Australia news October 16, 2012

Hughes, Khawaja should learn from Ponting - Inverarity

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Phil Hughes and Usman Khawaja must seek to emulate the energy and drive of the seemingly ageless Ricky Ponting before they can be considered ready for a return to Australia's Test team, national selector John Inverarity has said.

Watching Ponting race around the field for Tasmania at Adelaide Oval last week, Inverarity's fellow selector Rod Marsh remarked on the 37-year-old's buzzing countenance, undimmed by a career that has lasted 20 years. It is an example Inverarity said Hughes and Khawaja had to follow on their path back to international cricket. Neither are considered strong fielders.

"Rod Marsh and I were watching in Adelaide and Rod said 'just look at him', of course he was pointing to Ricky Ponting," Inverarity said. "He was running around and throwing left hand and right hand. Khawaja and Hughes need to learn that."

Since being dropped from the national team following last year's Hobart Test defeat to New Zealand, Hughes and Khawaja have spent the northern summer in England undertaking county stints of varying productivity. They have also each moved states in search of better returns as batsmen, Hughes to South Australia, Khawaja to Queensland.

However Inverarity indicated that it was not merely runs the selection panel were seeking from the two left-hand batsmen. Apart from fielding, the issue of running between the wickets is another. Inverarity contrasted Khawaja's approach to that of Ponting and Michael Hussey, who seek runs for their batting partners as aggressively as they crash loose balls to the boundary.

"What we'll have to see from Usman is dynamism in the field and his running between the wickets, demonstrating that energy and vitality," Inverarity said. "You take Michael Hussey and Ricky Ponting, when they're at the non-striker's end they present themselves every ball to the batsman. They're there and they're down the wicket and their level of alertness [is high].

"I think Usman needs to learn that. If you're batting, you can be enhanced by the presence of the player at the other end, it's a team. A lot of players would all say batting with Hussey and Ponting, they would enhance their batting, they're just terrific. Usman's got to give in that sense too. He's a beautiful timer of the ball, but there's body language and presence as well."

Hughes has offered signs of developing his game so far this season, impressing Inverarity by unfurling a range of strokes through the leg side during a brief domestic limited-overs innings against the Tigers. Inverarity said the panel wanted to take a patient approach with Hughes, waiting until he had shown he was entirely ready and settled rather than throwing him into the Test side without runs behind him, as happened during the 2010-11 Ashes summer.

"My personal view was that we wouldn't rush him back until he was in a good groove and playing well," Inverarity said. "He played very well in Brisbane, and when South Australia played Tasmania in the one-dayer there was a period of about 20 minutes where he hit two spanking straight drives slightly to the offside, then he pulled two balls.

"He wasn't doing that before, but they were two terrific shots, and one off his toes for three or four. They were different areas to where he was scoring before. There are signs there that he's moving to the next level, and we'd like to see that consolidated. We're counting on him coming through. He has a lot of centuries for a 23-year-old.

"If he's almost ready and he's still getting his game sorted, to bring him back to me is the wrong decision. His platform needs to be solid and he knows where he's at. That's in his long-term interests and Australia's."

Pat Howard, Cricket Australia's team performance manager, said one of many studies conducted by his department was an analysis of how players responded to being dropped from the national team early in their careers. "We've gone and done a study of the last 50 or so years, and the reality is pretty much everybody's got dropped. And it's part of their journey," he said. "There's been a couple of blokes who've been in, seen what it's like, stretched a little bit, come back. Nobody's written off."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Flemo_Gilly on October 19, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    @Meety well written bud. Khawaja while being a very good batsman is young and not the finished article and has time to sort things out.

  • Mary_786 on October 19, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    @Meety very well said mate about Khawaja, he will be a great player for Australia and your comments balance his strengths and weakness's very well. Good to see some non bias knowledgeable comments on here.

  • Essex_Man on October 19, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    @Meety - thanks for the reference to that article - an excellent read.

  • Meety on October 19, 2012, 0:30 GMT

    BTW - the article I am talking about can be found under Ussie's profile & it is titled "What ails Australia's best and brightest?" A very interesting read.

  • Meety on October 19, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    @Macca_mat/ross_fleming/Rahul_Ashok - in regards to Hyclass, my only gripe is the repeating of the "trigger movements" often. There is a great article by Chris Rogers in April that talked about Hughes & Khawaja. The opinions of the persons involved in my opinion are valid, which run a similar line to what Hyclass was saying. Does Khawaja look good & composed to me - yes! Am I sure that he does NOT have the problems that Hyclass & other experts say he may have - hell no! I think Khawaja has the makings of a very good Test batsmen - a bloke who should knock up 6,000 test runs at an average above 45, but so should of Michael Bevan, Callum Ferguson should be smashing Test bowlers around the park around the world. Khawaja is not a finished article, he is young enough to get things sorted, (unfortunately Ferguson nope), he definately has the ability. I would be surprised if he doesn't have a good summer & from that be in line for another Baggy Green.

  • Sunil_Batra on October 18, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    @ NickKnightIsMyBunny well said buddy. @Ross_fleming spot on bud, Hyclass needs to stop becoming a broken record with his consistent unfair critism of the so called Trigger comment on Khawaja.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 18, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    Meety i comment regularly on these forums and I think the frustration around a few of the commenters on Hyclass is that he keeps talking about this Trigger issues which Khawaja does not have. Take time to watch the guy and you will see he is a classy player. Well said on him being not afforded the same chances Marsh and Hughes had and as you can imagine his average dropped last year as he was unfarily dropped which affected him negatively. He looks positive this year and with improved fielding and running hopefully he is back sooner rather then later. Well said Meety on what you said, you explained things well.

  • Mary_786 on October 18, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    @Meety unlike Hyclass you actually do reason well in your arguments. Glad that you acknowledged the run out Khawaja got in Gabba against NZ as he was looking good for a 100 following from his 80 against South Africa the game before. I do hear your comments on him backing more while running and around working on the fielding component and hope that he continues to improve these to make him a better player. Having watched a couple of his matches in Derbyshire he took a screamer in Gully against Yorkshire which showed that he has what it takes, just needs to do it in shield now. My frustration around Hyclass is that he keeps repeating the trigger comment when there is no basis behind it. Khawaja as you would acknowledge has a wonderful batting technique.

  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    @ hyclass on (October 17 2012, 09:34 AM GMT) - I agree re: Cosgrove. Judging by a file photo on the Taz v SA List A game & other things I've seen him do, he is a pretty good slipper (Tubby Taylorish even?) & that could be very handy in the Test team. Despite his size, he appears to be the invisible man with the selectors at the moment, proabbly self inflicted which is a big shame. Maybe an Inverarity/Rod Marsh kick up the preverbial could re-ignite him????? @ KiwiRocker- on (October 17 2012, 09:51 AM GMT) - you've crawled back from under the rock you've been hiding. Again - no need to bag a great batsmen like Sachin here. However, knowing your attitude it will fall on deaf little ears!

  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:12 GMT

    @Edwards_A/Macca_mat/ross_fleming/Rahul_Ashok/Beertjie - whilst I think Hyclass does bang on too much about trigger movemnets, he has also mentioned a fact that Khawaja's once very impressive FC batting stats have declined significantly. I do believe he was not afforded the same luxuries as S Marsh, & I felt he "would" of got a ton against NZ @ Brisbane had he not been run out. IMO - Khawaja needs to heed the advice of the head of the NSP (really shouldn't be a mater of debate when you think about it), get out & train the house down, in fitness & fielding. I can't believe for one second that Inverarity made up the need for Khawaja to back up more when batting & he needs to work on some specialist fielding positions - mainly short leg/silly mid off - maybe even Gully as Hussey won't be around forever. So apart from the obvious mountain of runs, I don't think Inverarity could be any clearer in the steps Ussie needs to take.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 19, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    @Meety well written bud. Khawaja while being a very good batsman is young and not the finished article and has time to sort things out.

  • Mary_786 on October 19, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    @Meety very well said mate about Khawaja, he will be a great player for Australia and your comments balance his strengths and weakness's very well. Good to see some non bias knowledgeable comments on here.

  • Essex_Man on October 19, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    @Meety - thanks for the reference to that article - an excellent read.

  • Meety on October 19, 2012, 0:30 GMT

    BTW - the article I am talking about can be found under Ussie's profile & it is titled "What ails Australia's best and brightest?" A very interesting read.

  • Meety on October 19, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    @Macca_mat/ross_fleming/Rahul_Ashok - in regards to Hyclass, my only gripe is the repeating of the "trigger movements" often. There is a great article by Chris Rogers in April that talked about Hughes & Khawaja. The opinions of the persons involved in my opinion are valid, which run a similar line to what Hyclass was saying. Does Khawaja look good & composed to me - yes! Am I sure that he does NOT have the problems that Hyclass & other experts say he may have - hell no! I think Khawaja has the makings of a very good Test batsmen - a bloke who should knock up 6,000 test runs at an average above 45, but so should of Michael Bevan, Callum Ferguson should be smashing Test bowlers around the park around the world. Khawaja is not a finished article, he is young enough to get things sorted, (unfortunately Ferguson nope), he definately has the ability. I would be surprised if he doesn't have a good summer & from that be in line for another Baggy Green.

  • Sunil_Batra on October 18, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    @ NickKnightIsMyBunny well said buddy. @Ross_fleming spot on bud, Hyclass needs to stop becoming a broken record with his consistent unfair critism of the so called Trigger comment on Khawaja.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 18, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    Meety i comment regularly on these forums and I think the frustration around a few of the commenters on Hyclass is that he keeps talking about this Trigger issues which Khawaja does not have. Take time to watch the guy and you will see he is a classy player. Well said on him being not afforded the same chances Marsh and Hughes had and as you can imagine his average dropped last year as he was unfarily dropped which affected him negatively. He looks positive this year and with improved fielding and running hopefully he is back sooner rather then later. Well said Meety on what you said, you explained things well.

  • Mary_786 on October 18, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    @Meety unlike Hyclass you actually do reason well in your arguments. Glad that you acknowledged the run out Khawaja got in Gabba against NZ as he was looking good for a 100 following from his 80 against South Africa the game before. I do hear your comments on him backing more while running and around working on the fielding component and hope that he continues to improve these to make him a better player. Having watched a couple of his matches in Derbyshire he took a screamer in Gully against Yorkshire which showed that he has what it takes, just needs to do it in shield now. My frustration around Hyclass is that he keeps repeating the trigger comment when there is no basis behind it. Khawaja as you would acknowledge has a wonderful batting technique.

  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    @ hyclass on (October 17 2012, 09:34 AM GMT) - I agree re: Cosgrove. Judging by a file photo on the Taz v SA List A game & other things I've seen him do, he is a pretty good slipper (Tubby Taylorish even?) & that could be very handy in the Test team. Despite his size, he appears to be the invisible man with the selectors at the moment, proabbly self inflicted which is a big shame. Maybe an Inverarity/Rod Marsh kick up the preverbial could re-ignite him????? @ KiwiRocker- on (October 17 2012, 09:51 AM GMT) - you've crawled back from under the rock you've been hiding. Again - no need to bag a great batsmen like Sachin here. However, knowing your attitude it will fall on deaf little ears!

  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:12 GMT

    @Edwards_A/Macca_mat/ross_fleming/Rahul_Ashok/Beertjie - whilst I think Hyclass does bang on too much about trigger movemnets, he has also mentioned a fact that Khawaja's once very impressive FC batting stats have declined significantly. I do believe he was not afforded the same luxuries as S Marsh, & I felt he "would" of got a ton against NZ @ Brisbane had he not been run out. IMO - Khawaja needs to heed the advice of the head of the NSP (really shouldn't be a mater of debate when you think about it), get out & train the house down, in fitness & fielding. I can't believe for one second that Inverarity made up the need for Khawaja to back up more when batting & he needs to work on some specialist fielding positions - mainly short leg/silly mid off - maybe even Gully as Hussey won't be around forever. So apart from the obvious mountain of runs, I don't think Inverarity could be any clearer in the steps Ussie needs to take.

  • Essex_Man on October 17, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    @funkybluesman If Hughes does get selected, I will indeed be very afraid...afraid that I'll have to endure watching another no-contest of a third-rate batsman repeatedly getting squared up and caught in the gully. For the sake of a more interesting battle, I hope that there are better quality options that the Aussie selectors can call upon.

  • Paul_Rampley on October 17, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Storm16, Rahul_Ashok, Ross_fleming and Macca_mat are absoluteley correct. Bottom line is that Khawaja got a raw deal last summer when the likes of Hughes and Marsh got plenty of opportunities but Khawaja got dropped 1 game after top scoring against South Africa in a record chase. But he will get another shot and hopefully the selectors give him a full series so he can show his potential. Best young batsman in the country. Hyclass can't be convinced, no use trying as he obviously knows more then the experts.

  • Mary_786 on October 17, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    Border labelled Khawaja as one of the best young batsman in the country, Inevarity called him a beautiful timer of the ball, Taylor listed him in his top 3 young batsman but they all must be wrong as Hyclass has them all figured out. Seriuosly Hyclass stop repeating the same incorrect information on your trigger theory over and over again. Khawaja is a classy left hander who was dropped without even getting a full series under his belt but will be one of the best shield batsman this year. He is a great team player who belong in the Aussie colors

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 17, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    @Hyclass I have to agree with Rahul_Ashok. I was in Gabba on the first day when Khawaja got his 88 and he got runs in the toughest conditions you can imagine. No other batsman including Forrest, Burns included were able to score in those conditions. You keep repeating about this trigger movement which is absolutely incorrect, take some time to watch Khawaja and you will see how good his technique is. Even Inevartiy quoted in this article that he is a beautiful timer of the ball. All good judges including Border, Clarke, Taylor have said the same and I think they are better judges then you. The man scores when needed as seen from his top score against South Africa earlier this year against Derbyshire and against them in the record 300 chase. The issue he has is that he got dropped without getting the same amoung of games that the likes of Hughes and Marsh got otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

  • Sunil_Batra on October 17, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    Hyclass you need to stop repeating your incorrect observations on the trigger movements on Khawaja, he is a fantastic player and has one of the best techniques of all the younger players going around as he hasn't played alot of 20 20 cricket. North and him have nothing in common. The reason he didn't get runs last year(hence his average got in the mid 40s) was because he was unfairly dropped after top scoring against South Africa in their home territory.

  • Beertjie on October 17, 2012, 10:23 GMT

    It was a 300 chase, @ross_fleming, but otherwise I'm for you. Provided he continues getting runs, Khawaja needs to be first in line, since as many have pointed out he wasn't given sufficient opportunities last time. Good move to go to the Bulls to hone his ever-improving technique in challenging conditions rather than Hughes move to the Redbacks. Most won't agree with me, @stormy16, but for a year or two (till a genuine contender emerges) give Chris Rogers a go at the top of the order IF he gets runs this season. He'd be better on tour than the incumbents (as for him not getting along with other incumbents, that's what management is for!).

  • on October 17, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    Most people who bag Hughes have probably only ever watched him in Australia, where his test performances have been horrible. But you can't dominate Shield attacks, hit twin tons in South Africa (and an excellent contrasting ton in SL on a spinning pitch) without some ability and steel. He is a great talent and will be back, but hopefully not too soon. Like Shaun Marsh, he has proved that scoring test runs overseas doesn't really get much credit back home, where the part time experts watch a few matches a year. Admittedly, they both deserved to be dropped last summer (and Marsh is rightfully a long way off at the moment), but I can't believe that people doubt that they were worth their spots to begin with. Clearly, Khawaja is also talented, but he has been dropped for a reason. Read between the lines of what the selectors (and other tour insiders) are saying about him - he lacks worth ethic and team ethic. According to what they are saying, it seems like it is mostly the latter.

  • ozwriter on October 17, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    @rahul_ashok. well said mate, class can be ignored for only so long. @ tony, thats precisely the point....hughes averages 35 after over a year and multiple complete (3+) series to prove his worth. khawaja has played one off tests in difficult conditions (reportable pitch in Galle, was reported) and in south africa (where punter and khawaja saved the test). his 3 home tests are one off against england and two tests against NZ.

  • KiwiRocker- on October 17, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    Tendulya should learn from Ponting about how to win matches and scores runs that actually matter instead of scoring worthless 18,000 runs with a fourth inniings average of 32 runs. Ponting is a modern day legend. A real fighter who has scored runs everywhere against everyone...Ponting, Lara, Inzemam and Dravid were the finest modern day cricketers! No one cares about flat track bullies like Sehwag and Tendulya!

  • hyclass on October 17, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    The selectors observations about fielding, running and catching are less about the skills themselves than the attitudes that they wish to see representing Australia. All the great players set themselves such incredible standards, that no amount of coaching would enhance it.With regard to Hughes,he deserves respect for attempting to become an onside player after being off side dominant. He certainly wasnt limited to the off. It takes a few minutes to view Hughes v SA 115 and Hughes v SA 160 on YouTube to see the difference between the hype and the facts.His batting is a master class.Rather than making strides, I believe he's become less consistent, less assured, less complete since he adopted a leg side and text book philosophy. His average has fallen from a high of 62 to 45.When his intelligence once again matches his courage and ability, I believe he will be a prospect. Like @VivGilchrist, the ODI team suggests itself as his best road back. Id also like to see more made of Cosgrove

  • hyclass on October 17, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    When I suggested 18 months ago, following his awarding of Shield Player of the Year, that Khawaja's inconsistent trigger movements might lead to the same inconsistencies as Marcus North,I was shouted down.All his subsequent results have completely vindicated my observations. His first class average fell as low as 42 and is now just 43, from a high of 53. ESPN Cricinfo employees observed the same failings and habit of walking front on last season in Australia and also in England. His Shield season so far is 131 runs at 32.75-hardly a statement. He also fell for single figures in the List A game. His Test average of 29 from 6 Tests is less concerning than his S/R in Tests of 37. If you think he's unlucky, take a look at Brad Hodges Test record from 6 Tests.During Khawajas 88, he was dropped at fine leg for 11, or his record would be 62 runs at 15. The comments the selectors have made on his catching and attitude are extensions of previous similar remarks by them.They watched the games.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on October 17, 2012, 8:17 GMT

    Hughes, Kawaja, Wade, Henriques, Quincy, Copeland, Marsh etc etc could all learn for Ponting.

  • stormy16 on October 17, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Yet to be convinced by Hughes from what I have seen of him at international level. I reckon Kawaja got a raw deal last summer with both Hughes and Marsh getting opportunities while Kawaja was dropped after a reasonable SA series on tough pitches. The thing jumps at me on the article is the detailed involvement of the Aus selectors in the game. Reasonable to assume if the process is that well tuned, the outcomes will be favorable. The other thing that jumps out is all roads lead to Kawaja, Hughes and Marsh (may be). Cowan is far from set - I cannot beleive Aus doesnt have other options.

  • masoodali150 on October 17, 2012, 6:02 GMT

    Actually Khawaja does not have that stamina like Ricky Ponting. Beside this, Ricky is the legend player, Please do not compare in terms of batting stamina of Ricky and Khawaja. None of us, can accept that Khawaja is replacement of Ricky. However, I know This is not but the way recommend Khawaja with reference to Ricky. It might be enough thought of any person, who is on mistake.

  • Sunil_Batra on October 17, 2012, 5:04 GMT

    Ross_Fleming is correct, unlike all other debutants Khawaja barely got a chance to prove himself, he had at best 2 games in a row to prove himself where his counterparts got 2 series or more to do the same. Aus selectors need to be fair to their first sub continent debutant.

  • Mary_786 on October 17, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    @LewisEdwards agree with your comments, an in form Khawaja and Hughes is great for Australian cricket, I would have Warner open with Hughes and have Khawaja at 3.

  • Paul_Rampley on October 17, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    I think Ross_Fleming is on the mark with his comments on Khawaja but I would add that a strong Aussie team needs both Hughes and Khawaja firing, Hughes opening and Khawaja at 3, that will be good for us long term.

  • VivGilchrist on October 17, 2012, 3:03 GMT

    I would seriously consider Hughes for the ODI series this summer. He could slot nicely into the no3 spot. This may be a good way of getting his international legs back. Finch is another. Please no Forrest in any form of the game.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 17, 2012, 2:28 GMT

    @funkybluesman Hughes is no match for Khawaja, Hughes has got out to slips each time this year continuing from the NZ embarassment while Khawaja scores against quality bowling as he did against South Africa early in the year and against them last year in a record 400 chase. Unlike Hughes Khawaja barely got 1-2 games at a time to prove himself and how can one cement their spot in only 1-2 games. Saying that I do believe Hughes would be a better opener long term for Aus then Cowan.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 17, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    I am a fan of Brettig but he needs to stop pushing Hughes weakness's on Khawaja, its true that Hughes is a bad runner between wickets and has dropped many catches at the top level but associating those weakness's with Khawaja is completely unfair. Khawaja runs well between wickets and is a solid catcher. You have to pick a player who can handle good quality fast bowling in bouncy and testing conditions and Khawaja is the man for that. He top scored against South Africa in July when they played Derbyshire, scored a 90 against South Australia in testing conditions in game 1 when all other batsman failed and also top scored against South Africa in a record 400 chase earlier in the year when we beat them in Johanasberg. On that basis I would go for Khawaja

  • V-Man_ on October 17, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    May be its time to move on from Hughes & Khawaja. May be Wade can play as a batsman. These two guys are very similar to Ravi Bopara of England. Good in the domestic League but not good enough for international. Forget about the fielding and running between the wickets, both of them needs to improve their batting alot. May be spend some time with Bob Simpson. Certainly helped me improve my batting and fielding.

  • Mary_786 on October 16, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    @CricHorizon is on the mark, predicting that Khawaja will be back in the team within the next few months as he piles runs for Qld.

  • funkybluesman on October 16, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    Re: Haleos, what imports are you talking about here? Australia doesn't have any imports in their current team, or even close to it. Not sure what you are getting at. Certainly can't be talking about Khawaja. He may have been born in Pakistan, but he's been in Australia since he was a very young boy. Ever heard him speak? It's a full Australian accent, because he's an Aussie.

    Re: NickKnightIsMyBunny - I do expect Hughes will return to the test side within the next two years and will likely finish his test career with at least 5000 test runs averaging close to 50, if not more. The selectors won't make the mistake again of picking him while out of form and throwing him to the wolves like last time. If Hughes plays in the next Ashes you should be very afraid, because he'll have been picked on the back of a lot of runs and the English will spend a lot of time picking the ball up from the boundary.

  • funkybluesman on October 16, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    Hey, CricHorizon, you complain about Hughes and Khawaja being lumped together as if Hughes is no match for Khawaja in any way. You mention "poor average" against Hughes, yet he has better averages at both test and first class level and makes more big scores. Khawaja in his tests so far has looked very scratchy and unsure of himself throughout all the innings he's played.

    While Hughes has had certain points where bowlers have managed to attack him, it's actually comments from outsiders getting into his head about his technique causing him to doubt his technique, try to change it and not bat like himself that have caused more of his problems, and he's the sort of batsman that the bowlers may have a chance against early, but also need to get early because once he gets going he makes big scores.

    So far, Khawaja hasn't shown anything like as many positive qualities as Hughes.

  • Meety on October 16, 2012, 22:51 GMT

    @Aamir Rasool Chaudhry - in Oz - it has ALWAYS been a factor. In countries like Pakistan & India it isn't & look what you get. Pakistan could be the best team in the world if they fielded at a standard near Oz, Saffas & Eng. @ ravikb on (October 16 2012, 10:46 AM GMT) - true in respect of the Baggy Green, but he was dropped by NSW & from the National ODI side. @CricHorizon on - Langar was a great short leg fielder (one of Oz's best ever) & he was reasonable in the slips & was very good in the gully. Inzy was actually a good slips fielder, it was in the covers where he was poor, & Sachin was for most of his early part of his career the best fielder India had. The criticsms of Khawaja are fair & constructive, I would hope that a) Ussie learns of this in a one on one discussion first rather in the newspapers, b) Takes this on board, as like him or loathe him, the discipline & work ethics of Punter is 2nd to NONE!

  • on October 16, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    Ponting is a Legend of cricket thats alot to live up to for them two who are 2 pretty average players.

  • on October 16, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    The people bagging out Hughes must have short memories. It wasn't that long ago he was blasting the best fast bowlers in the world to the fence in South Africa - in his first three tests. He was rushed back into the team too quickly while his confidence was down so it's good to see the selectors aren't going to make the same mistake twice. He needs to show he's past his yips and can fulfil his promise.

  • Essex_Man on October 16, 2012, 21:02 GMT

    What an embarrassing shambles! Hilarious that the walking wicket Hughes is still in contention. Can't wait for next summer's Ashes.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on October 16, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    "Nobody's written off..." they say. Then explain this: why throw away the careers of the likes of Katich, Hauritz, McKay... and instead hang on to the likes of Hughes, Smith, Doherty, Beer... all tried and failed time and time again, instead of giving decent players like the aforementioned three a decent run in the game? There seems to be an overwhelming desire these days, for players to be able to tick two or even three boxes out of bowling/batting/fielding, which is understandable in a way... But does that really justify picking players who are mediocre at all three disciplines ahead of those sure of at least two, or at the very least exceptional at one?

  • Rolling_in_The_Deep on October 16, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    @CricHorizon.. Plz dont put Tendulkar in that list of below average fielders.. Tendulkar is a very good outfielder with a good throw that thuds in keepers' gloves... Inzi was a good slip catcher though not a good outfielder..

  • on October 16, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    @CricHorizon...you say hughes has a poor average. In Test matches, it's a respectable 34.5. Kwaja's average is under 30 in same format.

  • Haleos on October 16, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    Why is there so much fuss about khwaja. Looks like a ordinary player. First class average 43 is hardly impressive. Australia going the Pomm way. Relying on an import to sort out their batting

  • PACERONE on October 16, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    Khawaja should move his alliance to another country before it is too late.This bull of presenting yourself to the other batsman is rubbish.Running around like a young man does not count for anything.Good teams find fielding positions for their players.Cowdrey,Simpson and Sharpe never ran around in the covers.Were they any better catchers than them?How many times have Pointing and Watson and others been run out stupidly?If you check Watson's record at the start of his career you will see that he had multiple chances at the start of his innings.Khawaja and Hughes have not been that lucky.Marsh and North were give multiple chances,Khawaja was not.Give the young man a chance.

  • Sunil_Batra on October 16, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    @ CricHorizon well said mate, I think Inevarity is looking for reasons not to pick Khawaja, neither of Langer, Inzy, Sanga, martyn were amazing runners between wickets and in the case of Inzy and Langer not the best of fielders too. But you can only keep class out of the team for so long, he should have a great season for Qld and will win his spot back. Also always felt that he was never given a proper run in the Aussie team as he was always just playing 1-2 tests at one time unlike Cowan and Marsh who had 2 full series before being dropped.

  • Flemo_Gilly on October 16, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    @Macca_mat well said bud, looking forward to watching Khawaja get back in the Aussie side as he would be the perfect replacment for Punter once the great man retires. Also with so much cricket its fantactic to have batsman such as Khawaja, Forrest, and Maddinson to call up on and it will be great if they continue to have good seasons. Hughes still has alot of work to do to work around his technical issues and agree with CricHorizon that it makes no sense to lump Hughes and Khawaja together as done in this article. @cricHorizon great point on langer, Ranatunga and Inzi not being good fielders and yet were great players. Khawaja will be be back soon where he belongs.

  • Paul_Rampley on October 16, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    @thebarmyarmy Khawaja unlike alot of the South African's in the English team grew up in Aus and is a product of our system. I believe Peterson and Trott both came through the SA systems. I think Inevarity needs to come up with better reasons on why Khawaja is not being picked as you only have to watch footage from Big Bash last year to show that he is a good fielder. With regards the dropped catch in the game against Vic it was a tough catch high up to his left which most fielders would have struggled to take. His running between the wickets is also fine so I am not sure what Inevarity is referring to. I predict that he will have a great season for Qld and get his spot back in the Aus side in the coming months

  • Mary_786 on October 16, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    Looking forward to watching the likes of Khawaja and Hughes make it back in the Aussie team. Khawaja is a good runner between the wickets and is a great fielder in the circle and is improving his slips fielding with QLD this year. When the champion Punter retires I think Khawaja will be the right man to take over the number 3 or 4 spot as he has one of the better techniques out of the younger batsman as acknowledged by the likes of Border, Clarke and Inevarity.

  • on October 16, 2012, 12:26 GMT

    Who would open for Aussies....warner or ??

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on October 16, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    Sadly ,the Poms don't have anybody 'inspiring' any confidence -they never could even boast of anyone half as good as Ponting in their history.The only one they have/had is not even their own and turned out more a showman than any 'inspiration'.Another matter they realized they are worthless without him playing for them (proven) and had to beg him to return to the team after dishing a pile of humiliation.Took some time coming the realization but in the end it came nonetheless.

  • ozwriter on October 16, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    the criticism of khawaja here is ridiculous. "his running between the wickets, demonstrating that energy and vitality". thats such an iffy subjective way to screw a player. did you see langer run? or damien martyn? or sangakarra? seems he is just looking for problems now.

  • ozwriter on October 16, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    did anyone see langer field? or tendulkar? or inzamamul haque? all great batsmen and less than average fielders. this article is farce.

  • ozwriter on October 16, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    i dont know why the author always chooses to lump hughes and khawaja together.

    in case it isnt obvious, hughe has technical frailties, poor average and lack of temperament and test match technique despite a 12 month plus extended run. khwaja is technically birlliant, has the temperament and has only been given 'one off' test matches without an extended run. putting them in the same drawer is ridiculous.

  • on October 16, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    @ravikb ... Gilchrist is the exception. Every other Great Australian player has been dropped at some stage .... even Bradman! Ponting was in and out early, Steve Waugh was dropped for his brother, Hayden, Langer & Martyn got picked young then spent years out of the side. Khawaja & Hughes will get their chances again.

  • Simoc on October 16, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    Aamir: Your answer is since cricket began. It doesn't start out as a paid venture and no matter how good you are you will be fielding more than 60% of the time. Bad fielders cost runs and are disliked by the team. They have a short bench life. It's the same in every team so obviously you don't play the game.

  • thebarmyarmy on October 16, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    Im sure Ponting is inspiring to any Pakistani trying to make it in Australia.

  • ashish514 on October 16, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    @Carpathian and Aamir Rasool Chaudhary- Nobody is talking about Ponting's selection here. The only thing Inverarity said here is that the young players should take inspiration from him and improve their fielding. Where have they defended Ponting's selection?? They didn't say anything about him being selected for his fielding.

  • ravikb on October 16, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    "We've gone and done a study of the last 50 or so years, and the reality is pretty much everybody's got dropped. And it's part of their journey," I know there is a certain player called Adam Gilchrist who had never been dropped from the team.

  • Simoc on October 16, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    I think that is excellent from selectors. It is what it should be . Lets hope Peter Forrest will come back as well because his early season runs have not been significant. Hughes and Kuwaja have a way to go but the competition is not great so they would help Oz by getting their acts together sooner. A couple of centuries each against good bowling would do the trick.

  • Carpathian on October 16, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    Always the fielding defence for Ponting... How about show some decisiveness and get rid of a player who (the India series) apart has been struggling for a couple of years - boosting opposition morale - and offers nothing in the even the medium-term.

  • on October 16, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    catching and fielding is pretty important. if you drop a few catches that can cost hundreds of runs, just as good as scoring them.

  • on October 16, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    Hughes I think needs to forget about test cricket and concentrate on the shorter formats which I think he will prove much better at as he is a more attacking batsman who likes to take the game to the bowlers. Australia should try him at no3 in the odi side.

  • on October 16, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    Since when did test selection for a batsman hinge on their ability to field? If they can that's great but it's runs they score that you're paying them for ... Australian selection policies #FacePalm

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  • on October 16, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    Since when did test selection for a batsman hinge on their ability to field? If they can that's great but it's runs they score that you're paying them for ... Australian selection policies #FacePalm

  • on October 16, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    Hughes I think needs to forget about test cricket and concentrate on the shorter formats which I think he will prove much better at as he is a more attacking batsman who likes to take the game to the bowlers. Australia should try him at no3 in the odi side.

  • on October 16, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    catching and fielding is pretty important. if you drop a few catches that can cost hundreds of runs, just as good as scoring them.

  • Carpathian on October 16, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    Always the fielding defence for Ponting... How about show some decisiveness and get rid of a player who (the India series) apart has been struggling for a couple of years - boosting opposition morale - and offers nothing in the even the medium-term.

  • Simoc on October 16, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    I think that is excellent from selectors. It is what it should be . Lets hope Peter Forrest will come back as well because his early season runs have not been significant. Hughes and Kuwaja have a way to go but the competition is not great so they would help Oz by getting their acts together sooner. A couple of centuries each against good bowling would do the trick.

  • ravikb on October 16, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    "We've gone and done a study of the last 50 or so years, and the reality is pretty much everybody's got dropped. And it's part of their journey," I know there is a certain player called Adam Gilchrist who had never been dropped from the team.

  • ashish514 on October 16, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    @Carpathian and Aamir Rasool Chaudhary- Nobody is talking about Ponting's selection here. The only thing Inverarity said here is that the young players should take inspiration from him and improve their fielding. Where have they defended Ponting's selection?? They didn't say anything about him being selected for his fielding.

  • thebarmyarmy on October 16, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    Im sure Ponting is inspiring to any Pakistani trying to make it in Australia.

  • Simoc on October 16, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    Aamir: Your answer is since cricket began. It doesn't start out as a paid venture and no matter how good you are you will be fielding more than 60% of the time. Bad fielders cost runs and are disliked by the team. They have a short bench life. It's the same in every team so obviously you don't play the game.

  • on October 16, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    @ravikb ... Gilchrist is the exception. Every other Great Australian player has been dropped at some stage .... even Bradman! Ponting was in and out early, Steve Waugh was dropped for his brother, Hayden, Langer & Martyn got picked young then spent years out of the side. Khawaja & Hughes will get their chances again.