South Africa news August 12, 2013

Kallis may have to decide on ODI future soon

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Jacques Kallis will be forced to make a firm decision on his ODI future when he meets with Russell Domingo "soon." The national head coach wants South Africa's veteran allrounder to commit to playing "some ODI cricket" before the 2015 World Cup if he still harbours hopes of competing in that tournament. 

Kallis has not played an ODI for South Africa in almost 18 months after Gary Kirsten deemed it "no longer necessary" for him to play in bilateral series because he was too important to South Africa's Test ambitions. Kirsten left the door open for Kallis to make a return in major events but Domingo has indicated he will not follow suit.  

"If Jacques wants to play in the 2015 World Cup, he will have to play some ODI cricket for us along the way," Domingo said. "It will not be fair on other players if it doesn't happen that way." 

Kirsten's rationale was that Kallis' 17-year international career had earned him the right to pick and choose when he wanted to play but it was an approach which backfired. Kallis was recalled to the Twenty20 squad for three matches against England and the World T20 last September on the back of his form for IPL side Kolkata Knight Riders and because of his desire to win an ICC trophy. 

He showed promise with an unbeaten 48 against England but he scored only 24 runs in the tournament itself. His contribution with the ball was more notable with a career-best 4 for 15 against Zimbabwe and a wicket in three of the four other matches South Africa played, although that did not change their fortunes. They crashed out after the Super Eights round. 

Kallis was also due to be part of the squad that played in June's Champions Trophy but he pulled out at the last minute, throwing South Africa's plans into disarray. Two days before the squad was announced, South Africa's convenor of selectors Andrew Hudson confirmed Kallis was part of the plans. He was, at that stage, unaware of Kallis's 11th hour withdrawal because of "personal reasons." That decision was communicated only to Kirsten and not the selection panel, until much later, who then included David Miller instead. 

South Africa were also without Graeme Smith for the tournament, because of injury, and their lack of experience showed. They exited the competition at the semi-final stage after a batting collapse which left Kirsten so shell-shocked he said they "choked" even when it was clear they were simply outplayed. Domingo does not want to find himself in the same boat. 

Instead, he wants a certain group of "about 15 to 18 players" who he will work with ahead of the 2015 World Cup and said he has a "pretty good" idea of who those are. All indications are that the current squad will form the core of Domingo's base. If Kallis wants to be part of that, he will have to begin playing regular one-day cricket soon. Domingo confirmed he has a timeframe in mind and he will let Kallis know when that is. 

It may not be as soon as the five-match ODI series against Pakistan in October and November, but it could well be in the home summer when South Africa will play limited-overs cricket against both India and Australia. South Africa are also scheduled to travel to Zimbabwe and Australia next year and host West Indies before the 2015 World Cup and it is likely Domingo would want Kallis to feature in majority of those matches if he hopes to play in the main event.  

Should Kallis not agree, Domingo does not seem too phased. "As a South African unit, we've got to be able to live without Jacques Kallis," he said. "We've had him around for so long but we've got to realise there will be a day when he will no longer be around." 

Already, Kallis has not been part of the limited-overs squads and even his participation in Tests has been hampered by fitness concerns. He did not play in South Africa's last Test because of a calf injury and has suffered niggles in the last five Test series South Africa have played. His ailments have ranged from a stiff neck which kept him out of the Wellington Test in March 2012 to back spams which prevented him from bowling against England at Leeds and a hamstring problem which affected his batting and left him unable to bowl against Australia in Adelaide in November last year. 

He has been out of action since this year's IPL and has had the better part of six months form his various concerns. Kallis is expected to be back for the two-Test series against Pakistan in the UAE in October.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • on August 12, 2013, 17:38 GMT

    Kallis is, without a doubt, one of the greatest players the world has ever seen. He has been outstanding in both tests and ODIs almost all through his career. It is unfortunate, but true, that the end of his career is near. I agree with Domingo that he should play ODI cricket regularly if he wants to be part of the 2015 World Cup squad. You can't just get into the team with no practice even if you're a legend. He should consider his level of fitness and make a decision. He might need to quit ODI cricket to prolong his Test career, which is the ultimate form of the game. Whatever happens, he has been an exceptional cricketer for SA since 1999 and his achievements are just extraordinary.

  • tickcric on August 12, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    I support Kirsten's decision to give Kallis the right to pick and choose. After all this guy has served his team for some 17 years with incredible success and ought to be managed properly in the twilight phase of his career. Having said that, I was a bit surprised by the manner he pulled out of CT. His abrupt decision should have hurt South Africa's preparation for the tournament. I think as the head coach Domingo is right in addressing this issue.

  • on August 12, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    With things as such, it seems to be the end of world, atleast in ODIs for the Legend. IMO, Team SA should concentrate on 2015 world cup without King Kallis for he is of utmost importance to the test squad.

  • siddhartha87 on August 12, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    Kallis deserves to win a world cup as Tendulkar did. He is definitely the best test batsman of last 10 years.He achieved everything in test cricket. Won test series against all nations both home and abroad.This something that even Lara and Tendulkar could not achieve. Kudos to this bonafide legend.

  • on August 18, 2013, 23:26 GMT

    Kallis has previously said that he enjoys (and excels) in all three formats. He has never said much less indicated that he either doesn't want to play or is 'retired' from ODIs. Kirsten applied that restriction on him not the other way round.!! The mere fact that Domingo has mentioned him suggests that he knows SA need his experience AND that currently there is no obvious replacement for him. However he, CSA, and Kallis need to be pragmatic and realise that at nearly 38 his schedule needs to be managed to ultimately extend his test career where he is most valued and effective. Comments about his selfishness, arrogance, and subsequent withdrawal of the CT are very wide of the mark. He chose & explained his reasons for not going at the end of a poor IPL (for him) & because of his lack of preparation for the longer format he felt it 'just wouldn't be right to be selected' Sounds very much like a team guy to me or was he just thinking of himself again..!!

  • DeckChairand6pack on August 14, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    There's no place for sentimentality in top class sport. In the cold light of day, and surveying it pragmatically, the great man will have to go...

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    (3/3) ***CONTD***

    @Greatest_Game: My dear GG, not only have you given mismatched stats but your stats are also wrong.

    His debut onwards, incl Kallis, SA's record --- P316-W205-L97 & W/L Ratio is 2.11. His debut onwards, exc Kallis, SA's record --- P102-W65-L34 & W/L Ratio is 1.91.

    You had said it is 1.397 which is not the same as 1.91. Is it?

    No doubt 1.91 < 2.11 but not by much. When a settled team loses one player, the balance does get affected. In case of Kallis, SA do not miss his batting but what hurts them is finding slot for one extra player cos Kallis is an AR. This proves my point that Kallis is valuable as an AR but not as a pure batsman or bowler. A bit like Watson these days.

    Sans Kallis SA score more runs at better SR (35.93@5.06 vs 36.31@5.25) but concede more runs (26.45@4.64 vs 27.97@4.82). This proves my point that SA don't miss the batting of Kallis but the new bowler spoils it for them.

    QED

    I always talk on facts my dear. :-)

    ***EoT***

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    (2/3) ***CONTD***

    @Greatest_Game: Dear GG, your defense for the low SR of Kallis is very weak. SRT has played for far far longer than Kallis and has a much much superior SR than Kallis. In fact, SRT's SR was even better in 90s when according to you SRs were low. As per you, Kallis' best two year SR is 83+, SRT's CAREER SR is 86+, OMG !!!

    IPL is 6 yrs old btw, not too small a time period. In IPL 2013, Kallis's SR was <100. That's a fact. Tests are over 125 yrs old, what is his SR in Tests? ~45. Wow.

    Kallis has the ability to get runs but gives no real impetus. Some ppl have filled their buckets with runs after several great bowlers retired in 00s. Barring Steyn who is a Saffer, there isn't anyone else of that class.

    Ofc "How many runs scored" is imp but "how are they scored" also matters in most cases. This is the heel of Kallis that makes him look like Achilles.

    CRICINFO: Pls publish this time.

    ***TBC***

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    (1/3)

    @Greatest_Game: My dear, you are using adjectives randomly for my comment.

    My comment is ill-informed? Pls check again, all stats I gave are absolutely correct (I gave 3 stats btw). My comment is irrelevant? This article is about Kallis and my comment is also about Kallis. My comment is demeaning? Did I not say he is a great AR?

    Actually, the stats you gave are mismatched.

    A better W/L ratio doesn't mean Kallis's BATTING or BOWLING helps. It only means SA have a better balance. Perhaps it is the extra vacany that helps SA win. Did you look into that?

    Kallis' avg in ODIs may be good but SR is ~72, that is not even avg but way below avg. SA would score <220 runs at that SR, is that good for you?

    Is Kallis (one of) all time greatest All-Rounders? Yes definitely. But not as a pure batsman and def not as a bowler.

    CRICINFO: Pls publish this time.

    ***TBC***

  • on August 14, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Kallis is undoubtedly as special a player as there has ever been. But to be under ANY illusion that you're indespensible is absolutely wrong - hard to believe that someone with Kirsten's experience in the game effectively gave him free reign to make himself available or not. Arrogance in the extreme.

  • on August 12, 2013, 17:38 GMT

    Kallis is, without a doubt, one of the greatest players the world has ever seen. He has been outstanding in both tests and ODIs almost all through his career. It is unfortunate, but true, that the end of his career is near. I agree with Domingo that he should play ODI cricket regularly if he wants to be part of the 2015 World Cup squad. You can't just get into the team with no practice even if you're a legend. He should consider his level of fitness and make a decision. He might need to quit ODI cricket to prolong his Test career, which is the ultimate form of the game. Whatever happens, he has been an exceptional cricketer for SA since 1999 and his achievements are just extraordinary.

  • tickcric on August 12, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    I support Kirsten's decision to give Kallis the right to pick and choose. After all this guy has served his team for some 17 years with incredible success and ought to be managed properly in the twilight phase of his career. Having said that, I was a bit surprised by the manner he pulled out of CT. His abrupt decision should have hurt South Africa's preparation for the tournament. I think as the head coach Domingo is right in addressing this issue.

  • on August 12, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    With things as such, it seems to be the end of world, atleast in ODIs for the Legend. IMO, Team SA should concentrate on 2015 world cup without King Kallis for he is of utmost importance to the test squad.

  • siddhartha87 on August 12, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    Kallis deserves to win a world cup as Tendulkar did. He is definitely the best test batsman of last 10 years.He achieved everything in test cricket. Won test series against all nations both home and abroad.This something that even Lara and Tendulkar could not achieve. Kudos to this bonafide legend.

  • on August 18, 2013, 23:26 GMT

    Kallis has previously said that he enjoys (and excels) in all three formats. He has never said much less indicated that he either doesn't want to play or is 'retired' from ODIs. Kirsten applied that restriction on him not the other way round.!! The mere fact that Domingo has mentioned him suggests that he knows SA need his experience AND that currently there is no obvious replacement for him. However he, CSA, and Kallis need to be pragmatic and realise that at nearly 38 his schedule needs to be managed to ultimately extend his test career where he is most valued and effective. Comments about his selfishness, arrogance, and subsequent withdrawal of the CT are very wide of the mark. He chose & explained his reasons for not going at the end of a poor IPL (for him) & because of his lack of preparation for the longer format he felt it 'just wouldn't be right to be selected' Sounds very much like a team guy to me or was he just thinking of himself again..!!

  • DeckChairand6pack on August 14, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    There's no place for sentimentality in top class sport. In the cold light of day, and surveying it pragmatically, the great man will have to go...

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    (3/3) ***CONTD***

    @Greatest_Game: My dear GG, not only have you given mismatched stats but your stats are also wrong.

    His debut onwards, incl Kallis, SA's record --- P316-W205-L97 & W/L Ratio is 2.11. His debut onwards, exc Kallis, SA's record --- P102-W65-L34 & W/L Ratio is 1.91.

    You had said it is 1.397 which is not the same as 1.91. Is it?

    No doubt 1.91 < 2.11 but not by much. When a settled team loses one player, the balance does get affected. In case of Kallis, SA do not miss his batting but what hurts them is finding slot for one extra player cos Kallis is an AR. This proves my point that Kallis is valuable as an AR but not as a pure batsman or bowler. A bit like Watson these days.

    Sans Kallis SA score more runs at better SR (35.93@5.06 vs 36.31@5.25) but concede more runs (26.45@4.64 vs 27.97@4.82). This proves my point that SA don't miss the batting of Kallis but the new bowler spoils it for them.

    QED

    I always talk on facts my dear. :-)

    ***EoT***

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    (2/3) ***CONTD***

    @Greatest_Game: Dear GG, your defense for the low SR of Kallis is very weak. SRT has played for far far longer than Kallis and has a much much superior SR than Kallis. In fact, SRT's SR was even better in 90s when according to you SRs were low. As per you, Kallis' best two year SR is 83+, SRT's CAREER SR is 86+, OMG !!!

    IPL is 6 yrs old btw, not too small a time period. In IPL 2013, Kallis's SR was <100. That's a fact. Tests are over 125 yrs old, what is his SR in Tests? ~45. Wow.

    Kallis has the ability to get runs but gives no real impetus. Some ppl have filled their buckets with runs after several great bowlers retired in 00s. Barring Steyn who is a Saffer, there isn't anyone else of that class.

    Ofc "How many runs scored" is imp but "how are they scored" also matters in most cases. This is the heel of Kallis that makes him look like Achilles.

    CRICINFO: Pls publish this time.

    ***TBC***

  • Harmony111 on August 14, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    (1/3)

    @Greatest_Game: My dear, you are using adjectives randomly for my comment.

    My comment is ill-informed? Pls check again, all stats I gave are absolutely correct (I gave 3 stats btw). My comment is irrelevant? This article is about Kallis and my comment is also about Kallis. My comment is demeaning? Did I not say he is a great AR?

    Actually, the stats you gave are mismatched.

    A better W/L ratio doesn't mean Kallis's BATTING or BOWLING helps. It only means SA have a better balance. Perhaps it is the extra vacany that helps SA win. Did you look into that?

    Kallis' avg in ODIs may be good but SR is ~72, that is not even avg but way below avg. SA would score <220 runs at that SR, is that good for you?

    Is Kallis (one of) all time greatest All-Rounders? Yes definitely. But not as a pure batsman and def not as a bowler.

    CRICINFO: Pls publish this time.

    ***TBC***

  • on August 14, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Kallis is undoubtedly as special a player as there has ever been. But to be under ANY illusion that you're indespensible is absolutely wrong - hard to believe that someone with Kirsten's experience in the game effectively gave him free reign to make himself available or not. Arrogance in the extreme.

  • Mike_Tyson on August 14, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    @Grant King. Well that is exactly my point. No players achievements should be diminished because they had other greats around them. This is the same wheather its Sachin, Kallis or anyone else. It just seems an old tune when all you hear is that Sachin had class batsman around him so maybe things were easier. My point was that its been thw same for all and some even had great bowlers to back them up. I definitely don't agree with the fact that Sachin carried a billion people's hopes as I'm pretty sure the whole SC population doesn't watch cricket. I just think we should enjoy each player or what they bring to the game and stop this nonsense of comparing players all the time.It just gets boring

  • on August 14, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    Mike yes there were batsmen around all the greats does that mean there achievements count less than that of Sachin. When Sachin goes in to bat he wants to score runs for India and the others for their countries. every time I hear about Sachin carrying a billion hopes on him. Do you honestly belief he is thinking of a billion people. He is thinking how he can score and survive to best represent his team. Just like the other players. You make it seem as if Sachin was playing alone. catching balls and bowling and batting and keeping. The reason for India not being successful is their inability to be consistent outside the sub continent. PS Test cricket as ODI's is all played on batsmen's wickets. Kallis plays his cricket in the place where batsmen struggle the most. Tendulkar in India where players like Sehwag can hit through the line and with little skill. Andrew Hudson???? I bet there is a lot of Indian batsmen with better records than him. He became a maggi man towards the end.

  • Mike_Tyson on August 14, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    @Prabhakar Muthukrishnan and Grant King. Your arguments are more old and tired than my great grandma, please change the record. Agreed Sachin had other fine batsman to help him, but are you honestly saying that except for Amla and de Villiers, Kallis has had none? How about Cullinan, Kirsten, Gibbs, Hudson, Smith, Cronje and there have been a few more. They are all batsman who had fine records and most would get into any side in the world. Maybe you guys have only been watching cricket the last few years which is why you are not aware of this. Also one thing Kallis had in his favour is the fine bowlers SA have always had, Donald, Pollock, Schultz for a while was one of the nastiest around, Ntini, Steyn, Morkel, Phillander. Care to mention some world class Indian bowlers?? Same goes for one of the other great batsman, Lara. He also had some of the greatest fast bowlers in his side and very good/great batsman. Hooper, Chanderpaul, Adams, Gayle, Sarwan, even the great Haynes for a contd..

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 14, 2013, 9:07 GMT

    Lets end this debate quickly between Sachin and Kallis.

    Imagine you are at school again and 22 players are standing in a group. You are one of the two captains picked from this group of players. As a captain you have to pick and choose your team against the other captain. There are 20 players in the group left to choose from. Sachin and Kallis are in this group and can be picked. Fate smiles on you and you get to pick first. Who do you choose? The player with 56 average, 300 test wickets and 200 catches (who batted on the toughest pitches with no batting support until 3 yrs ago) or the player with 53 average....(who played on flat tracks and supported by many other classy players - Dravid, VVS, Sehwag, etc)

    Case closed. Kallis is the greatest Cricketer to have every lived.

  • on August 14, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    Prabhakar Muthukrishnan thank you for your insight in your post. That's exactly what most Indians forget when posting about SRT. Anyway we have to appreciate all the greats for what they gave to us as cricket fans. Kallis has been the backbone of SA batting and only got a break when Amla, smith, de Villiers became consistent and successful. If I had to choose somebody to bat for my life Kallis would be the nominated one.

  • on August 13, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    The cultures may differ but the fact remains that stars have always shone when they are in their comfort zone. A similar case is that of Sachin Tendulkar. After that innings of 200* in Gwalior on 24.02.2010 he did not play any ODI cricket until a series before WC 2011. He was shaky in South Africa in early 2011 but emerged as highest run getter for India in WC. These players have played too much cricket to take long time time to regain touch. In that case, there is no reason to dsibelieve that Kallis will soon find his touch when re returns to ODI folds. Also, the stature that he carries works in his favour and there is no possibility of any disharmony in the team as well.

  • AKS286 on August 13, 2013, 15:50 GMT

    The living legend is now on the final stage of career, BUT its all about fitness and performance not age. Kallis future must be decided by him and Kirsten because if he will with the team then must continue till WC 2015. The recent performance by SA team says "Definitely Needed in the team".

  • Robster1 on August 13, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    Good common sense from Domingo. If he wants to play at the next World Cup then Kallis needs to at least play in some bilateral series. And Smith should be reinstated as ODI skipper through to the World Cup.

  • CricketChat on August 13, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    Seems like Kallis's body is not holding up. He was struggling while running between wkts and bowling in this year's IPL. By any standards, he has achieved everything an all rounder could. It would be a while anyone can come close to his performances. He should gracefully retire and savor his achievements.

  • on August 13, 2013, 12:52 GMT

    Hope Cricinfo features this comment. I can see a lot of comments comparing Sachin with Kallis. However emotionally we Indians may be attached to Sachin, Kallis is without doubt a greater cricketer than him. Secondly a lot of is made of the 'burden' that Sachin carried. Remember, Sachin after about 6 years into his career got another batsman in his team who scored almost the same number of runs as him while they played together ( Rahul Dravid). Plus there were the likes of VVS, Sehwag and Sourav Ganguly (starting 1996 onwards). How could he have 'shouldered' a burden? Does it mean that the rest were useless? Plus another fact is that during the initial 6 years (1989-90-96) Mohd Azharuddin scored equal no of runs as Sachin.Azhar scored around 15 test hundreds between 1990-99.And I am talking about test cricket here. Real cricket not useless ODIs on flat tracks.

  • Mike_Tyson on August 13, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    I never understand why an article on a leading batsman always turns into a debate about that batsman v Sachin. Why can't people appreciate players as individuals rather than having to argue over who's better. I have no particular interest on who's the best now or who's the best ever. I would rather prefer watching these greats play as they don't have much longer left. I don't know if it is just Indian fans who turn every debate into a Sachin vs the rest but I'm sure the great man himself wouldn't this.

  • on August 13, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Kallis is an outstanding player in world cricket. However, players are picked for various tournaments on current form,fitness and not past records. Therefore, it will be prudent for Kallis to play in the majority of matches if he is still interested in playing for SA who have had a mediocre performance in the recent past.

  • Ali_Chaudhary on August 13, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    He can miss meaningless bilateral serieses but has to play global tournaments and vs tough oppsitions. He opted out vs SL and Pak home series. This was good but not playing Champions Trophy and away series vs SL isnt good.

  • pull_shot on August 13, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    If its other than family reasons he should play atleast 2015 WC otherwise cricket will loose its shine as 10dulkar,dravid,pointing,hussey,murali r already retired he is d only legend playing.

  • zxaar on August 13, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    "If you really want to do a statistical analysis, you have to also take into account that the majority of Tendulkar's runs have been scored in India," ------------ May be you need to check again, Tendulkar is no Kallis that averages 30 odd in England and 65 in India, Tendulkar has very consistent overseas performance.

  • on August 13, 2013, 6:49 GMT

    I think every one forgot the basic thing here, Kallis born and broght up in SA unlike Sachin. When a batsman can play on such a bouncy tracks they can easily adjusted to any kind of pitches except spin pitches. Thats the reason of his success in other countries with bouncy pitches except in Eng and Srilanka(Spin tracks). Yes, all of you are correct he is a greatest ever bcos of his all round ability but can't be compared with Sachin. Sachin is unique batsman in the world who always carries lots of pressure whenever he gets bat and doesn't matter whether it is in tests or ODIs. Kallis almost all the time either had very good opening stand by the time he is at the crease or opposition had put some par scores bcos of SA's bowling unit, but for Sachin he has to start the innings atleast in the away matches and I think I need not give any explanation about indian bowling unit in away matches which really had put huge pressure on Sachin & Dravid to not loose the match atleast.

  • Nuxxy on August 13, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    @zxaar: If you really want to do a statistical analysis, you have to also take into account that the majority of Tendulkar's runs have been scored in India, statistically the easiest place to bat, whereas Kallis has scored the majority of his runs in South Africa, statistically the most difficult place to bat.

  • highveldhillbilly on August 13, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    @zxaar - I see you neglected the small matter of just under 300 test wickets and 300 ODI wickets. It's a debate as to who's the better batsmen between SRT and Kallis (and as an SA fan I'm happy to say that I lean towards SRT) but overall value as a cricketer, I maintain Kallis.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 13, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    Behold. The Greatest cricketer to ever play the game. Almost 300 Test wickets, 200 catches and an average that is better than the great Sachin himself.

    All Hail King Kallis, all hail. Life is going to be hell without him. I think he still has 2 years of Test cricket in him. He is still scoring runs and still bowls at 140 km/h.

  • on August 13, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    One way Kallis could play in the 2014 world cup would be to reduce his workload. He can become more of a batsman and cut down on bowling. In ODIs he should not bowl more than 5 overs. Similarly, in test matches too he should not be bowling more than 5--8 overs in a day. This will help him reduce strain on his heavy body and prolong both his ODI and test careers.

  • cric_leo on August 13, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    last one of the warriors of an extraordinary generation. SA will never find someone like him. the fighting spirit which he possessed (in fact they all had - Donald, cronje, Kirsten, cullinan, simcox) was unbelievable. we are coming an end of an era which played by great legends.

  • Chetan007 on August 13, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    De Villiers need to get down either as a captain or wicketkeeper. Selectors needed to pick a good allrounder in place of Kallis. Kallis is getting old. If he wants to continue as a test batsman, let it be. But if he wants to be a part of 2015 WC than he needs to play regular as if not it will hamper his fitness. It would be much better if someone else will be given an extended run as an allrounder in the team. SA team needed an anchor at the start of the inning as we had seen lack of this in their recent series.

  • on August 13, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    he is a legend sad to see him end like this hope he plays till 2015....

  • landl47 on August 13, 2013, 1:42 GMT

    Kallis is one of the true greats of the game. He'll be a legend forever. However, unless he has discovered an anti-aging elixir, he's running out of time. He'll be 38 in October, 39 by the time of the World Cup. He's a big, heavy guy, which puts strain on his joints and muscles. He's breaking down more and more often.

    Domingo is right. Even Jacques has to show he's worth his place- not 5 or 10 years ago, but now and in 2015. He can't do that unless he plays.

    Like Tendulkar, Jacques should give himself a reality check.

  • jb633 on August 12, 2013, 22:41 GMT

    @Jadejafan, you must be the actual Ravindra Jadeja because nobody but him would make such a comment. Jadeja better than Kallis. Glad I at least got one laugh today.

  • santhoo24 on August 12, 2013, 22:12 GMT

    while Kallis is one of the all time greats to ever play the game, no one is bigger than the game itself. If Kallis cherry-picks the ODI series he wants to be a part of, it sends a bad message to upcoming players. After all Kallis has to hang his boots one day. Better to do it now and groom some young player. In any case, salute to one of the all-time greats for his magnificent contribution to the game.

  • Greatest_Game on August 12, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    @ Harmony111. As expected, your post about Kallis is ill informed, irrelevant, & demeaning, with NO meaningful stats. IPL vs a 17-year international career: that's pathetic.

    You say "his batting (is not) helpful ... in ODIs." South Africa's ODI win/loss ratio WITH Kallis is 2.113. Without him its 1.397. You say "he isn't much good in the ODI format esp as a batsman." 11 498 runs @ 45.26 say otherwise! SRT's ave - 44.83. You list his SR as low 70s. ODI SRs were much lower 17 years ago: from 96 to 06 his SR was 70.43. From '06 to now it is 79.4. Last 2 years it is 83.52.

    You say in tests he is an "allrounder only, not a pure batsman." His test ave is 56.45, SRT's is 53.86. Kallis has 44 centuries (2nd most) @ 1 per 6.227 inngs. SRT's 51 came at 1 per 6.411. JK scores more tons per inngs than SRT! He will soon pass Dravid & Ponting in total runs. If Kallis is not a pure test batsman, then nor is Tendulkar!

    You deliberately demean an All Time Great with no purpose but to offend. Why?

  • on August 12, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Kallis is the zeus of cricket, and wish him all the best to lead the S.A team to lift the maiden world cup 2014

  • Surajrises on August 12, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    Domingo is talking as if South Africa are doing wonders with their current ODI team. We just saw them getting humiliated by Sri Lanka and Kallis will be a part of the 2015 World Cup. Stop acting like a fool because he bowls those 10 good overs and he still would be the fittest Cricketer in that team during the 2015 World Cup.

  • Jadejafan on August 12, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    World Class player but his bowling isn't nothing special. Took a lot of wickets because of shear number of games he has played. There is a massive difference between his batting and bowling. Jadeja is better right now today.

  • Greatest_Game on August 12, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    Jacques Kallis played 320 ODIs for South Africa. In 307 inngs he scored 11498 runs, & in 280 inngs took 270 wickets. MASSIVE. Kallis was the anchor, allowing other players to flourish. In the 1st Champions Trophy, SA played just 3 games. JK was MoM twice & Player of the Tournament. His "Century & 5-for" double (113* & 5/30) was NEVER repeated by anyone - his record alone! Coincidentally, that's the ONLY ICC Cup SA ever won.

    In April 2013, SA's ODI W/L ratio was 1.818. With Kallis playing it is 2.113; without him, 1.397. When Smith left the ODI captaincy in 2011, SA's W/L was 1.85. Since AB took over it is HALF that - 0.94.

    SA & Aus have the best ever ODI stats - almost identical. For 15 years Kallis helped build a winning team. Then de Villiers & Kirsten destroyed it - those stats are irrefutable. One of the two greatest cricketers ever, how could he NOT object to SA's ODI selection/captaincy debacle? Did they ever listen? No - they're losers now? It must make him sick.

  • on August 12, 2013, 16:07 GMT

    Jacques kallis is one of the greatest all-rounders I have seen in the game of cricket, since I have started watching cricket.......he should definitely end up on a high note.....not like just being out of action....... I wish best of luck to him for his future.....!!!

  • Harmony111 on August 12, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    With due respect to Kallis, he isn't much good in the ODI format esp as a batsman. With a SR of low 70s, he eats up too many deliveries and stifles the innings. A fit example is the SA-Aus league match in WC07 where SA might have won the match but for the slow knock Kallis played where he was oblivious of the team's need. He has done similarly in the IPL too. In IPL2013 his SR was <100 which is unacceptable. He has scored loads of runs in ODI but when you play so many matches you are bound to score some runs. I'd say SA would be better of off him. His bowling has fallen apart a lot in the last few years and his batting has never quite been helpful for his team in ODIs/T20s. He is a great all rounder but mainly in tests and even then as an allrounder only, not as a pure batsman or as a pure bowler.

    One final thing, it was quite selfish to see Kallis playing the IPL and not playing the CT2013. That would have rankled many a SA fans. It rankled me for sure.

  • Batmanindallas on August 12, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    I am not sure how this coaches without pedigree to back them up can question people like Kallis?? Buchanan, Mickey etc are good at certain level but to lead a national team of players with more repute than them...not sure if that is the right approach

  • on August 12, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    Kallis should stop playing IPL until he is retired. If he doesnt play ODI to preserve his test fitness. why does he plays IPL?? Currently his experience is badly needed in ODI team, i hope he will play some ODI's and be regular in tests.

  • on August 12, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    With or without the great Kallis, SA will not win the World Cup 2014. It makes no difference, since with the brand of cricket they play, they will always fall short of the final hurdles. You need some flair to win world cups, which sadly SA lacks. Except for Ab de villiers and Hashim Amla no one in the team has flair. Method cricket can only take you so far- till the semis or quarters may be. It will not win you world cups. Only flair will. It has been proven by West Indies, India, Pakistan, Australia, and Sri Lanka- all teams with men with flair. England too is a bit like SA at least till the likes of KP and Ian Bell have lent an air of flair.

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    Apparently, greatness in ODI cricket is marked by me if someone gets 20 ODI Tons in a lifetime with a good conversion rate. Leave Sachin alone, Ponting & Jayasuriya are two TRUE ODI batting Gods although the latter was a bit inconsistent at times. Kumar Sangakkara is set to register his name as the world's greatest wicket-keeper batsman in ODIs ( not disrespecting MSD or Gilchrist in any way ) and for that he will get 20 or more hundreds in career. Herschelle Gibbs & Chris Gayle batted supremely at the top and they are the two players that every "Best of..." teams must feature. Sourav Chandidas Ganguly was at his peak from August 1997 to April 2003, a period which fetched him 22 hundreds! To permanently make a name in the shorter format, Kallis needs to gear up his pads and get a crack of 18 months before he finally bids adieu to the cricketing fraternity. Meanwhile, two guys, Virat Kohli & Hashim Amla are smiling just behind you....you must make sure they express no cynicism. Amen.

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    As much as I don't want to admit it, Kallis the Legend, will eventually not be part of the Protea setup in any format. Personally I think he should concentrate on Tests for SA and play IPL. Leave the 50 over stuff for some others! Kudo's Russel, great to see you thinking ahead!

  • Jalz007 on August 12, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    Hope Kallis will be around for another year or two, depending on his fitness. He is one of the finest all-rounders around in contemporary cricket...Hope to see him finish off on a high!!!All the very best to him.

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:41 GMT

    Kallis is easily the greatest allrounder Cricket has produced...with due respects to Sir Gary Sobers Kallis's record proves itself...

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    greatest selfish player

  • CricketMaan on August 12, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    At 39, its never easy to compete and win a WC, but SRT did that. Unless JQ has lost the motivation to lift a WC, he should play coz of his immense value that he brings to the team

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    I don't want to believe it, but this seems the start of the end of one of the greatest players of all times. Jacques Kallis is one of those players, alongside Rahul Dravid and Mike Hussey, that no one, absolutely no one, can dislike. You have been an invaluable treasure to this sport and these last few events will do nothing to tarnish your memory! I salute to you.

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    I don't want to believe it, but this seems the start of the end of one of the greatest players of all times. Jacques Kallis is one of those players, alongside Rahul Dravid and Mike Hussey, that no one, absolutely no one, can dislike. You have been an invaluable treasure to this sport and these last few events will do nothing to tarnish your memory! I salute to you.

  • CricketMaan on August 12, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    At 39, its never easy to compete and win a WC, but SRT did that. Unless JQ has lost the motivation to lift a WC, he should play coz of his immense value that he brings to the team

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    greatest selfish player

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:41 GMT

    Kallis is easily the greatest allrounder Cricket has produced...with due respects to Sir Gary Sobers Kallis's record proves itself...

  • Jalz007 on August 12, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    Hope Kallis will be around for another year or two, depending on his fitness. He is one of the finest all-rounders around in contemporary cricket...Hope to see him finish off on a high!!!All the very best to him.

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    As much as I don't want to admit it, Kallis the Legend, will eventually not be part of the Protea setup in any format. Personally I think he should concentrate on Tests for SA and play IPL. Leave the 50 over stuff for some others! Kudo's Russel, great to see you thinking ahead!

  • on August 12, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    Apparently, greatness in ODI cricket is marked by me if someone gets 20 ODI Tons in a lifetime with a good conversion rate. Leave Sachin alone, Ponting & Jayasuriya are two TRUE ODI batting Gods although the latter was a bit inconsistent at times. Kumar Sangakkara is set to register his name as the world's greatest wicket-keeper batsman in ODIs ( not disrespecting MSD or Gilchrist in any way ) and for that he will get 20 or more hundreds in career. Herschelle Gibbs & Chris Gayle batted supremely at the top and they are the two players that every "Best of..." teams must feature. Sourav Chandidas Ganguly was at his peak from August 1997 to April 2003, a period which fetched him 22 hundreds! To permanently make a name in the shorter format, Kallis needs to gear up his pads and get a crack of 18 months before he finally bids adieu to the cricketing fraternity. Meanwhile, two guys, Virat Kohli & Hashim Amla are smiling just behind you....you must make sure they express no cynicism. Amen.

  • on August 12, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    With or without the great Kallis, SA will not win the World Cup 2014. It makes no difference, since with the brand of cricket they play, they will always fall short of the final hurdles. You need some flair to win world cups, which sadly SA lacks. Except for Ab de villiers and Hashim Amla no one in the team has flair. Method cricket can only take you so far- till the semis or quarters may be. It will not win you world cups. Only flair will. It has been proven by West Indies, India, Pakistan, Australia, and Sri Lanka- all teams with men with flair. England too is a bit like SA at least till the likes of KP and Ian Bell have lent an air of flair.

  • on August 12, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    Kallis should stop playing IPL until he is retired. If he doesnt play ODI to preserve his test fitness. why does he plays IPL?? Currently his experience is badly needed in ODI team, i hope he will play some ODI's and be regular in tests.

  • Batmanindallas on August 12, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    I am not sure how this coaches without pedigree to back them up can question people like Kallis?? Buchanan, Mickey etc are good at certain level but to lead a national team of players with more repute than them...not sure if that is the right approach