England v India, 2nd ODI, Cardiff August 27, 2014

Raina, spinners destroy England

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India 304 for 6 (Raina 100, Dhoni 52, Rohit 52, Woakes 4-52) beat England 161 (Jadeja 4-28) by 133 runs
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McGlashan: India are a vibrant one-day team

The Tests have departed into the folder marked "Red Ball Disasters"; India's intention is now to stage a party to help them forget what has gone before. One game into the Royal London ODI series, the outlook has been transformed. They look empowered again.

Suresh Raina, ignored for the Test series, had the undamaged mindset to fill the role of party compere as he played with an exuberance rarely seen from India during their mauling in the Test series, proceeding with a cheerful vigour to make 100 from 75 balls, his first ODI century for four years.

England's response was dire, resulting in their second-heaviest defeat against India, in terms of runs. They can console themselves that people tend to lose interest when games are decided by Duckworth-Lewis calculations, but a passing stranger wandering down the banks of the Taff and armed only with an abacus could have concluded that this was a trouncing.

India have happy memories of Cardiff: they have made 300-plus here three times, the only side to do so, and beat South Africa and Sri Lanka here during their Champions Trophy success last summer. England did not get a look in as Ravindra Jadeja, whose left-arm spin has repeatedly tormented them in the limited-overs game, just needed to turn in a routine shift to yield 4 for 28. At the end, Ravi Shastri, imposed for the series as emergency team director, applauded seriously and shook hands with men in suits.

With ODIs predominating in the months ahead, England have a much-anticipated chance to develop a new brand of one-day cricket. On this evidence, they should call it "Careworn". Faced by a slightly rejigged target of 295 in 47 overs, they survived the new ball convincingly enough - 54 on the board by the 11th over - but then five wickets tumbled for 31 in 12 overs as all their old doubts resurfaced.

Alastair Cook cobbled together some sort of form during the Test series to protect his captaincy but that is a long way removed from discovering the dash needed in the one-day game. He played in Alex Hales' shadow, making 19 in 33 balls, before he fell lbw to Mohammed Shami, manufacturing a leg-side shot. Ian Bell's leave alone saw him bowled second ball later in the over. No immediate retort then from the top-order players who Graeme Swann, a former team-mate has said will leave England's World Cup challenge stillborn.

Batting under the lights looked a more onerous proposition than when Raina sallied forth earlier in the day, particularly when Bhuvneshwar Kumar brought one back to bowl Joe Root, but it was England's deficiencies against spin bowling in mid-innings that were most galling for them as a deteriorating position left them unwilling to hit through the infield.

Hales had unfurled some flowing off-side drives - his trademark - during a debut innings of 40, but a top-edged sweep against Jadeja silenced him. Jadeja's extra bounce also fooled Jos Buttler into poking a furtive catch into the off side. With light drizzle in the air, Eoin Morgan's stretching sweep at R Ashwin lobbed to deep square leg.

For England, the collapse could hardly have been more disheartening. Up on a rain-spattered balcony, the coach Peter Moores checked his notes and Cook checked his fingernails. Neither offered a solution. At least Ben Stokes, whose average of 1.8 in his last 10 England innings was barely credible, could find a score of 23 faintly consoling. And James Tredwell hit his first ODI six - off Jadeja, too. Driftwood in a sea of despond.

There were also troubles for England with the ball. Chris Jordan delivered 12 wides in a return of 0 for 73, five of them in a single Powerplay over, as a lack of rhythm that had been apparent during the Test series turned into something more ghoulish in the 50-over format. Jordan, shaking his head and perspiring heavily, looked perplexed. It was another bad moment on that England balcony as David Saker, the bowling coach, scratched his teeth in concern.

But it was Raina, carefree even by his standards, who smash-and-grabbed the match for India. This was his first ODI hundred for 95 innings, stretching back to a tri-nation tournament in Bangladesh, when he made 106 against Sri Lanka in Dhaka in 2010. England's quartet of right-arm pace bowlers offered an unvaried challenge, although the offspinner Tredwell had a rewarding outing considering his difficult season during which he was loaned out by Kent to Sussex.

He was dismissed the ball after he had reached his century, making room to flay Chris Woakes through the off side but picking out James Anderson on the cover boundary. Woakes, despite conceding 20 from one over as Raina took charge, somehow returned 4 for 52.

Raina, unsurprisingly considering his lack of cricket, had a few streaky moments early on. Early boundaries included an unattractive leg-side swipe at Tredwell and an uncertain edge against Anderson, and he was fortunate to escape Tredwell's lbw appeal on 17 but, as the floodlights cut through a murky South Wales day, he became electrified.

England conceded 62 in the Powerplay between 35 and 40 overs - 42 of them in 16 balls to Raina. He withdrew his front leg to loft Woakes straight for six and then top-edge over the ropes to assert that his luck was in.

For Virat Kohli, though, there was no release from a miserable summer. After an unproductive Test series, in which he made only 134 runs at 13.40, the opportunity beckoned for Kohli to reassert himself in the one-day series, but he fell third ball for nought as he tried to come down the pitch to crash Woakes over the off side and plopped the ball into the hands of Cook at mid-off.

India began nervously. It took only two deliveries for them to be reminded of their deficiencies in the Test series as Anderson curved an outswinger past Rohit Sharma's outside edge. Rohit and Shikhar Dhawan twice survived after running mix-ups; Woakes had Dhawan caught at the wicket. But Rohit found an ally in Ajinkya Rahane in a third-wicket stand of 91 in 16 as England's back-up seamers failed to maintain the pressure on the sort of dibbly-dobbly day that would have made Ravi Bopara, a controversial omission from England's squad, a useful man to have around.

Rahane carelessly allowed himself to be stumped off Tredwell, who then added Rohit to the sort of inside-out swing which had proved his downfall against Moeen Ali at the Ageas Bowl, his sole Test appearance. At 132 for 4 with barely 20 overs left, there was much work to be done and Raina did it. For once, a one-day half-century from MS Dhoni, ended by Woakes' slower ball, was entirely overshadowed.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:53 GMT

    @thozar on (August 30, 2014, 3:21 GMT) The problems are for India - as far as I see it - that it doesn't take too much to get their morale down , hence my comms re their reaction to Jimmy not being banned if that's what got them down. The 2007 test victory in Perth was decent but 2 very different sides and I'd say India were tougher back then.More recent evidence is in 2011/12 tour in Australia. And yes I agree that Kohli has it in him to become a superstar in tests as well as SFs - he was the one ray of light last time you toured Aus. As for CP - I'll let him fight his own battles on here from now on but I've always found his views to be fair and yes he may criticise India but then I've seen him criticise (constructively) every country and probably none more than his own

  • thozar on August 30, 2014, 3:21 GMT

    @JG2704, I have read some of your comments and I think you misunderstood. I already gave credit to some England fans for admitting defeat gracefully. You are one of them. Sorry I should have been explicit. I was only talking about some Oz fans who never admit defeat. I dont know this Chris_P. Every comment of his always criticize Indian cricket. Even now he says Kohli is the most talented batsman we have when the fact is Kohli is the most talented batsman in the world. He is only 25. He will end up with some records which no one can beat. Like Sachin. Just because he is going through a bad patch does not mean it will continue like that. I think he will show his real worth very soon.

    You talk about fighting mentality. We showed plenty of that in the 2007 series against Oz by bouncing back to win in Perth where no other team wins. This series was a combination of out of form batsmen and low morale. You will see a much improved performance in Oz.

  • Chris_P on August 29, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    @anshu.s . I think you may have misunderstood what I stated. It was stated that test cricket is a dying art. I responded saying that was not the case in Australia & gave examples to back that up. Then the response was that is was entirely due to Australia winning. When I again offered examples of that not being the case with examples, I am the one pointed out as not knowing?, I get peeved with ill informed comments written by people who don't have grasp of the game. Having been & lived in India for a short period of time, I well know the passion of the locals ( I was there in 2001!). I really enjoy cricket as a game (all sports for that matter but especially cricket) & appreciate quality play. I think, for example, the scorn poured on Khoili is unjustified as he is, IMHO, the most talented batsman you have, but he appears to be the victim of the SF overload some players are getting hit with.

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:50 GMT

    @Thozar - Re Chris_P - From my years on here I have found him to be fair with his criticisms and doesn't get carried away when Aus are on top and is as critical (if not more so) of his own side when he sees issues as he is with any other side. I'd also say that certain fans from all countries have trouble in conceding defeat. Things like "Having The Rub Of The Green" , "DRS favouring the opposition" , "We would have won if..." you get the idea. I've not read anything like this from this poster Re

    "it is tradition for some people to watch test cricket. does not mean they are interested"

    Ashes tickets don't come cheap. I'm sure the people wouldn't attend just because of tradition

    Please publish

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:49 GMT

    @thozar on (August 29, 2014, 17:04 GMT) You mention the Jimmy Anderson/Jadeja incident and yet - unless you were in the corridor at the time - you know no more than the rest of us. It's the word of some Indian players against the word of some England players and neither party is likely to be impartial. But ok , let's just say for argument's sake that Jimmy was guilty of an unprovoked attack on the squeaky clean Jadeja and got away without a ban etc - well that could also make a team more fiercely determined to conquer the opposition and put it right on the field. If a group of players is demoralised about Jimmy not being banned for an off field issue then it doesn't show a great fighting mentality does it? Re Eng in Australia - it was really poor all round. We can all pick different players in our heads and say they'd have made a difference but the reality is that we were beaten both skillwise and mentally

  • thozar on August 29, 2014, 17:04 GMT

    @JG2704, "You could well be right and bearing in mind the score was 1-1 with all to play for are you happy with your side about that?" look at the circumstances. India were demoralized after the verdict in favor of Anderson in the push-gate episode. And I don't blame them. Wouldn't you be? Let me remind you that Eng slumped to sub-200 scores several times in the last Ashes. If they had one in-form player who could give them a morale boost they may have performed better. Oz would have still won but they would not have thrashed you.

    @Jose Puliampatta, why are you talking about really old records? 1952? How many people remember Truman or Pankaj Roy? India was not the same team like they are now. We are the world champions. Since the last 30 years, how many times have you seen India slide to such a poor score for several innings in a row?

  • bobmartin on August 29, 2014, 9:20 GMT

    It seems the ICC has yet again introduced something which has not been clearly thought through... I refer to the ban on ODI captains for their teams failure to bowl their overs in the allotted time.. Cook is now under threat of suspension if England commit a second offence in the next 12 months... Given that England have a reported 14 further ODIs in the next 12 months... Cook has a 1 in 14 chance of picking up a ban... If something similar were to happen to a team who might have only 8 games in the next 12 months... then the chances are reduced to 1 in 8... It would appear to be a lot fairer if the "probation" period was a number of matches.. rather than months..

  • anshu.s on August 29, 2014, 8:32 GMT

    As per regarding test cricket dying in India it is an exaggeration to say the least, when a major nation like Australia,Eng,SA especially Pakistan arrive there are huge numbers who come to watch test cricket , we Indians are huge TV watchers so if you check the Television ratings of any India test series it will be on par if not more than Eng or Aus.Funny things that some of us who are labelled short form lovers end up watching more test cricket on TV than some purists.Ranji trophy in India two decades back used to attract bumper crowds but that was before the TV boom happened in India, now people view Ranji teams just as mere feeders to Indian national team and nothing more,BTW European football leagues are huge in Metro cities and threatening cricket in general forget tests or t20's.Atleast BCCI are arranging all these 5 match or 4 match test series which is lot better than some other boards,Indian fans and cricketers both want to succeed in tests especially overseas. true fact.

  • anshu.s on August 29, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    @Chris_P, it is great to know that we have a grade cricketer among us in comments section who has rubbed shoulders with past and current Australian players. it is not about knowledge of the game,technical know how, intricacies and subtleties of the game that was in question, what i objected to was the disdain you and some of your fellow Aussie posters have for those who don't support your view of the primacy of test cricket, tone is dismissive and indicating that some of us are unrefined ignorants who fail to grasp the essence of test cricket.

    My point about Shield cricket was that NSW vs Victoria attracts low crowds while recently propped up Sydney Thunder v/s Melbourne Stars attracts as many as 30,000 to 40,000.Australian cricket team is an institution, a national team which unites the whole country unlike AFL and NRL which is club based and region/state specific, so any Australian cricket team whether tests ,ODI,T-20 will always attract huge crowds.contd

  • Fast_Track_Bully on August 29, 2014, 6:47 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4. IF India played in the same level in tests, it would have been 4-0. But there is no place for IFs and BUTs. So, accept the reality.

  • JG2704 on August 30, 2014, 8:53 GMT

    @thozar on (August 30, 2014, 3:21 GMT) The problems are for India - as far as I see it - that it doesn't take too much to get their morale down , hence my comms re their reaction to Jimmy not being banned if that's what got them down. The 2007 test victory in Perth was decent but 2 very different sides and I'd say India were tougher back then.More recent evidence is in 2011/12 tour in Australia. And yes I agree that Kohli has it in him to become a superstar in tests as well as SFs - he was the one ray of light last time you toured Aus. As for CP - I'll let him fight his own battles on here from now on but I've always found his views to be fair and yes he may criticise India but then I've seen him criticise (constructively) every country and probably none more than his own

  • thozar on August 30, 2014, 3:21 GMT

    @JG2704, I have read some of your comments and I think you misunderstood. I already gave credit to some England fans for admitting defeat gracefully. You are one of them. Sorry I should have been explicit. I was only talking about some Oz fans who never admit defeat. I dont know this Chris_P. Every comment of his always criticize Indian cricket. Even now he says Kohli is the most talented batsman we have when the fact is Kohli is the most talented batsman in the world. He is only 25. He will end up with some records which no one can beat. Like Sachin. Just because he is going through a bad patch does not mean it will continue like that. I think he will show his real worth very soon.

    You talk about fighting mentality. We showed plenty of that in the 2007 series against Oz by bouncing back to win in Perth where no other team wins. This series was a combination of out of form batsmen and low morale. You will see a much improved performance in Oz.

  • Chris_P on August 29, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    @anshu.s . I think you may have misunderstood what I stated. It was stated that test cricket is a dying art. I responded saying that was not the case in Australia & gave examples to back that up. Then the response was that is was entirely due to Australia winning. When I again offered examples of that not being the case with examples, I am the one pointed out as not knowing?, I get peeved with ill informed comments written by people who don't have grasp of the game. Having been & lived in India for a short period of time, I well know the passion of the locals ( I was there in 2001!). I really enjoy cricket as a game (all sports for that matter but especially cricket) & appreciate quality play. I think, for example, the scorn poured on Khoili is unjustified as he is, IMHO, the most talented batsman you have, but he appears to be the victim of the SF overload some players are getting hit with.

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:50 GMT

    @Thozar - Re Chris_P - From my years on here I have found him to be fair with his criticisms and doesn't get carried away when Aus are on top and is as critical (if not more so) of his own side when he sees issues as he is with any other side. I'd also say that certain fans from all countries have trouble in conceding defeat. Things like "Having The Rub Of The Green" , "DRS favouring the opposition" , "We would have won if..." you get the idea. I've not read anything like this from this poster Re

    "it is tradition for some people to watch test cricket. does not mean they are interested"

    Ashes tickets don't come cheap. I'm sure the people wouldn't attend just because of tradition

    Please publish

  • JG2704 on August 29, 2014, 20:49 GMT

    @thozar on (August 29, 2014, 17:04 GMT) You mention the Jimmy Anderson/Jadeja incident and yet - unless you were in the corridor at the time - you know no more than the rest of us. It's the word of some Indian players against the word of some England players and neither party is likely to be impartial. But ok , let's just say for argument's sake that Jimmy was guilty of an unprovoked attack on the squeaky clean Jadeja and got away without a ban etc - well that could also make a team more fiercely determined to conquer the opposition and put it right on the field. If a group of players is demoralised about Jimmy not being banned for an off field issue then it doesn't show a great fighting mentality does it? Re Eng in Australia - it was really poor all round. We can all pick different players in our heads and say they'd have made a difference but the reality is that we were beaten both skillwise and mentally

  • thozar on August 29, 2014, 17:04 GMT

    @JG2704, "You could well be right and bearing in mind the score was 1-1 with all to play for are you happy with your side about that?" look at the circumstances. India were demoralized after the verdict in favor of Anderson in the push-gate episode. And I don't blame them. Wouldn't you be? Let me remind you that Eng slumped to sub-200 scores several times in the last Ashes. If they had one in-form player who could give them a morale boost they may have performed better. Oz would have still won but they would not have thrashed you.

    @Jose Puliampatta, why are you talking about really old records? 1952? How many people remember Truman or Pankaj Roy? India was not the same team like they are now. We are the world champions. Since the last 30 years, how many times have you seen India slide to such a poor score for several innings in a row?

  • bobmartin on August 29, 2014, 9:20 GMT

    It seems the ICC has yet again introduced something which has not been clearly thought through... I refer to the ban on ODI captains for their teams failure to bowl their overs in the allotted time.. Cook is now under threat of suspension if England commit a second offence in the next 12 months... Given that England have a reported 14 further ODIs in the next 12 months... Cook has a 1 in 14 chance of picking up a ban... If something similar were to happen to a team who might have only 8 games in the next 12 months... then the chances are reduced to 1 in 8... It would appear to be a lot fairer if the "probation" period was a number of matches.. rather than months..

  • anshu.s on August 29, 2014, 8:32 GMT

    As per regarding test cricket dying in India it is an exaggeration to say the least, when a major nation like Australia,Eng,SA especially Pakistan arrive there are huge numbers who come to watch test cricket , we Indians are huge TV watchers so if you check the Television ratings of any India test series it will be on par if not more than Eng or Aus.Funny things that some of us who are labelled short form lovers end up watching more test cricket on TV than some purists.Ranji trophy in India two decades back used to attract bumper crowds but that was before the TV boom happened in India, now people view Ranji teams just as mere feeders to Indian national team and nothing more,BTW European football leagues are huge in Metro cities and threatening cricket in general forget tests or t20's.Atleast BCCI are arranging all these 5 match or 4 match test series which is lot better than some other boards,Indian fans and cricketers both want to succeed in tests especially overseas. true fact.

  • anshu.s on August 29, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    @Chris_P, it is great to know that we have a grade cricketer among us in comments section who has rubbed shoulders with past and current Australian players. it is not about knowledge of the game,technical know how, intricacies and subtleties of the game that was in question, what i objected to was the disdain you and some of your fellow Aussie posters have for those who don't support your view of the primacy of test cricket, tone is dismissive and indicating that some of us are unrefined ignorants who fail to grasp the essence of test cricket.

    My point about Shield cricket was that NSW vs Victoria attracts low crowds while recently propped up Sydney Thunder v/s Melbourne Stars attracts as many as 30,000 to 40,000.Australian cricket team is an institution, a national team which unites the whole country unlike AFL and NRL which is club based and region/state specific, so any Australian cricket team whether tests ,ODI,T-20 will always attract huge crowds.contd

  • Fast_Track_Bully on August 29, 2014, 6:47 GMT

    @ electric_loco_WAP4. IF India played in the same level in tests, it would have been 4-0. But there is no place for IFs and BUTs. So, accept the reality.

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 22:05 GMT

    @ thozar on (August 28, 2014, 14:42 GMT) You said India would have won the series if Raina (who BTW averages 28 in tests - and probably even less outside SC conditions) had played. Re your own comms

    "India looked like they played without much interest in the last 2 tests"

    You could well be right and bearing in mind the score was 1-1 with all to play for are you happy with your side about that? I certainly would not be

    SF cricket is not and has never been an issue for India. IMO if you win this series 4-0 it doesn't mean that much just like by beating India in the test series doesn't say much about England. Both teams have not addressed their failings - Eng in SFs and India in away test series or even in long test series at home

  • Chris_P on August 28, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    @thozar. same argument can say be said f T20. Most people who go to the BBL go for the night's entertainment, not that many are interested in the result as much as the contest. My response, if you read it was to say that Test cricket is more definitely not a "dying art", certainly not down here, nor many other countries. In India there seems to be a drift to T20 in a huge way. Having attended both Shield & Ranji matches, also gave me another perspective. Shield matches at the SCG get about 1000, a couple of Ranji matches I attended, the grounds were virtually empty, & in large population bases as well. Test cricket may be dying in India, but to say it is elsewhere is an incorrect summation. BTW, Sth Africa also seems to have trouble attracting spectators for tests so not only India has that issue.

  • Chris_P on August 28, 2014, 19:53 GMT

    @anshu.s Listen here my firend, I love my cricket, still play it, AND all 3 formats. Having also played Sydney grade for a number of years with and against former & future test players, I think I classify myself as one who knows just a little about the game. How many turn up to Shield games? I go when I can & it's about 1,000 or so. Your point? Having been to a couple of Ranji games in India, it's about 950 more than games I saw, not bad for a population of 1.2 billion. BTW, Our long viability isn't an issue, with kanga cricket at record participation (also involved with that as well), all those sports you quoted are winter sports where as cricket is the summer sport, & soccer is very much the 4th preferred option of the football codes at senior level. Large crowds turn up at every test venue, it is our national sport, we get record turnouts for the Australian Tennis Open but next to cricket, doesn't rank with us.

  • Chris_P on August 28, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    @JG2704. At least you read what I said, I most certainly prefer tests & FC where your mental strength gets tested much moreso, but get along to both other shorter formats. I even play all 3 formats, 2 day games & 45 over games as an opener, but down the order in T20 (being skipper does have some privileges!), no prize for guessing which I prefer.

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 16:38 GMT

    Another thought for English fans. How many players from the counties that have dominated or been impressive in the white-ball competitions last year and this year are in the England side? No players from Hampshire, Surrey, Glamorgan. 2 players from Lancashire (though neither play much for them) and 2 from Notts (though 1 didn't play and the other didn't play how he plays for them). Also how's may other countries or counties play the England way? Other teams with accumulators up top at least have the ability/willingness to up the tempo, such as Amla, Guptill, Sharma.

  • on August 28, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    A few English fans are suggesting Taylor at No.3. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly: Sarah Taylor at No 3 In England's women's team. Great gal!

  • on August 28, 2014, 16:11 GMT

    @Thozar: You asked: "How many times you have seen India bundled out for under 200 for 5 innings in a row?

    A few times in the distant past.

    You may similarly ask, how many times you have seen the top four Indian batsmen out for so little? That could have been a good question. Let me give an extreme case.

    England. June 1952. Fred Trueman's debut match. Fall of wickets in the Indian Innings:

    P Roy (1-0); DK Gaikwad (2-0); Mantri (3-0); Vijay Manjrekar(4-0)

    Four top wickets gone & NO RUN! Can you beat it? All taken by Trueman. If my old memory is not failing me, he took 8 wickets on debut in that innings, not for much. In fact India were all out for something around 160

    Incidentally, the 5th Indian wicket (the indomitable Polly Umrigar) also fell around 25 or 26. We old timers are used to living with all these Indian disasters quite well. We used to call Pankaj Roy, our best opener! Vijay Manjrekar, our 'best' batsman! Umrigar, India's Gary Sobers! We don't change much! Do we?

  • on August 28, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    Ridiculous selection by England. They have better players not even in the squad.

  • thozar on August 28, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    @Chris_P, like anshu said it is tradition for some people to watch test cricket. does not mean they are interested. Oz fans usually dont show up when their team loses. At least I see some England fans admit they were thrashed. SA fans and New Z fans also admit. It is only the Oz fans who never admit defeat.

    I am very happy that Team India has proved doubters wrong. This victory is as comprehensive as it gets. It does not matter which format it is. A win is a win. I expect India to sweep this one day series. Most of the players seem to have recovered from the test series defeat. Only minor worry is Kohli. But he is too good to fail for long.

  • thozar on August 28, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    @JG2704, Che Pu and Kohli had better averages before test series. But they could not even get their career average in the test series. Shami did not score a FC 50 before but he got one in the first innings in the first test. Likewise Raina also may have low career average in tests. Does not mean he will score only his average in this series. He is in terrific form. He would have strengthened the middle order. India looked like they played without much interest in the last 2 tests. They looked demoralized as most players were out of form. That is why you see that big margin of defeat. An in-form Raina may have changed that. How many times you have seen India bundled out for under 200 for 5 innings in a row?

  • tests_the_best on August 28, 2014, 14:28 GMT

    Can't see why England left Bopara out. I don't know much about his performances since last year's Champions Trophy but he single-handedly thwarted India in the CT final, first with the ball and then when Eng were 40 odd for 4, it was his partnership with Morgan that got Eng close to victory before they panicked in the end.

  • on August 28, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    We'll played India

  • bumbles11 on August 28, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    Cook should not have bitten (again) at Swann. Troubles is EVERYONE....commentatators, fans, pess know Cook, Bell, Ballance and possibly Root should not be playing ODI cricket.

    A team of Hales, Roy, Vince, Buttler,Morgan, Taylor, Bopara, Broad, Finn, Trdders, Gurney would beat current England team and evryone knows it (includng ECB and Moores).

    Hales, Taylor and Roy have ability to play in the Test team.

    Issueisw eed a ood ODI and Tet team..not ack limite overs team with Test playsers who can't play one day cricket effectively.

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    @ anshu.s on (August 28, 2014, 10:18 GMT) So if you're saying that Indian's love all forms of cricket then aren't you conveniently not correcting the fan who was going on about how boring test cricket is...?

    And are you agreeing with the fan who said if Raina had played in the test series India would have turned those massive defeats into wins?

    I don't think Chris_P is saying that he doesn't care at all about other formats - just that he prefers tests.

    You're saying that Indians love all forms of cricket but that the longer form of cricket is dying. Surely if the new home of cricket is loved by the whole country then none of the forms of cricket are dying - no?

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    @JG2704 Taylor for me is the ideal ODI number 3 (can bat through at a quick pace then explode at the end- assuming he can transfer that to international level once confident and had a few games to settle in). He could also be a finisher (he smashed a hundred at the Rose Bowl in 2012 the day KP retired from ODIs).

    Lumb can do the accumulator role. He did it well in the Windies and did something Cook and Bell don't do (score a hundred) and could probably accelerate in the last 15.

    Re Ali I agree his career stats will be misleading and I sometimes ignore them as they don't allow players to have improved. Ali was underbowled in previous white-ball appearances though has improved. Tbf I thought he did pretty well in the Windies in ODIs but in T20Is he was poor with bat and ball (though so was everyone). I suppose my issue with Ali is that while playing tests he improved his bowling remarkably but his batting regressed. I'd rather he work on his test game than risk ruining it in ODIs.

  • testtimez on August 28, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    Good but not good enough. From 85/5 they are letting the tail enders bat and get to 161 then the bowling DEFINITELY needs improvement.

    One more game and then a swap of Dhawan for Samson. Not sure about bowling resources. Mohit looked good though unlucky.

  • brusselslion on August 28, 2014, 12:55 GMT

    I confess that, rather like the England selectors, I had forgotten all about Taylor (sorry James). Anyway, in order to make up for my previous oversight, he's now captain of my England WC XI!! (no need for thanks, James):

    Roy, Hales, Taylor (c), Root, Buttler, Bairstow, Bopara, Ali, Broad, Anderson, Finn

    Maybe bit harsh to leave out Tredwell. If Broad's not fit, then one of Bresnan, Gurney, Meaker, Woakes, Jordan.

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK - I've posted a load of comms this morning and not one has been published. I can see Mr Cook laughing at such a poor strike rate. It can be a difficult one getting the balance right but right now I'd probably go for 3 full time pace bowlers - from Gurney,Broad,Anderson,Finn,Jordan (although the latter not on current form) and maybe even the other Notts guy (forget his name). The full time spinner - has to be Tredwell and then Ali and Bopara (maybe Patel if you prefer it to Ali)

    So there's 5 other batsmen (maybe Root,Buttler,Morgan plus 2 openers , 2 batsmen (+Root) who can bowl 10+ overs between them and 4 bowlers. It also ensures we have a quality bat at 7 whether it be Bopara,Patel or Ali Understand re having 4 frontline pacemen but whoever the 4th or even 3rd paceman is - would you trust them to bowl 10 overs more than a combo of Bopara,Ali or Patel,Root? If we had 4 reliable ODI bowlers (not inc Tredwell) I'd go that way but I'm not sure we do

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    @Rajesh.Kumar on (August 28, 2014, 3:57 GMT) At least you're honest there. Rather than try and improve and correct deficiencies just do away with the format altogether. Seems to lack passion/fight/drive/character but I like the honesty

    @YorkshirePudding on (August 28, 2014, 6:33 GMT) Finn - maybe , Gurney - Yes . For me Ballance - no. All Ballance has done is clogged up the RR in his time for England in ODIs. Who does he play instead of?

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    @CodandChips ctd - I'm not so sure why Root needs to be higher than 4. He bats lower than 4 in tests but you could have a side something like

    Bell,Hales,Root,Buttler,Morgan,Ali,Bopara,Broad or Jordan , Tredwell,Gurney,Jimmy.

    I know you like Taylor but where does he fit into the side?

    Lumb,Vince and Roy are other guys you could put up there if you wanted to be a little more ambitious up top.

    I still think Eng have picked Hales with an eye on the test team more than for the right reasons

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    @CodandChips - The one thing I will actually disagree with you on is Moeen Ali. I saw him a year or so ago in a tv game vs Somerset and his batting was exceptional. His List A stats need improvement - they seem better than Stokes in batting but worse re bowling and alot better that Woakes re batting and slightly worse re bowling. I'm also wondering if his stats could have improved over the years? His List A debut was in 2006 - over 8 years ago. And could he also be improved as a bowler just from this summer? Obviously I've been sceptical about how India may have flattered him in the test series but there is a chance he could actually have improved as a bowler? He'd also be going in with more confidence (bowlingwise) too. Also his ODI stats aren't at all bad. Right now I'd prefer him to Stokes,Woakes and Jordan in the ODI side batting at 7. Also look at his ODI stats (albeit just from 3 games AND LITTLE BOWLING) Batting 36.33 at 81.34 , bowling 13.66 ER 4.10

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    @thozar on (August 27, 2014, 23:50 GMT) You're unbelievable. The guy has a test average of 28 for a reason. His 1st class average is 43 and you seriously think he'd change defeats by margins of 266 runs (and 6 wkts) , an inns and 54 runs and an inns and 244 runs into victories?

  • JG2704 on August 28, 2014, 12:30 GMT

    @neil99 on (August 27, 2014, 21:33 GMT) Why would you even consider thinking about dropping Tredwell? He has been the one player who can regularly be relied upon to bowl 10 overs and keep a lid on the oppositions RR?

    Please name me a spinner who would do a better job

    @Rajesh_india_1990 on (August 27, 2014, 21:57 GMT) I'm pretty sure I remember you coming up with this sort of jargon re the test series. You have a good ODI side and will be up there as favourites alongside teams like Aus and SL and may well win the tournament but beating England in this format is like me saying we (Eng) are going back to number one in the test rankings after beating one of the worst travelling test sides around

  • anshu.s on August 28, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    contd.... @Chris_P : you should worry about long term viability of cricket in Australia,already NRL and AFL is more popular than cricket and football or soccer as you Aussies call it is gaining huge strides .@Chris_P , it is time you learn from English posters on Cricinfo they are as much a big test lovers as you are but they equally want to see there side excel at shorter formats just like we Indian fans want our team to succeed at Test level especially overseas.

    I know it is just one match and not the entire series but it is amusing to see that some of my fellow Indian fans who after test series were busy bashing IPL ,commitment of Indian players etc have vanished for the time being,they has also dissaeared after Lord's win during test series....guess some people only know how to criticise ...

  • itsthewayuplay on August 28, 2014, 12:04 GMT

    Excellent innings from Raina in the conditions and circumstances of the match and good support from Rahane, Sharma and Dhoni. Dhawan and Kohli in this kind of form is only creating pressure on the others and England know they've got 2 early wickets. India has to consider giving opportunities to other batsmen. A few of the England's batsmen showd they can hit the ball cleanly over the top but unsurprisingly scoreboard pressure got to them. It'll be interesting to see how India defend a smaller total and would expect better bowling from England in the remaining games.

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK Only fools think that Stokes and Woakes are better white-ball allrounders than Bopara. Bopara is a seriously improved cricketer with bat and ball. Ok he had one bad series but Alistair Cook has had a bad year in ODIs. Bopara and Tredwell were the only respectable bowlers in white-ball cricket over the winter. Bopara also had a phenomenal T20 Blast this year with the bat.

    But people seem to think that Ben Stokes will be the saviour of English cricket and the new Sobers. While I think he could be the next Flintoff in a few years, and I think he was dropped unfairly from the test side, his white-ball career for England has been terrible. I think also last year before he was selected for England he described his own List A game as terrible or something along that line.

    England's does need to improve its bowling. Too many bits and pieces allrounders. Pick genuine bowlers. Since our batting can't score 300 our bowling must be able to defend it.

  • amuni12 on August 28, 2014, 11:55 GMT

    India is one of the best in one day format. I think England was too confident after winning the test series.

  • on August 28, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    kick out cook from odi squad,also promote butler as opener,bring moen ali & balance dropped woakes & stokes

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 28, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    @JG2704 (post on August 27, 2014, 20:35 GMT): I'm inclined to agree as well. I like Tredwell & Bopara in ODI's and don't fully understand the hatred from others towards them as both frequently have bowling economies less than 5 (even down in Australia) and that's fantastic in the modern era. My worry with bits + pieces players like Stokes, Woakes, Jordan, Bresnan (although I still like him for tests) is that they'll have one good game per series and then little of note thereafter. I agree with CodandChips re. Hales: yes it was only his first game, but I pray it was just nerves that made him look a little mechanical out there and not that he's been ordered/advised to hold back/modify his game. On paper the batting line-up has potential if the guys play their natural ODI games, but patience is wearing thin with the likes of Cook and Bell. Bowling is my favourite in all cricket, & as England has a drought of genuine all-rounders I'd rather they dent the batting to strengthen the bowling.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on August 28, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    After dominating Ind till just a week or so back looked as if Eng were returning the favors.Big as the margin of defeat shows,don't think there's a lot seperating these 2 mid table teams.If Eng play anywhere as level we saw in tests,back Eng to W it 3-1.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on August 28, 2014, 11:03 GMT

    It is time to give Kohli a break. He need a break from cricket to be fresh and be back in Australian tour. Only kids can write-off him based of loss of form. Form is temporary, but class is permanent.

  • fguy on August 28, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    wow, 1 win after 2 bad tours, that too against a ordinary odi team & ppl already talking up the team.

    remember this was a team that couldnt win a single game vs NZ/SA so while it was a much needed win lets keep our feet on the ground. 1 hundred from Raina and people will want him back in test matches. its fans like these that bcci loves. they know that a win here & there & ppl will forget the pathetic performances that came before. its why nothing was changed after 0-8 which led ultimately to losing 2 tests in effectively 5 days which can therefore lead to losing in Aus too if we dont learn from previous mistakes. to quote dhoni "look at the process, not the results"

  • subratachakrabarty on August 28, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    I believe it is too early to predict the series as England were vulnerable at the start of the test series as well. India won lords, which happened to be the 2nd test of the series and lost three tests on a row. Evidently, Cardiff is the second ODI and we won convincingly as if we never lost any given day in England. Now I am not a superstitious; however if I am to believe numbers, probably its a sign that India will loose the other three ODIs in a row. No doubt, England made some strategic mistakes; but it seems to me that predicting the series based on one performance is little absurd. I believe that the series is much alive and I fear that England will bounce back hard. Very hard indeed.

  • fguy on August 28, 2014, 10:38 GMT

    wow, 1 win after 2 bad tours, that too against a ordinary odi team & ppl already talking of how critics/haters have been shut up or that we have a team ready to win the WC.

    remember this was a team that couldnt win a single game vs NZ/SA so while it was a much needed win lets keep our feet on the ground. 1 hundred from Raina and people will want him back in test matches. its fans like these that bcci loves. they know that a win here & there & ppl will forget the pathetic performances that came before. its why nothing was changed after 0-8 which led ultimately to losing 2 tests in effectively 5 days which can therefore lead to losing in Aus too if we dont learn from previous mistakes. to quote dhoni "look at the process, not the results"

  • rgramachandran on August 28, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    This win goes in same way of what Test results come up. First one drawn / washed out second one - Indians won admirabaly

    what about 3rd onwards?

  • fguy on August 28, 2014, 10:32 GMT

    virat not such a worry for me. he's had a very good 3-4 years. he's obviously out of form from ipl onwards. law of averages has finally caught up. glad it did now though, better now than during the WC. he can remain out of form as long as he gets it back come Jan '15. dhawan though is a worry (& pujara in tests) primarily coz its a technique issue than a form issue.

  • KumarSubramanyan on August 28, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    England I think shot themselves in the foot...By picking Stokes and Jordan and dropping Ballance and Moin Ali. Nevertheless, a good win for India..Time to drop Shikar and try out Rahane as the opener and get Sanju Samson in...Worthwhile resting Bhuvi and getting Karn Sharma in...

  • on August 28, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    Where are all of you who were criticising Rohit and Raina?Both r must in both ODI and test matches.Even to do better India shoukd remove Dhawan and get Sanju in.Sanju can play aggressively and this will give Rohit some time to settle in.we all know what Rohit can do in the later part of the innings.Go india Go!

  • anshu.s on August 28, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    @Chris_P : i never fail to to get amused by the condescending nature of your statements like "sunshine ...go and learn about cricket etc.... let me inform you we Indians love all formats of the game and unlike you folks we don't beat up ourselves about what is real cricket or what is make believe cricket, if 50 overs and T-20 according to you is not real then silly kick and rush affairs like Rugby league and Aussie Rules with no iota of skills involved is not real Football either

    @ Chris _P :Just like huge crowds turn up to watch Wimbledon every year does not mean Tennis is a popular sports in England, going to Wimbledon is a tradition for them similarly attending Boxing day Test match at MCG or new year's test at Sydney is a tradition for Aussies,Aus national cricket team whether it is test,ODI or a T-20 side all get full houses anyways...how many people turn up to watch NSW v/s Victoria Sheffield match ?? not more than 100 i guess. contd

  • kc69 on August 28, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Since England lost the first ODI that is why ODI format is boring.People called the test format as boring after the lords test was won by India.Anyways if India loses the second ODI then I guess we will find a change in comments.Well in my opinion limited over cricket is always unpredictable so lets wait and watch till the series gets over.

  • JUST2GOOD on August 28, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    A pathetic effort by England. Cook batted the way he knows and it was strange to see the likes of Hales, Butler and Morgan also bat in the Cook fashion. England were chasing at 6.25 per over and so few people hat to score @strike rate of 100 but no one even touched 70 among the top order. Mediocre team in ODIs is this england team and till the selectors accept, it gonna continue the same way.

  • on August 28, 2014, 10:13 GMT

    @CRICKET_TRANCE we atleast won 2 worldcups what about u ?? and more over we r worldchampions

  • opto_pus on August 28, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    England are as bad at one day cricket team, as India are at test match cricket, I think this will be an easy 4-0 sweep for India. Being World Champions and ICC trophy holders their the best one day side in the World. England are very poor with players like Cook and Bell whom have never been one day players and are nothing more then wait and watch the ball go by the stumps mediocre merchants with no flair or talent to score quick runs.

  • YorkshirePudding on August 28, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    @Rahul Jain, probably right about the current series, but its difficult to judge how good they are as England was so bad, just like India in the test series.

  • brusselslion on August 28, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    @Analytical_Sathya: "The fact is had England batted first yesterday, result would've been different." Indeed. My money would have been on India winning by 8 or 9 wickets instead of 133 runs!

  • AndrewsPraveen on August 28, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    this is the same old english ODI siede they may be better in test but india are far more better in ODI's but nothing taken England will retaliate in the next game by bringing in Finn who has good record against INDIA. there was turn but not the turn that you expect in india that shows English batsman's weakness this is where KP was really good in using his feet we hardly saw that in the second ODI but i am sure england will come back with a fight a INDIA in response do the same damage in all the rest ODI's GAME ON from here

  • on August 28, 2014, 5:09 GMT

    Interesting captains from this tour.one captain not good at test and other one not quick at ODI which is required at the opening slot. But both are not resigning from their weak format nor do their board not doing enough on their deficiency. But both are fighting it out their. Dont know which one survive longer

  • tambolisamir on August 28, 2014, 5:07 GMT

    Its good effort from Team but they need to keep momentum going, Hope test series story will not get repeated as we lost series even after leading in series

  • anver777 on August 28, 2014, 4:54 GMT

    Virat is continuing his horrible form in UK........ though he got out for zero last night, I have a strong feeling that talented VK will come back very strongly in the next outing !!! Wishing him a match winning knock in 3rd ODI !!!!

  • vipravara on August 28, 2014, 4:39 GMT

    This win in 2nd ODI is more than the evidence required that the current crop of Indian cricketers, barring a couple of players, are ONLY GOOD ENOUGH to play ODIs or T20s but NOT TEST CRICKET. The batsmen with the close-catching positions in place and ball swinging a bit just can't stay there for sometime to grind it out. Bowlers can't enforce an error from the reasonable batsmen of opposition, leave alone the appalling close-catching ability that was witnessed in the recent series. High time to develop a separate TEST team fro Indian cricket. Please don't attempt the cardinal mistake of transferring this ODI success to test cricket credentials, as this has become the practice for selection of test cricketers- A cricket lover from India.

  • JustIPL on August 28, 2014, 4:38 GMT

    India batting struggled in the beginning of their batting and later on picked while england batting was quiet okay initially but slipped in later part of innings.

  • JustIPL on August 28, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    England paid heavily for playing just two full bowlers. They need at least one more full bowler may be in place of Jordon or stokes. Jordon has fared better than stokes and with control can turn out much better bowler and may even cause england win games in this series. Woakes matched anderson and batted quiet okay. Morgan may also be dropped as he is clearly out of sorts.

  • on August 28, 2014, 4:27 GMT

    @Albert_cambell-I think your knowledge of cricket is quite weak..You will eat your words mind you..India will thrash england 4-0 and will be a formidable team in 2015 WC.

  • anver777 on August 28, 2014, 4:23 GMT

    It was no wonder MOM Raina's night, he played a breathtaking knock that lifted the spirit of the Indian team .... after a poor test series, Ind's fielding was exceptional with some good catches taken in the deep !!!! This huge win is a good booster for Dhoni & co in coming matches !!!!

  • leleraja on August 28, 2014, 4:16 GMT

    What a day for CSK!! CSK is becoming a very very strong "one day" team with top performances from Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin & Mohit and not to forget the lovely 100 from Faff!! Way to go CSK!!

  • on August 28, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    virat kholi shoud drop out him self......let him ply enji trophy and get some confident back

  • on August 28, 2014, 4:09 GMT

    woooow what a wonderful performance by indians.. specialy raina's perfomances.. although im a srilankan i realy like this guy raina.. becoz he is humble and smiling character unlike some young indian players or i could say player.. every one knows who is the one i pointed out.. glad to see another subcontinent side doing well in odi's in england.. keep it up indian boys.. well done.. love from srilanka.. cheers...

  • Sniper on August 28, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Team India seems to be lucky in the second match of the series. Like the victory at Lords they won easily at Cardiff. However, rest assured England will win the series 3-1 as they did the Test series. As long as Dhawan and Kohli fail to score and Rahane and Rohit SHARMA throw away their wickets after being well set, India can not expect Raina to save them every time. Of course Dhoni will stall the defeat but nothing more. England were unlucky that the wicket helped the spinners. The curators in the next 3 matches will take care of that. Jordan should be replaced aand Hales advised to be more careful and not rush to score at run a all rate. All in all England can hope to win the World Cup at last and disprove the words of Graeme Swann.

  • cricpanther on August 28, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Balastic Brutal Blast from Raina!! What a knock, entire England is shaking once raina strokes to the sky!!! Also big thanks to Raina's friend, Rock Star Jadeja is back with 4 bang bang!!! I am sure that will surely shut the bad mouth of VVS Laxman telling him "not spinning the ball and one dimensional!!" and entire debate on Jadeja will mostly shut down. And more likely search for new debate is going on!!!!

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 28, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    @gladly: I have no problems in admitting that our team India is very weak in test cricket when played outside SC. That is kinda obvious isn't it? Sort of goes without saying... But then what do we do with it? Do you go and pay money to watch test cricket in India for 5 days? If yes, congratulations, if no, then why not? Basically test cricket is dead in India, and the earlier BCCI withdraws from the test cricket, the better it will be for the game in India. Otherwise, our players will simply go through the motions, and ensure that we lose inside of 3 days like it happened in England. Instead of that, we should just send uncapped players for test matches so that they get international exposure and perhaps become better limited over players. Yesterday our spinners spun even the wet ball, and medium pacers swung and seamed the ball like anything. Where was all this enthusiasm during the test matches? These are the same set of players, more or less, who played in tests.

  • Albert_cambell on August 28, 2014, 3:50 GMT

    After a long time India had a good time on the field. But saying thing like India won because they are world champions is just foolishness. This Indian team is the worst World cup title holder I have ever seen( Their overseas performance proves that). India wont stand a chance in Aus next year. One of Aus,SA,Pak, SL, NZ will lift the title next year.

  • on August 28, 2014, 3:43 GMT

    give sanju and rayudu a chance , drop kohli and dhawan

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 28, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    What a convincing win for India!!What a horrible performance by England!!I was totally wrong about the pitch.I thought 330 is the par score.But there is something in the pitch which the England bowlers didn't capitalize on.

    Wonderful batting by Raina and Dhoni.Two days ago I said that Raina has to come to the crease before 25 overs.That's exactly happened today.He is always a dangerous batsman.I even won't mind if be bats at No.3 and Kohli at No.4.Still India need some improvements.Kohli and Dhawan has to score and Rohit has to score at brisk rate.

    England fast bowlers were woeful and I was surprised to see Jordan and Stokes in the team.England better pick some genuine quick bowlers rather than bowling all-rounders.

  • Karthik_Jay_Cricket on August 28, 2014, 3:24 GMT

    India has to step up the opening pair, need one aggressive , Dhawan has no quality to play like Sehwag. Need to find one quickly beofre world cup. Currently all teams has one of this character except India. If Kohli start to perform then Team India will be of more balanced team.

  • himanshu.team on August 28, 2014, 3:22 GMT

    In the preview for the first washed out ODI, the article was all about India's troubles. I pointed out then that the author has conveniently ignored England bowling woes. It was clear that in overcast murky conditions, no bowler could support Anderson. He can only bowl a maximum of ten overs in a match. There are no proper back up bowlers in England. Even when Broad is back, he is not someone who could contain batsmen. Even Jimmy will be less than half as good when the conditions don't suit him like here. Indian bowlers on the other hand are smart. They have got the resources to make use of any condition, swinging, seaming, spinning of downright flat tracks. even in flat tracks they are prepared to concede 300 plus but are aware that if they just concede about 300 the batters would get them through. I don't see England bouncing back in this series like they did in tests. They have a lot of work to do before the WC 2015

  • on August 28, 2014, 3:19 GMT

    Inspite of having the home team advantage england played so pathetically. I was hoping at least the rain could save them before the D/L kicks in but that did not happen too. Jordand does not deserve another chance because he is toooo ordinary. England did not even field well yesterday, they could not even properly stop the balls coming towards them, there were so many misfieldings. I never have seen in many years a top test cricket playing nation playing such ordinary ODI match. Losing is one thing but playing so pathetically is another thing. India playing abroad, 2 wickets down for a low score, had lost 3 tests consecutively, lost the toss, there were personal issues related to captain/BCCI/coach/director appointment etc and still the england bowlers were not able to restrict india to around 250 or something is not acceptable. Poor umpiring too costed england, while raina was out, cook was not out. And jordan missed easy run out of dhoni when india was still far away from 304.

  • on August 28, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    what a brillnat Innings from raina ..s Dhoni's score in last 16 ODI's52,47,79*,50,56,40,65,19,51*,58*,62,38*,139*,42,34,56 !!Total 878 Run from 16 inngswith an avg of 87.80 including 10 fifties and 1century !! instead of dhawan give chance to samson to open

  • on August 28, 2014, 2:58 GMT

    Its a pity that India has started to steer back in eyes after dismal petformance in test series. India cannot win outside sub continent and thats the actual reality. This win will not impress me.

  • yogicoolboy on August 28, 2014, 2:52 GMT

    Well done raina and team India. It was indeed a good performance.Good luck msd and team India in the remaining matches. They should go for the jugular now

  • gladly on August 28, 2014, 2:50 GMT

    I saw indians haters comment.The fact is some mediocre people does not understand that india are really far bad in test performance.We have no fighting spirit in test matches as players only thinks of odi and t20 performance which is ridiculous.Even lost to england at home 2-1.Now haters can undertand we are weak in test format.

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    @JG2704 I can see the idea that England use ODIs as a test training ground. Hales didst play like Hales. If you select a player let him do what he does well.

    The side is packed with red-ball players who have ordinary or poor records in white-ball cricket at both county and international level like Woakes, Stokes, Ali. I just wonder why? Perhaps your theory is true.

    My theory is that England pick they're players before they pick the side. What I mean by this is that they have their favourites and then try to fit them in and build a team around them. Hence Root at 4 despite him being more naturally suited higher up. Hence why all the test specialists. Hence why no Taylor, Bopara, Gurney: because there's no space.

  • SUNDHUR on August 28, 2014, 2:15 GMT

    The Superkings of India have done it again! Way to go... Great display by the dependable, stylish and aggressive Raina. He has the charater of Souvrav and style and aggression of Yuvi. It is a question of time for Kohli to swing back. Let us congratulate and support team India!

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 28, 2014, 2:13 GMT

    Time for England and their fans to wake up. Test cricket is well and good but the fact remains the world cup is only played in limited overs cricket. Winning the world cup is the pinnacle of every nation. Time for English cricket to start loving the true competitive formats of the sport instead of 5 day grandpa cricket. I am not saying test cricket should be ignored, after all it is England's beloved format. But limited overs cricket is the heartbeat of cricket commerce and revenue generation. India and Indians have learned this a long time back. Expect similar performances by India in the remaining matches as well. Well done India !

  • jimmyvida on August 28, 2014, 2:11 GMT

    OK, so India won the second match. India also won the second test. I don't think the English side should roll over and play dead as yet. India is just the kind of team they would want to play at this time as good prep for the world cup. The same goes for India. This English team is very good. But, it may be a good time to tinker.

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 2:10 GMT

    (continued)

    People often forget the bowlers when criticising the ODI team. But you need bowlers to take wickets and keep down the run rate.

    Only a fool would believe that Woakes and Stokes are better allrounders in white-ball cricket than Bopara. Yes Woakes appears to have improved but I'd still prefer Bopara. And neither are better bowlers than Finn or Gurney.

    I like Jordan but realise he is hit and miss. That's why in my side I had six front-line bowlers.

    Too many test specialists. Leaving out Gurney is silly. Trying to make the test team fit into the ODI side is silly. But England have gone with the red-ball specialists like Woakes, Stokes, Ali.

    At least if we lose the selectors might see sense.

    I'm still pretty content with my 15 man squad:

    1.Hales 2.Lumb/Bell 3.Taylor/Root 4.Morgan (C) 5.Buttler 6.Bopara 7.Jordan 8.Broad 9.Tredwell (reserve Briggs) 10.Gurney 11.Anderson/Finn

  • CodandChips on August 28, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    First and foremost obviously India played well and showed that they deserve to be considered one of the best ODI sides.

    England were dire. Ok it's just one game. But it was poor. Where was the stability from Cook and Bell? Cook clearly crossed the line between stability and stagnating the runrate. Once again Cook and Bell fail to bat 30 overs. Once again Cook and Bell fail to score a hundred. I'm sure they'll prove me wrong as they are class players bur do they deserve their places?

    Also is Hales meant to play like he did? He doesn't play like this for Notts. Pick Hales to play like Hales not like the misguided England tactics. Though hopefully with Hales in the side we won't need our top order to fail in order to score 300.

    Obviously there shouldn't be too many aggressive batsmen. ODIs are not elongated T20Is. A team of just hitters is probably more likely to collapse than this current lineup. But at the same time you need some positive intent at the top.

    (continued)

  • Chris_P on August 28, 2014, 1:58 GMT

    @thozar You make this so easy. When England won in 2011, 83,000 turned up to watch England win. How's that, sunshine? About 80,000 more than they get at Indian test matches. I was at the SCG that series and they had full capacity the first 3 days, over 40,000 , England won there as well. WHy is that? Because theu appreciate TEST cricket, the real stuff. Please.. I have asked you to study the game & come back to comment & you still haven't? Suresh Raina inclusion would have given India the series? You perhaps have forgotten his little issue he has with short pitched bowling?

  • on August 28, 2014, 1:48 GMT

    Suresh raina came in right time to smash indian batting line...he is a classic batsman.

  • landl47 on August 28, 2014, 1:41 GMT

    A day of almost unrelieved gloom in and for England. Woakes bowled a good opening spell, Tredwell bowled well and Hales had a reasonable debut, but that was about it. The players picked for their test prowess did badly, but so did those who came into the side as ODI specialists. Poor Jordan had a day so bad I was embarrassed for him.

    India looked to be in trouble when they lost two wickets cheaply and again when the 3rd and 4th wickets went down, but India is never beaten in the short-format game while MSD is still around and Raina played an excellent innings while Dhoni stuck with him.

    If England can't play better than this at home, then their chances in Australia are about on a level with those of an ice cream at a boy scout jamboree.

  • on August 28, 2014, 1:20 GMT

    some of the views lopsided. good win by Indians. but then they were supposed to. only wish they fire on all cylinders and rout the Pommies in this format. Raina and the bowlers did well as also the fielders. Dhoni clinical as usual.

  • on August 28, 2014, 1:17 GMT

    india should bring sanju samson in place of dhawan and rahane should open the innings.

  • on August 28, 2014, 1:16 GMT

    Well done to India after a horrific month or so. But the truth is England are a poor one day side, winning against England in ODI cricket doesn't measure up to much. Even a few former English cricketers this week said the the current English ODI team are as hopeless as they come and wouldn't have a chance at the 2015 WC. Any way good luck to both teams.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 28, 2014, 1:10 GMT

    It clearly shows that not just the common public, our cricketers also hate test cricket, even though they keep repeating the mantra 'test cricket is the real cricket'. But they say that, because they really have no choice. If they say anything else, then BCCI and the media become angry with them. The fact that these players (Raina, Mohit etc. excluded because they were not part of the test team) all ensured that India lost all the test matches inside of the 3 days. That means they were simply not interested in playing them, and were happy that the torture was over quickly, rather than slowly. But, look at their enthusiasm levels for the ODIs. The same set of players are now oozing with energy. Can BCCI opt out of test matches please? Or perhaps, we should send our best set of uncapped players (like Pankaj Singh) from the Ranji Trophy for test matches.

  • on August 28, 2014, 1:08 GMT

    India earnestly trying to redeem some honour....keep up the tempo and cheers for the turn around.....you still have a point. ...try hard to prove......suresh. Raina is certainly a breath of fresh air....

  • Test_Match_Fan on August 28, 2014, 0:38 GMT

    Yawn...cricket was over when the test series ended.

  • on August 28, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    wonderful play. give dhawan and kholi only one more chance. if they fail they should be shown the door for better youngsters,

  • on August 28, 2014, 0:17 GMT

    Dhawan & Kohli:

    Constant need to feel the bat on the ball is part of the psyche of the Delhi Kharana (school of thought, passed down through generations) of cricket. Most of them are very talented, but just can't resist this little temptation. When they are in form, of course, it brings them bucketful of runs, which further reinforce that temptation. Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Dhawan, and the one knocking at the door Unmukth Chand are all exponents of that school. This little weakness is accentuated by the constant need to get runs in the short format.

    In the remaining three ODI's can't we try some other talents? Kohli can rest now; but is talented enough to bounce back, in time. Dhawan is incorrigible. His range of shots are limited. Let Rahane open with Rohit. The Mumbai Kharana has better patience for opening. They, by and large, follow Sunny's footsteps.

    In Kohli's place, we may try out either Rayudu (with some experience) or Sanu Damson (more talented). Let's have more options.

  • on August 28, 2014, 0:08 GMT

    Why good performer Ali left out?

  • on August 27, 2014, 23:54 GMT

    where is Gary balance and mooen Ali???? . raina played n excellent knock. . .come on India...... show what you are 4-0 awaiting

  • CRICKET_TRANCE on August 27, 2014, 23:53 GMT

    Just one win and most Indian fans comment as they won the upcoming world cup...

  • thozar on August 27, 2014, 23:50 GMT

    If Suresh Raina was included in the test squad also, we would have won the test series also. Raina is in good form. Why they did not give him a chance in the test series? They got him in 2011 when he was out of form. But he played better in the one dayers that followed. He should have always been in the test team also.

  • dunger.bob on August 27, 2014, 23:50 GMT

    Well, that was a flogging. Congrats to India, you've certainly breathed some life back into this tour. 100 off 75 is a tremendous knock. Wish I'd been able to see some of it.

    England should learn something from this as well, I'm just not sure what the lesson is other than they have to improve in all areas.

  • jmcilhinney on August 27, 2014, 23:30 GMT

    England got a bit of swing early but not much off the pitch. India got significantly more seam movement and that was a significant factor. I suspect that the rain may have had a hand in that but Mohit Sharma in particular bowled really well to take advantage of it. Mohit moved several deliveries away past Cook's outside edge and that was part of the reason that he moved so far across when he was dismissed. He was a little unlucky but it was close enough that it was hardly a howler. The ball that got Root was a beauty too. You could say that he shouldn't have left a gap between bat and pad but, if he hadn't, he'd probably have been out LBW. I went to bed when Buttler was out (it was 2 AM here in Australia) but it looks like it was more of the same thereafter.

  • jmcilhinney on August 27, 2014, 23:26 GMT

    Not too much here for England fans to get excited over. It's one game and I'm sure they'll have better days than this but England has always been too susceptible to disintegrating this way. They had a little bit of bad luck this game but these things happen. Raina had a let-off and probably would have scored runs against better bowling than he faced today but that doesn't change the fact that some of the bowling he faced wasn't great. Woakes was pretty good except for that one very expensive over but Jordan in particular is a real worry. He's struggled for control this whole summer so it's not a new thing. The commentators were talking about his grip causing him to push one down the leg side occasionally but he was bowling leg-side wides to lefties as well. If England believe he can perform in the WC then I think they have to keep playing him to try to bowl him into form but that may put pressure on everyone else for a while and keep someone like Finn on the bench.

  • thozar on August 27, 2014, 23:24 GMT

    @Chris_P, oh 91k people turned up at the MCG, is it? Who were they playing? England. Who was winning? Oz had already won the series in the previous test match in Perth. They just came because they knew Oz would win again. Check how many people turned up in any CG in Oz when Oz were losing, hahaha.

  • paapam on August 27, 2014, 23:04 GMT

    England has a potentially strong one-day side. Bopara and Moeen Ali need to get in at the expense of Cook and a seamer. Finn too needs a look in. This showing may appear to prove Swann's verdict but it is not so. Ali could easily open. The scars of the Australian tour are all too visible in the English selection policy.

  • Patchmaster on August 27, 2014, 22:40 GMT

    Bell and Cook out. Ballance and Roy in. Cook is too slow and let India have FAR too many easy singles through the middle stages, his captaincy is bereft of ideas to back up his bowlers.

  • Rahulbose on August 27, 2014, 22:34 GMT

    One side had T20 experts playing test cricket. Another side now has test specialist playing ODIs. We live in strange times.

  • MaksNZ on August 27, 2014, 22:24 GMT

    100 from 75, well played by Raina. He is an all time One day specialist player. I wonder why they drop him out some times. Even if he is not in form he should be included in the playing eleven as he can give options for part time spin and is an excellent fielder as well. Its time to give a break to Kohli so that he can work on his technique. Samson on No.3 will be a perfect replacement. No harm to try him out in this series. Go India Go. I can see only positive things ahead for Team India.

  • sudhindranath on August 27, 2014, 22:00 GMT

    England ODI team looks too much like the Test team. Bell needs to be replaced by some other competent ODI batsmen. Jordan will have to be replaced by Gurney. Perhaps Stokes too, but maybe he can be tried for one more game..

  • Jama on August 27, 2014, 21:59 GMT

    Totally agree with HR1206, India wont be able to survive in Australia.

    Kick Kohli out. He is more of a fame now than a hardworking cricketer. He is worried about his investments than Indian cricket.

    Everyone once thought Kohli would Surpass Sachin but there is only one Sachin and He was/is/will always be considered the best in the business. Not cook in tests and not Kohli in ODIs would surpass the cricket GOD. Forget Sachin, Kohli is no where near even ganguly.

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on August 27, 2014, 21:57 GMT

    i bet each and every one of u here... India will thrash each and every team in the upcoming world cup to remain as World champions...

  • brusselslion on August 27, 2014, 21:52 GMT

    Alastair Cook: ".. we've got a good chance..." Of doing what precisely? Certainly not winning this series, let alone a World Cup with the current side.

  • Essexspur on August 27, 2014, 21:51 GMT

    Having made the extraordinary decision to leave out their most crucial player - Bopara - England got the predictable result. He should come in for Cook who simply isn't a one day plaer.

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:41 GMT

    I agree that Cook does not belong in the one-day squad. Let a promising younger player have a shot.

  • neil99 on August 27, 2014, 21:33 GMT

    This is the wrong captain, batting line up and bowling unit, so the team needs a complete overhaul. Stale, impotent, lacklustre, unimaginative, one paced - a few words to describe ODI cricket under Cook, who again today proved he's not leadership material by reacting to Swann's rather damning, but highly accurate team précis.

    Cook, Bell, Ballance, Jordan & Tredwell should be jettisoned and replaced with some young talent who understand the modern one day game eg Lumb, Taylor, Vince, Moeen, Finn, Gurney, etc, etc

  • krishmar1 on August 27, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    For test cricket lovers like me, there is not an iota of consolation even if India go on to win the ODI series. What a shame -- India has never been a good test cricket playing nation, let alone a formidable one!

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:28 GMT

    and Jordan seriously needs to go back to basics... A call to arms for Finn...

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:23 GMT

    Cook is a great batsman but his time and style are not benefiting England in the 1 day game. with in form players like Taylor and Roy absolutely Smashing it in domestic league you have to wonder what the selectors and Cook are thinking.

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:21 GMT

    Good way to get rid of that shame by saying ''Test'' is the real form of cricket and ODI has no significance, rather than accepting a defeat. Over-all performance in all forms of cricket should be considered and commented upon.

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:18 GMT

    My word England are terrible at ODIs. We're not great at T20s either but we at least get the tempo much better most of the time, and the bowling.

  • rk_ks on August 27, 2014, 21:17 GMT

    @Nampally: One match and you started praising Ravi Shastri. No wonder people like you are one of the big concerns. After a win you praise as if we won the world cup and put the players on cloud 9. Keep them on ground. You saw what happened after Lord's right. And people like you posted the similar comments, very well played world class..all sorts of stuff. Our team will take things for granted after a win and is most consistent in bringing an out of form team/player into form. Wait until the end of the series to prove your point.

  • barryrichardsfan on August 27, 2014, 21:09 GMT

    Raina has been overly criticised despite having decent numbers for someone who has batted 5 and below most of his career. 36 avg. 92 strike rate. That is partly fair to some extent, one may say, as this was only his 4th 50+ score outside subcontinent. But he brings much more than just his batting to the unit. The energy and the positivity. Now time has come to see such contributions from him more often, as he is capable clearly. And regarding potentially more potent combination, Ind should use the services of Samson in middle order pushing Rahane to open(for Dhawam). Also would like to see Dhawal/Yadav at some stage though the trio today have held their spot for now.

  • on August 27, 2014, 21:00 GMT

    Kohli should be dropped. He is vastly overrated and has lost confidence for this series. For his own good, he deserves a rest.

  • on August 27, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    Raina is playing one dayers not test so it is hard to get him out with short balls in one days. Will destroy all bowlers.

  • JG2704 on August 27, 2014, 20:35 GMT

    Just wondering here. Does anyone else think that England are now using the ODIs as a nursery for tests? When they selected Carberry last year , many of us were salivating about it and thought he deserved his chance in the SFs. He then played like a frightened rabbit & the next thing he's in the test side. We're thinking that Hales has at last got his ODI opportunity but I wonder if it is more with a view to integrating him into the test side than because they think he's a good shout in the 50 over game. Looking at the side , if Broad is unfit 9 of those players could start the next test match with the only changes being Ballance and Ali in and Morgan and Tredwell out. Surely they must be able to see what I see in that Stokes is an expensive bowler + a batsman who averages poorly with a poor SR for Eng in ODIs. Woakes who (to be fair to him came back well today )with the ball has never done much of note in white ball cricket so why he is even there?

  • JG2704 on August 27, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    Well played India - esp Raina , but that was as poor as anything for England , proving once more that they so often crumble when a biggish score is put in front of them. 300+ was way above par on that pitch IMO

    The only player who comes out of the game with credit for Eng is Tredwell - and maybe Woakes deserves some credit for the way he came back with the ball. As already touched upon , our bowling was poor. Jordan had a really bad day and how many times do I have to say that the 2 Okes are not great white ball cricketers. I feel we missed Ravi with the ball and how predictable that the only bowler who could keep a lid on things was Tredwell. Hales looked decent with the bat at 1st but then got bogged down. Cook was bogged down from the start , Bell made an error of judgment and Root,Buttler and Morgan were scratchy. I gave up when Buttler went

  • JG2704 on August 27, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    @Rajesh_india_1990 (Aug 27, 2014, 14:18) Hussey and Bevan no longer play for Australia. I'd say Raina can be as dangerous and the SA pair of ABDV and Miller and Matthews is pretty decent too

    @bobmartin (Aug 27, 2014, 18:02) Come on man , credit where it's due. MSD is a class finisher in this format and India are a better side who smoked us in every dept

    @tests_the_best (Aug 27, 2014, 18:15) Definitely about mindset. India have more flair players , England have more stamina players

    @nlight (Aug27, 2014, 18:16) Re India having better of the conditions - No , India rode through the tough start and batted better aided by some poor stuff from our bowlers. Raini was magnificent

    @Nampally (Aug 27, 2014, 18:19 ) India are a better SF side. When they play another away test series we'll see is Shastri has had a positive affect

    @CricketingStargazer (Aug 27, 2014, 18:43 ) There were actually 3 changes. Out , going Ballance,Bopara and Gurney and in coming Hales, Stokes and Woakes

  • Aisha_Malik on August 27, 2014, 20:21 GMT

    Cook - 'I am going to go and captain at this World Cup'

    I am not an England supporter but its pretty clear that in-form Jason Roy and Alex Hales would make the best and most feared one day / T20 opening partnership, with Morgan as captain. Cook does not merit his place in the one day side, he is bringing down the strength of the team and its a shame for the english paying public who will be travelling to Australia as they deserve the best 11 at the World Cup.

  • Karthik78 on August 27, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    India should continue the form till the tour completes. Not like winning one test and losing remaining all. Hope it will not be case with ODIs. Top batting order is still worry. Kohli/Dhawan definitely need some break. Please try out new members. Don't wait till it becomes disastrous like in Tests.

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 27, 2014, 20:12 GMT

    as a indian i want to say one thing to our indians dont excite with this win against eng we know eng is weaker than bangladesh in odis now becoz see stats last 12 months eng lost 20+ odis the only team lost such no.of odis and eng is in another group in WC we are in danger group PAK,WI,SA and zim also can make us shock on australian bounce pitches. did you saw match RAINA was LBW in tradwell bowling becoz of no DRS they lost in WC there is DRS and bounce on the pitches with this 130-135kmp bowlers we cant compete lets see how ind play odi's in aus

  • on August 27, 2014, 20:06 GMT

    Flash in the pan. No one became a hero or a villain overnight.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 27, 2014, 19:59 GMT

    What a difference a change in formats can make eh. Excellent knock by Raina, and I thought Rahane played some awesome shots too. Congratulations India; well played.

    I should give credit to Woakes here for bowling so well, after giving him no chance in the preview/run up to the series; but can he replicate this form again this series? Doubts over Stokes well and truly justified though. Forget the World Cup for the moment - I say we need Bopara to stand any chance of competing in THIS home series. Tredwell good as ever.

    Batting [England's] was simply abysmal. I never like England chasing at the best of times, but as I said during the preview they really do seem to make a hash out of it when D/L is involved/mentioned. Bell's dismissal epitomised it all really. Meaty blows from Hales had us interested for a wee while, but not much else to stir the senses. Absolutely need much better performances in the rest of the series.

  • PeerieTrow on August 27, 2014, 19:48 GMT

    @jagluth: I always smile when people talk about the "world champions" years after those in the team that actually won the event have stopped playing. Today's India team contained only three players from 2011, so hardly "world champions", and highly unlikely to be so in 2015. As I said earlier, today's result was more a case of England losing than India winning. BCCI, please ensure the trophy is nicely polished before handing it back.

  • Chris_P on August 27, 2014, 19:43 GMT

    @jagluth Test cricket is a fading art? Really? I guess someone forgot to tell the 91,000 people who turned up day 1 at the MCG last season. Perhaps in India, but elsewhere, I see a lot of cricket supporters who understand & appreciate our great game. India showed in the England series what & how they treat test cricket. If they don't want to participate, then they should drop out, we can see their focus is on T20's, nothing wrong with that, mind you, but don't knock other formats where there is a given success model currently operating.

  • Kays789 on August 27, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    Watching Cook bat in ODIs (even tests for that matter these days) is like scratching at your eye balls till the corneas peel out. What somebody so incompetent in playing aggressively and scoring quickly is doing in an ODI team, only the England selectors will know.

  • on August 27, 2014, 19:38 GMT

    did not see the match but looks like england forgot that it was them who made raina look like dead duch againat short pitch balls in 2011...

  • KnowItAllGuy on August 27, 2014, 19:36 GMT

    6th over from Anderson was the turning point. First delivery: beautiful outside the off and Rohit was beaten all ends up. Anderson talks to Cook and brings in an extra slip. Rohit clobbers the next ball to four. Two deliveries later, executes an exquisite cover drive for four.....

  • MikesSpinOnCricket on August 27, 2014, 19:31 GMT

    I was at the match and only when Raina and Dhoni were together did the match swing their way. Anderson and Woakes bowled brilliantly in the opening Powerplay but, with Jordan's 5-wide over and Woakes tanked for 20 in his second spell, English shoulders drooped and India thrived. None of the England batsmen performed. Hales may have unleashed some sweet extra cover drives but, like Cook, he played, missed and edged a great deal before being completely marooned in mid-innings.

    India deserved their big victory but the fault doesn't sit just with England's senior players. Take note, Messrs Swann and Vaughan!

  • jagluth on August 27, 2014, 19:20 GMT

    thank god boring five day test matches are over. exciting cricket prevails and allways will. test cricket is a fading art. the 'world champions have finally arrived'. come on msd we are behind you and well done for a resounding victory. may it be said that players who had little if any opprtunities in the tests did the best.

  • RD_CricFan on August 27, 2014, 19:08 GMT

    Kohli will regain the form and will be back with a bang. He will shut mouth of all his critics. Kohli is a fighter and will prove that. He is the player on whose shoulders India was winning in last 3 years and he will do that again. one bad series will only improve players like Kohli and make him more determined.

  • on August 27, 2014, 19:07 GMT

    India took sweet revenge against England. The english batsmen looked at sea against the indian bowlers.

  • RaghuProdhutoori on August 27, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    Congrats to TEAM INDIA on doing well in the ODI....Raina was excellent in all the three departments irrespective of result this gives his best in every department on the field...I wonder how they are still sustaining with shikar...its better that rahane opens the innings with rohit and shikar should make way for rayudu...or else bring in samson in place of shikar who showed lots of guts on australian soil recently..In the bowling i would love to see umesh/aaron in place of mohit...umesh/aaron will generate extra pace out of the wicket and bhuvi can swing the ball from other end..Common India we are heading to WC start builiding the team

  • on August 27, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    The result does not surprise . India are surely one of the top ODI teams along with Aus and SA . Ind spinners especially start bowling well .In areas such as NZ SA spin got negated and that is the only concern. Ind batting is good enough .

  • sunnysigara on August 27, 2014, 18:54 GMT

    There is nothing wrong with Virat.k. MSD should send him some other batting position than 3. How many have we seen a batsman to regain his form after changing his batting position?

  • perl57 on August 27, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    Let the series be over and truth will come out automatically that England was is and will be hopeless by all counts. I wish Moeen Ali plays..... Kohli is always an automatic choice. Form is temporary and class is permanent and it is a very good sign of Kohli failing coz he will click in World Cup. But Dhawan is a goner. No patience at all. All he needs to do is play out the 50 overs and come up with a 100 of 130 balls. That is highly beneficial for the teaM.

  • anupamraj114 on August 27, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    @Ian Brunett..This is the reason why End dont have any 50 over world cup in their kitty and India have 2....haha...utter shame in few months we have a World Cup and u r saying it as meaningless....look at ur toothless one day batting....play a series with Ban and they will also defeat u....!!

  • CricketingStargazer on August 27, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    One comment was that this is not a new era, the England side has only one change: Hales, so you can not expect results to change. Rot!

    Compare the side to the 1st ODI in Australia and there are 6 changes, 2 of them positional. No Ballance, Bopara, Bresnan or Rankin. Bell was opening. Root played at #3.

    It is a completely re-jigged side. And the result is no different. And we do not even have the consolation of looking at Australia and saying that they were so outstanding: South Africa has rolled them over without breaking sweat.

    We need to start thinking of making more fundamental changes, one of which may well have to be a new opener to partner Hales.

  • mav_nitb on August 27, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    @Harry Flashman Why bother posting if you dont care m8? I am sure none of the cricinfo readers atleast, needed reminding what happened in the test series. This rant from many English supporters sounds a touch like" those grapes are sour" (grapes being ODIs in this case).

  • sitaram58 on August 27, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    Ravi Shastri is a genius!!!! All credit (and then some) must go to him for turning around the India team. The team is unbeatable and will conquer the world and the world cup. Dhoni should be nominated to the Rajya Sabha and Shastri must be given the Padma Bhushan.

  • brusselslion on August 27, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    Good win for India. Well played. No great surprise though, as the current England ODI squad is just not 'fit for purpose' Will the selectors never learn?

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    lol England fans using sane old strategy " we won't care for meaningless odi" , ofcourse why would you care??? you have so many icc trophies in your pockets, so much that you are bored with those trophies....lol .... if India loses next match , all those " we don't care about this odi " guys will have their guns fully loaded to shoot...lol

  • sunnysigara on August 27, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    HarryFlashman ha ha...everbody says the same thing when they lose.

    Dont care if u don't want to. Eng are already 10 years behind in odi. And if the don't take drastic steps, losses will pile up & one day will come when they start losing in test matches in home as well.Besides who cares abt loses in endless parade of meaningless test matches?:p

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    Body language of Indian player was positive. New coaching staff have helped players tremendously. Assistant coaches like sanjay bangar , b arun , and also ravi shastri have had very positive impact on players attitude. I hope they would find replacement for fletcher as well. Team India needs Indian coaches.

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    Finally India Bounce back with a supereme Victory. All thanks to the Centurian" Suresh Raina". Dhoni should try Sanju Samdon in the next game in place of Dhawan.!!

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    "Batting under the lights looked a more onerous proposition than when Raina sallied forth earlier in the day, " A white lie. Did Mr Hopps watch the game? India's innings and Rain's in particular were under lights for most of it.

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    Oh have we lost another meaningless ODI ? What a pity. Still, we won the series that really mattered.....

  • desiboy454 on August 27, 2014, 18:19 GMT

    This is why I love Raina!!! He brings in so much positive energy into the team! There is no doubt that he isn't technical sound or a great! But very little cricketers play with the heart that Raina plays with. I know he wont score as much in Aus as he does in Asia, but his energy will bring a lot to the team in the WC. Great knock Raina! Lets go team India!

  • Nampally on August 27, 2014, 18:19 GMT

    It looks like Shastri's "tough Love" tactics are working &magically the "spineless batting" has got legs! Now the intensity must continue for the next 3 ODI's without any let downs. Today arguably the 2 best "Finishers" in ODI carried India to Win with 144 run stand aided by a magnificent century from Raina & a 50 from Skipper Dhoni. Raina who was omitted from the Test squad showed no fears in attacking the all pace + I spinner England attack with Gusto @ a S/R of over 130! He was mainly instrumental in making the England bowling what it really is - Average. Indian Test team made the same bowling look unplayable with their "gutless" batting. Kohli continued his "Golden Duck" streak. It would be best to rest him & let Rayudu shine in his spot. Certainly "A new Kid on the block" will bring Runs rather than Ducks. Raina showed it how to do it & let Rayudu add on. Even Jadeja abandoned his defensive game to take 4 wkts. The fallibility of England batting to spin was badly exposed!

  • rk_ks on August 27, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    @VillageBlacksmith : I do agree that DRS should be part of the game and even lot od Indian's don't understand why BCCI is playing the politics game. But the same lack of DRS helped England to pick some major wickets in test series. Why didn't you offend then.

  • Prodger on August 27, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    Ballance needs to be in the side with immediate effect

  • nlight on August 27, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    England certainly didn't play well at all, but if Raina had been correctly given out, India could well have floundered. India also got the best of the conditions, so they shouldn't take too much comfort from this win. Although I supported Cook continuing as test captain, it's difficult to give support to him continuing in any capacity in ODIs. Swann must be right that England need to go with the up and coming players, rather than Cook & Bell to stand any chance of being competitive in the WC, although I would still like to see Ballance at the top of the order as an anchor. Also, time to give Finn another chance.

  • tests_the_best on August 27, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    Huge margin doesn't make sense. More or less same team for both sides from the test series less than couple weeks ago. Even with the red ball to white ball change, how can there be such a huge difference in performances. Probably more about mindset than skill set. On India's last tour Down Under or SA, NZ this year, good performances from the hosts in the test series carried onto the odis. The occasional loss was by a narrow margin.

    I think Eng need a serious re-think about how they approach the odi game. Looks like Swann/Vaughan need to be hired as consultants.

  • HarryFlashman on August 27, 2014, 18:12 GMT

    I'm away on holiday. Does anyone in England actually care? We won the Test Series which is what I suspect English fans will remember rather than the start of an endless parade of meaningless one day games.

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    very encouraging signs for India... after an overdependence on kohli and dhoni in recent times it was refreshing to see raina for once carrying his IPL form into the blue jersey... much credit should also go to rahane and rohit for playing out the most difficult passage of play in the match .... dhawan needs a batting consultant who can mould his defence... although I believe that rohit and rahane should swap positions in this line up the present one s solid too... by the way why not try vijay in the ODIs ? after all he made his name in limited overs cricket didn't he? vijay or dhawan/rohit/kohli/rahane/raina/dhoni/jadeja/ashwin/bhuvi/mohit or umesh/shami or Aaron.. tat makes 14.. the bench will still have rayudu/yuvraj/ishant and samson

  • man90 on August 27, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    To all sri lankan fans: Yes Dhoni s not a test match player. He has not scored centuries outside subcontinent. But don't tell him as overrated ODI Player. He averages 53.28 whereas your Sanga averages just 40.94. Dhoni has won many games single handedly for India over the years. He s a class act. Sanga is overrated ODI Player but a better test player.

    DRS won matches for India. If the same DRS was there in test series, it would have been tighter. Dont jump on bad decisions. It happens in Cricket. Look at your performance in home series against Pak. Where were you when India chased 320 in 36 overs at Hobart. Stop complaining and start playing

    To ECB: Even though i am not an englishman, i felt Jason Roy is good for ODI's during county T20 matches., Kindly drop those baggages like cook, bell and bring Jason Roy and even KP.

    On the whole great performance from India. We are world champions, Champions trophy winners. Lets hope this form continues.

  • tests_the_best on August 27, 2014, 18:06 GMT

    Swanny was right on - it's just one game but based on England's team and performance today, they seem to have little chance of winning the world cup. I doubt they can even make the semis. India though played in a heartening manner, might not win the WC in Aus but should be able to put in some great performances.

  • y4yoga on August 27, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    Initially i mentioned its the time for one of the openers to go ..... so its obviously shikkar will be left out( if not scored a century in next match), I am observing Rohit from the start of his career, he is plaing his natural game when there is no threat for his place(niether middle order or opener) and play a responsible(only for him) game like a 50(70b) 60(80b) to retain his place which he is doing for the past 7 years. but shikkhar devoted to country irrespective of his place plays his natural game always so is going to lose his place permanently after this series.... His replacement would be not more than the anticipated Murali Vijay....

  • on August 27, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    Raina's ton was outstanding. Hope he can continue this form till world cup. Excellent innings when your team is under pressure. Dhoni as usual cool headed. Still we need to find out a solid opening pair. Bring in Samson in place of dhawan and rahane as opener and rohit to 4th spot. Rohit is better fit in middle order rather than as an opener. Now coming to the real concern, "when" anyone can expect advertiser's friendly Mr. One and Only "Koh-ad-Li" to return back in form. Hope before the series ends Kohli will return to form and also like to see Samson and Karn in action.

  • samincolumbia on August 27, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    BCCI should organize an IND-SL ODI series for Kohli to get back into form. He loves smacking SL bowlers.

  • bobmartin on August 27, 2014, 18:02 GMT

    First things first .. for all those praising Dhoni as the best ODI batsman on the strength of his average... I suggest you check his vastly inflated stats... For 30% of his innings he has come in low down in the order and finished not out So with that percentage of not outs he is bound to have a good average... Secondly.. let's not get too carried away with one victory... India won one test.. then lost the next three..

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:59 GMT

    @Libin Thomas don't you know sanga has 86 fifties along with 19 100s, which means 105 50+ in career. avg 40 , 12700 runs , what else he has to do to prove all time great??ganguly has far less strike rate , almost same avg and only 3 more hundreds but 14 less fifties. there is no comparison between sanga and ganguly , sanga is great . yes sachin is all time great in odi cricket.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:56 GMT

    I think this is one of the best odi knocks i have seen today by raina outside the subcontinent and that too in a pressure condition. so in all a good win for india but guys let's just not get carried away. we still got 3 more matches and we all know what happened after india won in lords test. i don't want that to be repeated again. we have to win this odi series.

  • KrikIndFan on August 27, 2014, 17:54 GMT

    England played like they were never in the game, apart from some positive & promising signs like Hales as their must-have-in-WC15, Woakes spinning ability, there was nothing much the English could do against an amazing comeback from Raina, the usual fight till the end Dhoni, not to forget innings from Rahane & Rohit to help the bowlers gain back their confidence who had such a miserable test series, however, Kohli & Dhawan still needs to work harder. Overall, well done, boys!...that's how you play an ODI. Over to you, haters!

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:51 GMT

    Now India will not lose 4-0 for sure. England may win the series 3-1.

  • I_Love_My_India on August 27, 2014, 17:50 GMT

    First of all, congrats to Team India. We did a good job to come back after 19/2. Though Raina was plumb LBW and was lucky with some of his shots early, he played really well once settled with MSD, Rahane and Rohit chipping in...

    Just as much as India is a different unit in ODI, England is also looking too different in the ODI. Where is Moen who took almost all the wickets in the tests and Finn who can move the ball either ways? England team selectors really lost their mind when they replaced Moen with Tredwell.

    By the way, Indian team must realize that they won the first test and went on to lose rest of the matches. Team India is notorious to make an out-of-form team to in-form. Hopefully, that does not happen in this ODI series....

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:48 GMT

    raina bro rocks and good too see in all formats tests,odi's and t20s in upcoming games for Australia and Westindies tour's

  • wake_up_india on August 27, 2014, 17:48 GMT

    Let's save the celebarations until the fat lady has sung (the series is over) lest there is another 3-1 series defeat.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:47 GMT

    while I appreciate and applaud for raina's century and India's win... I am worried of our own fans, let alone our jealous neighbours... what wrong with you guys, why are u all upset with kohli??? he has had one bad series, everybody has, will have in.future too, how. many bad series does rohit sharma had before , still.he.doesn't have one good seriea...but still nobody calls for his head, same is the case with ishant.... when.kohli entred SA with a blistering century, all.praised him as next backbone...it's mot even been one year and you all guys want him to.be sacked???? last time I checked dravid has had atleast 3 bad patches( ad far I remember) , same goes for Sachin, imagine if the team management had sacked them when they had bad patch. would we have witnessed those greats???? kohli has already faced one bad series before this against England only in India and he was quick to regain his form.. just give him some air.. 25 year old heart cam take too much pressure

  • PeerieTrow on August 27, 2014, 17:47 GMT

    Hmmmmm..... a bit reminiscent of the Lord's test match; more a case of England losing than India winning!

  • ishaan1997 on August 27, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    People saying no drs won India the match,really? Agreed India are against it but then with no drs, even England gained. Bell and balance won't have hit centuries and India could have won that match too.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 27, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    @Silverbails, I don't know whether you are an India fan or an England fan, but I agree with your lament that India should have done better in the test series. It should have done well, but unfortunately it didn't. The reason is not hard to guess: in India at present there is hardly any interest left among the common public as far as test matches are concerned. Situation has become even worse ever since IPL started in 2008. Indians will not be happy if they lose in test cricket, but they will not be heartbroken either. They will be really sad if England were to thrash them in the ODIs. In England, and to a certain extent in Australia, the situation seems to be opposite. People do come to watch test cricket, unlike in India where in the test matches one just sees empty stands. While in a typical IPL match, most of the times at least 80% attendance is guaranteed, and in a city like Mumbai, it is 100%.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    @Yousufahmed1 sanga played 34 test matches outside aisia and made 7 hundreds, avg more than 53 . meanwhile your dhoni has 6 test and 9 odi 100s all in aisia no 100 outside aisia. if he didn't get chance to play too many matches outside aisia what's his fault? they got 2 matches in england and india got 5 matches evern srilanka is batter team. when you got more match you will get more 100s. sanga palyed 4 inn in his last england tour he scored 3 fifties and 1 100. sanga is class even more than sachin.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:44 GMT

    albert campell ..what sanga has done to be the greatest in oneday cricket ? test I agree he is one of the best ever ..in oneday he is just an average batsman he has scored only 19 oneday centuries in his career so far ..indians sachin and ganguly are far better oneday players ..srilankas jayasurya was a better oneday played compared to sangakkara ..

  • rk_ks on August 27, 2014, 17:44 GMT

    @nursery_ender: While it's true that Raina survived an umpiring decision and it favored India, where were you when the same England took advantage of the 5-6 wrong umpiring decisions against India in the test series.

  • vick2025 on August 27, 2014, 17:41 GMT

    @silverbails,

    Test Cricket is the ultimate format of the game that dictates how well or poor a country is playing. And there is no question that India is been doing very bad in test cricket when playing outside of the subcontinent. While ODI is a different format of the game, do you not see, these are the same ENG players who beat same Indian team after the second series in every game. Thus, this win is big for India's confident going further into this game and also for future. While this does not fix the current problem with test cricket, it does however, gives these young Indian players exposure playing on a flat pitch. Also keep in mind that before this past series win against India, England have also been whitewash and brown wash for the last 2 year in all formats of the game. Enough said.

  • RoBoBobster on August 27, 2014, 17:41 GMT

    I have come to the conclusion that England cannot win the world cup with this team. If they do it can only be because opponents lose it, not England winning it. It is easy to forget amongst all the test problems, but England's top order have struggled for several series now, with scores often boosted by Buttler, Bopara and the tail hiding these problems. With this in mind a new set of players cannot be a bad thing as even if they fail, it won't make a major difference, and if they succeed some real gems can be found. My team from here on would be Hales, Wright, Vince, Ballance, Morgan, Buttler, Bopara, Woakes, Tredwell, Finn, Anderson, with Roy, Taylor, Jordan, Gurney and Stokes able to shuffle in depending on how each individual does.16 odd ODIs is time for players to settle in, but once it gets less than ten there is no room to manoeuver. Please ECB, be brave.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:37 GMT

    @Assertive-Indian on (August 27, 2014, 14:14 GMT)

    @ Anand Ramachandran on (August 27, 2014, 10:19 GMT)

    @Skull Smasher on (August 27, 2014, 10:48 GMT)

    @Realistic_cri_fan on (August 27, 2014, 13:59 GMT)

    Nice to be proved wrong, no? Be happy! I am!

  • Starvybz on August 27, 2014, 17:36 GMT

    hhaha i said it swann and vaughan it said and so did half of india they were gonna get smoked they can crticise the ipl all they want but when it comes to limed overs england need help and very quickly

  • gsingh7 on August 27, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    some observations for past few days-- 1.) india is the current champions are good bet to retain their crown 2. sa are good pre world cup but chokes most often than not in icc trophy matches 3. australia are no where near the glory days of past and their bowling leaks runs like a drain.they will be lucky to even play competitive cricket on their own grounds 4. england wud be lucky to even reach sf of world cup.never were a force in short format , never will be. 5 pak and sl are too inconsistent and are low on talented strokeplayers to win woorld cup. nz are dark horses but limited talent pool rules them out. 6. less we talk of bangladesh ,wi, , the better.

  • LAKINGSFAN on August 27, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    High flying hot-headed Kohli is being grounded by English. Hope he takes this challenge and finds himself out of hole.

  • VillageBlacksmith on August 27, 2014, 17:33 GMT

    @rk_ks…. DRS should be in all games mate… It's called progress… Plus Just searching for the Bell supporters…????? Another great commanding shot from him… Laughable… Taylor, Vince, Roy & Bairstow cannot get into the team because of dinosaurs who play innings like this… Yet another opportunity for bell to make a difference… and er….. he doesn't… Same as Morgan…. On the slide and needs to be moved on for the hungry youngsters… The run rates always rise under Cook, Bell and (for the last year) morgan… time to move on from these guys who have won nothing

  • LAKINGSFAN on August 27, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    One hundred from Raina and people want him back in test matches. Honestly, he's a not a (good) test player. He's an excellent limited overs player.He excels in all departments in ODI and T20s. I would like to see him as a captain once Dhoni is done for ODI and T20. Don't spoil his confidence making him play in tests. What I want is, he should play all ODIs and T20s that India plays in the coming years.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 27, 2014, 17:29 GMT

    Finally, good to be on the winning side. And, boy, what a comprehensive win! These young guns of our team are extremely talented and are world winners on their own day. But they have to learn to be consistent in their performance. I hope that after winning this one, the final result will not be 3-1 England, like in the tests! Nevertheless, good to be on the winning side rather than on the losing one. As far as England are concerned, things simply didn't click for them. They will have to figure out their ideal team combination, and, most importantly bowlers who can trouble these young Indian batsmen. I had a fear that like in the 2011 tour, India even after scoring a lot of runs, will end up on the losing side courtesy wet ball and Duckworth-Lewis. Fortunately for India, it didn't happen. Great win for India, and tough luck England. May be England can try Steve Finn next time. That extra pace can be helpful.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:27 GMT

    Congrats India for the resounding win. More impotently for the intent, they showed throughout, except the first half an hour in the morning, when the conditions were tough. And, the energy level shown in the field, in the England's innings.

    I wonder where all these (intent, energy et al were kept secretly hidden somewhere, during the test series. Half in jest... perhaps India may want to play test matches in coloured clothing and with white balls :-)

  • CricketChat on August 27, 2014, 17:26 GMT

    Win or loss, Dhawan and Kohli shouldn't be in the team based on their perfromances thus fat on the tour. Ind should give chances to players on the bench.

  • ThilankaK on August 27, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    Thanks to not using DRS India once again won the match , when Raina was 17 clean LBW not given by IPL umpire Paul Riferll ,after that 2nd innings he scored another 83 runs , This How India Wining Matches !

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Where is moen ali. I would say England dispretly need moen if they want to perform in the rest of the series. I just amazed that actually James tradewell took his place

  • Silverbails on August 27, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    Well, no doubt the Indian Team Management will feel that all's well now, now that India have won a ODI. Sadly, this format of the game is all India seem to care about now, especially given how commercially lucrative it is for the players!! Sad and disappointing that the team management can't seem to apply the same ethos to the purest and truest form of the game, which is still regarded by many as the pinnacle of the game: TEST CRICKET. Who cares about such an inconsequential ODI series? Really sad to see the 'energy' displayed by the Indians here, although not really surprised in the least!!

  • balajik1968 on August 27, 2014, 17:20 GMT

    India has the basics of 50 overs cricket right. They seem to have totally forgotten how to play 5 day cricket. It is the other way around with England. Their ODI game is at least 10 years behind the times. I always feel England is not seriously committed to the limited overs game.

  • kc69 on August 27, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    Ha ha ha...those who said India will lose etc...Hello...do you remember who is the world champion is.

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    Win against a second 11! Great!

  • on August 27, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    Very will dhoni & raina and team

  • jb633 on August 27, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    Well played India you have absolutely smoked us, as if I am going to be honest i thought would happen. Nothing will happen with this ODI side until we pick attacking cricketeres (that means bowlers). We need someone who can pick up wickets in the middle overs. Tredwell is a good option but we need someone to support. Given how Stokes looks dreadful at the moment why is Ravi not playing. Cook and Bell fail yet again and we need to understand Butler still has a lot of bad days ahead of him. Please ECB wake up before the world cup. This side will not compete with anyone but Bangladesh.

  • yorkshire-86 on August 27, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    England chase a low DL score? Don't think so, with our batting line up lumbered with Bell...

  • on August 27, 2014, 16:46 GMT

    Raina played very well... i am wondering why Kohli is not performing well, even in ODI's.. but England's batting is still next to come. i am seeing England winning this match too!!

  • rk_ks on August 27, 2014, 16:41 GMT

    @VillageBlacksmith : You didn't ask for DRS when at least 5-6 decisions have gone against India in the test series.

  • on August 27, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Wat i find interesting about raina is dat he has a very good strike rate., Dis takes the pressure of other batsmen and dis allows dem to flourish... And raina's cover drives,, They were textbook drives.. would love him 2 c in d test squad fr australia.......

  • RK.Chandru on August 27, 2014, 16:05 GMT

    After so many failures, if Kohli and Shikar Dhawan manage to score one 50 in an insignificant match, would they still make it to the series down under? Do they deserve to play international cricket after soooo many failures? Don't we have worthy replacements waiting in the wings????? Isn't Shikar a flat pitch bully?

  • rk_ks on August 27, 2014, 16:03 GMT

    @Albert_cambell : Dhoni comes at number 6. Gilchrist is an opener, Sanga at no 3, Devilliers at 4. There is a difference. While Gilchrist, AB and Sanga are really great cricketers. Dhoni is not any less. And Dhoni has the added pressure of captaincy where none of the other 3 has that.

  • nursery_ender on August 27, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    England definitely on the wrong end of the umpiring this time.

  • on August 27, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    I was accepting this from raina today well done

  • thalagune on August 27, 2014, 15:03 GMT

    @Rajesh_india_1990...not only dhoni your entire indian side is the best in the worid,and all the rest of the world including donald bradman are just simply overrated.....oh god.....unbeleivable estimate of ones own team...haha

  • Yousufahmed1 on August 27, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    @ Albert_cambell Mentioning CTB(colombo track bully) Sanga in same sentence with ABD and Gilly is an insult to those great. Need I remind u Sanga has only 5 100s outside SC after playing 124 test matches and Sl other great Mahela has scored half his 100s on one ground in Sl. Even Jadeja has better average than Mahela. LOL.

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    It's high time for kholi to be benched. Can the team selectors be more objective after the trashing India got in test matches. A lot of youngsters are waiting to prove their talents.

  • VillageBlacksmith on August 27, 2014, 14:40 GMT

    Jeeeeez… We are already seeing Cook's problem… Translated from Test to ODI… And that is Cook leaving wide half volleys… It's ODI cricket Cooky and I'm afraid these wide half volleys have to be smacked to the boundary, not waved past to the keeper for a dot ball…. Esp with D/L…. BTW The tv is showing Bairstow's fantastic innings last time here.. The selectors should hang their heads in shame in how they have treated that gerat batting talent…

  • y4yoga on August 27, 2014, 14:28 GMT

    so where are the people asking " why Raina in the Squad?"........ "why So many chances to raina?", before the start of the match itself I mentioned that Raina gets to play after 30 overs and the time he gets to bat he had to start hitting the from the 1st Ball he face and thats what happened today... and having so many practice in the test matches some of our Batsmen still struggling... Over the past couple of years Mr Kholi was covering a shadow over all the other India Batsmen or creating a hype that Team India is relied mainly on his batting and that has been proved wrong in this series and now he has been exposed.. hope this may be the Rise and fall of the former and the latter.

  • Albert_cambell on August 27, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    When other Subcontinent players fail in overseas wickets, they get called as FTB by Indian fans. Now Virat Kohli scored 134 in 10 innings in tests(Eventhough its his 1st series in England he had more improve when he plays 5 test match series. He should have at least played one good knock). Now he scores a duck in ODI. So what is he now?

  • Temuzin on August 27, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    MS is the greatest. No doubt about it. In spite of his detractors claims.

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    Indians will sleep today. But they want to drop Kohli. Poor Indians.. Ha ha.. lol

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on August 27, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    Dhoni is the best limited overs batsmen at present and best finishers of all time in ODI cricket..Likes of Michael bevan,hussey are overrated......

  • Albert_cambell on August 27, 2014, 14:16 GMT

    @wapuser. MS Dhoni is yet to play a match winning innings in overseas wickets. AB, Sangakkara,Gilchrist deserve to be there as All time greats in ODIs.

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    Terific Knock By Raina..Sympathies for Kholi , He is an absolute match winner for India, And Congrats to Dhoni for being one of the best ODI batsmen India has ever produced an unmistakable match winner for India in Odis since some odd 5-6 years...last time in 2011 he averaged above 70 as a batsmen ....now come on India finish this match!

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    It is only because of raina the indians were able to find a gud score . He shows the world that he is not only a t20 batsman but a gud odi batsman too ... Well done raina

  • Assertive-Indian on August 27, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    I don't see India winning this match. Either this match will be washed out, or due to persistent rain only 20-25 overs will be possible leading a D/L target which England will chase easily. This may well turn out to be theme of the remaining three matches as well. Somehow, lady luck is not favouring India, and it will be a repeat of 2011 ODI series, that no matter how many runs India make, D/L will reduce the targets for England to ridiculously low values.

  • whirlaway on August 27, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    Raina is going to be useless, if the team is planning on WC15 here. He's gonna be a sitting duck on the bouncy tracks of Aus/NZ against both the host teams plus SA, and perhaps even Eng and WI. Maybe even against Pak and SL. So he will play well only against Zim, BD, UAE etc.

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    Anderson gone for wicket-less. Always a question rises for me, do he really a main bowler for england team? he looks like pretty ordinary bowler. England should find out some johnson or steyn for their team to win world cup, otherwise i don't think england pass through atleast group stage

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    Dhoni should rotate players by giving rest to some seniors in order to make bench strong. Also selectors should find replacement of Dhoni in captaincy - As i see selectors strongly backing dhoni and ignoring to find his alternative. If dhoni gets injured in world cup, who will be the replacement for him ? Selectors need to concentrate on bench.

  • on August 27, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Ms dhoni...the all time great in Odi.average over 50 this is the reason..nothing in favor but always gives his 100 percent

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:59 GMT

    England tried to Stoke up some fire as support cast for Jimmy; but could not light it -- it turned out to be a damp squib. Jordan also turned out to be quite far and wide in playing that roll. But some consolation that England Woakes up with an alternative, which fired, at least today. Woakes seems to be a great trier and thinks better than the other support pacers; but jury will be still out on him, till he bowls to better opposition.

    Tredwell tried well to his ability, on the path trodden by Swann, once upon a time, but with limited impact. Neither he nor Ali is yet to prove that they are in Swann's class. Not even in the class of Panesar at his best. That's about the England bowling on show,just for TODAY. Not a definitive judgement on England bowling, till ECB sort out the right mix from all the available options.

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 27, 2014, 13:59 GMT

    India are 20-25 runs short.Remember in 2011,at Cardiff India's score was exactly 304-6.But England won by D/L method because of some onslaught by Bairstow.

    If India lose,the reason will be Rohit Sharma's slow batting.If he played at a strike rate of 85(mandatory in ODI), India would have reached 340 which is the par acore.

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    India lack of big hitters in slog overs. Being jadega in that role not at all working it, scoring just 39 runs in last overs having 6 wickets in hand is not at all good. India need to focus on big hitters and should welcome them in team. Dhoni looking like he loses his cream. I believe its time for new captain for winning coming world cup.

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    Let all arguments cease. MS Dhoni is the greatest ODI batsman ever. He averages 58 plus as a captain in ODIs. He has been India's greatest matchwinner in ODIs. Period.

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    Sadly my prediction came true, i was very afraid that bowlers like jordan can spoil everything and that is exactly what happened. woakes & stokes too are just average bowlers, after early 2 wickets down they could not exert any pressure on indian batsmen. while the credit has to be given when it is due indian batsmen did play very well but after 3 consecutive test cricket losses, toss loss, early 2 wicket fall, playing on foreign soil, some personal level issues with bcci/coach/director confusions - so everything was in favor of the bowling side but it was such a poor display of bowling and fielding from england i have not seen such ordinary play for quite some time. Up to around 260 was acceptable but this is tooooo much of runs.

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:38 GMT

    India's going to lose because of their bowling attack.their fast bowlers are not of international standard.just wait and watch how the Indians get destroyed.

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Its time to make way for SANJU SAMSON...He should be tried in this series early itself

  • on August 27, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    For next games need to drop and must drop Mr.Kohli... and give some1 like Sanju a chance.. Great display of great Cricketing shots by Raina...

  • yorkshire-86 on August 27, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    So now we will see if An England team encumbered by the presence of dead weight like Bell can chase a 300+ score in English conditions...

  • RD_CricFan on August 27, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Raina the beauty..Looks like Indian team need fresh mind for this particular series. England bowlers have dominated the Indian best batsmen mind in recent concluded test series and it will take time to come out of that for Indian batsmen

  • Greatest_Game on August 27, 2014, 13:14 GMT

    Rohit - solid knock. Rahane - even better. Raina - magnificent!! I bet there are some regrets that he was not in the tests team! What a knock.

  • bobmartin on August 27, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    To:- The ECB via Cricinfo... Dear Sirs, If this bowling attack is the new look for the future England ODI side, can we please have the old one back (without Dernbach) because this one isn't working... Yours Disaffectedly... Bob Martin

  • VillageBlacksmith on August 27, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    Gurney should be playing… And another shocking decision from reiffel… What's the point in bowling if the bowler is not going to get LBW's that are hitting middle and leg… Waste of time showing up… Will there be DRS vs India in the WC???

  • jb633 on August 27, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Garbage bowling and it looks like we have arrived firmly back to earth. I have said it for so long but we need a quick bowler to bowl first change, especially in Aus. If you don't take wickets in the middle the oppo will always score in excess of 300. India have batted well but have been aided by some really poor stuff. Swann and Vaughan are spot on, this side will never win anything. There is no variation in the bolwing attack and we don't have a go to bowler when we are under the pump, ie, Ajmal, Narine, Malinga, Johnson, Steyn. Glad this is happening now to be fair so the ECB can think about strategy.

  • on August 27, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    I am West Indian so I probably shouldn't even be suggesting what India should do or not because our own Test Team has not been successful for some time now but I am going to say it anyway, Suresh Raina as a cricketer has all the qualities to be a Test cricketer and I can't see why he is not included in their Test match set-up. I would even try him as an opener for Test matches

  • on August 27, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    India will get 310-330 to win by 120 runs. on a side note, Ill ask Virat Johli to take the next plane home and start practising at Roshnara where it swings and compensate RCB with another overseas player . He looks totally shot,He needs to play FC cricket

  • on August 27, 2014, 12:36 GMT

    unbelievable raina hitting some classical fours

  • Englishmanabroad on August 27, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    Jordan has now bowled 11 wides in 8 overs, thats a gift of effectively 2 additional overs to India (at 6 runs/over) without any effort on the part of the Indian Batsmen.

    Jordan IS NOT a limited overs bowler, (or a test match bowler for that matter). He totally lacks control. Is incapable of bowling a decent line or length.

    He needs to go. He is only good for getting out tail-enders.

  • CodandChips on August 27, 2014, 12:19 GMT

    When people criticise the ODI side they forget the bowlers. Bowlers are an important component of the side.

    Are Woakes and Stokes better allrounders than Bopara or better bowlers than Gurney or Finn in white-ball cricket? Woakes may have improved and may be bowling well in this game but only as fool would stick to those opinions.

    At least with Hales in the side we don't have to hope that the top order fails in order to score 300.

    The batting order needs stability to be consistent and quick scorers to beat 300 comfortably.

    You also need bowlers to reduce the runs and take wickets. Not too many bits and pieces allrounders.

    Until convinced otherwise my side for the worlds cup would be:

    1.Hales 2.Lumb/Bell 3.Root/Taylor 4.Morgan 5.Buttler 6.Bopara 7.Jordan 8.Broad 9.Tredwell (Briggs) 10.Gurney 11.Anderson/Finn

  • SaiKrishna09 on August 27, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    They will never drop Shikhar or anyone else for Sanju or Rayudu despite the fact that the current lot has performed badly in SA and NZ tours already.....they will keep on getting chances....

    At least Sanju has age on his side....He can go n settle in some other country where talent and attitude matters in team selection.....he might be given a decent chance.....

  • hiranya on August 27, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    whats the score Koli? Doni seem to be struggling as well.

  • black_bird on August 27, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    India will win this game with big margin. Dhoni will score some quick runs 70-80. And india will finish at 300+. Which is enough to defend.

  • on August 27, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    hey dear look at the virat avg in first class it is below 50....it is true that he dominated in odi in bt i think he has not a good technique for test...he will be the michel bewan of india.....

  • JG2704 on August 27, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    The non selection of Gurney is (unless he's injured) poor on many levels.

    He is surely a more reliable bowler than both Okes and I also think it's poor judgement to take a player away from his county side for a major domestic OD QF and then not even play him. Notts have a deep squad so it may not be SO important to them as a smaller county but IMO the principle remains the same.

  • CluelessJan on August 27, 2014, 11:43 GMT

    Agree Samuel. Kholi should be dropped and bring in Sehwag.

  • Ala-Wageda-Goa on August 27, 2014, 11:39 GMT

    Regardless players perform or not India is stuck with the same players. Faith overrules skill and intelligence in India

  • RD_CricFan on August 27, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Kohli is the player who was winning matches for india from last 3 years. you just cant ignore him due to one series. Every good player has to see lean phase.

  • BapiDas on August 27, 2014, 11:12 GMT

    Virat Kohli's cup of woe is not full yet! Yes, he is struggling not a doubt. However, he is talented enough to be able to get out of the rut. People who blame IPL or the presence of his girl friend as the 'reasons' are simply finding too easy solution to the problem! None of these factors has anything to do with Virat not performing well in England. Every cricketer faces this kind of situation in their career. A classy and good cricketer is he who can work his way out of the situation. Every failed outing adds to the stress. He needs only ONE or TWO good innings to get back to wher he should have been. Calmly thinking with his mind and NOT reacting to his emotions and the adverse criticism from all corners. Come on Virat, we know you have the talent and you can do it. Bite the bullet, put your head down and give it an honest try!!

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    A certain defeat for India

  • PeerieTrow on August 27, 2014, 10:42 GMT

    Pakistan, West Indies, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and England have all produced world class swing and seam bowlers over the years. Swing and seam bowling has been part of the game since day one. Indian teams have successfully played against such bowling over the years, so why of this India team is it being claiming that the reason they are losing is that they have to pay swing bowling in English conditions? Is it just that the current crop of Indian international cricketers aren't as good as their IPL $ millions would lead them to believe? In 2011 Akshaya Mishra wrote an article entitled, "Who killed swing bowling in India?" I would suggest that that is a question that still needs an answer.

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:41 GMT

    Guys hang on. The game is not over yet. Lets wait and see. Who knows we can pull out a miracle.

  • JermanSoldier on August 27, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    Why INDIA play the same batsmen who utterly failed to perform in the TEST matches..? Dhavan & Kohli especially. Only the game format have changed. U r still in England. The conditions have not changed. Some promising young talent like Samson shud have been tried in place of Kohli, Dhawan or Sharma. And now see what happened. Both kohli and Dhawan failed again.

    Selectors and captain, for the next game, please exclude these two from the playing eleven and bring in Samson and Rayudu instead.

  • Greatest_Game on August 27, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    Dhawan goes for 11, no surprise. Kohli goes for 0. No surprise. Normal service continues!

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:26 GMT

    It seems to me the panic button is on in the Indian dressing room. Gangulay and Wasim have been telling throughout the test series that India needs bowlers with express pace to get wickets in England and how does Dhoni oblige by going in with two tried and tested spinners who have done no good to the team. For heaven's sake do the right thing by bringing in pacers like Aron Yadav in the playing eleven.

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    Kohli gone...He want to shock Eng but instead shocked India....:(

  • Samuel-Drown on August 27, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    How on earth does Kohli keep getting a game? Are India's batting resources really that scarce?

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    India will be thrashed to 4-0 , india can never win in england or out side india for next 50 years ..

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:14 GMT

    Virat fails again. So Ravi could not do much for him. Who is coming to supervise Ravi Shastri now that Virat Nd Shikkar have failed again?

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:13 GMT

    Surprise no Umesh or karn. india going with jadeja who must be a very good friend of Dhoni as he keep him in the team. infact from under 19 there are many good spinners which can be very handy

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    So far winning the toss has not helped england in terms of wicket falling, some run control but it should worry no wickets fell so far.

    Just as I was typing dhawan fell. Good!

  • bablankalhan55_youtube on August 27, 2014, 9:45 GMT

    On seaming wicket,India goes in with two spinners,Binny or Yadav would have been handy.Atleast Karn Sharma should have been selected.Both Ashwin and Jadeja are proven flops outside Indian conditions .

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  • bablankalhan55_youtube on August 27, 2014, 9:45 GMT

    On seaming wicket,India goes in with two spinners,Binny or Yadav would have been handy.Atleast Karn Sharma should have been selected.Both Ashwin and Jadeja are proven flops outside Indian conditions .

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    So far winning the toss has not helped england in terms of wicket falling, some run control but it should worry no wickets fell so far.

    Just as I was typing dhawan fell. Good!

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:13 GMT

    Surprise no Umesh or karn. india going with jadeja who must be a very good friend of Dhoni as he keep him in the team. infact from under 19 there are many good spinners which can be very handy

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:14 GMT

    Virat fails again. So Ravi could not do much for him. Who is coming to supervise Ravi Shastri now that Virat Nd Shikkar have failed again?

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    India will be thrashed to 4-0 , india can never win in england or out side india for next 50 years ..

  • Samuel-Drown on August 27, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    How on earth does Kohli keep getting a game? Are India's batting resources really that scarce?

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    Kohli gone...He want to shock Eng but instead shocked India....:(

  • on August 27, 2014, 10:26 GMT

    It seems to me the panic button is on in the Indian dressing room. Gangulay and Wasim have been telling throughout the test series that India needs bowlers with express pace to get wickets in England and how does Dhoni oblige by going in with two tried and tested spinners who have done no good to the team. For heaven's sake do the right thing by bringing in pacers like Aron Yadav in the playing eleven.

  • Greatest_Game on August 27, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    Dhawan goes for 11, no surprise. Kohli goes for 0. No surprise. Normal service continues!

  • JermanSoldier on August 27, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    Why INDIA play the same batsmen who utterly failed to perform in the TEST matches..? Dhavan & Kohli especially. Only the game format have changed. U r still in England. The conditions have not changed. Some promising young talent like Samson shud have been tried in place of Kohli, Dhawan or Sharma. And now see what happened. Both kohli and Dhawan failed again.

    Selectors and captain, for the next game, please exclude these two from the playing eleven and bring in Samson and Rayudu instead.