Zimbabwe v South Africa, 2nd ODI, Bulawayo August 19, 2014

Zimbabwe suffer another big defeat

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South Africa 257 (du Plessis 55, Utseya 2-39) beat Zimbabwe 196 (Williams 55, McLaren 3-21) by 61 runs
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Not even Zimbabwe's most successful performance in the field against South Africa in 15 years could change the inevitable. Despite bowling their big brothers out for the first time since the 1999 World Cup, and just the third time in their 34-ODI history, Zimbabwe could not avoid a series defeat.

After stemming South Africa's speedy start and punctuating their progress by plucking through their middle and lower order, Zimbabwe gave themselves the best chance of levelling the series and then squandered it. Their batting proved brittle with only Sean Williams and the tail mounting any resistance. The rest engineered their own downfall against a disciplined but not overly dangerous South African attack. 

Zimbabwe would have known there were no demons in the pitch when they watched South Africa bat. Apart from the usual sluggishness and a small amount of turn, South Africa found runs with nothing more than old-fashioned digging in and that it was possible to play with relative freedom in parts. 

Quinton de Kock breezed to a sprightly 38, helped by Brian Vitori's struggles to find a strangling line as he made his return from an ankle niggle, and became the join fastest to 1000 ODI runs. De Kock shares the record with Jonathan Trott, who also reached the milestone in 21 innings. 

De Kock only added one run to the landmark figure before becoming the second of three quick wickets, as Zimbabwe wrested control of the innings. Both he and Hashim Amla fell to John Nyumbu and AB de Villiers was run out freakishly after thinking he had paddled the ball past wicketkeeper Richmond Mutumbami, when in fact it had stopped at the wicketkeeper's feet. 

South Africa lost three wickets for 13 in the space of 26 deliveries to land Faf du Plessis in a familiar rebuilding role. With JP Duminy, du Plessis negotiated Zimbabwe spinners, Sikandar Raza included, with care. For seven overs they could not find the boundary and had to be content with 26 runs in ones and twos before Duminy was bowled around his legs. 

David Miller failed to take advantage of the more than 20 overs he had in front of him until the latter stages of his innings, when he was the key protagonist in South Africa's most profitable over. Luke Jongwe was taken for 18 runs in the penultimate over of the Powerplay, a period in which South Africa scored 43 runs but lost both du Plessis and Miller. 

Du Plessis was their only half-centurion, proof that watchfulness can go further than all-out aggression on occasion. His enterprising innings meant that by the time South Africa entered the final fifth of their innings they were in almost exactly the same position as they were in during the first ODI, at least in runs terms. On Sunday, South Africa had been 208 for 1. On Tuesday, they were 206 for 6.

The wickets were testament to Elton Chigumbura's more creative captaincy - he rotated bowlers with more thought and set better fields - and the spinners' stranglehold. But South Africa's lower middle order was still capable of mounting a surge. Wayne Parnell and Kyle Abbott put on 41 runs for the eighth wicket to take the score past 250 and leave the contest well-balanced at the halfway stage.

Zimbabwe would have been pleased with their last 10-over squeeze of 51 for 4, until their own first 12 were complete. As was the case in the first ODI, Zimbabwe lost the match in the space of 22 overs when the chase was crippled in its infancy. 

Mutumbami was dropped on 3 by de Villiers at second slip but added just nine more before being trapped lbw by an Aaron Phangiso arm ball. Hamilton Masakadza left a gap between bat and pad, which Parnell snuck through with a good-length ball, and Raza left a Ryan McLaren ball that angled into him. 

At 26 for 3, Brendan Taylor was considered Zimbabwe's last hope but he disappointed again when he hit Duminy straight to Miller at long-on. Williams held together the middle order but found few allies as McLaren and Parnell, who picked up his 50th ODI wicket when Chigumbura top-edged a short ball that got big on him to mid-on, sliced through. 

The margin of defeat was cut by a stubborn ninth-wicket stand of 41 in 5.3 overs between Neville Madziva and Nyumbu, who thrilled his home crowd with his shot-making, and lusty blows from Vitori, who took 20 runs off Duminy's last over. That will come as scant consolation for Zimbabwe. They were mostly bossed by a South African side that has both a trophy and a cupboard full of reserve bowlers with a game to go before this series is officially over.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Greatest_Game on August 20, 2014, 14:17 GMT

    @ Marktc, Excellent observations about Faf and Abbot.

    I completely agree. The couch critics who live to bash the flavour of the week really have no understanding of the game. The the validity of your points is illustrated by the fact that Faf made the most runs, & Abbott conceded the least, & scored 23 too. In ODI's, runs win matches. If the margin of victory were 10 runs, who would be responsible for the win? Faf, Abbott, and to slightly lesser degree, McLaren & Tahir.

    How people ignore the fact that AB dropped a sitter off Abbott is explained only by ignorance or malice. Abbot bowled tight lines, pinned batsmen down, & ratcheted up pressure. He really has been unlucky compared to Parnell who sprays the ball all over the place & picks up wickets off poor shots by batsmen desperate to score when they cannot take runs off Abbott or McLaten, another good bowler.

    To those other commenters - yes, this was not a BIG DEFEAT. A big defeat was India's capitulation to Eng.

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:52 GMT

    Firdose Moonda articles rock!!!

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:43 GMT

    This wasnt a big defeat.. Zim actually did alrite..

  • Marktc on August 20, 2014, 5:54 GMT

    Two points...Faf prefers to bat at three, so let's see how he goes with a long run at three. As for the anchor role, this was the perfect game to show how important it is to have somebody who can hold things together. 50 overs is a long time....and if everybody came out to play flashy and aggressive shots, the entire team would be out by 30 overs. Also, if Faf played flashy and went out, his anti-fan club would bash him for that as well. Second point..Abbott did not take wickets, but bowled brilliantly. Sadly most people will just only on the wickets taken column, but it is usually more to to it than that.

  • Sexysteven on August 20, 2014, 3:55 GMT

    To me 61 runs in a odi for the zimbos isn't Abig defeat I thought they prob would be beating by more so to me that's adecent performance by the zimbos as good as they could prob hope for in my view

  • Greatest_Game on August 20, 2014, 0:19 GMT

    @ SripriyaReddy claims "To say he was anchoring the innings is just an excuse by Faf for batting slowly."

    Rubbish. That is just an excuse to bash Faf. Today he held the innings together while batsmen failed around him, from 1/47 to 5/165. He scored the most runs for SA. WHO ELSE IN THE TEAM DID BETTER? Who else held the innings together - no one. Who stayed around to build a platform for scoring at the end of the innings? Only Faf. Before du Plessis was dismissed, Miller scored 13 off 31 balls while Faf scored at a run a ball! Miller consumed 35 balls before he got going, but he's a hero I suppose?

    SA's top order fell, but Faf kept the innings alive, setting up Miller, Parnell & Abbott to freely hit out & score a total of 98 off the tiring bowling. Hash, QdK, AB, Duminy left SA hanging.

    Give credit where credit is due. Partnerships build runs, & Faf 's partnerships took SA from 47 to 169. He did the job SA NEEDED - not the flash, but the hard graft. Hard graft wins matches.

  • on August 19, 2014, 23:04 GMT

    Abbot isn't getting wickets, but he isn't going for runs easily either. He's keeping the pressure up and allowing the other bowlers to take wickets due to that pressure. I remember that saying where bowlers bowl in partnerships. Though I do hope they give some of the players that missed out a shot at the international stage.

  • on August 19, 2014, 21:45 GMT

    It is Zimbabwe! Terrible team with every ounce of karma against them being played by a team that should not be playing them but has agreed to, IMHO, due to their own checkered past. Of course SA thrashed them.... the just result would have been an annoying draw in every match. Stop playing sport Zimbabwe... you are not a real democracy.

  • Dhutugemunu on August 19, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Faf is stuck in the Test Cricket mentality. Somebody should let him know that this is limited over cricket.

  • on August 19, 2014, 21:15 GMT

    Not too surprised about zim? if bowling performs well, batting fails and vice versa. Given that our players are average in both depts, its better to have 8 average batsmen and 3 bowlers so that at leat we post a good total amd leave it for the other team to bat well. Williams has proved to be a reliable batsman whi can bowl better than a specialist bowler if he gets his lines ok. Just my thoughts. We cant afford to have less than 7 average batters.

  • Greatest_Game on August 20, 2014, 14:17 GMT

    @ Marktc, Excellent observations about Faf and Abbot.

    I completely agree. The couch critics who live to bash the flavour of the week really have no understanding of the game. The the validity of your points is illustrated by the fact that Faf made the most runs, & Abbott conceded the least, & scored 23 too. In ODI's, runs win matches. If the margin of victory were 10 runs, who would be responsible for the win? Faf, Abbott, and to slightly lesser degree, McLaren & Tahir.

    How people ignore the fact that AB dropped a sitter off Abbott is explained only by ignorance or malice. Abbot bowled tight lines, pinned batsmen down, & ratcheted up pressure. He really has been unlucky compared to Parnell who sprays the ball all over the place & picks up wickets off poor shots by batsmen desperate to score when they cannot take runs off Abbott or McLaten, another good bowler.

    To those other commenters - yes, this was not a BIG DEFEAT. A big defeat was India's capitulation to Eng.

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:52 GMT

    Firdose Moonda articles rock!!!

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:43 GMT

    This wasnt a big defeat.. Zim actually did alrite..

  • Marktc on August 20, 2014, 5:54 GMT

    Two points...Faf prefers to bat at three, so let's see how he goes with a long run at three. As for the anchor role, this was the perfect game to show how important it is to have somebody who can hold things together. 50 overs is a long time....and if everybody came out to play flashy and aggressive shots, the entire team would be out by 30 overs. Also, if Faf played flashy and went out, his anti-fan club would bash him for that as well. Second point..Abbott did not take wickets, but bowled brilliantly. Sadly most people will just only on the wickets taken column, but it is usually more to to it than that.

  • Sexysteven on August 20, 2014, 3:55 GMT

    To me 61 runs in a odi for the zimbos isn't Abig defeat I thought they prob would be beating by more so to me that's adecent performance by the zimbos as good as they could prob hope for in my view

  • Greatest_Game on August 20, 2014, 0:19 GMT

    @ SripriyaReddy claims "To say he was anchoring the innings is just an excuse by Faf for batting slowly."

    Rubbish. That is just an excuse to bash Faf. Today he held the innings together while batsmen failed around him, from 1/47 to 5/165. He scored the most runs for SA. WHO ELSE IN THE TEAM DID BETTER? Who else held the innings together - no one. Who stayed around to build a platform for scoring at the end of the innings? Only Faf. Before du Plessis was dismissed, Miller scored 13 off 31 balls while Faf scored at a run a ball! Miller consumed 35 balls before he got going, but he's a hero I suppose?

    SA's top order fell, but Faf kept the innings alive, setting up Miller, Parnell & Abbott to freely hit out & score a total of 98 off the tiring bowling. Hash, QdK, AB, Duminy left SA hanging.

    Give credit where credit is due. Partnerships build runs, & Faf 's partnerships took SA from 47 to 169. He did the job SA NEEDED - not the flash, but the hard graft. Hard graft wins matches.

  • on August 19, 2014, 23:04 GMT

    Abbot isn't getting wickets, but he isn't going for runs easily either. He's keeping the pressure up and allowing the other bowlers to take wickets due to that pressure. I remember that saying where bowlers bowl in partnerships. Though I do hope they give some of the players that missed out a shot at the international stage.

  • on August 19, 2014, 21:45 GMT

    It is Zimbabwe! Terrible team with every ounce of karma against them being played by a team that should not be playing them but has agreed to, IMHO, due to their own checkered past. Of course SA thrashed them.... the just result would have been an annoying draw in every match. Stop playing sport Zimbabwe... you are not a real democracy.

  • Dhutugemunu on August 19, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Faf is stuck in the Test Cricket mentality. Somebody should let him know that this is limited over cricket.

  • on August 19, 2014, 21:15 GMT

    Not too surprised about zim? if bowling performs well, batting fails and vice versa. Given that our players are average in both depts, its better to have 8 average batsmen and 3 bowlers so that at leat we post a good total amd leave it for the other team to bat well. Williams has proved to be a reliable batsman whi can bowl better than a specialist bowler if he gets his lines ok. Just my thoughts. We cant afford to have less than 7 average batters.

  • legfinedeep on August 19, 2014, 19:10 GMT

    @Greatest_Game: very interesting story dude. I never knew that about Steyn, always assumed that he came through the fancy route like Grey College or something. Tell us more about his story, would love to hear.

  • CricketChat on August 19, 2014, 17:57 GMT

    In the end, the defeat wasn't as big I thought it would be (100+ runs). Must say, Zim batsmen applied much better than vaunted Ind batting lineup against Eng. Zim needs the target about 200-225 against top teams to have any chance.

  • SripriyaReddy on August 19, 2014, 17:53 GMT

    To say he was anchoring the innings is just an excuse by Faf for batting slowly. After facing exactly 149 balls collectively in the 1st & 2nd ODI, he managed to score only 113 runs along with 7 odd boundaries(4's only). What kind of anchoring is this where you only block the ball?

  • RoyRulez on August 19, 2014, 17:52 GMT

    Lot of criticism of Faf here... I was one of the big critics of Faf as well (surprised how he was picked ahead of Miller as a No. 6 batsman) and he had a miserable start to his ODI career... But he has improved over the last year and a half as a batsman (may be his test performances gave him some confidence)... Besides I feel he and Ingram have both suffered due to Kallis' on-again-off-again ODI career and Faf deserves a consistent stint in the team at 4 or 5...

    Having said that, I am eager to to see Rilee get a chance, who better than Zimbabwe to give him a go against!!!

  • Greatest_Game on August 19, 2014, 17:42 GMT

    @ Jamie Moneghan. Trott, KP & Tendo followed the same path: European passports eased them into county cricket, which offered opportunities SA did not, & allowed them lucrative careers. My opinion: they did the right thing for themselves.

    They have 2 things in common: talent & REALLY good & intensive schooling in cricket. SA has state & private schools where sport is a religion. They have fantastic coaching & training facilities, & literally build players. Amla's parents sent him to the school that produced the most SA cricketers: Barry Richards, Lance Klusner, Richard Snell, Hugh Tayfield, Trevor Goddard, Lee Irvine etc. (AND Nick Compton!) Most of SA's players get that schooling.**

    I do believe they should give to the many poverty stricken schools in SA. They were truly privileged: time to pay it back, with interest.

    ** Dale Steyn's small town school had no cricket! His story is of amazing sacrifice & dedication. He came from nowhere. Debuted in boots borrowed from Shaun Pollock!

  • Dhutugemunu on August 19, 2014, 17:29 GMT

    "Zimbabwe suffer another big defeat" Is it a surprise? No. It isn't.

  • ZkAneela on August 19, 2014, 17:23 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa: Completely agree with the point that Faf has terrible stats for that anchor role.But to be honest I am not a huge fan of an anchor role to one certain player as I believe that any batsman even AB should play the anchor role if the situation demands but not a certain player (Faf)..Faf looks to be playing for himself especially in 2nd ODI as He reduces SA total from close to 370 to 309.

  • Vaughanographic on August 19, 2014, 16:50 GMT

    Controversial, but I would rest AB for the next game (Rossouw at 4). I think Abbott and Parnell are going great so would keep them in to keep their momentum. Maybe De Lange in for Mclaren (he has played a lot of games of late) and Shezi in for Phangiso, to give everyone exposure. Not really sure about de Lange in one day games, he makes Mornantau Hayward (remember him!) seem consist at times!

  • SripriyaReddy on August 19, 2014, 16:49 GMT

    Now that we've won the series, I'd really like to see AB at 3, At least for one game. Let Amla rest & give a try with Rossouw & De Kock opening. Faf, JP & Miller can come in at 4,5 & 6 respectively. Abbott should be given another chance cuz he wasn't really 'wicketless' had it not been for AB's drop catch at 2nd slip.

  • gimme-a-greentop on August 19, 2014, 16:27 GMT

    @ZCFOutkast...you make it sound like Abbott had two shockers in a row - his economy rate for the 2 games combined is 2.8 per over, which is really tight bowling (AB also dropped a catch off his bowling). That said, I would also like to see Shezi, de Lange and Hendriks get a game, with either AB or Rossouw at 3.

  • theju on August 19, 2014, 16:26 GMT

    @ZCFOutkast : Pls dont judge abott too early just bcz he doesnt got wickets. He bowled beautifully in both inngs and bad luck that he didnt get wickets. even AB spilled his chance.

  • Gareth_Bain on August 19, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    The strangest selections for me re Zimbabwe are Jongwe and Madziva. To me with Chigumbura already there it makes more sense to have a proper batsman and a proper seamer than two bit players...

  • ZCFOutkast on August 19, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Abbott wicketless for second match in a row. Surely Shezi must come in now. A lot of batsmen out of form/haven't scored runs. If Rossouw is to play one of Amla/Faf is going to have to rest, and the senior man may have to make way so Faf on "form" a bit can build more ahead of the Tri-Series. Parnell won't like it but he may be asked to sit out for Marchant too. I doubt he'll get a game later anyway when the big 3 return.

    A lot about Zimbabwe is disturbing. If Raza replaced Vusi why didn't he open the batting? Why does Hamilton Masakadza as a senior player allow himself to be moved around like this? Why is Mutumbami opening&/or batting above Taylor&Williams?

    On the other hand I'm glad Nyumbu is proving me wrong that he''s good enough for Tests+LOIs. Match exposure is bound to make him even better. What's abundantly clear is than an extra batsman is a must. For that Chigumbura must bowl more.

    Raza, Vusi, Hami, Taylor, Williams, Elton, Richie, Vitori, Utseya, Chatara, Nyumbu/Panyangara

  • on August 19, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    @Tommytucker and Dilly. Cheers for that as like I said I don't know what happened at the grass roots level with those players, as English media basically say that SA neglected them rather than not being good enough or atleast the standard SA were looking for so only really get the version they say.

  • Proteas1992 on August 19, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Are south africa playing poor cricket or has Zimbabwe improved? The results have been very poor from a south african perspective this series.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    @Bongz77 Look I agree, Amla is your ideal anchor in ODI cricket because of his amazing record and performances. But then again, anyone who scores quickly and doesnt get out - could be called an anchor.

    This is the problem I have with Faff wanting to be the Anchor, is his terrible track record which doesn't warrant it. He probably feels it comes with some kind of license to take it easy and leave all the risk up to new batters coming in. This is unfair and creates pressure which leads to panic.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan I will answer your question in part, I am sure Greatest_Game will have a more comprehensive one though.

    KP was an average off-spinner and a lower order batsman when played for his provincial team, the Dolphins. In terms of performance, there was no way of him breaking into the national side - not even a fringe player - not even an afterthought. I think KP made the most of his opportunity when he played country cricket in England. Thats were he must have made the decision to improve his batting and go for an international call up with England. This notion that he was rejected by SA cricket is nonsense, he simply wasn't good enough at the time. So credit to KP for improving himself as a batsman and credit to English county cricket too I guess.

    Similar story with Trott. A solid Western Province batsman, but never a super star or consistent Top run scorer in domestic cricket.

  • Proteas_Supporter on August 19, 2014, 14:07 GMT

    and well done lad Quinton de Kock! A century in the next match please. Hope he plays well in the Tri series too, especially against the Aussies..

  • Bongz77 on August 19, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    @TommyTucker. To me the "anchor" is the player who is going to bat the majority if not last till the very end. Now we all can see that Hashim Amla is more than capable of occupying one end at a strike rate of 90 runs per 100 balls or more. THAT is the modern day "anchor".

  • dillyk on August 19, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan I wanna answer your queries, I played against trott as a school boy, but not peitersen....... as a school boy trott was one of the players that was earmarked as a future star. But he just did not dominate as much for WP at senior level to warrant being in the Proteas picture before he left for Eng.

    Our school cricket is very strong, but i think the best part of our cricket is that club cricket is used as a finishing school. Even though most international players tend to play very little club cricket in SA, i believe it is a vital step that gives players a good foundation, It gives players a chance to test themselves against adults (some professional others amateur) in a harsh environment. Steyn and De Kock both played 1 or 2 seasons premier league cricket (top club league) when they were about 15.

    So as a young player once you have measured yourself against older players of great skill it removes a-lot of doubt in your ability and you know where your weaknesses are

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    @Bongz77. Your team is spot on. I read another article in SA press today interviewing Faff, where he says he wants to play the 'anchor role' in the SA team by batting at 3 in ODIs. This a nonsensical strategy and the phrase 'anchor role' is an excuse for not being able to bat quickly and positively enough - simple as that.

    Our ultra conservative cricket management believe in this anchor role nonsense because of Kallis. Kallis initially struggled to score quickly in ODIs but was difficult to get out, so he hung around and invariably an innings was built - but slowly. This strategy fails in pressure situations in competitions when against stiff opposition because only one of your batsman is attacking the bowling, creating unnecessary pressure.

    Faff has now played almost 50 games without ever scoring a Century, sporting a sub-par average of 28. Rillee Roussow should be there instead, but being best mates with AB has its advantages of course.

  • B.C.G on August 19, 2014, 11:13 GMT

    Drat.Miller or Faf should have stayed till the end.This may be a thriller.

  • ForeverProteas49 on August 19, 2014, 11:11 GMT

    if zim chase this down and that's a huge IF I will eat humble pie, On a beautiful batting pitch they didn't even make 220 let alone 250, This is a slow turner, looking forward to this. PROTEA FIRE

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 11:01 GMT

    I hope we win this 2nd ODI so we get to see Marchant de Lange, Shezi and Rilee Roussouw in the 3rd and final ODI.

  • on August 19, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    @Greatest_Game. Interesting points regarding De Kock as didn't know he'd already made that many runs and regarding the SA system. What is your view on players like Trott and Pieterson especially as do you feel that these two could of pushed for a place within the SA team? Just curious to hear a non English perspective of their situation.

    Also have a question in the Ask Steven section that you might know the answer for too.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    Millers wicket is the worst LBW umpiring decision I have seen in about 6 years. Zimbabwean umpire too!! Shocker.

  • JohnMR on August 19, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    Absolute shocker from the umpire to get rid of Miller. That wasn't even close. Where do they find these amateurs?

  • Greatest_Game on August 19, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    When Quinton de Kock today joined Viv Richards, Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietereen as the joint fastest to 1000 ODI runs, that made three of the four fastest South Africans. In addition, four of the six fastest and five of the top ten fastest are Saffas. Of those five, none of the matches were played in South Africa, and the SA team played in only two of the matches!

    de Kock, Trott, Pietersen, ten Doeschate and Amla were all born, raised & learned their cricket in SA. It says much about the standard of cricket schooling in SA that half of the top ten came up through the SA system. It also says a lot about how highly competitive and difficult it is to make a career in cricket in SA that three of the five chose to play international cricket for other countries.

  • Bongz77 on August 19, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    1.Hash 2. QDK 3. AB 4. Rilee R 5. JP 6. Miller 7. Maclaren 8. Parnel/Hendrcks/Abbot 9. Piedt 10. Steyn 11. Tahir/Morkel

    Unfortunately for Faf i see no place for him in the ODI team. AB should be at 3 no matter the situation. Can you imagine Ponting being dropped down the order after a great start by Gillie and co? The Mighty Hash is our anchor. Having Faf bat like the Kallis of the early 2000's is not going win us a world cup.

  • Chn2 on August 19, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    Good start by Zimbawe. A victory will definitely boost their moral as they are a very good side in shorter format.

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  • Chn2 on August 19, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    Good start by Zimbawe. A victory will definitely boost their moral as they are a very good side in shorter format.

  • Bongz77 on August 19, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    1.Hash 2. QDK 3. AB 4. Rilee R 5. JP 6. Miller 7. Maclaren 8. Parnel/Hendrcks/Abbot 9. Piedt 10. Steyn 11. Tahir/Morkel

    Unfortunately for Faf i see no place for him in the ODI team. AB should be at 3 no matter the situation. Can you imagine Ponting being dropped down the order after a great start by Gillie and co? The Mighty Hash is our anchor. Having Faf bat like the Kallis of the early 2000's is not going win us a world cup.

  • Greatest_Game on August 19, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    When Quinton de Kock today joined Viv Richards, Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietereen as the joint fastest to 1000 ODI runs, that made three of the four fastest South Africans. In addition, four of the six fastest and five of the top ten fastest are Saffas. Of those five, none of the matches were played in South Africa, and the SA team played in only two of the matches!

    de Kock, Trott, Pietersen, ten Doeschate and Amla were all born, raised & learned their cricket in SA. It says much about the standard of cricket schooling in SA that half of the top ten came up through the SA system. It also says a lot about how highly competitive and difficult it is to make a career in cricket in SA that three of the five chose to play international cricket for other countries.

  • JohnMR on August 19, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    Absolute shocker from the umpire to get rid of Miller. That wasn't even close. Where do they find these amateurs?

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    Millers wicket is the worst LBW umpiring decision I have seen in about 6 years. Zimbabwean umpire too!! Shocker.

  • on August 19, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    @Greatest_Game. Interesting points regarding De Kock as didn't know he'd already made that many runs and regarding the SA system. What is your view on players like Trott and Pieterson especially as do you feel that these two could of pushed for a place within the SA team? Just curious to hear a non English perspective of their situation.

    Also have a question in the Ask Steven section that you might know the answer for too.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 11:01 GMT

    I hope we win this 2nd ODI so we get to see Marchant de Lange, Shezi and Rilee Roussouw in the 3rd and final ODI.

  • ForeverProteas49 on August 19, 2014, 11:11 GMT

    if zim chase this down and that's a huge IF I will eat humble pie, On a beautiful batting pitch they didn't even make 220 let alone 250, This is a slow turner, looking forward to this. PROTEA FIRE

  • B.C.G on August 19, 2014, 11:13 GMT

    Drat.Miller or Faf should have stayed till the end.This may be a thriller.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 19, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    @Bongz77. Your team is spot on. I read another article in SA press today interviewing Faff, where he says he wants to play the 'anchor role' in the SA team by batting at 3 in ODIs. This a nonsensical strategy and the phrase 'anchor role' is an excuse for not being able to bat quickly and positively enough - simple as that.

    Our ultra conservative cricket management believe in this anchor role nonsense because of Kallis. Kallis initially struggled to score quickly in ODIs but was difficult to get out, so he hung around and invariably an innings was built - but slowly. This strategy fails in pressure situations in competitions when against stiff opposition because only one of your batsman is attacking the bowling, creating unnecessary pressure.

    Faff has now played almost 50 games without ever scoring a Century, sporting a sub-par average of 28. Rillee Roussow should be there instead, but being best mates with AB has its advantages of course.