New Zealand in Australia 2011-12 December 6, 2011

Pattinson debut exposes coaching disparity

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James Pattinson's astonishing debut has exposed the often vast disparity between state and national coaching philosophies in Australia, one of the central problems identified by the Argus review.

As a young pace bowler with Victoria, Pattinson was taught to bowl short of a length, in line with the Bushrangers' long successful methods for winning domestic matches, particularly on the MCG's drop-in pitches.

However the national team has recognised his natural swing and speed are better suited to fuller bowling and, under the guidance of the bowling coach Craig McDermott, Pattinson has been groomed to make the adjustment.

"Billy's taken over this year as the bowling coach and he's just said to me the length that I bowl for Victoria, that back of a length, doesn't work in Test cricket, it is hard to get wickets with that," Pattinson told the television panel show Inside Cricket.

"You get more chance of getting wickets if you pitch the ball up there and get a chance to get some caught behind the wicket [dismissals]. He's been pushing me to get a lot fuller with my lengths and all that work I've done over in Sri Lanka and South Africa has really proved pretty good for me."

Pattinson's progression from state cricket to the international game was smoothed by his presence as a reserve paceman on numerous Australian overseas tours, where he worked assiduously with McDermott to change his methods, with startling results against New Zealand in Brisbane. As he settles further into the role of head coach, Mickey Arthur is charged with ensuring greater consistency in coaching standards and philosophies between the states and the national team.

"Of course, absolutely," Arthur said when asked about the need for greater alignment between state and national coaching. "There are a couple of things we'll be looking at implementing, I think we need to be a little bit harder and a little more ruthless on the basics, but for James that was phenomenal and it was a spell that was right up there among the best I've seen.

"I thought he was quick, he was aggressive and he hit the right areas. We had a chat before the start of play that morning on what we believed were the right areas and he executed that fantastically well. The key for us really is to increase our depth, if we can get our depth in all departments nice and strong, and we've spoken about giving quality opportunities, we're going to place ourselves in a really good position down the line."

Another area highlighted by the Argus review was that fielding and fitness in state programs was not always up to a high enough standard. One passage of the report stated: "Some COE and National Coaching staff (as well as some Australian players) feel that several State programs are inadequate for preparing players for international cricket, for example, in relation to players' physical conditioning and fielding."

The fielding coach Steve Rixon has returned to the team for the Hobart Test, and will speak with Arthur about how to prolong his role beyond the current short-term arrangement. Arthur said the team's fielding in Brisbane was one area requiring considerable improvement.

"We certainly dropped too many catches, there's no two ways about that," Arthur said. "I do put it down to nerves, it was the first Test match of the home summer, a lot of guys on debut, and there was a lot of excitement around the group, and I'll put it down to that. But we've got to sharpen it up a huge amount because catches are crucial. We'll work really hard on it and aim to put in a really quality fielding performance in Hobart."

One of the lest natural fielders in the Australian XI, Usman Khawaja, fielded at short leg for large swathes of the match, and Arthur said he was intent on becoming a specialist in the position.

"We'll be doing a lot of work with Usman in that position definitely," Arthur said. "Technically he's a little bit on his heels, he probably needs to get a bit more on the balls of his feet a little more, but he can catch and we'll keep upping his work-rate in that position and challenging him there. That's where he is going to field, so we need to be getting the best out of him. He's very receptive to that as well."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • bumsonseats on December 7, 2011, 13:05 GMT

    well lets be fair the aussies had to do something after the last ashes. putting the same old bowlers after that, something had to change. if england did anything it made you think of new blood was the way to go. perhaps now its keeping the new blood on the pitch. im not joking now. dpk

  • zenboomerang on December 7, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    @RandyOZ... Yes agree... Also Adelaide Oval will be introducing AFL permanently so they see the need to make 'instant' pitches that can be dropped in after the afl season is over & be removed back again...

  • zenboomerang on December 7, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    @davidpk... Get your facts rights first... Pattinson travels on an Australian passport (read cricinfo profile)... He is probably able to gain dual citizenship if for some unseen reason he needed it... You have to apply for that - it isn't given automatically... He doesn't have a UK passport... Until then, keep your comments to reality if you can...

  • RandyOZ on December 7, 2011, 1:28 GMT

    @youngkeepersdad, it won't be exactly the same at Adelaide Oval. The MCG gets their pitches from outside melbourne, they get trucked in. AO is getting is pitches from the nearby "Adelaide Oval 2" so that means the soil composition and type of grass should be more or less the same.

  • Peterincanada on December 7, 2011, 1:25 GMT

    I agree that this is a stupid argument. The length you bowl depends on many things, for example the height of the bowler, the condition of the pitch, the country you are bowling in. the age of the ball, the strengths and the weaknesses of the batsman etc etc etc. The best bowlers can vary their length according to whatever they face. Pattinson being a swing bowler should in the main bowl a full length but it certainly isn't carved in stone.

  • Meety on December 7, 2011, 0:20 GMT

    @ dsig3 - I think it depends on circumstance & conditions. Pattinson bowls faster than ooh ah, & swings it more than him. @JimDavis - ouch! @Antriksh Saal - OMG! That is a classic "YOU THINK IT IS EASY TO RUN THROUGH INDIAN BATTING? Even England did not do that" - umm England did! @ landl47 - I agree - fully fit bowling units in 2013 Ashes will be not much fun for batsmen! @ the_blue_android - I think the Indian line up will be vulnerable early, but they aren't greats for nothing. If given half a chance, they will most likely cash in. It will be interesting viewing! India's best chance to win a series in Oz, but it COULD go horribly wrong! @Davidpk - I don't think we Ozzys got the joke, I hate it when you have to explain yourself - LOL!!!! == == == I think the time Pattinson spent as 12th man was very good for him. I think he is a bloke that needs to pitch it up, however I do believe more importantly bowlers will need to adapt to different conditions & hence different lengths.

  • ygkd on December 7, 2011, 0:03 GMT

    continued: The only issue with Vic pace-bowling is the drop-in pitch at the MCG and now they want one in Adelaide. Why?

  • ygkd on December 6, 2011, 23:58 GMT

    The point I thought I made clear earlier is that if the Vics have it wrong with bowling too short how come a NSW debutant can get away with bowling even shorter to someone who is known to not play full-pitch deliveries? Isn't a NSW bowler a product of an accountable state system too? Plus a length to suit a home pitch? And yes, you should pitch it up in test cricket and at Brisbane - perhaps more so than elsewhere at state level. But did Pattinson really need to be told that? If he did he's not half as clever as I thought he was and I doubt that's the case. I really don't think Victoria has a problem producing pacemen. Their problem is batting. How many Vic born batsmen have there been playing in my lifetime (nearly 50 years) who've made a 1000 test runs? Lawry, Stackpole, Redpath, Yallop, Jones and I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head. That's where Vic cricket needs assistance. Yes, Vic pacemen do pitch too short at times but so do lots from elsewhere, without comment.

  • Simoc on December 6, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    I think Pattinson ran through some weak batting. He bowled some great deliveries as well. If he can do that to India, England ,South Africa then we have a good bowler. NZ were woeful in that test apart from Vettori and Brownlee.

  • Mad_Hamish on December 6, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    youngkeepersdad the point is that Pattinson having spent time around the team over the last year has had time to work on it. Starc hasn't so how he performed really has very little to do with the Australian team's coaches. Now whether it's always a good thing to pitch the ball up or whether sometimes it's better to be a little shorter is a separate question.

    and Cummin, Pattinson and all the young players need to produce consistantly for a while before anybody can be sure what they can do. Mitch Johnson was looking pretty good after the 2 series against RSA in 2009 after all...his opening spell in RSA when he broke Smith's hand for the second time was hugely impressive.

  • bumsonseats on December 7, 2011, 13:05 GMT

    well lets be fair the aussies had to do something after the last ashes. putting the same old bowlers after that, something had to change. if england did anything it made you think of new blood was the way to go. perhaps now its keeping the new blood on the pitch. im not joking now. dpk

  • zenboomerang on December 7, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    @RandyOZ... Yes agree... Also Adelaide Oval will be introducing AFL permanently so they see the need to make 'instant' pitches that can be dropped in after the afl season is over & be removed back again...

  • zenboomerang on December 7, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    @davidpk... Get your facts rights first... Pattinson travels on an Australian passport (read cricinfo profile)... He is probably able to gain dual citizenship if for some unseen reason he needed it... You have to apply for that - it isn't given automatically... He doesn't have a UK passport... Until then, keep your comments to reality if you can...

  • RandyOZ on December 7, 2011, 1:28 GMT

    @youngkeepersdad, it won't be exactly the same at Adelaide Oval. The MCG gets their pitches from outside melbourne, they get trucked in. AO is getting is pitches from the nearby "Adelaide Oval 2" so that means the soil composition and type of grass should be more or less the same.

  • Peterincanada on December 7, 2011, 1:25 GMT

    I agree that this is a stupid argument. The length you bowl depends on many things, for example the height of the bowler, the condition of the pitch, the country you are bowling in. the age of the ball, the strengths and the weaknesses of the batsman etc etc etc. The best bowlers can vary their length according to whatever they face. Pattinson being a swing bowler should in the main bowl a full length but it certainly isn't carved in stone.

  • Meety on December 7, 2011, 0:20 GMT

    @ dsig3 - I think it depends on circumstance & conditions. Pattinson bowls faster than ooh ah, & swings it more than him. @JimDavis - ouch! @Antriksh Saal - OMG! That is a classic "YOU THINK IT IS EASY TO RUN THROUGH INDIAN BATTING? Even England did not do that" - umm England did! @ landl47 - I agree - fully fit bowling units in 2013 Ashes will be not much fun for batsmen! @ the_blue_android - I think the Indian line up will be vulnerable early, but they aren't greats for nothing. If given half a chance, they will most likely cash in. It will be interesting viewing! India's best chance to win a series in Oz, but it COULD go horribly wrong! @Davidpk - I don't think we Ozzys got the joke, I hate it when you have to explain yourself - LOL!!!! == == == I think the time Pattinson spent as 12th man was very good for him. I think he is a bloke that needs to pitch it up, however I do believe more importantly bowlers will need to adapt to different conditions & hence different lengths.

  • ygkd on December 7, 2011, 0:03 GMT

    continued: The only issue with Vic pace-bowling is the drop-in pitch at the MCG and now they want one in Adelaide. Why?

  • ygkd on December 6, 2011, 23:58 GMT

    The point I thought I made clear earlier is that if the Vics have it wrong with bowling too short how come a NSW debutant can get away with bowling even shorter to someone who is known to not play full-pitch deliveries? Isn't a NSW bowler a product of an accountable state system too? Plus a length to suit a home pitch? And yes, you should pitch it up in test cricket and at Brisbane - perhaps more so than elsewhere at state level. But did Pattinson really need to be told that? If he did he's not half as clever as I thought he was and I doubt that's the case. I really don't think Victoria has a problem producing pacemen. Their problem is batting. How many Vic born batsmen have there been playing in my lifetime (nearly 50 years) who've made a 1000 test runs? Lawry, Stackpole, Redpath, Yallop, Jones and I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head. That's where Vic cricket needs assistance. Yes, Vic pacemen do pitch too short at times but so do lots from elsewhere, without comment.

  • Simoc on December 6, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    I think Pattinson ran through some weak batting. He bowled some great deliveries as well. If he can do that to India, England ,South Africa then we have a good bowler. NZ were woeful in that test apart from Vettori and Brownlee.

  • Mad_Hamish on December 6, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    youngkeepersdad the point is that Pattinson having spent time around the team over the last year has had time to work on it. Starc hasn't so how he performed really has very little to do with the Australian team's coaches. Now whether it's always a good thing to pitch the ball up or whether sometimes it's better to be a little shorter is a separate question.

    and Cummin, Pattinson and all the young players need to produce consistantly for a while before anybody can be sure what they can do. Mitch Johnson was looking pretty good after the 2 series against RSA in 2009 after all...his opening spell in RSA when he broke Smith's hand for the second time was hugely impressive.

  • on December 6, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    The technique worked well for Shane Harwood, particularly at the MCG. Ever since then, the Vics have been rehashing the old party trick with diminishing results. Dumb policy. Every bowler is different and needs to play the line and length that suits their technique and the conditions, or targets any weaknesses in the batter's technique. Remember Siddle's hat-trick in South Africa and how he pitched a much fuller length and got the ball to swing? Makes me smile just thinking about it. How disappointing to see him bowling entire overs of short-of-a-length rubbish against the Kiwis last week. He's better than that. Like Pattinson, Siddle needs to reject the Vic's dogma and listen to Craig McDermott's common sense. Our bowlers will be okay, it's the opening batters I worry about.

  • RandyOZ on December 6, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    It's unbelievable how good we are in such a small space of time. Looks like England will be #1 for a short period than India!

  • DrOMFS on December 6, 2011, 21:30 GMT

    @davidpk: Maybe you should look at what you wrote. "how did we miss him. perhaps we did not rate him". Your implying he was in the English system and could not make it as he wasnt good enough to get in the English. He is Australia born and bred. Unlike half of the English team e.g. Strauss, Pietersen, Trott, Prior, Kieswetter, Dernbach and Morgan.

  • Chris_P on December 6, 2011, 21:14 GMT

    davidpk. On a further note. Pattinson may be eligible for an British passport, but he hasn't got one. Again, "how did we miss him?" Probably half the cricketers in Austraklia would qualify for a British passport, but most haven't got one.

  • Chris_P on December 6, 2011, 21:09 GMT

    @davidpk. How did you miss him? You're kidding, right? He was born in Melbourne and grew up and played all his cricket in Australia. Your credibilty in writing posts takes a severe hit with this sort of inept post. Do yourself a favour and count how many Aussies/Kiwis you guys have played in the English test team the English test team the lpast 20 years, without even mentioning the Saffers. Sheesh! His brother , Darren, wasn't cutting it with Victoria. although a decent enough bowler, and went to country cricket where he eventually played one test. How did you miss him? Still shaoking my head.

  • ygkd on December 6, 2011, 20:30 GMT

    Craig McDermott was a fine bowler and his Queenslander son, Alister, is far better than just another son-trading-on-the-family-name, so the bloke must be able to coach. But is the essence of this theory correct, that Pattinson needs to bowl fuller lengths because the Vics have it all wrong? I'd have thought NSW's Starc was the one bowling too short. Saw him bowl to the world's worst international bat-holder (won't call Chris Martin a batsman!) and the 1st ball was short and wide. Said Starc is bowling to a bloke who must have more bowleds or lbws per test balls faced than anyone else and he's on that line & length. Then he did it again and again. Then the tv commentators said something and Clarke appeared to have a chat to his wayward quick. Yet by the 6th & last ball he was still not full and straight either. So, in that context, this Pattinson-needs-redirecting-stuff sounds a bit like state-versus-state territorial squabbling or a coach marking his authority a little too prominently.

  • bumsonseats on December 6, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    i got my facts right i said he was a good bowler his parent were english of good stock and he has a british passport, i said nothing about were he was born. read the piece. dpk

  • hhillbumper on December 6, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    One good performance and he is a world beater.Aus will soon be number 1 again.Greatest team ever.Best bowlers in the world.and then we woke up.England would mangle you on that pitch

  • Mike_Bursle on December 6, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Alot of comments seem to be getting carried away with this performance. I hope they are right, but we Aussie supporters seem to be very good at taking one performance against an OK (at best) line up and blowing it out of proportion. Let's wait til we see how our guys perform against India, if we can consistently ask questions against that quality batting line up then we can start to get carried away. But I think there will a few more long days in the field before this attack really starts to blossom. Having said that I think it will blossom over the next few years to get Australia challenging for number one again in about 2 to 3 years.

  • the_blue_android on December 6, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    Cummins and Pattison, both exceptional bowlers without a doubt and will definitely have our famed (and aged and hence too slow!)batting line-up in a bit of bother. But I still think everyone's going way overboard. Let these blokes play a few test matches around the world in all conditions. Let them play a few games in dust bowls of India and SL and see how they respond. At the moment there is only one exceptional bowler in this world and that is Dale Steyn and every new talent is going to be compared with Steyn. Matching Steyn or even doing half of what he can do is not going to be easy.

  • DrOMFS on December 6, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    @davidpk: Maybe check your facts before you make a comment. James Pattinson was born in Australia and has lived all his life in Australia. Yes his older brother Darren is British born and ironically he was playing grade cricket in Australia before he was picked up to play for England in his one test so far. Perhaps it was Darren who wasnt even good enough to play to Australia but went to represent England.

  • bumsonseats on December 6, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    its not a natural australian length hes bowling, were they think banging it in is the way to go on the harder pitches. hes bowling a jimmy anderson length and pitching it up. 240 wickets with about 400 on retirement going on present form and 92 wickets in last 2 1/2 years of test cricket with 36 of them aussies. mind the aussies were poor then. not as now. back to their best in 5th position. dpk

  • landl47 on December 6, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    It has to be what works for each bowler. McGrath was very tall, the most accurate seam bowler I've ever seen, could get the ball to lift from just short of a length and didn't swing it much. Pattinson isn't as tall or as accurate, but does swing the ball. He needs to bowl a fuller length, as do most bowlers at test level. McGrath (and Tremlett for England) are the exceptions. BTW, if they are all healthy, an Ashes series in 2013 with squads featuring Cummins, Pattinson, Cutting, Starc and Coulter-Nile for Aus against Anderson, Broad, Finn, Tremlett and Bresnan for England would be great to watch- unless you're a batsman.

  • on December 6, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    @Cummins_Hazlewood get out of your dream world, YOU THINK IT IS EASY TO RUN THROUGH INDIAN BATTING? Even England did not do that (due to Dravid).NZ batted badly as well and Gabba is known to aid pacers much more than MCG,SCG and the Adelaide Oval, Only Perth swings more. India relies on swing bowlers so it will not be one way traffic. (I know what happened in England, but Aus is No England + the conditions are also different).

  • RandyOZ on December 6, 2011, 13:51 GMT

    You can hardly blame Victoria for doing whatever it takes to win. McDermott is doing a sensational job with our plethora of young bowling stars though. I agree with dsig3, Pattinson is so good he can pitch it up when the ball is swinging and then bang it in short of a length when the ball is older. The only worry at the moment is the coach Arthur.

  • bumsonseats on December 6, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    pattinson will be a good bowler bred from good english stock. and with his british passport how did we miss him. perhaps we did not rate him. dpk

  • couchpundit on December 6, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    This Article has failed to understand the basic Issue, Its the talent of the coach to Identify what is correct length for their bowlers.

    If not for McDermott pattison,cummins would be struggling like mitchell johson who is confused about what he should be bowling in what conditions.

    I only hope thee are not one off performances by these lads.

    @dsig3 - Absolutely Pattison is betterof bowling fuller length...its not the divide betwen national and state coaching methods.. Its what is best for each bowler.

  • JimDavis on December 6, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    What utter rubbish - One style is not better than the other. It's all about the time, place and application. After 20 odd overs the ball doesn't do much in Australia. It's why Vettori and Brownlie were able to bat for so long in the first innings, we were pitching it up long after we should have reverted to back of a length. I hope McDermott the coach is not a one trick pony, otherwise he can bugger off back to property develpment.

  • on December 6, 2011, 12:04 GMT

    The sky is the limit for this new young pack of players coming through. Hopefully Ponting gets out of the way soon and we can see them strive towards their full potential. Exciting times await for Australian cricket.

  • satish619chandar on December 6, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    Australia are having good pool of bowlers.. The challenge is, they need to have a fixed bowling lineup and need to manage the reserves.. There is a heavy inconsistency i nthe selection.. Copeland is not playing now after a good debut and also, the fitness standards is getting lower with Harris and Bollinger regularly injured and Cummins now stiff after one test match.. Aussies are just struggling to get a settled bowling attack though the replacements are doing fantastic job at the moment..

  • pigeotto99 on December 6, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    I feel that the emergence of bowlers like pattinson, cummings and the new levels that steven finn is now hitting makes for an exciting next few years in test cricket. Since i have started watching cricket there have been great pace men on the downturn, coming to the end of there careers, namely people like bond, shaob, lee etc. and commentators have continually been saying there are non to replace them. Yet it now seems we have a good three or more young bowlers consistently hitting 90 + mph which certainly will draw crowds to test cricket. Whats a better sight then a fast bowler tearing in?

  • Wasim_Wasamadroota on December 6, 2011, 11:44 GMT

    Gee, thank God for the Argus review - next we will be sending someone to the moon. Shhhh, geniuses at work.

  • jonesy2 on December 6, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    australian cricket is boss again

  • maddinson on December 6, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    Pattinson is a swing bowler, I would like to see Hazlewood being on the same path as Pattionson i.e with the team as a reserve for about 6-12 months before being introduced at test level. I think McDermott is doing fantastic job with these young bowlers, can't wait to see Patto and Cummins running through the fame Indian batting line up.

  • CricketMaan on December 6, 2011, 9:44 GMT

    Any why does Arthur take credit for what McDermott did on that morning, oh coz he is the head coach?

  • dsig3 on December 6, 2011, 9:30 GMT

    I was always of an opinion that Glenn McGrath should have bowled full deliveries, maybe his career wouldn't have been so disappointing....not. Mate, there is nothing wrong with bowling short of a length. Some of the best bowlers of all time did it almost exclusively. The reality is some bowlers are better suited to pitching it up and swinging it, while others hit the deck. Pattinson is probably good enough to do either, its whatever works best for him.

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  • dsig3 on December 6, 2011, 9:30 GMT

    I was always of an opinion that Glenn McGrath should have bowled full deliveries, maybe his career wouldn't have been so disappointing....not. Mate, there is nothing wrong with bowling short of a length. Some of the best bowlers of all time did it almost exclusively. The reality is some bowlers are better suited to pitching it up and swinging it, while others hit the deck. Pattinson is probably good enough to do either, its whatever works best for him.

  • CricketMaan on December 6, 2011, 9:44 GMT

    Any why does Arthur take credit for what McDermott did on that morning, oh coz he is the head coach?

  • maddinson on December 6, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    Pattinson is a swing bowler, I would like to see Hazlewood being on the same path as Pattionson i.e with the team as a reserve for about 6-12 months before being introduced at test level. I think McDermott is doing fantastic job with these young bowlers, can't wait to see Patto and Cummins running through the fame Indian batting line up.

  • jonesy2 on December 6, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    australian cricket is boss again

  • Wasim_Wasamadroota on December 6, 2011, 11:44 GMT

    Gee, thank God for the Argus review - next we will be sending someone to the moon. Shhhh, geniuses at work.

  • pigeotto99 on December 6, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    I feel that the emergence of bowlers like pattinson, cummings and the new levels that steven finn is now hitting makes for an exciting next few years in test cricket. Since i have started watching cricket there have been great pace men on the downturn, coming to the end of there careers, namely people like bond, shaob, lee etc. and commentators have continually been saying there are non to replace them. Yet it now seems we have a good three or more young bowlers consistently hitting 90 + mph which certainly will draw crowds to test cricket. Whats a better sight then a fast bowler tearing in?

  • satish619chandar on December 6, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    Australia are having good pool of bowlers.. The challenge is, they need to have a fixed bowling lineup and need to manage the reserves.. There is a heavy inconsistency i nthe selection.. Copeland is not playing now after a good debut and also, the fitness standards is getting lower with Harris and Bollinger regularly injured and Cummins now stiff after one test match.. Aussies are just struggling to get a settled bowling attack though the replacements are doing fantastic job at the moment..

  • on December 6, 2011, 12:04 GMT

    The sky is the limit for this new young pack of players coming through. Hopefully Ponting gets out of the way soon and we can see them strive towards their full potential. Exciting times await for Australian cricket.

  • JimDavis on December 6, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    What utter rubbish - One style is not better than the other. It's all about the time, place and application. After 20 odd overs the ball doesn't do much in Australia. It's why Vettori and Brownlie were able to bat for so long in the first innings, we were pitching it up long after we should have reverted to back of a length. I hope McDermott the coach is not a one trick pony, otherwise he can bugger off back to property develpment.

  • couchpundit on December 6, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    This Article has failed to understand the basic Issue, Its the talent of the coach to Identify what is correct length for their bowlers.

    If not for McDermott pattison,cummins would be struggling like mitchell johson who is confused about what he should be bowling in what conditions.

    I only hope thee are not one off performances by these lads.

    @dsig3 - Absolutely Pattison is betterof bowling fuller length...its not the divide betwen national and state coaching methods.. Its what is best for each bowler.