England v West Indies, 1st ODI, West End June 16, 2012

Bell's comeback hundred sets up comfortable victory

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England 288 for 6 (Bell 126) beat West Indies 172 (Smith 56, Bresnan 4-34) by 114 runs (D/L method)
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Ian Bell won the battle of the replacement openers in the first one-day international as he marked his return to England's 50-over side with his second ODI hundred - nearly five years after his previous one - to earn the home side an early series advantage with a 114-run victory. Initially West Indies threatened in the chase with Dwayne Smith filling the void left by Chris Gayle's late injury but England's quicks burst through either side of a rain delay.

In some neat symmetry this was the same ground (albeit with a different name) where Bell made his only other ODI hundred - against India in 2007 - and this time he reached three figures from a lively 95 balls to suggest that the hole left by Kevin Pietersen's retirement will not be as vast as some had envisaged. A day after suffering a suspected fractured jaw, and needing 10 stitches after being hit in the nets, there was barely a false shot in the innings until he top-edged a slower ball from Dwayne Bravo when level with his career best having played gracefully to show, yet again, that one-day cricket is not all about brute force.

The opening partnership did not flourish with Alastair Cook was caught behind third ball against Ravi Rampaul but Bell ensured that the team's recent run of ODI hundreds continued; this was the fifth match in a row that one of the openers had reached three figures after the back-to-back efforts of Cook and Pietersen against Pakistan in the UAE.

England's final total of 288 for 6 was less than they may have hoped for after 30 overs when they were 163 for 3, but was still the second highest score batting first at this venue - and England's highest - after Craig Kieswetter produced some late boundaries along with Stuart Broad in a useful 43-run stand off 34 balls.

After the early loss of Lendl Simmons, Smith's innings included three boundaries in four deliveries against Steven Finn, the second of which was a pick-up over deep square-leg, and went past fifty off 38 balls. Longevity, though, has never been Smith's strength and and aiming another shot through the legs side got an edge off Bresnan. In one sense he had done his job, but it was also a missed opportunity to build a long innings. Bresnan struck again in his next over when he won an lbw against Denesh Ramdin - batting at No. 3 after Darren Bravo picked up a groin injury in the field - after the wicketkeeper had lurched to 22.

West Indies continued to play their shots with both Marlon Samuels and Dwayne Bravo collecting early boundaries but as rain started to fall Finn struck in the first over of his second spell by squaring up Bravo with a full delivery. In that one moment West Indies went from being ahead of the D/L par score to being behind it. The margin became even greater when Eoin Morgan plucked out Kieran Pollard's fierce cut at backward point. When Samuels clipped James Anderson to midwicket shortly after an hour's delay for rain, West Indies' last hope had gone. In total they lost 9 for 77 in 18 overs.

The foundation of England's total was laid by a second-wicket stand of 108 between Bell and Jonathan Trott, Warwickshire team-mates who used their understanding well to run hard between the wickets against some lacklustre West Indian fielding. The boundaries had been pushed right to edge of the playing area in anticipation of West Indies' power-packed batting order.

After the early loss of Cook, Bell gave England momentum when he took 18 off Andre Russell's third over which began with a sublime straight six and continued with three further boundaries around the ground. Pietersen, who tweeted support to his former team-mates during the day, could not have done it any better.

Bell had a nervous moment on 23 when Rampaul was convinced he had found the outside edge but umpire Richard Kettleborough said not out. Hot Spot did not show anything on replay although Snicko suggested at a thin edge. Two balls later Bell responded with a rasping square cut as Rampaul dropped short and wide.

Bell's timing and placement was effortless, but the going was tougher for Trott who had collected an early boundary through midwicket but had to wait until the 16th over for his second when Bravo drifted into the pads. As in the final Test, Sunil Narine did not overly trouble the top order - at one stage being reverse swept by Trott - but did break the partnership when Trott was caught behind cutting.

It was spin (or rather slow bowling) that continued to keep West Indies in touch when Ravi Bopara edged a cut against Samuels to end his first international innings of the season following injury. Samuels also claimed the important wicket of Morgan who chopped into his stumps after a promising start to his innings and a stand of 51 in eight overs with Bell. After a debilitating winter in all formats and an IPL spent warming the bench Morgan looked in decent form and with a far less pronounced squat at the crease than on his previous appearance. After the success of Bell, significant runs for Bopara and Morgan are the next boxes England will be looking to tick.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • JG2704 on June 19, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 19 2012, 08:15 AM GMT) - Yes we know what you were saying but the reason DRS and technology was implimented was to get rid of the clear decisions which the umpire gets wrong and not to overrule the umpires completely. That is why if a bowling side appeals and it is only clipping the stumps after the umpire gives it N/O then it is not a clear error by the umpire as there is still doubt. That is why I agree with the bowling side not losing a review if the ball is clipping because they are technically correct

  • A_Vacant_Slip on June 19, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @g.narsimha on (June 19 2012, 01:16 AM GMT) - you seem to be of opinion that cricket match does not count unless it is played in India. Also you have opinion that any India defeat in any other part of the world somehow does not count. All this is very odd. All cricket game count the same - whether you play in India or anywhere. The excuse; England didn't deserve to beat India 9-0 in all format last Summer because the game were not played in India, is not in fact an excuse at all. Time to man up and admit that ALL game of cricket count, and the away defeat count as well. Truth is - India hardly won any series away in any format in last 3 year. Mostly they lose.

  • lyl67 on June 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    In my comments yesterday, I meant that if the ball is just glancing the top of the stumps or glancing the leg stumps on a review all batsmen should be given out or not not out by the television umpire and not sent back to the on field original decision, there will be no grey areas and the DRS system has shown to be more correct than any umpire. Please sort this out because some batsmen are given out, others are given not out. This is not cricket. A batsman can go on to score a hundred whilst the other could be out for a naught, this cannot be right.

  • JG2704 on June 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    @g.narsimha -.Quite hard to make sense of your comms but one thing you clearly say is Eng were thrashed by SL in the 1st test - 75 runs.The closest India got to either Eng or Aus was 122 runs vs Aus. We were bad in UAE and SL in tests granted but bar the 1st test in UAE all 4 we lost were competitive and the 2nd SL test we won by 8 wkts which I'd say is a bigger margin than 75 runs so whichever way you look at it P5/LD/W1 surely betters P8/L8/W0 not to even go there with the margins of defeat. Oh and even inc our woeful India 5-0 ODI series our last 13 ODI/T20 overseas stats reads P13 W7/L6 which aint all that bad for a team who can only play at home. We were awful in ODIs in Ind and tests in UAE and SL (despite drawing the latter) so no need to keep reminding us and no need for us to keep reminding you of Indias recent record - agreed?

  • g.narsimha on June 19, 2012, 1:16 GMT

    5WOMBATS - U R all over here again making un desirable coments on INDIA IN ONE OF U R ABOVE COMENTS,'when ENG lose..... it doesnt happen so often as it does to one particular country THAT PARTICULAR COUNTRY OBIOUSLY I AM SURE INDIA' , than my simple quastion baring those 2 loses in ENG, AUS i can u tell me where did we lost all games, baring those home heroics when did u r great team beat us , u r also equally worse traveller when u comes to our part of the world even though u r yawning on present team but it also as recently proved they are not defferent from erlier teams when in ASIA , 4 LOSES ATA TROAT still yawning, great in an other post u refered our ASIA cup lose my dear we beat 2 top teams sl, pak had we been in final definatly it would have been india but no ifs & buts in cricket we lost to bd , see SL which lost all matches thrashed u in first test , now thrashed pak in odis , thats the home adventage as u enjoyed while winning against us in decads .

  • jmcilhinney on June 19, 2012, 1:09 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 18 2012, 16:14 PM GMT), like many, I also think that it would be a good idea if a review was not lost when the decision is "umpire's call" but the rest of your suggestion I'm not so sure about. Remember that what ball-tracking shows up to where the ball hit the pad actually happened but the path between the pad and the stumps is not real. It never actually happened so the "umpire's call" rule is an admission that, while ball-tracking does a good job of predicting the path of the ball, we can never be 100% certain that what it predicts is what would have happened. It has been decided that, in such cases, the evidence to overrule the on-field umpire cannot be considered conclusive. They have to draw the line somewhere and you cannot please all of the people all of the time. I'm happy enough with the way things are, apart from the loss of a review in those circumstances.

  • 5wombats on June 18, 2012, 22:41 GMT

    @maddy20. Great logic. But when exactly did India win anything away? It's so long ago that nobody can remember. Here's what the muddle headed wombats remember; @maddy20 busy telling us that England got whitewashed by Australia in 2006 and how humiliating that was. India got whitewashed by Australia AND England in short order in 2011/12. So @maddy20 - how humiliating is that? Or have you forgotten already?

  • JG2704 on June 18, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 18 2012, 16:14 PM GMT) I see where you're coming from. Personally I'm quite happy that marginal decs stay with the umpire but I do believe that a bowling side should not lose a review when the ball is clipping the stumps.

  • 5wombats on June 18, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    @jmchilhinney. That's right. According to some when England win it's because they were somehow advantaged by rain (not sure how that's possible, but there you go). Or it was because the umpires were biased to England (as if...). Or it was because they cheated because there was grass on the pitch. Etc, etc, etc. yawn. Worst of all when England win its because they are "home lions" (even though they win series in all formats all around the world). But when England lose - which doesn't happen to England as often as it does to one particular country, the response is "ha ha ha" just shows how rubbish England are. Some people need to look harder at the recent results of their own country. It's all getting a bit tedious really.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 18, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    @randyoz-it's bad news I am afraid(for you). Swann( that object of your derision) vs Warne. Yes you might blink but here are the Test stats for the great Shane Warne, vs 'sad punk' Swann, whom you deem so low. Warne: Tests 145, Inns275,Wkts 708@25.41,E 2.65,S/R 57.4, 10w 10,5w 37. Swann: Tests 44, Inns 80,Wkts 188@28.57, E 2.97,S/R 57.7, 10w 2,5w 13. Given that Warne is widely and officially regarded in the top 5 of ALL cricketers to have played the game, Swanny does not do a bad turn for a Pom. And he is a long way from finished even though the occasional long hop leaves his hand. I rest my case.

  • JG2704 on June 19, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 19 2012, 08:15 AM GMT) - Yes we know what you were saying but the reason DRS and technology was implimented was to get rid of the clear decisions which the umpire gets wrong and not to overrule the umpires completely. That is why if a bowling side appeals and it is only clipping the stumps after the umpire gives it N/O then it is not a clear error by the umpire as there is still doubt. That is why I agree with the bowling side not losing a review if the ball is clipping because they are technically correct

  • A_Vacant_Slip on June 19, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @g.narsimha on (June 19 2012, 01:16 AM GMT) - you seem to be of opinion that cricket match does not count unless it is played in India. Also you have opinion that any India defeat in any other part of the world somehow does not count. All this is very odd. All cricket game count the same - whether you play in India or anywhere. The excuse; England didn't deserve to beat India 9-0 in all format last Summer because the game were not played in India, is not in fact an excuse at all. Time to man up and admit that ALL game of cricket count, and the away defeat count as well. Truth is - India hardly won any series away in any format in last 3 year. Mostly they lose.

  • lyl67 on June 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    In my comments yesterday, I meant that if the ball is just glancing the top of the stumps or glancing the leg stumps on a review all batsmen should be given out or not not out by the television umpire and not sent back to the on field original decision, there will be no grey areas and the DRS system has shown to be more correct than any umpire. Please sort this out because some batsmen are given out, others are given not out. This is not cricket. A batsman can go on to score a hundred whilst the other could be out for a naught, this cannot be right.

  • JG2704 on June 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    @g.narsimha -.Quite hard to make sense of your comms but one thing you clearly say is Eng were thrashed by SL in the 1st test - 75 runs.The closest India got to either Eng or Aus was 122 runs vs Aus. We were bad in UAE and SL in tests granted but bar the 1st test in UAE all 4 we lost were competitive and the 2nd SL test we won by 8 wkts which I'd say is a bigger margin than 75 runs so whichever way you look at it P5/LD/W1 surely betters P8/L8/W0 not to even go there with the margins of defeat. Oh and even inc our woeful India 5-0 ODI series our last 13 ODI/T20 overseas stats reads P13 W7/L6 which aint all that bad for a team who can only play at home. We were awful in ODIs in Ind and tests in UAE and SL (despite drawing the latter) so no need to keep reminding us and no need for us to keep reminding you of Indias recent record - agreed?

  • g.narsimha on June 19, 2012, 1:16 GMT

    5WOMBATS - U R all over here again making un desirable coments on INDIA IN ONE OF U R ABOVE COMENTS,'when ENG lose..... it doesnt happen so often as it does to one particular country THAT PARTICULAR COUNTRY OBIOUSLY I AM SURE INDIA' , than my simple quastion baring those 2 loses in ENG, AUS i can u tell me where did we lost all games, baring those home heroics when did u r great team beat us , u r also equally worse traveller when u comes to our part of the world even though u r yawning on present team but it also as recently proved they are not defferent from erlier teams when in ASIA , 4 LOSES ATA TROAT still yawning, great in an other post u refered our ASIA cup lose my dear we beat 2 top teams sl, pak had we been in final definatly it would have been india but no ifs & buts in cricket we lost to bd , see SL which lost all matches thrashed u in first test , now thrashed pak in odis , thats the home adventage as u enjoyed while winning against us in decads .

  • jmcilhinney on June 19, 2012, 1:09 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 18 2012, 16:14 PM GMT), like many, I also think that it would be a good idea if a review was not lost when the decision is "umpire's call" but the rest of your suggestion I'm not so sure about. Remember that what ball-tracking shows up to where the ball hit the pad actually happened but the path between the pad and the stumps is not real. It never actually happened so the "umpire's call" rule is an admission that, while ball-tracking does a good job of predicting the path of the ball, we can never be 100% certain that what it predicts is what would have happened. It has been decided that, in such cases, the evidence to overrule the on-field umpire cannot be considered conclusive. They have to draw the line somewhere and you cannot please all of the people all of the time. I'm happy enough with the way things are, apart from the loss of a review in those circumstances.

  • 5wombats on June 18, 2012, 22:41 GMT

    @maddy20. Great logic. But when exactly did India win anything away? It's so long ago that nobody can remember. Here's what the muddle headed wombats remember; @maddy20 busy telling us that England got whitewashed by Australia in 2006 and how humiliating that was. India got whitewashed by Australia AND England in short order in 2011/12. So @maddy20 - how humiliating is that? Or have you forgotten already?

  • JG2704 on June 18, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    @lyl67 on (June 18 2012, 16:14 PM GMT) I see where you're coming from. Personally I'm quite happy that marginal decs stay with the umpire but I do believe that a bowling side should not lose a review when the ball is clipping the stumps.

  • 5wombats on June 18, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    @jmchilhinney. That's right. According to some when England win it's because they were somehow advantaged by rain (not sure how that's possible, but there you go). Or it was because the umpires were biased to England (as if...). Or it was because they cheated because there was grass on the pitch. Etc, etc, etc. yawn. Worst of all when England win its because they are "home lions" (even though they win series in all formats all around the world). But when England lose - which doesn't happen to England as often as it does to one particular country, the response is "ha ha ha" just shows how rubbish England are. Some people need to look harder at the recent results of their own country. It's all getting a bit tedious really.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 18, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    @randyoz-it's bad news I am afraid(for you). Swann( that object of your derision) vs Warne. Yes you might blink but here are the Test stats for the great Shane Warne, vs 'sad punk' Swann, whom you deem so low. Warne: Tests 145, Inns275,Wkts 708@25.41,E 2.65,S/R 57.4, 10w 10,5w 37. Swann: Tests 44, Inns 80,Wkts 188@28.57, E 2.97,S/R 57.7, 10w 2,5w 13. Given that Warne is widely and officially regarded in the top 5 of ALL cricketers to have played the game, Swanny does not do a bad turn for a Pom. And he is a long way from finished even though the occasional long hop leaves his hand. I rest my case.

  • maddy20 on June 18, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    @Valavan Correct me if I am wrong, but ENgland and Australia too won at home. I do not remember when was the last time these two teams won a series in India. Australia was whipped 2-0 twice and England has not won a series since my dad was 6! So you mean England and Aus winning at home holds more weight than England winning at home! my bad. I didn't know that!

  • lyl67 on June 18, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    when a batsman is bowled sometimes reviews show that the ball is hitting the stumps, the decision should be referred to the off- field umpire, if the ball is hitting the stumps all batsman should be given out or not out, it should be one way or the other therefore their will be no grey areas with this particular decision and the fielding side should not lose their review, especially as the ball is shown to be hitting the stumps.This is common sense and should be implemented immediately.

  • SoLucien on June 18, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Congratulations to England on a very good win. They played as a team and its good to see team play superceding individual achievements. WI lost because Eng was the better team on the day. We can put forward a long list of reasons for the loss but the simple fact is that our players just do not know how to plays as a team in the trying moments of a game. Good teams like Eng dont just run up and bowl and hope something happens, they work out their strategies for each player and if it doesnt work they re-strategise until something works. They dont just go to the crease and hope and pray for a good total, they plan, prepare and execute. Irrespective of who plays you cant approach a match only hope and prayers. You have to be prepared and be prepared to adjust. if our top 6 batsmen commit to making at least 50 runs that 300 runs on the board. I know its not as simple as i make it sound but we need to get back basics.

  • jmcilhinney on June 18, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    This WI tour is starting to resemble India's last year, with Darren Bravo now flying home with an injury. Mind you, he hasn't shown a great deal of form outside of the recent tour match and he's not the fastest scorer in the team so, if they had to lose someone, he may be the best choice. If Gayle is fit and WI get another real bowler into the team then they can still make a good contest of the next game. I doubt they'll be wearing any favourite tags this time around though.

  • g.narsimha on June 18, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    VALVAN-Agreed INDIA whitewashed ENG in odis in INDIA than on the same token where did ENG, AUS white washed INDIA is it in india no my dear they too w hite washed us in thier own backyard , ENG which could not win any thing against us in decades in hpome & away won hansomly in their confort zone , so all are stronger in home conditions , let wait & see whow they will fare in INDIA

  • on June 18, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    It's no secret that the Windies players detest playing cricket in the miserable weather that took place Saturday gone. But that can't be used as a excuse i'm afraid, they simply got outplayed in all departments and as well as the bowling being indifferent, you gotta give credit to Ian bell's innings. He played cricket-shots and still went at a rate of more than a run-a-ball. Dwayne Smith looked good, some of his strokes were brilliantly dismissive and it's a shame that he couldn't go on, from such a promising start, had he done so, one of the other batsmen could've supported him and made a fist of chasing that total, but in the end, England's nagging accuracy proved to be too much. Hopefully Gayle will be back for the Oval and either Best or Edwards has to share the newball with Rampaul. The weather should be okay for tomorrow but doesn't bode well for the rest of the week. Let's hope we see a more competitve match this time.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 18, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    @RandyOZ, bet its not as much as we laugh when watching Lyon trying to bowl his little tweakers. The only reason Lyons stats look so good is because he took almost a quarter (10) of his wickets against a weak NZ team @ 12.5/wicket, take them out of the Equation and his average is 32.59

  • RandyOZ on June 18, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - Statchin! Classic! Great call mate that gave me a real chuckle, almost laughed as hard as I did watching Swann attempt to bowl against the Windies!

  • yorkshirematt on June 18, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    @dravid gravitas Ha ha elephant in the dressing room I quite like that. Sums it up nicely really

  • anver777 on June 18, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    Well played !!! a gutsy knock by Bell !!!!!

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on June 18, 2012, 10:12 GMT

    @ Front-Foot-Lunge - yup , same old same old same old ! :) Actually , it's all rather sad , really. What bleak bitter lives some people must lead..

  • Lmaotsetung on June 18, 2012, 9:21 GMT

    One year later Indian fans still haven't gotten over their nightmare of a tour. Don't you guys have an India A tour of WI to follow. How are the next generation of batsmen doing there? You know the ones you guys were pushing to replace the aging legends, the Rahane, Mukund, Pujara, etc. How are they doing against a young WI attack that are nowhere near ready to play international cricket and who are just getting their feet wet in first class cricket eh?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on June 18, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    @5wombats, India didn't make it to the finals of Asia Cup courtesy only one selfish bloke - that's Statchin Tendulkar. He laboured his way to a 140 ball 100 runs and gobbled up nearly half the team's innings to score a mere hundred runs. His pedestrian century cost us dearly. But then again, I would be committing blasphemy by talking like this about 'god'. Little do we Indians realise that he is the elephant in the dressing room as Sanjay Manjrekar aptly put it.

  • 5wombats on June 18, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    @bigwonder on (June 16 2012, 18:36 PM GMT) Why are you so bothered about England playing outside of England? You claim that; "England are lions in their own den" so, how do you explain England winning ODI series in UAE 4-0, how do you explain England winning recent ODI series in SA. How do you explain England winning Test series in Australia and how do you explain England drawing the Test series in Sri Lanka and South Africa? This isn't boasting - this is FACT. England's away record is pretty decent. You need to be more bothered about what happens when india play outside of india - because their away record in all formats is shocking. india even went to Bangladesh in the Asia cup and lost there as well, failing to make the final. It is never interesting to watch india play outside of india. When india play"real cricket" in countries outside of india they lose. That's why it isn't interesting. BTW the excuses aren't interesting either....

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on June 18, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Amidst the nit-picking, some guys are losing focus that England played fantastic all-round cricket though it's the Windies that was packed with all-rounders. Bell played an absolute gem of an innings. A little luck from umpires or fielders can't take it away. Since when a little luck is being held against the batsmen? If that's the case, many runs from Kallis, Dravid, Lara, VVS, Sachin, Taylor, Ricky, Waugh etc have to be discounted as well. So move on folks. England backed up Bell with an equally fantastic bowling effort. Please stop complaining about that D/L thingy I say.

  • MrBrightside92 on June 18, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    Very good words Mr D-G...and England didn't take a second string team to India...we just got mashed by a very good team in their element. You can't compare the two series between WI-Eng...and Aus-WI..Eng would've struggled in those conditions to post good scores. WI seem very India like with match winning batsmen...but weak bowlers..glad to see that Eng bowling line up...obviously Flower taking ODI's seriously which is right..some people on here may say ODI's don't matter but they very much do (though there is a few too many of them). RandyOz..like your 'undermanned' term..is this a new phrase...usually it's WI B side or some such...

  • JG2704 on June 18, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    @Rally_Windies on (June 17 2012, 15:19 PM GMT) I previously answered this (June 16 2012, 23:17 PM GMT) and now jmcilhinney on (June 18 2012, 07:02 AM GMT) has also answered it again. If you are going to moan about/query something then please at least have the decency to read those who have taken the time out to explain things. Also it does say in the report that Ramdin came in at 3 after Bravo picked up an injury in the report.

  • JG2704 on June 18, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    @Nampally on (June 17 2012, 14:36 PM GMT) With the obvious exception of Gayle , this was by and large the sort of team most fans were publishing as their team with Simmons,Smith,Narine,Bravo and Russell all playing and before the game there were many comms saying WI would thrash Eng etc. Grass isn't always greener

  • JG2704 on June 18, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    @navjot2000 on (June 17 2012, 11:53 AM GMT) re "stop making excuses" going on to say "It was clear rain was on the horizon, West Indies plans went all awry as they feared they were behind D/L, went all aggressive, lost wickets, games over. ODIs should be banned in England, we will will never get a full proper game." For someone who says about making excuses ... Amazing comments , absolutely stunning. Please publish

  • jmcilhinney on June 18, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    @Rally_Windies on (June 17 2012, 15:19 PM GMT), you need to pay attention. Darren Bravo could not some in earlier than 7 because he was off the field for so long while WI were bowling. Once a player has been off the field past a particular length of time then there are restrictions on when they can bat or bowl. I'm not sure of the specifics with bowling but they can't bat until the same amount of time has passed or five wickets fall, whichever comes first. He actually came in at 9 though, so I cam only assume that WI felt the same way you do and wanted the bigger hitters, i.e. Sammy & Russell, in before him.

  • Valavan on June 18, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    @maddy20, oh ye India whitewashed england in ODIs but where, is it in England or in Australia, IT WAS IN INDIA. remember that. @Nampally, ye westindies lacked variety, not now since the retirement of Ambrose and Walsh they lacked variety, they were playing their available 11 against India in India in 2011, Didnt they lack variety there, or did they field a champion team against India. Take a break instead whining with irrelevant information. Lot of sour grapes Nampallllly. cricinfo please publish.

  • maddy20 on June 18, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    @Nampallyy "WI bowling lacked variety. How could an England team without KP get 280 runs?" Its simple. 1) They are playing at home 2)The opposition team is stupid enough to think they can win without their best batsman 3) They are playing against a team ranked no .8 . Now we have all seen what happened to the poms in India. Didn't we?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on June 18, 2012, 2:46 GMT

    It's a funny argument. When England chases D/L benefits them. When England defends D/L benefits them again. How? Simple fact is that England did well to chase and defend during D/L. Why can't you guys look at it in such a fair manner? Well played England. Take a bow Ian Bell.

  • jmcilhinney on June 18, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    @RandyOZ on (June 17 2012, 14:30 PM GMT), I'm not quite sure why you keep trying to pretend I wasn't here during the UAE series. Maybe one of your other personalities was in charge at the time, or maybe you just see what you want to see. As for KP being English and my living in Australia, it's a slightly different kettle of fish. Maybe you can't see the difference with your one eye. I was actually going to support Australia in the first Ashes that was played after we emigrated but my dad said that the Aussies were whiners and bad sports and we were going for England. You have single-handedly justified my choice to go along with that all those years ago. Many thanks. I do support Australia in many other sports, e.g. basketball, but in cricket my first team is England and my second team is whoever is playing Australia.

  • jmcilhinney on June 18, 2012, 1:30 GMT

    @tonobwoy on (June 17 2012, 20:02 PM GMT), blah blah blah. Whether or not that's the case isn't really the point. Did you not watch the other 116 balls he faced?

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 17, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    Sorry to say it but it is complete loser's mentality to harp on about Bell having touched one when on 23. The evidence to support this is so thin that to place so much on it is quite frankly sad. Umpires are well enough trained these days to just acccept their decisions quietly. I am not being authoritarian here but pointing out the situation as it is. Bell played superbly as only he can and he easily fulfilled my expectation of him as an opener. Quite frankly England won the game properly by setting 289, and then having 5 test bowlers to bring WI down. Simple. Please don't whinge.

  • on June 17, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    I'm loving this!I love watching WI get whitewashed in all forms.The 2000 tour to Australia was the best memory in my life.Though England didn't have the stomach like the Aussies of then,they battered them 2-0.I hope this ODI series is a whitewash win for England and WI make below 50 in one of the matches.Lets hope Gayle is ruled out of this series!

  • tonobwoy on June 17, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    jmcilhinney, ''' It was about as fluent a century as you'll see.''' IT WAS NOT. THE UMPIRES GAVE HIM A LIFE AT 23. he was given not out when he was CLEARLY OUT.

  • Metman on June 17, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    @ Mar 2000 ! I don,t buy it either ! the saga of Gayles' return is running TRUE to form !

  • mar2000 on June 17, 2012, 15:51 GMT

    If "Big Bird" did not removed Dwayne Smith from being the Barbados captain and installed Kirk Edwards , now would have been the time to put a strong case for SMITTY to be the 20/20 , ODI captain .Remember all 3 selectors resign over this issue . Funny how things go, now Kirk cannot even make the final eleven .( SAD BUT TRUE).

  • Rally_Windies on June 17, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    the WI management clearly does not know enough about cricket to deserve their jobs ...

    Darren Bravo, coming off a 100, and the slowest batsman on the team who is not capable of bashing at the death, comes in to bat at 7 ?

    are they serious ?

    Darren Batting at 4, could have made all the difference.

    It also seems to me, that Narine was the only bowler picked ? they played almost a full team of alrounders ?

    the Bowling sucked ...

  • Nampally on June 17, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    WI bowling lacked variety. How could an England team without KP get 280 runs? Sammy is almost a non playing captain & plays mainly as a bowler. But if he cannot get any wickets, why not have an alternate captain & reinforce the bowling. English pitches favour pace bowling. Tino Best is the fastest WI bowler @150 KPH and can bat better than Sammy. In fact he should be the first choice of fast bowlers. Can Bell play his pace? Include 2 other seamers say Fidel Edwards & Rampal.If Pollard is included, utilise his all round skills instead of wasting him as in this ODI, where he did not bowl.Gayle ia a good spinner too. If he is fit & plays in the next ODI, use Gayle, Narine & Samuels in spin.3 Seamers & 3 spinners with Smith, Gayle, Samuels, Bravo,Chanderpal as batsmen + Ramdin, Pollard/ Dwayne Bravo/Sammy, 3 seamers & Narine will be a good balanced team.Without Gayle at the top WI team is very weak in batting. He needs to play & click in order for WI to put up a good total.

  • RandyOZ on June 17, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    @JG you must be devastated. Looks to have cemented his spot and with little to no talent hot on his heels he will stay there for a while. @jmc - welcome back. I know you live in Australia but good to see you back in the comments after a quiet period during the UAE and first half of the SL tour. By the way, if you are so adament KP is English, by the same token, should you not now be an Aussie supporter?

  • on June 17, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    The Windies just lost their way,outplayed by England completely. I wasn,t aware that Chanders is back in the Caribbean. The addition of another genuine quickie will help,but batting is the fraility of this team, I am not going to say much more at this time. Second best is not acceptable, tired of losing matches.

  • Indiaforever on June 17, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    The main reason WI lost was because Gayle wasn't playing and the batting lline up was messed up. Why bring Ramdin at 3? It was the perfect chance for Samuels to play at 3 and guide the team through as Darren Bravo was injured. The talent is there for WI, now they have to start performing!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 17, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    @RandyOz: What did you think of his Century though?..............................

    same old eh?

    :)

  • whatawicket on June 17, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    how can the D/L system be blamed for the WI loss. there was so little change to the match. WI won the toss ad choice to bat their thinking was if the game was curtailed they would have the benefit, same reason as cook would have done. im not even sure that the umps needed to alter the games structure.to say the WI batters changed their outlook on the game is nonsensical. they had to many bits and pieces cricketers playing. one front line pace bowler in pampaul and nothing else, in england thats not the way to go, the WIs should know that. they need another 2 pacers, maybe best but he can be all over the place, and if you think his one in 100 years knock will help their batters improve a total. if the coach in anyway shape or form thought that he could, he would have been selected.

  • Bramblefly on June 17, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    @navjot 2000 - Why would jmcilhenny or England have to make excuses for winning? A West Indian side of big hitters were bowled out by a strong English attack. They tried to play their natural game; England in the field were more than equal to it. The weather didn't come imto it (D/L is supposed to favour the chasing side in the Indian view of things. Remember the complaints last year?). As for banning ODIs in England, conditions are what they are and great sides learn to win in all of them. I would never dream of suggesting banning them on sub-continental raging turners.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    @RandyOZ on (June 17 2012, 13:40 PM GMT), hahaha! I'm guessing that you didn't actually watch the game but feel free to make up adjectives for Bell's innings nonetheless. I was at the SCG when Ponting made his long-awaited hundred against India. I know what a scratchy century looks like. This was not. It was about as fluent a century as you'll see. Boundaries aplenty, shots all around the ground, good running between the wickets, runs off all bowlers (even that Narine fellow who so bamboozled Australia recently). A pleasure to watch as it happens. Sorry you missed it. I guess we'll know soon enough how Bell will perform against a proper opponent because there's an ODI series against SA coming up.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    @venkatesh018 on (June 17 2012, 11:35 AM GMT), I'm not sure whether you mean this game specifically or OD cricket in general but no, not everyone finds it boring. I love Test cricket and I enjoy T20 cricket as well and I find that OD cricket combines some of the good aspects of both. It moves at a faster pace than Test cricket so can provide additional excitement but it also has a tactical aspect that T20 lacks.

  • RandyOZ on June 17, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    Cue Ian Bell getting another extended period in the team and failing again when it counts (esp. overseas), despite a scratchy century against undermanned opponents.

  • on June 17, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    It is about time the WICB embrace the concept of different captains for the different formats of the game. This is not a case of " monkey see monkey do", but one of" 50,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong". The reasons for such a move include the foll. 1.Hectic play schedule. 2.Exposing different players to the role of captaincy. 3.Providing opportunities for more players to be part of the team. Possible choices are: DJ Bravo; Edwards; Ramdin(don't write him off); Samuels; Gayle; & DR Smith. What do u think?

  • on June 17, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    The question was asked. Why would any team play Sammy, Russell & DJ Bravo in the same match, after all they r bowlers similar in style & pace? Simple. They were selected primarily to strengthen the indifferent & inconsistent batting of the WI team. The selectors were hoping that the 3 players together would have given the team a t least a total of 75+ runs & 3+ wickets. To me that was the thought process behind the selection. WI batting as we all know has been the problem for quite awhile & the idea of the more the merrier was applied here. It didn't work this time. Hopefully the next time.

  • mar2000 on June 17, 2012, 12:17 GMT

    For the next ODI I will play TINO BEST and drop RAMDIN and let SIMMONS keep wicket. Bring in GAYLE for Young BRAVO. The Gayle foot injury thing ..... I don't buy it. Good luck WI.

  • jr2012 on June 17, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    @ jmcilhinney

    It was obvious, stop making excuses. It was clear rain was on the horizon, West Indies plans went all awry as they feared they were behind D/L, went all aggressive, lost wickets, games over. ODIs should be banned in England, we will will never get a full proper game.

  • jr2012 on June 17, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    As usual rain saves England in ODis in England.

  • on June 17, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    Everyone who WI thought about was select. They had a chance. WI will play the same team a second time. Then they will look around once more because there is no one else in the farm. Fans, please stop selecting teams for WI. It is a waste of time. The same way Gayle resolved his issues withe the WICB, there has to be some compromise or settlement with Taylor and Sarwan to bring back a more mature and experience team. The likes of Gayle, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Taylor has to be the foundation. Select the rest on present 'in form' performance. WI keep trying everything and there is no light in the Tunnel. I still do not understand why Deonarine did not make this team. It seem as now WI has an excess of middle orders who are not consistent but are lucky to get selected. SA, Australia and England selects their team on Merit and Performance. When will WI learn. This battle will continue to plague WI cricket. Send to whole lot of them to Sajicor. The answer is still two teams, two captain

  • venkatesh018 on June 17, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    I saw the match on TV, just a few overs of both innings. And the only feeling I got every ball was "What a Bore this One-day game is". Does everybody feel the same?

  • richardror on June 17, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    @Stark62. You have your facts completely wrong. It was England who smashed India in the ODI's after the 4-0 win in the test series, and then England who sent a reserve team to India, with India having their strongest side out.

  • yorkshire-86 on June 17, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    West Indies seem too obsessed with having as many players who can bowl in thier XI as possible - you only need your 5 best bowlers in a ODI. As a result thier attack was mediocre - Rampaul was thier only front line bowler, Sammy is just a trundler, Russell is simply cannon fodder, Narine is untried. Part time bowling is not like part time batting - if Bell gets out its handy to have Broad to come in, but you *would* rather have another Bell if you had the choice, while with bowlers if Anderson gets hit you have Bopara who can bowl *a bit* but you would rather have Anderson - and you can keep bowling Anderson so there is no need for Bopara.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    It seems like every time D/L is involved (some of) the fans of the losing team claim they were robbed and England were just lucky. Last summer against India, England won the toss and put India in and several games were shortened due to rain. On three of those occasions England won and on one occasion it was a tie. In the tied game, Bopara and Swann were batting during rain that was at least as bad as it was here. They had to go off twice and they're methods were undoubtedly affected. That's the game where Bopara went for a big hit and was caught on the boundary when if he had blocked it and not got out England would have won. At the time, many Indian fans were telling us that England were just lucky and were saved every game by D/L. Now, the situation is completely reversed, i.e. England lost the toss and had to bat first, and yet we're being told again (by some) that they were just lucky and were saved by D/L. Makes perfect sense... or, maybe England played better.

  • enigma12345 on June 17, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    @JG2704 i think adithya ragu is correct at present simmons is a keeper who can bat .adithya have no other choices

  • The_bowlers_Holding on June 17, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    jmcilhinney re:Kwagga Bell did say he felt a slight nick (BBC sport) saying that with the very blustery conditions that is retrospectively so at the time may not have felt so. The modern game with DRS, hot spot and the like takes the decision from the player rather, and for those still bleating about Dravid there was no such technology in place v India at the insistence of India.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    Front-Foot-Lunge on (June 17 2012, 09:48 AM GMT), if you're referring to whom I think you're referring to, don't be too harsh. After all, Australia scored just as many hundreds against WI in their recent 5-game ODI series as Ian Bell did in this game.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    @TheHoneymonster, re Cook, he looks that way to me for the first couple of overs of every innings. It seems like he always wafts at a few early and if he's lucky enough to get through that period then he remembers how to bat and scores a hundred. re Trott, he did hit his first ODI 6 in Cardiff and I also recall an innings (I think that it was in India during that last 0-5 series) where he came out and hit a run a ball 60 or so. Many people have called for his head but it's hard to drop a guy with a 50 average when the team aren't winning. I think he should stay but, as England (hopefully) get more consistent as an ODI outfit, I think that he has to override his natural instinct to accumulate for long periods and do as Cook has done, i.e. reinvent himself as a genuine ODI batsman. We've seen him do it. As you say, we just need to see him do it more often.

  • Stark62 on June 17, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    @ Richardor

    The same team, that got beat 5-0 against a second string Indian team in ODI's and let's not forget the 3-0 drubbing against Pak.

  • on June 17, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    One sparrow does not a summer make. We were comprehensively beaten by the better team on the day.Congratulations to England. I think W.I. must play either Fidel or Tino for their sheer pace. We missed Gayle's contribution in the bowling as well as batting.We also lost our composure too easily.We must have self-belief and show more grit.Are we not the torch holders of the great W.I. teams of the past. Remember' Fire in ah Babylon'. Proud sons of the Caribbean stand up and represent your people. We are depending on you.We demand it!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 17, 2012, 9:48 GMT

    There's a few people with egg on their faces this morning, isn't there? :)

  • SDHM on June 17, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    JMC- also on your point about Trott; if I remember rightly, he picked his bat and and spanked a couple of sixes against India at Cardiff last year. Sophia Gardens is a big outfield, so he can certainly clear the ropes - my question is, if he can do it, why on earth don't we see him do it more often?

  • SDHM on June 17, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    JMC - Cook to me looks like he's in one of those patches where he looks as if he's never held a bat before, which usually means we're put through a torturous hundred as he gets back into form! Not looking forward to that first innings at The Oval at this rate...

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    @Kwagga97 on (June 17 2012, 08:26 AM GMT), exactly what facts are you talking about? I was watching the game and I've been reading CricInfo and ECB.co.uk since and I've not heard or read any such admission. Exactly where did you hear or read it?

  • JG2704 on June 17, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    @Bruisers on (June 17 2012, 02:26 AM GMT) I don't remember the exact score when the rain started to came down. I reckon it would have been about 100-3 and yes WI looked OK - possibly favourites. But they would still have needed a further 180 odd runs with 7 wickets in hand which certainly wouldn't be a gimme for any team - let alone a team who have had a rep for throwing wickets away. As Lloyd commented , the rain was always likely to pass over so WI needed to up the tempo but not panic. It probably was about 50/50 when the rains started coming down (and that's not taking into account the batting side being prone to implode) . The thing I will agree on is that WI would almost certainly have got much closer had the rain not come down

  • JG2704 on June 17, 2012, 8:36 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas on (June 17 2012, 03:47 AM GMT) Mate , see my posts (June 16 2012, 17:38 PM GMT) and (June 16 2012, 23:17 PM GMT) . Bell was superb in this game and did what he always had the ability to do. Previously he'd always had a mediocre average scoring at a mediocre SR. Yesterday he did the opposite. I just hope that he doesn't revert to previous form .

  • richardror on June 17, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    England currently the best test, ODI and t20 team in the world

  • Kwagga97 on June 17, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    @WhoCaresAboutIPL: Check the facts, Bell admitted afterwards he felt a thin edge behind only for umpire Richard Kettleborough to give him not out.

  • Kwagga97 on June 17, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    Bell may have enjoyed a few pats on the back for scoring a century but he lost many supporters' respect for not walking after edging behind. Fairness has always been the mantra promoted by the game and if actions reflect character his is obviously questionable. If he wants to be remembered as a cricketer he can learn a lot from guys like Hayden and Gilchrist who played hard but fair.

  • WhoCaresAboutIPL on June 17, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    All those who seem to insist Ia Bell was out, then remember this - there was no hotspot, so even if he had been given out he could (and would) have appealed and then he would have been reprieved! Why does Cricinfo allow all these hypotheticals? Mentioners of last summer's Indian tour and the various apparent anomalies should remember there was no DRS in operation....

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    The England bowling in general was fairly good. Bresnan again went about his business with little fan fair. Finn was perhaps a little wayward but still managed to keep his economy below 5 after being taken to by Smith. Swann's first over was ugly but he pulled it together after that. Anderson and Broad continued to do what they do. One bowled, two LBW and two caught behind is an indication of relatively accurate bowling.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    Talk of Bell and KP has dominated with regards to England but what else can we England fans take from this game? Cook was out cheaply but he's not exactly out of form so there's every reason to believe that he has some big scores ahead. He seems very much to be an all-or-nothing batsman with many big scores, many small scores and not much in between. Trott looked comfortable and was playing the anchor while Bell was scoring easily but, while all batsmen tend to start slower and then accelerate, Trott can let the slow period drag on more than many. I still think he's capable of picking up the pace a bit. Bopara didn't really contribute so he'll want to change that or he'll likely see Bairstow taking his place. Morgan looked comfortable enough but is likely to play better innings this summer. Kieswetter, Bresnan and Broad all made nice little contributions towards the end, although Kieswetter did get a bit bogged down for a while.

  • on June 17, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    Ian Bell's Record

    M R HS Av SR H F ODIs 109 3360 126* 35.00 74.20 2 19

    Both the hundreds in "England". I can't understand what is this swooning over Ian Bell? Is this record even "good"? Ian Bell has to prove a lot before he can be considered "good" in ODIs.

  • SL_BiggestJoke on June 17, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    "Hot Spot did not show anything on replay although Snicko suggested at a thin edge"... Dravid was given out on evidence like this many times last year. Home team umpiring advantage? sounds like junior school matches :))

  • SL_BiggestJoke on June 17, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    D/L method is a joke and should be replaced by a better approach. Alternatives are already available for trials.

  • AKS286 on June 17, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    WI lost to eng. BUT eng batting is not looking impressive to win the WC. even not looking capable to beat SA, Oz, IND, SL, Nz. except cook and bell others are not capable to score big runs & face the pressure.

  • AMAZINGFAN on June 17, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    come on windies,beat the poms and prove that u r force to reckon with.best of luck for next odi.hope chrsi gayle plays in next game.

  • Sinhaya on June 17, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    @Bruisers, I fully agree with you. Only 8 quality teams exists in the test arena. But I hope and pray that Zimbabwe and Bangladesh will reach par level soon.

  • Sinhaya on June 17, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    @sobersfan, spinners will do well in England if it is sunny and not when it is cloudy. Murali excelled in England for the first time in 1998 August when it was the real summer time.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    With regards to my common on (June 17 2012, 04:12 AM GMT), I meant that WI were NOT behind the D/L par score until they started losing wickets. I should proof read better before submitting. :-(

  • 200ondebut on June 17, 2012, 5:43 GMT

    Great result for England. Well done Tinker!

  • on June 17, 2012, 5:35 GMT

    Why win the toss and not bat first ? Stupid Stupid Stupid

  • on June 17, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    bell was clearly out. Dravvid was consistently being given out of noise basis. what happened in one year. different yardsticks for home players.

  • tappee74 on June 17, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Mr Gibson,don't you see the importance of Chanderpaul?He has made 11 one day hundreds with an average of over 40.Why he is not in the team?This is either poor foresight,or blatant abuse of power.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    Any talk of stripping WI of any international privileges is the work of fools. WI have definitely made progress, although I'm sure that WI fans are sick of hearing that. The fact is though, it's much easier to go from loser to competitive than it is to go from competitive to winner. England have managed to do it in Test cricket although it took some years and they are still not really there in ODIs. There seem to be some good foundations in place from Gibson & Sammy but I think it needs to go deeper. England & Australia really took a step back and looked really hard at what could be done at all levels to improve the bottom line, in the short, medium and long term. Both are reaping rewards. I think WI needs to do the same thing. They don't have the same financial resources but their people are a great resource. WICB and the individual boards need to work together for the good of WI cricket. It may not bear fruit for this team but don't let the next have to start making progress again.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 4:26 GMT

    I have to agree with all those criticising the balance of the WI team in this game. Having an all-rounder is definitely an advantage. I think that that is the one area where Australia and SA genuinely have it over England in Test cricket. If England could get a decent bat at #6 who could also bowl more then the part-time stuff that Bopara can send down then I think that they could really cement themselves as #1. In limited-overs cricket an all-rounder becomes even more important but you still need to get the balance right. WI seems to be saturated with all-rounders and way to light in specialists, especially specialist bowlers. Sure WI have lots of options but none of them really show a great deal of penetration. You have to have at least one name that springs straight to mind when you need a breakthrough. I'm guessing it would be Roach if he was fit, so that's a pity, but there are other options.

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    @Meety on (June 17 2012, 02:01 AM GMT), you shouldn't feel too bad. I'm one of the more vocal Bell supporters but even I have to admit that his ODI record is not that great. I think that the thing for most reasonable fans is that they know that he is a talented batsman and therefore should be successful in ODIs but he just hasn't lived up to his potential. He has scored a hundred before and then didn't kick on so he's not out of the woods yet. Also, he already has a decent record in England but it's overseas that his average is genuinely poor. If he can continue to succeed this summer and then do well in India then I will feel that he has put the doubts to bed. Until then, I'll keep hoping that he plays each innings the way I know that he can but has not always shown.

  • pommy80 on June 17, 2012, 4:17 GMT

    Ha ha too all those who said WI were going to whitewash England 3-0. England just proved again how good of a side they are. Great win!

  • jmcilhinney on June 17, 2012, 4:12 GMT

    @Bruisers on (June 17 2012, 02:20 AM GMT), you're making a very big assumption. The only cruising WI did was basically due to Dwayne Smith. Noone else offered a great deal of resistance so it really comes down to the fact that once Smith was out WI one solid foundation was gome and the whole thing fell over. You say that WI started losing wickets because they were behind the D/L par score but, in actual fact, they were behind the D/L par score until they started losing wickets. Besides that, do you really think that the batsmen on the pitch knew what the D/L par score was? Let's also not forget that WI won the toss and the forecast was for a high chance of rain. England batted second in the rain against India last summer and when they won many Indian fans said that England were lucky, now you're saying England are lucky for batting first. It seems that D/L is England's best player. If you play well enough you win and if you don't you lose, end of story.

  • TAJY on June 17, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    West Indies West Indies West Indies what in the world are we going to do with y'all. Every game you all collapse and collapse so spectacularly. 96 for 1 you were, then what? Oh my gosh, man. Every single time? Its humiliating!!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on June 17, 2012, 3:47 GMT

    What a beautiful innings by the sweetest timer of the cricket ball - Ian Bell. Jai Ho Ian Bell. JG what do you say now my friend? :-)

  • QingdaoXI on June 17, 2012, 3:46 GMT

    My team Gayle, Simmons(WK), Bravo jr, Smith, Samuels(C), Bravo Sr, Cooper, Polly, Russel,Rampaul, Narine for T-20 World cup. itshigh time west indies should remove sammy as a captain and replace it with Samuels. In odis and T-20 Simmons should keep Wickets.

  • Bruisers on June 17, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    @Ahmed Hussain - "WI need to be stripped of International Status" You seem to say that to every team these days. First you said it to India during the IPL, then to Pakistan after their poor showing and now West Indies.... Remember we have just 8 top quality teams and if all the teams are stripped off their status then WHO will play international cricket!!? Bangladesh and Zimbabwe? LOL.

  • on June 17, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    WI team has too many all rounders. we have to understand that most all rounders while batting will struggle against a front line bowler and most all rounders will while bowling will struggle against a front line batsman. The other top ranking cricket nations understand this concept and select their teams too suit. we have to start picking specialist batsmen and bowlers.

  • Bruisers on June 17, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    @Long-Leg - Windies were cruising at one stage. And then when there was a hint of rain, they got to know that they are behind the D/L par score and started taking unnecessary chances keeping in mind the game ''might not resume'' if the rain interrupts play. That led to the loss of a few wickets which propelled the D/L par score further. All that would have never happened if the drizzle hadn't taken place.

  • AMAZINGFAN on June 17, 2012, 2:11 GMT

    what happened to the new spin sensation narine?

  • Meety on June 17, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    Ah Bell! Didn't I say he'd do well? I'll slink off! LOL!

  • KathmanduNepalSandeshLamsal on June 17, 2012, 1:51 GMT

    MIDDLE ORDER AND BOWLERS DID't DO ANY THING......

    PLEASE PLAY RESPONSIBILLY

    ?????? u doing boys..

    POLARD, SAMULES, BRAVO (brothers), NARINE, SAMMY.....

    well played smith..

    KEEP MORALE ON YOUR SIDE................

  • Rally_Windies on June 17, 2012, 1:51 GMT

    I don't think Randy_Wilson watches WI cricket..

    who has the most runs in ODI cricket amog WI batsmen in the last year? Last 6 month? in the 2011 season ?

    Why it happens to be the person you want to drop from the team to give Gayle a spot.

    Yes that is Simmons... So Simmons is actually the 1st batsman picked ahead of everyone else including Gayle ...

    Simmons last 2 years in ODI is good enough(sats wise) to walk onto England's team ...

    And if this is NEWs to you, then what have you been doing in the last year?

  • on June 17, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    West Indies cricket is over..Thanks for all the good cricketing memories before.RIP... Soon Zimbabwe and Bangladesh will whitewash West Indies in all formats and won't be surprised if Ireland or some other Associates get Test status and demolish and demoralise them.ICC should remove WICB should isolate itself and West Indies from international cricket before any further humiliation takes place.They'll be better off playing along the ranks of Bermuda,USA or Kenya etc than to be whitewashed against good teams on a regular basis.The 2-2 draw against Aussies is just like Ireland beating England in the 2011 World Cup.

  • on June 17, 2012, 1:47 GMT

    Even though he ( IAN BELL) was out and then went on to score that TON that floored the WI , i always said that he is the "better bat" in the England line up .KP hit the ball harder , but IAN is "JUST CLASS" and very beautiful to watch .

  • delastbastion on June 17, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    Mr Gibson please look and realize that the biggest problem with a team of so many. Potential match winners everyone thinks the other ones gonna do it and in the end nobody does it. Guys gotta be selfish and adopt a mindset of not leaving anything to be done by anyone else. Guys who get in must finish the job. No way a team like that all batters should get a go

  • VivGilchrist on June 17, 2012, 0:36 GMT

    I've been saying it since WI toured Aus a few summers ago - they MUST play two proper opening bowlers. They're relying to heavily on all-rounders to fill the gaps. Rampaul bowled brilliantly early but had no-one down the other end to keep the pressure on. Best must come in next game. Well done too Smith, he is more than just a replacement player, he is a starter and always should be.

  • Nampally on June 16, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    I think the WI ODI Xi must include Tino Best after his brilliant innings of 96 in the Third test. He is the fastest WI bowler + ideal ODI hitter. Pollard is in the team as an all rounder. He did nothing in batting & did not bowl. Tino can even replace one of the Bravos. If Gayle & Best bat together for an hour, they will score 200 runs between them @ 15 runs/over. WI has a lot of wasted talent who are not playing. If they play their best team, England will find it hard to beat them.

  • yorkshirematt on June 16, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    @bigwonder. Believe it or not we don't actually enjoy playing cricket in a howling gale and driving rain. We're just, unfortunately, more used to it than most touring sides.

  • on June 16, 2012, 23:27 GMT

    Well done England and Bell. WI still have yet to win on tour after drawing against Australia at home in ODI. The irony is that gayle is out injured.

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:18 GMT

    @Bruisers on (June 16 2012, 20:26 PM GMT) - I think WI panicked as much as anything. Bumble was saying that WI were playing like they thought the game would be rained off , but when they came back on , they only adjusted the score by WI having 8 fewer deliveries to get the runs in.

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    @jackiethepen on (June 16 2012, 19:22 PM GMT) - Bell was magnificent today. I know I come over as a Bell hater , but I really like him as a person. I've just had so many bad memories of him failing in ODIs. If he continues this form I'll be very happy to be proven wrong.

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    @Rally_Windies on (June 16 2012, 18:56 PM GMT) Bravo went off injured and rules said he could not bat until 5 wkts had fallen and I guess he was still not great when 5 were down. It wouldn't have been a tactical thing although I'm surprised Gibson doesn't get the blame for the weather - he seems to get the blame for everything else.

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    @bigwonder on (June 16 2012, 18:36 PM GMT) They actually bowled WI out after losing the toss and bowling second and not having the early overcast conditions. Yes we were lucky , but I seem to remember your fans booing about bowling with a wet ball. What were England bowling with then?

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    @Ahmed Hussain on (June 16 2012, 17:59 PM GMT) Kind words for Eng but didn't WI recently draw a OD series vs world number 1s Australia?

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    @fieldy56 on (June 16 2012, 15:04 PM GMT) Come on man - while I think Eng had the platform to go above 300 , Bell scored at a SR of 100+ which is excellent.

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    @Adithya Ragu on (June 16 2012, 16:08 PM GMT) You say to drop Simmons and then you name him in your side?

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    @Sports4Youth on (June 16 2012, 16:25 PM GMT) He had a stress related foot injury AKA laying an egg

  • on June 16, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    Well once again the WI team demonstrated that they are all talk and no action. Big earings, big chain round they neck. dark sun glasses, hip hop stride and all they are is a bunch of loosers. I keep hearing about the lessons that they are learning but learning what. They have not made any corrections to the way they bat or field. The truth of the matter is that WI cricket has been on artificial life support for more than a decade, it's time to pull the plug.

  • Long-Leg on June 16, 2012, 23:06 GMT

    @bigwonder & @Bruiser: You cannot seriously believe that Duckworth Lewis had anything to do with this English win? Only 2 overs were lost to the weather and WI fell short by over 100 runs. I would remind you also that WI won the toss and put England in on an excellent batting surface. England do not control the weather as some seem to think, it just happens. Personally I am pleased that England are showing some improvement in the one day format. They have beaten a strong Pakistan side 4-0 away from home and have now made a great start against a strong WI side. I hope their improvement continues.

  • on June 16, 2012, 22:17 GMT

    Mr Mayfield this is the same team that play in the caribbean against Australia so what Superstar are you talking about. This is the team that played against Australia Sammy ,Powell , Charles, Bravo, Bravo, Samuels, Pollard Baugh, Russell,Narine and Roach. To day game against England Simmons , Ramdin, Smith, Rampaul REPLACE Powell , Roach,Baugh and Charles who is in the squad Powell out of form and Roach sick so before you guys look for total nonsense to talk about check your facts. I am sorry the only superstar in the team did not play today and you still pointing finger at him because you are so anti( Gayle) SUPERSTAR.

  • pom_don on June 16, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    Where is RandyOz he seems to have disappeared I wonder why?

  • Lmaotsetung on June 16, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    OH BOY! Heeeere we go again, a year later, different team, same ole excuses. The weather conspired against WI, star player was injured and he would have won it for WI for sure, umpire favored home team, Eng can only play in swinging seaming condition despite the fact that it was a good batting track, D/L method is crap....anything else I missed please feel free to add. You people never seem to amaze!

  • Midonoff on June 16, 2012, 21:16 GMT

    Okay, let me start by saying congratulation England, however, I still maintain this west indies side dangerous and they will bounce back, starting from Tuesday at the Oval. Things didn't fall into play today but they will come back hard and once they click into gear England will be facing a daunting total, didn't see nothing special from Bell or Trott today, Is Bell really is KP replacement, no comparison? a pity Smith couldn't bat for 10 more overs.

  • on June 16, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    west indies miss ramnaresh sarwan badly

  • Bruisers on June 16, 2012, 20:26 GMT

    The rain outwitted the Windies today as they were chasing the D/L par score all time. In the process, they kept losing wickets and the par score just kept going further and further. They should have batted sensibly instead of going for broke. Anyways let's hope for the return of GAYLE and a change in fortunes too.

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    For those talking about Roach and Chanderpaul, both went home after their respective injuries so you can forget about seeing either for the rest of this tour. Also, why is anyone asking about Gayle's absence when you can easily read about the fact that he was injured before the game? Just goes to show how many more people want to write something rather than read.

  • on June 16, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    Narine was the best bowler on show - seems like some people were watching another game. Dwayne Bravo or Samuels should have gone at three and once they decided that Darren was going to bat he should have batted higher. Best must replace Russell. Anyway Bell is not going to score a century every fame. And with or without Gayle the West Indies batting lineup will not failed every game.

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 20:14 GMT

    @Asif E Dwarika on (June 16 2012, 19:39 PM GMT), you seem to be implying that England were poor sports but with no indication of exactly what incident(s) you're referring to. Would you care to elaborate, because I didn't see any poor sportsmanship? Or am I reading your post all wrong?

  • on June 16, 2012, 19:47 GMT

    WI is all sluggers with mussel and TOO BAD CHANDERPAUL IS NOT IN THE 11 TO HOLD 1 END FOR THE SLUGGERS.

  • on June 16, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    Windies have a good team,just need to stragetise more. i am 100% behind them.

  • on June 16, 2012, 19:39 GMT

    where is the sportsmanship come on England

  • jackiethepen on June 16, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    CLEARLY out Sir Sobers? - but no mark on the bat on the enhanced Hot Spot! And no sound on the stump mic according to Atherton. No visible deviation and no finger from the umpire! If Sammy had been able to appeal, no Hot Spot would have supported the ump. so a Review would have failed. But when you are a West Indian supporter none of these facts make any difference, clearly. Bell was injured yesterday with a nasty wound needing 10 stitches and possible fracture of the jaw. The faint hearted would not have played. But still you will get those saying Bell needs to swagger etc to prove himself. For me a nice moment came when Samuels gave Bell a friendly pat when the two teams met to shake hands. A sporting gesture.

  • MartinC on June 16, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    @fieldy66 - wrong.

    280 odd was probably about a par score but England should have got 300. With our attack though 280 was a good score with the boundaries right back.

    I have to ask as well how on earth does Chris Gayle get a stress fracture of his foot or shin? He bowls off about 3 paces, fields at slip and hardly runs when he bats!

  • Randy_Wilson on June 16, 2012, 19:06 GMT

    Today It prove to me That alot of people who comment here Dont follow The West Indies Cricket At all. Gayle was to Play today But was replace by Dwayne Smith. Gayle had a problem with his Foot this Morning 30 min before the Game started. D Ramdin Came in number 3 because Daren Bravo was injured, till i have no idea why didnt Dywane Bravo didnt came in. West Indies BIGGEST downfall today Wasnt because Gayle didnt Play, but was Not playing a 2nd seamer. Lets Say Gayle Played. which mean Smith wouldnt of played an Simmon would of open with gayle. What happen to Smith may of happen to Gayle. having all the persure on him to score Run. It wouldn't make NO difference. A Russel and L Simmon should be replace next match. Gayle in for Simmon and Tino in for Russel. would imprve the batting and bowling.

  • Balb on June 16, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    Gayle alone could not have win this match even if he had played. Why Ramdin batted so early? Sammy should have batted there where a slugger was needed. Why was Tino Best not included in the team? WICB please listen to Geoff Boycott's comments and opinion on Narine. Narine is not ready yet. He was just lucky in the twenty20 since that is a slugging competition. Narine needs more exposure since he has only played in seven international matches. He will wear himself out and become frustrated when he is exposed to other international matches - the likes of SA and Australia. You are grooming him wrong. Same thing happened with Bishoo.

    WICB is having a problem selecting the right combination for tests and ODI's. These group of players needs to be sorted and I say again - TWO CAPTAINS

  • mar2000 on June 16, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    For years the West Indies have played against 13 players on the field of play . Ian Bell was clearly out .

  • Rally_Windies on June 16, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    Hmmm

    the centruion in the last game bats at 9 ?

    hmmm how interesting ...

    If this was football.... Gibson would be fired forthwith for a stupid decision that probably cost the game ...

    I always say, coaches can't win games (players have to do that).. but coaches do have the power to lose games ...

    Imagine if Bravo batted at number 4, and made 50, even if it was slow off 70 balls ...

    WI might have made 230 ? 240 ? instead ? with the sluggers batting around him?

    oh well, I guess Ottis Gibson knows more about cricket than me, and I must be a complete fool .... That is the only way I can explain why he is the WI coach ...(or maybe it is the people who hired him are the complete fools)

  • Stark62 on June 16, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    I was greatly anticipating the return of Gayle and was livid, when I didn't see his name in the line up!!

    Would love to see an opening pair of Gayle and Smith, after the way he played today.

  • on June 16, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    As i have mentioned before whether you have the strongest or weakest team on paper,and whether the opposition is weak or strong,you still have to execute properly on the field of play,working with your game plan.W.I seem to think that they can just turn-up,with a strong team on paper and win. They got the players with talent to beat eng but reading and asessing the game correctly at different stages is key.they can do it,as they have proven against Australia.They need to play with more vigour in the field and execute like they did against Australia.

  • Sadiqahmed on June 16, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Well done England. West Indies improved their team selection but are still not there. The inability of Gayle to play is unfortunate. Yet I don't understand why Darren Bravo is playing instead of Chanderpaul. Also with 4 all rounders playing ( samuels, pollard, dywane bravo and smith) why play Andre Russel instead of a specialist fast bowler like Roach? Chanderpaul is the best and most consistent batsman they have got and must be included in any game they play and not just test cricket. The batting line up was unwise. Why play Ramdin so high up? Lets see the next game with both Gayle and Chanderpaul in. The line up would be Gayle, Smith, Chanderpaul, Samuels, Pollard, Ramdin, Dywane Bravo, Sammy, Rampaul, Roach, and Narine.

    Sadiq

  • bigwonder on June 16, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    Once again, England are lions in their own den. They are again winning ODI's - thanks to D/L - in a similar fashion like they did against India. It is always interesting to watch England play outside of England - that's when real cricket happens. Also what happened to Gayle?

  • on June 16, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Gayle is injured and may out of the series. Russell is a bits and pieces player and at best, should play only T20. He should be replaced by Tino Best or Fidel Edwards. Pollard has to be much more consistent - his once in a while effort is no where near enough. Sarwan needs to be drafted in squad. If Simmons is going to play let him keep wicket also and drop Ramdin or play Ramdin and drop Simmons and let Ramdin open if Gayle does not recover in time for the second match. Heck if I had my way I'd use sammy also only in T20.

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    That was a bit of an anti-climax in the end. WI got off to a flyer thanks to Smith but they just fell away, as they have so often done in Tests. They were certainly unlucky with injuries and perhaps they were a bit deflated over Gayle not being able to play after so much build up, but they still didn't put up the fight that I'm sure many of their fans were expecting. I think that we'll almost certainly see see a different balance to their team in the next game and, for the sake of WI, Gayle and for cricket itself, I'm hoping that he is over his injury by then. I want England to win but I want them to be able to beat the best the opposition has to offer. I don't want them to win because they're playing a second string side. Still, I think that this was probably a stronger WI team than the one that pushed Australia to a 2-2 series draw recently. WI are more than capable of coming back strong but I think that it's clear that England are capable of handling them even then.

  • ramgoat on June 16, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    This west indies team cant bat 50 overs,same talk from Sammy all the time .Put all of them together Chanderpaul is better.

  • priceless1 on June 16, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    WI are just papers tigers .....im expectng a white wash from the England

  • Pritt32 on June 16, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    West Indies gifted the game to England. The self-destructive visitors were perfectly poised at 90 for 1 and failed to capitalise on a perfect start. Completely lost the plot slipping to 128 for 5 with pretty ordinary batting when situation demanded calmness. Rain interruption delayed the inevitable. West Indies lost quick wickets and suffered a crushing defeat. This highlights the England team is clinical and professional. The English bowling did trouble the fragile West Indies batting line up. West Indies must bring back Gayle to the squad, as it would lift the team. England won the game far too easily and the contest would be uneven if West Indies do not learn from their mistakes. The message never sinks into this under-performing team, as their batting is far too one dimensional, as it seems to be hitting the ball all the time rather than pacing the innings. It is no wonder former West Indies players are getting frustated with the team at present, with some strong comments.

  • Mayfield on June 16, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    All the talk of the superstars in the team and the strong batting lineup did not materialize. Again, we saw some poor shot selection. Smith batted well, but a poor shot cost him his wicket. Pollard should have left that ball alone. Again, we are hearing commentary about the lacklauster effort in the field, with senior players walking around with hands in their pockets. Commentary was also made about a change in attitude for the next match. Does this sound familiar? With a team packed with the supposed superstars, we were bowled out for 170. You can hype up these players all you want, but it shows time and time again, that they do not have what it takes to succeed. I really did not expect much from the team with the same old characters. Apparently, nothing much has changed. They continue to flatter to deceive.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 16, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Ian Bell-126. QED. For the rest a proper attack was always going to win the day as no bowler had to be hidden. Would that we did that more often, but it takes a bit of guts to do it. Wrong sort of gale in evidence after the much heralded return of the prodigal son failed to happen. As for the rest is Bumble's forecast for a month of sun real or is he just being the plaything of some malevolent spirit?

  • AKS286 on June 16, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    NOW the fans have only one EXCUSE for defeat ie GAYLE is not playing bcoz rest all are playing that fans were shouting since test matches.

  • whatawicket on June 16, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    perhaps people should understand england in england can be a force. WI with the so called hitters will be happier in the T20 game. similar to the indian forum writers last summer and what they were going to do. nice to see bell showing just what he can do. perhaps our old mates from downunder maybe feel more inclined to button it.

  • EnglishCricket on June 16, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Just as I have predicted, a comfortable win for England at the lovely Southampton Stadium. The West Indies side do not look at all serious judging by their body language and losing by more than a 100 runs instantly shows how weak they are in World Cricket today. This pitch was far more suited to Batting compared to Bowling and the West Indies poor shot selection cost them the game. I predict a most likely 3-0 ODI Series win if not 2-1 but in T20, the West Indies may actually have a high chance to win as they are very strong in that particular format. Anyway, congratulations England and lets achieve the Number 1 ranking in the ODI format and for the first time, hope we hold the number 1 ranking positions across all the formats and make history.

  • on June 16, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    I really don't know when WI team will stop disappointing their supporters. A strong line up (although Gayle wasn't there) and still can't produce. These are the players people were asking for in the tests? It's probably the WICB's fault, no It's probably Sammy's fault because he's the worst captain and circket player ever.... Nope thats not it, It's Coach Gibson's fault they played so poorly. I am sure that comments will be about who is not playing rather than the persons who were playing...again.

  • on June 16, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    Excellent performance by England congrats! Out of all the International Teams out their, England at this moment are the most serious and energetic. West Indies IMO need to be stripped of International Status as their record in all forms of game is getting worse and worse though the talent is there but don't know how to utilize it.

  • honorejr on June 16, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    top 5 highest run scorer in the ipl for the past 2 yrs..no problems..however, back on the west indies, one warm up match, 34 runs, 1 over..ruled out of play in the next game from stress fracture....all the big names r back, now what do we get???? 172 all out..need i say that the big guns have done nothing but prove hilliare and his board of rubbish right.. i bet u they r gonna score when the series is lost..who wants to bet against me

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    Re Ramdin - I think when he got out he should have put a note up saying "It was meaningless Viv"

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    Well done Ian Bell. From one of his fiercest OD critics , he played the sort of inns which a guy with his talent should be able to play but so seldom ever has done. He still has to do more of the same , but if he does , I'll be happy to see him in the OD set up permanently although I still have my reservations having Cook , Bell , Bopara and Bell playing in the top 4 of the same line up. Maybe they can rotate batsmen a bit more and start resting players when they are out of nick/jaded. Eng have had a bit of fortune re weather conditions but that happens sometimes and WI did win the toss although I'm sure if we go on to win there will be many on here who will cite it as the ONLY reason

  • JG2704 on June 16, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS on (June 16 2012, 16:32 PM GMT) How do you work out that Bell was clearly out? There was a noise which could have been anything but no evidence on hotspot and no visual evidence. The team was by and large what most people on here wanted with Narine , Russell , Pollard, Bravo snr , Smith all playing. T Best was seen as a joke inclusion when he came back into the test side and now all of a sudden after a once in a lifetime inns and a couple of wickets he's the main man. A very well balanced post though I must say ...

  • Livinitupnowww on June 16, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    Again WI hyped up by media & reporters, and again they show their vulnerability. Most people tuned in to see Gayle & not the sensationalism of Pollard & Smith cause they're both one ball batsmen. They bat for show, not for team or country. The only way WI had a chance of not losing this series was if the games were washed out. Not bashing, but saying it as it is.

  • on June 16, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Sirsobers realistically there is not many genuine pace bowlers these days. Ian Bell is a quality bat and yes i agree that the windies attack is poor, but how many good attacks are there?

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 16, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    What an innings by Bell. I cannot stop laughing at some of the hot-air babbling comments left on these boards about Bell before his amazing hundred today. And what was that about his strike rate? And England even had Anderson bowling at 90 mph! After the best test team in the world brought out so much bitterness from fans of teams they flattened in recent time, can all those comedians (dare I mention names) who got it so wrong yet again please feel free to fill the spaces above with comments of appropriate humility.

  • 5wombats on June 16, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    5/127. Rain. As we have seen so many times in the last few years when England have their full strength bowling attack on the park - once they work out the pitch and get control they can choke off most teams. Any format. Bresnan very good today. This is how we won the ODI series in South Africa a couple of years ago and the recent ODI series in UAE. We just need our first choice bowlers and we are a match for anyone. Great to see Bell doing the business. Maybe all the naysayers will be quiet for a while now....

  • BRUTALANALYST on June 16, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    Ian Bell was clearly out in the early 20's and he knew it ! he got very lucky and made the most of it v this mediocre attack, Samuels the pick of the bowlers says it all.

    You might be able to get away with a side like this in T20 but 50 overs without 1 strike bowler in England ? you deserve to lose.Why would you leave Tino out after the impact he showed in last test match he is still RAPID 90MPH when England will have Morgan/Bairstow/ Bell/ Bopara in top order who have all struggled v extreme pace.

    A. Russell is not yet good enough to open/play ODI cricket especially when you already have Bravo Smith an Sammy in the side.

    W.I on course for another loss - Yeah they got unlucky with the rain now it's zipping of the pitch and the umpires should of took them off b4 Bravo n Pollards wkts but what was the plan putting Ramdin at 3 ? who struggled to get it off the square increasing the pressure on Smith who was going well and then was ultimately out on 50 trying to keep momentum.

  • Sports4Youth on June 16, 2012, 16:25 GMT

    Can someone please tell me, why Cris Gayle in not in the team for this 1st ODI ?

  • honorejr on June 16, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    no gayle..??? like seriously???? after all this hype!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on June 16, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    Names on a yellow pad, however 'big', don't ensure victory on the field. You just don't list players on paper and say with these men in the team, we will win. Doesn't work like that. We have becomed enamored with superstars to the point where reasoning/common sense play second fiddle. Like teams with lesser talent, ones containing big names must still begin with a well-conceived game plan, players must buy into it, then go out and execute, irrespective of conditions etc. Talent/ability married to smart cricket = success. It's that simple. So-called luck is rarely a factor as many think. You make your own luck as it were. With the huge amount of talent on our ODI team and if we play smart cricket against England or any other team for that matter, we should win.

  • on June 16, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Why the Windies tampering with thier batting line-up? Ramdin at three? This is confusion and will lead to their downfall.

  • on June 16, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    Please Drop Simmons and Ramdhin they Simply wasting the balls and preventing their partners from strike by simply took a single in the last ball and defending the first couple of balls in next over and take a single in 3rd ball it creates more pressure to batsmen at other end..... WI have lot of good players but these guys are costing the match..... My Squad for next match. C.Gayle,D.Smith,M. Samuels,Dwayne Bravo K.Pollard,A.Russel,D.Sammy,L.Simmons(wk) R.Rampaul,S.Naraine,F.Edwards

  • honorejr on June 16, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    no gayle..??? like seriously???? after all this hype!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Coraline_Jones on June 16, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    @ soumyas : well said dude ... Gayle is the sole reason why i watch cric nw a days ... me too stopped streaming the match once i came to know abt that ... aftr The gr8 Lara's retirement ... He is the one who some what revived my interest in cric ... me too a fan of RCB.

  • fieldy56 on June 16, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    As one of those who was far from enamoured by England's selection, I am writing this early in the West Indies Innings rather than in hindsight! Despite a reasonable score of 288 England still did not impress me. It looks an absolute road to bat on and Bell could arguably have been given out caught behind early on. Saying that he batted well. However, my original comments following selection related to the sport as an entertainment and the lack of entertainers selected by England. The last 16 overs produced 105 runs. What would Stokes, Buttler, Taylor, Wright et al have produced in that time? I think that 288 was below par...I am about to be proved right or wrong!!

  • on June 16, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    I guess the WI Cricket Board didn't offer Chris Gayle enough money to play for his country, after all...

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    Both teams might be a bit ambivalent about England's score. For a while it looked like they might score significantly more and then for a while it looked like they might make a bit less. Noone but Bell really managed to get going until Kieswetter and Broad in those last few overs. Several starts but everyone fell before they were able to accelerate.

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 13:57 GMT

    I'm a supporter of Ian Bell so I'm very pleased and not surprised to see his performance here. That said, I'm not going to pretend that his ODI record is as good as it should be based on his talent. His record in England is fairly good already too. I'm hoping, for his and England's sake, that this is just the start of his genuine coming as an ODI batsmen. This is the third-best bowling attack England will face in ODIs this summer though, and they will then have to play ODIs in India soon after. Greater tests are to come.

  • jmcilhinney on June 16, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    @Jeffrey D Cox on (June 16 2012, 10:13 AM GMT), there really was a lot of hype surrounding Gayle's return. There's no doubt that Gayle is one of the best limited-overs batsmen in the world but the talk from many fans was that his mere presence would guarantee a win for WI. WI fans are starved for success so I can understand it to a degree but its not like WI haven't lost games with Gayle playing before. One example of such a loss would be in the last WC against an England team without KP, so those writing off England here, especially in their home conditions, are dealing mainly in hype.

  • A_Vacant_Slip on June 16, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    @Amarinder Singh - yeah whatever. Make sure you have eye open - this here is 50over game, not 20/20. 288 is about 90 too many for West Indies. Who said Bell is "Tortoise...."?

  • on June 16, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    I think England should learn to live without Kevin Pietersen..Although I still feel the selector's are wrong and they should allow Kevin to play T20s.. But Nobody is idespensable..For me England's best cricketer in recent times was Marcus Trescothink but they have learnt to live without him.. Another point, How come selectors kept Bell out of the squad and brought him in only when Kevin retired..I think English Selectors and Board are bunch of fools..With the kind of talent they have in the counties they are always messing it up with their decisions and are not good enough to bring the best 11 on the field..England will never be able to win any linited over competition from this series onward I can guarantee..See the difference Bell has made due to his forced return in the squad..There is another player waiting for his turn...and that is Owais Shah for me the best player of spin in England...

  • on June 16, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    I think WI still need to fine tune their squad in limited over games.. 1. They should have one fast bowler in the squad who should share the new ball with Rampaul..Edwards/Roach/Best/Gabriel/Johnson/Taylor..They have plenty of talent in the fast bowling and they just can't afford not to play and win games with their fast bowling..Fast bowling is their strength and they should play to their strength. 2.Sammy/Bravo/Russel All are pretty much similar bowler with Bravo the best among them and they don't need all three of them playing in the same match..They should rotate them on the basis of form. 3. Top Order Pool - Gayle/Simmons/Barath/Charles Middle Order Pool - Darren Bravo/Samuels/Sarwan/D.Smith/Pollard They should work hard on their batting because that should be their main role in times to come. 4. Slow Bowling Pool - Samuels/Gayle/Naraine/Permaul/Benn/Bishoo 5. Wicket Keeper - Ramdin I believe in specialist but he should focus on his batting and less on answering the critics

  • YorkshirePudding on June 16, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    @Jeffrey D Cox, there was a lot of hype about the return of Gayle to the fold, just as there was hype from some areas about Narine, though hes not really living upto his billing so far.....@Amarinder Singh, care to revise that statement, england Rattling a long at 5 an over, and we dont even have our best ODI batsman playing, due to retirement.

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    boy do windies look threatningor wht?????/ may be there good days r just roung the corner........ and for me they r the front runners for this years 20 20 world cup

  • soumyas on June 16, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    i started watching this match by streaming online, later came to know by commentator that Gayle is not playing. i lost interest in the match. stopped streaming as i have limited download. then i really wondered how a one man can make the difference in this game of cricket. just the name "gayle" is enough to bring thousands of his fans from all over the world. by the way i'm Indian and RCB supporter.

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    @jeffrey D Cox:: well said man........... Windies team look threatening and I should say they are really there in contention for 2015 World Cup. Time to conquer the world.........maan

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    "After all the hype surrounding his return to the international stage Chris Gayle was ruled out of the opening one-day international against England with a stress-related foot injury." At first I thought Gayle was dropped! And it really is not "hype" when it comes to the batting of Chris Gayle! Come on: Let's have fair play! It would not surprise me if this were not published! Not at all! Here's a better opening: "Word cricket fans will miss Gayle's explosive fire power due to a stress-related food injury!"

  • Min2_cric on June 16, 2012, 10:02 GMT

    eng gothcha win...mind it...theres always jimmy anderson....

  • on June 16, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    Windies line up still strong as hell. W.I. FTW.

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  • on June 16, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    Windies line up still strong as hell. W.I. FTW.

  • Min2_cric on June 16, 2012, 10:02 GMT

    eng gothcha win...mind it...theres always jimmy anderson....

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    "After all the hype surrounding his return to the international stage Chris Gayle was ruled out of the opening one-day international against England with a stress-related foot injury." At first I thought Gayle was dropped! And it really is not "hype" when it comes to the batting of Chris Gayle! Come on: Let's have fair play! It would not surprise me if this were not published! Not at all! Here's a better opening: "Word cricket fans will miss Gayle's explosive fire power due to a stress-related food injury!"

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    @jeffrey D Cox:: well said man........... Windies team look threatening and I should say they are really there in contention for 2015 World Cup. Time to conquer the world.........maan

  • soumyas on June 16, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    i started watching this match by streaming online, later came to know by commentator that Gayle is not playing. i lost interest in the match. stopped streaming as i have limited download. then i really wondered how a one man can make the difference in this game of cricket. just the name "gayle" is enough to bring thousands of his fans from all over the world. by the way i'm Indian and RCB supporter.

  • on June 16, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    boy do windies look threatningor wht?????/ may be there good days r just roung the corner........ and for me they r the front runners for this years 20 20 world cup

  • YorkshirePudding on June 16, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    @Jeffrey D Cox, there was a lot of hype about the return of Gayle to the fold, just as there was hype from some areas about Narine, though hes not really living upto his billing so far.....@Amarinder Singh, care to revise that statement, england Rattling a long at 5 an over, and we dont even have our best ODI batsman playing, due to retirement.

  • on June 16, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    I think WI still need to fine tune their squad in limited over games.. 1. They should have one fast bowler in the squad who should share the new ball with Rampaul..Edwards/Roach/Best/Gabriel/Johnson/Taylor..They have plenty of talent in the fast bowling and they just can't afford not to play and win games with their fast bowling..Fast bowling is their strength and they should play to their strength. 2.Sammy/Bravo/Russel All are pretty much similar bowler with Bravo the best among them and they don't need all three of them playing in the same match..They should rotate them on the basis of form. 3. Top Order Pool - Gayle/Simmons/Barath/Charles Middle Order Pool - Darren Bravo/Samuels/Sarwan/D.Smith/Pollard They should work hard on their batting because that should be their main role in times to come. 4. Slow Bowling Pool - Samuels/Gayle/Naraine/Permaul/Benn/Bishoo 5. Wicket Keeper - Ramdin I believe in specialist but he should focus on his batting and less on answering the critics

  • on June 16, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    I think England should learn to live without Kevin Pietersen..Although I still feel the selector's are wrong and they should allow Kevin to play T20s.. But Nobody is idespensable..For me England's best cricketer in recent times was Marcus Trescothink but they have learnt to live without him.. Another point, How come selectors kept Bell out of the squad and brought him in only when Kevin retired..I think English Selectors and Board are bunch of fools..With the kind of talent they have in the counties they are always messing it up with their decisions and are not good enough to bring the best 11 on the field..England will never be able to win any linited over competition from this series onward I can guarantee..See the difference Bell has made due to his forced return in the squad..There is another player waiting for his turn...and that is Owais Shah for me the best player of spin in England...

  • A_Vacant_Slip on June 16, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    @Amarinder Singh - yeah whatever. Make sure you have eye open - this here is 50over game, not 20/20. 288 is about 90 too many for West Indies. Who said Bell is "Tortoise...."?