ICC World Twenty20 2010 May 13, 2010

Post IPL, players went into their comfort zones - Anil Kumble

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Former India captain Anil Kumble has said that Indian players could have slackened a bit following the IPL, where the pressure of performing for franchises is "quite intense".

"The pressure during the IPL is very different, as you are performing for your franchises," Kumble wrote in the Hindustan Times. "It's quite intense. Perhaps, the players felt more in their comfort zone when they went back into an Indian set-up and it cost them. It sounds odd but it makes sense."

Kumble was critical of India's handling of their fast bowlers during the tournament. "After Praveen Kumar went back, Zaheer Khan seemed to be struggling with something and Ashish Nehra, on his own, wasn't enough on that wicket. Our selection was wrong in Barbados, where we played an extra batsman. India did not show faith in Vinay Kumar on a wicket that offered both bounce and carry, which was a mistake," Kumble wrote.

Kumble was worried by the team management's inability to nurture fast-bowling talents. "If you look at the number of players who have turned out for India over the past couple of years, there's quality. Yet, they've all disappeared: You don't have Sreesanth, RP Singh is completely off the selectors' radar, there's no news of Munaf Patel, and Ishant Sharma seems out of sync. Irfan Pathan, a key player in any format, is gone.

"We need to look at how we're handling our pacemen - just like we've picked Abhimanyu Mithun, who turned out for India in the last one-dayer against South Africa, for the India A team. He should have been picked for the Zimbabwe tour. We're making the mistake of picking players for ODIs based on their IPL performance but bowling ten overs and four are completely different," Kumble wrote.

Kumble thinks India missed a trick in not including Irfan Pathan in the scheme of things, given his credentials as a seam-bowling allrounder. Instead, India was saddled with Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja, both spinning allrounders, who were umimpressive with the ball during the tournament. "In Irfan's case especially, it's worrying because while India have spinning allrounders, players who can do a bit here and there, they need someone for the role Shane Watson does so well for Australia, Jacques Kallis has done for years for South Africa or a Tim Bresnan, with his ability to bowl 137-138 kms per hour and then bat, is beginning to do for England," Kumble wrote.

Kumble also thought India paid for their lack of flexibility in the batting department. "Maybe, sending Yusuf Pathan out when the Sri Lankan spinners were bowling in tandem would have made more sense on that wicket. We needed someone to get a 20-ball 50. Also, someone like Dinesh Karthik, who's batted in the middle for India, would probably have been useful in the games in Barbados, given his ability to play the rising ball. India have to address the problem - either ensure that the guys in the team adapt to the bouncing ball or pick people who can play it," Kumble wrote.

Kumble's most telling observation was about the mindset of the team. "Despite knowing fully well what we needed to get before the game, we couldn't - Sri Lanka didn't look at getting 143, they looked at winning. They were not defensive and that's where they got it right.

"Their positive mindset was the difference between them and India, as evidenced by what Dhoni said after the loss to the West Indies. 'We'll play Lanka and go home'. India seemed already resigned to the fact that they were out and that was unacceptable," Kumble wrote.

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  • POSTED BY on | May 16, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Team India (Bunch of Losers) and BCCI is madly obsessed with Stupid, Rubbish, Non-Sense, Obsolete, Commercial event IPL, which is selling 6s and 4s on Lifeless Pitches. IPL-Mad Team India is losing Skill, Inspiration, Motivation, Hunger, Determination, Committment and Fitness to play International or Test Cricket on lively Pitches. Curators, Commentators and BCCI Officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is not thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in International Tournaments. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch at International level on lively pitches, unlike IPL Teams which looks like club cricket and played on lifeless pitches.

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | May 15, 2010, 21:56 GMT

    Just what Jumbo said,"picking Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja instead of Irfan Pathan makes no sense. We need a "seam-bowling allrounder" not an spinning allrounder." we know, selectors don't.

    "Sreesanth, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, and Ishant Sharma why are they not in the selectors' radar".... Whats wrong with the selectors?? You should be the chief selector Jumbo!!

    "Sending Yusuf Pathan out when the Sri Lankan spinners were bowling in tandem would have made more sense on that wicket" Yepp.....

    Dhoni is not a good captain anyways. He is a very defensive captain. Opening bowling with Harbhajan Singh is a bad idea, and it shows that you do not have any faith in your fast bowlers. Taking wickets is more important then bowling just dot balsl in any format of the game.

    "Dinesh Karthik should have been picked in all the games, given his ability to play the rising ball." "Either ensure that the guys in the team adapt to the bouncing ball or pick people who can play it" Nice one Jumbo!!!!

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | May 15, 2010, 21:32 GMT

    Jumbo!! great stuff man, I agree with every single thing you said!! This is the most complete thought, coming form the man who actually has the brains to know what went wrong.

    The players did went into their comfort zone. Just imagine putting these same 11 players in one IPL team, now ask yourself...

    Q. 1-Would these same players have not practiced against short-pitched bowling if IPL was in the West Indies?

    Q. 2-Would these same players who told BCCI that they did not wanted any practice matches in the West Indies before the T20 WC because they were very tired, would have also asked for the same before the start of the IPL??

    Q. 3-Why were they not tired before the IPL??? we were playing a lot of International matches.

  • POSTED BY ABP235 on | May 14, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    And post T20 world cup, they will go back to their 'monetary comforts' of IPL. Ban this IPL, please, please, for the sake of our country.

  • POSTED BY ABP235 on | May 14, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    someone mentioned Harbhajan..he is not featured in the wicket taking list. Because he HASNT TAKEN A SINGLE WICKET in this tournament!!! Inflate him more, even though the bubble has burst a long time ago. I have repeatedly commented Harbhajan's uselessness, still highly respected people like Kumble are not more clear about the need of the hour. We need to immediately move on from the likes of Dhoni, Zaheer, Nehra, Yuvraj and Harbhajan. But imagine Irfan Pathan and Robin Uthappa are still not in a second string team to Zimbabwe, nor in the A team to England. What is really happening, dear selectors? Results are not enough still? Better send all the seniors to play a test series against Bangladesh, we will automatically find youngsters to play for India. Indian selection is purely focused on commercial benefits (of fielding stars even without star appeal anymore) than cricketing sense. This has been the case always.

  • POSTED BY Buppi on | May 14, 2010, 10:07 GMT

    I agree with Kumble..Its true that players are accountable for thier team owners..! But not for the county..! If you dont win matches in IPL, team owner will question the team! If you lose in international series , do BBCI question the players? Dhoni's concerns should have been raised well before leaving to T20 World cup,not after the loss..! As Kumble said, Players went to comfort shell as soon as IPL was over..! whos gonna question them..! they are already stars..! It is very evident that players went to a PUB right after the loss to Srilanka and had some fun there..! (India is out of World cup), they are very sad, to forget that they wud have gone...jokes apart..! This is the clear impact of IPL, after evry match, u got IPL late night parties, where u can have some fun with drinks and gals..! when u play for country those thngs are not ther..! so the motivation is not there..(no party na after match)..! IPL IS THE ONLY REASON FOR INDIA'S EXIT, IF WE DONT STOP IPL, INDIAN CRICKET :(

  • POSTED BY manasvi_lingam on | May 14, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    If the "pressure" for playing for franchises is more than playing for India, then even Anil Kumble and everyone else who endorses this viewpoint should be ashamed. One must put more pressure to perform at the international level, where one is representing the Nation. Just because the franchises pay more, it doesn't mean that people have to put more pressure on themselves and in international events take things easily. Otherwise, we will go the way of football where the English national team despite comprising of many talented players has never won in the recent past. The IPL must be ended, or the players have to be made very, very accountable in international cricket. Even if a player performs badly for 1 series he should be given the axe

  • POSTED BY Venkatesh.cric on | May 14, 2010, 1:41 GMT

    Jumbo Feeling the pain wt every indian is feeling after such pathatic performance, INDIA won in 2007 because team was young energetic and charged, moreover they wanted win the WC. but it was not the same team spirit this year, they have got enough money from IPL and now they want to enjoy their holidays and BCCI has agreed for it by giving senior player rest Great!!!!!. When Captain of team is very lazy and doesnt want to win then how do u expect team to deliver, DHONI can win toughest matchs for CHENNAI but y not for INDIA, its great shame, team with DRAVID,SACHIN,GANGULY and may be VENKATESH PRASAD still fit for the game would have made it to FINAL of WC i belive.

    Why was Jadeja Vijay, and nehra in the team are the among best 15 we get in INDIA

    SACHIN we really missed you buddy :(

  • POSTED BY David47 on | May 14, 2010, 1:17 GMT

    OK - let's get real. Kumble - your comments only outline the effects of the problem. SRT's comments? - Sachin, you are just plain wrong. There are over 1 billion people in India, over 60 million in England, more than that in both Pakistan and Banga, and more than 21 million in SA. Why is it then that Aus, with just 21 million people, has consistently produced better results than any other team?? Don't believe me?, then check out the all-time test stats. Aus has a better win-loss record against EVERY other test playing nation. Also the best in ODIs for ICC trophy results and the current No 1. And, in all likelihood, about to be crowned T20 champions. Now, do you think this has all happened by accident? noooo. Have we just been lucky to have consistently had better teams than the others? noooo. Well, we must be doing something different from the other nations - yes???? Then, isn't it about time you found out what it is???? (and don't talk about sledging - I'm being serious).

  • POSTED BY BullayBaaz on | May 13, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    Kumble's analysis is on the money. However, he did not directly critisize the Captain. When Dhoni does a great job of captaining, he has gotten all the credit. This time, apart from poor performance from the team, the captaining was extremely poor. On a slow pitch playing 3 seamers and 2 on a slow pitch made little sense. Bowling changes and rotations didn't seem to make sense in certain matches. Even the batting order in some of the matches was mind bogling. Dhoni seemed out of sync - not his usual self.

    I am (used to be?) a major fan of Yuvi. But now it is time the decision makers (captain, coach, selectors) tell him to shape up or ship out. He needs to shape up ohysically and mentally. He seems completely disintered in playing cricket. If he wants to salvage what still can be a great career, he should get some wisdom from Tendulkar.

    No team can be "badshah" (king) of cricket without being able to play bounce and pace. Hire Dravid as batting coach.

  • POSTED BY on | May 16, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Team India (Bunch of Losers) and BCCI is madly obsessed with Stupid, Rubbish, Non-Sense, Obsolete, Commercial event IPL, which is selling 6s and 4s on Lifeless Pitches. IPL-Mad Team India is losing Skill, Inspiration, Motivation, Hunger, Determination, Committment and Fitness to play International or Test Cricket on lively Pitches. Curators, Commentators and BCCI Officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is not thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in International Tournaments. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch at International level on lively pitches, unlike IPL Teams which looks like club cricket and played on lifeless pitches.

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | May 15, 2010, 21:56 GMT

    Just what Jumbo said,"picking Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja instead of Irfan Pathan makes no sense. We need a "seam-bowling allrounder" not an spinning allrounder." we know, selectors don't.

    "Sreesanth, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, and Ishant Sharma why are they not in the selectors' radar".... Whats wrong with the selectors?? You should be the chief selector Jumbo!!

    "Sending Yusuf Pathan out when the Sri Lankan spinners were bowling in tandem would have made more sense on that wicket" Yepp.....

    Dhoni is not a good captain anyways. He is a very defensive captain. Opening bowling with Harbhajan Singh is a bad idea, and it shows that you do not have any faith in your fast bowlers. Taking wickets is more important then bowling just dot balsl in any format of the game.

    "Dinesh Karthik should have been picked in all the games, given his ability to play the rising ball." "Either ensure that the guys in the team adapt to the bouncing ball or pick people who can play it" Nice one Jumbo!!!!

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | May 15, 2010, 21:32 GMT

    Jumbo!! great stuff man, I agree with every single thing you said!! This is the most complete thought, coming form the man who actually has the brains to know what went wrong.

    The players did went into their comfort zone. Just imagine putting these same 11 players in one IPL team, now ask yourself...

    Q. 1-Would these same players have not practiced against short-pitched bowling if IPL was in the West Indies?

    Q. 2-Would these same players who told BCCI that they did not wanted any practice matches in the West Indies before the T20 WC because they were very tired, would have also asked for the same before the start of the IPL??

    Q. 3-Why were they not tired before the IPL??? we were playing a lot of International matches.

  • POSTED BY ABP235 on | May 14, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    And post T20 world cup, they will go back to their 'monetary comforts' of IPL. Ban this IPL, please, please, for the sake of our country.

  • POSTED BY ABP235 on | May 14, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    someone mentioned Harbhajan..he is not featured in the wicket taking list. Because he HASNT TAKEN A SINGLE WICKET in this tournament!!! Inflate him more, even though the bubble has burst a long time ago. I have repeatedly commented Harbhajan's uselessness, still highly respected people like Kumble are not more clear about the need of the hour. We need to immediately move on from the likes of Dhoni, Zaheer, Nehra, Yuvraj and Harbhajan. But imagine Irfan Pathan and Robin Uthappa are still not in a second string team to Zimbabwe, nor in the A team to England. What is really happening, dear selectors? Results are not enough still? Better send all the seniors to play a test series against Bangladesh, we will automatically find youngsters to play for India. Indian selection is purely focused on commercial benefits (of fielding stars even without star appeal anymore) than cricketing sense. This has been the case always.

  • POSTED BY Buppi on | May 14, 2010, 10:07 GMT

    I agree with Kumble..Its true that players are accountable for thier team owners..! But not for the county..! If you dont win matches in IPL, team owner will question the team! If you lose in international series , do BBCI question the players? Dhoni's concerns should have been raised well before leaving to T20 World cup,not after the loss..! As Kumble said, Players went to comfort shell as soon as IPL was over..! whos gonna question them..! they are already stars..! It is very evident that players went to a PUB right after the loss to Srilanka and had some fun there..! (India is out of World cup), they are very sad, to forget that they wud have gone...jokes apart..! This is the clear impact of IPL, after evry match, u got IPL late night parties, where u can have some fun with drinks and gals..! when u play for country those thngs are not ther..! so the motivation is not there..(no party na after match)..! IPL IS THE ONLY REASON FOR INDIA'S EXIT, IF WE DONT STOP IPL, INDIAN CRICKET :(

  • POSTED BY manasvi_lingam on | May 14, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    If the "pressure" for playing for franchises is more than playing for India, then even Anil Kumble and everyone else who endorses this viewpoint should be ashamed. One must put more pressure to perform at the international level, where one is representing the Nation. Just because the franchises pay more, it doesn't mean that people have to put more pressure on themselves and in international events take things easily. Otherwise, we will go the way of football where the English national team despite comprising of many talented players has never won in the recent past. The IPL must be ended, or the players have to be made very, very accountable in international cricket. Even if a player performs badly for 1 series he should be given the axe

  • POSTED BY Venkatesh.cric on | May 14, 2010, 1:41 GMT

    Jumbo Feeling the pain wt every indian is feeling after such pathatic performance, INDIA won in 2007 because team was young energetic and charged, moreover they wanted win the WC. but it was not the same team spirit this year, they have got enough money from IPL and now they want to enjoy their holidays and BCCI has agreed for it by giving senior player rest Great!!!!!. When Captain of team is very lazy and doesnt want to win then how do u expect team to deliver, DHONI can win toughest matchs for CHENNAI but y not for INDIA, its great shame, team with DRAVID,SACHIN,GANGULY and may be VENKATESH PRASAD still fit for the game would have made it to FINAL of WC i belive.

    Why was Jadeja Vijay, and nehra in the team are the among best 15 we get in INDIA

    SACHIN we really missed you buddy :(

  • POSTED BY David47 on | May 14, 2010, 1:17 GMT

    OK - let's get real. Kumble - your comments only outline the effects of the problem. SRT's comments? - Sachin, you are just plain wrong. There are over 1 billion people in India, over 60 million in England, more than that in both Pakistan and Banga, and more than 21 million in SA. Why is it then that Aus, with just 21 million people, has consistently produced better results than any other team?? Don't believe me?, then check out the all-time test stats. Aus has a better win-loss record against EVERY other test playing nation. Also the best in ODIs for ICC trophy results and the current No 1. And, in all likelihood, about to be crowned T20 champions. Now, do you think this has all happened by accident? noooo. Have we just been lucky to have consistently had better teams than the others? noooo. Well, we must be doing something different from the other nations - yes???? Then, isn't it about time you found out what it is???? (and don't talk about sledging - I'm being serious).

  • POSTED BY BullayBaaz on | May 13, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    Kumble's analysis is on the money. However, he did not directly critisize the Captain. When Dhoni does a great job of captaining, he has gotten all the credit. This time, apart from poor performance from the team, the captaining was extremely poor. On a slow pitch playing 3 seamers and 2 on a slow pitch made little sense. Bowling changes and rotations didn't seem to make sense in certain matches. Even the batting order in some of the matches was mind bogling. Dhoni seemed out of sync - not his usual self.

    I am (used to be?) a major fan of Yuvi. But now it is time the decision makers (captain, coach, selectors) tell him to shape up or ship out. He needs to shape up ohysically and mentally. He seems completely disintered in playing cricket. If he wants to salvage what still can be a great career, he should get some wisdom from Tendulkar.

    No team can be "badshah" (king) of cricket without being able to play bounce and pace. Hire Dravid as batting coach.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 23:06 GMT

    I am generally shocked at the manner Dhoni has been acting post IPL, saying he and his team respect the country more than his countrymen. How can he even make such a statement? Anyway, even Kumble has been very gentle in his criticism, eulogizing greed for money as going into comfort zone. Well typical of Indian ex-cricketers these days.

  • POSTED BY Sandeep7282 on | May 13, 2010, 22:27 GMT

    Don't blame everything on IPL, look at players who are performing in T20-Jayawardhere, KP,Warner,lumb,raina all there guys have done well for there respective franchises as well.We don't have a bowler who can bowl yorkers at will like Malinde and tait and coaches at root level should encourage young bowlers to bowl quick and not to over concentrate on line and length and sacrificing pace. Why don't we innovate in our domestic circuit give bowlers a buffer to bowl 3 shortpich balls and play on play on 2piches for a 5day match, that way we can bring quicks into game and by the course of time batsmen will adapt to shortpitch stuff

  • POSTED BY Sandeep7282 on | May 13, 2010, 21:56 GMT

    BCCI and the IPL governing body should seriously look on schedule of the IPL, the matches are too thick and fast and should also keep in mind that we are not the fittest guys in the business,and we never were. If we look into the performers in IPL in all three editions its been the overseas players who are getting an advantage than indian chaps, i mean you will have a guy like sachin performing as a batsmen but its no good for this format as he is not going to be part of T20 same the case with kumble. But on a bigger picture its the non-subcontinent players getting real exposure of turning tracks and they are getting better. The better way to hold the event would be to play IPL each year in different countries, that way our players get exposure to different conditions(If BCCI is willing to loose a little share of money).

  • POSTED BY syedahmed91 on | May 13, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    being a pakistani I was quite suprised that india completely ignored Irfan Pathan, not even included in the 30 possiblities. Irfan Pathan is the only recoginized pace bowler from India, who can swing both ways, give you speed when you need and he can smash any bowling line up any time. Playing 5-6 spinners and only 2 fast bowlers makes no sense in any format. India needs to recall Irfan and give him more chances, he's proved to be a great asset to the team in the past.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 21:21 GMT

    evry1 seems to be saying that harbhajan singh was the only effective bowler...anyone wants to guess how many wickets did d so called best indian spinner take???? frankly i cldnt find his name in the wicket takers list, which implies he took less than 3 wickets...y dont India have a genuine wicket taking spinner is smthing i can never understand.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 20:53 GMT

    Once the money has become the important factor, it would be difficult to coupe up with the situation. In that event, country becomes on the second line. India should select different teams for 20-20, 50-50 and tests as there are completely different criterias for playing those game. Young bloodshould be encouraged. Finess must be given top priority. During the matches, other than game, all things must be banned.( partying, shooting etc.) IPL structure should be changed so also selectors should change their mind set up and put some restrictions on the players. Please retrospect and act fast to correct the situation.

  • POSTED BY Sidharth.singh on | May 13, 2010, 20:49 GMT

    Those who compare with SL must compare apples with apples- firstly, most of their team is new and young, they have a mission.. look at the 2 seniors who failed miserably after IPL - Jayasuriya, Sangakara. Second, Its Jayawardena's form which they were riding on. Anyone who saw today's performance against England wouldnt probably ever cite Lanka as a good example ever. There was no difference bw them and India today. Poor batting and miserable in the field, with a complete lack of desire to win !

  • POSTED BY Sidharth.singh on | May 13, 2010, 20:48 GMT

    Those who compare with SL must compare apples with apples- firstly, most of their team is new and young, they have a mission.. look at the 2 seniors who failed miserably after IPL - Jayasuriya, Sangakara. Second, Its Jayawardena's form which they were riding on. Anyone who saw today's performance against England wouldnt probably ever cite Lanka as a good example ever. There was no difference bw them and India today. Poor batting and miserable in the field, with a complete lack of desire to win !

  • POSTED BY Sidharth.singh on | May 13, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    In all my 20 years of being a die hard indian team fan, I have seriously never seen more crap or frustrating play of the game as in this T20 world cup - a couple of matches here and there, but for such an extended run - NEVER !!!!!

    You dont need a cricketing genius of kumble or anyone to figure it out - its simple psychology - any great thing needs great motivation. If this team won the tournament - what happens - they still have their IPL jobs, still stay in the team...nothing changes. Now bring in the Rayudus, Uthappas, Tiwaris and if they win the world cup - their life changes - they come in Indian ODI or test team. It all comes down to motivation and there is no doubt the team is seriously lacking it - and anyone who also argues IPL is not responsible is living in a fools paradise.

  • POSTED BY IGL2010 on | May 13, 2010, 20:44 GMT

    India lost as they did not play as a TEAM! that is the ONLY problem.

  • POSTED BY Stevo_ on | May 13, 2010, 20:40 GMT

    @Dr.D on (May 13 2010, 14:31 PM GMT)

    Ban the bouncer? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard. Do you want to take away the only weapon a bowler has left? Playing the short ball is about courage and discipline, two attributes that add towards a great cricket player. They have helmets an more padding than you can poke a stick out. Ban the bouncer - please Huge bats, fielding restrictions, covered pitches, ropes , two bouncer rule - the batsmen has it all in his favour, and you want to remove the bouncer all together - crazy

  • POSTED BY Ajronald on | May 13, 2010, 20:36 GMT

    After India's loss to SriLanka in the Super Eight - I just wondered if this is a great news ... for I never considered this as a major tournament for the Indian players. The IPL happened last year ... it happened this year ... the Twenty20 world cup happened last year ... this year too ... so .. u think players of Sachin, Dravid and Laxman to save the Indian test team ... just because they do not appear in Twenty20 .... remember they appear in IPL. Ok ... how IPL is far away from reality ... think again ... how it woud have been worst if IPL is not there ... no speculations .... think again ...when u say specialized players to Twenty20 .. u never rule a specialized coach for Twenty20 ... think about ... Kirsten is an old man .. ofcourse

  • POSTED BY gatta44 on | May 13, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    I fully agree with Kumble's analysis and Gary Kirsten's questions. I am disappointed with India's performance. India missed Viru. Uthappa, who is in good form, should have been included for these T20 games. Who makes the decision to select the final XI? Is it captain, coach or someone else? After losing to Australia with 3 bowlers, why they did not include Vinay Kumar for the WI match on a bouncy track? Why choosing to bowl first when you don't have wicket taking bowlers. Why opening with Harbhajan who did not take a single wicket in this tournament? For T20, they must have 4, if not 5, regular bowlers (3 fast, one spin), 5th bowler can be part timers such as Yuvraj, Raina, and Rohit. Instead of Yusuf and Jadeja, Irfan should have been included in the team. For T20, if required, Harbhajan, Zaheer and Praveen can bat. It is sad that Dhoni was ready to return to India after WI loss. If they are so tired of playing cricket, give them a long break. Longer than just Zimbabwe tour.

  • POSTED BY zebrosky on | May 13, 2010, 20:13 GMT

    Selection Issues - Sack the selectors. Is there betting going on selection too? certain players seem to make the cut despite logic :). Ishant Sharma has always done well on fast surfaces so he should have been picked irrespective of IPL form. Same is true for Irfan Pathan. Add these 2 players and opposition batting might appear as brittle as Indian batting. 2 early wickets and India might be chasing 130 instead of 170+ against Australia and west Indies and that would have a different ball game altogether. Bouncers could have been left alone had the chase been smaller.

    IPL is the not the issue - as someone pointed out correctly - there were other players like half the Srilankan side, Steyn, Morkel, AB, Kallis, Peterson, Lumb, etc who played that tourney and are still performing...... Yusuf Pathan - he can't touch a ball on bouncy pitches! What a waste of spot. Ravindra Jadeja - Why is India opting for him!! Can't turn the ball, can't bounce, can't catch, can't bat!

  • POSTED BY Hotyogi on | May 13, 2010, 20:09 GMT

    Playing for India has to be the highest motivator. What these T20 players dont realize is that its their national selection that brings them to the IPL forefront and the cash and fame that comes with it. There's a thousand deserving cricketers looking for half a chance -- give S Tiwary, Mithun, Uttapa, Pujara, Pandey, Ojha, even half a chance, create a team built around a couple of good seniors and a bunch of these talented youngsters and in a couple of years, we will have a bunch of world beaters. We also need to recognize that T20 is becoming more and more like test cricket in its team composition. We need 5 specialist bats, 4 bowlers, 1 sp wk and 1 allrounder. Its 20 overs if your 5 bats + allrounder cannot last 20 overs they should not be around in the first place. We also need relatively uncluttered uncorrupted fresh minds like Ganguly, Kumble to either manage the team, nuture new talent or even become part of the selection process. n

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    what BS, Kumble has an agenda here to save IPL from the critics. Two times running, the INdians have lost T20 because of the greed that is enveloping them. IPL is no match to International cricket,

  • POSTED BY lucyferr on | May 13, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Kumble's analysis seems pretty decent. Wish he'd said something about pitches, though. PS: LOL @ Dr D's #4 .

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    Yes I am 100% agree with Kumble .......Bowling department was awful.... We missed Irfan P... By the way all the players were looking tired in fielding and batting too...Gambir's running between the wicket....since Gambir's performance was not great in IPL Perfect Team would be ....Sevwag, Ojha, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Yousuf, Irfan, Tiwari, Zaheer, Harbajan, Pragyan Ojha, Dinda, .......

  • POSTED BY MuraliChiku on | May 13, 2010, 19:48 GMT

    After all this drama, Chief selector and group of selectors are not selected to Robin uthappa for Zimbabwe tour!!, They say all the good young players have been included for Zimbabwe tour but no Utahappa's name.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    India should rotate the bowlers and batsmen for different formats of the game, instead of selecting the same team, first of all indian team will be far better without Yuvraj, he is a bad influence in the team. And the next thing is Selection panel must be revamped, right now it is packed with jokers.

  • POSTED BY VAS4 on | May 13, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    Kumble is correct with his observations. The players did not show any hunger or any seriousness. It was extremely disappointing to see such a horrible performance from our team. It looks like money is the only motivator for them. Yuvraj singh should not have been in the team at the first place after his long run of terrible form. He is still hanging in there only because of the sixes he hit in the first world cup. It was criminal not giving a chance to Uthappa. He should have been considered instead of pathan. Zaheer khan should consider retirement from t20 matches. Rohit sharma should reduce some weight so that he can atleast walk out of the ground quickly. 75% of the blame should go to the selection team who selected players based on their past history rather than current performance and west indies playing conditions. No point in blaming bouncers. Dhoni was negetive and un inspirational. we may need a new captain as well.

  • POSTED BY HarisKhan on | May 13, 2010, 19:01 GMT

    Anil is right on the money!!! Sreesanth, RP Singh is completely off the selectors' radar, there's no news of Munaf Patel, and Ishant Sharma seems out of sync. Irfan Pathan, a key player in any format, is gone I am from Pakistan and love to see India do good. They finally figured it out how to play as a "TEAM" and a "UNIT" (as opposed to Pakistan). I guess don't be so hard on yourself. India will come around

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 18:57 GMT

    Playing for franchises and money, Indian team does well.. Playing for country, they just give up.. what was the motive behind keeping yuvi and other big names rather than keeping players who are in form??? They just trust big names who are out of form, and still, those big names just disappoint the team after giving so many chances. Ask all those players out of form to play domestic cricket, coz we have unknown talents in our country. atleast they deserve some chance. And, pace bowling simply pathetic..

  • POSTED BY BigINDFan on | May 13, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    India was tired and misjudged the pitches in WestIndies to be all slow hence no extra preparation required coming off the IPL. Three things need to be done if the BCCI and Kirsten are listening 1. Just like AUS and Eng create 3 seperate IND teams for T20, ODI and Tests 2. Balance the teams based on the needs of the formats - young, fit and hungry lads for T20, experienced but players at peak for ODI and really experienced seasoned stars for Tests 3. Organize special tri-nation series for T20 to give the young team opportunities to hone their batting, bowling and fielding skills.

    Bouncers - Every batsman struggles but some cope better than others. Look at KP, Shane Watson and none other than Sehwag for how to play horizontal bat shots either side of the stumps. Hire specialist batting and bowling coaches to fix issues.

    Good luck IND team for WC2011! Like the Red Sox all you have to do is BELIEVE!

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 18:40 GMT

    Running between the wickets was horrible. Specially Ghambir. As Ravi Shashtri pointer out he doesn't even ground his bat. Except Raina, everyone played bad cricket. Form of Yuvraj & Yousuf Pathan terrible. Our cricketers will only shine infront of Bollywood Heroines. It would be better if Indian team would havebrought Preeti Zinta Shilpa Shetty along with the team.

  • POSTED BY svinodmenon on | May 13, 2010, 18:32 GMT

    1.India still play 4 days matches frequently than the shorter format 50 or 20 overs game. 2. Inidan pitches are dead and does not assist fast bowlers not even spinners. 3. Local players were not given priority in IPL every team looked to pressure up 4 foreign players. 4. IPL format should change and teams should play in groups like what we see in T20 world tournament so as to finish it soon. 5. Each team should prepare a squad of 15-20 total players before the IPL tournament and should play with the same players. The problem is not with the players it is with BCCI. Good quality of pitches and more 50 / 20 overs local tournament is the only resolution unless no bowlers will bowl 140kmph+. Ashwin, Jakati, Ojha, Mishra M Karthik, A mithun, U Yadhav, and so others should be given some chance at international level. From now on india should pick 6-7 bowlers for a tournament and should give chance for all the bowlers. Rotation policy should be implemented to bowlers even for batsman & WK.

  • POSTED BY sam7788 on | May 13, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    Well what surprised me the most is that on a bouncy track against WI the indian team did not play Vinay kumar and then when the track against SL was a slow turner they decided to play Vinay Kumar..ridiculous. I mean the body language of the indians was giving it away as being complacent. the way they batted against the WI attack was pathetic. Rohit Sharma is my least favorite player and I see no place for him in the squad but I was so impressed by his performance in that one off game. GOd knows why Dhoni kept on backing up Jadeja. Jadeja has not turned out to be a match winner in one single game...yeah he chips in with a wicket or two here and there against avg teams but solid teams like Australia and SL expose his mediocre talent and is reason enough why he should not be in the team...pathetic fielding, batting as good as harbhajan (sometimes harbhajan is better) and bowling which even a high school kid can do better. Bottom line is that watching India play doesn't excite me anymore!!

  • POSTED BY nashdwaj on | May 13, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    Unacceptable it is! call it conspiracy theory. I think dhoni and his team has deliberately underperformed and thrown the towel. I think this is some sort of stupid protest over scheduling. How else can you explain the idiotic selection, winning toss and opting to bowl when all teams are dying to bat first. In the last game 73 runs from 10 overs with wickets in hand in just not like it. i did not see the same desperation from dhoni when he hit 16 runs in last over for chennai ..when he wore the indian colors. shame on him and the team. I never have seen this attitude from stalwarts like Kumble, Sachin, Dravid...they always play for the country and nothing less.

  • POSTED BY ElectronSmoke on | May 13, 2010, 16:21 GMT

    There might be lot of debate going back and forth - we don't have the benefit of retrospect at the time we are out in the field with the bunch of players selected for that day. However, Kumble's insights are based on years of experience accumulated in international circuit, as well as by watching most of these upcoming players from close quarters. Given how much commitment, passion and nous he shows even for IPL matches - worth a thought!

  • POSTED BY santhoshkudva on | May 13, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    blaming the IPL for the WC debacle amounts to downplaying the significance of the league. what if a gruelling six test series preceded the IPL? would we have blamed the test series? One of the challenges of sport is endurance. The likes of courtney walsh and curtly Ambrose bowled 20 overs in spells in the carribean but never once complained. I am not too big a fan of the IPL, but it is certainly not the reason for the poor show.

  • POSTED BY Sri_chicago on | May 13, 2010, 16:07 GMT

    Totally agree with Jumbo (Kumble). He's spot on in his assessment and criticism. Dhoni's attitude is DEPLORABLE - he has shown that he is past his prime and the mental toll of the last four years has worn him out. Simply unacceptable is his continued and unqualified support for the unfit and indisciplined and poor Yuvraj. Also his strategies with the batting order and not picking Vinay or Karthik were completely flawed. I agree with Ravi Shastri that we need a new captain as also pick youngsters for the future. Folks like Virat Kohli should be a shoo-in given the bunch of jokers in the current indian side. Pick guys from the Under-19 side that went to Australia - even if they lose for a while let them learn and improve, as also teach these so-called seniors a lesson.

  • POSTED BY US_Indian on | May 13, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    Awesome observation and an excellent analysis-just like your 95kph flippers which trap people right in front of the wicket. Selection team out LBW for 0. Again I re-iterate the fact you have been the unsung hero of Indian Cricket for the last 2 decades, where as every Tom,Dick and Harry has stolen the limelight, been praised to the sky. But the truth is you did not care for those petty things and performed the only way you can do and always putting India's success to the front and always believed in winning-that mindset and killer instinct, street fighting attitude is totally missing from this bunch of players- who are more after money, glamour and wine and women, and the same goes with the selectors they are not flexible, they dont think and act smart, they dont want to get out of the comfort zone. The Mantra of the selectors should be "Player performance and consistency" if not just Kick them out".Everyone should fight for their place in the team, simple as that.Do u Hear-Selectors.

  • POSTED BY keshav021 on | May 13, 2010, 15:54 GMT

    Dhoni is becoming more selfish player, all that is important for him is walking off the pitch as a "NOT OUT" batsmen. He promoted himself in the batting order and what did he do scored 23 of 19 balls??? that too in a crucial match. He didn't even show any intent to score boundaries. If you all remember (after winning the match for CSK) "Your franchise pays so much money for you, you should at least make the semi-finals." he said that in the presentation ceremony.... so if he has to play like that than BCCI note those comments pay him more and he will make sure we will get into semifinals atleast... that was soooo stupid comment... I always wonder why he is called a great captain.. if you look at the match results which india won under his captaincy its always one or the other player contributed to the team cause and he gets the credit for it.. what the hellll.....

  • POSTED BY Sunil_Canada on | May 13, 2010, 15:54 GMT

    I do not like it, I do not support it, but let me make a comparison with NHL, NBA, NFL in North America. IPL has been copied from the North American concept. Money is the most important issue & why should it not be as long people are ready to pay for it. Currently NHL playoff matches are going on in North America and at the same time Ice Hockey World Championship is being played in Europe. Believe it or not for the payers their club NHL matches are more important as such only the payers whose teams have lost are in the country teams. This may sound unpatriotic but this is real. If IPL continues to be successful, it may become more important than country, like it or not! Be ready to accept it.

  • POSTED BY Gansmith on | May 13, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    Recall DRAVID for ODIs and DROP YUVRAJ or we will NOT WIN WC 2011. Yuvraj cannot play the new ball and should be dropped form all formats. We have lots of match winners in all teams and what we need now is consistency. We need Zaheer to get slim again. The fitness of all players is bad excluding the Big Three (VVS, Dravid and Sachin). There needs to be a crack down on the SENIORS...they are taking their place in the squad for granted. Competition and pressure should be placed on all bowlers so they realize that every game is important and plays a factor for the next games selection. Selectors need to get their head straight and select P Ohja, Murali Kartik for T20 and Dravid for ODI...Dravid brings consistency becasue half the time without Tendulkar the team is no good. Without Dravid we will not win the world Cup in 2011.

  • POSTED BY Shantharaj on | May 13, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    Main reasons: 1. Our guys don't have stamina to handle bouncers 2. Shewag , Uttapa, Tiwari were missing 3. Yuvraj was not in farm since 1 one year and he is not fit physically 4. Out test team (Sachin and Rahul) wuld have played better than many t20 players. 5. Our pace Bowling is very week compare any super 8 teams. 6. Our guys plays like heros on flat Indian pitches.

  • POSTED BY vigneshvinu on | May 13, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    I think BCCI should pay more money than IPL.Then only players like rohit ,yusuf will bat well & ravindra can field like jonty rhodes. bcoz in IPL everyone is performed well who is present in the current indian side.

  • POSTED BY aryaan on | May 13, 2010, 15:01 GMT

    What india should do 1. india should invest in youth 2. india need 4 to 5 fast bowlers who can consistently bowl between 140 -150 or 160 for years 3. india need to organise ipl some other time as it clashes with world t 20 world cup which left no room for the team practice. 4. world cup of any format has a far more importance than a ipl cricketers need to learn that . 5. india need to find a solution for short pitch bowling & bouncers mere ducking them is not a solution as in t20 there is not enough time & india need to find it quick otherwise u will see bouncers on the menu in next years t20 & as well as in one day worldcup which is nextyear in india & india should start prepareing 4 that from now . 6.india need to organise events like fastest bowler of india regularly & every year so we can get good & real fast bowlers & for batsman they need to setup an academy where they canlearn proper pull & hook 7. india need good practice before every world cup

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Kumble is spot on in analysis, India need players who play for the Indian Flag and represent the country with patriotism and intensity, it is not about money, that is what IPL has made out of these cricketers, their desire for representing this natio has diminished, it is high time we clean up this mess and resurrect ourselves as India in cricket and play for tri colours

  • POSTED BY ganeshkg on | May 13, 2010, 14:58 GMT

    I agree with Anil Kumble's point of view. The major problems were with 1. Team Selection: We always new that west indian pitches would be bouncy and we missed out with our major fast bowlers like Ishanth, Munaf, Irfan pathan and RP Singh. Inspite of thier superb performances in IPL Virat Kohli, Manish Pandey and Robin Utthappa could not make it to T20 world cup squad and on what basis did they pick Dinesh karthik? 2. Game plan: In comparison, a T20I tournament is far beyond IPL, where we are up against world class bowlers and batsmens. Though its not a big point, T20 grounds were way bigger than IPL grounds where clearing ropes looked so easy! Certainly, there was lack of game planing and execution in T20 world cup. Dhoni's decision to bowl first in the last two super eight matches costed us a lot. 3. Failed top order batsmens: The best men we had in the top order failed repeatedly. Murali vijay, Yuvraj, Gambhir failed to deliver and the absense of Viru was clearly felt.

  • POSTED BY Prasobh.C on | May 13, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    The problem I felt was with Dhoni. I must say this because he have his own friends circle and he likes to keep in touch with them always. It includes players like Yuvi, Jadeja, Bajji and almost all the members in chennai team. Even if they didn't perform well, Dhoni will take care of it. He also wants some names which he don't want to stitch into the playing eleven. Those unfortunate guys includes Irfan Pathan, Praveen kumar, Rohit Sharma etc. Even if they play well in 10 matches, they won't get chance if the fails to deliver once.This needs to be changed. The prime importance of selecting the playing eleven should be given to the coach along with the selectors. Also Dhoni needs to be a little more aggressive as well. He may be known as "Mr. Cool" but this has to be changed and to correct his co-players if they make any mistakes just like Sachin did in IPL (don't forget the fact that he is known to be the coolest man in cricket).

  • POSTED BY aryaan on | May 13, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    i think following r the reasons for the indian teams dissapointing campaign at the t20 world cup

    1. tired team 2. ipl is a overload. 3. short of practice 4. ipl is not an ideal practice. 5. this is 2nd time we lose sehwag of ipl injury 6. cricketers are paying more attention & working hard for ipl than the world tournament events like t20 world cup or one day world cup . 7. everbody looking at the money they have earned from ipl now why they need to play 4 india . 8. not having a quality fast bowling & spin attack only harbhajan manage some respect 9. having failed in last edition in england because of short pitch bowling bouncers india done nothing to counter it in whole year 10. india need bowlers with 140 - 150 kph to counter fire with fire & they have only 120 - 130 kph that break no bone what india should do 1. india should invest in youth 2. india need 4 to 5 fast bowlers who can consistently bowl between 140 -150 or 160 for years

  • POSTED BY asadkum on | May 13, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA.. I agree with Kumble's comments........Bowling department was awful.... We missed Irfan P... By the way all the players were looking tired in fielding and batting too...Gambir's running between the wicket.........I think some of the players were not 100% fit. India needs some good pace attack and for that need to prepare some fast/bouncy pitches.... I will not blame IPL since 9 of 11 Sri Lankan's players also played IPL..

  • POSTED BY cric-kaka on | May 13, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Kumble is spot on with his analysis. Of course one can say hindsight is perfect. There were signs of bad form and fitness for many players like Yuvi, Zaheer and Praveen kumar. In addition, there was no hunger in the senior players like Gambhir, Bhajji, Yuvi to win this tournament. They got big pay checks from IPL and didn't seem to need this championship.

    Going back to the selection of the team, I agree that a seam bowling all rounder would have complemented much better than two spinning all rounders. We have almost entire team who can be part timer such as Yuvi, Raina, Rohit who can throw a few overs as they did in IPL. India won 1st T20 cup because of young, ready to prove and hungry players. They even had to earn their livelihood from cricket. Now with IPL that is gone forever. Let's just enjoy IPL show till lasts.

    Only thing I have to say to Kumble is that you are a great cricketer and India could use a genuine cricketer in selection and other aspects of the game.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 14:38 GMT

    Selection of the team was poor.Robin Uttappa should be given ahead of Yousuf pathan as he was in his form of life. Why does the selectors ignore players like Rahul Dravid and sachin Tendulkar who can really tackle against Bouncers really well. If srilanka can play Sanath at an age of 40 why couldnt India play them. Irfan pathan was good choice instead of going for Ravindra Jadeja.Right blend of youngsters and Senior player could given India a chance.

  • POSTED BY Dr.D on | May 13, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    WHAT DO INDIAN PLAYERS NEED TO DO TO WIN ICC TOURNAMENTS? 1. Specialized fitness training to build muscle mass, this will give them the confidence that they so desperately need. A Player who is fit is intimidating for the opposing team, example Shane Watson, Gibbs, etc 2. Specialized training on fielding, this means mandatory fielding training for everyone even for the self proclaimed superstars. 3. Apply Andrew Symonds Rule, No partying the night before the game, even if you consider yourself the next Mr. Bollywood 4. DO NOT PRODUCE FAST BOUNCY PITCHES IN INDIA AT THIS TIME, DO IT AFTER THE WORLD CUP, IT IS TOO BIG OF AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE INDIAN PLAYERS TO MAKE IN 10 MONTHS. IN FACT PITCHES SHOULD BE MADE TO THE BENEFIT OF INDIAN PLAYERS. QUESTION SHOULD BE ASKED WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A BOUNCER OTHER THAN ATTEMPTING TO INJURE THE BATSMEN. IT'S LIKE THROWING A WIDE BALL, YOU CAN NEVER HIT THE WICKETS WITH THE BOUNCER, IT SHOULD BE BANNED ALTOGETHER.

  • POSTED BY funsuk on | May 13, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    Well said sir....Rather than shreekant and his team of old nuts...people like kumle, V.prasad, Ganguly should be the selectors,as they know players better than dose oldies,as they are now outdated and should retire!

    I am completely agree with this statement. They should kick out old Selectors like Shreekant and involve players like Kumble, Ganguly and fast bolwer like Prasad and Shreenath as they know more about advance cricket than these oldies.

  • POSTED BY knowledge_eater on | May 13, 2010, 14:18 GMT

    Remember Harsha Bhogle's first pick for Indian XI .. which included Irfan RP Mishra .. people were taking skin out of Harsha's point at that time .. hahaha I said RP and Irfan were needed because of the Pace in WI. India won against SA because it was St.Lucia and Thanks to The man in form Raina. Two big matches in Barbados .. I even thought what if Ishant was in form and bowling at this pitch .. the Ishant who ran over Australia in Aust. And Barbados pitch is like backyard of AUs. Of course they were going to run roller on india. Same with Taylor and Kemar Roach .. they were un-playable. And who was unplayable from Indian Bowling line-up ?? Harbhajan Singh who usually does exceptionally well in bouncy pitches. Dhoni will never complain about the players he has given to work with, because he is going to lose the respect from that team member. Dhoni is very smart leader, he is learning quicker than expected. Thank you Kumble for speaking out, I am tired of hearing India's lack of pace

  • POSTED BY mukkulm on | May 13, 2010, 14:03 GMT

    The less discussed about India's abysmal performance the better it is.1) In India's opening match against Afghanistan they lost two early wickets & same was the scenario against South Africa. This should have indicated the red alert signal for the Indian think thank team. But no heed was paid for it. 2)Time and again we have failed to face bouncers & rising deliveries. The Aussies & the Windies both capitalized on this weakness of ours & pinned us down. Result, India lost both their matches. I fail to fathom what remedial measures has the Indian think tank for this problem. According to me we need to iron out this problem for once & for all or get a batsmens capable of playing such deliveries. 3)The greatest blunder on part of the selectors that led to India's downfall was wrong selection of team for The T20 WC. I agian fail to fathom that why weren't in form players like Robin Utthapa, Ambatti Rayudu, Manoj Tiwari & Saurabh Tiwari selected after their improved performances in the IPL

  • POSTED BY spinkingKK on | May 13, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Well said Kumble. However, what he didn't mention is the team composition. You do not need 8 batsmen in T20 matches. India was wasting the batting of Harbhajan and Zaheer. These guys are capable of batting like any other players in T20. So, by using Rohit Sharma at 8 and making him do what a tailender could have done better (except for that match against Australia), it was a waste of resources. India, as Kumble said, were being negative all the time. Moreover, if there are less batsmen, the guys at the top of the order will show some responsibitlity and clearly understand their role. This was the reason why India won the first worldcup. I believe, you can pack your side with full of bowlers and can have a decent run in T20. Same way, you can pack your team with batsmen in Test matches and have a decent run in Test matches (Just get the draws and occassional win when the opponents gets tired). By the way, please include Uthappa in T20's. He is a made for T20 player.

  • POSTED BY CricketingStargazer on | May 13, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Playing for your country is less motivating than playing for money? If that is true, the future for international cricket is bleak indeed.

  • POSTED BY Lavengro_Kid on | May 13, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    I think we are all trying to read into this fiasco from individual perspective. Stand back from this debacle and you'll see the answer is rather obvious. It is simply a matter of club/franchise over country.

    IPL offers more than just pure cash rewards. Participation in IPL offers a competitive playing atomosphere, where player camaradrie is evident , and where a different ( overseas ) captain offers innovation in leading the team . All this is NOT present in the indian team camp or else why would the likes of Ojha,Uthappa et al would remain at home and watch the house burn down in a blaze of shameful mediocrity.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 13:49 GMT

    Agree with Kumble.But I feel sorry for Sreeshanth for not being considered .He had performed well in West indies and was the part of the team which won the world cup even upto the last ball with immense confidence and courage which is lacking in many players now!

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 13:47 GMT

    Guys, stop looking at individuals and blame them or praise them as the case maybe. We did not show any body language/committment, that we are in WI to win, especially in the super eight. By that time fatigue and party hang-overs were all done and dusted- lame excuses ! KP flew back to be with his wife and kid and I am looking forward to his performance tonite.

    It is good to take advice from Seniors like Anil/Saurav/Sachin on the technical issues of the game - but as I wrote earlier games are won by good Management/policies. Look at Jose Murinhio, Sir Alex Ferguson, names to wish for in the Cricket world !!

  • POSTED BY plmx on | May 13, 2010, 13:38 GMT

    Kumble's assertion..."Indian players could have slackened a bit following the IPL, where the pressure of performing for franchises is quite intense"....if true, is a sad reflection of the near complete commercialisation of cricket in India, where it appears that playing for these bollywood IPL owners require more intensity than playing for the national flag!

  • POSTED BY Monishjoshy on | May 13, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    Playing in India and elsewhere is different. In India pitches were made for entertainment- curators make Indian pitches very much batsman friendly- the ultimate result will be this- India can win any matches in India but not elsewhere- We consider that our batsmen are highly talented, considering fast ballers are not talented and useful- In India a bowler can be a better bowler if he uses his brains well while bowling- tactics is to disguise the batsmen- In foreign pitches, the bowlers who has bounce and swing will get into rhythm- Bowlers like Sreesanth, R.P Singh, Munaf Patel and Ishant Sharma is useless in batsman friendly Indian pitches but handy in foreign pitches where swing and bounce play a major role- remember in first world cup even though we had no big names, we were able to grab the world cup title, and bowlers like R.P singh and Sreesanth played a major role....But the biggest blunder in the selection this time is the omission of Robin Uttappa, Kohli and Irfan Pathan......

  • POSTED BY Shri82 on | May 13, 2010, 13:25 GMT

    I totally agree with these comments from one of India's Great Player & Captain. Give the chance to those player who are performing. Why were Irfan Pathan and Robin Uttapa dropped? and why was Saurab Tiwary not in the side? Yuvi could have been dropped, he was struggling in the IPL - No one should be made to feel that his place in the team is granted.... Bowling needs more variety and fielding should get the attension.... Piyush chawla's place should have been with Pragyan Ojha or even Ashwin was a better choice.... Over all the Team Combination was not a winning one....

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    Bashing IPL is really the wrong way to look at this issue. A lot of Sri Lankan players participated in the IPL and they turned out better for it. Especially I think Malinga and Mahela got back into form due to the match practice they got.

    In my opinion its time for Indian selectors to look closely at their selection of bowlers as suggested by Kumble. Its not acceptable to say, "We just don't have good bowlers". I've seen plenty of top class Indian bowlers showing great promise and vanishing into thin air.

  • POSTED BY harooo on | May 13, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    scrap SRIKANTH, his thinking is OLD BCCI SHOULD SACK HIM FROM his position (selector) Appoint Anil Kumble for his place with Dada Ganguly

    they know what present sitiuation in cricket

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    Kumble has brought out the cat from the hat... This clearly shows the priorities of our cricketers esp Dhoni and his stubborn attitude. His becoming of larger than the game has costed india dearly. Hope things are learnt fast and sense prevails in both the team selection and players' committment.

  • POSTED BY Retalio on | May 13, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    Come on, Guys! winning and losing is a part of the game. Now forget it. India is still on the top rankings. Finger cross for 50 world cup. Agree kumble... dats da reason. Need to learn a lot. Don't blame IPL. I think since IPl start its giving our players a great confidence and we are doing very well in other formats.

  • POSTED BY Raju_Iyer on | May 13, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    Well, well, well, hindsight does give everyone 20-20 vision doesn't it? Which expert criticised the team selection before they left for the tournament? There are a limited number of players you can select for a tour, so it will always appear to be unkind for a few. As for the IPL, let us not be hypocrites. Who can deny that money is not more important than anything else? The basic fact is other teams played better cricket in this format on the day and we lost. Don't forget how miserably Australia fared in previous editions, even losing to Zimbabwe! Beaten yes, but disgraced, certainly not, we did beat South Africa and lost to Sri Lanka only on the last ball. Great to see a young team going to Zimbabwe and the seniors being rested. Keep the faith my countryment, we did not become #1 in Tests by fluke and even in T20 our time will come again. Jai Hind!

  • POSTED BY CRIMAN on | May 13, 2010, 13:04 GMT

    This column is not only of an experienced cricketer's findings but also the essence that needed for Team India. Kumble should have uttered this before the semis and that might have brought some goods. To be honest Srikkanth should nominate Kumble in his place and go without sticking further.

  • POSTED BY beeps on | May 13, 2010, 13:03 GMT

    The problem of our players are that they get"money for jam!" Far too much money is being paid to them in relation to the results they achieve on a long term basis. Their contracts should be monetarily based mainly on performance and not mere appearance for the country. It has to be realised that their dismal performances reflect on the prestige of our country. Compare Dhoni with Vishy Anand, for example. The latter has won four world titles but is way behind Dhoni in earnings. Need to rationalise.

  • POSTED BY queries on | May 13, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    According to me few IPL players are not fit for world 20-20,They only play wel in IPL, like Yousuf pathan will play wel in IPL that too against DC but in world 20-20 he failed same case with him in previous world 20-20. Ohja who took most no of wickets was not there in world 20-20 same with utthapa and ashwin . I think yuvaraj should be rested and should be played more no of ranjis to get back to national team.jadeja is a waste package many times he lets the game go away. Dhoni captaincy is substandard these days, in Lanka game why didn't he sent rohit sharma who is in form before yuvaraj and pathan

  • POSTED BY TariQ_P on | May 13, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    Im just not sure of one thing!.......where is Pragyan Ojha?.....he is da best spinner for India in T20!!........but where is he?.......

  • POSTED BY Vijay_Patriot on | May 13, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    IPL has nothing to do with the INDIAN performance. The champs of Indian side donot know how to play....they can only act in crazy advertisments and nothing else....though the best performer in this tournament was Yovaraj Sing ...

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    I absolutely agree with what Kumble's observation is. Being a lay man who has played cricket in his childhood even we can think of what our mr cool (Dhoni) cann't. I really appreciate Kumble's tactics of cricket. Kumble should now immediately replace K.Srikant and Dhoni should also be replaced by Gambhir.

  • POSTED BY rahul9450 on | May 13, 2010, 12:49 GMT

    IN GANGULY CAPTAINCY ERA IN FIRST TWO, WE HAVE SEEN PLAYERS LIKE ZAHEER, YUVRAJ, HARBHAJAN, SEHWAG, IRFAN ETC WHO ARE WELL KNOWN TO BE MATCH WINNERS AT ANY CONDITIONS BUT WHEN WE DHONI TERM STARTED, NONE NEWCOMER MADE STRONG BEILEF TO FANS, COUNTRY THAT THEY CAN BE NEXT GENERATION WINNERS. THATS CAPTAINCY MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GANGULY & DHONI. WORST BOWLER R.P. SINGH GIVEN CHANCE DUE TO DHONI BECOZ OF HIS FRIENDSHIP WHY???????????????????????? WHEN SACHIN,DRAVID,LAXMAN,SEHWAG WILL RETIRE INDIA CANT WIN TEST MATCH AGAINST STRONG OPPONENTS. THE NEW ARE THINKING THAT THEY ARE MAKING RUNS, THINK ALL ARE PERFORMING AGAINST ASIAN SIDES & IN SUBCONTINENT.IN DHONI`S CAPTAINCY OYU CAN SEE HE IS GIVING BOWLING TO HARBHAJAN, RAINA, YUVRAJ, PATHAN, JADEJA. WHY JADEJA & PATHAN IS PLAYING AS THEY HAVE IPL LIMITATIONS. AT AGE OF 38 IF KUMBLE HAVE POTENTIAL IN BOWL & FIELD WHY DONT OTHERS.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    What has happened to Ravi Shastri? Have we lost the cricket-smart, honest commentator and critic? He is suggesting that by performing in T20s, players will put pressure on test (and ODI) players. How many of 2007 World Twenty20 winners made their way into ODIs, leave alone test cricket? What's their performance in even first class cricket? On the other hand young players (like under-21 or under-23) must be banned from IPL and other domestic T20 tournaments. It should also be a condition that they achieve (or play) something minimum in first class game before they can earn an IPL contract. We need to go back to roots so players develop properly and then we might have a chance. Really disappointed to read what Shastri had to offer after all his wisdom and experience.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 12:40 GMT

    Another person related to ipl, trying to make money and supporting while playing in it. the truth is indian players look tired physically and mentally same hapened with south africans. shame anil kumble

  • POSTED BY amirshafa007 on | May 13, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    asssalam o aliakum me amir shafa from pakistan i feel that kumble is absultly right india should made supporting wickts in indian premier league and thy need some bowling allrounder like that irfan pathan why dhoni dn't like him why BCCI not punish to yuvi he is not performing like a team member and harbajan is totaly disapointed his fans he nt take any singal wicket in world t20 but i feel IPL is major cause for india losing in last two world t20 ipl is not a quality cricket its only fun plz if BCCI want to save indian cricket plz make good and supporting wickets in IPL

  • POSTED BY Subra on | May 13, 2010, 12:27 GMT

    There was just ONE absentee who could have made the difference - Viru.

    He played in the firstT20, INdia became champions.

    He did not play in the 2nd and 3rd editions - India didn't even make the semis.

    We need Viru!

    Siva from Singapore

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    Kumble is my choice for chief of selectors!!! get rid of Srikkanth...

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    To be fair .... they won the match against SA - which is a good team - on the same WI bouncy pitch.... They lost the intense second part of the match.. thats it .. (at least to my belief).. during first two matches (2nd round) they opted to field and they were neither intense in their bowling nor in the fielding .... lead to collapse .... Look at the balls they bowled to Gayle .....

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    Well said sir....Rather than shreekant and his team of old nuts...people like kumle, V.prasad, Ganguly should be the selectors,as they know players better than dose oldies,as they are now outdated and should retire!

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | May 13, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    You can always talk after the walk. Now that they are walked away, everybody tends to find a thousend faults in everything. (1) India doesn't have bowlers, and thats a major factor, period. Even after having a sea of experience in twenty20 matches in IPL, even indian spinners are substandard. You mention yousef, but what has Harbjan Singh acheived, How many wickets did he get. If he is supposed to be a world class spinner then he should have been at top of the list for bowlers taking most wickets. But he is at bottom. (2) in T20 one should go with form and not by big names. May be Yuvi couldn't be excluded but Dhoni should have batted before Yuvi knowing the form Yuvi was coming in to the WC with. I had wished through out the tournament that Dhoni will come at 3. (4) BCCI, just like other subcontinental boards is destroying it all by not preparing some fast wickets in the country. Even IPL wickets should be supporting wickets and not just desserts.

  • POSTED BY loggerfloodles on | May 13, 2010, 11:20 GMT

    I'm more interested In Shastri's quotes... All of which seem to be implying that those who perform well in the IPL ought to instantly be given entry into the Indian side and promote the idea of a longer and more intense IPL season... not a conflict of interest, Im sure

  • POSTED BY starsagitarian on | May 13, 2010, 11:12 GMT

    I sympathise with Dhoni... !! He is more or less a gameboy character who fights in whichever condition he is provided with... and when the player holding the control looses, the on screen hero shows a dejected face... !! In 2007 he had resources who were not tired... most of them were rookies, also pride of playing for the light blue was beyond anything they could have ever imagined... ! today blue is dark and quiet costly but the heart inside is no longer willing to wish for glory while the dark blue is on... !! all credit to the reds, purples and yellows of franchise cricket...! sooner or later things will go out of hand and BCCI will realize what a mess they made of the things... these signs are ominous especially with the 50 over world cup just 9 months away... !! Maybe the old warriors will bow out in glory with Sachin helping india win a world cup... but imagine talking about dedication, honour and pride for the blue uniform after he hangs out his boots... !! fruit for thought !!

  • POSTED BY gracegift on | May 13, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    yes 20-20 involves lots of luck , but i think this current batch lacks discipline and commitment. money, flashy cars seems to be their motivation rather than country. there are players who wake up at midday on a match day. IPL has taken out the desire to play for the country. get a couple of recently retired internationals to join the ranji teams, prepare good wickets (like mohali, gangotri glades, chinnaswamy etc), concentrate more on the longer version than IPL.

  • POSTED BY itisme on | May 13, 2010, 11:05 GMT

    thank you very much Jumbo for being bang on target. you said it right. the players were more concerned when playing for their franchises because otherwise they will be thrown out and lose the hefty purse. but they forge that playing for the country is not just about money, it also involves pride. if you only care about money then this is what happens.

  • POSTED BY murlee50 on | May 13, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    While i have a lot of regard for Kumble, where were all these experts when the team was selected? The only criticism of team selection then was that we had left out Robin and Virat. Its easy to be smart on hindsight but i dont think these worthies can play quick stuff either! When Dhoni was doing well, every wicket, evey victory was attributed to great captaincy and tactics. He couldnt have lost it in one series! Though Dhoni did not blame the IPL outright, it definitely is the cause for our loss. The very same thing happened last year! We just have to look at the EPL to realize the damage it can do to national aspirations. While the club teams play great football, the England team has nothing to show in terms of results.

  • POSTED BY khmayecha on | May 13, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    I think the IPL schedule was absolutely wrong timed. IPL is no way a pre world cup preparation since the team is mixed like indian bhel puri and the quality of matches are dependent on the instructions of the betting syndicate. There are also possibility of serious injuries before the world cup. Secondly India must grade their players I,II & III. Just like only four international players can be in the IPL playing XI, in the same way one team can only have only 1 top grade player in the playing XI, 3 medium grade and rest from grade III. This will allow enough compulsory rest to the top grade players as well as give the upcoming grade III players valuable experience from very earlystage to rub shoulders with international players.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    IPL was definitely the core reason for Indian debacle! those who ignore that are fools because players are human and they take the toll of extensive physical engagement for more than 4 weeks of non stop cricket

  • POSTED BY Harnoor_Lamba on | May 13, 2010, 10:36 GMT

    The IPL has to be scrapped! Not only it is acclimatisin d foreign players wid d Indian pitches but also inducin false confidnce in the indian players. d players lackd intensity in WC as they were drained by d IPL..jus take 4 n eg, i still remembr yuvraj's reactn aftr takin hussey's catch in d inaugural WC 07.. He ws pumped nd so ws d team. Compare it to his reactn wen he took dilshan's catch in dis WC.. He showed no emotions nd he hardly seemed interested... I wont blame Dhoni for the debacle since he ws one of d few players (like bhajji, nehra, raina, yusuf to n extent) who truly tried his best..d blame should go to BCCI, yuvraj nd jadeja... inspite of d fact dat india has tremndous potential, BCCI has been unable to groom even 1 pacer who bowls at 155kmph. also they shud prepare atleast a couple of bouncy tracks in ind. Yuvi has tremendous amt of talent bt he jst seems so disinterestd. He lacks motivation to perform. Jdeja did it wid d bat in Eng nd he has done it wid d ball dis tym.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | May 13, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    Selection of Murali Vijay and Jadeja after the big loss to Ausis was the big blunder by Dhoni. Dinesh Karthik is far more confident as an opener and Vinay Kumar was the right choice ahead of a spinner. Also, Yuvi and Usuf Pathan seems to a burden for the team.

  • POSTED BY RogerC on | May 13, 2010, 10:27 GMT

    The timing of IPL and World Cup are too close and India paid the price. The Indian players spent 7 hectic weeks in IPL in a horrible weather and then went straight to World Cup. The rest of the teams were playing fresh legs. Indian players can't complain like the Aussies or English players and get away with it, so they silently suffer. I hope the BCCI would take notice after seeing the results of this and previous World Cup T20 performances.

  • POSTED BY rtom on | May 13, 2010, 10:24 GMT

    hehe... Anil Kumble after so many years of experience playing for country speaks simple common sense !! way to go AnilKumble. Perhaps, its time you come back from retirement and tell all these so called " young guns" of the team how to win matches !! Last year 20-20 world cup also had exactly same issues with the pathetic indian team.. short pitch stuff !! Why they did not tackel that problem !! Time to reconsider our classic players like Dravid and Laxman back in the team !! World cup is fast approaching...

  • POSTED BY DRNANDAN on | May 13, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    3-0 whitewash in the super 8 for 2 successive years...shame on team india...i think it is mental fatigue from the captain dhoni which is rsponsible...he played as if he wants to go home instead going to semis when he promoted him self in the last match...he gave batting to opponents in barbados where chasing is difficult...selected spinners on a bouncy pacy pitch...some body must take over from dhoni at least in ipl just free him from some tensions ...

  • POSTED BY ListenToMe on | May 13, 2010, 10:18 GMT

    excellent analysis from Kumble. I have nothing more to say. Whatever he said just explains the reason for India's loss.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 10:17 GMT

    same point i dont get. why pick vijay when you got uthapa. yuvraj was a waste. and why the hell irfan pathan wasn't there when he can bat like a specialist.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    Any one who questions cricketing wisdom of Anil Kumble is a fool and he doesn't understand what Anil did for the country at highest level by giving more than 100 pc every time.

  • POSTED BY gerardpereira20 on | May 13, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    Anil has always played like a lion for India. Who can forget him bowling to Lara with a wired jaw and in intense pain. Perhaps you need people like him as head of team management. He not only was a great cricketer but has a clinical and unculttered mind.He is also ruthless enough to kick out the deadwood. Anybody failing to meet his high standards and work ethic would find themselves on the outside looking in. He is well respected by cricketers the world over and would serve to counter the big egos in the Indian team.

  • POSTED BY dpkhbk on | May 13, 2010, 9:58 GMT

    lot of people have not even read the whole page above and said negative things about kumbles comments.kumble is not using the ipl as an excuse for the indian team.he has rightly pointed out that most of the indian batsmen are not good players of short pitched bowling and has asked the selectors to pick those players like karthik who if not able to score runs off such stuff can atleast handle it.gambhir couldnt even handle the short stuff .thats what kumble has said.and he also pointed out at the lack of a good allrounder.first read the page and then comment . dont jump at every opportunity to sort of attack indian players.kumble is a far better commentator as far as i have seen in the past few months than the rest of the rubbish from india and we all know who they are

  • POSTED BY crocker on | May 13, 2010, 9:54 GMT

    Indians carried the momentum of IPL (Cricket & Parties included) to beat Afganistan & South Africa inspite of hectic travelling. Then, during a long break, they must have party-ed hard and forgot cricket. Hence subsequent loss in all matches. Thanks to IPL, they won two matches. Long live IPL.

  • POSTED BY deepakjm on | May 13, 2010, 9:54 GMT

    Cricket in India need some thinking brains at the higher level. People like Ravi shastri and Anil kumble should be given job to shuffle the things.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    In every sport/game there is a winner and a loser, the game is played in the mind and then executed on the field by 11 capable men. There is and never be a shortage of cricketing talent (the same players performed only ten days earlier), there was definetly a lack of plan and focus. Blaming the IPL is a poor execuse, half the Australian team, English team and SrinLankan team members also contributed in IPL - but they are all in the semis !!

    Lets go back to the drawing board and ensure we give our men mental strength !!!

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | May 13, 2010, 9:47 GMT

    Agreed with Kublem the mindset is very important, always think positive and aggressive just like current Aussies,80s W.indies and late 80s and early 90s Pakistan's team

  • POSTED BY KJButt on | May 13, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    Most of the Sout Asian cricket teams, especially India, lack genuine fast bowlers. By genuine fast bowler I mean that who can bowl at 90+ miles per hour. A fast bowler only with that much speed can intimidate and make any impression on batsmen. Slow and docile pitches discourage the fast bowlers and as a result genuine fast bowlers are seldom produced. I don't think we have a fast bowler who can consistantly bowl at 90+ speed. So what our Boards need, in addition to US$ from franchises, to prepare green top and bouncy wickets for our fast bowlers so that we can produce quality fast bowlers.

  • POSTED BY use_it on | May 13, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    selectors mistake,players & team management combine failure none used the tactics well.INDIAN selectors should think a lot B4 selecting a world class team thats fit to face any team[no under estimation here].skipper and coach should think to play well and win not only to just play well. inclusion of ROBIN,ISHANT,UMESH,IRFAN,SUMAN,MITHUN,RAYADU and DINESH opening in all games would hav been better

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 9:37 GMT

    come on guys give Dhoni a break-he is indias best captain to date-he has led India to victories in Australia,NewZealand Srilanka-also Uthappa was given a chance previously -he is not consistent enough.BCCI should not schdule Ipl so late so that we have only 5 days to world cup-are they more interested in money or results???

  • POSTED BY Aboofiras_al on | May 13, 2010, 9:34 GMT

    I agree with Kumble.it wasn't a good choice both Jadeja & Yousuf Pathan in playing XI while Raina and Yuvraj can bowl spin.Irfan Pathan Should have been picked in the squad in place of R.Jadeja.Dhoni would have gone with 3 seamers in heavy attack bouncy pitch.When Praveen Kumar got Injured, couldn't replace him by Vinay Kumar.He had a bit of lack of confidence in Vinay Kumar.So why he was selected in 15man squad.

  • POSTED BY CricketMaan on | May 13, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    Dear Anil, you are Legend and most of the times you speak sense, just like what you spoke about Mithun,Irfan or even Kartik..Question is are you ready to take the bulls by its horns, are you available to be the coach or a selector..We need someone with credentials, quality and stealth for our Selection committee, I guess if you become the chairman, there is no way the Board will tell you 'No you cannot speak to the media or explain the selection of a team' I bet you. Come and save us

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    yes in selecting the players we made lot of mistake.. Robin uttappa who can play good shots was not there also irfan pathan the alllrounder.. what anil kumble told is exactly correct... In team selection we dont have a proper way. anyway total loss for india this time nothing from barbados Anyway we must take odi world cup with sachin tendulkar that is india's biggest dream

  • POSTED BY anil80 on | May 13, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    Anil Kumble is absolutely right in whatever he said. Indian cricket needs more men like him.

    we need lot of changes, some of them are as follows:

    1.Just have three selectors, all should have played minimum 25 tests 2.Captain and coach should have a say in selection 3.provide better facilities for players for practice 4.reduce meaningless tournaments 5.take care of bowlers dont kill them through overuse 6. selection should be based on merit , team balance,frormat of the game 7.bring in professional approach to the administration of the game like Cricket Australia 8.Bring strict rules for players like no parties during the season 9.arrange more tours for junior teams to australia, south africa,england 10.Bring more men who respect and love the game into the setup.

    Indian cricket is full of talent and potential, it jus that it should be given the right direction and managed professionally.May Indian cricket change for good :), i would love to see Anil kumble as the chairman of selector

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:58 GMT

    Oh right, playing in some domestic competition is far more intense than playing for your own country. I think the fact that all Indian players had tummy problems after eating West Indian food which is a better excuse for their performance than Kumble's.

  • POSTED BY Arrow011 on | May 13, 2010, 8:55 GMT

    Kumble was next in commitment after Sachin for playing for the country. Even now these stalwarts want to play more for India than play in IPL, it is a shame that Dhoni & his 20-20 boys are more for money than for playing for the country. It is time all these 20-20 players are criticised like Sachin was criticised when India came back after 2007 50 over world cup, only then they will realise or else they will go for IPL only.

    We need an overhaul of 20-20 players perhaps include Rahul Dravid in future, even if he does not score well, he will keep reminding the youngsters how important is playing for country over IPL. Shame for these youngsters who want money for everything. Boot out Yuvraj Singh, for his irresponsible scores despite playing international cricket for 10+ years.

  • POSTED BY Rydham on | May 13, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    When everybody is saying that Irfan and Uthappa are missing in the team then seriously selectors will have to think !! You can not opt every time players from Tamilnadu only since the chief is from that state ... !!! See the wasted talent like Vijay ... He played only three good innings in IPL and straight away and he was been offered the T20 cap and that to ignoring completely player like Uthappa who not only finished so many matches for RCB but also built the inning and made a foundation of win !! Vijay is a good player but he needs to be nurtured more in 50 overs format first. Uthappa is an established player which he proved. Second point is regarding playing with 8 batsmen was a nonsense. As Ganguly rightly said to one of the news channel that if 7 batsmen can not win the match for you then what the hell will the 8th batsman do ?? and that to with 8-10 balls to spare ?? History is meant for not to repeat the same mistakes but I think Dhoni is a poor student of History !!

  • POSTED BY parabasis on | May 13, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    or maybe india weren't in their comfort zone in the west indies, maybe thats why they didn't play the short-pitched deliveries very well - they weren't comfortable. i mean honestly, what lengths will the indian commentariat go to absolve the team of their deficiencies.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:27 GMT

    Are you serious? Playing for your national side is less pressure than playing for franchise?

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:25 GMT

    i think Anil Kumble is bang on......if IPL performance would have taken into consideration players like Sidhart Trivedi,R Ashwin,Pragyan Ohja and Uthapa should have been there. Believe it s a collective failure from the management and the team. May be this is high time that the BCCI bosses look into this more seriously and address this issue, instead of targeting Lalit modi. I feel there should be some kind of bowling camp set by BCCI and identify ppl fromt the grass routes, so that we dont have shortage of bowlers, and all rounders.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:23 GMT

    Agree on all counts here . Anil has solid pints

  • POSTED BY ryiyer on | May 13, 2010, 8:21 GMT

    Well Said Jumbo, India lost a charismatic leader like you and Sourav, who not only just speaks and expects things to happen rather make things happen. God save India's Pride from Dhoni and Kris Srikkanth

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    Great observation from Jumbo!!! Team was ready to come homw after the WI loss!!1

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    What Kumble wrote does make a lot of sense

  • POSTED BY PiyushD on | May 13, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    Everybody seems to be asking the same question, can the selectors answer, why is Irfan Pathan ignored when we do not have better allrounding options coming up we need guys like Irfan Pathan and not Ravindra Jadeja, given his talent in batting he is must in team atleast in small format of game, there is some sort of Politics that keeping him out, it is surely not just cricketing reasons.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    Anil Kumble is spot on with his assesment. While our media is sensationalizing Dhoni's comments on IPL Parties and travelling fatigue, it misses other important points. Our players looked unfit, Ghambir, Zaheer and Yuvraj in particular. Dhoni's field strategy was perplexing, why did the team management go with only 2 medium pacers for all the games. I still think Dhoni is the best captain we have, I guess he messed up his strategies big time this tournament and hopefully will learn from this. I know Irfan has lost pace etc etc but he is not even in the reckoning for India 'A' tours. He was not even in the probables list of 30 for the world cup. He is not that bad a player. What kind of message are we sending to players like Irfan and RP.

    Finally, what is the chairman of Indian selectors doing in the Chennai dugout. Even if he is not partial, it sure looks that way now. In the past, we lost brilliant players to regional favoritism (real or imagined), lets not repeat those mistakes.

  • POSTED BY Paul-in-Finland on | May 13, 2010, 8:04 GMT

    Playing for a franchise more intense than play for your country...come on what a joke, what a poor excuse. I could see the laziness in the Indian team - for example the final game against Sri Lanka : Indian should have won - but due to lazy running between the wicket by Gambhir , he at least twice lazed runs when it should have been three and the TV replays clearly show did not even ground his bat. There are and extra 2 runs India should have had. How many other batsman in India would have run there hearts out for their country ? Poor excuse Kumble poor excuse, when you think money driven IPL in more intense than a World Cup..shame on you. Or really I should be saying Great , I hope India keep thinking that way...it will allow the Aussie to Reign over all formates of the game ....Thanks Anil keep up the good work as Indian Cricket Head Motivator !!!

  • POSTED BY chandana1997 on | May 13, 2010, 7:59 GMT

    These are the repercussions of IPl.Our Srilankan senior players got the Test series cancelled against England.IPL has made cricketers think money is their god.IPL has made cricketers greedy for money.Dear India you shall reap as you saw

    Chandana.

  • POSTED BY KunKu on | May 13, 2010, 7:58 GMT

    I think Kumble is bang on target on this one. Remember what Dhoni said after winning IPL? Something to the effect of "We owe it to the franchise to win because they pay us so much!" hmm.....

  • POSTED BY CricketPissek on | May 13, 2010, 7:51 GMT

    kumble's insight makes one point very clear. Indian cricket is only motivated by money. much has been said about india and money, but it is very sad when a country who is so proud of its nationalism, isn't motivated by representing the country! sounds like all talk to me, and when money talks, no one is deaf.

  • POSTED BY HemantKaliwada on | May 13, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    well i enjoyed IPL more than what WT20 is offering, no it doesnt hv anything to do with India losing.

  • POSTED BY vinodkt on | May 13, 2010, 7:37 GMT

    while this post moterm will go on (normal isn't it, every time our team doesn't perform) however we the die hard fans should be used to it by now. till the time guys like jadeja, rp, sreesanth and the likes .. aim to play for india and till the time we don't do anything about dead pitches and till the time bcci continues to treat this game as just a money making business, these things will go on. actually it's been a pleasant surprise that we have been more consistent in test and odi recently. we need to change the system where we have selectors from each zone and make it a more democractic process where guys who perform consistently are picked at the right time and given a decent run in the team..till that time lets enjoy the good times when team performs and lets not get too disappointed when they dont...good luck for next year world cup where they can hope to perform better on the sub continent pitches..

  • POSTED BY ashy16in_ on | May 13, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    The Indian team would have reached the semi finals if they had shown even half the intensity and competitiveness that Kumble used to show in his playing days.

  • POSTED BY GautamKrishnan on | May 13, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    Hi I fully endorse what Anil Bhai has written.Just one thing we can learn from him -his 100% commitment at all times.This was lacking in the Indian team I feel and second the lack of understanding of the pitch conditions.We missed Sehwag here .The T20 format is kind of cruel at times so we can look forward to the one dayers and the tests. As they say "Sucess has many fathers bit failure has few"

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    TOTALLY AGREE WITH KUMBLE.

  • POSTED BY agprakash_recw on | May 13, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    As a true fan of Indian team, I would like to suggest few things to BCCI. We have got enough playeres to choose from but the real problem is with the system. These playeres must get enough exposure to playing in foreign conditions. Allow the younger players to tour outside the subcontinent and make them play in the alien pitches. Only then the quality of the talent pool will improve. It's high time we should invested in preparing quality pitches in India itself. IPL played in India favours the batsman and also there are not enough quality bowlers in each every side where a batsman can target easy bowlers. So dont rely much on IPL for fresh talents. Improve the domestic system. Let the younger players prove their worth and let them get selected in the Indian team purely on merit. For gods sake please dont allow IPL to be conducted before the World T20 tournament. Let our players play with a fresh mind. Country comes first to the franchisee.Players must realize this and play with honour.

  • POSTED BY koi1 on | May 13, 2010, 7:24 GMT

    quite an unbelievable statement by Kumble and gives an insight into the mindset. if the pressure of franchise owners is more than the expectations of more than a billions of their fellow Indians then there is something really wrong. it might make sense to Kumble but doesn't make any sense to me. i look forward to reading what the Indian public has to say about this.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 7:17 GMT

    I completely Agree with Anil Kumply, though im a Sri Lankan and a strong Srilankan fan! India is the only country who have more talented players but they always missed out in selecting the right players!

    they really missed out Irfan and Uttappa... they are more useful than any others in the team for this foirmat

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 7:04 GMT

    it is a curse for india for their crazy attitudes.they have misjudged with pakistani players in IPL .they have insulted bangladesh's cricket by badly commenting(shewagh).india has no lackness in cricket but they have to improve their behave.otherwise to survive will be tough for them in cricket.

  • POSTED BY ManishJadav on | May 13, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Perfectly said Mr.Anil..

  • POSTED BY CricketRealist77 on | May 13, 2010, 6:45 GMT

    Why does India have a South African, Gary Kirsten as Coach-South Africa dont know how to win big tournaments and India are now going down the same path under him. Anil Kumble and Ravi Shastri know Indian cricket better than anyone and are world class thinkers and have smart cricket brains surely India can spend a bit of their fortune on enticing them to coach the national side?

  • POSTED BY Messyinamess on | May 13, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    Maybe we can ponder over the combinations, make a post tournament analysis, assess what went wrong, but the fact of the matter is that we lost that too pathetically. India was the only team that did not win any game in the super eights. Just goes to show the standard of cricket and the level of commitment they had for the event. Unlike the Australians where every team member has to prove himself on the field consistently be it a new comer or a regular, Indians are selected based on past records irrespective of his current form. Wonder what the selectors go about at the selection committee meetings?

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    BCCI should try to prepare players who can perform out of India. Most of the Indian teams' records are on their home ground, even SRT. IPL is also a stand to groom players only to perform on their home grounds. BCCI should do one thing: 'just request ICC to held all international tournaments in India so as Team India can perform well to keep their fans happy'.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    Well..really..sometimes all we, as fans, like to see is an effort..a bloody sincere one at that! and we always saw that from this man-anil kumble!!no matter what the situation...even when the target was a 100 from 50 over..we saw this man come and bowl with a look on his face that said we can still win..we dont see that anymore in the present team(read nehras fielding)!!!!!i think captain cool has taken the name too seriously.he jus remains cool n mum in every situation, even when they play pathetic cricket!.its high time someone sets his backside on fire... and anil kumble--wish we had more of ur kind!

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | May 13, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Anil kumble is one of the most sensible voices in the indian game today. He is also known to speak his voice and he can do so cause he doesnt play for india anymore. What he says makes lots of sense. Sreekanth needs to take lot of blame along with dhoni. It was sreekanth who flooded the side with so calles spining all rounders but as a paid selectors it was his duty to knw tht ind ll b playing 2 games from super 8 in barbados. As per dhoni it was baffling to c his lack of faith in vinay kumar. And u dont drop zaheer who is head above shoulders in indian fast bowlers. Something physicaly was nto right with zaheer and gambhir. In gambhirs case it was apparent. Players need to take some responsibility and make way for others but system does allow them to play on reputation as is a case with yuvraj and Y pathan. I would love to c mallyas reaction if he came to knw any player from his side was not honest with his physical fitness. Dhoni & Srikanth owe millions some answers and apologies.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:09 GMT

    I totally agree with Anil sir here, we need to pick players on form and not by their IPL reputation. It's surprising to see the team picked for Zimbabwe. Also the thing he said about the inability of Indian batsmen to play the rising ball was absolutely spot on. I feel in the next world cup India will have to include Laxman sir and Dravid sir to teach these youngsters how to play the short pitched stuff.

  • POSTED BY AakashM on | May 13, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    a new side of the story, but i cannot disagree with this at all! All these guys wants play in a diff passion altogether at IPL - something which was not visible in the world cup. This in a way is a shame as well.

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  • POSTED BY AakashM on | May 13, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    a new side of the story, but i cannot disagree with this at all! All these guys wants play in a diff passion altogether at IPL - something which was not visible in the world cup. This in a way is a shame as well.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:09 GMT

    I totally agree with Anil sir here, we need to pick players on form and not by their IPL reputation. It's surprising to see the team picked for Zimbabwe. Also the thing he said about the inability of Indian batsmen to play the rising ball was absolutely spot on. I feel in the next world cup India will have to include Laxman sir and Dravid sir to teach these youngsters how to play the short pitched stuff.

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | May 13, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Anil kumble is one of the most sensible voices in the indian game today. He is also known to speak his voice and he can do so cause he doesnt play for india anymore. What he says makes lots of sense. Sreekanth needs to take lot of blame along with dhoni. It was sreekanth who flooded the side with so calles spining all rounders but as a paid selectors it was his duty to knw tht ind ll b playing 2 games from super 8 in barbados. As per dhoni it was baffling to c his lack of faith in vinay kumar. And u dont drop zaheer who is head above shoulders in indian fast bowlers. Something physicaly was nto right with zaheer and gambhir. In gambhirs case it was apparent. Players need to take some responsibility and make way for others but system does allow them to play on reputation as is a case with yuvraj and Y pathan. I would love to c mallyas reaction if he came to knw any player from his side was not honest with his physical fitness. Dhoni & Srikanth owe millions some answers and apologies.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    Well..really..sometimes all we, as fans, like to see is an effort..a bloody sincere one at that! and we always saw that from this man-anil kumble!!no matter what the situation...even when the target was a 100 from 50 over..we saw this man come and bowl with a look on his face that said we can still win..we dont see that anymore in the present team(read nehras fielding)!!!!!i think captain cool has taken the name too seriously.he jus remains cool n mum in every situation, even when they play pathetic cricket!.its high time someone sets his backside on fire... and anil kumble--wish we had more of ur kind!

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    BCCI should try to prepare players who can perform out of India. Most of the Indian teams' records are on their home ground, even SRT. IPL is also a stand to groom players only to perform on their home grounds. BCCI should do one thing: 'just request ICC to held all international tournaments in India so as Team India can perform well to keep their fans happy'.

  • POSTED BY Messyinamess on | May 13, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    Maybe we can ponder over the combinations, make a post tournament analysis, assess what went wrong, but the fact of the matter is that we lost that too pathetically. India was the only team that did not win any game in the super eights. Just goes to show the standard of cricket and the level of commitment they had for the event. Unlike the Australians where every team member has to prove himself on the field consistently be it a new comer or a regular, Indians are selected based on past records irrespective of his current form. Wonder what the selectors go about at the selection committee meetings?

  • POSTED BY CricketRealist77 on | May 13, 2010, 6:45 GMT

    Why does India have a South African, Gary Kirsten as Coach-South Africa dont know how to win big tournaments and India are now going down the same path under him. Anil Kumble and Ravi Shastri know Indian cricket better than anyone and are world class thinkers and have smart cricket brains surely India can spend a bit of their fortune on enticing them to coach the national side?

  • POSTED BY ManishJadav on | May 13, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Perfectly said Mr.Anil..

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 7:04 GMT

    it is a curse for india for their crazy attitudes.they have misjudged with pakistani players in IPL .they have insulted bangladesh's cricket by badly commenting(shewagh).india has no lackness in cricket but they have to improve their behave.otherwise to survive will be tough for them in cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | May 13, 2010, 7:17 GMT

    I completely Agree with Anil Kumply, though im a Sri Lankan and a strong Srilankan fan! India is the only country who have more talented players but they always missed out in selecting the right players!

    they really missed out Irfan and Uttappa... they are more useful than any others in the team for this foirmat