England v India, 3rd Investec Test, Ageas Bowl, 2nd day July 28, 2014

Bell and Buttler pummel shabby India

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Highlights: Batsmen put England on top

India 25 for 1 trail England 569 for 7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156, Cook 95, Buttler 85) by 544 runs
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On the first day England's struggling captain Alastair Cook had found runs - if not form - to lay a platform, and on the second their other out-of-sorts senior pro, Ian Bell, made his first hundred since August 2013 to eliminate India's chances of improving their 1-0 lead in the series.

The home side also unearthed a new hope. Jos Buttler, the limited-overs specialist who replaced Matt Prior as wicketkeeper, played the sort of innings Adam Gilchrist used to, rattling along at more than a run a ball against a listless attack and shabby fielders. He missed a century on debut only because he was accelerating his team towards a declaration.

England scored 117 in 18.4 overs after tea, and India's left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja suffered the most. He had conceded only 34 in 22 overs on the first day; he went for 119 in 23.4 overs on the second.

The stage for England's tea party had been set in the previous sessions, when Bell batted like he had never been short of runs. He put on 142 for the second wicket with Gary Ballance, who converted his overnight 104 into his highest Test score.

Bell and Ballance were near perfect in the sunshine. They were beaten only occasionally, edged less frequently, had fewer scares, and scored swiftly. The portents were ominous for India. M Vijay was lackadaisical at mid-on and allowed the second run of the day, and when the debutant Pankaj Singh found Bell's edge, the ball went between third slip and gully. Bell received a leg-side appetiser next ball, which he glanced for four.

India rely on Bhuvneshwar Kumar to bowl long and economical spells but he was off his game. Shami did not improve on a disappointing first day. Too often he was too straight or offered width, and bowled a poor length. Pankaj lost his discipline in his second spell, after he had been impressive in his first, and both batsmen were soon scoring all round the wicket.

Jadeja had no impact either. In his second over, Bell skipped down and lofted the left-arm spinner over the straight boundary, a shot he repeated later in the day to bring up his 21st Test hundred and pass 7000 runs.

With no wicket in sight, MS Dhoni turned to Rohit Sharma. With his fifth delivery, Rohit got the ball to bounce and turn away from Ballance. The batsman was beaten but umpire Rod Tucker could not see the ball had missed the edge by a considerable margin and only brushed the batsman's trousers on its way into the wicketkeeper's gloves. That was the only blemish in England's 111-run session.

Dhoni made 15 bowling changes in 15 successive overs after lunch, rotating Shami, Pankaj and Bhuvneshwar - perhaps to give them more of a break between overs so that they could bowl longer spells. There was a little movement in the air as clouds gathered and floodlights came on, but the seamers failed to string together enough good balls and build pressure. Bell continued to capitalise on the width by driving, cutting and flicking.

Bhuvneshwar had Joe Root caught behind just before the second drinks break as the batsman advanced, but India's good spirits were short lived. When Dhoni decided to bowl Jadeja again, Bell tore into him, hitting two sixes and two fours in a 21-run over.

With his seamers tiring, Dhoni persisted with Jadeja at one end and continued rotating his quicks at the other. Bhuvneshwar had Moeen Ali caught behind trying to pull a short ball, a growing weakness in the batsman's game. Bhuvneshwar nearly handed Buttler a duck on debut, too. Ajinkya Rahane had claimed a low catch at second slip but the batsman was reprieved after replays indicated doubt, as they often do with such referrals. He punched the next ball through cover for his first Test runs just before tea.

Buttler's initial target was Jadeja, who was driven through and over cover repeatedly. He also used his limited-overs nous and reverse-swept the spinner twice. India could have been spared some pain had Shikhar Dhawan caught Buttler, on 23, at first slip; instead their drop-count in the cordon rose to six for the series. Bell and Buttler took 13 runs off successive overs from Jadeja. The acceleration was on.

Bell got to 150 and then walked down to pull Pankaj dismissively to the long-on boundary; Buttler charged Jadeja and launched a straight six to take England past 500. Their century stand took only 132 balls.

England might have waited for Bell to get a double century, but he holed out to give Bhuvneshwar his third wicket. Buttler continued rampaging, though, and India went to pieces. Dhoni missed a ridiculously easy stumping, and Pankaj, after being pulled for consecutive sixes, missed a straightforward chance to run out Chris Woakes during a 21-run over. When Buttler bottom-edged on to his stumps for 85 - scant consolation for Jadeja - Cook declared to give India 14 overs to face in the gloom.

James Anderson and Stuart Broad ran in hot, swinging and seaming the ball, their extra pace causing more discomfort than India's slower seamers did. Dhawan did not survive, his wretched run in the series exacerbated by an Anderson delivery that angled into him from round the wicket, squared him up and took the edge to first slip. It was a perfect end to England's day.

George Binoy is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • entryholedia on July 29, 2014, 2:40 GMT

    India sides have always had to save tests in England much more than they won & has been the trend since time in memorial . The '71 tour was one where we escaped in the first two by weather gods. But we did have at least a world class spin attack which none could match & we played in the second half just as we are doing now. The '1986 team was perhaps the strongest side besides the '2007 side when we had bowlers whom always gave us hopes of a win & batsmen too .remaining trips we played to save tests most often losing . This series it was a 5-0 for England but some strange things happened -the India like pitch at trent bridge & the one in thousand bowling performance togather with batting gave us a surprising win . Now we are in the same way like the '2011 tour when our only bowler Zaheer limped off and we had no bowlers worth mention who could dismiss England. Its just like the 2010-11 English tour of India when after wining at Ahmedabad we lost by 2-1 . The portents ARE SAME NOW

  • rk_ks on July 29, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    If any team is out of form, they have to play against India. India brought form to so many teams. This is nothing new for us. Proved again. Until and unless the fielding and bowling is improved, we are going to lose the matches like this. We put down 4 slip catches. Dhoni are you listening to us.

  • on July 29, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    it definitely is not a case of flat pitch due to which England posted such a huge total. Poor team selection, dropped catches and poor bowling is what did india in. only bhuvi and pankaj looked like taking wickets that too on occasionally. All bowlers were guilty of wrong line and length. too many balls wasted on the leg side which made the task easy for england bastmen. Not sure if this batting line up is capable of batting more than 90 overs. Remember, both the tests were saved due to somw resolute batting from the lower order. otherwise only one top order batsman clicked at any given point.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    O dear! not again! Another bad decision copped by Eng. Rahane given n.o by Tucker off a big nick .Almost as bad as Balance given out y'day.Lucky India.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    one more thing to notice is draw in this match will be a huge morale booster with 1-0 up..even lose will not shatter them..They'll come good for remaining 2 with 5 bowlers which is their strength. .hope for the best!!

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    @Lin Comp- Well ,no matter how you can rate Eng bowling this session as intense,steady or fiery the results are before us. Already have Ind 3 down,2 in this session till now on this so called flat pitch. Bhuv and co. would've struggled to get 1 W even.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:35 GMT

    but still 6 batsmen in India more than enough if they play to their potential and patience. .6:5 batsmen bowler ratio is acceptable easily..it'll be 6-2-3 must..not 7-4 seeing the result now..India would have tied England down less than 400 with 5 bowlers..things'd have been easy than this situation..India should battle a bit long for a formidable draw...

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    Okay Broad you got another wicket now by bowling near to the stumps now you can start wasting deliveries by bowling wide and short pitches again.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:11 GMT

    People here are not understanding the team selection Kohli is running out of form Pujara is not at his best, Shikhar Dhawan is not performing, Dhoni cant be trusted in seaming conditions in test, so to fill these many holes an extra batsmen was a must, I dont see any defensive tactic in the inclusion of Rohit only issue could be with Ashwin sitting out, everything else is fine until Kohli starts scoring.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:05 GMT

    I really do not understand why this bowling from england is called as intense, england is putting so much effort on short pitch etc whereas the simple tight line and full length from bowlers like Bhuvanehswar kumar etc helps the team go get more wickets with better run control, yes i understand broad got a wicket now but with bhuvi style of bowling by this time 2 wickets would have fallen. this is brawn Vs brain issue, gone are the days intimidating bowling helping the bowlers especially against indian batsmen, one needs brain, england is certainly missing this fact. they still continue to assume that short pitched and wide and intimidating deliveries are the best way to get indian wickets but the truth is different, these bunch of indian batsmen need a more brainy approach rather than brawny approach.

  • entryholedia on July 29, 2014, 2:40 GMT

    India sides have always had to save tests in England much more than they won & has been the trend since time in memorial . The '71 tour was one where we escaped in the first two by weather gods. But we did have at least a world class spin attack which none could match & we played in the second half just as we are doing now. The '1986 team was perhaps the strongest side besides the '2007 side when we had bowlers whom always gave us hopes of a win & batsmen too .remaining trips we played to save tests most often losing . This series it was a 5-0 for England but some strange things happened -the India like pitch at trent bridge & the one in thousand bowling performance togather with batting gave us a surprising win . Now we are in the same way like the '2011 tour when our only bowler Zaheer limped off and we had no bowlers worth mention who could dismiss England. Its just like the 2010-11 English tour of India when after wining at Ahmedabad we lost by 2-1 . The portents ARE SAME NOW

  • rk_ks on July 29, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    If any team is out of form, they have to play against India. India brought form to so many teams. This is nothing new for us. Proved again. Until and unless the fielding and bowling is improved, we are going to lose the matches like this. We put down 4 slip catches. Dhoni are you listening to us.

  • on July 29, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    it definitely is not a case of flat pitch due to which England posted such a huge total. Poor team selection, dropped catches and poor bowling is what did india in. only bhuvi and pankaj looked like taking wickets that too on occasionally. All bowlers were guilty of wrong line and length. too many balls wasted on the leg side which made the task easy for england bastmen. Not sure if this batting line up is capable of batting more than 90 overs. Remember, both the tests were saved due to somw resolute batting from the lower order. otherwise only one top order batsman clicked at any given point.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    O dear! not again! Another bad decision copped by Eng. Rahane given n.o by Tucker off a big nick .Almost as bad as Balance given out y'day.Lucky India.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    one more thing to notice is draw in this match will be a huge morale booster with 1-0 up..even lose will not shatter them..They'll come good for remaining 2 with 5 bowlers which is their strength. .hope for the best!!

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    @Lin Comp- Well ,no matter how you can rate Eng bowling this session as intense,steady or fiery the results are before us. Already have Ind 3 down,2 in this session till now on this so called flat pitch. Bhuv and co. would've struggled to get 1 W even.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:35 GMT

    but still 6 batsmen in India more than enough if they play to their potential and patience. .6:5 batsmen bowler ratio is acceptable easily..it'll be 6-2-3 must..not 7-4 seeing the result now..India would have tied England down less than 400 with 5 bowlers..things'd have been easy than this situation..India should battle a bit long for a formidable draw...

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    Okay Broad you got another wicket now by bowling near to the stumps now you can start wasting deliveries by bowling wide and short pitches again.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:11 GMT

    People here are not understanding the team selection Kohli is running out of form Pujara is not at his best, Shikhar Dhawan is not performing, Dhoni cant be trusted in seaming conditions in test, so to fill these many holes an extra batsmen was a must, I dont see any defensive tactic in the inclusion of Rohit only issue could be with Ashwin sitting out, everything else is fine until Kohli starts scoring.

  • on July 29, 2014, 11:05 GMT

    I really do not understand why this bowling from england is called as intense, england is putting so much effort on short pitch etc whereas the simple tight line and full length from bowlers like Bhuvanehswar kumar etc helps the team go get more wickets with better run control, yes i understand broad got a wicket now but with bhuvi style of bowling by this time 2 wickets would have fallen. this is brawn Vs brain issue, gone are the days intimidating bowling helping the bowlers especially against indian batsmen, one needs brain, england is certainly missing this fact. they still continue to assume that short pitched and wide and intimidating deliveries are the best way to get indian wickets but the truth is different, these bunch of indian batsmen need a more brainy approach rather than brawny approach.

  • spinkingKK on July 29, 2014, 11:00 GMT

    I think England batted too long in this match. They should have allowed one full session to get more wickets on day 2. Now, with all the slow batsmen India has, they should be able to get a draw.

  • Mervo on July 29, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    I am a bit disappointed in Pujara. In India on the slow wickets he looked really solid and his back foot technique looked ready made for wickets in other countries (out of the sun-continent) with a bit of bounce and where fast bowling was still practised. I really thought he would do well in England. So far, not well. Kohli, I am really surprised how poorly he has gone so far. Time will tell however as he is a more aggressive batsman and fears no bowler. I hope he turns up in this match and that he does not fall victim to the English medium pacers.

  • jackthelad on July 29, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    Oh,dear. A bowler needs four to six overs to get into his stride, begin hitting the spots he wants, and not to get too tired so that the arm doesn't have quite the give it had - one-over spells? Easy to see the captain is not a bowler and doesn't understand the art.

  • CricChina on July 29, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    I believe Butler, replacing Prior and did so well with the bat really solidify England position in this test on his test debut, his morale-boosting performance giave the English some sort of stability and assurance as new pick for behind-the-wicket! Look forward to the next 3 days' play, certainly!!

  • on July 29, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    this match complete misfortune for team India without Drs , dropped catches and wrong decisions ...only batsmen patience and defense , may have to save them from defeat to get probable draw..could be like adelaide test btw aus and sa where sa defended to commendable draw should be the inspiration for India in this match..majorly kohli , rohit and Dhoni should play with straight bat consistently instead of cross play. .They have to build innings with patience , playing right balls , defending straight forward..India team should think a lot in this match to earn a respect getting in with a draw..

  • vkumar_086 on July 29, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding....yes both sides have lot of YOUNG players, almost 80% of the players are uncapped, played very few games...ballance, root are the bright prospects for England...i really appreciates the concentration, determination and stroke play of Ballance...he is such a good player plays fearlessly....similar for India, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Bhuvi, Rohit are all young and proving their selections...Both England and India (along with New Zealand) giving lot of chances for youngsters, this will surely help both sides in long run and have at least 10 years future (the average age of both sides is around 25 years only)...no other team gave ample of chances for young players recently..but I still weigh England slight ahead in terms of experience than India because of Cook, Bell, Anderson, Broad who all played more than 75 test matches, whereas for India, only Dhoni played more matches than others

  • ShanNachimuthu on July 29, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    Poor team selection, dropped catches, missed stumpings & runouts, poor umpiring are the features of Indian side in this test match. MSD can voluntarily step down or even give up his place in test side and focus only on limited overs. As always India is the team getting more poor decisions and I do not know why BCCI is opposing DRS. Remember, in last world cup, DRS played vital role in India's favour to lift the trophy. Had DRS been there is this series India wouldn't in this bad position in this test match. I expect couple of bad decision will go against India and make them to be in precarious position. Having seen the 12 overs of last evening England spell I expect the Indian wicket falling at regular intervals and ended up scoring around 300 ( of course with the help of Kumar and Shami ). Then england will bat again to score a quick 225 and leave a target around 425 and India will be batting hard for tense draw. Looks like Dhoni is kept in the test team with commercial perception.

  • on July 29, 2014, 9:21 GMT

    yes @arun bose well said..India in virtue of its transition phase , need some stability in bowling, India with their intent and dedicated players , with time on they could only be better and best..have faith in this team ..even management should consider suitable talents for the conditions and selecting best 11 consistently as winning combination ..Dhoni should be wiser in this..hope time brings better fortunes and glory of team India. .

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:55 GMT

    @Henry_Mancini- It's nt jst India that suffers abroad but every team... Yes, India didn't performed well for three years in away test matches but that happens with every other team, There comes a time when nothing goes in ur favour and you lose more often than not bt that doesn't mean that u could never win..Give this team some time as it is a very young side and being a very young side they showed great guts and fought even when others thought they would simply surrender.. Every young team evolves with time, Give them some time and you will see positive results more often..They are not magicians or machines, They are normal human beings just like us..Are we perfect? Do we do right thing all the time? No, We don't likewise they too.. So my suggestion would be to leave them alone and let their talent speak for them.. Mny ppl said b4 this series began that this team can't win a single test in this series but u see they r the one who r 1 up in dis series not behind..So give them sm time..

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    @JG2704 the risk of 3 days in the field? With an exhausted Anderson and slightly injured Broad, both vital for the world cup? With Jordan who can tear apart teams but can also be wayward and go missing. With Woakes and Ali who are good bowlers but who Cook is unprepared to bowl.

    Re the ODIs I'm sure Ballance will develop into an ODI player but I don't want to rush him into it for now. Let him develop his test game. But I wouldn't rule it out in the future. Same with Root and Ali.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:49 GMT

    There's stil enuogh time for India to get back into this, rapid scoring today would give England something to think about.

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 8:46 GMT

    Big test for Cook the captain. He scored some runs, but now he has to lead the side. He needs to show he has what it takes.

    It will also test his faith in Woakes and Ali. I'm not sure he's too prepared to bowl them. But Ali bowled well at Lord's, and this pitch is spinning. With Anderson and Broad exhausted, and Jordan prone to being erratic, Cook needs to give Woakes and Ali some overs. But will he be prepared to?

  • 25253123 on July 29, 2014, 8:46 GMT

    india dhould have gone with varun aron hes got pase and capabiliy to take wiket umpire wrong decision cost indi 167 runs

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:45 GMT

    Cook is still not out of danger. He need a three figure score to make a statement. He is still not the Cook he use to be. He would need a few more knocks like this to come out of his hole. Good luck to him.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:43 GMT

    India should play on with bhuvi, shami , ishwar pandey , varun , ashwin as the five front line bowlers within have 2 genuine all rounders in these, gambhir , vijay , pujara, kohli or rohit, rahane, Dhoni ...This team could be the best in the coming matches in old Trafford and the oval. .definitely time will be in good shape and 20 wicket takers are in..

  • Welay-White-Water on July 29, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    Good shot by ENG. Big gap to fill need old day, Gavaskar-Amaranath-Vensaka sort of batting. If IND do, going to be one shot draw, not good. Those days before world war I, ENG toured South Africa by ship. Tests played until the ship come back to pick them up with a load of tea plus cinnamon from Ceylon and Barath. No time constraint. Had week long matches till win/loose. For one off Tests use cruse liners without time restriction. Never let time to pick-pocket matches.(over to ICC) . For safety don't take areal routes ,over union battle-out field. Cruse liners that should turn up here. No need to field more members though boundary lines are long …population can use hi-tech communication to keep in touch with even a week long match. Tests are the breeding place for T20, else baseball team can be formed to win T20 WC. 5 days, 5 or 3 matches series always good to have else it should cruse lines…

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 8:36 GMT

    Regarding cries for and against DRS. In my opinion, Presence of absence of DRS should not have more than a flicker of difference in the decisions. DRS is to support correct umpiring and not replace it. So it should be up to the umpires to take correct decisions and not rely on DRS to correct their mistakes. Because if their decisions are being overturned by referral, then they are unfit for the job. Maybe ICC should put a camera on the umpires to get their view for every delivery, record it and then use it to train the new umpires. That way, they should be able to reduce the errors made by umpires without relying on DRS. After that point, DRS would just be an added bonus.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:32 GMT

    Shikhar Dhawan was amongst the runs in NZ so he cannot be removed from the squad. He should however be rested for the remaining two Test matches and Gautam Gambhir should be brought in. Another option, as suggested by few could be to assure Rahane of his old spot if he fails and asked to open the innings. However opening is a specialist task and better let to specialist openers like Gambhir.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:26 GMT

    Regarding this test vijay and pujara should see off early spells from Anderson and broad by ducking and in complete defense then seeing on the loose balls take on the charge they need to be as defensive as possible. .same to be followed to the rest batters. .rahane , jadeja and bhuvi to play their natural games..India should look to play whole day till tomorrow lunch session...defense is the key for India now for utmost draw which is possible ..see off Anderson first spell ..

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 29, 2014, 8:25 GMT

    @JG2704 (post on July 28, 2014, 21:13 GMT) : Personally I'm relieved Cook didn't send the bowlers out to bat (barring Woakes for a while), as I didn't really see the point and think the key focus for England now should be ensuring 20 wickets. That will require magical efforts from the bowlers, so the less strength/time they waste on batting the better.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:24 GMT

    Stuart Binny has only himself to blame. In life, many times, it comes down to that one opportunity or one moment. In the second innings at Lords, all he had to do was play safe to score 10 runs before opening up to accelerate the scoring as was needed. If he would have done that nobody would have blamed him for not scoring runs or losing his wicket.

  • JG2704 on July 29, 2014, 8:24 GMT

    @CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 6:57 GMT) sorry , didn't read the ODI side thing so carefully. Problem is that our bowlers are the ones that need resting more than our batsmen. Personally I'd still have Cook playing tests only but am Happy with Bell playing both. Ballance should play tests only. Re the declaration , I'd have sent Broad and Jordan in with license and if they had survived we could have declared overnight on maybe 620 or thereabouts. Then we have a 420 follow on mark - just a thought

  • ramli on July 29, 2014, 8:23 GMT

    @entryholedia ... this Indian team is certainly showing more gumption than 2011 team ... we are certainly competing now than before ... in a batsman friendly pitch, the sixth batsman may provide the needed succour to save this match ... let us wait and watch ... the series will be India 2-0

  • ishaan1997 on July 29, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    The reason India are in pressure situation is due to the selection. Dhoni should have picked a extra bowler in varun aaron or ishwar pandey and ashwin in place of jadeja. Actually, in my opinion, Shami should have been given a rest. Now, i think that both kumar and shami are tired,pankaj to an extent too. For the next test , now if Ishant is not fit, then it could be very bad for india since kumar and shami would be totally worn out if they bowl again in this test and it is upto the indian batsman to give their bowlers a lot of rest before the final two tests.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    I feel gambir in for dhawan, either rohit or kohli one to be retained based on their this test performance , ashwin in for jadeja , pandey in for pankaj Singh, considering bhuvi as auspicious all rounder , if india play with these changes in the coming matches and play to their utmost strengths, India will be the team to be beaten this series..consider this ..

  • DesaiVijay on July 29, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    I pity Binny! Poor fellow, he was selected as a useful seam bowler and at Tentbridge, was handed a 40 over old ball on a reasonably good batting day. At Lords second innings, he was not considered as a bowler at all (Fortunately England Batsman tried far too many times to play rising balls and India could win).

    If Binny could be taken out just because he could not take a wicket in 20 overs, What would happen to Pankaj because as a genuine bowler he could not take a wicket in 35 overs and went for more than 3.5 runs per over. It all depends on MSD!!!!!!!

    I appeal to ECB not to give too many buttered food items to this Indian team players!! As it is they cling on to only a few of the catches that comes to them.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    Why can't the 3rd umpire step in when there is such a bad decision? - there is no "DRS" as such - just simple TV replays - they are quick and are shown on the TV that the 3rd umpire is using..so they see the same as everyone else on replay - quick word in the standing umpires ear to say - "you've messed up" - the batsman is back in and the game continues - no reviews from the teams required. Even a LBW shout could be "analysed" quickly and if it is clearly wrong corrected.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    Very poor stuff from India. No chance as India is going to lose by an innings!! poor captaincy, slip fielding...........oh God..........disaster.......team selection.........wake up selectors!!

  • Henry_Mancini on July 29, 2014, 8:13 GMT

    @Arun Bose: "Great to see such fans in cricket as cricket needs them more than we need cricket". I agree, this is a correct statement.

    I just wonder, what would happen if such fans were to vote with their feet?

    Would performances improve if they were linked to support, in particular, any support that contributes revenue?

    Would dwindling attendances, merchandise sales, social media followings etc prompt whatever changes are necessary to improve performances?

    If so, what would that result indicate regarding motivation?

    PS. I can't fault your enthusiasm and optimism. I have also said in the past that I hope India win. This is the same for every game we play - I hope we win. I also know that such hopes do not affect the outcome.

    That said, if you had the opportunity, what changes would you make to: 1) Improve significantly our side's away performances 2) Make them a better side overall?

    Or are you satisfied with things as they are?

    Just curious.

    Anyway, enjoy the game.

  • on July 29, 2014, 8:10 GMT

    The advantage India have is that they are 1-0 up in the series , so I'm sure no one would blame them if they tried to bat slowly for two days to kill the game off with a draw as they cannot win it from here. First session is crucial as if India see it to lunch without a loss or maybe just two down then I'm sure they'd bat it out.

  • a0m0a7n on July 29, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    India are unlucky! Decisions didnt go their way like bell, ballance and butler! Also that dropped catch cost us dearly. England should have been bowled out for 250 maximum!

    Think it is time Ashwin and Varon Aaron are bought into the side. We need a genuine quicky that aaron and a decent spinner which is ashwin. Also, drop Dhawan and bring in GG

  • sanjay37b on July 29, 2014, 8:07 GMT

    It's high time Jadeja and Dhawan should be replaced by Aswin and Gambhir.They have no TEST class.Dhawan is a HYPE and India suffers. The slip cordon is pathetic and don't now where to stand.A step further and they would have notched all catches.They are not prepared to dive and hold the catch.The reflexes are slow as snail. Dhoni don't know how to set the field.He should be replaced as early as possible.The result at the end of test series should be in India's favour 2-1.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 29, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    @vkias, I think both sides are very inexperienced and young, as they both have a number of players with fewer than 20 caps, I don't remember a time when two teams were so inexperienced, with 14 of the 22 players having less than 20 caps, 4 with 20-30 caps, and only 4 with more than 50 caps.

    4/5 of the players on the field have less than 30 caps that's got to be a modern record.

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    @Arun Bose I thought he looked exhausted on Sunday when I went to the match and I also thought he bowled too wide, which is very unusual for him. A rest would do him good. I also think Shami ought to be rested.

    The scheduling is ludicrous.

  • Darkmanx12155 on July 29, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    Oh Ishant. if u only u were fit enough, this England team would have been bowled out for less than 150! Get well soon to destroy England in the next game

  • on July 29, 2014, 7:39 GMT

    India just to believe in its traditional batting strengths. Though England frontline bowlers found substance in pitch, we can milk Jordan and others. This is now or never moment.. C'mon india!!

  • Henry_Mancini on July 29, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    Interesting peripheral themes in this thread.

    One that caught my attention is the notion of supporting one's national team "through thick and thin" as it were. A noble position I suppose.

    But there are two sides to that coin.

    Imagine this: You employ a team to achieve a desired result in business. From within this well paid team you appoint a team leader. The leader selects personnel for each project and is answerable for team performances as well as their own. The team moves between two cities where major projects are based.

    Over a period of years your team delivers good results in city A but only rarely deliver expected results city B. They often embarrass your company name there. You hear excuses for continued failures when in city B. Some seem logical but others are fanciful at best. Your leader performs poorly in city B as a matter of routine and always seems to choose the wrong personnel there.

    What do you do?

    Last I checked, sport is as much a business as any other.

  • on July 29, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    @CodandChips- I think Kumar will be rested for the next match..Poor chap bowler his heart out for India, He definitely deserves a break..

  • 5wombats on July 29, 2014, 7:34 GMT

    @csowmi7 on (July 29, 2014, 7:18 GMT) "Our poor fielding cost us (India) the series in New Zealand". Really? The terrible batting and awful bowling had nothing to do with it then? Honest question....

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    @Arun Bose.. No stones are thrown on a fruitless tree. The team must be doing something right to irk these others. Just enjoy and appreciate good cricket be it Bangladesh winning a match against India or a SL legend making a century outside SC (Sarcasm intended ;) )

  • csowmi7 on July 29, 2014, 7:18 GMT

    If India wants to do well abroad we need to firstly accept the use of DRS and secondly improve our slip fielding. Our poor fielding cost us the series in New Zealand and even this match could have been completely different if jadeja hadnt dropped cook and if we had DRS. Our batting is our strength and I believe they have the ability to go on to become a truly great batting lineup in the future. Everyone knows that India isn't blessed with the best bowlers and that is why our fielders need to take whatever chances is presented to them. Fielding was a major reason England lost the Ashes and is the reason why the Aussie and South African bowlers look even more menacing. Ashwin should also be given a chance instead of Jadeja. His batting technique is far better as shown by his batting average of near 40. Given the chance he is a much more attacking bowler as well with more variations. Its surprising that a guy who is one of the fastest to 100 test wickets in all time is left out.

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 7:16 GMT

    Also I wonder if India will consider resting Kumar. Considering some of the extraordinary economy rates he has in ODIs with the new ball, surely he'll be vital for the world cup?

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 7:14 GMT

    In addition to my suggestion that the top order miss the world cup to work on their long format game.

    Will any of the top 6 be missed by the ODI side? Robson can't even get into Middlesex's white-ball sides. Cook hasn't scored runs in a while in ODIs, and Morgan can captain. Also there are many opener options to replace Cook and Bell if needed, such as Hales, Lumb, Vince, Roy, Trego, Carberry whoever. Ballance and Root crossed the line between stability and stagnating the run rate in the ODIs against Sri Lanka imo. Ali was not in the side for that series, and ought to work on his bowling, which has potential but lacks bite atm.

    However this wouldst work for the bowlers. Anderson is 4th in the ODI rankings. Broad was the one standout player in the Ashes in Australia. Jordan with his batting, fielding and bowling looks like a useful white-ball cricketer. Perhaps if these guys are going to play in the ODI squad, they should be rested from any test series we have following the WC.

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 7:09 GMT

    I repost to see what other people think:

    England's top 6 have all scored some runs this summer but the concerns are there. Cook and Robson outside off stump. Ali against the short ball. Arguably the whole team against the short ball. Bell and Cook's general bad form before this game. Etc.

    With a huge gap before the next test series after this series, here's a suggestion. This top order forgets about the world cup and white-ball cricket in the short term. They all go back to their counties, then have holidays at the end of the summer. Then after resting they're work on their issues and perhaps try and play some cricket. Be it domestically, for the Lions, whatever.

  • on July 29, 2014, 7:09 GMT

    @GRVJPR- Oh yes I remember now..You see my previous comment, I wrote "I think I am the only Indian fan".. Yes, You too supported from the very beginning.. Great to see such fans in cricket as cricket needs them more than we need cricket.. @Eclipse099- Yes, You're right that hating other team or player is not the way to be a true fan but when you see constant hate for your team, You can't do anything but hit back and hit back hard! It seems like every other fan wants India to lose but I don't understand why? Why so much hate for Indian team? Simply no reason..

  • on July 29, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    To england bowlers - when will you learn that the best line during bowling is on the off stump line or just about one or two inches out side the off stump line? They bowl every line other than in and around the off stump line as if they have some aversion to this line. This line is the most difficult for the batsmen to tackle because this line can hit the stumps (getting clean bowled), inside edges hitting the stumps, LBW, catch behind the stumps, catch in the slip cordon, in addition to other possibilities of getting the batsmen out, but the line they choose to bowl deprives them of many of these options of getting the batsmen out. The batsmen all over the world have become very intelligent nowadays and have more ways of defending or playing the ball so the best approach for a bowler is to bowl simply the tight line (and tight length) rather than trying so many things.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:59 GMT

    @GRVJPR and @ Arun Bose.

    Both of you had been die-hard fans of India, through thick and thin, almost to a fault. Almost bordering on fanaticism. Great cheer leaders, both of you. Only minor point is that the former appeared in these fora earlier; but the latter is more strident in his support. Shall we say, an honourable draw.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    I really dont understand why Warne has to be part of any discussion regarding Indian spinners and then his record in India is offered as justification for poor performance of Indian spinners abroad. Point is Warne beats all Indian spinners in the rest of 9 test match playing nations, so it is futile to push his record for non performance of spinners. The larger point that why overseas spinners dont succeed in India has to do with the SG ball too.But as the last night's spell from Anderson showed, the pitch is nowhere flat, infact its quick and with humid conditions today we might see England shutting the door firmly in India's face.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    @social_monster09- Why not after Nov as well? Let's be friends as long as our teams plays cricket.. Any sport should bring ppl together not create differences among each other.. I don't hate Aussie cricket but some Aussie fans hate Indian cricket for no reason at all.. Maybe we scare them more than other teams.. What you say? Do you hate Indian cricket?

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    @ Sayak Bhattacharyya "I don't believe in jingoism. The way England bowled yesterday...." I don't think England bowled any special yesterday. Just like whole series english bowlers allowed Indian batsmen to leave 85% of balls. If the trend continues no way england can beat India. And if England can't beat India in this situation they will never be able to to beat India. Indian winning this series, that's written in STONE.

  • krishkingnishanth on July 29, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    some comments on this article that say that MSD does not know how to captain in a 5 day game are utterly ridiculous. He has more test wins than most captains who have played the game. He is a win away from being no.6 on the all time list. Yes the overseas percentage is small but then does it not mean that he has been able to carve out more test wins on supposedly unresponsive Indian pitches than anybody in the world? So the Indian tests are not 5 day matches or what?

  • CodandChips on July 29, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    @JG2704 I can see what you're saying re declaration but it would pretty much guarantee a long time in the field for our bowlers. Anderson and Broad have looked exhausted enough already in this series. With Anderson 4th in the ODI rankings, and Broad our best bowler in the Ashes in Australia, both will be so vital for the world cup, so should be protected. However we are pretty much no-hopers for the world cup. Also hopefully Anderson will get banned for a bit. Like with the injuries to Stokes and Root in the winter, it would act as an enforced rest.

    Re the ODI side do you see my point that I doubt the test match top-order would be missed by the ODI side. However Anderson, Broad, Jordan and Buttler will be vital.

    Re the weather: dryish (no rain), cloudy, hot.

    Please publish and delete the bits you don't like cricinfo

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    It is high time India bring in somebody as replacement for shami & replace Rohit with Ashwin. strength our bowling first. We desperately need a genuine spinner & pacer.

  • DustBowl on July 29, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    Geoffrey Boycott was very disappointed about progress after lunch in order to achieve a victory - agreed? Lunch: England - 358/3 in 119.0 overs (IR Bell 68, JE Root 2) Drinks: England - 388/4 in 132.0 overs (IR Bell 91, MM Ali 4) Shouldn't the senior player &/or captain read the situation better?

  • vkumar_086 on July 29, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    @Arun Bose....yes you are spot on mate...in last 30 tests in India,27 ended in results (WI lost 0-2, Aus lost 0-4, SA drew 2-2, Eng 2-1) and not in boring draws like Colombo tests...today Indian batsmen will make merry of England attack...English bowlers could not make use of greenest pitch in Lords, i dont think that they will bowl better on this flat pitch

  • CurrentPresident on July 29, 2014, 6:51 GMT

    I wouldn't be surprised if India follow on. They have a good batting line up on paper, but it is quite fragile.

    If England manage to generate reverse swing (which India have no hope of doing, now that Zaheer isn't there), things could get tough for India. I think that is the strategy England have employed with this pitch.

    If India get out cheaply, Dhoni will again go back to holding mode waiting for an England declaration. That will leave a lot of pressure on the Indian second innings - they are unlikely to save it there. So this Indian innings will determine the outcome of the match.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:51 GMT

    @dganger- Ishant Sharma is still a kid if we consider his age only, 25 years old.. Bowlers and batsmen evolve over time in cricket and Ishant is evolving still and he has come good this year, It shows he's improving as a bowler day by day..I never said don't give chance to Umesh and Aaron but Ishant certainly deserves his place in the XI..I don't know abt other countries but he's an Indian and he will play for India as long as we want him to and he wants to.. Even Malcolm Marshall didn't had 174 wickets when he was 25 years old..Ishant has.. He's evolving and by 32 years age he will be one of the greats of th game..Yes, He played for 6 years but he was injury prone too..Yes, He wasn't consistent but now he is..I don't know what is ur problem with "our" bowler..It's not like he's represenring Australia.. What abt Johnson? Before and after that famous ODI series in India last year..Every aussie fan wanted his head but after ashes suddenly he bcame a great bowler?

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:46 GMT

    I don't believe in jingoism. The way England bowled yesterday, it never looked a flat track. Even Pujara was beaten quite a few times. But if Indian batters buckle down, 400 is a realistic target on this track which will need India to bat four more sessions.England will never declare before they have a lead of 350 (180 in the second innings) and that will take them at least 2 sessions. With the lack of spinners in England side, I seriously doubt if they can bowl India out in one day. The key for India is to bat till lunch tomorrow and score 400 in the first innings. However, I must admit only one team can win this test from here, and that team is not India.

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 6:44 GMT

    @social_monster09 -> That's a good point. Supporting one team or the other is not bad. What is bad is undermining the achievements of the other teams which is wrong. Or calling the other country/their fans as enemy. One should be a fan of good and consistent cricket. I'm an Indian fan who enjoys Johnson's bowling even when he dismisses Yuvraj Singh for a duck.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    @Posted by landl47 on (July 29, 2014, 1:37 GMT): This is extracted from your comments:

    "... I don't believe the wicket is as easy as the combination of England's batting and India's bowling made it look..."

    Absolutely right.

  • vkumar_086 on July 29, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4 ....where were those bowlers who can swing ball in both directions in Lords test, where the conditions also suited them with greenest pitch...please stop become embarrassing yourself

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    @ Arun Bose, I am supporting Indian team Ishant Sharma since the day he made his debut. People would remember my 'yes we can' campaign on this forum where I asked people to start their comments with 'yes we can' if they belive India can win. I have explained how India has wasted him (Ishant) as first change bowlers on dead wickets where he is asked to contain batsmen so that out spinner can get whole lot of wickets. Mate I've been the biggest supporter of this indian team.

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    And I just have the feeling that Sharma can not do any wrong in this match. It could be his match. But I hope it's his day tomorrow and today he doesn't get to bat at all. Kohli has been due since long and he should get going on this pitch. If Bell and Cook can, so should Kohli.

  • ullasjp on July 29, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    If India loose this test match they'll loose all the credits they got for their hard work in the first 2 test matches.. so please pull your socks up and play positively.

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 6:30 GMT

    England can actually win this match if the Indian batting comes up with a collapse and Cook gives up his defensive mindset and come up with a sporting declaration in second Innings. No point in leaving the declaration until too late like we saw in SL-SA second match. But that is given there is a reasonable lead for England to play with

  • yogicoolboy on July 29, 2014, 6:27 GMT

    I think it is High time they bring Gambhir in place of Dhawan. India might have missed a trick by not picking Ashwin. Considering England huge score Rohits Batting may come in handy

  • social_monster09 on July 29, 2014, 6:26 GMT

    @Arun Bose- Then we are friends from now. Because I am a diehard fan of my Aussie team & you are of your Indian team. Supporting one's country or team is not bad. They need our support we give them that's a true sportsmanship from a fan. But we will meet each other in Nov when India came here in down under. Till then we are friends.

  • dganger on July 29, 2014, 6:26 GMT

    @Arun bose ...Ishant Sharma needs to be much much more consistent to prove his worth. He is extremely lucky in first place to have retained his place with his prolonged average bowling, apart from India and Dhoni's leadership, Ishant wouldnt stand any chance of getting selected in any other national teams. Statistics of last 3-4 months can be flulke, bot not of last 6 years. He is not a kid anymore, if he is bending his back now good for him and for India, but isnt he suppose to do always? Was he in hibernation till now? isnt a player will eventually take few wickets someday when given so many chances? Dont u think Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron deserves same number of chances? if not for 6 years atleast for 1 year ? Ishant is not doing any favour by bending his backs, he is just started clearing huge backlogs of his failure by finally showing some intent.

  • yogicoolboy on July 29, 2014, 6:24 GMT

    Hoping for good scores from the Indian Batsman.

  • Eclipse0990 on July 29, 2014, 6:18 GMT

    It was a good play by England. First just drop the anchor and tire out the bowlers on such a pitch which was not doing much(just a bit for the bowlers). Then when the bowlers are tired, let Buttler lose on them. In my opinion, India can do the exact same thing and maybe even push towards a win if they bowl better in second Innings. Play out two sessions on third day peacefully and let loose in the third. If they play sensibly, they can score 300 in one day here. The main aim here should be to reach within 100 runs of England with 40-50 overs to spare on 4th day. 270 overs remain in this match and India should be looking to play 200-220 of those over two innings. England won't need more than 30-40 overs of play anyway if they manage to get a huge lead(250 runs maybe) which looks improbable given Indian batting line up. But a collapse can never be counted out. So it's in hands of Indian batting right now. Tire out english bowlers and then go for counter attack with Sharma, Rahane, Dhoni.

  • on July 29, 2014, 6:13 GMT

    @social_monster09- Then you haven't met me yet, You should have written some Indian fans in place of all Indian fans..Not all Indian fans bash their team when they don't do well no matter what..I was the only Indian fan who supported the inclusion of ISHANT SHARMA in the team before this series began..I think I was the only Indian fan who knew India will do well in this series despite "hate-bombs" showered on my team from every corner on this forum before this series began.. And I am also the only Indian fan who will support India even if I die and my soul would cheer for my team from stands all across the globe.. Do you have fans like me in Australia? Who will support their team in afterlife as well? So, Don't generalise based on some negative comments from some Indian fans.. We Indians love our country more than you can ever imagine and we don't need any certificate from a foreigner for that.. I am the biggest, die-hard, ever optimistic fan of Team India, Cut me I #Bleedblue

  • vkumar_086 on July 29, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4 ....where were those bowlers who can swing ball in both directions in Lords test, where the conditions also suited them with greenest pitch...please stop become embarrassing yourself

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 6:00 GMT

    I am supporting Dhawan here. No way one can say he threw his wickets. Was there any slog, any fancy shot, any switch hit? No. He was out to good balls. Also these are his first tours. Even Vijay struggled for his first few tests. This is natural as you haven't played the bowlers, not used to different styles of bowling. There is no shame to getting out against Steyn, Morkel, Anderson. They could get anyone out on their day. It will be a huge mistake to drop dhawan now. He is a confidence player. He will never be able to come back again. We will loose a very good team men.

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:59 GMT

    I see this match a clear draw. Becsuse for those thinking about India losing, the batting appears very deep to get dismissed within a day. They are good enough to score 400 on such a pitch without a scare. The likes of Kohli Rohit Rahane -- all of these three have had a good kickstart to their international careers..so one of them may even try and get the big score India needs.. Plus, for India to really lose, England will have to get all these players out twice.. (Getting Vijay out twice in 2 innings looks like he is going to play two sessions worth of deliveries first!)

  • FX_5 on July 29, 2014, 5:55 GMT

    Well done Dhoni for giving chances to all the OUT OF FARM eng players to get form and win the series, I would say Ind lost the series already by not going with the proper 11. Eng is one side which will come back in an innings and they did it exactly. Ind should have utilized their weaknesses to have won 2 out 3 tests. Remember Aus vs Eng....what matters is the Beginning...Ind should have won the 1st as well had Ashwin being played

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:51 GMT

    Even in the last over of the day england bowler Woakes made sure that indian batsmen did not have to play around 5 out of the 6 deliveries, and through out the first innings of indian batting which consisted of 14 overs bowled by england bowlers captain cook and his bowlers made sure that indian batsmen did not have to play about 80% or more of the deliveries.Even after seeing how effective a tight line and length bowling by indian bowlers can pay rich dividends in terms both run control and wicket taking england still persisting with their relatively short of pitch and wide of the stumps or middle and leg stump deliveries which do not get lots of wickets rather only helps in giving lots of runs to indian batsmen. when will england learn bowling better than this. they should have taken at least 2 wickets yesterday evening, if india were bowling with 569 runs first innings score they would have definitely bowled better than this and took more wickets than england bowlers.

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:42 GMT

    @dganger- Ishant Sharma is the fourth highest wicket taker in test cricket this year so there was nothing fluke abt his performance in the last match..Try to give credit where it's due..He broke his back to earn those wickets, English batsmen didn't gifted them to him..If we use the same logic then Johnson was more lucky than Sharma to get English wickets in his "backyard" this year...Nobody gifts their wicket in test cricket..It's a very mean and cruel format of cricket..Be sportive..

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:39 GMT

    I want to highlight a few points mentioned by certain posters on this topic. Firstly, the current Indian team has only one player who has played in England for the rest of these guys it is their first series. That being said, we are still leading this series. Secondly Indian balling wasn't the best, but certain decision (umpiring) if gone by the Indian side the scores would have been different this day, not to forget certain dropped catches too! Thirdly, certain members who are saying that England will take 20 wickets and have written of Kohli and Dhoni... We shall certainly see if that happens. I don't see a result from this match but if it does I see India winning this match.

  • jmcilhinney on July 29, 2014, 5:38 GMT

    @GRVJPR on (July 29, 2014, 5:08 GMT), while England certainly had their share of luck, the problem for India is that now that Cook and Bell have been able to play long innings, they may have turned a corner and won't need luck to make more runs hereafter. It's by no means guaranteed but they will both be feeling far more comfortable than they were prior to this game. Buttler too will be feeling much more settled after making runs and will be more likely to be able to make more in the future. As for Rahane's catch, there's no way that you can say for sure that that was out. India fans will tend to think it was out and England fans will tend to think it wasn't but the truth is noone can be sure. To my eye, it looked like it might be out from in front but from behind it looked to have been grassed. By the way, why do some names rate all upper case while Ballance doesn't even rate a capital B?

  • social_monster09 on July 29, 2014, 5:36 GMT

    After seeing so many comments from Indian fans i think that they start loosing their confidence on Indian team just after 1 match. I am a neutral (Aussie) but I was never comment anything negative for my team when the time was against us. Support your country even if they will loose this test or series.

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    I have faith on this batting line up that they will ensure a safe draw on this pitch. Wonder, People want to drop Kohli after just couple of failures. He is the best Indian batsman over the last 3 years across all the formats. One change definitely needed is replacing Jaddu with Ashwin. Jadeja is not at all the test level spinner in overseas conditions. If Ashwin is also not good, why the selectors picked him in first place. He has the variations and looks definitely a test standard bowler. Dhoni has to give some time to him to settle down. Even great Kumble struggled in these pitches in initial years.

  • jmcilhinney on July 29, 2014, 5:32 GMT

    @srh25 on (July 29, 2014, 5:05 GMT), so you've determined that Woakes is ordinary based on one over where he produced prodigious swing? Either you are the best judge in the world or you're simply making things up. I know which I think.

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:31 GMT

    So far it looks England's game with a 6-0 clear session wise wins. but where this match is actually poised is an easy draw India has lost the wicket of an out of form Dhawan who was definitely fighting for a spot before the match began. India can look to bat for 5 more sessions from here with the batting line up looking strong with rohit rahane kohli dhoni waiting to come on the crease. Also a lower order boost will be expected with bhuvi and jadeja. match is highly open right now!

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    India have only themselves to blame. Luckily they have batsmen who can respond to the challenge. Let.s see.

  • fairfan70 on July 29, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Good bowling by India. Now their batters have to match their bowlers and Dhawan did his bit already.

  • AshwinizXI on July 29, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    I am already looking forward to the fourth test. This one seems to be heading for a draw. Unless, of course, Indian batsmen bat poorly in the name of machismo, which they are quite capable of doing.

  • ladycricfan on July 29, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    Thanks MSD for your services. Some of us don't believe that you are acting in the best interest of the team anymore. Rohit Sharma may have been lucky with Balance's wicket but it was a good ball which turned and bounced and passed the outside edge. Ashwin would've troubled England as Rohit did who have as many as 6 lefthanded batsmen playing. Vijay and Pujara survived Anderson storm. The pitch is taking spin and Ali and also Balance will be used by Cook more than the previous matches. India need to bat well to secure a draw.

  • on July 29, 2014, 5:23 GMT

    @GRVJPR- True, Bowlers like Shane Warne and Murli averaging 45 on spin friendly tracks in India is more disgusting than Jadeja.. And those were their career averages and Jadeja's playing his first series in England.. So, Warney and Murli were mediocre as well, right?

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 5:13 GMT

    @Sniper, too early to make such whole sale changes. If england can wait for cook and bell for 25 matches to come good, why should we loose patience after 4 innings.

  • dganger on July 29, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    Till the time Indian test team have a good for nothing captain and strategic like Dhoni India's success will be always based on chance and fluke. His mind boggling tenacity of sticking to average players and leaving out true potential players hurting India big time and will continue to do so. Over the last 3 years Indian bowling in oversees condition has been a disaster, we all know that, apart from the last innings Ishant Sharma's fluke, which is just a fluke, Dhoni has been adamant of not making drastical changes in his bowling set up as well as defensive and negative thinking. U have Varun Aron and Umesh Yadav 2 talented players in your team and they sitting outside. Thats 4 u, he will never change, and will alwz stick wid avg bowlers no matter what happens and how much fans, commemtators, cricket lovers keep on shouting and crying, he will not change. Very very unfortunate for Indian team and fans across globe

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 5:08 GMT

    Although a dreamy though but this can happen in 2nd innings of england - COOK won't be again droipped by JADEJA on 14, Bell won't be given not out by umpire on zero, moeen would again be out to short ball, buttler will not be given not out when RAHANE takes his catch, GARY balance nick will reach first slip. All this is highly possible. If it happens, INDIA 2- ENG 0.

  • srh25 on July 29, 2014, 5:05 GMT

    well there is nothing much for the england bowlers except anderson n broad..jordan n woakes looks ordinary ... india can bat well n they have some gud players..if cook bell can bat why not kohli n rohit ....we lost some oppurtunities though n also some bad decisions ... ballance n bell were lucky to get their tons otherwise belll is out of form ... inida will come strong n no way england can win this

  • GRVJPR on July 29, 2014, 5:00 GMT

    People think its their right to insult Jadeja. Please explain me why Shane Warne and Muralitharan avergae above 45 with ball in India. I will stop supporting jadeja. Don't say Indians play spin better and other excuses.

  • Sniper on July 29, 2014, 4:59 GMT

    It is time that Dhawan is dropped and Gambir is brought in. Kohli does not seem capable of making runs in England. Rahane can bat at No 4. Gambhir can be made vice- captain. Ashwin can come in the vacancy created by resting Kohli to strengthen our spin bowling. All this may go a long way in preventing a 3-1 series defeat. Sniper

  • social_monster09 on July 29, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Give Mitchell Johnson, Harris or Steyn a chance to play in both teams then see the difference in both sides. Result should be then extracted from these dead pitches & then everyone will enjoy this series.

  • VKohlitheGreat on July 29, 2014, 4:54 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4 : Despite being an ardent Indian fan, I wish the easily best new ball spell by Eng continues into the third day too so that atleast one of ur wish/prediction comes true.

  • Shuraim on July 29, 2014, 4:53 GMT

    No notable contribution from dhawan plus he dropped alistair cook, react before it gets too late and drop him for the next 2 matches and give gambhir a go.

  • parikshit_Ops on July 29, 2014, 4:52 GMT

    Remove M S Dhoni from captaincy. Its high time, now. Thanks for your services but you now play as a keeper and try to prove you worth in face of competition against Naman Ojha, Wriddhiman Saha and Samson. Make Pujara a captain, he has lead Saurashtra team in the past plus we all know that he has an excellent temparament, a good batting technique , appetite for runs so no doubt would be a part of Indian Team for a long time. Playing Jadeja and resting Ashwin, how much you will do for your favorite ones, Dhoni? Jadeja may play but then we would have to drop R Sharma, I guess. Almost everybody agrees that we are short of bowling strength. We need Ashwin badly.

  • on July 29, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    If ppl think that India will be allout today on this flatter-than-colombo track then they are just either kidding themselves or they haven't followed this series or they are just too naive or they just hate India.. Anyway, It will be good batting test as bowlers will be reduced to being just canon fodders.. And they say India prepares flat tracks..huh! Atleast one kind of bowler gets help from Indian tracks..Spinners rule on those tracks.. The most disgusting test wickets ever are on display in this series except what we saw at Lord's..A green mamba! I hope ppl get the real feel of what flat tracks are watching this series..Stop blaming India for preparing flat tracks, We prepare turners which helps spinners not these flithy flat tracks..

  • sergio11 on July 29, 2014, 4:41 GMT

    Ind can still score 700 on that track...Ind bat very deep.. and there is absolutely nothing in the pitch once the ball gets old..so the key will be to survive the new ball with out losing a wicket..yes England bowler look much much better than previous two test matches...still see the ind batting..2 in form players in the pitch..Rahane to come..and most importantly...2 batmen who really wants to prove them self yet to come..Kholi and Rohit..mind you Rohit is yet to score a century outside subcontinent and kholi is due..dont forget both of those guys are not out of form,its a golden opportunity for both..i am sure one of them will get a really big score..

  • on July 29, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    In the first test match all odds are against India and it was drawn and in the second match all are asking the head of of Cook the captain and Inida become a world class team with Ishant sharma being the best. Now once cook scored and Bell and Balance adding England became a class team and INdia become a poor one. This not permutation combination or foretelling. IT is cricket One session is enough to turn the table. Do not under estimate all the players they are of test class. Enjoy the game and give due credit to all.

  • on July 29, 2014, 4:32 GMT

    Unfortunately india doesn't have a mystery spinner like Ajmal , even if Ashwin had played i dont think it would have troubled the Batsmen . Secondly shikhar dhawan's inclusion amuses me when he has got such poor technique as an opener . His inability to counter the new ball burst is a serious concern to the team . Gambhir on the other hand may not be looking promising in the nets , which i feel might be the reason why the management went ahead with dhawan , but with consistent failures from him its better to include gambhir in the next test.

  • on July 29, 2014, 4:19 GMT

    We shall see what England bowlers could do on this disgusting flat pitch.. Indian batsmen will make a merry on this flat pitch better than England today as there will be no clouds whatsoever..Only bright sunshine(Today's forecast for Southampton, Checked on my accuweather app)and it will make the pitch go even more flatter.. Test cricket will die if cricket boards come up with these disgusting wickets..No contest between bat and ball at all.. Dhawan was already out of form so ppl shouldn't make too much out of it..Our form batsmen are still on the crease and Kohli to follow..English players will chase leather all day today.. Our out of form batsmen too will come back in form and this test will end in a draw.. Keep dreaming India haters..India's not losing this test nor England's gonna win it..Let's move on to Old Trafford and hope there's no flat pitch again..

  • on July 29, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    Haha...wow people lining up to criticize Dhoni's strategy. Bhuvi bats at No.9 for an Indian batting that is currently clicking. How can one expect the bowlers to take 20 wickets on a docile flat track.

  • on July 29, 2014, 3:58 GMT

    First of all GET dhoni out of the team.. can't bat, can't catch, can't stump - y d hell is he in d team??? He can captain a side from d balcony if he wants.. Get non performers out of d team.. Gambhir wld have been an advantage here tiring d bowlers.. Ashwin shd get a chance ahead of jadeja fr d next test and shami shd b replaced by ishant or Aaron... Slip catching is worse dan Bangladesh.. Dis way no team can win.

  • yogicoolboy on July 29, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    India have to bat for 3 to 4 session if they have to get close to england target. But their main target will be 370. Lets hope for a good days Cricket in the remaining days

  • pitch_curator on July 29, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    @ Albert_cambell - By your logic, the so called "legend" Warne's average is 43 in India. He would have struggled to get into a state team forget about the national team in India with that average. He would have been used as a net bowler to bring batsmen back to form. What is your comment for that?? You are not the only guy who knows how to use statistics selectively. lol

  • on July 29, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    There is not much need to worry. Though Anderson and co. did better bowling than Indians. Indian bowlers did not do too bad. Catches were dropped and a bad umpiring decision added to their woes. Besides I don't see any reason why everybody is underestimating Indian batsmen. Our batsmen had batted well in this series so far. Also it is a fact that our batting is anyday better than english batting line up.If Ballance , Bell can do it, so can Pijara , Kohli and Rahane. And once they get in touch. ...english bowlers will look ordinary. Failure of Dhawan does not surprise me. So, it's too early if English team is looking to celebrate their victory.

  • jmcilhinney on July 29, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    A case could certainly be made for England having declared earlier but it's certainly not the no-brainer that some would have us believe. As one of the commentators pointed out (Nasser Hussain I believe), England will almost certainly have to score those runs at some point and it was easier to do it when batting conditions were best, Buttler was in full flow and the India players were all tired than in a second innings. England had a short, sharp burst at the top order and now they get to come back in the morning with a still relatively new ball, bowlers refreshed and batsmen starting again. I see no issue with the decision that was made. If they'd declared earlier then maybe more wickets would have fallen but it's far from a given.

  • on July 29, 2014, 3:48 GMT

    I felt bad for Jadeja who bowled 45 overs despite having no big breakthroughs. Afraid He should not slowly lose the roll of all-rounder and become none who can be neither used as bowler nor all rounder.

  • Realistic_cri_fan on July 29, 2014, 3:47 GMT

    @ cooldxve Even the Indian bowlers looked threatening in the last hour of the first day.You can't judge the bowlers after just 1 hour.After 1 hour in the morning the pitch becomes flat.So the morning session is important.If the England bowlers didn't get wickets, it's hard for them.But don't worry,Indian batsmen have the capability to get out by themselves.

  • Oracle_Magus on July 29, 2014, 3:46 GMT

    It's good to see a rejuvenated England side After a long time. Once you hit rock bottom the only way to go is upwards. Butler is having a dream debut and it's unfortunate that he could not convert it to a century. The fireworks from bell has indicated that this team has got their confidence back. With A win here for England and the series levelled, it will get more exciting. India has got a long batting line up this time and we can expect them to fight till the very end. Though Indian lineup could do good with another bowler, MSD knows best with regards to the selection. He has got a win for India at Lords from nowhere using a so called 'ineffective' bowler, and now he is banded to be India's hot property. So let's wait and watch what comes next. Cheers!!!

  • Realistic_cri_fan on July 29, 2014, 3:35 GMT

    Ballance-Clearly nicked when 10 not given, scored 156 runs. Bell-Plumb in front when 0 not given, scored 167 runs. Butler-catch turned down when 0, scored 85 runs. Total-146+167+85=418.Total score scored by England-569-418=151. I don't know why India hating DRS.If the match is lost the reason should be India's arrogance to ignore DRS.I don't blame the umpires.Butler was given not out by the third umpired so basically India let England to score 313 runs(incl. Ballance and bell)

  • on July 29, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    Would someone tell Alistair Cook that cricket is a team game, not a platform for individual glory. He will possibly rue not declaring sooner in order for Ballance to attempt his hundred.

  • FlatTrakBully on July 29, 2014, 3:25 GMT

    Well played England!!..Oops..Cook and KP stats are more or less similar. So we knew what cook did.

  • Minder37 on July 29, 2014, 3:19 GMT

    Vikas-Bhutani, Dream on..........

  • dunger.bob on July 29, 2014, 3:19 GMT

    I had to check the score twice to make sure I was looking at the right game! What a turnaround! 570 runs at a good pace, this can't be England!

    But it is and it's nice to see. Even an Aussie like me gets a bit sick of England scraping the bottom of the Test barrel. I can only try to imagine how the Eng. fans have been feeling lately. .. Anyway, this is Englands best start in ages. Don't blow it boys.

  • Albert_cambell on July 29, 2014, 3:14 GMT

    Anil Kumbles overseas bowling record.In Australia 37.73, in Pakistan 42.41, in Sri Lanka 44.63,in england 41.41, in New Zealand 40.27. Sadly this is the best spinner ever produced by Indian cricket. I guess that shows the quality of spin bowling in India. I am guessing Imran Tahir,Danish Kaneria, Dharmasena would be called as a spin legends by indian fans if they ever get a chance to play for India.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    The new ball spell by Eng was easily best in series.Jimmy was making it hoop,Broad was bowling faster,menacingly than he had in ages,Jordan too showed threat.Even Woakes was swinging it bananas in that 1 over.Expect much more-and lot of Wkt-of same today.

  • _-Will-_ on July 29, 2014, 2:39 GMT

    Fantastic effort by India so far!!

    We have allowed Cook and Bell some much needed respite! It must not have been easy seeing those guys under so much pressure!

    Out of compassion to a young debutant, we have done our part to ease the young Jos Buttler into test cricket ever so nicely! And just to show we're not playing favourites, our own debutant was given no such luxuries!!

    Let's not give all the credit to our bowlers though, clearly they were ably assisted by poor fielding and the usual defensive tactics. Not quite abject nonchalance yet but surely it will be business as usual in no time!!

    Futhermore the so called road has also mysteriously sprung into life at the behest of James Anderson, i.e: we are a mere batting collapse away from defeat!!

    Take a bow gentlemen!!!

  • pitch_curator on July 29, 2014, 2:30 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4 - And what were these "tall 90 mph bowlers" doing in lords? Why did England get pummelled into submission despite getting the best conditions. Any creative excuses? Lets wait till end of day 3 before making claims about balls talking and bats sleeping. Hope you have your bunch of excuses ready then. lol.

  • jmcilhinney on July 29, 2014, 2:23 GMT

    @Jeetendra Pohuja on (July 29, 2014, 1:04 GMT), I'm not sure that you understand what the term "dead rubber" means. A dead rubber is a game whose result cannot affect the outcome of the series. This series is still very much in the balance so this game is no dead rubber.

  • Jaysun on July 29, 2014, 2:15 GMT

    It is frustrating to see the playing XI that was picked by India. Well it is well known fact that Dhoni has a lot of say in picking the playing X1. If Jadeja were to bowl 45 overs, then Dhoni's plan is to use him as his main strike bowler. Certainly, Ashwin is a better bowler than Jadeja and a genuine spinner.He is as good as Jadeja in batting having scored couple of centuries at Test level. With 1 nil up in the series Dhoni should go fora kill and play his bet X1. I doubt whether India will pull through this test.

  • vik-expert on July 29, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    If India makes 425 in next 5 sessions which is possible then this match is a draw. Couple of players in Indian batting line up are still due like Kohli, Pujara, Rohit & Dhoni. Lets say Murli will make 50+, Pujara 110+ Kohli 110, Rohit 70, Dhoni 50, Jadeja 30, Rahane 30, B Kumar 20, Shami and Pankaj 10 each and 30 Extras and total score will be 526 equal to match draw. The first goal India should play session by session & you will see England bowlers will get tired. India can score 4 an over because this a flat track with bit of swing & once you spend about 1 hour you can score 70+ on that track. If I will say England bowlers can take 20 wickets the it will be a lie. When this series started I mentioned that England needs a decent spinner which they cannot develop because they don't give a good run to them. I'll be surprise if England will this test match.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 29, 2014, 1:41 GMT

    Interesting how pitch that had been dormant and 'flat' for best part of 2 days kicked up to life in last session of d2.Jimmy,co. were making it talk those 14 overs.Of course having far superior,taller bowlers @ 90mph as opposed to 120k m/pace makes a diff

  • landl47 on July 29, 2014, 1:37 GMT

    The only way in which England's day could have gone much better is if they'd got either Vijay or Pujara before the close. Now India are faced with batting as long as possible just to save the game and I don't believe the wicket is as easy as the combination of England's batting and India's bowling made it look.

    If Swanny were still playing I think England would be odds on to win this. A few balls were misbehaving, notably the one that the umpire thought had hit Ballance's bat, even from non-spinners like Jadeja and Rohit. Moeen gives the ball more of a rip than either of those two and I hope Cook won't be too shy about using him. England has the runs to play with.

    It'll be an interesting tactical battle tomorrow and I hope Cook will be a little bit innovative in his strategy. England needs to win this.

  • on July 29, 2014, 1:35 GMT

    india needs solid batting from pujara and kohli who are yet to find form in this series

  • on July 29, 2014, 1:08 GMT

    Well I suppose if it is a draw we can all blame the groundsman. I mean, it's easier than blaming the players isn't it?

  • Ms.Cricket on July 29, 2014, 1:07 GMT

    It was negative of Fletcher to revert back to the four bowler formula after India had done very well in the first two Tests. If Ishant was injured, India should have picked Pankaj Singh and Varun Aron for Ishant and Binny. It is never a good idea for a not-so-strong bowling attack like India have to play with four bowlers.

  • on July 29, 2014, 1:04 GMT

    only a weak bowling side was exposed by the englishmen this match is dead rubber am sure indians will be scorinf high as well

  • on July 29, 2014, 0:52 GMT

    Dhawan failed for the fifth time in the series..Last year played Gambhir played some county cricket..he must be included in next test..Ashwin replacing Jadeja will do no good..Ashwin is proven liability in overseas conditions..Mishra,Rasool or Karn Sharma should have been included in the test team as Jadeja and Ashwin both are ineffective in foreign conditions..Varun Aaron should be given a chance as he could emulate what D Prasad

  • Indian_Cricket_Fan_Club on July 29, 2014, 0:27 GMT

    India need to go with 5 bowlers if they need to take 20 wickets to win a test. Jadeja is just a half bowler, Pankaj is on Debut. The team selection does not seem to be made with winning in mind.

  • on July 29, 2014, 0:05 GMT

    The Lords win was somewhat of a fluke. For once Dhoni's tactics paid off. Dhoni's captaincy is not creative and he is and will remain defensive. He is nervous about losing. A lot of other countries pick test match teams with 5 specialist bowlers or a strong bowling all-rounder. Dhoni packs his side with batsmen and bowlers who can bat (Jadega). Again a defensive tactic.

  • cooldxve on July 29, 2014, 0:00 GMT

    Everyone is saying that this is a very flat pitch and the English bowlers will also do nothing. But mind you, the 14 overs that they bowled yesterday it seemed like the pitch has changed completely. Especially Anderson was absolutely brilliant. He was firing rockets to the batsmen. Woakes also impressed in his one over he bowled. If they bowl like that today then India are gonna face an innings defeat.

  • FX_5 on July 29, 2014, 0:00 GMT

    Poor selection of playing 11, Ind lost its way and made Eng smart players (cook, bell) regain their form, coz of poor bowling. cook/ballance could have been out early has Ashwin picked up. Ind lost its way of winning the series from here. They should work hard to defend their win at lords. We could have had an upper hand had the playing 11 properly selected. I dont see Jadeja as a strick bowlwer i tests. Something is wrong.....may be politics for not playing Ashwin and playing Binny for an important oversea Tests

  • rk_ks on July 28, 2014, 23:56 GMT

    India looks relaxed with a win in the last test. Dropped catches tell the whole story. England looked good and Well played England. 4 missed chances in total. If at least 2 of those chances were taken, the total would be less than 500. Jos Butler catch didn't carry properly. So many times this happened. May be 20 times in the last 10 matches. Why don't the fielders stand at least 1 foot forward. None of our bowlers are fast bowlers. They are medium pacers. India is going to lose this match.

  • sammysam on July 28, 2014, 23:31 GMT

    India - back to their good old losing ways.. Just 1 away win is not good enough. A series win is what is required but sadly India have taken 2 steps forward and 1 back. India team selections are just pathetic. India will lose this game by an innings.

  • bhelgarh on July 28, 2014, 23:21 GMT

    India is missing a point here. Catches win matches. Fielding is always been a problem for India. Can't they practice hard on taking catches? India dropped two catches and missed two run out chances. They were unlucky also for not getting the Ian Bell lbw decision in their favor. However not all is lost. They can reply strong.

  • on July 28, 2014, 23:11 GMT

    we all will see this same pitch which is called a road by indians that england will take 20 of india's wicket on the same pitch lol

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 28, 2014, 22:54 GMT

    So, England is very worried to provide pace friendly pitches for this series or so it seems. Imagine if India did this to tourists! All hell would have broken loose in the media and 'experts' bashing India no end!

  • jmcilhinney on July 28, 2014, 22:50 GMT

    My god, Shane Warne is annoying! I don't believe that his recent criticism of Cook was personal but, given the pressure he's been under, and obviously feeling, I can see how it would feel like it. When Warne thinks he's onto something he hammers it relentlessly and yesterday's commentary was no exception. He obviously thought that Cook should have declared a bit earlier and he must have told us how they must wish they could have had another 8 to 10 overs at India about 8 to 10 times in his last half-hour stint. The guy was a great bowler and obviously has an excellent cricket brain but he's a terrible commentator. Can't we keep him off mic and just get one of the other guys to relay the few things he says that are worth hearing?

  • jmcilhinney on July 28, 2014, 22:47 GMT

    England have certainly had the rub of the green so far this game, if they were ever going to win a game, this should be it. There's talk of the pitch being flat but India did create plenty of chances but they conspired with circumstances to squander most of them. England have shown that set batsmen can really go to town so it's critical that England make the most of any chances they create with the ball. While I would like to see umpires get every decision right, I refuse to sympathise with India when decisions go against them because the means exist to put those mistakes right but they refuse to use them or allow others to either. I do feel for Pankaj Singh though. He looked fairly frustrated and despondent by the end of a debut innings that could have been memorable but, on the scoreboard, looks pretty terrible.

  • Al_Bundy1 on July 28, 2014, 22:43 GMT

    It's time to drop Dhawan - he is another flat track bully. Sir Jadeja is good only for T20 and ODI. Ashwin would have a better choice. Actually, Parvez Rasool is much better than these 2, but he is not even in the squad. Go figure!

  • WishIndiaImprove on July 28, 2014, 22:36 GMT

    Indian bowling is very ordinary. Pitch will always change when India start the batting(LOL). Result of the match will be declared tomorrow during tea. Only two results can happen England win or draw.

  • niazbhi on July 28, 2014, 22:03 GMT

    Someone else mentioned that other than Anderson other bowlers might not be threatening enough and india have good bats until number 9.England's best chance" Anderson and Woakes make the ball talk tomorrow morning and get a few wickets with the morning session". Even then india's long tail and england's lack of bowlers in the middle overs might help india to a secure position.

  • cjscanada on July 28, 2014, 21:41 GMT

    Jadeja's miss on Cook is proving costly. Well, whatever everyone says about the pitch, the important fact is England posted a huge score and at times that proves a huge mental block for the team batting second. Ballance is establishing himself very well early in his career. I hope the Indians bat sensibly. We need Vijay to bat the entire day. If we bat the whole of tomorrow and till past lunch the day after then we could perhaps save this game or else it is curtains. A lot depends on Pujara, Rahane and Kohli. To me this game is Englands. At the most Indians can try is to save this game. Dhawan is out of form. It will be interesting to see what Rohit does. Well played England. After looking down and out this is a great effort from everyone. That is why it is so crucial to have good openers, who can take the game away. If Cook finds his game then it will be hard for India to take control, in-spite of being up in this series.

  • on July 28, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Good, consistent batting by England, with a bit of punch at the conclusion, but also mixed luck for Ballance and Buttler. Early wickets the key, I just hope England's fielding is better than India's.

  • KeepitHonest on July 28, 2014, 21:22 GMT

    For a while now, the Indian cricket team has been playing international fixtures with an unremarkable bowling attack - a group that every opposition batsman looks forward to facing esp. to get back into form. These batsmen see it as an opportunity to plan for milestones and records - ask Bell, Root, Sangakkara, Jayawardene, McCullum, Williamson and the list goes on. It is truly unfathomable, a country of a billion plus people with a long cricketing history and a decent cricketing system cannot produce incisive bowlers. Sri Lanka seems to do a better job producing and churning through better talent.

  • on July 28, 2014, 21:16 GMT

    The Indian Officials still expecting something from Shiker dhawan after several fails, there is the quality players in the squad bench were they could be used for successful tour.

  • CricketChat on July 28, 2014, 21:16 GMT

    Even though Eng got one expected wkt (of Dhawan) before end of play, they should have batted out the 1st innings even if it meant going into early part of 3rd day. With a score of around 650, the wouldn't have to bat a 2nd time and Ind would be on the defensive the entire match.

  • JG2704 on July 28, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    @CodAndChips - 1st of all what's the weather like - it's quite humid this way

    Would have no issues at all if they chose a totally different ODI side from the test side with the obvious exception.

    Re Jos coming in earlier - would have had no issue with it. Personally I'd have batted out the day or at least sent Broad and Jordan in and given them and Woakes license and (if we're not bowled out) declare overnight on a 600+ total

  • JG2704 on July 28, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    Well played the 3 Bs. Bell and Buttler both had fortune early in their inns and I thought Buttler looked very vulnerable early on. But then I was pleased he decided to play in SF mode and he played very selflessly rather than made sure of his ton. I've not had any issues with Bell recently as I always thought he looked fluent and comfortable at the crease this summer. Re Buttler - I still think it was the wrong selection and full credit to him for his inns and the style of it but if he could have chosen a situation to enter the crease at , this would surely be it. Playing in that attacking manner is a whole lot different when you have 400 already on the board from if you were 300 runs lighter and he still has to keep wicket but he came in and did more than I expected from him so kudos to him

  • Patchmaster on July 28, 2014, 21:11 GMT

    Lythe in for Robson please. Hales in for Bell (because Bell has done his usual thing of saving his career with a decent score, but will now go on to score 10 in every innings for the next two years.....)

  • Dunross on July 28, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    this is VINTAGE bell for you: sublime against an 3rd string attack on a flat pitch batting in the sun. However don't call him when it's 50v4 against Steyn,Morkel,Johnson or Ajmal..." YES ..NO,.. WAIT...SORRY"... but there a lot af positives bla die bla... Ian - no true grit- Bell

  • Jaffa79 on July 28, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    India and England are both incredibly naive nor to go into Tests without their best bowling line up. Why no Ashwin? I understand that his bowling has dropped off somewhat but he is still a good bowler (especially to England's many lefties) and from what I have seen, he is a very accomplished batsman too. On another note, England don't pick a spinner? It can be justified (not to me!) that you don't need one in May but no specialist on hard, dry July pitches? England need a proper spinner for control and variety. Instead we pick 4 seamers, all of whom are quite similar. With the need to rotate, surely we need a spinner to take the burden off Jimmy and Broad?

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    In addition to my suggestion that the top order miss the world cup to work on their long format game.

    Will any of the top 6 be missed by the ODI side? Robson can't even get into Middlesex's white-ball sides. Cook hasn't scored runs in a while in ODIs, and Morgan can captain. Also there are many opener options to replace Cook and Bell if needed, such as Hales, Lumb, Vince, Roy, Trego, Carberry whoever. Ballance and Root crossed the line between stability and stagnating the run rate in the ODIs against Sri Lanka imo. Ali was not in the side for that series, and ought to work on his bowling, which has potential but lacks bite atm.

  • Nutcutlet on July 28, 2014, 21:01 GMT

    It seems that England's nightmare might just be ending. For this, England supporters have to thank: (a) India's standard of catching going backwards; (b) India's stubbornness in refusing to embrace DRS (or a variation of) (c) some questionable umpiring on Day 1 -- but see (b) above. And (d) Messers Ballance, Bell and Buttler for treating some rather inferior Test match bowling with the contempt that it deserved. All this after Lord's which somehow seems to belong to another time after today's play. All that said, I do hope that India fights hard; their character is now under scrutiny, much as England's was at Lord's.

  • jimmyvida on July 28, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    India's fielding is up to standard. Why is anyone complaining. In NZ, when Mc Cullum scored over 300, it was one of India's fieldsmen who remarked that they were standing on the field for two days. That's what fielding is for Indian cricketers in tests, standing on the field. Not making an effort is the norm.

  • fguy on July 28, 2014, 20:47 GMT

    only 1 reliable seamer (bhuvi), poor catching, no good test level spinner, a technically weak opener.. if things persist the way they are then Australia are absolutely going to hammer us come end of the year

  • fguy on July 28, 2014, 20:41 GMT

    the pitch is not as flat as the scoreline suggests. if the chances had been taken & right umpiring decisions had been made Eng could well have been out for <400. cook was dropped on 15 so reduce 80 from score, bell was out on 0 so reduce 167 from score, buttler was out on 0 so deduct 85... what i mean to say pitch is not as flat as the final score suggests

    in any event eng's taller, quicker bowlers will get more out of it & talk is of pitch getting quicker on 3rd day so batting will not be easy. we'll do very well to get a draw out of this.

    the last 2 days have showcased what indian fans can expect of their team when they play abroad -

    1. make a struggling team look good. check 2. bring struggling batsmen back to form. check & check 3. allow a opposition player to make a good debut. check 4. dropped catches in slips & missed opportunities close in. check 5. bad umpiring decisions (but fans are told not to complain coz the team doesnt opt for drs). check

  • on July 28, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    I guess the question is can the Indian batsmen bat this one out? I think the fact that Pujara and Kohli are a little short on runs, plus Rohit wanting to make a mark, will probably help in keeping them focussed. I think if they can get to tea tomorrow no worse than 4 down then it is going to be hard work for England to find a result here.

    I just wonder how much the English bowlers will have in the tank should the Indians get set. We know it has already been a long summer for Broad and Anderson. Curious that they had Jordan and Woakes play a championship match through until thursday. Would have been interesting to see the state of play had they bowled first.

  • Coolcapricorn on July 28, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    Although England rode their luck, it was MSD's poor team selection & India's shabby fielding that gave England the opportunity to make a big total, gave England players like Cook & Bell the opportunity to find some form & now has put India in a position where they can only get a draw at best. The close catching has been so poor with catches also falling short due to the slip cordon continually standing so deep - even for the medium pace of Bhuvi. India's decision in opposing DRS has backfired on them as they are suffering from bad umpiring decisions than England. Just got to hope India can bat out a draw in these remaining three days.

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 19:59 GMT

    England's top 6 have all scored some runs this summer but the concerns are there. Cook and Robson outside off stump. Ali against the short ball. Arguably the whole team against the short ball. Bell and Cook's general bad form before this game. Etc.

    With a huge gap before the next test series after this series, here's a suggestion. This top order forgets about the world cup and white-ball cricket in the short term. They all go back to their counties, then have holidays at the end of the summer. Then after resting they're work on their issues and perhaps try and play some cricket. Be it domestically, for the Lions, whatever.

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 19:58 GMT

    India certainly have plenty of batting. And with England's exhausted senior bowlers and lacking a specialist spinner, and this road of a pitch, I expect India to rack up the runs. I can't see much other than a draw.

  • Speng on July 28, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    Pitch looks a bit like a batting paradise especially if the Pom bowlers can't get it to reverse tomorrow. Cook needs to give Ali a decent run tomorrow as he should get more out of it than Jaddu.

    England perhaps missed a trick by not accelerating a bit sooner as the Indian bowlers seemed very ordinary today. One wonders if they're not slow playing Jadeja a bit so India keep picking him rather than Ashwin. Jadeja and Shami aren't pulling their weight wicketwise and we don't know if Pankaj will either.

    A draw is in the cards because I don't see England's bowlers doing much better...

  • on July 28, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    Magnificent inning by bell and buttler was playing as odi match well done Eng players.

  • bhushanB on July 28, 2014, 19:26 GMT

    I do not understand why Pujara does not stand in slips. There is a reason why batsmen with good

    technique have fared best in the slip cordron - they can see the ball and anticipate how it will be

    played and how it will travel if miscued and such. Tendulkar (until his fingers gave up) Dravid,

    Laxman... this is the reason why they were successful. I do not know how Jadeja or Dhawan could do well

    in that place. ofcorse Kohli's failures are still a mystery to me.

    I would like to have Vijay, Pujara and Rahane in the slips - guys with cool head backed by good batting

    technique and temperament.

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    Well done Ian Bell. Cook yesterday now Bell today.After early luck have scored some runs. Good for English cricket.

    Buttler scoring runs should boost his confidence, though it shouldn't be ignored that he could have been out a few times on the way there.

    India's fielding has once again let then down.

    Perhaps Buttler could have gone in when Ballance got out at 355-3? Who knows?

    Sky seemed to praise Bell more than Ballance but surely Ballance deserves more? Look at the different situations when they arrived at the crease.

  • cric1965 on July 28, 2014, 19:02 GMT

    Kholi should perform well in this test match to justify his credibility and to save the match for India.

  • Chris_P on July 28, 2014, 18:59 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding. Like you, I will also wait until both teams bat out. The pitch may be a little docile but it is no road. And India's attack, basically a 3 man attack & those bowlers are not anywhere rated as strike bowlers. How does Ashwin miss out on a start?

  • on July 28, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    Rohit should have replaced Dhawan and NOT Binny. We need a specialized spinner at Indian side which is our strength. Ashwin deserves a place in playing 11. He can also bat better than few current top order batsmen that he had proved already. Hope he will be picked for the next game.

  • sudhindranath on July 28, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    India's target for Day 3: Take score to 275+ for the loss of 5 wickets or fewer.

    England's target for Day 3: Take at least 7 more Indian wickets; the number of runs conceded is almost immaterial.

    First session on Day 3:

    Target for India: Take score to 100+ without losing a wicket

    Target for England: Take at least 2 more wickets before India's total reaches 100.

  • bhushanB on July 28, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    Every hour, every session is very crucial for India. There is no possibility of a Win for them, so they have to play for a draw. They should forget about the score card completely, but at the same time should try to score runs as well once they settle-in because otherwise a single session or hour where they lose couple of quick wickets will put them under tremendous pressure. Worrysome aspect is, they wont be able to push Ali out of attack, as they cannot attack him the way they did in the first test. If they can manage that, they can easily tire the pacers.

  • jokerbala on July 28, 2014, 18:36 GMT

    Why is Dhoni hell bent on making aggressive pacers into harmless Trundlers. I can understand Dhoni needing control from the pacers on flat Indian surfaces where nothing can help the pacers and in green tops where you can bowl a half decent line and the pitch will do the rest. This was a typical hit the deck kind of wicket with good bounce and carry and still the balls which Bhuvi bowled hardly carried to slips. Bhuvi last year looked like a slighthly faster version of Praveen Kumar hitting up to 137kmph now is bowling at Binny's pace in the 120s. Shami who used to bowl consistently in the 140s is down to 135 now. All for the want for some "control". This attack needs Varun/Umesh like impact bowlers who might go at 4.5 runs an over but could get those breakthroughs.

  • on July 28, 2014, 18:36 GMT

    While england bowlers were kind of praised for their bowling effort today but the fact is they still haven't been bowling a steady decent line and length. if india had gathered 560+ and if it were england batting and indian bowleres were bowling then i am sure india would have got at least 2 wickets already. england bowlers need to force the indian batsmen to play most of the deliveries and try to get LBW, clean bowled, caught behind, caught at the slips etc but their current line and length is not good enough to get wickets by varieties of ways as pointed above. i am worried they will bowl ordinary tomorrow. when it comes to the effort and discipline indian bowlers are the best in today's test cricket. englad should try their best tomorrow otherwise they will have no advantage in this test.

  • ToTellUTheTruth on July 28, 2014, 18:29 GMT

    I resisted so far on commenting on this series. Now, i think I will comment.

    1. Shami is lost. Out of the 35+ overs he bowled, he only produced two edge inducing deliveries. India cannot afford some one, who simply bowls garbage. Where is the swing (Watch Anderson today), and where is the reverse swing Shami, that you are so famous for? Since your debut test, I did not see a single innings where you bowled reverse. 2. Singh is unlucky and it did affect him. He needs to pull himself up and keep at it, and prove to us that his 300+ first class wickets are no fluke. 3. The only bowler that Eng respected so far in the series WAS Bhuvi. Looks like Eng sorted him out. They are stepping out to him even with the new ball, thus negating the swing he gets. Wonder, why Dhoni does not step up to the wkt. 4. Is India really playing in England? From the pitches, it looks like they are playing in SSC in Sri Lanka. Such dead pitches.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 28, 2014, 18:10 GMT

    On the topic of Indian wicket keepers, I think Saha would be a better prospect. I've been told he has a better technique, but the IPL isn't really a good indicator and neither is Indian FC cricket. I hope Sanju Samson comes good eventually. It's a shame how India brings up promise at the U-19 level like Unmukt Chand, yet they never kick on. What has happened to Baba Aparajith? Why isn't Rasool being given a chance?

    And why oh why is Aaron & Yadav not playing together. I don't care if they go for runs. Pace gets you wickets, even on flat pitches like TB and RB.

  • AminGhadiya on July 28, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    Well, I see two Indian batsman making 100's and two other with 50 plus runs, this match is heading nowhere but Draw, this pitch was like practice net session for England and will be same for Indians too, so any Indian player want to prove they can score big, this is it, go tomorrow n score big like English batsman did, also I suspect cook's decision to declare so late, they could not have lose the match provided if they had given more time for their bolwer to get more wicket on day two, results seems draw now... Amin.. Happy Eid to all and happy Sravan month to all as well..

  • on July 28, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    Our batting can only save the game. The challenge is to bat through the 3 days. Pujara, Kohli, Rahane must bring in their A game on.

    I hope dhoni changes the side for the next game. the playing xi should be: 1. vijay 2. gambhir 3. pujara 4. kohli 5. rahane 6. ashwin 7. dhoni 8. jadeja 9. bhuvi 10. aaron 11. ishant

  • MiddleStump on July 28, 2014, 17:56 GMT

    Should India lose this test, the only silver lining would be the forcible exit of some players who are playing way below par. Dhawan, Kohli, and Shami will hopefully perform well and save their places for the next Test. Otherwise the blind faith shown by Dhoni and the selectors will not be enough to spare them. Jadeja will get another match simply because of his one innings at Lords. Ashwin should start spending time at the nets since he is now a certainty for the next two tests. Cook and Bell have come good and Bell seems to have found his form. With Ballance and Butler toying with the Indian bowlers, suddenly the batting looks formidable.

  • thozar on July 28, 2014, 17:52 GMT

    Buttler was very lucky today. I dont think he will score like this again. Even if India lead the series, they should not think of drawing any test. They should go for win. I think we can still win. England batting wont succeed for 2 innings in a row and they have only one bowler who can take wickets. Tire Anderson and feast off Jordan, Woakes, and Ali. Broad is no good anymore but we don't need to take risks off him either. I think we need to replace Jadeja with Ashwin for next test. Sorry Jaddu. Even though he bats well and bowls decent, we need a good bowler. Ashwin can also bat. Remember he has scored test centuries. I think we are one bowler short this test.

  • jackthelad on July 28, 2014, 17:40 GMT

    India have a couple of decent batsmen and one half-decent bowler; they are being shown up here, now England seem to have recovered their nerve.

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    England's top 6 have all scored some runs this summer but the concerns are there. Cook and Robson outside off stump. Ali against the short ball. Arguably the whole team against the short ball. Bell and Cook's general bad form before this game. Etc.

    With a huge gap before the next test series after this series, here's a suggestion. This top order forgets about the world cup and white-ball cricket in the short term. They all go back to their counties, then have holidays at the end of the summer. Then after resting they're work on their issues and perhaps try and play some cricket. Be it domestically, for the Lions, whatever.

    Will any of the top 6 be missed by the ODI side? Robson can't even get into Middlesex's white-ball sides. Cook hasn't scored runs in a while in ODIs,and Morgan can captain. Also there are many opener options to replace Cook and Bell if needed. Ballance And Root crossed the line between stability and stagnating the run rate. Ali not in the side.

    Any thoughts?

  • NP_NY on July 28, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    Ok, what is the use of Dhawan in this test side? Why even take Gambhir on this tour if Dhawan is going to be played in every test match?! if Dhoni doesn't want to play Gambhir, he can still open with Pujara and play Binny/Ashwin instead of Dhawan.

  • vkumar_086 on July 28, 2014, 17:25 GMT

    @TheLongHandle....Anderson and Broad did not bowl well on greenest pitch (have not seen such green pitch in my life) of lords...have not taken a five wicket haul even once in the series (Indian bowlers achieved this thrice in three innings)...i dont think they bowl well on this flat pitch...with Vijay is in form, Pujara looking good and making starts (have to convert them), Kohli will be very eager to contribute to team, Rohit also want to prove his selection for this test, Dhoni will always play well on this kind of pitch, just like Trentbridge pitch, Jadeja and Bhuvi also want to repeat the innings of last test...with all these possibilities India also set to score above 500 at least....the result will be boring draw

  • on July 28, 2014, 17:12 GMT

    Still I don't understanding, Dhawan in team? Because of Binny one match India finish draw, even though they drop Binny. Still they are keeping Dhawan; 3rd test also he failed. At least stuart Binny can bowl and also bat, from one fail they decided he is not good for test. Otherwise think about Parvez Razool in place of this Dhawan, and then from middle order somebody give promotion as opener. Still India needs one spinner or medium fast all rounder.

  • vkumar_086 on July 28, 2014, 17:12 GMT

    @TheLongHandle....Anderson and Broad did not bowl well on greenest pitch (have not seen such green pitch in my life) of lords...have not taken a five wicket haul even once in the series (Indian bowlers achieved this thrice in three innings)...i dont think they bowl well on this flat pitch...with Vijay is in form, Pujara looking good and making starts (have to convert them), Kohli will be very eager to contribute to team, Rohit also want to prove his selection for this test, Dhoni will always play well on this kind of pitch, just like Trentbridge pitch, Jadeja and Bhuvi also want to repeat the innings of last test...with all these possibilities India also set to score above 500 at least....the result will be boring draw

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:59 GMT

    india have to bat well,but early wicket of dhawan makes it difficult.next test match dawan out-gautam in!

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:59 GMT

    Now Indian batsmen have to anyhow save the test they must atleast bat till the first session of fourth day, suddenly England quickies with their extra pace are generating too much of bounce and swing..Good Luck India hope you doesnt lose the lead in the series.

  • CodandChips on July 28, 2014, 16:57 GMT

    India certainly have plenty of batting. And with England's exhausted senior bowlers and lacking a specialist spinner, and this road of a pitch, I expect India to rack up the runs. I can't see much other than a draw.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on July 28, 2014, 16:56 GMT

    Dharwan out early...what a surprise. I am not sure why The Indian selectors persist with this player. He has proven over and over again to be a complete flat-track bat.

  • pratit on July 28, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Maybe the pitch is a bit flat. But scoreboard pressure is a big factor and England have piled on the runs. As we have seen in the previous matches, wickets may fall in clumps. Besides, India missed a lot of chances and a few decisions also went against them. With this type of slip catching, you can't blame the bowlers for giving up. I think India will be up against it. And I cannot understand when Dhoni will quit tests. His wicketkeeping and captaincy in tests is poor and he adds zero value as a batsman. Ideally, this India team should play 5 bowlers and the wicketkeeper should bat at No. 6. But due to Dhoni's ineptness with the bat, India is forced to go with only 4 bowlers. And India now have a few good wicketkeepers back home who are much better batsmen than Dhoni. So, the best thing thathe can do for Indian test cricket is to quit it. India are rebuilding anyway, so why not try out a new keeper.

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    My guess is that Cook has taken too long to declare - most likely outcome now is a draw. Cook is captaining like England lead the series. He's badly in need of a win, both for the team and himself, yet doesn't have the courage to make the calls when needed!

  • CurrentPresident on July 28, 2014, 16:19 GMT

    This test is an advertisement for the obsolescence of Test cricket. What's the point and why would one waste any of their time following this drivel.

    Also, Dhoni should just go the whole hog and include 11 batsmen in his team - everyone can throw a ball 22 yards. So pull out Shami, Pankaj and Bhuvi (well maybe not Bhuvi, he is a batsman now) and put in Gambhir, Raina and Dinesh Kartik (or whichever other batsman is available).

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:16 GMT

    I really hate to say this, but its bad captaincy from dhoni again. Too defensive! Lot of drop catches didn't help him either. Poor fielding performance! Dhawan didn't really his lesson on slips in this series. hope he would make it in his batting. Come on India...

  • crazycricfan007 on July 28, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    Now I understand why Dhoni does not want to have quality spinners bowling in tandem. He struggles to keep to spinners. I think Kirmai was right. India need to replace Dhoni from test matches.

  • RoshanF on July 28, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Oh, Oh looks like the mighty can-bowl-anywhere Indian attack has just been treated like a 3rd rate weekend club side out there in the English summer

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    Another one of those flat pitches to get cook back in form for the final burst in 4rth?

  • on July 28, 2014, 16:11 GMT

    Ian Bell continues to be a free loader. When the chips were down in the first 2 test matches his contribution was next to nothing. Now, he has helped himself to a big century and now averages close to 50 for the series!

  • Cricketlover54 on July 28, 2014, 16:08 GMT

    Poor PK Singh, waiting 10 years to bowl only to get hammered all over the park.

  • prij on July 28, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    if India loses on the flat wicket like that than it will totally be batsman fault. pitch is very flat. also indian bowling has been good they have been running in with good intent but fielding has been disappointing. India can scarcely win from this situation they have to play well in first innings so that match can be draw.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 28, 2014, 16:04 GMT

    Flat pitch is flat. Whoever disagrees clearly isn't at the game, like me.

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:57 GMT

    Dhoni going to defensive approach with only 3 FT bowlers is pathetic!! Its like seeing the England series of 2011, bowlers bowling 180 overs per innings!! I mean what the heck is happening Dhoni?? This momentum change will be with England for the rest of the series and bell & cook will grind centuries in the remaining 2 matches!! Pathetic slip cordon with the average of 3 dropped catches per match!! Pls publish cricinfo

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    The pitch has swing but due to bad umpire decisions the runs are piling on. I agree the slip cordon needs improvement but really this pitch is flat with minimum movement. Bell should of been out at 0 but he's scoring 160 same goes for ballance and good edge and yet not out. Cook should declare now otherwise this game will go to a draw and if india don't have enough time to score and bowl to ENG it will definitely be a draw.

  • Coolcapricorn on July 28, 2014, 15:52 GMT

    From the time England won the toss, decided to bat & MSD unwisely decided to go for an extra batsmen, knew England would make atleast 400 to 500 runs - so the best India could hope for is only a draw. Admittedly England have ridden their luck but MSD's poor team selection has not only been ultra-defensive but it has allowed players like Cook & Bell to find some form. We needed a specialist spinner like Ashwin which would have been a clear advantage over England but we just have Jadeja who's only going to take one or two wickets at the most. Sadly it has gone back to repeating the same mistakes we made in SA & NZ!

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    Heading says ballance unlucky what about bell who got lucky yesterday.

  • Hareshsundaram on July 28, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    Hope Indian batsmen take advantage of these batting conditions rather than committing silly mistakes... C'mon guys... each one of you is capable enough to score 200+.

  • RayMcCooney on July 28, 2014, 15:49 GMT

    I don't agree @ vkias. Let's see what Anderson and Broad do with a good total to bowl at.

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    This is where Eng need KP. a player that can come in and up the scoring rate.450 for 5 and still going at 3 is not good enough. Buttler going better then Prior already.

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    bad luck for india bell was not given out on 0 & some drop catch need to improve

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 28, 2014, 15:33 GMT

    Jadeja's bowling average was less than 30 before today... Days like today, ladies and gentlemen, is why you shouldn't read too much into England's bowlers having averages the wrong side of 30.

  • vkumar_086 on July 28, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan...pitch is so flat that even i can also score some runs on this...in Lords test, the pitch was competitive and helping for bowlers from day 1, so both teams were able to take 20 wickets...wait and watch English bowlers also have similar situation on tomorrow when Indian batsmen making merry of the attack

  • on July 28, 2014, 15:28 GMT

    The current set of slip fielders don't look like they can hold on to anything coming their way. Their fundamentals are are all wrong. I have never seen anything like this. The fielders have their hands on their knees even while the ball is being delivered. How can they stay down low which is so imperative to take slip catches ? I am sure they will drop at-least 3 catches per innings.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 28, 2014, 15:26 GMT

    There was a time where ENG used to prepare bowling pitches to suit their bowling attack. But now looking at Indian bowling attack in Lord's ECB is going for flat pitches to save themselves. Funny part is everyone citicized Indian bowling as mediocre. Cricket is very funny game. Indian bowling has to be proud of this. Now its for Indian batting to throw away wickets only to lose the match.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 28, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    To anyone who criticises the Indian slip fielding, has to remember it is a NEW slip cordon. We don't have Sachin, VVS and Dravid anymore so give the new guys a chance.

  • cubersamy on July 28, 2014, 15:22 GMT

    Absolute rubbish. Another one goes down in the slip. Dhawan and Sri ji better score big hundreds.

  • Vilander on July 28, 2014, 15:02 GMT

    India have been rubbish, England esp Bell was outstanding. Cook was dropped on 15-20 runs, made 95. Ballance had an edge to the keeper off shami not given went on to score 100 more. Bell was plumb LBW on 0, made 100+Buttler was caught at slips on 0, still scoring. Hope rub of green turns Indian side a bit now..cant take it anymore.

  • IndianSRTfan on July 28, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    @Posted by Jamie Moneghan on (July 28, 2014, 14:04 GMT): It's good to know that you're excited. I wouldn't be making big predictions though. We have couple of good pacers in Yadav and Aaron who'll be more than handy in Australia. So don't go on thinking we'll play with same set of bowlers/players wherever we go, we aren't Australia to do that kind of thing.

  • JaranNirsi on July 28, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    Is Cook going to declare and give his bowlers a chance this evening? Clarke would do that. Or is it going to be a grind till just before lunch tomorrow - safety first? That would give India a chance to save the Test.m

  • cubersamy on July 28, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    @JaranNirsi : Are you actually watching this match or just spouting off based on looking at the commentary. Catch was taken (according to Nasser , Strauss etc). Bell's catch dropped short.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 28, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    This Test match is a draw. OT and Oval should have turn and I suspect Ashwin will get a game.

  • vkumar_086 on July 28, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    Bowlers cant do much on this kind of pitch...everybody agreeing this now...predicting India can also post BIG TOTAL...in spite of ICC efforts to revive test cricket, ECB killing the spirit of test cricket by preparing this kind of pitches...

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 28, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan: You clearly lack knowledge in cricket, so I suggest you refrain from posting utter rubbish. The pitch is utterly flat. It's a road. There's hardly any swing (especially reverse) and no turn. The only bowlers who can take wickets on this pitch are 90mph plus bowlers, so nice try but you failed in trying to insult India's bowlers.

    Also we're SAVING Yadav and Aaron for the World Cup, so they're not going to play much cricket. So yeah, we do have fast bowlers and watch OUR batsman pile on the runs when England get bowled out/declare.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 28, 2014, 14:34 GMT

    Just saw Butler survive a v close 'catch' @ 1st slip.Rahane claimed the catch but ump. wisely decided to concur with 3rd ump/tech.A big thumbs up to both Erasmus and tech. as right decision in end was made,Butler given n.o. Technology proving its worth.

  • JaranNirsi on July 28, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    Two more catches dropped in the slips off a single over of Bhuvi. The Indian slips are more a sieve than a cordon. That makes it seven in less than four full innings. Quite hopeless.

  • on July 28, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    Bell has taken Jadeja ask over the park. Is it test or T20..

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 28, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    Just heard on commentary watching on star1 here in India of rain predicted over next day or so.Will add extra dimention to match.Dont think will affect game time as facilities are good.But cloud cover means swing in play,also make grass on pitch 'sit up'.

  • on July 28, 2014, 14:17 GMT

    Dhoni as a keeper is the best guy to stump players out .Catches not at all. The best glovework we have ever seen off spin has to be Healy.As for the game, The pitch is bit better than the score suggest.Just look at the two tests played in SRL. A team got 420 on seemingly docile pitch and emerged with a 100 run lead everytime. Combine with weak Indian middle order,429 looks fairly substantial already.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 28, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    If it was my call, I wouldn't bother allowing any of the England bowlers to go out and have a bat now. Bell and Buttler are out in the middle now as I write; at the fall of the next wicket, or up to say around tea, I'd declare. Need the bowlers 100% fresh and raring to go at 100% effort to stand any chance of picking up 20 wickets. Please Cook, don't bother making your bowlers go out into the middle all padded up for a few swings of the bat! Their duty is with the ball in hand...

  • on July 28, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Cannot wait for Aussies to play India later in the year as Warner , Smith , Haddin , Clarke and co will slaughter this attack as there will be less movement in Australia and the extra bounce means India's slow medium pace will bounce up perfectly for our batsmen to whack! If you can't bowl England out then you've no chance against Australia as Aussies score at 4 and over a over.

  • philipg33 on July 28, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    Half way throught the second day on a road and still not 400 despite wickets in hand Alastair Cook is 1-0 down not 3-0 up!

    In the Vaughan days England would have passed 400 yesterday with 20 mins to bowl at India

    But then he Had Pietersen and Trescothick This team has no one able to score above 2.93 an over except Butler way down the order.

    What happens when they come up against higher quality bowling???

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 28, 2014, 13:46 GMT

    It seems to be one of those pitches where it can be very tricky to get in and settle down, but once you're in you're in and ought to make the most of it. The hard work for England's batters has pretty much been done now, and they should really be looking for some quick bonus runs. Very nice if Bell can get to his ton of course as well. And then it's the turn of the England bowlers... Quick wickets are a must and it's one of those scenarios where they could fall in clusters. Lots of work to be done by the England bowlers; India's batsmen can easily punish lacklustre bowling.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on July 28, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    Loving seeing Bell cashing in on some friendly bowling.Looking good for a really big 1.Ominous signs.All the same really feel for Ballance robbed of a double 100 in that manner.1 of worst howlers I've seen.But crucially the pitch starting to do 'things'.

  • JaranNirsi on July 28, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    This wicket resembles Trent Bridge in its character, but India will have to bat on it before full confirmation. England are not complaining, perhaps because they are in the runs this time. It makes for dull cricket though. As for DRS, why not give the umpires free rein to check with the third umpire instead? Just as they can for run outs? Take it out of the players' options and give it to the umpires, where it belongs. The slow motion replays alone would help. No DRS required.

  • Nampally on July 28, 2014, 13:14 GMT

    Playing a 5 day Test with 3 Specialist Bowlers is suicidal! Dhoni will never learn despite the" leather hunting" that India is receiving in this Test or the ones in NZ & SA. I had predicted a total of > 500 - Which will put India on the back foot straight away. Trying to save this match will be a huge task. More over with his insane selection of 3 specialist bowlers Dhoni has lost his credibility. He has swung the momentum from India to England in a most decisive manner. Even if India manage to save this test, the next 2 Tests will not be that easy. After winning the Lords Test, India looked miles ahead of England. Now it looks like the Indian victory was based on a gamble working to perfection. Why Fix it if Ain't Broken- Dhoni had questioned. Only one change with either Ashwin or Aaron coming in place of Binny + Pankaj taking Ishant's spot was adequate. But playing with just 3 specialist Bowlers is not ON! When Dhoni's Gut feeling overrules Logic India is in the current Jeopardy!

  • sheru-sher on July 28, 2014, 12:54 GMT

    What is the use of all these electronic gadgets when batsmen are still given out incorrectly.I feel sad for the young batsmen Ballance . Simple mistakes continue to cause sides to win and sides to lose matches. It is time we start awarding negative points to umpires who make glaring mistakes and if their tally reaches an all time low then give them "out" .

  • alipk52 on July 28, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Ballance is decent find for England and a perfect replacement of former number 3 Trott, however I really miss KP big time, as commentators said he was the player who can take the game away from you quickly than you could imagine, these new players miss that tempo KP possess, though Ballance can speed up scoring, but he tends to slow down in clusters, Currently Bell is the only one who can go little closer to KP's batting pace, they really need to bring back KP and it'll boost confidence of Bell as well by taking pressure off him.

  • BGKrishna on July 28, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    India is definitely missing Ashwin on a pitch that is offering some uneven bounce. Besides it would have given Ashwin vital experience with red ball in English wicket. To judge his calibre based on one innings at Jo'burg is indeed cruel, when half of India's batting stars have failed miserably for last 3 tours and even Pujara is not striking the same form as on Indian pitches. If Eng can get Vijay and Rahane out India will have a struggle to save this match.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 28, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    You cant tell if this wicket is flat or not until both sides have had a bat, In the 2010/11 ashes Australia looked like they were batting on a minefield only for England bat without issue, the same went for the Oval in 2012, Expect it looked like a minefield for England.

    This pitch doesn't look as docile as Trent bridge though, and I expect we might see more uneven bounce and spin over the next 2-3 days. England will rue not having a frontline spinner to capitalise.

  • Sexysteven on July 28, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    I don't know why the commentators are saying there's more pace in the wicket it's plain obvious that it's slow and low and a dead flat pitch like Trentbridge it's hard to see how wickets are going to fall unless batsmen get themselves out or help from the umpires as was the case with ballance the only way a result is going to happen is if India self destruct I love my test cricket but it's a hard watch again when there's no contest between bat and ball high scores don't make for good entertaining cricket about time groundsmen realise this world wide and produce livelier pitches

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    The Cook and Balance catches prove that standing up to the stumps there is no one who comes close to the one and only MSD. The true test of a keeper is always when standing up to the stumps, especially when the ball is jumping or keeping low and turning.

  • Surajrises on July 28, 2014, 12:25 GMT

    The amount of efforts ICC is putting to make TEST Cricket a HIT Format, ECB is equally spoiling their efforts by making pitches at Trent Bridge & Ageas Bowl. Where can we find an equal contest between the bat and the ball in this game? Lords was really very very good regardless of who won or lost that game. We need such pitches that produce results by the end of 5 days or before. This is terrible! I lost interest in the game yesterday itself after watching the 1st session. Advertisers will lose interest! Ratings must have definitely gone down by now. Although the TV ratings are done on a weekly basis, there are several advertisers who are also fans of this game and this would have annoyed them as well! I hope David Boon sees to it that ECB is fined heavily this time for another terrible pitch.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    If there is one thing that this test series has taught us is that DRS should not be discarded so lightly, no disrespect to the Umps but there have been quite a few errors that could so easily have been avoided.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    Indian part-time bowler dispatched Ballance amazing. Today indian bowlers are not looking in rhythm, what happened after lunch, anything happens but Eng is in very good position to make big score, bowlers will have to dodge the batsmen.

  • Englishmanabroad on July 28, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    With the dismissal of Ballance, the Indian team benefited from the absence of DRS, however considering that they would definitely have had Bell LBW twice in his first over, I have to ask, was it worth it.

    I do not believe that the standard of umpiring has got any worse since the advent of DRS, all that DRS is doing currently, is highlighting every mistake that the umpires make.

    Regardless of whether the Teams agree to use DRS, we all know that the media are going to use it. No-one cares if the umpire gets the call right (after all, that's their job), so all that is achieved really is, as I said above, that every umpiring mistake is highlighted.

    This is not only unfair on the umpires themselves, but in my opinion, it brings the game into disrepute. It effectively says that "We don't care if International games are won or lost because of easily avoidable "Bad Decisions"".

    I doubt this will get by the moderators, since apparently you are not allowed to comment on DRS.

  • o-bomb on July 28, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Missed the edge of Ballance's bat by "a considerable margin" indeed George. This series so far is surely as good an advert as there is for using the DRS. It seems we've had 1 almost every day. It makes a mockery of the game that everyone watching knows the batsman shouldn't be out even before he's left the field of play.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    Now the pitch has become an absolute flat batting heaven! What a boring test match this is turning out to be.. yuck!

  • rickyvoncanterbury on July 28, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Having watched England in Australia and India in New Zealand I am sure these two fragile batting line ups are enjoying the conditions, However with a tour of Australia for India and a world cup in Aus and NZ for both teams, could you have a worse preparation.

  • CricketFanIndUS on July 28, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    What a flat wicket! The batsmen have to have a mistake to get out or the umpire has to make them, as there is no DRS. . . . . . Again India got affected in a negative way for not having DRS. . . . . . this a good pitch for all out of form batsmen too. . .

  • CricketFanIndUS on July 28, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    What a flat wicket! The batsmen have to have a mistake to get out or the umpire has to make them, as there is no DRS. . . . . . Again India got affected in a negative way for not having DRS. . . . . . this a good pitch for all out of form batsmen too. . .

  • rickyvoncanterbury on July 28, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Having watched England in Australia and India in New Zealand I am sure these two fragile batting line ups are enjoying the conditions, However with a tour of Australia for India and a world cup in Aus and NZ for both teams, could you have a worse preparation.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    Now the pitch has become an absolute flat batting heaven! What a boring test match this is turning out to be.. yuck!

  • o-bomb on July 28, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    Missed the edge of Ballance's bat by "a considerable margin" indeed George. This series so far is surely as good an advert as there is for using the DRS. It seems we've had 1 almost every day. It makes a mockery of the game that everyone watching knows the batsman shouldn't be out even before he's left the field of play.

  • Englishmanabroad on July 28, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    With the dismissal of Ballance, the Indian team benefited from the absence of DRS, however considering that they would definitely have had Bell LBW twice in his first over, I have to ask, was it worth it.

    I do not believe that the standard of umpiring has got any worse since the advent of DRS, all that DRS is doing currently, is highlighting every mistake that the umpires make.

    Regardless of whether the Teams agree to use DRS, we all know that the media are going to use it. No-one cares if the umpire gets the call right (after all, that's their job), so all that is achieved really is, as I said above, that every umpiring mistake is highlighted.

    This is not only unfair on the umpires themselves, but in my opinion, it brings the game into disrepute. It effectively says that "We don't care if International games are won or lost because of easily avoidable "Bad Decisions"".

    I doubt this will get by the moderators, since apparently you are not allowed to comment on DRS.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    Indian part-time bowler dispatched Ballance amazing. Today indian bowlers are not looking in rhythm, what happened after lunch, anything happens but Eng is in very good position to make big score, bowlers will have to dodge the batsmen.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    If there is one thing that this test series has taught us is that DRS should not be discarded so lightly, no disrespect to the Umps but there have been quite a few errors that could so easily have been avoided.

  • Surajrises on July 28, 2014, 12:25 GMT

    The amount of efforts ICC is putting to make TEST Cricket a HIT Format, ECB is equally spoiling their efforts by making pitches at Trent Bridge & Ageas Bowl. Where can we find an equal contest between the bat and the ball in this game? Lords was really very very good regardless of who won or lost that game. We need such pitches that produce results by the end of 5 days or before. This is terrible! I lost interest in the game yesterday itself after watching the 1st session. Advertisers will lose interest! Ratings must have definitely gone down by now. Although the TV ratings are done on a weekly basis, there are several advertisers who are also fans of this game and this would have annoyed them as well! I hope David Boon sees to it that ECB is fined heavily this time for another terrible pitch.

  • on July 28, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    The Cook and Balance catches prove that standing up to the stumps there is no one who comes close to the one and only MSD. The true test of a keeper is always when standing up to the stumps, especially when the ball is jumping or keeping low and turning.

  • Sexysteven on July 28, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    I don't know why the commentators are saying there's more pace in the wicket it's plain obvious that it's slow and low and a dead flat pitch like Trentbridge it's hard to see how wickets are going to fall unless batsmen get themselves out or help from the umpires as was the case with ballance the only way a result is going to happen is if India self destruct I love my test cricket but it's a hard watch again when there's no contest between bat and ball high scores don't make for good entertaining cricket about time groundsmen realise this world wide and produce livelier pitches