Nottinghamshire v Somerset, Trent Bridge, 4th day September 27, 2013

Buttler confirms Somerset departure

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Somerset 372 (Hildreth 161, Compton 87, Gurney 5-81) and 101 for 1 (Jones 55*) drew with Nottinghamshire 406 (Hussey 125, Lumb 107, Thomas 4-103) and 298 (Mullaney 59, Taylor 55, Read 52*, Trego 4-69)
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Somerset may have avoided relegation, but they have been unable to retain the services of their outstanding young England wicketkeeper batsman Jos Buttler.

Buttler, a 23-year-old who has developed through the club's youth system, confirmed hours after the season finished the news that many Somerset supporters had long feared: he is to leave the club to pursue opportunities elsewhere. It is highly likely to be confirmed within days that he will join Lancashire, with an announcement expected on Wednesday.

Buttler had little realistic choice. With his opportunities of keeping wicket at Somerset blocked by Craig Kieswetter, himself a young man with genuine international aspirations, he had to decide whether to concentrate on a future as a specialist batsman or leave the club.

"Both Jos and the club have worked extremely hard over the last few months to find a solution, which satisfies Jos's understandable desire to have more time behind the stumps in order to advance his international career," Somerset's chief executive, Guy Lavender, said. "I would like to make it clear that he has behaved impeccably during this difficult process.

"However the Club, on a matter of principle and pragmatism, feels unable to offer a guarantee to Jos - or any other player - of selection in their preferred role. Such a situation would be unfair on team-mates as well as those selecting the side. We thank Jos for all he has done for the club and wish him well in the future."

Buttler said he was "very sad to be leaving Somerset" but needed to pursue opportunities that would help his development as a wicketkeeper. Buttler is currently the man in possession of the gloves for England in both limited-overs formats.

"I am immensely grateful for all the help and support that everyone at Somerset has given me which has shaped the player and person I am today," he said. "I would like to wish the club the best of luck for the future."

In a perfect world, Buttler's last game for Somerset might have ended in a more exciting fashion. The sun had helped bring a decent crowd to Trent Bridge and there might, with some imagination, have been a target set of around 300 in 60 overs. But both sides were wearied by recent struggles and no such conversation took place. Instead the season ebbed, in Marcus Trescothick's words to "a quiet draw".

It says much for the strength of promotion and relegation that it took until the last day of the season to endure a meaningless day of cricket. In the bad, old days, they were far less unusual.

Trescothick scotched any suggestion that he may now retire. His second-innings dismissal - pulling a short ball to midwicket to give Brett Hutton a memorable maiden first-class victim - meant he had gone through the season without a first-class century for the first time since 1998.

"I'm very glad this season is over," he said. "But nothing has changed. I still want to play until I'm 40."

He wants to continue as captain, too. Talk from inside the club suggests that Kieswetter will be appointed, in at least one format, ahead of next season, but if that is the plan, nobody has told Trescothick.

"I want to continue as captain," he said. "It's out of my hands what the club decide, but I want to carry on.

"It's been a disappointing year. We've been very poor and very inconsistent in Championship cricket. We've let ourselves down in comparison with what we've done in previous years. We've not scored the volume of runs or bowled as well as we can. In the end, we've held on by the skin of our teeth."

He compared Dave Nosworthy, the director of cricket who arrived at the start of the season, to David Moyes - Sir Alex Ferguson's successor at Manchster United FC - and admitted the club were in "a transitional period".

"There's bound to be a bit of change," he said. "You've seen it with David Moyes. It's people picking up new things, running in different directions. Eventually that will gel together."

Trescothick did have praise for some of the younger players, though. He agreed Jamie Overton was the most promising fast bowler Somerset had possessed since Andy Caddick - maybe even the best since Sir Ian Botham - and suggested he had the raw talent to be "as good as Allan Donald".

"I've seen and played against the best," Trescothick said. "And he has the calibre and quality to be that good. The world is his oyster, really. If you could mould fast bowlers, you would end up with Jamie Overton. He has all the attributes to be a great fast bowler. Yes, he has the raw potential to turn himself into someone like Allan Donald."

Mick Newell, the Nottinghamshire director of cricket, also admitted his team's Championship season had been disappointing. Indeed, Newell told the BBC that it was "fairly obvious" to him after just "two or three games" that Notts weren't good enough to win the Championship. While he did not communicate those views to the side, he did decide early on to prioritise the limited-overs formats.

"We have lost a lot of wicket-takers and experience in recent years," Newell said. "The likes of Mark Ealham, Greg Smith and Darren Pattinson. We may well look at bringing in a bowler as overseas player next year. Luke Fletcher and Harry Gurney have ended up carrying the bowling attack. I think if we could bring in a bit more quality and get Andre Adams fit and Ajmal Shahzad producing a little bit more of what he should be doing then we'd maybe have five or six seamers who can get us a little bit higher up the league."

There was some good news for Notts, though. Chris Read, a beacon of excellence at Trent Bridge for so long, confirmed that he would remain with the club despite now being out of contract. The half-century he scored on the final day here was only the second of, by his lofty standards, a disappointing season with the bat. But he showed in the YB40 final what a fine batsman he remains and there are few keepers anywhere in the world who can better his glove work.

It remains to be seen whether he retains the captaincy. Michael Lumb may well take over, in one format at least, depending on how his discussions with the club about his availability to play in the IPL progress.

Newell stands by his decision to prevent his players - particular Alex Hales, who Newell said could receive a "life-changing" sum of money by appearing - participating in the IPL this year, but accepted there had been negative repercussions. He also admitted he may take a different view next year.

"I don't regret that decision," he said. "But it's not set in stone. Part of Alex Hales' troubles [he was dropped from the Championship side due to poor form] may have been due to that decision and his own disappointment."

Another disappointed man was Samit Patel. He went into the last session of the season requiring the wicket of one top-six batsman to finish as the FTI Most Valuable Player of the Year and win a £10,000 cheque. He was unable to do so, however, leaving Worcestershire's Moeen Ali as the victor.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • somerset_rover on September 30, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    So it is official - Jos is going to Lancashire. A sad day for Somerset but good luck Jos.

  • somerset_rover on September 30, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    An excellent and perceptive summary Juiceoftheapple. Like it or not Somerset are regarded (by people that matter) as a second rate cricketing County and until we can retain such talents as Buttler then we will do well shake off that label. Fridays announcement has dealt a significant blow to us.

  • Juiceoftheapple on September 29, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    Optic I'm sorry that you feel that I am selfish bemoaning that one of the most talented young Somerset players of the last 50 years has left the club, and perhaps you missed the fact I said that I'm fed up with everyone, not just Enlgand for their part with Giles chipping away at Jos. I'm fed up Craig Overton and Adam Dibble arent in the side due to overseas born players, I'm fed up with Brian Rose being at Glamorgan, I'm fed up we dont have proper coaches, I'm fed up the situation with Craig couldnt be resolved to everyones absolute satisfaction, but all of that is Ok in my book, as long as we dont lose our best young home grown player. And I dont recall any Yorkshireman having to move clubs to try to make themselves test internationals, so its not the same. Time behind the stumps doesnt matter as much as batting. England have a huge amount of time with Jos to develop his WK skills. England contributed to his move. I dont have to be happy about it. Infact I'm not, far from it.

  • SDHM on September 29, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    Mixed emotions. Wanted him to stay but realise the situation is difficult, & I think Peter Moores will bring the best out of him if he moves to Lancs. It'll be a bittersweet day for me when he wins his first Test cap; I'll be proud a product of Somerset is taking the field for England, but a little sad he won't be doing it as a Somerset player. Good luck Jos. No doubt, in terms of business sense, it'll be a decent decision - we're likely to see much more of Kiesy than Buttler in the long run - but as much as I admire Kies, I just think we've lost a little bit of our soul with this. Something imperceptible.

    @landl47 - one thing I'll say for Jos is that he's starting from a much higher base than Bairstow or Kieswetter; you can tell he actually has a natural aptitude for the gloves, as opposed to being a batsman being made into a keeper. Odd how Bairstow's seen as Prior's back-up, as I think he's comfortably the worst keeper of the lot under MP: Jos, Kies, Davies and Foakes all better.

  • whatawicket on September 29, 2013, 10:10 GMT

    its funny how so many of our overseas contributors all have an opinion of Buttler that he a better batter than is is a wicketkeeper etc. my question is how do you know what he is. the majority of English supporters i guess would not know just which box they would put him in, but others can tell us all about him.

  • somerset_rover on September 29, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    I may need some help here guys but are Somerset the only professional County without full time (or even part time for that matter!) batting & bowling coaches? A quick review of their first innings runs during the 2013 Championship season shows an average of 271 runs scored (which is too low if they are to be serious contenders for the Championship) and more than 200 no-balls conceded (an average of 14 runs per match) during the Championship season. Surely Nosworthy needs some help with this. I agree that Buttler is brilliant in the field and his full potential rests in his batting - the jury is out as to whether he will make a regular "Test" player. No-one can argue that he is not pure box office though and losing him will have financial implications for sure.

  • siltbreeze on September 29, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Buttler should bear no blame at all here. I don't think his head has been turned - it seems he genuinely wanted to stay but was in an impossible situation. As England's one-day keeper with Test ambitions he has to be keeping for his county in all formats. So the decision was Somerset's, and they chose to let a once-in-a-generation local talent go and keep a very good player from elsewhere who's been a decent servant to the club. The wrong decision in my view. Buttler has the talent to be a global star, and while Somerset may have seen less of him on the field, the benefits of having him associated with the club are unquantifiable.

  • landl47 on September 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    Although it's not possible to see the future, my guess is that Sam Dyer's right. Buttler will play a season or two for Lancashire, interrupted by call-ups for England's short-format games, and then begin to get close to the test side. After that Lancashire will see nothing of him.

    Somerset basically had a choice between keeping Buttler for maybe a couple of years or keeping Kieswetter for 10 and they chose Kies.

    As for Viktor Southern and Munkeymomo, I'm not sure how much of England's short-format games you saw this year, but Buttler's keeping was exceptional. He actually kept far better than Matt Prior, who had a terrible test season. I haven't seen enough of Bairstow's keeping to judge, but if he's better than Buttler then he's really good. There's also Ben Foakes on the horizon. Whatever England is short of in the next 10 years, it won't be W/Ks.

  • Munkeymomo on September 29, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    @Victor: I agree that Buttler is not a good enough keeper to even keep in 2020. He is a quality batsman and an amazing fielder (he is a better fielder than ANY of the current England side I am sure of that). He should be a specialist batsman. Bairstow is not a great keeper and is less naturally talented than Jos with the bat but Eng like him, so he should keep in LO format ands Jos be a batsman, then he could still play for us.

    Also like I say, Jonny Bairstow is nothing special. His keeping is meh, and he is less talented than Jos with the blade. Don't get the hype behind him, he is a good player, nowt more.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    Ok , so I presume I'm meant to be talking nonsense re the issue - I don't think I am.

    Anyway - I feel that losing Jos is more than just losing one player. As I and others have already pointed out , Jos is box office and the sort of player who will draw in the casual fan , no matter how the team is performing. He is the sort of player who will inspire youngsters and draw them to the game and maybe to play for Somerset. So for me it could mean that we lose out on potential talent who want to emulate Jos. Maybe there were some behind the scenes issues there which will come out but the facts are that his discontent at not keeping for Somerset has only surfaced since he was given the gloves at England.

  • somerset_rover on September 30, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    So it is official - Jos is going to Lancashire. A sad day for Somerset but good luck Jos.

  • somerset_rover on September 30, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    An excellent and perceptive summary Juiceoftheapple. Like it or not Somerset are regarded (by people that matter) as a second rate cricketing County and until we can retain such talents as Buttler then we will do well shake off that label. Fridays announcement has dealt a significant blow to us.

  • Juiceoftheapple on September 29, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    Optic I'm sorry that you feel that I am selfish bemoaning that one of the most talented young Somerset players of the last 50 years has left the club, and perhaps you missed the fact I said that I'm fed up with everyone, not just Enlgand for their part with Giles chipping away at Jos. I'm fed up Craig Overton and Adam Dibble arent in the side due to overseas born players, I'm fed up with Brian Rose being at Glamorgan, I'm fed up we dont have proper coaches, I'm fed up the situation with Craig couldnt be resolved to everyones absolute satisfaction, but all of that is Ok in my book, as long as we dont lose our best young home grown player. And I dont recall any Yorkshireman having to move clubs to try to make themselves test internationals, so its not the same. Time behind the stumps doesnt matter as much as batting. England have a huge amount of time with Jos to develop his WK skills. England contributed to his move. I dont have to be happy about it. Infact I'm not, far from it.

  • SDHM on September 29, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    Mixed emotions. Wanted him to stay but realise the situation is difficult, & I think Peter Moores will bring the best out of him if he moves to Lancs. It'll be a bittersweet day for me when he wins his first Test cap; I'll be proud a product of Somerset is taking the field for England, but a little sad he won't be doing it as a Somerset player. Good luck Jos. No doubt, in terms of business sense, it'll be a decent decision - we're likely to see much more of Kiesy than Buttler in the long run - but as much as I admire Kies, I just think we've lost a little bit of our soul with this. Something imperceptible.

    @landl47 - one thing I'll say for Jos is that he's starting from a much higher base than Bairstow or Kieswetter; you can tell he actually has a natural aptitude for the gloves, as opposed to being a batsman being made into a keeper. Odd how Bairstow's seen as Prior's back-up, as I think he's comfortably the worst keeper of the lot under MP: Jos, Kies, Davies and Foakes all better.

  • whatawicket on September 29, 2013, 10:10 GMT

    its funny how so many of our overseas contributors all have an opinion of Buttler that he a better batter than is is a wicketkeeper etc. my question is how do you know what he is. the majority of English supporters i guess would not know just which box they would put him in, but others can tell us all about him.

  • somerset_rover on September 29, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    I may need some help here guys but are Somerset the only professional County without full time (or even part time for that matter!) batting & bowling coaches? A quick review of their first innings runs during the 2013 Championship season shows an average of 271 runs scored (which is too low if they are to be serious contenders for the Championship) and more than 200 no-balls conceded (an average of 14 runs per match) during the Championship season. Surely Nosworthy needs some help with this. I agree that Buttler is brilliant in the field and his full potential rests in his batting - the jury is out as to whether he will make a regular "Test" player. No-one can argue that he is not pure box office though and losing him will have financial implications for sure.

  • siltbreeze on September 29, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Buttler should bear no blame at all here. I don't think his head has been turned - it seems he genuinely wanted to stay but was in an impossible situation. As England's one-day keeper with Test ambitions he has to be keeping for his county in all formats. So the decision was Somerset's, and they chose to let a once-in-a-generation local talent go and keep a very good player from elsewhere who's been a decent servant to the club. The wrong decision in my view. Buttler has the talent to be a global star, and while Somerset may have seen less of him on the field, the benefits of having him associated with the club are unquantifiable.

  • landl47 on September 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    Although it's not possible to see the future, my guess is that Sam Dyer's right. Buttler will play a season or two for Lancashire, interrupted by call-ups for England's short-format games, and then begin to get close to the test side. After that Lancashire will see nothing of him.

    Somerset basically had a choice between keeping Buttler for maybe a couple of years or keeping Kieswetter for 10 and they chose Kies.

    As for Viktor Southern and Munkeymomo, I'm not sure how much of England's short-format games you saw this year, but Buttler's keeping was exceptional. He actually kept far better than Matt Prior, who had a terrible test season. I haven't seen enough of Bairstow's keeping to judge, but if he's better than Buttler then he's really good. There's also Ben Foakes on the horizon. Whatever England is short of in the next 10 years, it won't be W/Ks.

  • Munkeymomo on September 29, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    @Victor: I agree that Buttler is not a good enough keeper to even keep in 2020. He is a quality batsman and an amazing fielder (he is a better fielder than ANY of the current England side I am sure of that). He should be a specialist batsman. Bairstow is not a great keeper and is less naturally talented than Jos with the bat but Eng like him, so he should keep in LO format ands Jos be a batsman, then he could still play for us.

    Also like I say, Jonny Bairstow is nothing special. His keeping is meh, and he is less talented than Jos with the blade. Don't get the hype behind him, he is a good player, nowt more.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    Ok , so I presume I'm meant to be talking nonsense re the issue - I don't think I am.

    Anyway - I feel that losing Jos is more than just losing one player. As I and others have already pointed out , Jos is box office and the sort of player who will draw in the casual fan , no matter how the team is performing. He is the sort of player who will inspire youngsters and draw them to the game and maybe to play for Somerset. So for me it could mean that we lose out on potential talent who want to emulate Jos. Maybe there were some behind the scenes issues there which will come out but the facts are that his discontent at not keeping for Somerset has only surfaced since he was given the gloves at England.

  • bobmartin on September 28, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    Some people are talking so much nonsense about the Buttler business...For goodness sakes he's a professional cricketer who was under contract to Somerset and when that contract expired, for whatever reason, has decided to seek his fortune elsewhere... Why all the fuss... He isn't the first.. and he sure as hell won't be the last.. It matters not a hoot what went on behind the scenes... because unless they make the ins and outs of it public we'll never know the truth because even if Somerset do make it public... it will only be their version of events.. I'm a Somerset supporter, and the club have far bigger problems to worry about than the loss of Buttler. In one season they have gone from a force to be reckoned with in the Division One to one who only missed demotion to DivisionTwo by the skin of their teeth..That's a major problem which occurred before the Buttler event happened.. Worry more about what will happen next season rather than the loss of one player.

  • ChewtonMendip on September 28, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    @njr1330 Are you having a laugh? Kieswetter went to Bishops Diocesan College which I think you'll find is in Cape Town! He only went to Millfield for one and a half terms. What's more, he played for his country at U-19 level. Nothing wrong with being a South African obviously but let's not pretend Kieswetter isn't one. As for Ballance he captained Zimbabwe U-19s. A good bloke and all that but again, let's not pretend he's English.

  • somerset_rover on September 28, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    You have hit he nail on the head there Paul. The powers that be have made a grave error of judgement here in my mind. Kids worshipped Jos. If the club lost say 1,000 "Family Premium" members that would cost them £449k in lost revenue ... which was more than their "retained profits" in the financial years for each of the last two seasons (2011 & 2012). Who will take responsibility for that and how will they replace that income?

  • on September 28, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    Good call from Somerset, I think. Assuming that we had to lose either Kieswetter or Buttler, Kieswetter's the better to have as a county I think. Buttler is destined to become a Pietersen of a county cricketer. He'll probably only play for Lancs (if that is indeed where he is off to) for one or two seasons (which will be broken by ODI and T20I appearances) before he starts getting picked in the Tests as well. Too good a player, whereas with Kieswetter, England have discarded him (although harshly in my opinion) and as such Somerset will get full use of him for as long as he remains contracted at the club, I suspect.

  • Paul_Somerset on September 28, 2013, 16:32 GMT

    The bottom line is that in the last 12 months Somerset's management/directors/committe/men-in-suits have managed to lose Brian Rose and Jos Buttler and gained Dave Nosworthy.

    By the spring they might find they've lost some revenue from membership too.

  • on September 28, 2013, 16:31 GMT

    Buttler has nowhere near enough form or quality to keep for England in Tests. I am not sure he has shown enough to play at any of the international formats. Kieswetter is in such poor form that he cannot even get near challenging Prior for a place even though the latter is in a batting slump as well.

    Bairstow is the man of the next 10 years although England seldom keep a wickie for long - Prior is the exception.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 15:58 GMT

    @Optic on (September 28, 2013, 11:48 GMT) easy to blame England. Jos started off his Somerset career mainly playing as an outfielder/batsman and started his England career the same and there were no hints of discontentment at his role England then displaced Craig with Jos and Jos has since wanted to keep more regularly. If it was nothing to do with the Eng situation then why has Jos not been putting pressure on Somerset for extra glovework in the last few seasons? The fact is that none of this discontentment started until he started keeping wicket for England. Also do you not think England would find a place for Jos as a batsmen in the SF's if he didn't keep wicket? And if not keeping wicket regularly was an issue then why pick him to keep wicket to begin with? Eng may look after counties financially but I feel they've done Somerset few favours this season. I'm genuinely hoping Eng turn a blind eye to any possible Somerset players in the future.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 15:44 GMT

    @BMctd - Obviously if Somerset definitely agreed to Jos keeping in all their SF games and then reneged on it (for whatever reason) then Jos is the aggrieved party and whoever at Somerset brokered that deal has alot of explaining to do. However , since Somerset said that was never the case I've not heard Jos dispute that. Maybe because Somerset were correct or maybe because Jos didn't want to rock the boat while he was still there Also does keeping wicket necessarily improve his chances of getting into the test set up? He's a decent outfielder and if his FC batting improved significantly he'd have a chance of playing as a batsman where we haven't a settled number 6 and surely KP will retire in the foreseeable. Maybe I'm just cynical and Jos has grown to prefer keeping wkt above outfielding in the last year

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 15:32 GMT

    @bobmartin - Just a few counter points/question here 1 - If wicket keeping was a big issue - then why has Jos not pushed to keep wicket more regularly before this season? 2 - If Jos batted like he did vs Aus recently , do you think Eng would drop him because he isn't keeping wicket regularly? 3 - If at Lancs or wherever - if his batting doesn't improve , is he even slightly likely to be considered for tests regardless of keeping wicket? 4 - As it stands , would you not think the other JB is next in line to keep in tests anyway? 5 - Did you actually see the statement or hear the statement issued that Jos keeps in all SF games for Somerset? The reason I say this is because down the line Somerset said this was not the case and that it was agreed that Jos would keep in shorter formats nearer to when England have a series coming up.

  • bobmartin on September 28, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    Cont... Whether or not Buttler will ever be good enough to hold down a test place is a matter of opinion and only time will tell... One thing is for sure though, he never would if he isn't keeping regularly and getting the right coaching...Just as Prior has done... England clearly see Buttler as a long term investment in the limited overs format.... where perhaps keeping plays second fiddle to batting.. But being good at the former strengthens the side and his place in it. So disappointing as it may be to some people I can't see how Buttler could possibly have stayed at Somerset and realise his ambitions.. the two are totally incompatible... .. and that surely is reason enough to move on

  • bobmartin on September 28, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    I well remember that early on when Buttler was selected for England, a statement was issued by Somerset saying that they had engineered an agreement that Buttler would keep in limted overs and Kieswetter in the 4 day game... Both players were said to be happy with the arrangement... Case closed. Suddenly, and we can only speculate on the reason, that agreement didn't last very long. There can only be a certain number of reasons: The most likely scenario is that Keiswetter decides he's the #1 keeper and wants to keep in all games...After all, he's made no secret of his ambition to get his England place back. As a result Buttler decides that he doesn't want to play second fiddle and if he can't hold down a regular keeping place, he wants to move on. Whatever way it has played out management have reversed the agreement initially formulated and agreed the decision to let Kieswetter keep in all formats... Consequently time for Buttler to move on.

  • somerset_rover on September 28, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    If Somerset endure another season like this next year then notwithstanding Nosworthy's 3 year contract he must be shown the door. He must accept full responsibility for not properly managing the Buttler situation. It is also quite likely that this impacted upon Tres's form as well this year - a season without a century for the first time in 15 years. Unprecedented.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    If Jos wants to keep because HE wants to keep then he has no other option but to leave , but it begs the question as to why he has not made an issue of his lack of keeping opportunities before now? I would have thought he'd need to improve his batting quite considerably in the 4 day game if he is to be considered to play the 4 day game and he could have knuckled down and done this at Somerset next year but alas it's not to be. I just don't think Eng would drop him from shorter formats because he's not keeping enough and by the same token I don't think his test potential as a WK would improve that much if his 4 day game batting stats don't improve

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    @bobmartin - Fair enough , but there were no murmurs of any discontent at his lack of keeping opportunities until this year. This is why I think the only reason he wants to keep wicket is pressure from England and I'm pretty sure most people would say he's talented enough to play for England as a batsman alone - which is what he was chosen for to begin with. Re earning potential , I wonder if he may even be stifling his opportunities as England could limit/deny him potential IPL and other T20 leagues. If keeping is what HE wants to do then obviously this is the only decision he could make but I personally think he's nowhere near consistent enough with the bat in the 4 day game to get near the test team and that Eng would pick Jos as a WK in SFs anyway

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    @Christopher Payneon (September 28, 2013, 8:42 GMT) I'd say Lancs were more of a vogue club that Somerset - test ground status etc I'm just wondering how Nosworthy mucked Jos around? The way I read it was that Somerset agreed to let Jos keep close to the time Eng were playing shorter formats cricket - contrary to reports that a deal was agreed to have him keep in all shorter format fixtures. Obviously if Nosworthy has mucked Jos around then that's a different story My feeling is that his head was turned while with England and that whatever Somerset had done would not have been enough. Meschede is more a consolation positive and was at Somerset anyway so it doesn't in any way compensate for the loss of the best homegrown player (maybe since Botham and certainly since Tres)

  • njr1330 on September 28, 2013, 11:54 GMT

    I'm sick to death of the continuing South Africa jibes. Kieswetter went to Milfield school, and Gary Ballance went to Harrow; last time I looked, neither of those schools was in Cape Town! The Lancashire move has nothing to do with 'vogue' counties; it's simply that Butler needs to keep at a. Division 1 club, and Lancs have a vacancy, as neither Jamie Haynes nor Alex Cross, scored enough runs. Kieswetter, Compton and Butler all got picked for England while playing for Somerset, so clearly that isn't a problem.

  • Optic on September 28, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple I know you maybe upset he's left which is fair enough but I'm not sure how you can blame England. It's down to Jos and his own ambition of being the best player he can and playing for England in the role that's open to him. If you think that Jos keeping wicket every now & again in one day games for England is enough to make him the best keeper he can be, you're kidding yourself. A England keeper needs to be doing it full time for his County, not every now and again. I'm personally a Yorkshire supporter and understand fully the ins and outs of supporting a County, losing players to England and them getting messed around but it's all part and parcel of the game and crying about players wanting to further their careers is imo selfish because you'd probably do exactly the same as Jos. The fact is the Counties need England as much as England need to the Counties, especially where money is concerned.

    All the best Jos at Lanky, except against Yorkshire of course.

  • ChewtonMendip on September 28, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    Terrible news. Only Somerset could produce the most potentially exciting wk/batsman in the world and force him out of the club to accommodate a South African who isn't even a proper wicket-keeper (anyone who witnessed his hapless keeping against Derbys will testify to this). All Guy Lavender's words ring completely hollow. Of course Buttler could have been accommodated, his immense potential nurtured at Somerset, but instead it is the South African whose wishes are granted. Buttler is Somerset through and through and should have gone on to become a Somerset cricketing legend like Gimblett and Trescothick before him. He is a player whose presence on the field represented the soul of Somerset cricket but, due to disastrous management by those who don't understand what Somerset cricket is about, has been given no option but to go elsewhere to fulfil his potential. Shame on you Nosworthy, Hurry & Lavender. The Somerset public has been robbed of a treasured son. I feel very sad too Jos.

  • somerset_rover on September 28, 2013, 10:27 GMT

    Not all negative Bob. I wish Jos all the best for the future and will be taking a keen interest in his development. I am sure that he has very fond memories of the time he has spent at Somerset (as we do of him), and there will be no-one more disappointed by the outcome than himself.

  • bobmartin on September 28, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    Sorry to read all the negative comments regarding Buttler.. I suggest you look at it another way... Cricket at the top level hasn't been a game for players and gentlemen for years...It is now a professional sport and players are craftsman earning a living. An awful lot of them at county level are just that... they turn up at each game, go through the motions and go home...They are happy where they are and the county teams are full of them. Then there are the others who want to be better, want to earn more money and get more recognition.... it's called ambition.. Nothing wrong with it and all the more power to them. It's what makes for a strong national side. Good luck to Buttler wherever he goes and I for one wish him every success .

  • on September 28, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    Well done, Somerset! Chose a South African over a local lad, whose potential is far greater!

  • somerset_rover on September 28, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    A sad day for Somerset. Jos was very much the heartbeat for the next generation having represented the County since U10 age group. All of the Somerset youngsters aspired to sharing a dressing room with him. That said, I can understand the position the club has taken - "no-one bigger than the club" etc. If Jos develops to his full potential then his appearances for his County will be limited anyway, but I guess that Somerset with lose out on money from the ECB as a direct result. Fair play to Compton resigning when our Div 1 future was by no means certain. I do worry for how long we will be able to hold onto Jamie Overton now though. Agree 100% that we need to sign a decent batter. Bopara would be good but can Somerset attract that calibre of player now? The deeper problem lies in the current structure; we have no proper batting or bowling coach; Jimmy Cook now works with Brain Rose @ Glamorgan. When Tres decides the time is right to hang up his boots he can take up a coaching role.

  • on September 28, 2013, 8:42 GMT

    JG2704, Buttler hasn't moved because Lancs is a vogue county and we ain't. In fact, in the last few years we have had more international recognition both at full and lions level than Lancs.

    The fact is Nosworthy mucked Jos around & frankly if it was a choice of losing Jos or losing Nosworthy then Nosworthy should be on the first plane back to SA because yes following Rose was going to be difficult but for virtually every player to play below their ability suggests something majorly wrong with the coaching and apart from Nosworthy it's pretty much the same set up as last year.

    The one big plus has undoubtedly been Meschede and if his batting can improve next season as much as his bowling did this year then we will have a decent county all rounder

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    @Ed Seabourne on (September 28, 2013, 2:10 GMT) It's difficult knowing where to turn to improve the side. Personally I'd prefer a quality overseas batsman - and that was my view before losing Jos. But even then it's difficult getting that player who can greatly improve the side but is unlikely to be called away. Somerset have had many cases re that in recent years. Last year we had Philander who was on a workload restriction so maybe wasn't on full throttle and in T20s had Gayle (who then Uturned when WI offered him more - sorry I mean when he realised his love for playing for his country) Faf (who was called away before playing a game) and this year we had Alviro (called away by SA) , Rehmann lined up (called away) and then Chawla (who I've had mixed views about) and Elgar who was at best mediocre. So we don't want another Elgar but by the same token we don't want these repetitive scenarios whereby players get called up by their countries

  • Cyril_Knight on September 28, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Somerset look set to struggle next season in what looks a very strong First Division. Many Somerset fans said at the start of this season that they were in decline and it seems they were correct. Losing a batsman of Buttler's talent will only accelerate this.

    Buttler does need to keep regularly though. To be frank his keeping is substandard, his footwork appalling. But Matt Prior suffered from poor footwork early in his international career, the Sri Lanka tour being the best example, and sorted it out.

    The only way to improve is to keep and keep, and work with a good coach. Many people are tricked by spectacular catches taken behind the stumps, keepers with poor footwork often take these blinders because their feet are stuck to the ground. Buttler has the attributes to be a very able wicketkeeper but he will have to work very hard. Making this big call to leave his county shows he has the determination.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple on (September 28, 2013, 1:04 GMT) I totally hear you. In the last 30 years or so I reckon Somerset have had 2 homegrown legends in Botham and Tres and Jos had the potential to become a 3rd. He had that X factor about him and is the sort of player that brings the fans in and has something about him that makes kids want to idolise him etc. Also I'm not with Siraj Durrani re Milfield rolling hugely talented players of the conveyor belt on a regular basis.If that was the case it may be easier to swallow. Also with you on the blame door. Somerset were put in an impossible position. They could have handed Jos the gloves full time which may have kept him at the club but would have meant that we'd have lost a decent commited player in Craig and I get the inclin Jos would have been coaxed away from the club further down the line.

  • on September 28, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    I thought he was coming to the Bears not Lankyshire.....? Makes no odds he wants to maximize his earning potential by joining one of the perceived 'bigger clubs' like Warks, Lanks , Notts and Yarks....al of the Test Match venue clubs really. The London Clubs do not have the pull and financial clout that they used to have plus Middlesex and Surrey don't have great teams, although I was heartened to read of the youngest double centurion in the County Championship the other day.....can't recall the lad's name though....a young teenage Surrey batsman.

    Still a great achievement to get into the record books at such a young age for one's batting feats......Come on you Bears! Keith Bracey

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    CTD I'd like to be big enough to wish Jos the best but I'm afraid I don't feel that way now. There was a time back along when you could be both a county player and an Eng player and it seemed that you didn't need to play for a vogue club to stand a better chance to be picked at international level. Now it almost seems that you can't be both a county and international player. If it had been the case that Jos was the number 1 keeper until Craig came in and took his place or if he always said he was unhappy at being reserve WK , I'd feel better about it but as far as I know this has not been the case

    I was hoping that by Somerset staying up it may have impacted on Jos's (or should I say England's) decision to stay at the club but it seems no. This make's Nick's decision to stay at the club look even better as he signed a new contract when the club looked like going down

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    To me the finalisation is like the life support machine being turned off on someone who's been in a coma for some time. Still feel sickened and still feel Jos's head had been turned since hooking up with Eng this year. He had 3 seasons seemingly content just to play cricket for his home team. I still believe he is some way off the test side and he surely has to do better in the 4 day game with his batting before he is seriously considered as a test WK. And I genuinely believe that if his SF batting form had remained , Eng would have overlooked the fact he doesn't keep regularly. TBH , I don't look on Eng too favourably these days and it's now becoming a case where I don't want Somerset players to be called up so that they can remain Somerset players

  • D-Ascendant on September 28, 2013, 2:44 GMT

    Really? Given what we've seen of the two players on the international stage, I can't believe that any county would prefer Kiesy to Jos.

  • on September 28, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    I agree with basically all you're saying @Dave Brown. There was absolutely nothing the club could do about Jos Buttler leaving and I know some fans would like to blame it on the senior management but that is just not fair. I think in the offseason we need to sign a decent English top order batsmen. It doesn't need to be anyone special but a solid county batsman, just to bolster the middle order which was weak this year. Then we need a quality overseas bowler. Preferably an overseas paceman that's not going to be called up internationally soon. Just from a South African perspective you have people like Hardus Viljoen, Kyle Abbott, Ayabulela Gqamane or Marchant de Lange. Most of these are really high class bowlers that aren't getting into the Proteas side anytime soon, but are much better quality than almost all county seamers and I'm sure would be glad of the county experience. Somerset really need to bolster their squad this off season, I just hope someone at the club realises this.

  • Juiceoftheapple on September 28, 2013, 1:04 GMT

    Really disappointed with this, I normally find some positive in all things SCCC do, but I'm left feeling pretty empty by this and only have negative thoughts. Probably better to not care about a sporting team and was struggling to get to games anyway with a young family. Buttler played for the village cub l played for, and I wanted my son to watch him play for the beloved shire. It didnt necessarily matter not winning, just to have a go in style and do something special, and buttler is something special. Im a little fed up with everyone, but without doubt England the most. The counties are not simply academies for england players and international cricket catering for a load of sports fans who dip their toe into whichever sport is big at that moment, and chuck us some hush money. Buttler was already keeping for England!!! But thats not good enough for England, they had to dangle the carrot., 'You must keep!'. And we said no to dropping our pants AGAIN. I hope we lose the ashes.

  • on September 27, 2013, 21:39 GMT

    @Dave, long time Zum supporter here, I think that butler going isn't the end of the world, the talent will always come from Milfield so that isn't an issue, we should look at Moeen Ali in my opinion. Tons of runs and wickets this season, has done it in Division one before, we need a spinning all rounder, who is a top order bat, fits quite well

  • on September 27, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    A very sad but unexpected turn of events. There was no way we could satisfy two very good young players. I wish Butler all the best for the future... now, a real statement of intent from Somerset will be who get as a replacement. Butler must have been on a reasonable wage, Hussain (who has also left) was reported to have been paid a fair sum too. This leaves a god chunk of money to try and get at least one top six batman in. Apparently Bopara is out of contract, who would fit in nicely and offer a more stable 4 day option than Butler. Eckesly from Leic is also reportedly looking for a new county. We ned to build on what we have and sign a player like one of these two. Yes, promote youth but we can not have a top six with Jones and Barrow in it especially when Tres, Hildy and TRego have come of the back of very lean seasons. We cannot be carrying players again next season. 1 new English bat to come in with a season long overseas bat as well or can bowl occasional spin: Shaob Malik?

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  • on September 27, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    A very sad but unexpected turn of events. There was no way we could satisfy two very good young players. I wish Butler all the best for the future... now, a real statement of intent from Somerset will be who get as a replacement. Butler must have been on a reasonable wage, Hussain (who has also left) was reported to have been paid a fair sum too. This leaves a god chunk of money to try and get at least one top six batman in. Apparently Bopara is out of contract, who would fit in nicely and offer a more stable 4 day option than Butler. Eckesly from Leic is also reportedly looking for a new county. We ned to build on what we have and sign a player like one of these two. Yes, promote youth but we can not have a top six with Jones and Barrow in it especially when Tres, Hildy and TRego have come of the back of very lean seasons. We cannot be carrying players again next season. 1 new English bat to come in with a season long overseas bat as well or can bowl occasional spin: Shaob Malik?

  • on September 27, 2013, 21:39 GMT

    @Dave, long time Zum supporter here, I think that butler going isn't the end of the world, the talent will always come from Milfield so that isn't an issue, we should look at Moeen Ali in my opinion. Tons of runs and wickets this season, has done it in Division one before, we need a spinning all rounder, who is a top order bat, fits quite well

  • Juiceoftheapple on September 28, 2013, 1:04 GMT

    Really disappointed with this, I normally find some positive in all things SCCC do, but I'm left feeling pretty empty by this and only have negative thoughts. Probably better to not care about a sporting team and was struggling to get to games anyway with a young family. Buttler played for the village cub l played for, and I wanted my son to watch him play for the beloved shire. It didnt necessarily matter not winning, just to have a go in style and do something special, and buttler is something special. Im a little fed up with everyone, but without doubt England the most. The counties are not simply academies for england players and international cricket catering for a load of sports fans who dip their toe into whichever sport is big at that moment, and chuck us some hush money. Buttler was already keeping for England!!! But thats not good enough for England, they had to dangle the carrot., 'You must keep!'. And we said no to dropping our pants AGAIN. I hope we lose the ashes.

  • on September 28, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    I agree with basically all you're saying @Dave Brown. There was absolutely nothing the club could do about Jos Buttler leaving and I know some fans would like to blame it on the senior management but that is just not fair. I think in the offseason we need to sign a decent English top order batsmen. It doesn't need to be anyone special but a solid county batsman, just to bolster the middle order which was weak this year. Then we need a quality overseas bowler. Preferably an overseas paceman that's not going to be called up internationally soon. Just from a South African perspective you have people like Hardus Viljoen, Kyle Abbott, Ayabulela Gqamane or Marchant de Lange. Most of these are really high class bowlers that aren't getting into the Proteas side anytime soon, but are much better quality than almost all county seamers and I'm sure would be glad of the county experience. Somerset really need to bolster their squad this off season, I just hope someone at the club realises this.

  • D-Ascendant on September 28, 2013, 2:44 GMT

    Really? Given what we've seen of the two players on the international stage, I can't believe that any county would prefer Kiesy to Jos.

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    To me the finalisation is like the life support machine being turned off on someone who's been in a coma for some time. Still feel sickened and still feel Jos's head had been turned since hooking up with Eng this year. He had 3 seasons seemingly content just to play cricket for his home team. I still believe he is some way off the test side and he surely has to do better in the 4 day game with his batting before he is seriously considered as a test WK. And I genuinely believe that if his SF batting form had remained , Eng would have overlooked the fact he doesn't keep regularly. TBH , I don't look on Eng too favourably these days and it's now becoming a case where I don't want Somerset players to be called up so that they can remain Somerset players

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    CTD I'd like to be big enough to wish Jos the best but I'm afraid I don't feel that way now. There was a time back along when you could be both a county player and an Eng player and it seemed that you didn't need to play for a vogue club to stand a better chance to be picked at international level. Now it almost seems that you can't be both a county and international player. If it had been the case that Jos was the number 1 keeper until Craig came in and took his place or if he always said he was unhappy at being reserve WK , I'd feel better about it but as far as I know this has not been the case

    I was hoping that by Somerset staying up it may have impacted on Jos's (or should I say England's) decision to stay at the club but it seems no. This make's Nick's decision to stay at the club look even better as he signed a new contract when the club looked like going down

  • on September 28, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    I thought he was coming to the Bears not Lankyshire.....? Makes no odds he wants to maximize his earning potential by joining one of the perceived 'bigger clubs' like Warks, Lanks , Notts and Yarks....al of the Test Match venue clubs really. The London Clubs do not have the pull and financial clout that they used to have plus Middlesex and Surrey don't have great teams, although I was heartened to read of the youngest double centurion in the County Championship the other day.....can't recall the lad's name though....a young teenage Surrey batsman.

    Still a great achievement to get into the record books at such a young age for one's batting feats......Come on you Bears! Keith Bracey

  • JG2704 on September 28, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple on (September 28, 2013, 1:04 GMT) I totally hear you. In the last 30 years or so I reckon Somerset have had 2 homegrown legends in Botham and Tres and Jos had the potential to become a 3rd. He had that X factor about him and is the sort of player that brings the fans in and has something about him that makes kids want to idolise him etc. Also I'm not with Siraj Durrani re Milfield rolling hugely talented players of the conveyor belt on a regular basis.If that was the case it may be easier to swallow. Also with you on the blame door. Somerset were put in an impossible position. They could have handed Jos the gloves full time which may have kept him at the club but would have meant that we'd have lost a decent commited player in Craig and I get the inclin Jos would have been coaxed away from the club further down the line.

  • Cyril_Knight on September 28, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Somerset look set to struggle next season in what looks a very strong First Division. Many Somerset fans said at the start of this season that they were in decline and it seems they were correct. Losing a batsman of Buttler's talent will only accelerate this.

    Buttler does need to keep regularly though. To be frank his keeping is substandard, his footwork appalling. But Matt Prior suffered from poor footwork early in his international career, the Sri Lanka tour being the best example, and sorted it out.

    The only way to improve is to keep and keep, and work with a good coach. Many people are tricked by spectacular catches taken behind the stumps, keepers with poor footwork often take these blinders because their feet are stuck to the ground. Buttler has the attributes to be a very able wicketkeeper but he will have to work very hard. Making this big call to leave his county shows he has the determination.