England v New Zealand, 2nd NatWest ODI, Ageas Bowl June 2, 2013

Guptill's blazing 189 sees New Zealand clinch series

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New Zealand 359 for 3 (Guptill 189*, Taylor 60, Williamson 55) beat England 273 (Trott 109*) by 86 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

A record-breaking day from Martin Guptill earned New Zealand another one-day trophy on English soil with an 86-run victory at the Ageas Bowl. Less than 48 hours after leading his side home at Lord's, Guptill plundered New Zealand's highest individual one-day innings with a monumental, unbeaten 189 which left England shell-shocked and reflecting on their first home ODI series loss since 2009.

Guptill, who went past the previous individual mark of 172 by Lou Vincent against Zimbabwe during the penultimate over of the innings, provided more than half of New Zealand's overwhelming total of 359 for 3 - the second-highest conceded by England after the 387 for 5 in Rajkot in 2006. Agonisingly for England, like at Lord's, they offered him a life on 13, when Jonathan Trott - who later scored a 98-ball hundred - spilled a relatively straightforward catch at midwicket, although it proved more costly than anyone could have imagined.

The final 10 overs of New Zealand's innings were carnage, costing 132 runs, as Guptill and Brendon McCullum brought up their hundred stand - the third of the innings - in just 45 deliveries as England's bowling was scattered to all corners. Guptill's hundred had come off 111 deliveries; the final 44 balls of his stay brought 89 runs and six of the last seven deliveries he faced went for four.

He equalled Viv Richards' 189 at Old Trafford in 1984 as the highest innings against England in an ODI and Guptill's two hundreds in three days was also a repeat of the feat achieved by Mark Greatbatch, the only other New Zealand batsman to score a one-day ton in England, when he notched back-to-back landmarks in 1990.

Two partnerships formed the bedrock of the New Zealand innings which allowed the later onslaught: Guptill and Kane Williamson added 120 for the second wicket, then Ross Taylor joined in a third-wicket alliance worth 109 in 17 overs as the innings accelerated. Not that Taylor's departure slowed things down as Guptill and McCullum ensured mayhem in the closing overs.

Apart from James Anderson first spell, England's bowling was disappointing throughout, occasionally verging on woeful, albeit on the best batting surface of the international season so far, coupled with a lightning fast outfield. Jade Dernbach's 10-over spell for 87 was the fourth-most expensive return by an England bowler in an ODI.

Anderson, whose two scalps put him level with Darren Gough as England's leading ODI wicket-taker, made a deceptive early breakthrough for England by knocking back Luke Ronchi's middle stump to continue his lean start with the bat. Tim Bresnan, who is waiting on news of his heavily pregnant wife, was also economical with the new ball as England kept control during the first Powerplay; New Zealand were 36 for 1. It added further heady context to what happened during the rest of the innings.

Woakes, after suffering the dropped catch off his bowling for the second time in three days, sent down another expensive opening spell which cost 29 as New Zealand's second-wicket pair increased the tempo. Both Guptill and Williamson timed the ball beautifully square of the wicket particularly off the back foot.

Joe Root was the first spin option used by England and when Graeme Swann was introduced his first ball was crunched through cover by Guptill. They continued to milk him for a run-a-ball.

Williamson, who fell for a duck two days ago, completed an unfussy half-century off 59 balls, his tally of three fours highlighting the efficient running which kept the pressure firmly on England - a point hammered home when Guptill dismissively pulled Woakes for six off the front foot - before Williamson bottom-edged a pull off Swann into his stumps.

Taylor took time to play himself in; he used 28 balls to reach 21, then clubbed 39 off his next 26 deliveries which included two sixes, one from a full toss by Bresnan, then a second with a trademark bottom-hand flick against Anderson. He fell next ball attempting a repeat but the damage had only just started for England's bowlers.

With the quality of the pitch, speed of the outfield and new fielding restrictions it was not beyond the realms of possibility that England could have made a decent stab at creating history themselves. But, with the exception of Trott who made his fourth one-day hundred 13 balls quicker than it took Guptill, the top order continued in the wasteful vain they had shown at Lord's with four of the top five falling between 21 and 34.

Alastair Cook had collected five crisp boundaries before losing his middle stump to Kyle Mills; Ian Bell's frustrating season continued when he spliced a drive to mid-off; Root picked out long-on and Eoin Morgan, a player capable of matching the pyrotechnics of Guptill and McCullum, swiped across the line in Grant Elliott's first over to feather an edge to Ronchi.

Although the match was always under New Zealand's control during the chase, McCullum's proactive captaincy was again to be admired. Elliott taking a wicket in his first over owed plenty to good fortune, but it also needed the captain to delve into the options he had available and pace off the ball is rarely a bad ploy to England's middle order. Neither did he let the game drift, immediately recalling the sharp Mitchell McClenaghan when Morgan and Jos Buttler came to the crease; at Lord's the reward was Morgan's wicket, here Buttler drove McClenaghan's first ball back to short cover.

Trott, who received a huge cheer when he straight-drove James Franklin for his third six in ODIs, played the anchor role that he is made for but it was a forlorn effort as the strokemakers departed around him. Although this is their first home series defeat under Cook, with the Champions Trophy just days away there is much to ponder for England who are struggling to cover for the absence of Stuart Broad and Steven Finn and whose strengths appear somewhat nullified on flat pitches when the sun comes out. New Zealand, on the other hand, have looked a world away from the No. 8-ranked ODI side.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • dalboy12 on June 3, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    Great innings by Guptill, if only he could play like that in test cricket. For those who don't know here are Guptills last 14 innings in test cricket 2,16,53,7,11,13,4,11,1,0,1,48,1,3 --- maybe the secret to NZ batsman doing well in test cricket is that they seek to see if the ICC will let us play in coloured clothing - lol. That was a great innings by Guptill, and I was very impressed with Williamsom and Taylor as well. Cos, their partnership's with Guptill were not just block or smash. They worked ball around with lots of ones, twos and threes - playing risk free cricket. It was the best I have seen NZ play in that regard for a long time. That set them up for the big hits from McCullum and Guptill later on. England will be different with Broad. Finn, Pieterson back no doubt about it. Is it injury that is keeping Prior out of the team? Anyway great work NZ --- just drop Franklin for Southee for the next one and go for 3-0.

  • jackiethepen on June 2, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    No - the problem is needing 360. I think we have seen enough of 50 and 20 over cricket to know that sort of score usually means curtains for the side batting second. I've watched a few games - and that kind of scoreboard pressure will drive the best batsmen to take risks and then its carnage. All the batsmen did except Trott who played a very good innings which had no relationship to the game. Those who just follow individual stats never understand what is going on. All the other batsmen played in a similar way - accepting that they have to take risks. They won't win this game but they could win the next. As for the bowling - I never understood why Woakes and Dernbach were selected and said so right from the start. There are better bowlers and we better bring them in quick because Finn and Broad are always getting injured.

  • AKS286 on June 4, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    @JG2704 on (June 4, 2013, 9:25 GMT) Yes Fella I agree to you.L.Wright is good option in ODI than Woakes. IMO Dernbach will do good in tests. Tremlett, Anderson, Finn are good choice in CT and in Ashes too. Cook, Root, Trott, KP, Bell, Morgan, Wright/Bresnan, Swann, Finn, Tremlett, Jimmy.

  • on June 4, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    @wombats and Meety - the games I was talking about were ones played in India, I thought I made this clear by mentioning "home". Sorry for lack of clarity. I probably shouldn't be talking about India or Sachin in an England Vs NZ page, but sorry I just got sick of kiwirocker randomly bringing up Sachin on every comment he makes, and was rebuting him. It seems I got replies from almost every one else apart from him. Where is he hiding now.

  • JG2704 on June 4, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    @AKS286 on (June 4, 2013, 7:02 GMT) Not at all re Woakes. Some players are suited to shorter formats , some are suited to tests and some are suited to both. Woakes is not suited to the shorter formats but that does not mean he can't do well in tests

  • AKS286 on June 4, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    I think now JG2704 will understand why i'm not in favour of Woakes (batting & bowling all are not good enough for international level). Still DERNBACH this time no comments about HIM. no matter every new game has new start. POMS will bounce back. No problem this win boost kiwis & Poms will perform better in CT.

  • Irhs on June 4, 2013, 1:51 GMT

    What more does jade Dernbach have to do to convince the England selectors that he is not up to playing international cricket? If they persist in selecting him, might someone with a suspicious nature suspect corruption? Who knows, perhaps the selectors might be tempted to lay bets with sporting index as to which team can concede the most runs in the final 5 overs of each innings. Stranger things have happened....

  • Meety on June 4, 2013, 0:00 GMT

    @wonderstar1 on (June 3, 2013, 14:17 GMT) - no, Gupta actually said "at home" - yes he probably meant in India - but it is easily mistaken.

  • Divinetouch on June 3, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    5wombats you need to tidy up your reading skills. Forget partisanship and put more thought in your blogs. You seem to be easily irritated and lose your thought process.

  • Divinetouch on June 3, 2013, 22:36 GMT

    England crushed despite Trott being given two lives - twice he was mis-stumped yet no mention of this in the article but the one chance to Guptil by Trott harped upon.

    However, not surprising since is never beaten England they only lose.

  • dalboy12 on June 3, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    Great innings by Guptill, if only he could play like that in test cricket. For those who don't know here are Guptills last 14 innings in test cricket 2,16,53,7,11,13,4,11,1,0,1,48,1,3 --- maybe the secret to NZ batsman doing well in test cricket is that they seek to see if the ICC will let us play in coloured clothing - lol. That was a great innings by Guptill, and I was very impressed with Williamsom and Taylor as well. Cos, their partnership's with Guptill were not just block or smash. They worked ball around with lots of ones, twos and threes - playing risk free cricket. It was the best I have seen NZ play in that regard for a long time. That set them up for the big hits from McCullum and Guptill later on. England will be different with Broad. Finn, Pieterson back no doubt about it. Is it injury that is keeping Prior out of the team? Anyway great work NZ --- just drop Franklin for Southee for the next one and go for 3-0.

  • jackiethepen on June 2, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    No - the problem is needing 360. I think we have seen enough of 50 and 20 over cricket to know that sort of score usually means curtains for the side batting second. I've watched a few games - and that kind of scoreboard pressure will drive the best batsmen to take risks and then its carnage. All the batsmen did except Trott who played a very good innings which had no relationship to the game. Those who just follow individual stats never understand what is going on. All the other batsmen played in a similar way - accepting that they have to take risks. They won't win this game but they could win the next. As for the bowling - I never understood why Woakes and Dernbach were selected and said so right from the start. There are better bowlers and we better bring them in quick because Finn and Broad are always getting injured.

  • AKS286 on June 4, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    @JG2704 on (June 4, 2013, 9:25 GMT) Yes Fella I agree to you.L.Wright is good option in ODI than Woakes. IMO Dernbach will do good in tests. Tremlett, Anderson, Finn are good choice in CT and in Ashes too. Cook, Root, Trott, KP, Bell, Morgan, Wright/Bresnan, Swann, Finn, Tremlett, Jimmy.

  • on June 4, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    @wombats and Meety - the games I was talking about were ones played in India, I thought I made this clear by mentioning "home". Sorry for lack of clarity. I probably shouldn't be talking about India or Sachin in an England Vs NZ page, but sorry I just got sick of kiwirocker randomly bringing up Sachin on every comment he makes, and was rebuting him. It seems I got replies from almost every one else apart from him. Where is he hiding now.

  • JG2704 on June 4, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    @AKS286 on (June 4, 2013, 7:02 GMT) Not at all re Woakes. Some players are suited to shorter formats , some are suited to tests and some are suited to both. Woakes is not suited to the shorter formats but that does not mean he can't do well in tests

  • AKS286 on June 4, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    I think now JG2704 will understand why i'm not in favour of Woakes (batting & bowling all are not good enough for international level). Still DERNBACH this time no comments about HIM. no matter every new game has new start. POMS will bounce back. No problem this win boost kiwis & Poms will perform better in CT.

  • Irhs on June 4, 2013, 1:51 GMT

    What more does jade Dernbach have to do to convince the England selectors that he is not up to playing international cricket? If they persist in selecting him, might someone with a suspicious nature suspect corruption? Who knows, perhaps the selectors might be tempted to lay bets with sporting index as to which team can concede the most runs in the final 5 overs of each innings. Stranger things have happened....

  • Meety on June 4, 2013, 0:00 GMT

    @wonderstar1 on (June 3, 2013, 14:17 GMT) - no, Gupta actually said "at home" - yes he probably meant in India - but it is easily mistaken.

  • Divinetouch on June 3, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    5wombats you need to tidy up your reading skills. Forget partisanship and put more thought in your blogs. You seem to be easily irritated and lose your thought process.

  • Divinetouch on June 3, 2013, 22:36 GMT

    England crushed despite Trott being given two lives - twice he was mis-stumped yet no mention of this in the article but the one chance to Guptil by Trott harped upon.

    However, not surprising since is never beaten England they only lose.

  • r0ketman on June 3, 2013, 21:53 GMT

    @wonderstar1: "India never lost a ODI in india like this like eng even when australia were at their prime." Minor correction: India lost to Australia 4-2 on both series prior to the most recent one, in 2007 and 2009. In 2007 India lost by 84 runs in Kochi, followed by 9 wickets loss in Vadodara. I think losing by 84 runs and 9 wickets in the same series in pretty bad considering India was playing at home!:-)

  • craigm_NZ on June 3, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    Small technical error in the article. Mark Greatbatch and Martin Guptill are not the only NZers to score 2 ODI 100s in England - but they are the only ones to do so against England. Glenn Turner also scored 2 ODI 100s in England - in World Cups against East Africa and India.

  • on June 3, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Englad's problem is not that they send out test batsmen, they don't send out enough test bowlers.If cricketers succeed at test level they will almost certainly succeed in limited overs.Most England fans would have Broad and Finn in the side,and Pietersen-all proven at test level.Who do you suggest,USA_Res,should be our batters?

  • nzforever on June 3, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Well done NZ, that was the perfect template for a 50 over batting display. We still have issues though Franklin is now past it and a waste of a salary as a bowler/batsman & not a good option as 5th bowler I'd play Vettori if fit who will keep the run rate in check plusact as a reliable lower order batsman. Bracewell as we all know including most nz commentators is not a limited overs player & the selectors should have called up Matt Henry (our best performing fast bowler in nz ford trophy), Ronchi will come good and Ryder will return soon so the following I believe will be our best line up. 1. Guptill, 2 Ronchi, 3.Williamson, 4. Taylor, 5. Ryder, 6.McCullum, 7.Elliott 8.Vettori, 9.Southee 10.Henry 11.McClenagan. Mills or N.McCullum could come in for Elliott depending on conditions

  • king78787 on June 3, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    Shows you the value of Pietersen. Morgan is not a hitter, he is a finisher. He accerates at the end of the innings but does not provide big hits throughout. Another example is Dhoni- hits massive at the end of an innings but not at the beginning. Gayle- hits big whenever he wants. Pietersen hits, for me say goodbye Bell hello Pietersen.

  • Harmony111 on June 3, 2013, 14:48 GMT

    @5Wombats: Incredible, you don't even know the meaning of AT HOME???

    Ah it must be the lobotomy I guess. :-D

    Ok time for a basic test for you. Are England currently playing NZ --AT HOME-- or Away?

  • wonderstar1 on June 3, 2013, 14:17 GMT

    @5wombats.. you didnt read the comments posted by naman gupta? did you? he clearly said Ind beat Eng, aus,sa in India. not away. read properly before commenting. India never lost a ODI in india like this like eng even when australia were at their prime.

  • Erebus26 on June 3, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    As an England fan I'm wondering why the selectors are persisting with bowlers that are so painfully out of form. Lets be honest the pitch favoured the batsmen and bowlers were always going to go at five or even six an over, but even then the bowling of Dernbach and Woakes was painful to watch. Credit to NZ, they clinically dissected the bowling by taking on those two initially and finished by even heaving the likes of Anderson and Bresnan out of the ground. Dernbach might have the variety but he amazingly lacks a stock delivery, whilst Woakes' confidence looks shot. Jos Buttler has an excellent domestic limited overs record but needs to evaluate his technique at this level. Again I'm wondering why the selectors ruthlessly dumped Kieswetter for this lad so readily.

  • shane-oh on June 3, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    Golly Gee, how nice it would be to see some English fans concede they were completely outplayed by a much better team on the day...I suppose what we are seeing is the result of assuming NZ would be a walkover in all formats and using them as a warmup for the 'important ' matches.

  • 30-30-150 on June 3, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    @5wombats - He was right when he said India beat AUS, SA, ENG at home. He said "at home" not "away". India beat England 3-2 in 2013, 5-0 in 2011. India beat Australia 1-0 in 2010 (2 matches abandoned). India beat SA 2-1 in 2010. You need to read correctly before shouting facts. Cricinfo, publish please.

  • SherjilIslam on June 3, 2013, 11:20 GMT

    Had anybody noted, whenever Dernbach bowls a slower ball, the accuracy goes for a six and often that slower ball end up a wide down the leg side. I really hail English fans for tolerating the most expensive ODI bowler of world cricket at the moment match after match.

  • Englishmanabroad on June 3, 2013, 11:20 GMT

    I appreciate that Trott played a nice innings, but, when the required rate starts above 7, a strike rate of under 100 is just not good enough. His strike rate didnt reach 100 until his score got to ~95, and just like in the last test match, that is just not enough.

    England's problem is that they send out TEST batsmen into limited over cricket, and of course, they continue to waste there time with bowlers like Dernbach and Woakes.

    If you're faced with a near impossible task, then at least go for it. To quote a German variation, "better to die as a wolf than live like a dog"

  • A.Ak on June 3, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    The NZ Test series was irrelevant respect to Ashes. What a waste of time.

  • 5wombats on June 3, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    @Naman Gupta (June 3, 2013, 10:12 GMT) You are factually incorrect when you state; "India at least won against Aus, SA and England at home". When did India do that??? When I last looked India LOST 3-0 to England in England in the 2011 ODI series. India LOST against South Africa in South Africa in the most recent ODI series. India LOST in Australia in 2011/12. Get your facts straight and stop pretending that your marvellous India are winning all over the place when in fact they are LOSING. India also LOST 4 months ago at home to Pakistan 2-1, LOST 2-0 to Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe and LOST to Bangladesh in the Asia Cup. Or perhaps @Naman Gupta - perhaps you think India won all those games as well? Please publish this time.

  • Min2000 on June 3, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    @ Niraj Vashi - so NZL's batting was good but not great? What would have been a great score... 400? 450? What a ridiculous comment.

  • on June 3, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    @kiwirocker, and about saeed anwar's innings, India replied with 290+. So that wasn't flat strip. Also likes of steyn and morkel are better than Srinath, Prasad and kumble by the way.

  • kc69 on June 3, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Dedicated to all optimistic fans of other teams in Group A who think they can beat NZ and get through.

  • on June 3, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    @kiwirocker, and u are saying that this innings was on a greentop. And this is why England also replied with 280 odd. And woh Pakistan a top 4 side in Odi, after losing 5-0 in Australia, 3-2 in South Africa and England, 2-1 in dubai against Australia, 3-2 in UAE against South Africa, 4-0 in UAE against England and 3-1 in Sri Lanka. India atleast won against Aus, SA and England at home and won 4-1 in Sri Lanka. And u are saying Pakistan should be in top 4 and India shouldn't.

  • Hammond on June 3, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    One day cricket? Meh......

  • latecut_04 on June 3, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    The current Eng side is easily the best I have seen(started watching cricket during 90s)BUT hopefully they do not go about playing ODIs the way their predecessos like Atherton's team did.Rest of the world will only see this as a cae of sour grapes.Eng players of yester years always maintained that they did not consider shorter format seriously and only thing which mattered was Ashes and went about losing everything including Ashes,WC99 held in their own backyard etc.Ofcourse itsn't all gloom at all for England but failure to win ODI series even at home needs to be viewed seriously because i thoroughly enjopy a strrong English performance although I am in a kind of less populated club.(accumulating runs,playing yourself in,county trundlers filling the bowling slots,arm ball,offspin,KP's genius and the like..)and this is from India

  • JG2704 on June 3, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    @Martin Crowther on (June 2, 2013, 21:48 GMT) I'd still keep Jos in the side (maybe as a batsman) as I feel he is a special talent who has a bigger array of shots than anyone in this side. Always said Foster was the best WK/Batsman in the country.

    Re Trego. If he plays like he played for Somerset in 2011 or this season then I'd say that's a fair shout. But if he played like he did (batting) in part of 2012 (being over responsible) then I'd definitely say no. He'd need to have a free license and I wonder if he'll not play that way in the horrible red Eng colours. If Eng wanted to change the strategy and have a hitter at the top then Trego might not be a bad shout at all. My guess if they'd play him at 7 or below. Also I feel yesterday was one of those days when anyone would have gone for runs

  • JG2704 on June 3, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta on (June 2, 2013, 23:51 GMT) Buttler is an ODI/T20 specialist and is different to Root in that Root plays all forms well. If you have seen Buttler playing for Somerset in the shorter forms you will know what a talent he is and what a huge array of shots he has - check out his stats and SR etc. Yes he still has to do it for Eng but I'd stick with him. Prior has had many chances and has been found wanting in the shorter formats. I'm pretty sure a poster had already put this across but I guess if you chose to ignore the facts

  • JG2704 on June 3, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster on (June 3, 2013, 0:30 GMT) I and many cricket fans on here will be gutted that the all weather cricketing voice of reason deems England to be so poor

  • on June 3, 2013, 8:04 GMT

    Butlers ODI batting average is now down to 8.9 and that's after 11 games, shocking. England never, ever, look towards form players as if they did Darren Stevens and Daryl Mitchell would be in the squad.

  • Mitty2 on June 3, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    Well done to guptill on a seriously good innings. Now I know his limited overs record is far better than his test record but in the end you can't help but feeling that his talent is far too great for him to not succeed in tests... And for that reason I think he would have made a difference if he opened in the first test of the English leg... Unfortunately, fulton's tons were more of a product of the lack of seam and had been found out again, but still, this is retrospective and in no way would any selector drop either rutherford or fulton.

    England need to change up their top 3. Simple as that. They don't have KP for the CT so there's no insurance that any one will (reliably) come in and dominate and score quickly. Ian Bell, Trott and Cook all have good records of recent... But I get the gist that they're individually orientated and not acting on the requirements of every innings. Trott's century, off a strike rate of 100 in a 350 run chase is simply not good enough. Bring in Bairstow

  • Siva_Bala75 on June 3, 2013, 7:49 GMT

    England is a 1-2-3 team. One bowler, 2 batsmen and 3 fielders; the rest are all passengers.

  • SherjilIslam on June 3, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    Now it's official.England doesn't have in them to compete with good ODI sides.They rely heavily on KP,Anderson and Swan, once these guys under perform, England have no place to hide. BTW congrats to NZ and Guptill...brilliant inning and very well paced.

  • jmcilhinney on June 3, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    England are certainly not looking like CT favourtes at the moment, but all is not lost. Things likely would have been different here with Broad and Finn in the side and likely will be different when they return. It is a concern that there replacements did so poorly though. I don't think that you'll find many England fans who thought that Dernbach should have been selected in the first place but I am one of (I think) many who thought that trying Woakes was a good idea. The suggestion that he's a better with a red ball than white looks on the mark based on these two games though. I think that most would consider him a 5th bowler for England with a red ball anyway but he'll have to improve his accuracy significantly to get a regular ODI spot. If Broad and Finn are back for game 3 then presumably Woakes and Dernbach will miss out.

  • jmcilhinney on June 3, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    I have no issue with the way England went about their chase. I think that they did exactly the right thing. The problem is that they lost wickets, which was almost bound to happen if NZ bowled well, which they did. That was a mammoth total and it would be a rare thing for any team to chase that successfully. England needed more from at least one of Cook or Bell and they needed at least one of Morgan or Buttler to score big and be there at the end. It wasn't likely from the start. Dropping Guptill on 13 was obviously very costly. NZ would not have made nearly as big a score without him and may not even have made 300 if more wickets had fallen. He wasn't caught though, and NZ out-performed England in all facets of the game (except maybe wicket-keeping) and thoroughly deserved the game and the series win.

  • PrasPunter on June 3, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    @mar2000 , in a way, with the recent ODI rules, the ODIs have started to favor the batsmen more . Gone are the days were excellent classics like the WC99 semifinals between Aus and SA are possible, when more fielders were out of the ring. And now, you know what, 2 fielders outside the ring for 10 overs, 3 for 5 and 4 for the rest means that it has become easy to score nowadays. ODI's are fast loosing the sheen. And the less said about t20, the better. So the only thing that matters is performance in Tests. Eng does well with that and so they need not worry much about other things.

  • on June 3, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    The bowlers to blame 100%. Chasing 360 plus means batters just having a punt and hoping their luck lasts. Dernbach does nothing with the ball when required to bowl properly, and Woakes looks a long way short of international class. With so many great bowlers to choose from , having one with a"tricks" but no stock ball, and another who is neither quick enough or skilful enough is a liability that England do not need to endure.

  • sachin_vvsfan on June 3, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    OMG!! This is NZ vs ENG forum and as usual subcontinent fans(including KiwiRocker) are there at again.

    NZ yet again proved they cannot be taken lightly in ODIS.Remember they always outplay the top teams in knockout games and we might just see that in coming CT. Also the timing of this series should be questioned. Given that CT is happening in ENG and its priorities are in upcoming Tests then why Eng selectors decided to have a pointless ODI series just before the CT. Theres always the risk of injuries carrying to the tests.

    @KiwiRocker- I know you are a sachin basher but as i remember anwar scored that 194 in first innings with the help of a runner. So what pressure cooker situation are you talking about. Dont even talk about chennai crowd. you do know how they supported your team. If you have to talk about an innings better than sachin 200 then i can suggest one. Gibbs 175 (scored in second innings against Aus)

  • on June 3, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    NZ Batting was good but not Great. Bowling was not poor but very poor. Eng were in line for a chase but could neither save wickets nor hit boundaries. Eng can forget about Champions Trophy especially with new rules favoring big hitting.

  • srikanths on June 3, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    Guptill has always looked impressive when he strokes the ball but somehow in Tests has this habit of hanging his bat out to dry and gets out caught in the slips. I thunk it is a matter of confidence and tightening up a bit. Minor adjustments in batting and a bit of mental conditioning, he could become a really good bat for NZ

  • on June 3, 2013, 5:17 GMT

    OK , will someone tell me what in the world is wrong with ENGLISH conditions these days ? FLAT DECK IN ENGLAND ... thats disappointing to say the least

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on June 3, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    @garr on (June 3, 2013, 3:47 GMT) - 'This was a batting paradise against an English attack well short of its best' . Change it to ' against an English 'attack' ' Need we say any more ?? -:)

  • himanshu.team on June 3, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    The biggest problem with chasing big scores is that you lose focus from the next ball to be bowled. The scoreboard exerts too much pressure and causes a distraction. That is why; everyone wants to bat first on flat tracks. It is much easier said than done, but the chasing side must keep a cool head. In such conditions even getting a 100 of last ten is possible. So the targets must be broken down to something like 75 (for not more than one or two) in 15, around 110-125 in 20, 165-180 in 30 and around 240-250 in 40 overs with about 6-7 wickets still in hand. Say for e.g. if India did that then Dhoni, Raina etc. would have said to themselves that we can get 11-12 an over easily. Probably they would have wanted to get to 300 by 45th over or so. When you try to keep up with asking rate from ball one and lose patience when 2 or 3 good overs go by, you tend to put yourself in a great disadvantage. That is exactly what happened to England yesterday and can happen to any other side tomorrow.

  • realfan on June 3, 2013, 4:44 GMT

    @KiwiRocker : those innings you mention of jayasurya and anwar are nowhere near to sachin's innings against AUS in sharjah in a SANDSTORM.. 143 against aus in SANDSTORM helping india reach finals.....and i dnt have any problem with viv richards century, that remains all time best....

  • Aditya0460 on June 3, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    @Kiwirocker - Just want to remind you that have some respect for Sachin's 200. I think you were in a parallel universe when he hit that double ton. It was against THE BEST NO. 1 BOWLING ATTACK of South Africa where Steyn & co. were bowling. I don't think you have the knowledge to discuss about cricket.

  • pull_shot on June 3, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    @ KiwiRocker well u rate saeed anwar,jayasurya innings on same pitches high that too vs indian bowling where as tendulkar 200 vs steyn,morkel,kallis,parnel,botha as low. wow

  • on June 3, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    flat track in england...whats going on with england even they cant played in englands on a flat wicket :)

  • on June 3, 2013, 4:01 GMT

    Finaly Guptil deliever his potential into his batting , He has such gud talent

  • garr on June 3, 2013, 3:47 GMT

    Mr " kiwi rocker" you cite Anwar, jararusaya( pardon spellling) viv because of the scores and then claim important ties. Clive Lloyds 110 in a world cup final againstAustralia, S wWaugh's 120 albeit In a do or die round robin match against Sth Africa, , Ponting, 150 in a world cup final and the hundred by Ranatunga, deputy (name escapes me ) were all more significant innings with world cups on the line. I haven't entioned Gilchrist because big ties are world cups and the aforementioned players all proved themselves world class players for years, bravo to Guptilll but to deem him in the same league as any of your named or mine is inane and an insult to players who are / were greats of the game.. This was a batting paradise against an English attack well short of its best.

  • on June 3, 2013, 3:45 GMT

    Only KP can win these kind of matches for England !! Without him the English team looks pale !!!

  • on June 3, 2013, 2:43 GMT

    Well congratulations to Guptill but that was not great for England, I think going forward it clear that there is no place in this team for Woakes and Dernbach. If I ever see "Dernbach -slower ball, Four" again I'll scream. Hopefully if Finn and Broad replace those two we'll be in better shape for the CT. Buttlers being picked on promise but 54 runs from 8 innings suggests that we might want to give him a bit more time to develop in county cricket. Give the gloves to Bairstow. Also I'd want Tredwell on speed dial.

  • KiwiRocker- on June 3, 2013, 2:39 GMT

    New Zealand are doing an excellent job in T20 and ODI cricket. NZ does not have a huge depth of talent but have some genuine match winner likes Guptil, Taylor and Mcallum so without a doubt they are definitely among top four ODI teams. ICC rankings are a farce and make no sense to anyone. Pakistan and NZ are ranked far below their form and performance. SA, Pak, NZ and Australia are the top four ODI teams and no one really cares about rankings. Guptil has once again shown they he is emerging as one of the best in the business. This innings from Guptil should be ranked along side Saeed Anwar's 194 in India against India in a pressure cooker match, Richard's wonderful 189 against England battling with no.11 batsman and Sanath JaySuriya's 189 against India destroying Indian bowling in a very important tie against India. These are the top three innings without a doubt! Sehwag and Tendulya's so called double centuries on flat pan cake pitches at home really are not anything of note!

  • Jonathan_E on June 3, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    Dernbach had an average of 39 and conceded runs at nearly 7 an over, BEFORE today. Why is he ever in the team?

    He isn't good enough even in county cricket to justify being selected internationally. What has he ever even done in county matches?

  • Jayzuz on June 3, 2013, 2:03 GMT

    England have had success in ODIs in the last couple of years by putting together a team for English conditions. Steady batsmen and seamers who move it about. But when there is no juice in the pitch or the air, they are left - ahem - high and dry. The same thing happened on the last Australian tour when the summer started off with horrendous weather for the Ashes, then dried out in the second half of the tour, and England's bowlers got smashed, losing 6-1. Then when Australia did their two week off-season stint to Eng last year, it rained incessantly, and England cruised to 4-0 victory. When the Lions toured AUS recently they were met with blue skies and lost 7-0 (& that tour showed clearly that England's domestic cricket is not the zenith of cricket quality, as some Poms maintain). In short, if Broad and Finn come back and the weather is crappy, England will have a decent shot at the CT.

  • on June 3, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    Hearing so much from England fans about how different the game would be with KP, Finn, and Broad, and that England wouldn't go into any "important" ODI with that bowling line-up, all attributing the loss to Eng not having it's strongest side instead of giving credit where its due. Do you really think Bracewell, McClenaghan, Franklin, Elliot, McCullum and Mills is NZ's strongest bowling line-up? To refresh any memories that may have drawn blanks; Boult and Southee were the bowlers not too long ago giving England a hard time in their beloved test arena.

  • mjp2 on June 3, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    Wonderful relatively risk free batting to begin and then explosive towards the end, and a great series win to savour.

    But England without Prior, Finn, Broad, on a flat pitch and with no real help from overhead conditions - NZ have the attacking game to prosper against less harmful attacks in easier batting conditions. And they have the fight, fielding and nagging bowling to defend a good score. But they are the same side that can regularly fold for sub 100 against strong test attacks, with a slip and gully cordon of six behind them and with a pitch that is a more even contest between bat and ball.

    Loved it, just not sure that much has changed.

  • balajik1968 on June 3, 2013, 1:26 GMT

    The way Guptill paced his innings was excellent. What was also great was the way, the Kiwis played around him, contributing 155 runs to his 189. I don't understand this thing about England not having other players; you play the hand you get. Testerday I saw some of the sloppiest fielding by England in a long time. That said, Eoin Morgan should have played higher than he did. He could have had better impact with a harder ball and relatively quicker bowlers. By the time he came in, New Zealand were taking the pace off the ball and starting to control the game. A few big hits with the harder ball, milk the middle overs and start the charge from over 35 would have been a good plan. Instead England played at more or less the same tempo.

  • Showbags88 on June 3, 2013, 1:24 GMT

    England are going to be in a whole heap of trouble once Anderson, Swann, Trott and Pietersen retire in a few years time. Not much depth there to speak of especially in the bowling department.

  • Dark.Matter on June 3, 2013, 1:07 GMT

    NZ are slowly but surely getting better and better.......win in SA, and now in ENG

  • Sinhaya on June 3, 2013, 1:02 GMT

    Congratulations and brilliant batting by Martin Guptill. Had he accelerated a bit earlier he may have gone past 200. No doubt great to see a Kiwi being the 4th on par with Sanath Jayasuriya for the 4th highest individual ODI score. Just also shows the massive light year difference between tests and ODIs where NZ lost the tests 2-0 in SA last year but won the ODIs 2-1 when it should have been 3-0 if not for last over heroics by SA. On this tour too NZ lost 2-0 in the tests but unbeaten in the ODIs. Great to see NZ winning 2 consecutive away ODI series in simple terms. Hopefully NZ improves in tests too but their test batting is of concern. Congratulations NZ once again.

  • on June 3, 2013, 0:57 GMT

    This could be a blessing in disguise for England. They will make sure that they'll beat NZ in the ICC trophy.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 3, 2013, 0:30 GMT

    Honestly, I am not surprised at this result. England are a mediocre team in ODIs. I don't rate them any higher than Bangladesh or Zimbabwe honestly. NZ just showed them how to play one day cricket in their own backyard. England thought they could turn up and win. Wrong move ! It takes more than 11 dressed in coloured clothing to beat the Black Caps who have always punched above their weight. After my favourite INDIA, I support NZ followed closely by SA. I am as pleased at this result as any Kiwi supporter.

  • on June 3, 2013, 0:23 GMT

    Well Done Guys! BUT it still doesn't come close to wiping out the shame of being smashed in the Tests.

  • on June 3, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    Another bad start from Ronchi. NZ is missing Rutherford, while e's out east. Will he be back for Champions' trophy?

  • on June 2, 2013, 23:51 GMT

    Once KP, Broad & Finn are back in the England Team, it will be a "different" one. Everyone used to talk about Joe Root and Jos Buttler in the same breath; Root is proving to be a better and classier player and a good one to invest in. As a WK-batsman Prior is still far ahead of all the so called emerging "explosive" potential replacements. Prior, though much older also infuses more energy into the whole team.

    Congratulations to Martin Guptil for two consecutive fantastic innings. The beauty is that one was in chasing a big total and the other in setting one. That is class; not just the visual appeal alone. In visual appeal also he isn't that bad.

  • Meety on June 2, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    Not many Pom fans here, but plenty ready to do some knocking. I seriously doubt England will be going into an important ODI with a bowling line up that includes Bresnan, Woakes & Dernbach in the same side. That said, NZ's total was quite amazing. Englands biggest problem is the sameness about their bowling. They have a reasonable line up if it was ODIs circa 2003 (pre-20/20), but in the modern ODI game, it only takes 5 overs for a batting team to take momentum, & in 20/20 you generally only survive with variety. Sides will try to get to the 30th over with few wickets down & look to score 200 runs off the last 20. England will be okay IF, they take plenty of top order wickets early (say 3 in the first 10 overs) - otherwise, you will see batsmen doing a Guptil later in the innings. Swann ends up being Englands everything man after 20 overs. He is responsible for taking wickets, adding variety & keeping the scoring down - I think it will be harder to do with a harder ball from now on!

  • Chris_P on June 2, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    This is still a warm up game prior to the WC & 2 things to consider. England didn't have their strongest side in & NZ did manage to beat the South Africans in their own back yard so they are far from being the "easybeats" some people are painting them up to be. Credit where it is due, a thoroughly well constructed performance by the black caps.

  • Kakariki on June 2, 2013, 23:02 GMT

    New Zealand are NOW the 7th ranked side, and England now 4th.

  • PACERONE on June 2, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    When Jessie Ryder returns to this side they will get better in all forms of the game.Imagine Ryder on this wicket against this English bowling attack.Get back soon Jessie!!!..Love to watch you bat.

  • gothetaniwha on June 2, 2013, 22:38 GMT

    Congrats Guppy super knock , right beside my favourite player Sir Viv Richards on the list , can't understand ranking system seems to be wrong or slanted towards the big guns SA AUS ENG and INDIA .after all NZ have beaten SA and ENG who were ranked 1 and 2 in there own country this year .

  • PACERONE on June 2, 2013, 22:32 GMT

    Eoin Morgan and KP are the only batsmen capable of dominating in ODI's.The others depend on the bowling and fielding been poor to produce.The English bowling in all facets of the game depends on what the conditions are...and they have to be favorable to bowling.Great fast bowlers are capable of getting wickets on all types of wickets and in all conditions.A lot of talk about the Duke ball...next they will want to use it wherever they play.Holding demolished England on a wicket that was dead..most of the victims were either bowled or LBW.English bowlers are over-rated..including Swann.Willliamson gave his wicket away today.

  • The_bowlers_Holding on June 2, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    Well I for one have been calling for Woakes, in retrospect maybe not same for Buttler and as for Dernbach I am not sure what he has to do to be dropped. Prior to this series we were told it had not bearing on CT but now it has, unsuprisingly I suppose. I hope England can give a better show in the last ODU and in the CT to gain some momentum prior to the real business of the summer, and well played New Zealand better batting and fielding for sure.

  • on June 2, 2013, 21:48 GMT

    The England team should be...

    Cook Bell(for the time being) Pietersen Trott Root Foster(wkt) Trego/Bresnan Swann(as he offers more with the bat than Tredwell) Finn Broad Anderson

    Morgan at this point would get dropped due to real poor form both from shot selection and temperament. In ODI cricket you need the best gloveman you can get as every run counts. James foster is the best keeper in country by a country mile. Prior is a better batsman but in ODI cricket when you have to look go after the bowling Prior struggles heavily where foster can offer lower good lower order hitting. Trott I would use a floating batsman who plays a similiar role as Badrinath for the Chenai superkings comes in early if England are struggling etc. Thinking outside the box Peter Trego as he is a strong hitter of a ball and bowls well at the death in Limited over games something where England lack. Bopara would be a back up batsman with Bairstow in a squad based on Morgan's current form.

  • on June 2, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    well england continue to show they are a one man bowling attk, a one man batting line up and all the depth of a toddlers paddling pool, they couldnt pay their way out of the group stages at the CT

  • cloudmess on June 2, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    I still think deep down England view limited overs cricket as a hit and giggle. They had a psychological hold over NZ a week ago, but then they change formats, and treat the 50 overs as a kind of test trial for up and coming players. In 2 innings, Guptill has scored more runs than the entire NZ team were managing in a whole test match.

  • on June 2, 2013, 21:25 GMT

    Both England and New Zealand have problems with their 5th bowler which is needed in limited overs cricket. England have Chris Woakes and New Zealand have James Franklin both of which I (A amateur batsmen at best) would fancy facing. Both Woakes and Franklin dont bowl quick enough and dont have enough consistency in line and length. Both when bowling need the keeper standing up to the stumps. Regretably for England Butler is not a good enough keeper to take on that challenge. Based on the squad England have for the champions trophy they either need to use Swann(My preference),Bresnan or Broad to bat at 7. Butler needs to make way for Bairstow as Keeper. New Zeland could drop either Elliott or Ronchi to allow another bowler if Williamson cant bowl 10 overs which would be a big gamble. England need to drop Dernbach as he is too expensive and have not control of line or length. England for this competition should have called up James Foster as keeper as he is the best english keeper.

  • on June 2, 2013, 21:24 GMT

    How NZ can be ranked 9th in the world still after beating both SA and ENG is anyones guess. I think the ranking system in cricket is a bit odd. Though i just checked and we are 7th now. Well done boys!

  • JG2704 on June 2, 2013, 21:15 GMT

    Re England , I suppose the 1 good thing is that we are missing Finn and Broad but the way the reliable Swann was carted around you'd think they'd have received similar treatment. I only saw the highlights but again I wonder if Cook's captaincy was a little negative. I saw several edges going through the 1st slip area but for Eng to win they realistically needed a big score from Morgan,Buttler or Root. In the 1st game the bowlers were left with too much to do and in this game it was the batsmen. Would like to see Tredwell get a run out in the next game. If Broad and Finn are back it might be a time to try a 2 man spin attack. Swann went for 6 an over but when the team went for over 7 , maybe it wasn't so bad

  • SDCLFC on June 2, 2013, 21:15 GMT

    Think Cook's kidding himself when he says they bowled well up until over 42. By then everything was in our favour to get to 340+. The game may be different today but what I saw missing was the middle period stranglers who bowl stump to stump and needle out wickets. Dernbach is laughable.

  • Midonoff on June 2, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    England supose to be the favorites for the Champion Trophy right?

  • mikey76 on June 2, 2013, 21:02 GMT

    Surely to goodness that useless pie chucker Dernbach should be disposed of. What an absolute waste of space. The selectors obviously don't watch cricket and have missed the plethora of bowling talent knocking around the county circuit. Chris Jordan anyone? Been taking five- fors for fun and can give the ball a whack too. Reece Topley, a perfect replacement for Finn and a left armer to boot. You could throw Tremlett, TRJ and Harris into the mix too, but no we stick with that buffoon who goes at 8 an over! One has to ask what the selectors actually do?

  • JG2704 on June 2, 2013, 21:01 GMT

    @Rally_Windies on (June 2, 2013, 18:06 GMT) Not even going to read most of the comms as I know what most of them will say. When England were number 1 in the 1st set of T20 rankings , I believe their form was excellent and they were the T20 WC holders - you may remember it as WI hosted it?, Whoever they gave the number 1 ranking to was going to be controversial , so is it really laughable to give it to the (then) world champions?

    England are being whipped by NZ , there's no getting away from that but since they were annihilated by India (think it was back end of 2011) this will be only the 2nd ODI series we've lost - the other in India so no shame in that result.

  • IAS2009 on June 2, 2013, 21:01 GMT

    the top of the order of england is too slow, Trott and Cook in first 4 is not good they need a clean hitter at top also, In England where ball will be swinging Trott and Cook are safe bet, but pitch like this they need to tinker the batting order. when you concede 360, match is over by all means. England bowling was poor, i am not sure why Dernbach keep playing for England he is so predictable and i am sure his stats shown it by now, there were not many boundaries in England inning either, no clean hitting, the only way England could've won if E Morgan played a longer inning, when he got out the match was over, no one could hit cleanly in England inning.

  • sanjaycrickfan on June 2, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    England is a very poor ODI unit.

  • kiwicricketnut on June 2, 2013, 20:47 GMT

    what a great day to be a nz cricket fan, real hope for the champions trophy. england you have a bit of a problem, most of your fans here think the bowling is hopeless and it was today but wont be when finn and broad come back so some concern there about your back up bowlers but your front liners are top draw. i think your problem is your batting, our batters have ugly techniques at times but they are explosive and hurt teams when they get in, more so when ryder comes back, only williamson bats like your boys, you need a couple more guys like morgan who if he gets going is very hard to stop, even trott who played beautifully never took the game away, you miss kp and you need a couple more like him. thats your problem dont get me started on ours ill be here all day but today im just going to enjoy a great days cricket

  • hhillbumper on June 2, 2013, 20:44 GMT

    you have to hand it to them.Despite the fact it is June but still the England bowlers bowl like its april fools day.Please if there is a God no more Dernbach

  • Jadejafan on June 2, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    England are an ordinary team in ODIs. Losing to weak teams in ODIs like New Zealand, Bangladesh, Ireland etc in the last few years. New Zealand played really well especially for a country with a population of only 5 million. The England team has not only English players but South African and Irish like Trott and Morgan but still lost the series :) New Zealand must not not underestimated in the ICC Trophy and history tells us they usually make it to the semi-finals in International tournaments and have a funny feeling they will do really well good luck!

  • passionatecricbug on June 2, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    @ aniruddha singh, and he started vomiting on the pitch, like that was cool hunh

  • Cricket24 on June 2, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    @indiarox4ever- Agreed thatEngland rnt the best side, but have to disagree with you a bit. Cook is a good bat and root still has a long way to go and has promising signs. Both are England born and Anderson is very good too.

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on June 2, 2013, 20:01 GMT

    Well played Black Caps , we were completely outplayed and outclassed today ( and at Lords ) - i think you could say we've been ' owned ' , as they say ! Well played.

  • on June 2, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    Proud Kiwi. Just when people write us off, up we pop with an upset. We've got some good players, all we need is for 3 or 4 of them to really come off in any one game and we are competitive...

  • on June 2, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    Cook needs to be more inventive and the team needs cohesion.I think England has not a match maker.The top order has no plan and I fear for them when they play the thinking sides in thr CT.The bowling is ordinary except for Awesome Andy.Mr Flower you are dithering in the fens when you should be exploring new oceans.

  • 2nd_Slip on June 2, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    No train smash NZ did after all beat SA in ODIs earlier this year

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on June 2, 2013, 19:28 GMT

    England simply blown away by NZ's batting today. Great stuff from Guptil. I knew England didn't stand a chance after Boycott said "England have nothing to fear from NZ's bowlers..." Errrr, heard of Mills GB?

  • on June 2, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    @Gagg Guptill can't play spin that well that considerably reduced his chances of getting IPL contract... although good player overall

  • jackthelad on June 2, 2013, 19:12 GMT

    England's problem is that they are playing with two international-classs bowlers - that's all.

  • Shan156 on June 2, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    @indiarox4ever, wonderful post. That mediocre player Cook scored 3 consecutive 100s in India as Eng. won the test series. Another mediocre player Swann, in the same series picked up 20 wickets at an excellent average. But, they do not count as they were achieved against India. Think how bad India must be if these mediocre players managed such feats.

    @Rally_Windies, we were the T20 champions in 2010. This is Eng's first ODI series defeat at home since 2009, we also won ODI series in NZ (just 3 months back), WI, SL, SA, and UAE. Pretty good record, I would say. Definitely better than what the Windies have managed in the last few years. Windies are the laughing stock of world cricket now. One T20 WC win does not make you a great team. What is your record otherwise? The less said about your test record the better. When was the last time you won a test in Eng? 2000, wasn't it?

  • Jaffa79 on June 2, 2013, 19:08 GMT

    Very poor performance from England but let us not take anything away from NZ who proved again what a good ODI team they are. After beating Eng at home and SA at home, they should be serious contenders for the CT. Eng on the other had looked lethargic in the field and toothless with the ball. Dernbach and Woakes both look below international class and should be jettisoned. I'd certainly look to bring in Tredwell, even if the pitch doesn't turn as he never lets England down. Cook's captaincy once again looked pedestrian as he let the game drift; why did Root only bowl 3 overs whilst Dernbach continued to get flogged? He needs to be more flexible and innovative.

  • mar2000 on June 2, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    It look like the IPL T20 has brought "new life" to the 50 over game . For quite sometime I made comment that the 50 over game was "boring' in the middle overs ,and pick up again in the last 10 overs . thanks to the T20 game , the batsmen are carrying on in grand style . In order to be safe in this champion Trophy , the team batting first must post a total of 300 plus in order to feel safe .

  • yorkshirematt on June 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @indiarox4ever I wouldn't even put trott in that bracket with Pietersen. Rooty will be, but he's not english either he's a yorkshireman

  • wrenx on June 2, 2013, 18:53 GMT

    England's home ODI record isn't nearly as impressive as they like to pretend. The Pakistan tour was mired in controversy, and the umpires made HIGHLY contentious calls against Umar Gul to hand England the advantage in the deciding ODIs. England held their nerve to edge Sri Lanka, yes, no doubt about that. They took generous advantage of Duckworth Lewis to beat India. One no-result saved them from losing the series to South Africa. I'd only count beating Sri Lanka and WI in the last few years. The rest of the time England have been average at home

  • yorkshirematt on June 2, 2013, 18:53 GMT

    Is it too late for eng to pull out of this Champions Trophy thing, and give ban a go instead?. Didn't watch either game but even from reading reports I can see that this has to be one of the worst England one day teams ever assemble,d and that's saying something.

  • PanGlupek on June 2, 2013, 18:43 GMT

    "Jade Dernbach's 10-over spell for 87 was the fourth-most expensive return by an England bowler in an ODI." Really? Bit surprised it isn't top, to be honest.

  • jonesy2 on June 2, 2013, 18:42 GMT

    not a surprise at the match England are the worst team in the champions trophy, lucky to be in it actually surely Bangladesh or Ireland would fancy themselves as better than England? I guess all Irelands players are in the England squad. brilliant from guptill, absolutely amazing, took them apart and put on a clinic of these no England batsman will ever be able to do.

  • BRUTALANALYST on June 2, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    England lack a power hitter in the top 3 this is going to hurt especially on slow tracks when the ball does not come on, Michael Carberry should be opening. With Carbs and KP in top 4 and Broad/Finn back they become a real force to reckon with in the ODI format.

  • jb633 on June 2, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    It must be time for the selectors to get the axe out. How many chances are we going to give to Dernbach and Woakes is dreadful in ODI cricket. I am not surprised we have copped a hiding here as this side is so poor. I would far rather play 2 spinners than persist with a seam attack devoid of pace, intelligence and control. If the sun shines I think IND/SA/WI will be the danger sides in this champions trophy and I can't even see us competing in the big games. Well done to NZ they have deserved to stuff us out of sight.

  • on June 2, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    Batting paradise wasn't it? Well done NZ.

    @Mani Moon@Sipun - "Dont insult nehra. you forgot that he won india matches against england in 2003 worldcup and semi final against pakistan in 2011 WC"

    Agreed. Also Dernbach probably gets the toughest overs + he doesnt bowl that well. Anderson conceded nearly 40 in his last 3, too.

  • on June 2, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    wow! wow! wow! i'm the biggest fan of NZ. no doubt it is a big big gift for me and oh!! what a glorious innings from M G. NZ playing really excellent for last few month, beaten SA in SA and now ENG in ENG wow! so nice i feel proud about them. they will do something massive in chmps trophy too. keep it up guys ....

  • on June 2, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    Soaked not an international all rounder and as for feedback how many chances will he get batting no where good enough either, all in all don't bother playing the format as we never learn.

  • Herbet on June 2, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    Can we please please please stop picking Jade Dernbach now, please. Batsmen can read his slower balls, and his stock balls are smashable dross. Woakes looks like a red ball bowler if ever I have seen one, his outswinging half volleys are easy pickings too. From the games I have seen, Sri Lanka v India and the two NZ odi's, England seem to be playing a different game, something that wouldn't have looked out of place at the World Cup... in 1979. Still we have Broad and Finn to come back, but I am getting a bit concerned that Jos Buttler still has done nothing of note in an odi yet.

  • indiarox4ever on June 2, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    If you remove all mediocre players from the English team team you will have only Petersen and Trott left..........both south africans

  • on June 2, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    Hi Andrew, The 387/5 conceded against INDIA by english men was in 2008-09 series. it was ofcourse in Rajkot, but in 2008.

  • Surajdon9 on June 2, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    well played Marti!!!!!!!!!!

  • nlpdave on June 2, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    I think in the last match England need to be brave and move away from a failing formula. Clearly open with Root and bring in Bairstow but we also need that mix of wicket to wicket, always threatening the stumps with constant varying pace kind of bowler as in Bopara, Stevens, Mascarenas. Best of all is a bowler who always threatens the stumps with LBW and bowled, the leg spinner Rashid. I would go with two who can start and finish then spin with Rashid, Tredwell and probably a Stevens or Bopara (as a bowler). Up front probably Anderson and Broad/Onions. Swann isn't that same force in one day stuff as he pitches outside the line and can be nullified or tonked without too much risk but, if the bowler pitches on line and straightens it he is much more threatening.

  • Rally_Windies on June 2, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    30 years later --- and since the invention of limited overs cricket .... England is still clueless ....

    Test Cricket is England's forte ....

    50- over and 20/20 ---- not so much....

    the way the system was gerrymandered to make England world # 1 in 20/20 when the ranking system was extended to include 20/20 was Laughable .....

  • salahkar on June 2, 2013, 18:05 GMT

    england's problem is their top-order. all in form and nice cricketers. but problem is their strike rate 74, 78,75. they can't pace innings well. so they r missing KP

  • PadMarley on June 2, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    Had a look at individual innings with more than 150. Tendulkar has done it 5 times and Jayasuriya 4 times. The top two! Gayle might add one or two more to his tally..

  • StevieS on June 2, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    Why Guptill never got a IPL contract is anybodies guess, if he was Australian or South African he would have gotten big dollars. Before anyone looks he averages 35 in 20/20 internationals and was the number 1 ranked 20/20 batsman a few years ago

  • on June 2, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    @Sipun Sahoo Nehra Gives at most 50-60 Runs in 10 overs .. But Dernbach Gave 27 Runs More..

  • Narkovian on June 2, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    Drop Dernbach.. NOW Drop Buttler.. get Prior in NOW. Why Prior doesn't play only Andy Flower knows !! Drop Bresnan. His bowling is adequate, he has become a buffoon with the bat. Get Bairstow in... probably at expense of Morgan, who seems to have lost his mojo. That's my verdict.

  • RednWhiteArmy on June 2, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    Superb innings by Guptil. NZ have had longer than most teams to get used to conditions in England & they are real contenders for the Champions Trophy. As far as England go, Dernbach can dissapear, batsmen have figured your "slower ball per minute" bowling out. For the CT England should (but wont) take a bold decision of playing Swann & Tredwell togeather, along with Anderson, Broad/Finn & Bresnan. Also Prior in as keeper & he bats at 3 with Trott at 4 to break up Cook & Trott.

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on June 2, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    england still below average team in odi's. They satisfied with test performances, unless drastic changes in attitude towards odi at top level management, they will never going to make it.

  • samincolumbia on June 2, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    The "English" team are favorites for the Champions Trophy since they have never won a multi-tournament event in the history of cricket!!

  • bobmartin on June 2, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    Well done NZ.. a thoroughy convincing and well deserved victory and series win... Having said that, let's not blame the players...because they didn't select themselves. I refuse to believe that we do not have enough quality players in this country to beat a team rated 6 places below us. Therefore the blame lies fair and square on the shoulders of the selectors... If they were managing a first division football team they'd be out on their ear.... It's a disgrace... They either under-estimated the opposition, which is fatal in any sport, or they over-rated the players they selected, which is flawed decision making. Either way it points to something wrong in the management department, and they should be shouldering the blame.

  • PACERONE on June 2, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    The playing conditions were not in England's favor.The great Anderson needs help from either the conditions or the ball.I am surprised they did not try to get the ball changed.As for the batsmen...without Peitersen they are not that fearsome.Them complaining about the 4 called when Trott made the great save...they got away with a no-ball,so they owe NZ an extra ball,which we now know would of been dispatched for either 4 or 6.

  • thekaz on June 2, 2013, 17:50 GMT

    Need to get Hales in for Bell. The top 3 don't have the power hitting between them, Hales is the future of England Limited overs side, along with Buttler. I know he hasnt scored any runs yet, but if you have watched any England first class cricket you will know this guy is special. I just hope they persist with him, as soon as he settles he will be a top hitter in world cricket.

  • Srini_Indian on June 2, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    @Greatest_Game : Whatever it is, England got a royal thrashing at the hands of #8 NZ in your own backyard. So much for the favorites in Champions trophy. Even with 2 new balls, only 4 fielders outside the ring to kill the spinners, England still don't stand a chance. I'm loving this.

  • on June 2, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    ENG should consider alex hales as odi opener..he is an exciting player...

  • TenDonebyaShooter on June 2, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    @Sunshine_Pom: Personally I've never heard anyone "hyoing" anyone

  • Jadejafan on June 2, 2013, 17:38 GMT

    @Adnan - Yes! Nasir Hossain, Umar Akmal, Kane Williamson and Darren Bravo are much better and has so much potential :) ;)

  • FredJ000 on June 2, 2013, 17:33 GMT

    Too many mediocre players.

    Get rid of dernbach. He's too expensive and i hate the way he prances around with his shirt open.

    Bairstow should play. He's attacking, has the strike rate and can also keep wicket. Better than Buttler or Kieswetter surely?

    Onions should play if Broad and AFinn are still out. Tredwell would also be a good choice. Why so much pace, the key is ECON and Tredwell would easily be cheaper than Dernbach or Woakes.

    Trott could open or ROOT as a precursor to his eventual role there in the Test side

  • on June 2, 2013, 17:26 GMT

    @Sipun - Dont insult nehra. you forgot that he won india matches against england in 2003 worldcup and semi final against pakistan in 2011 Wc.

  • on June 2, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    indian bowler ashish nehra = jade dernbach .... am i ryt guys

  • Sunshine_Pom on June 2, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    RandyOZ - So the sour look on Jimmy Anderson's face has made your day?. That's how I'm going to feel in when I see Michael Clarke's face after we whitewash you in the summer.

  • Sunshine_Pom on June 2, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    Cricket_is_Unpopular - I am yet to see or hear any English fans "hyoing" Jos Buttler. Not quite sure where you've got that from.

  • Tamimfan on June 2, 2013, 16:33 GMT

    @Jadejafan.. nasir hossain is better than joe root.. right? :P

  • ScottStevo on June 2, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    @FFL, You'd expect them to...but clearly they're nowhere near the side you think they are. What's also clear to see is that without a bowler or 2 and 1 batsman, this England side are decidedly average.Woakes - "the future" - not looking so bright!!The term bare cupboard comes to mind! Not to take away from the fact that NZ are a strong ODI side and they're making light work of this ODI series so far...and from here (Eng 181-5) I'd expect them to complete a second win with relative ease.

  • Captainman on June 2, 2013, 16:19 GMT

    I use to hear 'English' fans hyping about this 'Butler' guy. A guy that averages less than 10 in his ODI career thus far :)

  • Sunshine_Pom on June 2, 2013, 16:18 GMT

    We deserve to lose simply for selecting Jonathan Trott. What a truly turgid batsman he is.

  • Captainman on June 2, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    I remember last year England were ranked 1 in ODIs but then I'd realised that was because they played far more matches than any other team.

  • Jadejafan on June 2, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    Joe Root is an average player. There are much better young players than him.

  • Greatest_Game on June 2, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    @ gsingh7 wrote" England will lose by about 220 runs.. " Hmmm… as I write its the end of over 25 & Eng need the massive total of 6 runs to beat gsingh7's confident prediction. I have a strong feeling that they will make that, plus a few more. Given the stunning inaccuracy of his predictive powers, it looks like Eng are favorites to take this game - a tough ask at this point - as well as to take the series. Poms can cheer now bit - maybe even pop down to Ladbrokes?

  • Shan156 on June 2, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    Well played Guptill, again. Looks like McCullum is back to form too. Dernbach? the less said the better although he wasn't the only culprit today.

    @maddy20, surely NZ are a much better side than India (in Eng.) who failed to win a single test, ODI, or T20 in their last tour here. Contrast that to our performance in India where we won the test series, drew the T20 and only lost the ODI series but won 2 games. We won the test series in Eng., the ODI and T20 series in NZ and drew the test series in NZ. NZ have played well to (almost) win the ODI series here. Considering they will be the first team since NZ in 2008 to win a ODI series in Eng, you know they enjoy playing here and also Eng's strength at home.

    Also, unlike some Indian fans, we don't hide behind silly excuses. NZ are winning because they are playing better cricket. Perhaps when you grow up and learn to appreciate opposition, you will actually enjoy cricket.

  • glance_to_leg on June 2, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    Yet more evidence that Dernbach should get nowhere near an England team.

  • Dernbach on June 2, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    New Zealand ought to be considered as a genuine contender for the Champions Trophy, off the back of the outstanding form of their batsmen.

  • Sunshine_Pom on June 2, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    Our current ODI attack is pretty woeful, but let's not forget that Finn and Broad are absent - a bowling attack of Anderson, Bresnan, Finn, Swann and Broad is a lot more competent than a bowling attack including Dernbach and Woakes. Having said that, we have next to no chance of winning the Champions Trophy.

  • Bogelking on June 2, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    That was a superb innings from Guptill. Splendid and destruction blend into one, sending the English bowlers all around the park. It has been a long time that one have seen England in their courtyard be so clueless. Perhaps the absence of key players-KP, Finn, Broad- are affecting their performances. But the Champions Trophy round the corner, they really have to pull up their socks to make a fitting reply to the Kiwis onslaught at Rose bowl. The match is still going on, and considering the new rules prevalent in ODI's it will be the height of folly to write off England because of the mammoth total posted by the opposition. Hoping a splendid fight back will be there from the English side. Good luck!!!!

  • Budhaiya on June 2, 2013, 15:21 GMT

    @ Chris Hieron- If Dernbach goes for 50+,u'll get 1.02,if he doesn't then u'll get 20.00

  • BaskarVideos on June 2, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    I think New Zealand will win.......Failures are the stepping stones to success.....Do not mind.....go on.......

  • gsingh7 on June 2, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    best batsman after bradman-- cookie goes playing straight drive like master blaster(100 century man) and misses a straight one. england will lose by about 220 runs and will lose the odi series tonight only. good going nz, win big win 3-0.

  • siddhartha87 on June 2, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    Lol England are pathetic in ODis.Look at there batting oredr. Top 3 are Cook ,Bell and Trott. Having one player like them in top 3 is good but 3 ..you gotta be kidding me!!

  • maddy20 on June 2, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    So much for CT favorites! NZ and Aus are the only teams that will make the semis from their Group. Eng and SL may as wel pack their bags and leave!

  • SaadRocx on June 2, 2013, 14:23 GMT

    this is really unbelievable from guptill :o i take my previous comment back regarding dernbach,cauz those full tosses were totally pathetic.,wonder what has english newspapers (dailymail,sun,mirror) got to say abt this bowling & fielding performance,who were quite busy these days over-hyping english team before ashes...:) best swing attack on offer?rofl,each and every bowler got smacked out of the park,i doubt broad could make a difference,he needs cloud cover all the time to take wickets just like anderson

  • GRVJPR on June 2, 2013, 14:14 GMT

    Yesterday and english writer had a lot to say about Indian bowling attack. Well English bowling attack is Pathetic.!

  • on June 2, 2013, 14:08 GMT

    Brilliant innings from Guptill . I m an Indian but i just love to watch newzeland players bat . taylor , mcCullum , guptill are all very entertaining batsmen .

  • gsingh7 on June 2, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    wat an innings from "lucky "martin. got more than 9 lives.still not convinced. when most expensive bowler in history is irreplaceable as is jade, then u know ur bowling cupboards are bare.england is for making numbers in odi tournaments, history proves it. good luck nz, win 3-0 and fulfill the prophecy for 3-0 whitewash and indian ct2013 success to go with world cup win in 2011.

  • NeverGvUp on June 2, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    Change jersey colour to the red...suddenly england play like zimbabwe ...lol

  • kiwicricketnut on June 2, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    wow! its late over here in nz but there is no chance of falling asleep watching cricket like that, still had to pinch myself, make sure i wasn't dreaming, what an amazing innings of cricket, guptill is such a guru at odi cricket,makes me wonder how he struggles so much in tests. good to see him batting so well with his mate taylor, looked like they enjoyed it out there, looks like a happy camp playing for each other again hopefully over all the off field nonsence.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Incredible that Dernbach and Woakes are considered Englands next best after Anderson, Broad, Finn (the post delivery grunter) and Bresnan. These guys simply wouldnt get games in the SS at the moment. Serious lack of depth in Englands bowling stocks. Batting a different story, but once again you can look at foreign internationals they pick to get a true guide the the strength of talent in England.

  • Budhaiya on June 2, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    Marvellous ,incredible,scintillating,glittering, but words can't match the class shown by Guptill today. He simply bludgeoned England. Before this match,only those people who're engrossed in cricket and New Zealanders, knew the name of NZ opener but today he's written his name in golden letters in the history of cricket and now even an ordinary cricket fan will have an indelible memory of his innings. Hats off to Martin. He's done his nation proud. His team was going through tough time and he's given his fellow tons of confidence. No wonder if NZ wins Champion Trophy continuing this type of form.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    That was well drilled innings, I think the way he started off and then kicked his innings in the 2nd half of innings was brilliant.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    Two of our main strike bowlers are injured..and which strike bowlers come in to replace them ? Answer...None. So where are all these wonderful pace bowlers we keep hearing about... all just waiting for the opportunity.. Oh yes, they're playing for their counties...But no problem.. we've got Woakes, Dernbach and our new wonder spinner Root..Then we wonder why we only take 2 #8 rated Kiwi wickets and Guptill, who couldn't buy a run in the tests.. gets back to back centuries. Heaven help us...because we need all the help we can get.

  • jonesy2 on June 2, 2013, 13:45 GMT

    I simply must become a cricket journalist. I say it every time he plays that dernbach is perhaps the worst bowler to ever play international cricket and it has become official today! one of the pommy commentators had the stats earlier. I will be taking offers cricinfo...

  • thebeardedblunder on June 2, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    Just what's going off out there?

  • Juiceoftheapple on June 2, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    Well played Guptill. i dont think I will be made to eat my words, but we will lose this match, the reason, our bowling strategy is all wrong, and has been for ages. we always leak runs in this format. Beacause we choose bowlers who can bat. We choose bowlers who have supposed one day variation skill. And we stick to a one spinner policy religiously. This creates too much batting pressure for our batsman. We need to pick bowlers on ability to restrict the scoring, accuracy to bowl to plans, regardless of 'type'. Tredwell, Tremlett, Onions. 50 over cricket is not T20. It is run rate most of the time that wins matches, and not necessairly wickets. When will England learn. When we have bowlers like Tredwell in the wings who can strangle the run rate, and we are playing against antipodean sides, why are we sending out seamers spraying medium fast about???????? please wake up England, this will be a very boring champions trophy.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:40 GMT

    This is the "Nth" time I am asking this question-- on various occasions! When England played in different countries. Against different teams. Why can't England's selectors turn their back on Dernbach? Why this obsession with Dernbach?

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    Why England is including Jade dernbach in all the matches even though he has conceded lots of runs in his most of the last matches. His records shows that he has conceded more than 6 runs per over in ODIs. He should be eliminated at the earliest. Other talented bowlers are there in England.

  • FredJ000 on June 2, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    Tredwell better than Dernbach

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Excellent, a gem of innings from talented guptil against jimmy and co, but these pitchs seems to be absolute banter , but still a good innings and that too a big hundred. Now the CT will be more intresting ,thanks and regards ,cheeers from"""" j & k""".

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:33 GMT

    Amazing innings by Guptill and NZ. How often have 3 century stands in the one ODI innings been made? Surely that has to be a record!

  • RandyOZ on June 2, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    watching the sour look on anderson's face has made my day. Again when things don't go his way it is everyone else's fault. Pathetic really. England are getting their just desserts for a team that isnt that good deserves.

  • nzcricket174 on June 2, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    Wow can't believe what I just watched.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    two toes man in action.. back to back centuries.. awsome.. he is ready for Champions League..

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 2, 2013, 12:54 GMT

    Great and entertaining knock from Guptil, he is a superb driver of the ball and a good hitter between the gaps of the V. Given how flat this deck is, I'd expect England to post a similar score, but Guptil has got them into a strong position. Well played.

  • kc69 on June 2, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    @BDforeverr :lets talk about big boys here.Anyways NZ needs to replace Ronchi coz he ain't looking good as an opener.

  • SaadRocx on June 2, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    Dernbech is a fine bowler having a rough time...his bag of tricks are extremelly useful especially on slower wickets...he performed really well in UAE and vs india in 2011,and in county.,For some reason he has lost his accuracy and overdo slower balls sometimes...he needs to find his length right on english pitches...specially with new ball.

  • on June 2, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    It's nice to see NZ putting England to the sword. Right now the game looks like a team playing against a #8 ranked team, but that #8 ranked team isn't NZ. Over in the other threads some Pommies are talking the usual drivel. How can they possibly expect to triumph over the world's #4 ranked team if they have been outplayed by the team ranked #8 for the past few months? Go NZ!

  • EnglishCricket on June 2, 2013, 11:15 GMT

    Again Jade Dernbach. His economy rate so far in his matches is over 6 and strike rate not that great as well.

  • on June 2, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    What are the odds on Dernbach going for 50+ again?

  • Jordanious77 on June 2, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Guptil, watling, williamson, taylor, latham, mccullum, Nathan mccullum/Elliot, Southee, mills, boult, mccleneghan.

  • BDforeverr on June 2, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    NZ shud go for 4 seamers 4 specialist batsmen and 3 all rounders. This ploy was used by shakib against Eng in these of conditions and turned out victorious

  • BDforeverr on June 2, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    NZ shud go for 4 seamers 4 specialist batsmen and 3 all rounders. This ploy was used by shakib against Eng in these of conditions and turned out victorious

  • Jordanious77 on June 2, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Guptil, watling, williamson, taylor, latham, mccullum, Nathan mccullum/Elliot, Southee, mills, boult, mccleneghan.

  • on June 2, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    What are the odds on Dernbach going for 50+ again?

  • EnglishCricket on June 2, 2013, 11:15 GMT

    Again Jade Dernbach. His economy rate so far in his matches is over 6 and strike rate not that great as well.

  • on June 2, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    It's nice to see NZ putting England to the sword. Right now the game looks like a team playing against a #8 ranked team, but that #8 ranked team isn't NZ. Over in the other threads some Pommies are talking the usual drivel. How can they possibly expect to triumph over the world's #4 ranked team if they have been outplayed by the team ranked #8 for the past few months? Go NZ!

  • SaadRocx on June 2, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    Dernbech is a fine bowler having a rough time...his bag of tricks are extremelly useful especially on slower wickets...he performed really well in UAE and vs india in 2011,and in county.,For some reason he has lost his accuracy and overdo slower balls sometimes...he needs to find his length right on english pitches...specially with new ball.

  • kc69 on June 2, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    @BDforeverr :lets talk about big boys here.Anyways NZ needs to replace Ronchi coz he ain't looking good as an opener.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 2, 2013, 12:54 GMT

    Great and entertaining knock from Guptil, he is a superb driver of the ball and a good hitter between the gaps of the V. Given how flat this deck is, I'd expect England to post a similar score, but Guptil has got them into a strong position. Well played.

  • on June 2, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    two toes man in action.. back to back centuries.. awsome.. he is ready for Champions League..

  • nzcricket174 on June 2, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    Wow can't believe what I just watched.