England v West Indies, 1st Test, Lord's, 1st day May 17, 2012

Chanderpaul defiant despite Broad sweep

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West Indies 243 for 9 (Chanderpaul 87*, Barath 42, Broad 6-72) v England
Scorecard and ball-by-ball commentary

That Shivnarine Chanderpaul values his wicket like few others is not a matter for debate. His team-mate Darren Bravo felt it, the umpire Marius Erasmus felt it and, most painfully of all, the England bowlers felt it. All three found at the start of an international summer that getting him to leave the crease is no easy matter.

More than 18 years since he made his Test debut, Chanderpaul is ranked the No. 1 Test batsman in the world, which is proof enough that, at 37, his appetite for batting has not diminished. He finished the opening day of the first Test unbeaten on 87 from 175 balls, with his average against England in England climbing beyond 69.

That England could claim nevertheless to have got the job done was down to the competitive zeal of Stuart Broad, who became stronger as the day progressed and who took all five wickets in the final session, with old ball and new, as West Indies faltered from 181 for 4. But as well as he bowled in a session that Chanderpaul was threatening to flatten, and as fulfilled as he looked as he acknowledged the applause, it still felt like a coda to a Guyanese day.

Chanderpaul's innings was not without collateral damage as he played a central role in the run out of his team-mate Darren Bravo in mid-afternoon. He was guilty of ball watching when he clipped Graeme Swann backward of square, took a couple of paces forward, enough to lure Bravo into attempting a rash single, whereupon he made a timely return to his crease shortly before Bravo arrived alongside him. Matt Prior's transfer of Ian Bell's throw to the bowler's end was inaccurate enough for Swann to have to dive to his left to retrieve and complete the run out with a measure of relief.

England came close to dismissing Chanderpaul on three occasions. Three overs after the run-out of Bravo, umpire Erasmus upheld James Anderson's appeal for lbw, around the wicket, after Chanderpaul raised arms and was hit on the pad. But Chanderpaul reviewed it with the calm demeanour of a batsman who knew his angles and Hawk-Eye suggested the ball was comfortably missing off stump.

Swann could have had him lbw on 63, but England failed to review. By the time he was on 74, England's captain, Andrew Strauss, gambled on Stuart Broad's conviction that he had him lbw - never a wise move - and the ball was shown to have pitched outside leg stump.

England's seam bowlers bowled wide of off stump at Chanderpaul until tea, often to 7-2 fields, respectful of his strength through the legside. They attacked the stumps more in the final session. Graeme Swann invited the sweep and his offspinners went for 14 in an over. Through it all, Chanderpaul's river rolled along, not as rapid as the Demerara in his native Guyana, more a languid plotting of the safest route through the mangroves. He bats to his own moods, at No. 5, because he is comfortable doing so; to question that, as has Brian Lara among others, is to invite his failure.

A cool, inhospitable English spring was a daunting challenge for the West Indies and when Anderson, England's player of the year, has a Dukes ball in his hand, the task is all the more challenging. He predictably made inroads in what for him were near-perfect bowling conditions with two wickets by lunch, bowling Kieran Powell with a superb delivery that snaked back to take the top of off stump and disorientating Kirk Edwards first up with an inswinger out of the Harry Potter school of wizardry before removing him with a full and straight one. Anderson even gave the on-field pep talk before play began. He is a man of few words and has probably found that an equally difficult skill to master.

It was no surprise that England chose to bowl. The pitch was white and gleaming but it was what lay above and below that mattered. The groundsman, Mick Hunt, regarded underlying moisture as inevitable and up above the cloud cover added to the sense that batting would be difficult. As it turned out, there was more swing - and mostly for Anderson - than seam and the surface was slow. Anderson was outstanding as he swung the ball lavishly before lunch; Bresnan was steadfast and economical. But Broad's final-session flourish salvaged a more difficult day than they might have imagined.

But West Indies' recent history also made Strauss' decision a logical one. West Indies sides coming to England used to invite a sense of awe. These days, for many they bring a sense of regret, a regret at their inability to stand alongside the first-tier nations, illustrated by their record of two wins in their past 30 Tests.

The great West Indian sides could strut their stuff in midsummer in conditions that were more in their favour, but weaker West Indies sides have become the English season's support act and so must play their Test cricket earlier when conditions are stacked against them. It makes their task of recovery doubly difficult. They often came close to having a good day, particularly at 181 for 4, at which point Marlon Samuels, who had added 81 with Chanderpaul for the fifth wicket, drove uncertainly at a fullish, wide one from Broad and edged to backward point.

England followed their two wickets before lunch with two more in the afternoon. Adrian Barath, who had included some cultured cover drives in his 42 - nine boundaries in all - fell to a gully catch by Anderson, who fell backwards as he parried, but caught at the second attempt. England had failed with an lbw review against Barath earlier in the over, but retained their two reviews because Broad had overstepped.

Bravo had fortunate moments even before his run-out. There was reason for England supporters to rue Andrew Strauss' conservatism when Bravo edged his first ball, from Anderson, at catchable height through a vacant fourth slip. Swann should also have caught him at second slip off James Anderson in the previous over, the ball rebounding off his chest. There is something about catching the ball out of the egg-and-bacon backdrop in the Lord's pavilion that can defeat the best of slip catchers.

But England's catching sparked up in the final session as Broad picked off Chanderpaul's unreliable allies at regular intervals. Denesh Ramdin was undone by extra bounce. Then came three wickets with the new ball: Darren Sammy, working too square on the leg side and caught off a leading edge; Kemar Roach, chipping a return catch; and Fidel Edwards, caught at the wicket to end the day after Chanderpaul had got off strike from the first ball of the final over.

Broad walked off to the flattery of a contented crowd. But there, somewhere in the corner of his eye, was a batsman of immense durability. He remained not out, and is still England's unsolved challenge for the Test series that lies ahead.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY Ravi13104 on | May 20, 2012, 23:57 GMT

    So looking forward to seeing Shivnarine in Ft. Lauderdale.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | May 20, 2012, 8:41 GMT

    @SirViv1973 - re: comparing Strauss to Brearly - insulting to whom? Brearly is a highlty regarded captain & leader of men (so is Strauss), so what's the problem? Anyways it was tongue & cheek & irrelevant now anyways thanks to his ton!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | May 18, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 11:00 AM GMT) - sorry to hear about your family circumstances. You are always a solid contributor; Keep posting mate.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 11:00 AM GMT) Hope things are settling down for you now

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | May 18, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    @jmcilhinney... Apologies on my first comment - haven't concentrated at my best recently due to a family loss... Re: no balls - laser technology can accurately bouce a beam off from the moon many 100,000's of km's away without problems to within millimetres back to Earth... The difference between 10 metres & 100 metres is much more accurate :) ...

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 08:47 AM GMT), I don't know exactly how that Cyclops (I believe that's the name) technology in tennis works but I'm guessing that it involves a beam of light from one side/end of the court to the other. In tennis, that's a relatively short distance with a generally unobstructed line of sight over a (almost) perfectly flat surface. In cricket, you'd need the beam to travel much further over possibly undulating ground with the non-striker and fielders possibly in the way. I'm not sure that it would be feasible. Apart from that, the fans might start whistling on every no-ball and then I'd have to kill someone. I would think that the 3rd umpire could simply watch the side-on shot each delivery and then either call it on the spot or, if it was close, tell the on-field umpire to hold the play while he watched a slo-mo. For fast bowlers that would be quicker than they get back to their mark anyway so there would generally be no delay.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | May 18, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    @ no-ball technology, I've always thought that there should be something to detect front foot no-balls and give the ump a signal so he doesn't have to worry about this.. I think it would make his decision making much easier from the bowler's release onwards.. surely the technology is there already and it would make for better decisions in series in countries not using DRS. @RandyOZ we've nearly bowled out a decent young Windies side for just over 200, imagine what we'll do to an under-par, aging australian line up, i'm pretty sure that Ricky Ponting is too old to focus on the ball any more, it'll only be a couple of broad bumpers before he taps a dolly up to square leg.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    England dominated the first day as expected, but i did like the effort by some of the Windies batsmen, to dig in and apply themselves. But as usual the likes of Barath, Bravo and Samuels all got starts, but were unable to convert after they did all the hard work. What were the odds of Chanderpaul making the most of his start, it's just a shame that somebody couldn't stay with him for at least a session. Bravo's run out was unfortunate, Chanders was ball-watching, when he should've responded to Bravo's call, instead he panicked and sold him down the river. Oh well that happens sometimes. The Windies will now have to try and restrict England to under a hundred lead. The overcast weather should mean that when England's innings start, they should be made to work hard for their runs. They have the temperament and talent to do it of course, i just hope the Windies bowlers can keep their disciplines and bowl a good probing line in helpful conditions, instead of too many four-balls.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 08:38 AM GMT), that's pretty much exactly my point. My comment was made in reply to a specific criticism that England were performing worse than Australia had based on this one innings of this one Test, which is ridiculous given the fact that England have made a better start here than Australia did in that last series and they won that 2-0 and should have won it 3-0. England may fall in a heap from here or they may go on to three innings victories but noone with any common sense can say that England are in trouble or doing poorly after that day's play.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    Thought the run out of Bravo was a key moment although Swann should have caught him not long previously. Difficult to gage what a good score is till both teams have batted. I'm actually a little disappointed and still not 100% confident in our batsmen

  • POSTED BY Ravi13104 on | May 20, 2012, 23:57 GMT

    So looking forward to seeing Shivnarine in Ft. Lauderdale.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | May 20, 2012, 8:41 GMT

    @SirViv1973 - re: comparing Strauss to Brearly - insulting to whom? Brearly is a highlty regarded captain & leader of men (so is Strauss), so what's the problem? Anyways it was tongue & cheek & irrelevant now anyways thanks to his ton!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | May 18, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 11:00 AM GMT) - sorry to hear about your family circumstances. You are always a solid contributor; Keep posting mate.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 11:00 AM GMT) Hope things are settling down for you now

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | May 18, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    @jmcilhinney... Apologies on my first comment - haven't concentrated at my best recently due to a family loss... Re: no balls - laser technology can accurately bouce a beam off from the moon many 100,000's of km's away without problems to within millimetres back to Earth... The difference between 10 metres & 100 metres is much more accurate :) ...

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 08:47 AM GMT), I don't know exactly how that Cyclops (I believe that's the name) technology in tennis works but I'm guessing that it involves a beam of light from one side/end of the court to the other. In tennis, that's a relatively short distance with a generally unobstructed line of sight over a (almost) perfectly flat surface. In cricket, you'd need the beam to travel much further over possibly undulating ground with the non-striker and fielders possibly in the way. I'm not sure that it would be feasible. Apart from that, the fans might start whistling on every no-ball and then I'd have to kill someone. I would think that the 3rd umpire could simply watch the side-on shot each delivery and then either call it on the spot or, if it was close, tell the on-field umpire to hold the play while he watched a slo-mo. For fast bowlers that would be quicker than they get back to their mark anyway so there would generally be no delay.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | May 18, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    @ no-ball technology, I've always thought that there should be something to detect front foot no-balls and give the ump a signal so he doesn't have to worry about this.. I think it would make his decision making much easier from the bowler's release onwards.. surely the technology is there already and it would make for better decisions in series in countries not using DRS. @RandyOZ we've nearly bowled out a decent young Windies side for just over 200, imagine what we'll do to an under-par, aging australian line up, i'm pretty sure that Ricky Ponting is too old to focus on the ball any more, it'll only be a couple of broad bumpers before he taps a dolly up to square leg.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    England dominated the first day as expected, but i did like the effort by some of the Windies batsmen, to dig in and apply themselves. But as usual the likes of Barath, Bravo and Samuels all got starts, but were unable to convert after they did all the hard work. What were the odds of Chanderpaul making the most of his start, it's just a shame that somebody couldn't stay with him for at least a session. Bravo's run out was unfortunate, Chanders was ball-watching, when he should've responded to Bravo's call, instead he panicked and sold him down the river. Oh well that happens sometimes. The Windies will now have to try and restrict England to under a hundred lead. The overcast weather should mean that when England's innings start, they should be made to work hard for their runs. They have the temperament and talent to do it of course, i just hope the Windies bowlers can keep their disciplines and bowl a good probing line in helpful conditions, instead of too many four-balls.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @zenboomerang on (May 18 2012, 08:38 AM GMT), that's pretty much exactly my point. My comment was made in reply to a specific criticism that England were performing worse than Australia had based on this one innings of this one Test, which is ridiculous given the fact that England have made a better start here than Australia did in that last series and they won that 2-0 and should have won it 3-0. England may fall in a heap from here or they may go on to three innings victories but noone with any common sense can say that England are in trouble or doing poorly after that day's play.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    Thought the run out of Bravo was a key moment although Swann should have caught him not long previously. Difficult to gage what a good score is till both teams have batted. I'm actually a little disappointed and still not 100% confident in our batsmen

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | May 18, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    Good first day play by both teams with nothing showing that this series will not be an interesting contest... WI's with a young developing team showed fight while the very experienced Eng had bowlers that stood up when required... Looks like the better batting days will be days 2 & 3 (unusual :P), so Eng have set themselves up with every chance to win... Just hope the WI bowlers get something extra out of these pitches & take the fight up to Eng... Looking for a 5 day match...

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | May 18, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    @jmcilhinney... re: no ball bowling - agree it chould be a 3rd umpire call... Actually, I can't see why the same technology that is used in tennis for balls served (200kph+) outside the line can't be used - the bowling crease is much shorter than where a tennis serve can land... Its an instant call in tennis, so why not cricket?... Pretty old & proven technology to what we have today...

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:43 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (May 18 2012, 03:16 AM GMT) PS - I don't know how you or others feel about this , but I'm wondering if there should be some technology to relieve the umpires for looking out for no balls ?I've always thought it must be a stupidly difficult job to watch for the no ball and then manage to watch the ball's direction and make a decision on top of this.Maybe they could have some technology where every time when part of the front foot is behind the line it signals a noise to the umpire so the umpire knows that any time he hears no noise it's a no ball. This could be financially unviable though.Or in tests maybe no one has to look out for the NB and on every wicket there is a mandatory check for a no ball. I just find it amazing that umpires can check for a no ball and at the same time watch the course of the ball and make a decision

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | May 18, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    @jmcilhinney :- "WI scored about 450 in their first innings in the last series against Australia while they will score about 250 here"... Cherrypicking data?... 3 Tests... First innings of - 449, 257, 218... So an average @308 in their home conditions against the then no.4 in the world, which series Oz won 2-0... Different pitches, different conditions & just the first innings runs!... What point are you trying to make?... PS: Eng are equal no.1 with SA - just 4 pts ahead of Oz... On countback (last series won) SA would be ahead, but lets wait until Eng have beaten the Saafa's both at home & away, plus India at home before anyone starts spruiking too much :) ...

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    how darren sammy is captain i dont know doesnt bat in the top 6 is at beast a 2nd change bowler, marlon samuels if playing for any other big nation in test cricket wouldnt get a game again he is terrible they needed someone to make at least to stay with chanderpaul not good enough.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    @Sushma Shyam on (May 18 2012, 03:25 AM GMT) Surely IPL is not the culprit under any of these circumstances. The players have the choice as to whether or not they play IPL. Whether the selectors dilly dallying influence the players decision is a different matter. IPL franchises (for all their criticism) seem quite flexible. I mean quite a few Oz players played in the WI series and then joined proceedings after that and KP was allowed to go back to England ready for the WI series. At the end of the day it's the player who makes the decision

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | May 18, 2012, 8:19 GMT

    Can someone let me know why Samuels is in the team? He is seriously terrible.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (May 18 2012, 03:16 AM GMT) You are right in that the extra delivery worked well for England but what would have happened had the ball been hitting? Should the 3rd umpire have ignored the no ball - which was marginal anyway? You have to give the no ball and have the extra delivery. Surely it'sjust coincidence that a wicket was taken next ball. However I do think that if a bowling side reviews a decision and there is a no ball they should also lose the review

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | May 18, 2012, 8:12 GMT

    Shocking start from England. No one even getting near 140kph. Anderson the only one who looked threatening despite Broad's lucky 5 wickets. Must be seriously worrying for you English fans that passengers like Swann, Strauss, Bresnan and Bell (especially) are still in the team. Boy the talent is thin.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    @ Sriraj G.S. on (May 17 2012, 22:30 PM GMT) Seemed to remember the WI top order doing well in the 1st inns vs Aust. Unfortunately - yes Eng are number one.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | May 18, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    England in some serious trouble. Swann and Bresnan again completely ineffective..

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    @the_wallster on (May 17 2012, 20:38 PM GMT) - I'm an Eng fan myself but my point is that just because De Lange for example has had very limited experience , it doesn't mean that if SA picked up a couple of injuries that he and another couldn't do a job again. If you have DS/VP and MM you are not likely to change those 3 unless you get an injury and it's not like SA have had injuries in that dept and their replacements have been found wanting in recent years. Eng have had quite a few injuries in recent years - Broad,Bres and CT so they've had to bring others in and this has proven we have had depth but just because SA have used the same 3 pacemen doesn't mean they don't have back up. Agree re WK and spin.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    @Nampally on (May 17 2012, 20:17 PM GMT) Well done for your balanced views once more. We'd expect nothing else

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 7:51 GMT

    @deol84 on (May 17 2012, 21:58 PM GMT) - More's the point - what's the point in commenting if the game is that dire. Also how do you know what the game is like - If you are watching IPL you can't be watching this test as it clashes?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 18, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    @jackiethepen on (May 17 2012, 19:49 PM GMT) LOL - Broad takes 6 for , Shiv nears a century and the one thing you noticed was Bell's throw which was accurate but basically what you'd expect of any of your fielders

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    i think it will be a repeat of last summer, when Dravid stood above the debris of the indian team. Likewise Chanders will stand above the debris of the west indian team while England make merry. can't understand why the WICB keeps out players like Gayle, DJ Bravo and also Narine.

  • POSTED BY truthhh on | May 18, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    most of WI players are playing for IPL,so now WI vs ENG or WI A team vs ENG..i think 2 one is right,this same thing happen WI vs AUS.so final outcome cannot be compared!!so stop these kind of matches!!!!srilankan fan

  • POSTED BY njn1 on | May 18, 2012, 6:16 GMT

    hey WICB - i think that the established players for WI now know that their respective places in the team can't be taken for granted and that it has to be earned through hard work, desire and dedication. therefore, it is time for sarwan to be reintroduced to the team on a probational basis - we badly need stability in the top three. also, we have invested way too much in the likes of jerome taylor, who is too talended, to just fall off the radar screen - what is being done to get him back into the fold of jamacian and windies cricket? the lessons have been taught and now it is time to have the established players like gayle, sarwan, nash, taylor, bravo senior reintroduced with the young blood into windies cric - competition is good. go windies!

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 18, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    @The Light Bishoo's form has not been good this year and I don't really think you can argue with him being dropped, besides Shillingford came in and then took 10 wickets in Dominica. If my memory serves me correct he is only the second west Indian bowler to manage thi feat in the past decade.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 18, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    @Meety, I think you have a given a pretty fair assement of the situation but comparing Strauss to Brearly is damn right insulting. Yes AS has had a lean time of it over the past couple of years but he scored a hundred on debut & has always had a career ave above 40. MB had an ave in the low 20's and never scored a hundred!

  • POSTED BY brittop on | May 18, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    @satish619chandar: so you would be quite happy if a batsman was given out on review, although the TV clearly showed that the delivery was a no-ball? Also, wouldn't the 3rd umpire correcting bad decisions be tricky to implement. The only way he could know if the on-field decision was bad, would be to use all the DRS tools. He would have to do this after every appeal by the fielding side to ensure a bad decision wasn't missed. Wouldn't this disrupt the game too much? If you want him to spot all no balls as well, then he has to check every delivery, and the on-field umpire would have to wait each time until he got the all clear.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | May 18, 2012, 5:35 GMT

    Not enough runs, but still better than I thought they'd do. The ball was hooping around like a baloon in a thunder storm. But the actual track looks good. So there's plenty of runs there for the taking, esp. if Roach and Edwards ust bowl straight up and down. Can't beleive Broad got 6 wickets, though. The part of the game I watched he looked harmless, and the ball was barely carrying through to the keeper. In fact none of the English quicks is anything more than fast-medium (130-135kms/hr), which is why they struggle on flat wickets.

  • POSTED BY demon_bowler on | May 18, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    Some people are criticizing Chanderpaul for taking a single off the first ball of the final over. In the old days, when the no.11 would have had to face the final two balls after Edwards' dismissal and so the Windies could have been bowled out, this would have been legitimate criticism. But after the rule change a few years ago (an absolutely ridiculous one -- why should the batting side not have to face the full final over?), it is quite legitimate for the senior batsman to preserve his own wicket. After 53 tests, Edwards averages about six-and-a-half runs per innings. Chanderpaul could easily add five times that number of runs tomorrow. Therefore he did the right thing.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (May 18 2012, 03:16 AM GMT), England were asking for the on-field umpire's decision to be reviewed and over-turned, thereby having the batsmen given out. Surely you can't advocate the batsmen being given out off a ball that is known to be illegal. Umpires are bound to miss a no-ball here and there because they have less than a second to move there eyes from the bowling crease to the batsman to make LBW decisions so I would imagine they would prioritise the latter. If a no-ball can really have an impact though, as in this scenario, they check for that first, as is appropriate. You can't really blame the umpire for missing it when, even with a freeze-frame from side-on, you still had to look closely in this case. Personally, I think no-balls should be 100% the responsibility of the third umpire. The on-field umpire wouldn't even have to look at the crease then and making LBW decisions would be much easier.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | May 18, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    @Gregory F Bean, how it is the WI's board if players like Gayle, would rather earn money in the IPL rather than playing test cricket, if anything blame the players for putting themselves first in the IPL, look at KP he was in the IPL but came back to the UK 10 days ago to play first class cricket, and take part in this test. Gayle could have done the same, but he'd rather take the 30 pieces of silver from his IPL paymasters than play tests.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | May 18, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    @Dashgar, the thing with Shiv is that while some share that view, even Viv is in favour of Shiv and the way he bats, if nothing else he helps post competative targets and is a stabilsing force in the WI's middle order, and helps them post competative targets, which is what hes done now, take out his innings today and they would be 180-200ao.....The other player that impressed me was Barath, who has one of the best cover drives I've seen in recent times, if not for the rish of blood after lunch he could have scored a ton..Bravo didnt seem comfortable against the seamers, with poor footwork, and Shiv was at fault in the run out, which was Bravos call and would have made his ground easily.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    This West Indian side has a lengthy tail. Unfortunately, it starts from the top.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 3:25 GMT

    Can someone explain to me why someone like Sunil Narine is not playing for the Windies in this test? Is IPL the culprit or the selectors?

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | May 18, 2012, 3:16 GMT

    Well.. This always had been a puzzle for me.. Why check no ball for DRS? The player is not challenging the no ball but the decision made by the umpire.. If you want the sanity to prevail, the third umpire should himself intervene on bad decisions by calling the umpire when his decision is wrong.. Isn't it? Unfortunately for WI, the extra delivery cost them a settled batsman..

  • POSTED BY KathmanduNepalSandeshLamsal on | May 18, 2012, 3:12 GMT

    just bring all the performer gayle,bravo,russel,smith,sarwan,ben quick to the w.indies team other wise it will be toooo late that there will be any w.indies supporter left for the team.

    and the blame will be to the GIBSON.

    just fire "GIBSON"..............so sick of him and current policy of w.indies board.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | May 18, 2012, 2:59 GMT

    @KDoc, you've just supported Holding's statement completely. He does make the runs, but he doesn't play to the situation to best serve West Indies interests. If Viv Richards has a series where he averages 80 then West Indies would always win. Shiv does it in losing series' regularly. The pure stats don't add up but you have to look past that to the effect the runs have on the rest of the team. Shiv's runs don't help his teammates nearly as much as Viv or Lara's did due to how they dominated partnerships and opposition bowlers. Shiv is still a great player but not a match winner like Viv and Lara.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | May 18, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    Much better performance that many others have managed vs that attack. After being sent in to survive the day with nearly 250 on the board is a good effort for that group. They are still behind in the game but at least there is a game on. They weren't rolled for 150 with England 0-100 at stumps or anything. The top order will learn from their first taste of the English attack and will be better for it. For those saying England don't deserve to be number 1 then look at how SA failed to put away Australia and India and nearly let SL off the hook on their home turf. England travelled to Australia and won, they whitewashed India at home and have beaten everyone who's come to their home easily. England aren't a stand out number 1 but they deserve their spot their while the numbers add up. South Africa are a bit like Serena Williams, they're the best side but they won't get the ranking unless they win everything, not just what they are motivated for.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 2:53 GMT

    If Chanderpaul retires, who's gonna save the batting? It's worse than Banglasdesh and Zimbabwe without Chanders.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    According to Gibson, WI did well today. What a shame? What has doing well gone to? One batsman cannot play against 11. I still cannot The W I batting line up. The first 3 batsmen dont equal 1 yet. Tomorrow is coming we will see.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 2:33 GMT

    Too many of Wi better players being left out of the team, its not fair to the paying public, they expect to see quality cricket i call on the icc to jump on the Wi board over this issue..

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | May 18, 2012, 2:28 GMT

    Have to agree with those that say 250 could be a reasonable score. We'll know more when England bats, but at least WI have those runs in the bank. .... what about Chanderpaul? He's such an inspiration to old blokes like me. .. I hope he gets his ton but won't be putting any cash on it. ... gotta say Broad is worthy of respect. .. he's a top notch cricketer imo. .. I thought his dad was good, but Stuart is going to leave his old man way behind..

  • POSTED BY bullpit1 on | May 18, 2012, 2:12 GMT

    Once again poor captaincy has let the WI badly of the hook. They should have been out for about a 100 but Strauss is so defensive. I would have employed am umbrella field all day and bet that no one would have made more than 20. Still the test will go into the 3rd day now as no doubt the authorities would like.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 2:09 GMT

    I still for the life of me cannot figure or comprehend the mindset of Otis Gibson, a bowler trying to tell Chanderpaul how to bat; and telling him to retire, haven't the WICB made enough mistakes to just pack up and go home. WI still have enough quality players to be entertaining and win. Dr. Hilarious said he did not want a team of "Stars", Dr. Hilarious what we need is people who are stars, but will play for the benefit of the team. You are trying to put a team of Donkeys to run in a Horse Race, you are putting people in above their heads and thus you conspire to retard their growth, by giving them too much too soon. Dr. Hilarious for the good of WI cricket, please resign as CEO, and give WI cricket back to the people!

  • POSTED BY TheLight on | May 18, 2012, 1:39 GMT

    @777aditya.................these players (and oterhs) will continue to choose IPL and otehr contracts over the WI because they do not trust the WICB.............just look at where the ICC emerging player for 2011 is at this time (Bishoo). He was discarded after just 1 match this year.

  • POSTED BY TheLight on | May 18, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    @toxic1007, people were calling for Baugh's head because he missed 7 chances in the last series against Australia.......which is more than Ramdin missed in his entire career.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 0:55 GMT

    Chanderpaul want Dropping from the Team. He is not helping the Team . I say so

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    @Nampally on (May 17 2012, 20:17 PM GMT), once again there are two ways to look at things. Yes, England were a bit lucky to get that run out but Bravo was equally lucky to even be there to be run out given that he nicked a ball straight into Swann's chest that should have been snapped up. Poor play by Swann to put down a sitter and poor play by the batsmen to get Bravo run out.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    @Sriraj G.S. on (May 17 2012, 22:30 PM GMT), some people really are desperate to convince others that England are no good. WI scored about 450 in their first innings in the last series against Australia while they will score about 250 here. Yes England really are #1.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 18, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    @Cheyne246 on (May 17 2012, 18:52 PM GMT), and if England had reviewed that Swann LBW then WI could have been all out for barely over 200. There's always different ways of looking at a situation.

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    Great bowling by the ENGLISH lads on a pitch that was actually in favour of the batters. This is why we're number one, and why we'll still be number one this time next year! Go ENGLAND!

  • POSTED BY on | May 18, 2012, 0:35 GMT

    Fans, in the interest of keeping this forum real, please cease naming players whom you believe should be in/out of the team. It gets boring and I suspect, the average reader skips these and other puerile posts. Also, calling for the dismissal of a coach and/or captain at the commencement of a Series is silly because it's not going to happen. This space may be better utilized by commenting on a day's play, state of a game, players' performances or lack thereof, tactics etc. It's pointless too to argue about the veracity of statistics when a quick visit to Cricinfo would suffice. Now to today's play. WI get a C+. We're still gifting wickets after doing the hard work. The guilty ones are obvious. Chanders still stands above all in the team. BTW, he's not the greatest WI batsman ever. Productive/effective yes, but not the greatest. Hope he reaches a richly-deserved ton tomorrow. Broad bowled splendidly, but received help from a few of our batsmen. Edwards & Roach must come out firing.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | May 18, 2012, 0:24 GMT

    Good effort by the WIndies, there was all the conditions for a routing, but credit to the Groundsmen they have prepared a pitch that was not unplayable. Good reward for effort for Broad & to a lessor extent Mr Anderson. As per usual, there is no way of telling atm, what is a good score until England have batted for a session or two. Should the WIndies make some inroads tomorrow, then you would say 200 is par & 250 good. I would expect eventually England will rack up a reasonable lead. The Chanders really needs to get a few quick runs tomorrow, & needed a good score after the run out. How crucial was that run out? I rate Bravo very highly, & feel if he can do what I think is talent is capable of, he alone could make things awkward for England. So I spose Day 2, all eyes will be on Andrew "Brearly" Strauss???? (couldn't help myself).

  • POSTED BY paul_21353 on | May 18, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    well done to the tiger once again, he continues to shine, WI just need a few other batsmen to support him and they will get better scores, looking forward to seeing Shannon Gabriel bowl, he seems an interesting prospect for the future of WI cricket. Hope Chanderpaul makes his hundred. He deserves it.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 23:47 GMT

    I hope that the world's best batsman gets the support necessary for him to reap his well deserved ton tomorrow morning.

  • POSTED BY toxic1007 on | May 17, 2012, 23:43 GMT

    Posted by Raj Bud on (May 17 2012, 20:25 PM GMT) ramdhim and edwards need to be drop,deonarine and shilling ford should play ,bravo should take up the keeping,go wi

    Where is all the Ramdim followers they was calling for Baugh head and he is not doing any better!!! ok lets give him six inning and see if he can score over 30 in any inning.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 22:33 GMT

    this is expected this WI side should have been Gayle Symmonds (wk) Bravo Chandra Sarwan DeoNarine Bravo Samuels Narine Roach Sammy

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    sarwan is missing.he is having a good season pplaying club cricket in england...he just scored a century.why is he not in the team?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????we have the talent but at the end of the day ego wins

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Is this England side really supposed to be No.1? The unsettled transitioning Aussies trouble WI's top 3 with more comfort in WI while these boys bowling under gray skies on a more helpful English pitch have to rely on 7 ball overs and run-outs to pinch wickets!

  • POSTED BY deol84 on | May 17, 2012, 21:58 GMT

    BOOring test cricket when england plays minown west indies,all know the outcome of this series whats the point watching it,watch ipl instead where west indies creame are performing.Watched chris gayle bat today brillllant.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 21:58 GMT

    I don't understand why Shiv doesn't bat at number 4, everyone knows he takes his time and if he bats at that position than you can be looking scores of 150+ from him. Just like the recent series against Australia, Shiv could've had even more 100s had he batted at number 4 I mean batting at number 5 means that you won't have much partners left afterwards plus the batting line up gets weaker from there on. Anyway, Shiv deserves a 100 in this match, a match which certainly looks to be his last on this special ground.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | May 17, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    I think the WI will be reasonably satisfied with the day. There's no way of knowing what is a good score until both sides have batted, but 243-9 on a cold Spring day in the first innings at Lord's isn't a bad effort. It could have been even better if Bravo and Chanda hadn't managed to finish up at the same end. England's seamers beat the bat many times, but you expect that in these conditions. We'll see how England get on tomorrow, but I would caution them against over-confidence; Chanda is quite capable of scoring 30 or 40 on his own in quick time and that would make the score pretty useful. BTW, who is Marius Erasmus? Is he any relation to the test umpire Marais Erasmus?

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 17, 2012, 21:30 GMT

    @ the source I don't think you can hammer the selection too much. There are just no other options at the top for WI. I would agree that If Barath was playing for any other team then he would have been dropped but there is potential and a patient 42 today wasn't bad against the likes of Anderson & Broad. Edwards is ave over 50 in tests so regardless of his lack of experience in Eng conditions he has to play. The big problem is there are just no young batsman of quality scoring runs at first class level in the carribean at the moment. Fuddin did well domestically & may have played in this test had it not been for the visa problems & the near washout of a game at hove. to leave out Shillingford was correct, visiting spinners generally find it hard to take wickets at lords espically early season. Deonarine should though have played, I do not think Samuels should be in the side his ave is under 30 in 37 tests, yes he bowls a bit but you couldt call him a genuine allrounder

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | May 17, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    @JG2704, I agree with you to certain extent, but I do think CG would have made a difference at the top, WI middle order is good with KE, DB & shiv but there is no top or bottom. I do however agree with @777 that Windies shld be able to pick their best side & I think that DW Brav or KP would be a better option at 6 than MS who still has a an ave of under 30 in 37 tests! SN probably wouldn't do too much in early season Eng conditions but may have made a difference in the recent series against Aus in more favorable conditions but because he is wanted in the IPL he will probably remain a limited overs player for WI like KP which I think is so wrong. One other thing I would say is that the selectors need to seriously think about recalling Sarwan at some point in the not too distant future he is a proven test match performer who has gone through some lean times recently but I think his current stint with Leicester is doing him the world of good.

  • POSTED BY 2.14istherunrate on | May 17, 2012, 20:46 GMT

    An interesting day. The early batsmen did okay reall, though Anderson might have had 4 by lunch on his own. Broad came to the party just on cue and totally transformed the day into a great one England- lovely bowling and a very deserved haul. Of course C'paul is just grinding on. Can he go again through a series without getting out???? I thought Swann deserved a few as he seemed to disturb everyone.

  • POSTED BY 30-30-150 on | May 17, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    @777aditya- This is Test cricket. Players like Pollard, Russell, Dwayne Smith do not have the temperament to play Tests. They are suited to limited overs and that is exactly what they should play to have a successful career. However, Gayle and Narine, in all likeliness, would have made a big difference like you said.

  • POSTED BY the_wallster on | May 17, 2012, 20:38 GMT

    @JG2704 - While it is true to note of de Lange and perhaps even Tsotsobe, they don't have the experience of playing in a varied degree of conditions, nor been proven of their consistent line and length. Even Finn and Bresnan at 12 and 13 Tests have played in Sri Lanka, UAE and Australia alongside their own. And you can't argue with the wicket-keeper and spin positions. I'm going to the Headingley game on the Saturday so should be enthralling stuff regardless.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 20:25 GMT

    ramdhim and edwards need to be drop,deonarine and shilling ford should play ,bravo should take up the keeping,go wi

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | May 17, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    WI put up a much better total than expected. If Gayle, Pollard, Bravo & Narine were in the squad, England would have been struggling. Also Nash & Sarwan are missing. However Chandrapal stood firm at one end and made England fight for every wicket. Unfortunately, Bravo's run out was an unnecessary blow. Otherwise England would have been in a much worse situation. It will be tough for Chander to get his century with the last man to face the first 2 balls on Day 2. Edwards is a good fast bowler much quicker than Broad or Anderson. Roach is also handful. If these 2 guys can produce their best form than England batting will be struggling too.Again the absence of a shock bowler like Narine or Bishoo is going to hurt WI. It promises to be a an interesting Day 2. Contrary to the expectations, WI batted reasonably well.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    WI are definitely rising. I will be delighted to see them improve right from first test. D Sammy and Co are a very talented side. No words for Chandrapaul's patience. Also excited to see how S. Gabriel goes on his debut. I would love to see him rip through English top order.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 17, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    @777aditya on (May 17 2012, 16:20 PM GMT) To be honest I'm not sure how much difference all would have made. Has Pollard/ Narine even played test cricket? Gayle would probably fit in but scoring 100 in IPL in tailor made conditions against tailor made bowling is a whole different game to playing against a quality bowling line up in overcast conditions. Honestly don't think Dwane or Andre would definitely get in either - but yes it must be frustrating that none are in the test squad

  • POSTED BY ilyas on | May 17, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    People who are going on about players like Gayle, Sarwan the other Bravo are plain deluding themselves. I saw the Windies on the last two tours to England and it was plain embarassing the attitude and application, especially with Gayle turning up 2/3 days before the test last time. Were Windies beating everyone with all these "great" players? Hell no, most games were over in three days. Yes this team has some areas which require development but today was very difficult for batting with top quality seamers swinging the ball like banana. Only a guy like Shiv at the top of his game was able to cope and so i would regard it as a reasonable day for the Windies. One player who is not doing anything at all for the Windies is Samuels. Scores 2 runs in about 30 balls and then decides to attack everything when if he had batted sensibly Windies could be looking at 300-350 but he has always thought he was a better player than he really is - time for him to go and give Deo a chance.

  • POSTED BY jackiethepen on | May 17, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    Ian Bell's pick up and throw was quite something. In the confusion it got overlooked but nice to know that David Hopps noted who set the run out in motion.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 17, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    @the_wallster on (May 17 2012, 18:45 PM GMT) Not sure about SA lacking depth in bowling. When De Lange came in he took a 5 for in his first match. Just because we've not seen the depth it doesn't mean it's not there. Guess we'll find out if they start getting injuries

  • POSTED BY Midonoff on | May 17, 2012, 19:41 GMT

    Thought the world no.1 test team would be batting by now, after reading they have a bowling line up that other team grudge, not saying they don't have a good bowling attack but so do other teams. Also, was told this team will walk through the west indies and they will score 600/3 declare every time they bat. WOW.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 19:32 GMT

    while were are all disscussing how well its posied and who were missing from the side potentialy what difference will it make if all other players were available, we will still be playing with 3 specialist bowlers and sammy as an alrounder. the ability to bowl a side out for a relatively small amout of runs is fundemental to test cricket simply because of the time factor, if we bring in all these dynamic batsment to post huge totals we still will be lacking the fire power to simply bowl a side out. consequently the west indies needs to invest in producing attaking bowlers who can take wickets cosistently.

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | May 17, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    Stuart Broad just continues to take wickets.He is proving a hell of a bonus to have in the team and he can bat as well.Lets hope he stays healthy.

  • POSTED BY mahjut on | May 17, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    for my money the WI did ok today ... they lost the toss with overhead conditions good for bowling. they survived a very in form Anderson (who wasn't really backed up). I would imagine Gayle to waltz back in and I back Sammy as he seems to galvanise the team so Bravo Sr may not get such an easy pass. I suppose considering Swann's poor outing, the decision to leave out Shillingford may be justified but surely Narine will have a year in the team (while he remains a mystery anyway). WI's big problem is the keeper ... i like ramdin but he's not doing it at Test level - back to the drawing board with this. Otherwise, things are looking ok for them....

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    The West Indies side put forward this match are not great but they are also not truly awful either. As the action today showed, they have a squad which at times can potentially trouble England. Ultimately however, England highlighted their superiority by still maintaining dominant position by the end of the days play despite some troublesome partnerships. I think the pattern of intermittent West Indies good plays with English overall superiority will continue throughout this series.

  • POSTED BY Sehwag_Is_Ordinary on | May 17, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    this was 150 all out pitch/condition given the fragile WI batting line up even more so because ENgland will crumble to sheer pace attack of WI. Advantage with WI

  • POSTED BY Sanj747 on | May 17, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Chanderpaul - what a class act.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    This should be a good contest - esp. if WI manage to eke out a 260+. The Castro-Kemar-Sammy trio should be able to extract as much from the pitch as their English counterparts or more. Excited abt this test!

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    777aditya:

    I could not agree with you more. You have spoken for many!

    Cheers!

  • POSTED BY Cheyne246 on | May 17, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    I'd say that for all the fuss made by the media, you would have thought that the Windies would have been rolled over for 120 before tea. A frail top order in unaccustomed conditions against the best bowling attack in the world after being sent in in overcast conditions and not a good showing in the warm up matches - are we really going to say that the number one team was really that good given all those factors against the lowly number 8? If Chanderpaul kept the strike in the last 20 minutes of the game WI could have been 250 for 7 looking to inch to 300 on day two. This series is going to be closer than many of the journalists are trying to write into being. If Fidel Edwards and Kemar Roach are anywhere near their best it will be very interesting

  • POSTED BY the_wallster on | May 17, 2012, 18:45 GMT

    @hersheybar - SA don't have any bowling depth. If you lose Morkel or Tahir who comes in for them? England have proven resources in Finn, Onions, Shazhad and Tremlett. Panesar as a back-up spinner. Boucher v Prior is no contest. I think Boucher averages 30 compared to Prior's 43. The top 6 is pretty even if you ask me.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Once again the day is saved, thanks to Shiv Chanders ... Evert time WI play a test match we here this report at least in one of the 5days of the test match.. So pathetic to watch the other players play..

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 18:06 GMT

    How frustrating is it to be a West Indies supporter?! Promising starts but no finishes, once again. Bravo, majestic, only to be cut down by his myopic team mate. Barath too looked handy enough but he and Samuels just lost patience. Shiv, you really needed to take that last over yourself, man. I look forward to seeing Kemar bowl tomorrow, if he's fit and firing this pitch will suit him.

  • POSTED BY KDoc on | May 17, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    I was listening to Micheal Holding and Mike Atherton comments that "Shiv Chanderpaul lives in his own little world, and is not a match winner" WHAT NONSENSE !! He might not be as flamboyant as Richards or Lara, but he keeps consistently doing his role/work: BAT AND MAKE RUNS. If the rest of the team, including Lara should consistently make runs then as a team, they will win; not the team depending on people like Lara, Gayle and Shiv to make runs while the rest of them tagging along, like they did against Australia 2012 Caribbean series, and here yet again in this First Test !!

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Given the present state of WI cricket it is critical that they employ a PROVEN world class Head Coach. Gibson is not a a PROVEN world class Head Coach.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | May 17, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    England's bowling was tight on an unusually dry pitch, Anderson could've had five himself, but Broad's omnipresent threat grabbed hold of the game for England. A great day for England.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 17, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    You'd have to give the honours to England for the day but WI haven't done as poorly as some may have predicted. I think England would have liked to have them all out by day's end but they're yet to score 250 so it's still not a bad result. WI were a little lucky with that LBW decision going Chanderpaul's way and England not reviewing but that's cricket. Well done to Broad but you'd have to count Anderson a little unlucky as he looked the most dangerous bowler for much of the day, especially as Swann put down a sitter. England still have to bat but given that the pitch hasn't done as much as they may have expected I think that they'll be very disappointed with anything less than a 100 first innings lead. They'd be thinking something more in the 200 range but WI bowlers may yet surprise them. There were some encouraging signs for WI for the second innings too, with their batsmen getting more used to the conditions. You'd expect a result though, barring rain.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    Chanders...and yet again....he is simply the best

  • POSTED BY 777aditya on | May 17, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    Christopher Gayle, Dwayne Bravo, Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Sunil Narine, and Dwayne Smith all deserve to be in the WI test team - it would really make a huge difference. Instead of playing IPL club cricket, they should play for their own country, money or no money. With these cricketers in the team, WI team would have given England a run for their money for sure - really very sad to see Chris Gayle scoring a century in IPL instead of at Lords

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | May 17, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    one more thing...

    who was the best bowler in the Warm up?

    why does the best bowler in the warm ups get dropped ?

    This was the same thing done in India .... Rampaul did not top the wickets standings becasue he did not play in all the games...

    when conditions favour Rampaul, he is dropped. .

    3rd or 4th time now ......

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | May 17, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    Decent stuff so far from WI. I'm sure that England would have been hoping for a minimum of 3 wickets in that first session, given that they put WI in with conditions fairly good for bowling. 2 wickets in the first hour after lunch had things looking good but WI gritted it out from there. England were lucky to get that run out but then WI were lucky that Bravo was still there after nicking to Swann. Fairly evenly poised so far I'd say. England would be keen to keep WI total below 250 but they'd probably need to get Chanderpaul soon after tea for that to happen. Swann has looked reasonably dangerous given that it's not a spinners' pitch, so he may be handy come the second innings. Broad and Bresnan haven't looked nearly as dangerous as Anderson so far, although Bresnan has kept it tight.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | May 17, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Adrian Barath always impress in the way he scores. However, he seems to be cut from the same cloth as Stuart Williams, another equally impressive looking opening batsman. Both have the penchant for making the most attractive 10's and 20's in Test Cricket ..At least Carl Hooper made attractive 20's and 30's.

    As for Gabriel , he is very lucky he is tall .. he is not ready for making the move to a higher level. He cannot get WI weak 1st class batsmen out. He bowls fast but does not hit the right areas often enough. Rampaul will forever be dropped, Rampaul's excellent lower order batting makes him a threat to Sammy.....Rampaul is the Best opening Bowler in the world... he almost always strikes in his 1st 3 overs.. and Sammy almost always drops a catch of Rampaul's bowling in the 1st 3 overs.

  • POSTED BY mrhamilton on | May 17, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    @godfrey peters I agree Holding has been particularly vicious and unbalanced in his assesment of Sammy in his recent outbursts. He has stated the team should have bravo snr, sarwan, nash,samuels, narine and gayle in it to be competitive , conveniently forgetting that gayle, sarwan,samuels and others of the so called experienced players have never won anything for the windies or showed any fight. I do think Gayle should walk straight in tho plus narine and pollard . Sarwan failed last summer so i dont understand why the clamour, big deal if he is doing well against 2nd string english county sides he doesnt deserve a chance ahead of edwards on that basis

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 14:26 GMT

    @ Solucien I wasn't thinking about Mr. Holding getting Dr. Hilaire angry with his comments. If u think little harder u might just decipher from where I'm coming. And then u may see the funny side. Maybe. But I accept yr comments.

  • POSTED BY mrhamilton on | May 17, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    @ the source I think u are being a little hysterical about the windies top 3. Breaking it down, Edwards one way or other has an average of 50 after 7 tests, powell scored a century in the warm up in england last week and barath just vindicated his selection with a 42, these 3 must be given time, as they have shown fight , even when out they have stuck around and tried to play a test match innings. gayle is badly needed and if he returns to test opener, than one of these young guns should become no 6 as samuels, and deonarine r hardly setting the world alight and pollard isnt being selected.U ask what shillingford did wrong but than u can ask what did bishoo do wrong, shillingford was selected 4 his home test in the windies he is lucky to be on this trip

  • POSTED BY Technical-1 on | May 17, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    Bravo should know.. Shiv will run him out.. To pad his average! He is too selfish to bat with. Sad.. Old phart keep paddng his averages and running out folks.. With his slow phart batting.

  • POSTED BY SoLucien on | May 17, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    @Godfrey Pieters. Michael Holding is one of the few commentators who tell its like it is whoever is playing. I agree that Sammy and by extension needs our full support and Holding is not alone in not being impressed with Sammy as a captain. I understand the concern you have but if Holding is going to hold is tongue for fear that he will earn the ire if Hilaire then he may as well stop commentary on West Indies cricket.

  • POSTED BY NJCC on | May 17, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    Another poor selection for WI team. Why would they leave out Deonarine after he has shown his importance to the team for not giving away his wicket like the top order. He is also an useful spinning option. Why play Gabriel who did not play any warm up matches and not SHILLINGFORD who had a good run in Australia and gives you a great spinning option. Powell is a fluke of a batsmen and is not ready to play test matches he needs to go back to first class cricket to find his form. Fudadin should have been given a shot to see if he can strengthen the top order. Why not even bring back Sarwan who is in terrfic form in England who has experience with England wickets. WI selection commitee will be the demise of them.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    A good effort from the WI. They just need to hang in. However my morning was spoiled by the timing of a comment made by Mr. M. Holding. He was making the statement that he thinks Sammy will be very effective with the ball in the ENG conditions, a view I share. Holding then went on to say for some inexplicable reason, that he doesn't think that Sammy should even be in the WI team. Fine that is his opinion & he is not singular. My issue is the timing of the statement. A WI commentator making such a comment on the 1st day of a series & the WI r the gross underdogs. The ENG press battering the WI team. The last thing players &fans want to hear is such a comment coming from a former WI player. WI & Sammy need all the support. I expected better from Mr. Holding. I could imagine what Dr. Hilaire might have said on hearing those comments.

  • POSTED BY hersheybar on | May 17, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    Wow, just watched SKY Sport 1 analysis of the morning session. The matched Eng and SA's test teams and compared them. I couldn't believe my ears. They reckon that Eng's the better team and that SA doesn't have any bowling depth... I hope you eat some humble pie this summer. Go Windies!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | May 17, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    WI will be pretty pleased to have survived till lunch with only two down. Good effort by Barath and Bravo.

  • POSTED BY guptahitesh4u on | May 17, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    it was just the first session of the series and the comments about No.1 has started to flourish...you guyz could have waited for end of first day's play if not for the series..I mean, 83/2 in first session of a day is a winning position for neither WI nor eng.. Its cricket and anything can happen in next 14 sessions. So just wait & watch for now

  • POSTED BY TheSource on | May 17, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    WI continue to suffer from incompetent team selection picking players by numbers. Did the selectors not see the warm game with Edwards struggling and out of his depth. Did they not see the likely problem at the top with Barath, Powell and Edwards (3 quick possible wickets)? Okay Powell got a Hundred, but just look back to Australia in the West Indies to see WI problem at the top. A more important question for the selectors is what is Deonarine and Shillingford do wrong? How could you play Gabriel in from of him, when you did not play Gabriel in the warm up game? And how can those 3, Barath, Powell and Edwards play in front of Deonarine, especially that Shillingford is out and he give an extra spinning option? Can anyone educate me about WI selection panel? I wish WI the best.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    Same old story, WI start poorly, they could be bowled out before the day ends.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 17, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    @Muhamad Rameez on (May 17 2012, 10:31 AM GMT) So who does deserve to be number 1? SA are drawing most of their test series , most of which are at home. Aus are drawing home series vs lowly ranked NZ , India have just lost 8 away matches in a row and Pak are not even playing anyone of note away from their adopted home and while they were superb vs a poor Eng side they've not beaten any of the other top 4 sides at home.Most recent results vs top 4 sides show Eng drew in SA , W 3-1 in Australia and beat India (then number 1) 4-0 at home.

  • POSTED BY A_Yorkshire_Lad on | May 17, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    @Muhamad Rameez - but England ARE number 1 !!!!! Whether you like it or not.

  • POSTED BY RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on | May 17, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    agree with Muhammad Rameez

    south afriica are the best team in da world england just marginally better dan aus den the remaining

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    england don,t deserve to be number 1.simply bcoz of what happened to them during tour of uae.they are so much over rated team.

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  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    england don,t deserve to be number 1.simply bcoz of what happened to them during tour of uae.they are so much over rated team.

  • POSTED BY RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on | May 17, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    agree with Muhammad Rameez

    south afriica are the best team in da world england just marginally better dan aus den the remaining

  • POSTED BY A_Yorkshire_Lad on | May 17, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    @Muhamad Rameez - but England ARE number 1 !!!!! Whether you like it or not.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | May 17, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    @Muhamad Rameez on (May 17 2012, 10:31 AM GMT) So who does deserve to be number 1? SA are drawing most of their test series , most of which are at home. Aus are drawing home series vs lowly ranked NZ , India have just lost 8 away matches in a row and Pak are not even playing anyone of note away from their adopted home and while they were superb vs a poor Eng side they've not beaten any of the other top 4 sides at home.Most recent results vs top 4 sides show Eng drew in SA , W 3-1 in Australia and beat India (then number 1) 4-0 at home.

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    Same old story, WI start poorly, they could be bowled out before the day ends.

  • POSTED BY TheSource on | May 17, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    WI continue to suffer from incompetent team selection picking players by numbers. Did the selectors not see the warm game with Edwards struggling and out of his depth. Did they not see the likely problem at the top with Barath, Powell and Edwards (3 quick possible wickets)? Okay Powell got a Hundred, but just look back to Australia in the West Indies to see WI problem at the top. A more important question for the selectors is what is Deonarine and Shillingford do wrong? How could you play Gabriel in from of him, when you did not play Gabriel in the warm up game? And how can those 3, Barath, Powell and Edwards play in front of Deonarine, especially that Shillingford is out and he give an extra spinning option? Can anyone educate me about WI selection panel? I wish WI the best.

  • POSTED BY guptahitesh4u on | May 17, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    it was just the first session of the series and the comments about No.1 has started to flourish...you guyz could have waited for end of first day's play if not for the series..I mean, 83/2 in first session of a day is a winning position for neither WI nor eng.. Its cricket and anything can happen in next 14 sessions. So just wait & watch for now

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | May 17, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    WI will be pretty pleased to have survived till lunch with only two down. Good effort by Barath and Bravo.

  • POSTED BY hersheybar on | May 17, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    Wow, just watched SKY Sport 1 analysis of the morning session. The matched Eng and SA's test teams and compared them. I couldn't believe my ears. They reckon that Eng's the better team and that SA doesn't have any bowling depth... I hope you eat some humble pie this summer. Go Windies!

  • POSTED BY on | May 17, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    A good effort from the WI. They just need to hang in. However my morning was spoiled by the timing of a comment made by Mr. M. Holding. He was making the statement that he thinks Sammy will be very effective with the ball in the ENG conditions, a view I share. Holding then went on to say for some inexplicable reason, that he doesn't think that Sammy should even be in the WI team. Fine that is his opinion & he is not singular. My issue is the timing of the statement. A WI commentator making such a comment on the 1st day of a series & the WI r the gross underdogs. The ENG press battering the WI team. The last thing players &fans want to hear is such a comment coming from a former WI player. WI & Sammy need all the support. I expected better from Mr. Holding. I could imagine what Dr. Hilaire might have said on hearing those comments.