England v India, 3rd Investec Test, Ageas Bowl, 3rd day July 29, 2014

Kohli's weakness grows wider

Virat Kohli's is a game without any other glaring weakness but England have clearly tried to play on the attacking batsman's ego a bit but starving him outside off stump
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Trent Bridge
Just after lunch on day one, James Anderson and Stuart Broad bowl eight deliveries at Virat Kohli. Seven of them are outside off, one is short enough to be left alone. The eighth one of those is short of a length and wide, albeit from wide on the crease with the angle making Kohli play. Kohli plays, pushing away from the body, and his bat nudges it through for a catch to slip.

Ageas Bowl
Kohli has had a longer innings than at Trent Bridge. Fifty-three of the 75 balls he faces are pitched on a length or short of it, and arrive at him either outside off or really wide outside off. He has left alone 22 of those. The second ball of the 47th over is short of a length and wide, and he goes after it. The edge flies high to first slip and is not held. Anderson bowls the next over. Five balls outside off, three defended, two left alone. The sixth ball is short of a length and wide, Kohli can easily leave it, but he goes feeling for it, and he edges it through. This is the shot batsmen hate the most: a meek push to a ball that can be left alone; even if you middle it, you are not going to get anything.

Auckland ODI, January 2014
Hamish Bennett bowls two maidens to Kohli comprised almost exclusively of quick short-of-a-length balls that are at the seventh stump or wider. This is an ODI and the asking rate is big, but you can see Kohli is itching to feel the ball on the bat, and eventually nicks off.

Durban, December 2013
Once again, playing at a shortish ball outside off, Kohli is given out caught at the wicket. He is unfortunate, he hasn't hit this one, but he is pushing at a ball that can be left alone both on line and length.

A few similar dismissals might not yet point to a major weakness, but bowlers are increasingly bowling well outside off to Kohli. Dry up the runs, ask Kohli to play out of his comfort zone, on and around off where he cover-drives as well as anyone, and go away from the body if he wants those runs he so itches to get.

Kohli is an aggressive batsman, he loves to get early into an innings and set the tempo. His best innings in Test cricket have been those where he has restrained himself to leave and leave and leave until the bowlers bowl at him. At the Wanderers late last year, when Kohli scored a superlative hundred with the ball seaming around on day one, he didn't play at 16 of the first 28 deliveries he faced. He got himself in, got some runs before lunch, and then when the afternoon session began, he offered no shot to 11 of the first 17 he faced.

This is not as much a technical flaw as it is a habit, in that it is easier to correct than, say, being poor against the short ball. It is unique, too, in that batsmen usually are vulnerable when the ball is just outside off, and not wide of it. And Kohli's is a game without any other glaring weakness. England have clearly tried to play on the attacking batsman's ego a bit. If you bowl at the stumps, he gets solidly behind them, begins to feel confident feeling the ball on the bat and then drives gorgeously. In this series, in five innings, Kohli has managed only 11 runs through that cover-drive of his. The idea has been to not get too close to him either on length or line.

More than half the balls Kohli has faced in the series have been on a length or just short of it, and outside off or well wide of it. "Still two Tests to go. Not sure I can discuss that," Stuart Broad said when asked if they have been bowling wider at Kohli than they would other batsmen. "Let's just say he is pretty strong off his legs so you don't want to bowl too tight to the stumps. You have seen in one-day cricket how successful he is when bowlers bowl tight lines. We have worked - when the ball has not been swinging or the slightly flatter wickets - to just try to dot him up, try to not let him score. He left pretty well today. Apart from the one that he poked at. He will be frustrated with himself. We need to keep our disciplines with him."

Kohli has scored just 73 over these five innings, and will be under pressure after he came to England as the best batsman in the Indian line-up. Kohli has been working hard. Two days before the Test began he was in the nets before the rest of the team arrived. What he will be annoyed with is that he has fallen twice to a tame poke well outside off. The one he got at Lord's, with Anderson angling in towards off and then having it move away from just outside it, was a good delivery. That dismissal shouldn't concern him. This one should. Trent Bridge should. Watch out for those wide ones when he comes in to bat next.

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Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 30, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I remember Sachin Tendulkar had a similar issue in one of his tours to England. His solution : leave /defend all balls outside off and play only to the legside. He scored a huge century that way and the next match, he was back cover driving. I think Dravid or someone needs to talk to Kohli and suggest something similar. Kohli is a batsman who only needs one good innings to show his class, to dominate the English attack like only he can. He's clearly under immense pressure, not to retain his spot, but because he hates letting us down, and 5 innings without a big score is clearly below his standard. He just needs one 50..... Then he'll automatically push to a hundred.

  • on August 4, 2014, 19:50 GMT

    How did they change Kohli into a good looking guy? I used to think his eyes looked like fireballs or too large for his face! And as for his batting he batted superbly in one test in SA. His century in New Zealand was made when the game was fading into a draw. His Australian century was after the series defeat. In India he batted slow in tests. It looked like Indians have read too much into that brilliant innings he played in SA. That might be a fluke. Kohli may not be a really good batsman.

  • Happy_hamster on August 2, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    I am not surprised by Kohli's failure thus far as he is primarily a short form cricketer and a very good one at that, Pujara on the other hand I thought would be the prominent Indian batsman (not batter), he will find form again. It is not a given if someone exceeds at ODI they will be a force in test matches, he has a couple of good knocks abroad but overall does better on flat SC decks where he can bully the bowlers. Constantly we see calls to pick someone for tests based on how they have performed in the irrelevant, regarding test matches, IPL. Kohli is falling for the bait every time, and after nearly 30 tests....in addition his bowling and fielding are poor at best and the less said about his attitude the better.

  • on August 1, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    Kohli is a world class ODI player and while he may be very good looking and very rich and have an ego the size of Jupiter he is by far from the best Indian test batsman atm. Kohli has six tons and averages under 43, Pujara has six tons and averages over 54. Kohli's average is even worse than Root or Bell. But the telling stat? Of Pujara's 6 tons, most have been big including 2 doubles and two 150+. Even Root, after his first ton, has scored an unbeaten 150, a 180 and an unbeaten double. Kohli's top score is 119. Can you see the difference. Yes, his ODI batting is amazing (15-20 runs better average than Root or Bell) and given his good looks this makes him very marketable in India. But while Pujara could be the new Dravid, Kohli, in test matches, will never be the new Sachin. A world class bat would have turned one of his 6 tons into at least a 150. Ask anyone from Eng, Aus or SA whether they'd rather have Pujara or Virat in their test team. I'd also rather have Rahane.

  • on August 1, 2014, 6:55 GMT

    its unfortunate to see such an article..ODIs,tests,t20,kohli has been scoring heavily..in all conditions and everywhere.. he had scored test centuries in SA,AUS,NZ where the conditions were tough.. every great players had issues outside the off and even tendulkar or ponting were no exceptions. kholi played only couple of tests in Eng and its disappointing to see such an article.. he is young and is a class act..he will come out of this soon and anwser..

  • spinkingKK on August 1, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    To be honest, I haven't watched Kohli batting in this series (Because, before he comes to the crease, the other batsmen have well and truly made me go to sleep). But, judging by the scores I can see, it is not a surprise. Kohli is someone who bats well when faced with a big challenge. However, when the expectations are high and the weight of being the best batsman in the side being too big, he was meant to fail. This is where those of you who have been rating him higher than Tendulkar will find the truth. It is never easy to perform when you are expected to carry the nation's hope. It takes some special talent to do well in any conditions and then dominate the bowling attacks overseas. The likes of Dravid, VVS Laxman and Gavaskar have performed consistently well overseas. But, Tendulkar dominated attacks consistently in all the countries when the whole team relied on his brilliance. It will take at least another decade before we find another talent who is even comparable to Tendulkar.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    England Back With A Bang,,,,,Where are the critics gone who just criticize helpless cook,hardworking bell and Captaincy and said England are worst in 20 years,,,,i don't think a team which won by 270 margin is worst...

  • stormy16 on July 31, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    Storm in a tea cup this I am afraid. Sure he has had a few failures in England but great players before and after him have had the same issue. Dont think he has a problem outside off, the technicality being put forward is an issus for most batters, its just that Kholi has filed in 3 tests in Eng. The guy just scored hundreds in SA and NZ!!

  • 5wombats on July 31, 2014, 9:54 GMT

    Some time ago on cricinfo forums I said that Joe Root would do better than Virat Kohli and that if Kohli was a good player then so is Joe Root. Don't get me wrong - I can see that Kohli is a class act. But just now I would rather have Joe Root in my side than Kohli. Like a lot of current India batsmen - Kohli seems to be a shorter format kind of player. He wants to give it a whack and not be too concerned about his off stump or the waiting slips.... But I was really surprised to see him get out to Moeen yesterday, I mean REALLY surprised. Kohli is going to have to do some work on his game and become accomplished overseas - and Dravid could certainly help him with that.

  • 2nd_Slip on July 31, 2014, 9:46 GMT

    Kholi and Dhawan are nothing but ODI and T20 batsmen they dont have the levels of concentration required for test cricket.

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I remember Sachin Tendulkar had a similar issue in one of his tours to England. His solution : leave /defend all balls outside off and play only to the legside. He scored a huge century that way and the next match, he was back cover driving. I think Dravid or someone needs to talk to Kohli and suggest something similar. Kohli is a batsman who only needs one good innings to show his class, to dominate the English attack like only he can. He's clearly under immense pressure, not to retain his spot, but because he hates letting us down, and 5 innings without a big score is clearly below his standard. He just needs one 50..... Then he'll automatically push to a hundred.

  • on August 4, 2014, 19:50 GMT

    How did they change Kohli into a good looking guy? I used to think his eyes looked like fireballs or too large for his face! And as for his batting he batted superbly in one test in SA. His century in New Zealand was made when the game was fading into a draw. His Australian century was after the series defeat. In India he batted slow in tests. It looked like Indians have read too much into that brilliant innings he played in SA. That might be a fluke. Kohli may not be a really good batsman.

  • Happy_hamster on August 2, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    I am not surprised by Kohli's failure thus far as he is primarily a short form cricketer and a very good one at that, Pujara on the other hand I thought would be the prominent Indian batsman (not batter), he will find form again. It is not a given if someone exceeds at ODI they will be a force in test matches, he has a couple of good knocks abroad but overall does better on flat SC decks where he can bully the bowlers. Constantly we see calls to pick someone for tests based on how they have performed in the irrelevant, regarding test matches, IPL. Kohli is falling for the bait every time, and after nearly 30 tests....in addition his bowling and fielding are poor at best and the less said about his attitude the better.

  • on August 1, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    Kohli is a world class ODI player and while he may be very good looking and very rich and have an ego the size of Jupiter he is by far from the best Indian test batsman atm. Kohli has six tons and averages under 43, Pujara has six tons and averages over 54. Kohli's average is even worse than Root or Bell. But the telling stat? Of Pujara's 6 tons, most have been big including 2 doubles and two 150+. Even Root, after his first ton, has scored an unbeaten 150, a 180 and an unbeaten double. Kohli's top score is 119. Can you see the difference. Yes, his ODI batting is amazing (15-20 runs better average than Root or Bell) and given his good looks this makes him very marketable in India. But while Pujara could be the new Dravid, Kohli, in test matches, will never be the new Sachin. A world class bat would have turned one of his 6 tons into at least a 150. Ask anyone from Eng, Aus or SA whether they'd rather have Pujara or Virat in their test team. I'd also rather have Rahane.

  • on August 1, 2014, 6:55 GMT

    its unfortunate to see such an article..ODIs,tests,t20,kohli has been scoring heavily..in all conditions and everywhere.. he had scored test centuries in SA,AUS,NZ where the conditions were tough.. every great players had issues outside the off and even tendulkar or ponting were no exceptions. kholi played only couple of tests in Eng and its disappointing to see such an article.. he is young and is a class act..he will come out of this soon and anwser..

  • spinkingKK on August 1, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    To be honest, I haven't watched Kohli batting in this series (Because, before he comes to the crease, the other batsmen have well and truly made me go to sleep). But, judging by the scores I can see, it is not a surprise. Kohli is someone who bats well when faced with a big challenge. However, when the expectations are high and the weight of being the best batsman in the side being too big, he was meant to fail. This is where those of you who have been rating him higher than Tendulkar will find the truth. It is never easy to perform when you are expected to carry the nation's hope. It takes some special talent to do well in any conditions and then dominate the bowling attacks overseas. The likes of Dravid, VVS Laxman and Gavaskar have performed consistently well overseas. But, Tendulkar dominated attacks consistently in all the countries when the whole team relied on his brilliance. It will take at least another decade before we find another talent who is even comparable to Tendulkar.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    England Back With A Bang,,,,,Where are the critics gone who just criticize helpless cook,hardworking bell and Captaincy and said England are worst in 20 years,,,,i don't think a team which won by 270 margin is worst...

  • stormy16 on July 31, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    Storm in a tea cup this I am afraid. Sure he has had a few failures in England but great players before and after him have had the same issue. Dont think he has a problem outside off, the technicality being put forward is an issus for most batters, its just that Kholi has filed in 3 tests in Eng. The guy just scored hundreds in SA and NZ!!

  • 5wombats on July 31, 2014, 9:54 GMT

    Some time ago on cricinfo forums I said that Joe Root would do better than Virat Kohli and that if Kohli was a good player then so is Joe Root. Don't get me wrong - I can see that Kohli is a class act. But just now I would rather have Joe Root in my side than Kohli. Like a lot of current India batsmen - Kohli seems to be a shorter format kind of player. He wants to give it a whack and not be too concerned about his off stump or the waiting slips.... But I was really surprised to see him get out to Moeen yesterday, I mean REALLY surprised. Kohli is going to have to do some work on his game and become accomplished overseas - and Dravid could certainly help him with that.

  • 2nd_Slip on July 31, 2014, 9:46 GMT

    Kholi and Dhawan are nothing but ODI and T20 batsmen they dont have the levels of concentration required for test cricket.

  • RipalParmar1 on July 31, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    Kohli is not yet an established test cricketer. Sorry fans, but he has a long way to go as far as the test cricket is concerned. It is not about how many runs he scored in six innings but he was easily fooled by ordinary English bowling. In comparison, Bhuv Kumar's batting technique was much better and shot selection was even far better. I am quite confident that he is not going to be successful in the remaining two tests as well.

  • on July 31, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    One word sums up Kohli outside of India and that is AVERAGE

  • MelbourneMiracle on July 31, 2014, 3:08 GMT

    Kholi's average in 6 innings: 16.83 Bhuvaneshwar's avg in 5 innings: 57.00

    And now can someone please tell me who's the better batsman in English conditions from these two?

  • markatnotts on July 30, 2014, 21:01 GMT

    I myself as an England fan, have also seen enough of Kohli elsewhere in the world to be pretty sure this is a blip. Yes there is a slight technical and possibly concentration problem. Many a fine player has these and overcomes them. I think he will in time. Ballance has issues that will be exposed in time, he has a fair chance to overcome them. If you want to look for players that probably can't, Sam Robson springs to mind.

  • Indiaforever on July 30, 2014, 19:46 GMT

    When you watch Kohli at the crease you never feel that he is completely out of form, he always plays a few really nice shots on the eye. He has a slight problem with concentration also, if you saw at lords in the first innings he was probably the one Indian batsman that looked fluent only to them edge one to the slips. Yeah, he has trouble against the ball outside off stump, but many batsman have. He definitely seems like the player that will improve his technique by talking to the coaches and playing for long periods of time in the nets. Once he scores one big score, there will be many more. Both himself and Pujara have not done what was needed from them so far, but they have the opportunity to improve that. We desperately need them to fire.

  • Jackpot6 on July 30, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    Long story short - This is the real TEST of a cricketer's mental, physical, psychological abilities and techniques on which INDIAN batting line up is miserably failed. So what about that WIN; kudos to Kumar & lucky SHARMA!

  • on July 30, 2014, 17:19 GMT

    Aditya prakash It is actually in Australia that Sachin scored 241notout not in England. But good thing suggested by you is that Dravid has to talk to Kohli

  • on July 30, 2014, 15:15 GMT

    Its perhaps the lack of determination...He must look to the innings of M Vijay in lord's 2nd innings...He would learn a lot

  • sheru-sher on July 30, 2014, 15:04 GMT

    Kohli and Dhawan are flat -track bullies in T20 and ODI matches played in India.

  • on July 30, 2014, 14:28 GMT

    @ Aadhithya Prakash...Your Observation was right, but Sachin had similar problem against Aus on 2003-04 tour,atlast he came back with 241* and 60* in final test match at sydney...That was Steve Waugh farewell test... In England Sachin never had such problem and always scored lot of runs except 2011 Whitewash.... Proud of SRT fan...

  • mohsin9975 on July 30, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    All those feel that VK will get back to form leaving balls in that channel as SRT did in 2003-04 Aus series, are mistaken. Its not as if he could not score/had weakness with that line & length. SRT was a proven Test great already by that time. He got a second wind to his career after that. He transformed into a defensive Test batsman after that for the sake of the team(Though i dislike him for that bcoz it was the best time for him to play his natural game with greats like Sehwag,Dravid, VVS & Gangu in the team). Its different with VK. He hasnt got a great FC record. A Test avg of 42. Hasnt done anything great in Test Cricket. Doesnt have a backfoot offside game. He 1st has to establish himself in Test cricket & build a technique for back-of-a-length deliveries

  • on July 30, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    a century is aroud the corner

  • mohsin9975 on July 30, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    @Ruchit Khushu This weakness is nt due to loss of form. He gets out in the same fashion even in ODI & T20s when he is new at the crease or when white ball is new. I m saying this watching this series. I hav watched him since his debut in SL. Even in that series the ball was swinging & he got out edging to slip or WK.

  • crzcric on July 30, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    @ rony_22: don't U know SA,NZ,Aus also have flat wickets. Don't u know about belters??? No of centuries and avg is not good enough to measure a batsman . Situation and conditions matters.

  • Sigismund on July 30, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    A bit torn, as I'm a huge Kohli fan and was looking forward to beholding some of his awesome strokeplay this series. But, as it has panned out, England would be a lot further behind in the series if we hadn't kept him quiet, so a good thing on that side. I hope he scores 250 in the next match, while the rest are out for single-digit scores!

  • on July 30, 2014, 12:22 GMT

    At the outset, Kohli is a class act. He has found a way to let his talent come through in overseas tests..the breakthrough he got was in Perth and Adelaide tests. Till then his game was to go after the ball outside the off stump. But, in those two innings he figured a way. left a lot of balls outside and made the bowlers bowl to him. Since then, you see a different Kohli in tests (safer, leaving balls a lot) v the Kohli in ODI and T20s.(free flow of talent). While the fact is he has not yet got a big one on this tour, he has not looked out of touch..Too much analysis, trying to draw parallels, looking for patters, etc..the game moves forward because of mistakes made - by bowlers which allow batsmen to score runs, and by batsmen which gets them out..that is the FUN part..:-)

  • on July 30, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    he is n awesome player .. just need him to talk to dravid..

  • SAF-Fan-no-1 on July 30, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    Drop Kohli and Get Gambhir - Also Drop Dhawan - and get involved Rohit to Open. Kohli can't do nothing in this series. I personnely don't belive in this series kohli will get going. No way he can bat. English Man knows how they bowl aginst Kohli. - My Team Should - Vijay & Gambhir open - Pujara, Rohit, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Sami, Pankaj, Bhuvi, Jadeja.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on July 30, 2014, 11:59 GMT

    He has enough class to score big runs.

  • CricketChat on July 30, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    With both 'found out' Dhawan and Pujara not making useful contributions, Kohli has been under too much pressure to hold the innings together right from the start. He was never allowed the luxury of easing himself in. May be, he will be better off after this bitter experience.

  • on July 30, 2014, 11:47 GMT

    India strugling.. SL played way better than india against england.. Well played england.. Cant believe you lost the last match..

  • on July 30, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    @Romy_22. Using that logic is silly as Ravi Bopara has scored centuries and Stokes has a century in Aus too ha ha , face it Kohli I as average at test level as his average of 40 proves that as Warner has played same amount of tests and his average is 48 and rising.

  • on July 30, 2014, 11:27 GMT

    hope he will come good in next innings

  • rony_22 on July 30, 2014, 11:24 GMT

    @crzcric and others who are quick to say he is not a gud test batsman, pls note that he scored centuries everywhere. SA, NZ, Aus.

  • on July 30, 2014, 11:21 GMT

    Virat just needs one 50+ score to get kicking again. In Australia, 2012, he failed in the first two tests, but came up with a fighting 75 in the second innings of the third, and followed it up with a 100 the next test. When Virat comes good, he'll throw all this analysis, all "bowling plans" out of discussion in one innings.

  • on July 30, 2014, 11:17 GMT

    Kohli is having lean form. No doubt about his class. Form is temporary but his class is permanent. He is bound to come back strong sooner or later, but for sure in ODI,s.

  • WankhedeMainAayaBhoot on July 30, 2014, 10:58 GMT

    I never expected that kholi will be out of form for this long.

  • RayMcCooney on July 30, 2014, 10:58 GMT

    If Kohli is overrated then that's the fault of those who rated him; the same Indian fans who are now turning on him. It doesn't matter what you guys or I think or say. What is important is what the Indian authorities think. I believe he is a class act and has a big future ahead of him. What we have to come to terms with in world cricket is the downside of T-20 platforming underprepared cricketers into the test arena. Do one of two things; give him time to settle or send him over here to qualify for England (:-))

  • on July 30, 2014, 10:25 GMT

    He is a master class player And knows what to do when

  • subnys on July 30, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    Short and simple!! Virat Kohli is over rated in Tests.

  • Notoriously_Green on July 30, 2014, 10:05 GMT

    A player's talents should not be decided by centuries.. This is not new for Kohli to lose while playing outside off.. A thoughtful, unagitated bowler could get Kohli with just common sense.. Kohli is not an enigma.. Bowlers like Junaid, Anderson, Philander have bowled to him cleverly.. Just rational thinking could enable a bowler to get kohli out...

  • on July 30, 2014, 9:55 GMT

    I have come across quite a lot of people who believe that Kohli is already a cricketing great. That simply is not true. He has been outstanding in ODI Cricket for the last 4 or 5 years but hasn't done anything extraordinary in Test Cricket. One-dayers have become increasingly a batsman's game with flat pitches, shorter boundaries, fielding restrictions, etc. This is not to say that Kohli has no future in the longer version - he has potential but it certainly won't be easy succeeding in Tests.

  • raogp2003 on July 30, 2014, 9:39 GMT

    Virat lost out on a good good opportunity to put mind over matters.The situation was idle for him to craft an innings as Sachin did in 2003 at Sydney,cutting down all his attacking strokes and scoring a double hundred. He needed to do that not only for his own good, but the team needed it most. He is consume more by his EGO at this moment. The greatness of Dravid and Waugh lays not in style but in overcoming limitations. He sure has one more opportunity to take himself to another level that would define KOHLI, the person. Not the player.

  • on July 30, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    He will need to sort out his form very soon as it won't get any easier against Australia's attack as he will get no relief from Johnston , Harris , Siddle as all three of them will bowl to him there all day long just waiting for him to edge it to slips.

  • crzcric on July 30, 2014, 9:36 GMT

    How can you expect to see a batsmans weekness in Flat tracks in India.Not just kohli ,any batmans can be seen as no weekpoint in flat tracks thats What happened here. To see a quality of a batsman you need to see them bat on a Green top or a rank turner. Personnally i believe no batsman is perfect. What a good batsman do is Hide his weakneess and play to his Strengths. Too much expectations from kohli. Give him time .

  • gujratwalla on July 30, 2014, 9:36 GMT

    Kohli is a gifted player going through a lean time.He will overcome this weakness.He has plenty of time to work over his game.Maybe too much cricket is hindring him here.He is the best of the current crop,a bit too cocky but failures will mellow him down!

  • starincricket on July 30, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    @ Aadhithya Prakash : interesting comments.. virat is classy.. needs more determination from him.

  • ground-boy on July 30, 2014, 9:32 GMT

    Batsman is a ball watcher,should measure line and length ball by ball and figure out where the off stump is. Kohli knows this but Dhoni has to advise/remind him for world to see Indian daughters' smile.

  • on July 30, 2014, 9:27 GMT

    Please for god sake please leave Kohli. Let him come back to form. if he founds his form NO ONE CAN STOP HIM Instead of wooing Kohli think of NOHIT Sharma (oh my god I don't know still how many chances he need)

  • chechong0114 on July 30, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    Like Irfan Pathan, Gambir, Harbajan Singh and so many more that are to come, Kohli is feeling the effects of burn out due to an overwhelming amount of worldwide touring and an excessive work schedule with very little rest. Can anyone tell me when was the last time the Indian team had at least 6 good months of rest from any type of cricket? No other nation in world cricket is subjecting its players to this kind of brutality, and because India is the salvation army of international cricket and all of the cricket world depend on them to survive nobody seems to care for these poor players. Just look at the upcoming months after this long grueling tour, a packed itenary with little to no rest await these men. This is a crisis that BCCI has on its hands, and it only gets worst in the coming years as the rest of the world continues to heavily depend on India to eat and drink. This is nothing short of foolishness and the Indian people need to speak up and save their beloved team.

  • Aroundthelegsgoogly on July 30, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    I think it's a comfort issue and nothing more than that. His low confidence will affect his judgement and of course footwork and shot making. We all know that in terms of his batsmanship Kohli is well rounded and supreme ODI batsman. He just needs to translate that into the Test arena to become a true great. Remember that he is only 25 yet, he should be persisted with and given space room and support. He will bloom. With all that talent - he has to. I'm quite dissapointed with Pujara to be honest with you. I'd have thought his mental strength would see him do well in England. Murali Vijay has pleasantly suprised me and Rahane has also played well in terms of his positivity and fearlessness. So far its a good series in my opinion.

  • Johnny_129 on July 30, 2014, 9:11 GMT

    I am no batting expert but after watching Test cricket for many many years, I can say that the so called weakness in Kohli's technique can be corrected - It is not a fatal one. Unlike, Raina & Ganguly's technique against the short ball which became their achilles heel, Kohli just needs to leave more balls alone in Tests - I'm sure he can easily just as long as he is determined to succeed in Tests and is willing to be patient. In saying that, I don't think Kohli is as determined/ interested in test cricket - He looks happier in the shorter formats. Kohli's mindset is somewhat different to Dravid, Tendulkar, Pujara and Rahane. Perhaps the long intro into shorter formats have formed him!!

  • on July 30, 2014, 9:09 GMT

    Really kohli sucks as a test cricketer,,, if everyone feels is wrong he has be matured in that format then only ....As odi is played often he matured in that so he became most prolific run getter.... Wait for the days to come he show his class in this format also...But I don't understand my captain not selecting gambhir to open in test when he is selected...

  • Shibu1981 on July 30, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    As a batsman one should know where his off stump is. Kohli in this particular innings was eager to play a big innings but he was unfortunate to got out. The ball that he got out from Jimmy was a perfect ball to a rght hand batsman, i hope 90% of the batsman wouldnt be able to leave that delivery, it pitched in middle and heading to top of off sump, but the problem here is the way he played that ball, it was only a defensive push not even a gentle push. The angle of the bat was also to the slip cordon.This is his only 5th innings in england hope he will come good in the ollowing ones.

  • on July 30, 2014, 8:43 GMT

    He's not good odi player but good t20 player n that also in ipl where he earns good amount getting one game won for india is nothing.

  • on July 30, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    So you are judging a cricketer by a few innings he has played the way what you are looking for? Nice one. Every batsman has one or more weak zones. He has only one zone. If he eliminates that also, he will become god.

  • dilipshinde on July 30, 2014, 8:39 GMT

    Luck is a huge factor in a batsman losing his form as is the case with Virat in this tour.

  • cricketsubh on July 30, 2014, 8:29 GMT

    world think kholi becamoes great player he can score runs in any pitches people put his odi record in to test he is young player in test scoring runs in odi at the moment is to easy he is not a great test batsmen so donot make him great test batsmen he is not clarke,abd,amla who can score runs in any pitches so donot make him a great player in test cricket he is a gud player he not become a world class test so 1st he need to bacame a world class player then talk abt great player .plz publish cricinfo

  • mzm149 on July 30, 2014, 8:29 GMT

    People bragging about Kohli's centuries outside India should know that he has not won a single test in which he scored those centuries. He is a good ODI player but ordinary test player.

  • on July 30, 2014, 8:26 GMT

    he is a young player and will overcome his mistakes and technique. Just chill kohli, it happens to every big player and you are a big payer for india. keep playing and keep making runs.

  • ParikshithKP_12 on July 30, 2014, 8:25 GMT

    In 2004 series Downunder, Sachin Tendulkar struggled with the cover drive and with the line outside the off stump. He had just scored 82 runs in five innings until Sydney innings. In that innings Sachin didn't touch any ball outside off and just played lines which were on his pads, towards leg. He went on to score a masterclass 241*. Ended up the series with an average of 76. Likewise, Kohli is so very good on his pads. He just needs to be patient and leave all the balls outside off and grind the bowlers, making them bowl on his pads. Meanwhile he should work on his off-stump line weakness and you can't get any better mentor than the great Rahul Dravid to that matter.

  • storm81 on July 30, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    @ Charlie101: I suggest you look at his test innings in Jo'burg (100 & 96) and & Wellington (105*), Perth (75), Adelaide (100). There are no doubts about his test credentials, half a series in England doesn't make you any less of a player.

  • on July 30, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    cheteshwar pujara , ajinkya rahane even rohit sharma has better batsman than virat kohali.......look at their first class record....kohali is not a good test batsman..

  • TATTUs on July 30, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    C'mon, 2-3 innings and you have a smashing headline saying about his 'weakness'! 99% of the batsmen are not sure about their play when its in that corridor. He just happens to have got some good balls.

  • Charlie101 on July 30, 2014, 7:53 GMT

    Virat Kolhi;s formidable reputation has been gained mostly in the short formats of the game and for the moment it does seem that he has been worked out in the test format. This is exactly why we all still love the long format and a proper 5 test series with both batsmen and bowlers thoroughly tested.

    I have no doubt that Kohli will play a memorable innings in the series but not tomorrow please !!!

  • vkumar_086 on July 30, 2014, 7:52 GMT

    Kohli is still at very young age, just 25 years...im sure he will come out of this weakness...Sachin was also facing similar kind of problem, but he evolved through new technique, hope Kohli also find solution for this with the help of legends who are in England (Ganguly, Dravid)...im sure that he will score big runs in second innings...at least one century in remaining 2 test matches

  • on July 30, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    junaid khan found his this weakness first time in his life and now everyone arround the world using it against him

  • india_boy33 on July 30, 2014, 7:40 GMT

    @GRVJPR- Yes why not bro we can do it. You are right leave this inning out, then try to take English wickets in hurry in 3rd session & then India will have at least 3.5 sessions to bat or to achieve a target of 350+ If our openers gave a good start then we have batsmen till no.10 to achieve this target. Remember Dhoni & Dhawan's Inng against Aus in Ind. If they played so aggressively against Aussies pacers then what's the problem against this weak English bowling lineup.

  • Test_Real_Cricket on July 30, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    Nice comment Mr.ADITYA. Good suggestion indeed.

  • on July 30, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    I was extremely disappointed yesterday with the way Virat got out, more so because he was on 39 got his eye in and didn't cash in after getting a start. Its more a case of discipline now, he has to leave balls and not poke at delivery outside off stump for a defensive push. He should probably have a word with Rahul Dravid about his weakness and more so he must stay positive. He has been India's best batsman in all 3 formats in the last 2-3 years, so he must believe in himself and play confidentally. He is a class player and its only a matter of time before he starts scoring. He has got couple of beautiful deliveries from Anderson and one from Plunkett but he will be upset that he didn't capitalise after getting a start yesterday. For all Virat Kohli fans I will say just keep calm and he will score because form is temporary and class is permanent

  • Test_Real_Cricket on July 30, 2014, 7:34 GMT

    All this is rubbish to discuss. Kholi is Challenging star of indian cricket. Matter of time. He is gr8 player like sachin. Don't worry guys.

  • mjrvasu on July 30, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Kohli's recent IPL innings flops also came from giving catches in the slip cordon or wicketkeeper.

  • on July 30, 2014, 7:23 GMT

    Suddenly the knives are out. Yes Kohli's weakness outside off stump came into prominence against NZ in an ODI. H. Bennette bowled bowled 2 maiden against V. Kohli in an ODI. That clearly shows he is not comfortable playing that line. It will be interesting how he cope with this. Definitely he is under pressure, as the expectation was huge as even Manjrekar was expecting Kohli to score at least 3 hundreds !!! Must be kidding...

  • ruester on July 30, 2014, 7:22 GMT

    Kohli is a quality player, but maybe not a test player. His enormous ego (everyone in world cricket knows about it) won't allow him to leave the ball alone. he likes to feel bat on ball and with international teams bowling wide of off stump and drying him up, he goes after balls he shouldn't. In ODI cricket the fields are more defensive and bowlers can't bowl too wide like they can in tests, Kohli gets far more balls in his area to score off. he is very talented but may not have the temperament for test cricket?

  • ruester on July 30, 2014, 7:15 GMT

    GVRJPR I love your optimism. Does it not frustrate you that if India used DRS then Bell would not of made 150? the only country in the world not to like DRS is India...WHY? but then again if DRS had been used Ballance could still be batting!

  • Nayan_Bhuyan on July 30, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    Gautam Gambhir is deserving his chance as Shikhar Dhawan & Virat Kohli not performing at all..

  • sasisurineni on July 30, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    Legendary batsmen Dravid is available, Best way is Kohli should approach him and ask how to play those fifth stump deliveries and rectify. Not that someone will come to him and tell.

  • on July 30, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    He will definitely bounce back next 2nd innings

  • Indian_Kari_Pakku on July 30, 2014, 6:54 GMT

    We can not compare Virat Kohli to sachin or any other world class batsmen. Its too early for that. If he keeps failing like this We may want to give chance to another youngster.

  • GRVJPR on July 30, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    This is from die hard Indian fan to Cook. Don't allow dhoni to bat even 50 more balls. In this situation he is quite capable of sending 20 balls out of rope. That is 120 runs in no time. Lead about 140. Mr. cook jadeja won't drop your catch in second innings and bell you will be given out LBW this time. Buttler edge will carry to rahane. England all out for 220. Which means target 360 in three and half session. Dhawan ordered to go bezerk since he is out of form and score quick 70 of edges and chances. Traget down to 280. Can India chase 280 last day? They can. If not they can play out a draw.

  • siddhartha87 on July 30, 2014, 6:41 GMT

    relax guys Kohli will be among runs soon. He is a very fast learner.

  • BGKrishna on July 30, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    Fully agree with 'Jimbond'. Kohli is a good player but eager fans have catapulted him prematurely to dizzying heights based on good ODI innings in the subcontinent. It is this same ODI obsession that has seen exit of Ashwin too based on one innings failure in tests. Test cricket is different and pitches abroad will separate out the technically correct. So far only Vijay and Rahane have shown that. Even Pujara has not matched upto the 75 he averages at home, although he has tried v hard his avg outside is 35 which is still good early in career. Kohli should tone down his ambitions for captaincy etc and focus on rectifying his technique and temperament. A few good ODI innings will also bolster his confidence although it may be too late for this series.

  • Nandu_Athadu on July 30, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    Yes. Kohli has bigger weakness around off stump..this is evident from his recent dismissals. He plays with an angled bat while back foot defense and even on-the-crease defense. This is highly dangerous while playing outside of the sub-continent where even a slightest of movement will nick to the slip fielders. I think this is becoz too much of limited over cricket where playing with the angled bat will give you runs for a good ball around the off stump. Kohli is talent player and his greatness lies in working on his weakness and coming up with a plan to compensate it. Also he needs to play with soft bottom hand which, even in the case of nick, would take the pace of the ball and may fall short of slip fielders. I observed his dismissals in this tour and most of them have been played with u hard push at the ball. Kohli has to speak to Vjay and Rahane on this who has best technique for TEST cricket.

  • Niju_001 on July 30, 2014, 6:36 GMT

    Kohli is a spectacular batsman. He is very intuitive thats why he cannot leave balls outside off like Vijay does often. But he is very hardworking and hardwork does pays.. so wait he will definitely bounce back.

  • AdhishS on July 30, 2014, 6:33 GMT

    Guys.... Kohli is too classy a player to be dropped after just a few failures. He is striking the ball well, just not going on to make big runs. As per the law of averages, this was bound to happen after 2-3 successful years he has had. He will soon be back in form with a century, maybe in one of the next two matches. I see Kohli becoming one of the greats of Indian cricket in all formats, a new modern hero after Sachin.

  • LAKINGSFAN on July 30, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    @Deepak Mariyappa: I think you don't know the difference between ODI and test cricket. Kohli didn't have any test records. All his records were in ODI. England pacers got his number. If he manages to cross single digits in any of the(possible) remaining 5 test innings in England that would be a great achievement. My bet is he's not gonna last another 100 balls in those remaining 5 innings combined together. Just wait and watch his batting in second innings.

    //He is going through a bit of a bad patch and he will get out of it for sure.// Yeah, sure. May be after his retirement.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 30, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    write all you want but he is one player who cannot be kept quite for a long time. Just a matter of time he comes up with hundered

  • Pacelikefire_Samrat on July 30, 2014, 6:27 GMT

    I also feel that this has a lot to due with a minor technical flaw,he has a closed stance with the front foot pointing largely towards mid on instead of straight down the ground.Also I have noticed that his bat is coming down from gully,so for deliveries which move away or the ones which pitch on or around off stump and move away he plays with an angled bat and is very likely to nick them to the slips or even gully.

  • jimbond on July 30, 2014, 6:15 GMT

    Nothing's wrong with Kohli, he is just the way he used to be. Its just that fanatic Indians had Tenkulkarized him based on some good performances (mainly iin ODIs.) Batsmen who have some minor weakness get more probed in tests because there is no restriction on the number of overs a bowler can bowl, and less problems with no balls and wides. Even before England, Kohli has a mediocre average (for a top order batsman) in the low 40s and that too in subcontinental conditions. Based on his game I would expect him to do slightly better in his playing career- possibly an average in the high 40s. Of the four middle order batsmen that India have, all four are roughly of the same calibre. Fans and commentators may choose to laud one or demonise another based on current form or the last performance. These four are good enough to be the mainstays of Indian batting in the years to come. They are not good as Tendulkar, Dravid or Sehwag, but Pujara, Kohli, Sharma are good enough.

  • on July 30, 2014, 6:08 GMT

    Virat Kohli just needs to work on his mental game. Patience and the battle of attrition that is Test Cricket need to be awakened. It will come as he continues to grow in stature. Who knows, may be he is trying to hard and should possibly go after a few of those wide-ish one. God knows he has the talent. As far as pressure is concerned, I think he should feel none, he has displayed his capabilities, talent and eagerness to perform, always.

  • Kruns on July 30, 2014, 6:07 GMT

    This is absolutely rubbish every game a player cannot make a 100 there are some comments that he gets impatient after leaving 4-5 balls..... Thats not true but some players have Ego on the wicket of scoring runs and there is nothing wrong in that greats Like Sachin , Sehwag from India also had that ego.......Both of them have succeeded at this level and so will kohli be.....

    We have sachin getting out like this and having problem in scoring runs and he was getting out with a cover drives , what he did was he stopped that shot until he gets some runs under his belt and ended up with 200+ score but after that game he was back at his aggression best and think Kohli needs to do just this for one game i hope he does not leave his EGO of scoring runs as that would make him the best from the Lot.....

    Keep watching people he would be back with a bang ..... Currently after AB he is most versatile batsman to play all formats just by pure class.....

  • on July 30, 2014, 6:07 GMT

    Balaji you are wrong as my point of view it is to hurry to change captain ship. Dhoni has selected a wrong team selection .He should give chance to gambhir and ashwin instead for dhawan and binny as ashwin is a all rounder. Inspite kohli failure he should given a time for his error in batting but dropped from team is to hurry . He is a match winner.The bowling department should be change but india fielding is also not upto the mark.few imp catch drop at crucial time.So pls select the right team in 4th test by dhoni

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:52 GMT

    As the commenting forum suggests - not to jump conclusions.. Even Sachin had weakness in his cover drive which he avoided in Sydney to get a big run. It's natural a batsman have some weakness, real thing whether he is ready to correct it or not.. We believe in kohli.

  • kmun on July 30, 2014, 5:50 GMT

    Dear friends, Kohli can be excused, though his shot selection and fishing outside the off stump is unpardonable considering his talent.I don't know how to vent my anger at Rohit Sharma and Rahane.If India fails to avoid the follow on, these two should immediately be sent back to India .One can understand the necessity of quick runs, but when the new ball is 15 overs away what Rohit is done is nothing but foolishness.They should be used to warm the bench and ultimately remain as club players.They do not deserve proud Indian jersy.

  • balaji28 on July 30, 2014, 5:40 GMT

    According to me virat kohli has a great weakness when the ball is bowled in off stump line and he regularly gives catch practice to the opposition fielders.If he continues by not rectifying his weakness then it will be great drawback for india. So my best suggestion is better virat takes rest from playing test cricket for at least an year,rectify his weakness and then return back to test cricket. If kohli continues to do the same then you can expect him to score a century once in a series but he will surely falter in rest of the match. May be rohit,jaddu and shikhar need to dropped from the test squad while virat shouldn't be selected from the squad until he rectifies his error. While pujara or vijay can be given the test captaincy as dhoni is soon going to retire and may be replaced by saha or dinesh karthik or naman ojha in the test squad.

  • LAKINGSFAN on July 30, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    // I think Dravid or someone needs to talk to Kohli //. No one needs to talk to Kohli. It's Kohli who shouldn't talk. His bat should talk. Unless he shuts his loud mouth and concentrate on his batting nothing is gonna happen.

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    See kohli is a good bat...bt he is nt the type of test player as pujara,dravid,laxman...coz after leaving 5 6 deliveries ..he loses his patience and go after the ball ..if u have to play in test u have to be very patient like rahul dravid..thats why he was such a great player of test ..plus nw every1 has seen his weakness if he cnt correct it ..he would be in a big problem..AND DHONI PLZ STOP PLAYING SHIKHAR DHAWAN ...PLZ GV GAMBHIR A CHANCE

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:27 GMT

    It is just pathetic to see how people are waiting to pounce on somebody struggling a bit with form. This man has so many records which even the best guys for India don't have. He fails for a couple of games, thats it. Every damn fellow becomes an expert telling what he should do and what he should not. Form is temporary Class is permanent and this is full of class. He is going to bounce back. Some other article says he is a flat track bully. In one way or the other every player is a flat track bully. He is going through a bit of a bad patch and he will get out of it for sure.

    He is one of the gems India has seen for years and who will play for India for longer than what these pathetic people hope for.

  • social_monster09 on July 30, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Virat is a talented batsman no doubt, but his style of playing is much suited ODI & T-20 formats rather than tests. I admire his efforts in Aus & SA where he scored tons. I don't rate NZ's ton as his best becoz there's a lot of difference in bowling quality of NZ in comparison of Aus or SA. I think if he wanna succeed in test format he should accept the role of anchor-man. As Steven smith is doing for Aus & Faf du Plessis for SA. Then he will be consider as a good test batsman.

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:23 GMT

    VK is comparatively one of the best batsmen around.Lean period is part and parcel of the game.One good innings will change the current drought of runs.

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    Mohsin..don't make comments when h don't understand cricket..kohl I has no Blackfoot game..hahahahh

  • on July 30, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    I AM very sure he will very on correct this tendency ad be his own self....

  • on July 30, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    So he is not world class..

  • Nayan-Jyoti on July 30, 2014, 4:46 GMT

    Kohli will overcome his weakness, but I don't think he will score many big hundreds. He will score hundreds no doubt but I am talking about scores above 150, 200 etc. like Dravid, Sachin, Laxman or even Sehwag use to do. Vijay will be more successful on that front. It is harder to get Vijay's wicket than Kohli. And on very difficult pitches Rahane will be more successful. But I hope Kohli proves me wrong.

  • cricaddict9118 on July 30, 2014, 4:37 GMT

    Sachinization of Kohli continues !

    Anyone remembers Aus 2002-03 series? Poking outside off almost every time till that famous innings of 241 at Sydney where he almost didn't play a single cover drive.

    Manchester or Oval should be in for some treat. It might as well happen in 2nd innings here at Ageas Bowl :)

  • sundersingh on July 30, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    NO worries for KHOLI he has to leave those balls or attack the ball with horizontal bat shots.... any way another yuvraj in making ( i hope u all understand what i trying to say ). kholi should not be compared to SRT for the disciplinary attitude

  • on July 30, 2014, 4:10 GMT

    leave him alone ........ he will bounce back

  • RahulWise on July 30, 2014, 4:09 GMT

    I have posted this weakness of Kohli long back, when he was blasting all teams in ODIs. He never plays square cuts or good back foot play on offside. I was surprised pleasantly when scored century in SA and did well in NZ as well. I repeat again, even though he has very good record in ODIs, he will not be able to do well in tests, esp overseas. He will be unstoppable in sub continent though.

  • on July 30, 2014, 4:07 GMT

    How quickly we jump to conclusions is a real surprise to me, though I have seen it umpteen number of times. Nowhere in the article it is said that he has a 'technical flaw'. It is more about his patience and ego at the moment, according to this article. He is still good at playing balls close to off stump. So he is not a poor judge of his off stump. It is just that if he has played a few deliveries without feeling it on the bat, he gets impatient. the sort of player he is, he will notice that too and will get that patience over time. As a batsman in test cricket one can afford to have that too. In this English line-up once he seems of Anderson and Broad, others are not that good or consistent to really test Kohli's patience. He is not a mug outside off by any yard stick. He plays the horizontal bat shots good too. So too short and too wide is a recipe for disaster against him. I am sure in this series alone we will see an innings, or more, of sheer dominance by Virat Kohli.

  • on July 30, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    He has been pushing at the balls just outside off instead of smashing them over the bowler's head,like Jadeja did. How well Bhuvi smashed Broad for 3 4s in one over ! If Bhuvi can Kohli also can...The moment they get smashed they start sweating. Whatever you do you have to move your feet in line with the ball and play or drive, but not from your crease..

  • mohsin9975 on July 30, 2014, 3:43 GMT

    CONTD.....I expect Rahane to be more consistent & prolific in Test cricket than Kohli. Batting in Test cricket is back-foot play. Rahane has more shots off the back-foot ie b-f punch & cut/pull. VK is a front-foot player & zero back-foot shots vs pacers. Expect VK to do well in ODI & T20 ala Yuvraj, unless bowlers pepper him with same channel & field postions in ODI as well

  • on July 30, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    so that technical deficiency in technique is the main reason why he is not judging well outside the offstump. apart from the wise thinking of the bowlers u will notice this problem from new zealand and england conditions. right about now rahane has the best technique to counter the english conditions so far in terms of defense and attack, while vijay has great judgement.

  • on July 30, 2014, 3:33 GMT

    before kohli came to england. i always felt in my self that he would struggle in england than anywhere else. there is a reason why i say this. during the south africa tour kohli was out edging in the one day series playing a vertical shot. in that test tour he did well by judging to leave the ball on length against steyn and co. because of the bounce of the south african wickets. now in england its a bigger test in kohli's defensive technique. kohli doesnt defend with a very dead straight bat very close to his pad. most times the bat is close to the pad with a slight open face. with less bounce in england, he then is susceptible to the in dipper bowling him through the gate, and what it causes him to do is open his bat face to deliveries outside the offstump. so even if kohli starts playing horizontal cuts, that is only going erase half of his technical issues. kohli needs to have a bigger stride against the moving ball with a straight bat close to pad not just a half stride

  • mohsin9975 on July 30, 2014, 3:33 GMT

    How do u expect a player to start playing a cut shot when he has never done in his life? As sharp & intelligent that MSD might be, try teaching him the front foot cover drive on an out-swinger. VK is a front-foot pressor & bottom-handed, predominantly leg-side player. Thats how he has got all his runs in ODI & T20s. Test Cricket is a different ball game. U got to play shots on the off-side. A ball on the stumps/pads is a bad ball in Tests. The line outside off just short of driving length is a normal delivery. He has slipped under the radar due to greats in the Test team. He is bound to be targetted now being tagged the best batsman in the side

  • on July 30, 2014, 3:22 GMT

    Ajit agarkar said that kohli has been out in this series to very good balls that was unplayable but the ball that dismissed jadeja was a real beauty from anderson.kohli has a real weakness around that off stump otherwise he would have left the ball which was on the 5th stump and angling away from the stumps.if india do manage to avoid the follow on then they can save this test match

  • Mervo on July 30, 2014, 3:18 GMT

    Kohli usually gets himself out. He is a terrific batsman to watch but has a technique that is based on how good his eye and the bounce are on any particular day. If he is tied down by accurate pace bowling with any movement off the pitch or in the air, he is a risky business. Fearless, but risky. A bit like Kevin Pietersen was. He will often disappoint his devotees.

  • Sniper on July 30, 2014, 3:12 GMT

    Kohli has disappointed many by his regular failures by giving a catch to the slips. While he may leave such balls, he needs a lot of patience to score slowly. Alternately he should find a way of avoiding giving a catch. Playing with a horizontal bat is one way of doing it. He will not only succeed in making a good score but frustrate the English bowlers by scoring of those off-side balls. The English bowlers will have to find a new way of getting him out. It is time he gets over this weakness. Sniper

  • Sexysteven on July 30, 2014, 3:03 GMT

    I think kohli will come good eventually it's more a mental thing for him trying to leave more and wait for the bowlers to bowl on his pads then he can play shots he just needs to be a little more patient when he starts then he can get more aggressive once he's got astart then the runs and big scores will come no weakness it's more a mindset thing for kohli I think

  • MelbourneMiracle on July 30, 2014, 3:02 GMT

    On the surfaces and conditions where Kholi is failing utterly, Mathews dominated with the bat. Kholi's test avg: 42. Mathews: 51...May the pure cricketing brains decide who's the best batsman out of these two. In terms of Cricketing skills & knowledge, Mathews outclasses Kholi by miles.

  • on July 30, 2014, 2:56 GMT

    Take every great player they all will have one or two areas where they will be uncomfortable and Kohli is no exception to this. He will definitely overcome this weakness and score some valuable runs for India before the end of this Series. I wish him all success!!!

  • Dhanno on July 30, 2014, 2:53 GMT

    "Kohli has scored just 73 over these five innings, and will be under pressure after he came to England as the best batsman in the Indian line-up. ": This is where the article gets it wrong. Kohli may have the tag of best batsmen but there is no pressure on these guys. A poor Rahane might feel some pressure if he doesn't score for 2 Test, but players like Kohli can go on doing what they do and nothing will change. Test series are like mirages, there will be tons of meaningless ODIs and T20 and suddenly Kohli will be back to god status. Secondly his ego may help him get a hundred ( if I am not wrong Dhoni and Kohli both scored some runs in last test of home series after England had beaten IND at home), so there will be tightening of technique a 80 or a 100. But that will be temporary.

    Avg batting line up with players ending up in mid 40 career avg while rest of countries best bats are scoring at 60+ for last few years.

  • Cobra0077 on July 30, 2014, 2:44 GMT

    In professional sports this is nothing new, a good professional may fall victim once or twice & then be able to correct the error he was committing. But, the English bowlers have been doing this to all Indian batsmen & not only Kohli. This is why someone is judged to be great when he can do something great for an extended amount of time & under various different conditions.Playing on flat tracks is totally different than playing a track that plays fair to every participant, by that I mean to batsmen, pace bowlers & spinners.

  • SoyQuearns on July 30, 2014, 1:35 GMT

    CONT'D...

    Murali Vijay is an excellent example of how to combat England's defensive tactics - ignore them. Vijay has locked himself into the side this tour by playing subdued yet bloody-minded cricket, leaving the boring/negative lines and forcing England to rethink (which they are nigh-on incapable of doing with Cook at the helm).

    He's left alone 100s of balls this tour. It goe against Kohli's style, sure, but it dismantles this strategy entirely.

    To the English - enjoy this brief and temporary success over Kohli for it will not last. As your overall performances show, you can't just rely on boredom and grind to maintain any kind of long-term success, be that as a strategy against a player or as a team ethic/culture.

    C'mon India - have to get to lunch and put the pressure on Cook to set up a winning position within reasonable time. It is ENG who are 1-0 down, prey upon that and Cook's horrific captaincy record and prey upon his negative mindset.

  • SoyQuearns on July 30, 2014, 1:32 GMT

    As a t20 poster boi, Kohli will have to dig deep here to overome this slight issue.

    He's my favourite player and, as stated, lacks any technical issues.

    However - he's got to be prepared to make slower, uglier and more subdued runs. England are a boring side at the best of times (read: always, just in varying degrees), so if you give them a sniff that something boring and negative and attrition-esque works they'll leap upon it like sharks to blood in the water.

    This issue will be short-lived though, this kid is pure class and is likely to become one of the first 'greats' of his generation. Remember this - he's still just a kid, and he's proven himself as a classy player in all formats.

    Murali Vijay is an excellent example of how to combat England's tactics - ignore them. Vijay has locked himself into the side this tour by playing subdued yet bloody-minded cricket, leaving the boring/negative lines and forcing England to rethink...(CONT'D)

  • baskar_guha on July 30, 2014, 1:17 GMT

    As Kenny Rogers might have said, know when to leave 'em, know when to slap 'em.

  • on July 30, 2014, 1:15 GMT

    I remember being ridiculed by all VK fans back then when i had posted about this glaring weakness & him not playing backfoot cut shots off fast bowlers

  • on July 30, 2014, 1:11 GMT

    This is what i had commented on last year before SA series. He has a weakness there when pitched outside off & just short of driving length. He never plays horizontal cut shots to fast bowlers, but does cut against spinners who give him more time to play the shot. NZ tried this ploy in the Test & ODI series 2014, but he got away with some ariel shot off the front foot at boundary where there was no catching fielder. A man there with 3 slips & gully & bowlers bowling this channel consistently with an occasional in-dipper, he has nowhere to hide. Maybe if he works on horizontal cut shots (which most great batsmen play) he can still score in this series.

  • on July 30, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    Constant need to feel the bat on the ball is part of the psyche of the Delhi Kharana* of cricket. Most of them are extremely talented, but just can't resist this constant temptation. When they are in form, it brings them bucketful of runs, which further reinforces that temptation. Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Dhawan, and Unmukth Chand are all current exponents of that school. This little weakness is accentuated by the constant need to get runs in the short formats.

    It can be overcome. Vijay, who is not an exponent of the Delhi Kharana had the same weakness. But on this tour, he has eminently proved that he developed the kind of resolve and patience to eschew it. Of course, bowlers who have even more patient than batsmen like Vijay can still try to tempt them. After a long vigil, they may bite the bait. The more they resist, the more they succeed. Dhawan & Kohli can benefit by taking a leaf out of Vijay's book. In this series itself.

    * Traditions set by a chain of Gurus & their disciples

  • RaghuProdhutoori on July 30, 2014, 0:25 GMT

    I agree that he has this weakness of poking the ball which could be easily left alone but i am sure that he will bounce back in the next test for sure that's kohli.... As a fan of kohli I am eagerly waiting for big innings from him

  • on July 30, 2014, 0:21 GMT

    Suddenly Kohli is hitting balls in slips too much in stead his famous cover drive or in leg side, why?

  • on July 30, 2014, 0:16 GMT

    that is one of the reason why its true saying Vijay is better than Kohli when comes to test

  • Y2G_87 on July 30, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    A unique weekness of a batsman of this class. NOt to forget that he was the only batsmen who scored a century against Ind vs Aus series 4 years back.

    Most of the batsmen will have different averages against each team and for this guy average against Eng is on lower side, but not for long time.

    He is young he can adapt easily and there are 5 more innings left for him to perform, he will come back strong.

  • Snambidi on July 29, 2014, 23:42 GMT

    This second Test is progressing towards an exciting finish. India still need 47 runs more to avoid a follow on. Once the follow on is avoided ,the match would not become in the favor of England. It is likely to end on equal terms. Alistair Cook despite getting control did a grave mistake of not keeping an eye on the time& overs running out by declaring as late as the afternoon of second day. Had he declared earlier & put India to bat at least on crossing 500,England could have won this Tesy. Now 2 significant players Djoni& Shami who have proved time &again their capability of scoring to safety,a follow on is not certain. A team like Ustraliaor SA would not insist on follow on even if India gets out without adding more runs on the 4th Day. But about England we can not take it for granted that a Follow on would not be imposed. So the alternative left for India is to avoid follow on at any cost. Kohli is on the move towards disaster. Rahane's shot of getting out is not to be excused.

  • akpy on July 29, 2014, 23:14 GMT

    Kohli is looking good till he gets out, which happens to all batsmen at times and almost everyone has a bogey country where their record is not the greatest (unless you are a sachin whose 46 average in some countries will raise eyebrows but it is still higher than career average of some talented batsmen). Dravid had issues in S.Africa and Australia, except for that one series in 2003 against a weak attack; incidentally sachin went through what kohli is going through in this series except for the last test of that series. So, no big deal and Kohli will soon be amongst runs as there is no doubting his class.

  • KeepitHonest on July 29, 2014, 23:05 GMT

    India's problems are partly due to selection mistakes. Recommended changes to the Indian team: Ind vs. Eng 4th test Jadeja out; Ashwin in Dhawan out; Gambhir in Rohit out; Pankaj in Ishant in

  • vik56in on July 29, 2014, 22:59 GMT

    Kohli has glaring weakness. He doesn't have a sound backfoot game .He also doesn't have horizontal bat shots in his armoury.

  • on July 29, 2014, 22:39 GMT

    I have had mentioned umpteen times on Cricinfo that Kohli is an overrated player and he will be exposed by the English bowlers-he is so vulnerable outside off- IPL proved it, the English season has proved it. Just bowl him short of good length outside off and he will be soon consigned to the ex-players roster. Some few indian scribes , especially Shastri and surprisingly, even Gavaskar have just praised him unduly for last few years. He is an average player and nothing extra ordinary! To all bowlers in the world-just bowl Kohli outside the off- and he will be gone; in swinging conditions,don't worry at all -he just cannot play!However, f you bowl him on middle and leg, you will be sent out of the park. Now the fun has begun- enjoying it thoroughly!At least some good players who have better technique will now get a chance to play- ex Gambhir/Sehwag-any day better than Shikar and Kohli!

  • on July 29, 2014, 22:30 GMT

    Except Dhawan - everyone is doing well in the team at least far better than the side which toured England last time with 5 - 0 whitewash. Best thing is everyone is contributing and no one is dependent on another's performance. Just one advise to the kids - not to play arrogant shots but do aggressive bowling as Ishant did in the last test. Test Matches don't need attacking batsman's attitude, except if the team is in the strong position. Fluent shots on hittable balls will break the opposition's confidence.

  • Hardy1 on July 29, 2014, 22:25 GMT

    "after he came to England as the best batsman in the Indian line-up", everyone keeps saying this but Pujara is a much better Test batsman than Kohli. Both need to come good now though because they're the mainstays of the Indian batting lineup & their failure's putting too much pressure on Murali Vijay (not that he seems to mind) & Rahane, seeing as you can't really bank on Dhoni or Jadeja to make runs. Someone needs to do a Faf Du Plessis now if India are to save this Test...

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:57 GMT

    Great analysis, the gist of it applies to any sport strategy!

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Kohli is too good a batsman to get consistently on such deliveries. He will surely overcome this weakness very soon.

  • snbirdi on July 29, 2014, 21:52 GMT

    This shouldn't worry anyone at all. A player of Kohli's talent and intelligence doesn't stay quiet for too long. As for the so called "experts" and pundits, the same guys telling him to play more horizontally are the ones always commenting on how players need to play more in "The V" to score runs. You keep doing what you're doing Kohli and you'll be back on top in no time.

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    Even the so called "one of the best of modern day Cricket" has a weakness! its one of those bad patches.. how he handles pressure matters

  • prakash_mishra on July 29, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    And Finally his weakness is found. I hope his blind supporters will slowly understand that he is not the greatest batsman at the moment in world cricket...

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:20 GMT

    Kohli is the best batsman in the Indian ground only, in fact all the Indian batsmen are strong on their own soil.

  • InnocentGuy on July 29, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    If this is true, then kudos to England for working out a great strategy against Kohli. That said, this Test is now poised to be a great stage for so many of the young Indian batsmen to become a star player. Almost sure now that England will post around 400 for India to chase at on day 5. You cannot ask for a better stage to save a team and make your team and country proud and in the process make a great name for yourself.

  • linguboy on July 29, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    Let's not over analyse things. He should bring square cut into his game. He doesn't play the cut shot in test matches often before settling in. He pokes at it vertically which lands him in trouble. Play horizontal bat shots as Ian Chappell pointed out and he will eradicate this. And he just failed for 5 innings for God's sake. This is his first dip in form since his career started and eventually it has to happen sometime. Unfortunately it came in an overseas tour where suddenly everyone starts claiming he can't play in swinging conditions. Still 5 innings remains in this series and lets wait and watch. Remember Australia 2012???? he failed for 5 innings and Boom there he was. He scored centuries in each and every country he played except WI and expect one soon enough in this series. 1 century for a batsman of his caliber is not enough but if it will correct his form I will take that. He will be fine. Leave him alone from over analyzing everything. Please publish.

  • mystic.referee on July 29, 2014, 20:43 GMT

    Kohli is in a unique position in world cricket. At 25 he finds himself put on a pedestal by fans, critics and astute observers of the game because of the things he has achieved. But at the same time, one must remember that he is still finding his feet in international cricket. It will still be a long time before we stop judging Indian batsmen in the shadows of their predecessors, but let us remember that all these players are still charting their own careers in young teams.

    As far as a weakness outside the off stump goes, there are way worse things that Kohli can do, and Indian cricket should consider itself lucky that we have gems such as Kohli, Rahane, Pujara and Vijay that are being moulded under pressure.

  • on July 29, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    What a shame for India (more poorer than Eng) again with average team on an average pitch. Poor cricket all over from Indians. No one is standing up for the big score. Trying to avoid follow on is not going to happen. But, still I believe that this match will end up in a draw unless India make a big mistake in 2nd innings.

  • GermanPlayer on July 29, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    In today's game, once your weakness is found out, people are gonna bother you with it. And you'll have to leave the team eventually unless you get rid of the weakness.

    I think Kohli has it in him to improve and get rid of this problem. The only question is, how quickly can he do it?

  • GermanPlayer on July 29, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    In today's game, once your weakness is found out, people are gonna bother you with it. And you'll have to leave the team eventually unless you get rid of the weakness.

    I think Kohli has it in him to improve and get rid of this problem. The only question is, how quickly can he do it?

  • on July 29, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    What a shame for India (more poorer than Eng) again with average team on an average pitch. Poor cricket all over from Indians. No one is standing up for the big score. Trying to avoid follow on is not going to happen. But, still I believe that this match will end up in a draw unless India make a big mistake in 2nd innings.

  • mystic.referee on July 29, 2014, 20:43 GMT

    Kohli is in a unique position in world cricket. At 25 he finds himself put on a pedestal by fans, critics and astute observers of the game because of the things he has achieved. But at the same time, one must remember that he is still finding his feet in international cricket. It will still be a long time before we stop judging Indian batsmen in the shadows of their predecessors, but let us remember that all these players are still charting their own careers in young teams.

    As far as a weakness outside the off stump goes, there are way worse things that Kohli can do, and Indian cricket should consider itself lucky that we have gems such as Kohli, Rahane, Pujara and Vijay that are being moulded under pressure.

  • linguboy on July 29, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    Let's not over analyse things. He should bring square cut into his game. He doesn't play the cut shot in test matches often before settling in. He pokes at it vertically which lands him in trouble. Play horizontal bat shots as Ian Chappell pointed out and he will eradicate this. And he just failed for 5 innings for God's sake. This is his first dip in form since his career started and eventually it has to happen sometime. Unfortunately it came in an overseas tour where suddenly everyone starts claiming he can't play in swinging conditions. Still 5 innings remains in this series and lets wait and watch. Remember Australia 2012???? he failed for 5 innings and Boom there he was. He scored centuries in each and every country he played except WI and expect one soon enough in this series. 1 century for a batsman of his caliber is not enough but if it will correct his form I will take that. He will be fine. Leave him alone from over analyzing everything. Please publish.

  • InnocentGuy on July 29, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    If this is true, then kudos to England for working out a great strategy against Kohli. That said, this Test is now poised to be a great stage for so many of the young Indian batsmen to become a star player. Almost sure now that England will post around 400 for India to chase at on day 5. You cannot ask for a better stage to save a team and make your team and country proud and in the process make a great name for yourself.

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:20 GMT

    Kohli is the best batsman in the Indian ground only, in fact all the Indian batsmen are strong on their own soil.

  • prakash_mishra on July 29, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    And Finally his weakness is found. I hope his blind supporters will slowly understand that he is not the greatest batsman at the moment in world cricket...

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    Even the so called "one of the best of modern day Cricket" has a weakness! its one of those bad patches.. how he handles pressure matters

  • snbirdi on July 29, 2014, 21:52 GMT

    This shouldn't worry anyone at all. A player of Kohli's talent and intelligence doesn't stay quiet for too long. As for the so called "experts" and pundits, the same guys telling him to play more horizontally are the ones always commenting on how players need to play more in "The V" to score runs. You keep doing what you're doing Kohli and you'll be back on top in no time.

  • on July 29, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Kohli is too good a batsman to get consistently on such deliveries. He will surely overcome this weakness very soon.