Zimbabwe v South Africa, 3rd ODI, Bulawayo August 20, 2014

World Cup audition for South Africa reserves

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Match facts

Thursday, August 21, 2014
Start time 0930 local (0730 GMT)

Big Picture

There are times when a couple of days can make a difference but the ODI series between Zimbabwe and South Africa is an example of how breaks can have no effect.

The first and second matches were near carbon-copies of each other, with the only real difference being the margin of Zimbabwe's defeat. Although their bowling improved, particularly at the death, they made the same mistakes with the bat. Soft dismissals and lapses in concentration led to their unravelling and have left Sean Williams stuck with the tail, twice. Temperament is the missing ingredient but whether that can be found in such a short space of time remains to be seen.

South Africa do not have many areas to tweak despite being bowled out by Zimbabwe's hard-working but limited attack. Hashim Amla earns himself a rest, but the likes of AB de Villiers, JP Duminy and David Miller may want to improve on their returns but for the rest, the final match will simply be more of the same: an opportunity to get match time and with a World Cup looming. There is depth in bowling resources, but with the return of the first-choice trio of Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel and Vernon Philander for the upcoming tri-series, competition for a place in the final XI is still high.

The people to whom this final match might mean most to are the Bulawayo fans. This will be their last sighting of international cricket for at least another 12 months and as the crowds have shown, it is something they treasure watching.

Form guide

(last five completed games, most recent first)

Zimbabwe LLLLW
South Africa WWWLW

In the spotlight

Zimbabwe's top order slumped to 34 for 3 and 45 for 4 in the first two matches and will want to avoid another repeat. They have already changed their opening pair and might shuffle it again with Hamilton Masakadza dropping to No.3 and Sikandar Raza fronting up first. Brendan Taylor will also be under pressure after only 20 runs from two outings.

The strength of South Africa's top order did not allow David Miller to be a factor in the opening match. Miller had similar issues in Sri Lanka and is realising the better the top four get the less time he may have at the crease. He will have to make an impact in short and sharp bursts while finishing an innings. If Miller gets it right, South Africa could mount totals too large for Zimbabwe to scale.

Team news

Zimbabwe are still struggling to find a bowling combination that works and may want to look to one of the Test seamers, if the management feels they have had enough downtime. Tinashe Panyangara or Tendai Chatara could come in for Luke Jongwe or Neville Madziva. They don't have too many options in the batting department besides Timycen Maruma and may have to opt for the same top-order and hope they can produce better results. Legspinner Tafadzwa Kamungoz is also in with a chance to play.

Zimbabwe: (likely) 1 Sikandar Raza, 2 Richmond Mutumbami (wk), 3 Hamilton Masakadza, 4 Brendan Taylor, 5 Sean Williams, 6 Elton Chigumbura (capt), 7 Luke Jongwe/ Tinashe Panyangara 8 Neville Madziva/ Tendai Chatara, 9 John Nyumbu, 10 Prosper Utseya, 11 Brian Vitori

Having won the series, South Africa might indulge in making use of all their reserves. Rilee Rossouw is expected to take Hashim Amla's place at the top of the order. Marchant de Lange and Mthokozisi Shezi could replace Kyle Abbott and one of the spinners respectively.

South Africa: (likely) 1 Rilee Rossouw, 2 Quinton de Kock (wk), 3 Faf du Plessis, 4 JP Duminy, 5 AB de Villiers (capt), 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Wayne Parnell, 9 Kyle Abbott/ Marchant de Lange, 10 Aaron Phangiso, 11 Imran Tahir/ Mthokozisi Shezi

Pitch an conditions

With quick turnaround between matches, the surface is not expected to play too differently to the first two, which were dry and slow. Some turn will be on offer as well but so are runs with proper application. The weather in Bulawayo has warmed up significantly from the first match and is expected to reach 27 degrees on Thursday.

Stats and trivia

  • This is the sixth three-match ODI series between South Africa and Zimbabwe. South Africa have whitewashed Zimbabwe in all of the previous five.

  • Brendan Taylor is the only Zimbabwe batsman among the top 50 in the ODI rankings. He is 24th.

Quotes

"We have to improve on our batting. This is the last chance in the series for all departments to play well. Giving early wickets away is criminal, especially on a wicket that is batting friendly. We will have to re-strategise."

Elton Chigumbura wants more from his top-order in the final match

"We will definitely make a few changes. We came here to win the series and we still want to win the last ODI but we will see about a few changes."

South Africa's time to experiment has arrived as AB de Villiers confirmed

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • on August 21, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Lots of people are putting abott on,but he hasnt done anything spectecular since his 1st test match. One comment said drop philander and put in abott as philander isnt taking wickets,but neithet us abbot. Everyone is also forgetting parnell,the last match man of the match. So bowling there will be steyn, morkel, tahir and parnell or philander with part-timers of jp

  • on August 21, 2014, 7:12 GMT

    south africa is playing a very weak team in preparation for world cup.

  • highveldhillbilly on August 21, 2014, 5:57 GMT

    @ZFCOUTCAST TERRIBLE SQUAD - Seriously, Farhaan? Did you watch him bat in international cricket? I think a 12 year old off spinner would clean him up. He is terrible. Bavuma? The guy has potential but hasn't played international cricket now you want him in the WC? Anyway he's not an ODI batsman, is your plan to have him be designated 12 man for the tournament? Cause that's transformation right? ps: How come Thami isn't in your squad?

  • on August 21, 2014, 3:36 GMT

    INSHA ALLAH ziM best of luck taylor 100 today

  • MeijiMura on August 21, 2014, 0:14 GMT

    The author of this article should realise that Zimbabwe failed in the batting department in the 2nd ODI not the bowling department. Their bowling, with the exception of the inexperienced Jongwe and the part-time Raza, was very good. It was Zimbabwe's batting that let them down. SA can get away with playing two keepers because they are both world-class batsmen in their own right. The same cannot be said of the two keepers in Zimbabwe's team. Taylor needs to be given the gloves with Mutumbani out of the side to be replaced with Sibanda. Sibanda is a hit and miss player but he has too much talent to be ignored and when he comes off he makes a huge difference to the outcome of the match he fires in. I would also drop Raza. He was woeful with the bat and poor with the ball. Malcolm Waller, like Sibanda, is a very talented batsman and a positive strokeplayer. Jongwe should also make way for either Chatara or Panyangara. To say Zimbabwe don't have options with the bat and ball is inaccurate.

  • on August 20, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    South Africa squad for WC (my choice): H Amla, de Kock, AB(c), F plessis, JP, D Millęr, R Rossouw, Dave Jacobs, J Botha, R McClaren, D steyn, M Morkel, K abbot, Mbani, I Tahir.

  • on August 20, 2014, 20:31 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa While generally I appreciate your understanding and comments on SA cricket I found it somewhat off the mark that Amla be replaced from the opening slot. Happily, however, you corrected yourself in your latest comment. Amla-De cock-De Villers-Faf/Rossow/Duminy-Rossow/Duminy-Miller-Mc laren-Parnell/Abbot-Steyn-Tahir-Morkel.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 20, 2014, 19:23 GMT

    Sorry, I forgot to add - AB has gone on record saying that he would like to bat at 3 in ALL formats.

    "Faff will play the Kallis Anchor role and bat at 3..." Well one of them has an average of 45 in ODIs and the other has an average of 28. Lets not kid ourselves here gentlemen....

    1.Amla 2.De Kock 3.AB 4.RILEE 5.Duminy 6.Faff/Miller 7.McLaren 8.Steyn 9.Abbott.10.Morkel 11.Tahir

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 20, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    Why are we trying to re-create a Kallis strategy when he has retired? Why are we trying to turn Faff into the Kallis - when clearly he isnt? Just play your best 6 batsmen best suited for ODI cricket (Faff does not make this list on paper) and be done with it. I am against this 1 batsman attacking and the other batsman 'holding'. Its too predictable for the opposition.

    I think Faff is a great Test batsman. I think people who play well in domestic cricket (Van Zyl, Bavuma, Rossouw) should be rewarded. I think consistent under-achievers, should be dropped. Faff is now 49 ODI matches, 30 years old with an average of 28......for me, that's not good enough to warrant selection. Lets not be blinded by the level of opposition we are currently playing too. Oz will be a sterner tests.

  • on August 20, 2014, 18:08 GMT

    I agree with most of AB team selection. I prefer Abbot over Philander since he can bowl at death and with new ball. Philander is not taking lots of wickets anyway. Tahir is a must for middle overs. Conservative approach hasn't won us a world cup yet, fax should be replaced by an aggressive player like Russow. as it stands Proteas will not be able to chase big totals with players like faf

  • on August 21, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Lots of people are putting abott on,but he hasnt done anything spectecular since his 1st test match. One comment said drop philander and put in abott as philander isnt taking wickets,but neithet us abbot. Everyone is also forgetting parnell,the last match man of the match. So bowling there will be steyn, morkel, tahir and parnell or philander with part-timers of jp

  • on August 21, 2014, 7:12 GMT

    south africa is playing a very weak team in preparation for world cup.

  • highveldhillbilly on August 21, 2014, 5:57 GMT

    @ZFCOUTCAST TERRIBLE SQUAD - Seriously, Farhaan? Did you watch him bat in international cricket? I think a 12 year old off spinner would clean him up. He is terrible. Bavuma? The guy has potential but hasn't played international cricket now you want him in the WC? Anyway he's not an ODI batsman, is your plan to have him be designated 12 man for the tournament? Cause that's transformation right? ps: How come Thami isn't in your squad?

  • on August 21, 2014, 3:36 GMT

    INSHA ALLAH ziM best of luck taylor 100 today

  • MeijiMura on August 21, 2014, 0:14 GMT

    The author of this article should realise that Zimbabwe failed in the batting department in the 2nd ODI not the bowling department. Their bowling, with the exception of the inexperienced Jongwe and the part-time Raza, was very good. It was Zimbabwe's batting that let them down. SA can get away with playing two keepers because they are both world-class batsmen in their own right. The same cannot be said of the two keepers in Zimbabwe's team. Taylor needs to be given the gloves with Mutumbani out of the side to be replaced with Sibanda. Sibanda is a hit and miss player but he has too much talent to be ignored and when he comes off he makes a huge difference to the outcome of the match he fires in. I would also drop Raza. He was woeful with the bat and poor with the ball. Malcolm Waller, like Sibanda, is a very talented batsman and a positive strokeplayer. Jongwe should also make way for either Chatara or Panyangara. To say Zimbabwe don't have options with the bat and ball is inaccurate.

  • on August 20, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    South Africa squad for WC (my choice): H Amla, de Kock, AB(c), F plessis, JP, D Millęr, R Rossouw, Dave Jacobs, J Botha, R McClaren, D steyn, M Morkel, K abbot, Mbani, I Tahir.

  • on August 20, 2014, 20:31 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa While generally I appreciate your understanding and comments on SA cricket I found it somewhat off the mark that Amla be replaced from the opening slot. Happily, however, you corrected yourself in your latest comment. Amla-De cock-De Villers-Faf/Rossow/Duminy-Rossow/Duminy-Miller-Mc laren-Parnell/Abbot-Steyn-Tahir-Morkel.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 20, 2014, 19:23 GMT

    Sorry, I forgot to add - AB has gone on record saying that he would like to bat at 3 in ALL formats.

    "Faff will play the Kallis Anchor role and bat at 3..." Well one of them has an average of 45 in ODIs and the other has an average of 28. Lets not kid ourselves here gentlemen....

    1.Amla 2.De Kock 3.AB 4.RILEE 5.Duminy 6.Faff/Miller 7.McLaren 8.Steyn 9.Abbott.10.Morkel 11.Tahir

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 20, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    Why are we trying to re-create a Kallis strategy when he has retired? Why are we trying to turn Faff into the Kallis - when clearly he isnt? Just play your best 6 batsmen best suited for ODI cricket (Faff does not make this list on paper) and be done with it. I am against this 1 batsman attacking and the other batsman 'holding'. Its too predictable for the opposition.

    I think Faff is a great Test batsman. I think people who play well in domestic cricket (Van Zyl, Bavuma, Rossouw) should be rewarded. I think consistent under-achievers, should be dropped. Faff is now 49 ODI matches, 30 years old with an average of 28......for me, that's not good enough to warrant selection. Lets not be blinded by the level of opposition we are currently playing too. Oz will be a sterner tests.

  • on August 20, 2014, 18:08 GMT

    I agree with most of AB team selection. I prefer Abbot over Philander since he can bowl at death and with new ball. Philander is not taking lots of wickets anyway. Tahir is a must for middle overs. Conservative approach hasn't won us a world cup yet, fax should be replaced by an aggressive player like Russow. as it stands Proteas will not be able to chase big totals with players like faf

  • ZCFOutkast on August 20, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    WC Squad - XI: Amla, QdK(wk), Faf, AB(c), JP, Farhaan, Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Phangiso; RESERVES: Tahir, Bavuma, Rossouw, Parnell

    If Faf who bats like a tortoise plus merely serves to delay the appearance of AB&JP in the middle, as well as Miller who can't consistently buy a run to save his life are both considered ODI XI material, then Farhaan should too! He's proved himself in the Momentum Cup&in touring with the A side, not to mention QdK got 15 pretty consistent ODI innings from debut while he did not. Someone said they expect Elgar to have a break out List A season and get into the WC squad but I think Bavuma will have a better season&make it ahead of him. One century&a couple of 50s should do it.

    Zimbabwe selections should be much easier. XI: Vusi, Raza, Hami, Taylor, Williams, Chigumbura(c), Mutumbami(wk), Vitori, Panyangara, Chatara, Utseya; RESERVES: Nyumbu, Maruma, Shingi, Mawoyo/Kasuza/Kasteni.

  • on August 20, 2014, 17:48 GMT

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  • Proteas1992 on August 20, 2014, 16:26 GMT

    With the recent loss of Kallis and Smith, South Africa needs another world class batsmen to complement AB and Amla. Rilee Roussouw has all the attributes to become that world class top order batsmen to fill the gap left by these greats.

  • NixNixon on August 20, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    2 be honest. Jp is not a number 3. He is a number 6

  • on August 20, 2014, 16:09 GMT

    @Kenneth Borland: I've had the same thoughts about the structure of the team in the past, but I also think Mclaren is way underrated. He is a quality seamer to backup the first choice attack, and more often than not takes a couple of wickets while also much more reliable than Parnell (even though Parnell's left arm seam has it's benefits too). McLaren is also very useful with the bat, not just a slogger.

    At the moment I'm far more concerned with Tahir and Philander's poor form than a No.7 bowling all-rounder that comes to the party more often than not. And please, someone teach Morkel how to bowl yorkers, the short ball is impressive as a surprise delivery, not the default one!

  • on August 20, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    so what i see here its people writing opinions i like some like ABs I really feel every bowler has to have a function to be useful....like tahir and mclaren totally necessary in the middle over for wickets and run rate especially maxwell,dhoni and morgans of the world.......at the death abbot is a must as he is tight and can bowl you yorkers i remember he had the lowest economy in the list a competitions bowls so many yorkers the best we have had for a while....a good opening bowler...we cant go with both steyn and morkel one or the other steyn is better at death and better control as both strike bowlers.....my bowlers will be mclaren,steyn,abbot and tahir...reserves morkel,philinder,marchant and phangiso....that makes 8 and the rest can be batsmen

  • on August 20, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    TommytuckerSaffa last night the coach said that faf are being played there because they want him to grow into the no.3 spot. He also said that they are not stupid and knows when there is a good start they would push AB into that spot and that for now the want him to be successful at 3. They will not push ab to no. 3 for now even if there is a good spot now to give faf all the opportunity to be there.

    I would rather have given JP the no.3 role as he scores well with rotating the strike and when set he can play the big shots as well. That would mean faf has to go unless he can up his strike rate. Hope rilee rossouw are successful and finds his feet quickly so that he can bolster this side.

  • on August 20, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    It makes way more sense to have a bowling all-rounder at 7 than a batting one! If you only have 4 frontline bowlers, then opposition know they have 10 overs that are easy to target ... plus odds are 1 of the frontline 4 might have a bad day as well. That's why McLaren at 7 balances the side perfectly. Reliable for 10 overs, with Duminy to fill in as 6th bowler, plus McLaren iis capable of having a match-winning partnership with an in batsman from the top 6. With the strength of the SA top-order, another frontline batsman at 7 really is a waste.

  • ZCFOutkast on August 20, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    Not that the Proteas will win the cup ... but I'll support this WC Squad - XI: Amla, QdK(wk), Faf, AB(c), JP, Farhaan, Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Phangiso; RESERVES: Tahir, Bavuma, Rossouw, Parnell

    If Faf who bats like a tortoise plus merely serves to delay the appearance of AB&JP in the middle, as well as Miller who can't consistently buy a run to save his life are both considered ODI XI material, then Farhaan should too! He's proved himself in the Momentum Cup&in touring with the A side, not to mention QdK got 15 pretty consistent ODI innings from debut while he did not. Someone said they expect Elgar to have a break out List A season and get into the WC squad but I think Bavuma will have a better season&make it ahead of him. One century&a couple of 50s should do it.

    Zimbabwe selections should be much easier. XI: Vusi, Raza, Hami, Taylor, Williams, Chigumbura(c), Mutumbami(wk), Vitori, Panyangara, Chatara, Utseya; RESERVES: Nyumbu, Maruma, Shingi, Mawoyo/Kasuza/Kasteni.

  • AB_DeVilliers on August 20, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa - loving your post about Faf. He is quite solid, and even though he tends to be a bit slow, he does provide a level of stability. In Oz conditions, there is bound to be a bit of zip with the new ball, so he could be key in providing a good base (typical Kallis role). Needs to bat a tad bit quicker though, so there are probably arguments for and against.

    Will be nice to see what Rilee can contribute, not so much against Zim, but against the Ozzies. Hope he can put some pressure on the current lot so that they improve their consistency as well.

    @NixNixon, I don't really buy the whole racial representation argument. Our springbok team has no Indians, neither does Bafana. So as far as I'm concerned, if we win the world cup, regardless of who's in the team, i'm celebrating for daaaays haha! Taahir definitely has to play, we lack bowlers who can take wickets in the middle order. He is one, and Mclaren is improving.

  • NixNixon on August 20, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    The reason why I drop tahir is due to policital reasons. The SA squad has to represent all races in SA. So its either Tsotsobe or phangiso at 11, if you want a spinner we can include pangiso who is obviously not very good in my opinion. If you want to include Tsotosbe and a spinner we will have to be satisfied with Mclaren at 7. It is as simple as that. My team covers both political requirements and solves the number 7 problem. Otherwise we can drop steyn or morkel for tahir.

  • 2nd_Slip on August 20, 2014, 11:50 GMT

    @NixNixon I also like the squad you have put up but I have to agree with @ SA_Scot, why drop Imran!? Variety is a weapon on its own when it comes to limited overs cricket. And as for the #7 position ,I don't think we need an extra batsmen there considering that David Miller, at six, hasn't even got there chance to build an innings, such has been the success of our top order when we have batted first. If you want someone to add a couple of runs at the end when/if we collapse, Id suggest replacing Lopsy with Parnell.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 20, 2014, 10:58 GMT

    How does Faff warrant the No.3 spot with his is track record so far in ODI cricket? We have two of the worlds best batsman who could bat in this key position instead (Amla & AB). The No.3 role is arguably your most important position as the person coming in needs to keep momentum going and keep pressure on the bowling side. Faff takes a long time to 'get himself in' and in ODIs that means more pressure on everyone else. With an average of 29, he is more likely to get himself 'out' than in.

    I hope Rilee Rousouw does indeed start and open. If he comes off, we could have the following world cup team: 1. Rossouw 2.De Kock 3.Amla 4.AB 5.JP 6. Miller(Faff) 7.McLaren 8.Steyn 9.Parnell 10. Morkel 11. Tahir

  • SurlyCynic on August 20, 2014, 10:31 GMT

    Miller comes in for criticism but he doesn't get too many chances in this batting lineup. Didn't bat in the first game as Faf was 'anchoring' for most of the innings, then in the 2nd game he was starting to fire and got one of the worst LBW decisions I've ever seen. I think we need him in the team though for the sheer 6-hitting power. Even if a target is far off we still have a chance if Miller is there.

    I agree with other comments, McLaren is too high at 7. Ideally we'd have 4 bowlers and then another part-timer at 7 who could share the 5th bowler allocation with Duminy.

  • SA_Scot on August 20, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    @NixNixon

    Hey there. I read your post, and I'd agree, number 7 is a little up in the air. Really like your top 6, looks good. HOWEVER, and this is where I do get angry so forgive me if this sounds tetchy. WHAT are you doing dropping a threatening spinner?!? Just don't tell me *Duminy* will do the spinning, that's just not a rationale answer.

    If you want to get lined up by Australia and any other team that has talented 1-day batsmen, then load your team up with seamers and pay the price. It's easy to see having happened historically, it will happen to South Africa again, and it reminds me of the ultra conservative approach that South African have as a mind-set. I lived there for 15 years, grew up there, it's a National trait! It *is* changing, but slowly...

    Pace pace ... it is just crazy.

    What possible rationalisation could you have for Dropping Tahir from your 1-day team? He may be a liability in tests, but his attacking variety in 1-dayers is a god-send. Why drop?

  • NixNixon on August 20, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    @AB De Villiers - I totally agree with all the points you have made. I think one of the big problems we have with our batting is that we need someone who can bat at 7. I am not saying McLaren should be dropped, but batting wise he is a number 8. Guys like parnell, philander and mclaren is not allrounders, they are bowling allrounders. I wont include either Faf or Philander in my team. THis would be my team:

    1.Amla, 2.De Kock, 3.Rossouw, 4.De Villiers, 5.Miller, 6.JP, 7.?? (a batsman/behardien if it must then), 8.McLaren, 9.Steyn, 10. Morkel, 11 Tsotsobe

  • on August 20, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    I like your squad AB_DeVilliers. Only change I would make is to bring in Abbot for Philander. Abbot is our best bet to bowl well in the death overs.

  • AB_DeVilliers on August 20, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    In terms of our WC Squad - I think 15 are allowed: 1. Amla 2. Qdk 3. Faf 4. AB 5. JP 6. Miller 7. Mclaren 8. Philander 9. Steyn 10. Morkel 11. Taahir 12. Parnell (back-up all-rounder, left-armer) 13. Roussow (back-up batter, i like him, has x-factor) 14. Abbott or De Lange (back-up seamer, Lopsy hasn't performed for too long) 15. Piedt (back-up spinner, we need to re-think Phangiso)

  • AB_DeVilliers on August 20, 2014, 8:30 GMT

    If I look at the probable 11 that will start the first world cup game: Amla, Qdk, Faf, AB, JP, Miller, Mclaren, Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Taahir, I have 3 concerns which we should look at addressing during the next 30 ODIs that we are going to play before the WC:

    1. We haven't chased down a big score in ages. A large percentage of our recent victories have come batting first, and similary, a large percentage of our losses have come chasing decent totals.

    2. Our death bowling is still a problem. Other than Steyn, who can also go for a few, nobody else has the skill to restrict batters (bowling good yorkers is something we never do).

    3. Our lower batting order seems a bit weak. When we are 5 down, can Miller, Mclaren and Philander get us over the line if we still need 80 off 50? Looks like when we are 6 down, the game is pretty much gone. Miller needs to be more consistent too.

  • on August 20, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    South Africans are truly a world class team and I am praying that this time this team will turn around and ABD will take the World Cup.

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:55 GMT

    I am getting tired of seeing people mention Albie Morkel, he is mid 30s, year out of cricket, well past his prime and had a shocking T20 world cup, cost us against India and im for one over Albie Morkel when we have enough hitting and better talent than that washed up hasbeen

  • on August 20, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    Though SA experiment in their line up for the last ODI,it still has got the dangerous middle order that no other team has...With FAF @3,ABD@4,JP @5 and MILLER @6 looks rock solid...If they include Albie Morkel for the next series he can be deadly @ 7 with a bowling option as well...It is a warning sign to all the teams for the upcoming worldcup 2015.... MY Playing XI for worlcup will be...1.Hashim Amla,2.Quinton De Cock.3.Faf DuPlessis,4.AB Devillers,5.JP Duminy,6.David Miller,7.Albie Morkel,8.Dale Steyn,9.Imran Tahir,10.Wayne Parnell,11.Vernon Philander Substitutes...12.Lunwabo Tsosobe,13.Rilee Rossow,14.Morne Morkel,15.Robin Peterson,16.Ryan Mclaren,17.Farhan Behardien(an option)

  • on August 20, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    y is phangisoih the team...jus replace him with DeLange..phangiso only tokk 1 wicket in the last match the rest of the side is fine

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  • on August 20, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    y is phangisoih the team...jus replace him with DeLange..phangiso only tokk 1 wicket in the last match the rest of the side is fine

  • on August 20, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    Though SA experiment in their line up for the last ODI,it still has got the dangerous middle order that no other team has...With FAF @3,ABD@4,JP @5 and MILLER @6 looks rock solid...If they include Albie Morkel for the next series he can be deadly @ 7 with a bowling option as well...It is a warning sign to all the teams for the upcoming worldcup 2015.... MY Playing XI for worlcup will be...1.Hashim Amla,2.Quinton De Cock.3.Faf DuPlessis,4.AB Devillers,5.JP Duminy,6.David Miller,7.Albie Morkel,8.Dale Steyn,9.Imran Tahir,10.Wayne Parnell,11.Vernon Philander Substitutes...12.Lunwabo Tsosobe,13.Rilee Rossow,14.Morne Morkel,15.Robin Peterson,16.Ryan Mclaren,17.Farhan Behardien(an option)

  • on August 20, 2014, 7:55 GMT

    I am getting tired of seeing people mention Albie Morkel, he is mid 30s, year out of cricket, well past his prime and had a shocking T20 world cup, cost us against India and im for one over Albie Morkel when we have enough hitting and better talent than that washed up hasbeen

  • on August 20, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    South Africans are truly a world class team and I am praying that this time this team will turn around and ABD will take the World Cup.

  • AB_DeVilliers on August 20, 2014, 8:30 GMT

    If I look at the probable 11 that will start the first world cup game: Amla, Qdk, Faf, AB, JP, Miller, Mclaren, Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Taahir, I have 3 concerns which we should look at addressing during the next 30 ODIs that we are going to play before the WC:

    1. We haven't chased down a big score in ages. A large percentage of our recent victories have come batting first, and similary, a large percentage of our losses have come chasing decent totals.

    2. Our death bowling is still a problem. Other than Steyn, who can also go for a few, nobody else has the skill to restrict batters (bowling good yorkers is something we never do).

    3. Our lower batting order seems a bit weak. When we are 5 down, can Miller, Mclaren and Philander get us over the line if we still need 80 off 50? Looks like when we are 6 down, the game is pretty much gone. Miller needs to be more consistent too.

  • AB_DeVilliers on August 20, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    In terms of our WC Squad - I think 15 are allowed: 1. Amla 2. Qdk 3. Faf 4. AB 5. JP 6. Miller 7. Mclaren 8. Philander 9. Steyn 10. Morkel 11. Taahir 12. Parnell (back-up all-rounder, left-armer) 13. Roussow (back-up batter, i like him, has x-factor) 14. Abbott or De Lange (back-up seamer, Lopsy hasn't performed for too long) 15. Piedt (back-up spinner, we need to re-think Phangiso)

  • on August 20, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    I like your squad AB_DeVilliers. Only change I would make is to bring in Abbot for Philander. Abbot is our best bet to bowl well in the death overs.

  • NixNixon on August 20, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    @AB De Villiers - I totally agree with all the points you have made. I think one of the big problems we have with our batting is that we need someone who can bat at 7. I am not saying McLaren should be dropped, but batting wise he is a number 8. Guys like parnell, philander and mclaren is not allrounders, they are bowling allrounders. I wont include either Faf or Philander in my team. THis would be my team:

    1.Amla, 2.De Kock, 3.Rossouw, 4.De Villiers, 5.Miller, 6.JP, 7.?? (a batsman/behardien if it must then), 8.McLaren, 9.Steyn, 10. Morkel, 11 Tsotsobe

  • SA_Scot on August 20, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    @NixNixon

    Hey there. I read your post, and I'd agree, number 7 is a little up in the air. Really like your top 6, looks good. HOWEVER, and this is where I do get angry so forgive me if this sounds tetchy. WHAT are you doing dropping a threatening spinner?!? Just don't tell me *Duminy* will do the spinning, that's just not a rationale answer.

    If you want to get lined up by Australia and any other team that has talented 1-day batsmen, then load your team up with seamers and pay the price. It's easy to see having happened historically, it will happen to South Africa again, and it reminds me of the ultra conservative approach that South African have as a mind-set. I lived there for 15 years, grew up there, it's a National trait! It *is* changing, but slowly...

    Pace pace ... it is just crazy.

    What possible rationalisation could you have for Dropping Tahir from your 1-day team? He may be a liability in tests, but his attacking variety in 1-dayers is a god-send. Why drop?

  • SurlyCynic on August 20, 2014, 10:31 GMT

    Miller comes in for criticism but he doesn't get too many chances in this batting lineup. Didn't bat in the first game as Faf was 'anchoring' for most of the innings, then in the 2nd game he was starting to fire and got one of the worst LBW decisions I've ever seen. I think we need him in the team though for the sheer 6-hitting power. Even if a target is far off we still have a chance if Miller is there.

    I agree with other comments, McLaren is too high at 7. Ideally we'd have 4 bowlers and then another part-timer at 7 who could share the 5th bowler allocation with Duminy.