India in Australia 2011-12 January 22, 2012

Prepare 'rank turners' for visiting teams - Gambhir

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Gautam Gambhir has called for "rank turners" when teams visit India after India have lost seven consecutive away Tests on pitches that he reckons had lot of grass on them. He said the real test of a team was to win overseas, and that Indian curators shouldn't hesitate to make it as tough as possible for visiting teams.

"We need to realise that when we go overseas every country prepares wickets to their own strengths," Gambhir said. "So once the other teams come home we need to prepare tracks to our advantage as well. So there should not be a lot of talk when Australia or South Africa or England come home that we should not be preparing turners. I think we should be playing to our strengths, and if we can prepare rank turners, that's where their technique and their temperament will be tested."

Gambhir said there was a lot of movement available to seam bowlers in all of their seven defeats starting from the English summer onwards. "We have seen in last three Tests matches and even in England, there was a lot of grass and that helped their seamers," he said. "Once these people come to India we should not be hesitant in making turners, and that's where we would get to know whether they are mentally strong, and [what happens to] the kind of chit chat do they do when we go overseas and they talk about our techniques.

"That's where they will be tested, and we'll see how good they are against spin bowling. So we shouldn't be hesitant in preparing turners to our advantage, and that has been our strength and if we can do that people should support us rather than saying we should not be preparing turners. We should always be preparing something which is to our advantage."

Gambhir was asked what progress he saw in Peter Siddle's bowling from the time he debuted against India in 2008-09 to now being the leader of the Australian bowling attack. "The only difference is the conditions," Gambhir said. "He made his debut in Mohali. He played really well in that Test series. It's [these are] his own conditions, it's his own backyard. The important thing is once you start doing well in subcontinent, that's when you are rated as a very good bowler.

"He has bowled really well in this series - no doubt about that - he has been their main bowler who has always taken wickets whenever he has got into his spell. The important thing is, how he bowls well in the subcontinent. Here he has bowled well, but let's see what he does in other conditions as well."

That didn't stop Gambhir from praising the Australian bowling unit, whose performance he rated higher than the English bowlers last summer. "When you see the results both have been at par," Gambhir said. "England had a lot of lateral movement, but over here a lot of credit goes to them [the Australian bowlers]. They had a very inexperienced attack. England have far more experience than the Australian fast bowlers. The way they have bowled in this series is tremendous.

"They have never let us off the hook, they have always kept us under pressure though they were playing with just three seamers and a spinner. They kept coming at us, which is important, because there are times in Test cricket where you can get easy runs, especially in middle sessions. A lot of credit has to go to them.

"Even in the middle sessions they kept hitting those areas, and never let us score freely. As we all know Indians are known to score runs freely. Most of our middle order has been boundary hitters. They never let us score those boundaries. Never gave us balls where we can score freely. Especially in that middle session."

COMMENT - A frustrated reaction


Gambhir's comments about the pitches seem to be a combination of many factors. At worst they could be indicative of the defensive attitude of a team that has lost seven away Tests in a row. They can easily be seen as an extension of the response of Ishant Sharma and Virat Kohli to sledging by Australian players about the Indian batsmen's technique and average. You would expect better from a team that wants to be the best in the world.

There also seems to be a lack of awareness that India's recent wins outside the subcontinent have all come on seaming tracks that make it easier for their bowlers to take 20 wickets. Also the pitches in Sydney and Perth were hardly the monsters they are being made out to be.

However, at such times, it is easy to miss the deep-rooted frustration at the kind of pitches the Indian curators have been rolling out over the recent years: slow, low, devoid of life and excitement. The last time India actually got a pitch that turned and bounced was in Kanpur in 2007-08. Otherwise the pitches in India are all designed to last the longest possible distance. Gambhir is also understandably annoyed at how easily the turning tracks are labelled "disgraceful" by the media and the ICC. Sidharth Monga

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY Bilal94 on | January 25, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Even if India prepares dust bowls , I dont expect ENG and AUS to do as bad as India in their respective countries

  • POSTED BY kristee on | January 25, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    Actually it's he , or rather his country, that is rather unscrupulous. Oz could have prepared Bombay04 like pitch at Sydney when they were locked 1-1 in 04. Perth behaved true; it was batters' incompetence. Warner proved it. Nobody would have scored a century at Bombay, in contrast.

  • POSTED BY on | January 25, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    I think team India has played very poorly in both series & this is not the solution. Though we have not played well in England or down under I totally agree with Gambhir.. that we should also exercise the same policy.. whenever any country visits us make them play first game at Dharamshala (cold weather), second at Cochi (super hot & humid) in practice match half of their team will be sick due to extreme weather conditions.. now you ask them to play at Motera.. provide turning track rest all pacers & roll in all spin attack (as OZs did in WACA).. now we will see who is a better team & the visitors will loose all matches with innings margin & match will never go to 4th 5th day..

  • POSTED BY on | January 25, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    I think gambhir is true. Actually it is a matter of great concern. Home conditions never favoured so much. I bet this same indian team will blank australia in india. See how england who beat india 4-0 in their home ground is playing in uae. Now pitches are prepared to their own strength.

  • POSTED BY myNameIsIndia on | January 25, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    To all those who are criticising India's failure in England and Australia.. I agree with them but that is off topic. Ghambir is right. Why should India prepare a bounce and pacy wicket.? You goto Durban, Johannesburg, Perth, Sydney, MCG, Auckland, Wellington or England pitches.. You will never get spinning tracks because that is not the strength of hosts. And nobody say anything about it. Its only India which everyone cares about. Everyone want the pitches to support them but not the hosts. Come to India and face the challenge, We all know you will fail here for sure.. I support for turners, not because India is doing pretty badly right now ( only this year in but not in a last decade or so) But because its the benchmark of Indian tracks..and those who said, india never survived till 4th or 5th day for track to spin.. thats the same case here as well, visiting teams harldy survive in 4th or 5th day and as usual they blame it on Tracks and complains ICC.. Grow UP!!

  • POSTED BY ponnu_KKR on | January 25, 2012, 5:14 GMT

    If you are not confident (or dont know how to play cricket) please dont go to these countries. why you people are going without any preparation?? now, do one thing. go to zimbabve/bangladesh and play some test matches. (even they will also beat you).. SHAME.. SHAME... it is enough for Indian fans...

  • POSTED BY Srijoym on | January 25, 2012, 3:09 GMT

    Pathetic! Sums up the attitude of the Indian players very well. And this from one of the younger ones. Dark days lie ahead.

  • POSTED BY Naren on | January 24, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Even on rank turners, Australia would not perform this poorly. Don't call SCG and Adelaide as green top. Gambhir should be ashamed of his technique rather than asking the kind of pitches to be prepared back home. What would have happened if Cummins, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus and Siddle / Starc all played at WACA.

  • POSTED BY on | January 24, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    India did very well in the last decade overseas but in the last one year they started to struggle in overseas.Even in westIndies, they struggled against weak team even though they won the test series by 1-0.Forget about winning now atleast they should try for draw in adelaide test match.

  • POSTED BY on | January 24, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    So the cat is out of the bag. The statement of gambhir is a testment that player in india do have a say in pitch preparation. such a brazen statement from a player who's not even a captain & in a middle of a tour is shameful. Mohinder amarnath as a commentator used 2 criticise selectors for being lenient towards star players. Its time he act a bit different & show gambhir the exit door.

  • POSTED BY Bilal94 on | January 25, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Even if India prepares dust bowls , I dont expect ENG and AUS to do as bad as India in their respective countries

  • POSTED BY kristee on | January 25, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    Actually it's he , or rather his country, that is rather unscrupulous. Oz could have prepared Bombay04 like pitch at Sydney when they were locked 1-1 in 04. Perth behaved true; it was batters' incompetence. Warner proved it. Nobody would have scored a century at Bombay, in contrast.

  • POSTED BY on | January 25, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    I think team India has played very poorly in both series & this is not the solution. Though we have not played well in England or down under I totally agree with Gambhir.. that we should also exercise the same policy.. whenever any country visits us make them play first game at Dharamshala (cold weather), second at Cochi (super hot & humid) in practice match half of their team will be sick due to extreme weather conditions.. now you ask them to play at Motera.. provide turning track rest all pacers & roll in all spin attack (as OZs did in WACA).. now we will see who is a better team & the visitors will loose all matches with innings margin & match will never go to 4th 5th day..

  • POSTED BY on | January 25, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    I think gambhir is true. Actually it is a matter of great concern. Home conditions never favoured so much. I bet this same indian team will blank australia in india. See how england who beat india 4-0 in their home ground is playing in uae. Now pitches are prepared to their own strength.

  • POSTED BY myNameIsIndia on | January 25, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    To all those who are criticising India's failure in England and Australia.. I agree with them but that is off topic. Ghambir is right. Why should India prepare a bounce and pacy wicket.? You goto Durban, Johannesburg, Perth, Sydney, MCG, Auckland, Wellington or England pitches.. You will never get spinning tracks because that is not the strength of hosts. And nobody say anything about it. Its only India which everyone cares about. Everyone want the pitches to support them but not the hosts. Come to India and face the challenge, We all know you will fail here for sure.. I support for turners, not because India is doing pretty badly right now ( only this year in but not in a last decade or so) But because its the benchmark of Indian tracks..and those who said, india never survived till 4th or 5th day for track to spin.. thats the same case here as well, visiting teams harldy survive in 4th or 5th day and as usual they blame it on Tracks and complains ICC.. Grow UP!!

  • POSTED BY ponnu_KKR on | January 25, 2012, 5:14 GMT

    If you are not confident (or dont know how to play cricket) please dont go to these countries. why you people are going without any preparation?? now, do one thing. go to zimbabve/bangladesh and play some test matches. (even they will also beat you).. SHAME.. SHAME... it is enough for Indian fans...

  • POSTED BY Srijoym on | January 25, 2012, 3:09 GMT

    Pathetic! Sums up the attitude of the Indian players very well. And this from one of the younger ones. Dark days lie ahead.

  • POSTED BY Naren on | January 24, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Even on rank turners, Australia would not perform this poorly. Don't call SCG and Adelaide as green top. Gambhir should be ashamed of his technique rather than asking the kind of pitches to be prepared back home. What would have happened if Cummins, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus and Siddle / Starc all played at WACA.

  • POSTED BY on | January 24, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    India did very well in the last decade overseas but in the last one year they started to struggle in overseas.Even in westIndies, they struggled against weak team even though they won the test series by 1-0.Forget about winning now atleast they should try for draw in adelaide test match.

  • POSTED BY on | January 24, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    So the cat is out of the bag. The statement of gambhir is a testment that player in india do have a say in pitch preparation. such a brazen statement from a player who's not even a captain & in a middle of a tour is shameful. Mohinder amarnath as a commentator used 2 criticise selectors for being lenient towards star players. Its time he act a bit different & show gambhir the exit door.

  • POSTED BY one-eyed-but-keepinitreal on | January 24, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    I, for one, am very glad that we are finally doing what India have done for years. The last two series in Australia we have given the Indians some very flat tracks. Was this the problem with drop-in wickets or a grab at the Indian dollar? Anyway, they have been able to avoid our only fast, bouncy wicket over the kast decade - the GABA. Not so this year, we have finally produced other wickets with pace, bounce, and a little movement. I don't think Australia are that scared on India producing turners' (see last year's Galle test). Even though they lost 2-0 last series in India, they could have won 2-0 (umpiring in the first test, and a great innings by Laxman in the second). As long as they don't produce a win-the-toss-win-the-match wicket which is good for batting for one day and significantly deteriorates from the second like the wicket Clarkey got 6/9 on, that is a poor, rather than a home wicket.

  • POSTED BY Rajdhaniexpress on | January 24, 2012, 7:51 GMT

    Shame on you Gautam Gambhir ,the rest of the team and BCCI . You have let the fans ( some of them travel round the world to support you) down for the last 7 oversaes test matches and appear to feel no remorse. Once again, Shame on you, the lot!!!!

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 24, 2012, 4:12 GMT

    How pathetic. If the BCCI listen to this tripe (probably will), India is doomed to be a poor excuse of a cricket team. The issue is (& has always been), that the best cricket involves ALL types of bowling. This current series hasn't suited the spinners because we have hardly made it to the 4th Day! IF, & only IF, India can force play into the 5th day in Adelaide, they will be able to use the spin & variable bounce nicely. I am all for Indian tracks favouring spinners, but it will be to India's detriment if they can't prepare some pitches with some grass to give the pacers some help. If you all you want to do is play on dustbowls (very rarely do I use that term), how about withdrawing from Test cricket & play IPL 12 mths of the year??? Much rather watch Pakistan or Bangladesh fight than the spineless Indian team who seem to spend all their time complaining rather than training! Grow up Ghambir, big cross next to his name me thinks!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 24, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    That is shameful coming from an Indian Test opener. The wickets he is calling greentops.........the opposition declared their batting in half of those tests cz Indian bowlers could not bowl them out.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_theBestGame on | January 23, 2012, 23:57 GMT

    to all those who cry foul at subcontinent turners and bouncy seeming wickets overseas, why should home team prepare a pitch which suits the opposition? read the blog by Michael Jeh. its 100% dead on the money. the point of different wickets overseas is to see how player adapt in different conditions. what would be the point of all wickets were bouncy and seeming? you'd have aust, SA and eng win overseas because thats their strength. ind lost this series because they didnt' prepare preoperly and didn't adapt. if aust lose in ind next then its aust fault not the pitches. the only time the pitch should be held responsible if it leaks 700+ runs and crawls to a draw! ICC and whoever calls sub continent wickets bad should really think hard.

    and i'm not indian !

  • POSTED BY GravyMon on | January 23, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    - @avas - The track at Dubai was definitely not a turner. The Brits performed more like a #21 team than a #1 team. England might have got lucky if it the track were a turner and Swann might have been the hero instead. Pakistan could find themselves in the losing column if Swann and Panesar find conditions much to their liking.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 21:18 GMT

    Come off it, The indians are highly reknowned for producing their pitches for the home team, they have been doing it for years, we alll know that and it certainly contributes to their home success. Ghambir is just finding something else to blame for their poor show in Australia. They just don't know how to play on bouncy pitches and why would though when they have been spoon fed with conditions they are best at tackling. If they keep doing that, they will never do in Australia. Ghambit in particular has showed very little footworking skills in the test series so far so him saying this is a copout and shows a reluctance that he will change his technique. Stubborness personified.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    don't know what everyone is crying about..so aus, eng and sa can prepare the pitches to their advantage but india can not..hypocrites , aren't u all ? lets who can bat and score on rank turners from overseas teams..i have no problems home teams preparing pitches to their advantage..lets see when was the last time eng, sa and aus won the test series in india..

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    soo wait.. all along .. in india ... all your test wickets are rank turners. what are you trying to justify ?

  • POSTED BY atifd on | January 23, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    Gambir wants pitches everywhere according to his preference. What a pathetic comment. Gambhir, If you are such a big star in indian batting then you should perform everywhere not just in india. Indian cricket team should be officially called "Flat track bullies" as this comment of Gambhir clearly proves everybody's point.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    I think Gambhir is 100% right that if Aussies and English team play in their home by using their own conditions which suited them more than the visitors than why should not Indian or Pakistani can Do this...i think India, Pakistan and Sri lanka should prepare their home pitches according to their strength and the weakness of oppenent.,..i mean they should prepare Turning tracks where these White People surely will not be able to play...

  • POSTED BY X.2. on | January 23, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    when u played in srilanka again mendis and murali what happened then why ur batting line up is failed?

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    As a saying goes "adversity brings the true character of an individual", this Indian team has hit the nadir and no doubt this Indian team is really good team, at times it's better to shut the gob when things are not going one's way.Frankly speaking, the pitches prepared by the Aussie curators were absolute sporting tracks, Gambir & Sehwag played pathetic shots, Dravid showing glimpses of an amateur & Sachin still so holy but no support, Laxman DNA has been decoded.The fact remains with preparation both geographical & mental toughness.One of the virtue of "Art of war" is element of surprise,bring in a bowler the opponent has not played, with spin being our forte, it would have been a worthy ploy to play Rahul Sharma bowling in tandem with Ashwin.Unlike any other sport(tennis being an exception), beauty of cricket is about playing in varied conditions and being successful.I wonder if every nation starts to prepare wickets suiting there strengths.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    It's funny to say India surely wins on rank turners. How many series we have against SL in SL?

  • POSTED BY baksh1982 on | January 23, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Very Sad to see a professional player talk like this. Would love to see some players who have the fire in them to play for India against any opponent in any country regardless of failure. There's a very famous saying, "Excuses are for Donkeys"..Gautam you aint far away mate. I am really hurt as a cricket fan and even more hurt as an Indian to see our players make statements like this especially from Gautam Gambhir who did so well in NZL 2 years ago in swinging conditions..Indian team is in dire need of the Rocky series!!! Eye of the tiger..

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    @valvan, even on turners Muralitharan has not been able to beat India in India. So lets not talk about that. Also, when England/Australia/SA travel to India, they too lose to India. So its not about the wicket, it is the nature of the teams today that they will not do well outside their known conditions. The 4 tests that India has beaten Australia in 2 India series were on flat batting tracks and there was no ounce of spin. Even the historical 2001 Kolkata test was won on an absolute batting track. So wickets in India are also very fair now and still these fancied nations are losing in India.

  • POSTED BY aarif on | January 23, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    Well, even if the curators produce a rank turner, who in the Indian line up is capable of turning the ball a rank ?? Harbhajan ?? His doosra turns maybe half a millimeter more than his pehla and his pehla doesn't turn more than half a millimeter anyway. Or Ashwin ? His pehla, doosra, tessra, carrom ball whatever you want to think about, they all don't turn much eaither. Ojha ?? When have you ever seen a left arm spinner turning the ball anyways ?? Maybe Mishra, yes. But he is consistently inconsistent. How long has it been since Dale Steyn tore apart the much hyped Indian batting line in their own backyard ?? And that pitch wasn't the most bouncy or green in the world. It was closer to being a 'Rank Turner' only. The recipe for success at the highest level is always 'Hard Work' and 'Hard Work' and 'Hard Work' only. So, Mr. gambhir, please get your head down and concentrate on not fishing outside the off stump. Leave your bat to do the rest of the talking.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    Surely making your home wickets even more suited to yourself means you'll be even less prepared when you go overseas?

  • POSTED BY vijeeta on | January 23, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    Nach najane angan tedha, Gambhir first try to leave your habbit of poking outside offside

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    This is welcome. Though 70-80% of total cricket lovers does enjoy the matches on bouncy pitches, we must also welcome the "rank turners" to enjoy the real TEST cricketing skills. But the problem with Indian pitches is that if they willingly prepare the tracks in that fashion, ball will simply rolls on the pitch. If ball does't rises as much as 50% of expected bounce by top 7 batsman match referees will receive so many complaints.

    The pitches in England and Australia are not really bad, once you set in the crease, "YOU CAN TRUST THE BOUNCE" says Ravi Shastri. That is the most important quality of international pitches. In India apart from Mohali, Nagpur, Bangalore and Hyderabad you will no where find such beautiful pitches.

  • POSTED BY Sprit_of_Cricket on | January 23, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    Bad comment . Ok he is trying to say that real test of a teams to perform overseas. Mr Gambhir isn't that your chance to prove as u are overseas . What will u get to beat teams in back home . The real satisfaction is to perform overseas and defend on home grounds . I never consider u a professional player and u have shown your amateur talent by givin these pethetic comment. Let's hope India bounce back otherwise to many faces will become history

  • POSTED BY Green_and_Gold on | January 23, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    Nothing wrong with the home team advantage - as long as the wickets produce a decent game (i.e. more than a 47 but less than a 600 track). Thats what makes the game interesting. In the end its the same track for both teams. Gambir should be mindful of his position when making the statements though - would be better to put a positive spin on it.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    It is the same pitch for both teams , How come they can score runs and we can not ! We need better Footwork. Fitness to play long innings.

    Pradip

  • POSTED BY PureTom on | January 23, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    While I don't agree with the spirit it was said in I do agree with the sentiment. I thought it was disgraceful when Sri Lankan Cricket got fined in their recent series against Australia for preparing a turner. The match got a result on the 5th day, what's wrong with that? As long as the pitch doesn't actually break up why may it not turn on day 1? Where is this written? Has the MCC said so? Who decided that greentops are fair, but turners are not? The toss decides who gets the "advantage" and as far as I know noones managed to fix that, yet. - I am South African, fyi

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Real temprament, technique and endurance can only be tested on Sub continent types of pitches. Gambhir to some extent is right in mentioning it where most of sub continent teams have been bombed out by Aust, England and s africa on their home pitches. Look what has happened to Sub continent Hockey teams when astro-turf was used which require physical streghth rather than technique. Play to your strenght and dont worry about press. Make Gambhir BCCI chief without muddled thinking!!

  • POSTED BY pjromafernando on | January 23, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    MR, GAMBIR IF YOUR A INTENATIONAL PLAYER SO YOU SHOULD DO ANY PITCH OR ANY COUNTRY YOU WILL GET TO PLAY... DO NOT COMPLAIN BY WASTING YOUR TIME,,, COZ AUSI DID BETTER THEN IND TAKE IT POSITIVLY THER BETTER THEN IND

  • POSTED BY Ind_Saffer_1987 on | January 23, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    Let us for a moment, humor Mr Gambhir... Assuming these Rank Turners are produced, who does the Indian Team have at the moment in the spinning department that is going make the difference? A few years ago, when Bajji and Kumble were in top form, then maybe yes, Rank Turners would have made sense... But now, Ashwin is above average at best. Vettori, Swann, Ajmal, Hafeez are all better than him. Tahir (who bowls on non-spin friendly tracks) and Lyon are on par with Ashwin... So, i reiterate, who is going to take advantage of these Rank Turners, from an Indian perspective???

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    Every team has home advantage. The best teams are those who can play abroad too. However, im pakistani and we dont have a powerful batting line-up like india's yet we are performing better than they are away from home. I think Gambhir is right about the bowling, the strength of indias bowling... well what strength. If they're going to be the best then can't have a bowling attack that struggles to take wickets with the assistance that English and Australian grounds offer. Finally, why would you hint that your own pace bowlers are not good enough in the middle of an important series... That is a real confidence killer, and a dressing room upsetter.

  • POSTED BY vineetkarthi on | January 23, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    For now, there is no difference between Gambhir's batting and talking - both are flop shows.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    I used to have respect for Gambhir's intellectual capacity, but not any more. Has he not realized that India's current strength in the bowling department is actually pace and not spin? We don't have a single spinner who can claim a solid spot in the side. So, if anything, we should be preparing fast tracks, not turning ones.

  • POSTED BY amit.80s on | January 23, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    I totally agree with Gauti and supports his idea of making rank turners for visiting teams. Still the bowlers need to be disciplined and persistent just like Aussies. There 've been times when Indian bowlers got Aus under pressure but then suddenly loose the intensity and they fought back to win the game. Especially in Perth when they give freebees to Warner and Cowan on the first day and let them take the game away but on the second day they bowled well and bowled out Aus in two sessions. Our batting let us down but our bowling also done well in patches only otherwise Aus batsmen would'nt have scored so many runs and they all have showed sign of struggle whenever our bowlers bowl well.

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | January 23, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    I cant understand why Sid M posted his personal comment on a interview/press meet by Gambhir.. Could have either gone for a separate article on his own on the topic rather than posting it in the column as a verdict.. Seems new in cricinfo!

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | January 23, 2012, 9:56 GMT

    What is the wrong this will do to Indian mentality? Do u guys expect India to provide seaming green tracks to fulfill your dreams of beating India in India? Nottingham and Oval which produce assistance for spin to some extent were made absolute green tracks.. If it is home advantage, what Gambhir mentions is also same home advantage.. Regarding the timing of the interview, it doesn't matter what the timing is.. Does the press stop the meet because the player need to practice? Or does they stop criticizing when match happens? There is nothing called timing.. What ll happen in the match ll happen even if there is no such comment by Gauti!!

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | January 23, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    Some people just see everything wrong and in this case, most people.. What is wrong in what Gambhir said? Didn't England/SA/Aus/NZ prepare green tracks for everyone and struggle while playing spin in subcontinent? Do they ever care for a win in subcontinent? Nothing wrong in what he says.. Some teams managed to draw here in India only when the track is flat.. We don't want flat tracks and a result oriented spinning tracks.. As one pointed, India just getting away in Mumbai/Mohali etc.. They were classics played on turning tracks guys.. Lets have classics than flat draws.. Yes India are down at the moment but whatever they do need not be looked in negative sense.. I as really ashamed by seeing some senseless posts here..

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    Shocking statements from a top order batsman in the middle of an important series. How about concentrating on what you presently have on your plate, buddy!! Join

  • POSTED BY gulzee on | January 23, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    This statement of Gambhir is really a disappointment for India's pace bowlers. If Aussie can rip off through strong and experienced India's batting line up, by the help of grassy bouncy pitches, why not indian bowlers did at least half the level of performance of Australia. The kind of pitches teams have to face overseas are always expected, hence the top ranked teams should prepare themselves accordingly.

  • POSTED BY TheOnlyEmperor on | January 23, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    India has somehow developed this notion that it produces the best spinners. Somehow, I have seen the best consistent batch of spinners coming from Pakistan and the Indians have long struggled to score against them properly. Much is made of the famed Indian spinning quartet. As a kid I used to be ashamed to see them struggle to take the English out (Greg, Fletcher, etc) or the WI (Clive, Richards) or in Pak at Karachi when Pak scored 160 to win in some 20 odd overs on the last day in 1979. I also keep saying that talking of turning tracks is like insisting on playing on natural grounds when all the other top nations switched to astro-turf in a big way in hockey. Cricket will always be about pace and swinging the ball and the spinner only adds flavor to the bowling attack.

  • POSTED BY THammer on | January 23, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    @Franko333 - That is EXACTLY what's going on here. Stick a fork in India for now. Until they get their collective heads out of the sand, they're done as a truly competitive Test nation for the foreseeable future.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    In India Pitches assist spinners more on Fourth and Fifth day .In 1st 2nd and 3rd Day they are Flat batting deck even Providing assistance to overseas batters too.Where as in England and Australia Ball seam swing and Bounce on the very First day and its became very difficult for the subcontinent team like India to adjust pretty quickly.They straight away put in as per oppsition liking

  • POSTED BY hnlns on | January 23, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    I think Gambhir would be better off learning to playing the short ball or facing chin music rather than calling for rank turners. Let him do all the talking by scoring runs in plenty overseas, especially in South Africa, England, and Australia. To be a test champion, Indian team needs to be tuned to face pacy and seaming conditions rather than hide behind the false sense of belief that they will do well on rank turners and visiting teams will not be able to cope up with such conditions. It is a sheer myth and nothing more than that. People like Gambhir need to realize that South Africa beat India quite comfortably in Cape Town not too long ago on a pitch which was almost similar to typical graveyards seen on Indian test grounds. Also, the author is quite right in pointing out that Sydney and Perth were never nasty playing surfaces, it was incompetence of Indian batsmen that resulted in disastrous defeats.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | January 23, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    Oh, great idea by Gautam gambhir, does he thinks India prepare juicy wickets now, prepare rank turners, but dont call Pakistan or SL for home series, else Ajmal will take all indian 20 wickets in a test for more than one test or SL have enough spinners to topple India in India, if you produce rank turners, once rank turners are produced, Gambhir forgot that they also cant inflate their averages. Preparing rank turners will help India to win games, but not inflate batting averages. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    really this is childish comment from gambhir. This like : you beat me at your home, come and I will see you at my home. This is pathetic. At the same time it the time to take cricket at another level and make cricket free from pitch independent. Curator of pitch should be ICC person and conditions should be similar everywhere.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    While its obvious that Gambhir if frustrated and should better concentrate on his game but its true that India should be preparing its wicket to its own strength.

  • POSTED BY Dr.Hasan on | January 23, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Honestly didnt think it was this bad for the indi team mentally. Been reading the many many comments!strange how certain people choose to continue to delude themselves in favour of their fake gods. Firstly didnt see any outlandish bounce or seam on any of the wickets in this Aus series...greentops ... far far from it so much so that clarke got a triple century, punter got back in form and got a century after many innings and hussey also got a century....miles away from a green top!Besides most of the frontline indi batsmen didnt get out to bounce..they just could not cop up with the decent movement and swing that a good sporting wicket provides. Secondly whats all this trash about the Pak vs Eng 1st test match...that pitch was by no means a "spin-friendly" track..it was a pitch on the slower side indeed but by no means a "rank-turner". Pak won because their bowlers bowled better and their batsmen batted with grit and determination, something clearly lacking from the indi performances!

  • POSTED BY Skilled90 on | January 23, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    If you call yourself the number one team,behave like the number one team.india has a focus on bowling spin in the past but shifted its focus from that to producing a world class batting team hence they curated a pitch for batsmen.If the indian batsmen cant beat the opposition team in batting its simply coz their batting is not as good as they thought it to be.stop blaming the pitch.You dont goto an examiner for a question paper of your choice,the examiner presents his paper in the related area under a specific standard,you deal with it.Gambhir is being a lil kid complaining unlike a real batsmen.murali shane warne could spin on any pitch coz they were real bowlers so could waqur,mcgrath bowl pace on any pitch coz they were real class acts.same as brian lara kallis.... gambir should stop complaining and improve his batting.

  • POSTED BY St.as.ram.rod on | January 23, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    If the ball is swinging and having tennis ball like bounce that is nothing unfair on batsmen. When ICC intervenes it is not cause it is unfair on touring teams but when it is unfair on Batsmen. Ofcourse it will be much easier for Indian/Srilankan Batsmen to adapt as they have more exp playing on such surface but the point is that the pitch doesnt hold itself for the duration of the test and unless broomed it will be just sand..

    And any Indian supporter should have big enough heart to say that Indians are losing due to bad cricket and not due to bad pitches... Australian batsmen are gettign bundled for 47 and getting defeated after 18 years by NZ and our team of greats cant even hold the lines..

    I guess it is indeed fire in their holes.. Just disappointed with Gambhir's admission of loss.. i wonder what they will achieve...

  • POSTED BY St.as.ram.rod on | January 23, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    I dont feel like commenting on Gautam's comments, after been found this is a cat scratching the pole.. he should first say we dont know how to play on supposedly green tops and then suggest to create asian friendly wickts. What he is saying is infact a corrollary that he cant play..

    Just one thing guys - Anyone who has played professional cricket and seen so called Rank turners and Green top.. There is a difference and there is a reason why ICC jump to tell curators that pitch is not good.. Slow turners are the pitch that cant hold the surface together and breaks and is nothing but dusty pitch. The surface becomes uneven creating unusual behavior of ball after pitching either staying low or sharply turning which involves no bowler skills. And is unfair to the batsmen not the any team. this goes for evn a pitch which is too firm and has cracks which can cause the ball to go around unintentionally. Evn in this case ICC reprimands the curator..

  • POSTED BY nav84 on | January 23, 2012, 7:36 GMT

    if bcci commits the mistake of preparing seaming wickets in india, i am afraid indian cricket will follow the route of indian hockey. europeans could nvr play on field so they forced asian countries to play on astro turf and that ended the dominance of india pakistan in hockey. similarly aus/eng/sa can't play on spinning tracks so their experts through their articles and comments will mk evry1 believe that real cricket is on seaming wickets hence every country should prepare seaming wickets. y so hue and cry about learning how to play on seaming tracks? has any english expert suggested to prepare turning track in england after the dubai debacle? no. they know no matter how much spin friendly wickets they prepare at home, they'll still lose to asian sides on a turning track. so better make asian countries prepare seaming tracks by making them believe that real test cricket is played on seaming wickets. i hope asian cricket boards do not fall for it and continue preparing turning tracks.

  • POSTED BY Usman_Hafeez on | January 23, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    then what about Pakistan, who are playing ALL their matches on foreign soil since last 3-4 years and still winning. They have beaten NZ in NZ, Bangladesh in Bangladesh, WI in WI, then reached semi-final of World-cup while playing in Bangladesh and India, beaten SL in UAE, beaten Aus in Engalnd in 2010, and now beaten England in UAE as well. It means Pakistan is No. 1 team on present era as they are beating everyone everywhere :)

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    satish619chandar and sportofpain: i agree with both of you..first of all indian conditions does not mean bounce and all..so only dust bowls..and even good bowlers fast bowlers, if they are really good must prove here..wasim,akhtar,younis..they were lethal bowlers in india...same is zaheer khan..once a rank turner was given to rsa and we had seen how good they are in doing dancing

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    i guess it is you who is frustrated monga..not gambhir..all country plays to their strengths..only india has this slavish mindset to help the visiting teams

  • POSTED BY Mitcher on | January 23, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    @Vishal Raghuvanshi: incorrect. Have a look at some footage of Australia v west indies when they were at their peak at the WACA. If ghambir thinks the wickets are tough now then god help him if he'd had to play back then. Australia were thrashed regularly on australian pitches produced for pace against that great pace attack. Regularly walloped too.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | January 23, 2012, 7:07 GMT

    Watching Umar Gul bowling out the Eng top order on a flat pitch leads me to think that Pattinson, Cummins & Co will be just as good in the subcontinent... Harris did well in SL as did Watson - so good medium/fast bowlers can do well in all conditions... Can also see the SA pace attack doing well in Asia... Actually was surprised at how slow Anderson, Tremlett were bowling at between 120-135kph - hardly medium pace at times...

  • POSTED BY sachinsjaihindustan on | January 23, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir, I am not sure which game or series you are going on about, but from what I've seen, Australian pitches have always been known for their pace and bounce. This series has been no different. Similarly India have always produced pitches, suited to spin. That's the whole idea of home gropund advantage. They can't even get through the new ball without losing 4 or 5 wickets. If they can prevent that, you might find that their commentary will be different about the pitches. This is where technique is important, and Abhimanyu's suggestion about having bouncy pitches in some domestic venues may be a good one.

  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | January 23, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    Nothing but a cry of pain in helplessness!! Gambhir: You can count how often India has not doctored pitches. We have always had pitches completely shorn off grass and sometime even underprepared tracks to conquer tougher visiting sides.When have we laid out grassy pitches with pace and bounce? once or never. Even with rank turners we have lost to top teams and sometimes escaped with draws due to weather. Future is going to be different though. Even tougher: reasons:-SA has a legspinner. England has a left arm spinner and Swann. Australia is perhaps the only team which does not have a threatening spinner. Also be honest as a playing international cricketer that grassy pitches are more sporting as they gradually wither to help bowlers on 4th and 5th days unlike bald pitches that start turning from day one and become unplayable from day 2 with uneven bounce and spitting spin. But India be better beware!With good fast bowlers in team, India will do better on sporting pitches than bald ones

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 23, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @JAMAL NASIR . IN 2008 -2011 INDIA PLAYED TWO TEST SERIES IN SL IN 2008 & 2010 , PLAYED TEST SERIES IN NZ IN 2009 , PLAYED A TEST SERIES IN SA IN 2010-2011 PLAYED A TEST SERIES IN WI IN 2011 & IN ENG IN 2011 . I WOULD NOT SAY THAT INDIA PLAYED ONLY AT HOME IN THAT ERA .

  • POSTED BY Libra635 on | January 23, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    It's really disappointing to read the mindset of Gambhir. He is negating the immense talent, skills and all the hard work of greats like Tendulkar, Dravid and few of the past Indian heroes. Can any pace attack in cricket history be at par with the black storm of WI in 70s, 80s & 90s? Accepting Gambhir's logic will definitely put Gavaskar & Co as an alien for India. To me it's all a nerve game, when you are under pressure you can't perform even on the flat tracks; see what happens with English players in Dubai? Along with the mental toughness the second element responsible for this white wash is the physical platitude caused by the overdose of money oriented T-20 leagues. A cricket lover from Pakistan

  • POSTED BY johnathonjosephs on | January 23, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    What excuses. Its sad because NZ managed to at least draw against this exact same Australian side and India is getting 4-0 whitewashed. NZ that means is at least 3X as better than India

  • POSTED BY noID on | January 23, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    It's absolutely fine to ask for rank turners and I agree that home sides should have advantage and also that overseas teams should succeed in rank turners to prove that they are champion teams. What I don't agree is the timing of Gambhir's comment. Talk about all those when India play in India. At the moment, when you are in Australia and talk like this, it shows that your focus is not in the 4th test at Adelaide. You have already decided to lose and not put up a fight as you are clearly thinking about ways to console yourself about successful performance in India. Very sad state of mind!

  • POSTED BY karthik_raja on | January 23, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    I cant understand this.. When Ind batsmen hav huge averages - "They play in flat tracks".. When Ind fail outside Subcontinent - "They cant play in pace/bouncy/swinging conditions".. Bt now whn Gambhir asks for turning tracks in Ind - "Its already turning tracks in Ind.. Pitches r NOT doctored to b green/pacy/bouncy/swinging in Aus/Eng.." Whn Ind ranked #1, ranking doesnt make any sense.. Ind played all @ home(eventhough, we visited Eng,Aus,NZ,WI,SA,SL starting frm 2007).. Now, whn Eng ranked top(by winning only in Eng/Aus - favourable conditions), ranking makes sense and blah blah.. Whn Dravid's NOTOUTs were overturned widout enuf evidence in Eng, Andy Flower was sleeping.. Now, when Strauss was not Overturned(England lost), he wants DRS to b re-thinked.. Whn Ind won T20WC, T20s r meaningless.. Whn Eng won it now, it is an exciting format of game and ODIs became meaningless now, since ODI-WC is wid Ind..Hmm. I just cant understand these Indian critics.. plz help understand thm better.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Why should India comprimise on its advantage and Gambhir is right when he says turners in India for the rest who come to play. What BCCI can do is to have 2 pitch per stadium , one superfast and another as rank turners, and every team in Ranji has to play on a fast pitch and slow pitch on alternative matches.

  • POSTED BY muralibnair on | January 23, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    As if being thrashed 3-0 was not enough... at least you can sportingly acknowledge the superior performance from the Oz.. Hope this is not the reflection of the mindset of the entire Team India... they clearly need to search within themselves as to what has gone wrong since their very creditable drawn series against SA in 2011.

  • POSTED BY johntycodes on | January 23, 2012, 6:31 GMT

    A news flash for whoever said this I can't remember, they do prepare rank turners already and secondly is that a wise move considering india haven't got any good spinners anymore.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    India is exposed overseas, they don't have a good track record outside India. They fear to play Pakistan because their bowling is best in the world.

  • POSTED BY venkatesh018 on | January 23, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    What disappointing words from such a senior player and I thought he was captaincy material for India. MCG, SCG and Perth were far off from the unplayable, seaming monsters they are made out to be. And the four pitches in England were much more batting friendly than the once in this current series. The truth is nobody expected this young, upstart Australian bowling unit to produce such a hostile, consistent display of fast bowling and credit should be rightly given to them. Going back to producing dustbowls like the one at Wankhede in 2004 will just take India back to the Azharuddin-Wadekar era of the early 90s and that would be a really backward step into the future.

  • POSTED BY sabee66 on | January 23, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    Australia has proved to be number one for so many years and still they will be undisputed world Number one for ever you guys are only good in that flat tracks bullies, why can't u manage to score even a 100 from any of your batsman, why why, you guys have played 20+ years of cricket nd stop complaining , practise and practise

  • POSTED BY Sarangarajan on | January 23, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    What Gambhir has said about making rank turners is quite logical. It is "TEST MATCH" and every team is tested on different pitch conditions.If every where the pitch should be of same condiiton or prepared to same standards, then why play test matches in different countries? Play them all in one place and evaluate the performance. The talk of making sporting pitches in India to suit the foreign teams, is simply,absurd.When India goes to Australia/ England/Newzeland, we are provided with green tops.Do we have any right to complain?. So when these people come to India, why should we provide fast and sporting pitches to them. Let them dance to the spin, turners,use their footwork to score runs.It is the real test of their skill. Not long ago, ECB, England, in the seventies changed the rules of the game to negate Indias spin quartert by restricting number of fielders in the leg side.What are we talking about fair pitches?

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    Sounds like a guy who could not run it down to third-man any more. Well you just undermined the ability of your own team by saying that. You might as well say, my team cannot play quality fast bowling. You personally want to charge these fast bowlers knowing the ball will be somewhere below your waist, don't you?

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 5:35 GMT

    I have yet to see such an ill advised comment from an player whose claim to fame is grit! The world over Australia, England.South Africa, New Zealand etc have bouncy and fast wickets. We must learn to win matches there. There is no point in burying your head in the sand.. Shane Warne and Murlitharan have had huge success on such pitches, so its all about good bowling and batting rather than having tailor made pitches for our bowlers.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 5:23 GMT

    We Indians never acknowledge the fact that Aus/Eng/SA play spin much better than how India handles pace. PERIOD.

    All of us Indians should ask ourselves this one simple question. Will Aus/Eng/SA ever suffer consecutive innings defeats in the subcontinent ? NO. Even though India will most likely win, the scoreline will not be an embarrassment. The same 4 match test series in India would have been 1-1 or 2-1 in favor of India, with the series being an even contest.

    These youngsters like Gambhir and Kohli should concentrate on honing their technical skills and batting better on pacy wickets instead of giving asinine comments like "We shall see how tihngs are, when you come to my backyard"

  • POSTED BY truebleue_cricfan on | January 23, 2012, 5:23 GMT

    Gambhir, perhaps you can also add that you should be considered for selection only in subcontinental games. When it comes to touring overseas, you could request that you be replaced by someone more competent than you to handle those seaming and bouncing deliveries. How does that sound?

  • POSTED BY Naseer on | January 23, 2012, 5:21 GMT

    This is really nothing more than frustration! people who have played more than 100 matches, toured several times to Eng. Aus, S.Africa, know the conditions well, still talk about conditions etc, it is really poor approach!, if you cannot adopt to any condition after having got such vast amount of experience, you have to accept your failure and dont blame anyone, no team would expect Aus, Eng, to prepare batting paradise for them. There is no problem in requesting the curator in home to prepare pitches according your favour, but in the middle of lost series such statements look very ugly. one thing is clear that India has lost its direction in test cricket right now, they dont know what to do, even at home against Windies their performance was not impressive, in first test they were kept under pressure by Windies, who could have won the match if they had shown a bit more discipline, I think Gambir should take a leaf out of Matt Prior book who says: it was a big slap in the face.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    Gauthi.... U r right... but still it's not fair for Indian batsmen like Dravid n Sachin... It's hurting indian fans that a great batsman Dravid bowled 9times consecutively... Anyway, Hope U people can come back from Adelaide...

  • POSTED BY late_reverse_swing on | January 23, 2012, 5:02 GMT

    Here is a guy I saw a potential captain in, in a few years. That has just started to slip with comments like these. To be number 1, you need to be able to play in all conditions. Beating teams in the sub continents on turners and getting humiliated overseas is a pretty pathetic mediocre strategy to stick to. If anything, I would vote for making more seamer friendly pitches while also keeping an equal number of turning tracks. If that happens, in a couple of years Gambhir might stop sticking that bat out at anything outside off and might even stop opening the face of his bat a little bit.

    Evolve .. India evolve ...

  • POSTED BY m_kamb on | January 23, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    he's still recovering from head blow.....poor gauti.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    Might is right.Eng and Aus started has members with veto power. When West Indians had the best fast bowlers in business,they brought one bouncer per over. When Indians won a Test against West Indies who had spinners,Clive Loyd ensured that few Indian batsmen reached the hospital,and Bishen Bedi declared the innings closed to avoid body injuries! England lost all 3 tests of the series in India to the spinners with Kumble,Chauhan,Raju and called the wickets as dust bowls.After 400 wickets against his name, Muralidharan was repeatedly called for No ball..by home empire Ross Emerson in Australia. English captain Mike Gatting waves his finger at Shakoor rana at gets away with murder. Australia prepares bouncy and fast pitches..that is their prerogative. India prepares spin friendly wickets even when opposition has Warne or Qadir or Giles or Murali in their ranks..If India wins, they are POOR WICKETS, and dust bowls... If Indian batsmen want turning tracks..poor attitude!

  • POSTED BY teju666 on | January 23, 2012, 4:56 GMT

    Once again, we have missed the bigger picture. The idea is not to avenge defeat by preparing spin friendly wickets. We have been doing that for ages and there is nothing new. The objective is not to lose overseas. BCCI, the cricketers themselves have lost track of the problem and have come up with a diversion that will only deflect and not solve the problem. When India travel overseas 2 yrs later after a string of home victories achieved on typical sub continent wickets, history will repeat itself.

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | January 23, 2012, 4:41 GMT

    Ok, I think this needs to be cleared by the BCCI to the Indian curators from now on, they can prepare so called rank tuners for international matches but, they seriously need to prepare bouncy green pitches for domestic matches so India can find some pace bowlers like Yadav. This way India can keep their home advantage and produce some great players that can also play on bouncy green pitches when touring outside India.

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | January 23, 2012, 4:31 GMT

    @jonesy2 : Australia might be a different story but England was a pure doctoring of pitch.. The old argument says "India cant play bounce/pace".. Same way - "Others can't play spin".. We got enough proofs buddy.. One series win wont change it for Aussies too.. SA never got rank turners except for one in Kanpur where they shed marks on the pitch.. YES, Quality teams win everywhere.. Doctoring teams term others pitch as flat and unchallenged inspite of seeing their team losing there miserably..

  • POSTED BY johnathonjosephs on | January 23, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    The real funny thing about this is many people are saying that India already produces rank turners. That in fact is not true. Rank turners are heavily spin dependent like the one we saw in Sri Lanka last year (with Australia winning the game ironically). Its kinda sad Gambhir is saying this because for India to be producing rank turners, Australia should have produced rank seam/swing when in fact many times India batted, the pitch was pretty flat. India have commited suicide themselves here and need to soul search for some answers. I do want to see UDRS in India though because like one of these comments said, the media and the crowd does impose lots of pressure on Umpires and we all know if certain Indians (MS Dhoni in West Indies last year) do not like umpires, they can lose their job.

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | January 23, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    For all those who are saying that India is preparing RANK TURNERS for ages need to follow Indian cricket more closely. Rank turners were prepared in Azharuddin era where India used to play with 3 spinners. Now a days due to grid of administrators and broadcasters pitches have became docile to last 5 days with batsmen scoring mountain of runs. When you play at home there is something called as home advantage that every home team is entitled to. If Gambhir asks for turners and wants to see how non Asian team perform on that then whats wrong with it? The worlds so called best team was just toppled on a batting wickets by a skillful Pak team in 3 days...! Imagine them playing on rank turners against Ajmal & co.

  • POSTED BY Franko333 on | January 23, 2012, 4:00 GMT

    This is very embarrassing from Gambhir. I can only think he made those comments after baiting from the media because it reflects poorly on him. My first reaction was that his comments are a big slap in the face to his pace bowling team mates. He's basically saying that they are utterly useless. Otherwise they would be ripping through this Australian line-up on these 'green tops'. My second reaction is that he is admitting that India need as much help as they can get from their pitches. Great teams do not need extreme conditions in their favour. This whole "wait until you get to our back yard" mindset screams of a team with no bottle for the fight. As soon as life gets a bit hard then they give up.

  • POSTED BY Vishnz on | January 23, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    On the topic of pitches: I have long wondered that cricket must be the only sport where the playing surface and conditions are allowed to be manipulated by the host. I can understand Gautam's frustration that countries prepare absolute green tops to counter Indian batting and that is perfectly fine, but when India prepares a turning pitch, everyone complains.

    I think the ICC needs to define some specific parameters for pitches, such as moisture levels, grass height, hardness, allowed level of cracks etc. Unless pitches are more uniform, it is difficult to assess which team is indeed the best. Otherwise we will have the situation of the no 1 team being beaten 4-0 again and again!

    After all, there is a lot more money and sponsorship at stake!

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    I think what Gauti wants is return to early 90's where India played three spinners. The problem with that is the moment the game finishes in 2 and half days people will start crying about 'bad' wickets. We will continue to get these kind of wickets until we develop a good pace attack. It is as simple as that. Nobody dared to throw green wickets at the west indian pace battery. And to Ishant sharma : for god sake take some wickets.

  • POSTED BY chokkashokka on | January 23, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    I don't understand what the big deal is about preparing turning wickets in India - those are the ONLY type of wickets that should be served up and this should be expected by all. Why is the writer saying there should be more expected from the Indian team - surely he does not expect India to prepare the extreme grazing greens that see games end in 3 days. How is this defensive? When a game ends in 3 days and 20 wickets fall for a team that just won almost all three of the tests hat home - how can the wickets not be the factor? Ponting said he wanted these types of wickets for aus home tests and was happy to see them - how is that different from what Gambhir said. Actually to expect anything otherwise would be foolish - this is how England up the rankings. SA and Aus seem to aping that - to drum up support for what is dying sport in their home countries. You know where the TV audience is - those home series wil be wached. All others - the grass IS greener on the other side.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    Did he forget that India became no. 1 in the world only because they played a majority of test cricket at home from 2008-2011?

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    India always have made pitches that suit them...wat else do u want frm the curators gambhir?? we can all see that most of the top teams win the test matches at home,the real test is for the visiting teams who finds it hard to gel well wid the conditions..I wud suggest neutral venues for test matches so both teams get equal advantage to compete..but we have to take care of the crowd box office as well..neutral venues do not guarantee to pull crowd in great number..

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 3:40 GMT

    I AGREE WITH GAMBHIR AND ALL PITCHES SHOULD START TURNING FROM DAY ONE THEN WE WILL SEE HOW AUSSIES FARE.

  • POSTED BY noID on | January 23, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    Gambhir, what are you complaining about? Do you realise that Aussies/Poms are also playing on the same green, bouncy tracks? which means, our bowlers get the same opportunities as that of the opposition team. How come their batsmen are hammering us, while we are dancing with the bat on the same pitch. Why don't you accept the fact that our batsmen are clueless against quality pace and swing? Accept it, work on improving. That's the way to go.But, I don't see that happening. Needless to say, the result of the 4th test would be no different. We improved a lot under Ganguly's captaincy. That attitude of fighting is gone. We don't mind losing. But don't give up with out even trying (like you've been doing in Syd and Perth). We have all the money in the cricketing world. What's stopping BCCI from creating a couple of pitches similar to that of AUS/ENG/SA in India? Import soil for the pitch, create indoor stadiums if weather would be a hindrance. Why can't we do it?

  • POSTED BY electric_waco_WAP4 on | January 23, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    Looks like every home team makes pitches for the home team. Why do guys blame Indian batsmen? When did Austrialia win in India? When did England win In India? If Austrilians, English and Pakis are such a talented and skilled players, they should adopt to Indian conditions right?...Am I missing something. Gambir is absolutely right. None of these teams have talent to play outside the home conditions...Period. Show me one current team which plays out side the home conditions and win. Only team OLD WIs teams used to do that

  • POSTED BY money2504 on | January 23, 2012, 3:30 GMT

    WELL SAID GAMBHIR! AND I CANT UNDERSTAND ONE THING. RECENTLY IN THE SRI LANKA VS AUSTRALIA MATCH, THE GALLE PITCH TURNED FROM DAY 1, AND HERE COMES THE ICC AND WARNS THE CURATORS AND ALL FOR A BAD PITCH. IF SO WHY DONT THEY GO AND WARN THE CURATORS IN WACA OR CENTURION SAYING IT WAS TOO FAST AND BOUNCY? ISNT THIS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE ASIAN TEAMS? IF THE AUSTRALIANS OR SOUTH AFRICANS PREPARE BOUNCY AND PACY WICKETS FOR US ASIANS, WHY CANT WE PREPARE RANK TURNERS AS GAMBHIR SAID? THATS THE NATURE OF THE SOIL IN THIS REGION SO WE HAVE TO PREPARE EM LIKE THAT? IT DOESNT MATTER THE MATCH ENDS INSIDE 3 DAYS, IF THE MATCHES ARE ENDIND IN 3 DAYS IN WACA OR CENTURION BECAUSE OF BOUNCE AND PACE. WE ASIAN COUNTRIES MUST STAND UP AGAINST THIS CONSPIRACY. IM FULLY AGREED WITH GAMBHIR. WELL SAID SIR!

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    This is what indian players attitude, they r just helpless now.

  • POSTED BY Itchy on | January 23, 2012, 3:20 GMT

    @reality_check27: The same South Africa that has not beaten Australia in South Africa since re-admission, including about 6 months ago? I don't think so!

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    Same for you too gambhri when you and India go overseas what happen don't make runs blame pitch. Just because Peter siddle's is better now you can't addmit the facts go and learn to bat.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | January 23, 2012, 2:06 GMT

    With this statement Gauti has admitted that he can't play on fast, bouncy pitches. PLEASE REPLACE GAUTI WITH RAHANE. Please play Rohit Sharma in place of VVS, The Hole (formerly known as the The Wall) or i-only-care-about-my-century you know who. Also if Ishant can't take wickets on fast bouncy pitches, why is he still part of this team? Instead play Ojha or Mithun. Cricinfo pls post

  • POSTED BY Big_CricInfo_fan on | January 23, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    Indian fans (incl. me) already lost faith in their team for not even putting up a fight (by losing 4 of the last 7 overseas tests by an innings and 2 of the rest by huge margins 196 and 319). Cannot be a more sound walloping than this. The bowlers showed some spirit and that showed in all matches in this series (except SCG which turned flat from day 2). But the batsmen have been abysmal considering that they commit the same mistakes every time they bat. And with comments like these, their attitude is exposed ("let's get this over with. we will take u on when u meet us in our place."). They only lose more fans as a result. Cricinfo, pls publish this since this is what many of us, Indian fans, feel right now.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    This Indian team is going nowhere! With this attitude Indians should expect whitewashes abroad every time. Gambhir is admitting Indians can't play on flat Australians tracks and make no mistake, the last few games have been played on some pretty flat tracks. But the 'conditions' have been different! What a puny excuse! Don't see Australian and English teams being beaten this badly in Sub-continent and at least not coming up with such puny excuses. Good luck Indians, many whitewashes await your team.

  • POSTED BY Des_65 on | January 23, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    To me, Gambhir is talking sense. If a team wants to prove that they are number one, they should be able to bat/bowl on Indian/subcontinent turning pitches and win matches over there. Why don't they make a turner in their country for a test match? They should try practising on turning pitches in their own country. Otherwise, all pitches should be played on astro-turf (like hockey but unlike Tennis), so no one can possibly complain. What is the difference between pitches full of bounce and movement on all days of a test match from the ones which start turning on Day One?

  • POSTED BY Ameega on | January 23, 2012, 1:30 GMT

    "He said the real test of a team was to win overseas". So do not you think two of those tests were done in Eng and Aus, Mr Gambir?

  • POSTED BY Built_4_the_Kill on | January 23, 2012, 1:20 GMT

    Frankly speaking Gautam has no idea what he is talking about. India, in each test match, at least in one inning was given opportunity to bat during the period considered best for batting.... All most all batters had good starts in at least one or more innings however not capitalizing on those opportunities. I have watched highlights of all three test matches more than 5 times and couldn't convince myself the downfall of Indian batting is due to the nature of wickets. For example... Rahul who once had the best footwork against fast bowlers now seems to prefer playing them from the crease. None of his dismissals was from an unplayable deliveries. If you compare Rahul with Ashwin.... Later at least had better footwork. I agree with Gambhir on one point and that is preparing wickets best suited to the host and if England or Australia or South Africa wants to rise and remain at the top... they must learn to beat teams outside their comfort zones.

  • POSTED BY FatBoysCanBat on | January 23, 2012, 1:18 GMT

    This is probably a good idea. In NZ we used to prepare green-tops to help our bowlers and got up to #2 in the World 8-10 years ago. We went away from that and struggle to even compete in most Tests these days - although that looks like it is starting to change now. As the home team you have to prepare wickets that suit your players and not so much the opposition. Against Pak and SL you might struggle though.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 1:13 GMT

    A very disappointing comment for a person battling bad form. Agree home advantage like pitches, crowds plays into hosts advantage but lets not forget India were No 1 test playing side and if they have to justify that ranking ( even if it was a short blip) the cricketesr should refrain ftom such remarks. Look back into historu, WI, Australia all did very welll overseas as well as home turf and not cry wolf ata sight of a swinging ball and a bouncing ball. Players have to take the plame but the so called administrators of the game ( i dare say are no good and should be sent packing dont help as well, their vision was al,ways a quetion mark, professionalism unheard and cricketing prowess is like smoking mirrors. The recipe is 40 in england and probably the same in Australia and India cliams we were no 1; wake up guys call ovre bagladesh and let the master score his 100 centuries and bid bye to game. Sadly after tendulaker the rebuidling and how will be done is a bog quetionmark.

  • POSTED BY WeirPicki on | January 23, 2012, 1:09 GMT

    He needs to mention how the Indian crowds, media and players influence the umpires in their favour when playing at home too. Bring on the DRS for all series!

  • POSTED BY Simoc on | January 23, 2012, 0:50 GMT

    Lets hope that Tendulkar, Dravid & Laxman all score centuries in Adelaide and earn themselves another series at home and a trip here next next time.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 23, 2012, 0:50 GMT

    @ johnathonjosephs - I have absolutely no problems with pitches that has a main charactor of being a turning track. The fact is the 2nd Test pitch in SL v Oz was dead on Day 1! A pitch should have some semblance of life in it on Day 1. The pitch in Sth Africa was played on in a test in November for the 2nd in 100 yrs or so! It is not a normal situation & swing thru the air was a massive factor in the 2 sets of low scores. == == == Countries should maintain the charactoristics of the home pitches, but adhere to the "loose" principle taht it should have some life in it early for the pacers, become good to bat on for a couple of days & then deteriorate on Day 4 & 5. EVERY pitch played on this year in Oz, had something in it for spinners, (Hobart obviously more so for seamers). There was turn in Sydney & MCG, hard to tell at the WACA as the match didn't make into the 4th day, but there were big cracks.

  • POSTED BY BravoBravo on | January 23, 2012, 0:47 GMT

    What they say, if you can't dance, blame it on the ballroom. If IND has such mighty batting line, why they can not play anywhere and everywhere. One misery after another misery for IND. First they were blaming their own bowlers, now they are blaming pitches. How long you decieve cricket fans that IND batsmen are excellent (THEY ARE JUST ORDINARY). Who cares how much centuries IND batsmen made, question is how many matches you win. IND should focus on wins rather than worthless records. Fact of the matter is that their WIN to LOSS ratio in Test and ODI is worst among the top teams, they stay at the very bottom. If their mentality does not change, then it will be their natural place to stay at the bottom of table when it comes to WIN to LOSS ratio. Lets see what happens in 4th test match, most likely it will be a whitewash. And with this mentality, they are going to loose ODI triseries as well.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 0:47 GMT

    So childish & immature statement, this guy hasn't grown up! he is looking for a child's play with every ball coming on the face of a bat & going for a boundary. Someone make him realize how unjust India is doing to the game by confining cricket to 'batting' only! A flat track game in India & Blind match has no difference....tons of score on the board & the helpless fielders just look like a bunch of spectators around the pitch.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 23, 2012, 0:45 GMT

    All teams are good at home, they struggle when travelling in alien overseas conditions, look at the current number 1 England side. Unless ICC does something to standardise the pitches then we will continue to have these one sided series.

  • POSTED BY Everywhere on | January 23, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    Most of us here are biased towards our teams or players and hence failed to understand this beautiful game of cricket. Why does people born in china speak chinese language and someone else born in india speak hindi ? Simply coz thts what ur taught from ur early age. Same way players acquire those skills better which they have been learning from early age. There is no reason to fight over it ? We all have our heroes and we always want them to be the best but it is lot better to enjoy a game with a right spirit and not just look at the result and loose our sleep over it. We must learn to watch the game in right spirit and bring our cricket intellect more than getting emotionally upset on losing. Nobody is a loser who has given his 100%. Sports is a game of skills and each player needs to constantly hone it. There will always be reason for the defeat but what im trying to suggest is when our state of mind is emotional we often tend to see the wrong reason for a defeat.

  • POSTED BY 4thslip on | January 23, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    what defeated mentality by Gambhir. Even clarke is good enough to run through India on the rank turners that he is talking about. I feel sorry for Yadav because he will turn into a vinay kumar by the time india are done playing at home. btw srilanka prepared a rank turner for aus and they lost, so the future does not look good for india.

  • POSTED BY RightArmEverything on | January 23, 2012, 0:15 GMT

    What is this recent, irritating trend of some people intentionally mis-spelling words. What is 'dis' and 'dat'. Use correct English, 'this' and 'that', otherwise you sound like an 8-year old or some gangster rapper.

  • POSTED BY Semoli on | January 23, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    India already do that, what is his point. On another note, Gambhir bhai just became trantrum throwing kid. I wonder if he is following team instructions here!!

  • POSTED BY Blueangle on | January 23, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    I feel sorry for Indian fans. How can you expect from a team with such a negative mindset to win. After this statement and previous statements of Kohli and Sharma, its quite clear the Team India lost this tour before they landed on Australian soil. They are not planing for the coming games, rather they are thinking how they will return the favor to English and Aussies on "rank turners". Very very disappointing from a team who claims to be world number 1 team.

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 0:08 GMT

    Gambhir should spend more time focusing on correcting his weakness than demanding pitches be made to make it easy for him

  • POSTED BY on | January 23, 2012, 0:08 GMT

    Dear Gambhir Sir, Preparing dusty, rank turners may help us thrash the not sub-continent teams, but would never be a investment in building a world champion test team, yes you may defeat weaker teams like WI, but think about your trips to Australia/England and SA...Not to forget that INDIA stopped producing world class spinner off-late. I would rather have faster tracks installed in INDIA, give no ear to any criticism if INDIA looses a few matches...if we can produce a Sachin, Dravid, VVS on flat tracks, sure can do greater on lively tracks too.

  • POSTED BY Semoli on | January 23, 2012, 0:06 GMT

    India already do that, what is his point. On another note, Gambhir bhai just became trantrum throwing kid. I wonder if he is following team instructions here!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 23:48 GMT

    Prepare 'rank turners' for visiting teams - Gambhir duh.. You have been doing just that for ages son. Infact when the people aren't satisfied the pitches, people start curating themselves like in 1999 Delhi test between ind & Pak. Now go out and start practicing against the short stuff..

  • POSTED BY chishtyirfan on | January 22, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir, don't talk like a child, accept the humiliation from England & Australia. and find out what is the reason behind it. You guys are professional cricketers. You should be ready for whatever conditions. The way you guys gave up in matches shows that you don't have spirit of the country. you should be shame what you have done. You guys are playing for self records. May be England, Oz and south africa come to India and loose here but I am doubt not the way you lost own there backyard.

  • POSTED BY Everywhere on | January 22, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    Most of us (indian fans) are extremely dissapointed but we must not forget sport is a game of skills and sometimes u get beaten not coz ur poor but also coz ur opponent is on top of his game and hence make u look extremely poor. Personally i feel in cricket any team which can strengthen their bowling attack has more chances of dominating other teams simply coz a batsmen cannot play a pullshot to a yorker or play a straight drive to a bouncer. A good bowler or bowler who is in good form on a good wicket wld always be able to put the best of the best batsmen under pressure and it only takes one good ball to get the batsmen out. On a same wicket when one team is able to score 600+ and other merely manages to score 250 who would you find out whether it is bad batting ot bad bowling ? i think we just need to simply look at how many batsmen got out to good bowling and how many of those good balls were our bowlers able to deliver consistently.( TO BE CONTINUED).

  • POSTED BY s_v_krishnan on | January 22, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    I was shocked to see so many of here agreed with Gambhir. Imagine if Indian pitches are fast and bouncy, Sachins, Dravids score more than what they scored now. Sports needs to be a challenge not one sided. Ask BCCI to make fast and bouncy pitches after that India can challenge the world. One should have good view Gambhir won't have that.

  • POSTED BY Moppa on | January 22, 2012, 23:31 GMT

    Hmmm, so many errors in Gambhir's whinge, I mean, analysis it's hard to know where to start. Firstly, the pitches in this series have hardly been green seaming monsters, or particularly bouncy. India had the best of the Melbourne deck on day 2, and Sydney was hardly as venomous as their batting made it look on day 1. Perth was green but not particularly quick or bouncy. Second, India have been shown to be vulnerable to full, disciplined bowling before - in their own conditions, in the 2004 Border-Gavaskar Trophy. McGrath, Gillespie and Kasprowicz bowled full and straight with protection at mid-wicket to allow them to target off-stump, and kept India to less than 250 in both innings in the first and third Tests (Mumbai too, but that pitch was a joke). If India just make lazy excuses, they'll get a nasty surprise when England or Australia apply the technique to them again in India.

  • POSTED BY Barnesy4444 on | January 22, 2012, 23:31 GMT

    An international batsman publicly telling curators what sort of pitches to prepare? Surely there is a line that's been crossed here? "The real test of a batsman is making runs overseas", that's right Guatam it is, how many runs have you made overseas recently?

  • POSTED BY whyowhy on | January 22, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    Have Indian umpires, Indian Match Referee, no DRS, Play only in India, Have rank turners, and Gautam India will come back to number one in the rankings.... I think it will be better if all contracted players in India are given a list of what they want done to international cricket to suite them, then bully the rest of the world to do what they want and the whole of India will live happily.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    really???? if this is going to be the response (excuse) to the humiliating defeats overseas, we can forget world # 1 ranking!!! stop finding goddamn excuses and figure out ways to win both at home and abroad!

  • POSTED BY scottyg on | January 22, 2012, 22:54 GMT

    It's alright to prepare pitches for your own skills- their will never be a pitch in India with heaps of grass and seam movement- but they cannot just say that is all right to come over to Aus and Eng and get belted and just say that the conditions didnt suit them. India's batsmen all have t20 techniques- see ball and then hit it without any foot movement (Tendulkar is an exception) This doesnt work in Aus and ENg and they will never go well in test cricket here.

  • POSTED BY sunnysss on | January 22, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    It is very disappointing to see such comments from Test cricketers and even Board official seems to make statements like this. This is not a good approach to correct the wrongs and stem the tide. This kind of thoughts are not good for future of Indian cricket.

  • POSTED BY MWaqqar on | January 22, 2012, 22:47 GMT

    Gambhir is showing defeatist attitude unbecoming of an international player. He accepts that Indians are not capable of batting abroad and the only way they could possibly win is by making 'Rank Turners' at home. No wonder Indians are no more No 1.

  • POSTED BY SmashingBaby on | January 22, 2012, 22:40 GMT

    1. Doesn't matter where these teams play, Australia's bowling line up is far better than India's at the moment, plus Dhoni can't set a test field to save his life even when his bowlers are bowling well. 2. I do agree with Ghambir that each country should be allowed to prepare pitches to suit the home side, and that they should all have life in them - why does the BCCI want every test in India to end in a draw, are they trying to destroy test cricket? 1 billion population vs 22 million and still test matches in Australia are getting bigger crowds. 3. Come one everyone, the ICC is only there so board members can work in plush offices in Dubai and get free tickets to big matches, it's not actually there to govern cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    dont worry too much about the rankings, they can only be taken seriously when teams play an even amount of home and away series. india have played us twice at home since the last away series and havent got an away test for the next two years...the rankings are a joke

  • POSTED BY satyagorthy on | January 22, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    I cant help but muse about pitches at Brit-oval and Lords which "were" traditionally turning pitch but they were prepared for bounce with plenty of green when Indians toured England in summer'11. Nasser Hussain wondered what happens to English team when they play away from home after playing on doctored pitche and winning.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    100% agree with Gauti. That is why each nation plays the opposition twice - one series at home ( under home conditions that suit them due to exposure for years) & one series away. To be very objective, the only team that won decisively both home & away have been the great westindies teams of the 80's. No other team can be called even close. Bradman's invincibles times were different as they toured only england more & conditions akin to australia. The true mettle of a team is to perform well in all conditions. And am tired to hearing comments of the indian greats scoring high on so called 'flat belters'. Cmon the opposition also gets the same pitch - how many tall scores have the pontings, kallis, crowes, petersons etc scored in the subcon. Lets not take credit away from the indian big five , the sangas & mahelas , jayasuirya , zaheer abbas etc - based on this fallacy. there is nothing unfair of preparing pitches that ensure superior strength to home team. fairgo mate !

  • POSTED BY PAK-92 on | January 22, 2012, 22:23 GMT

    Gambhir should be calling for bouncy pitches in India so that their batsmen can gain exposure, so that next time they play away, they are not left embarrased

  • POSTED BY Harry_Kool on | January 22, 2012, 22:15 GMT

    @BestTeaminWold_India . if you want to quote facts, get them right please. Australia won in every country whilst on top. India has not win a series in SL since 1996, nor have they won in SA or Australia., How does that make them anywhere near the top? And the West Indoes., fyi,. didn't win in NZ. Shane Warne less trhan mediocre? He took 14 wickets in 3 tests @ 30 in 04/05 and was instrumental in setting up the 2 tests Australia won. Not too bad for a less than mediocre in Indian conditions I would suggest.

  • POSTED BY Hoppy21 on | January 22, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    Prepare the spinning tracks! We shall see their mantel strength and technique!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    Indian pitches are poor wickets that offer nothing to the bowlers. Actually, they are the worst in the world. Australian wickets turn more.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    Don't care what the pitch is as long as it creates competitve cricket between bat AND ball. I've been enjoying the pitches the Aussie groundsmen have been producing right from the series vs NZ. Also I must warn Gautam that Aussie and NZ especially can prepare MUCH greener pitches. So be careful of what you wish for ;)

  • POSTED BY leggetinoz on | January 22, 2012, 21:37 GMT

    What indians need to realise is the pitches they played on are really no different to the ones platyed against other teams like England and were not raging seamers or greentops. Perths bounce was true, Sydney has had much nastier pitches (think pakistan match). This shows the real problem of indian cricket. "We don't know how to play on theirs but wait till they got on ours". No other team seems to be so vocal about this. The others will quitely do their best and not complain.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 21:32 GMT

    My feeling is that he is having a small tantrum after not being able to score run of wickets that don't suit him... I do agree that there should be some sort of international standard for all tet pitches...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 21:30 GMT

    I dont understand the ire towards Gambhir for what he said. He didnt say we lost to Oz or Eng because we dont have spinning wickets at home. He is saying the wickets in IND should favor spinners at least as much as wickets in Eng and Oz have favored the pacers. I dont think there is any excuse for the way Ind have batted in this series. For all the people quoting stats of how Aus and SA have performed in Ind, they have been better all round teams in the past than Ind have but if Ind pitches were always rank turners those records might be far worse than they are now. BCCI made sure we had flat wickets to ensure 5 days of cricket so there is no lost ad revenue. I dont think the ECB and CA are motivated by the same reasons.

  • POSTED BY spinkingKK on | January 22, 2012, 21:23 GMT

    Nothing wrong in what Gambhir said. Gambhir never said they can't win in seaming conditions as indicated by Sidharth Monga. I am in full support of rank turners in India. I also support bowling tracks in any country. Bowling tracks makes the test cricket interesting. Otherwise, it is very boring when the batsmen keeps scoring all the time. Turning tracks are India's strength and the curators should have no hesitation in making one every time. However, in India, lots of politcs gets into this and some of the venues will make the pitch to suit the visitors deliberately. I can quote an incident in 2004 Australian series when Sharad Pawar-controlled Nagpur presented a Greentop to suit the Australian attack. For those of who wants the Indian batsmen to be better players of pace, India need to make bouncy pitches for the domestic competetion.

  • POSTED BY thephill on | January 22, 2012, 21:22 GMT

    surely all nations should be looking to produce wickets that offer something to everyone. Pace and movement on the first day, good for batting on days 2 and 3, and then turn on the last 2 days. I think thats what the curators have produced in this series, but unfortunatley the indians have been able to last 5 days for us to find out.

  • POSTED BY KiwiPom on | January 22, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    Ghambir gives me another shot at mentioning my hobby horse. 4th & 5th day test pitches. The worst thing that's happened to test cricket in the last 50 years is the increased durability of test pitches. The orthodox finger spinner has virtually been eliminated from the game as a result. Ghambir is partially right IMO but the solution is not for India to produce "rank turners"; it's for everyone else to prepare wickets that deterorate on the final day or two.

  • POSTED BY m.yousaf on | January 22, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    I think India are finding excuses for their horrible show away from home. You go out to tour which means you are not going to get what you have in your own backyard. India performed much better in the previous tours they made to Aus or Eng. The conditions havent changed, its just that their batting has horribly failed! regarding pitches in India, when was the last time a team won a series in India, (Australia i think) but it is rare. Teams like Eng, Aus n SA do show up a fight even if the conditions are not suitable. The 7 defeats have mentally beaten India. They need to regroup...

  • POSTED BY willmot on | January 22, 2012, 21:16 GMT

    Play at home for at least 2 years Prepare slow flat turning wickets Ensure either Bangladesh/Zimbabwe/New Zealand And Become number 1 again...Easy!!!

  • POSTED BY Dr.Vindaloo on | January 22, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    All very well for GG to say that but who exactly is going to roll visiting teams over on these 'raging turners'? Fact is that India don't have an Ajmal or a Murali, nor no longer a Harbhajan. In era of neutral umpires they don't even have the Swarup Kishans who used to give every bat pad or LBW that Indian spinners asked for. So let India prepare turners and see what happens!

  • POSTED BY Abhimanyu on | January 22, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    GREAT article! Gambhir is absolutely right!! Hands down to him for saying this, this guy certainly got the guts to say what he wants. Sidharth Monga, I think this is the only reason why he said this "Gambhir is also understandably annoyed at how easily the turning tracks are labelled "disgraceful" by the media and the ICC", I completely agree!!!

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | January 22, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    i'll bet ya england do not lose 7 tests in a row, 4 by an innings, on the sub continent this year. so after watching india this year NOWAY will india whitewash england may not even win the series, now pakistan thats a different kettle of fish.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    I can see merit in Gambhir's statement, though I agree that a world beating team should be able to play in ALL kinds of conditions-look no further than the dominating West Indies team of the 70s and 80s- they were unbeaten for 15 consecutive years, a world record for ANY team sport!

    Let's face it, we are a lazy bunch of people when it comes to test cricket! We don't have the intensity to last long in test matches; that's why shorter formats are much more preferred in the sub-continent because they are quicker and easier for Indian players to handle!

    Having someone as narrow minded as N Srinivasan will also not help India in the long run. So Indians should just be happy if we keep winning the World Cup every four years!

  • POSTED BY Desihungama on | January 22, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    Yeah Gambhir may be right in suggesting that but does anyone know what India's bowling strenght is? India has had turning-flat tracks since the time of Maharaja's. Isn't it time to try curate fast bouncy tracks to at least give bowlers a fare share in the fame?

  • POSTED BY lamek on | January 22, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    This is so disgraceful/irresponsible it will haunt Gambir and India for years. Each time India win/Gambir bats well at home, people will bring this up; each time they lose abroad people will bring this up. It won't go away soon. The comment is full of many underlying messages, all not positive. For example, one can infer that he believes India will never do well on bouncy tracks; Gambir lacks faith in India's fast bowling unit; Indian batting is not good enough on these tracks. To be honest, I wouldn't be too proud of a statement like this if I were Indian. This is a classic instance why perhaps only the captain should talk to the media.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 20:59 GMT

    I agree with Gauti that the world needs to take note of certain things when judging a top bowler or batsman in conditions that do not suit said players. It is more than understandable that he is pissed off that India's tracks are deemed unplayable even if there is the slightest bit of turn. Thing is though Gauti, it works both ways. You need to make runs in an environment that doesn't suit you to be rated a world class batsman, especially when you are playing for a country that strives to be the number one TEST MATCH team in the world. You have got a couple of good starts but have not pushed on when your country so dearly needed you. I have faith and feel this overseas TEST MACH period is going to be the hugest blessing in disguise to us. Prepare bouncy Ranjit tracks and turning TEST MATCH wickets at home FFS.

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | January 22, 2012, 20:50 GMT

    Gambhir just lashing out at all the deserved criticism of this batting lineup and questions about his competence. What India need is for more youngsters to go play in first class leagues in Eng and Aus. Maybe if he had spend some time playing county cricket instead of counting his IPL riches, Gambhir would do more than provide complimentary slip practice when playing outside India.

  • POSTED BY inthebag on | January 22, 2012, 20:50 GMT

    Do Indians think that they are the centre of all cricket so everything that happens anywhere in the cricket world is about them? Apart from Melbourne which is a drop-in these are traditional Australian pitches. We had a few years of flat decks and boring Tests so they are getting back to the way they used to be. Sydney is getting back to its old self - green early, flatten out, turn later. Perth is hard and bouncy, had some problems this time because of the heat and the cracks so they had to get some water on it. Adelaide will be a normal Adelaide deck, green early flatten out after that. India surrendered in Perth only to see Warner slaughter them that afternoon on the same deck. These are good, balanced pitches that create a tough contest for cricketers who can handle it. Maybe if the soft Indians changed their attitude and did the same they'd develop some spine. The 'wait till we get to India' whinge shows that they have already given up. Pathetic.

  • POSTED BY ajmal1988 on | January 22, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    Very defensive attitude from Gambhir! with that population you should be able to gather two different teams, one for seaming condtions and one for home conditions. with 54000 runs in the lineup, an indian fan living abroad (England, Australia, SA etc) would expect the line-up to put up 300+ and last for more than 3 days. I don't think that's too much to ask for , especially for a team that wants to be number 1 in the world and likes to cry out loud about it.

  • POSTED BY lamek on | January 22, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    I am not an Indian or Australian supporter. My 2 cents:

    Gambir's suggestion's is this: if you have a problem, do not find a solution; avoid it. Or that if you have a problem away, ignore that; just make sure your home conditions really support you. A couple of points to note: 1. The pitches in India already support slower bowling. I am not sure much more can be done to make this more apparent without actually making the pitches substandard for international cricket. 2. Good teams, great players are made when they master playing in all conditions. When a team prospers in its home conditions only, tags such as 'home bullies' are well earned. 3. When faced with a challenge, brave souls fight to find a way to overcome it. In this case, it could be spending time playing county/club cricket abroad. India does not necessarily have to prepare green tops. A coward's solution is to run away from the problem in the near future, only to fall again the next time another chance presents itself.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 22, 2012, 20:40 GMT

    SRI LANKA RECENTLY CHASED DOWN 300 TWICE IN SA & ALL THEIR BIG GUNS HAD COME IN FORM . INDIA SHOULD FORGET ABOUT TEST SERIES & THINK ABOUT ODI SERIES . ARE WE GOOD ENOUGH TO COMPETITE WITH AUS & SL IN ODIS WITH THIS TYPE OF ATTITUDE WHICH OUR PLAYERS LIKE KOHLI , GAMBHIR HAS SHOWN ????

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 20:39 GMT

    Very correct gambhir. Come play on spinning track and Show you can bat or bowl The final frontier is here See how australians batted at Bombay in 2005 Nothing great Aussies and english beating indaia In you'd own dens Grass is foe cows Make clay pitches Play spin Play spinners

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 20:38 GMT

    ICC should take the charge on pitch they should make the fair pitch for all the test matches

  • POSTED BY Himad on | January 22, 2012, 20:33 GMT

    Disappointing to the least!!! Ghambir's comments sounds like the words of a badly defeated man. He is happy with few wins at home on rank turners and is okey with losing outside india on green/bouncy wickets. I would never want someone like him in my team and this kind of mentality in a senior player is not going to instill any fighting spirit in the next generation of Indian batsmen. I think Ghambir should learn something from Prior, who after being badly defeated by resurgent Pakistan is considering it a slap in the face and is preparing for the next test hoping they may be able to turn the tables on them. I believe you just need a bunch of players who may still lose but are not shy of giving their best whenever and wherever they may play. Indian supporters also need to grow up here as you just don't want to support a team that only wins at home and then let you face the shame of being whitewashed everytime they board a plane.

  • POSTED BY Vishal_07 on | January 22, 2012, 20:33 GMT

    @Sidharth Monga: "You would expect better from a team that wants to be the best in the world". Why would you say that? A team that is best in the world should still prepare pitches which gives a home advantage to their bowlers and batsmen, whether you win or lose in the away matches. Simple as that. Look at where the English cockiness is now once they lost a match in spinner friendly conditions.

  • POSTED BY yoohoo on | January 22, 2012, 20:32 GMT

    @likeintcricket - WI of the 80s I agree. Aus of the 90s not so much really - they never won a test series in India. And this is considering the fact that most 90s and 00s india has been producing only flat pitches and not the rank turners of the 60-80s. Against spin Aus, Eng, SA and NZ have always been technically suspect. Even Ponting has 1 Century and 5 50s ONLY in india in the last 16yrs!! (and 3 of those 50s were made last year on absolute flat tracks)!.

    So, yes, I completely agree with Gautam & Dhoni on this point. If winning overseas is the gold standard, then why do people want to make it easy for some and tough for the others?

  • POSTED BY sircarl on | January 22, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    It must warm the hearts of the Australians to hear this type of loser talk. Gambhir's body is in Australia but his mind has already wrapped up the series and returned home. LOLL. This is the type of attitude that I'm convinced will cause the BCCI in the future to bully the ICC to make other countries prepare rank turners in their own countres!! Mark my word...

  • POSTED BY KricketWicket on | January 22, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    I totally agree with Gauti. In fact there is nothing new or wrong in what he has said. Azar started the trend of producing rank turners and Ganguly continued with it. That is when India became truly unbeatable at home. Off late the Indian pitches have been too kind to foreign teams, but we must now go back to before and produce rank turners. To those who say that such an approach will mean that we will never win overseas, I say, not true. Under Ganguly, we may not have won overseas, but we did fairly well. I think the last two overseas performance has been poor more for the lack of preparation than for our weakness against pace alone. That said, rank turners doesn't mean foreign teams will crumble like we are doing now, but it will definitely mean home advantage well and truly with India. That is a must and every team does it.

  • POSTED BY arunkumar_s6 on | January 22, 2012, 20:25 GMT

    Agree with Ghambir. Why can't it be a frustration when everybody has their home advantage, why should not India have their home advantage when playing home games??

    First of all India has to stop playing this much of overseas tests and start playing home series. Look at every country, they are all playing most of their series in home and just a two or three away series for a year. But India are playing totally the opposite. One or two series in India and remaining all are overseas. If the English, Australian and South African conditions are testing us, then why can't we test them with our conditions? I am sure Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand and West Indies can never win a game in India if India has a spin track.

    Come on guys. It's time to make that happen. Get this to selectors and especially BCCI and make it happen.

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | January 22, 2012, 20:16 GMT

    (1) There are no "good" surfaces and "substandard" surfaces. It is the colonial bias that makes the SAs, Aus, Eng to whine interminably about dust bow and substandard pitches. (2) The key for Indians to do well abroad is to play their domestic matches on alien surfaces, not their test matches. So preparing what the visitors are challenged by is the way to go -- rank turners for SA, Eng, Aus makes complete sense. (3) Have bowling depth for every condition or India will not win abroad. Simple as that.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | January 22, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    Stop making excuses...if you can't face the heat, retire! And take that Flat Track Bully - Viru - with you. We want India to be No. 1 in test cricket. To become no. 1 you have to win on all kinds of surfaces. If you can't perform, get out and let the youngsters play. They are hungry to prove themselves and at this point, much better batsmen than all of you oldies - Viru, Gauti, SRT, VVS and Dravid. If a bowler like Ashwin can bat on these pitches - there's something really wrong with our front line batsmen. Except Kohli, all of them need to be DROPPED.

  • POSTED BY m_ilind on | January 22, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    Gambhir has forgotten the likes of Swann, Ajmal, Vettori, or the SL spinners who can rip thru the Indian batting line up. Frankly, we don't have a spinner of that caliber, after Kumble retired.

  • POSTED BY lakx_s on | January 22, 2012, 20:05 GMT

    @Potatis, FYI IND aren't preparing pitches to suit their bowlers, they are preparing pitches the way they have since before independence. Everyone knows what to expect of IND, SL, PAK, BAN and some WI pitches, that the team who has real skills is the team that wins, the pitch itself is only a small part of the equation anywhere. Even on fast pitch it is the team with bigger faster bowlers which wins. WI, and NZ are not good sides and Eng have just started winning. Aus and SA win on just so called sporting pitches in any country. They will lose on even turning pitch at home, if one such pitch is prepared. Asia has four teams and WI and nuetral venues also have some turning pitches, so more test pitches are turning pitches, most importantly above 90% of fans are from places with turning pitches, so 90% of the revenue. When you have such fanbase and money, any sport you play is the best sport and you are the best in it. Just look at baseball which is the US version of cricket.

  • POSTED BY Anwaar-Sandhu on | January 22, 2012, 20:04 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir!!! this is whats been happening for ages..... asian teams preparing spinning tracks for opponents while others preparing green tracks for us.... you have not said anything new by the way, but yes, asians have found criticism in any way, 1. for preparing such pitches in their own backyard, 2. not being able to play outside. dont usually see the other way around :-) but yes, play to ur strength is the right way to go at home, but it is not an excuse for ur failure outside

  • POSTED BY dnarmstrong on | January 22, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    So strange that he's not talking about Adelaide, and strictly Adelaide with a another test two days away. They've given up regaining any dignity here, where does the BCCI think that winning every game at home is gong to get them? They're a joke.

  • POSTED BY SanjivAwesome on | January 22, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    There appears merit in Gambhir's comments. See how the Eng are faring against Pak in a non-home game. And how Eng struggled against India earlier, and how India struggled against Eng a bit earlier. ICC should perhaps start standardising pitches - or scrap the world no 1 ranking idea as every one is a no. 1 at home!

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | January 22, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    i m noy a big fan of brad haddin, the aussie cricket board should consider banning the position of wictkeeper for tours to australia. i also think that groundsman around oz should prepare the pitches to get more swing in the air, also i would like some lines painted on the pitch so when india visit they will know weather to play forward or back etc and the bowlers would then know where a good length was, also because it gets hot in summer we could play at night and keep it to around ah say 20 overs

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:41 GMT

    India already do this whats he on about?

  • POSTED BY lakx_s on | January 22, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    One man's food is another man's poison. A SPORTING wicket for Aus is not a sporting wicket for the Indians. Indians consider the turning wickets a sporting wicket, which means a wicket(for spinners) and runs for players with very fine skills.

    The big and tall Aussie is the definition for a bully, blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker Indians. There is not much cricketing skills and techniques involved on fast and bouncy tracks, just bigger and stronger bowlers and batsmen who leave anything outside off-stump and play very limited shots.

    Never seen a short and skinny fast bowler, so stop comments about fast pitch skills and technique and flat pitch bullies, its just the physique, on the contrary you need real skills on turning pitches.

    Wonder why Aussies do not train to challenge Jamaican sprinters instead of training for swimming golds. Its the physique, they know they cannot physically match the Jamaicans.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:38 GMT

    gautam you must be out of ur mind, these statements should not come from an opening batsmen. Pakistan beated england and australia on there home ground but what happened to India? your statement proves one thin that you guys can only play good cricket in india against weak teams like west indies and Bangladesh. If you can not adjust on foreign pitches then u should go back to delhi and find a job as a chef. Its just s shame when these kind of statements comes from any opening batsmen. Sewag and gambir are only good to play in ipl and hit boundries to low level bowlers who can only bowl up to 127 kph

  • POSTED BY Stone-Aamir on | January 22, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    I think BCCI should make certain arrangements so that in future indian pitches can travel with Indain team for all tours. So that their batsmen will only play on indian pitches and will not get home sick in the middle of a foreign tour.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    This is typical myopic thinking that has led India to be a laughing stock on many a overseas tour. One has to have a sense of balance between what will win today's match and the tactics to do so, and what is required as a strategy for winning all over the world. Getting blatant turners in India(as if they were not already that) will only make India less able to win matches outside the sub continent.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:27 GMT

    While is is perfectly fine, I don't like the attitude. Has he every made a sincere attempt to go play county cricket on fast wickets?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    It seems quite embarrassing actually. Gambhir is almost saying that our pace bowlers are useless. So aussies have green pitches, but we took fast bowlers with us too, didn't we? Why didn't they make any use of that. Its the quality of those bowlers which has undone us. And I guess if gambhir was ever to be chosen captain in india for a test he probably would pick 5 spin bowlers, y do we need pace we got turning tracks, ain't that right?? But what happens when Pakistan or Sri Lanka arrive?? I guess we wud be digging the tracks, wudn't we?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:21 GMT

    to be fair its a bit of an over reaction. indian pitches are always spin friendly. comments like this will not allow india to overcome its recent difficulties its more like burying your head in the sand.

    They have Yadav and need to build an attack round him as he has a lot of potential.

  • POSTED BY 07sanjeewakaru on | January 22, 2012, 19:18 GMT

    Remmember the Galle pitch.ICC could't bear it.But Capetown they did.But If India were to produce spinning tracks.Sure they will accept it.You know ICC=~BCCI.But beware young India =Flattrack bullies.Not the spinning masters.Even India have't a great Spinner.So It may be backfire.

  • POSTED BY tahir989 on | January 22, 2012, 19:18 GMT

    From a Pak cricket fan from Sub Continent.............. I like to see India nick one out here and would be a double treat to see Sachin making his 100th ton............... I for sure be chanting India all the way .................. Sri Lanka came back strong today on the last ODI against SA............ We mauled Eng on the first test ...... India upsetting Australia would now be a cherry on top of the pie.................. I take it as Sub Continent against the Rest............... Come on India ......... come on Sachin........

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    Absolutely agree Gauti bhai. Its our strength. And for ppl who say Indian spinners are not good enough we will see. These average indian spinners are more than enough for defeating Eng and Aus by innings.

  • POSTED BY Pro-CricketXpert on | January 22, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Rightly said but i think no. 1 status should stay with test nation capable of pulling off at every kind of track.........a frustrated comment i guess from gambhir. He shouldn't be saying this on record even if he has such stuff in his mind ...........its a bit weaker response as he represents a big nation.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    Spot on @Kaze..

    "This is a wonderful idea, teams visiting will simply learn to play spin better, but India will be stuck not knowing to play pace properly."

  • POSTED BY Saket_Goel on | January 22, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    Not a very good comment. This is negative thinking and this proves that in our minds we lost the battle much before we landed on the field. How can an opening batsman even think like this when the series is still going on? If he is thinking this way then he needs advice from Psychologists.

    There is no harm in preparing turning tracks in India. Cricket allows us to tailor the pitches as per the wish of the home team. Just make sure we have quality spinners to bowl opposition out.

  • POSTED BY noplay on | January 22, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    "...and that's where we would get to know whether they are mentally strong..." Glad to know Gambhir considers himself to be mentally weak. These cricketers talk too much

  • POSTED BY monu84 on | January 22, 2012, 19:02 GMT

    I am not agreed with Sidharth Monga, Gambhir is totally right. In India even England always struggled. Curators should now be reactive to the Gambhir's Comment, and they should prepare turner pitches, so that India becomes eligible to downgrade England's no 1 spot, and Australia's overconfidence.

  • POSTED BY Supa_SAFFA on | January 22, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    I think SA has enough spin options to take on India at home. Imran Tahir, Johan Botha, Robin Petersen, Faf du Plessis and even JP Duminy are names I would rate higher than the current crop of Indian spinners. Add in some quality SA batsmen who can handle spin, and a handful of players who perform in the IPL in India year after year... and the knowledge that SA defeated India in their home world cup... and the fact that the Indian batsmen are way past their prime... and the low crowd support in India. I can't think of any reason why India should be favourites to win in their own country.

  • POSTED BY S.Jagernath on | January 22, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    Gambhir is trying 2 make excuses for the fact that he struggles away from home,he is using this to prevent getting dropped.His attitude suggest he isnt a real competitor.Home advantage is important but if a team cannot adapt to foreign conditions,they can never truly be the best.

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | January 22, 2012, 18:48 GMT

    Leaving aside Ghambir's wish for the brown, brown dust of home, he and everyone connected with cricket needs to accept that there is such a thing as a perfect test match wicket. Its character: on day one for the first session there is movement and help for the quicker bowlers. By mid-afternoon and through day 2 and into day 3 it should favour batsman, but still have something in it to keep the bowlers interested. By day 4 it should be offering distinct encouragement to the spinners who must expect to collect more wickets than their seamer brothers at this stage in the match. Ghambir only sees matters from his perspective and, for an opening batsman, I find his opinion truly revealing. Clearly he does not regard batting out of his comfort zone as a challenge to be met and overcome - rather he sees it as quite beyond him. Well, with that attitude, what is he doing on tour? Come to that, what's he doing in the side? Imagine a batsman from another country complaining as he has! Pls publish

  • POSTED BY GravyMon on | January 22, 2012, 18:47 GMT

    This one really throws me for a bit of a loop. It would be laughable if it didn't quite reflect the depth of confusion and despair in the Indian camp right now. Why would Gambir want a rank turner of a pitch in India? I could see that working against one current team only, the West Indies. I am pretty sure that the likes of Swann, Panesar, Ajmal, Vettori, Herath and Price would quite welcome the opportunity to enhance their career numbers. Muralitharan and Warne could even be tempted to come out of retirement.

    I truly don't see this working in India's favor. Non-Indian batsmen play spin far better than their Indian counterparts play pace on quick bouncy wickets. Gambir has to face the fact that Indian batsmen do have flaws in their technique. Flaws, which can be exploited overseas away from those 'dead' Indian tracks, and flaws, which could be more exposed on rank turners. The off the cuff comment brings the image of an Indian ICC Test ranking of 5, clear into my viewfinder.

  • POSTED BY RightArmLightningFast on | January 22, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir needs to stop coming up with lame excuses because even these teams (AUS, ENG, SA) come and play on his beloved "rank turners". they still show a lot of fight if not win the matched convincingly. whereas on the other hand gambhir and CO fold like a deck of cards. I cant understand gambhir's frustration as the highest average of the indian batsman on this tour is no more than 25 if iam correct. Grow Some BALLS you midget and atleast show some fight in the middle. please stop poking at away deliveries like a little girl.

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | January 22, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    What Gambhir calls for? We already have 3 forms of international crcicket. Does he want to make it 4? I mean 2 types of Tests + ODI + T20. There must be standards to promote good Test Cricket. We want to watch good cricket. It is not about which team winning. Fast and Bouncy wickets help cricket turning out good. Cricket on Indian wickets is boring simply because of its slowness. Cricket inharently is slow; spinners and medium pacers make it even slower and boring. Any outdoor game's appeal depends primarily on its dynamism; fast bowlers and fast scoring batsmen supported by pacy wickets bring excitement to cricket; a spinner could add variation but not more; 3 Warnes bowling won't be exciting. On Laxman's retirement too Gambhir aired a silly opinion. How come did he become an international crciketer with this level of intelligence? Sehwag too is so unintelligent.

  • POSTED BY Hamidf on | January 22, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    If Ghambir is right and for the moment let us assume that there might be an India Pakistan test series played in India then what India would do. Pakistan have world beater spinners and world class pace bowlers. How are they going to handle them. For the sake of cricket, let us have sporting wicket like we just had in Dubai

  • POSTED BY ggsg on | January 22, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    Mr Kevin jong barring these series most of our top batters have played good in aus heres a stat Tendulkar played 19 test 36 inn 4 N.O 1771 run scored 241* hs 55.34 ave 6-100's, 7-50's. Laxman played 14 test 27inn 1 N.O 1183 runs 178 hs 45.50 ave 4-100's 4-50's. Rahul dravid played 15 test 30 inn 4 N.O 1140 runs 233 hs 43.84 ave 1-100 6-50's.Sehwag played 10 test 20 inn 951 runs 195 hs 47.55 Ave 1311 ball faced 72.54 strike rate 2-100's 4-50's. I belive this was in 90's whenr aus domination was well known with greats like mcgrath, gillispe, warne steve, mark waugh hayden langer i hope u agree with me. past decade india has done well barring this series and the previous the famous claim catch by oz replay showed other wise, harbhajjan symond scandal and other controversy series). i believe visiting team has to face home team advantages that includes climate, pitch ground condition and fans and that makes it fascinating. So I agree with gambhir. Infact aussies never made spinning trac

  • POSTED BY adarshrulz on | January 22, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    agree wid shaun mac... i think indian youngsters shud go nd play county nd club cricket in eng.. to avoisd such devastating tours... bt its very unfortunate d BCCI dnt giveem a chance nd keep playing them in d iPL..sad

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Can only laugh at what he says. The Indian fans need to get rid of these folks. They really are not the right people to take the Indian cricket forward with. Don't treat the likes of Sachin, Gambhir and Sehwag above the game. They'll only do anything on dead wickets and create personal milestones. Gambhir doesn't even value sportsmanship. All this in the long term will leave the Indian cricket to suffer.

  • POSTED BY Juniorklassy on | January 22, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    Comnpletely agree with Gambhir.. well said..!! we are always accused when we prepare turners but no one says when SA / Eng n Aus prepare bouncy tracks....!!! if we r tested there why cant these teams be tested here.. !! if Aussies / England cant win a series here... they too shudnt be called as gr8 team, now many will say Aus won a series in India,but so has India i wud say, but for that 14 men Aussies team vs 11 men Indian team in Sydney 2007-8.. so..!! perfectly said Gambhir, now its upto BCCI to look into this matter .....!!! i hope they are listening to what Gambhis is saying!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    Yes, GG is right to an extent here. If seaming pitches are labelled as very good pitches then why so brouhaha over low, slow and turning pitches... there are always two sides of coin...u can't applaud one and disgrace the other....

    Indian batsmen have been found wanting in their desires to stick it on to wicket for long in the last 7 tests...and the technique/ temperament of Indians is suddenly talk of town...and when Ponting's Aussies were shot out for 93 chasing 107...there was so much criticism of the pitch by 'sporting' Aussies.

    Come on...GG u guys can do better than this...but u have DISAPPOINTED us for long...give us some good cricket and we'll back u all to have rank turners in India when these 2 teams visit.

  • POSTED BY adarshrulz on | January 22, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    ive always believed d bst team must be the one whicj can perform in differnt conditions, differrent pitches... dats why d mighty australians were d best.. at present NONE of the teams hv dat capability be it eng ind, aus, or sa... i truly agree each n every country is too desperate to beat ind at any cost so they prepare wickets acc. to there conditions if they cn then why nt d indians..??? itll be worth watcing their mental toughness in opposite conditions..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    @vik56in You are wrong too. :P Australia won that series under Glichrist, not Ponting.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    India will still be defeated, did not Gambhir realised all current leading spinners are not Indian, Do a Favour to India ,retire en masse with old brigade. You lot are well past sell by date. Give a chance to youngsters, they are the only hope for India.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Oh i remember the days when India USED to prepare rank turners. I remember one such series which occurred between India and England back in 1993. Kumble made a double century. Amre, SRT and Azhar all chipped in with runs. And India had a spinning trio of Kumble, chauhan and Raju. Probably before most peoples times but i will say that it was a turning wicket and Eng struggled. This was at a time when Indian batsman COULD ACTUALLY play spin!! prepare a turning wicket in India now and the Indian batsman will be undone by the spin also. They can't play spin that well.They have been batting on flat tracks for so long now they play spin acceptably well but nothing that makes them any better than anyone else.

  • POSTED BY umeshdeshmukh on | January 22, 2012, 18:14 GMT

    Well i am with Gambhir on this issue. When a curator creates a spinner friendly pitch in India he has to face criticism from everywhere. For me a batsman or a bowler has to prove himself in every given conditions. And history shows that top three teams SA,AUS & ENG had looked very ordinary while playing against top class spinners like bhajji,murli kumble on turning tracks in subcontinent.So they have no right to criticize subcontinent player's batting on grassy pitch.Every one is watching oz series in the past would know that their curators kept far much grass this time than before to support their team.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:11 GMT

    poor gambhir forget dat australia won test series in srilanka recently, southafrica bundled India on 76 nnd drawn series here,.. u cannot match aussie attitude dat never quit attitude.. they never lose like dis on any given pitch...

  • POSTED BY ShirazTarique on | January 22, 2012, 18:11 GMT

    If this is India's future, then I guess they have given up on the idea of being the number 1 team or a great team completely, sad day for Indian cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    This show how mentally down Ghambir is. It is not the time to talk abt how the pitches need to be prepared in India. He better concentrate on his batting in the next match. This sounds like he already decided that India going to loose the next test match,

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | January 22, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    I agree. Off-late we have been giving opposition teams relatively easier surfaces to bat on. We will need to make pure dust bowls to crush the English this November. If they can make Savannah Grasslands on their 22-yards we can make a thar desert on our 22! @vik56in The only time in the last 30 years that Aus beat India in India was in 2004. Brush up on your history before you post.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:06 GMT

    i don't think Gambhir would wamt spin wkts when Pakistan tours India

  • POSTED BY tahir989 on | January 22, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    From a Pak cricket fan from Sub Continent.............. I like to see India nick one out here and would be a double treat to see Sachin making his 100th ton............... I for sure be chanting India all the way .................. Sri Lanka came back strong today on the last ODI against SA............ We mauled Eng on the first test ...... India upsetting Australia would now be a cherry on top of the pie.................. I take it as Sub Continent against the Rest............... Come on India ......... come on Sachin........

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    As if being thrashed is not enough...at least you can sportingly acknowledge the superior performance from Oz in this series... Hope the whole of the Indian team is not thinking along the same lines and blaming the pitches for their woes. Team Indian obviously needs to look within themselves.. see what has changed since a very creditable draw in away series in SA 2011..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    Dumb statement. India is already winning at home with the tracks they currently prepare. He needs to concentrate on his cricket abroad.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | January 22, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    Given that Ind are certain to lose their aging players in both batting and bowling depts in the next 1 yr, I agree with Gautam that the only way to keep fans interested in Ind cricket is to prepare turning pitches. At least that way, Ind will remain competitive in test cricket. Now that Dhoni's ill acquired captaincy aura has been blown off, Gautam should be made Ind captain after Aussie tour.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    I dont care much about ICC rankings. At the moment, there is no dominant team like Australia or West Indies. Whoever wins abroad against a good quality team is the top team. England beat Aussies by 3-1. India is losing to the same opponent big time. That is the difference between a good team and a bad team.

  • POSTED BY Full-Blooded-Wallop on | January 22, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    In perfect Indian conditions i.e rank turners all teams of the world will struggle against even suresh raina's and sehwag's spin. And Sir Ravindra jadeja will be a nightmare for aussies and poms!

  • POSTED BY dissapointed on | January 22, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    After reading the comments there is one thing that people haven't mentioned. No other team has ever complained about losing in away conditions. These pitches in Australia are fairly typical and have less seam movement on average than what you'll get in NZ, slightly less pace than what you'd expect in South Africa etc. In India you expect low turning wickets but for Gambhir to request/direct for more is crazy. Maybe if this happens, and I'm sure the BCCI will ensure it does to please the fans, then all nations should produce concrete like pitches every time India tours... and again, I have never heard Sri Lanka or Pakistan complain, only and always is this India as they can never accept a clean defeat.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    To all those who are saying Pakistan cant play in Alien conditions of England and Australia. How can anyone forget Pakistan leveling off series with Australia in ENGLAND 2010(that was neutral venue assisting AUSSIES) ?? How can you guys forget we won a match against England and were in commanding position in 4th test when unfortunate incident happened ! Indians need to learn to fight rather then showing this ten year old's attitude. PEACE

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    as for pakistanies india is this decade whitewashed in england you have been whitewashed in austrlai 2 times india won atleast test matches in aus this decade pakistan has not even won a single test india won series in england pakies have just won one test pakistan are the most pathetic team from subcontinent they have habits of whitewash atleast india have played bad only last two series last test won by pak in sa 15 yrs ago india have won in their lats to tour test in sa

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    its a case of sour grapes for Mr Gambhir... Being from delhi, i am ashamed of feroz shah kotla pitch.. where the first ball of the first day in a test match struggles to reach keeper in one bounce... if he is referring to the current pitches in australia, i dont see anything too outrageous (like the ones against kiwiz in early 2000s) .. i wanna hear his theories about how a batsman from one side scores 300 while there is not even a century from other team... or how a tailender from indian team who has shown some application has the second highest average among indian batsmen (perhaps the pitch supports tailenders.. and we should play 11 of those)

  • POSTED BY Kachada1 on | January 22, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    C'mon Gambhir ... GROW UP! Unless YOU ask for green tops at HOME, you are NEVER going to learn to play on green tops. Asking for custom made strips cannot be truly sporting. Maybe the best way to resolve this is for the ICC to make all test tours a minimum of 3 tests, with each pitch being one that aids pace bowlers, one that aids spinners and one that is batsmen friendly. That would satisfy all? ... and, I say this as a disappointed Indian, we REALLY suck at facing genuine pace.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    This seems like a roundabout way of admitting that our current team is not good enough to win test matches overseas and thus the only way for us to restore balance in the longer format is preparing domestic pitches that overwhelmingly aid our spinners. With this Gambhir seems to have absolved himself and his colleagues of putting up any semblance of resistance against the aussie juggernaut in the remaining matches. The average Indian fan like me now has to wait for competitive teams like Eng, Aus and SA to tour India before I can pin any hopes on my team of justifying the title of 'no 1 test team the world' that they held till recently. It's better for players like Gambhir to channelize their efforts towards ODI and T20 formats which are more friendlier to their batting approach and hang their boots for the longer version of the game.

  • POSTED BY bombay4u on | January 22, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    Ghambhir has lost it, just admit that the technique and temprament were lacking on playing bowler who can move the ball a bit, i have not seen a dangerious fast wickets or bounce, its been the movement and thier lack of ability to leave the ball better along with allwoing other teams to dominate the proceeding and not attaching them. May be someone should tell Ghambhir to just shut up and score runs, every time he opens his mouth its not making any sence What will you do Ghambir when srilanka, pak or bangladesh who all have better spinners then india play in india ? we dont have Beshansing Bedi or Prassana in our team any more. With IPL and other leques, all foreign players have very good experiance in indian condision, so we dont have that advantage. I think the pitches should be sporting and they should support bounce and have grass in india with turn on 4-5 day that way you can learn to play in all conditions

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Is Gambhir somehow implying that India doesn't make pitches that suit themselves ? Simply no team in world cricket does that to the extant that India does it when others tour them. But I'm glad that they are thinking like that. I guess I won't have to put up with them being No.1 anytime soon.

  • POSTED BY AH_USA on | January 22, 2012, 17:11 GMT

    Indian fans are trying to justify spinning and dead tracks on their home grounds when they should really be asking why IND has not been able to produce quality pacers. The reason behind it could be that unlike their legendary battsmen, Gavasker, Sachin, Dravid, etc., there was no one to inspire the new genegation in the fast bowling department. I do not consider Kapil Dev as a high quality bowler and someone who could run through a quality batting lineup. Gambhir's comments pretty much sums it that IND can only win on dead or turning tracks. This can also backfire if a touring team has one or two quality spinners or if teams stop playing more than three tests in IND.

  • POSTED BY miltonabdh on | January 22, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    England, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa do not know how to play in turning wickets. They should prepare turning pitches in their country to practise on them. India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Bangladesh do not know how to play in bouncy wickets. They should prepare bouncy pitches in their country to practise on them.

  • POSTED BY rkannancrown on | January 22, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    The last line contains the punch line - turners are considered bad but pitches tailor made for fast bowlers are considered ok. However, Gambhir's comments reflect his frustration. Indian tactics are failing also because Dhoni is extremely defensive. In England, on seaming tracks, it was not unusual to see only a couple of close in fielders. At home against Windies, the field would be spread once the batsman hits a boundary. At Melbourne, Dhoni lost the plot when he did not attack when the Aussies were 40/4. Dhoni needs a lesson from Kanithkar who has led Rajasthan to successive Ranji titles despite having no established players. He can also spend some time with srikkanth who led India's weakest team totour Pakistan,played Pakistan's strongest ever team, suffered a series of bad umpring decisions and still the team returned nearly victorious. The present team also needs a coach who can do something - not this great grandfather called Fletcher who has one of poorest coaching records.

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | January 22, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    what is everyone talking about well i understand that india doesnt deserve to be number 1 but then who does england who hasnt beaten any subcontinent team in almost 15 years now except bangladesh or australia who couldnt beat england at home nor south africa at home they lost to both of them and newzealand which they could manage draw against i think rightfully it is only south africa that deserves to be the number 1 team in test cricket crickinfo please post

  • POSTED BY AH_USA on | January 22, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    The problem that IND needs to resolve is their inability to produce quality pacers. Until IND resolves this problem, they will most likely only win in their home games and not aborad. I am a PAK fan and we used to have the same problem where the cricket authorities would prepare batting and spinning tracks. But once Imran Khan came into the picture, the entire landscape changed and PAK started to build sporting tracks. Even though every now and then, PAK still prepares dead track but that trend has largely persisted over the decades because of pacers like Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib and the others. When India toured PAK in the 2000s, Irfan Pathan bowled well because of the quality of the pitches. I still remember Shewag scoring a double ton in Lahore because of the dead track but in the very next game in Karachi where there is always a movement, he fell cheaply in both innings. This is why I do not consider him a quality batsman.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    I think Gambhir is right we need to go back to our traditional model, Ojha, Ashwin and Bhajji and Zak for Indian conditions. We dont exactly have a Saeed Ajmal/Swann like spinner but these 3 guys are the best we have, Even Rahul Sharma might not be a bad choice. Every ground has 2 tracks right, make one bouncy and play matches with teams that have awesome spinners on that and play matches with WI/SA/Aus/Eng on the turning track

  • POSTED BY AussiDesi on | January 22, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    I don't see anything wrong in what Gambhir said unless you all think playing on 'rank turner' is legally not cricket. I am appalled by Sidharth Monga 'special' commentary. Throughout the history of sports home teams press for advantageous conditions at home, ther is nothing unusual about it. For some reason most Indian editors/supporter feel like they need to gain the respect of other overseas players and say things that are nothing but pandering.

  • POSTED BY asadabbas100 on | January 22, 2012, 16:51 GMT

    and comments by Gambhir are very disappointing. He should have admitted the failure and promised the fans that he and his team mates are working hard to win the last test.. Warner was right, they have already given up... very very disappointing

  • POSTED BY asadabbas100 on | January 22, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    Sachin Tendulkar has played 187 test matches, Rahul Dravid has played 163 test matches and Laxman has played 133 test matches... Even after such vast experience they are unable to post decent totals on bouncy tracks and find it difficult to adopt to different playing conditions, then I think India should stop playing test cricket and focus on one day and T20s only.. cricinfo plz pubilish

  • POSTED BY shamlaatu on | January 22, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    Last nail in the coffin!!! I think it's time that Cricket Australia calls an end to this "Father beating son" show called Border-Gavaskar trophy. And play some REAL TEST CRICKET by inviting Pakistan on yearly scheduled war of displaying test cricket skills under the banner of Imran-Lillee trophy. Fans yearn to watch some quality cricket.

  • POSTED BY Noboundary on | January 22, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    So childish! Preparing square turners is not such a great disadvantage any more for India. Many teams have equally good or equally bad spin talent... if Pakistan or Srilanka or even SA were to visit India and play on a square turner we will stop winning even at home! Also this will kill whatever little fast bowling talent India has now! Sachin, Gavaskar had no issues with high bounce or seam.. they played well against all opposition. The real problem is mental... batsmen no longer have the patience to stay put and build an innings...our batsmen don't move their feet and want all runs in boundaries! This coupled with age related decline have been the real reason behind our failures abroad.

  • POSTED BY basusri133b on | January 22, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Mr. Ghambir would be better off spending his time in the nets working on his technique or lack there of. More than that, it is distressing to note that he has lost the game in his head, this is harder to fix!! He is a defeated man.

    For argument sake even if we did fix our wickets at home,who may I ask is good enough to take 20 wickets a game? Our current number one spinner, bats better than he bowls.

    This article reflects very poorly on the mind set of our team.

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | January 22, 2012, 16:25 GMT

    what is everyone talking about well i understand that india doesnt deserve to be number 1 but then who does england who hasnt beaten any subcontinent team in almost 15 years now except bangladesh or australia who couldnt beat england at home nor south africa at home they lost to both of them and newzealand which they could manage draw against i think rightfully it is only south africa that deserves to be the number 1 team in test cricket

  • POSTED BY sashi94 on | January 22, 2012, 16:25 GMT

    When it comes to the Indian batting attack.. they say we cant bat in bouncy, swinging and seaming conditions. Our legends like Sachin, Dravid and Laxman have built their records on flat tracks unworthy of mention. Well, Your bowlers have bowled on tracks greener than a garden.. so use the same logic for the likes of Mcgrath, Lillee and etc. These guys have great number of wickets and excellent strike rates.. thanks to the wickets prepared.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    Gambhir, Sehwag, Tendulkar, et al's response to a sledge from the non IPL Aussies should be "you'll be pumping our gas when your playing days are over"!!!!!

    and if any of the Aussie IPL players sledge they should simply ask their owners to withdraw their contracts (or better still have a penalty clause that forbids them from sledging their IPL teammates)

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | January 22, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    and if no one really minds the turning tracks than why australia and england and southafrica haave complained to icc when given turning tracks i am sure no one has any explanation for that

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | January 22, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    what is everyone talking about well i understand that india doesnt deserve to be number 1 but then who does england who hasnt beaten any subcontinent team in almost 15 years now except bangladesh or australia who couldnt beat england at home nor south africa at home they lost to both of them and newzealand which they could manage draw against i think rightfully it is only south africa that deserves to be the number 1 team in test cricket

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | January 22, 2012, 16:18 GMT

    @billy_bilal: I find Gambhir's comment unprofessional, not befitting an Indian Tes cricketer. Many years ago Vijay Hazare scored a century in each innings for India at the Adelaide test against Bradman's team.Hazare was an amateur who lived on meagre wages from his job compared to millions that Gambhir earns today. A pro of today is much worse than an amateur of yerter year. Today's cricketers are grossly over paid for what they produce. So "Hot Air & excuses" is a cover to justify their incompetence. As far your question, who will turn the ball for India -There are plenty of them. Recently Ojha & Ashwin got 42 out of 60 wickets in 3 tests against WI in India. India has excellent wrist leg spinners in Rahul Sharma, A.Mishra & P.Chawla. None are included in present squad. If Dhoni & Fletcher are progressive, you may see Ojha/Ashwin duo at Adelaide.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    That's not a very strong comment from Gambhir. India lost the matches bcoz of there own faults.they had won matches in similar conditions in the past.in England,there were many issues like absence of players,fitness.so it's considerable to some extent that they lost there.but in Australia,they are totally outplayed by the kangaroos.but yes,it's true that when the teams like AUS,ENG,SA come to IND,they are going to face toughest challenges.though SA did quite well in subcontinent,but other teams had been in immense disaster in previous tours.in fact right now ENG(who are said to b the no.1 test team in the world at present) are looking like hopeless fellows against PAK.so right now no team is the right contender for the best team in tests.all are performing well in their home advantages.

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | January 22, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Prime example of why Gambhir is right to see what happening to the No.1 team in Dubai. ROFLMAO! (This is probbaly the first and last time im forcefully agree to Gambhir, even though i don't like him.) Sub-continent team dont last for 3 days on green tracks, and Green Track Bullies don't last for 3 days in Dubai. Enough said.

  • POSTED BY foursandsixes on | January 22, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Gambhir is at least partly right. India should prepare green tops for at least 50% of domestic matches and rank turners for 100% of internationals. This is war - you need to improve on your weakness and exploit your opponent's weakness!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    Jan 1992 An eighteen year rold kid named Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar walked on the fastest pitch called WACA for the first time to face some of the best in the business to name Craig McDermott ,Bruce Reid and Michael Whitney.He was not only facing chin music from the bowlers but also mind games ( sledging) from the close in fielders .At the end of the day the kid defied all odds by scoring a gallant 114 and won the hearts of both the Indians and the Australians.20 years have passed since but still no one would have heard Sachin whingeing about the green tops or even any kind of pitch for that matter . That is mark of a legend. It is a pity that a player like Gambhir has come out in the public to give thread bare excuses .I would not be surprised if India get thrashed mercilessly in the ODIs as the hunger to win abroad is just not there , first it was kohli , then ishant and now gambhir .May God save the Indian cricket team

  • POSTED BY kumarcoolbuddy on | January 22, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    One obvious example is so called brilliant ENG team who won against India in their own backyards lost to India in India and now to Pakistan in Dubai. Ofcourse ENG cannot win without psychological/mental drama, however this is not the point of discussion now. SL who is strong in their backyards is losing to SA misreably. What is this proving then? I agree once upon time there were two teams called AUS and WI but why don't we talk about current teams. I absolutely agree that Indian team has failed in AUS. So I am not supporting Gambhir or Indian team but I am talking about virtual greatest teams like ENG, AUS and home advantage. ENG and AUS are most senseless in regards to their attitude.

  • POSTED BY ahweak on | January 22, 2012, 16:07 GMT

    I agree with Gambhir 100%, though we need to prepare sporting tracks in India to help groom fast bowlers, we should not give up the advantage of turning tracks. It has become fashionable for England, Australia and SA to complain about pitches that do not assist fast bowlers. Everytime one of these teams get bundled out on a turning track, everyone and their brother including the ICC start investigating. The English particularly like to put down every thing sub-continental and if anyone point it out, then they brush it off as post colonial hangover. India must learn to bat in seam friendly conditions abroad and maintain its turning tracks at home for visitors.

  • POSTED BY avas on | January 22, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    I totally agree with Gambhir. Infact after seeing how English batsmen performed against spin in their first test with Pakistan... i would want Pakistan to give them real turning tracks in the next two test and really test their Test No. 1 status

  • POSTED BY jameswayne on | January 22, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    The way this Indian team are playing their cricket, they will get slaughtered on any surface.

  • POSTED BY Desihungama on | January 22, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    Unbelievable I am hearing these comments from Indian opening batsman Gambhir. This is how defeat would have sounded if it talked. Off subject because it's all connected. Attack on Sri Lankan team and ensuring Pakistan will not host the WC semi final match or any other match for that fact. Do you guys seriously think if the semi final was in Lahore, India would have won that game? Everyone wans to next next Amir, Zaheer, Brett Lee and not the Tendulakars and Dravid's.

  • POSTED BY gyrase on | January 22, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    He is already right. Now we cannot play pace and we are losing good spinners and batsman who can play spin on spinning tracks.In every zone there should be two fast tracks and two spinning tracks. Every player should be judged on their performances on these tracks.It is as simple as that but who will do this. BCCI doe snot have time and does not care.

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | January 22, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    With that mind set, Gambhir must just the guy you want in your dressing room on tour! Truly great batsman regard conditions out of their comfort zones as a challenge to be overcome; this would appear not be the case in this instance. Now, if an English batsman was having a tough time in, say, India, and his opinion was aired in this manner, my reaction would be: what are you doing on this tour? Get over it and get on with it, because that type of negativity will get you and the side nowhere. Furthermore, the rider to this would be, (for my theoretical English player on tour, you understand): you have shown your hand. There is no reason why you should be considered for selection again, home or away. There should be a book written on what makes a good tourist, I think, with submissions from all test playing countries. Chapter 1's title: Adapting to Conditions; Chapter 2: Keeping your Spirits up when the Going's Tough. Ch 3: Supporting your Side (even when you're playing badly), etc.

  • POSTED BY dockhaul4 on | January 22, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    really sad to hear this from some one who has still a few years to play for India. i think its not fir for players to demand what they like but its for them to play and prove themselves where ever and what ever the conditions and pitch nature might be. thats what they are meant to do rather than telling others what are their specialties??

  • POSTED BY cric7 on | January 22, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    @Kevin Jong, So you have just admitted that Aus/SA/ENG's batting line up is rubbish at facing high quality SPIN bowling on pitches where the ball turns greater or spins off the ground and that to win tests they need to play on crazy bouncing pitches at home. If you are good at High Quality Fast Bowling and PACY pitches; We are good at High Quality SPIN Bowling and Turners. There is no debate.

  • POSTED BY playitstraight on | January 22, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    I can understand Gambhir and his pain but you can't prepare "rank-turners" just because you are good at playing it, because then there is absolutely nothing for the fast bowlers. No wonder Ishant "wicketless" Sharma doesn't take any wickets, it's because the pitch is set up for spinners. Which explains why Ashwin was able to take 22 wickets from 3 Tests vs WI.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    POTATIS SPOT ON EXCLLENT MATE, U HAVE HIT BULLS EYE THERE , SPOT ON LILLIAN THOMSON ,UR PROVING MY POINT WE LOST A HAND FUL OF SERIES IN 1980s AND ONE SERIES SINCE 2000 ARE U UNDERSTANDING ONE SERIES IN 11 YEARS THT TOO WITHOUT RANK TURNERS

  • POSTED BY zeppos on | January 22, 2012, 15:36 GMT

    Sorry Gautam your comments are certainly not what most Indians want to hear. Looking ahead we would much rather have a talented, well-trained team that grows stronger with experience in all conditions. Relying on tricky pitches is for cowards.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 15:36 GMT

    TO ALL MY JEALOUS CRICKET FANS SINCE 2000 WE HAVE LOST ONE HOME SERIES IF I AM NOT WRONG AND I THINK 3 or 4 TEST MATCHES SO I ACCEPT NOW WE HAVE OLD GRANDPAS SO WE R STRUGGLING ABROAD BUT ONLY THSI YEAR WE PLAYED WELL LAST TEN YEARS

  • POSTED BY NairUSA on | January 22, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    It is a no brainer that India should prepare rank turners when englanders and aussies visit. Indian supporters would like to see no less than a reverse whitewash. At the same time, India should train their batsmen by preparing some local 'cow pastures' so that they can play in them when they visit these farm lands.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    @hammond hv u evr seen any team outside Asia playin in galle or mumbai & posting a mammoth score?If not, its bcz it nvr happend! The pitches like galle and wankhede r ridiculed by non-asian teams as they cant play on dem, but these non-asian teams dont utter a word wen they get out for 47 & 96 on a newlands pitch..well ds is wht i call hypocrisy!If u dont believe it..take a luk at Dubai test whr england ws dusted inside 3 days agnst pak & dt too on a pitch,wch ws a flat track..cricinfo please publish

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 15:22 GMT

    Well I reckon there's no shame in making favourable wickets for the home side as tht's exactly wat is termed as home advantage. So here i agree with Gambhir in one aspect that they will be allowed to make big turners(which actually they do, so dont knw why he is saying tht) but on the other hand he is crying n blaming Ozs for making seamer friendly wickets which is infact affirms his point tht a home side shall take full home advantage. So if a team wants to b no.1 n remain no.1 then they have to win every where regardless of the conditions. So Gambhir instead of complaining admit that u guys are not no.1 Test side.

  • POSTED BY lee_man on | January 22, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    I agree that home teams should prepare pitches to suit their strengths, however all pitches must be of good quality. I think in the past teams have complained when from day one the pitches start crumbling. The best teams,though are expected to win under any playing condition, a la Windies of the 80's.

    I also agree with the notion that away wins should count more towards the IIC ranking than home wins.

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | January 22, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    I wanted nothing more than to see India do well in Austalia ,but needless to say I am terribly disappointed ,but not totally surprised , by the out-come . Your spinners had their way with West Indies batsmen ,who couldn't or wouldn't play a sweep shot to Ashwin in particular ,to men placed on the wicket in their pockets ; however ,this same Ashwin was a '' persona non grata'' down under .You dared not put those men in those precarious positions . My point is you played a real test team ,with great batsmen and not a team in transition like the West Indies are .

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    Somebody needs to be judge of how these runs are scored from all these so called great batsmen. Runs scored on green pitches and rank turners should be rated more than flat tracks where u can hit trough the line.

  • POSTED BY RichDeGroen on | January 22, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    Mongia, you're one of the best comments men on Cricinfo these days. Keep it up. And to Gambhir - I agree on both counts. You are terrible against the moving ball. And, I would love to see rank turners in India once more. The more variety and intrigue in pitches around the world, the better for the game. I never think of a turning track as disgusting. On the contrary, the pitches in India, and Sri Lanka too, over the last several years HAVE been disgusting. Totally dead tracks, not helpful for ANY bowler to take wickets on. 500 plays 550 for 5/dec. often 5 or 6 meaningless centuries in a single match. I watched Harbajahn Singh bowling helplessly on a dead track for 2 days as NZ(!) a team of the worst batsmen in world cricket, piled up 500+ on their last tour. The even got to declare for once. Lets see some turn and bounce!

  • POSTED BY BnH1985Fan on | January 22, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    It is heartening to see that several Indian fans acknowledge that Gambhir's comments are quite immature. There seems to be a general acceptance that comments stem more from the team's frustration in it's inability to apply themselves in adverse conditions (both in batting and bowling). Fans expect and deserve better from a "national" team. Time to look at other players to replace the whiners -- these new players can't do any worse than the "legends" India currently has in its ranks.

  • POSTED BY manish19902008 on | January 22, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    i think gambhir is right india should prepare turning tracks

  • POSTED BY ChuckyDoll on | January 22, 2012, 15:03 GMT

    Gambhir, just focus on the task at hand! You still have a 4th Test to prepare for. If you have given up on the 4th test, then step down and let someone else play in your place. Seriously, dude, haven't you recovered from you concussion yet ?

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | January 22, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    Australian performances on tours of India improved markedly when they decided to stop whinging about the pitches & just get on with it - hence they won a series there and even when they lost the last two series, they didn't didn't just crumple like a paper bag in the way that India has on this tour. The whole 'wait'll you play at our place' rant that some Indian players & supporters are rolling out isn't helping their team - it's hurting it.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    Brilliant Gambir what a great idea - make sure its done before all four or five of the top retire so stats are fine. But let us be honest there is some truth in his assessment but the approach is not right - one hsould play as well on any surface

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 15:01 GMT

    Considering Gambhir's comments, we can see that Indian players have done a very terrible job on winning the 1983 world cup on seaming pitches in England. And in 2004 or 2005 India couldn't make more mistake when they drew a test series with Australia in Australian pitches. Ganguly and Kapil Deb should be ashamed of their jobs.

  • POSTED BY MFB76 on | January 22, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    I think he can say good bye to his captaincy prospects. What I like about Dhoni are his fighting skills and no nonsense attitude. He has never put forward excuses. I am surprised as why he did not request rule changes for home tours like no bowler can bowl him faster than 75kmh or that the he will have to batting chances when he comes on to bat. Shame on you Gambhir. You always looked like a baby and now you have proved it too.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    I think ICC must set the standards for the Pitch, Distance of Boundaries, Shape of the ground and for Outfield. So, that fans can experience competitive games all over the world. Otherwise endless arguments will carry on raising and damaging the image of Game of Gentlemen.

  • POSTED BY BestTeaminWold_India on | January 22, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    Hell guys easy, easy. No body can beat India in india. Even, Shane Warne was less than mediocre, and was taken for plenty by all Indian batters. Its a fact, every team is only good in their backyard, we havent had a team since the great West Indies who can claim to be true world champs. India in last decade was some where close to being world champ, as they won series in England, west indies, new zeland, pakistan, srilanka drew in SA, AUS and play very well in AUS even in 2008. So, Gambhir is right in saying about preparing turners for other teams. See what happened to Eng, they lost 5-0 to India in october. I predict them getting beaten 4-0 in tests and 5-0 in One dayers. This australian side is a little bit better than England, but they will be beaten hands down when they will visit India. You will see India beating Aus in Adelaid and also coming out victorious in one day tri series.

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | January 22, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    Mr Gambhir, focus on the performance of the current tour. We all know how good you are on the pacy and green wickets. As a leading Indian batsman your responsibility is to perform in all conditions. You need to commit more for the game. Are you willing to commit yourself to let to the big money of IPL and train hard in Australia or England to work on your deficiencies? As a sportsman your commitment should be to train hard and perform for the money you get paid which by all standard is a lot these days.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    What's Gambhir said is perfect. Home should have some kind of home advantage. As we can see how current world number 1 is also stumbling miserably without their home advantages.

  • POSTED BY anindya_mozumdar on | January 22, 2012, 14:45 GMT

    Well said Shridhar_Malur. The underlying assumption in a lot of the comments is that India will win easily if the pitch is a so-called "rank turner", which might not be true at all. Even West Indies with a very average team managed to give a good fight to India at home.

  • POSTED BY stormy16 on | January 22, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    Gambir has a point, that being dont cry when you get unsuitable wickets in Asia. This comes from the players, commentators and journalist but none of them seem to have a problem when seaming wickets are prepared at home. That being said I dont understand who ineffective the Indian bowlers have been in seaming conditions both in Eng and Aus. I think the fast bowling coaches need to be held accountable for this, its a bit like a spinner unable to turn it on a spinning wicket. I can accept the batsman struggling on fast, bouncy and seaming wickets but why arent the bowlers getting wickets in these conditions.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    By making such a foolish statement, gambhir has already accepted defeat even before the match has started.The current generation of subcontinent batsmen are nothing but flat track bully's, i doubt we will again see batsmen like tendulkar,inzamam,desilva,dravid, sangakara again, todays batsmen are simply not upto the challenge.

  • POSTED BY CHARLA on | January 22, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Gambhir may be defensive.But the fact remains that INDIANS are ridiculed for failing to seam and swing oversees whereas the AUSSIES,PROTEAS AND THE BRITISHare not criticised as much for failing on turning pitches.They talk as though playing o fast tracks is the END ALL AND BE ALL of cricket.Viewed in this context,Gambhir's point is valid.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    well most of ppl r misunderstanding Gambhir's comments..he obviously is frustrated with India losing so much test matches and frustrated y the media always ask questions regarding the techniques of Asian players on bouncy pitches..y dont they ask Eng,SA,Aus players about their ineffective technique against spin bowling..I think Gambhir is talking wid future in mind and He is right...After their Australia tour,India dont have any test series outside Asia till end of 2013 and so he is saying we should prepare rank turners during tht period..but I liked one idea frm sm person in this comments page : against teams like Aus,SA,NZ,Eng prepare slow dustbowls to test the techniques of players of these teams but while playing against Pak,SL and other lower ranked teams prepare bouncier wickets/greentops so that India can practice for playing in overseas conditions...

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | January 22, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    Note to Bangladesh. Next time India visit prepare a pitch with plenty of grass on it. Tamim will still go fine (see Bangladesh tour of England) and score you enough runs and the Indian's with fall apart like a house of cards.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:35 GMT

    Mr Gambhir keeps on forgetting that we are so called World champion not India champion. When Australia won their last world cup, they were invincible almost anywhere. Players like Gambhir mentality dont deserve to be in the team. Rather, he should say that we need to have green wickets in India, so that we can change our habit of being tiger at home, lamb otherwise...

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | January 22, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    India should prepare wickets at home that gives advantage to th home team. This is fair as others do when India is traveling. We saw how England crumbled against Pakistan on subcontinent type wicket and conditions. However, the question right now is the performance of the Indian team overseas. Both the players and board are to blame for poor performances. The performance shows lack of commitment and resilience from players to train properly for the conditions. If players are committed to overcome handicap of fast and bouncy wickets, they can afford on their own to train let alone the board supporting it. Board's fault is poor scheduling and requiring players to train adequately for the conditions. With all T20 and one-dayers, there is no time for players to train. However, the players like VVS, Dravid, Tendulkar had enough time to train in Australia if wanted to.

  • POSTED BY hsemar124 on | January 22, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    This is the only way some cricketer can make ICC think.. about their decisions regarding preparation of tracks.

  • POSTED BY Kaze on | January 22, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    This is a wonderful idea, teams visiting will simply learn to play spin better, but India will be stuck not knowing to play pace properly.

  • POSTED BY mayakee on | January 22, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    Simply unacceptable attitude. The problem is with the "hero worship" culture that exists in India. With this kind of batting performance, all the 6 Indian top order batsmen would not have been able to continue playing for so long if they were playing for England or Australia. In Western countries, the system (in the case of sports, the team) is important and not individuals. The likes of Tendulkar have to learn from Michael Clarke who placed the team's interest ahead of his own personal records. As long as a change in attitude and stricter team selection policies don't come into effect, we will continue to see such awful performances from Indian players. The defeats in England and Australia were mainly due to batting failures and not because the bowling was bad as some would argue. With the so called strongest batting line-up in the world, the batsmen should be able to post good first innings scores which will put pressure on the opposition batters. Period.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    It is a very bad advise. There should be some Indian pitches that are bouncy and assist speed. Otherwise future generations of batsmen will become sitting "ducks" like Gambhir and cannot face pace when they go on tours.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | January 22, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    India need to learn to play on all types of pitches, both batting and in the field. It's time they stopped making excuses. A specific pitch won't save a team. Only playing good cricket will do that and so far India have not done that in Australia. It's a disgrace that Gambhir, a senior player, would point to pitch preparation as a reason for India's failures and not look at their poor intensity and effort in the field, lack of application batting and lack of aggression and consistency bowling. In all these areas Australia have dominated and they are areas that have nothing to do with the pitch.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    Gambhir's suggestion very short sighted and I hope he is not charged with captaincy. In fact India needs to create at least some bouncy pitches so that future generation of batsmen get used to speed and bounce instead of becoming sitting "ducks" like him.

  • POSTED BY ausfor4 on | January 22, 2012, 14:16 GMT

    Ghambir only just realized that curators make pitches to suit the home side? Come off it buddy. Clarkes 300 plus, pontings 100 plus and husseys 150 proved that runs were possible for both teams. As for rank turners. I'm sure Shakib alhasan and saed ajmal would be happy with that. I'm a big fan of Indian cricket, but come on guys, lets hope for a 5th day in Adelaide.

  • POSTED BY mautan on | January 22, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    And to think Gambhir is going to be the next captain! Very sad attitude. What he has not realized is the other teams to not lose in 2-3 days inn India and the fact that this batting lineup as a combination has the most runs in one lineup in the history of test cricket...54000! Still lose is 3 days...the records are very misleading indeed.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    I don't disagree with what Gambhir's views. Home advantage, as it was 20 years ago, should test the touring team. As long as the wicket doesn't fall to pieces then why not have it turn from day 1-5, if no one side is at a real disadvantage batting last.

    Looking Overseas, neither the wickets in Eng or Aus could be described as raging greentops. Taking England for example, Lords and the Oval were pretty flat, Edgbaston and Trent Bridge had a bit of green grass on day 1. Edgbaston Cook smacked up 294 and only got out slogging. Trent Bridge England smacked up nearly 400 in a day 2nd Innings. Moving to Aus, Sydney, Clarkes scored 300+ on and can't of been that bad. The real issue is Gambhirs inability to adapt his technique in these conditions. Note that Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman aren't whining and that's because they know there is nothing wrong with the pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    What good will turners do when your spinners are garbage?

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 22, 2012, 14:06 GMT

    Well said Gambhir. Proud of you. At last an Indian after Dhoni has some spine in letting the world know that there are two kinds of bowlers - spinners and pacers and two kinds of tracks - pace friendly and spin friendly. For some wierd reason the phrase pace friendly tracks has become synonymous with bowler friendly tracks. If that be the case, the phrase spin friendly tracks is also synonymous with bowler friendly tracks. Simple as that. Next, if pace friendly wickets can be called as proper cricket wickets then spinner friendly wickets are also proper cricket wickets. England even didn't hesitate to use special duke balls from 2010 when we toured them. We don't have to go that far. Let's prepare rank turners when England and Australia visit us and let's see what their batsman and their pacers have in store.

  • POSTED BY RohithMedisetty on | January 22, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    Why should Sub-continent teams prepare green tops? We never see Australia or England preparing rank turners to get accustomed to sub-continent.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:57 GMT

    India not only lacks good Cricketers, they lack in conscientious leaders as well.

  • POSTED BY RajKootrapali on | January 22, 2012, 13:56 GMT

    Subcontinental teams have all the right to create tracks that favor them...as long as they can produce a result and are a good contest between bat and ball. ball does not necessarily mean seam swing bowling, spin is as important. india should improve abroad, but at home they are allowed to play in conditions that suit them. the day england play on a slow turning pitch at home...we can talk again. one has to be consistent in such an analysis.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    good luck with that, but i havnt seen any spinning tracks in india, just flat batting wickets

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    Lousy excuse. If you wanna be in a rank of top three test playing nations you will have to win overseas as well as at home!

  • POSTED BY dildar4 on | January 22, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    Contd.

    I meant no offense to pak and srilanka fans here. I just wanted to relay some facts, because we as humans do tend to forget the past quickly. In the past more than batting India has always found it difficult to produce an attack which could take 20 wickets (however the last 2 series I agree with everyone that it has been batting more than bowling at times, no excuses). For pakistan the nemesis has been their batting mostly. Sri lanka has a mixture of both, batting and bowling failure. I hope these 3 teams can really work on the best possible means to achieve success abroad. I always wonder what it would have been like to have a single team from these 3 nations if there was no partition. Subcontinent would have ruled the cricket world i bet ! again no disrespect meant towards anyone, just sharing my 2 cents.

  • POSTED BY insightfulcricketer on | January 22, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    I accept firstly that Indian team has to excel in all conditions to be called champs.But Melbourne and Perth wickets were a disgrace to play on.Perth wicket actually had a gash going right across the wicket on the second day itself.Except that slogger Warner who should have been bounced no body else from Australia played with any kind of technique. The thing is Australia did a lot of research they had realized man-to-man Aussie batting did not hold up against India on "effective cricket" pitches.They played on dubious wickets with bowlers with bounce and they got the results.That is where Gambhir is absolutely right.India needs to produce 2 out of 3 a wicket which turns from the mid-day itself.Front foot play requires bravery to play on a spinners wicket.Bravery in your understanding of revolution on the ball and mind you batsman has to do it every ball one mistake you are out. Lets see what these felllas do next time in India. We beat them 2-0 last time in two test on good pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    Sorely disappointed with Mr. Gambhir's response. Firstly, any rank turner will have a considerable amount of grip and bounce, both ingredients necessary for good seam movement for a fast bowler as well.Then what would be the complaint, when faster men still take wickets? Secondly, this is deeply insulting of the fast men on India's side. Is Gambhir saying that Yadav, Khan and Sharma are incapable of matching ability with the other fast men of the world? Can India only win through spin? Mr. Gambhir needs to stop trying to find excuses and stop hanging his bat out to dry at the top of every innings.

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 22, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    What happened to the Indians promising before the tour they would get 'weak' Australia with "swing"? When have they swung (or moved it off the seam) ? Seldom; in patches. Aus on the other hand have got subtle movement consistently - why because they bowled upright seam and hit the seam. They were also more successful because they have thus far been so consistent with the lines AND lengths they have been trying to bowl - again India have been good in patches. Now India failed to get movement - they cry and say "wait till they come to us where it turns". I am used to hearing loyal fans use this one - but I was shocked when I heard it revealed this was part of the banter - Warner was right they more or less conceded victory and just evidently didn't want to be playing against the Aussies. This is a team which is weak mentally - this is why they are losing; the pitch (conditions overstated anyway) is not the reason friends, a minimal factor at best but not the reason!

  • POSTED BY Ngaraj on | January 22, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    Gambir's comments are s out of sheer desperation and definitlely not one from a true professional. Instead, he should have asked for more bouncy and green pitches for practice before India travels abroad, and that would have made him a true professional too!!

  • POSTED BY likeintcricket on | January 22, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    This is a foolish comment as good players( Kallis, Tendulkar, Ponting) can play on every surface and good teams win(WI of 80's and Aus of 90's) on any conditions. But than there has to be some kind of standard for pitches also otherwise there will always be a question mark on #1 ranking.

  • POSTED BY vik56in on | January 22, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Gambhir is wrong.The Aus team under Ricky Ponting won a test series in India a couple of years back.South African team under Hansie Cronje beat India convincingly on spinning wickets here.India failed to beat South Africa and could only draw the series the last time they were here.

  • POSTED BY SSPrash on | January 22, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    What Gambhir is saying is perfectly right. If Indians are told that we need to do well outside of sub-continent to earn respect, it is same for others to do well in sub-continent to ear respect. If we cant play seam they cant play spin...so where does this lead to?...Tough question, so it's within everyone's right to play to one's strength and win under any costs afterall they are professionals who need to win in their profession. Fair enough!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    Mr gambhir it is just a lame excuse you also have fast bowlers in your team who havent been able to dismis team on these green wickets................

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    Mr Ghambhir , you took advatage from your home ground in th past ,thats why you have been winning at home compare to outside.,now talkin bou th future,your team shd prepare themselves to win out side rather then home side..

  • POSTED BY world.cricketer on | January 22, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    I think India should prepare some turning tracks and some bouncy tracks should play 2 tests in turning tracks and one on bouncy one before any overseas tour India should practice on these bouncy tracks. please BCCI make some bouncy tracks is well.

  • POSTED BY shamlaatu on | January 22, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    lol @ Gambhir .. hahahahaha .... as if India has been preparing super fast, ultra bouncy, and dark green pitches for the visiting teams in the last 50 years.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 22, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    @PAUL SITCHER . WELL I REMEMBER THAT IN 2004 AUS WON IN BANGLAORE & NAGPUR BOTH WKTS WERE FLAT NOT RANK TURNERS EVEN NAGPUR PITCH HAD SOME GRASS ON IT . RANK TUNERS WERE CHENNAI WHERE YOUR TEAM ESCPAED FROM DEFEAT ( THANKS TO RAIN INDIA HAVING 10 WKTS IN HAND NEEDED ONLY 200 RUNS ON LAST WHOLE DAY) & WANKHEDE WHERE YOUR TEAM WAS BUNDLED OUT ON 93 .LOOOL . ALSO THE TURNING 5 TH DAY PITCH OF KOLKATA 2001 WHERE YOUR SO CALLED GREAT AUS TEAM CANNOT EVEN SURVIVES 2 SESSIONS TO EARN A DRAW . I AGAIN SAID IF INDIA START PREPARING RANK TUNERS LIKE THE EARLY 1990s EVERY TEAM EXCEPT PAK WILL GET WHITEWASHED BY INDIA & ALL THE MATCHES WILL BE OVER IN 3 DAYS .

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:25 GMT

    hahahah..is,nt it funny from ghambir..now they are are making the green wkts the scapgoat...they need to impropve their technique and show the mettel..even a boy who loses in a street match can make excuses...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    So Gambhir has just admitted that India's batting line up is rubbish at facing high quality fast bowling on pitches where the ball bounces higher than the hip or moves off the seam and that to win tests they need to play on raging turners at home. On top of that unlike India who have never won a test series in Australia, Australia have won test series in India and instead of whinging every time we lose at least we go back to the drawing board to see how we can improve.

    Tendulkar aside the entire Indian batting line up including Dravid and Laxman have had their so called 'great' batting records greatly inflated by playing a tonne of test matches on flat lifeless decks but when they have come to Australia or South Africa they have consistently failed.

  • POSTED BY Potatis on | January 22, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    Weird that there are so many comments saying Oz and Eng produce pitches to suit their bowlers, so IND should do the same. That's fine, India, go for it. But ENG & AUS aren't preparing pitches to suit their bowlers, they are preparing pitches the way they have since before IND was even a test nation. Everyone knows what to expect of AUS and ENG pitches. SA, WI and NZ pitches are similar enough too, that the team who is in form is the team that wins, the pitch itself is only a small part of the equation. It means that if AUS, ENG, SA, WI, and NZ are good sides, they can win in any of these countries. Their records in Asia are not as good because the pitches are different. The odds of these teams being #1 are greater than the Asian sides because they have the potential to win in more countries than Asian sides, since they want to go there own way with slow wickets. If that's what they want, then they will win mostly in Asia.

  • POSTED BY sherishahmir on | January 22, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    Agreed with Gambhir comments that home side must have advantage to home conditions. Only Australia and West Indies have proven at their peaks, the real champs of game,either they were playing at home or away. Indian dominance as Number1 looked bit controversial as they could not beat Aus & SA in their backyards, which in the modern time is a benchmark to be ranked as number one test team. The frustration we got from team india is that they got sachin, dravid, laxman, sehwag, gambir, dhoni, zaheer, who got impressive profiles and they are still being defeated disgracefully by oppenents, which is awful.

  • POSTED BY addicted_to_chaos on | January 22, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    To all who thinks that Indian are great in their own backyard....... here are few stats, ranking based on win loss ratio in their own countries, and guess where does india stands..... yeah u r right, rightly/deservedly at 5 place, this is where it should be standing in all formats......

    1)Pak W/L 2.54 2) Aus 2.28 3)SL 1.79 4)Eng 1.76 5)Ind 1.53 6)WI 1.52 7)SA 1.28

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    what kind of excuse is this from gambhir. The fact remains that out of the seven away games india has lost so far, only few have been real green tops. England and Australia scored mountains of runs on the pitches that gambhir is talking about. It's more a lack of temperamant and technique than anything else. This talk about preparing rank turners, is a way to fuel their huge egos, and maintain their inflated averages.

  • POSTED BY Capround on | January 22, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Most batsmen face problems with seaming, swinging, green conditions. Did not Australia just loose to NZ in Hobart. Did SA not just dismiss Australia for 47. Then, if indeed the pitches were so green in Australia, why couldn't Indian bowlers make headway? Past Indian batsmen did much better against the Australian invincibles. Does that not mean that this Indian batting lineup is just not good enough? If the current Australian bowlers are applying relentless pressure and bowling in the right place even in the middle overs, like Gambhir states, then is it not the quality of the bowling and the weakness of the batting to blame -- rather than the pitches?

  • POSTED BY pak94fan on | January 22, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    Posted by RohithMedisetty on (January 22 2012, 06:33 AM GMT)

    But then the ICC would deem the pitch as ' not suitable for test cricket'.

    Well, on Aussie (so-called) green pitches, I see only one team having issues while batting (and bowling) and that is India, because they can't handle the bounce. On rank turners, when the highest score by a team is 150 and the match lasts for lesser than 2 days due to the ball turning square, that isn't exactly great for test cricket, I think. Work on your weaknesses rather than spend every second playing in T20 leagues, Indian youngsters.... that will help everyone. :)

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | January 22, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    no worries you will be playing ast home for thr next couple of years so you can claim once more to be the worlds best.By the way have India ever won in Australia.Of the established test nations is this not the worst record going.

  • POSTED BY NIPPY_89 on | January 22, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    What he has done is inadvertently admit that indian batsmen cant play on green pitches. Other teams will take notice now and prepare green pitches when india tours them.

  • POSTED BY billy_bilal on | January 22, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    But who will turn the ball for india? India has completely lost it. I found gambhir's coments really funny.

  • POSTED BY smjr on | January 22, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    The comments of Gambhir comes out of frustration than anything else. Indian has never won test series in Australia and South Africa but these teams which also include England have won number of series in India. Well as far as rank turner is concerned i feel indian batsman are also vulnerable.I may recall Bombay test in recent times against Australia where india narrowly escapes defeat where Australia requires some 100 runs to win. I have not seen such a pitch where ball turn so much and even Micheal Clark took quite a few wickets. Well, what Gambhir will say about india narrow escapes in Mohali against Australia where Laxman and Ishant batted beautifully and also against Newzealand where Chris Martin bowled splendidly. India also narrowly escapes at Bangalore in 2000 against Australia. I have seen indian teams of past that shows grit and determination and never give up easily in test matches. The current attitude is perhaps due to IPL,money and commercialization of cricket in india.

  • POSTED BY rahilahmed89 on | January 22, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir this is a really stupid statement. Your batsman should learn how to play in overseas conditions. It is the same with England. The didnt play well in the first test but they know that in the subcontinent they will get spinning tracks. Most of the Asian Batsman fail in AUS because of the bounce there. I can remember the Indian played good Cricket on their last 2 tours of AUS. SEHWAG has made 195 in AUS. Sachin, VVS, DRAvid scored runs but i think they are playing to much Cricket on Flat WIckets thats why they arent adjusting on Australian pitches. Too Much IPL cricket on flat decks!

  • POSTED BY eyballfallenout on | January 22, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    proof is in the pudding Australia in India played 42 won 12 lost 15 draw 14 India in Australia played 35 won 5 lost 25 draw 9 Australia perform much better in India than India "perform" in Australia.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | January 22, 2012, 12:55 GMT

    Gambhir is right. Every country has a right to play to its strength. But our problem is that as of now we dont have the deadly spinners that we had in the 70's and 80's. Though i our batting will look much better.

  • POSTED BY Busie1979 on | January 22, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    Gautam - you are partly right. Test other teams out with foreign conditions.

    But don't for a minute think India does not already prepare rank turners - Krejza 12 wickets on debut despite barely having a first class five-for at the time. Micihael Clarke 6 for 9.

    All teams need to prepare pitches in domestic cricket for all possible conditions. This means one ground producing "rank turners" in Australia. Seaming conditions in India.

    But Gautam - don't whinge. Get your game in order. This attitude is why India is not number 1. The conditions are the same for both teams. Australia have batted ok, India terribly.

    The pitches have been good - giving everyone an opportunity to perform. They are no excuse for India. Likewise, the "rank turners" in India will be no excuse for Australia if Australia get swept aside.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    wow ...here goes gambhir bashing again..... what he has said is correct but with wrong timing ... ..... aggree we shold have green tops as well ...... to prepare for away tours ... but point is y not prepare pitch as per our strength ..with what happened to England... i can see every team is struggling for away matches .. ...actually indian team is going through really bad phase and form... dont forget same team had won in south africa .... same indian seniors were part of good rank one team earlier b4 2011 ... ... as for frustration .... any team or player can get frustrated if lose 7 tests .... no team can become legendery or losr straightway ....its a sport..i still remember a match in mumbai when aussie were not able to chase 110 or something ...yet they had good batting line up and team nd dnt tell me that match was not interesting ...

  • POSTED BY Percy_Fender on | January 22, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    I wish Gambhir would not make such silly statements. I am not sure if he is really captaincy material.I wish he had ,learnt some common sense from the Trinity.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    perfect ... see whats happening with so called self proclaimed best team of world cricket in against Pakistan and that too outside pakistan :P :P :P

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | January 22, 2012, 12:44 GMT

    what advantage do india have on turning pitches? quality teams win anywhere, something that india need to comprehend. india have a huge problem and its underlined by the attitude of gambhir here. india have been belted because the teams they have played are just that much better than them, not because of the pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    lol .... grapes are very much sour now a days I think..... I think this statement by Ghambir is very much childish, immature and a statement from a looser. First of all! when did India made green tops or fast tracks ever before? Of course tracks will be slow and turning so what on earth is making Ghambir to push this idea lol.... I feel sorry for him and pretty sure that whole indian camp has foreseen 4-0 in ongoing series so they are pretty upset and in my opinion they shud concentrate more for the 4th test rather than uttering such inappropriate and 'cry baby cry' comments.

  • POSTED BY LillianThomson on | January 22, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    @Dicky Boy says that his father told him that in the 80s India used to beat touring teams with a spin-based attack. Really? The 1984-85 English team that won 2-1? Or the 1983-84 West Indians who won 3-0? Or the 1986-87 Pakistanis who won 1-0 in India? India has tried Gambhir's strategy before. It didn't work when the spinners were top quality in the 70s, and it has no chance now when no Indian spinner would be good enough to get into any other Test team apart from Zimbabwe and West Indies.

  • POSTED BY DingDong420 on | January 22, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    Totally agreed with Gambhir India should always play to their strengths. England basically chose the grounds that would give them the best opportunity to win. The Aussies have prepared tracks that don't suit India and neither should they!

    I'm not sure this rotation policy of Indian grounds helps either. We need good wickets to develop our cricketers. Our cricketers also need to play overseas domestic cricket and NOT just 50vers/ t20

  • POSTED BY FrankMeister on | January 22, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    I totally agree with Gambhir. Also ICC Test Rankings must incorporate some advantage to teams winning away from home (let it be neutral venues like UAE). Teams should get less points for winning at home than winning away.

    Then obviously English fans are going to be disappointed since England would not be top otherwise...

    Come on you tell me, how similar are English conditions to Aussie conditions?!?! Frustrated at english fans who say they have dominated away from home as well by.... beating Australia. Well, well, well... they are same conditions so why won't you beat them. Come to India and we will show you how to get mullered 4-0 and your bad sportmanship will become evident also.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    if india goes for strength n prepares pitches...the can make only flat tracks...coz they got good batsmen not bowlers...

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    MR SHRIDHAR WITH SUPPORT LIKE YOURS , WE DON'T NEED AUSSIE FANS SO U SEEM LIKE HAVING NO KNOWLEDGE OF OUR SPIN PLAYING ABILITY SO PLEASE, KEEP ALL YOUR SAYINGS TO URSELF AND DON'T COMMENT IF U DON'T LIKE EM CRICINFO PLEASE PUBLISH

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    In the last 2 years Gambhir's avg is 31 in the home grounds with no century, what will Gambhir say about this stat, is he will say no i want play on the moon, it is disgusting the capable players can play anywhere in the world....

  • POSTED BY RSBali on | January 22, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Ghambir I have adviced you earlier also that you just shut-up and concentrate and play. Let your bat do the talking. If I were a selector you would never be selected for foreign tours.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    They have already brought shame to themselves, they are now trying to bring shame to the entire country

  • POSTED BY addicted_to_chaos on | January 22, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    Gambhir words says enough about cricketing mentality in India....... They will always be flat track bullies.......

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Stupid thinking by Gambhir( As much as I admire him, being a honest cricket fan and not favouring any team, I feel this comment is worthless). Coming at a time when you are already 3-0 down in a for match test series, that too without a fight. I mean such heavey defeats. Saying that countries prepare tracks according to their strenths is just an excuse no mattar its said by an Indian or Auusie or someone eles. Each team is allowed to play 11 players, now if Gambhir is saying that Aussies have a bowling picth than why don't you play an extra bowler and why don't your bowlers utilise the conditions, Zaheer Khan( my fav indian bowler) being so experienced why couldn't utilieze the conditions. When other teams come to India they probably dont to well because they cannot utilise the conditions that good. The end point is that but teams are equal in numbers so there is no excuse just accept they were better( series against england i am not sure but this series Aussies won by heavy margins).

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    You said it, Gambhir. But ur inability against moving balls is exposed. please concentrate on your techniques rather sending these verbal volleys.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    Shameless Guy. Instead of having a mentality to be able to play at the highest level at any kind of wicket, he has a mentality of refusing wanting to adjust to that level, Its time for gambhir to hang up n play cricket on a online platform n create and prepare conditions n wickets to suit him

  • POSTED BY TopOrder_ on | January 22, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    is he 12 years old???? sure his comments proves that..grow up chum!!!..i hope he didnt had tears in his eyes during the press conference...

  • POSTED BY Aussasinator on | January 22, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    Gambhir is spot on. India should make full turners rather than the dustbowls. And for practice fo their batsmen there should be a couple of pitches which are grassy and racy. Mohali is a typical case where a beginning could be made. However, the defeats at melbourne and perth are not due to any monstrous bowling from the Aussie bowlers ( they are far inferior to the English attack), but the absolute lack of application and initial over confidence of the openers and middle order. The Aussie attack was at best disciplined and a few innovative approaches like stepping out or unsettling the line and length were never resorted to. its a very defensive Indian team and Australia are rattled only by aggressive teams not defensive ones.

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 22, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Cpt.Meanster lives in lalaland. SA, England & Australia are fast bowling nations. That is how it is & has always been. Cricket is played by so very few nations. Therefore, India needs fast bowlers to compete if it is to ever fulfil its potential as a cricketing power. India by virtue of its natural advantage (population & cricketing economy) should be miles ahead of the pack. But......it isn't. SA, England & Australia will continue to beat India, until such time as it is prepared to actually do something about its bowling crisis (both pace & spin). We all know the talk is there, but is there the steely determination to ever put anything into action? Umesh Yadav looks like he really wants to be a fast bowler. That's a start...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    The problem with India is not the "green" pitches it is the extra bounce. In the sub-continent you can bat on the front foot and feel comfortable hitting through the line. Once they travel and strike bouncier tracks their techniques are questionable.

  • POSTED BY Muhammad_Zahid on | January 22, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Really shame for india runs machines at their own backyard. They are really poor in overseas. Gambhir comments shows how helpless they are. See Tendulkar is playing only for his 100th hundred. Is this what player play for? And also see michael clark did not go for 400 for sake of his country win...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    good idea Genius. Thats the only way you can maintain your batting average!!

  • POSTED BY Shridhar_Malur on | January 22, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    Dear Gambhirji you might have heard of - "Naach na jaane aangan teda". The reason we don't make rank turners in India is because we might then start losing miserably even at home too... Instead of making foolish comments, please tighten up your technique and stop giving catch practice to the opposition's slip cordon. Along with the big 3, the Indian fans are running out of patience with Viru, you and the wicketless wonder Ishant Sharma. Less talk and a better batting performance would also help you to ascertain if you have (indeed) made it(?) "LARGE"!!!

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    FIRST OF ALL THE PITCHES IN INDIA FOR LAST DECADE WERE NOT RANK TURNERS, AND TO ALL PEOPLE DOUBTING INDIA SPIN TALENT WELL WE HAVE EASILY THE BEST IN INDIAN CONDITIONS ASHWIN,OJHA,RAHUL,BHAJJI AND BELIEVE ON TRUE TURNING TRACKS MATCHES GET OVER IN TWO DAYS, THAT IS INDIA WILL CRUSH THEM IN 2 DAYS

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    I support what Gambhir just said. The test should be playing in foreign conditions and thats what every team should experience. Indians have struggle in seaming conditions and thats understandable because against good attacks in helpful conditions every team has struggle be it India, Austrailia(against NZ and ENG) and Pakistan. Same goes with turning wickets. Against good spin bowlers every team should be tested in helpful turning conditions. We have seen England blown away against Pakistan spiinners(15 wickets) and that too on very helpful wickets.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    No team can be the best if they just only admit to being able to play on certain types of wickets. India simply have not put any concentration on a series since winning the World Cup, and they took Australia lightly thinking that given even if New Zealand could beat them then they'd find it easy.

    This is the same stupid thing Sri Lanka does, preparing dust pans or flat tracks though recently the wickets have had a lot more juice to them.

  • POSTED BY tmd1 on | January 22, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Just one point!!! Green wickets in Australia???? Didn't the Aussies at one stage during the second and third test's loose 1 wicket for around 750 runs while India lost 40 wickets for around the same amount of runs.Bad batting, not green pitches.

  • POSTED BY dubai_hunk on | January 22, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    i think india always make tracks for there batsmans..so they can make 100s...lolzzz....Gambir nice excuse.. :p

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    absolutely incredulous.especially, since its coming from the mouth of someone who is tipped widely to be the future of indian cricket, after the retirement of the BIG THREE. This can hardly hold as a good excuse!! its shameful that he is trying to shy away from India's abject failure overseas recently , by bringing in India's strengths back home. The time is ripe to initiate newer approaches to hone our fast bowlers ot adopt to conditions abroad, rather than spoon feed our average spinners with a "RANK-TURNER" ,to boost their misplaced egos !!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 12:00 GMT

    The Indian have one of the best top order batting line ups on paper and i would prefer if they played on greened tracks at home,and that way they prove to the cricketing world that they are one of the best sides today,and they dont lack the quick bowlers unlike the Sri Lanka team....

    Gambir....stop blaming the wickets and prove that you are a good batsman,no matter if you play even on a cement track....

  • POSTED BY Wexfordwonder on | January 22, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @Bapidas you speak sense. Great teams play well in all conditions. I would love for my team, South Africa, to prepare low slow turning wickets in SA and learn to play on them as well as quick seaming wickets. If your team wants to be great, learn to play on all surfaces, otherwise you will need to be happy with being labelled as poor travellers and only capable of winning at home.

  • POSTED BY mcsdl on | January 22, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    Sour Grapes Gambhir... This is a losers talk... Be a MAN..!

  • POSTED BY Zeus777 on | January 22, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    Gambhir.. what a baby! learn how to beat teams with good cricket not favourable conditions.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    The Australians in India, 2004-05! Remember this India! When you prepared these turning decks back then! And Australia won! Australia has nothing to prove on your decks! How many years at the top of the test rankings have you had in a row? Your 'team' has it all to prove. Focus your comments on yourselves rather than directing it at others. You have all been poor, you have not played as a unit and have been rightly beaten. You have the talent there to but for some reason you are not performing. This series should be a lot more closely fought out.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    Did he see the Hobart Test? THAT was a pitch with grass on it that moved. How would the Indians have done there?!?!

  • POSTED BY DaisonGarvasis on | January 22, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    Completely agree with Gambhir. Let the AUS and ENG come to India, play on "Rank Turners" and show what they got. In both England and Australia, both their curators made absolutely sure that the wickets could be the most helpful for their bowlers. Now bring them to India, make some wickets to suit our bowlers and lets see how much chit chat they do after the second day of each game. Cant understand why we cant go back to those early 90's when 3 spinners will derail them for peanuts of totals.

  • POSTED BY bajwa_rulez on | January 22, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    lol another excuse by indian bradman lol ,, they wont accept that other teams plays on same pitch and they dont get out liek them ,, and seems liek now india will play with 5 spin bowlers bcoz they gonna play on dust ,

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    Without commenting on Gambhir's comments...I infer that its time that ICC rankings should be re-modeled to include the home and away factor...The current system ignores the factor completely...That is the reason that every nation is being provoked to prepare more and more home team friendly pitches...Although I still believe that a good team should be able to compete in all conditions yet to give a team equal points for a home win or away win is UNFAIR...

  • POSTED BY pak94fan on | January 22, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Wow, what a shameless attitude. Wasn't expecting this. Aussie pitches are like they always have been, maybe you should have thought about that before the tour and planned ahead. Rather unfortunate that Indian Cricket is becoming such a joke, at least Oz have good fast bowlers for their green pitches, no team would collapse to Indian spinners, not for 7 tests in a row anyway, even on rank turners because they don't have the quality spinners. Gambhir and his team should focus more on improving their technique and trying to adjust to foreign conditions like previous Indian teams like Ganguly's did, rather than come up with useless talk like this. The oldies aren't gonna be around forever and can't be relied on forever, youngsters in India need to be trained to bat on green pitches as well as their own, and similarly their fast bowlers need to learn how to take advantage of green pitches.... Unfortunately most newcomers seem more concerned about T20s rather than the original form, tests.

  • POSTED BY tmd1 on | January 22, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Well the Aussie's will be glad to see the backs of the Indian's, it must be like having a group of sooky kids around.This stuff they are dishing up is school girl tantrums.Fancy saying that with turning pitches you will find out if they are mentally strong, this tells us that this Indian team is mentally weak when they play away.Players from all countries should just shut up and play the game because when they open their mouths they are usually make fools of themselves.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    LILLIAN THOMSON DREAM ON INDIA SHANE WARNE GOT CARTED AND ALSO SWAN GOT CARTED, HELLLO WE HAVE ASHWIN,OJHA EXCELLENT IN INDIA AND RAHUL SHARMA,WE HAVE THE BEST SPINNERS

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    Gambhir needs some rest!!

  • POSTED BY UmarKhan85 on | January 22, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    typical behavior..the fact remains that a great batsman needs to have a solid technique to play test cricket. Gambhir's crooked bat, Sehwag and Laxman's cemented feet on the crease and Tendulkar's tendency to play in the air on the off side are chinks in their armor. and it was only a matter of time before this happened. this is really an echo of what Srinvasan said the other day about bringing the aussies to india and they'll beat them. why is it so hard for the indian team to accept the fact that there batsmen have failed to deliver? and blowing apart from Yadav has done nothing.

    somebody mentioned here that Pakistan beat england coz they had home advantage. well Pakistan havent had "home advantage" for some time now and the wicket in Dubai had good carry and a bit of swing too. which is something u dont see in India. we saw james anderson swing it. the pitch didnt not turn the way is does in India of day 3. just accept that the current indian batting line-up has failed to perform.

  • POSTED BY sportofpain on | January 22, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    @Mikey76: really? So how come the same bowlers got thrashed 5-0 in the OD's in India immly after.Oh I know, ODI's are not cricket after all, our boys were tired, and of course they had the 'delhi belly'

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    I totally agree with gambhir that we should prepare pitch as per our strength since all country are doing same thing. We are blaming our team for there poor performance totally understandable but same things happen for other team as well when they come to sub continent they are very poor, take an example of undeserved No.1 rank england team they were and will be clueless in dubai. The Next challenge for Indian team is play well for the rest of their match in australian soil, atleast give some fight and play do or die.

  • POSTED BY BapiDas on | January 22, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    I totally disagree with Gautam Gambhir. The problem with Team India is that the batsmen can not play on bouncy faster tracks abroad and the bowlers do not know how to take advantage of such tracks! Indians have all along been playing on slow flat turning wickets and that does not help them when they go abroad! So the answer is not preparing tracks to OUR strength but to prepare tracks where WE learn to play on livelier faster tracks! Naturally ALL venues in India can not prepare 'bouncy, fast' tracks and the Indians will therefore have exposure to both kinds of tracks and hopefully will learn to play better on all kinds of tracks.

  • POSTED BY stFleming on | January 22, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    These three Indians Ishant Sharma, Virat Kohli and Gautam Gambhir are showing how immature they are...They are professional cricketers but they are still immature...

  • POSTED BY Manso on | January 22, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    I am shocked at Gambhir's attitude. If u r good enough to be No1 u shd be able to tackle any surface. yes, maybe u r great on some surfaces and not so good at others, BUt to get beaten 4-0 and now 3-0 down just because the wickets were GREEn says a lot about Indian cricket.

    Look at the Pakistanis. Last tour Australia they were confronted with a Green top. And they put the Aussies under the hammer,[though losing]. In England they got a green top against the Aussies, and beat them. Again a green top against England and beat them on it. And if u gv them a turner, God help ebodyincluding the Indians against thier spiinners.

  • POSTED BY stFleming on | January 22, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    Really shameful to hear this from Gambhir...He is crying like a baby...A professional cricketer should never ever talk in this way...Australia, England and South Africa always prepare seaming pitches...

    Indians also prepare pitches to their strengths...Why visiting teams lose in India?? its simple because they make turning tracks...Gambhir is talking silly...He is just crying because he don't have any answer to English and Aussie pacers' swing bowling...

  • POSTED BY MIRAJ_huq on | January 22, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    India's test defeats are the worst of its kind amongst all test nations. innings defeats. matches over in 3 days...that too cause the opposition batted long enough. hammered and lost with no competition. if the batting line up is so good why cant they make a competition out of it AT ALL, if not winning. and the wins in india are often marginal compared to their defeats because they lack the punch. accept the fact they are outrageously OVER-RATED team.

  • POSTED BY RK.Chandru on | January 22, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    Gambhir is trying to cover up for his non performance since 2010 by blabbering suggestions. It's BCCIs job, how to prepare wickets for our home series and we have always prepared it to our advantage only. He's better advised to concentrate on his area; i.e., giving a good start to the team.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Gambhir has a point but what stops the Indians from being able to score on these pitches? Sounds like they have wrong priority. They should be looking to replicate these seaming conditions if possible before they go out on tours or even better arrange for some open wicket practice in testing conditions. There's no point talking about what sort of pitches Indians need to prepare when they are supposed to be concentrating on the next test match.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    Rajasekhar Sykam, Please explain why Shane warne averages more than 40 in India on the same so called rank turners.Why he could not claim Indian wickets when Kumble & Harbajan were gobbling up the Aussies.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    India does prepare wickets to their advantage and strength and that is batting. They are good in batting on flat wickets so thats what their board gives them. Gambhair has missed the actual point here. Criticism came as India started declaring themselves as the best. While truth is that there was a power vaccum at top three positions in last few years and teams like England and India filled it. Top three teams were Australia, South Africa & Pakistan and I think they still will regain it. Australia is going thru change over as their old legends retire, Pakistan had similar issue plus their corruption issues, South Africa for some reasons is not playing much test cricket lately. Now these three teams are rebuilding their new teams and they will reexert their dominance again. Claiming number one without a decent bowling line up with depth is merely a joke.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    lol what a plonker, prepare spin pithces so your fast bowlers can get the ball to turn more gambhir?!?

  • POSTED BY Dedalus on | January 22, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    ''It's [these are] his own conditions, it's his own backyard'' says Gambhir. Eds, why the corrected grammar in square brackets, pray? It's perfectly acceptable oral usage. In fact, had Gambhir spoken with the your grammar, he would have sounded laughably odd. Also, would you correct for any of the English players this way?

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | January 22, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    @Birju Patel , but UAE is not Pakistan home conditions. It is away series for both the teams.

  • POSTED BY fanofteamindia on | January 22, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    I don't see anything wrong in what Gambhir says. He is spot on. We saw what happened to England. Every team is struggling outside their comfort zone. What he says is we need to test these teams as well. India never produces rank turners for the home matches. Sporting pitches should be prepared for domestic and not international matches. The pitches for home matches are no match for what we were offered for the last 13 overseas test matches. But, yes these things cannot hide the most dismal overseas show. OMG!!!! losing 8 out 8 straight tests is bit too much, but I am afraid as Gambhir said, this might be the trend in current test cricket for all the teams. Lions at home and lambs overseas!!!

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | January 22, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    What a loser's mentality from Gambhir. I know most of English, SA and Australian batsmen don't handle spin well but that is no excuse for you guys not being able to handle pace and bounce.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    I am an Indian, to all Indians saying gambhir was wrong, shame on you, When England lost 5-0 did any English fan say we want turning tracks in England no, so please people the tracks we have are not rank turners, my dad was saying in 80s when India used to open with 3 spinners touring teams would get crushed, they started it, let's see on rank turners these arrogant aus, eng players will get crushed inside 2 days CRIC info please publish

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Dear Gambhir, Hope this mail finds you well by the Grace of God......well to start with you must have read all the commnets posted to your interview above and you must have noted how many disagree with what you have just said and made a dear fool of yourself with a calibre of your kind that you have you should have said positive things for the future of Indian Cricket. We all know we got our No. 1 ranking in India, England got their No. 1 ranking in England, what does that tell you that means we all have to wait and wait until we have enough Test matches in India so we can grab the Title again because the moment you go and play abroad, you are bound to lose all series so my dear friend if you want something to happen let that happen in INDIA but doing what!!! India has to seriously consider making fast & bouncy tracks that swing too so our younger generation can start building for the future as we all know our great batsmen are retiring in another years time!!! GOOD LUCK INDIA

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    Actually, I think he is making perfect sense. If we acknowledge that there is some 'virtue' in a team prevailing in cricketing conditions which are unlike the conditions found in that team's home country, then this notion must apply for every playing team. If there is some virtue in India winning in 'un-Indian' playing conditions, the more 'un-Indian' the better, then the same must apply for every other team as well, otherwise the concept has no meaning.

    Therefore, it makes perfect sense that pitches prepared in India when other countries tour it should be as unlike those founds in those touring countries. But, there seems to be some sort of sentiment that preparing spinning tracks in India for touring nations is 'uncompetitive' (we're all heard those words before, there is no point denying them). Thinking about this logically one realises that it makes no sense. It conflicts with the above premise of what challenging away conditions should be like.

  • POSTED BY Zohaib.R.Q. on | January 22, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    Laughable. With this sort of mentality, it is no surprise that the Indian team has being trashed overseas.

  • POSTED BY BestTeaminWold_India on | January 22, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    Hell guys easy, easy. No body can beat India in india. Even, Shane Warne was less than mediocre, and was taken for plenty by all Indian batters. Its a fact, every team is only good in their backyard, we havent had a team since the great West Indies who can claim to be true world champs. India in last decade was some where close to being world champ, as they won series in England, west indies, new zeland, pakistan, srilanka drew in SA, AUS and play very well in AUS even in 2008.

    So, Gambhir is right in saying about preparing turners for other teams. See what happened to Eng, they lost 5-0 to India in october. I predict them getting beaten 4-0 in tests and 5-0 in One dayers. This australian side is a little bit better than England, but they will be beaten hands down when they will visit India.

    You will see India beating Aus in Adelaid and also coming out victorious in one day tri series.

  • POSTED BY LillianThomson on | January 22, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    This interview raises serious questions about how mentally frail Gambhir is. The wickets in the first 3 Tests have not been green-tops, they have just had decent - and not excessive - bounce and carry, which has exposed technically flawed batsman (Gambhir, Sehwag and Dhoni) and past-it batsmen whose reflexes have gone (Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman). But he is deluding himself about what will happen when England and Australia tour India. England will have just played away series v Pakistan and Sri Lanka, and in Swann and Panesar have better spinners than India anyway. And India was only 1 wicket away from drawing its last home series v an Australia in transition, and now India's geriatric batsmen are two years older while Australia has a better spinner than before and two bowlers in Cummings and Pattinson who are so quick that even in India they will cause problems. If Gambhir wants India to beat ENG and AUS at home he should tell the BCCI to only schedule T20 matches!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    Wonder how Gambhir thinks he has the wherewithal to say something so absurd. Such gall for someone who has not yet recovered from the concussion he received in England! If Kohli says something like this, it is understandable given his immaturity, but from Gambhir who should be senior-most after the Old Men of Indian Cricket retire, it comes across as petulant. Gambhir should be dropped from the team to recover fully.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    Green pitches? Clarke scored 329 on the same pitch where Indians looked miserable! Shameless comments indeed.

  • POSTED BY swingstowin on | January 22, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    whereas its one's prerogative to make any type of pitches they want when playing at home,i dont think he should've said that out loud!! What does it make him??? Not a good batsman!! A good batsman plays good everywhere,not just at home!! A good bowler bowls well regardless of the condition and thats what make 'em legends!! For example, Dravid played brilliantly in England (you cant expect him to perform every time!!) and for me,he is an awesome batsman! Why would he say something like that?? Out of frustration?? Or may be he just wants to be considered for selection when India plays in India,so he may end up with a great average!! Sad to hear this from Gambhir.. thought he was talented!!

  • POSTED BY SagirParkar on | January 22, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    wow.. what an attitude and way to approach the game.. it seems that some players in the team and administrators do not want to be a better team.. they seem content with just winning matches in their own home conditions.. if this is the mentality, then i am afraid there will be a time when India will begin losing matches at home as well...

  • POSTED BY Tootsie on | January 22, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    What he is really saying is that India can't play against quality fast bowling. Infact Indian batsmen are scared of fast bowling.

  • POSTED BY jockoz on | January 22, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    Let me get this right here!! Gambhir wants to have the home advantage and have turning flat tracks??? Isn't that what India won there Number 1 status on? And now they have lost it due to playing away on "greentops". Shouldn't they be trying to improve their performance on fast bouncy greentops? Otherwise they will only continue to win at home and get thumped when they play away like the India of old. Yes the true sign of a great side is one that wins everywhere....like the Australian team of old, who psized the victory in India almost as higjly as any Ashes win. All the foreign teams aspire to play better in flat turnes that you get in the subcontinent. India should be concentrating on winning on away pitches. Simple. They should also be focusing on the job at hand.....not the " oohh you wait until you get ti India then you're in trouble!!!!"

  • POSTED BY KillDevil on | January 22, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    I agree with gambhir that we should continue to prepare tracks that suit us but it doesn't hide the fact that, this indian team has been awful away from home for a while now. We need to sort out how the players are going to handle overseas conditions in the future. It's never been as bad as the last 2 tours in my memory and therefore, the problem lies with the current crop of players, rather than the green top tracks.

    BCCI needs to force the curators in local competitions to get youngsters used to all kinds of conditions by preparing tracks that has a bit for the fast bowlers, rather than just flat tracks, where an average player knocks 200's for fun. it will also benefit us in finding new fast bowlers of the future. Send a few top quality youngsters like rahane to the english county game like the aussies do.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | January 22, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    ALL INDIAN FANS WE DON'T USE RANK TURNERS , WE USE ONLY FLAT WICKETS THAT TURN ON THE FOURTH DAY, IF WE CREATE PITCHES THAT TURN FROM DAY ONE WE WILL CRUSH ANY TEAM NO DOUBT FOUR NIL OR TEN NIL, WE GET A LOT OF DRAWS CAUSE WE PREPARE FLAT WICKETS, CRICINFO PLEASE PUBLISH

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    wonderful point..the so called cricket pundits n de ICC , u know they slam pitches like Gambhir say rank turners, especially when the match ends in 3 days..but here they prepare pitches with such pace n bounce..the match ends under 3 days...its something that the board could pay heed to...take a leaf out of PCBs book in de way they prepared the pitch in de recent test against England....

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    I totally agree with gambhir that we should prepare pitch as per our strength since all country are doing same thing. We are blaming our team for there poor performance totally understandable but same things happen for other team as well when they come to sub continent they are very poor, take an example of undeserved No.1 rank england team they were and will be clueless in dubai. The Next challenge for Indian team is play well for the rest of their match in australian soil, atleast give some fight and play do or die.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | January 22, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    I hope nobody picked up my sarcasm from my 2 posts here. Seriously the Indian team needs a reality check as to what nonsense they are spewing in the form of excuses. Most of the pitches in England last summer and now in Australia were not extremely pacy or bouncy. Sure they was some side ways movement in England but that comes with the turf. It's simple folks, the Indian batsmen are just not good enough to handle high quality pressure packed bowling. Even on the slow turners in India.. they could be found wanting if put under constant pressure. The WI team showed the world that they could be competitive against India IN India. India don't play overseas for the next 2 years. They may end up beating everybody in that time but it doesn't solve the major problems in the system of Indian cricket. We need a competitive Indian team abroad. I hope they get it.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Good batsmen should bat well in all sort of pitches and score runs. And good bowlers should get purchase from any sort of pitches and get wickets. For example, Gavaskar used to be a batting hero both in India & West Indies. Similarly. Viv Richards scored beautifully both in West Indies and India. Similarly in the hey days of West Indies they had a battery of bowlers who used to get wickets like nine pins all over the world. It seems that level of cricket craft and class is gradually vanishing. That is why I had been repeating that there is no World no 1 any more. And, every one is an emperor in his own Kingdom. What a fall, my friends, in the global standards of cricket and cricketers! (By the way, I have seen Ken Barrington batting beautifully on the rank turners in India, but I don't see anyone in the current English team, who can emulate Barrington. Just one example. Many more can be cited)

  • POSTED BY hungrybunny on | January 22, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    although i am a Pakistani but i have always been a great fan of Indian batting. But it is a disgrace to hear such a comment from a senior indian player. Seems like he has ALREADY ACCEPTED A DEFEAT in the next match and preparing grounds for it. Why can't he stay and play in India if he knows he can't cope with the bouncy wicket in australia. What is he doing in australia?.Is he enjoying a holiday or honeymoon. He needs to get out of this defeated mentallity.

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | January 22, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    All i keep reading is do not cry eng oz and sa when you come to india and the wickets turn, i have read many posts, with no complaints about indian wickets, we understand when you play in eng anderson is hard to play, morkel in south africa, pattinson in australia, ajmal in uae, i still cannot figure out who is going to take advantage of these rank turning wickets, so from my point of view is bring it on india, no team in the top 6 should be worried about playing india anywhere, until they get some bowlers. and another thing as if the bcci would consider turning wickets, no entertainment value in it for the IPL maybe india could play in uae.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    Gambhir's comments have to been seen in the right perspective. Each country reserves the right to play to its strengths. Now having said that, lets also not hide behind the fact that India have been pathetic in both England and Australia. Proud people like Gambhir should be able to nurture the pain suffered due to these defeats and reverse the shambolic performances when we tour abroad next time. The truly great teams will not hide behind a false sense of comfort of winning on surfaces prepared to suit themselves. So whilst it might be fun to hand over innings defeats inside three days to visiting teams on rank turners, Mr. Gambhir and Co. would do well to remember that such wins will not qualify them as a great team, which is what our aspiration should be.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    @sirvivfan I think he is saying no one should complain on seeing turners.

  • POSTED BY hmmmmm... on | January 22, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    Ridiculous comments form the 'walking wicket'! Yes teams are generally more used to conditions at home because that is how they rise to international cricket - by playing on them - that is home advantage! but to suggest that it should be enhanced because you can't hack the conditions overseas is ludicrous. if you look at the australian grounds all of them are different, and not one pitch in this series has been overly 'green', india has just failed to apply itself to the pressure created by a very focused and disciplined bowling attack.

  • POSTED BY hst84 on | January 22, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    australia have also lost series in india but they never spoke out tht we'll see you in our own homeground and we cant play in india. They arent playing to save their skins and defame themselves they play for their pride. The fact is that you have never won a series in australia except 2 test matches since 1990. Australia on the contrary have beaten you in one test series played in India since the 90's.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | January 22, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    its true that the past 7 overseas tracks have had a little grass that has initially encouraged sideways movement; however, except at lords n mcg the tracks have overall been good for batting and looked like lasting 5 days (it was indias batting that failed- some showed signs of spinning later in the match but india didnt last the distance); india had their moments in t1 here, n t1-2 in eng; at scg india elected to bat on a greenish track; this was a captaincy error n batting failure; it appears india are searching for excuses for their pathetic performances; and when since mid 80s have india not tried to prepare turners save a few years back vs oz? such 'real turners' will also help visiting spinners even of michael clarke variety n tall fast bowlers (as they tend to exploit the uneven bounce) and india dont have a saeed ajmal. still no harm in doing this when oz n eng visit later this year; one hopes that after india loses at home it will be accepted that our batsmen are overhyped.

  • POSTED BY bonaku on | January 22, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    Well said, point taken. May be we should keep this in mind not speaking it out.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    Very short-sighted ideas of Gambhir. When Australia and West Indies were no 1, they at least managed not to be whitewashed in indian tracks. Australia managed to win a series too, probably West Indies also did that. If India keeps on building turning tracks, can they avoid series defeat overseas against good teams? With spinning tracks in India, India will win at best half of their test matches. Is it sufficient to be a great test team?

  • POSTED BY Harry_Kool on | January 22, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    I got to admit, I am surprised that so many Indian fans disaagree with these comments. Kudos to you, you have my respect. To be the best you must adjust to all conditions, this is a defeatist attitude. He is already a shot duck for the next test. Indian pitches can be quick & bouncy, Nagpur 2004 vs Aussies showed that. Why not develop that for your bowlers & batsmen to hone their skills and be confident on any overseas pitch?

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | January 22, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    its a nice theory but the oval was a spinning track and you still lost.If you have a weakness then you need to work on it.Flower has said that England will not be number 1 til they win in the subcontinent.That is the difference.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    May be India should stop touring abroad, especially outside the sub continent!!! We should only play in these dusty turners and then I am sure we can top the ICC test rankings!!

    It is time the administrators started looking at preparing some seamer friendly tracks in India.Gambhir's comments doesn't help in this context!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    India and England have one thing in common...Always looking for an excuse for their defeat rather than analyzing and improving their own mistakes...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:15 GMT

    Utter nonsense! Concentrate on your batting. How New Zealand managed to beat Australia although that was just by few runs? We are struggling to extend the match into the 4th day.

  • POSTED BY hst84 on | January 22, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    With due respect sir, when you were in form and scored even on green pitches why were these comments at that time? why only now? probably this is the only comment one can use in order to save their skins from defeats like these. This is a worry for all the sub-continent teams not only you infact you have the most experienced batting line-up w.r.t srilanka and pakistan. and more importantly, if India has made pitches that has suited foreign teams, then those pitches can also be made for you ppl to overcome this weakness that you all possess and generate bowlers like the foreign teams do but i think your lame excuse is so very pathetic to see and think about.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    While I agree partially with Gambhir - that every team should play to their home advantage - here's the deal: like he reserves qualified praise for Siddle until he performs in the subcontinent, he conveniently forgets the Indian batsmen who fail to perform on seaming ENG wickets, or bouncy AUS/ SA tracks. If your quiver is full of arrows, and you know the right one to use, no target is beyond you. No country can prepare a track which'd neutralize a Malcolm Marshall, Murali, or a Dale Steyn. Similarly no pitch can shackle a Lara, a Tendulkar or a Kallis. They might struggle, but they'd find a way, if not fire and bluster, then sweat and grime. Besides, did the Indians cover themselves in glory against Murali and Mendis in 2008 on turners? What I do agree though, is that a spinning wicket shouldn't be branded as 'unsporting'. If bouncy, seaming tracks test the technique of a batsman, so do spinning ones.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    It is only a fair comment.Australian's will cry if they face true turners.But he should focus on the last testmatch now.

  • POSTED BY eyballfallenout on | January 22, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    @Malediction 100% correct. India should have some wickets that have pace and bounce, not for us to win on but for them to have all round skills and be a great team. Do we really want to see every series have a flogging by the home team. A perfect wicket has something for everyone, then when you get a 100 or a 5 fa you deserve it.

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | January 22, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    Well this suggestion is like moving back instead of looking to go forward.Rank turners or not Aus have lost their last 2 series in India, one of them was 2-0 whitewash no so long back,Eng too lost last series which they played in India.India has not lost a home series since 2004,that is 8 years.India has an excellent record at home since 2000.Gambhir should have said that we should work hard to repeat performances like India winning in Eng 2007 and drawing in SA and Aus,instead he wants rank turners,its disappointing.Go play county cricket instead of IPL champ,you should be learning to play swing and seam instead of asking for rank turners,that would be helpful for Indian cricket,With this attitude we will start losing at home too.Dont disappoint us (Indian fans) by making such statements.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Probably not the best moment to say this but he's right. In first class matches, there should be a good mixture of bouncy and seaming wickets to orepare batsmen for bouncier surfaces and avoid catastrophic tours like the current one and the one before that. But when it is an international match, then India must make wickets that take turn at least from the end of day 2. The ideal test wicket should be one with 1 day of assistance for the seamers, 2 good days for batting and 2 for spin but the wickets seen in Eng and Aus had something in it for the seamers right up to day 4 ... seems fair that subcontinental wickets should do the same...have assistance for the spinners for 3-4 days. Oh and the people touting Swann should look at how he was treated in the last ODI series in India.

  • POSTED BY meejee on | January 22, 2012, 10:08 GMT

    Get a life. Batsmen job is to bat in any condition and bowlers job is to take 20 wickets. Do that and India will win matches overseas. Stop complaining and learn the skills.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    Hahahah how typically juvenile from Gambhir - I once thought he was actually a pretty good batsmen. He's just showing his true colours now

  • POSTED BY luks on | January 22, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    I think Gambhir is trying to get under the skin of Aussie batsmen and make them do something rash.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 22, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    RANK TURNERS SHOULD BE PREAPRED FOR TEST MATCHES IN INDIA BUT YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW TO HOW TO BAT ON BOUNCY PITCHES . THE NEXT WC IS IN AUS . WITH THIS TYPE OF ATTITUDE FROM KOHLI , DHONI , GAMBHIR , ISHANT I CAN SEE INDIA REPEATING THE 2007 DISASTROUS WC .LOOK AT KALLIS , AMLA , HAYDEN , LARA THEY ALL ARE GOOD BATSMEN IN BOTH BOUNCY & TURNING PITCHES . OUR INDIAN BATSMEN SACHIN , DRAVID , GAVASKAR ARE CONSISDERD GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE CENTURIES ON GREEN TRACKS TOO . A BATSMEN WHICH MAKES MOST OF RUNS AT HOME IS NOT CONSIDERED AS GREAT . HE IS LABELLED AS HOME BULLIE . EXAMPLES ARE AJAY JADEJA , SADGOPAN RAMESH , MAHELA JAYAWARDNE , SEHWAG .

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:03 GMT

    funny how editors screeen out comments farcically percieved as India bashing

  • POSTED BY Amit416 on | January 22, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    I agree with Gambhir here. Every team prepares pitches according to their strength. but i think india should prepare bouncy and seaming tracks for odis and turners for test matches. Now I want to ask you guys every one asks india to prepare bouncy and seaming tracks but we all know teams like england , NZ , aus (current) dont do well at turning tracks in subcontinent..why no one asks them to preapare turning tracks in their own backyard so that they will be able to perform in subcontinental condition. look what england is doing against pakistan right now and no one is asking eng to prepare turning tracks in eng..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    Gambhir is candid that he cannot play bounce and Swing. He can only play well in Indian condition. If this is the attitude of a cricketer then Indian cricket is in a very bad state.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    We are taking on Gambhir as we take on anyone who has lost. We believe that Losers have no right to opinions.I do not find anything wrong in his opinion that India should have rank turners. Fast bowling alone isnt cricket. Indian cricket has enough talent to sustain itself . To believe that after the Failed Veterans leave Indian cricket will be in doldrums is misplaced. Indian Cricket will get stronger if favoritism & nepotism do not play any role.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    India should prepare spinner friendly as it is their strength but It should also welcome Paksitan as only Sl and PAk have good spinner. I believe INDIA is going to be next No # 1 as next 2 years they have play only in India. No overseas tour. Clever move by India.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    when pitches can be made in such a way that ball can swing all 5 days......then whats the problem if India made tracks which turn throughout the match........well pointed ..Gautam Gambhir

  • POSTED BY Jeyganesh on | January 22, 2012, 9:57 GMT

    For all the people who wants green tops in Indian domestic cricket, did you ever heard of Australia, England or SA preparing rank turners for their domestic cricket. And where do all of you got the thinking that fast bowling is the ultimate of bowling? What Gambhir said was prepare pitches to our strengths, will Australia or England prepare a turner when India visit them? Gambhir asks not to prepare a flat track or fast bowling pitches, prepare Indian turners similar to what Australia and England prepare pitches for their home games.

  • POSTED BY TheBengalTiger on | January 22, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    Indian batsmen have showed they can play brilliantly on green tracks. Think back to the SOuth Africa Test last year, the Australia tour in 08 etc. Australian batsmen (including Bradman) have NEVER shown they could bat in turning conditions.

  • POSTED BY cric...scholar on | January 22, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    Oh my God. what kind of thinking is this. Like children use to say " come in our town, we will tell you". the fact is that India played very bad cricket on both tours. They played well last times. If thinking is such as mentioned by Gambhir, Im afraid how are they going to improve their skills an those tracks. You wish to be called Champions and you only want to win at Home by preparing Rank turners.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    wow. This is what India has done. thats why they perform poorly overseas. wakeup ghambir.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    Gambhir is partially right here in saying that we should prepare to our strength when at home. But the other half he overlooked is that champion sides have 'rank turner' bowlers in their armour like swann who may give a good run to new age indian batsmen who are weak against swing/seam and hopeless against quality spin which was proved by murali and mendis in India's one tour to sri lanka. First Indian team should do their homework before giving excuses of this sort

  • POSTED BY scc4cricket on | January 22, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    I dont blame the batsmens of india bcoz they are getting less chance to play fast track like this. Indian cricket control board need to realise that the need of fast wickets in india for our upcomming players. I dont understand why our seemers not performing in fast tracks outside india.... Strange.....

  • POSTED BY TheBengalTiger on | January 22, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    So true! England and Australia love insulting India for not playing well in unfamiliier conditions. They should be made to do the same.I love Gambhir

  • POSTED BY Lion_96 on | January 22, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    I couldn't agree more with Gambhir. Why is it ok for Non-Asian teams to prepare pitches that suit them, but not ok for Sub-Continental teams to prepare rank turners? And most of the comments here seem to be directed along the lines of "we should prepare green tracks back home, so we can compete overseas" Really?? Does that mean Australia, South Africa & England should prepare rank turners in their domestic competitions, to compete in Asia? Of course no one is going to say that, are they? It seems like that non - Asian teams get to decide what is a "good pitch". Ricky Ponting called the Premadasa Pitch "rolled mud" in last year's World Cup. Back in 2008, the South Africans criticized the Kanpur pitch. The Galle Test, in which Australia won last year, was a rank turner. But it was deemed unfit by the ICC. However, the WAC A test last week had alotta grass on it, but there was no condemnation about the pitch. In my view, each country should prepare pitches that suit their own strength.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 22, 2012, 9:44 GMT

    @SIRVIV . NO VIVSITORS HARDLY GET RANK TURNERS LIKE WANKHEDE 2004 OR KANPUR 2008 IN INDIA . MOST PITCHES ARE FLAT WHICH PRODUCE TURN ONLY ON LAST 2 DAYS .

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 22, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    This shows are huge problem in the psychi of India at present. They are making too much of the pitches as if it were the sole factor explaining the Eng and Aus losses. This mindset is not mature particularly when you consider there is still one test and 20/20 and One Day series still to be played - what Indian pitches ought be should be the last thing on their minds right now. Focus on this tour only makes sense. The fact Gambir is saying this is more of a clue for their failings - they are basically mentally unprepared. Sydney was after all a fairly flat pitch. If India think doctoring pitches to help them win on home soil - watch them lose on their own home soil; mark my words. India should not pitches dont make a cricket team - they should spend their energies else where to become truely successful. I say with Gambir also - bring on 'rank turners' - watch them lose. India need to know neither the pitches in Eng or Aus have been some kind of conspiracy.

  • POSTED BY Nigels on | January 22, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    oooooh well Mr Gambir, it thought that was obvious..but the fact will remain, will they lose within 3 days as well..??

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    He has implicitly conceded that he can't bat on green tops. In fact, one should appreciate his honesty.

  • POSTED BY banglafan on | January 22, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    Although the logic is irrefutable, Gambhir here sounds like a crybaby. However, even if there are rank turners, India thrashing the visiting teams is a different proposition altogether.

  • POSTED BY DocBindra on | January 22, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    I agree completely with what Gambhir said. A lot of them might have thought it but few say it and its about time. I think India should prepare rank turners for the spin challenged teams. The Indian board should think outside the box and prepare green grassy bouncy pitches for domestic games as well as prep for tours aboard. I understand practice goes only so far but practice makes perfect.

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | January 22, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    Well do it then mate! My memories of playing in India are of high scoring draws in empty stadiums with the occasional result. Most fans will take a good turning pitch rather than the usual featherbeds you guys produce. The only real dust bowl was Mohali many years ago and we won that game.

  • POSTED BY bushie10 on | January 22, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    Sorry remind me. One of these supposedly 'raging seamers'. Didn't Australia make over 600 on that pitch? I think India need to look at the bigger issues here. As good as the Aussie bowling has been, most of indias wickets have fallen to poor shots. Sure prepare turners for overseas teams, it is no different to normal. In the end though this will not help Indian cricket. There is obviously a technical and mental problem for the Indian batters at the moment which they need to examine before criticizing our pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:29 GMT

    India is very good when it comes to winning in indian soil....when was the last time india ever won a series away? i don't think inda can even beat bangladesh in bangladesh....

  • POSTED BY Rajul_Tandon on | January 22, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Gauti going the wrong way....his statement narrates his mental condition after 7 overseas defeats that he can perform only well on turning tracks....but more than turning tracks India needs players like seniors who dont take cricket as revenge but concentrate more on improving their own skills in performing in any given condition...wish India gets real replacements for (Sachin/Dravid/Laxman..)...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    Shameful comments especially after the way he has batted. Just shows how mentally and technically challenged he is.

  • POSTED BY arl127 on | January 22, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    Dear Gambhir,

    You CANNOT play on seaming and bouncy. Go and study what you wanted to do fix it. The above interview proves the first sentence what I wrote.

    The whole world know that Indians can play very well in a spinning a track. Even in Australia during the last tour we did good under Sourav. I am disappointed on you saying we have to have turners. As a fighter, we should be able to play in any wicket in any conditions.

    Why did not you suggest that we will have both green and turner wickets? That will do good for lot of youngsters who will be playing for India.

    At this point of time, Indian team is a aged one. Shewag, You, Sachin, Rahul, VVS all will be hanging their boots in an year or so. Who will replace the legends like Sachin, Rahul and VVS?

    You all go to NCA to train, what are you being trained at?

    So when you comment please have a longer vision so that next time India goes on to take No 1 we can hold it for a long time like WI and Aus did.

  • POSTED BY tinkertinker on | January 22, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    Also a bit strange he seems to think india lost this series because of green pitches, the pitches were not greentops, the Hobart match vs the kiwis was a green top these pitches have been good for batting if the batting is good enough.

  • POSTED BY sharidas on | January 22, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    On a general note, Pakistan seems to have the best balanced bowling attack at the moment. Gambhir is right when he says that we (India) should prepare pitches which suit us, but, at the same time, we seem to be lacking spin bowlers of class too.

  • POSTED BY sirvivfan on | January 22, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Do I understand what he saying? Is that not what visiting team gets already? Tuners?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Its kinda sad to see the current crop of Indian players are talking like this..First it was Ishant ,Kohli and now Gautam..Instead of thinking how to turn the corners these people are saying"We will see u in our own backyard" ...Utter disappointment...Indian cricket seems to be rewinding back to 90s "Lions at Home Lambs Abroad"..All gud work put by Ganguly and co. seems to be flushing down the gutter....I hope they change their mentality else its curtains down for Indian cricket ... Tragic and Sad..and btw Indians always prepare turners at home...But if Gautam wants ball to spin from ball 1 god help Indian Cricket :((

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    I want Gambhir to explain why Indian FAST bowlers are not able to take wickets of Australian batsmen even though there is GRASS on the pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    I think Gambhir makes an excellent point here, you know it was so difficult for Alexander to conquer India because we had warfare techniques and elephant mounted soldiers who were hard to tackle. In the same light our strength is batting on flat tracks and and bowling on spinning pitches. Everyone is a king at their own backyard and why shouldn't we the kings too when it comes to our backyard. Home advantage is the key, everyone saw what happened to England playing against Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | January 22, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    with this sort of attitude, these folks will never go places. Wish to see every team touring india beating them to pulp.

  • POSTED BY johnmal on | January 22, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    This sounds like a lot of whining. Instead of accepting responsibility for not being able to play in foreign conditions , he seems to be playing 'we are good in our home and they are in theirs' argument. Even if Australia and England don't well on those 'rank' turners, what does that prove ? At best, it means that neither team is better than other. It does not make India better if Australia loses on turning tracks. No matter what the fact remains, that some of the best batsmen India has ever produced have not been able to put together a decent score in 7 test matches.

  • POSTED BY Malediction on | January 22, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    I really don't understand all this talk of preparing pitches that suit the home side. Test cricket is a contest between batsmen, pace bowlers and spin bowlers. Ideally, a wicket has something in it which suits all three. Thus, the ideal test match wicket was born: has movement early for the pace bowlers, settles down to a good batting strip for 2-3 days, then takes spin, with maybe some variable bounce for the quicks. Most Australian wickets try to conform to this idea, with some variation between them. As do English and SA wickets etc.

    Why India in particular choose to focus on only two aspects of the game of test cricket is beyond me. Ignoring pace bowling isn't going to make it go away.

  • POSTED BY getsetgopk on | January 22, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    doesn't get more clearer than that a clear admission that i'm no good on bouncy and swinging conditions, ask Gavasker or any other Indian batting legend, bouncy and lively pitches have been there since the stone age and requires a different set of skill which you frankly dont have, you represent a proud nation, the indian supporters deserve more than desparate and depressing statements like these, and dont worry about other teams problems on slow turning pitches, worry about your batting on lively pitches or else quit cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    I agree with him but I think it highly unlikely that either Australia or England are going to be thrashed 4-0 in India...

  • POSTED BY jinnx on | January 22, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    what kind of interview is this? come on boy it's not about losing, it's about how u lose. i remember that Australia lost there last series in India but i also remember Australia putting up a fight. They lost one match by one wicket. so i advise this guy to keep his head down and try to put up a fight in next match.

  • POSTED BY tinkertinker on | January 22, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    India only have the courage to produce rank turners when they are losing a series, their pampered batsmen wouldn't be able to rack up the tons if every pitch was bowler friendly.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    oh yeah , if i remember well , sa is yet to lose in india for quite sometime . theyve drawn 2 series in india . and were actually leading into the last test match.... we dont want excuses Mr gambhir .. the last time aussies toured india , they almost beat india at mohali (if not for lax and ishant raising that match winning partnership) ...and england also fought well...they set india a target of 387 to win at chennai ... wat u are doing is miserable , u please raise ur game and fight ...thats wat uve been paid for....

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    That's a very negative way of thinking by Gambhir. He's basically saying that India should forget about winning abroad and be content with home wins. Yet, he says that the real test of a team was to win overseas. So Gambhir is contradicting what he says.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    gambhir is right every team is preparing the pitch keeping their strengthin mind so when the same teams come to india they should be treated with turning tracks andthen let tryand save the test.

    i hope the indian curators are listening

  • POSTED BY PrajithR on | January 22, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    MCC a private club in England has copyright to the laws of cricket & only they can change it !!!!!!! ... That is the Single reason rank turners have been outlawed ... If Clay, Grass & Hard Courts can be allowed in tennis , then why not turners be allowed in Cricket????? ... After all no Indian batsmen have got hurt playing in such pitches (Because they have the ABILITY to play in such pitches which ENG, AUS players do not have) ... If ICC threatens with ban , then BCCI should get out of ICC ... ICC have shown again & again that its only interest is to suck money out of India

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    Lol, at least you are being honest...,

  • POSTED BY Number_5 on | January 22, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    One of the good things about test cricket is seeing how great players perform in all conditions. There appears to b a trend towards drop in pitches which seem to have big amount of sameness about them. Any country that moves towards more drop in pitches (hhmmm Australia and particularly Adelaide..) will lose the ability to prepare the sort of pitch they want, sporting, turning, green, flat. Is Gautam suggesting that when Australia has toured India previously the home team hasn't prepared pitches that suit them? If thats the case, id be interested to see what faces us next time we tour. The Indian team really appear to have dropped their bundle, complaining about everything and comments like "wait till you play in our conditions" suggest they have already thrown in the towel. As a cricket fan i was really looking fwd to this series and some great cricket, but have been severely disappointed at India's lack of discipline and now heart. I hope they put on a good show in Adelaide.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:08 GMT

    I agreed 100% with Gambir when they are coming to india we have to prepare to our advantage.If they are making conditions to their advantage why not us?Oh Sunny,ravi dont come @ me ..... ha ha ha U are those making these noises of making fast tracks in India we will live with what we have and wats our strength

  • POSTED BY m_kamb on | January 22, 2012, 9:08 GMT

    cowardly thoughts of gambhir.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:03 GMT

    Lol.. I am Indian, but I still find it amateurish from Gambhir. The wickets the last few games were played were not that big of a bouncy track. Sydney was a flat pitch with australia scoring 659/4 and the bounce in perth wasn't the greatest and the pitches used in Adeleide are pretty flat usually. Plus it wasnt the bounce that got the players out, it was bowling consistently and creating pressure.

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | January 22, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    Finally, some cogent analysis of what is transpiring in the middle and what India should do when welcoming visiting test nations aspiring to be #1.

  • POSTED BY x-squire-x on | January 22, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    so basically gambir is saying india have no pacers....

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    thats so true folks i know we got beaten fair and square but its because the edge our seniors had due to the age factor has gone which is why they are not getting results abroad as they did till 2 years back which is why we were No 1 then but in subcontinental conditions i can gaurantee these masters are still awesome and we dont play outside till 2years we should have a rotation policy and give chance to all promising youngsters by having them play attleast 4-6 A tours to Aus,Sa ,Nz and Eng and groom them before those tours arrive and we are ready .See what happenned to Eng the same fate awaits them in India and Sri Lanka and also awaits Australia when they come here as they have the most Injury prone bowler and dont have any spinner of substance to challenge India. Its a gaurantee by mid of 2013 we will be number 1 again

  • POSTED BY Sanj747 on | January 22, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    Aus, SAF and Eng should have to show their ability to play on all wickets. Aus and SAF have generally fared ok in the sub continent. The idea of spinning wickets won't help in India developing their skills to play abroad which should be equally important.

  • POSTED BY PrajithR on | January 22, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    Fully agree with Gambhir .... Our pitches should turn from ball one which ensures even conditions for both teams for all 5 days .... ENG, AUS players does not have the ability or technique to play on such pitches & coerce ICC to outlaw these pitches .... Many people have got hurt because of their inability to play bouncers .... If that is Okay then these ENG & AUS players should also show MANLINESS & play in pitches that turn & have inconsistent bounce, rather than WHINING about their safety

  • POSTED BY agsankar on | January 22, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    Aren't we using rank turners to win matches in India? If Gauti has difficulty fishing the ball in WACA then we need to have plenty WACA like wickets in India and have Gauti and his likes fish the ball in India. Seriously, we should have domestic games played in quick green top wickets for next 4 years and build the team that can play any where in the world. We can have the current rank turners for visiting team for the next 4 years before we open up. We should behave like head less chickens and regress as Gauti is suggesting. For us to be really world beaters we need to be ready to play in any condition. Anything that comes through short cut will go in a short while. Three series consecutively away from India will undo any gains that we get by playing in Indian conditions. Hope somebody would smack some sense to the BCCI and the players on long term planning.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    I remember the "sour grapes" moral story. Gauti, what about the last srilankan series; you guys were bundled out by mendis, murali and co?

  • POSTED BY TajOfIndia on | January 22, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    He should be more concerned about his own technique on green tracks which are helpfull for bowlers rather than challenging other teams on slow and half preapred turners.

  • POSTED BY mikey76 on | January 22, 2012, 8:55 GMT

    Just sums up India's problems. Always looking for excuses. They should prepare fast bouncy tracks with grass on in India and then when they go overseas they wont look like a bunch of amateurs. India's strength right now is in their fast bowling unit. They dont have any stand out spinners. I'm sure the likes of Swann or Panesar would love to bowl on raging turners in India while we've seen how effectively England's seamers bowl on flat tracks in Adelaide and in the summer at Edgbaston where it was a road. This seige mentallity from Gambhir is ridiculuos and just further harms Indian cricket. In England there are fast tracks, big turning wickets like Old Trafford and traditional green tops. We didnt prepare wickets to suit our bowlers against India last summer, its just our bowlers were good enough and theirs weren't. End of story.

  • POSTED BY Faizan_Bahadur on | January 22, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    Just SHAMEFUL to say the least..

  • POSTED BY Krishna_M on | January 22, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    This is an extremely immature set of comments from Gambhir, whom many view to be a future Indian captain, wrongly in my view. Yes, by all means go ahead and prepare turning wickets in India but saying it in public in the middle of a disastrous tour smacks of stupidity and sour grapes. Saying it before a test where we want our players to play for pride and redeem something, isn't good at all. It shows that there's no fight left in Gambhir for Adelaide and he seems to be thinking ahead to home test matches. This is not the kind of attitude and statements that we deserve from our senior players.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    Well i hope Gambhir doesnt speak for the rest of the Indian nation as I doubt they are happy to be pathetic performers overseas as long as they can win on feather beds at home. I wonder if Zaheer and other pacemen enjoyed the more friendly pitches here or were they bowling on different ones to the Aussies?

  • POSTED BY KarmatBaig on | January 22, 2012, 8:52 GMT

    Gambhir talk something new, India always prepares wickets that are turining square on the first day of Test before lunch and taking dust from the pitches before close of day1.

    Pakistan defeated Indian at Bangalore in 1987 when they had Gavaskar and Co., their best team to play spin bowling, even now Pakistan can repeat the same provided India agree to play at any venue in the world.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    He may be right ,but his timing absolutely wrong .when you lose like minnows then you don't speak.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:50 GMT

    yeah sure make the turning pitches at home as if losing 7 consecutive test matches overseas is small matter but winning at home is much more important :D Indian cricket is going nowhere if such is the attitude of their senior pro's.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    donno wat to say right or wrong

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    Em Pakistani but Em big fan of Sachin, Sourav n Rd. These 3 are role models for all youngsters.Heavy strength Batting line-up+weak bowling-up couldn't give u big wins. Winning world cup 2011 is big achievement but u hv to think for ur future. Compare ur team with Pakistan, South Africa, England and Australia. All of them hv grt bowlers whereas all these teams got grt bowlers like Pak=Imran Khan, Aaqib, Sarfraz, Waqar, Wasim, Shoaib Akhtar n now currently Gul, Junaid and many more. Aussies=Peter Siddle, Brett Lee, Mcgrath, Lillee, Gilespie, Mitchel Johnson etc. Eng=Anderson n Broad, SA=Steyn, Pollack, Ntini, Tsotsobe etc.SA,Pak n Aussies r having good back-up. Even all these teams hv produced grt batsmen not like Team India but those r also grts.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    This shouldn't be an unexpected comment from Gautam. Especially when he hasn't scored a test century for over two years!! Go home and fill your boots with runs!

  • POSTED BY r1m2 on | January 22, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    I for one, agree with Gambhir, this time around. Why do commentators, fans and ICC all get on the bitching boat when matches played on turning tracks finish in 3-4 days in India, when seaming tracks produced in England and Australia also sees matches finish in 3-4 days and most of their mouths stay shut as if everything's okay with the world?

  • POSTED BY the_blue_android on | January 22, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    What a load of ? Gambhir, how about learning the technique on how to play on seaming, swinging and bouncy conditions instead of talking about other teams playing spin? The way Indian spinners have been bowling these days, even rank turners will not help us win. England have Swann, SA have Tahir, Pak has Ajmal, SL has Herath and Mendis...who do we have? Just admit that you do not have the skill to play on bouncy tracks and that's a good starting point.

  • POSTED BY manish19902008 on | January 22, 2012, 8:41 GMT

    i am happy thAT GAMBHIR HAS SAID THAT AND SHOWN THE TRUE MIRROR TO THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    it seems that ghambir is upset due to back to back defeats and wants to win at home with turn advantage.... gambhir should keep in mind teams may lose due to over confidence ... so turn pitches are not gurantee of their success in coming series if they dont perform well as a team...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    This is a good thing which has to be implemented!!! even when the conditions are very difficult the Indian team has performed well in the past. Considering the option india is weak on fast paced tracks and exploiting them on green tops is very common. so why not we prepare rank turners when the visiting team come here!!! let us test them and if they could succeed then world will accept that they are good team and credit will be given. I would say this indian team is capable of doing anything..losing cheaply and winning from no where!!!. The ICC reprimanded SL and India over preparing turners for the test matches against Aus and SA. So why not the ICC reprimand Eng and Aus now for preparing green tops. Is ICC sleeping or the art of spin is considered as sin!! at last i would say that indian team should change the attitude of surrendering meakly overseas..The youngsters have a great chance to make this happen with their talent. cheer up india...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    Yes I agree with Gautam Gambhir but Aussies, South Africans n English team hv won series in Sub-Contienatnt where Asian teams are not too much capable of beating them in their home grounds. India hv good track record. They hv won some series in overseas but there main problem is bowling. India haven't produced good bowlers. No doubt they hv great legendary players like Sachin, Sourav, Rd,Sunil Gavaskar Yuvi, Sehwag etc and legacy continues by getting Virat Kohli,Rohit Sharma....etc...Its unbelieveable to see the talent of produing great batsmen but why u guys r unable to produce great bowlers?There r only 4 or 5 great bowlers like Zaheer Khan(The only person for Indian team to control their bowling line-up). Then Ishant isn't too much talented, Praveen Kumar is not a big player, Munaf is also not a biggie, Bhajji is good against some teams but although Bhajji is a fighter and he helped his team for several times, Ashwin is a great find but not the perfect one may be.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    No Excuses Mr. Gambhir, you have to learn how to play in overseas. You guys can only perform in dead pitches of Sub continent...

  • POSTED BY muzamil_cric on | January 22, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    isn't he trying to hide the misery of Indian batsmen now just failing on routine on foreign pitches, I mean common Gambhir- you guys have the world cup , was that all a hokum or what, and by the way when other teams come to India , I dont know any pitch in India where it doesn't spin/turn.. I think they always get pitches they want...it is just a shame..

  • POSTED BY Jeyganesh on | January 22, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Gambhir has got the guts to say what lot of Indian cricket fans think. The sub continent wickets are suited for spin bowling and we should prepare spinning tracks that turn from first ball. There were no comments raised about the pitch in which third test got over within 3 days. Think if the game got over in 3 days in India with a turning pitch. The boards would say it is an under prepared wicket rather than their team unable to play spin. The complaints about the pitch should also be stopped.

  • POSTED BY bingohaley on | January 22, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    You hit the nail on the head dear Gautam : "the real test of a team is to win overseas".

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Dear Gambhir, Its shame being a cricket fan to read such comments from an Opener/Cricketer. So, as per your mindset that you had expressed,you should play in your conditions only. Even you should suggest that, the No Bowler should bowl more than 90 MPH as in Sub Contint none is like that, Donn bowl above chest as You dont have the habit and so on so forth. No one expects you to loose in your backyard but you do. The Players are called Great when they play away.And if you are not able to face the challenge that doesnot mean no one had done. Just 5 years back Aussies has done with u.You are a Pathetic Player with Glorified name. Now your statement has Proved that You Will never be able to called as Great Opener. In Home Conditions, Even Cat becomes Lion.u know this..

  • POSTED BY IndAusEngSouthPakSri on | January 22, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    Very impressive... I dont think any Australian (except ponting) or England or South African(except Kallis and Amla) would be mentally strong to handle the sub-continent conditions.. They have to understand sporting wicket does'n only mean seaming and bouncy tracks.. Curators wake up.. This is the second Frustrated Indian cricketer after dhoni to make such a comment.. Our Pakistani neighbours have already started teaching some lesson to english cricketers..

  • POSTED BY nova87 on | January 22, 2012, 8:19 GMT

    It seems Gambhir has a lot of growing up to do. Not only as a batsman.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:11 GMT

    hahaha, Mr. gautam at the moment you are in Australia and focus on your own performance rather making a point for your home series. I think you should formally request ICC that INDIA will only play at home as they are not well prepared side for the away series. LOLZ

  • POSTED BY LillianThomson on | January 22, 2012, 8:11 GMT

    Gambhir's comments show why India is 0-0-7 on its last two overseas tours. Siege mentality, combined with an over-estimation of their home strength. I have seen 3 big turning Test pitches in India in the last 4 decades. In 86-87 India lost at Madras to Iqbal Qasim and Tauseef. The following year Hirwani beat the West Indies. And in 2004-5, with a home series already lost to Australia, India doctored the pitch for the fourth Test at Mumbai, and the teams compiled scores of 104, 203, 205 and 93. What Gambhir seems not to understand is that India currently doesn't have any decent spin bowlers (Swann, Panesar, Ajmal, Rehman, Vettori, Kaneria and Shakib are all far superior to the best current Indian) and that even if they did, the refusal to accept DRS means that they can't get lbw decisions against batsmen playing with their pads. Today Pakistan U-19 play their final in South Africa: maybe the BCCI should think less of IPL and more of preparing U-19s to play abroad.

  • POSTED BY Arrow011 on | January 22, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    Gauti you are spot on. Never make pacy pitches for visitors. I would suggest go for 4 spinners in India. Ashwin, Ojha, Harbhajan & Murli Kartik. These Aus, Eng & SAF cant even cross 150 in any innings.

    A good spinner can be a matchwinner even in Pacy conditions, it is time we played 2-3 spinners even abroad. Shane warne used to take wickets in Perth also, why go for 4 pacemen? Did you see result when you play 4 pace the Australians won the test in 2.5 days, that shows you are feeding what they want, they wanted Indian pacemen to bowl at them & we gave them what they wanted. Whenever Ashwin played it lasted atleast 4 days, this shows they still dont want spinners in Indian team to play against them. You should bowl what they dont like, play both Ojha & Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY SamAsh07 on | January 22, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    Just prepare the pitches in some non-cricket playing country and have all the cricket teams battle it out in a tournament, best way to know who is good.

  • POSTED BY mrm2011in on | January 22, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    NOW ITS END OF TESTING TIME FOR INDIANS WHILE START OF TESTING OF AUS N ENG TECHNIQUES...AFTER THIS YEARS PAK ENG SERIES N ENG INDIA OCTOBER SERIES,AUSTALIA IND 2013 SERIES RANKINGS WILLL COME BACK TO WHAT IT WAS YEAR BEFORE..IND WILL BE NO.1 BEFORE THEY TOUR SA NEXT YEAR..INSHORT EVVERY TEAM THRASHING VISITORS IN THEIR HOME ..ONLY EXCEPTIONS -IND TOUR OF SA 1-1,AUS VS ENG LAST ASHES,ENG TOUR SA 2010..THATS THE REASON WHY ENG IND ARE TOP 2 TEAMS IN RANKINGS BECAUSE THEY DREW IN SA..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    I'm impressed! I cant remember pitches turning and bouncing in India for 12-13 yrs since 1998 Oz tour and the pitches are flatter these times.When foreign countries come here they must expect turners from day1 like we expect the overseas tour with full of movement and bounce.If u're good enough u will be good enough in all conditions and u don't cry that pitch is turning from day1 or offering bounce and movement.That's the challenge in the game (including all 3 formats) .its the diversity in game that makes it special and we must encourage it rather than standardize the pitches around the world.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 22, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    TO SOME EXTENT I AGREE WITH GMABHIR . INDIAN CURATORS PREPARE TRACKS WHICH PRODUCE TURN FROM DAY 4 . THE FIRST 3 DAYS BATTING IS EASY . BUT I HAVE A DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IF CURATORS PRODUCE PITCH WILL PRODUCE TURN FROM DAY 1 , THEN THAT PITCH WILL B BANNED BY ICC BECAUSE THAT PITCH IS RATED AS " UNSUITABLE FOR TEST " BY AUS , SA , ENG PLAYERS .

  • POSTED BY manish19902008 on | January 22, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    i agree with gambhir totally

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | January 22, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    I also would like to add that there should NOT be any angry talk against Gambir or the Indians on this issue because whenever an Asian team goes to Australia, South Africa or England those guys bounce them out. It's time the Asian countries spin em out !! tit for tat. It's an easy formula to follow. The BCCI with its power status should prepare turning tracks and test the ability of the 3 big non-Asian teams. Let's see if these guys can really live up to all the hype. It could also backfire on the home teams at the same time.

  • POSTED BY Arsalan_RC on | January 22, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    LOL so Gambhir Finally accepts he cant play spin yeah? In other words he is saying Indians have accepted the defeat, they cant play good quality bowling, so they will only compete on rank turners!=D well too bad Gambhir, Because Pakistan have the best Spinner at the moment, and England are not too far behind! India? I dont think after Kumble they have a high class spinner =D so you may prepare whatever you like, this Indian team will lose to Pakistan, England and Australia even at their own back yard! Try inviting Pakistan =D

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    so india can ONLY win their backyard right? The real challenge is to win away from home, not in your own home. By saying that preparing tough tracks for them would check how mentally strong they are, if they're making tough tracks for you and you're failing badly means you're not mentally or technically strong either!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 8:02 GMT

    'The important thing is, how he bowls well in the subcontinent.' No Gautam, the important thing is he is taking India wickets NOW!

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | January 22, 2012, 8:02 GMT

    Sad. Even the Indian players are now blaming the conditions (a nice change from blaming the umpires, though). What about the SCG test, where it was slow and flat? India still got thrashed. What a short memory Gambhir has. It seems he has forgotten the dry-as-dust deck that India served up for the world cup quarter final against Australia, when they faced Tait, Lee and Johnson. The deck was so dry and grassless that huge puffs of dust were spewing up where the ball landed on the pitch in the 3rd over of the first innings! Blatant doctoring. So what is Gambhir talking about? It would be business as usual. PS, the Sri Lankans tried the dust bowl thing in the 1st test last series in SL, and it backfired when they lost the toss.

  • POSTED BY whyowhy on | January 22, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    This is not something new, India always prepared wickets to suite them, usually underprepared wickets and when they have to play on proper wickets they are found to be wanting. Better still India should ask to play all their matches at home so that they will be on top of every table.............

  • POSTED BY Usman_Hafeez on | January 22, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir, if their seamers can take advantage of grass and seaming conditions, why can't indian fast bowlers perform the same. Forget about your batting, but why your bowlers are unable to utilize the green picthes? I know australian batsmen are used-to of playing on green wickets, but atleast your bowlers should have troubled them in such conditions. So this means, apart from batsmen, indian bowlers have also failed overseas.......?

  • POSTED BY Winsome on | January 22, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    I agree with him. I love watching batsmen getting into a tangle against spin bowling, it is one of the joys of cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:59 GMT

    for once i actually agree with someone from the indian team. but we all know what happened last year in galle don't we?

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | January 22, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    I agree 100% with Gambir. I think the BCCI have been very kind to non-Asian teams over the last 10 years. It would be improbable to expect fast and bouncy green tops in India BUT the country can go back to its strengths and prepare dust bowls which should last at least for 4 days. Let the Aussies, English, South Africans etc chalk out a plan to come out on top. Those teams have genuine weaknesses against spin and India should exploit that. Then we all can have some fun. But HOLD ON !! do India have class spinners to take advantage of such conditions ? as of now the answer is NO !

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    Gambhir, get a life. we are giving you juicy tracks here that is why you guys have loads of runs. You batsmen(You, Sachin, Laxman) are nothing for good. when harbhajan can score consecutive test tons this shows how the pitches are made in india to suit you people. The Indian tracks are also of full assistance to spin bolwlers and foreign team never hesitate to challenge you in India. If you guys were no. 1 test team in or if you ppl won the WC, it was all because the tracks were made to suit you. otherwise you people are good for nothing.

  • POSTED BY matbhuvi on | January 22, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    Well said...Rank turners do produce exciting cricket. But, that would be a bit overkill for Australia or England. Look at how England has performed against Pakistan. Australia would fare far worse.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:57 GMT

    nicely put ! we always here people complaining about turners when they come to india !! the same people make fun of india when they draw a blank on pacy pitched ! it evens out !

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    This might be a good way to rekindle the lost art of spin. Pitches in the subcontinent must provide a distinct flavor and test skills set of batsmen just like green tops do, no point in having dead bealters and slow turners. DRS will make the contest even more spicy. All the talk of making test pitches with grass in India does not make sense. If they really want to improve the technique of batsmen in India the BCCI must make grassy pitches for Ranji, Duleep trophy, etc. or at least make the under 19 teams play county cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    late comment, but good one.. should have done that from England.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    This is not good for cricket when players start saying come to our turf and then we will teach you the lesson.Indian Team is without the doubt the best home team in the world but they need to keep the hurt alive and go with young players just imagine India getting 3 tough tours like England is currently getting and they have to play in England,Australia and South Africa in 1 single year? I think they should definitely create couple of fast pitches in India atleast in their local tournaments so batsmen xcan get good exposure for away tour.

  • POSTED BY mhk21 on | January 22, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    lol ghambir is having a burnout .....he is acting childish because he is not able to score runs ...this means he cant play on green pitches and play on flat tracks only ....so india should opt a different team for a flat track and a green track.....he is talking like a 20 year old ....pity on indian cricket team

  • POSTED BY RaoVS on | January 22, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    So instead of trying to overcome our limitations, what Gambhir is saying is that we ignore our weakness and just play to our strength? Thats not the characterstic of a team aspiring to be world no 1. It would be like USA declaring themselves to be world champs!!! Already there have been criticisms in the past about India's No 1 ranking and England are being criticized after loss in Dubai about their No 1 status. Let Gambhir & think tank of India concentratre on playing their game & leave the talk to politicians.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    ha ha ha frustated opener's frustated comments. perhaps he has taken a crash course from srinivasan that is why such childish comments, one problem with rank turners is that india do not have even a single world class spinner, harbhajan's time is up, ashwin needs "rank turners" to be effective , ojha is good but needs to be more consistent , piyush chawla has got struck in development. therefore rank turners could pose more of a problem to the so called "best" batting line up of india then australia or south africa although england may collapse on them as despite them having a world class bowler like swann they do not have quality players of spin

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    Pathetic to hear this from a person who is being touted as the next long term Indian captain. Indian team should start accpeting the challenges and try and win matches in tough conditions rather than these talks..

  • POSTED BY Dilmah82 on | January 22, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    This is why he and his colleagues struggle overseas! Make raging turners, and see what skills the future Indian batsman and bowlers come up with. Likely to get whitewashed a lot more when touring overseas! If he wants to improve the team maybe he should ask the BCCI to look at their preparation for foreign Test tours and compare that with the preparation for money making events like the IPL!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    Wrong attitude Gautam. Maybe you should worry about the gap between your bat and pad rather than trying to excuse your sides woeful form on the 'unfavourable' conditions, which Australia had to bat in too, lets not forget. Furthermore, Zaheer Khan, Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma all seem like the sort of bowlers that would thrive in 'seaming' conditions. Why couldn't the India bowling unit step up? That should be the real talking point for you Gautam. Respect lost for you Mr. Gambhir.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    Fair Point though its not an excuse!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:46 GMT

    What is he talking about???? As if they don't make tracks to suit spinners in India. This is the biggest joke of the century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Does he think people don't know cricket and what goes in India.

  • POSTED BY binoyb on | January 22, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    true - every team makes use of their home advantage... why not India?

  • POSTED BY Gupta.Ankur on | January 22, 2012, 7:44 GMT

    Completely agree with Gambhir. Very seldom english or australian commentators or writers give mush emphasis to art of spin bowling.

    You are never judged based on doing well in asian countries, but in 1st world countries....

    Its high time doing well against spin is treated on par with swing bowling and not vice-versa....

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Well said Gauti....................

  • POSTED BY coolguymee on | January 22, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Everyone know about this that teams are strong in their own backyards. What is the point Gambhir want to say.Hayden when toured India practiced against the spinners & played superbly against Harbhajan & Kumble.When Australia tour India they will see number of different venues whereas if India tour Australia, they play test matches only in Melbourne (MCG), Sydney (SCG), Perth (WACA), Adelaide Oval. So,Indian batsmen knows the venues & conditions & were not touring Australia for the first time.They did not prepare well and it looked very embracing that inspite of top players in team then also innings defeats could not be avoided. India played better cricket against the likes of Mc grath, Shane Warne.Selectors has to think about Gambhir future as well, it is sad that player of his caliber is rating a bowler like Siddle. If Gambhir says that Siddle can be said as great bowler if he performs well in India. Then same implies to Gambhir as well. Australia did prepare sporting pitches.

  • POSTED BY unbiasedfan on | January 22, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    Disappointing. What a negative and defensive attitude from someone who is touted as an important member of the next generation of Indian cricket.

    The idea should be to prepare sporting pitches which offers something to everyone (batsmen, pace bowlers and spin bowlers). The pitches in England and Australia can be described as sporting pitches with a tilt towards assisting pace. Preparing rank turners I don't think falls into the category of sporting pitches.

    Instead of whingeing the Indian batsman should learn to play at balls which bounce over their knees rather than being flat track bullies who are masters at slaughtering balls which are at ankle height.

  • POSTED BY manish19902008 on | January 22, 2012, 7:40 GMT

    i think gambhir is right.......whenever we prepare turning tracks like in kanpur 3 years back for visiting south aferica there was lots of criticism from the sa players as well as their authorities.....no such noises are made when other countries makes pitches for diadvantage of india like this years sydney test where there was lots of grass on usually dry surface.....i think india should prepare tracks which woud start turning from first day of the test.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    Gambhir may have a point ,but in light of the fact that India's been at the receiving end of a beat-down 7 times in a row now....its just sounds like a whole lotta whining . Its not that they've been losing for a while now, its the manner in which they have lost. If only he had acknowledged even once in his spiel that they've been found lacking in technique against bounce and a moving ball, him demanding "rank-turners" in India would have had more credibility and added some context to his rant.

  • POSTED BY AdoSR on | January 22, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    So what is Gambhir saying here? Is he saying that India's problems overseas will be rectified by making home pitches even less like overseas pitches? Is he saying that the only way India can be ranked highly is to play all tests at home on tracks that suit them even more than before? Is he saying thay India's seam bowlers are so terrible that they can only get 1 for 700 on uplayable green tops? No matter which way you look at it, it seems India thinks their current woes are the fault of someone else. How's that working for you?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    Yes! Absolutely right Mr. Gambhir. Indian curator should produce rank turners against AUS, ENG , NZ , WI & SA. But against Pak, Zim, Ban , SL they should produce green wicket even at home & this pitches must be used to improve Indian batsmen skills against fast , seaming & bouncy wickets.There's no point in being generous & offering teams from SA, AUS & ENG good batting pitches since they do not offer sporting pitches to visiting team. See for Eng, They defeated India 4-0 but I am sure Pak will defeat them 3-0 in the ongoing series in Dubai/Abu Dhabi.Eng just cannot play on spinning tracks.Its hilarious to see Bell, Peterson etc bat against pak spinners & they call themselves no.1. Everything said ..But its also a fact that Gambhir & other Indian batsmen have played poorly in AUS & Eng. No excuse should be given. They could have easily won some of the Tests. May be they will adapt in Adelaide..best of luck!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    gauti do u really mean this...... reading this it just gives a clear picture that u have given up and dont really consider urself good enuf to play good seam/swing bowling.... didnt expect tat from a batsman of ur attitude

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    If he can have a BiG Bat as Big as his attitude he will middle those edges....

  • POSTED BY six-hitter on | January 22, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    Why wouldn't India prepare turning pitches, that is their right. However at least Australia puts up a fight over there. We go to India to try to win, not talk about how good we are at home.

  • POSTED BY rukshank on | January 22, 2012, 7:34 GMT

    Gambhir is correct..... we need to teach a lesson to the englsh/Oz/SA Media and people............ All the Best India.... from Sri Lankan fans

  • POSTED BY Street_Hawk on | January 22, 2012, 7:34 GMT

    I agree to what he is saying...foreign teams should be tested on rank turners when they visit India as they neither have good spinners not batsmen who can play spin properly other than a few like Kallis, Bell, Petersen etc...but at the same time, India should prepare green top and spinning tracks for domestic tournaments where our batsmen and bowlers will learn the technique to bat and ball in both..No matter what, flat track are not desired as they will kill test cricket...nobody wants to watch 5 days of boring cricket...also, rank turners does not mean under prepared wickets

  • POSTED BY shishirji on | January 22, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    fair enough.......prepare rank turner, long time since i saw one in india, last time i remember it was against WI in 2002!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY tarunpatel on | January 22, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    gambhir u r in really backstep with this statement coz india lost really badly n i am sure any others teams will not loose matches like in spinning track in india , u dont know how to play cricket , i am so worndring after your performence since last years , everything is abt money n i am sure u guys doing well in ipl but i am not intrested in ipl coz real cricket is test matches ,.

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 22, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Wow is Gambhir bitter or what?! So the pitches are responsible for Aus bowlers taking 60 wickets? India's bowlers at one point had taken for 1/800. Then he praises the Aus bowlers for consistently putting the ball in the right area! Maybe he should stop worrying about the pitch and stop wafting his bat outside off. As for India preparing rank turners, I thought they already did, and they should keep doing it. Gambhir is just ignoring the issue of India's poor overseas record and their aging batting lineup.

  • POSTED BY sumeetpaul on | January 22, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Even though this is the comment of a loser, I still kind of agree with him. The tourists start whining about the pitch every time India beats them at home with a 'B' team. Why no one says anything against the host country now? India lost in England and got tonnes of criticism. Fine. Why no one criticized England when they lost the ODIs 5-0 to the same Indian side in India? Does anyone even remember that? They say India won the WC because they were playing in India, yeah then we are also Home champions just like Aus and England. There is no difference between India Australia and England then. We are equally good.

    ICC needs to realize that this "Home Advantage" thing is killing cricket. The touring is not getting a chance to compete. I wouldn't have favored Team India based on this comment, but if even Dravid can not perform well on a pitch, the rest of the Team India doesnt stand a chance. The same Aussies wont even get the wicket of Ishant Sharma when they come to India LMAO!!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:28 GMT

    The test is to win in all conditions home or abroad. India is a miserable failure when it comes to winning outside the sub continent,that is a fact.Stop making excuses. I think the fairest way is to have teams play at locations other than their home grounds. For example The Ashes in the Subcontinent or India vs Pakistan in Australia.I love it how Indian players are willing to blame everyone else and everything else besides themselves. The Indian batsmen did not adapt very well ,that is it,its your fault,no one else:s

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:27 GMT

    Stupid, baseless and deceiving ideas. He really wants to hide batting failures. If the tracks were seaming, conditions helping swing, then what the WORLD's best seamers Zaheer and Ishant were doing? If Swan can take 5 wkts in innings then why couldn't Indian spinners in the same condition. More so, NO other country boast of 100+ international tons from their batters combined or of 53K+ runs.... If someone is ALL time GREAT and is always included in ALL TIME XI, he should perform EVERYWHERE.......

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:27 GMT

    If he is quoted directly here it would seem that Gambhir has just lost his dummy and is balling his eyes out. Chin up. I think the blame for India's poor run should be foot squarely at the foot of the Indian team. Their inability to do well in Australia/Eng/SA hasn't been because of the pitches, they've been playing badly! PS Start using the DRS India - if you had it in the first test when Hussey was out a number of times before reaching a match changing 89, you would've won!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    Nothing wrong in what he is saying

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 22, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    Hey Gautam & team India: how about focussing on the fourth test? We wouldn't mind seeing a game out of you lot this summer. We know what kind of wickets will be prepared for us in India: the same as always.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    I'm all for what Gambir has suggested. As long as the pitch doesn't become dangerous it should provide a test for the batsmen and be reflective of the home conditions. There are no surprises these days when it comes to conditions. If an Indian team arrives in England and is unprepared for the swing and seam it is reflective of a very poor management and coaching structure. In the same way if Aus or SA arrive in India (or Sri Lanka) and can't handle the turn then coaches and selectors must be held accountable. Take Sri Lanka in SA as an example. The only batsmen who was able to master the conditions was left out of the initial squad and sent home after the Tests. Madness!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    Dhoni said the same thing when WI toured INDIA........When INDIA was performing well from 2000-2010 outside subcontinent these kind of stupid statements did not came out from the players then.........Instead the attitude should be preparing proper cricket pitches which will help us in the long run in encouraging pace bowlers and batsmen who are adapt to facing pace bowling...........

  • POSTED BY sashlon on | January 22, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    So even the Indian players admit that they can only win consistently if they doctor the wickets. Wow. The thing he's missing (or misrepresenting) is the fact that Australia do not doctor the wickets. Our 6 test grounds are very varied in how they play. The WACA is always good for quicks, and for batsmen who like facing quicks. The SCG is a turning wickets that is good for quicks if they put in the effort, you can also score piles of runs there if you are good enough. The MCG is tough for batting usually, good for seamers. The Adelaide and Bellerive Ovals are both traditionally batsmen's paradises that can turn late in the game, tough for fast bowlers usually. The Gabba is probably the best all-around wicket, it offers good opportunities for everyone. There is a wide variety of conditions in Australia, it's not all bounce. One of the reasons that Australia is a far superior away side than India is precisely because our players play in a wide variety of conditions.

  • POSTED BY rampulaparthi on | January 22, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    so that implies we will win in sub continent and loose on green pitches always ??

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    Wow such a great interview by Mr. Gambhir. He not only insulted the Indian batsmen by but also the Indian "fast" bowlers as well. I mean if the Indian fast bowlers can't take wickets on these pitches where are they going to do it? And another thing where he says India should prepare turning wickets for other teams visiting India, so my question is when was the last time India had lush green pitches for any team that went there??? It's always been spin friendly or batting friendly wickets. So Mr Gambhir stop making excuses and score some runs.

  • POSTED BY darkmon.SL on | January 22, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    I kinda agree with the guy.If they(SA,Aussies,poms) are allowed to make too much greener tops why not SL,IND,PAK,Bang. allowed to make fully turning dust bowls ? they ban dust bowl pitches BUT not too much green tops.Also in subcontinent when they make spinning friendly pitches they call 'em flat tracks and players who can play spin well they call 'em flat track bullies.BUT nobody call saffers,aussies or poms fast track bullies but in reality they are.I mean come on look how england is loosing,in 3 days and you call 'em great team ?? For a good contest of cricket pitch should be fair to both batsmen and bowlers imho,not what is happening in most places now days

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    so that we can continue to be lions at home and cats abroad? it's not about what constitutes a "good" pitch, it's not abt pacy wickets being good and spinning tracks bad, it's about whether we want to win on all kinds of tracks or not.

  • POSTED BY agupta429 on | January 22, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    exactly!!!!!! ive been saying the same ever since I saw the pitches England prepared..

  • POSTED BY AlpineWalker on | January 22, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    Excellent point Gautam. Do prepare rank turners in India. No problem. But when you go to Australia, England and South Africa, be prepared for such seaming and swinging conditions. May be practise in places like Mohali or Panchashala (I am not sure if I spelled it correct) for or month and then you can handle all the swinging condtions etc. Nothing wrong in preparing rank turners. Should appreciate your thought process. Not many people will accept it, here is my Thumbs Up for your idea. Hope some one in BCCI is listening.

  • POSTED BY Lakpj on | January 22, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    Gambhir should stop talking and score something substantial in Adelaide. Then people will listen to what you tell. Here you are becoming nothing but a joke. Batsman have weaknesses to foreign conditions. But you should admit that the Indian batsman are pathetic in that regard.

  • POSTED BY Synex_SL on | January 22, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Totally agree with Gambhir. But for your info one of the recent sporting wickets created in Galle got reprimanded by the ICC. Where as the wickets in the Centurion for SA V SL match was praised by the SA media.

    I think he is talking sense we should prepare rank turner which spits on the 4th and the 5th day with total disintegration.

  • POSTED BY SalmanHaider on | January 22, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Gambhir should realize that 'rank turners' also carries the risk of putting to death any future fast bowling prospects for India. People like Yadav--who have clear potential to be fast and furious--can decay on dead tracks and end up being medium fast and then into obscurity. As much as tracks should be prepared for 'home advantage', no doubting that, there needs to be a balance. In a home tour, keep a couple dead ones for turn, but then allow fast bowlers to deliver the goods too.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    gambhir totally lost a point here conditions in india never favored seamers indian tracks are flat turners that assist the spinners from the 1st session of day 1 and whenever india loose a test match at home bcci instructs the curator of the next test venue 2 prepare rank turner as happened when southafrica beat india in 2008(motera) and 2010(nagpur) ..... such a lame excuse gautham is openly admitting that indian batsman are in competent on bouncy and grassy pitches which will aid the fast bowlers..... a true batsman is the one who prove himself by scoring runs in all conditions it shouldn't be like tigers at home and lambs abroad...try 2 change this tag and adopt your game 2 fast pitches around the world

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    I think there seems to be a valid point from Gambhir....although I am a staunch Australian supporter, I would like to see Aussies performing the same way especially in India (although they have done reasonably well in the subcontinent in the past).......and provided their pace battery is patient enough like Mcgrath and co used to be while hunting for wickets and if Lyon or any other spinner does well or at least plays a supporting role in curbing the scoring rate, I see no reason why this Australian team not topple India in its own backyard........also Indian batting lineup is really weak when you take out VVS,Wall and Tendu....so once these three retire, I sense India could struggle winning tests even at home....

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    @Gambhir, what a childish excuse of weak performance. The pitch definitely helps, but not to that extent, a good player always adjust himself according to the field condition, Indian batsmen like Sachin, Dravid and laxman have vast experience of cricketing, but their performance were not up to the mark which resulted a massive DEFEAT. If Gambhir claims that the opponents would be tested , the same could be claimed by the visitor...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    That's right. it's always easy to find faults, all teams plays well in their own backyard, when they start playing poorly in their own condition, that's when one should really feel that something need to be done with team.

    In first test, match was going at par till last day when we let then give target of 290. that was achievable but once india start loosing wickets, it's start loosing confidence, once down in confidence in bouncy tracks, it's difficult to get back soon..

    Ausi was 27/4, worse than india in any inning but they are used to get out of these conditions as bouncy wickets can change rhythm very fast. India not playing enough enough on bouncy tracks, led to lack of experience of coming out sooner then Ausi, End and south africans.

    In any case, we need persons like Ganguly who are fighters in foreign conditions, Doni has played safe in number of test and ended in draw when we could had won .

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    I think Gambhir calls the period of 40 to 70 overs as middles session. We are 4 down by 40th over and all out by 65th, so why is there a statement about "middle order" being even bowled in the middle session?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    seems like gambhir is scared.

  • POSTED BY dragon_2712 on | January 22, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    Gautam might be resilient at the crease, but I've always thought of him as a complainer and here is more proof. You'd NEVER hear Tendulkar or Dravid spout such rubbish. Australian curators don't prepare green surfaces, like you'd find in South Africa or England. They prepare pitches that will offer something for everyone. Bowl first and you'll find some movement, but if you bat first and knuckle down for the first half hour anywhere in the country you'll find scoring far easier. Besides, there has been very little lateral movement off the seam. The Aussie bowlers are finding swing through the air, which is more technique and good length more than anything else. Bottom line is Gautam wants the kind of pitch where both sides can make 500+ runs and have it finish in a draw. Slow, low, and dead. Which not only undermines the skills that his fellow batsmen now bring to the centre, but continue to cover his own deficiencies.

  • POSTED BY Chuck_Nunchuck on | January 22, 2012, 7:07 GMT

    Touche!!

  • POSTED BY RJHB on | January 22, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    Ahhh it just keeps coming from the Indians. Ok go and prepare your rank turners, your batsmen still won't be able to make runs on them anymore than anyone else because you only play on dead flat pitches now at home! And then you'll still get thrashed when you go overseas every two years or so! Indian cricket are the new rednecks of the cricketing world, serious, serious flat earth thinking!! I feel very sorry for their extremely loyal, genuinely thoughtful fans out there. Disgraceful.

  • POSTED BY backwardpoint on | January 22, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    Pot calling the kettle black. First, it was Dhoni who asked for rank turners after the WI series. In the final match in India against WI. Now its Gambhir. Brilliant. I would be very scared if I were an Indian seamer now.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    Ok, They can prepare the spin wickets but where are the bowlers? Bedi, Chandra, Prasanna, Venkat, Doshi, Yadav,Manindar, Kumble are in history books now. Bajji has lost his bite. Ashwin, Ojha, Chawla - long way to go. That, we have seen even in ecently concluded series against lowly ranked WI.

  • POSTED BY Pakistanvictorious on | January 22, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    What a joke mr Ghambir, he has himself accepted the fact that they are only great in home conditions and turnig tracks.What a shame for a world champion's opener to say that they should prepare rank turners at home even after facing 7-0 defeat overseas. They should prepare pictches which help you overcome your fratilities instead of masking your weaknesses and going for records. I also wanted to point out the fact the weakest team against spin WI has just outclassed mighty Indian batting in two test on series, if they had overcome the second innings collapse, they would have won both times at rank turners in India. So don't make a mockery of cricket and please prepare supporting pitches at home to prepare your young batsman fro future asssignment overseas. One more thing to say if the pitches overseas were unplayable then why had Indian bowlers struggled to get wickets, and why other teams have piled up runs on the same tracks.

  • POSTED BY sgguy on | January 22, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Fully agree with GG.. Nothing wrong in playing to the Home Strength. The moment we prepare spin tracks will start jumping !

  • POSTED BY indian786rock on | January 22, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    yup......its crct what have been told by Gambir :0

    if they wil come to india.......they wil kicked by us lol.................

    INdian always roxxx.....................

    sidddarth monga is the worst editor i have ever see :X

  • POSTED BY hamqad on | January 22, 2012, 7:00 GMT

    Aren't pitches in India already made to favor the home team? Oh no wait, Indian curators never make flat, high scoring pitches, that are conducive to spin. Or do they?

    I am a big fan of Gambhir's batting, but, sadly, he has completely missed the point of this debate. Yes India should definitely make pitches that gives it home advantage. But India already does that, and so does every other country. That is why England lost when it came to India and is loosing to Pakistan now.

    Last, going by Gambhir's logic of how a good bowler (which apparently Siddle is not) should be able to bowl well outside his backyard, a good batsmen should also be able to perform in difficult conditions like those in Australia. And that is the point of the whole argument. which Gambhir has not been able to comprehend.

  • POSTED BY stark-truth on | January 22, 2012, 6:59 GMT

    Only God knows what horrors will befall Indian cricket if Gambhir ever becomes the skipper! He seems to have a sourly vindictive rather than than a systematic rectification approach towards addressing failures.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    I think he is right to say this. I always believe that subcontinent teams should prepare pitches with huge supports for spinners and then win matches. If Enland, Australia or South Africa can prepare pitches which support for pace bowlers, why not subcontinent teams go with spin friendly pitches? Then, after some times, we can judge who are best teams who win almost all home matches and some overseas. I have seen for example Sri Lanka prepare pitches which helps seamers so they cannot win matches in Sri Lanka either. How then Sri Lanka becomes a good team? we havent seen anyday in history Enland, Australia or South Africa gave spin frindly pitches for subcontinent teams. If they always play in seam frindly pitches at home, let them loss at subcontinent. Then, they will realise how subcontinent teams feel there. Either everyone go with fair pitches or go with home advantages. It should not be that EA, SA, AG play in seam friendly pitches at home and then on fair pitches in subcontinenet

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | January 22, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    Mr Gambhir do you forget where cricket actually started? Cricket would never have gotten off the ground as a sport on flat dusty wickets where the ball doesn't get about your navel. Cricket flourished because of the exciting cricket played on English and Australian wickets. No-one wants to see a Galle or Wankhede dustbowl where batsman play every ball off the front foot for five days and declare for 950. People want to see exciting test cricket and flat Indian wickets are the sure way to kill it.

  • POSTED BY S.Jagernath on | January 22, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    It is very obvious,Indian pitches should favour India and Indians play spin exceptionally.Indian pitches should still vary at both first class level & test cricket.Preparing green tops at first class will help produce batsmen & bowlers that can do well in all conditions.Gautam Gambhir has just proven that Rahul Dravid,Sachin Tendulkar & Sunil Gavaskar are the only real great batsmen that India have produced.Rahul Dravid & Sachin Tendulkar have been excellent in all conditions,unlike Brian Lara or Ricky Ponting.Dravid & Tendulkar are peerless in their generation.India have unfortunately not produced a bowler of similar quality.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    He is not thinking about improving his batting on bouncy tracks, instead he wants spinning (flat) tracks in India so that he could get that average back up again. Typical FLAT TRACK BULLY!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    Rightly put....Test cricket is becoming a farce since everyone wins in their backyard! The Ashes are an exception because the two countries involved have similar wickets and conditions, more or less in their own countries!

    This is not to be used as an excuse by anyone... but, this is how these tours are!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    It is understood of the talented Mr. Gambhir to be frustrated having faced 7 defeats in a row in testing conditions. But the true character of a champion is one who prioritizes his form of play and own analysis rather than thinking so much about the attack in the opposition. We should rather learn focus and confidence from players like David Warner who says that he scores freely because he feels the majority is back of the wicket so he hits in front for runs throughout and not like Mr. Gambhir who asks for an acute turners back home. India being a country with immense talent and capabilities should be able to provide with comparable tracks as in Australia and England so players would not be surprised and fall like pack of cards on foreign soil this would not only make is testable in all conditions but also come out as a comprehensive product so we could evade the homesickness in us. I hope to see this sooner than watch another set of Indian players biting the dust on foreign soil.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    We have been beaten fair and square, and I feel we should stop bickering about it. This sort of attitude defeats the purpose of the game. Sydney did not look to be the grassiest of pitches, in fact it looked quite benign. We should instead work through this strong patch and come out stronger

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    A Champion Team is not one which makes its home condition favorable and beats every visiting team.. You need to go Overseas and Win matches in their own backyard.. which India has failed to do now. Mr.Gambhir please work on your batting.. Your dismal opening stands off late with Sehwag are a reason for our defeats

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | January 22, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    Well said Gautam, No need to be nice and helpful to these guys. Let them dance when they come to India. Problem is, our curators have their own agendas.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    yes every country plays on its own strength but that does not gives any excuses of 7 consecutive losses overseas. in earlier tours we have won matches overseas, at that time was also the same scenario. so please stop complaining about the pitches and conditions and play according to the situation demands. at least try to win or atleast draw the 4th test. coz we don't want another 4-0 whitewash.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    There no issue in having a 'rank turners' for test matches but there must be bouncy track made available for the Domestic Cricket in India. It is simple that we play according to our strength but we must also make an effort to be prepared for alien condition when we are on a tour.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    Ah what a cry baby he is. Really sorry to read this

  • POSTED BY sifter132 on | January 22, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    I hear his point (and completely disagree...) but if Australia had really wanted to ram home the green top advantage, then they would have played in Brisbane and Hobart instead of Sydney and Adelaide. The Kiwis saw greener pitches than the Indians have, and they managed to win a game!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    Cry Baby attitude being exihibited by Gambhir here. Wont say much in reply to gautam, but even the WACA itslef wasnt that pacey when he visited there recently. And no matter how tough, 0-7 loss is very poor.

  • POSTED BY degiant on | January 22, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    An opening batsman calling for a 'rank turner', what is test cricket coming to, maybe he is afraid of pace. To be #i, you must win in all conditions and this is why WI and Aus at their best did for years unlike the #i pretenders SA [just a few months] India the same and now England who has been exposed by Pak

  • POSTED BY mohanan on | January 22, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    Well said! Bravo! But let's hope that doesn't backfire ;)

  • POSTED BY anindya_mozumdar on | January 22, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    There are two kinds of spinning tracks - the genuine turners (usually Chennai comes to mind) and the broken ones (Eden Gardens WC semi-final India vs Srilanka, 2001 Wankhede Test Australia vs India where Warne got Dravid bowled round the legs). If it is a genuine turning track and the Indian spinners do well while the tourists struggle, I agree that Gambhir has a point. If it's a broken pitch and the ball turns 90 degrees, then it is just a fluke whoever wins.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    how did things come to this...india losing overseas may not have been news before 83 but here our "best opener since Gavaskar" is crying out aloud.read these words : "Even in the middle sessions they kept hitting those areas, and never let us score freely. As we all know Indians are known to score runs freely. Most of our middle order has been boundary hitters. They never let us score those boundaries. Never gave us balls where we can score freely. Especially in that middle session."how different does that sound from a 10 year old who comes home and says "mama!!they never let me write/draw/play.....they always keep bullying me..!!!"for gods sake..Gauti you need a break or may be permanent retirement from this cruel world!!!i really feel for him and his mates...and i mean it...and another thrashing is bound to happen in a couple of days....feel like someone who has read earthquake warning and is bound to watch helplessly and cry with the victims...RIP indian cricket...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    Ahh..this sounds like a return to the good old days of 1990s..where victories by and large came on made to order home pitches in India while victories outside of subcontinent were as unlikely as Courtney Walsh getting his first half-century...all hard work done of Ganguly et all in the last decade undone by utter incompetence and complacency

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    With this attitude , India will be thrashed 4-0 again if 'rank turners ' are provided to visiting teams. Its funny when he talks about rank turners when they dont play their premier spinner Ojha in any of the matches !! Dude its all in the mind..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    Seems fair that we should prepare pitches that play to our strength but this is no excuse to loosing 7 test matches. wearing that Indian cap did not come easy and you guys earned it which mean there is class in the team. To loosing there is no excuse.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    Surely agree with gambhir, Ranker turners are needed to be prepared against these green track bullies. But BCCI must must make sure that domestic matches are played on seamer friendly tracks and not on patta wickets like in Ranji Final.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    What a joke! Can mr. Gambhir tell us when India give a fair track to vistors? at least can u mention one track which assist for fast bowlers? in australia Sydney and Adelaide are fair tracks for sub continent visitors.u cant talk about tracks. now u people are World champs, (though still doubt about win) u have to win both home and away, exactly aussies did in last decade

  • POSTED BY badsac on | January 22, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    Isn't it already the case that in India? If it isn't a road, it's a rank turner? Or is talking about more pitches like is one?

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64102.html

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    Too much crying... The pitch is same for both team. australia scored over 600 runs

  • POSTED BY cricfan80 on | January 22, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    I'm not sure what Gautam is on about here? Every country prepares pitches that suit their team. That is part of the advantage of playing at home. India already prepare pitches that spin. That always have.

    Having said that the pitches in this tour havn't been overly green at all. Australia's bowling has been good for the most part and India's batting has been poor most of the time. India have also had 3 seamers in each match and have played on the same wicket. They simply havn't played well enough and Australia has improved a bit. I think he is looking at the wrong reasons for why they have been beaten in both series!!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    Yes! I'd love a return to the days of Bedi, Prasanna, Chandrasekhar and Venkataraghavan - as long as this does not stifle a new Kapil Dev and as long as India can shine overseas as they did at the Oval in 1979 or at Lord's in 1983.

  • POSTED BY hsg7668 on | January 22, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    OH...THANK GOD! At last one cricketer loudly told what i wanted to say!! 100% TRUE, why all experts thinks that only facing FAST BOWLING is everything...let ENGLAND, AUS and SA face spin DANCE test in INDIA...LANKA ..and PAK and then let's see who is the BEST! It's sad that we forgot our GREAT SPINNERS and trying impress others by trying to give them the pitch what they want when AUS/ENG/SA tour asia and get screw ourselves. This shows clearly we are bad in promoting our own SPECIALITY...Thanks GAMBIR...for loudly telling the TRUTH. BCCI, you better wake up asap!

  • POSTED BY 1276666 on | January 22, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    Sounds more like "sour grapes" Gautty lol..and ravi shastri said that india would beat pakistan 8 out of 10 times on green top. india lost 4-0 to england and its already 3-0 to australia, and chances are australia will beat india 4-0..that would make it a perfect 8-0..congratulations india & ravi. cheers! cricinfo please post.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Ummm... India already have been doing this for decades...

  • POSTED BY vashw on | January 22, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Gambhir sounds like a frustrated man. He might be talking right . but this is definitely not the time to utter such a statement.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:41 GMT

    LOL WHAT A JOKE ...and what a great reasoning... Being an international cricketer and that too when u have played more then enough games, you should have the skills to adapt every condition ! Instead of improving, indian batsmen are now weeping and crying over all this situation !! Despite of considering their losses a lesson, this sort of article can put forward a certain mind set which clearly states that indians will only take charge when they will play at home, and for all the outside India games, their plea would be "STRENGTHS OF THE OTHERS" !!... That's disapointing.

  • POSTED BY ajayr91 on | January 22, 2012, 6:41 GMT

    Lots of drama!!!! First, win a game overseas then do the talking!

  • POSTED BY KingofRedLions on | January 22, 2012, 6:41 GMT

    Tells you a lot about Indian mindset right now. None of the three Australian pitches have had an abundance of grass on them. They haven't been wildly moving around. Australia has just bowled better.

  • POSTED BY TopOrder_ on | January 22, 2012, 6:40 GMT

    enough testing of the other teams at home grounds in india (from 2008-2011), now its time to prove your self.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:39 GMT

    As a Sri Lankan, I Fully agree with Gambhir, why should the sub continent teams only have to face the music of playing on green tops ( the ones their not accustomed to),, So its only fair that the visiting teams to the subcontinent play on turning wickets,,,, it will only make cricket more interesting, and no doubt make it more challenging!!!!!

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | January 22, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    Yeah, I dont mind if you prepare us rank turners mate. The problem is, more often than not you just prepare dead flat tracks and draw half your matches while squeaking in a win. Defensive cricket is your problem and it always will be with Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:36 GMT

    Agree completely, lets not be the nice guys of Cricket anymore. England lost miserably just recently coming from demolishing us in English conditions. Make no mistake. This Aussie team is no where close to the champion team of 90's and the invincibility will erode further once they play on dry tracks in subcontinent.

    Even so, nothing can take away the lack of fight that's been on display from our team . No amount of conditions prevents you from making a contest and Mr Gambhir , there is no hiding behind that.

  • POSTED BY rossco911 on | January 22, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Dear Gambhir India will still cry if they bat last in the 4th Inns on a Turner So, Stop !! Bcoz u guys dont have any excuses. Just an Over Hyped Batting Line Up.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Sounds like a little baby crying to me. "MOMMY!!! Johny doesn't want to play at my house! I don't like playing at his house, the grass makes my skin itchy!"

  • POSTED BY farkin on | January 22, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    here we go the poor poor pitiful India routine again cant get a fair game over seas

  • POSTED BY grug76 on | January 22, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    hang on a second... by gambhir's logic about fast bowlers, shouldn't zaheer, ishant and all the other indian seamers who can bowl well on the sub-continent be absolute world-beaters on our "juiced up" pitches??? just face it mate... you and your team have been pumped by a bunch of blokes who have played better cricket than you!

  • POSTED BY RohithMedisetty on | January 22, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    But then the ICC would deem the pitch as ' not suitable for test cricket'.

  • POSTED BY Hodra99 on | January 22, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    Of course he does.....he and his team cant play on anything else...

  • POSTED BY trumpoz on | January 22, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    In Australia the curators have the autonomy to prepare the pitch as they see fit. Each pitch is unique and the curators have historically tried to create pitches that are different from the rest of the country. They do not play to the strengths of a country. Instead of preparing rank turners in India why not start to look at why your team is losing on bouncier wickets? Maybe try to prepare livelier wickets for your domestic competition so that batsman and bowlers can develop their skills on different pitch types (though Zaheer and Umesh Yadav have bowled very well this series). Continuing to prepare rank turners or dead wickets means that your players will never fully develop. But hey, according to the head of the BCCI home tests are the only ones worth winning. With that attitude from the top India will never be a great test team, only flat-track bullies.

  • POSTED BY Nepali_Boy on | January 22, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    I agree with Gambhir!! Australians, Englishmen and South African cricketers has poor thinking that bowling is only pace. The beauty of cricket is combination of all. Neither of the countries have ever gambled making pitch competitive to visiting team. Which is shame for Test cricket!! I think ICC should send curators from visiting countries to prepare pitches for Test match. This would make Test match interesting and will have longer future. Otherwise teams will become strong on their backyard and will be biting dust when they go overseas. Until now, Gambhir is right! India should prepare pitches like Mumbai 2005 Wenkede to test overseas visitors. This will keep trend of getting 3/ 4 day result..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    i think India and gambhir should focus on playing the current series rather than worrying about the rank turners in India. it is this attitude that has let the indian team down. being aggressive is one thing and being complacent/arrogant is another. for a very long time the Indian team has been arrogant and they have not looked to identify their flaws. i believe India should focus on the Adelaide more than anything. this comes from a Pakistani fan who admires Indian cricket.

  • POSTED BY djdrastic on | January 22, 2012, 6:31 GMT

    By rank turning , I guess you mean flat featherbeds for your paper tigers to score 700 on yes ? Australia might lose when they come to India but you can bet your bottom dollar they wont lose 4-0/5-0 like you guys do when they go overseas.

  • POSTED BY SmellyCat on | January 22, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    Absolutely... playing spin is also a skill just like playing on bouncing, seaming tracks.. however the Indians should also focus on getting better in overseas conditions.. so the domestic cricket should be played on all kinds of pitches..

  • POSTED BY Aashish_goyal on | January 22, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    Better you pay attention to your own batting.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Exactly the remedy for Indian overseas woes.. These type of thinking will keep them the Kings of sub continent & paupers elsewhere..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Just to prove what a loser u and your team are

  • POSTED BY SRT_GENIUS on | January 22, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Awesome Idea!!!! PS: As long as Ranji Elite is played on Green tops (so we know which batsman can "travel").

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    exactly!!!! we should support gambhir and the indian curators should definitely prepare turners to the visiting team

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    i think lot of talk goin around the world about indian batting & technic. what ghambir said was right......................................

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    he must be dumb if he thinks india is not doing that.

  • POSTED BY Magchennai on | January 22, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    I totally agree with what Gambhir is telling. We should stick to our strengths, Indian fans should not whine when we put ran turners. We can complain only when we have a dead batting track which isn't producing result. If they put a pitch where in 4 pace bowlers are included, we should put a pitch where we can go with 4 spinners. Having said that.. We should be prepared to play in foreign conditions, we should send our players to play county matches and other BBLs.. etc.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    What a load. As though India have been doing visiting teams favours. lol. Their tracks make batting first best and run scoring is easy initially - and they degenerate very quickly starting day 1 allready. I dont mind - I agree that wickets need to be prepared to suit home team strengths. The wickets hes been playing on are not greentops. Theyr good old balanced tracks that give quicks a bit of aid initially and would take some turn day 4 and 5. Problem is, thanks to 20/20, no ones got the technique to last that long on these tracks anymor. If anyone, especially India - got an actual greentop, theyd call off the match after 4 overs. India need to realise the world doesnt revolve around them. Indian pitches are not the standard that other people should aspire too. For too long they (the BCCI) have bullied opposing countries into preparing flat tracks for them and their batsmen profited. Its a fallacy that India have played well on bouncy Oz tracks before. This is the 1st time in 10 yrs.

  • POSTED BY DineshBajaj on | January 22, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    These comments really show the mental bankruptcy of Gautam Gambhir. Instead of admitting his incompetency against fast and swing bowling, and working on his technique to remove this incompetency, he is advocating rank turners for home pitches. He want to show to the world that the utter incompetent display by the Indian team in Australia and Engnland was no big deal and it is OK to be home Tigers and woeful visitors. My only fear is that some fans/players/administrators will support his stand in the name of home pride. That will really be a shame for Indian Cricket if that happens.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    GAMBHIR HAS BEEN SLEEPING ALL THESE YEARS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO INFORM HIM THAT EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST BY BCCI.THE PITCHES IN INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN BIG TURNERS AND STILL INDIA HAS BEEN ABLE TO PERFORM WELL IN PATCHES ONLY. HE THINKS HE CAN BAT BETTER ON TURNERS, SORRY MR. GAMBHIR YOU ARE THE KING OF DEAD PITCHES ONLY YOU CANNOT EVEN HANDLE BIG TURNERS. PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT YOUR DETAILED STATISTICS AND SOON YOU WILL TAKE BACK THESE COMMENTS.STOP BOASTING & CONCENTRATE ON PLAYING BETTER WHICH WELL HELP TEAM INDIA BETTER THAN YOUR IGNORANT COMMENTS.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    That's how a loser talks. If the Pitch is so supporting to the Seam bowers then what Indian pacers are doing? Why they are not able to take benefit?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    We need more men like Gautam Gambhir for the future of Indian cricket. While everyone acknowledges we have a problem facing short balls on pacy, bouncy tracks and wants to get something done about it, in our preparations for tours on pacy pitches (which are not yet in place), and the domestic levels, etc, gautam has already found the solution to our problem: Avoiding the problem completely. Well done Gauti. This is fantastic future-oriented thinking.

    The BCCI will love you for this.

    In 2014, after we've creamed the rest of the world on spinner friendly tracks for 2 years, when we tour England, RSA and Australia it will be the same sorry white-wash story once again.

  • POSTED BY 9ST9 on | January 22, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    Watch it mate. SL prepared a rank turner at galle laast year and it was Nathan Lyon who prospered most from it.

  • POSTED BY splitty23 on | January 22, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    I disagree with Gambhir in the fact he mentions ' The important thing is once you start doing well in subcontinent, that's when you are rated as a very good bowler'. It should be the same for him and his batting mates. Once they do well outside the subcontinent is when they can be rated a very good batter.

  • POSTED BY kirkeet-fan on | January 22, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    What he's forgetting is that India DOES NOT have spinners who can take 20 wickets in a Test match.

  • POSTED BY BellCurve on | January 22, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    Sorry Gautum, that's a rotten idea. Indian fans want to see their batting heroes score lots and lots of runs and reach milestone after milestone. "Rank turners" will stifle the flow of runs. Dravid and Tendulkar's averages will come down even more. It's not going to do the popularity of Test cricket in India any favours. I would therefore stick with the strategy of preparing flat tracks. Otherwise Sehwag's average will very soon be below 50.

  • POSTED BY dhoni_sachin_fan on | January 22, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    what a shameful comment....

  • POSTED BY eyballfallenout on | January 22, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    Gambhir, you sound like a child who couldn't get something from the shop. These wickets are not doctored for you mate, they are normal cricket wickets. Why should some have to perform in india to be great, you guys need to get over yourselves, you are not the bees knees in cricket.....Pathetic

  • POSTED BY its.rachit on | January 22, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    a loser's plea ..... tho i agree with gambhir but the timing is very wrong ....

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 22, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    Well said Gambhir. Proud of you. At last an Indian after Dhoni has some spine in letting the world know that there are two kinds of bowlers - spinners and pacers and two kinds of tracks - pace friendly and spin friendly. For some wierd reason the phrase pace friendly tracks has become synonymous with bowler friendly tracks. If that be the case, the phrase spin friendly tracks is also synonymous with bowler friendly tracks. Simple as that. Next, if pace friendly wickets can be called as proper cricket wickets then spinner friendly wickets are also proper cricket wickets. England even didn't hesitate to use special duke balls from 2010 when we toured them. We don't have to go that far. Let's prepare rank turners when England and Australia visit us and let's see what their batsman and their pacers have in store.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:16 GMT

    All that shall lead to will be India winning at home while continuously losing abroad... Need to prepare green pitches at home too so that the batsmen can get used to the conditions outside home so that they don't get thrashed like they did in ENgland or Australia!

  • POSTED BY Capt.Hilts on | January 22, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    Every team has right to take home advantage. But its wrongly placed as well. Out of Batsmen, Spinners & Pacers - Pacers are most injury prone. Conditions may suit them or not, they do the most difficult job in cricket atleast physically. While people who support rank turners as part of home advantage, same people like T20 for its entertainment value. Same way they should know that Umesh Yadav bowling at 150Ks is much better to watch than Vinay Kumar at 120Ks. Fast bowling is exciting, and while they shouldn't be given undue assistance from pitches, its only fair that they get a fair pitch and not the flat decks that nullify their threat altogether. Pitches with juice only balances things, they aren't biased towards Pacers. Plus all these talks of greatest batting line up in world, they should be able to cope up with these kind of movements, else what good are they. Rank Turners will make pacers extinct and overblown ordinary batting display.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    Agree with him.. The Aussie bowlers are far better than the Engish bowlers were..

  • POSTED BY luks on | January 22, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    Gambhir is unbelievably clueless. Australia has lost only two times by an innings in India in the entire history of playing cricket in India (both those defeats were before 2000). Whereas, India has just lost twice by an innings in the last month. Gambhir, the record already shows that even though Australia may lose on rank turners in India, they will never be as pathetic on the field and in attitude as this Indian team has been in Australia. And, Australia has just won a series on spinning pitches in Sri Lanka. This in spite of the fact that Australia have lost their key players and are rebuilding with a new pace attack. Gambhir, we as Indians are really disappointed in you for speaking such utter rubbish.

  • POSTED BY gestapo on | January 22, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    so that you lose a test in two days when you go away.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    rank turnes or green top u got to play well and adap to the conditions quickly to score runs

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    At last GAMBHIR makina point after seven losses about what to be done.

    Atleast BCCI considers this - Let's Hope....

  • POSTED BY yogi.s on | January 22, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    Ishant sharma and kohli's sledge to warner and now gambhir's comments show that after the battering they received they have no confidence in their abilities to play overseas and that more than anything else is the sad part. Whether non-asian teams fail or succeed in india, the results of england and aus series wont change so accept you have been outplayed and strive to perform well instead of making such illogical comments.It is really a shame and matter of deep concern that young indian players think in this way.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    Gambhir is absolutely correct!! People who question Indian batsmen technique at overseas should also know that Australia last visited India to play 2 Test Series in India in 2010 and India beat them 2-0, before that in 2008 also India beat them 2-0. Australia have not been able to win a single Test out of the last 7 Tests they played in India!! And Ponting & Clarke average 26 and 38 in India!! While Indian batsmen are better then Aussies with Tendulkar[55], Sehwag[47], Laxman[45] & Dravid[43] all averaging above 40 in Australia!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    What a shame! Didn't expect this from Gambhir. Instead of saying that we should have green pitches in India, so we can learn how to play on the fast, bouncy wickets he is opting for all spin tracks. Indian players will never learn!

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | January 22, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    Totally agree. No problems at all about countries preparing wickets that suit them. It adds so much more interest to cricket. Cricket got boring in the last 10 years or so because everyone was trying to prepare the same wicket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    Gautam, you are absolutely correct if they all r best in their home condition then we also very best in our home condition.we need good turning tracks when they r come to our home.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    This is exactly the sort of attitude that has taken Indian test cricket to where it is.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    As if India don't get the "rank turners" on their home turfs . That's only where the likes of Tendulkar wil get their Tons . Gambhir has turned out to be cry baby

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    I agree Gautam. We must play to our strengths.

  • POSTED BY Cric12345au on | January 22, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    Oh, come on! Gambhir, you must be joking.If india wants to improve overseas, they need to get used to playing conditions, and the only way to do that is to get used to green pitches. Yeah, yeah, Gambhir, is it only because of the bowling conditions? In those 7 tests, 3 of the 7 test were played on flat pitches, so, why are you still doing so badly,huh? Warner made 180 at the WACA, why couldn't you? No improvement in siddle's bowling? He a better bowler than he ever was.I guess this is why India are doing so badly.India are never going to be number 1 like this.

  • POSTED BY Sudee143 on | January 22, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    Dear Gambhir - u guys are world level players, not an Club Level player..... u shouldn't be complaining about the Pitches made by overseas country.... u real potential and technique will be shown on those kind of pitches,,, not the dusty , low pitches like in india...

  • POSTED BY Punter_RickyFan on | January 22, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    This is real loser's mentality why all of sudden these things coming up..also not all the 7 pitches were supporting fast bowlers..Sydney was as flat as road..also Lords and Birmingham were good batting tracks..Grass on pitch means something we had in NZ some 6-7 years back..

  • POSTED BY akshay1994 on | January 22, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    Could not agree more. It is hypocritical to praise grassy wickets and complain about rank turners as being unfair. I really hope that the next home series India plays, every test match starts turning right from the first day.

  • POSTED BY sportofpain on | January 22, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    Couldn't agree more with him. Many people mistakenly think that we should prepare bouncy tracks at home so that we can play better abroad. That thinking is poor. Do the Aussies prepare rank turners in Australia to prepare for Indian conditions? Of course they don't. So why should we play into their hands by preparing bouncy tracks? The tracks in india should all be raging turners. If they can beat us on those wickets, good for them. Also complaints that those tracks are 'not fit for cricket' as the Aussies complained after losing in Mumbai in 2003 on a raging turner should not be given the time of day.

    Teams should be able to conquer different conditions - best example is tennis where the French open is played on clay, Wimbledon on grass and the Australian and US Open on synthetic surfaces. Great players do well on at least 3 of those surfaces. Similarly great cricket teams learn to conquer different conditions

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT GAMBHIR SAID. WE TALK OF "SPORTING" PITCHES BUT WHAT DO THE OPPOSITE TEAMS DO? GREEN TOP PITCHES CANT BE LABELLED AS SPORTING PITCHES! WE INDIANS ARE IN A CONFUSED STATE OF MIND. WE ARE THE NO.1 SPORTING ADMINISTRATION IN THE WORLD AND WE USE IT FOR SILLY THINGS. HIGH TIME WE USE IT TO OUR ADVANTAGE AND TELL THE WORLD, THAT INDIA IS THE FINANCIAL AS WELL AS EMOTIONAL HUB OF CRICKET IN THE WORLD. IF NOT FOR INDIA, THE WORLD CRICKET WOULD HAVE LOST ITS WAY. WHATEVER YOU SAY, AN UMESH YADAV WOULD ATTRACT MORE CROWDS THAN A PETER SIDDLE OR STAURT BROAD.. THIS IS THE MENTALITY OF INDIAN CRICKET.. HIGH TIME, WE USE THE POWERS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND USE IT FOR BETTERMENT OF INDIAN CRICKET.

  • POSTED BY royramesh on | January 22, 2012, 6:02 GMT

    GAMBHIR SHOULD KNOW THE RULES: HOME COUNTIES CANNOT PREPARE PITCHES FAVOURING THE HOST TEAM. THAT IS OUTLAWED. I AGREE SOME COUNTRIES DO IT BUT IT IS WRONG. CAN HE SAY WHAT IS DIFFERENT IN THE AUSSIE PITCHES IN THIS TOUR FROM THE LAST 100 YEARS. ALSO DIDNT THE INDIAN BATSMEN GO THERE A MONTH EARLIER TO GET USED TO THE BOUNCE? WHY GAMBHIR DONT ACCEPT THAT HIS FISHING OUTSIDE THE OFF STUMP IS HIS AND HIS MATES MAIN PROBLEM. AS FAR AS HE IS CONCERNED IS HE NOT AN OPENING BAT AND SO HE SHOULD HAVE LEARNT TO PLAY OR LEAVE THE SWINGING AND SEAMING BALL?

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    west indies and aussied ruled the cricket world in real manners coz they won everywhere.....now a days champions r lion in their home..

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    GRAPES ARE SOUR!!! they certainly are

  • POSTED BY donda on | January 22, 2012, 6:00 GMT

    I don't get it , what ghambir is trying to say; Indian pitches are always spinner paradise and never supported fast bowlers at all. What is meant by Turner, i think he is refering to one pitch in mumbai in 2004 when clarke took 6 wickets but still india won that test match.

    This is classic example of excuse by indian batsmen that they cannot play on fast wickets.

    The aussies of 2004 did beat india in india under ghili and that's why that team was consider the real #1.

    First indian batsmen need to stay on the wicket of any type especially fast.

  • POSTED BY johnathonjosephs on | January 22, 2012, 6:00 GMT

    Well said. Gambhir is a great player for India and the rest of its future. He has won India a World Cup and he is correct. I feel Lanka and India will start preparing "rank turners" now and if the ICC declares the pitches to be "unfit" like the ludacris gesture to the 2nd Test of Aus in Lanka last year, then the whole system needs a restructure. How that pitch was considered unfit for play (rank turner) when the South African pitch with the 73 and 43 scores were considered fine is extremely unjust and unfair

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    gautii u dont hav a winner attitude. if u remember stave waugh comment during first test match in 2001 series "pitch is same for both teams"..dat kind of attitude is not there in u, better u learn how to play on tough surfaces rather than hiding ur inabilities to play on fast pitches.. poor lad..

  • POSTED BY Pakmann on | January 22, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    Thats pathetically unsporting. And as if the curators there dont already welcome visiting teams on dust bowls they call wickets.

    Isn't the natural surface for the sport grassy? to me it is. But to shave off every twig of grass on the wicket is a farce. One of the reasons they dont win abroad is that they are not used to playing on surfaces other than flat batting pitches with nothing for the pacemen. When there is neither anything in the wickets nor in the atmosphere to support fast bowling, how do they expect to produce batsmen who can handle pace AND more importantly who do they expect to produce genuine bowlers who can exploit those conditions.

    This unsporting attitude wont help them go far in cricket.

    Just look at the England cricket team...After losing in just 3 days at Dubai, they have not complained a single time about the surface. They know they ought to have won on ANY surface if they want to be number one. That is the attitude of a champion side.

  • POSTED BY usama on | January 22, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    one of the most pathetic statements that can come from a cricketer. the 4th test hasn't even started and gambhir is focused on the home series:S . focus on the 4th test and stop saying things like when teams come to india, we'll see. a good test team should be able to play anywhere like Waugh's or Ponting's Australia. and hasn't india always prepared flat turning wickets ? when was a green top prepared on India anyways? Most Indian batsmen are flat track bullies especially Gambhir and Sehwag. A teams temperament is shown on away tours only and that how a #1 team is made. I am not saying Pakistan is the top team right now but they are one of the toughest based on how they havent palyed @ home in nearly 2 years and have won tests in newzeland, and england (against aus). Dravid, even though hasn't performed is prob the best Indian batsman right now. He has not complained and im sure he'll come up big in the last test. indian players need to focus on this series and stop acting like kids

  • POSTED BY bighit14 on | January 22, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    Worst idea. Bad cricket. By preparing spin friendly wickets, Indians will never get exposure to pace and swing and will never win overseas from here on (not even in zimbabwe and west indies)

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Exhibit A as to why India is no longer the #1 Test team.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Agree 100%, everyone is judging India when they play away, other teams should be judged aswell when they're playing away, Brilliant Gauti!

  • POSTED BY PACERONE on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Maybe India should try to produce good fast bowlers to compliment their spinners.You can have good spinners on turning wickets and run into batsmen like Lara that can play spin beautifully.Fast bowling is the name of the game it brings excitement to the game.

  • POSTED BY danishahsen on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Sad ... instead of looking at their flaws they are finding reasons and what does it say about the mindset of these players. Losing is not such a bad thing if one puts up a fight but 7 humiliating defeats, there is something wrong other than the conditions. I might add Pakistan toured and played the same England team in the winters and managed to win against Australia and England a test match and if not for the controversy may have done better in the final test in Lords ... Indian players should grow up and accept that they did not play well. DO you expect Eng and Australia to lose 7 straight tests in India and some of them in 3 days !!! BCCI should take action against such comments by their players .. India has once again proven that they are sore losers ... Give some credit to the opposition other than conditions !!

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    The MCG was a sporting track where good batsmen made merry and good bowlers enjoyed as well. The SCG was the FLATTEST track of the Aussie summer so far which is obviously why India managed 400 in the 2nd dig. The Perth track wasn't fast at all like the hype from the media - the cracks were the only challenge which was for both teams. Now Adelaide will take over as the flattest track of the summer so far with spinners getting maximum advantage. And Aus have important players injured as well - India can never ever receive such friendly treatment in an overseas tour. But look at Gambhir - it's alright to have rank turners - but to order them just for revenge is kiddish - loser mentality.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    I thought, India was already doing that.

  • POSTED BY criclover112 on | January 22, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    What a sore loser. What is the point of bringing this topic up in the middle of a tour in Australia. Shouldn't he be focusing on the next test match. By the way great Australian batsmen like Hayden and Ricky Ponting have proven themselves on rank turners as well as seaming tracks. Only recently Australia won a test match on a rank turner in Srilanka. Also, Steve waughs Australians won a test series in India and pakistan. Same can not be said of team India.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    Exactly !!! Any team visiting India should feel the heat .. Countries should play to their strengths , India's strength is Spin.. Lookin at the way England played against pakistan and in the ODI series in India.. There is no way they will be deserving No.1 ,, Even Australia will be found wanting.. I guess South Africa are the only team who have the capability to adjust to all conditions

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    kudos to gambhir for having the guts to speak his heart out ....i also feel the same and all these teams who play on seaming wickets should call themselves great only if they play well in sub continent ...and to test them if we have to prepare rank turners so be it ...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    Yeah they should prepare tracks according to the Indian Team but during off season they should prepare grassy tracks in India as well so that when India Team goes abroad they can perform there too.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    it's a lame excuse i think, every country prepares pitches that suit them. it has happened all the time

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  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    it's a lame excuse i think, every country prepares pitches that suit them. it has happened all the time

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    Yeah they should prepare tracks according to the Indian Team but during off season they should prepare grassy tracks in India as well so that when India Team goes abroad they can perform there too.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    kudos to gambhir for having the guts to speak his heart out ....i also feel the same and all these teams who play on seaming wickets should call themselves great only if they play well in sub continent ...and to test them if we have to prepare rank turners so be it ...

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    Exactly !!! Any team visiting India should feel the heat .. Countries should play to their strengths , India's strength is Spin.. Lookin at the way England played against pakistan and in the ODI series in India.. There is no way they will be deserving No.1 ,, Even Australia will be found wanting.. I guess South Africa are the only team who have the capability to adjust to all conditions

  • POSTED BY criclover112 on | January 22, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    What a sore loser. What is the point of bringing this topic up in the middle of a tour in Australia. Shouldn't he be focusing on the next test match. By the way great Australian batsmen like Hayden and Ricky Ponting have proven themselves on rank turners as well as seaming tracks. Only recently Australia won a test match on a rank turner in Srilanka. Also, Steve waughs Australians won a test series in India and pakistan. Same can not be said of team India.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    I thought, India was already doing that.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    The MCG was a sporting track where good batsmen made merry and good bowlers enjoyed as well. The SCG was the FLATTEST track of the Aussie summer so far which is obviously why India managed 400 in the 2nd dig. The Perth track wasn't fast at all like the hype from the media - the cracks were the only challenge which was for both teams. Now Adelaide will take over as the flattest track of the summer so far with spinners getting maximum advantage. And Aus have important players injured as well - India can never ever receive such friendly treatment in an overseas tour. But look at Gambhir - it's alright to have rank turners - but to order them just for revenge is kiddish - loser mentality.

  • POSTED BY danishahsen on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Sad ... instead of looking at their flaws they are finding reasons and what does it say about the mindset of these players. Losing is not such a bad thing if one puts up a fight but 7 humiliating defeats, there is something wrong other than the conditions. I might add Pakistan toured and played the same England team in the winters and managed to win against Australia and England a test match and if not for the controversy may have done better in the final test in Lords ... Indian players should grow up and accept that they did not play well. DO you expect Eng and Australia to lose 7 straight tests in India and some of them in 3 days !!! BCCI should take action against such comments by their players .. India has once again proven that they are sore losers ... Give some credit to the opposition other than conditions !!

  • POSTED BY PACERONE on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Maybe India should try to produce good fast bowlers to compliment their spinners.You can have good spinners on turning wickets and run into batsmen like Lara that can play spin beautifully.Fast bowling is the name of the game it brings excitement to the game.

  • POSTED BY on | January 22, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Agree 100%, everyone is judging India when they play away, other teams should be judged aswell when they're playing away, Brilliant Gauti!