The drugged cricketer October 16, 2006

A bad board blames its players

The PCB's game of passing the buck is deplorable
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A PCB official has told Cricinfo that the players are responsible for this situation and were given a booklet explaining what is legal and what is illegal. This game of passing the buck is deplorable and offers a wonderful insight into why the PCB stumbles from one disaster to another.

Even the most highly educated individuals fail to absorb the majority of information delivered to them in seminars and booklets. Few people could tell you every ingredient in what they have eaten. Few patients have a good idea of the drugs they are being administered.

Asif and Shoaib might be utterly to blame but then again they might not and Shoaib has already protested his innocence.

This premature damnation from the PCB is embarrassing and it contrasts sharply with the message that Younis Khan and Bob Woolmer are sending out that the players, management, and administration must accept collective responsibility. The PCB should hold its tongue until it has got to the bottom of this sorry affair, an affair that has done much more damage to Pakistan cricket and the team's chances of winning the World Cup than the previous two disasters.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • Brandice on December 23, 2011, 16:50 GMT

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  • Biologikas on February 6, 2007, 8:59 GMT

    One day the big chief comes along and calls the Missionary into his hut, where he was sharpening his big axe. He explains to the white man that his daughter has just given birth to a white baby, and that since the missionary's the only white man for thousands of miles, the missionary will be the "main course" at dinner that night.

    "Now just hang on a minute, give me a chance to explain, chief," says the Missionary. "You're jumping to conclusions here. Let me tell you a story. See all those white sheep out in the field and how there's one black one amongst them." The Chief thinks for a moment. "OK!" says the Chief, "You say nothing, I say nothing."

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  • Faisal Sharafat on October 17, 2006, 10:06 GMT

    Pakistan is full of talented players like our current team and at the same time, PCB is full of dumb managers. Giving a booklet on ICC's Anti-Doping Policy, written in English, to players who can barely speak English with their foreign coach is of no use because we are aware about the educational levels of our players. Proper coaching & guidance (like Australian Board) was necessary. May Allah be with Shoaib & Asif to come out of this trauma? Our team and Nation are in shock because of this ignorance.

  • ahsan shafqat on October 17, 2006, 9:56 GMT

    Whats happening since the last month. Entir board is responsible for this because they have any check and balance. They people who are sitting at top managment they does not know any thing about to run this institution. PCB is earning more than any other organization. but i have no comments to tell. After this act i am very sad

  • nomad on October 17, 2006, 9:50 GMT

    I think the problem lies in equal measure with the players as well as the board. Given the history of indiscipline and pressure tactics used by Pakistani players through the years, it is no surprise that some may feel that they can get away with anything.

    The board too is to be blamed for encouraging 'stars' and the 'i am invincible' culture. Given the poltitics and political clout used, such chaos and incidents are only to be expected.

  • Syed Yusuf Mehdi on October 17, 2006, 9:49 GMT

    Bravo! PCB has done it again. It is really fascinating how they keep coming up with fresh ideas to screw their own players ... and, therefore, the team. Why on earth did they need to make the results public when the tests were an internal affair? The players could have been recalled on any pretext. Remember what Cricket Australia did with Warne and Mark Waugh in 1995? Nothing. They kept the matter under wraps. Why must Pakistan shoot itself in the foot? Well only PCB can answer.

  • Aamir Islam on October 17, 2006, 9:48 GMT

    Shoaib and Asif should be given the benefit of doubt until proven guilty. I donot think they are stupid enough to take such a step knowingly. There is a big chance that their doctor or hakim may have given that substance to them during their recovery last summer. Come on give them a break.

  • Seeko on October 17, 2006, 9:46 GMT

    I rememeber listening to Asif's interview last month, which brought to be some surprises. He is from a Pakistani village, and we all understand how educated those lads are. In addition, this bloke has recently been exposed to International Cricket. Considering how much significance PCB has given to the drug policy ever, the chances that Asif knew what he was taking are extremely slim, to me atleast. I am not even sure if this lad can fully absorb the information in the anti-drug "booklet".

    I agree. PCB has once again proved its disasterous administration to the entire world.

  • Irfan Jaffry on October 17, 2006, 9:46 GMT

    Why the board is presenting the players at villian in this episode. It might turn out that they themselves or their heavily paid medical team is responsible for all that. Even if it is not, then they should atleast keep a step to go back to save their faces. Players are offcourse a bigger asset that the board. Who knows when the next set up is selected and who will remember these board officials. Players are with their performance and we love them.

  • ashok on October 17, 2006, 9:43 GMT

    I think board should take responsibility of whatever happened with its players. Players do mistakes by taking medicines by chance or they want to improve their performance. All blame goes to the board committee,

  • Brandice on December 23, 2011, 16:50 GMT

    These topics are so confusing but this heepld me get the job done.

  • Biologikas on February 6, 2007, 8:59 GMT

    One day the big chief comes along and calls the Missionary into his hut, where he was sharpening his big axe. He explains to the white man that his daughter has just given birth to a white baby, and that since the missionary's the only white man for thousands of miles, the missionary will be the "main course" at dinner that night.

    "Now just hang on a minute, give me a chance to explain, chief," says the Missionary. "You're jumping to conclusions here. Let me tell you a story. See all those white sheep out in the field and how there's one black one amongst them." The Chief thinks for a moment. "OK!" says the Chief, "You say nothing, I say nothing."

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  • Faisal Sharafat on October 17, 2006, 10:06 GMT

    Pakistan is full of talented players like our current team and at the same time, PCB is full of dumb managers. Giving a booklet on ICC's Anti-Doping Policy, written in English, to players who can barely speak English with their foreign coach is of no use because we are aware about the educational levels of our players. Proper coaching & guidance (like Australian Board) was necessary. May Allah be with Shoaib & Asif to come out of this trauma? Our team and Nation are in shock because of this ignorance.

  • ahsan shafqat on October 17, 2006, 9:56 GMT

    Whats happening since the last month. Entir board is responsible for this because they have any check and balance. They people who are sitting at top managment they does not know any thing about to run this institution. PCB is earning more than any other organization. but i have no comments to tell. After this act i am very sad

  • nomad on October 17, 2006, 9:50 GMT

    I think the problem lies in equal measure with the players as well as the board. Given the history of indiscipline and pressure tactics used by Pakistani players through the years, it is no surprise that some may feel that they can get away with anything.

    The board too is to be blamed for encouraging 'stars' and the 'i am invincible' culture. Given the poltitics and political clout used, such chaos and incidents are only to be expected.

  • Syed Yusuf Mehdi on October 17, 2006, 9:49 GMT

    Bravo! PCB has done it again. It is really fascinating how they keep coming up with fresh ideas to screw their own players ... and, therefore, the team. Why on earth did they need to make the results public when the tests were an internal affair? The players could have been recalled on any pretext. Remember what Cricket Australia did with Warne and Mark Waugh in 1995? Nothing. They kept the matter under wraps. Why must Pakistan shoot itself in the foot? Well only PCB can answer.

  • Aamir Islam on October 17, 2006, 9:48 GMT

    Shoaib and Asif should be given the benefit of doubt until proven guilty. I donot think they are stupid enough to take such a step knowingly. There is a big chance that their doctor or hakim may have given that substance to them during their recovery last summer. Come on give them a break.

  • Seeko on October 17, 2006, 9:46 GMT

    I rememeber listening to Asif's interview last month, which brought to be some surprises. He is from a Pakistani village, and we all understand how educated those lads are. In addition, this bloke has recently been exposed to International Cricket. Considering how much significance PCB has given to the drug policy ever, the chances that Asif knew what he was taking are extremely slim, to me atleast. I am not even sure if this lad can fully absorb the information in the anti-drug "booklet".

    I agree. PCB has once again proved its disasterous administration to the entire world.

  • Irfan Jaffry on October 17, 2006, 9:46 GMT

    Why the board is presenting the players at villian in this episode. It might turn out that they themselves or their heavily paid medical team is responsible for all that. Even if it is not, then they should atleast keep a step to go back to save their faces. Players are offcourse a bigger asset that the board. Who knows when the next set up is selected and who will remember these board officials. Players are with their performance and we love them.

  • ashok on October 17, 2006, 9:43 GMT

    I think board should take responsibility of whatever happened with its players. Players do mistakes by taking medicines by chance or they want to improve their performance. All blame goes to the board committee,

  • Malik on October 17, 2006, 9:42 GMT

    We shouldn't blame the PCB. The mistake belongs to the individual. Again Shoaid Akthar showed his character that he is a culprit. Eventhough Warne is a great player, they dropped him. So ICC should drop both Shoaib and Asif

  • Khalid on October 17, 2006, 9:41 GMT

    What can i say after such a disaster that both top players are out of the in such Prestigious tournament where every one from all over the world were anxious to see both players in action BUT they are out from the team now because what they done is not I think their fault. I think PCB always wants to remain in the HOT NEWS every day whether those are in favor of Pakistan or NOT they just want to involve themselves in such a petty issues that became disaster in the end…….!!

  • sunil on October 17, 2006, 9:31 GMT

    This is the highlight expression of PCB's continous controversy and with their players ego.now bob woolmer scratching his head for what to do? so the next shocking news is bob woolmer might be resign.

  • hamza on October 17, 2006, 9:29 GMT

    i dont think PCB has done a right job. the whole country will blame PCB from now on.

  • Saleem Abbasi on October 17, 2006, 9:29 GMT

    Its very easy to give comments but to face the scene is demanding. Now every body blames each other like kids do, tell me one thing have all of the board members and officials good knowledge of the game. We must seek true professionals and right person at right place. I have a request as a Paki fan that please do not blame each other be patient and the situation can be handled with common sense.

  • zilurRehman on October 17, 2006, 9:29 GMT

    pakistan board, players, coach, manager should take the responsibilty for this issue.PCB should stop the blame game instead the should look at the rootcause of this problem

  • Rakesh on October 17, 2006, 9:26 GMT

    Take the positives from this. Pakistan is the only team from sub-continent which is doing tests. India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh they do not have started testing their players and atleast indian board is also distributing the so-called booklets. I would not be surprised if these so called booklets were suggested by the ICC. It is not like Shoiab was taking drugs for 100 meter sprint. Lets know what he has taken and it may not be that serious. The Board has many other issues than Cricket. For Cricket players should take care and do not except any favours from Board. PCB has already done a favour by keeping them in the team

  • farooq on October 17, 2006, 9:17 GMT

    it is not good for pakistan cricket & responsibility totally lies on these two guys (shoaib & asif). board cant see that what they are doing in there bathrooms.

  • nagesh on October 17, 2006, 9:10 GMT

    The pak board blames their players... westindies and india and lanka didn't conduct the doping tests,,,why the pak board conducted...why the need to reveal at this time...wt happens if they take dope...they took for quick recovery ..everyone's dream is play for country... so i think no ban on this players...

  • Tahir Rashid on October 17, 2006, 9:03 GMT

    The PCB is responsible for this whole saga. They seem to jump from one turmoil to another, what a shame! Shoaib and Asif are innocent until proven guilty and may I ask why Pak's team Dr and Physio paid so higly? It seems to me they are as much to blame as the accused.

  • Mustafa Moiz on October 17, 2006, 8:48 GMT

    Obviously their medicine had some Nandrolone.Once I was sick and had to have steroids. They had Nandrolone in their medicine. Can't the PCB figure it out?

  • E.U.Satti on October 17, 2006, 8:47 GMT

    We have more Darrel hairs in pakistan then outside.I have really sympathy for both these two bowlers. I do not know, where PCB doctor's pannel was? I am sure they knew all about players health and their activities. PCB is solely responsible for all that what happened.

  • Abdul Haleem on October 17, 2006, 8:25 GMT

    I am deeply shocked ans surprised to hear the wrodings of our PCB board CEO Nasim Ashraf that every one is praising us. I think he has done this just for fame and praise, he is new and wants his presence to be known out there. If he was a little sensible and loyal to the cricket team, as the board is because of team,he should have had delayed it. In view of many physiians the said medicine is not so effective and is also ingredient of other medicines taken for other puprose. I think Nasim should have used sense and delayed this issue till the end of the ICC Champions trophy, as tournaments are for public and they want stars playing, and also for the sake of cricket which is already in dandrums these days. Overall this is stupid decision taken at the wrong time just to take attention of others and may be for some other internal interests.

  • ASAD on October 17, 2006, 8:20 GMT

    I think we should consider certain facts:

    Herbal medicines that we use in Pakistan are not yet classified as modern medicine thus we do not know which modern day steriods they contain.

    Also A and B samples that we tested were taken on same day than how can anybody say that they can be different. This was wrong sampling practice on part of PCB.

    Both these players were recovering from injuries and there is a big possibility that the steriods were in the medicine they received.

    The steriod in question is for weight gain and is known internationaly for weight recovery after injuries. Its not an energy increment, its a medicine.

  • Taimur on October 17, 2006, 8:12 GMT

    Very Very Dissappointing. doesnt matter who ever is resposible, its a shame for all of us. And comeon guys Shoaib and Asif cant be that innocent that they didnt know that what are they smoking or taking as a medicine. I hope Pakistan plays well and we cud get our lost pride back...

  • qaisar sheikh on October 17, 2006, 8:04 GMT

    well being a software engneer and spending more then 16 years seeking education, i feel no humiliation by accepting that i cannot understand medical terminology and formulas and can not even remember the names of medicine except some common ones. what is the said steeroid is mentioned in detail at cricinfo but i accept, i am unable to understand the technicality mentioned there. poor PCB says they had given the "booklets" to the players mostly of them did not even see the doors of college(not necessary to be a good crickter). May some one clear me will he go there where he is sure to be traped. then how a player of shoaib's profile will do such act which can ruin his future along side the brilliant past. i am sorry sir i cannot accept. and what is irritating, why they have called them back if the tests are yet to be confirmed. and why the schedule is set at this critical point, why every thing was not finished before sending the team there. may ALLAH bless the briiliance of crickt in pakistan and may ALLAH give some sense to officials.

  • amarakbar on October 17, 2006, 7:19 GMT

    guys relax. this has got nothing to do with drugs. there is something fishing going on. we might one day know what really happened.

  • Ammar Khawaja on October 17, 2006, 6:13 GMT

    Shoaib Again? Wonderful. Plus Asif Also? Fantastic. I feel we dont need a cricket board for cricket anymore, but a board of specialists just pointing out which player to drop and how. You see our cricket board is more concerned about other teams than our own teams healthy performance. It seems that the new formula is "when a player starts kicking, he is kicked". I congratulate PCB fro removing all the hazards that were available to Pakistan cricket team for the tournament. Now cricketing teams dont have to worry about one thing for the rest of ICC tournament "Pakistan". Thankyou PCB i am proud of you, your activities should be appluaded worldwide, accept Pakistan ofcourse.

  • Yasir Irfat on October 17, 2006, 6:05 GMT

    I think that is it, The shoaib chapter should close now. he has played just 42 tests, and how many he have won for Pakistan. And the amount of controversy brought, and bad behaviour voids all the matches he had played in brilliantly.

    If a person like Shane Warne is not above law who has taken 680 wkts in 140 matches over such a long period of time for Australia.

    Come on, Pakistan was much better team when these players were not playing about two years ago, we ranked almost to second coming from 7th place. PCB should decide now it is time to say farewell to Shoaib.

  • Faridoon on October 17, 2006, 5:26 GMT

    The only common denominator between Asif and Akhtar is that they were both making a recovery from injuries. The possibility of some medicine containing nandrolone has been quite rightly pointed out here.

    That the PCB has tried to distance itself from the incident by stating that all the players were given literature on drugs shows that they themselves might think that they are responsible as well.

    When my two nephews berak something in their house, each one is pointing fingers at the other even before any allegations are brought forth. I find this exactly akin to PCB exonerating themselves even before anyone has asked them to explain.

  • Suresh Kumar on October 17, 2006, 5:18 GMT

    As Pakistan cricket stumbles from one disaster to another, I can think of only one person who can clear all the mess for them and act as a mentor, guide and motivator for the team to recoup and regroup for the Champions Trophy now, and the World Cup later: IMRAN KHAN. It's not too late to bring him in and get him to work alongside Bob Woolmer. Can anyone question IMRAN's leadership qualities?

  • Abdul Kadir Hussain on October 17, 2006, 5:05 GMT

    Cricket is now a world class professional business. If you the the NBA, the NHL or any American sports league run like the PCB you would not last a day. But what Mr. Abbasi, and most of the commentors are doing here is simply pointing the finger. Where is the solution?

    I have one, but its too long and detailed to go through here. Bottom line is you need a professionally structured organization run by professional business people, cricketers are only a small part of that puzzle. Think of it like any service business, take airlines for example. The plane and the crew are a relative small, albeit crucial part of the process, without the rest of the organization an Airline does not exist. So it is witht the PCB.

  • Raja on October 17, 2006, 5:01 GMT

    I hate players who use performance enhancing drugs. I am a big fan of Shoaib Akhtar, I hope there was some problems with the tests.

  • Shoaib on October 17, 2006, 4:24 GMT

    If only the guys running the show realize what huge potential they have, the PCB can give WWE a run for its money in the sports/soap opera category

  • Khalid Khan on October 17, 2006, 3:41 GMT

    Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:

    "Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise. The reason for this unexpected result has not been determined."

    Seems premature for PCB to take action based upon urine sample test results. Timing is bad; after team has been selected and left, pretty disorganized. It concerns me that PCB does not have a communication representative, apparently everyone there likes to talk to the media. We should keep in mind that we are dealing with symptoms coming out of PCB, about time we should try find out "causes" and address them.

  • Lakshman on October 17, 2006, 2:55 GMT

    Iread your comment and also some of the comments on this whole fiasco. Shoaib and Asif were injured. Perhaps this drug could have been part of the medication that they took to get them selves into shape fast. Since many boards look at their players coming out of injury prior to the period that is recomended isnt it unfare to say that Shoaib and Asif have used a banned drug until they could fully clarify. On one side side you want them out of injury fast on the other you ban them. And the PCB i think they need professionals to run the board.

  • Bilal Choudry on October 17, 2006, 2:39 GMT

    Sad sad PCB

    Makes me sick to know that they are applying the punishment the western style and the preventive measure pakistani style.

    Sportsmen are not medical professionals, the board should scrutnize the dieteritions or doctors.

    I also feel that there is more to it, in terms of this new chairman and sudden sacking of Mushtaq it almost seems like he has some scores to settle

    Very sad day for every Pakistan fan

  • Zain Ahmed on October 17, 2006, 2:28 GMT

    Why not spare a moment for Bob Woolmer who was inspired to come to pakistan to lead a rag-tag but highly talented outfit, but several months hence probably regrets his decision. He likely feels that two years of effort in a totally foreign environment, full of personal sacrafices has led him to yet nought. Another Jemina perhaps?

  • Ali Hassan Lodhi on October 17, 2006, 1:31 GMT

    I believe both Asif $ Shoiab will get a ban of some where around 6 months to one year. Reason is PCB will try to please everybody i.e. WADA, ICC and players, as ICC has done in Oval fiasco. Just wait and see.

  • M on October 17, 2006, 1:28 GMT

    PCB should be blamed for this,in fact the medical borard which supervised recuperation of both Asif and Shoaib should be held accountable.Its a rarity that a patient knows what are the exact ingerdients of the drug hes taking, Shoaib and Asif are barely educated enough to know milk has lactic acid how would they know that what they are using is an anabolic steroid rather than some innocent drug.BTW...the muscle cushion aborund Asif's and Shoaib's groin area,which one has noticed only recently, could be the direct result of nandrolone.Anyways its an idiotic move on PCB's part since even if the IIC doesn't band them they board would have to do something.

  • Dr. Abdul-Rahim Ahmad on October 17, 2006, 1:20 GMT

    I agree. If they were really so proactive then this saga wouldn't have started in India. They would have done so before the team's departure.

    May I ask what was the language of those information sheets/seminars? When most of our players are not very frequent with English then why absove yourself by saying "we gave them information sheets". I am a PhD in Systems Engineering and all my relations (parents and siblings included) are doctor of medicine. When they are talking about their field among themselves then I find very little stuff decipherable. I may look like arrogant but I think I should be more capable of understanding 'english' and 'medicine' than our cricketers (being a professor in an english medium university in Canada and being spend all my life's 35 yrs among a large group of doctors).

    Still, I would wait till everything transpires to make any judgement on players' guilt.

  • Omar Ansari on October 17, 2006, 1:00 GMT

    Haha I can't believe this, whats wrong with the pcb? They try and evade one disaster only to find themselves engulfed in another one, why can't we have sensible people running the pcb for a change?

  • mma on October 17, 2006, 0:10 GMT

    It is clear that Pakistan cricket has hit rock bottom with todays revelations. The explosion of income,interest and mass participation in cricket that came from the 1992 World Cup win has yielded a series of inadvertent consequences. The 1992 generation were ruined by the fame and glory they got at an early stage of their career while the PCB has increasingly become a magnet for ill qualified political appointees who relish the prominence and influence they gain from being related to a glamorous international sport. As a Pakistan supporter one can only hope that one day both Pakistan cricket and the country escape from this dark tunnel.

  • Mani on October 17, 2006, 0:09 GMT

    Inzamam and a lot of people considered the ball tampering allegation at Oval as the ultimate disrespect for Pakistan, because it implied cheat. IF, repeat, IF, the allegation (with some sort of proof available so far) of drug abuse proves correct, will Inzi, insist on the PCB and publicly demand bans for Shoaib and Asif ? Not only Inzi, all others? But official comments from PCB washing the hands off is just nothing but another goosra (googly+doosra).

  • I. Butt on October 16, 2006, 23:57 GMT

    Let's face it...we are showing the same character in PCB that exists in Pakistan's society, in political and administrative institutions. You can look everywhere from within a family or all the way to the President of Pakistan, and this character is obvious. Currently, I see a KHICHRI being cooked in PCB where, 1) Both Management and Team within are divided in groups 2) I see more bombshells exploding in coming days...just wait this tournament to be over.

    In all...I am as frustrated as I am about the sorrow state of the Pakistani affairs...

  • A Agarwal on October 16, 2006, 21:55 GMT

    PCB must get to the root cause. I see a common link between the two players. PCB should keep incompetents and hot heads away from positions of power; in turn, players, support staff and others, ought to know their responsibilities for good conduct. Once the team is well managed and plays according to the spirit of the game, all else is just ususal differences over players, tactics, etc.

  • Mian Zain Zubair on October 16, 2006, 21:41 GMT

    Shoaib Akhtar's career has been full of controversies and he has managed to carry on against all odds.I am sure, he is going to come out of it too.I think International Cricket needs someone like shoaib to keep the interest of the viewers going.If we dont see him again on a cricket field it would be a combined loss for all the people who love this beautiful game called Cricket...!!

  • Fahad on October 16, 2006, 20:29 GMT

    Now Asif and Shoaib are no old pals..it confuses me when i think of how just the two of these would be involved in using drugs. If a drug like this was used for its actual intent, then probably many more senior players would have tested positive. Asif and Shoaib just doesn't click..new boy and veteran?!? Along those lines..it just makes me think that maybe the drug was used unintentionally as part of their recovery from injuries i.e the drugs they used to recover could have had some amount of Nandrolone.

  • Cricket Junky on October 16, 2006, 20:08 GMT

    What else is new for PCB. They are quick to pass the bucks. Why can't they wait to open their mouth untill they get to the bottom of this recent controversy.

  • kamran on October 16, 2006, 20:03 GMT

    PCB is a mess, to me it seems the lack quite a lot of manament skills,vision,training etc.. They have to be considered as one of the all time worst managements in the history of any country. They seem to lack commen sense and the ability to take controle of the situations. A sad day..

  • Syed Hamid Mukhtar Shah on October 16, 2006, 19:54 GMT

    i feel that the board should take responsibility and moin khan himself was stating on Geo that players have never been informed about drug tests and certainly dont know anything about the severity of the implications of being caught drugging. Lets see what comes out of this disaster. I just hope that we dont lose akhtar and asif for the world cup.

  • Irfan Sair on October 16, 2006, 19:53 GMT

    i have nothing much to say about shoaib but Asif can never do such a thing on his own, pcb is to be blamed for all these sick incidents. May God bless Pakistan cricket with some wise and educated managers and bosses.

  • Farhan (California) on October 16, 2006, 19:51 GMT

    "Players were given a booklet." An imprudent statement from our amateur administrators. Salim Altaf and Talat Ali, the two PCB cronies responsible for this statement should be given, jointly, the dummy of the year award. The pacifier trophy should actually be used by these two for the rest of 2007.

  • Nauman Iqbal on October 16, 2006, 19:50 GMT

    couldn't agree more

  • Zukhraf on October 16, 2006, 19:44 GMT

    I definately agree with you. The right tactic for the PCB should have been to call back the players, have a full investigation before openely embarassing its own players and country. This is what I found on the steroid they were found using: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nandrolone and from this I qoute "Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise" with both players recovering from injury, It wont be surprising if they were simply on a high protien diet.

  • Awais Misri on October 16, 2006, 19:42 GMT

    Why?? Just Why?? So close to major tournaments??? I don't understand! The last 2 years under inzi and woolmer went so well! Its like pakistan cricket has been tunred on its head, and really messed up (i really would describe it in much more colorful language, but in a public domain, can not do so)

  • Sandip on October 16, 2006, 19:23 GMT

    Whatever, blaming players by board is most deplorable act. I wonder why board at first place allow players to hire personal doctors or trainers. All doctors/therapists should be registered under cricket board; board should appoint them to respective players in case of injuries etc. Blaming players is not a solution , I hope they’ll learn from it and do something so no such thing happens. Now, lets see how severe punishment they give to tarnished blokes.

  • kamal on October 16, 2006, 19:19 GMT

    pcb are an absolutely useless bunch of people.how can u expect pakistani cricketers,majority of them unable to understand english,to read a booklet about drugs. players job is to play cricket.its the administration's job to guide the players on these matters.pcb's responsiblity doesnot end with providing players with a booklet.they have to do alot more to ensure that these things dont happen.they should act maturely in this time of calamity

  • Shahnawaz Khan on October 16, 2006, 19:19 GMT

    This is an excellant example of failure of cricket board institution. PCB has been run on adhoc basis for years. Most of pakistani players probably have no clue which medicine they should used or which they should not, mostprobably they are ill advised. This is huge setback to Pakistani cricket and probaly follow the same path as Hockey and squash has gone and will lose interest of Pakistani crowd.

  • Usman on October 16, 2006, 19:12 GMT

    PCB runs on the back of beaurucracy and they think like that. Thinking and acting on lines which complement teams performance and handling issues in a sporting manner can never be expected from them. A Ban on shoib and Asif, No Inzi, unreliable Opening, disappointed and under pressure coach and a new captain, really it needs no einstien to figure out our perofrmance in the campions trophy.

  • Udaydeep Bola on October 16, 2006, 19:00 GMT

    I wonder if this will lead to justice either way or another round of Asian Bloc muscle flexing leading to these results being quickly pushed under the carpet?

  • mohd khawaja on October 16, 2006, 18:54 GMT

    frankly speaking,watever is happening,its happening for a reason.Pakistan Cricket Board is the source of guidance for the players. and they are mainly responsible for all events that has happened in past.its a circle.players,coach,management.the most undisciplined department in pakistan cricket is the board. personally,as a cricket lover,im just simply disappointed and deeply shocked with whats happening with pakistan cricket.in a city,reputations of schools are recognized on teir success % of their students.now imagine the reputation of PCB in world cricket and their way of handling and educating players,,,,,just rediculous.even then good luck pakistan cricket,im always with u and my prayers too.i love u all

  • Mustafa New York on October 16, 2006, 18:54 GMT

    PCB has to get bottom of this; and lauch an inquiry to find the facts. It is very sad situation for team players. May God help them to get out of this. Stand firm, be united and win the games Pak starts

  • Raffat on October 16, 2006, 18:39 GMT

    agreed, but having said that if shoib is sane enough to look into his brand endorsement and hire nabila and frieha for personnel grooming, he surely should have hired a drugs consultant as well. as far as asif is concerned..wel he's a new kid on the block and would learn stuff as he matures .

  • Cheri Powers on October 16, 2006, 18:39 GMT

    Whatever respect I had from the PCB is gone.

    Woolmer also isn't showing up in a good light either.

    And that the test was taken a few weeks ago just makes these results even less relevant.

    This is all simply appalling - bad management, bad judgment and lack of responsibility by anyone. And Shoaib and Asif are being sacrificed to what end?

  • Zahid Irfan on October 16, 2006, 18:31 GMT

    I believe that Sohaib Akhtar and M Asif are no kids. This is the first time that we have caught people doing hanky panky in sports in Pakistan. How many times this sentence has been repeated but again it needs to be repeated that its time we start playing fairly rather than like mobs or kids. Oval Test was an example, then Younis Khan's resignation and now this affair where Sohaib says he is not speaking coz the President told him not to, while he believes he is innocent. This all brings us to what Woolmer recently said that Pakistanis lag behind other cricketing nations in terms of professionalism. So Pakistan Cricket Team better start being professionals.

  • Bassaam Fawad on October 16, 2006, 18:30 GMT

    I agree, PCB is passing the buck and one has to take into account the background of the players. The players are not exposed to the intricacies of doping regulations because doping regulations haven't been a prominent issue in cricket.

  • tahir on October 16, 2006, 18:26 GMT

    its planed one can doped positive but not two and third suspicous.some one has played with pakistani ace,s

  • Asif saleem on October 16, 2006, 17:54 GMT

    Pakistan cricket for sure lacks leaders and visionary people. I don’t know about much about the new head of PCB, but every cricket board across the world don’t start blaming their players until and unless every thing is clear.

    I believe that representatives from Pakistan cricket board should just give a halt to their tongues until and unless every thing is clarified and if the Pakistani players are found guilty than they should be give the most severe punishment in the world possible for tarnishing the image of their country.

  • Syed on October 16, 2006, 17:48 GMT

    I just want to make a few points.First I have no intentions or desire to defend either the players or the PCB.My argument is if PCB cold have handled this situation any better, (1)an internal communication and investigation with the concerned players without affecting an ongoing tournament.(2)Publicly announcing or disclosing a deplorable act(details ????)can only invite more embarrasement and give fuel to the critics of Pakistan Cricket. (3)Not an ideal time to make such a revelation during the mini world cup.(4)It can have the potential to weaken your defence(Shoaib&Asif)even before the case starts by making it a high profile issue. Off course the legalities would still have to be considered regarding the timing of the anoouncement and recalling the players.

  • haseeb on October 16, 2006, 17:48 GMT

    It is a really sorry state for PCB to say we are clean. "Giving booklets informing about banned substances". WHAT A SHAME!!! This is the height of incompetency and unprofesionalism. How are the players supposed to know about everything.I would like to know how many of us know the ingredients of a chololate bar ...say galaxy. Something we commonly have. Pick it up and surprise yourself with the 20 odd ingredients.

  • Armughan on October 16, 2006, 17:34 GMT

    Something is really fishy. Why Asif and Shoaib? Really, there are a bunch of other players, why did some spinner or batsman use em? You get rid of the best bowlers and that could easily be it for a team, for a few years. All the drama from Oval fiasco till now has been an unbeleivably badly handled by the board. It is obvious that gone are the days when there were elements of corruption in our cricket team. But can we be sure that this ad-hoc board is not benefiting from offers to gift some cups, not those that are used for tea offcourse. Throw a team in jeopardy, and the chances of winning are gone. I hope that ACU really checks into our cricket board officials. I know that it is another conspiracy theory, but really one that catches one's mind. You make your own opinion.

  • Ali on October 16, 2006, 17:17 GMT

    Last but not the least, an other department is telling the story of ill planning and training of their members and what has been happeing with it. Result is there. Alas, we learn from these events, may be.

  • PoT of Kensington on October 16, 2006, 17:16 GMT

    I whole heartedly agree with the article. Even in the most difficult of situations it seems that the board is trying to save its own neck, which is quite dispicable to be honest.

  • Bilal fayyaz on October 16, 2006, 16:55 GMT

    I agree 200%

  • Iqbal Khan on October 16, 2006, 16:51 GMT

    I agree with Kamran Abbasi totally. This hasty decision to pull players back is plain stupid and indicates the nervousness and lack of judgement on part of PCB or PBC (whatever it really is). The drug tests have to be seen in the context of scientific validity and there was time available to do that-certainly there was no rush to demoralize the national team hours before major game. Here is what could have been done 'legally' without any problem with ICC. Both the players should have been informed of the test results. An inquiry into the matter should have been started and experts involved to comment on the validity of the test results. If the test results 'mean' anything really significant action could have been taken.

    Iqbal Khan

  • Naveed on October 16, 2006, 16:48 GMT

    I couldn't agree anymore. I think the Board has to take the blame. Its their incompetence that this is happening. The Board has to make sure that all his players completely understand sensitive issues like this one which ofcourse cannot be achieved by handing booklets, and even after making sure that everyone understands the issue completely its boards responsility as its hurts Pakistan and PCB. they should routinely test their players to avoid this. They will do after paying such a hig price-thats a shame.

  • Ahsan Chaudhry on October 16, 2006, 16:47 GMT

    I agree that PCB should hold its tongue until the final assessment is made but at the same time players need to be open about what they took as medicines so that they can shed off some dirt(if they feel they are innocent) which they have attracted on to them and pakistan.

  • Salman N Malik on October 16, 2006, 16:43 GMT

    This is truly shameful all around, the players involved, the team management and captain, coach and of course, the buck ought to stop with the PCB. However, it is a good thing that this was done internally i.e, the PCB found out and recalled the players involved rather than risk another international furore about "cheats". It is a sad state of affairs, and as Mr Imran Khan has said time and again, the time has come and gone whereby the PCB shuld be sacked and ad-hoc structure abolished. The game should be run by professionals, not bureaucrats, who have a tendency to lie and then beat a retreat when the going gets rough. We can kiss the Champions' Trophy and World Cup goodbye.

  • Hamza on October 16, 2006, 16:31 GMT

    I think every sportsman knows which substances are ilegetimate.What I cant understand is why is the is the first time PCB conducted its doping test? I am for for zero tolerance of taking illegal substances.If Shoaib and Asif are found guilty,they should be banned for life.

  • Waseem K.M on October 16, 2006, 16:31 GMT

    For goodness sake, don't we have any person with an iota tact, diplomacy and rational thinking who can provide a sane voice within the PCB ?? This is shameful and incompetent to say the least. There needs to be collective analysis of the situation and not gang up and hang the obvious without a fair trial.

  • Sohail Shad on October 16, 2006, 16:29 GMT

    i think You are pretty right on the subject.. it was a right move to call players back but on such sensative issue you as a chairman of board dont and shouldnt go out in front of media and say that you have got verbal confirmation of second sample being positive hold your tounges in for a bit we know its a hot seat you are on and must be very hot in early days ... why is board spending millions on physios and doctors when they cant keep track that whats players are taking... its not one time pill they have taken its an ongoing process .... make your minds up

  • maynak on October 16, 2006, 16:28 GMT

    hmm.....amazing, PCB and the players. There is so much ego, in-discipline, ignorance and arrogance amongst the players and officials alike. Whats worse is they are not even polished nor diplomatically schooled enough to handle these situations.

  • Abdullah Mustafa on October 16, 2006, 16:25 GMT

    This clearly shows how ineffective,unprofessional the pakistani adminstrators are.They lack the most fundamental basics on how to opearate an organization: Communication & Policy. If they were any other private business organization, they would have gone bankrupt a long time ago due to management skills, which are on par with a 3-year old on dealing with situations. Its high time we get professionals running the game.

  • Yasir Thanvi on October 16, 2006, 16:10 GMT

    this was simply the last thing one could have expected after all what has been happening to team pakistan in recent time. As said by Mr Abbasi i think that PCB is responsible for this as they pay a large sum of money to the physios and doctors in the team and as for shoaib akhtar they have hired a seperate doctor. No one in the world will know beside doctors which drug is banned and which is not. Both the players came from injury just against england and there is every possibility that they took these medicince during there rehabilitation period while being throughly monitored by doctors. i think its high time now that authorities should take responsibility rather than blaming others.it would be better if we hire specialized doctors rather than vet for team pakistan.

  • Danish on October 16, 2006, 16:09 GMT

    I fully agree with the author of this article, instead of blamming your main players this arrogantly, PCB should accept responsibility atleast partly. This is horrendous administration and has shambled Pak Cricket in pieaces. Just when we (die-hard Pak fans) were getting ready to forget about the captaincy mishap and the oval fiasco... this latest punch has absolutely shattered us. an Absolute Disgrace!

    anyways Pakistan Zindabad, Pak Cricket Zindabad.

  • Dr P Muzaffar on October 16, 2006, 16:03 GMT

    just giving a leaflet yearly is not good enough excuse, education and seminars on it is a better way. seek examples from other cricketing nation. Has any one in PCB has heard the word CONCORDANCE??

  • Neutral Comment on October 16, 2006, 16:03 GMT

    Read my assessment in another forum.

    I agree with you completely...PCB is incapable of enforcing anything. These losers are playing petty politics with players career and not thinking that it hurts Pakistan at the end.

    " Few patients have a good idea of the drugs they are being administered."

    Agreed..you can get these drugs over the counter and 99.99% of people don't even know what they have been prescribed. What if Shoaib's doc gave him some medicine?

  • zain khan on October 16, 2006, 15:54 GMT

    i feel that the pcb is one of the worst run administration in world cricket. As every team are preparing, pakistan have got players squabbling chairmans resigning, and what the hell has musharraf got to do with cricket, and why is he calling the shots. the only way the pcb will ever become successful is it separates itself from politics. that i am afraid will not happen. As for shaoib and asif i feel for them, because im sure they were ill-advised into taking something. Be leniant with pcb, as they are the future.

  • Yassir Ashraf on October 16, 2006, 15:48 GMT

    Lets not forget that both these gentlemen are adults and especially in the case of Shoaib, has vast international exposure. Finding scapegoats, passing the back, conspiracy theories and refuting damning evidence are our national pastimes, much more so than the game of cricket. Whatever happened to taking responsibilty for your actions. But I guess that has vanished from our collective psyche. Or was it ever there to begin with. At a time like this, any Pakistani fan, who thought he may have seen it all, has to wonder and ask himself just one question. How low can they sink?

  • M Saqib Ansari on October 16, 2006, 15:28 GMT

    I dont realy understand what the pcb is realy trying to achieve?Blaming your own players realy looks a stupid thing before even asking them about the matter.And i cant understand why at tjis point of time they feel necessary to disclose the matter.The pcb chairman Naseem ashraf has no understanding and should be sacked.Three players who are involved are just coming back from injuries and this might be a factor of positive drug test. Realy a shame to the pcb officilas.

  • Shahid on October 16, 2006, 15:24 GMT

    I cannot accept that PCB is somehow to blame in current doping problem. Living in the US I hear players from all sort of games being guilty o f doping offence and their first responce is similiar to what Shoab Akthar has said and latter on those very players plead guilty and ask for plea bargaing. Ofcourse those players knowingly took the banned substance when the supplier told the players that drug could be detected. Shahid

  • Buddy Shah canada on October 16, 2006, 15:13 GMT

    OH! PCB has done enough damage in the past year or so. I belive its high time President Musharaf hwohappens to be the Patron of cricket atleast bring democracy in Baord. Dectators Like Shaeryar will do what they did and Pakistan cricket will suffer humilation as they are suffering now. Its only and Only the board who have failed and responsible for the current fiasco.. Oval issue, balltempering, captain issue, no constitution in 3 years and now to top it up doping not one but two players... well done MR. SHAHERYAR KHAN!!!

  • Khalil on October 16, 2006, 15:08 GMT

    Might be it is too early to say some thing. But it is hard to control on emotions. Should be utmost punishment to the responsible of the whole scenario, it is matter of our dignity as a nation. This is big a disaster & disappointment of cricket lovers. If it is true our both "zero" (at this moment I don't want to use word hero) should be welcome with tomato & rotten eggs upon arrival in PK. Shame shame !!!!!!

  • Pervez on October 16, 2006, 15:05 GMT

    I agree with you, the PCB's stance in every sitiuation is to blame the other party.

  • Hasan Akhtar, Toronto, Canada on October 16, 2006, 15:03 GMT

    Let's first find out the real facts and then reach the conclusion. Shoaib has denied taking the drugs, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. The BCB is in such a rut, that i think entire board should be kicked out. The BCB is more about POlictic in Cricket and ruining the future of players. Bring Imran Khan as CEO of BCP and you see the result and creditibility that BCP should have. I am discusting with the PCB officials and their quarelling. I will support my counry, my players and coaches, and hope they will perform for their fans.

  • kamran ali on October 16, 2006, 14:54 GMT

    I totally agree! I mean the players are just ordinary human beings like us, some of whom hav'nt even completed their matriculation and thats absolutely fine as doing a masters does not make a good player. I'm totally disgusted on the excuse provided by PCB that the playesr were given this booklet containing the banned drugs and should be aware of them. Well let us be clear that they are there to play cricket and are not studying 'medicine'. It should be the responsibility of the board to ensure that the players are not given any banned drugs during the treatment of their injuries and they should be pinalised rahther than the players if found having some banned drug after treatment of injuries.

  • Amir Faisal on October 16, 2006, 14:47 GMT

    Dear Kamran Sb, Isn't that the culture in Pakistan, refusing to take balme? epsecially in the "Elite" who are governing every institution from sports to Education through "mutual co-operation"? I agree that PCB should share the responsibility especially if it turns out that the duo were given something containing these steroids to enhance their recovery from injuries?

  • ayaz on October 16, 2006, 14:41 GMT

    The board is totally innocent..They dont know anything about cricket, administration or drugs. When u r a person totally blessed with ignorance, u r innocent.

  • Haseeb Ahmed on October 16, 2006, 14:41 GMT

    The PCB must surely be the most dysfunctional, deplorable, and indeed dispicable organization in the history of the game. Never has a single insitution managed to do so much damage, ruin so many players' careers. And I'm, of course, not just referring to this recent incident. As a passionate follower of Pakistan cricker for nearly 20 years, this is not new to me. But with the passing years, the fate of Pakistan cricket seems ever more hopeless. The Imran-era, in every way, now seems the immaculate exception.

  • Ravindra on October 16, 2006, 14:39 GMT

    It is very easy to blame the Pakistan Cricket Board for the problems but I believe most of the fault lies with the concerned individuals. Ignorance cannot be a safe excuse and exit for anything that we as an individual do in our lives. Players like Shoaib and Asif are not only exciting cricketers but they are role models too and in a world of excessive media exposure, they should have been more careful in what they inject in their body, doctors and lawyers opinions notwithstanding. What a terrible loss for the world of cricket would be to lose such talented and exciting prospects. I hope it doesn't happen again.

  • tihami on October 16, 2006, 14:36 GMT

    I think we should wait for the thing to settle down, and lets see what comes after that. We should not blame anyone after recieving one side of the story.Shoaib and asif should have every chance to clarify themselves in front of media or PCB.

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  • tihami on October 16, 2006, 14:36 GMT

    I think we should wait for the thing to settle down, and lets see what comes after that. We should not blame anyone after recieving one side of the story.Shoaib and asif should have every chance to clarify themselves in front of media or PCB.

  • Ravindra on October 16, 2006, 14:39 GMT

    It is very easy to blame the Pakistan Cricket Board for the problems but I believe most of the fault lies with the concerned individuals. Ignorance cannot be a safe excuse and exit for anything that we as an individual do in our lives. Players like Shoaib and Asif are not only exciting cricketers but they are role models too and in a world of excessive media exposure, they should have been more careful in what they inject in their body, doctors and lawyers opinions notwithstanding. What a terrible loss for the world of cricket would be to lose such talented and exciting prospects. I hope it doesn't happen again.

  • Haseeb Ahmed on October 16, 2006, 14:41 GMT

    The PCB must surely be the most dysfunctional, deplorable, and indeed dispicable organization in the history of the game. Never has a single insitution managed to do so much damage, ruin so many players' careers. And I'm, of course, not just referring to this recent incident. As a passionate follower of Pakistan cricker for nearly 20 years, this is not new to me. But with the passing years, the fate of Pakistan cricket seems ever more hopeless. The Imran-era, in every way, now seems the immaculate exception.

  • ayaz on October 16, 2006, 14:41 GMT

    The board is totally innocent..They dont know anything about cricket, administration or drugs. When u r a person totally blessed with ignorance, u r innocent.

  • Amir Faisal on October 16, 2006, 14:47 GMT

    Dear Kamran Sb, Isn't that the culture in Pakistan, refusing to take balme? epsecially in the "Elite" who are governing every institution from sports to Education through "mutual co-operation"? I agree that PCB should share the responsibility especially if it turns out that the duo were given something containing these steroids to enhance their recovery from injuries?

  • kamran ali on October 16, 2006, 14:54 GMT

    I totally agree! I mean the players are just ordinary human beings like us, some of whom hav'nt even completed their matriculation and thats absolutely fine as doing a masters does not make a good player. I'm totally disgusted on the excuse provided by PCB that the playesr were given this booklet containing the banned drugs and should be aware of them. Well let us be clear that they are there to play cricket and are not studying 'medicine'. It should be the responsibility of the board to ensure that the players are not given any banned drugs during the treatment of their injuries and they should be pinalised rahther than the players if found having some banned drug after treatment of injuries.

  • Hasan Akhtar, Toronto, Canada on October 16, 2006, 15:03 GMT

    Let's first find out the real facts and then reach the conclusion. Shoaib has denied taking the drugs, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. The BCB is in such a rut, that i think entire board should be kicked out. The BCB is more about POlictic in Cricket and ruining the future of players. Bring Imran Khan as CEO of BCP and you see the result and creditibility that BCP should have. I am discusting with the PCB officials and their quarelling. I will support my counry, my players and coaches, and hope they will perform for their fans.

  • Pervez on October 16, 2006, 15:05 GMT

    I agree with you, the PCB's stance in every sitiuation is to blame the other party.

  • Khalil on October 16, 2006, 15:08 GMT

    Might be it is too early to say some thing. But it is hard to control on emotions. Should be utmost punishment to the responsible of the whole scenario, it is matter of our dignity as a nation. This is big a disaster & disappointment of cricket lovers. If it is true our both "zero" (at this moment I don't want to use word hero) should be welcome with tomato & rotten eggs upon arrival in PK. Shame shame !!!!!!

  • Buddy Shah canada on October 16, 2006, 15:13 GMT

    OH! PCB has done enough damage in the past year or so. I belive its high time President Musharaf hwohappens to be the Patron of cricket atleast bring democracy in Baord. Dectators Like Shaeryar will do what they did and Pakistan cricket will suffer humilation as they are suffering now. Its only and Only the board who have failed and responsible for the current fiasco.. Oval issue, balltempering, captain issue, no constitution in 3 years and now to top it up doping not one but two players... well done MR. SHAHERYAR KHAN!!!