England news November 27, 2013

Bresnan makes half-century on return

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England Performance Programme 376 for 9 (Robson 102, Moeen 83, Bresnan 57*, Buttler 53) v Queensland 2nd XI
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Tim Bresnan struck an unbeaten half-century for the England Performance Programme on the first day of their match against Queensland 2nd XI in Brisbane. Bresnan could be in line to return for the second Ashes Test in Adelaide if he can prove his fitness after a stress fracture in his back.

England will hope Bresnan has further success with the ball, after he scored 57 not out batting at No. 9. The three-day match is his first competitive appearance since the fourth Test against Australia in August, after which Bresnan missed the rest of the season through injury.

The Test squad have headed to Alice Springs for their match against a CA Chairman's XI on Friday and Saturday but Bresnan remained in Brisbane with the EPP for the game at Allan Border Field.

The EPP posted 376 for 9, after being put in to bat, with Middlesex batsman Sam Robson scoring a century in the country of his birth. Robson, whose future had been subject of much conjecture until he committed himself to a prospective England career by joining this tour, retired out for 102.

Moeen Ali made 83 in the middle order and wicketkeeper Jos Buttler 54. The EPP have fielded 13 players in the match but only batted with 11.

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  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 28, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    I hardly think he's going to turn their fortunes around.

  • RednWhiteArmy on November 28, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    Bressylad loves the aussie conditions

  • dunger.bob on November 28, 2013, 2:23 GMT

    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm just happy to have some cricket to talk about for a change. This last week has been a bit rough on every one.

    At last some good news for England. Bresnans a damn good cricketer and has been dangerous against us in the past. .. To be honest I thought Tremlett did a pretty good job of keeping things quiet and he got some wickets too. Sure, he's not what you'd call fast, but he held his lines and lengths pretty well under some heavy pressure from Warner and Clarke. All in all, I thought he was a long way from the train wreck many England supporters said he was.

    Anyway,it can't hurt your cause to have a player like Big Bres. knocking on the door. If he bowls a decent number of overs and doesn't pull up lame I guess the selectors would be very interested in him. Good luck to him but only until he makes it back into the side. If he gets there, no more good luck wishes from me.

  • Meety on November 27, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    IMO - (although things can certainly change in Adelaide) - Bresnan is esential for making England competitive in the field between the 20th & 80th over. They really looked toothless when Swann isn't at the top of his game.

  • BlueyCollar on November 27, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    England's biggest selection issue in this series is how to draft in an English curator. They were by far the individuals who had the most influence on the results in the northern summer.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on November 27, 2013, 19:53 GMT

    @158notout (post on November 27, 2013, 14:35 GMT): As YorkshirePudding has already said, and as this article in fact relays, it's all about Bresnan proving his fitness and getting back into contention for the 3rd seamer's slot only. Personally I don't rate his batting much anyway and wouldn't consider playing him unless he's 100% fit and bowling well - be that a good containing role or sneaking a few surprise wickets as before. The 'batting worries' is another different chapter, and covered/discussed in other articles.

  • on November 27, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    @ken

    County crickets only as good as grade cricket? Doesn't seem to be too bad what with the 2 thrashings in the last 2 ashes campaign and Chris Rogers getting an opening place on the back of runs in it. On the matter in hand,it would be foolhardy to play bres.a few runs is not enough to suggest he can bowl 4 or 5 spells a day. Root at 3 for the 2nd test and stokes to bat at 7 is the way I'd go.but selectors will go for balance I would think as the safe option.

  • on November 27, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    What people don't understand about robson is that he wasn't good enough to play for NSW and still isn't. There is no way I'd play him over Nic Maddinson, Ryan Carters, Kurtis Patterson, Ben Rohrer etc. He may have a good county average but the standard is only about good Sydney grade level.

  • CodandChips on November 27, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    I don't see why Bresnan would play. Because he can bat? He would just be similar to Tremlett but with a bit more pace and a lot less height. If any bowler from that team should play, I would want Jordan. Jordan has performed over the county season, played well in his ODI, and has pace.

    I hope Moeen gets parachuted into the test team. Good player to bat number 3, and at 26 would be a long-term investment. His off spin would be useful and remove any suicidal ideas of playing two spinners this series.

    If Robson is playing, does that mean he has committed to England? Personally I don't feel he's ready for international cricket, and I see this as a poaching (unlike any other England player of recent years bar Rankin). But good to see him in the runs nonetheless.

    Why is Briggs there? He was outbolwed on many occasions this year by Liam Dawson. I know Kerrigan withdrew, but surely we must have someone else like Rayner or Cosker? Our spin cupboard is very bare. Brad Taylor in 10 years?

  • Nutcutlet on November 27, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    If he's fit, Bres plays. Tremlett was only ever keeping the seat warm for him & being the great team guy that he is, CT would fully understand & welcome TB's return to the ranks, even though his performance stood up better than any other bowler at Brisbane, except Stuart Broad's.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 28, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    I hardly think he's going to turn their fortunes around.

  • RednWhiteArmy on November 28, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    Bressylad loves the aussie conditions

  • dunger.bob on November 28, 2013, 2:23 GMT

    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm just happy to have some cricket to talk about for a change. This last week has been a bit rough on every one.

    At last some good news for England. Bresnans a damn good cricketer and has been dangerous against us in the past. .. To be honest I thought Tremlett did a pretty good job of keeping things quiet and he got some wickets too. Sure, he's not what you'd call fast, but he held his lines and lengths pretty well under some heavy pressure from Warner and Clarke. All in all, I thought he was a long way from the train wreck many England supporters said he was.

    Anyway,it can't hurt your cause to have a player like Big Bres. knocking on the door. If he bowls a decent number of overs and doesn't pull up lame I guess the selectors would be very interested in him. Good luck to him but only until he makes it back into the side. If he gets there, no more good luck wishes from me.

  • Meety on November 27, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    IMO - (although things can certainly change in Adelaide) - Bresnan is esential for making England competitive in the field between the 20th & 80th over. They really looked toothless when Swann isn't at the top of his game.

  • BlueyCollar on November 27, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    England's biggest selection issue in this series is how to draft in an English curator. They were by far the individuals who had the most influence on the results in the northern summer.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on November 27, 2013, 19:53 GMT

    @158notout (post on November 27, 2013, 14:35 GMT): As YorkshirePudding has already said, and as this article in fact relays, it's all about Bresnan proving his fitness and getting back into contention for the 3rd seamer's slot only. Personally I don't rate his batting much anyway and wouldn't consider playing him unless he's 100% fit and bowling well - be that a good containing role or sneaking a few surprise wickets as before. The 'batting worries' is another different chapter, and covered/discussed in other articles.

  • on November 27, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    @ken

    County crickets only as good as grade cricket? Doesn't seem to be too bad what with the 2 thrashings in the last 2 ashes campaign and Chris Rogers getting an opening place on the back of runs in it. On the matter in hand,it would be foolhardy to play bres.a few runs is not enough to suggest he can bowl 4 or 5 spells a day. Root at 3 for the 2nd test and stokes to bat at 7 is the way I'd go.but selectors will go for balance I would think as the safe option.

  • on November 27, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    What people don't understand about robson is that he wasn't good enough to play for NSW and still isn't. There is no way I'd play him over Nic Maddinson, Ryan Carters, Kurtis Patterson, Ben Rohrer etc. He may have a good county average but the standard is only about good Sydney grade level.

  • CodandChips on November 27, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    I don't see why Bresnan would play. Because he can bat? He would just be similar to Tremlett but with a bit more pace and a lot less height. If any bowler from that team should play, I would want Jordan. Jordan has performed over the county season, played well in his ODI, and has pace.

    I hope Moeen gets parachuted into the test team. Good player to bat number 3, and at 26 would be a long-term investment. His off spin would be useful and remove any suicidal ideas of playing two spinners this series.

    If Robson is playing, does that mean he has committed to England? Personally I don't feel he's ready for international cricket, and I see this as a poaching (unlike any other England player of recent years bar Rankin). But good to see him in the runs nonetheless.

    Why is Briggs there? He was outbolwed on many occasions this year by Liam Dawson. I know Kerrigan withdrew, but surely we must have someone else like Rayner or Cosker? Our spin cupboard is very bare. Brad Taylor in 10 years?

  • Nutcutlet on November 27, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    If he's fit, Bres plays. Tremlett was only ever keeping the seat warm for him & being the great team guy that he is, CT would fully understand & welcome TB's return to the ranks, even though his performance stood up better than any other bowler at Brisbane, except Stuart Broad's.

  • Manxmuppet on November 27, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    Well said osullivj! I was thinking that I was imagining his 1300 runs last year and hand off spin. I can't believe his name has not been mentioned before now. Perfect replacement for Trott and has proved he's still in good nick with an 83 in this game.

  • WelshWizard87 on November 27, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    So 2 top order batters score runs, but the bowler scoring runs gets the headlines? Given that Trott has gone home, I'd look to draft Robson in. Leave Root at 6 (remember what moving Graham Hick around the order did?) and let him grow. Root can move up the order the more established he becomes at Test Level, and Robson can bat at 3 (as an opener by trade).

  • on November 27, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    Finn has 90 wickets in 23 matches, Tremlett 53 in 12, Bresnan 67 in 21 along with some invaluable runs. Its a very difficult choice to make. With Trott out of the team England no longer has a part-time medium pacer to chip in with a few overs. However the most important statistic is wins, and Bresnan personal win/loss record says he should be back in the team as soon as he's fully fit. Until that's confirmed its far too great a risk when you're already a match down and the batters can't stitch partnerships together.

  • Biggus on November 27, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    Bringing him back for Adelaide would likely be a bit silly. Better to play the extra spinner and let Bresnan recover fully. If recent Shield matches on the new drop in system are anything to go by there won't be any major collapses, Australia's recent record and England's potentially problematic frame of mind notwithstanding. Mind you, I suspect the groundsman will have noted the early characteristics and will be loath to prepare anything quite so dead as has ensued thus far, so we should really hold fire till we see how it plays on the day. Not even we Aussies are too sure how it will pan out over five days.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 27, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    @158notout, I think there has awalys been a question over the 3rd bowler, as Finn, Rankin and tremlett have not really stated a case, Bresnan would strengthen the lower order compared to the three I mentioned.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 27, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Good to see him back playing. I am not sure playing him on this tour is a good idea, especially if he starts in Adelaide which might mean many days in the field.

  • 158notout on November 27, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Hello, have we gone in a time warp? England answering questions about their batting by replacing bowlers again. Bit retro 90's isn't it? The bowlers did OK at the Gabba, its the batting that let us down. Again. Still, this idea of 13 players might work, I wonder if the Aussies will let us do that for the second test. :-)

  • on November 27, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    Oh, get him in then. He's in top form

  • osullivj on November 27, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    Call up Moeen to replace Trott!

  • CricketingStargazer on November 27, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    I would love to see Tim Bresnan back for the 2nd Test, but it would be a huge risk. He needs to bowl a lot of overs in this game and look really sharp and, even then, success against a State 2nd XI does not equate to success in a Test against Australia.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 27, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Would it be fair on his body if he did go into the 2nd Test,or England? That is the crunch matter. I hope he comes through okay-he would be good in Adelaide I think, if fit. Tremlett however did not disappoint. Efficient and tidy I would term his performance. One is not going to get spraying the ball around from him.

  • on November 27, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    Great to see Bres get some runs if he bowls well he should go straight into the team for the second Test.

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  • on November 27, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    Great to see Bres get some runs if he bowls well he should go straight into the team for the second Test.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 27, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Would it be fair on his body if he did go into the 2nd Test,or England? That is the crunch matter. I hope he comes through okay-he would be good in Adelaide I think, if fit. Tremlett however did not disappoint. Efficient and tidy I would term his performance. One is not going to get spraying the ball around from him.

  • CricketingStargazer on November 27, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    I would love to see Tim Bresnan back for the 2nd Test, but it would be a huge risk. He needs to bowl a lot of overs in this game and look really sharp and, even then, success against a State 2nd XI does not equate to success in a Test against Australia.

  • osullivj on November 27, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    Call up Moeen to replace Trott!

  • on November 27, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    Oh, get him in then. He's in top form

  • 158notout on November 27, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Hello, have we gone in a time warp? England answering questions about their batting by replacing bowlers again. Bit retro 90's isn't it? The bowlers did OK at the Gabba, its the batting that let us down. Again. Still, this idea of 13 players might work, I wonder if the Aussies will let us do that for the second test. :-)

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 27, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Good to see him back playing. I am not sure playing him on this tour is a good idea, especially if he starts in Adelaide which might mean many days in the field.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 27, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    @158notout, I think there has awalys been a question over the 3rd bowler, as Finn, Rankin and tremlett have not really stated a case, Bresnan would strengthen the lower order compared to the three I mentioned.

  • Biggus on November 27, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    Bringing him back for Adelaide would likely be a bit silly. Better to play the extra spinner and let Bresnan recover fully. If recent Shield matches on the new drop in system are anything to go by there won't be any major collapses, Australia's recent record and England's potentially problematic frame of mind notwithstanding. Mind you, I suspect the groundsman will have noted the early characteristics and will be loath to prepare anything quite so dead as has ensued thus far, so we should really hold fire till we see how it plays on the day. Not even we Aussies are too sure how it will pan out over five days.

  • on November 27, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    Finn has 90 wickets in 23 matches, Tremlett 53 in 12, Bresnan 67 in 21 along with some invaluable runs. Its a very difficult choice to make. With Trott out of the team England no longer has a part-time medium pacer to chip in with a few overs. However the most important statistic is wins, and Bresnan personal win/loss record says he should be back in the team as soon as he's fully fit. Until that's confirmed its far too great a risk when you're already a match down and the batters can't stitch partnerships together.