England v India, 3rd npower Test, Edgbaston, 1st day August 10, 2011

England in control after seamers strike

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England 84 for 0 (Strauss 52*, Cook 27*) trail India 224 (Dhoni 77, Broad 4-53, Bresnan 4-62) by 140 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

It's a mark of the high standards which England now set that India's eventual total of 224 felt a few too many after the pace attack had made short work of the top order, but the openers reached 84 without loss to ensure England remained firmly in control at Edgbaston. The visitors slumped to 111 for 7 before MS Dhoni rediscovered his form with a counter-attacking 77 as Stuart Broad and Tim Bresnan shared eight wickets to do the bulk of the damage.

Andrew Strauss won his first toss of the series and was happy to insert - as his opposite number had twice done in the series - but though conditions were helpful the pitch was slow and the Indian batsmen mostly aided in their own demise. The only real exception was Rahul Dravid, removed by a wonderful ball from Bresnan moments before lunch, while Virender Sehwag's return lasted one ball and Sachin Tendulkar fell for 1 as England surged either side of the interval.

If it wasn't for Dhoni this match could well have been over as a contest already, but India still have a huge task to keep the series alive after Strauss and Alastair Cook made a significant dent in the total during the final 23 overs. Strauss reached his first international fifty of the season as the pace bowlers struggled to make an impression and Amit Mishra didn't pose many problems.

England's quicks, on the other hand, are a handful in most conditions so a well-grassed pitch and cloudy skies just added to the threat. James Anderson wasn't quite at his best, but Bresnan continued to demonstrate his development as a Test cricketer - and it's worth remembering his place was only confirmed when Chris Tremlett was ruled out on Tuesday - while Broad's resurgence shows no sign of abating.

Yet it wasn't perfect from the home side. While Dhoni and Praveen Kumar were adding 84 in 14 overs there was a strange loss of direction in the field. Strauss was very quick to go on the defensive to Dhoni, at one stage with eight fielders on the boundary, and the bowlers diverted from their successful strategy. As with the Broad-Swann stand at Trent Bridge it showed the impact of a positive approach and India were served well by the captain coming out of his shell. Dhoni had taken 16 balls to get off the mark, and India were going nowhere as the main batsman had departed in a rush, but he burst into life with a string of boundaries and the strut so often associated with his batting hinted at returning. His fifty came from 62 balls and included three mighty sixes to various corners of the impressively redeveloped ground.

Still, Dhoni's innings only papered over the ever-expanding cracks in India's batting. It would have seemed inconceivable at the start of the series that such a strong line-up (even allowing for the missing Sehwag and other injuries) would have failed to pass 300 in five innings. Sehwag's return couldn't have been briefer when he failed to lower his hands and gloved Broad's first delivery to the wicketkeeper. The umpire, Steve Davis, initially said not out and Strauss was swift to call for the DRS, which clearly showed the mark on HotSpot. Sehwag was seemingly carrying the hopes of a nation on his dodgy shoulder, but the odds were always stacked against him having an impact even if he's one player who often goes against convention.

Given the form of England's pace attack, a grassy pitch and cloudy skies, further wickets seemed there for the taking but India responded solidly. Gautam Gambhir, also returning from injury after the blow to his elbow at Lord's, had already collected two boundaries in Anderson's first over and moved along at a pace more akin to Sehwag's. Dravid, who wasn't given much of a break despite a return to No. 3, showed the judgement and skill that made him India's stand-out batsman in the series.

However, as India were sensing stability England burst through as Bresnan, who had bowled with nagging accuracy and immediately located the right length for the pitch, was rewarded when Gambhir inside-edged a drive onto leg stump. Tendulkar was greeted with the cheers that have followed him throughout the series and Anderson was recalled immediately to target someone he has removed seven times.

This time, though, Anderson had to settle for a helping hand in the wicket when Broad found the outside edge and he held the catch at third slip. It was the third time in the series that Broad had removed Tendulkar, whose 100th hundred is proving elusive, and India's problems didn't stop as Dravid received an unplayable leg cutter that took off stump in the final over of the session. England have had to work hard to dislodge Dravid in this series and Bresnan won't have bowled many better deliveries in his career.

Suresh Raina was again unconvincing as the quicks toyed with him before he loosely drove over a delivery from round the wicket, then Laxman joined the list of poor shots when he flicked a pull straight to long leg much as he did at Lord's. Mishra, who replaced the injured Harbhajan Singh, was batting high at No. 8 and soon edged a drive to give Broad his fourth.

The innings was at its low point, and England will have expected to be batting by tea, but India responded with some gusto. Praveen more than played his part with an idiosyncratic innings which included crunching drives and haphazard defence. The partnership was ended when Praveen top edged a pull off Bresnan, but it again needed DRS to confirm the edge after Davis said not out for the second time.

Given the ultra-defensive fields set by Strauss it was ironic that Dhoni's resistance was ended when an edge flew to the one close man - Strauss, himself, at first slip. The innings was ended when Cook, at silly point, managed to cling onto a well-timed punch that lodged in his elbow. When a team is playing confident cricket those are the sorts of things that go their way. One more good day can seal the series and No. 1 spot.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY vyasdev on | August 12, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    It is time to change the guard.Now Sachin has unforgettable series in which he is failed to score atleast 100runs in five innings,scored just one half century.dhoni never scored captian's innings,somehow seniors or others who are new to test cricket score runs he is credited for that match victory.dhoni must be removed from the captiancy and team.he takes rest and he has enough money,advertisement contracts,may be he can sit the commentary box for his achievement of world cup.someone can step into his shoes who are more than his worth for captiancy and wicket-keeping. RANK NUMBER ONE BELONGS TO THOSE WHO ARE COMMITED TO TEST CRICKET WHO SHOWS COURAGE,WILLINGNESS. DHONI IN SECOND TEST PLAYED VERY ORDINARILY AND SHOWS HIS ATTITUDE. SELECTORS OBSERVE THAT

  • POSTED BY kearon47 on | August 12, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    @jnr.1972 I'm British and was born in England, I've lived in Australia since I was 18m.o baby. I haven't got a citizenship here, my choice, so I'm english still, who's the patriot? I love Australia but my birthplace and soil and my parents memories, is Bristol England. Actually I would be happy to live in most countries, with all people, from the experiences I have had travelling. I don't personally like patiotism coz it segregates people from being the world's people that I believe it should be. But then you wouldn't have Test cricket Nations? It is the "English Team" or lets start labelling them the "Multi-Cultural team' but that name might be taken by most of the Test Teams at the moment?

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 13:55 GMT

    West Indies should have beaten India . I am sorry that the West Indies do not seem to want to win games against India for some reason or other. West Indies could have beaten India in the World Cup too. West Indies seem not to want to win !

  • POSTED BY Kashi0127 on | August 11, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Of course there is another way of looking at things from Indian perspective:

    When is the next Zimbabwe/ Bangla Desh series. We want to see India winning and Tendulkar scoring 100s

  • POSTED BY Kashi0127 on | August 11, 2011, 12:22 GMT

    I am an Indian, but happy at the turn of events. Its time we build a new team. Let us lose this series, couple of series after that. Does Not matter. Get Rid of all those who seem to have a command over Indian Cricket. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Zaheer to name a few. There is lot of young blood - bring them in - India can have a wonderful team in years to come. There is Manish(Pandey), Vinay (Kumar), Pujara, Ravindran to name a few.

  • POSTED BY vish57 on | August 11, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    World No. 1 team , cannot bat or bowl like even a 10th team; excuses are many; reality bites, lack lusture bowling, Poor opening partnership, brittle lower middle order. Looks Dravid and Laxman only deserves to be in playing XI. ICC parameters for test ranking is grossly wrong, team India winning series in India and not winning a series in Australia, South Africa, now the terrible failure in England, still a shame to ICC to call India as No.1. Better ICC revamps the rating methodology.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | August 11, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    Poor boy Mukund, could not find a place in team because of other World Class Batsmen in the ranks, even though apart from Dravid, he is the only player scoring 100 in this tour.

    This team seems to be made of injured players, who are there physically but their mind is elsewhere. May be thinking on next IPL moolah or CLT20 coming up.

  • POSTED BY Fluffykins on | August 11, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Come on India dont reliquish your test raking spot so easily you are shaming your fans and the spectators who have paid good money to see you stand around looking like you are waiting for a bus.

    I am going to the Oval for the last test and I did not stump up to see this type of apathetic dross.

    Buck Up!

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 10:51 GMT

    Hy Team India. Please come back, you have a reason that there is a riot so we are not safe say to ICC. Don't spoil more name of our country, you already what done what you can so now enough & if in flight only 1 sit if left give 1st chance to Sachine to come back to India. Don't worry about 100th century he will make against Kenya, Bangladesh or Zimbabwe

  • POSTED BY Cric-Icon on | August 11, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    This has been the worst ever performance by India for the last 37 years against England in England(it is very unlikely that India can win at least one test match in the current series).They did not lose 2 test matches in a series after 1974. 1974 - India lost 0-3(total 3 tests), 1979 - lost 0-1 (total 4), 1982 - lost 0-1(total 3), 1986 - won 2-0 (total 3), 1990 - Lost 0-1(total 3), 1996 - lost 0-1(total 3), 2002 - Drew 1-1 (total 4), 2007 - won 1-0(total 4). Though Indian batsmen are poor against swinging and bouncing ball (has been the story since 1932 except on 2 or 3 occasions)...I thought DRAVID,LAXMAN and SEHWAG(may not have good defensive technique, but with his pure timing he can turn the game in favour of India if he bats for at least 90 min.) would perform really well and save India but they are also not up to the mark in this series. Definitely, this is going to be the testing time for DHONI...

  • POSTED BY vyasdev on | August 12, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    It is time to change the guard.Now Sachin has unforgettable series in which he is failed to score atleast 100runs in five innings,scored just one half century.dhoni never scored captian's innings,somehow seniors or others who are new to test cricket score runs he is credited for that match victory.dhoni must be removed from the captiancy and team.he takes rest and he has enough money,advertisement contracts,may be he can sit the commentary box for his achievement of world cup.someone can step into his shoes who are more than his worth for captiancy and wicket-keeping. RANK NUMBER ONE BELONGS TO THOSE WHO ARE COMMITED TO TEST CRICKET WHO SHOWS COURAGE,WILLINGNESS. DHONI IN SECOND TEST PLAYED VERY ORDINARILY AND SHOWS HIS ATTITUDE. SELECTORS OBSERVE THAT

  • POSTED BY kearon47 on | August 12, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    @jnr.1972 I'm British and was born in England, I've lived in Australia since I was 18m.o baby. I haven't got a citizenship here, my choice, so I'm english still, who's the patriot? I love Australia but my birthplace and soil and my parents memories, is Bristol England. Actually I would be happy to live in most countries, with all people, from the experiences I have had travelling. I don't personally like patiotism coz it segregates people from being the world's people that I believe it should be. But then you wouldn't have Test cricket Nations? It is the "English Team" or lets start labelling them the "Multi-Cultural team' but that name might be taken by most of the Test Teams at the moment?

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 13:55 GMT

    West Indies should have beaten India . I am sorry that the West Indies do not seem to want to win games against India for some reason or other. West Indies could have beaten India in the World Cup too. West Indies seem not to want to win !

  • POSTED BY Kashi0127 on | August 11, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Of course there is another way of looking at things from Indian perspective:

    When is the next Zimbabwe/ Bangla Desh series. We want to see India winning and Tendulkar scoring 100s

  • POSTED BY Kashi0127 on | August 11, 2011, 12:22 GMT

    I am an Indian, but happy at the turn of events. Its time we build a new team. Let us lose this series, couple of series after that. Does Not matter. Get Rid of all those who seem to have a command over Indian Cricket. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Zaheer to name a few. There is lot of young blood - bring them in - India can have a wonderful team in years to come. There is Manish(Pandey), Vinay (Kumar), Pujara, Ravindran to name a few.

  • POSTED BY vish57 on | August 11, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    World No. 1 team , cannot bat or bowl like even a 10th team; excuses are many; reality bites, lack lusture bowling, Poor opening partnership, brittle lower middle order. Looks Dravid and Laxman only deserves to be in playing XI. ICC parameters for test ranking is grossly wrong, team India winning series in India and not winning a series in Australia, South Africa, now the terrible failure in England, still a shame to ICC to call India as No.1. Better ICC revamps the rating methodology.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | August 11, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    Poor boy Mukund, could not find a place in team because of other World Class Batsmen in the ranks, even though apart from Dravid, he is the only player scoring 100 in this tour.

    This team seems to be made of injured players, who are there physically but their mind is elsewhere. May be thinking on next IPL moolah or CLT20 coming up.

  • POSTED BY Fluffykins on | August 11, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Come on India dont reliquish your test raking spot so easily you are shaming your fans and the spectators who have paid good money to see you stand around looking like you are waiting for a bus.

    I am going to the Oval for the last test and I did not stump up to see this type of apathetic dross.

    Buck Up!

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 10:51 GMT

    Hy Team India. Please come back, you have a reason that there is a riot so we are not safe say to ICC. Don't spoil more name of our country, you already what done what you can so now enough & if in flight only 1 sit if left give 1st chance to Sachine to come back to India. Don't worry about 100th century he will make against Kenya, Bangladesh or Zimbabwe

  • POSTED BY Cric-Icon on | August 11, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    This has been the worst ever performance by India for the last 37 years against England in England(it is very unlikely that India can win at least one test match in the current series).They did not lose 2 test matches in a series after 1974. 1974 - India lost 0-3(total 3 tests), 1979 - lost 0-1 (total 4), 1982 - lost 0-1(total 3), 1986 - won 2-0 (total 3), 1990 - Lost 0-1(total 3), 1996 - lost 0-1(total 3), 2002 - Drew 1-1 (total 4), 2007 - won 1-0(total 4). Though Indian batsmen are poor against swinging and bouncing ball (has been the story since 1932 except on 2 or 3 occasions)...I thought DRAVID,LAXMAN and SEHWAG(may not have good defensive technique, but with his pure timing he can turn the game in favour of India if he bats for at least 90 min.) would perform really well and save India but they are also not up to the mark in this series. Definitely, this is going to be the testing time for DHONI...

  • POSTED BY brittop on | August 11, 2011, 10:42 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus PS lets's test your theory- is Andrew Symonds an Aussie?

  • POSTED BY jr1972 on | August 11, 2011, 10:36 GMT

    @kearon47, say whatever you want mate, and by the way I am English, I was born in England and I hold a British passport (no such thing as English citizenship) they aren't English or even British, they are professional sportsman playing in a very professional era where money and in the case of the South African situation, politics have a bigger say than a flag. As for kissing a badge, please, if you think that loyalty/patriotism etc is measured on these grounds then you are fooling only yourself. Don't fall into the hands of those who constantly raise the South African issue as a jibe against our team by making such a weak case. They have all qualified to play for England through one route or another and they are doing so with success. Leave it at that as there is no comeback from the other side of the debate unless there is an overhaul of the qualification rules.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | August 11, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus: Ah the old "where you happen to be born is the only determining factor of you nationality" argument. Oh, and by the way, Ravi Bopara was born in London.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    The only thing that can save India...Rain!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY SanjivAwesome on | August 11, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    No disrespect to the very professional English cricketers who are in great form, but they are playing on doctored pitches, in helpful climatic conditions. I should expect them to win 4-0 with ease, and they are doing so!

  • POSTED BY sanjaykn on | August 11, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    This will be a total wash out 4-0! Indians are burnt out and jaded! Non stop cricket has taken its toll! They should have come 1 month before to england to acclimatize! They were over confidant on their batting abilities and have totally underestimated the english attack! None of the senior players barring rahul( he is terribly slow. Once he is set he doesn't accelerate and dominate. This wont help either as the next batsman will also have to start conservatively as there are not many runs on the board even with rahul set! Once set you must bring out the cut and the drive. Just don't leave the ball and stall the score! And no batsman is standing outside the crease or going on the attack to upset the rhythm of the bowlers! Dhoni showed it a bit! But he does it once in 10 innings!). All in all india dint come here to play, they came here on a vacation. A total washout is imminent! They could also be humiliated in one dayers!

  • POSTED BY cardassian on | August 11, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    C'mon England! Win this one and the number 1 spot is yours Guaranteed. Awesome domination yesterday.

  • POSTED BY Yoursfriendpk on | August 11, 2011, 9:38 GMT

    Indian Tatto dont deserve to be a No.1 Test team ever they dont have good even reasonable bolling attack ever since now. Every time Indian team wins or going to win any test match a poll sign appear to be conduct where is that poll sign now that the Team India dont deserve No.1 Test Team ever.

  • POSTED BY madras_boy on | August 11, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    Had it not for the DRS, India would have scored beyond 300 ! I blame it now ! DRS is spoiling the spirit of the game atleast for me. Why cant ICC remove the umpires and place elite robots with a HAWK-EYE, HOTSPOT for future matches !!!

  • POSTED BY puskas on | August 11, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    Gnasher,

    PLEASE stop using "in control" in your headlines. This is test cricket. Momentum can change as quickly as the English weather.

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | August 11, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    Here is the simple issue-For ages India has had a powerful batting line up; no question. In that same time their bowling line up has only been at best solid; not exceptional. Truely good teams have a powerful bowling line up. Eng is such a team, but more than that they are a professional and tight unit. India are now suffering the consequences of playing too many games aganist SL and Bang on dead flat tracks. This has meant their batting averages have been seriously conflated, even of the likes of quality batsman-Tendulka/Dravid. Suddenly they come to England that provides pitches for bat and ball (Eng have done fine with bat) and they implode. The batsman have been exposed. Eng on the other hand are more able to cope with the swing and their own pitches against an ave bowling line up (injuries are a factor but Eng still would have dominated). It was foolish of the Indians to over celebrate when they beat SA to retain #1 in only a 2 test series. SA would have won in a longer series.

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | August 11, 2011, 8:48 GMT

    Reading the comments pushing me to believe we are never going to learn. First it is not the age that matters for instilling new blood; it is 'New' itself. It is difficult to sustain interest on something for maore than 8 years so by todays standards age 30 is quite young so push in Badrinath as soon as possible. He will scale up; remember how safely he score those fast runs in IPL; he was just a drafter before. It is not fair to chuck him out 2 or 3 low ODI scores in an unimportant tour. The second misunderstanding is a team needs someone with intense personality like Kumble or Zaheer or Ganguly. We only have Ashwin in those lines. Let us form an Ashwin-Rahul Sharma combination. If Zaheer not playing replace him with Varun Aaron to partner Ishant. Tendulkar, Laxman and even Dravid should go; there presence wouldn't allow the team to feel New.

  • POSTED BY Wiper_Warriors on | August 11, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    Eng will win this match and will become NO 1..but as of now I can say that present no1 test team can't play in seaming condition and future No 1 team can't play in spinning condition...sooner or later INDIA will regain their NO1 position...

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 8:28 GMT

    I hate to be a harbinger of doom for the eternally optimistic indian fans (oh who am i kidding, i love it), but those hoping for a trent bridge type miracle here (yet with roles reversed) dont understand the edgbaston pitch. Unlike Lords & Trent bridge, (where you can fail in the 1st dig, because the pitch will stay true for 5 days) what we have in edgbaston is a true cricket wicket. there will be a bit in it for the 1st 2 days, then it will flatten, and then it will deteriorate, badly. In order to win at edgbaston you MUST bat big 1st time round as it will be very variable in bounce by day 4. Unless india have a MASSIVE session this morning (4/5 wickets) england will comfortably score 500+ and let the pitch and the mental disintegration do the rest. Role on south africa and a REAL challenge

  • POSTED BY DINESHCC on | August 11, 2011, 8:22 GMT

    Ist TEST: LOST BY 196 RUNS, 2ND TEST, BY 319 RUNS. 3RD TEST WHAT? INNINGS DEFEAT, 4TH TEST, GAME FINISHED INSIDE TWO DAYS

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    India don't seem interested as their body language attests, almost as if they've given up. Unprofessional and bad for cricket. Come on India make a series out of it!

  • POSTED BY WiseGoofGrace on | August 11, 2011, 8:20 GMT

    To all my beloved Indian fans... ROFL!!!

    I think SL (surnames Long) pLayed better...

    I have a solution as well, take a leaf out of English fans

    don't let your rank get inside your head.

  • POSTED BY Idea-Man on | August 11, 2011, 8:20 GMT

    I see fans and critics writing a lot of suggestions i.e. BCCI should do this, Players should do that, but what is the end result - ZERO. The problem is at the very root i.e. the BCCI, they have never been transparent in their actions, and have claimed on record that they are not accountable to anyone, how can the game progress in a positive direction if the countries governing authoritys philosophy is such. Like a professional office employee - if he is absent from work for a day he is asked to account for his absence, so when we call a cricket players professional, than why is it not that the same yard stick of accountability applied to them as well. They should be asked why they played a certain shot which wasnt in the interest of the team etc. etc. I mean looking at the amount of time people spend following the progress of the team etc. the players should also be responsible to us - We the Fans, We the people who follow cricket in India. Its high time we did something about it.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    @Israr-Ahmed.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-pakistan-2010/engine/series/426350.html Pakistan tour of England 2010 / Results.. Read thoroughly and then tell me How can you say that Indians are playing like Pakistanis???

  • POSTED BY tomhedley on | August 11, 2011, 8:02 GMT

    To all the Indian fans moaning about conditions and how we'd struggle in India, I recall a drawn series in '06 and a 1 nil defeat because of an unbelievable run chase a couple of years back. Don't seem to remember too many losses by 200 runs! I know the series is far from over but there's a huge gulf in the seam attacks and the Indian batsmen with the exception of Dravid don't seem to put a value on their wicket. Laxman is an absolute disgrace, the guy has so much talent and chucks it away time and again.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    People, India are NOT playing England in test matches this winter just a few one-dayers! So please stop saying India will do this and that to England in the winter!

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Guys its jst a bad tym for us.... The no 1 place for us is jst tiny thing dont wrry our team wil bounce back ....... curntly england had many advantgs doing gud with thr great form...

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    @IsrAr-Ahmed....Pakistan won two test matches in their England tour, each against Australia and England, and gave England very tough time in the other two test matches. So by no means, Indians are Playing like Pakistanis. In fact, Pakistan played much more competitive cricket than Indians in their English tour last summer. Even English fans are saying now about Indians that they want some competition...!!!!

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | August 11, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    @slsupporters007 .really? i can say the sane thing about jayawardne . his 11 centuries are scored on r premdasa ,colombo. i agree with you that when team needs sachin to perform he never performs but please don't say that sachin has scored most of the runs in indian tracks . i remind you out of sachin's 51 test centuries , 9 have come in australia against the best australian side , 6 in south africa against the likes of donald , steyn , pollack, 4 in england , 2-2 in nz and west indies . so 23 centuries have come outside the subcontinent . i have not included pak & sl otherwise the it may go to 30.then how can you say that he scores most of his runs in india .

  • POSTED BY Jimmyfive on | August 11, 2011, 7:39 GMT

    India were dismissed under 300 in the team first innings for the tenth time in Tests since January 2009. Seven of these occasions have come in the last nine innings.

  • POSTED BY Jimmyfive on | August 11, 2011, 7:37 GMT

    Since the Brisbane Test in November 2010, England have bowled out the opposition team in 17 out of 19 innings. The only two times they failed to bowl out the opposition were in rain-affected matches against Sri Lanka. THAT is a bowling attack

  • POSTED BY kearon47 on | August 11, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    Those so called South Africans in the English Team have English Citizenship yeah. They have played the majority of their cricket in England (The home of Cricket) yeah. They kiss what badge on their hat for what country. That means they are English yeah, end of story. Oh and the first lot of Australian Test Cricketer's were from where?

  • POSTED BY DINESHCC on | August 11, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    SUKUMAR KANTRI: EVEN IN DAY TIME DREAM IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. PL. ACCEPT THE FACT. THIS TEST IS ALREADY GONE. BRESNAN IS NOT A REGULAR MEMBER IN THE PLAYING XI. WHEN HE COULD TAKE 5 WICKETS EVERY TIME AND SCORING FREELY, WHAT IS THE CALIBER OF OUR PLAYERS?

  • POSTED BY Tatsache on | August 11, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    I was thought Ind will going to loose first 2 tests,Ind lost....I bieleved this test India going to draw atleast....!

  • POSTED BY Idea-Man on | August 11, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    No one seems to be pointing out at the deficiency of proper technique and approach of the current Indian test playing eleven players. Compared to the English batsmen, our batsmen push at the ball each and every time, instead of just dropping their wrist and the ball at their feet, and our tail seems to be living in a different world, as they don't seem to understand the situation and realize that the batsman at the other end (as in the last match and in the 1st innings of the 3rd test) is a proper top order batsman, and they should try and give support to him rather than go slogging as if it is the end of the innings, I don't understand what role the Coach plays, if we see this happening day in day out. Looking at the performance of India in this and the previous series, one can safely say that India is fast running the route that West Indies find them selves at present in their international standing. Come on team India - victories and losses are part of the game, but show a fight

  • POSTED BY kingcobra85 on | August 11, 2011, 7:13 GMT

    @Amsyrocker Mukund failed 4 times in a row

    How is scoring 49 in his first ever innings in england a failure ? he failed in 3 innings i give that but he has survived more balls in this series than gambir and yuvraj.they have played in england before!

    If you don't see bias in this i don't know what you looking at! because in India we always go by democracy but we rarely care for performance or excellence...If the entire media is crying out loud for sehwag we hurried prepare him and insert him into the team without giving any thought.

    Sehwag is not a machine to switch on and off... he needs time to get going how can he play in this test if he hasn't played an test match in six months.

    Mukund the unlucky chap has to sit out after a century! even then he was the only to score some runs in that match

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    lots of talk about the bouncing back ability of India, i am sure india will not bounce back untill a home series. Its almost like we lost the series by 4-0, i am sure this is all becouse of non stop indian cricket. Lets see the performance in Champions league T20 !!! after all these useless cricket, india going to Aus. and there also Dhoni wll say no time for preparation. We are true fans of cricket so please BCCI take a good decesion and keep away international players from IPL and such useless cricket format. I feel pitty when raina got out yesterday, a full pitch ball allmost like overpitch, and sad to say he was expecting a bouncer....

  • POSTED BY Narain on | August 11, 2011, 6:54 GMT

    I am totally sick of hearing this again. But the truth is bitter pill to swallow. Indian batters fails again, Indian bowlers once again failed to pick up early wicket. As a die hard fan of India, I did not expect them to surrender their wickets so cheaply. Now one thing that is yet to be cleared off. Are we expecting too much from team India? The team which is not capable of playing good swing bowling, their youngsters not capable of tackling even good length delivery (Short ball is out of scope for them), Out of form senior batsman (Dravid is an exception here), bowlers trying hard but not picking up wickets, last but not least - team missing some key players

    All these combine as a force to defeat team India. - We have to accept the truth that our end (as no.1 test team) is near. Ok then who cares about ranking (it will take care of itself - according to Dhoni) - the most embracing is the defeat margins.

  • POSTED BY PalaceExile on | August 11, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus - Ravi Bopara was born in London, Strauss was born in SA, moved to England, then Australia before moving back to England and has spent most of his life here. Matt Prior moved to England when he was 11. The era of players being born to parents who come from that place, living in one place for their whole lives and playing for that county is over.

  • POSTED BY cricketfan03 on | August 11, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    Blah Blah Blah....i don't understand what's wrong with every1 criticizing India...This series is still ongoing and has NOT finished. India is very well known for bouncing back. To all Indian team players......well done for everything you guys have done so far including the WORLD CUP for SECOND TIME which England is still dreaming of and will keep on. The only reason they are outperforming is because of home conditions let's see what they do when they visit INDIA....

    Better start preparing POMS........

  • POSTED BY burnie01 on | August 11, 2011, 6:32 GMT

    Sydney_aus: Check your facts before you post - Ravi Bopara was born in Forest Gate, London !

  • POSTED BY AamirZafar on | August 11, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    India on course for a HUGE defeat....1st Test England won by 196 runs, 2nd Test england won by 319 runs, Well Done England.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    Indian batsman once agian fail to score in England..they are good player on Indian pitches.only dravid and laxman can do any thing for the indian team but laxman is failing in a trap again and again.... English team playing with a superb plan ..they worked out on each and every batsman of indian team so far they are doing it too gud

    Looks Like it will be 4-0

  • POSTED BY mensan on | August 11, 2011, 6:28 GMT

    500+ total for England is on cards. it will put great pressure on india in 2nd innings and may be sufficient for an innings win. indian batsmen are no match to english bowlers.

  • POSTED BY kevinpp24 on | August 11, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    And guess what? they already started advertising for CHAMPIONS LEAGUE T20. Brilliant thats exactly what THE GAME needs. ICC says International teams should play no more than 7 T20s per year because they fear it may destroy ODI and TEST. But what about IPL and T20 they are more like International matches. Aren't they?

  • POSTED BY vinchester on | August 11, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    VVS & Gautam are time and again easy prey for England. Post a deep square leg & a midwicket; wait for vvs to hook high or pullan outside off ball to midwicket; for gautam invite an offdrive for an inncutter to see it take the edge and the stumps. Sachin is in poor form; No i ranking is gone ; Sachin should not retire but wait until India reclaims no 1 spot in tests. I hope this memo is published.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    I do not think this test is over yet. Considering that one knock will always bolster the Wrold Champion's attack, I would confidently say so. There is 2nd innings to come. Also did anyone notice the amount of side turn Mishra got, exactly 2 hrs after Swann was hammered (which was reminiscent of the great Shane Warne in Edgbaston)? I think days 4 and 5 will be good enough for spin bowling. But the challenge is World Champions have to remove the English batsmen out for 300 odd. Then we have a great contest ahead. I think this English middle order has the weakest technique ever, that has played in a Test on which Mishra and co (Sehwag and Raina). should be able to feast on them for sure. Even if the world champions loose the number 1 test rankings, we will always get it back when England are playing against us in India later this year. So our test rankings are not going anywhere...

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 6:14 GMT

    its a 4-0 whitewash for sure, what a shame

  • POSTED BY SVck on | August 11, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    so first series loss for DHONI

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 5:57 GMT

    question is tis only,if India win or loss.you have no business to check it out how many foreign players played for England.all players who represent English cricket teams are British citizens.plz find out more valuable and fee-sable excuses for this tragic collapses

  • POSTED BY IsrAr-Ahmed on | August 11, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    Another heavy defeat is on the cards... Indian are playing like what Pakistan did last summer in England although Pakistan won 1 Test Match. Anyways best of luck for Team India for ODI Series.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    Pathetic batting again.nothing unexpected.strangely,sreesanth opening the bowling although ishant had got cook both times in the last match.everything is disappointing.have stopped following this series on tv already.total flop show.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    home advantage favours england. its not r8 to call England as No.1 test team, who hasnt achieved series wins in asia. but its damn r8 to call india , dont deserve as No.1 test team..

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 5:34 GMT

    Though i am a hard core Indian fan, there is absolutely no excuse for the pathetic batting performance which India dished out yday. In the first 2 tests atleast the conditions were against us & the pitch had more juice as well...but yday, the pitch had no demons at all & still we struggled to get past 200. Except for Dravid's dismissal which was a peach of a delivery, probably one of the very best of Bresnan's career...the way the others got out was disgraceful. Unless India pull their socks, this match wont go beyond 4th day or at the max 1st session of final day!!!

  • POSTED BY EVERGR8 on | August 11, 2011, 5:30 GMT

    lol..... remember India has also became a 'so-called' champion in their home, that's why it took them 28 years to get it. A real champion wins in every condition, as WI and AUS used to do, india is just another team, not a real champion, just wait for 2015 WC and watch how your champion performs in those conditions ;] @everybodylovesSachin

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | August 11, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    @ HERATH UK . YOU SAID SRI LANKA IS BETTER THAN INDIAN TEAM . I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SRI LANKANS WANT FROM INDIA ? YOU SHOULD LOOK AT YOUR TEAM PERFORMANCE WHICH GOT OUT LESS THAN 200 ON A FLAT TRACK BY AUSSIES . OK INDIANS ARE NOT GOOD ON BOUNCY & GREEN PITCHES BUT AT LEAST THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOUR SL TEAM WHICH HAS NOT WON A SINGLE TEST IN SA, AUS & EVEN IN FLAT TRACK INDIA . INDIA WILL LOST THIS BY 4-0 . BUT I WILL STILL SAY THAT INDIA IS BETTER THAN SL . ONE BAD SERIES DOESN'T MAKE A TEAM BAD .

  • POSTED BY panchakoti on | August 11, 2011, 5:25 GMT

    I said it yesterday, its all a question of MIND GAMES...ITS ALL IN THE MIND. DHONI PROBABLY PROVED IT YESTERDAY WITH HIS STUNNING 77 RUNS PUT ON THE BOARD. IF the english can do it, why can't we??? BUT ARE WE IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND TO DO IT???? IF NOT THE ENGLISH BATTING, their bowling has been consistent & accurate, where is ours??? we are virtually collapsing in all areas of the game...IS IT THE END OF OUR WORLD TOP POSITION??? DID WE DESERVE TO LOSE IT??? THE ANSWER IS IN THE NEXT 3 DAYS...

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 11, 2011, 5:18 GMT

    @Sydney Aus, change the record, Strauss and Prior all learnt thier cricket in England and through the county system, the same goes for Ravi is it thier fault that they were born abroad when thier parents were working there. England only have 2 official South africans, Trott and KP. Even Australia is using foreign born players, or have you forgotten Kwahaja is Pakistani by birth?

  • POSTED BY kevinpp24 on | August 11, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    INDIA can you step aside. Well Ladies and Gentlemen, its time to introduce you The NO.1 TEST TEAM in the Planet "ENGLAND", who truly and deservedly thrashed the Worst No.1 to ever have played Test Cricket.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | August 11, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    I THINK BCCI SHOOULD START PREPARING GREEN PITCHES IN INDIA . LOOK THERE ARE MANY GROUNDS IN INDIA WHICH HOSTS TEST MATCH (MOHALI, AHEMDABAD, HYDERABAD , MUMBAI, BANGALORE , CHENNAI , NAGPUR , DELHI , KOLKATA , KANPUR ) AND MORE . AT LEAST 15 GROUNDS IN INDIA HOSTS TEST MATCH . IF BCCI CAN MAKE PITCH OF SOME 4-5 GROUNDS GREEN THEN THERE WOULD BE THREE ADVANTAGES . 1. YOUNG INDIAN BATSMEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY SWINGING AND BOUNCING DELEVERIES . 2. GREEN PICHES SHOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE OUR INDIAN FAST BOWLERS . WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM ON FLAT TRACKS IN RANJI GAMES . 3. WITH A GREEN PITCH THERE WOULD BE A HIGH POSSIBILITY OF MATCH PRODUCING A RESULT . IT WILL ALSO ATTRACTS THE INDIAN CROWD TO TEST MATCHES .

  • POSTED BY MasudBaig on | August 11, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Remember Team India has been to the no. 1 spot for quite some time which is not easy, they have good talent such as Laxman and Dravid. What i feel here is that any other team would have struggled againts the form in which the england players are displaying currently.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | August 11, 2011, 4:51 GMT

    solution find for indian batsman . against swinging deleveries of english bowlers . indians know that they would not survive more . so they have to start attacking like dhoni . if every batsmen from the top 7 contributes 40 odd runs then we can achieve 300 run landmark in this series . lol.

  • POSTED BY godomania on | August 11, 2011, 4:48 GMT

    what is this argument that the English squad is fielding foreign players? are we not citizens of one global community? if you ask me! the English are a perfect example of integration! i believe its time Sydney-Aus get to the program and watch some real English exhibition! listen up! the English train is in motion so u better"GET IN LINE" see you at the end of the English Wash!!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY sapthagiri_186 on | August 11, 2011, 4:47 GMT

    Truly, India's performance is below the average line of excellence in this tour. And for the first time in d series, the Indian Cap has showed that his batting hasn't dried up yet & did well to keep the scoreboard pushing. Nevertheless, India were always sitting in the tail of the flight while the English were enjoying the flight in the cockpit. The brutally dominated our bowlers & their bowlers have tore our ribs apart. Except for a couple, d entire team batting hasn't been so good. We still have a chance to bounce back and we do have the potential to win. Sehwag's X-factor was utter flop as he went for a GOLDEN DUCK for the very 1st ball he faced.

  • POSTED BY blondblackberry on | August 11, 2011, 4:45 GMT

    come on english fans india wouldn't b ashamed even if they r last in the rankings 'cause they wil never play for rankings.especially dhoni doesn't worry ab't losing it is how one get's back to fight.india did show some fight.it's ironical a small fight even makes dooms day for english.let's make it clear when swings english play well when spins india play well.it doesn't look an even field.

  • POSTED BY boyrocky on | August 11, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    indian fans pls dont lose hope. we are still not down and out. the moisture will help our seamers this morning for sure. PK and SS will rip through the England top order in the morning and then amit mishra will finish it off. i think England will score max 175 and we will have a lead of 50 runs. then we score 350 in the 2nd innings and Viru and Mishra will rip the Eng batting line up in the 4th innings and we will win. Dhoni showed the world that india on the rise and it will be the beginning of the end of the dream of england of being no 1.

  • POSTED BY krishna_cricketfan on | August 11, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    @ DazTaylor: You are very correct. England if it becomes the No 1 team now, I will respect them just as I have respect for them now also. Becoming NO 1, is just not an easy thing to do. Respect comes first and then anyone can discuss why India failed this badly. Now to remain on top is also a difficult one. England has outplayed India in this series and that is the truth. Indian fan must face this truth and also remember the good times this very same treated us with. There is no point in saying that Dhoni must go, Big 3 must Go et all.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    as to add 2 my previous comments...the only stand out player n true test player 4rm the indian team is my ever fav dravid...i really wonder whn all these players retire, wht the heck is gona hppn 2 dis team...if there was a test cricket world cup bet u there would be a league for it like IPL!!

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | August 11, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    Looks like India will soon be competing with Zimbabwe and Bangadesh for the bottom rank.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    there is lack of commitment,intensity,hunger from Ind team.they r thinking that they won WC so they hav achieved everything.why raina is playing.he is not test player.he shud play only IPL & t20.

  • POSTED BY blondblackberry on | August 11, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    english discplined bowling fumbled with just a little attack by dhoni.indians r not in form if viru gets everything perfect bowlers just watch out he can turn the tide in few overs leave alone ur swing whatever.come on their pace is not much than india it is the assistance from the pitch that troubles not only indians also their batsmen.

  • POSTED BY Stevieweivy on | August 11, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    Suryabrata Banerjee on (August 10 2011, 20:23 PM GMT) - the only good spin bowling on an Indian pitch these days is likely to be the visitors ;)

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    @Dolce Raveur- You are talking about one day Cricket.I know this is very hard situation for Indian die hard cricket fans,But you have to accept the fact.India don`t deserve number 1 position. They are playing worst than school cricket team.LOL. Can you tell me how many times they scored 300+ in this series?? No answer?? SL played better than this.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Quite frankly, India has gotten out of jail on numerous occasions over the last couple of years, but there are no escape routes provided by this Engand attack. Our brilliant older batsmen don't have the reflexes to cope , and the youngsters neither have the technique nor the guts. I think even the Zimbabwe attack would pose problems for us if the conditions favored pace bowling. And our commendable World Cup win is going to be devalued imminently, the odds would not be too long on 4-0 in the Tests and 5-0 in the ODIs. Oh well, life goes on !!

  • POSTED BY Sukumar_Kantri on | August 11, 2011, 3:48 GMT

    The case of trentbridge is getting repeated here. There Eng were 106/7 and ended up 221.... India 288..in 1st innings and finally Eng won the game by massive margin... The same thing repeated here, India -111/7 to 224 allout. If Ind can bowlout Eng for less than 325, and score 350 in 2nd innings, India is going to win this match by 50+ runs.... It all depends on how Indian bowlers going to perform on day 2 and Indian batsman in 2nd innings.... Eagerly waiting for a desperate Indian win in this match... Hope this was a good toss to lose and bat first...

  • POSTED BY Khalidrao on | August 11, 2011, 3:46 GMT

    BIG GUNS ONLY SMOKED..... A fantastic English bowling and pathetic Indian batting did make fate worse for the Indians. For me, the only reason for the failure of Indian team is there batting. India never had even an average bowling attack and same did they have here. Only 2 hundreds and 4 fifties in 5 innings speak all about it. They are only a master on flat subcontinent wickets. I believe, India were never a deserving Top Test Team as they always retteled against good bowling. With same mindset and same motivation, they will probably see a 0-4 at the end of this series. However, I can bet, they might reverse the same in their home series against England in winters. But again, this will be an unfortunate situation as this might again lead them to Top Spot and this is ridiculous.

  • POSTED BY SLsupporter007 on | August 11, 2011, 3:40 GMT

    Dear indian supporters, stop assuming England was in india and they would struggle. Come to reality, your team is simply getting thrashed over there because of bad cricket. Mind you this pitch is not as bad as the Trent Bridge pitch and the Lords pitch for batsman. You guys only have 2 quality batsman Dravid and Laxman. I knew the indian loss was in the cards after seen the way they played against a weak windies side, in similar conditions to india.

  • POSTED BY la_bazza on | August 11, 2011, 3:33 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus, You forgot Flower - He is from Zimbabwe.

  • POSTED BY SLsupporter007 on | August 11, 2011, 3:33 GMT

    The funny thing is most of the indian supporters dont accept the fact that they are playing badly. Past stats and records are gone. dont boast about the past, talk of present and future.

    @davidhindu, mate learn and watch the sport properly before commenting. Your comments make me laugh. England right now have the best pace attack in the world, and anyone would agree with that. and you call them schoolboys. Mate winning counts thats it, you indian supporters should be more ashamed to loose to a school boy team in that instance. Respect your oppenents mate. Your so called god "Tendulkar" cant face the pace and swing of schoolboy cricketer stuart broad, This further prooves that most of his mountain of runs was scored in the super flat pitches in india where the bowlers dont get any assistance from the pitch...

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 3:27 GMT

    India this, India that, THE world champion. This is the score from Bangladesh England Test series in 2010. I will let the score speak for itself.

    1st Test: England v Bangladesh at Lord's - May 27-31, 2010 England 505 and 163/2; Bangladesh 282 and 382 (f/o)

    2nd Test: England v Bangladesh at Manchester - Jun 4-6, 2010 England 419; Bangladesh 216 and 123 (f/o)

  • POSTED BY sawifan on | August 11, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus... i think you'll find that Ravi Bopara was actually born in ENG, so he is definitely ENGLISH. And Strauss and Prior moved to ENG at the ages of 6 and 11 respectively. So ENG hardly poached seasoned professionals. The ENG system made them and they see themselves as ENGLISH. Pietersen is a different story, but i don't see why people make such a fuss over it. I'm an Aussie and while yes i joked we lost the Ashes to 'South Africa A', it didn't mean i thought we didn't lose to a very good ENGLISH team. Australia currently has a Pakistan-born player in the test squad... so what?

  • POSTED BY ms.arjun on | August 11, 2011, 3:20 GMT

    England will play all four sessions in Day2 for sure...with definitely 3.5 runs a over...that puts them to 300 runs minimum plus the 84 added yesterday. That gives them a lead of 150 at least..even if they add another 100 runs tomorrow..a lead of 250 is just way too much for Indian batsmen at this moment..there is no way India is gonna win this test or draw..Its all over...we are moving to Oval with 3-0 England. A whitewash in the cards...Well played England..You deserve to be the No.1 side.

  • POSTED BY Aud_ on | August 11, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    Doesn't it annoy you when folks start questioning the NATIONALITY of players when their team is being beaten? As far as I am aware, Strauss was born in ZA to British Ex-Pat parents who went back to Britain for work reasons. He has a British passport and is British with BRITISH parents. Ravi Popara was BORN in North London to parents that have lived there for many, many years. I guess he is not a member of the multi-cultural British Society either?

    Can't be bothered to carry on any further

    I'll get me coat

  • POSTED BY GBH77 on | August 11, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    @ Sydney-Aus...

    In response: 1. Andrew Strauss (moved to England aged 6, therefore developed under the English system), 2 Jonathan Trott (British passport holder), 3 Ravi Bopara (born in Forest Gate, London...thats in England if you didnt know), 4 Matt Prior (British passport holder, moved to England aged 11, so again, learned his trade in England), 5 Kevin Pieterson (British passport holder). Whatever you may think about the England team, every single one of them has the right to play for the national team. And I thought it was us English who were supposed to be whingers!! :o)

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | August 11, 2011, 3:17 GMT

    Much to the delight of many the Indian team is being humiliated by a very solid England team who are determined to be @1 team in the world. I guess now that India is set to lose its # 1 ranking the world is a better place, for many. At least this will take the focus away from India for all those who love to bash India..

    Anyway no excuses what so ever and India is being outplayed completely. This Indian team but for two innings from Dravis is clueless. Dravid got a beauty from Bresnan. SRT you should have retired after the WC as u r only playing for ur 100th 100.

  • POSTED BY SLsupporter007 on | August 11, 2011, 3:13 GMT

    Add Morgan to the list, He is Irish. plus Ravi Bopara was born in England, so considered English and not Indian...

  • POSTED BY CiMP on | August 11, 2011, 3:12 GMT

    Another day of some individual efforts (Dhoni, Praveen) but nothing as a team has lead India down the hole. Indian bowlers are like lightning, not in pace, but their unpredictability as to when and where they will strike. Sreesanth 'B" (wayward version) bowled yesterday allowing Cook to get an eye in as he cd happily leave the balls alone. Forget about winning, to make a decent fight out of this Test India needs to show more resolve to work in partnerships - be it batsmen or bowlers.

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | August 11, 2011, 3:11 GMT

    @EverybodylovesSachin I just wonder what you excuse you will come up with when England does go to India and win again? Stop making excuses about conditions. If India are truly worthy to be ranked number one (with all their great players); then they should have the depth, professionalism, skill, experience etc, etc to adjust and lift their game to play on any surface/conditions and against any team. By the way, the surface didn't help the bowlers much yesterday. It was the England bowler's discipline not matched by India's batting discipline; that did it for England.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    GOD please coach team india,if duncan doesn't does that.Having coached england for so many years ,one would expect him to be great resource,I have no idea what he is doing with the team,win or loss we are with always with you team india,what we expect always for you is to fight,wining or loosing doesn't matter when you put a fight.We'd love to see more energy on the field,which seems to be lacking in this entire tour.

  • POSTED BY jfunk37 on | August 11, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus - can you explain how on earth Ravi Bopara is suppose to be 'foreign'? You might want to do a little research to back up your comments, otherwise you might look a bit silly... I'm English and support players that play for AND qualify for the English cricket team. I assume then that you will not cheering on Khawaja when he plays for Australia in the future?

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 2:42 GMT

    @Sydney-Aus, get your facts straight mate. Ravi Bopara is a foreign player playing for England is he? Did you assume that because of his Asian name? He was born in London...

    As for Strauss and Prior, yes they were born in SA but they grew up in England and have lived most of their lives there. Fair enough Trott and Pietersen made the move as adults (and already professional cricketers) but seriously, get over it. The qualification rules are the same for all cricketing countries and Australia have benefited from them in the past.

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | August 11, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    Sachin,Dravid Laxman.Gambhir..Dhoni..we love you..guys....let them have number one ranking..lert us see how long they keep it...you will get it back very soon one series does not mean anything..not yet though..

  • POSTED BY Fourhofthea on | August 11, 2011, 2:23 GMT

    Syd-Aus - Some basic facts mate: Ravi Bopara born London, England 26 years ago. Andrew Strauss moved to England when he was six - now 34. Matt Prior (English dad, SA mum), moved to England when he was 11, now 29. Whilst Pietersen (English mum, SA dad) and Trott (English ancestors) have more tenuous links, they both have British passports and chose to play for England. Can't see your problem mate - apart from the fact that England are now a bloody good team.

  • POSTED BY johnnymc1 on | August 11, 2011, 2:13 GMT

    To all the Indian fans commenting on the amount of South African players in the England team-ALL OF THE BOWLERS ARE ENGLISH- and it's the bowlers who keep ripping through your much hyped batting line up!

  • POSTED BY merchant187 on | August 11, 2011, 1:59 GMT

    Test cricket is boring anyways... 5 days long boring... T20 and ODI are the best

  • POSTED BY truebleue_cricfan on | August 11, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    Continuing from the last post.... Dhoni can play the short ball well, and can get runs if he decides to. Harbhajan is a waste of time in the team. Can counter attack and get a few runs, but again with his technique, cant be expected to play in challenging conditions. I am not even getting to his bowling. The others just make up the numbers.

    We need batsmen who an play in tough onditions without any trouble or shortcomings. Play the hook well, move the feet well, get behind the line. I believe Pujara, Kohli and Rahane could be the ones who an do that, having seen them play. They should be in the team when the current middle order decides to call it a day.

  • POSTED BY krazzyking on | August 11, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    Finally England discovers life...and i mean consistent life... they have often tottered to the edge of greatness in the past decade but often fell short. Took them ages to win the Ashes...but now they look more like a unit determined to win. They are the more powerful team and India is just messing it up. @Tram Yea, we indians will keep worshiping our team cause it is our team. Another day and the fellows you mentioned would be flaying your kind. Who the hell are you to comment against them? None of your batsmen could match up to the contribution of sachin or rahul or vvs to Test cricket. So watch it.

  • POSTED BY truebleue_cricfan on | August 11, 2011, 1:44 GMT

    Now we all can imagine what is likely to happen in the next test. Tendulkar, having got out poking outside off a few times this series will put away all his offside shots. I repeat, all. And then he will eke out a labourious 100 or more that will have no bearing on the match, and if any will be too slow for India to force a result which at one stage might be possible. And all experts will hail the innings as a masterpiece that required tremendous will power to consistently leave harmless balls pitched outside off, which in reality could have been put away for a boundary by any tailender.

    Not that I am picking on Sachin alone. This famed Indian middle order has serious shortcomings, Dravid excepted. Laxman is inonsistent and technically deficient. Gets out the same way often and looks surprised at the result often. Raina has poor technique against the swinging ball and short ball. Yuvraj has poor technique against the swinging ball, short ball and spin. To be continued.

  • POSTED BY Prakul_Chandra on | August 11, 2011, 1:37 GMT

    Lets talk about Dhoni.. he has been severely criticized for his dismal performance so far.. I agree he is not the most tecnically sound batsman.. he is not the most elegant of batsmen but the fact that he scored the runs that he did counts for something.. I am truly disappointed with the Sachin scenario..a) people on cricinfo who are commenting negatively about Sachin's performance and b) Sachin's performance.. All of Sachin's critics let me ask you this question.. think about your favorite test cricketer.. did this gentleman perform in every series that he played ??? was there not one series where he underperformed.. I think I am flabbergasted when people question Sachin's commitment towards the game and India..I am stark raving mad when people talk negatively about his batting.. there is a reason why he has the most test runs under his belt.. HE IS THAT GOOD..

  • POSTED BY Sydney-Aus on | August 11, 2011, 1:33 GMT

    Do you know how many foreign players are playing for England. 1. Andrew Strauss, 2 Jonathan Trott, 3 Ravi Bopara, 4 Matt Prior, 5 Kevin Pieterson. All of them are (except Ravi) are from South Africa. I am just wondering, are Indians playing against South Africa or England or South Africa and England put together. Secondly if most of them are from South Africa then why all English fans are jumping up and down on the back of South African talent....

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    No excuses for India. Sehwag, Sachin and Laxman fell to nothing shots if one can call them. Dravid and Gambhir showed some resistance but were out to unplayable balls. It is not so much the loss of the no 1 position as a Test side, but the supremacy of their pace bowlers bowling under familiar conditions and inexperience and lack of enough pace by the Indian bowlers has made it a no contest series. NO EXCUSES.

  • POSTED BY Prakul_Chandra on | August 11, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    All those people who are suggesting that we should have not played Sehwag right away.. I beg to disagree..he is a seasoned campaigner and India needed the fire power in their batting line up.. he did not deliver that is something that has already been criticized heavily..he does have another innings to prove his critics wrong..Now people who are criticizing Suresh Raina: he is an upcoming star for Indian cricket.. he has performed well for India in the limited overs version and T-20.. I think the fact that the Indian think tank is persisting with him instills faith in these youngsters.. granted he has let them down but this is what cricket is all about.. it is a learning process.. nobody becomes a hero overnight.. it is with grit and determination that one should go about doing ones job..The Indian bowling has been dismal and the English batsmen negotiated them well... and counterattacked.. kudos to them.. will not take credit away from them.. lets see how day # 2 unfolds

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | August 11, 2011, 1:15 GMT

    India have used every excuse in the book for why they haven't performed but in the end they aren't good enough in these conditions to challenge England. The magic of Tendulkar and Zaheer saved a drawn series in South Africa but those 2 can't save you every time. Tendulkar is looking more and more an old man out there and the rest of the team isn't much better. Dravid the only batsman worthy of a spot in this Indian team right now.

  • POSTED BY Arsalanthechamp on | August 11, 2011, 1:10 GMT

    pakistan won the patch due to their strong pace attack of amir asif and riaz and i think india lacked in their pace bowling...

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | August 11, 2011, 1:10 GMT

    @Davidhindu Sour grapes mate - It's eating you up inside that England are streets ahead of India this time - professionalism, preparedness, fitness, pride and the list goes on. The stats that make a team top or bottom in the rankings happen over a period of time and do not lie - and India is about to be overtaken.

  • POSTED BY peterss on | August 11, 2011, 1:02 GMT

    Mukund should have been playing in place of raina. Time for the big three to retire one by one. Since they are not in top form, they should retire and give the youngsters a chance to build the Indian future.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    India is again looking to go nowhere. This pitch appears to be a batsman's paradise and once again our big guns have failed when they matter. The best hope is for a draw but I dont see our batsman scoring 600 even in a flat wicket against disciplined bowling.

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | August 11, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    Tendulkar we hail you..Dravid we hail you ..Sehwag we hail you...Laxman we hail you .Dhoni we hail you..we worship you..we have seen what you have done for Indian cricket.. you are the best and have great reocrds than any English player today..we will forgive you for this series..let them have it.not yet...we will be back..I hope you read my message..

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | August 11, 2011, 0:45 GMT

    Team India..we are with you always...you are the best in the business..this English are in good form and they are playing at home so take it easy..we beat them in world cup..you guys are world champion..you guys will be back very soon...take it easy...take revange when they come to India..we will see how they do it..

  • POSTED BY Quddus-Mamu on | August 11, 2011, 0:42 GMT

    Indian team has decided not play in Zimbabwe and Bangladesh until 2020 because Indian team thinks they are too strong for Zim and BD. I think, now they can change their mind. They should only play against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Ireland and Kenya.

  • POSTED BY on | August 11, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    I still predict that india will remain at no.1 after this series which is heading to 2-2 or 2-1. remember just one day gone infavour of england.If india restricts the hosts under 300 india is going to win this test.Remember anything can happen in test cricket. Having said that i must praise team england for their dominant and aggressive cricket against one of the best batting sides in the world.cheers team england.

  • POSTED BY loyalIndianfan on | August 11, 2011, 0:33 GMT

    All eleven players need to be in the"zone". That means concentrating using all their skill and determination to get throught session by session. I blame the "coach for he should be pointing it out that their "talent" is'nt going to get them out of jail.They should have steely determination and goals.Instead they are just going through the motions seemingly disinterested in the process. Fletcher should inspire them to do great things.What kind of speech does he give them when they come back to the pavillion....."okay boys you did your best"~ Fight harder after all you are representing your country!They can still win this test but bowlers need to make EVERY ball threatening just like the English did. Come on India!

  • POSTED BY crickeyt on | August 11, 2011, 0:17 GMT

    Expect Sachin Tendulkar to get out cheaply again in the second innings here and India go 3-0 down. Then he will duly score his century in the meaningless fourth Test, be hailed as the best batsman in the world and the Indian media will forget all about the hammering received over a month.

  • POSTED BY Principle on | August 10, 2011, 23:47 GMT

    Indians have gotten too hyped both fans and players alike. Thus their game has fallen apart because of arrogance which leads to loss of respect for the game and their opponents which finally leads to mistakes. Looking for something to blame, blame the IPL. Apparently your players respected it over country and now country is paying the price. In another 4-5 years India will struggle to win test matches and will be at the bottom of the table. Let's hope when England become #1 they don't make the same mistake.

  • POSTED BY big_al_81 on | August 10, 2011, 23:45 GMT

    It's good to see some Indian fans starting to give England the respect they deserve. But frankly, there are some embarrassingly ignorant comments. Several commenters are confusing T20s and ODIs with Test matches (e.g. Dolce Reveur), others are just plain disrespectful unless they're poorly delivered jokes (e.g. davidhindu). That's a shame as 'SRT' has been given huge ovations every time he's taken the field to bat - good to see the English crowds showing respect to a great of the game even though he's had a poor run by his standards. As for the constant bleating on about Indian vs English conditions just ponder how well England did in Oz and you'll realise that they can perform outstandingly against major teams overseas. But yes, that's only true for Test matches and yes, since that's the greatest challenge in cricket we'll settle for it.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | August 10, 2011, 23:42 GMT

    1 million srilankan island can find a malinga , 1.3 billion india can't find single fast bowler past 60 years. if you ask sashtri , he will say we do not have talent? May be he is only look in his house. :)

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    We attained the rank by simply playing in India, so we can't boast number one. Anyway it may go to 5th position or more after Australia series

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    Just one simple equation India's Ex-factor = Golden duck

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 23:35 GMT

    It is sad to find that none of my blogs are published. If Indian batsman cant score heft runs, play your natural innings and get out rather than succumbing to pressure till it gets you out. If Praveen Kumar can face short pitched stuffs without any issues why can't the other batsman show courage. Initially, he tried everything to play on his body and thereafter, he has played shots which even our frontline batsman failed to produce that kind of stroke making. What a waste of talent this indian team is, if you are out of form, attack and score quick runs and get out. You never know, when the table turns upside down - bowlers dominate the batsman till you allow them - once you start attacking no bowler can be as good if you make him think to bowl differently.

    English bowlers are not that great, it is the Indian batsman who allow them to dominate by bogging down with drooping heads.

    if you have to score 20 odds runs and waste 60 deliveries then, it is better you score faster

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 23:28 GMT

    What critics of Indian team, what did MSDhoni did wrong today. You people say he does not have a technique to sustain his form. He is a hard hitting batsman and no one can match his abilities of striking the ball the way he does. We should appreciate today's innings that he rose to the occasion and scored so nicely today.

    Forget technique, what all other Indian batsman scored though they have a strong defensive technique and some 40-50000 runs on their back. When it matters, they always fail to contribute.

    They come to the crease with such negative mindset that they totally get into a shell and try to survive on the field. Best way is to attack playing your best cricketing shots you are capable of.

    Today dravid wasted 60 balls to score 20. Had he scored rapidly alongwith Gambhir, the pressure of scoring at a consistent rate would have eased out the pressure. With Dravid totally playing the blocking game, it was left to Gambhir to do all the hitting.

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | August 10, 2011, 23:23 GMT

    I always expected England to prevail in this series after they beat us comfortably in Australia but I have been astounded at how easily they have dismantled India. India are so far off the mark in every department its quite shocking. India are outclassed in every area at the moment, batting, spin and seam. Australia has always had a tough time with India the last few years (Although we have beaten them in India while they are yet to beat us in Aus) but I think that the Indian team is finished now. They have some great players but their spirit is gone. After this series India will be beaten much more regularly.

  • POSTED BY Nerk on | August 10, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    England are playing well. India lacked preparation. Having said that, India have had chances to grab hold of this series a few times, yet they have let them go. Their fielding has been slack, their batting indisciplined, their spin ineffective, but it has been their pace attack that has shone through. Now, it hasn't been the greatest pace attack ever, there are still far too many loose ones, but they are still young guns and will grow from this experience. As for the doomsayers, there are still four days of cricket left, plenty of time for an Indian comeback. Either way, England have played so well this series, proving their Ashes success was no fluke.

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | August 10, 2011, 23:16 GMT

    Hail Tendulkar, Hail Gambhir, hail Sehwag, hail VVS, hail Dravid, We worship you guys...We know you are tired.but you all are greats...one series does not mean anything.by the way England is only good in their home pitches...we know you are not into it...let England come to India.. we will take back our spot...

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | August 10, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    As expected Gautam Gambhir and Sehwag, with virtually no preparation, were absolutely no saviour for India and, weather permitting, they will go on to lose this series 0-4. If they don't swing the axe between now and the tests here in Oz a similar result will occur. Tendulkar should retire now while he still has a scrap of respectability left. More players like Dravid need to be found. He will dig in, even if it's the second innings. England deserve to be #1, their bowling attack is far superior. Would love to see them play a series in SA with this lineup.

  • POSTED BY OliverWebber on | August 10, 2011, 22:51 GMT

    I was absolutely thrilled by England's performance today, but let's not forget that at a similar stage in the 2nd test, positions were reversed: India 70-odd for 1, in response to England's first innings of 221 (only reached after a serious tail-wag catalysed by Broad). And look what happened there! So England supporters shouldn't get too complacent. Credit to Dhoni for a superb knock, bringing India back from the brink, but also great credit to England's bowlers for once again heaping the pressure on the Indian batsmen. Incidentally, I'm not sure which England team davidhindu is talking about - but evidently not the one that is unbeaten in 8 series...! As for the test rankings, I think we're about to enter an interesting period when 2-3 teams battle for dominance. England have great qualities but also some frailties, and S Africa are still a force to be reckoned with. Much more fun than when first WI then Aus dominated for years and years! Bring it on - and long live test cricket.

  • POSTED BY mensan on | August 10, 2011, 22:49 GMT

    When Somerset and Northamtonshire are hammering the Indians, there is certainly something wrong. But nobody took notice. Certainly poor preparation for the Indian team for this much hyped series. Has been proving a flop. Even a weaker Pakistan team won a test against England last year.

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | August 10, 2011, 22:35 GMT

    Hail Tendulkar, Hail Gambhir, hail Sehwag, hail VVS, hail Dravid, keep worshiping your heros ... this is what you will see.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | August 10, 2011, 22:31 GMT

    TEAM INDIA had plan A: " We will beat you easily,blah blah blah 3 - 0, 4 - 0." Plan B: "We are just slow starters, we will bounce back and then beat you easily." Plan C: "Sehwag will return, and then we will beat you easily." Well, that lasted all of one ball, didn't it? Search for a PLAN D in Oval Test. Give more respect to opposition.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | August 10, 2011, 22:22 GMT

    To add something constructive - I feel today that the pitch did nowhere near as much as anyone expected it to and England preyed on a bit of insecurity as much as anything. I thought Strauss showed he has some way to go as a captain in the Dhoni/Kumar partnership, but the way they played also put into perspective how well England had done to restrict the top order, and how poorly India batted. Strauss and Cook played beautifully. Looking good for England, but for some reason that just makes me all the more nervous!

  • POSTED BY Iyer on | August 10, 2011, 22:19 GMT

    Please dont think dhoni is back to form or anything. He is still technically weak, and can never prosper in overseas conditions in test matches. Period! Today he played like a tailender, slogging the ball. He was just lucky to add few runs, by no means this innings could justify his place in this test team. He is a good ODI player for now. Similarly dont write-off sachin or laxman or dravid based on this failure. They have sound technique, and are currently just out of form. There is a difference between their failure and dhonis, rainas, and harbhajans. The latter lacks technique. Harbhajan cannot spin the ball, unless the pitch helps the turn. it is his inherent weakness. he can never overcome that. Similarly dhoni and raina are made for ODI's, hit out or get out sorta batsman. Cannot play test matches in testing conditions. Please realize this. Dont play them as if there is none to replace them. Give chance to others and see what we can get out of others.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | August 10, 2011, 22:16 GMT

    Davidhindu - so how bad does that make India then?

  • POSTED BY JPalocaren on | August 10, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    Not shocked at the results. The thrill of one day and IPL attracts viewers and is popular amongst young andold in India.Though Test cricket is cricket in its purest form, few people have the patience to watch these games over 5 days.India should be happy to have achieved top ranking with the limited bowling resources we have in tests. England deserve to be the top ranked team based on recent performances. However its not something to gloat about.You take out the South African born cricketers from the English team and will know where they stand.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 10, 2011, 22:06 GMT

    the bcci would be better then having millions of $ and paying $2.2 million to certain ipl players. why dont they do similar payment to their test players so the younger guys can come into ipl and make say $100,000 which for a 6 week stint is excellent payment. and then they can see with improvement they can go on to test cricket and make the sorts of monies they would have earned in previous ipl years. that way a guy who thinks he has the potential to bowl 90 mph does it in tests not 20/20games. it also means the older test players can be eased out to let the younger guys in. the indian batters enbloc, have played to long which has damaged more up and coming players. im not sure about the indian pitches they need to have good even covering of grass and hard so that the fast bowlers come into the game they get rewarded. then the spinners can come into their own. it may take a few years. but u will get the befifit when u tour abroad. dpk

  • POSTED BY LineNLength on | August 10, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    Well done to England! They are playing like lions and deserve to be #1. Here's a different question - When India win on the flatter slower subcontinent pitches, commentators talk about home advantage and how India is only good at home (though their recent overseas record doesn't support that). However when other teams (e.g. England, Australia) play well at home, we hear of no such talk. Sounds like double principle. Admittedly teams have generally become better at playing on Indian pitches due to IPL and other tournaments. I would like to see Indian players get similar experience on seaming English wickets or bouncy Aussie pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 21:55 GMT

    Same old story. England will bat and pile up the runs and bowl out India and go 3 up. In fact England is on course to win all four Tests, a whitewash? Unless India can bat and bat on they cannot stave off defeat. West Indies had India cornered in the First Test in the Caribbean but they could not execute the victory because of the lack of WI firepower and batting. What England is doing is to expose the weaknesses of India in a big way. Poor batting and a bowling that lacks penetration.

  • POSTED BY Herath-UK on | August 10, 2011, 21:40 GMT

    Another pathetic display by Indian top order,in fact meek surrender without any gusty innings;Dhoni's innings was too late to make a significant impact.Except for one disasterous session in Cardiff in other innings Lankan top order did significantly well;Dilshan's superb 190 odd was cut short only by injury and Sanga showed good mettle in the third match.This is India's third match but just Dravid's contribution to showcase,not for a team claiming to be the top team Ranil Herath - Kent

  • POSTED BY nomikshah on | August 10, 2011, 21:40 GMT

    England is not going to get a series from India in quite some time if they dislodge the Indians from the statistically gained #1 slot.

  • POSTED BY davidhindu on | August 10, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    Its such a shame that the best team in the world is losing to the worst team (England) of all the teams. This English team is no better than a school boy team who were never serious international players anyway. This Indian team is clearly tired and a bit worn out. Nothing magical about the England team here. India is playing badly and is in its poorest form since decades.

    Just because some school boys get some swing on the ball, doesnt mean they are international competetors. Funny to see the England supporter comments here but Englands 15 mins of fame will soon be over.

  • POSTED BY Pritt32 on | August 10, 2011, 21:37 GMT

    India as test cricket nation is looking incredibly weak. It is hard to understand why they are crowned no 1. They do not deserve to be no 1. I looked at previous results and it has been overall grim picture, as side struggled in their batting and bowling in South Africa tour and an average series in West Indies. The current tour of England is turning out the worst tour, as Indian batman ability to play pace bowling raises concerns and the form of key players are under scrutiny. India realistic hope is rain, as there are forecasts. It is just too painful to watch them play by getting hammered by England. I think India management need to seriously sit down and make drastic changes like investing in new players through academies and set up a bowling department to nurture talent and potential. The IPL should be scrapped. Quality of Indian cricket will not improve unless drastic actions are immediately taken. It is falling on deaf ears and too laid back.

  • POSTED BY Silverbails on | August 10, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    I absolutely agree with Bang_La's assessment. Pathetic batting, and it looks like the bowling is as poor as ever, particularly on overseas tours. Apart from Dravid, of course, they all think they're playing in the IPL. The demands of Test cricket are COMPLETELY different from those of ODI's or T20's. The Indian cricketers are also hopeless against the swinging and seaming ball, which is the HALLMARK of the truly great cricketer. Anyone can play on those flat featherbeds of the Indian sub - continent, as I've said before!! 4 - 0 now looks pretty certain....Sehwag or not. And, without Zaheer, the bowling looks toothless and directionless....

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    This lame team is no.1 for the last 2 years. How poor is Eng then to be no 2? lol

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 10, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    The comments in this thread don't seem to be very balanced. India is a good side, as they have proved over several years. Dhoni played a magnificent captain's innings when his side needed it, but hardly anyone has congratulated him. Gautam and Rahul played well together. England has a very good seam attack, the best all-round attack in the world, and they used the conditions well. The wicket showed signs during the Dhoni-Kumar stand that it was flattening out and so it proved when England batted; this was a good toss to win. India have an uphill task ahead, because unless they can make a big breakthrough tomorrow morning, England will get a substantial lead. The Indian fans need to realize that this is not a great India side playing badly, but a good India side playing against a better England side. As for winning in India- I can't wait for 2012!

  • POSTED BY yocasi on | August 10, 2011, 21:32 GMT

    Cricket's an unpredictable game, but I don't see any way back for India. You look at Sachin et al and there's zero confidence in that unit. England are just too good for India at the moment. The Indian batting machine will come good in the dead rubber, when all the pressure is off.There's still the odd good innings left in the three Indian grand-dads, but they no longer pose a consistent threat to any semi decent bowling attack. I still see 4-0 on the cards, with this test going no further than lunch on the 4th day.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | August 10, 2011, 21:29 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur. You are talking - but no-one is listening.

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | August 10, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    There are only 3 things that need to be fixed up for India. They are overhyped, overpaid and over there!

  • POSTED BY The_other_side on | August 10, 2011, 21:27 GMT

    Virender Sehwag- All hopes on dodgy shoulder??

    I would like to think ATLAS SHRUGGED

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 21:23 GMT

    I just checked the archive and found out that the Man Of the Series in India's tour Down Under 1999 was SRT. He scored 278 in 6 innings 1 ton and 2 half centuries. RTP scored 375 in 5 innings (2 no) 2 tons and 1 half century. RTP's average 125 and SRT's was 46.33. Why Tendulkar got the honours? Can any one plz suggest? http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1999-2000/IND_IN_AUS/STATS/IND_IN_AUS_NOV1999-FEB2000_TEST_AVS.html

  • POSTED BY enderw on | August 10, 2011, 21:17 GMT

    This Indian team is a disgrace, not one of them can claim their place except Dravid and PK. Probably time for a wholesale change in team.

  • POSTED BY TopC on | August 10, 2011, 21:13 GMT

    What a joke! A 4-0 whitewash appears almost certain. Bring on the new era: Bangladesh vs India; in the 5 Test Series of the Century; 1-0 to Bangla, with 4 no result matches. hahahahaha!

  • POSTED BY cyniket on | August 10, 2011, 21:11 GMT

    I don't understand the modern preference for defensive fields when a batsmen is shepherding a tailender. In the last two matches, we've seen dhoni and strauss go on the defensive at the first sign of a few attacking shots despite having the opposition in serious trouble. These captains have test standard attacks at their disposal, they should back them to take wickets. If the opposition decide to chance their arm, then make sure you can punish them if they make a mistake. Is it a lack of courage on the part of the captains? a player of dhoni or prior's calibre comes in with some attacking intent and the captains start worrying about boundaries, rather than thinking about taking wickets.

  • POSTED BY Indiafan_from_Montreal on | August 10, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    Well after missing test cricket for 39 years while in the US and Canada I finally got to see the test at Lord's (days 3 and 4) and the first day at Edgbaston. Lord's had its moments and the thrill of seeing test cricket live after years of only following it on cricinfo updates was great. Edgbaston, however, has been ugly and will get uglier. First of all: no excuses, whining, etc. England are number 1 without a doubt. Their bowling is fantastic and the depth is unbelievable, the batting has fired on all cylinders, their preparation and coaching has been impeccable and the desire and intensity is palpable. India has some great players but they are not performing in this series. What is to be done should be worked out by someone more knowledgable than I (not "me"!). What annoys me slightly is the whining of some of the Indian fans, the denial of others and the despair of still others. Sure, India will lose 4-0 and end up being ranked 4 or 5 but they will arise again some day.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | August 10, 2011, 21:04 GMT

    @Jashua Johnson:That England bowling was average was clearly proven by #7 & #8 batsmenwith an 85 run partnership. Dhoni smashed Anderson straight & high over his head for a SIX. That is enough indication for anyone who knows cricket that doing that to a fast bowler is not easy. Dhoni hit 2 more sixers of other 2 English seamers too. It was just unfortunate that Sehwag got out - very strange caught behind on a thinest edge - UDR. Otherwise he would have shown what England's bowlers are bowling in a more clear manner than Dhoni. Most of the Indian fans are upset because the Indian batsmen are getting out to irresponsible shots. Only Dravid was beaten by a good delivery.The rest were either unlucky (e.g. Sehwag) or played poor shots ( Sachin, Laxman & Raina). This Indian team on this pitch against this bowling is capable of getting 450 but due to whatever reason they did not. This is what cheeses the Indian Fans off - not rising to the occasion with top 4 ranked world batsmen in the side

  • POSTED BY The_boundary_lurker on | August 10, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    Take a bow Mr Fletcher, you've done it again!

    Touring team arrives unfit, with limited preparation and full of vainglorious attitude, and proceed to get absolutely mullered. Sound familiar? Shades of Ashes 2006, methinks.

    Seriously though, the BCCI and the Indian players need to have a serious think about their priorities. Even for a truly magnificent batsman like Tendulkar, playing the whole of IPL and then skipping the WI series smacks a little of arrogance. And imagine if Sehwag hadn't knackered himself in IPL and arrived fully fit and ready to play? Same goes for Zaheer.

    I am full agreement with the poster who noted that the team with the fewest IPL players (England) is playing the best Test cricket at the moment. Although most cricketers pay lip service to the primacy of Test cricket, it seems the majority are happy to neglect the longer form of the game for T20 riches.

    Only one side in this series is fully committed to Tests, and it shows. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail

  • POSTED BY khiladisher on | August 10, 2011, 20:59 GMT

    THIS IS THE END OF AN ERA IN INDIAN CRICKET-WISH THE SELECTORS CHOOSE PUJARA AND ROHIT SHARMA FOR THE AUSSIE TOUR AND ALSO RETIRE SACHIN FROM CRICKET{HE HAS ONCE AGAIN LET US DOWN AS HE HAS DONE MANY TIMES BEFORE DROP SACHIN -SAVE INDIAN CRICKET

  • POSTED BY surge0017 on | August 10, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    Test Cricket rankings should be based on point system, just like college football (not soccer) in USA. If you beat lower ranking team by huge margin you get less points than beating a higher ranking team in a smaller margin. Also higher points if you win away from home than at home. Beating Bangladesh or West indies cannot be weighed the same as beating England or any other high ranking Test team.

  • POSTED BY wheelspoke on | August 10, 2011, 20:54 GMT

    @Daztaylor - I agree. This current english team would be able to beat the SA team in my opinion be it in ENGLAND on SA, if the form continues. You need a strong bowling attack to win test matches - more so than batting, and this ENGLISH team has a good mix. If anything the batting may may struggle against Steyn a bit, but overall should be a good series to watch..

  • POSTED BY MartinC on | August 10, 2011, 20:48 GMT

    For those saying India should play 5 bowlers, with Zaheer injured they can't find 4 who are test class in English conditions let alone 5. That's the difference in this series Englands attack versus India's - not really a contest.

    The real test for England will be playing against India in India as many are saying and against SA - though we did draw with SA in SA 18 months ago. India are going to have to find better spin bowlers than we have seen this series though to trouble England even in India.

  • POSTED BY ian_ghose on | August 10, 2011, 20:46 GMT

    Looks like the 'champs' are taking a beating elsewhere too! Italy just beat Spain 2-1....could have so easily been 4-1!!!

  • POSTED BY Clive_Dunn on | August 10, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    Interesting to see Mishra turning it so early in the game, perhaps there is a way back after all. Don't see it coming from the seamers as the pitch is a bit of a pudding. Still, England in a strong position but India fans shouldn't give up so soon. Time to fight like cornered tigers !

  • POSTED BY india_will_rise on | August 10, 2011, 20:42 GMT

    It is truly disheartening, as an Indian fan, that we are getting a beating. But what we have to guard against is making losing a habit. This should be considered a one-off series loss and prepare for the Australia series in December. We should not forget that the English team has not lost a series in england since 2001. Also they were beaten by Australia 5-0 in 2006-2007 ashes.They have done very well to reach where they are currently. What India has to guard against is to be reduced to the ranks of pakistan, NZ, West Indies after the retirement of SRT, Dravid and Laxman. BCCI needs to get serious about India's test future and scrap the IPL. TV ratings for IPL 4 where the lowest this year.

  • POSTED BY cricket_for_all on | August 10, 2011, 20:42 GMT

    I think that India now better to consider more matches with ZIM and BAN. Otherwise we will see so much one sided games. I don't think any of the test teams except ZIM and BAN will be crashed by ENG like this. Seems that this is going to be innings defeat.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 20:41 GMT

    calm down everybody. England were in very much the same position as we were in day 1 of the last test. Didn't they win by a massive margin. We can also do it

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | August 10, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    Doesn't matter whether the Indian players are in form or not they don't know how to fight. Steve Waugh was a batsman of very limited abillity and very rarely made runs against decent bowlers but he was such a competitor he made more runs than someone of his abiility should have. The Indian batsmen individually are far more capable than Steve Waugh in terms of technique but they simply lack his will to fight. Application application application is what they need now.

  • POSTED BY PDV1 on | August 10, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    England have been impressive but until they beat South Africa they can't be seen as the true number 1. The last time they played the Proteas they hung on grimly for a draw. It's one thing making runs against average bowlers like Sharma but try facing Steyn and Morkel. India have been disgracefully bad. Worst team to ever make it to number 1.

  • POSTED BY SanjivAwesome on | August 10, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    England are in great form. This form is what is required to be No.1. It is the sort of form India had 3 years ago.

  • POSTED BY jupiterlaw on | August 10, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    Are they (India) really the # 1 teeam in the world? If they are, they better start behaving as such.

  • POSTED BY anuAddict on | August 10, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    NO defeat is final until conceded. Some Indian fans have not conceded yet, but Indian team will ensure fans concede defeat since they believe try until you succeed (to make sure your fans spirits are ground to dust). Before they started they seemed to have gone on defensive, failed Raina still in, no 5 bowlers. All specialists pointed out that Indian bowling hasn't looked like capable of getting 20 wickets, but team management did nothing about it. If 6 batsmen in 4 (now 5) couldn't manage 300, then with 2-0 behind my strategy will be to aim for 300 as target with 5+1 batsmen (including Dhoni and excluding RAINA- he should NEVER EVER play test cricket in his life) and make sure I have firepower to get opposition out around 275. I have always believed Dhoni is a good pep talker, cool exterior but really no positive leader as media seems to interpret from his lack of reaction. When going gets tough, tough gets going, and its anyone but Dhoni or Sir SRT. Mediocrity at its best

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | August 10, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    Was Kumar foolish to refus an armguard when he knew he was getting and going to be peppered with short-pitched stuff and cannot play it. Would it not have made sense for Dhoni to face the pace by refusing 1s and 3s and let Kumar face Swann by only taking 2s. You saw Strauss' and the bowlers' frustration when Kumar and Dhoni went for their shots - they didn't really like it and that's something the top order batsmen should take note of. If they can see off the new ball and then attack without throwing their wickets away, they can expose the weaknesses in the England attack. England will be found out when SAfrica visit and don't forget India have had England in difficult positions in each of the 1st 2 tests. Given that Sachin opted to rest the WIndies tour having to decided to play IPL straight after the WC his form is a big concern.

  • POSTED BY girdoc1 on | August 10, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    It is a poor performance by India, all prime players are out of form and rest are injured. Its very unfortunate for India a great team has gone out of form, all at the same time. But just one performance shouldn't take the enormous success they have achieved in last few years. But equally full credit to England, played great cricket. Well does it not make test cricket more interesting - as more teams are in top positions. This is good for test cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    @miketurney - not questioning Englands prowes, this unit looks really good, but were those wins in home conditions or away? I am sure they way they are playing they deserve no 1 place and possibly they will get there after this series. After that they need to win outside English conditions as well to maintain it. A series in subcontinent is coming and if I remember correctly then England didn't do very well in last series under KP. I don't buy the "Flat track bully" concept. It is subcontinent condition, a different climate. Why we should be critical about Indian batsmen because of there deficiency against swing bowling in overcast conditions while English and Australians struggles against good spin bowling in a subcontinent pitch? BTW congratulations to English team!

  • POSTED BY gothetaniwha on | August 10, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    Now that Zimbabwe has beaten Bangladesh ,they are ready to take on the next team above them INDIA !!! .

  • POSTED BY demon_bowler on | August 10, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    Anyone can have a slump of form with the bat or ball, but for a whole team to continually field as poorly as India does is shabby in the extreme. Hands in pockets, poor body language, fielders giving up on chasing the ball long before it hits the ropes -- get a grip, India, and show some pride.

  • POSTED BY kingishere on | August 10, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    rThis has been an age old problem with Indian team selection. They select players who perform in certain version of the game for other version. Take the case with Raina he is a good T20 or One day player. He is selected to play a test match in english condition vs a much potent english attack. This was similar when Ravi Shastri was asked to open in the 1992 world cup in Australia because he could survive longer without adding anything to scoreborad be it runs or wicket the result was he use to play 87 balls and make 22 odd runs. Raina is a very talented cricketer but not meant for test cricket in english conditions. There are a lot of talented players who perform in Ranji Trophy atleast give them chance. Only Mukund has been selected as a test specialist then give him chance in all the matches. When Australia selects a player for a series they provide ample opportunities to perform before they drop him.

  • POSTED BY lankaforyou on | August 10, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    Please take a look at one of the test match score card between bangladesh and england played in Lord's 2010 and u can see a england win but a bangladesh fight... India forgot a basic rule "EVEN IF U GO DOWN, GO DOWN FIGHTING"

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-bangladesh-2010/engine/match/426401.html

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 20:11 GMT

    Actually England went into this match already as the number 1 Test side. They had WON the two matches necessary, as the first two matches in the series. This only changes IF India WIN at least one of the remaining two matches, and win more of those two than England.

    In other words, England are ranked number 1, and if India want that back, then they have to win matches to get it back.

    (Which looks pretty unlikely. Can't bat, can't bowl, can't field, looks like many of them just want to go back home).

  • POSTED BY khiladisher on | August 10, 2011, 20:08 GMT

    Sri lanka played much better than india-{the indian team is supposed to be the biggest joke in england right now-this comes from a hard core indian fan,who feels that he and his country have been let down by these millionaire paper tigers. Just look at their body language today when fielding,it looked as if they have come on tourist visa to enjoy England weather. The indian public are simmering with rage,its not loosing that makes a bad taste but the attitude and body language and lack of pride in playing for your country that rankles.

  • POSTED BY Naveed85 on | August 10, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    England deserves no.1 position.. India can only become no.1 position by beating bangladesh ha ha sachin still wating for his 100 centuries record ..he is playing for records

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    I have written time and again that SACHIN TENDULKAR needs to make adjustment for seaming conditions....................He should play every ball considering it to be aimed at middle stump. eg for a ball pitching outside off stump play it considering it to be aimed at middle stump i.e. inswinger so if it does turn out to be inswinger you will middle it and if it turns out to be outswinger you will miss it by big margin so no harm done.

  • POSTED BY East_West on | August 10, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    Wonder who is the DADDY now? We have no clue how to bat and bowl but we are #1. Even a kid cannot say that we belong there!! England got us good..exactly where they want us to be!! They are playing like #1 team whereas we are playing like Associates! We all know that Sehwag cannot play but our so-called "Indian Cricinfo" writers talk about him as the saviour and the Sehwag factor! We have the usual pair of openers now but we still could not deliver!! Let me guess! We are still in the warmup zone or our so-called greatest bowler Zaheer is absent!! Where is our bench strength?? If we are #1, we just can't depend on Sehwags or Zaheers, etc..Let us enjoy that we WERE ONCE #1, and not any more!! No one is going to step up! We are bunch of slackers and sit on the past laurels!

  • POSTED BY Amsyrocker on | August 10, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    @Iyer - Why Munkund, Raina are in the team are because of CSK spport from Cheeka and Dhoni, both don't derserve place as Mukund failed 4 times in a row and Raina is weak in short pitch technique, where d hell does Hindi or Tamil comes ???

  • POSTED BY John_the_equilibrium_Nash on | August 10, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    I feel India's test status should be revoked.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | August 10, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    @Bhiku, good point. I also think that India should have played 5 bowlers and not rush Sehwag back into the team. They should have shown faith in the abilities of their great batsmen and send a message to the English camp that they are looking at a win and not just a draw. Yes, it would have added more pressure on the batsmen but these are not ordinary batsmen - you have at least two all-time greats in Dravid and Sachin and one very special player in Laxman. With 5 bowlers, it would be less pressure and workload on the young bowlers who have performed admirably in a crisis.

    @mak102480, isn't that a cause for celebration? Beating India in a series after 15 years, home or away. BTW, the series is not won or lost yet; so, relax:-)

    Dhoni's hitting was awesome. However, I think Strauss panicked too fast and spread his field. He should have continued to attack and the bowlers should have bowled the same line and length that they bowled to the rest.

  • POSTED BY citizenkc on | August 10, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    I wish all this talk about no. 1 would end. It's a huge distraction from the main point: a mediocre team is being beaten by a bloody good one. England is better in every single category. Only two players on the Indian side have shown up thus far: Dravid and Praveen (who has plugged away, if nothing else). India's batsmen have shown neither skill nor patience. They have failed the test of playing the swinging bowl and they are physically unfit and tired. It is no coincidence that the best team in the world now has the fewest players in the IPL (Morgan and Pietersen), while India's much heralded IPL players (Raina being the best example) demonstrate that they are incapable of playing test cricket at the highest level. Our players have gotten used to playing on dead pitches against mediocre IPL bowlers (most IPL teams have 1 or 2 good bowlers who bowl 24 balls each); this is no way to be a professional cricketer. A circus entertainer, perhaps, but not a cricketer!

  • POSTED BY theguynextdoor77 on | August 10, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    This is absolutely pathetic performance by the Indian team. We have played 2 Test Matches + 2 warm up games so they can't even make excuses of not being prepared. This reminds me of the tour of 99 to Australia where we were walloped 3 - 0. Never in the last 6 - 8 years I have remembered the Indian team so completely outclassed. As an Indian, I was over the moon with the world cup triumph, but this has just exposed the reality that the Indian team cannot play genuine swing bowling. And this was the same team which held SA for a 1 - 1 draw not too long back. I'm sure all the Indian supporters out there are cursing our team which they truly deserve!

  • POSTED BY sports99 on | August 10, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    You can reach number one ranking with your batting unit, but you cannot stay there long enough without good bowling unit.

  • POSTED BY DONinSA on | August 10, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Indian team is just relying on individual performances. They don't look like playing as a team. They need some kind of performance to lift them up. Can't see any bowler doing that, it has to be the batsmen. They need a big partnership, can't c other than VVS, Rahul and Gautum doing that. Hope India will make a match out of it. Cheers.

  • POSTED BY miketurney on | August 10, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Dolce Reveur - England have beaten Pakistan,Australia ( by an innings 3 times away from home )Sri Lanka and are demolishing India in the last 4 series. What more could they do?

  • POSTED BY Bang_La on | August 10, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    Billboard heroes for consumer goods show what they really are!

  • POSTED BY SnowSnake on | August 10, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    England is stamping its credentials with authority. India is going to sink deep into ranking tables. I think ICC ranking table has generated great interest in test cricket. The question that remains unanswered is: Is England that good or is India just too bad and makes England look good?

  • POSTED BY BravoBravo on | August 10, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    @Doc Scrumpy, your comment is so true, AMEN to that!

  • POSTED BY BroccoliPower on | August 10, 2011, 19:45 GMT

    hahahaha im waiting for comments from the dreamy bewildered Indian fans who thought India can "bounce back"....... rather, they are bouncing out!!! #1 test team my rear end! Sri Lanka played way better cricket against the same English side in much colder and harsher early summer, top notch swinging conditions. India played most of their tests at home won them all and became number one, when they are out and about they show their true colors. Good riddance!

  • POSTED BY Iyer on | August 10, 2011, 19:42 GMT

    is mukund injured? why didnt he play as a middle order batsman in place of raina? is it bcos raina can speak fluent hindi with dhoni?

  • POSTED BY BravoBravo on | August 10, 2011, 19:40 GMT

    The new excuse for all the debacles, which happened to IND team on this ongoing series, is not specific anymore, it becomes global in nature now. Its about the game itself, the new excuse is "Who Cares About Test Cricket".

  • POSTED BY Iyer on | August 10, 2011, 19:39 GMT

    I feel sorry for the spectators, they braved the riot and came to watch this spineless performance from india. none of the 11 players gave any sorta fight. Dhoni and pk just wielded their bat and was lucky to get few clean hits. I wouldn't say they played well. And to top it up the bowling was pathetic. yet again dhoni made errors with bowling changes and field settings. Shane warne commentary on sky sports is very critical of dhoni's captaincy, one should listen to that. I think shane is bang on target with his comments. I don't know how india is going to fix this problem. Looks like all youngsters want to score quick runs and make quick bucks in ipl. As a reuslt, we may not produce sachins and dravids and gangulys and laxmans in future. Feel sorry for the state of Indian cricket. I cannot believe how these youngsters are not practicing against short pitch delivery. If they know that is their weakness why are they not working on improving it? what practice do they do?

  • POSTED BY keemoa on | August 10, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    Pritish tandon test cricket is not boring in england only the sub continent(&WI),no life in in pitches on life in test cricket sad but ture

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    @ Nampally and the rest of the Indian cyborg fans - Do you actually call yourselves fans of cricket? A true fan shows respect to any and all teams when they play well. You say that Test cricket doesn't matter? You obviously know nothing about cricket then because Test cricket is the ONLY format that matters. And Nampally, you seem to think that the bowling conditions are making a @poor@ England bowling attackn look good? Tell that to Tendulkar because Praveen Kumar is playing the ball better than him and he is supposed to be the best batsmen in the world. His dismissals are not a fluke because he has been poor throughout the entire series. You also seemed to miss the fact that Anderson, Englands premier swing bowler, has not been the one soaking up the wickets - granted he has been destroying the Indian line-up but it is Broad - a non-swing bowler, who has been Englands chief destroyer. Maybe you should pay attention to what's happening on the pitch before you post your comments.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:37 GMT

    Pathetic show by Endia. England is undoubtedly no. 1 team. India, as always, tiger at home and cat abroad. But I bet England can beat India in India too.Even Bangladesh played much better than this against England in England.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    Very Well Played England ... Now They Are In A Strong Position On The First Day of 3rd Test ... After The Winnig This Game .. England goes To No 1 Position at ICC Ranking.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    @Doc Scrumpy - I completely agree with you.

  • POSTED BY LoveTheGame on | August 10, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    No. 1 ......No. 1...... oye win at least one test.....................flat track bullies are bullies only till the time they meet a real bully

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    Pritish Tandom. You stick to the hit and giggle cricket my friend. Let the men worry about the real stuff. It is called TEST cricket for a reason.

  • POSTED BY Romansoul23 on | August 10, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    A lot was said prior to the start of this series but it actually didn't turn up as expected. I am an immense cricket lover who was waiting desperately for this series but I am really disappointed with the way results have come. I am following the series even I have to work for nearly 12 hours a day. All the run machines of India have flopped after one another. Not to talk of Great Sachin Tendulkar (an exaggerated over rated player holding personal achievements rather contributing towards the team). I am watching him playing since his debut and he has shown a great consistency towards a losing cause. As the most senior player, one must lead from the front but alas he is not. India should better look to employ fresh blood. Its like NOW or NEVER for them. I wish very best of luck to them and hope to see some fight back in the remainder of the series. Chaos

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    hahahahahaah india is number 1 team lol india should play keniya bangla ,gola

  • POSTED BY NairUSA on | August 10, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Good attempt, Dhoni. For a while, the swashbuckler was back with the bat. Hope the Indian team can pull out a miracle in the coming days.

    There are a few comments from some obscure countrymen who have no business to be in this page. Why dont they focus on commenting on the sad situation of their country in general where teams dread even to visit?

  • POSTED BY Ian316 on | August 10, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    When SL lost the series (to the same English team btw) 1-0, we all told them off for losing it in one session on ridiculous batting amidst some really good bowling from the English bowlers. But this series is ridiculous. The Indian team is one over-hyped, over-paid bunch of crickerters if you ever had one! This series should hopefully bring them back to earth! Well played England... You deserve the number one status!

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    It is disgraceful that we the English are being asked to pay top money to watch a 3rd class side in India.

    Bangladesh would be much better opposition, at least they would try.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 10, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur, it must be comforting to keep putting england down and grasping at straws to keep yourself from drowning in despair. The simple truth is that India have so far being out played in this series, you can down play the success of the english bowling unit, but they have taken on all comers so far, and they are still improving. Next year will be crucial, as we have tours to SL and India which will be tough, and a visiting SA side that on paper is very strong in all departments.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    another test, same old, same old.... even if a small total is made, can't the bowlers defend it! terrible bowling! too many stray balls down the leg-side, nothing to make the batsman play...easy pickings. same pitch the english bowlers utilized, what is wrong with India?! This test ends Friday because, england is batting once only. 4-0 is definitely on the cards. India's performance is poor!

  • POSTED BY wolf777 on | August 10, 2011, 19:19 GMT

    Even though Raina did not get out to a short ball, he is a liability on fast and bouncy wickets. He is no Yousuf Pathan who will take body blow and will still keep coming back. He was a failure in South Africa on similar wickets and rightly dropped. What makes selectors think that his weakness on fast bouncy wickets has miraculously cured?

  • POSTED BY khiladisher on | August 10, 2011, 19:19 GMT

    No excuses at all -The writing is on the wall:This indian team does not deserve the #1 status-Please let me know whether in any day and age in a team sport have the current #1 team been beaten like this!-The team just does not display any intensity on the field and give an appearance of a team that is resigned to a4-0 loss in this series Once Dravid was out to magic ball it was a matter of time-Laxman getting out 3 times in aseries to the same shot is awful-Sehwag went to the first ball that nipped back-Gambhir never looked the part and what do u say about Tendulkar-He has been the biggest let down and has let the country and the millions of loyal cricket fans down{The summer of 74 looks a lot better than summer of 2011 that indian fans are enduring now}

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 19:18 GMT

    @Wheelspoke I agree entirely and in no way diminish the Indian achievement of getting to the summit in the test arena. My point was, when England get there, and they will, the Indian fans should not diminish that with the repeated claims of only victory in India will prove it. This is complete rubbish as India have not won in Oz yet got to the top (deservedly).

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | August 10, 2011, 19:17 GMT

    Another disgraceful batting show by the Indian team. It was shocking to see Sehwag getting out first ball and Tendulkar- world #1 batsman - getting out to a poor stroke again .Raina needs to make way for Kohli. When 3 out of top 7 batsmen fail, it is a disaster. Thanks to Dhoni, Indian batting got at least a modest total. Dhoni & Kumar clearly showed that the England's bowling was just average and the pitch was fine. Poor batting made the same bowling look great. Dhoni batting #7 , smashed 6's off the same 3 seamers who got the first 7 wkts. Kumar playing at #8 hit two 4's off Bresnan in one over. It clearly shows that the front line batsmen are playing with no guts or determination. England has challenged India to show up but India failed, once more. Forget World #1 title. It is a matter of self pride and belief in yourself that India is a strong batting side. Each batsman must be determined to own the crease & "will not get out" attitude. .

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    Test cricket is the BEST cricket

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 19:15 GMT

    @ Dolce Reveur Yes, you won ODI series in Oz. You won T20 in SA. I ask you again (as you cannot seem to grasp that Tests is different to ODI), when did you last win in Australia in a test match series.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:13 GMT

    The last time England played India in the subcontinent, they chased down 330+ to tie a World Cup match, and only managed to not win due to a bizarre choke rather than any great bowling/fielding from India. I suspect the "let them come to India crowd" are only going to have to eat crow again on England's next tour, just as they are having to eat crow today after making all kinds of predictions about glorious Indian victories on this tour. So stop the excuses and the sad jingoism, it does nothing for our national image. We need to focus on how to rebuild after this disaster of a tour.

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 19:13 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur Your total lack of grace and humility is embarrassing only you. Please stop.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:09 GMT

    Are India going to give us a game this summer or not? It's getting boring now.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    England is playing really good. They deserve no 1 status now.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    who cares about test cricket its boring to say the least...this should have been a normal 2 test match series ...come on start with the ODI and T20!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur, if you still believe India is the best team, then why are suffering in away conditions? if that happens to England when they play in your home, how are you different from them? techinically "best" side would prove to be at least "better" in away conditions!

  • POSTED BY Ehsan_Satti on | August 10, 2011, 19:02 GMT

    Bullies of slow track and Asian tigers are facing extreme hard time. I know, there is a huge difference between these two teams. England have real 11 fighting men at ground while most of the Indian players are hero. They just want glamour as like Bollywood actor. England is the no 1 test team in the world.

  • POSTED BY getsetgopk on | August 10, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    @Tricstar spot on mate, Indian fans are so good at throwing excuses if they cant find any they can always go back to that WC. its the same as you slap someone on the face and he starts crying and says oh you wait till u show up on my street i'll teach u a lesson :D

  • POSTED BY wheelspoke on | August 10, 2011, 19:00 GMT

    @DazTaylor - English bowlers have used the conditions very well. that being said, this current Indian team has had it good for the last 2 years where despite some guys failing other guys have stepped up and that is why you see the #1 ranking. It was not handed out in a day to the Indian team. This is the first series where most players have failed. It happens. Remember that it has been England's rear guard that saved England in the two tests at CRUCIAL times. & People are correct when they say ENGLAND should win in India. Of late the pitches in India have neither helped spinners NOR pacers. The dry conditions in most south Indian venues make it impossible to have consistent pace and bounce. I say let the BCCI prepare spinning tracks (NOT FLAT tracks) and we will wait to see how teams from the rest of the world(not just england) fare at that point. I remember the Wankhede test which ended in 3 days (India -AUS) where Ponting was cribbing about the pitch not suiited for test match cric.

  • POSTED BY ns1000 on | August 10, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    India's performance is going to set them back a half decade. Their minds will not be strong enough to recover from this. They need to take out the oldies now and start playing the youngsters so they grow up tougher. Raina should be left out because he can't play pace bowling. Give Kohli, Mukund, Rahane, Pujara, Ashwin, and other deserving youngsters a try before India wins another Test match - which could be 2016...

  • POSTED BY WTEH on | August 10, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    Oh Sehwag, much more was expected from you. I guess no point to held on to the No 1 ranking if we are going to lose another match. The country should realize the importance of test status over the crowed pleasing IPL.

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | August 10, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    India was never good in sports; and will never be good. Because in everything they go for short cuts.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    @Spuddinho, i doubt there would be any new excuse, apart from the age old pathetic one "we're playing too much cricket" !

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    @ Shan156: Ya......i do accept they are completety different formats.......Some bad performances cannot degrade Indian team's talent.....As u say some of them r claiming as if England has continously won 20 matches...they r the king....stuffs lyk tat....India evn aftr lifting the WORLD CUP stayd silent......India is still the best team in both the formats.......

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:52 GMT

    hahahahaha the much anticipated Sehwag gone for golden duck! most of the batsmen are literally helpless against the bounce & turn, too bad their only suited to play on the flat pitches of India! i wonder where they would have been on the rankings if they hadnt played so much at home!

  • POSTED BY popnlock on | August 10, 2011, 18:50 GMT

    well finally some of the indian fans have now started to state the england deserves to be no.1 test at the moment as they have clearly outplayed india in this series so far, I'm a big fan of sir SRT but really dint like his preparations for this series.. he played ipl for nothing as a player of his class and caliber doesn't need to play meaningless cricket that would make him suffer for the real cricket that is test cricket. India don't have a genuine fast bowler through such a big talent pool which is annoying too as Pakistan has and still are producing such great fast bowlers through lesser talent pool..BCCI should start putting some money and time at basic level to produce at least One good Fast bowler...

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:50 GMT

    This is too painful to watch. The number one team in the world has no answer to Broad and Bresnan with the bat and no answer to Broad and Bresnan with the ball either. The most celebrated batting line up in the modern game has been condemned to the clutches of unrelenting humiliation. Dhoni and company should spare themselves any further embarrassment from thel burdens of unassailable misery. Concede and go home. The IPL awaits India's new test cricket misfits with understanding.

  • POSTED BY Noboundary on | August 10, 2011, 18:49 GMT

    Very abysmal show by India. It looks like no player has taken the tests seriously. Only Dravid looks like he is fit to play in tests... all others are out of their depths and are finding this to be beyond the. Old names need to be dropped..yes I am referring to Sachin. He was a great player no doubt... but he is well past expiry date. Unfortunately the new culture of IPL has only produced club level sloggers who excel on flat surfaces and short boundaries... none seems to have the skill to negotiate swinging/seaming deliveries. IPL has also redefined fitness for the bowlers...if you can bowl 4 overs in a day with a maximum of two overs in a spell you are considered fit. Ban IPL!

  • POSTED BY nayf82 on | August 10, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    India are a very poor Test side at the moment, Sri Lanka provided more of a fight than the Indians. England bowl them out with ease (bar Dhoni) then procede to 84-0! How come Pakistan produce such great bowlers yet India cant???

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    @ Trickstar:the so-called bresnan and tremlett couldnt pick a single scalp in WC Qtr final......These English batsman couldnt even as we did in our Indian conditions....We have proved to be worthy players in the same english conditions before....Just some bad innings cant even define our talent....and mind the fact these english bowlers are getting fame only because they r dismissing this indian batting stars...its sure indian stars will fire back at the english bowlers....Quite a few good performances from these bowlers....and everyone r blabbering they are the best attack in the world....no.they r definitely nt.....Our batsman hav proved themselves in all countries and pitches n there is no questionin their talent....and you r right.....ODIs and Tests are different format....and this england side is not fit for the ODIs.....and they stand no chance in winning the World Cup evn next time.....SO SAD.....We are the MEN....and Eng team are the Boys...

  • POSTED BY wheelspoke on | August 10, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    English cricket team has used the conditions much better(obviously) than the Indian counterparts. The fact is that the English Weather allows for their curators to preprare seaming pitches. With the hot weather year around in India in most places, dry and cracked pitches are what are to be expected in India. I see no point in trying to prepare a seaming and bouncing pitch in India. It is Not so much the bounce that undid India in England for otherwise they would have failed in AUS and SA.I would be in favor of BCCI preparing spinning tracks (NOT FLAT TRACKS) and atleast have something called homefield advantage, instead of trying to match up with ENG and AUS. After all, if a team wants to be number 1, they should be good on quick/bouncy/seaming and slow/low/turning pitches as well. We would then know which team is more number 1 than most.

  • POSTED BY RS_Cric_11 on | August 10, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    END is playing well and on top of it INDIAN batsman are batting really poor which makes ENG bowler look like unplayable. Except Rahul, no body in mighty INDIAN batting line is paying. But, I could sense, when ENG bowlers are targeted as Dhoni did today, they are just usual bowler. I wish to see how they bowled to Sehwag in the second innings. INDIA had got some momentum in batting with Dhoni with his usual hammering mode. Its a game of cricket, no, you never know, ENG may score 500+ or just a mare 300+. I tell you, if INDIAN bowler somehow managed to restrict ENG below 350, the game is on and I can see IND winning the test by around 50 runs, if anything above 350 ENG 'll win by atleast 5 wicket. ENG survived atleast 2 close call today. Comming to the point, ENG as #1, I dont see them as #1 for long. No current team baring SA has that potential and on top of it GARRY jas joined them. At the end of this year I see SA regain their #1 status.

  • POSTED BY krishna_cricketfan on | August 10, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    @Trickstar: As an Indian fan I do not buy the argument that England will be defeated in India. Can England keep the bowlers injury free? I doubt it from the past 20 years of following cricket. If your bowlers are fit and bowl fast and furious like Flintoff (Mumbai 2008), then you can take the series. Otherwise it will be even. Too much cricket for top Indian players is one reason this series is one sided. Otherwise the series would have much closer. Still England's bowling would have won them the games.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    the england team deserves credit for playing well........but the indian team shouldnt be criticised just for one poor series...........even great teams like australia captained by steve waugh used to lose as they did when they came to india in 2001.....

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    @ DazTaylor: India have won the test series in England last time.....Won the CB Series in Australia....Won the T20 in South Africa....India exploits all the conditions better than england....Some failures dont create doubts over team's abillity....Even in tests Indians are veterans.....Indian batsman wound breathe fire soon........And u seem to admit England are weaker in ODIs......

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    I have always contended that Indian cricketers (like those of Sri-Lanka) are merely home performing cricketers. From history, Indian has never dominated when playing away from home, and therfore, it shouldn't surprise anyone that they are failing to do so now. On the other hand, England has been playing very good cricket (home & away) over the past couple of years, and is proving to be a much better team than India. Whether we like it or not we have to tip our hats to the English team.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | August 10, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    Sehwag to be the Saviour?! Would have been better sticking with Mukund who scored a century in the practice match because it couldn't have been worse than Sehwag. And can anyone please explain what the great Tendulkar has been doing in this series. Has played and missed many times but has the thrown his wicket away 5 times out of 5 mostly chasing the away swinger. I thought Sachin was a great batsman who analysed his mistakes and worked on them. Go back to basics - openers to tough out the new ball and let the middle order get on with it. In the absence of bowlers to bowl line and length 6balls an over. I dread to think what kind of mess a middle order of R Sharma, Raina, Kohli, Yuvraj would have made of this.

  • POSTED BY mak102480 on | August 10, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    All the english fans are coming out of the woods now that they are finally winning something...Congrats to England on a very well played series so far. But, again, it will be the first series win against india since 1996. So, don't go overboard with the celebrations.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    once a wise man says that.. dnt talk.. jst do and prove.. indian fans shouted " now we wil see ENG as Shewag is back,Gambhir is back..." but wht happened fellows.. a golden duck with no wickets to the bowlers.. so plz dnt comment these comments anymore.. ENG is going to b number 1.. they deserved it.. cheers

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | August 10, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    It's simple. Sachin wanted to score that 100th 100 in England for a wider applause, coverage and recognition. Pathetic. He's consumed by that elusive 100 and his mind is somwhere while playing that shot wide outside off-stump with feet stuck. He should be dropped after this series if he doesn't retire. Bring in Pujara (as soon as he is fit), who can play some honest cricket unlike this paper 'god' who is going to increase the weight of his kitty after everything is done and dusted by the English bowlers. Sachin's been well and truly a permanent fixture of that revolving door of batsmen (that Sharda mentioned in her article after 2nd test) coming in and going back apart from an inconsequential small fifty - too little, too late, once the match has gone out of our hands with no pressure of saving or winning. He's a useless batsman when we need him.

  • POSTED BY shrastogi on | August 10, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    The way Indian batsmen are batting and Englishmen are bowling a 4-0 result is a very high probabilty. It was 12 years back that India lost 3-0 to Australia and since have been touring better. Dhoni came to rescue today but only because ball was old. It would asdhame Tendulkar to bat like the way he ahs done. Only Dravid got a beauty and India would need to see if Pujara bats better than others at no 6. Now that relatively low scorers in the series for England have come to party India's second innings would be watched with interest. Tendulkar's pride in his ability and the way he skips series to be with his family would come under scrutiny. Dhoni can not be blamed for the mess as batting has been a let down. The problem tomorrow would be if bolwers fail to deliver. So Indian fans pray for a miraculous effort from bowlers.

  • POSTED BY cricveda on | August 10, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    I am not disappointed with indian batting at all england bowled really well they hit the proper line and lengths consistently .India should seriously consider their pace attack is this the weakest pace attack in history of indian cricket i dont really understand BCCI not bringing in new young bowlers ishant sharma deserves his place but sreesanth and praveen they dont. may be praveen has got few wickets he has not troubled much u got to hurry the batsmen i am very dissapointed with indian pace attack so weak if this is the pace attack of india england can beat india in india

  • POSTED BY Pritt32 on | August 10, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    Everything is looking grim for India. Bowled for below par 224 in first innings through a quality English seam bowling and England looking comfortable on 84-0. I can see England scoring a big 1 innings with 500 plus on the board and India playing for survival yet again. England will easily claim another massive win. India deserves to lose the series 4-0 on the basis of their abysmal showing. I have giving up hope on them, as they are struggling to compete with a formidable England team, who will deservedly crown no 1 test squad. None of their batmen are playing well, with Tendulkar's form being the worst. IPL should be scrapped completely as it damaging the Indian team. The quality of test team is suffering as a result of IPL . I hope that does not fall on deaf ears. India will lose the test series and might play better in one day series. This India is turning into a real nightmare and it is hard to be optimistic. It is upsetting watching them play and I hope it rains.

  • POSTED BY Bhiku on | August 10, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    well played captain,my eagerness to see u amongst runs was converting into irritation and frustration but eventually i am relief.dear captain i was pretty confident that u will go for a kill by playing 5 bowlers especially when u are down by 2-0 and the quality you have got in your batting which has not yet been justified.this was the decider match of the series and could have been the decision of the series if u would have gone with 5 bowlers.the only reason of playing 4 bowlers is to minimize the ratio of defeat but we were anticipating to level the series by winning both.it doesn't mean that playing 5 bowlers will win the matches but it shows desire,desperation,courage and guts which announces the intent to the opposition.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    Shambolic performance by India in this tour, they don't even deserve to be in top 3 forget about number 1

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    England are clearly No 1 side in the world. Sadly, they've reached that position when world cricket is desperately poor. Only SA could give them a decent game now. Australia, WI, India, Pak, Sri Lanka, NZ are all poor sides. No wonder no-one watches test cricket outside of England. I can't help thinking that one day cricket and especially IPL have brought this about. I'm very sad.

  • POSTED BY romsworld on | August 10, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    India has definitely been outplayed by a better allround team. Absolutely a great performance by England so far in all Tests. As much as I hate to say it, they should be #1 because they're playing like a #1 team. As far as Men to Boys comments made by Trickster.... oops.. I mean Trickstar is a little ridiculous. You never say Men to Boys when you talk about Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag. They will come through hopefully soon but it may be too late into the series when the series has already been won by England. As for the sake of a cricket, I would love a good fight by India and hopefully make it a interesting Test Match. As far as win/lose, I'm looking forward to a good match. It does not matter who is the winner. I just love Test Cricket and so far it has been a great series to watch. Adios, my cricket fanatics.

  • POSTED BY VAS4 on | August 10, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    Disgraceful performance from Indians. I have cancelled sky, so I dont have to watch it. Lucky me! Rain forecasted for tomorrow.

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    @krishna_cricketfan Actually, have YOU been reading these comments since the series began? I ask because I am certainly not alone stating Indian fans make excuses. Not all, but a majority do. Look at the past matches and their comments for proof.

  • POSTED BY saadfarrukh1 on | August 10, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    where is the saviour shewag.........where is india's bounce back ability.......lol....

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    4-0 seems inevitable. Occasional bursts are enough to grab an applause not a test. This is a wake up call. Dravid,Laxman,Sachin out of the team and its a total mess in the coming years. Test cricket is def. going down for India.

  • POSTED BY shamlaatu on | August 10, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    I wouldn't speculate to call England No 1 just as now. I will wait till they beat India in India to deserving take the crown. I have said it before and I will say it again, India cannot win by playing conventional cricket. They MUST attack to increase the probability of changing the game's result or else humiliation is written all over them. Dhoni today showed what an aggressive batting approach could do the confidence of English pacemen - something that was shattered into pieces in a matter of few overs faced by Dhoni .

  • POSTED BY ahweak on | August 10, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    I finally have come to accept reality. This series is most likely to be a 4-0 to England. India just cannot play at England's level now. Even if there wasn't an IPL and all Indian players were fit and the series was happening in India, this England team will be hard to beat. It is not a shame to lose to a side as good as this one. The BCCI should seriously consider another 8 weeks of IPL every year if they want to avoid further embarassment. That way, the senior players can either be injured or be rested and it will be easy to make excuses for poor performance.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    I am very happy that India can't rule the world. England deserve the number one test team in the world. I am sure England will beat India 4-0. India don't have ability to bounce back & draw the series. Next test series against Australia will decide the abilities of India to win series outside the home.

  • POSTED BY nlambda on | August 10, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    It is just depressing being an Indian right now... is this the same team that won in Perth and Durban? I am having flashbacks to when Azharuddin, Kambli, Raman and Manjrekar played for India and we used to get thrashed abroad. Broad, Tremlett et al are looking like Ambrose, Walsh & Co.

  • POSTED BY lankaforyou on | August 10, 2011, 18:12 GMT

    Shame that the so called best batting lineup in the world cannot bat one complete day of test match in almost all the 3 test matches ...... Yet we should not ask questions of their number 1 ranking... its a Joke

  • POSTED BY Optic on | August 10, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    @200ondebut Oh come on mate, just like the Ashes, it isn't England playing well, it's the opposition that are suddenly rubbish, you should know that's how it works when it come to England. I hope you sarcasm detector is working :)

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | August 10, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    The end of a golden era of Indian cricket. How swift and painful it has been. Oh why didn't the greats have the wisdom to retire last season after the world cup.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | August 10, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    For the second test running, it has seemed like India has been bowling on a different wicket to England. Will the BCCI please wake up and smell the curry? Their role should be develop (1) world class bowlers and (2) batsmen who can adjust to different conditions. By focusing on swing bowling, they have forgotten about seam bowling i.e bowlers who can move the ball off the seam rather through the air like V Prasad and their traditional strength of spin. So what you have now is a one-sided contest in favour of England and bowlers who are helping England's batsmen improve their averages. Duncan Fletcher has a lot of work ahead of him.

  • POSTED BY Optic on | August 10, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur I think you need to be reminded that this is not a ODi, so why are you talking about one day cricket for. Two words come to mind reaching and desperate. Where's all the bravado and boasting, it seems to have been replace by excuses and whinging. I thought England didn't have chance against the mighty India and their all time great batting line up. Is this how low you have sunk, that you have to talk about a ODi series from years ago. My my how embarrassing for you really cringe worthy. The most embarrassing thing is, the pitch is flat as a pancake and not much different from a sub continent pitch., there was no big swing or bounce from the pitch and they were still destroyed by really clever disciplined bowling.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    So when India starts to lose, the Indian fans says "when you come to subcontinent,....!". The series is at the moment in England not in India, when that time comes, talk about it. Indian fans ran out of excuses. They been thoroughly outplayed in batting and bowling. Accept the fact

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    hope for the best india will fight ......... prsnt england is doing well ....

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    No excuses friends....we dont deserve to be no 1,England has fully out played us,a no1 team should win in all conditions.

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | August 10, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur What the hell does the WC Qtr final have to do with Test cricket and for 2 apart from the odd player half the team was different. I mean really what stupid thing to say and really desperately sad. What with, 'oh wait till you come to India to play', is that how low you lot have sunk, gone from 'there's no chance England will beat the mighty India and their great batting line up' to wait till you come to our place. When England come to India next to play tests, how many of this team will be playing. Dravid, Tendy, Laxmann and Zaheer, more than likely will not be playing. Even if they were I'd put money on this England team handing your backsides to you. At the end of the day India have been bowled out again for a really low score on this pitch, as seen by the England openers Edgbaston is a very friendly pitch but the England bowlers are bowling really really well. England have to put on 500+ on this pitch and then set about destroying India again. Men against Boys

  • POSTED BY krishna_cricketfan on | August 10, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    @DazTaylo: England is doing well for sometime now. Your bowlers are doing well and that is the reason you are winning. What do you mean by excuses? Indian fans are very staunch critics of their team when things do not go well for their team. It seems you are not reading the comments in this site. Please look at the record of the English team over last 5 years and also the whitewash of 2006. You are NO Australia who could win 16 continuous game. If England can beat any team at any place like the great WI and Australian teams and Eng of past, your greatness will be proved.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | August 10, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    With India's bowling looking like it did from what their supporters had hoped was a bygone era, England is on course for a HUGE 1st innings total and India on course for a HUGE defeat. Could well be 100s for Strauss, Bell, Pieterson (even a double), Morgan and Prior, at least 50s from Bresnan and Broad would mean at least 600. Another way to look at is England to tomorrow and Friday and pick up RR to around 4 per over works out to 800 (720 plus today's 80). India in the field for 2 days and a bit all out for 200 at most and that would be mean a defeat by an innings and 400 runs. By comparison India were 4 wickets down at 84 and this this looks to be over as a contest. Only hope was Ishant doing a repeat of Lord's thing but that given his workload already this series seems to be unfair to expect it of him. Can see all kinds of records being made. Only negative tactics and / or rain can spare India total abject humiliation.

  • POSTED BY 200ondebut on | August 10, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    Are India playing poorly or are England playing well?? My view is that it is England making India look poor rather than India making England look good.

  • POSTED BY ToTellUTheTruth on | August 10, 2011, 17:53 GMT

    RIP...Indian cricket!!! Thank you (but no thanks) for all the pain you have inflicted on your loyal fans.

  • POSTED BY notokid on | August 10, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    Alright - lets have a match on Indian pitches. Where my dear Indian cricket team can get the pitch they can play on, as we all know that they are World Champions in India' and outside India, I highly doubt they can even beat Bangladesh in a test game.

  • POSTED BY HonestIndianOpinion on | August 10, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    As an Indian and a cricket lover I pronounce England as the next numero uno test team in the world... England deserve alot of praise for their performance and have truly outclassed India in all departments of the game... A good shake-up for the Indian team and the BCCI though... I wish we lose 4-0 now and end this test series abysmally so that BCCI realises the virtue of rest and planning tours... IPL should be banned... Its taking the application and technique part out of the batsmens' mind... Young Indian cricketers need to master the art of batting on seaming/bouncing wickets and bowlers need to be sent an SOS... There is not even a single FAST bowler in our outfit... I wish we could borrow some from Pakistan!!! I dunno what preparation Sachin did for this important tour, he's playing like a school cricketer... Laxman is taking batting too casually... Only a certain Dravid is playing with some sort of intention.. All the best Team India for the ODI series.. This test series is gone.

  • POSTED BY mensan on | August 10, 2011, 17:46 GMT

    tendulkar's 100th 100 has become a problem for him. he is not able to play tension free. he should have toured WI to get 100th 100 against a weak team. it seems far away against england. pitch playing well; so I see 200+ opening partnership and 500+ total.

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    @Alex Frankin - Yes, many England players (especially batsmen) have not performed. Yet they have still humiliated India. How embarrassing. Imagine the size of the pasting had all 11 performed?

  • POSTED BY vikram1705 on | August 10, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    Now Tendulakar is Broad's bunny. He got him three times in five innings.

  • POSTED BY Fluffykins on | August 10, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    Got told by the Indian fans that England's batters would get blown away when they can over...well I am still waiting for India to turn up to this series...........

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    @Dolce Reveur - Please, give up this constant drivel you and your fellow Indian fans keep sprouting. "England need to win in subcontinent to be No1". Actually, we dont so get over it. Remind me when India won in Australia to be No1? And the scores you suggest were ODIs a COMPLETELY different game as well you know. Oh, we have won in both Pakistan and SL since 2000. Indian great batsmen? 5 innings and not once over 300.

  • POSTED BY HumungousFungus on | August 10, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    Interested to see what excuses India come up with this time for another abject batting performance. Nobody missing in top 7, yet only some spirited resistance from Dhoni and Kumar allowing India to even scrape 224, which England's under-pressure opening pair have made serious inroads into already.

    Suspect that England will put India's score into perspective by batting all day tomorrow, and being about 150 - 175 ahead by close of play...

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    Oh and I see Saviour Sehwag proved his worth.

  • POSTED BY mensan on | August 10, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    A 200+ opening partnership and a 500+ total in on cards.

  • POSTED BY DazTaylor on | August 10, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    After yet another day of being battered, I await with interest the excuses from the Indian fans.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    Indeed a sad day for Indian Cricket. Its been a sorry tour so far.

  • POSTED BY Lala_Amarnath on | August 10, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    Fletcher needs to exercise some muscle here. No fitness, no practice - no place in the team. Indian team has to accept that they have been outplayed in all the departments, go back to the drawing board and focus on the basics. It will probably take a 3-0 beating for them to realize this. Sehwag and Raina have never been known to handle genuine pace and bounce with supreme technique anyway - so their failure does not surprise me. Tendulkar showing up without much practice in the WI tour predictably failed. VVSL, Dravid showed correct technique and patience and got runs. The bowlers have been about average - the batsmen have never really given them a defendable total to bowl to. Way to go England!

  • POSTED BY cricketisagame on | August 10, 2011, 17:28 GMT

    VICKY62, you're right. The decision to play in all the IPL and skip the Windies tour is the decision taken by Sachin himself.. not by Gavaskar. I think here you're forgetting the basics. Sehwag, Gambir and Zaheer played all the IPL matches albeit carrying injuries. The system has to be changed and there should be a proper preparation for a test series of this kind.

  • POSTED BY gayansumeera2 on | August 10, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    England is going to be the number 1 test team in the world after beating India in this match and they are deserved to be there by performing like these.Anyway India can win matches only in their home in front of their home supporters and out of home they are really helpless.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    turning out to be the worst english tour....since 1971 every english tour brought good amount of postives.. this is the series that reminds me of India australia test series of 1999

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    And yet the mind games have outplayed India. All hopes were shed around Sehwag and India just lost its way as usual. Well, the Indian captain has shown that there is nothing to worry for the English player, by hitting sixes when the wickets were tumbling on the other end, cause he was sure that he wont stay any longer.

  • POSTED BY BoonBoom on | August 10, 2011, 16:57 GMT

    Stupidity to play Sehwag and Ghambhir play this Test. They must stay and try to get fit before IPL. After all IPL is FAT MORE IMPORTANT that any other form of cricket and thats why it is planned in every FTP. Long Live IPL!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    There is no doubt that the English side is the best in the world on wickets with swing and pace.

    And I am unsure what would happen if they came to India. Sure our top order would then manage to middle the ball instead of pathetically edging it all the time..but so would the English top order.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    So indian batting again failed england bowling really well i think only miracles can save them now @alex well trott ,peterson,bell are really playing well so i dont no by what means they are out of formSo indian batting again failed england bowling really well i think only miracles can save them now @alex well trott ,peterson,bell are really playing well so i dont no by what means they are out of form

  • POSTED BY tjsimonsen on | August 10, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    Well, to be honest, India did muster something of a comeback. When Kumar joined Dhoni I was sure that they were going to be all out for less than 150. So 224 is way better than it could have been. Still, it doesn't look sufficient on this pitch against this England side. @Alex Franklin: of course England hav glitches. But to claim that only the three alrounders have contributed isn't exactly correct is it? Forgotton Pietersen's double at Lords and his follow-up 63 at Trent Bridge? Or Bell's 159 at Trent Bridge. also, Morgan's 70 at the same venue, and Trott's 70 at Lords in the most testing conditions were both pretty handy contributions, I think.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | August 10, 2011, 16:17 GMT

    @ Dolce Reveur, do you know that tests and ODIs are two different formats? That said, India have been the better team in both formats since the last decade. However, in this series, India have come a distant second best. Why is it too hard to accept for some? Yes, these are home conditions but England's bowlers have been good enough to exploit the conditions to trouble the famed Indian batting line-up. And, that is no mean feat. Very few ignorant people are claiming that England are #1. There can be an argument that, on current form, England are #1 but most England fans clearly know that not one team is dominant as the Windies are the Aussies once were. We accept England are not #1 yet. India are #1 according to the rankings but at the moment they are being thoroughly outplayed.

  • POSTED BY BravoBravo on | August 10, 2011, 15:49 GMT

    IND 300+ score is shrouded in Harry Potter's invisibility cloak, and it will be there for a while. For a long long time Sehwag has been unable to play more than 9 overs in any inning (barring WC2011 match against BD). In that sense he became very predictable. Good luck ENG; and RSD and MSD.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    Lennox : agreed , india have been thoroughly outplayed ... but does that mean England has no glitches ???? as u pointed out the performers are broad , bresnan & prior only .... what about cook , trott , strauss , peitersen & bell ???? even they havent played the moving ball at properly at all .... do u think ur all rounders will keep performing all round the year .. if u think so , i would like to see ur posts here when England next tours the subcontinent :)

  • POSTED BY kumarcoolbuddy on | August 10, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    I am eagerly waiting for ENG (ex-) players and coach to start one more psychological drama on Indians now...come on Ian Botham and Michael Vaughan..everyone is waiting on you...

  • POSTED BY HarishVS on | August 10, 2011, 15:05 GMT

    I think rushing in Sehwag was not a wise move. This is England in England with some of the best bowlers playing simultaneously since anytime before best remembered. Nasser Hussain had commented that he would pick Mukund in place of Sehwag for this Test simply because he was more in form and Sehwag having not played competitive cricket since 3 months. As Ravi Shastri opined in his commentary today, these English bowlers were looking like bowling at least one wicket taking delivery in every over completed unlike Indian counterparts who seemed to feed in boundary balls over by over in plenty. This is a bad selection and bad planning than anything else. I cannot blame Dhoni or any players for this bad series. I think we need miracles to stop India from minimum 3-0. Looking at the play today, 4-0 is not beyond England's reach!

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    All of you.....as to mind the fact that this england cant even pick a single wicket against SL in WC qtr final.....England r playin gud in this series just out of luck and also the conditions favour them......If England is a so-called unit let them prove themselves in Indian conditions....not in their home.....Last times they toured India they were rattled by Indians with 5-1 and 5-0 margin......India still the best team than anyone.....

  • POSTED BY vmp78 on | August 10, 2011, 14:44 GMT

    Yes Indian Batsmen have had a bad series. But the comments are typical, SRT fails then aske him to retire. This is his first failed series in 3 years. Give him a break. People said the same to Dravid after the SA series where he averaged 15. Now that Dravid has scored runs in this series he need not retire. It is unfortunate that everyone except Dravid is failing but thats what cricket does. SRT and VVS will come back strongly. I remember in 2007 when SRT and VVS struggled everyone wanted them to retire. They turned it around and will do the same here. One bad series does not take away the good work done for the past 3 years. In a way it is good that India will not be No 1, takes the pressure of them. England also will face the same issues that India did in reverse, cannot win in subcontinent. Lets see how many people say they deserve to Be no 1 without winning in the subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY VICKY62 on | August 10, 2011, 14:00 GMT

    Interesting to hear Gavaskar describe Tendulkar as out of form. Playing almost all the IPL matches and giving the Test series(!) against the Windies a miss was not the ideal way for Tendulkar to prepare against the best attack in the world, was it? And not a soul -including Sunny- criticized this decision!

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 13:53 GMT

    i thnk dis is the worst test series for india since 1999 austarlia india series in australia

  • POSTED BY Silloh on | August 10, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    Dear O Dear - what can the matter be ?? The Indian bridge is falling down ...falling down. Come on guys and you can't say this is your C team as you boasted when you played Windies in the Caribbean recently. Start moving over as the number one team is coming through. For the good of the game, and the strong minded fans and in the midst of the on going challenges , I wish that India will recover and show some spunk.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    Oh how the mighty have fallen! Did India actually arrive in England for this test series as the number one test team in the world? Is Sachin Tendulkar actually the leading run scorer in test cricket with 51 test hundreds? India has only one batsman (Dravid - 71) averaging above 50 in this series. England has five. Included in those five, are three all rounders batting in the second half of the English line-up.Wicket keeper Matt Prior is averaging over 80 and both Stuart Broad and Tim Bresnan are averaging over 50 and taking their wickets at 12 a piece. Is this massive mismatch really a contest worthy of the test cricket banner?

  • POSTED BY skeptic_indianfan02 on | August 10, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    It's gonna be 3-0 for sure!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 10, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    There's less help for the bowlers here than there was at either Lord's or Trent Bridge, so to have India at 75-4 at lunch was good work by England. Sehwag's stay was predictably brief- I suggested that the first one to nip back would find him out and so it proved. The little master seems to be hypnotised by Anderson- Broad got the wicket, but Tendulkar had so much trouble with Anderson that he didn't seem to have his mind on the ball that got him out. Dravid got a real beauty from Bresnan and Bresnan has bowled so well that it's hard to see how he can be left out even when Tremlett's fit.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | August 10, 2011, 12:40 GMT

    Barring a miracle, this test also seems to be going Eng way. With the series loss staring in their face, Ind should give up their timid approach thus far and go after Eng bowling. At least, it is better to go down fighting.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    Since you wouldn't let me have my live commentary feedbacks, I am obviously not happy at all. But certainly happy for the proceedings though I completely agree this Test may go any way. One good session for England doesn't necessarily mean England is favorite to win it but if u look at the way they r playing, u can easily assume they r going for a kill and India does need sth very very special (Not VVS Laxman though) to stop the rolling English. Looking forward for some good cricket at least, regardless of result.

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | August 10, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    Utter Humiliation. What a performance by England. My prediction India will be bowled out for < 125 . SRT having played for so many years and tests still is poking around off stump. He thought scring his 100th 100 against WI will not have the significance as scoring it against England. SRT u shd hv retired after winning the WC. He has looked completely out of sorts. Dravid got a beauty and not he could not have done much. This is ruthless and championship performance by England. They have totaly outplayed India and thoroughly deserve #1 ranking.

  • POSTED BY blondblackberry on | August 10, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    why complain younger generation of raina's,kohli,dhoni. sachin's,gambir,laxman's performance is also poor.it is so disappointing that the technique of greats is poor or just poor form?

  • POSTED BY rgk1974 on | August 10, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    @Tatsache LOL! Sehwag did go for a golden duck, are you still hapy??

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | August 10, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Well Tatsache, I hope watching Sehwag smile over the next 3 days makes up for losing the No.1 spot. As an Aussie supporter I can tell you that the smiles disappear when the team starts losing, and mate, India's losing has only just begun.

  • POSTED BY Spuddinho on | August 10, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Sehwag the saviour gone first ball. Any ideas on the latest round of excuses from our sub-continental friends...?

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    @Tatsache: your wish has been granted... Sehwag gone for exactly a golden duck... :P

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 10, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    even at 3 down i think i would rather have batted. dpk

  • POSTED BY RS_Cric_11 on | August 10, 2011, 12:02 GMT

    In order to be in number 1 Test side, India should start dominate ENG. Sehwag had gone for zero, but never the less, we have got a balanced batting order now. If india can manage to WIN this game I am sure they 'll win the next game as well. Its now ENG who is supposed to fight hard in this test.

  • POSTED BY Tatsache on | August 10, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    I am happy even sehwag out for golden duck If he is playing in the team,because even some players If they not play proper game but they will provide confidence to the team..example kaif,sehwag,raina,etc..he is always smiling in the field,and every time bodybehaviour showing we can win the match,it is spirit to other players..and that confidence put oppsite team to some pressure.....!ofcoure they have to play good game also....

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  • POSTED BY Tatsache on | August 10, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    I am happy even sehwag out for golden duck If he is playing in the team,because even some players If they not play proper game but they will provide confidence to the team..example kaif,sehwag,raina,etc..he is always smiling in the field,and every time bodybehaviour showing we can win the match,it is spirit to other players..and that confidence put oppsite team to some pressure.....!ofcoure they have to play good game also....

  • POSTED BY RS_Cric_11 on | August 10, 2011, 12:02 GMT

    In order to be in number 1 Test side, India should start dominate ENG. Sehwag had gone for zero, but never the less, we have got a balanced batting order now. If india can manage to WIN this game I am sure they 'll win the next game as well. Its now ENG who is supposed to fight hard in this test.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 10, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    even at 3 down i think i would rather have batted. dpk

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    @Tatsache: your wish has been granted... Sehwag gone for exactly a golden duck... :P

  • POSTED BY Spuddinho on | August 10, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Sehwag the saviour gone first ball. Any ideas on the latest round of excuses from our sub-continental friends...?

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | August 10, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Well Tatsache, I hope watching Sehwag smile over the next 3 days makes up for losing the No.1 spot. As an Aussie supporter I can tell you that the smiles disappear when the team starts losing, and mate, India's losing has only just begun.

  • POSTED BY rgk1974 on | August 10, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    @Tatsache LOL! Sehwag did go for a golden duck, are you still hapy??

  • POSTED BY blondblackberry on | August 10, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    why complain younger generation of raina's,kohli,dhoni. sachin's,gambir,laxman's performance is also poor.it is so disappointing that the technique of greats is poor or just poor form?

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | August 10, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    Utter Humiliation. What a performance by England. My prediction India will be bowled out for < 125 . SRT having played for so many years and tests still is poking around off stump. He thought scring his 100th 100 against WI will not have the significance as scoring it against England. SRT u shd hv retired after winning the WC. He has looked completely out of sorts. Dravid got a beauty and not he could not have done much. This is ruthless and championship performance by England. They have totaly outplayed India and thoroughly deserve #1 ranking.

  • POSTED BY on | August 10, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    Since you wouldn't let me have my live commentary feedbacks, I am obviously not happy at all. But certainly happy for the proceedings though I completely agree this Test may go any way. One good session for England doesn't necessarily mean England is favorite to win it but if u look at the way they r playing, u can easily assume they r going for a kill and India does need sth very very special (Not VVS Laxman though) to stop the rolling English. Looking forward for some good cricket at least, regardless of result.