Australia's troubled tour March 11, 2013

'It's not just about one incident' - Clarke

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Michael Clarke has stressed that the dramatic axing of four players including the vice-captain Shane Watson for the third Test in Mohali was due to a continued failure of some players to meet the standards set by the team. Watson flew home after being told he and three other players would not be considered for the match and is considering his Test future, although his departure was also largely spurred by the fact that his wife Lee Furlong is due to give birth soon.

Watson, James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson and Usman Khawaja failed to comply with an order from the coach Mickey Arthur to provide feedback on where they and the team could improve after the embarrassing loss in Hyderabad. But Clarke said the decision, made by Arthur, Clarke and the team manager Gavin Dovey, was an example to players that no longer would they get away with cutting corners.

"No doubt it's been a tough day," Clarke said late on Monday. "I want the public and the media to understand, don't get me wrong, it's not just about one incident. Firstly on this tour our performances have been unacceptable and there has been some stuff off the field [that has been unacceptable] for the standards an Australian cricket team needs to present itself to achieve what we are trying to achieve ... I know it is a tough day, a really tough day and it's a tough decision, but at the end of the day if people are not hitting those standards there are going to be consequences.

"Our head coach gave us two days off after the second Test, it was about freshening yourself up, get your rehab [done], your recovery, do what you have to do, get everything right for the next two Test matches, because the next two Test matches are as big as you might have in your career and you have an opportunity to turn this series around.

"We were asked to do one thing from the head coach. It was giving information back to the head coach about not only improving your game - what you've learnt from the first two Test matches - but also how can you help this team turn things around and have success.

"It was a very simple task. Yes, it took a lot of thinking because you had to look at your game and where you thought you could improve, what you had learnt and what you could do to help this team level this series. In my opinion, for the four players to not do it, not only does it let the team down, it also shows a lack of respect for the head coach and in the Australian cricket team that is unacceptable."

While Clarke did not elaborate on what other standards had not been met, Arthur earlier in the day said that some players had failed to fill in the daily wellness forms required to allow the sports science and medical staff to monitor their health. Clarke said an accumulation of minor infractions - regardless of the players involved - had led to a decision that an example had to be made.

"There have been a number of issues on this tour where I don't think we have been hitting our standards," Clarke said. "We have not done what is required for this Australian cricket team to have the success we want it to have. It's no coincidence we have lost the first two Test matches quite convincingly so we have to turn that around, we have to lift our standards.

"We can't accept mediocrity here. This is the Australian cricket team. Maybe I am biased [but] there is a big difference between this team and other cricket teams. If you play for Australia there is a lot that comes with that and standards, discipline, culture that is all a big part of what we are talking about here."

Pattinson, Khawaja and Johnson will be available for the Delhi Test but given Watson's comments about considering his future he appears unlikely to rejoin the tour. No decision has been made on who will stand in as vice-captain in his absence.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on March 12, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    It's a tough position for Michael Clarke for sure. Not only has he been in career best form but also is, in my opinion, the best tactical captain in the game at the moment. With all that, he is currently surrounded by a team that lacks experience, performance and now, commitment. Losses such as those of Pattinson will have an impact on the side no doubt, but Clarke has to take the right road and assert authority when rules are not followed. The fact is, Australia need to work that much harder due to conditions being foreign to them, and having a team that is inexperienced and lacking in the ability of more recent Australian sides. The way to still extract the best out of that is by attitude and preparation. If any players can't bring that level of commitment, they simply can't be part of the winning equation. Hats off for a brave call by the Aust team management. And to PPD123's point, India should still beware and not let this incident make them overconfident.

  • KPWij on March 12, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    This is another nail in the coffin for sport being fun and about having a good time for the players as well as spectators. I agree competitive sportsmen are paid exorbitant amounts of money to play a game and accordingly standards and discipline must be maintained (disastrous performances should also be critically analysed). However by suspending players over what Clarke described as "minor disciplinary incidents" does not only hurt his team, but the sport in general. The viewing public want to see the best Australian team in terms of cricketing skill, not a team that can detail reflective accounts on how they can improve themselves. Punish them financially and keep it in house and don't punish the entertainment of the game... We want to see Johnson, Khawaja, Pattinson and Watson play... not the b-team...

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    I think discipline is a big part of cricket. Some players are not being picked to play the test matches and i think Khawaja has not played so far and he is not showing a good attitude to persuade Clarke to pick him. The whole squad is talented in their own way but you must show your determination and resilience that you want to play for Australia. Even if you are already playing, the coach can drop you for the next map so you should not take it lightly that you are already in the team and you think no-one else in the squad is good enough to replace you. This type of lack in discipline is dis-respecting our game. I admit that Khawaja has not played a test so far however i am sure he has been watching the matches so he can contribute by saying how other team members can improve in their technique or at least spot the flaw in the team. I support this decision by Clarke and Arthur because this will encourage future players to not repeat this type of lack in discipline.

  • landl47 on March 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    There are a lot of posters who either haven't read or haven't understood Clarke's statement. He made it clear that this was not an isolated incident but part of a bigger picture.

    Many countries have had problems with players over team issues. England recently had the KP affair, NZ have Jesse Ryder, Pakistan and SA have had players banned for betting activities and so on. Australia itself has had previous issues- those who say this wouldn't have happened under Ponting should think back to 2009 when Andrew Symonds was disciplined for turning up late and hung-over.

    Standards must be set and if players don't meet them consequences must follow, otherwise what's the point of setting standads in the first place? Arthur and Clarke must and will be judged on their results. If they succeed, then they have done it right. If not, someone else will be appointed- though who could possibly replace Clarke at the moment is a difficult question.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:43 GMT

    Cricket - especially Test cricket - is about so much more than runs and wickets. If it was just about the stats you could just compare the averages of two opposing sides and count up to see who would win. In the modern era it's about preparation, commitment, mental fortitude, desire, single-mindedness, teamwork, and all the other factors that individually seem trivial but taken together determine the difference between bad, good and great.

    So while former Aussie players are all expressing their outrage they're totally missing the point. The coach and the captain set the rules and if you simply can't be bothered to follow them then you don't play. It's that simple.

    I'm English but I'm totally behind what Michael Clarke and Mickey Arthur are doing. You just can't have people who either aren't pulling their weight or think the rules don't apply to them. Clarke is right to say it's not about the homework: it's about 'do you want to play for Australia?'

  • PPD123 on March 11, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    I think this can be debated both ways - When you argue it from the players side, it looks like a very harsh decision. Ask some former players (Someone like Ganguly may not have made his debut, if he was born in Aus) & they will feel it very harsh to axe players from the squad for this sort of "indiscipline". Cant see this working for the subcontinental teams. From a team mgmt perspective, it is about getting everyone in line with expectation. Contrary to what people may believe,this incident could either make or break this team. This could galvanize the remaining players to work their socks off & get a positive result or the players could just go their ways and fall apart. Mohali will be a test of character for this group.It will be interesting to see how this team goes. Finally a word of caution for team India - BEWARE. History is filled with instances where players/teams have performed incredible feats when pushed to the brink. Ind should continue to prepare well & stay focussed.

  • on March 13, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    No news about the Indian Team and their preparations....are they even gonna play this test match or they are all on a vacation?? Strange!!!

  • ABP235 on March 12, 2013, 17:33 GMT

    Attitude and Discipline are more important, and come much ahead of Performance. With the words Watto using, I am plainly surprised that this guy has been the product of Australian sports upbringing. Aussies are always tough when it comes to their cricket, they may appear arrogant at times, but have always been a disciplined lot. So obviously this attitude is not acceptable. One has to also see if guys like Khwaja, Johnson and Pattinson have any brains to bring 3 ideas to the table first of all - but knowing Watto's abilities, he could easily bring 6 if not 3. Wish Mickey had called me! Would have given him 48 ideas for 16 players - I am not joking! Clarke has to think like that Allan Border of the 1980s. Rewrite the Aussie cricket fortunes from a much cleaner slate. He needs support from CA to do this, he may miss a star bowler like Pattin, but thats the way it is. Watto has shown a great decline in batting and he cant bowl these days - dont know if some of this is deliberate.

  • whoster on March 12, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    "It's not just about one incident."

    Well, according to the apologetic James Pattinson, it was about one incident in his case.

  • on March 12, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    A good captain is tested in bad times ! How well MS Dhoni handled the 8 failures in a row and how bad did Clarke. Can't remember the name of any other captain who ever said that 'I am the main culprit because i am the captain of the side' which he had said in Australia after the 8th successive overseas test match loses. HATS OFF !

  • on March 12, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    It's a tough position for Michael Clarke for sure. Not only has he been in career best form but also is, in my opinion, the best tactical captain in the game at the moment. With all that, he is currently surrounded by a team that lacks experience, performance and now, commitment. Losses such as those of Pattinson will have an impact on the side no doubt, but Clarke has to take the right road and assert authority when rules are not followed. The fact is, Australia need to work that much harder due to conditions being foreign to them, and having a team that is inexperienced and lacking in the ability of more recent Australian sides. The way to still extract the best out of that is by attitude and preparation. If any players can't bring that level of commitment, they simply can't be part of the winning equation. Hats off for a brave call by the Aust team management. And to PPD123's point, India should still beware and not let this incident make them overconfident.

  • KPWij on March 12, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    This is another nail in the coffin for sport being fun and about having a good time for the players as well as spectators. I agree competitive sportsmen are paid exorbitant amounts of money to play a game and accordingly standards and discipline must be maintained (disastrous performances should also be critically analysed). However by suspending players over what Clarke described as "minor disciplinary incidents" does not only hurt his team, but the sport in general. The viewing public want to see the best Australian team in terms of cricketing skill, not a team that can detail reflective accounts on how they can improve themselves. Punish them financially and keep it in house and don't punish the entertainment of the game... We want to see Johnson, Khawaja, Pattinson and Watson play... not the b-team...

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    I think discipline is a big part of cricket. Some players are not being picked to play the test matches and i think Khawaja has not played so far and he is not showing a good attitude to persuade Clarke to pick him. The whole squad is talented in their own way but you must show your determination and resilience that you want to play for Australia. Even if you are already playing, the coach can drop you for the next map so you should not take it lightly that you are already in the team and you think no-one else in the squad is good enough to replace you. This type of lack in discipline is dis-respecting our game. I admit that Khawaja has not played a test so far however i am sure he has been watching the matches so he can contribute by saying how other team members can improve in their technique or at least spot the flaw in the team. I support this decision by Clarke and Arthur because this will encourage future players to not repeat this type of lack in discipline.

  • landl47 on March 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    There are a lot of posters who either haven't read or haven't understood Clarke's statement. He made it clear that this was not an isolated incident but part of a bigger picture.

    Many countries have had problems with players over team issues. England recently had the KP affair, NZ have Jesse Ryder, Pakistan and SA have had players banned for betting activities and so on. Australia itself has had previous issues- those who say this wouldn't have happened under Ponting should think back to 2009 when Andrew Symonds was disciplined for turning up late and hung-over.

    Standards must be set and if players don't meet them consequences must follow, otherwise what's the point of setting standads in the first place? Arthur and Clarke must and will be judged on their results. If they succeed, then they have done it right. If not, someone else will be appointed- though who could possibly replace Clarke at the moment is a difficult question.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:43 GMT

    Cricket - especially Test cricket - is about so much more than runs and wickets. If it was just about the stats you could just compare the averages of two opposing sides and count up to see who would win. In the modern era it's about preparation, commitment, mental fortitude, desire, single-mindedness, teamwork, and all the other factors that individually seem trivial but taken together determine the difference between bad, good and great.

    So while former Aussie players are all expressing their outrage they're totally missing the point. The coach and the captain set the rules and if you simply can't be bothered to follow them then you don't play. It's that simple.

    I'm English but I'm totally behind what Michael Clarke and Mickey Arthur are doing. You just can't have people who either aren't pulling their weight or think the rules don't apply to them. Clarke is right to say it's not about the homework: it's about 'do you want to play for Australia?'

  • PPD123 on March 11, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    I think this can be debated both ways - When you argue it from the players side, it looks like a very harsh decision. Ask some former players (Someone like Ganguly may not have made his debut, if he was born in Aus) & they will feel it very harsh to axe players from the squad for this sort of "indiscipline". Cant see this working for the subcontinental teams. From a team mgmt perspective, it is about getting everyone in line with expectation. Contrary to what people may believe,this incident could either make or break this team. This could galvanize the remaining players to work their socks off & get a positive result or the players could just go their ways and fall apart. Mohali will be a test of character for this group.It will be interesting to see how this team goes. Finally a word of caution for team India - BEWARE. History is filled with instances where players/teams have performed incredible feats when pushed to the brink. Ind should continue to prepare well & stay focussed.

  • on March 13, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    No news about the Indian Team and their preparations....are they even gonna play this test match or they are all on a vacation?? Strange!!!

  • ABP235 on March 12, 2013, 17:33 GMT

    Attitude and Discipline are more important, and come much ahead of Performance. With the words Watto using, I am plainly surprised that this guy has been the product of Australian sports upbringing. Aussies are always tough when it comes to their cricket, they may appear arrogant at times, but have always been a disciplined lot. So obviously this attitude is not acceptable. One has to also see if guys like Khwaja, Johnson and Pattinson have any brains to bring 3 ideas to the table first of all - but knowing Watto's abilities, he could easily bring 6 if not 3. Wish Mickey had called me! Would have given him 48 ideas for 16 players - I am not joking! Clarke has to think like that Allan Border of the 1980s. Rewrite the Aussie cricket fortunes from a much cleaner slate. He needs support from CA to do this, he may miss a star bowler like Pattin, but thats the way it is. Watto has shown a great decline in batting and he cant bowl these days - dont know if some of this is deliberate.

  • whoster on March 12, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    "It's not just about one incident."

    Well, according to the apologetic James Pattinson, it was about one incident in his case.

  • on March 12, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    A good captain is tested in bad times ! How well MS Dhoni handled the 8 failures in a row and how bad did Clarke. Can't remember the name of any other captain who ever said that 'I am the main culprit because i am the captain of the side' which he had said in Australia after the 8th successive overseas test match loses. HATS OFF !

  • Cricket316 on March 12, 2013, 15:28 GMT

    Leadership demands "Believing in your players,Knowing your players well and discussing whats wrong and then trying to overcome those the problems". Thats the difference between MSD,Smith, Cook & well Clarke. These Captains have managed to get the "Best Cricket out of their players". The players might not perform everytime.

    Thats why the Selection becomes so crucial.You have to Pick the right Squad,then get the best out of your players by making them improving their Skills.Motivating and backing up your players is always important.Thats how a Player will give his best.You dont "Beat the Performance out of your players". Ozs picked the Wrong Squad in the 1st place and then they cant get them to perform and then the players have to be Axed Unceremoniously. Having a Captain having alot of Ego isnt helping.He's only thinking of his success as a Captain. The desperation of a Win,has led to this Carnage.

  • disco_bob on March 12, 2013, 15:22 GMT

    The ECB were seen by many including myself as being unnecessarily harsh on KP, but I suppose their actions were vindicated by his performance and contribution to their history 2-1 victory.

  • stumpedlloyd on March 12, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Oh, can you imagine the on-field teasing that is going to take place during the Ashes? I can see I can picture Swann and Prior asking the Aussie batsmen whether they've done their homework assignments when they come out to bat.

  • LoveCric1975 on March 12, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    Does taking the mickey Arthur wants his players to guide him in his job, the guy is a mess he thinks he is bigger than the game, he needs to get under andy flowers wings to understand player management imagine flower sacking kp trott bell and Anderson for not submitting an essay telling him how to do his own job. Extremely annoyed with mr mickey art hurt and equally with Clarke. Can Acb please remove this poor coach or andt flower and his English side will annihilate the Aussies

  • on March 12, 2013, 14:25 GMT

    I appreciate the CA's decision in taking steps to curb indiscipline. Years back when Kapil played an indiscreet shot in a Test match, he was banned for the next Test match. My question is, is the present Indian Cricket Board also capable of taking tough decisions?

  • rgunda on March 12, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Mate, You have done the right thing! the team is not performing and you got to manitain discipline in the team. If Watto cannot blend in to the team spirit you are better off without him. Good luck!

  • msdprabhakar on March 12, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    this is ridiculous to involve a lot of form filling and essay writtings in to the game....its just a sport mate....what is going on ...a man who has spent most of the time in rugby .....what he is doing in the austrailian dressing room analysing cricketers performance......not the way game should be played....i lost respect for clarke....

  • rowdypeter on March 12, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    clarke is not the ideal skipper. He is one of the world's best batsmen and I can see why Watson who sees the game better was resentful. The runs leaked down at thirdman and cover when the Indians batted after Shewag was out was all Clarke's bad captaincy. Pattosonw as bowling his heart out and the Indian pair were even scoring boundaries off mishits. It is good to have an attcking field but not when batsmen were on fifties looking at hundreds and big ones at thet. Bad enough the wicket was not helping. I will put Clarke as the worst captain since Kim Hughes.

  • Spike85 on March 12, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    I have been in a National sporting team and encountered this style of "coaching by the book". Where the coach believes he rules the players and they must do as he says rather than focus on their own personal preparation. This is a recipe for disaster - it leads to disharmony and poor performance. I have experienced it first hand. It assumes the the coach knows everything and the players are clones. It may work at schoolboy level but it is not how you prepare elite athletes. Ask Wayne Bennett - this is the opposite of what he practices for his NRL teams. The coaches role is to help each player prepare in the way that works best for them, not to direct them to do pointless group exercises. Clearly Arthur is out of his depth and i suspect that involving Clark in such issues is not helping team dynamics.

  • on March 12, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    I think this is another way for the "mighty" Australians to create excuses for defeats, since it is obvious that they are going to get lambasted in the remaining two tests. They [though not very openly] will then say "See, we lost becuase Watson, Johnson and Pattinson were not playing". Real intelligent crickecters.

  • on March 12, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    Serious issue...I saw Watson talking to Johnson during the match over the boundary rope, i think there is some egos and other things involved .

  • CricketFollowers on March 12, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    I believe no one can predict whats happening inside the dressing room. So whatever the team's captain and team management decides will be the final call inspite of all "hue and cry" from cricket fans. Some Australian cricket fans are calling indian pitches as dust bag which i reckon as absurd. If it is a dust bag when they won in India in 2004/05 why did they never complained about the pitches at that time. Based on Indian climatic condition these sort of turning pitches alone can be prepared. We are not complaining about the SA,ENG,WI or Aus pitches, that it is not a turning track. We accepted our defeats AWAY, in the same way Aus fans should. Series is not over yet but already i can see some Aus fans have started to talk about the pitches(A bad workman blames his tools). West indies 1970-90 team, Steve waugh's 98-2000 team and SA team from 92-till date never complained anything because they adapted the conditions and conquered wherever they went. They were the "REAL CHAMPIONS".

  • PACERONE on March 12, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    I doubt that if these four had filled out the required forms that it would of improved the teams play on the field.If you are unable to play spin or the moving ball filling out a report saying that is not going to help.Clarke and Arthur have failed in their duties as captain and coach and now and are now placing the blame on players.The selection panel has also failed.Australian teams have not been known for their honesty and integrity.Pointing had lots of problems and was never dropped.This is the new style of management.

  • on March 12, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    Some might say its bizarre and crazy to hand out that punishment, but I feel it was necessary..both clarke and arthur have actually set an example for the other team captains and coaches. Your coach and your captain are the boss..I would love to see dhoni and useless fletcher adapt this policy..the next thing u realise is dhoni is the first man to be thrown out :D

  • Igthorn on March 12, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Quoted: This is another nail in the coffin for sport being fun and about having a good time for the players as well as spectators.

    How is this a nail in the coffin? Will spectators really be worse off? So much so that cricket dies a little bit? The hysteria of these reactions to a disciplinary matter really seems out of proportion to the actual situation

  • on March 12, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    @ landl47 (March 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT) - There are a lot of posters who either haven't read or haven't understood Clarke's statement. He made it clear that this was not an isolated incident but part of a bigger picture.

    Can you please explain why Arthur contradicts and says it is just about this one incident ??? Perhaps the two should make a powerpoint presentation or get banned???

    Common sense has not prevailed - Patt with his career ahead fell into line and that was probably good politics - Watson is probably finished, the other 2 are really not up to it anyway

  • mysay on March 12, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    In Australian Cricket it's not about keeping couch potatoes around in the hope of winning a test series. No other team or fan will understand what comes with Playing for Australia. Though pup put's it lightly it's not. Discipline, Self Standard & Commitment to the Team is of paramount importance. We need to have this in tact, as that's what made us the best in the world a few years back. Without respecting the heads of the team, we are nothing. And if to get back into the top ranks again we need to get these priorities clear. We are talking about building a team for another 7 to 8 years, not for a test series in a dust bag. We still have capable and quality players. This is your chance. rise to it.

  • on March 12, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    If, as Clarke says, this is not an isolated incident, I think it says more about the competency of Clarke and Arthur than it does about the players. The art of good management is to spot trouble before it happens, or at the very least, catch it in it's early stages before it gets out of hand. If they have allowed things to escalate to a situation where 25% of the squad need such serious punishment then it's a huge measure of the management's failure. What punishment will CA hand out to them one wonders.

  • LoveCric1975 on March 12, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Laughable to suggest that 4 vital players be dropped from a test line up away from home due to paperwork issues. Mickey Arthur is using his first name in its true literal essence. Taking the mickey. If he needed 3 suggestions each, what's the problem with having a chat with the players and discuss openly. Players wouldn't feel comfortable in pencilling their views about team members in black and white as they would be apprehensive about how their remarks/suggestions will be interpreted by those fellow players who they might be blaming in their suggestions. It would have been a fruitless exercise anyway. The coach needs to reassess his priorities and be man enough to take the flak rather than create mountains out of molehills.

  • Sivashankar_XI on March 12, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    because of complacency the 4 might have not given the feedback. but axing them is completely unacceptable.

  • on March 12, 2013, 8:20 GMT

    @Soma C Sekhar ... perfect point! haha it might be MS Dhoni's deep strategy...he is a genius...

  • Kulaputra on March 12, 2013, 8:19 GMT

    Michael Clarke - well done. By sacking vice captain and your good performers you have ensured your own longevity as a captain or so you believe. Thank God you came after Ponting as under you, Ponting would not have survived one day !!!

  • VinodGupte on March 12, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    and we all thought only the teams from the subcontinent knew drama. i hope IND beats AUS so badly in the next two games that the entire AUS setup is shaken to its core.

  • on March 12, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    It may not be about one incident .... but it is certainly about one ego!!!

  • sunny0412 on March 12, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    this doesnt makes any sense, where was the coach and cricket board when ponting threw bat and borke Tv in india, i think coach and captain wanted escape goat which they got it , now after suspending four player after humiliating loss of 2 matches and sort of good players its a good way of saying we had no choice so we lost all. better way to escape is to get in written from players , what would a player write who couldnt perform its obviously they are under performing which will let the coach and captain escape. watson is a better player than clark who fits in any number. clark will be measured as a player when he opens batting and scores like watson , anyone thinks he clark can fit at any number

  • on March 12, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    My manager does that. Hmm, seems like he is inspired by Mickey :(

    Commmonn Mickey, keep cricket simple. Don't make it a business with reports , presentations . It is meant to be enjoyed.....ohhh my god, that's the crappiest thing that could have happened to cricket.....

  • cricketpurist on March 12, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    This policy of "What happens in the dressing room should remain in the dressing room" is too tough to crack. Hope Pattison takes it in a positive way and makes a come back soon. All we can say is Dhoni Luck is making a comeback

  • on March 12, 2013, 7:49 GMT

    Thank God this didnt happen during India's disastorous England and Australia tour. Maybe a pointer to how good a man-manager MSD is!!! Character is really tested when things dont go your way. Clarke had issues with Katich last year. On a different note, the full impact of MSD's Chennai innings is only now fully unfolding. Man of the Series Already!!! Hes cleaned up 4 Aussie members - 2 critical players among them and boy, oh boy, has he set the cat among the pigeons!!!

  • VillageBlacksmith on March 12, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    arthur asking the players to tell him how to improve the team?? thats his job surely? he obv has no ideas when you look at the selections and listen to him... keep going mickey!! what a larf... Hodge may well be in for the ashes when everyone else walks out!

  • Cricket316 on March 12, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    @PerfectTEn- The comment is uncalled for. Im sure you are delusional and immature, so I consider you're a kid. Yours is the worst comment i've seen on Cricinfo. Get some discipline in your life n prepare a ppt. If India, wasn't disciplined, they wouldn't have the Success they've had so far. Its about determination and toiling on the field, not ppt presentations. One team has to Win,the Other has to loose. Watson was their No2 Batsman,Pattinson best bowler in squad.Haven't you noticed, the entire world is calling it Unfair(including many Ozs) and many are laughing at the decision. Discipline doesn't mean you start a dictatorship. Thats affects the Morales and more importantly, the Unity of the Team. All the other players,must be thinking, "Thats a Harsh discipline,dont you think ?" They"ll be in the fear of another Axing in the future,instead of focusing on their game well. Look what Eng did, they fought back with the same team(only Panesar came in) Thats discipline !!

  • on March 12, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    All this would not have happened if Australia was winning.

  • hycIass on March 12, 2013, 7:11 GMT

    It was a fundamental flaw in the Argus Review (one of quite a few imo). Making Michael Clarke and Mickey Arthur selectors. If there was ever a more surefire way to disturb team culture and create disharmony within the squad then that was it.Mickey Arthur's job is to create the team tactics (in conjunction with Clarke). Also he is there to provide advice on players wanting to improve and help them with techical issues that are affecting their games. How can a player (like Phil Hughes say) go to Mickey Arthur and say he is struggling with one area of his game, if Mickey Arthur can then go away and drop him for it.Also Clarke should not be involved in the selection process. That was always going to lead to trouble. He naturally is not going to want to drop his "mates" for fear of getting on the wrong side of them. Pattinson as our best bowler should not miss out, Khawaja deserve his chance as he is one of our better younger batsman and they should not be caught up in issues bet C an VC

  • PerfectTen on March 12, 2013, 6:58 GMT

    A brave and right decision by the Oz tour management. I'm seeing a lot of comments by the Indian fans calling it unfair. That's coz Indians (not just the cricketers) are averse to any kind of discipline in their lives & that's quite evident in the way we tolerate mediocrity in every field here. It's ok to lose two more matches and go back brown-washed and in the process, instill that much needed discipline in this team game than compromise. For a team in transition, its better to set the guidelines now rather than later. In India, we have never used the whip whenever needed and instead hero-worshipped guys like Ganguly.

  • on March 12, 2013, 6:35 GMT

    Why punish fans of cricket???

  • on March 12, 2013, 6:32 GMT

    Our Indian team lost eight test matches on a trot.No body owned any responsibility.Wonder this is what made Australian the champion side.They hate to lose.Sure Dhoni and co would be amused seeing all these proceedings.People like Jadeja would be thinking ,when I can represent Indian test team.Whats wrong with Shane Watson???

    Sounds very hilarious to me.

  • on March 12, 2013, 6:32 GMT

    It`s coming off isn`t it? This Ausie team better get it together fast, as a Saffa I don`t particularly like the Ausies but I like the English even less, so get it together before the Ashes

  • VDubey on March 12, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    My respect for Clark has gone up by several notches in last few months. To start with, he is an incredible batsman. He is a team man, and a very competent cricketer. Now about his leadership - he sets very high standards for himself and expects his team to emulate the same. It is a very very brave leadership decision. It may have positive or negative consequences, that only time can tell. In my opinion, he has the ability of being one of the best captain the world cricket has ever seen.

  • Crick_Chater on March 12, 2013, 6:25 GMT

    Sacking of these 4 players is music to opponent's ears!!!!!

    My reflections and improvement for Australian team for next two tests is this

    1: Team Australia, just tell yourself LOUDLY and I mean really loudly..

    Indian ain't get us out for once, even if we play for 1000 days test match. Come hell or high waters we ain't getting out..period..double period.

    2: Attack Attack Attack the Indian bowlers with discipline regardless if they are spinner or fast bowlers... They are vulnerable against aggressive batting.

    3: Throttle the Indian batting.. Be aggressive really aggressive.. Tell yourself.. Indian team won't even last 50 overs and you will get them out even if they are allowed to play 10 more innings then you in a test match....

    Coach Micky Arthur tell this to your Boys take your heart in you hands and play like a hungry tiger unleashed on deers..

  • Theredbaron on March 12, 2013, 6:21 GMT

    What the hell is going on, dropping the second best allrounder in the world from your test side. Sorry Australia, you do not have the required stock levels at the moment to do that. Imagine Gary Kirsten dropping JK for such a trivial offence. Sometimes I think Micky Arthur is a South African agent sent to Australia to mess up Aussie cricket.

  • on March 12, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    Micky isnt a good enough coach.. when will australia realise this??

  • on March 12, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    Given the OZ team is going through the transition with the sudden absence of Ponting and Hussey haunting them, no second thoughts on disciplinary issues, but just that not writing three points looks too flimsy. It would have been better if a team meeting was called for and the players compelled (!!) to give their views for improvement one by one, which would have amicably solved the issue. It is a bit difficult to believe that just these four players who did not care to air / write their viewpoints only did not stick to the high standards that Clarke has spoken about. And perhaps the issue could have been handled indoors without giving rise to this much of debate whether the action taken is right or wrong rather than what actions they need to take on field to wriggle out of further shame in the series. The issue seems to have been handled more with emotion than tact.

  • USMANRANDHAWA on March 12, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    That is a brave decision made by Ausses and every one should learn from it.

  • on March 12, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    Big big mistake by not playing Pattinson or Johnson in Mohali!

  • javed.agrawala on March 12, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    This is a message for a team like Pakistan too. Discipline is paramount. i would much rather see lesser so called "talented" players than disciplined ones who don't rely on flash. Take their simple and not so simple catches and field just above or at par. Those who do not rely on a few sixes every five matches or so to get by and most of all don't cheat and prefer to put in an honest day's work! Somewhere along this line success will come and so too will brilliance. In any instance since the poor discipline record has not Pakistan performed poorly? This works for all teams and the public would rather see a committed even if lesser player than someone who walks all over management!

  • 777aditya on March 12, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    @ Ax777 - Could not agree with you more, sir. Gotta love your conviction!

    @ PPD123 - "Contrary to what people may believe, this incident could either make or break this team." - With all due respect, have you realized you have expressed both possibilities, so what are the people left with to contradict?!

    Everything said and done, its a simple case of these four used as crash dummies (scapegoats is too lame to use in Aussie cricket context) in an experiment gone awry. Perhaps, Pup is suffering from PTSD after playing under Punter and wants to impress the world with true sportsmanship - eye opener, every team in IPL which has won the fair play award has fared poorly in performance (cannot ever resist dragging IPL into everywhere, its my hobbyhorse)!

  • Pathiyal on March 12, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    this incident of sacking the players while the series is in progress was so unfortunate. i felt with shane watson this has been going on for a while - since Ricky Ponting's retirement he seemed to appear a different person. with him and pattinson out, they are making the path easier for team India.

  • on March 12, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    Is Cricket a game? Or,war? Whatever happened to the charm of playing cricket? Particularly international cricket, where you are rubbing shoulders with equally great players from different parts of the world? Whatever happened to fiercely competitive game on the field for the whole day, and get to the pub in the evening and enjoy yourself-- the victor and vanquished together? Of, that cricket...I miss you, for all the pleasure you gave cricket lovers. Compare that with the emotions it evoke now. Anger? Punishments? Hatred? Mutual ridicules? Nasty personal remarks? Where is the...fun? Joy?

  • tjaswal on March 12, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    Something is not right about Michael Clarke. There are just too many instances of things coming to a head and becoming a 'public issue', whether it is his interaction with his own team members, or opponents. He has unfairly claimed a catch (Ganguly's), claimed to have heard an exchange between 2 players on field that he couldn't possibly have (Harbhajan-Symonds), fought with a team member on a trivial issue (Katich), been instrumental in bringing a talented career to a close (Symonds) and now this... Regular guys (particularly in leadership roles) do not let issues simmer and come to a boil. It's almost like Clarke enjoys taking a pedantic approach to relationships, rather than instinctively relate to his fellow human beings man to man. He seems to have a severe EQ deficit. Sad to see the state of Australian cricket, even as an Indian.

  • HaleemChowdhury on March 12, 2013, 5:23 GMT

    Australia's test status should be removed.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on March 12, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    I have often talked about the downward slide of Oz cricket. Now its a runaway train running out of tracks. Love the way ozzie fans on this forum are quick to blame mickey arthur for their demise. Its been happening for years before Arthur joined, oz simply hasnt been able to replace retirees of the same quality. Simple.

  • on March 12, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Hats off to Clarke and Arthur. Particularly considering the present position of his team, Clarke is very Bold and I think he is well disciplined sportsman to take this harsh decision. I believe his self confidence will not let down him in the next 2 test and will give good tough fight to India. Other teams coaches and captains should learn this to how handle their team colleagues who ever havn't taken granted their presence in their team and behave lethargically.

    Hope India will not have over confidence due the absence of the dropped players in the next match and play causally. . All the Best for both the teams to give us good entertainment.

  • parvez_asad on March 12, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    The decision might be right for the moment. But how Clarke and Arthur expect those three players to perform to win the last match for Australia given that Watson will not return for the last match.

  • mrgupta on March 12, 2013, 4:59 GMT

    Why in the World would you Sack your best bowler of the tour? Aussies were already weaken and without Pattinson and Watson things are only going to get even tougher. Can't believe they sacked Pattinson and Watson that too when the team is in crises.

  • EnosSlaughter on March 12, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    As far as Khawaja/Johnson go, their feedback should have been - how about picking me in the team

  • gptnitesh on March 12, 2013, 4:48 GMT

    For Michael clark, situation is like as he got the team of fresher and asked to deliver in quick time with quality. Is it possible ? I think Clark is doing everything correct in this tough tour but it is just he does not have the quality team as of now with him. Other than Clark noone played enough test cricket to compete with India in sub continent.It is a team game and alone captain can not win the game. Waston and Pattinson should not have shown this kind of attitude when they were the part of the first and second test. They should have done whatever asked by Micky arthur. If you are winning noone questions but if you are at loosing side then whole team is answerable.

  • British_North_America on March 12, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    Now Australia would loose the third test as well but Australia got some excuses.They can say Watson and Pattinson did not play.

  • British_North_America on March 12, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    Drop Clarke and Micky, bring new blood, this is the only solution.

  • on March 12, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    Ridiculous. Pattinson was the best performing bowler, bowling 150K and his heart out on wickets that did not help him at all. Would you rather Henriques take the new ball now that he tuned in his essay? With "Bird also having flown home", who takes the new ball if Siddle gets injured? Starc & Henriques on the greenest pitch the Indians can offer??? If Mickey Arthur had any brains at all, he would have tapped some senior players like Shane Watson & Mitchell Johnson, the ones who have been there before, and said "I would really appreciate your input", instead of making it an essay assignment for ALL. Watto's ego would have been massaged, and he would have given a lot of inputs. Mickey Arthur is the one who needs to go to some people management training seminar, whilst the players simply practice and take rest.

  • baseball_sucks on March 12, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    We have a coach, batting coach, bowling coach, a coaching coach, silly sports scientists, they have coaches, a 'high performance coach' whatever that is. All these experts there to help us win. When we don't win however, it's the players fault for not filling out medical forms stating how many weetbix they ate or completing stupid homework assignments. Give me a break. Who's responsible for the Hughes selection and dropping our front line spinner for a test match in India. Who organises useless 1 dayers against WI on home soil right before a tour of Indian dustbowl pitches. Dropping players for this, unbelievable.

  • EverybodylovesSachin on March 12, 2013, 4:13 GMT

    This is what happens when you start building your team in hurry..and you force retire good players because they are so called not young anymore..

  • tony122 on March 12, 2013, 4:13 GMT

    This recent statement of Clarke "LAST STRAW ON THE CAMEL;S BACK" confirms my theory he is less a very bold and wise cricket captain as many seem to think but a over eager and bit immature individual out to prove his worth.

  • EnosSlaughter on March 12, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Bring back Warnie I say

  • Cricket_soccer on March 12, 2013, 4:09 GMT

    Been a fan of Aussie Cricket for a really long time. Never thought this would have happened. Was really looking forward to see Khawaja play in the third test match but this ain't gonna happen. Can anyone answer my questions? Has anyone ever heard of a game where the players are supposed to present through a powerpoint presentation? What is Cricket Australia trying to prove by axing some of it's best players? Isn't a player supposed to prove his worth in the field? And how can a player like Maxwell make into the test side? And the way Hughes is batting he won't even be able to make it into any of the test sides. Honestly Cricket Australia has been a laughing stock. And those who think Arthur and Clarke have done a decent job will be proven wrong in the near future. Pray that Australia won't be bowled out below 100.

  • on March 12, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    If there was 'continued failure' why did clarke as captain, arthur as coach and team management allow it to continue? Why did they sweep it under the carpet until now? Clarke, Arthur and management need to have a look witin, as this is a reflection of thier leadership. All parties need to take responsibility.

  • on March 12, 2013, 3:56 GMT

    This is why OZ's are always best.....

  • agent001 on March 12, 2013, 3:40 GMT

    Is CA running a prison camp or a bunch of high paid professional cricketers. Hat-off to Watson for not putting up with any of this crap. Lucky for CA that only 4 had been axed for "non presentation", if 6 had not made the presentation then additional players would have to be rushed in from the homeland ? What a joke is this leadership team ? Playing the blame game ?

  • Whitefield_Cricket_Fan on March 12, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Currently, everything is going fine for India. But , looking at the history of Indian cricket and its problems, what Australia is facing today is a everyday issue in Indian Cricket. I'm talking about the attitude of the players. Due to the current success, this is not surfacing. I guess, the attitude issue is surfacing big time with Sehwag, Gambhir , Harbhajan, Yuvraj Singh , Praveen Kumar and many more on day-to-day basis. It also appears that Dhoni is very strict in the way he handles his players, which cannot be digested by players like Sehwag, Gambhir , Harbhajan & Yuvraj Singh who had success for good part of their career and they expect free lunch for their past performance. I wish we continue to find captains like Dhoni in coming years/decades and having said that I'm seriously hoping that Dhoni is indeed a very strict captain when it comes to expectation/ work ethics and high standards of commitment.

  • ajithabey on March 12, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Very good decision by Cricket Australia which other cricket boards should follow.No player is indispensable and should abide by the contractual arrangements and decisions taken as a team.Great inititative.Indiscipline should not be tolerated at any time as it's the game which suffers due to such acts by professional players.

  • SpinningBouncer on March 12, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    Behind every seemingly dramatic and controversial decision lies a history of events and factors ;)

  • Ms.Cricket on March 12, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    I'm guessing Watson did put in a response to Mickey and it went like this. "What will help the team by Watto: 1. Bat Clarkey up the order. Why in the hell in a team of 5 batsmen, your so-called 'best batsman' sticks like a limpet to no. 5? 2. Get a new captain. The current one has no clue how to get the Indians out, underbowls Pattinson one day, overbowls him the next, drops his best spinner Lyon and fills the team with non-wicket takers like Siddle and Henriques. 3. Get a new coach. Seriously the current one is a huge joke. I guess I'll have to score a massive 250+ in the next Test myself and captain the side to glory. Otherwise nothing else to say. Cheers, Watto."

  • on March 12, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    That's a rather harsh decision. What about dropping players who are not performing?

  • on March 12, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    No one is against enforcing standards in the dressing room and being stern to discipline players if needed.

    But there is a difference between a strict teacher and a crazy teacher. A strict teacher toes the line between warnings and punishments, and relies on reason and trust . A crazy teacher lashes out with unexpected, unreasonable consequences and relies on fear and humiliation.

    Arthur and Clarke seem frustrated, panicky, had their backs to the walls and they lost it.

    "We won't consider you for the 3rd match if you don't send the feedback. I won't give reminders in the future." seems like a stern enough warning to discipline a self-respecting grownup.

  • Kev_of_course on March 12, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    Mickey, Successful communication is measured by the response you get. This looks like a failure to communicate (or motivate) to me. If they ignored you knowing the consequences then fair enough but noone is mentioning deadlines or warnings. What teamwork ethic were you testing ? Was it their ability to understand your commuication technique ? If there were other instances, were they with the same players ? The current story just doesn't smell right or otherwise you are not communicating effectively. If there is more to this than so far stated, you need to say so because right now you appear to be blaming others for your own failings

  • Jay_74 on March 12, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    Stuffy rules and harsh punishment should not be mistaken for a professional approach to management. The questions to ask are: what is the Aussie team management trying to achieve from this entire exercise? Is indiscipline the diagnosis as to why the team is failing? If there is rampant indiscipline in the squad - which we don't get to see from the outside, what have Arthur and Clarke done to nip it early? I don't know about Khwaja. But Watson is a as professional as they come. Has he been dropped for not doing his presentation by Saturday evening? To me it appears that this team lacks skills to play in the sub-continent and the management is clueless on the direction this team should take from here.

  • on March 12, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    this step might sink current Australian test cricket. and Ashes is ahead......

  • VivGilchrist on March 12, 2013, 2:59 GMT

    Why isn't the coach accountable? What does he actually do?

  • Noboundary on March 12, 2013, 2:56 GMT

    Cricket is a sport not a corporation run by directors! It is so naive to believe that you can improve performance presenting by powerpoint presentations! Look at the WI and Aussie teams of the 80s... they just came to the field and beat the hell out of everybody! I don't think they scribbles bullet points on a piece of paper! Grow up CA.

  • on March 12, 2013, 2:53 GMT

    I employ 35 people and yes I have sacked people and I have let people go for disciplnary reasons - wheres the difference !!!! These guys get paid a truckload by there employer and standards have been set and should be met . i say good on the Management for doing what they have done . read kawaja's managers comments - he said if these guys were in the AFL or NRL they would have got worse . hes right - too many boofheads from a past that want to pass judgement . Shock me and tell me there isnt a concerted effort by some parties down in Melbourne to get Micky out of the job and get there own mates in the role who now reside in Brisvegas !!!!

  • on March 12, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    Mr. Petty Perfectionist talks about building "team culture" but he has no idea of what that really means...just ask Simon Katich!

  • mjcoxx on March 12, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    Okay, so this wasn't just about one incident but this raises more questions. Could we please have some detail on what the other incidents were? Were these four repeat offenders or are they just being made an example of to get everyone with the program? (What ever the hell that is, it doesn't seem to be working.) Was the team made aware of the potential consequences of failing to complete this assignment or was this punishment decided after the fact?

  • Barnesy4444 on March 12, 2013, 2:21 GMT

    There was a time not long ago when lack of discipline meant staying out too late at a night club and getting drunk. Maybe if these 4 players were made to give their presentations in front of the entire group, that would have been quite embarrassing.

  • Vishal_07 on March 12, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    To Clarke: you just handed the Border-Gavaskar trophy to Dhoni, mate!

  • vj3478 on March 12, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    I m waiting for the cartoon from Satish

  • ribtuhud on March 12, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    As Shane Warne once said "A Coach is something that you go to the game in".

  • Vishal_07 on March 12, 2013, 2:11 GMT

    Wow, corporate world or cricket pitch, these are grown men we are talking about. If there are issues, then least you do is have one on ones, brainstorming sessions (if that is your cup of tea), seminars, and if nothing works then you let go of the management not the grass roots employees.

    These are players not essay writers. Leave that to the journalists!

  • on March 12, 2013, 2:11 GMT

    Good work Clarke. If the players aren't performing and are side-stepping team protocol then I see no reason why they shouldn't be dropped from Australia's 1st side. Those guys clearly weren't playing for each other or the team as a whole and it showed in the 1st two test matches...a shame really after the wonderful performances against South Africa earlier in the season. In saying that though, India are a pretty good side at home and Ashwin is on fire!

  • njr1330 on March 12, 2013, 2:07 GMT

    But Mickey Arthur said it WAS just about the one incident; so if there are others, is Michael Clarke going to tell us what they are?!

  • agent001 on March 12, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    I believe that two comprehensive losses (including an innings defeat) by CA in India have been very hard for the leadership team to swallow. They are looking for scapegoats rather than having their players respond in the field via the bat and the ball. Of course, if the deadline was missed a polite reminder was in order rather then axing the four professionals. CA have shot themselves in the foot and a India whitewash seem imminent now with the dissension amongst the CA team members.

  • davent on March 12, 2013, 2:01 GMT

    Time for the rest of the team to stand up, and tell Aurther they need a rest for the next test. Sooner he is gone the better.

  • Will90 on March 12, 2013, 1:58 GMT

    @All those saying that Khawaja and Johnson couldn't have made presentations; how about making a case for why they should be selected for the next test? You'd think they'd be eager to take any opportunity to get into the team.

    It will be interesting to see the makeup of the XI, we now have four batsmen, Haddin who hasn't had any match practice, and a host of bits and pieces allrounders!

  • on March 12, 2013, 1:43 GMT

    firstly, to call cricket "only a game" is a disrespect to the persons who play cricket. In most countries involved in the sport, it is another part of their culture and heritage and those people hold a lot of pride in winning this game. I also would like to commend this decision, it shows what being in a cricket team is all about. Its not just about hitting runs and getting wickets but conduct off field are also play a very important role. The level of discipline in a team could also play a very big part in the performance of a team, for discipline off field brings discipline on field and it is well known that disciplined cricket on field brings victory. Take W.Indies for example, a lack of discipline has been the downfall of west indian cricket for a while now. In most recent times, they have been playing much better and their off field discipline has been good as well. we can now see them trying to rebuild what they lost so long ago due to their newfound spirit and discipline.

  • brusselslion on March 12, 2013, 1:41 GMT

    I'm confused. As I understood it this (European) morning, my interpretation of what Arthur said was that Khawaja's behaviour had not been up to scratch; that Pattinson & Johnson could have been better but that Watson was very professional but that he had let himself done over this matter and, unfortunately for him, a line had to be drawn somewhere and he found himself on the wrong side of it.

    However, Clarke now infers that this is not an isolated incident for any of the four. Someone care to enlighten me please?

  • Anwaruzz on March 12, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    We in BAN also have these sort of attitude problems with a few of our players. All the players should be given a copy of this article and so too to the board official, team coach and captain. No one is indispensible and a cricket team should be totally professional and with full commitments. They are a highly paid and idolised bunch of youngmen, the onus is on them not to lose their focus on the job in hand. Shabash ! AUS for teaching others what professionalism truely is !!!

  • derpherp on March 12, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    Good on you Clarkey. We need more angry, take-no-crap captains like we have had in the past.

  • Clyde on March 12, 2013, 1:27 GMT

    At last, at least, the pear of pear-shape has exploded. As many dismayed followers must have been saying over and over and over in recent times, how about being led by player talent and not military style, or worse? There are certain people you steer clear of not because they are not admirable in their way, but it is not your way. Australian and New Zealand cricket coaches don't suit my idea of Australian, and I am an Australian. I am only relieved these four did not toe the alien line. Thank goodness!

  • Mitcher on March 12, 2013, 1:25 GMT

    Fairly indicative of the situation that among the many calling for Clarke's head, the only alternative I've seen mentioned here is Steve Smith... That's right. You know the guy: can't bowl; horrible batting technique; oversized caps. Not much more need be said.

  • on March 12, 2013, 1:00 GMT

    I don't get all this talk about aspirations of being the no.1 Test team in the world. This Australian team is clearly in transition and players are currently fighting just to cement there spot in the team. They don't need all of these other pressures. This team is struggling because of talent -- not because of bad attitude.

  • on March 12, 2013, 0:40 GMT

    As far as I aware coaches are paid to help players improve their game. So they are the ones who should be identifying weaknesses and working with them to get them corrected. So why put responsiblity on the players for what the coach should be doing on an on going basis not to mention the fat salaries they earn for so doing.

  • on March 12, 2013, 0:40 GMT

    Australia is a team which is still in decline and not yet in recovery. I've read previously comparisons of Clarke to Border (who led the team of the mid 80's from rock bottom back to the start of a dominant era).... however, I would compare Clarke to Lara who was the dominant batsman & captain following the Windies 15 year dominance. Lloyd (WI) & Border/Taylor started the dominance, Viv (WI) & Steve Waugh continued, Richie Richardson & Ponting continued the dominance for a period & then oversaw the start of a decline following the retirement of their teams greats. Next is Lara & Clarke for their teams and the decline continues along with destabilisation.

    Clarke is a v.good batsman (particularly since taking the captaincy) & might be a good fielding captain - but is he a uniting captain or a dividing captain? And if he is the latter, which there is evidence for in this incident and in the past (Katich), then is he going to lead Australian cricket's recovery or continue the decline?

  • 777aditya on March 12, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    Discipline is a word which begs to be perceived differently in different walks of life. For example, we do not need an army like discipline in cricket and especially not so in an Aussie team. If the players in question would have followed their exercise routine, practice drills, diet, etc in a disciplined manner, actually it is nobody's business what they do in their personal lives as long as its legal and not affecting the team morale. It is plain stupid to assume all players would maintain a certain decorum at all times. Punter and Pup seem to be at the two extremes of the spectrum. I thought I would never live to say this, but the discipline fanatic, baby-faced Pup is way more scarier than the spitting in his own hands, forever fighting, never at rest Punter. Both, of course, have been great batsman and have served Australia well. Sammy is also a softie and a self-confessed mama's boy, but leads a team full of mavericks way better than Clarke.

  • on March 12, 2013, 0:35 GMT

    These things not taking no where , Australian team management not bothered about Australian cricket image , these kind of things can be done discreate ways especialy in a touring another country,Its another stuff up and blunder. If suppose 7 or 8 players done the same thing how clark or micky would have handled it, Are you going to drop those 7 or 8 and forfeit the 3rd test, common , Its all about managing players, more than players it seems something wrong with the management, they are not sure many things,which way to go, they always had extra players from 1st test of N.Z 2011

  • Claydo78 on March 12, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    All this drama is really just deflicting the real issue, this current group just isnt good enough to get to the worlds number test team! You simply cant get a great test team by filling it with 20/20 players, its ever going to work! This allrounder search is becoming a laughable and its freddy flintoves fault! Freddy tore us about in 2005 with bat and ball, ever since australia have been trying to find they own allrounder. 8 years later we will have 3 in the team but none of the qualtiy of freddy. And of course in watson, an allrounder who cant bowl in fear of injury! Doolan, cosgrove could into that top order and instantly improve it. Tell why okeefe isnt at aleast in the squad, he avg is 27 in state cricket; great for austrakian decks! Maxwell, smith and lyon should be on the the plane with watson flying home with doolan, cosgrove and okeefe going the other way!

  • Mary_786 on March 12, 2013, 0:18 GMT

    @Avidcricketfani appreciate your viewpoint but have to disagree. Our issue is onfield not on giving presentations, Its about working hard in the nets and executing our skills which we haven't done so. I'd like to know how Khawaja and Johnston could have contributed much of review when they didn't even play in the "wave the white flag" that was the second test... This is awesome news, the greater public are looking for our cricket side to actually compete and they drop 4 big names like this. Way to go Mick.

  • ruester on March 12, 2013, 0:05 GMT

    For the vice captain of an Australian Test side to be reprimanded in such away is shameful. It shows a total lack of respect for the team and the nation. I think this should be the end of Watto. He has hardly justified his place as solely a batsman.

  • on March 12, 2013, 0:03 GMT

    This is no less ridiculous than it was yesterday. If standards are slipping among the ranks it is because management is showing abominable leadership. I would rather a team of wild rats than one of obedient lemmings.

  • Pontiac on March 11, 2013, 23:56 GMT

    Perhaps this issue here is a difference of perspectives. From one perspective, it's about playing for Australia. Another perspective might say that this isn't precisely the same thing as playing for Arthur and Clarke.

    What's missing from /my/ perspective is any acknowledgement on their part that the mere fact that it's come to this is by definition a leadership failure in what led up to it. Not even a tinge of embarrassment...?

  • Yoker111 on March 11, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    Bring George Bailey into the team. In my opinion he is one of the few Austrailian cricketers who is a gentlemen and can play the game as well. I think he has a better future than kwajah an can alsorise to the occasion!!!

  • Elifent on March 11, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    It seems that the axed four were not trusting the coach on game tactics or happy with Clarke's leadership! oh wait a minute. 2 of them didn't even wear a hat in the last 2 tests. So why did they axe them? Were they giggling in a team meeting or something?. Pup ain't no captaincy material for sure. He is an insecure captain. Nobody thinks he has the 'it' to lead the team. Pup is yapping about setting standards...what? A team that was once infamous for it's sledging? If he meant about winning then the standards could get set in eventually after a few wins.. right boy?. Not in a new team which just got started playing together. Cricket should be played with enjoyment and if there is no enjoyment none wins. The whole idea of threatening, standards, axing,bullying etc..sounds like dictatorship..insecure leadership. Pup and Arthur should have thought about ways of developing a camaraderie between the players and not on firing it's talented players. Talent is abundant but the gelling.

  • on March 11, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    @landl47 clarke was captain when symonds was sent packing

  • Jayzuz on March 11, 2013, 23:40 GMT

    You can't read too much into what Clarke says. He has no choice but to advocate 100% endorsement of Arthur and the decision. It's all or nothing here. He can't say "Well, that was a bit harsh, but I'll go with it for the good of the team." He HAS to support the measures taken unequivocally. So we just don't know what his role here is. I thought Clarke's comments after the second test were perfectly appropriate, where he said the performance was not good enough. Getting the guys to practice on the game strip right after the game was also fine - very smart actually. I don't see any evidence that he is personally at fault for some of the absurd issues that have arisen lately. In fact his own captaincy and play on the field has been fantastic. Sacking 4 players does seem harsh- whoever is behind it - after all, Australia had list only one ODI and test series in the previous 2 1/2 years prior to this tour. Performances have been good, overall.

  • johns291 on March 11, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    Clarke, Arthur et al need to pull their heads in. Asking the inmates how to best run the asylum is not generally considered good policy. Watson's main problem is that he overthinks his cricket. Asking Khawaja how to improve his performance is a nonsense given that her has not been selected in the first two tests and historically only seems to be selected for one test at a time. Pattinson has been exemplary, and Johnson like Khawaja has not been selected in the first two tests and like Watson seems to play his best when he does not overthink his game.

    If a punishment needs to be meted out for disciplinary reasons then it should be one that punishes the individual rather than the team and entire nation. Fines, additional training sessions, community service are all options that does not punish those who are innocent - ie. the Australian cricketing public.

    That being said - how hard is it to submit the following three dot points - field better, bat better, bowl better. QED.

  • maddy20 on March 11, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    Dropping James Pttinson is probably the stupidest decision Clarke would have made. He has taken more wickets than anyone else in the series and dropping them is plain silly. I though Johnson and Khawaja will come in for the next game and now by shutting the door on them, Mickey & Clarke have ensured that there's no way back for them in the series. This is will be the second consecutive whitewash for them in India

  • elsmallo on March 11, 2013, 23:17 GMT

    Australia's questionable selection policy over the last year and a half hardly gives the team management authority to do this. Arthur might argue he has been clear with his players, but any side with the amount of player turnover as his cannot be expected to be 100% tight and together. It's also a mistake - I think a jingoistic fad - to expect Australian cricketers to behave like automatons and subsume themselves in the 'baggy green' - the Australian side has always in my memory had a streak of individualism and relied at times on non-conformist individuals - within a tough, competitive cricketing environment. The great 90s-00s side hid this extremely well through success, but there existed some significant clashes - approach and personality - which they left off the field. Good teams manage this where possible. I hope they can put this right soon. Great AUS sides pick the best 11, then the captain. The current problem is how to pick 11 world-class players out of 16 good ones. Tough.

  • Meety on March 11, 2013, 23:17 GMT

    My only concern over this whole thing is, that sometimes people in management can set up a task & wait for persons to fail. So what I would say is, perhaps there could of been some sort of reminder at some stage, letting players know that they are serious about the task. == == == One my biggest complaints about Watto is that there doesn't seem to be much "cricket" between the ears. Dumb run outs, the odd brain explosion, the bowling issues that drain his batting. He should NEVER of been made Vice Captain - can anyone imagine Watto going onto a coaching career in cricket? I certainly can't. This may (or may not) be a classic example of how he has treated his career. "... given Watson's comments about considering his future..." - this could be the silver lining. He should be thinking about his career. It sometimes seems that despite all his setbacks - he still takes his place for granted, & given he always gets RUSHED back into the team - I wonder who could really blame him!

  • Mary_786 on March 11, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    Agree with Border, Waugh and boof on this. This decsion doesn't make sense and a poor decision is a poor decision, no matter how good your leader is. Clarke has really alienated himself from public now. He was hard to warm to at the best of times and this won't help sentiment. I mean Johnson and Khawaja didn't play any games yet and as much as i don't support Watson's batting this tour for him to leave the party like this shows this decision went too far. I'm putting a bit of cash on Arthur being dropped within 6 months.

  • noplay on March 11, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    I notice that the three featured comments are all in support of the action of the management. For those of you saying that the readers do not understand what Clarke is saying, I understand perfectly what he meant by the "continued failure of some players to meet the standards set by the team". Phil Hughes, for example, clearly meets those standards on the field and may have been the first to submit recommendations to the coach. He is that committed.

  • Jeepster on March 11, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    Clarke seems to be operating under the assumption that his current form will never desert him and he can be as arrogant as he pleases. Perhaps these four players have had the courage to draw their own line in the sand and refuse to be treated like school boys. True respect is earned - not enforced with a big stick!

  • Nelsonop on March 11, 2013, 23:05 GMT

    Arthurs asking the players to do his job. As leader, he is the one who has the responsibility to create an environment of open and honest communication. If his players, or a player, are not interested in talking to him, and that's what he wants, then he needs to change what he is doing.

    Taking the stick to the players will only alienate them further.

    They may come on board but it will only be a token. Underneath the (dis)respect will still be there. You can't force or demand respect. To have sincere respect it must be earned.

    This is people skills 101. You'd think and national sporting coach would have passed that course????

  • D.V.C. on March 11, 2013, 23:00 GMT

    If the on-field performances were what was troubling Clarke then perhaps people should have been dropped on that basis! That is a selector's job description, is it not? To pick players based on on-field performance.

  • on March 11, 2013, 22:53 GMT

    Can't imagine Dennis Lillee, Alan Border or the Chappel's filling out daily wellness forms or writing a paper outlining what they were going to bring to the team

  • cricmatters on March 11, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    I wonder if they would do this on an Ashes Tour. It is ridiculous and desperate move to shift the blame and divide the team further by saying certain individuals are responsible for all that is wrong with Australian team. Mathew Hayden's success against India in the past was not an accident. He trained hard on his fitness and almost perfected the sweep shot that he played so often to get out of trouble. The best way to counter spin is to play the ball as late as possible and with soft hands. How many training sessions Micky Arthur organised for the team to simulate Indian conditions? Alister Cook has done exceptionally well in India. Did anybody take note of how he played in India and pass on that information to the team? Have the players been warned that they would be dropped if they don't comply? Were players warned in writing for any prior breach of discipline? Simply saying that your attitude is not good, pack your bags and leave is not good management.

  • shot274 on March 11, 2013, 22:41 GMT

    The one who should have flown home is Micky Arthur!!

  • kellhound on March 11, 2013, 22:37 GMT

    I agree wholeheartedly - discipline is an important part of the team. For those that agree with Watto's comments, that it was a bit harsh being suspended for not handing in the improvement list, take note - the coach and captain stated it was a number of incidents. As VC, Watto needs to be an example. For Johnson and Khawaja, they had the easiest bit of that homework. "How can you help the team? - I can play!" There's one of the three ways answered without thinking, and it would have shown enthusiasm as well. Patto probably had the hardest task as there's not a lot more he could do to improve. That said, they should all have put the effort into it - after all, this is their job, and if any of us said to the boss when a task was set "Nah, didn't do that." we'd be in for discipline, so why not the cricketers also?

  • Yuji9 on March 11, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    Don't you cricket fans understand that by the time your game is at an international level you do not need a coach? Batsmen have personal mentors usually going back to childhood and bowlers can use some strength and conditioning and also capable trainers but the idea that the CRICKET COACH is somehow a God or even a remotely useful aspect of a Test series has gone on long enough - Tell me cricket fans who COACHED the mighty West Indies teams of the 80s? That's right you don't remember do you!!!! That's because back then real cricketers were their own masters and they played like that! Bob Simpson started all this when he treated the Aussie teams of the 80's like school children but at least he was an ex Australian Test player. Tell me fans who Gavin Dovey is and why he is selecting Australian teams? This is where it has reached and this is bureaucracy gone mad! CA has imploded by giving Arthur this power and true to Arthur's nature this is the predictable result.

  • on March 11, 2013, 22:32 GMT

    Back in the day player probably weren't required to write essays or make presentations. That being said if you messed around Alan Border or Bob Simpson you could kiss your test career goodbye. Same goes with Clarke and Arthur. Do what they say or refuse and see where it gets you.

  • MinusZero on March 11, 2013, 22:24 GMT

    I think the first thing to change is that the Coach and Captain should not be selectors. There is too much bias in selections. Why else would they have persisted with Watson for so long with his average performances

  • Tamilpower on March 11, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    Clarke is a fantastic player but his captaincy and Arthur's coaching will be the benchmark moment in the demise of Aussie cricket!

  • on March 11, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    To be honest I feel Watson deserves this the most. He keeps handing in below par test performances and, as the vice capatin, he couldnt think of 3 possible improvements? come on!! At least it means he'll spend time with his wife...

    The other three players all had there reasons not to I'm sure, I know as pattinson I would feel I had done ll I could and as Johnson and Khawaja I would be asking why I wasn't picked for the first 2 tests, but on the other hand the team needs help and if you aren't a team player you shouldn't be playing test cricket

  • on March 11, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    Clarke, Aurther and CA does not understand leadership nor how to lead. You cannot motivate with the stick. Also good leaders take the blame for the teams failure and give credit to the team for a win. Clarke , and Arthur, like Ottis Gibson from the West Indies, blames the players. Lastly, no individual goes out there and says to themself that"today I want to do really bad". And when he does not perform, he does not sit around and think, "man, next time I hope I dod just as bad". After any failure, every cricketer goes into the dressing room and beats himself up. So for Clarke and Arthur to say they did not do any reflection is troubling. The fact that they did not get responses from four players suggests to me that the instructions were not clear enough. Johnson, and company especially Watson may never comeback to Australia national team. True leaders turn ordinary people into extraordinary performmers.

  • on March 11, 2013, 22:16 GMT

    I respect what they were trying to do. Show that everyone gives a 100 percent in order to make Australia win, or else there will be consequences. But by sacking four of your top cricketers, you pretty much guarantee your defeat in the third test too. How does that serve your purpose. Surely there must be other ways you could have sent that message. A hefty fine, or anything short of creating a rebellion in the team, and forcing your top player in Watson to consider his test future. What a waste.

  • Chris_P on March 11, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    @landl47. Again well stated. I see posters going on about these guys not filling in forms when Clarke had already stated about "continued failure to meet standards". For those who are not quick in thinking this simply means there have been other incidents where these players have breached expectations. This simply have not been let known to the public, so please, some of your posters out there, try for once to engage your brain into gear & give it some thought. Whenever this great game of ours is not bigger than the individual, then I'll give up supporting & playing it.

  • SyBorgg71 on March 11, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    Sounds to me that Cricket Australia Management and Coaching Staff have run out of ideas. Why, in the first place, are they asking the players for ideas on how to improve? Isn't it their job to help players improve? Sounds like Cricket Australia is going down the gurgler. Can't say that I feel sorry for them. Karma is a great thing and maybe it's the years of arrogance that has turned around on them. For so long they had their heads in the clouds that they have forgotten what got them to the top in the fist place.

  • Rabbito on March 11, 2013, 21:55 GMT

    @pat_one_back - Sorry i don't agree with you there, you don't just pick your best players, you pick your best team, a champion team will always beat a team of champions...

  • Pacelover on March 11, 2013, 21:51 GMT

    My initial reaction was that the axing of those players was a huge overreaction based on Australias obsession with team bonding (like the fact that everybody has to sing the team song after a win.)

    However the team is struggling and everybody has been asked to chip in with ideas, hardly the most difficult task in the world and these for simply couldn't be bothered. When a team is re-building the last thing it needs is to lumber itself with players not willing to commit 100 percent.

    So this was a brave call and sends out a very strong message to newer players. The one thing missing from Clarkes captaincy has probably been discipline and that now looks to be changing.

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:49 GMT

    Naughty boys didn't do their homework,stood down. How pathetic

  • cricpolitics on March 11, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    There is always the other side of the coin which in this case telling me that there must be issues in the current management as well otherwise why would these professional players who have been playing for Australia in one form or the other for so long would just all of a sudden ignore the management? These are all signs of a weak management looking for scapegoats under pressure. Don't forget the true measure of anyone's mental comes out when things are not going right.

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:32 GMT

    Australia's Autocratic coach. Great. Bring on totalitarianism. What a joke. This was overly punitive.

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:26 GMT

    Precisely what Mickey arthur did with South Africa when they were ordinary

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:25 GMT

    Cricket is a sport. The game is not about administrators. What the game is mostly about is fans. It's the cricket fans around the world and around our country that support the game financially. Yesterday, the game became bigger than the fans. It's been on the cusp for years, but the nonsense of penalising guys for not handing in their homework is ridiculous. Yes, M Clarke (captain of Cricket Australia... not captain of players) says there are many reasons. But the punishment was meted out for one reason, so who cares about all those other incidents. As if it were just those four. When a corporation is adrift, you look to the management. Clarke and Arthur are weak. Their position is to defend and build the team. Clearly, they are not up to the job.

  • 98-10_157-0 on March 11, 2013, 21:23 GMT

    I have always wondered why this sort of thing doesn't happen more often when foreign coaches are appointed. Mickey Arthur is doing a marvellous job as coach of the Australian team ..... from a South African point of view. Keep up the good work, Mickey!!

  • bobmartin on March 11, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    I think all those supporting the idea of filling in tick boxes or writing critiques or whatever those players were being asked to do are missing the point. Even in the Armed Forces you are permitted to refuse to obey an unreasonable order. Whatever conclusions the players may have reached are all well and good sat in the confort of an air-conditioned hotel some time after the match. That doesn't mean to say you can achieve it in the heat of battle. If those players thought that they had performed to their ability (or at the least the two who actually played), what more is there to say. Suppose one of them had written an honest appraisal and said, "we played our best but were beaten by a better team" what would the management have said then. By asking them to do what they did, they were in fact questioning the players' commitment. No wonder they got upset. Or is this the management's way of covering their backs because they selected a sub-standard squad for this series

  • Wefinishthis on March 11, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    Clarke may be great on the field, but not off it. Who is he kidding? Of course it shows a lack of respect for the coach, why would anyone respect a coach who makes poor selection decisions and then treats them like this? Asking a sportsman to do really pointless stuff like this? The biggest thing a sportsman can have is confidence in themselves, followed by confidence in their teammates/management. That's what leads to superior performances on the field and the team management showing their lack of knowledge and forcing mundane, irrelevant tasks on them like this is going to destroy that confidence. If Clarke says it's an isolated incident, why doesn't he tell us the rest of the story? Oh that's right, it's probably really minor stuff. This 'team culture' thing is not what got us to no.1 before. Good selection policies, especially in the bowling is what got us, England and now SA to no.1. A good leader inspires, not forces. Micky Arthur has lost the team's confidence, he has to go.

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    I guess Arthur is doing everything possible to keep this Australian side frail, Instead of talking to his players one on one trying to guide them to success, Barking orders finding any excuss to cull Players, Not the Greatest way of trying to build Team Spirit, So whats left for this tour? well next game will be lost, without Pattinson best bowler,or Johnson who can make things happen. Siddle and Starc have been poor so guess For first I can remember Australia might field 5 Spinners!! Sorry but Arthur has shown no decent results and lacks coaching fines, Alarm bells should of been Ringing when Australia lost a test Series to New Zealand at home!!!

  • on March 11, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    As a pom, naturally we love all this uncertainty, but i think you have to hand it to Michael Clarke and Mickey Arthur, i think AB would have done the same. Khawaja needs educating, Johnson, Watson and Pattinson should have no excuses though and Pup has shown he has some stones, it's easy to ignore such indescretions within a team. But in a developing group that has hit a new nadir, it is now time for them to collectively address their shortcomings, in a couple of years time Clarke will have a group of players who will run through walls for him. Just after the Ashes......

  • VivGilchrist on March 11, 2013, 21:02 GMT

    What did you want them to write? - "Drop Hughes, fly OKeefe over, and replace you Mickey as coach with Boof"?

  • khalidSami on March 11, 2013, 21:00 GMT

    If Mickey and Michael wanted filled forms and notes about players performance they should have brought clerks and coaches for that jobs. Cricketers are spoken to in the huddle and team meetings where they provide opinions and tactics. Notes and Observations should come from the dozen coaches Team Australia employs and filled forms on health and fitness should come from the dozen Psysio's and Masseuse / clerks they employ.

    Finally, I like Michael Clarke he should be more a team player and less of a management person. Team Australia's decision to make the captain a selector needs to be reiewed as this has taken him away from his team.

  • on March 11, 2013, 20:56 GMT

    BRAVO CLARKE ! BRAVO ARTHUR ! After TWO disastrous, lacklustre, lack-guts performances, drastic action had to be taken. I would call it courageous. We are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes and there must have been several unwelcome occurrences from the four players which added weight to Clarke's and Arthur's conviction that very strong action was needed to shake this team back to life and inject true Aussie spunk into them. NO ONE PLAYER IS GREATER THAN THE GAME or his country that he represents. This team has been a shadow of Aussie teams for the past 25 years. Get to work, Mates.

  • on March 11, 2013, 20:55 GMT

    The only way the Aussies had a chance to comeback by having match winners like Watson and Pattinson in the team. there should be balance to descipline, standards and faith in players. Sometimes the players should be given a buffer. Overall not a good decision. Should have been handled properly .. A shame for australian adminstration.

  • on March 11, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    michael clarke leads carries on the longstanding tradition of australian teams thinking they are better than the rest. The real issue is too high of a self evaluation. The team is mediocre and is giving mediocre performances. Just becoz WI were kings in the 70's does not mean they were going to be GODS for ever. So stands for every other team. Clarke and co. should take their downfall with humility rather than being babies. And for the thousandth time, Australia is just another team, NOT what Michael Clarke wants everyone to think it is.

  • mcj.cricinfo on March 11, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    The punishment doesn't fit the crime. Yes, players have responsibilities, however dropping players for a minor misdemeanor is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

    This raises serious questions as to the credibility of Mickey Arthur as Australian coach. A world class coach would not let a situation such as this eventuate. Mickey Arthur has failed here, and is punishing these players and Australian cricket as a whole for his lack of man management skills.

  • KingOwl on March 11, 2013, 20:42 GMT

    Australia are toast! A team that was already mediocre is now even worse! What can you say. Having said that, I have respect for Clarke's attitude. But attitude alone does not take one far enough.

  • MagpieForever on March 11, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    Good for all if Watson leaves Test cricket for now at least. Never a team man, seems to be always sniping and using media for self interest. Ego can be good (eg one dayers) but not so good on a tough tour. Tough tour this and would be ideal setting for those naturally inclined to destabilising. Good for coach to try to get players to ask themselves tough questions when things not going well. Good for Watto to go home hope enjoy time with wife and new baby.

  • smudgeon on March 11, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    Honestly guys, this is basic job stuff: you don't perform, and you're expected to account for your underperformance in some way. Your boss asks you to think of three things - ONLY THREE - ways you, and the team, can improve. You discuss this with your boss. You look at a way to lift that performance. This is NOT unusual. You know, I am reminded of the fact that people like Merv Hughes and David Boon had a job away from cricket. One wonders whether the current generation of cricketers could benefit from having a bit of experience in that respect. Scoff if you like, but the kids who used to work part-time jobs from 15 have a better work ethic than the ones who get constantly patted on the head and told to go away and practice the clarinet in whatever way they see fit, and if they continue to suck at playing the clarinet, "it's okay, just have a biscuit darling". PFFFFFT. If you can't commit to a bit of basic performance development with your boss, you are going to struggle.

  • Glenn10 on March 11, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    Maybe Warnie was right - Its time to appoint Stephen Fleming as Coach, although I don't think he could work with Clarke. This is pathetic. Team politics at their worst. Clarke should work on his man Management skills as this is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. If they (the players) have no respect for the Coach and Captain, which now appears certain, the team will not function. Full stop. Team spirit has just gone from low to zero. Joseph Langford comments are a bit extreme about the players lack of talent, but sums up the reports very nicely. Bring in Fleming and replace Clarke as captain with Bailey, who should be in the team anyway. Clarke is a fantastic batsman, but thats it. He's an awful leader of men.

  • pat_one_back on March 11, 2013, 20:35 GMT

    This is a highly regarded Test contest not a meaningless ODI series, if everyone's so passionate about team performance then pick the best team! Aust have now lost the series 2-0, the remaining 2 should be downgraded to tour matches, India vs Aust Management 11.

  • AvidCricFan on March 11, 2013, 20:35 GMT

    First of all, I commend the demand for discipline from players by the team management. The team needs to be committed to produce right results and be attentive to what has been asked by the coaching/management team. The coach wanted each player to do little introspection. It was a simple request as Clarke stated. I hope the Indian coaching staff is applying the same rigor to the Indian players. Looking at how the Indian players are pampered by the media and commercial aspects of the game, most the player may flunk the standards set by Aussies.

  • waughjunior on March 11, 2013, 20:34 GMT

    James Anderson should of hit Clarke harder with that cricket pad in the dressing sheds after the Adelaide test. It might of knocked a bit sense into him. Clarke as captain is embarrassing enough, but these types of childish decisions are making us the laughing stocks of world cricket.

  • QingdaoXI on March 11, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    CA, time to built new team, after replacing Clarke and Arthur once this tour is over, appoint a young captain like SA appointed Smith some 10 years back. Play Clarke only as a batsmen if he leads the team further and have same results in Ashes, he will also destroy the carriers of youngsters in just few matches. Appoint S.Smith as a captain. Start from scratch.

  • Patchmaster on March 11, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    @ Randy Oz. The Aussies Ashes preparation seems to be going wonderfully.

  • Rexton87 on March 11, 2013, 20:28 GMT

    Its only a game and should be seen in context. Cricket managment especially from Australia and England take themselves too seriously and beleive thhier corporate planning, work ethics and psychological tactics bring them success.If two teams work extremly hard, train day and night and have robotic players who follow every directive with overzeal, at a cricket match one will still loose. It is only a game, to chastise and humiliate professional cricketers and colleagues like this in public will backfire on the managment pretty soon.

  • Aussiesfalling on March 11, 2013, 20:28 GMT

    For a greater grip on reality, Cricket Australia should replace Arthur & Clarke with Arthur C. Clarke.

  • Bilali73 on March 11, 2013, 20:22 GMT

    As per SMH "Head coach Mickey Arthur said the quartet had failed to comply with requests to deliver a presentation, by email or in person, on what they bring to the team in the wake of last week's heavy defeat in Hyderabad".

    As there are no words to justify why Phil Hughes is in the team I'm assuming he must have put together a very persuasive interpretive dance.

  • smacca on March 11, 2013, 20:20 GMT

    Anyone here who thinks they are qualified to criticise the management must be a recently retired test cricketer. Sport is a science now, not a game you take part in every now and then. Rajmani says it should be sorted out 'eye to eye'. How do you know that hadn't already taken place? He talks about 'close relationship' but a captain needs to keep players at arm's length to avoid mateyness and a dissolving of respect.

    Look at the performances of all four in the last 18 months and they don't need to fill in a 3 line presentation because they forgot or couldn't be bothered? There's a few of you need to think a bit harder.

  • 200ondebut on March 11, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    Clarke does not come across as a leader of men - and it seems like this episode shows that his team think the same. If he was a true leader then his team would do this without question - the fact that four chose not to shows the respect in which he is held.

  • GrindAR on March 11, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    @Shaun Hick: Well said, same goes to Johnson.

  • GrindAR on March 11, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    Oh clarke... probably you should think of resigning as your own leadership decisions are well below the standards of your own CA terms. You send out the players who performed well and who did not play. Almost same team thrashed India in your back yard worst than this. Do you expect to repeat the same on a foreign soil. Sorry dude, we dont prepare strictly aussie friendly pitches here. Other than Adelaide (before the last match), none of the pitches in Aus are to international standards, they are tailor made to suit Aussie only team. So, you cannot cry on the pitches now, so you cry on your own players... shame on you dude...

  • Shan156 on March 11, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    Nonsense from Clarke and Arthur. They have weakened an already weak team in India and have done nothing to boost the morale of the team ahead of the all important Ashes. Indian team was already on their way to an unprecedented 4-0 series victory. This action has only eased their task. Bad days ahead for Australian cricket.

  • bobmartin on March 11, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    If, as lots of people keep saying, there is far more to this incident than has been made public, surely the best thing would be for the management to came out and tell everybody. At least that would end all the speculation and clear the air. As it is at the moment, the management appear to most people to be taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut and quite frankly have made themselves look a bit stupid with all this management-speak. An old hand told me when I got promoted to management level " The nameplate on your door may say manager, but it's what you do that makes you one"

  • on March 11, 2013, 20:01 GMT

    So what happened when Faulkner swore in the face of Gayle, an incident that was captured on National Television and replayed several times?? Small fine??

    So what happened when Maxwell yelled abuse at SL Players, an incident that was captured on National Television and replayed several times?? Nothing??

    Australia has a Captain that can't Captain, a Coach that can't Coach and, it appears to me, a Selection Panel that are forced to select from a group of substandard players that include a keeper who can't keep, bowlers who can't bowl and batsmen who simply cannot handle the conditions.

    What did you expect this group to write??

    Pattinson - I will bowl faster, I will bowl harder and, when I get 2-wickets in 3-overs, maybe Clarke should keep me on.

    Johnson - I can bat, I can bowl, I can field!!

    Khawaja - Pick me!! Pick me!! PLEEEASE pick me!!

    This is politics, and anyone who thinks that MA did this without MJC's OK is kidding themselves.

  • No_1_again on March 11, 2013, 20:00 GMT

    Yesterday I lost my trust with CA and it's staff (coach and selectors). Today I lost trust with Australian captain. Jobs/places for mates only. Cricket Australia & Clarke thanks for making me to loose interest in cricket. When Warne & Waugh gave weather report did CA suspend them?

  • wix99 on March 11, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    I'm curious about whether the fact that Brad Haddin was flying into India just as Shane Watson was flying out was a coincidence or part of a plan....

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:53 GMT

    Bigger picture??? The only bigger picture I see is elite cricketers being treated like children (which has been going on for a while now). Australia is the laughing stock of the cricket world, but not for the reasons you might think! Getting very sick of the platitudes Michael Clarke has been mouthing and his very obvious transition to "company man" is sickening. What about the selectors doing their homework? Oh, thats right, they didn't get any because they'd already failed!! No doubt the players picked for the third and fourth Tests will give their all, but really, how much happier can we make the Indians?

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    sometimes I wonder if cricket is still a game. filling out forms?

  • Nutcutlet on March 11, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    What we have here, in essence, is losing team syndrome. Beaten in two Tests with two to go, it's not just the fact of the defeats, it is the manner of them. I would term them absolute routs. They are the hammer blows that have led to the disintegration (really the best word) of the Australian touring party. Whatever Clarke & Arthur had asked the team members to do, it would have probably been seen as provocative, been laughed at or scorned/disregarded. In other words, this fall out needs to be set in context. It could be argued that the last thing players would want to do is pick over the bones after Hyderabad & perhaps it was bad psychology to ask the players to review failure. Players are not always the best analysts of their game anyway, that's surely what the coaching & backroom staff should be focussing on, in conference with the capt. It is their brief, not the players. Players probably respond better to being told what is required of them re: tweaking of technique, nothing more.

  • ram4crictheory on March 11, 2013, 19:40 GMT

    Even if a player has not performed well in one entire series, selectors/management/coach/captain/etc still might give a chance to the player hoping he will come good in the next series at the most with a warning that this will be your last chance How far is this decision acceptable that a player is asked to submit a report of what he thinks in two days, which may also be a casual/general assignment and being sacked on the third day for not doing it When a person is in trouble/depression, his mind stops working properly and the decisions taken at such point are usually blunders. I can only suggest Clarke/Arthur to first console themselves and stay away from such horrible ideas/thoughts, these may have severe adverse effects on the team and themselves Wish they come out of this soon and provide us some good cricket

  • AKS286 on March 11, 2013, 19:37 GMT

    OK nothing new in cricket we saw recently--symonds, Gayle issue, KP issue. But Those matters are serious enough. here discipline is right no question Pal but don't you think that Punishment is too harsh for a simple issue. J.Anderson is a good player in the field & off the field.

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    What is going on in CA? If Watson decide to quit test cricket, it will be hat trick lose for CA under the able leadership of Mr. Clarke. 1. Simon Katich, look at his statistics when his contract got turned down, the only problem he got was he had a dressing room fight with Mr. Clarke. 2. Andrew symonds, well he was one of the best talent, great batsman who can dismantle any bowling attack, great fielder who never miss the stumps, and a useful bowler 3. Shane Watson, well he is simple one of best australia posses now. These three people had lot of cricket left with them. Looks like autocrats are vying hard to find faults in all good players and fill up the team with bunch of useless ones.

  • ram4crictheory on March 11, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    @daniel king according to you "the coach and the captain set the rules and if you simply can't be bothered to follow them then you don't play. It's that simple." If that is true after the series if team doesn't do well, the same captain and coach should axe themselves for either not setting proper rules or not implementing the rules properly instead of searching reasons for defeat, which I feel is ridiculous.

    @landl47 are u really convinced with clarke's statement that this is not the only issue, if so don't you feel that he should have elaborated other incidents too as Clarke and Arthur wanted this to be dealt publicly so that the players will be careful in the future.

  • Someguy on March 11, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    @Daniel King - One of the very, very few comments I have seen on multiple websites by someone who actually gets it.

    This is not about "not doing their homework". It is about attitude. Out of a squad of 17, only 4 felt that they were above doing the task assigned to them, and were justly punished. There is clearly underlying issues here. This was an attitude adjustment that had to happen.

    Personally, I am amazed that Khawaja and Johnson weren't bursting at the seams to put their cases forward and push for a spot in the next test.

    Watson is the vice captain and should have been leading by example.

    Pattinson has been one of very few people to actually perform this series and should have been able to answer these questions easily.

    They all got what they deserved. Hopefully this will make them realise that they don't have a god given right to play. They have to earn it, and team work is part of that.

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    This is not something new to Australian Cricket Team. We got a great line of people who quit cricket just like that. Andrew Symonds, Simon Katich, now Shane Watson. Well I feel CA has chosen the wrong guy or given lot of powers to the wrong guy. Obviously Clarke is again the focus point now. We have seen Simon Katich got to quit or been thrown away when he was in the top of his form. Symonds also was in good shape, Watson too is important for the CA. The authoritarian and egoistic style is not the solution for the problem. One should be able to sit, discuss and sort out things, or else we will see a huge outflow of talented players in Australia. Reference link is been added.http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/538293.html

  • AK47_pk on March 11, 2013, 19:16 GMT

    How can u ask jhonson nd khawaja to assess how they are going to improve their game when they havnt played a sigle game so far?

  • uvasStraightDrive on March 11, 2013, 19:16 GMT

    Its captain's team, Clarke sets standard really high which lets the team lift themselves, which is good. That being said..Players like Watson comes once in a decade, after Imran , Botham, Kapil , Hadlee and Kallis; Watson has seem to be the only player who could have registered in that "league of extraordinary players". First CA crippled him by saying you can not bowl; let him make the call whether he can bowl or not, breaking him down to fifty percent of what he is; then expect him to win you matches, you could on Watson's face he is not feeling hundred percent of himself when he is not allowed to contribute hundred percent. If you are not allowed to put your heart, soul and your body behind the wining for your country, what else you expect him to do. IF every team starts conserving players because cricket board thinks that way; players have no chance to put their bodies behind the wins for their country.This is just a sad day for cricket.

  • Lmaotsetung on March 11, 2013, 19:08 GMT

    Again most people have missed the point which Daniel King has explained so eloquently in his comments. Just like KP's axing, it wasn't about one "texting" incident. It was a cumulation of things during the summer and I believe this Oz episode is similar along the lines. Leave the "homework" jokes to the comedians for their late night show materials, it's not just about that like Clarke said. Read or guess all you want about the motives but in the long run CA will be better off just like the ECB is better off for drawing a line in the sand regarding the KP's saga.

  • candyfloss on March 11, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    Seems to me they are out on a witch hunt.What an absolute mess and at a time when the team needs to stick together.As an Indian fan you'd think one would love it but at this stage i seriously pity the australian fans.We got thrashed in Australia too but we just put our heads down and headed back home instead of being crazy brave and phoney tough and becoming the laughing stock in the process.

  • on March 11, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    It's easy to give Arthur the blame. He's not Australian and Australia are losing.

    Don't forget that his captain is with him on this one!

    I think it's a courageous decision - these 2 are looking ahead to the Ashes. They are however being criticised for putting the team first. They are prepared to get criticised for the good of the team.

    I see this as a huge opportunity for Australia. I just hope the players and past players are grown up enough to understand that ALL the players in the team need to come down to earth and start working together as a team.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    "Usman you're in the ODI team!" After one game. "Usman you're no longer in the ODI team!" "Usman we're sending you to India early to prepare for the test series." After coach arrives in India. "Usman we're not picking you to play in India." No wonder he didn't do the homework, was probably waiting for the next email from Mickey telling him not to do it.

  • Cobra0077 on March 11, 2013, 18:53 GMT

    @Featured comment thumbs down. It is well known to extract the best from anyone in sports or work that the upper management has to keep them happy yet be strict when company policies are not followed. In this case the rules made by Mickey Arthur were/ are not CA's rules for major disciplinary like this. Having said that would it have not been better for a coach or captain to have individual chat with each player to see how they could do better or what changes need to be done. It appears that the Head coach did not do his job, but, instead wanted the players to do his job for him. Athough its not PC to point out the main reason that test cricket is losing its spark & that is the PITCHES. It appears that pitches are prepared not for the better of the sport but for the better of the home team and recently that has gone to an extreme level and ICC does not have the courage to do anything about that, its almost equivalent like having the Olympics in a swamp area where a local gets a gold.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    Over the years the role of coach has developed into something unrecognisable from that occupied by Bob Simpson. Now Mickey Arthur's role has developed into something more important than that of the players. I can't accept that this is an accurate reflection of modern test cricket - its all about the team on the ground beating its opponents (same as always)

    Unsure what Johnson and Khawaja could have contributed to the discussion of the team's performance - perhaps "I've not been part of the twelve but my support in the dressing room can be improved in the following areas..." James Pattinson could have said "If everyone performed at my level, we would be doing a lot better"

    I support the stand of Shane Watson - its not worth his time to put up with the nonsense being put up by Mickey Arthur and cronies. Unfortunately, it will be Australian cricket that is the loser - hard to see how Australia can win with the current coach at the helm.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:48 GMT

    @ Vinmu. It's a good question but I did feel the same actually and most England fans I know did too. No individual is bigger than the team, even if he's your star player.

  • Rolling_in_The_Deep on March 11, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    Panic is in the Australian Camp.. Clarke is looking like Kim Hughes lately..Wonder if the players were given a reminder about this feedback before axing..

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:41 GMT

    its absolutely bad management and bad leadership. The problems has to be sorted out in direct communication ( eye to eye). I think clarke is writing a new historyi of Australian Cricket. Its understandable that there is pressure and stres especially in the indian tour. A Tthis juncture, close relationship with all the team members will build will do good thing to the team. LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING THERE IN THE AUSTRALIAN CRICKET.

  • thekaz on March 11, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    Completely agree with @Daniel King. If you cant even be bothered to look and constructively criticize your own and the teams performance off the field, especially when you've just been hammered twice, how can you expect to do it on the field in the heat of the moment, when it matters. This is about not being able to follow simple instructions by your captain and coach. Fully support Clarke and Arthur.

    Although, they must try their utmost to not let Shane Watson retire, even though he hasn't contributed in the first two tests, he is probably Australia's second best batsman, and if fit he can perform the Kallis role with the ball. Watson's test retirement would be a big loss for Australia

  • gajanan_londhe on March 11, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    before these two test match, what was differnce between india and Aus. Aus had better situation than india. what put aus in this situation? just two thing . 1> dhoni's inning and 2> vijay-pujara's partnership. as indis's point of view these series will wash out bad memories of their last one and half year test performance. as Aus point of view , they have tough time, and from they need to try do beter and try to draw series, atlest increase their peformance. all the best for both team.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    Australia are worse than the West Indies and New Zealand at the moment. Ok they took a leaf out of England's book and thrashed an Indian team in transition 4-0, but that team included Ponting and Hussey who virtually carried them. I expect India to whitewash this Australian team on any surface and even if the matches were played on the moon.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    Then where the Clarke sees his arrogant declaration for mere 237 runs in the first innings in the second test, not giving Watson bowling in tough situations, excluding their regular spinner from past 12 months based on one match. You can't get respect from the players this way. Captaincy requires control over aggression, emotion and many more things, he is forgetting that it is not only his team, team is made by all the members, Captain also needs to respect his players to an extent.

  • Arrow011 on March 11, 2013, 18:33 GMT

    Will this odd decision of the captain & Mickey help Australian batsmen play spin better or will the Australian spinners bowl like Murlitharan all of a sudden to win the next 2 tests? If the answer is No, then why not lose with Watson & Pattinson?

  • Cricket316 on March 11, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    Shocking stuff, may be thats an Understatement. Seems like, its all about being a "Clarke-Boy" or "Not a Clarke Boy".Too Extreme of a move in this situation. This might just ruin Watto's Test Career. With all the Injuries he's had and being In-Out of the team, I think he has done well in his Career. Watson is an Asset to the any Team.He might have been used well used if he was allowed to open the innings and allowed to Bowl. Axing Patto (Your best bowler). Khwaja n Johnson didnt even get to play and were unceremoniously send off. That is so disheartened for a Player, irrespective of a Team or Sports. Pattinson n Johnson would have been a good combo on Mohali Pitch. Gotta feel bad for all 4 of them. They do not fit in the category of 'Clarke boys'. While Non performing and Undeserving players, The "Clarke Boys" like Cowan,who was Edgy in all the Innings, Maxwell(From "Big Show" to "The No Show" in Test) and Hughes,well he's like a freebie for the Bowlers

  • Vinmu on March 11, 2013, 18:31 GMT

    @daniel King , one question Did you feel the same when KP was out of the team too.Generally when someone elses body is aching its easy to suggest remedies.I think Clarke acted to show his supremacy, would have dared to see him do this with other players around. i guess it is a show of who the leader is and that come what may he will stick to his rules (right or wrong).Different captains use different yardsticks to measure efficiency, this guy used a 2cm ruler..

  • HJafar on March 11, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    I am utterly devasted by this high handedness - discipline is fine but to axe players for not doing that write up or presentation is excessive. Brainstorming is one thing but making it mandatory for someone to articulate those ideas in written form is not something that comes easily to everyone. Did the coach and the captain run out of ideas themselves? Shouldn't the coach and captain be sitting down with the vice captain and doing a brainstroming session themselves before throwing that responsibility on others? Poor Khwaja - he ddn't even play a test - what was he supposed to improve upon? There is more than meets the eye.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    Victory has many fathers. Defeat is an orphan.

  • AKS286 on March 11, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    This statement shows about Clarke's Senior Axing Policy. WHY all senior players were retired during Clarke's regime. Punter is going to retire after Ashes'13 but before why ? why Senior players are not selected like MJ, Hauritz, Haddin, Marsh, Paine? Arthur & Clarke always advocating & backing non- performers like lyon, Wade, cowan, warner. When Clarke's takes the captaincy from ponting He gave the statement I WANT RESPECT AND I DESERVE TO BE CAPTAIN (with egos)Simple reason senior players don't respect Clarke so they have been axed. When Lyon debuted he said- "PUP is the better captain, He knows how to use spin. Earlier WARNE is the captain of himself".

  • Ravishankara on March 11, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    Unprecedented. Are Australians over-reacting. India lost even more badly.

  • on March 11, 2013, 18:11 GMT

    For all Clarke's nonsense.. "We can't accept mediocrity here. This is the Australian cricket team, blah blah blah." what he and the rest of management have done to Australian cricket far outweighs anything the players may or may not have done because Australian cricket is now the laughing stock of the rest of the world.

  • fah4 on March 11, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    Now what for the Ashes.They didn't have a settle team and this comes.3rd test will be played by the players available and changes in 4th test,when they start Ashes they will be still wondering what will be the right combination.These 2 test are actually good time for Australia to settle their batting order but couldn't do it. To say the least its good for India,guys be ready for a clean sweep...

  • NikhilNair on March 11, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    Wow! Only if such discipline was brought in Indian sports, we would be flying high! Good luck to Australia and India. I hope to see great performances for the rest of the series from both sides.

  • AKS286 on March 11, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    This harsh punishment broke the discipline standards specially with V.Captain & Senior M, Johnson. So, Arhthur agreement must be removed. and after that the statement of M.Clarke in the media also beyond discipline standards so Clarke must be remove from captaincy.

  • ram4crictheory on March 11, 2013, 18:01 GMT

    What I understood from the explanation given by Clarke to axe four players is that they are trying to be as tough as possible to ensure better performance in the next two matches coming up against India. Now my question is how is this decision going to get him the desired result of better performance in the next match. Now are Clarke and Arthur going to resign for dampening Australia's chances of competing in the next match if they lose. If they are going to do this I will really admire the standards they are setting up and if not I have to understand that these people are misusing the powers given to them. It is the job of COACH to identify the mistakes of his players and correcting them instead of asking players to find out their mistakes and corrective measures. If players can do that why the hell in the world do they need a coach. I am desperate to see what action coach and captain will take on themselves for team's failure after the next test match.

  • B.Moizuddin.Gouhar on March 11, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    its good to see some sensible comments saying team first then individual - no one is bigger than game and discipline.. all our greats dravid, vvs, kumble, SRT, Kapil, Azhar and the list goes on and on were very good and well deciplined sportsmen. Its for sure any team any sport cannot function properly without discipline - and every sport in the world have a tolerance level and when its beyond tolerance and crosses the boundary the outcome with be like what aussie have done. How i wish to see the same of discipline in sub-continent teams...

  • whippingBails on March 11, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    Imagine asking Jeff Thompson, Dennis Lilllee, Chappell bros, Merv Hughes, MacGrath, Hayden and Warne to make presentations?? whoa that would have been some sight..Losers are the Mohali fans..we would have loved to see what Pattinson could have done in Mohali. Looks like there are bigger issues, something truly rotten in the state of Aussie Cricket. Sad to see this from an Indian fan.

  • Metro-ant on March 11, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    Good on Australian management for taking such a bold move. It just goes to show the differences in culture between teams like Sri Lanka and India to this team in terms of defeat. I wonder what bold move Sri Lanka made after losing inside three days at the MCG. A few months later they were whinging about their pay. Clarke & Arthur are wise in knowing that when you're failing, you need to go back to basics whether you like it or not. Where they have started is communication between player and coaching staff. If you can't even comply with that after losing 2 test matches in a row, what is your excuse?

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    So... how could Khwaja and Johnson present targets, when they haven't played? Moronic, Mickey Arthur needs to go.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    they have 13 players..now that they have found 13*3=39 ways to get better,lets see how aussies do in the next 2 tests..i tht it happens only in india..cook must be laughing at his luck...!!!

  • warneneverchuck on March 11, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    @bouncedown. AUS would have lost even badly if ponting was captain. At least Clark is batting far better than ponting could dream of in India. Mind u he was ordinary player when all greats retired and a great player when AUS had likes of warne Macbeth Hayden gilly etc

  • kuttyrsk on March 11, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    Hi Why Johnson was not selected for first two matches Bcos he was not making presentation or bcos he is in prime form.dropping him for third test. discipline is important more in ground than off ground. Captain not ready to go up the order in spite of good form.bad choice of people,going to mohali with out johnson and Pattison is like they can go to delhi and say they forefeit match in mohali.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    When Aussies were winning and were the top teams there weren't controversies, but when team is losing like other Asian teams, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka, then controversies engulf them. This has been a very un-Aussies stuff. But I think Aussies should also not allow its cricket be preyed by team politics and other nonsensical stuff. I think it is the real collapse of Australian cricket. It's a real challenge! I hope things return to normalcy else a great cricketing nation can be at risk of losing its charm and vigor on the field.

  • British_North_America on March 11, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Clarke cannot blame his mates this way.First Katich and now others, he will destroy Aussie cricket.

  • sents2013 on March 11, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    This is a very good and very brave decision. It seems the future of Australia is in good hands. Team standard and discipline are more important than anything else. Thats how serious Australia are taking everything. India lost 3 series and they haven't taken half as seriously as the Australians. A great lesson for the Indians too.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Cricket Australia: asking everyone's opinion is not setting up standards. Then axing some good players is not taking a disciplinary action. It's not about players, it's about the selectors egoism. Selectors, instead of understanding what is needed, they screwed up further. Instead of taking responsibility for their own selection failure, they tried throwing blame at players. It's selectors responsibility to find reasons for failure not the players in the team. A lesson for all selectors to learn: it's your responsibility to come with solutions not the players. Definitely do not create more confusion. You are there to analyze the game not annihilate the game. Want my suggestion, Say sorry and call them back.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    LOL!!! Johnson & Khawaja who never played in this series wat report they gonna submit ... welcome to schoolboy cricket lol ..

  • B.Moizuddin.Gouhar on March 11, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Hi&Hello everyone-I can just say HATS-OFF to the Aussie management, I really liked the action taken by them. Since the team is not performing upto the expecations & during this struggling phase everyone should try to contribute & help the team to overcome. Being a VC of the team Watson should have been more responsible and helpful. I wounder why some comments asking when you are not playing how can they give feebbacks like MJ&UK. Im sorry to say to such comments they are just cricket fans and they dont know the basic ethics of cricket-beleive me feedback can be from anyone even a good tv followers can give feedback. Yes they are not in playing XI but they are part & parcel of the team from day one & they should know what are plus points & what are minus points & what will help team & whats hurting the team, if anyone being a member of the team dont know whats going around means they are just a tourist on expense of ACB. Everyone know Clarke is hardworking guy & he expeccts the same.

  • StarveTheLizard on March 11, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    Okay - I'm glad there was some explanation from management. This was one of a series of incidents. I think the example had to be made. Watson's reaction speaks volumes though. A vice-captain is supposed to lead by example. If his response is typical of the attitude in the team, then Australia are in Big Trouble.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on March 11, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    Clarke has ruined this team by acting as divider-in-chief. Now Australia don't stand a chance either in this series or in the back-to-back Ashes thanks to his damaging decision-making and poor leadership. Time for a different captain Australia.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    this is ridiculous..Aussies are in panic mode trying to find scapegoats well ahead of white wash, not a right state of mind.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    Strange things happen in stranger times. Now all IPL teams will fire aussie players and coaches. in their relieving order, the reason for sacking will be mentioned as : "You didn't write the essay that CA ordered you to write."

    Watch out the news space after aussies lose the next test. i m betting that it will read: "12 players axed for not eating their vegetables."

  • Dave_75 on March 11, 2013, 17:32 GMT

    I wonder if any one of those criticising Arthur and Clarke have actually played a sport at a high level. In an atmosphere where results were not so much expected, but demanded. Ian Chappel also thinks the punishment did not fit the crime, but a lot has changed in terms of professionalism since the tours he led in the 60's and 70's. Most disappointing is Watson, a guy who is supposed to lead by example. Not only has he not performed on the field, then not met his coaches off-field requirements. But then he decides to publicly insinuate that he may quit the Australian test team because he was disciplined!?!? By contrast, Clarke, who has scored runs in both matches, got his homework in on time. It may seem childish and petty to some, but until this team shows some maturity in performance, this is how it will (and should) be. Oh and for those who think Mickey Arthur will be, or should be, sacked because of this... no chance.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    Two basic principles of justice that apply in some life situations; 1.you should not be punished for an offence unless you were aware of the likely penalties 2. no collective punishments for individual offences. I have no idea if the players realised that failing to give their 3 points for improvement by Saturday could lead to such a sanction - though you would expect that they would not think of it as likely to draw the same penalties as a night out boozing before the match. Regarding my second point, there is a problem, as some of the players sanctioned are not the ones who have failed to obey orders before. Watson for example is being heavily punished "as an example to others" despite not having committed the previous infractions which have led to "a line in the sand" being drawn.

    Some people have called Arthur and Clarke as "the headmaster and the teacher" because of the "homework" issue. But the description is spot-on as regards their method of punishment too.

  • Cricket316 on March 11, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    Shocking stuff, may be thats an Understatement. Seems like, its all about being a "Clarke-Boy" or "Not a Clarke Boy".Too Extreme of a move in this situation. This might just ruin Watto's Test Career. With all the Injuries he's had and being In-Out of the team, I think he has done well in his Career. Watson is an Asset to the any Team.He might have been used well used if he was allowed to open the innings and allowed to Bowl. Axing Patto (Your best bowler). Khwaja n Johnson didnt even get to play and were unceremoniously send off. That is so disheartened for a Player, irrespective of a Team or Sports. Pattinson n Johnson would have been a good combo on Mohali Pitch. Gotta feel bad for all 4 of them. They do not fit in the category of 'Clarke boys'. While Non performing and Undeserving players, The "Clarke Boys" like Cowan,who was Edgy in all the Innings, Maxwell(From "Big Show" to "The No Show" in Test) and Hughes,well he's like a freebie for the Bowlers.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:22 GMT

    What is on display here is Michael Clarke's exceptional leadership qualities. He showed that with the ouster of Andrew Symonds a couple of years ago. He is uncompromising in setting the bar really high for Australian cricket. India will be a cricket superpower no matter which way you cut it and for Australia to compete it will take some very serious dedication as well as talent. Clarke has lined himself up for some serious on-field humiliations so that some serious triumphs can accrue.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    I said it as soon as Clarke was indoctrinated, biggest mistake ever for Australian captain, his ego will dominate proceesdings, and this is precisely what is now happening.

  • m0se on March 11, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    Warner and Watson should open. Clarke at No. 3. Why is Clarke so superstitious or stubborn to not go up the order? Why is Australia playing 4 openers and a single middle order batsmen? Wade and below are lower order. Clarke the batsman has done great but Clarke the captain has done horribly. The coach and captain should be fired after this homework debacle.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    Reminds me of England in the bad old days. By the way, Michael Clarke, Australia is not the only team in the world in which discipline and standards matter. There's a lot that comes with playing for England, South Africa, India and other major test teams. So don't go thinking that Australia is special in that regard.

  • myStraightTalk on March 11, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    I think its a good decision.. no one is bigger then the team. When they have rules for everyone then they should follow it. Professional will follow it. Hope Indian team have this high standard and follow things professionally.

  • Noboundary on March 11, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    They need a different coach. Arthur has already trashed their chances this series.

  • OupaJohn on March 11, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    Australian arrogance reveals itself once again! Clarke's humble evaluation: "Maybe I am biased [but] there is a big difference between this team and other cricket teams." Yes Michael, you are biased, and exhibiting the classic reaction of individuals and institutions in their weakest moments--attack somebody else to divert attention. Must one insult others to make oneself look good? England, South Africa, and other teams have not been without their controversies in the past, but they are not all inferior to Australia in taking their cricket and discipline seriously. And right now, who are the Australians to compare their commitment to the commitment of the South Africans? It is no wonder that so many cheer for any team that is playing against Oz.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    This is not what you want to happen ever as a team to you.Even in times of great distress, with internal rifts and divisions.You warn players for such breaches(one isn't even sure if the players were made aware of the seriousness of this exercise.one got to admit this is quite novel,and speaking for myself not in a good way.),or fine them,make them sweat out more than the others.The management aspect of this whole episode has been shoddy to say the least.Discipline is a fine thing,but god what a reaction!!!There's definitely a lot that needs fixing right now as far as relations between coach staff and players are concerned if you ask me. And to people who think this augurs well for the future of Aus cricket,you can't be more wrong.This sends more bad vibes and signals than good ones.For a unit that wants to be a paragon of professionalism,today wasn't a great day in office.Maybe they should do a presentation on that???What say Mickey???

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    "Now this might be it...Pattinson and Watson' s axing will sure be proved as the last nail in the coffin for them...But that surprised me how dictatorly that man Clarke is behaving he is making his count but as far as the team performance is concerned definitely it is under severe pressure. I must say Katich statement about him is must to be consisdered now!"

  • bnsameer on March 11, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    what a contrast to the series down under and ds one.aussie in all sorts of trouble................ pattinson out is a real blow on a seamer friendly mohali pitch as he is the only pacer with real impact.

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    Very gutsy move by the Australian Management....Of the 17 players, 13 players have obeyed the orders of the coach should also be considered. For maintaining discipline the task shouldn't need be that big.If u r a part of team u should be a team simple...

  • TaqiSharp on March 11, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    I see many people coming around the corners and commenting about exclusion of these four....it was to be happwned in this real world....u learn from your mistakes....if this time this would have taken as granted...might be it will hurt any other to australian board...sacking to them was exceptional....i salute you clarke for Such a brave decision and keeping mindset with coach ....couple of defeats cant judgw your limits...

  • on March 11, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    actually aus cricket would have been in much better health now if watson had been capt and clark was in the team only as a player. at this rate clark will have to turn up alone on the day of the match. no one will want to play under him.

  • bouncedout on March 11, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    How the mighty have fallen.

    Would never have happened if Ponting was still captain. They still wouldn't have beaten india though

  • LovedOne on March 11, 2013, 16:57 GMT

    so stop generalising. the intent was good but the act was carried out in a ridiculous childish manner.

    I ask u and ur foolish coach. how could u ask Pattinson to find ways on improving his performance when he is clearly doing more than was expected. It is not easy bowling on Indian pitches. Even Dale steyn would agree to it. I mean what replies were u expecting from him when he was supposed to give his 3 points. Also, would any of u have acted on those points. or was it just one of those good for nuthin mundane exercises. Had all the players given their replies and said that one of the things to be done ASAP was to sack the coach, would u have done it. Or if all of them had written , that the team needs a new captain , would u have stepped down . I wonder. Mebbe u r called Pup because u r one of those who is still very childish and not want to grow up. U can still make your team win if you keep your ego aside. hope this letter helps u . I luv ur battin but wanna see as a gud capt

  • GeorgeAndrews on March 11, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    Discipline and attitude have to taken care of by the management. No indiividual player is greater than the team. One should behave in the best interest of the team...Good warning for all cricket players across the glob..especially in the subcontinent..

  • RudyinCricinfo on March 11, 2013, 16:50 GMT

    I strongly accept what the CA did for the 4 irresponsible players.... if not taking any action on them then it will make other players also not to follow the decision... rules is meant to follow... if the vice captain itself is not following then who will.... Aussies again proved that they are good decision makers... some of the former players commenting it as a school boys stuff... they have to stand in the shoes of the Headcoach and the captain then only they know what stuffs is this...

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    Isn't it the coach's job to analyze what can be done better in the next test and what areas need improvement? I think this is an absolute travesty - I really hope Australia gets thrashed in the next two tests! #bringjohnbuchananback

  • LovedOne on March 11, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    MICHAEL CLARKE....... u r the captain of the team . Mebbe u r called PUP for a reason. It's time u grow up and handle the team better. Cricket Australia anyway is totally crazy in the last few years. There was a time when you had lots of talent and sacking a few players here and there did not make much of a difference . But now it does. First make the board and the selectors act right. It's your job to make a good team and not act like the high handed officials and administrators.

    If you want to have a winning team , then learn to give respect to players. Your team can't bat for nuts as of now. And even your superb performance is not enough. Could you please ask then as to why your board removed a successful batsman like SIMON KATICH from the team . He would have been an asset now and even for the coming few years.

    Also, if u r going to give home work etc... then stand up and be strict to those who deserve that reprimand . make your coach know this too. so stop generalising.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    If a coach doesn't know how to lift up his team and what are the areas of improvement, then he has no right to use players as scapegoats. Its time for Micky to go and bring these players back in the team.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    This is indeed the worst behaviour expected from team management in the midst of a tough series. This goes a step above Kim Hughes November 1984 episode of running away crying from a press conference after 3 straight defeats at the hand of WI.The Australians have previously lost in India in 1979, 1998, 2001. But they have never reacted this way. Already there were huge selection gaffes and planning deficit, which shows coach in poor light. The selection of Phil Hughes, the 3-over spell to Pattinson has already had its ill effect on the Australian performances. If those were not enough, now comes this killing blow.

  • Santosh_for_csk on March 11, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    y is there much hype on the "Australian way" and "Australian culture"...claiming wrong catches and not walking themselves was the australian culture....sledging was the australian culture...being tall and fit does not always mean "Australian way" was being "disciplined"...symonds was sacked and he is successful in big bash...u sack watson and he will play ipls now...just that u won too man test matches in a row does not in anway mean u guys were disciplined enough before...

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:35 GMT

    @cric_follower: so totally agre with you. CA and the ozzies have always set high standards and played hard. This team seems and mere shadow of any of the teams i have seen over the past 4 decades. Maybe it's to do with IPL money (I am not blaming the IPL) going to the heads of some players. But tes, it is obvious that there is a lack of dedication and fire in the belly for many of these players. I dont want to judge coach.captain, I am sure Clarke will be the most concerned with these developments, yet he had the strength to take this tough call. Hope we see a tougher oz team going forward ......

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:32 GMT

    Team comes first than players induvually. its easy to say those lines but staying on is tough.. Appreciate Clarke and team showing the way and being proffesional in maintaing TEAM STANDARDS.

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 11, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    Michael Clarke clearly wasn't being honest in that interview. He was towing the party line.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    Pull them up for not batting well, not bowling well, but don't do this nonsense over them not filling up forms, and not coming up with ideas of improvement. Isn't it the job of the coach to come up with ideas? It's more of science and corporate mindset in Cricket these days than the romance that we fell in love with. Now, I understand what is majorly wrong with the Australian cricket: it's their "Head Coach" Mickey Arthur.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    well hold on the head coach has asked every player to give feed back for the two games played an how they can improve which is backed by the other heads but these four did not do so.My question is why not? Standards have to be in place.Mind you would Michael Clarke be dropped if he did not fill it out?

  • sportofpain on March 11, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    Wow - this seems to be really harsh esp on folks like Khwaja and Johnson who have been sitting on the sidelines and Pattinson who's been a lion hearted and standout performer. Just listening to Clarke after the Hyderabad test and now reading all this, it appears to me that Clarke is not a friendly person - playing must be fun after all - if it isn't and is stressful, many folks might drop out. Katich, Symonds both had issues with Clarke, Punter was demoted in the batting order by Clarke, Hussey quit unexpectedly and now this. That's a lot of roadkill. Is the problem really at the top? Is Khwaja's axing a political move to give some of his favorites more tests given that the clamour for Khwaja's inclusion was getting louder? Lot's of questions...

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    i think clarke is a very big faliure for ca . he have achieved nothing yet. maybee a indian whitewash but that is very normal in australia when sehwag and co dont teamwork with dhoni . but this is clarkes reality he is a loser because he make the fault and i dont think he wont be there for long as a captain because you dont blame the players .

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:20 GMT

    Appreciate the way Clarke stood by Team Rules.Its always easy to say and be different when it comes to application , here Clarke and team shown great application. May not sound good at start but in long term helps to build team.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:18 GMT

    Thank you Michael Clarke for dropping three of the few players who could have turned things around for Australia.Its laughable to hear Arthur say this, couldn't he just make them sit in a circle and ask them.....by taking stern action for such small things Clarke,Dovey and Arthur have shown that they are not communicating with their players, instead of coming closer in a crisis, Australia is imploding, how the worm turns. In earlier crises Australia rose to the occasion, here they are losing it. Looks like Clarke is being run by Arthur who isnt talking to the players and is getting Clarke to build a distance with them too. Losing Watson is a disaster, he's one of the greatest all rounders in the world today and if he is treated so badly after a bit of lost form then come Delhi....Clarke will be standing at Delhi International Airport recruiting Aussies for the Kotla Test.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:18 GMT

    If you're winning you can afford a certain degree of freedom from petty coaching, but if you are getting beaten you need to be humble.

  • palla.avinash on March 11, 2013, 16:17 GMT

    Mr Clarke always Australia cannot be NO 1 team and keep your feet on your ground.Even tendulkar captained Indian team and expected all players to perform like him but they couldn't do it not because they didn't work hard nor he maintained them well , but at that time India domestic cricket couldn't good players,similarly Australia cricket wasn't able to produce excellent amazing players for various reasons like interest in ipl,domestic pitches in Australia need to be changed they need to be more flat than they are now.Team cant improve skills in a single day sometimes they don't have ability to produce skills example lyon can never be ajmal who can fear other oppositions single handily like warne, so more stress on players can lead to disasters and ipl also plays a major role in the fall of Australia performance in tests and rise of England in tests as they don't play ipl. so these kind of sacking wont help Australia team i think Watson wont be another scape goat like symonds,katich

  • darsh127 on March 11, 2013, 16:16 GMT

    I like to see the commitment in Clarke in getting his team better and actually trying to win. I remember Dhoni last oz tour and this is what he says "i am he main culprit" , well, just saying that is boot enough. Very happy for CA determination after such losses. Only if my team India had learned this way. Atleast now some players are being dropped and I see some progress. Hopefully Oz can sort out their problems and give India a bit of competition i suppose. And most definitely this will effect their Ashes tour :P

  • yogikanna on March 11, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    This is ridiculous. Players are good at playing sport....everybody knows that sportsmen are no good at writing reports or filling up forms. Axing players because they did not turn up their 'home work" sounds like ridiculous kinder garden school mentality ....LOL. If you give players a 2 day break, let them relax their body and their mind, don't give them homework. They are tired as such. I feel for the Aussie team...they are under a lot of stress already, the didn't need this...

  • pp08 on March 11, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    i agree that discipline must be maintained by player, but what about Mickey & management, before taking such a drastic action he should be aware of his duties (to know how to teach & groom players for this kind of international games) I think you should resign from your position now otherwise Australian cricket board will soon fired you. you should not act like military

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    Wlell Well Well... Discipline and Punctuality cannot be over'emphasised, it has to be maintained at all times . Anyway what I personally feel is that this matter could have been kept down until this important part of the series was concluded. Australian Cricket bosses should have known better

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    Nuff respect to the Head Coach, Clarke and the rest of the LEADERSHIP Team! Just when I was hoping CA would go into the kind of slump that has kept my beloved West Indies playing catch up for the last 30 years after management dropped the ball in the 80's, there had to be a Mickey Arthur and a Michael Clarke positioned and prepared to AT ALL COST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to CA. Balls guys, balls!!! Talent is everywhere today... just needs to be harnessed and channeled... CHARACTER..?...Different story.

  • johnathonjosephs on March 11, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    More than just doing the work, this is more of a respect issue. Not doing what the coach tells the team to do is a sign that the players don't respect nor take the coach seriously. Coach has to put his foot down and act like the alpha male. This is obviously just not ONE small thing they didn't do. It seems like those 4 players were giving disrespect and not taking things too seriously the entire tour and that attitude is what must be stopped

  • karthik9952435259 on March 11, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    OH clarke you speak like CEASER but just look @ your shadow that will tell much things. I am ok with your ULTIMATE(!) australia cricket team from your statement. but tell me why simon katich has been dropped from the national side even continuously performing extremly well in all 3 formats. any answer? may be you say he breech the CA rules by putting tea cups other than dust bin right..dont to try make the listeners as idiot , we also know SOMETHING about your approach even not much..In your point of view D hussey, katich, watson... who next ?

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    The expectations that Clarke has set out in public are reasonable. But, the failings listed and action taken are not in consonance with these expectations. The players capabilities and attitudes are known to the team management before they landed in India. Failure has been across the team with the exception of Clarke and ironically Pattinson who is not considered for the third Test. What Khawaja has done? Surely it cannot be non performance by a player who has not even played a Test in the series. Same with Johnson. How would a youngster like Khawaja and even Pattinson ignore team instructions unless he has the backing of someone else bigger and powerful? The public is bound to ask these questions because Arthur and Clarke have shared something but not the full story. Also without any conditions for change in attitude, how is that the same quartet will automatically qualify for selection for the next Test? Clarke's disclosures raise more questions than they answer.

  • Ashish_514 on March 11, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    Well, here in corporate we strive to reduce the reporting and presentation burden from field staff, so they can do their actual job. Is it going the reverse way for sports?? No doubt discipline is important and when you have zeroed down to a way of preparation, you need to stick to that. I'm not questioning as much the sacking as I'm questioning the preparation method chosen here. Let the analysis and feedback be the job of coaching staff. It's good that they are being made to ponder and think, but making them write assignments is not the way. Group discussion or one to one interaction is better in my view. And the Head Coach should not feel small by approaching the players and vice-versa

  • Rhygwyn on March 11, 2013, 16:09 GMT

    I will be first to admit that I would hate such an assignment - or at least the way it is being presented here. However as far as I am aware self-analysis by players is a pretty standard procedure used by coaches in many sports? One thing is for sure, the Oz cricket teams needs to stop airing their internal issues in public. It is impossible for us to know whether the "punishment" is reasonable and this, along with other issues, will just continue to increase pressure on them unnecessarily. They are already under unnecessary pressure to "win" when they are still struggling to find the right mix of personnel.

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    What's going on????? James Pattinson, Mitchell and Shane(if he could ball in Mohali) could have turned tables for visitors.... This is really nonsense from CA. If you dare to throw players out then better dare to disclose the reasons... With this series is as good as over for viewers.....

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:07 GMT

    kwaja and johnson didnt paly ne match,,how can dey be exclude,,,,micky arthur should be exclude

  • mensan on March 11, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    But Usman and Johnson did not play. So how can they give input regarding improvement in their game.

  • BnH1985Fan on March 11, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    If players find time to tweet, why can't they find to write 3 things they'd do to improve going forward?

    One thing Aussie players seem to not have learned from Simon Katich -- if you get in Clarke's bad books, you are history!

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    It is not a sportman's job to be literate, nor indeed to think about his job - though some can obviously manage both, others cannot. For example, can you imagine Terry Venables asking Paul Gascoigne to do the '3 points to improve ' exercise. He would not have been capable of it, but Venables was cute enough to know that. It is the coach's job to recognise the faults of players, and to point them out in 1-to-1 sessions.

  • 64blip on March 11, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    Eesh! The more you hear, the worse it gets! Desperate management, like a teacher who lets the class get out of control and then goes over the top on some poor kid who's just dropped his pencil to 'make an example of them' and attempt to re-assert some sort of 'authority.' The performances have been mediocre because, Pattinson and Clarke aside, the team IS mediocre. No amount of filled in forms and spreadsheets is going to make Smith a test #5 or #6 or Doherty a test spinner. Good luck Micky, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

  • Ayzaz on March 11, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    shouldve been pretty easy for MJ and UJ - "wasnt in the test team, get me in and thats improvement"

  • Beertjie on March 11, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    Players not selected for the first two tests might be expected to indicate how they would play in the conditions, but surely observing how they fare at training is more important. Perhaps it was there that they revealed through their less than enthusistic demeanour what has led to their axing. Judge them out in the middle and on the practice field, not on their talk!

  • on March 11, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    What reasons does Clarke give for the sacking of the four players other than the feedback points?? None. He just says that there has been other instances as well. Well then pretty well mention some. This exposing of internal disputes in the media and open sacking of such high caliber players just shows the discord among current crop of Aussie players. I think Clarke is a good captain and a great player but a good captain must know how to handle the rogue ones. Sacking the rogue ones is not the answer.

  • Rags57 on March 11, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    There is obviously more to it than meets the eye. Given the threat of losing the series badly this could well be a diversionary tactic (on a flimsy issue). If Australia lose at Mohali, they can use the weakened team (caused purely by the disciplinary action) as an excuse for the loss. Purely justified, right? On the other hand, if they manage to draw or win, Mickey can boast about his brilliant tactic. It is a case of heads you win and tails you don't lose. A loss with the full strength team at Mohali (on a reasonably pacy track) would not have been forgiven so it is Mickey's idea I guess. Dhoni and team should not be fooled by this and get complacent.

  • stumpedlloyd on March 11, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    Here is what Andy Flower said about trying to figure out why England starts poorly in overseas test series: "If you are asking about a trend, that is certainly something that I should be addressing myself. I have some ideas on rejigging a couple of things in our preparation, in our management team firstly, and we'll see if we can do something about it. We always encourage our players to be honest with themselves, and each other. So then we've got to do the same. The coaches have to do that, and I'm the first guy that has to do it." This is what a coach is supposed to do. He didn't ask the players to text or email him three points each about what could be done and then try to figure out 48 different points! I am all about instilling team discipline, but surely Mickey Arthur, Michael Clarke and Gavin Dovey don't need 16 players to tell them the three simple points are bat better, field better, bowl better!

  • viswanoram on March 11, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    Come on!!! What would the Aussie management do if 8 players had not done their "Homework"???

  • mikey76 on March 11, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    Well Pattinson has been the standout player for Australia in this series so it's hard to see where he could have improved, while Khawaja and Johnson haven't played! So I have sympathy with these players. Australia have just hamstrung themselves further now, can't see where they're going to get wickets now. 4-0 India.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    Is Pup actually respected by the players? Does he need to rely on Management to make things happen? Looking back to the Symonds fishing incident in Darwin, was the team meeting called after Roy set out just to snag him and make an example? And who called the meeting Michael or Management? Pup is an excellent cricketer, but I question whether he is an effective captain of the team, more so off the field than on.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    Exactly what happened .....will some body tell me....why were they asked that they wd not be considered...so mean man u r down 0-2.....u cd have waited for alst tset atleast where after loosing u cant come back...these guys r not school boys...i mean whats happening...????????/

  • class9ryan on March 11, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    MICKEY ARTHUR - It should have been you who should have made some plans to do well in the last two matches. instead hes been asking the players to suggest him. This is a sorry incident and I think Mickey Arthur should concentrate his players to atleast stand against spinnners.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    It is obvious that Clarke's ego is slowly destroying Australian cricket. He is always after some players, especially Watson, and obviously enjoys the backing of some powers-that-be. I should be happy as an Indian fan. But it really saddens me seeing Australian cricket being taken for a ride in such shambolic manner.

  • vak1997 on March 11, 2013, 15:45 GMT

    It's outrageous! Pattinson will be a big blow and as does the axing of Watson considering his caliber...

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    i think australia must change coach & find a good coach..........thats best

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    What kind of feedback was required, written or verbal?

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    Perfect Mr.Arthur, great discipline is needed to form a great team.. U showed the right attitude inspite demise of team Australia in the last two games..Brave decision..

  • kkk999 on March 11, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    i suppose its d pressure of being 2-0 down in the series..no doubt aussies will miss watto and pattinson.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Discipline should always be given priority. No player is bigger than the game itself.

  • rollyko on March 11, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    Clarke has pretty much been the only player standing up to be counted. He is the captain and has the duty to set the standard. It is not just about this tour (which will probably go 0:4) but about the Ashes and future series. If you want to see sports in Australia where captains and coaches have let things slide look at swimming and football.

  • shrey123 on March 11, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    Well, it was a very bold decision by CA and Mickey and Clarke. I think this is the right way forward for any team. Don't think anybody will forget to do their homework now. As an Indian fan, I think this is the way to go for any team including Team India. GO INDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rajattiwaari on March 11, 2013, 15:32 GMT

    "We were asked to do one thing from the head coach"- Reminds me of college days when I missed out on submitting assignments!! Sorry,but there is something wrong with the head of head coach. This punishment is way too harsh. Having said that, Watson should not have left,he should have faced this like a man.

  • Harlequin. on March 11, 2013, 15:31 GMT

    To me, it sounds like the players were being asked to do loads of extra little bits and pieces which had nothing to do with cricket and everything to do with performance monitoring. Performance monitoring is used only by coaches and people in charge to protect their backsides, but mostly they are distracting and disruptive. I wouldn't be surprised if the players got sick of the distractions and just wanted to play cricket, this sort of thing goes on in the business world all the time and it was the reason I left my last job!

  • Jayzuz on March 11, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Certainly the punishment seems very harsh. The question is why paper work seems to be the main priority - Khawaja, Johnson and Pattinson can hardly be said to be at fault for the 2 losses. I said it before, too much left-brained science stuff, not enough emotional intelligence. The rotation policy killed team harmony and turned the team into mercenaries. Totally nuts. Selections have been a shambles. Well, at least one thing is clear, this assures us that the worst performing players will stay in the team. That's real smart. Got good paperwork though. I do like Clarke's standards, though. He won't tolerate mediocrity. There's some chance this might have a long-term positive effect, but they have to sort out this admin/rotation/selection/science rubbish.

  • sibyLona on March 11, 2013, 15:28 GMT

    is it player's job to write all these? their duty is to play well...a coach should know strength and waek points of his players and what should do to improve their performance...

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    Isn't it too harsh for these players to get this kind of treatment? After all, like most of you said that these are not school boys, they are international matured Well-known Cricketers. May be some other ways of punishment could have been given. Is there any chance now for the Aussies to win the rest two test matches? I wonder what will be the morality of the entire team now.

  • anuajm on March 11, 2013, 15:21 GMT

    Discipline in any competitive environment is a necessary facet to success, and the same applies to cricket. Punishments are necessary according to the mistakes committed to get professional in line with the expectations but punishment has to be fair and according to the 'crime' committed and not a blanket for everything. I think sacking 4 of the players who were surely going to play the 3rd test for not completing the 'homework' is definitely unjust and to the extreme. A public reprimand, match fees cut, anything similar would have much better suited the situation. This will not only reduce the overall morale of the team, but has weaken the team significantly and the 3rd test might become a no contest which is sad. I think this is an emotional decision where the 'management' is not able to accept their defeats and therefore were not able to accept slight put of the line behavior of its players. Cricket or for that matter sports meant for fun, is sadly the loser.

  • ianbellfan on March 11, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    As an Indian, I see that most of the comments made here reflect the Indian way of handling indiscipline. A good example is the way Praveen Kr's case was handled. Banned one day & let off with a 'final' warning the next day. For God's sake, these are professional cricketers and they need to know that professionalism is expected not only in the field of play but also in related activities as well. In my place of work, if I fail to upload my goals in time, I will be assigned the lowest rating by default & shown the door at the end of the appraisal process. I see no reason why cricketers ought to be treated any differently. So make fun and ridicule the events of today, the fact remains that no individual is greater than the team. what was asked was 3 points to be submitted after an introspection. If you want to call it an essay and make fun, suit yourself. But please also explain as to how you folks expect improvement if you do not understand your mistakes in the first place.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:19 GMT

    Watson is considered as the next Kallis. So this of course has to do with something off the field more than on it.

    I think Pup should also understand that other teams can match and overtake their standards.

  • jettison17 on March 11, 2013, 15:18 GMT

    What a load of rubbish from Captain Clarke trying to defend the inflated ego of coach Arthur. I see no future of Cricket Australia if these two remain in charge. Now its almost mandatory to bring changes before the all important Ashes.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:15 GMT

    Doesnt everyone get it...???????? This is a classic example of Australia getting ready to lose the series 4-0. When they head home, they will need an excuse of why they lost and this current show will be the perfect excuse. Its genius stuff from the worlds dirtiest cricketers.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Interesting to note how Australia has axed Usman Khwaja and Mitchel Johnson for not complying with the Head coach's orders of providing him with suggestions on what they could've done to win the match. They sat out on both occasions. Perhaps a valid suggestion could've been: "we can start off by perhaps making us play instead of the baboons you're playing in your XI" ;)

    Or maybe that's what they said to get the axe.. haha

  • ujayakody on March 11, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    What standards Clarke is talking about? "there is a big differencein the Aus team and other teams" is that a joke? may be that is true, for them to be losing so heavily like this. Mr. Clarke all international teams are highly professional today and go through a lot of trainings and has the same levels of commitments and technology as your self proclaimed "super Aus team" Just because you are not the same team you used to be does not mean you can act childishly. Grow up and come to reality. Put your heads down and admit your current team is simply not good enough compared to the Aus team few years back!!!

  • OneFineDay on March 11, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    As an Englishman watching this from afar, I am just delighted.... The disintegration of the Aussies continues apace, there has been too much laziness from this Australian team, a lack of attention to detail nearly cost England in the first Test against New Zealand, and will cost a lot of these Aussie players, whose reputations have largely been built on the Pravda-like reporting of their exploits, a great deal. All the recent teams to have topped the world rankings in recent months and years have learned the harsh lesson, falter for one moment and the chance, match, series, status in gone... Not going to go all McGrath on this, but start the car, the Ashes are most definitely staying home. Thank goodness.

  • Cricket_Man on March 11, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    Well said Clarke. Hopefully other captains learn from you.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    I love how both Johnson and Khawaja were a part of this without playing in either of the first 2 matches...

  • yoogi on March 11, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    Jim Davis, spot on. The coach has gone too far. Actually he lost control of the team, or thats what it looks like. And what is with daily wellness forms, you report when there is a problem. otherwise there is no need to report. what are you going to do by daily checking everything? Are they in ICU struggling for life? although it seems CA is certainly struggling.

  • street_smart on March 11, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    Drop Mickey... ASAP... get a coach who had played international cricket....

  • WILAD on March 11, 2013, 15:08 GMT

    Expectations are too high. Australia team are not good as they think they are.

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:07 GMT

    Good for the Captain to explain to outsiders like us.... If there are standards of performance and behavior that ought to be adhered to, any transgression or failure to meet such standards, should have its consequences... Mr Clarke has hinted that there are other issues which are not know to outsiders like us....therefore, based upon the Captain's explanation - there ought to be some order restored and respect for the game.....

    By the way I am a Saffa.... I'm really keen to hear what the other "heads" of Australian Cricket will say or do in response to this....

    @Sudhir65, well spoken mate.... Discipline ought to be maintained... If the transgressors are even senior team members, they should face the music...Although , I may not be acquainted with all the facts underlying this decision and reaction... I do think that the Coach and the Captain are right in maintaining a disciplinary and tough stance in these troubled times of Ausie cricket....

  • Aju.Nair on March 11, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    I am sure, its not about a single incident.=.even though Aruthur and Clarke is pointing some silly reasons, the fact wont be like that..there can be a rift in the team between these players and captain/coach..Adding to that there might have other reasons which Clark dont wanted to reveal. I dont think this is a good move by CA. They could have solved all the problems after the tour. Now this wont help other players. I dont think Aus can make a come back this tour. Usman Khwaja and Michael Johnson without playing a match, how is it possible to give feedback of bad performance.I have heard about the fight between Clark and Katich before, but never heard something like that between Clarke and Watson. If I recall a statement from Clarke sometime last month, he told that he cant assure a place for Watson in the team.Adding to that Henriques who can bat and bowl can replace Watson might have given a possiblity to underline the fact that Clarke is looking for a genuine all rounder.Godspeed.

  • mshyder on March 11, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    Had they provided their feedback it would have been something like this. Pattinson: I will try and take all 20 Indian wickets in the next match as I am the only successful OZ bowler in the series so far, and no other bowler is doing anything. Johnson: I will try to bowl better in the nets as thats what I have been doing on this tour so far whereas other much inferior and lesser effective bowlers are making it to the paying eleven. Khwaja: I will take a short course on how to serve people and carry drinks on the field more efficiently as this seems to be the purpose of my tour. Since despite my capabilities and much talked about talent I cannot get a game.

  • nareshgb1 on March 11, 2013, 15:05 GMT

    "daily wellness forms" - it keeps getting more idiotic. I have no great liking for Chapelli, but righ tnow I would like nothing more than he and Lillee getting together to trash this bull----. Process is not all bad, but there should, above all, be a process to keep the whole process thing in check.

  • Mushi... on March 11, 2013, 15:05 GMT

    This is a wake up call for other countries players as well...! I'm sure that each player of other teams will follow the rules and regulations carefully.

    Second note: I was wondering how team members going to co-ordinate with Mr Clarke when he spoke about coming days hard work in his last post match presentation. I got it right, in fact its very difficult when u loose the matches in huge margin!

  • smartrah on March 11, 2013, 15:02 GMT

    With just 12 guys to make a selection for the third test, I would still hope that the Aussies will leave Steven Smith out. Nobody knows what role he has in the team in a T20 game. How will people know what he is selected for in a Test match!?

  • farhan4050 on March 11, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Bravo Australia! This is the reason they are for known yet the best team ever in Cricket history. They don't give damn to Victories, if it's against the terms and codes of the team's constitution, kick them out. Discipline is the key to success. That is what all the Asian teams should learn. When Sehwag or Afridi doesn't perform, the team simply don't have the guts to bunch them. James Pattison, front-line pacer, Shane Watson, player who plays spin the best. Please, if you won't follow the Coach, dis-respect the management, disobey the captain, that is where you'll land. Back HOME!

  • on March 11, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Cricket is a Gentleman's game. All rules set by the team management, ICC and the Arena's management are to be obeyed. If anyone fails to do so, immediate action has to be taken against the. In my opinion CA and Clarke did the right thing.

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    How do you expect Khawaja and Johnson to provide feedback when they have not even played a single test ? Shouldn't clarke be the one providing feedback on how the team can improvise. Don't know what went through internally in the meetings but the decision is really harsh on watson.

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    Dear Mr. Arthur & Clarke, Even if you are not worried about winning (or at least accomplishing something) the series, please keep in mind the miserly small number of substitutions we poor fantasy cricket players have in this test series. With two test gone and then you firing ur best bowler and all rounder so far, you have left us in middle of nowhere! Please tell us who you are firing next so that we may not choose him in the team!

    Thanks, Sincere Fantasy Cricket League Player.

  • big_al_81 on March 11, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    @ Sudhir65. It's refreshing to see a sensible point like yours. I think this shows the difference between the mentality of the top teams who want to win everywhere - and won't accept losing - and the rest. England had to deal with the KP nonsense last summer. They were called harsh but team unity issues were impacting the standard of performance in a big series - we lost to SA but bounced straight back to win in India. India have done virtually nothing proactive about their decline - we heard too many excuses about home and away conditions ad then England turned up and were better in Indian conditions as well as in English conditions. Australia won't accept low standards and while this may not have been the right line to draw, drawing at least some tough 'lines in the sand' is something that other teams would do well to consider.

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:56 GMT

    Exactly what was Usman Khawaja supposed to do? He didn't even play the previous two games.

  • swat1999 on March 11, 2013, 14:56 GMT

    Australian players and team management should not be much strech full after being loose couple of test match. Australia is alwaya a huge cricketing nation i believe if the players are concentrate there skill and knowledge they may come back remaining two matches. At the same time Arther and Clerke should not be give many information or statement to the media about their team matters.

  • mshyder on March 11, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    How ridiculous, Johnson and Usman being dropped for not providing feedback on how to improve their game for the MATCHES THEY DID NOT PLAY. I admire Micky Arthur and Clark for doing a great job of ruing one of the best teams in the world. With this attitude this slide will continue and very soon we all will see OZ near the bottom of the ICC ranking just wait and watch.

  • East_West on March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT

    Although this scenario would have been avoided OR unnecessary, this tells something about Cricket Australia that we, Indians conveniently avoid! Indian cricketers have been humbled with 8-0 outside subcontinent, but no one has learn from that, and all gave excuses - including Gautham, Viru, Dhnoi! But no Indian had a spine to take a bold decision [that includes BCCI or selection team] to drop some and bring some! Everyone is dispensable in this world, that includes Mr Sachin as well! The recent chances Sachin got as compared to others is ridiculous, I wish Indian cricketers can learn from the recent retirement of Sri Lankan Cricketers! As for Shane W, I feel for him! he was insisting that he can bowl in India but Clarke never brought him in during Indian batting, and with with bowling skills he has, he would have troubled Indians! I am not sure what Usman has done though Bench warming but still kicked out.....! Oh, well!

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT

    Reading between the lines its hard to imagine this is about anyone other than Usman Khawaja. The rest of them are seemingly collateral damage. I am fairly willing to back whoever is in charge at the time and accept that they all have their own methods in getting the best out of the team. I feel now though that the path Arthur and Clarke have gone down just isn´t going to bring much in the way of rewards. I think that the CA hierarchy is largely responsible for allowing them too much influence in selections and this is compounded further by their whole team/work ethic. Seemingly no-one from above asks them simple questions like "why in a 17 man squad is there no reserve keeper?". "Why, on a tour of India, is Australia´s best performing FC spinner not picked". "Why, after losing 200 test caps experience, is there no-one like Rogers or D.Hussey taken on tour?" The people that need to be providing the answers are asking the questions, it is all completely back to front.

  • swervin on March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT

    though it is good in some ways that the standards are high, the australian cricket team had somewhat unrealistic expectations going into this tour (as australia did going into the olympics) - this was always going to be a very tough tour - it always is, compounded by the inexperience of a number of the players - also if you look at the second innings of the last test, there were quite a lot of unlucky dismissals, so some of the criticism might have been a little harsh about that performance

    usman actually should have been given a go in the third test, but anyway...

    more likely is that this is some spin job to punish these players for some big night/infraction they had during the tour...it's ok to discipline them but they should be more transparent about the reasons if they are honest with themselves...otherwise it is politics and no one wants to play in a team where there's politics...

    usman actually should have been given a go in the third test, but anyway...

  • dabhand on March 11, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    Seems there's a lot wrong in the dressing room that's being hidden by a simple explanation of why several players are being sent home - because you can be sure it's not just for failing to fill in some forms

    A solution springs to mind - make RandyOz coach - though very quiet when Aus are losing, he is a self-confessed expert when it comes to analysing teams - he might be wrong from time to time, well most times actually, but he'd be pretty sure he could sort it out.

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    Pretty big punishment for not writing your essays. I guess CA doesn't really think there players bring much individually to the team. Nothing wrong about it but just that I personally find it very harsh.

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    Simple question - What would Clarke and "Head" coach done if 6-7 players had forgotten to do their homework? Bench them and field 9 players for the 3rd test?

    What's next? Detention for long hair?

  • SubashShohag on March 11, 2013, 14:48 GMT

    Micky and his co. are absolutely right. Because every player is representing his respective country.

  • Arthur on March 11, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    Team protocols sets the right standards for the team. However it seems Clarke-Arthur decision reeks of a knee-jerk reaction; as their situation is desperate. Shouldn't Mickey Arthur as head coach, know what the shortcomings of his team are? I'm sure there is another reason behind the players' decision not to submit what was asked of them. Are they there to do admin or to play cricket? From a playing perspective, Australia cricket has lost the fight post Border-Waugh-Ponting eras; and seems still to be trying to deal with this loss. Looking at some of the dismissals in India, I think it's a disgrace for those wearing the baggy green. Then to have Haydos trying to help sort out batting frailties against spin in a net session. Too late. Let him open the innings! The toing and froing of selectors has reached crisis proportions. Sack the selectors, the captain, and the coach. I don't think Arthur is the right man to coach Australia - the players know it!

  • TRAM on March 11, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    Let me guess. Mickey Arthur was a school teacher prior to coming to cricket, am I right? "Boys & girls ... submit your project report by this weekend....". He has appreciated about 'fantastic' email responses from some of the players. Didn't realize he is coaching them on authoring rather than cricket.

  • Thefakebook on March 11, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    This ridiculous Mickey has messed up everything,Shane Warne is right a coach can't be a selector.CLARKE has no option left but to defend his coach or get in a another controversy which will tarnish his image(which is a big no no to him).But 3-0 is almost guaranteeing now, thanks Mickey.GOOD JOB.

  • Vaaalpaiyan on March 11, 2013, 14:42 GMT

    I will step in for Kawaja and present those there actions which may be required from him to improve the team's performance..

    Khawaja: 1. I will carry the proper customised drinks for each player.. 2. I will make continous patrol around the boundary line and ensure no Austrailian player fields there run out of drinks. 3. while the team batting, I will ask BCCI for providing me a dug out (similar to what we have in T20) at the boundry and I will maintain all the collections of gloves, pads & bats.. And squad sit, wait for their command like a ball boy in Tennis court.

    This is just Summary, once the Oz team coach and captain agrees I will make a detailed presentation, Please allow that poor boy to play next test.. Even though I support indian team its really painfull to see Aussies being trashed like this while Ashes around the corner.

  • aby_prasad on March 11, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    When I heard Clarke say 'This is the australian team unlike other cricketing teams' , I was inclined to ask what world these guys think they live in! But the fact is, Australian team has always been like that irrespective of the results. It does require tremendous focus and discipline from an administration to maintain such standards for around 20 years , again irrespective of the results! though the results too show australia by far the team with a greater standard if you take the last 15 years or so. But even then, its hard to digest such strict standards. I mean , after all this is just cricket not the military! Whatever, non aussies like me strictly should have no business in telling Aussies how to run about their business! It does leave one gasping though! (I know my mind is battling between 'whaa!?' and 'hmm ok but ofcourse its australia' Anyways, wish we had half of such professionalism,discipline and strict monitoring and actions, just half though! jeez!

  • milepost on March 11, 2013, 14:37 GMT

    Michael, the more you say about this the worse it sounds. You've made 4 players unavailable for a must win match. The reasons you and the coach have given are trivial. I understand the need for discipline and a team attitude but you are completely disrespecting the Australian fans by taking this line. You are embarrassing your country. Step outside of your oh so serious little bubble consider why you get to make a living paying cricket anyway. As a dual Australian-British citizen I am starting to look at England as at least a playing group I can respect. In a million years I never questioned my support for the Australian cricket team but by your insulated decision literally overnight I am wondering why would I support you? Did you not think about the consequences of this?

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    It is not who played and who did not play, the question asked was to give a feedback on how the team can improve their game ! May be Mickey Arthur and co. have been short on putting their views to the whole team and took the easy way out of finding the scapegoats ! Its a game and these sort of results are known to happen, keeping the natural law of averages catching up with teams !

  • aashokan on March 11, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    Aussies

    This is just the MIDPOINT of the Tour! Is there no camaraderie in your dressing room? No team spirit? Are you guys Indian?

    A.Ashokan Kollam Kerala India 11-03-2013 20:00

  • Sir.Ivor on March 11, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    I fully agree with Michael Clarke and in fact Mickey Arthur as well for what they have expressed in the aftermath of this unfortunate situation. Discipline is absolutely non negotiable. There cannot be two ways about it even if someone thought he was Dennis Lillee , or Sir Don Bradman himself on the basis of his own perception of his cricketing ability. If Pattinson thought that he was indispensable, there are many others in Australia plying the same trade who can actually win back the Ashes from England. For instance, Mittchell Staarc is a green Wasim Akram and England will scoff at him at their own peril. So if Watson and his gang of 4 think Australia is in the dumps and so can be deserted, I am not sure I agree. I am sure Australian cricket will be richer for this purge. No one is bigger than the game of cricket. I wish CA will realise that being No1 is not everything. Discipline and ethics are more important.I am so happy that these 4 have been shown the door. Many more should be.

  • RoJayao on March 11, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    As I believed, there's a little bit more fire behind the smoke here. What's worrying is the fact that it appears the coach and captain do not appear to have the team on board. It also makes you realise how big an influence Ponting and Hussey had over the more recalcitrant elements. Speaking of which, I cannot even begin to comprehend the gall of Watson in now announcing that he's "considering his future"! From the outside it would seem that his attitude in general this summer, and specifically regarding his broadcast desire to open rather than bat 4, and then deciding he wouldn't bowl at all in India and to hell with team balance, has been a seriously destabilising influence for his own form and for the welfare of the team. Maybe 20/20 is your game Watto. Maybe you should indeed give up the rest, stop wasting everyone's time!

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    What's the real problem?

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:33 GMT

    Discipline must be maintained!!!

  • iHitWicket on March 11, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    Yeah .. "HEAD COACH" the coaching got to his BIG HEAD !!! Man-up Aussies, treating international players like school boys is not your culture .. won't work.

  • rocket_rocket on March 11, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    This decision has made CA a laughing stock ...clarke has a valid point but sacking for just not giving a feedback is just senseless...such situations must be dealt cautiously...no point in washing dirty linen in public....coach doesn't make a team ..players do...

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    And here i came thinking there was more to this than writing an essay and apparently i was wrong.

  • NewYorkCricket on March 11, 2013, 14:25 GMT

    I wish the Indian team could do the same to some of our players. Michael Clarke will get some brickbats today, but it will bode very well for the future generations of cricket Australia.

  • CoolCharlie on March 11, 2013, 14:23 GMT

    What rubbish Mr. Clarke.. Looks like you love to gun down anyone who you think does not comply with you every time. Congrats , now there will not be anyone who can or even dare to object you. Watson was the last thorn. Katich, DHussey , are some the others ...

  • jamaku_jamajam on March 11, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    so in a nutshell these 4 players have been made scapegoats based on not just this one but all the previous incidents where standards were not met and those incidents apparently may or may not have these 4 involved..WOW new benchmark for disciplinary has just been set.

  • Sudhir65 on March 11, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    As an Indian fan I fully agree with Aussie coach and captain's disciplinary actions. I just wish Indian teams took losses half as seriously. We lost 0-8 but there was no sense of urgency, shame or even any serious analysis or need to make any changes.

  • Rumjuggers on March 11, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    Mickey Arthur has no idea.

  • JimDavis on March 11, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    On the bright side, the rest will do Pattinson good for the ashes. But what is all this crap about daily wellness forms and presentations by players. Come on Inverarity - you have a teaching backgroud, you know this is BS of the highest order. It's high time Mickey was shown the door. Right now John, I'd be more than happy if you took over the coaching. You were pretty good at it and Mickey isn't the answer.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Basically there are 'Clarke's boys' and 'not-Clarke's boys'. If you fit into the latter category, like Khawaja, who has been dropped without even playing a single match on this tour, you don't stand a chance when you've got a captain who consistently makes poor decisions and refuses to bat higher than 5 or 6. What a mess, this mess is all of Clarke's making. He just doesn't know what he's doing out there.

  • vivekviswanathan1234 on March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Dude USMAN has not played a single match for him to present anything, How has his performance been mediocre? is it in terms of presentation?

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    So players are hiding some niggles may be an injury that's why they are axed Who knows.

  • lakshithadaun on March 11, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    Get new Head Coach for Australia for devolop the batting like SA

  • lakshithadaun on March 11, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    Get new Head Coach for Australia for devolop the batting like SA

  • on March 11, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    So players are hiding some niggles may be an injury that's why they are axed Who knows.

  • vivekviswanathan1234 on March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Dude USMAN has not played a single match for him to present anything, How has his performance been mediocre? is it in terms of presentation?

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Basically there are 'Clarke's boys' and 'not-Clarke's boys'. If you fit into the latter category, like Khawaja, who has been dropped without even playing a single match on this tour, you don't stand a chance when you've got a captain who consistently makes poor decisions and refuses to bat higher than 5 or 6. What a mess, this mess is all of Clarke's making. He just doesn't know what he's doing out there.

  • JimDavis on March 11, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    On the bright side, the rest will do Pattinson good for the ashes. But what is all this crap about daily wellness forms and presentations by players. Come on Inverarity - you have a teaching backgroud, you know this is BS of the highest order. It's high time Mickey was shown the door. Right now John, I'd be more than happy if you took over the coaching. You were pretty good at it and Mickey isn't the answer.

  • Rumjuggers on March 11, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    Mickey Arthur has no idea.

  • Sudhir65 on March 11, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    As an Indian fan I fully agree with Aussie coach and captain's disciplinary actions. I just wish Indian teams took losses half as seriously. We lost 0-8 but there was no sense of urgency, shame or even any serious analysis or need to make any changes.

  • jamaku_jamajam on March 11, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    so in a nutshell these 4 players have been made scapegoats based on not just this one but all the previous incidents where standards were not met and those incidents apparently may or may not have these 4 involved..WOW new benchmark for disciplinary has just been set.

  • CoolCharlie on March 11, 2013, 14:23 GMT

    What rubbish Mr. Clarke.. Looks like you love to gun down anyone who you think does not comply with you every time. Congrats , now there will not be anyone who can or even dare to object you. Watson was the last thorn. Katich, DHussey , are some the others ...

  • NewYorkCricket on March 11, 2013, 14:25 GMT

    I wish the Indian team could do the same to some of our players. Michael Clarke will get some brickbats today, but it will bode very well for the future generations of cricket Australia.