" India doesn't take the "all time almost champions will choke but still give a tough fight to remain heroes in the eyes of all fans" SA lightly, since they are neither "all time T20 WC semi-finalist & 1 time winner dreaming of at least 1 win against Ind in WC" Pak team nor they are "all time bridesmaid hardly win against Ind the one and only almost toothless lions" SL team. ....lol! sorry guys, its a joke, after reading a few comments couldn't help it. At the end, the team who bats, bowl and field better will win, not rocket science. So far all 4 teams are in full force, this is going to be anybody's trophy. Good luck to everyone!

Posted by svenkat02 on (April 2, 2014, 18:50 GMT)

I have a sneaky feeling India is going to thump SA. SA are coming from Chittagong where it barely spins, to Dhaka where even Ashwin turns it square. And both Ashwin and Mishra are in great form. If SA bat first, India will be at a huge advantage. SA's best bet is chasing.

Posted by manish317 on (April 2, 2014, 18:28 GMT)

Amla,ABD, Duminy are good players against spin.And apart from Mishra & Ashwin, Jadeja has gone for runs.So if SA manage to play out the spin duo and score around 160+, then it would a be great match. But if they fall around 150 or less, then Ind will definitely win with such a strong batting line-up.SA are strong when they set up a target and with some quality bowling & fielding attack they can win any match on their day.Hoping for a tight match.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (April 2, 2014, 18:26 GMT)

Great. All the Indian fans are saying SA will choke. Their fans must be wearing blinkers and havent been watching SA win 3 narrow games in a row. India have sailed through the group stages, will they now become unstuck in the semis...

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 18:07 GMT)

de kock on his way for a thrasher against India! if SA is bowling second, they're definitely winning.

Posted by Ashokdmightyindian on (April 2, 2014, 18:01 GMT)

@Posted by on (April 2, 2014, 16:33 GMT) seriously mate you mean India will crumble to worst spin attack in the world??like 87 or 60 allout?India can't chase 160+? you must be joking!In fact SA are extremely lucky to be here. They lost to SL because of good spin attack and then won the remaining with close encounters even with the associates!! Really it would have been the biggest scar on the face of a CSA had they lost to them. And you advising India? I reckon SA crumbling to their lowest total this time. Maybe 50 all out??ha ha

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

a@ Chris : if law of averages works..( depends on the past data not on fture )...if india fails to performs and if SA finds a way to not to choke..if ..if then SA wins :

As per the law of averages 20 if in a row works once in 2 rise to 20 i.e once in one million..please watch the game

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:54 GMT)

South Africa is an expert team in losing knockout matches. Everyone is talking about AB but there is very less chance that he will be able to perform bcoz Dhoni is very clever and India definitely come up with strong plan against AB. He is the only player in form.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:54 GMT)

steyn and morkel...AB and Faf...these guys are the real threats...However...would love to see steyn bowl with pace and hostility...its a sight to behold...India can win this only if they show the guts to face him with confidence...

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:46 GMT)

Cont.

Rohit and Rahane are most inconsisitent while Dhwan is yet to prove and at present not in form as well.

So, I doubt this Indian team crossing semis unless there is one more spin web against opponents.

All the team have scored in excess of 170 in their matches and India has not scored heavily in this tournament. Thanks to their bowling. India might loose in this area(scoring in excess of 170). Since they were playing for small totals they were slow in thier batting and this helped them in keeping wickets. To reach a total of 130 they almost played till 19th over all the 3 matches.On one bad day where Spin attack doesn't work, India might face issues.

Even Indian batsman are not that fluent as well in playing some of the spinners. Inidan batting also has a history of not playing well against Ajantha mendis, Muralidharan, Swann, panesar, mediore while facing Nathan mccullum in Newzealand. Not too good aganst spinners.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:45 GMT)

Frankly speaking... India has still many problems to resolve. It has purely won in all the four games with the help of spinners in helpful conditions.

All of a sudden 3 bowlers in bowling dept are in form.. Ashwin bowling beautifully, Mishra with good guile, Bhuvneswar was econimical in two matches. Still worries for other 2 bowling spots.. Jadeja and Shami were ordinary. Had Dhoni not given a chnace to Mishra in this T20.. result would have been different. I am 100% sure.

Indian batting has lot many issues than its bowling not only in this tournament but also from the day it started its journey in SA. They were never consistent barring Kohli. India is over dependent on this batting legend. Indian team is in similar situations as those days in 1990's where they were over reliant on Sachin. Apart from Kohli, Dhoni and Raina I dont see international class in their batting. Yuvraj is not yet in his prime form else he would have been in my list for international class.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:41 GMT)

hope dhoni's men doesn't under estimate south africa as they have the chokers tag....and more than AB ...I am worried abt miller and amla...hoping for an india win!!!!

Posted by vkumar_086 on (April 2, 2014, 17:32 GMT)

India should play well against Steyn..and not Tahir....we have played him very well before...moreover India wont succumbed to spin like non asian countries...Tahir will go for more than 9 runs in over on D day....the chokers' tag of SA will do the trick for India....ATB to both teams

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:29 GMT)

I fear India will pay for underestimating south africa. . remember its nt pak,wi,aus , who lacked test class batsman to deal with mishra.. (sa have 4 : hash,ab,faf,jp) & on song Ab can take any one to the cleaners.. still jp is the man with the runs india watch for him he is the star for me.. India is the favorites still.. but all the fav have lost .. lets wait & watch..hope for a cracker

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:20 GMT)

Why do I get the feeling this is going to be a very one-sided game !!!

Posted by itsqashi on (April 2, 2014, 17:18 GMT)

SA will give big shock to India in Semi. They are the best and they will prove themself. SA never make exsuses unlike Ind captain, how never wanna give credit to other team. Indian captain should play with big heart. Best of luck SA.

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (April 2, 2014, 17:08 GMT)

Amla is good against spin but this is not a test match. He also have to score at a high strike rate. AB is the only real threat. Indians can play Tahir better than other teams and Steyn is not going to get as much assistance in Dhaka.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:07 GMT)

No idea why people think any side will have definitive advantage? I think both semifinals will be great cricketing fight. No matter who wins, I think cricket will win.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:02 GMT)

SA is an excellent team & they have an advantage of IPL experience as compare to rest of the world, INDIA has to play its spin card properly, probably we will see Ashwin-Bhuvi opening bowling against Amla-Kock. Key is to weave a spin web against SA.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 17:01 GMT)

If the Law of Averages work..the Afrikaners should triumph. The Proteas are playing against the wind, unsuitable conditions, yet playing well. Without doubt they look the most formidable bowling attack in this years edition, that should send scare signals to the Indian Top order, that has history of plummeting to hostile pace attack. On the back of their minds, if the proteas carry the load of being tagged as chokers..nothing could stop them from loosing this game.

Posted by myStraightTalk on (April 2, 2014, 16:54 GMT)

Time to payback for the India defeat in SA tour. This is sub-continent pitch and not SA pitch..

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:36 GMT)

AB will make da difference.....

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:35 GMT)

Dhawan will not score double digits this time.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:33 GMT)

Do you India and SL fans notice that SA fans are not loud in here? Well that's because our expectations are not high up there. We expect our boys to get out there and give it a good fight. BTW India has not been tested thus far in this tourney. If SA bats first and score anything above 160, I fear for India. We might witness another Pak fallout!

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:33 GMT)

Best of luck to India. Have to say the way they came out from a forgettable asia cup they had, this ought to happen, another world cup under their belt. Cheers from Pak

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:30 GMT)

India should be wary of Amla first. He seems to be in good form and can give fast start.

Posted by indianzen on (April 2, 2014, 16:28 GMT)

Fearless cricketer ? Looks like Amla had a couple of shots ! SA will choke to Spin. Ind will bat first and put up 170. CSA will choke to 97 all out!

Posted by abiindia on (April 2, 2014, 16:25 GMT)

SA may get another choker's tag

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:25 GMT)

@ Nadun Gunawardana First think about srilankans game with windies..then you may prepare for final.....Remember one thing this is T20

Posted by KrikIndFan on (April 2, 2014, 16:21 GMT)

@Nadun, so you're a Russian neutral cricket fan who wants SL to win...???

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 16:06 GMT)

Wish india the best.Hope Rohit gives it back to steyn in a big way for the verbal humiliation in the test series.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 15:57 GMT)

People forget that T20 is largely a lottery, especially between good teams. A player who hits form, or even has a lucky shot, at a crucial stage can win the game. So a lucky streak is what South Africa has mostly been missing in ICC tournaments except for the inaugural ODI one (under a different name but still the ICC Championship) which they won. South Africa are in this semi-final because this time they were not only a strong team, they also had some luck and the sheer inspiration of AB De Villiers and Tahir. Luck and inspiration was lacking when they incorrectly earned the lable of chokers. In other words, no-one can possibly know in advance how this game is going to turn out. Were it a Test then having the worlds no.1 bowler and batsman may have helped a lot (as it has over the past three years) but it isn't. It is just a populist game of luck played between closely equal teams for the entertainment value thereof. One trick South Africa did miss is not selecting Philander. A pity.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 15:48 GMT)

I think there is a chance for both teams and SA will have the upper hand compared to india. Any way if india wins that will make SL life easy to be champs. SL has beat india in warmup game and ii Asia cup. By the way I am a Russian fan.

Posted by SevereCritic on (April 2, 2014, 15:41 GMT)

ABDV is the key as always. Get him quick and early. If he sticks around, he is going to wreck any bowling attack. For bowling, it is Steyn who is key (not Tahir). Indians would do best not to take on Steyn -- since Steyn is truly great on any kind of surface.

Posted by yuvi_gladiator on (April 2, 2014, 15:40 GMT)

"He is a fearless cricketer" is that even an argument for proving de kock can manage spin bowling?? Amla must be kidding

Posted by Coolcapricorn on (April 2, 2014, 15:38 GMT)

Whilst India will be more comfortable facing Tahir as opposed to SA's pace battery of Morkel, Steyn etc, the outcome of the match will be largely dependent on how the SA batsmen perform against India's spinners. Apart from their match against SL where they faced more than one frontline spinner & lost, all their other group matches were against teams playing just one main spinner. So it will be a real test for the SA batsmen but if they do well - which they are very capable considering the sheer class the likes of AB, Amla, etc have - they stand a good chance of winning.

Posted by BigINDFan on (April 2, 2014, 15:27 GMT)

If both teams play to their potential this will be like the finals. Both teams have strong batting line up and quality legspinners. The key difference is how Jadeja and Ashwin bowl to the SA batsmen. SA won their games in the last couple of overs in crunch matches. So for India it depends on how their top order and middle order bat in this game. Dhawan will have a score to settle with Steyn :-)

Posted by sensation on (April 2, 2014, 15:16 GMT)

India looks a very confident side and lots of chance that ind beat Africa in semi.. I don't believe in past every day is a new day Africa can beat India but they have to perform more than 100% to do that b/c Indian are at the moment very high in confidence lets hope to be a very good and exciting match not like India's previous 4 matches because its semi final stage and we want to see a good and interesting cricket..

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 15:16 GMT)

there are a few points here... only amla and ABD are genuinely good players of spin ; I won't buy the argument that duminy and de kock are good players of spin ; there s enough evidence to the contrary (de kock in SL and the IPL; duminy on prev tours to Ind).. and then SA are too focussed on the spin threat that they might actually be taken unawares by the Indian Pacers who have been excellent this tournament .... also I don't see tahir creating the same kind of havoc he did against the other sides.... the Ind batsmen will surely have a tough time against steyn Parnell and morkel but not against tahir

Posted by cricket_slcsupport on (April 2, 2014, 15:16 GMT)

All the Best India. South Africa will Loose the semi's. It's going to be India vs Sri-Lanka final. India will win this T20 World Cup.

SL will get lucky to come to the final. By the way I'm a Sri-Lankan fan.

Posted by Ashokdmightyindian on (April 2, 2014, 15:05 GMT)

Imran Tahir?? seriously guys??How come India has to be afraid of him. Isn't he the one whom Young Guns from India destroyed in the latest test match series against SA. In other cricketing column of SA news I read SA has two spinners,the other being Duminy. I could only laugh at it.I would request CSA not to play Imran Tahir in this match or he would end up his left over career!! SA has only one man-STEYN GUN!!He is the only fast bowler from green tracks in the world to threaten the ASIAN GIANTS.He doesn't need the pace from the pitches. He extracts it!!!He produces the pace!! So it's India vs One man army I would say. ABDV is another. He has regained his form back. So India beware, Kohli is not the only one to be praised in the world. For me the two best are gonna clash each other!!I can sum up as-ABDV vs Mishra and Kohli vs Steyn!!

Posted by IndianCoolGuy on (April 2, 2014, 14:43 GMT)

I am guessing that SA will put a better performance this time in Semis. But that will not guaranty that they are going to win for sure. Its a good match to watch.

Indian weakness is their opening. Dhawan has failed, and Rjinkya is not sure if he plays.Bit of confusion to MSD here and the same thing to pace bowling department as well. Whether to pick Mohit or Shami.

Rohit has played well in initial matches and that scares me. Rohit is a lazy boy and just plays for his place in the team and then gives up his wicket cheaply when we just start thinking that his place is secured. Dhawan is a bit unlucky in this series. He is the one who is going to take risks at initial stage but could not score much. I still believe that India should open with Ajinkya/Jadeja & Dhawan and push Rohit to middle. The positive thinks are Yuvi is back. Ashwin and Mishra are on the track as well. Raina, Kohli, Dhoni, Bhuvi have done well too.

Posted by   on (April 2, 2014, 14:40 GMT)

South Africa is a good side, but I dont think it is a balanced side in sub-continental condition.They lack quality spinners, and the batting line up is top heavy.

If you look into the sides made it to last 4, all has quality batting line up, but other than SA, all the other teams has bowling all rounders.

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