HCA XI v England XI, tour game, Hyderabad October 11, 2011

Bairstow and Borthwick star in rout

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England XI 367 for 4 (Bairstow 104*, Cook 85, Trott 74, Kieswetter 71) beat HCA XI 114 (Borthwick 5-31) by 253 runs Scorecard

England's one-day tour of India is a chance for some of the youngsters to impress and two of them, Jonny Bairstow and Scott Borthwick, shone in the final warm-up match before the ODIs begin on Friday. Bairstow underlined his precocious talent with a thunderous 53-ball hundred as England piled up 367 for 4 then Borthwick took advantage of some slap-happy batting from the hosts to finish with 5 for 31 in a 253-run victory.

Bairstow's onslaught, which included eight sixes, built on solid work from the top order, including an opening stand of 159 between Alastair Cook and Craig Kieswetter, while Jonathan Trott also found form with 74 off 68 balls as he and Bairstow added 143. Bairstow's second fifty took just 20 deliveries. The only batsman to miss out was Kevin Pietersen, who fell to the left-arm spin of Medhi Hasan for 10, and he has failed in both warm-ups on his return to the one-day side.

Ian Bell sat out this match with a stomach upset and Ravi Bopara was rested following his 73 in the first game so, with Bairstow's form clear, there are now some tricky selection issues ahead of the opening one-day international. Given that Pietersen has been brought on this tour rather than continuing his rest he is unlikely to be left out so Bell could be the player who has to make way.

The top three, however, appear to be set in stone despite a few early doubts when Trott was named at No. 4 in the team sheet. England will need to be flexible with their thinking during the series, but the tried and tested order seems likely to start. Cook and Kieswetter reacquainted themselves in a productive partnership following the latter's return from the Champions League and were not overly tested by a friendly home attack.

However, after England's less-than-inspiring display on Saturday when they were bowled out for 219 it was an important statement of intent to produce a commanding batting performance. Both openers could have reached three figures, but neither will be too concerned to have missed out as it ensured others had the chance for time in the middle. Cook, having again outscored his opening partner, was caught on the boundary and Kieswetter mistimed a pull.

Pietersen was caught at backward point after a brief stay but England's innings never threatened to lose direction as Trott and Bairstow combined in their different styles. Trott manoeuvred the field while Bairstow gave a display of the power and timing that had been on show during his ODI debut in Cardiff last month. The last 10 overs of England's innings - outside of Powerplay restrictions under the new regulations - brought 105 runs.

Despite a promising start against England's pace bowlers - which included Stuart Meaker - the home side collapsed when spin came into the attack. A superb catch at slip from Cook to remove Akshath Reddy gave Borthwick his first wicket and the same combination struck again two balls later.

Wickets continued to fall in a hurry and Meaker then got in on the act with three for himself in the 29th over as his pace proved too much for the lower order. Neither Borthwick nor Meaker are expected to push for initial selection in the series, but their performances will have been noted.

It completed a fine day for England's new faces but tougher challenges await.

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  • JG2704 on October 13, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    @Antriksh Saal - India won 3 or 4 one dayers but that was after the test series started and they had been over for several months. India had one warm up game (pre tests) vs Somerset in which they were all out for 224 in the first inns and then 69-0 in the second. But they did excel in the bowling dept restricting Somerset to 485-3 in the 1st inns and 260-2 in the second. Zaheer Khan played in that one too so that I guess showed what a huge player he would have been in the tests. Still it was only a warm up game and it was good to see that India raised their game in the test series and were extremely unfortunate not to win the close fought series

  • Naresh28 on October 13, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    YES WE GO ON AND ON. JUST LET THE TEAMS PLAY MAN. ENJOY THE GAME. REMEMBER YOU WIN SOME AND LOSE SOME. ASK SOMERSET THEY LOST TO AN INDIAN TEAM IN THE IPL T20 LATELY. ALSO YOU ENGLISH FANS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TALENT IN INDIA - THEY WON THE EMERGING TOURNAMENT IN AUSTRALIA RECENTLY AND THE U19 TORNAMENT IN INDIA RECENTLY. MAYBE OUR PACE BOWLERS ARE POOR AND HENCE WE GOT BEAT IN ENGLAND. ITS OKAY TO GET BEAT SOMETIME. JUST ONE DAY WE MIGHT UNEARTH A GOOD PACE BOWLER LOOK SHOIB AKTAR.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Very true RandyOz. No one had actually claimed that series as a win though. But, as you insist, it is the one blot on England's record of 9 series without a defeat: a 1-1 draw in South Africa. W20 L4 D7 in those 9 *Test* series. 6 of those 9 series have been won by a margin of 2 or more Tests and ther last 3 series have all been won convincingly against top five teams, with the only close series a rain-ruined one against Sri Lanka. It's enough to suggest that the side has some modest talent. The series in India will show how good some of the younger players are and at squad depth.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    Is there any point pointing out that the first choice England attack of Tremlett, Anderson, Finn, Broad, Bresnan and Swann (not to mention reserves like Woakes, Onions, Panesar, etc) do not have conspicuously South African accents??

  • on October 13, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    they+will+ fall to 4th or 5th place soon in test rankings.they r nt much forward than other teams in rating points

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    @CricketingStargazer like to know how you consider a draw in SA a win, guess you are typical English clutching at straws!

  • on October 13, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Theres no point arguing. India - the fans rely on the 90 yr olds (SRT,ZK,VS etc) and they call this they're A team LOL. No talent coming through when you have to rely on the oldies?

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    RandyOz, even if what you say were true, there is a reason why Australia have dropped down the rankings as they have. A few years ago they could take on a World XI and win. Now they can't. They were dreadful in India last autumn and then lost badly to England having briefly flattered for deceive for a couple of days early in the 1st Test. England have reached the top the hard way, playing Australia home and away, South Africa away and India at home. If that has been done with a multicultural side from a multicultural country, then so be it. It wan't so long ago that fans from another region were moaning that England were playing players like Panesar and Bopara. Welcome immigrants who can bring something positive to your country. Btw, if in your view South Africa "B" are hammering you, is there even any point turning up to play their First XI???

  • blastu on October 13, 2011, 9:20 GMT

    Just wait for 19 hours.....

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    @5wombats - is that EngLand or South Africa. I cant tell the difference these days.

  • JG2704 on October 13, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    @Antriksh Saal - India won 3 or 4 one dayers but that was after the test series started and they had been over for several months. India had one warm up game (pre tests) vs Somerset in which they were all out for 224 in the first inns and then 69-0 in the second. But they did excel in the bowling dept restricting Somerset to 485-3 in the 1st inns and 260-2 in the second. Zaheer Khan played in that one too so that I guess showed what a huge player he would have been in the tests. Still it was only a warm up game and it was good to see that India raised their game in the test series and were extremely unfortunate not to win the close fought series

  • Naresh28 on October 13, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    YES WE GO ON AND ON. JUST LET THE TEAMS PLAY MAN. ENJOY THE GAME. REMEMBER YOU WIN SOME AND LOSE SOME. ASK SOMERSET THEY LOST TO AN INDIAN TEAM IN THE IPL T20 LATELY. ALSO YOU ENGLISH FANS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TALENT IN INDIA - THEY WON THE EMERGING TOURNAMENT IN AUSTRALIA RECENTLY AND THE U19 TORNAMENT IN INDIA RECENTLY. MAYBE OUR PACE BOWLERS ARE POOR AND HENCE WE GOT BEAT IN ENGLAND. ITS OKAY TO GET BEAT SOMETIME. JUST ONE DAY WE MIGHT UNEARTH A GOOD PACE BOWLER LOOK SHOIB AKTAR.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Very true RandyOz. No one had actually claimed that series as a win though. But, as you insist, it is the one blot on England's record of 9 series without a defeat: a 1-1 draw in South Africa. W20 L4 D7 in those 9 *Test* series. 6 of those 9 series have been won by a margin of 2 or more Tests and ther last 3 series have all been won convincingly against top five teams, with the only close series a rain-ruined one against Sri Lanka. It's enough to suggest that the side has some modest talent. The series in India will show how good some of the younger players are and at squad depth.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    Is there any point pointing out that the first choice England attack of Tremlett, Anderson, Finn, Broad, Bresnan and Swann (not to mention reserves like Woakes, Onions, Panesar, etc) do not have conspicuously South African accents??

  • on October 13, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    they+will+ fall to 4th or 5th place soon in test rankings.they r nt much forward than other teams in rating points

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    @CricketingStargazer like to know how you consider a draw in SA a win, guess you are typical English clutching at straws!

  • on October 13, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Theres no point arguing. India - the fans rely on the 90 yr olds (SRT,ZK,VS etc) and they call this they're A team LOL. No talent coming through when you have to rely on the oldies?

  • CricketingStargazer on October 13, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    RandyOz, even if what you say were true, there is a reason why Australia have dropped down the rankings as they have. A few years ago they could take on a World XI and win. Now they can't. They were dreadful in India last autumn and then lost badly to England having briefly flattered for deceive for a couple of days early in the 1st Test. England have reached the top the hard way, playing Australia home and away, South Africa away and India at home. If that has been done with a multicultural side from a multicultural country, then so be it. It wan't so long ago that fans from another region were moaning that England were playing players like Panesar and Bopara. Welcome immigrants who can bring something positive to your country. Btw, if in your view South Africa "B" are hammering you, is there even any point turning up to play their First XI???

  • blastu on October 13, 2011, 9:20 GMT

    Just wait for 19 hours.....

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    @5wombats - is that EngLand or South Africa. I cant tell the difference these days.

  • jmcilhinney on October 13, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    @Raja Sekhar, I'm not sure whether that is intended to back up either of your previous statements but it does so for neither. I'm happy to admit that Eng are not the best ODI team and, on paper at least, that Ind are probably better, especially at home. That said, I think that to call them "very weak" is an exaggeration. Yes, they did lose some games that they should have won at the last WC but they also tied with Ind and beat SA. I'm fairly sure that a major factor in Eng's poor ODI performance in Aust and at the WC was "Ashes hangover". It's hard to say how big a factor it was but we all know Eng places most importance on test cricket and most importance on Ashes tests. That was such a big win that it would have been hard to get up for less important games afterwards. Remember that Aust thrashed Eng in the 2006/7 Ashes and England then beat them in the ODI comp. Now that Eng are focusing on ODIs, the cricket world should take note. They made #1 in tests after making that their goal.

  • 5wombats on October 13, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    @RandyOZ - Oh! you do talk some garbo. The only reason England didn't take the complete set of 60 wickets in the home series against Sri Lanka was because the rain stopped them. When the weather cleared India found out just how good England bowling is - perhaps you hadn't noticed that. If I were you I'd be focussing on why Australia took so few wickets at home against England, and why England took so many... LOL.

  • on October 13, 2011, 7:34 GMT

    In 50 over format they are very weak they lost to aus 1-6 and failed in wc 2011 even unble to beat ireland and ban.they won rain favoured series with india also

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    @ jmcilhinney - it's true, but its sad in this day and age you still need 2 contries (3 if you include SA) to beat us!

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 4:48 GMT

    @ jmcilhinney, clearly you don't read my posts at all because I compared both of our recent series - we took 50 wickets against SL in SL and you only took 52 at home. And this from the supposed best attack in the world? LOL problems at home?

  • jmcilhinney on October 13, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    @Raja Sekhar, You have a very strange definition of "almost the same". At no point in that series did England have more than 5 players in the team who will play in this series and sometimes only 4. At least 2 of those (Cook & Swann) are considerably improved since then. As for your statement about England "definitely" losing 0-4 if there was a test series, it's just words without anything at all to back it up. I definitely fly a purple aeroplane. As you can see, we can all make statements that, while possible, mean nothing without some evidence or even logic to back them up. If you've got some evidence to back up that statement then by all means provide it. Otherwise, your participation here is pretty much pointless.

  • jmcilhinney on October 13, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    Thanks Randy but, in your haste to repeat yourself again, you have failed with simple arithmetic. landl47 said 9/12 English-born. The 3 born OS are Kieswetter, Meaker and Stokes. The rest are English-born except Harris, who was born in Wales. Given that the England team is actually representing the England & Wales Cricket Board, I don't think even you could claim that there's anything untoward about him being selected.

  • on October 13, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    if england have test series in this tour they definitely loss by 0-4 to india .

  • on October 13, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    With almost same team they lost to india by 6-0 in last visit to india

  • jmcilhinney on October 13, 2011, 1:28 GMT

    I think it's clear that RandyOz believes that England have a better cricket team than Australia. Why else would an Australia fan loiter around so many England stories trying to convince England fans that they don't deserve their success? England have had a very successful summer and yet not a single comment on what they did well to win 2 test series, 2 ODI series and 2 of 4 T20I games. There's not even any comparison of England's performance relative to Australia. Clinging to the belief that the other team doesn't deserve to have won is the last bastion of the defeated. All should take note that, not that long ago, England were not considered a great test team. They decided they wanted to be #1 and now they are. I concede that England have not recently been great limited-overs team. They have decided that they want to be #1 there though too. As far as I can see, there's no specific reason to doubt that they will do it. It's not guaranteed and it won't be easy, but it's on the cards.

  • Trickstar on October 13, 2011, 1:09 GMT

    @sgh142 What a load of rubbish, whether you think he won't find his 50 over form back is debatable but the rest of what you've said is absolute garbage, especially since he's just come off the last series as the top scorer in it and in the last few tests he's hit 2 double tons and a 170. Last year he was the best player in the World T20 and has never looked anything but England's best player in that format, where he averages over 36 at a s/r of 143. Just because he's hasn't scored in the 2 warm ups, so what, he hasn't played in over 3 months and he hasn't ever scored in warm up games. But hey you probably know all this but just can't get past your own illogical dislike of someone you don't know and tbh your post was embarrassing but I couldn't help myself, haters gonna hate.

  • RandyOZ on October 13, 2011, 0:34 GMT

    @ landl47, I hate to break it to you mate but Stokes is a Kiwi. LOL

  • SDHM on October 12, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    @ Raja - also remember the performances against India and South Africa!

  • CricketingStargazer on October 12, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    Land47, Steve Finn (22yo, 12 Tests)? Adil Rashid (5xODI; 5xT20) misses out because he is now 23, but eveyone forgets Steve Finn is only 22.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 12, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    kevinpp24, you appear not to be a cricket fan, at least by your comments; eithe that or you have read something out of context and lost it. Greatness as a player is defined by how you deal with failure and a slump in form, not by waltzing through your career unchallenged. Cook and Strauss have both known failure and seen how their places in the team have been questioned and even lost and they have come back better for it. Strauss was in such desperate form a few years ago that very few fans wanted him to play intenational cricket again saying that he had proved that he wasn't good enough. Jonny Bairstow will not cream hundreds in every innings. He will fail sometimes. He will have whole series when he scatches for runs: that's when we'll see how good he is really. Kieswetter lost his place and has come back better for it, I hope that Bairstow could do the same!

  • on October 12, 2011, 16:01 GMT

    @steve19191 INDIA ALSO WON THEIR WARM-UPS IN ENGLAND (3 GAMES) , ENGLAND FANS HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT? INDIA DID NOT FACE A WEAK COUNTY IN TEST WARM-UPS AND THE LOSS WAS NOT OUTRIGHT (CHECK SCORECARD) SO STOP HALLUCINATING!

  • hhillbumper on October 12, 2011, 15:52 GMT

    RandyOz where was Kepler Wessels born mate. Just a little bit outside of Perth wasn't it.It is called having a multi cultural society.May be you should try it and you might have some better players than the narrow group you pick from.

  • on October 12, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    india will beat england by 5-0.In indian condition they are very weak .just+remember their performance+ in wc 2011 with srilanka,ireland,bangladesh.

  • kevinpp24 on October 12, 2011, 14:04 GMT

    So if somebody named Rahane comes in and edges some fours you call it talent but when somebody named Bairstow comes in and destroys bowlers standing in his way you say "reality check will come". May be people are jealous of Englands emerging talents, if its the case then get ready for more we got loads of them. The meaning of these warmups for England fans like me is to see if our youngsters cope with the heat which they might not even been through in their lives. If they aren't afected by heat then get ready for the thrashing guys. Come on ENGLAND, shut these people once and for all.

  • landl47 on October 12, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    OK, jonesy2 and RandyOz, here's the challenge: for every quality Aus prospect you can name, I'll name 3 quality England prospects. Prospects must be 23 or under, and just so neither of us picks names out of a hat, they must have played at least 10 first-class games. If England's future is so bleak, it should be easy for you. I'll get you started: you say Hughes, I say Kieswetter, Borthwick and Woakes. You say: (sorry, can't think of any more), I say Hales, Meaker and Stokes. You say: (still can't think of any), I say Bairstow, Buttler and Briggs. You say: (nope, drawing a blank here), I say Taylor, Harris and Kerrigan. Oh, and RandyOz, I've named 9 English-born players so far out of the 12 and the first 10 have all been picked for full England squads. Get the idea? Off you go!

  • Gazzypops on October 12, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    Based on the last time England played India in their own backyard, I'd say the scoreline will be 0-0 with all five games tied.

  • bumsonseats on October 12, 2011, 12:41 GMT

    see randy and jonesy have joined us again. nice to see u guys with your common sense views. as i told pup and binga we would win both the build up games, punter was not so sure we would. u guys are priceless. dpk

  • RandyOZ on October 12, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    Well done SA, you will still get smashed in India.

  • YorkshirePudding on October 12, 2011, 12:36 GMT

    @IJKE, I agree a lot of Hyperbole, and some of it in 'revenge' for a lot of the dross that was posted by Indian fans when thier team was dooing badly, I seem to remember a lot of comments about even Indian club sides would take this england team apart, so there is a bit of gloating. Personally I think england will need to step up another gear against a full Indian international side, and we might see some very close and tense matches in the coming weeks.

  • sgh142 on October 12, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    Please, please, please retire from international cricket Pietersen, you are not needed in any form of the game now, there are much better players waiting to come in and you are holding up their progress. Go back to Surrey and enjoy the county cricket you detest so much!.

    Failing that, Flower do the right thing and Drop for good. Useless!!!

  • JG2704 on October 12, 2011, 12:04 GMT

    - I don't think any of us English fans are ecstatic because we have beaten a second string side in a warm up match - albeit by a comprehensive margin. But surely you (if in our shoes) would be more optimistic about the REAL games after performing well and showing improvement in the warm up games. If the Indian fans were a little more gracious in defeat - not necessarily meaning that they credit England , but at least blamed their own players/selection etc rather than the odd injury which is exaggerated to become half the team or weather/pitch conditions which any team has to adapt to as even county grounds vary within the same country etc etc - then I reckon most of the English fans would not bother mentioning the mauling India got over here.Besides Z Khan I'd say India were within a player of being full strenth for every match. Also Zaheer's absence was not crucial to the batting where they (except Dravid and maybe MSD) failed in every match despite being full strength in most games

  • CricketingStargazer on October 12, 2011, 11:47 GMT

    Wise words from @IKJE! It's better to win than to lose, but when the opposition is so weak, you don't know how good you are and how well really you are playing. We'll see on Friday. I like the look of Borthwick and Bairstow, but reality will kick in for them at some point, as it did with Eoin Morgan and, before him, KP and Andrew Strauss and Alistair Cook and...

  • JG2704 on October 12, 2011, 11:41 GMT

    @Jonesy2 - Even if England were devoid of up and coming talent - which is extremely debatable esp looking at how Dernbach , Bairstow etc have been performing recently in ODI's - their 1st 11 is still realtively young and even the older players (KP,Strauss/Swann..) don't need to be replaced for several years. Can't remember which pundit said this but until very recent years a player knew that if he got a chance and didn't perform , that there would be more chances to get back in. Now it seems that as a player it is more crucial to make the most of any opportunity and keep your place in the side. I mean look at the bowling situation (in tests) for example. Finn did little wrong and was replaced by Bresnan (or was it Tremlett) one replaced the injured Broad. Anyway Finn hasn't got a look in in the test side. Even worse for Tremlett who was out through injury and has not got a look in since.

  • Wharfeseamer on October 12, 2011, 10:22 GMT

    There's a lot of hyperbole on this thread about Engalnd this and India that.

    Frankly, until we see how Friday's game goes,to paraphrase a term used often by Bairstow's father David, we know three quarters of seven eights of s*d all

  • steve19191 on October 12, 2011, 10:18 GMT

    Oh well, another game in India another win.....what the Indians would have given for that in the UK a short while ago, even against the second string of one of the weakest counties in the uk they were still humiliated..

    My prediction is 4-1 to England......would have been 5-0 but think the guys will become as bored as we are beating the third rate Indian team.

  • Yevghenny on October 12, 2011, 10:04 GMT

    These aussies on here don't know what to do with themselves. Watching Bresnan, Jimmy, Tremlett and Swann who tore through Australia/India time and time again, and then being forced to sit through days of their own bowlers waddling up to the crease to bowl like they're in the nets, it must be hard to get your head round, but it's something you're gonna have to get used to I'm afraid

  • Lmaotsetung on October 12, 2011, 9:53 GMT

    Meaker is like what, 10th in line for the 3rd seamer's spot? Yup, cupboard is really bare.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 12, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    @Chiggers, India's problems were similar to England's in Australia in 2006/07. "We don't need to practice because we'e too good to get better". I dislike intensely counties putting out 2nd XIs against touring opposition: it's an insult.It's a measure though of India's attitude to the tour that their results were poor even against weakened sides. Mind you, it's a worldwide issue. Last winter, as England dominated their wam-ups, we were assured that the opposition had been cherry-picked to be as weak as possible and set the tourists up for when the real games started.

  • Bramblefly on October 12, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Jonesy2 - It still hurts doesn't it?

  • hhillbumper on October 12, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Jonesey 2. Still feeling a bit tense after the winter are we? When Phil Hughes is the cream of the young players in Aus I would expect the silence to be deafening

  • Clive_Dunn on October 12, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    @Gazelle. You are correct, it is your backyard. It's just a shame you left your reputation and no.1 test status in ours.

  • brittop on October 12, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    @gazelle79: Surely you realise why England fans are posting as they are about this win. Whilst it mat not be you, it's because of the postings of a lot of Indian fans, throughout the tour of England and still going on, that England are in fact complete rubbish, and India did not win an international match in England because England doctored the pitches so only English players could play on them and fixed the weather against India. And when England came to India, any team of Indian cricketers could thrash England. That's the reason for the English hyperbole now.

  • RandyOZ on October 12, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    @jonesy2 - thats why they import from South Africa. Its a 10 year drought in their own backyard!

  • blastu on October 12, 2011, 8:38 GMT

    @5wombats:- did u watched england vs aus odi match dec 2010, what happens to england? Stop worrying about past indian team performance. start worry about odi series in india. we r going to thrash english.

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on October 12, 2011, 8:23 GMT

    @jonesy2 - ' things looks pretty bleak for englands future ' ha ha ha ' doesn't seem to be any young players coming through ' HA HA HA ' and looking like quality internationals ' H A H A H A H A !!! True comedy genius , eat your heart out Paul Hogan !

  • KFR59 on October 12, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    @ jonesy2 "ive got to say despite this annihilation things look pretty bleak for englands future there doesnt seem to be any young players coming through and looking like quality internationals. i guess thats always been the way though. "

    Erm, what are you talking about? No young players emerging for England? England will go on to dominate all 3 formats of the game for years to come. There is so much talent coming through and has been for awhile now.

  • gazelle79 on October 12, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    @5wombats , my hindsight is getting along quite well , thank you . As a matter of fact , my foresight was also quite decent . Before the England series , when my friends were looking forward to India doing well , I was telling them that the series should be tough because England are in good form in Tests . When Zaheer got injured on the first morning of the first Test , my foresight told me - "there goes this test ". Without going into all the details , I'll just say that I wasn't one of the "India will thrash England " group . My comment here wasn't about England's ability . It was about the perception of England's ability by some of the feedbackers based on their showing in this match . Who said this match was inconsequential ? This match will show the players who are adapting better to the conditions . That , however is no guarantee of success when the ODIs start , because the lewvel of opposition also rises . My prediction ? 4-1 to India . This IS our backyard .

  • DINESHCC on October 12, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ENGLISH AND PAKISTAN FANS ARE JUMPING HERE AND THERE. ABOUT ONE YEAR BACK THIS HYDERABAD TEAM WAS BUNDLED OUT FOR 26 RUNS AGAINST RAJASTHAN AND ENGLAND TEAM ALSO BEATEN THIS GREAT HYDERABAD TEAM. THATS ALL.

  • on October 12, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    The main problems in the ODI series for India in England were the 5th bowler and bowling in the wet conditions (for spinners). Now India has Jadeja(made a good impact last two ODI'S in England) and conditions would be dry. The batting is even more deep now with Rahul who can also bat. Infact all the 11 players in the team can bat decently. England has been weakened by the absence of Strauss, Broad and Morgan(last WC). Kieswetter and Bairstow are good replacements but Broad cannot be replaced. The England team had a slight edge in the ODI series at home. All of them were last over affairs. But now India will have that edge. Let us see what will happen. I think it will be atleast 3-2 for India if not 4-1 or 5-0.

  • on October 12, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    Well the English fans seem to be celebrating a victory over Hyderabad 11 which is already a weak team and which is further weakened by the absence of PP Ojha and Suman playing in the Challenger trophy. But you guys must remember that England is playing this team only because of their first match is scheduled in Hyderabad and beacuse of the Challenger trophy. If you look at the Hyd team very few of them played more than 5 list A matches and those who are experienced are not great talents either. None of them is good enough to reperesent even the South India-11 at present. The India-11 England will be facing is now stronger with the return of Gambhir. My 11 would be Gambhir,Patel,Rahane,Kohli,Dhoni,Raina,Jadeja,Ashwin,Praveen,Vinay/Varun.

  • kevinpp24 on October 12, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    India wasn't as superior as they were supposed to be. Their bowling is worse all over the world, all they do is field some hitters and attack the weak bowlers which is their plan in recent years. So if we produce players like Bairstow then with our superior bowling we will dominate India in India for years to come. Remember they dont have decent enough spinners even in domestic circuit. Luck or fairytale or potential or whatever you may call it, its getting over for India, get ready to face the music in coming years. Oh wait, BCCI may ban Green tops and Fast bowling from world cricket lolz. @ MADDY you guys can keep on saying that till 3011 may be you will get a decent fast bowler by that time.

  • Percy_Fender on October 12, 2011, 4:25 GMT

    Cannot wait to see Bairstow play.

  • jonesy2 on October 12, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    ive got to say despite this annihilation things look pretty bleak for englands future there doesnt seem to be any young players coming through and looking like quality internationals. i guess thats always been the way though.

  • jmcilhinney on October 12, 2011, 2:14 GMT

    @Blake Houston, I just about concur with your XI except it's going to be hard to get Anderson over from England in time ;-) I think Finn deserves a run in that slot. I'd be keeping a very close eye on the bowling in that first game because Woakes could easily come in for Dernbach if he gets carted, which would also strengthen the batting. Bresnan may be the most senior bowler but he also can't afford to be too expensive, although his batting is an advantage too. With Bopara available as a bowler, I'd also not be disappointed to see one paceman left out and Borthwick brought in if a track is particularly susceptible to spin, which might include every match.

  • on October 12, 2011, 1:11 GMT

    England should move Bairstow up to 4 because he can change a match like he did today and he strikes the ball so well and scores so quickly he is a very dangerous player, while it is good to have someone like that to finish an innings i think he needs to be able to have the chance to make a bigger score, and with his strike rate often touching 200 who knows how many runs he could score if given 40 or so overs, my XI for 1st ODI would be : Cook(capt), Kieswetter(wk), Trott, Bairstow, Pieterson, Bopara, Patel, Bresnan, Swann, Anderson, Dernbach

  • on October 12, 2011, 1:11 GMT

    and who exactly will give england this 'tougher challenge' ???

  • jmcilhinney on October 12, 2011, 0:12 GMT

    If some England fans appear to be crowing over this victory, I expect that it's mostly in response to those India fans crowing over England's imminent demise after the last game. These games were not about the results but about England acclimatising to Indian conditions. On this evidence, mission accomplished. Positives: 1 Cook continues to bat with intent and ability; 2 Keiswetter continues to develop an all-around game; 3 Trott still in form and looking to score quickly; 4 Bairstow looking very dangerous; 5 Borthwick showing signs that there is a successor to Swann; 6 Meaker also taking wickets. Negatives: 1 KP out cheaply again to left-arm spin again; 2 With Broad out it might have been nice to see Woakes have more impact with the ball. All up, England look ready to give India a decent run for their money. I'd rank India favourites but I expect England to be competitive, win at least one game and possibly the series.

  • wrenx on October 11, 2011, 22:42 GMT

    Really need to stop making excuses for India's poor all-round cricket. Conditions be damned; Pakistan came to England in 2010 and even amongst the acrimony and disaster of that tour, they still managed to bag a Test win and two ODIs in a losing cause against essentially the same England side that India faced this year. This coming series is only going one way. Unless the weather gets involved, expect it to go 5-0 to England. Why? Because England are a better side than India right now. Simple as that.

  • Yevghenny on October 11, 2011, 22:20 GMT

    the counties gave india a game in every match, in fact, I think India only won two one dayers. Got hammered in the longer version. Saw them milling around at taunton and thought "oh well they're just taking it easy I guess..."

  • chiggers on October 11, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    @CricketingStarGazer - 'This seems to be the new norm for warm-up matches: give the touring side the bare minimum of preparation against the weakest possible opposition which has no motivation to take the game seriously.'. Yes that's what the counties did in the warm-ups for the Indian tour over here - and India still couldn't win...

  • chiggers on October 11, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    Maybe the Indian fans are so quiet because they have finally run out of excuses (apart from 'The dog ate my homework', which I haven't seen used yet but may yet appear as a last resort) and that grim reality is beginning to dawn on them...

  • on October 11, 2011, 21:41 GMT

    Congrats on the Great knock mate!! The real test comes when face the Senior indian Team.. u are right at the competition, that means Kewsitter should be struggling to find the place in final XI

  • TibbyAde on October 11, 2011, 21:24 GMT

    @maddy20. You're right England are getting excited about beating a team of club cricketers, after all we've now had about 3 months of playing against them and the thrill of winning is the same as it was here in England. Look on the bright side, now you're at home you should at least expect to win one game. I guess that's why you were all saying 'wait until you come to India'. Home sweet home eh?

  • YorkshirePudding on October 11, 2011, 21:11 GMT

    @davidpk, and maddy20, couldnt agree more, these games were the equivalent of england playing the unicorns. The main event starting on the 14th will be a much sterner test. Winning begets winning, the England camp will have taken some confidence out of these games, and had a look at a couple of the fringe players in foreign conditions, Bairstow seems to be showing hes a class act, and I hope he continues his form in the main series.. For those crowing about England winning, hold fire until we've beaten the Indian International side.

  • on October 11, 2011, 20:48 GMT

    LOL i have moved on from india's cricket disaster, even a idiot can realize they are ordinary. Rugby?

  • 5wombats on October 11, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    @gazelle79; your comments look challenging but are hard to take seriously. If this Hyderabad game was so inconsequential - why are you commenting on it? Why are you even looking at it? Regarding your comment about "English fans want to use this victory as a proof of their superiority over India" - why would we need to do that? Just look at the last 11 cricket matches between india and England... yes, that's right, india haven't won any of them. England don't need to hammer some team representing Hyderabad to "prove superiority" - the last 11 international games tell us everything we need to know; Played 11 won 0. Throughout the English Summer indians were constantly telling us what their "number one test team" and "ODI World Champions" were going to do to us - and look what happened. As you rightly say; "Delusions are free at first , but costly in hindsight". So @gazelle79 - how is your "hindsight"? Had it tested recently?

  • maddy20 on October 11, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    @A_Vacant_Slip Big deal beating a depleted team in your own backyard. When was the last time England won a test series in India? India has last beaten you poms in 2007 in England. Come October 14 you will be begging for mercy. You can then party big time!

  • A_Vacant_Slip on October 11, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    No @maddy20, you got it all wrong. The real tests were on Jul 21-25, 2011. India lost. Jul 29-Aug 1, 2011. India lost. Aug 10-13, 2011. India lost. Aug 18-22, 2011. India lost. Aug 31, 2011. India lost. Sep 6, 2011. India Lost. Sep 9, 2011. India Lost. Sep 16, 2011. India Lost. So, you see @maddy20, when the real tests came along - India Lost. 8 times actually. We England fans know how to party, don't we?

  • voma on October 11, 2011, 19:10 GMT

    Well for a start England can only play and try and beat the team put in front of them . I honestly do not understand why India have not played some of there younger players , guys that show promise . When touring sides come to England and play the counties , they are at least competitive . I cant wait for the ODI s to start , oh and then start hearing all the excuses .

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on October 11, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    Would Any Indian Fans on these boards care to comment on yet another total thrashing by England. Or try to respond to the comments that are being made on this article? Why are England now winning in India? Wasn't it a case before of 'just wait till England come to India' (despite the 18-0 or whatever is was)?

    Well played England again, you'd have to say...

  • bumsonseats on October 11, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    guys dont get to much up ourselves.there will be hard days ahead. as at home india are not the meek players they were during our summer. but it is nice to see england winning well, but we are only doing what international teams should be doing. dpk

  • JustIPL on October 11, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    I dont think it was a wise decision by India to play a second string side against announced test champions and unannounced ODI champions. India have to accept defeat tasted in England and should have taken every opportunity to keep facing the tough opponent. Anyway, England are continuing their enormous form and will re arrange the ODI rankings as well.

  • gazelle79 on October 11, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    Surprising how many English fans are ecstatic at the way this team beat Hyd XI . This was a decent warm up , but that was all it was . Look at the level of opposition . Hyderabad plays in the second rung of the Indian first class circuit - the Plate League ; and made history by being bowled out for 21 in an innings last year ! Not a single member of the side is remotely in contention for the ongoing Challenger series , which is played between teams made up of 42 emerging or fringe players with a smattering of first team players . If the English fans want to use this victory as a proof of their superiority over India , they are welcome to . Delusions are free at first , but costly in hindsight .

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on October 11, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    "Maybe the guys who paint the clubhouse bowled and the chap who makes the sandwiches opened the batting." nice one, Scritty. That made me chuckle :)

  • Toon-Harmy on October 11, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    Nice to see a couple of the younger England lads turn in such good shows abroad, albeit in a warm-up game, and particularly pleasing to see Borthwick in the wickets as a Durham fan. While it would be nice to see England triumph in this series, I don't regard the result as being of paramount importance (unlike the summer's Test series when achieving No1 Test status was a clearly-defined goal for Flower, Strauss and co). No, the main objective surely has to be starting to develop the nucleus of a squad for the next World Cup and hopefully some of the younger players chosen for this trip can take the opportunity to stake their claims.

  • maddy20 on October 11, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    Its time for English fans to get excited after thumping a band of local club cricketers. the real test begins on 14th. Till then feel happy!

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 11, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    I was told England would be humiliated by India in India......LOL! 54 ball ton for the new Gilchrist, 5/31 for the new Warnie and 3 wickets for the new Lee.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 11, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    This seems to be the new norm for warm-up matches: give the touring side the bare minimum of preparation against the weakest possible opposition which has no motivation to take the game seriously. The only problem is that you can end up playing them into form and confidence, as happened to England in Australia last winter. Anyway, full marks to the team for taking advantage of the situation.

  • on October 11, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    This Hyderbad side is hardly a challenging opponent with India's best players involved in the NKP Salve tournament. At best the Hyderbad XI could be considered India's 4th Team, in reality it's probably not even close to that. It's nice for England to get used to the heat etc but I worry about their batting in the first game.

  • landl47 on October 11, 2011, 17:03 GMT

    LOL @chiggers- nice one. Obviously the result was meaningless, but it is good to see that most of England's top 6 have now had some time in the middle, albeit against some pretty inadequate opposition. Borthwick and Meaker made the most of their opportunity and Bairstow showed he is a fine striker of the ball. Not much to learn from this, really; the only real question seems to be whether Bairstow will play, and if so, who will he displace?

  • allblue on October 11, 2011, 17:02 GMT

    England's crisis just keeps getting worse. They may as well just pack up and go home now.

  • gloves71 on October 11, 2011, 16:40 GMT

    @chiggers Nail and head, mate.

  • scritty on October 11, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    I've not even heard of half this England team, yet - as predictable as the sun rising -they trounce a team from India. I can only suppose they are deliberately putting out none cricketers against England. Maybe the guys who paint the clubhouse bowled and the chap who makes the sandwiches opened the batting. Who knows - but this game was so one sided as to be ridiculous. And the guys who starred for England? I'd never heard of them till 3 weeks ago. Well done you young England lads - whoever you are. It seems you just need to turn up in an England sweater to beat any team in India. I might tour there next year - with my 92 year old grandfather - it might be an equal contest then

  • Hattrick_Capes on October 11, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    Pietersen out to a left arm spinner... What. A. Shock.

  • cyniket on October 11, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    i think this series would be a great opportunity to have a look at finn, meaker and borthwick in tandem, as they are very talented and likely to form the nucleus of the england attack in 4 or 5 years.

  • ashes61 on October 11, 2011, 16:29 GMT

    A professional approach involving rigorous training and thorough preparation, regardless of the strength or otherwise of the opposition (as seen in Oz last winter, but not by India in England this summer) is once again auguring well. ENG can only play the team put up against them - admittedly a very weak one - and they have applied themselves to the task & brushed them aside, giving several young understudies an opportunity. I applaud Flower's approach to these preliminaries - it worked last time and should do again. Although India's 1st XI will be a much sterner test (tho' surely the big four, all in terminal decline whether injured or not, won't be seen again, as their young successors deserve their chance to continue) it seems inconceivabel that Indian conditions or home advantage will be sufficient to overturn the massive disparity between the sides so far this year, even if England blood the kids.

    No predictions for the 5 ODIs - but it's England's to chuck away, isn't it?

  • kevinpp24 on October 11, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    What a win! I know its against week side but I'm happy about their warm-ups. I always wondered will England be able to produce somebody who will hit sixes for fun, they did but took a lot of time but better late than never and more over they are producing bunch of similar hitters which is great. If this guy produces atleast one similar inngs then there is no way England will be whitewashed. Both Bairstow and Borthwick did well but I have lot of confidence in Bairstow to do the same against Indian side. I'm sure KP will do well when real game starts and I really like to see Kieswetter rotating the strike better.

  • 5wombats on October 11, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    Hang on a minute - weren't we assured that England were utterly useless? Weren't we told that England batsmen would all fall in a heap the moment they saw an indian spin bowler? SO how then did England utterly thrash this bowling for 367/4? Weren't we also told, loudly, that England bowlers would be completely ineffective in indian conditions? Weren't we told - that indian batsmen would totally plunder any spin bowling offered? SO how then did England manage to take 7 wickets with spin - and none of those by Swann, who wasn't even playing. Weren't we also told that fast bowling would be useless againist indians on indian surfaces? that "brains" would be required? How then did Finn take a shed load of wickets the other day, and Meaker today? How is all this possible? Surely the indian fans have been right all along, surely despite india losing in the Summer - England in reality are hopeless. Could it be that some indian fans have underestimated England (again)? No, surely not.....

  • scritty on October 11, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    I'm sitting here waiting with two things on my mind. One - how long it will be untill this is described in some way as a moral victory for India, and Two - how beating INdia and teams from INdia is getting very dull. My wife who has only a passing interest in cricket asked yesterday "India again? Haven't we beatedn them loads of times already in the past few weeks". My sentiments are heading that way. This whole England India stuff is becoming a very dull ond overly prolonged one sided UBER beating of MASSIVE proprtions.

  • on October 11, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    Now, I can guess the response from those Indians who were aggressive against England after 1st warm up despite the fact that England won comfortably. Now, they would say, oh wait, England have just thrashed a club level team. So, no importance at all. Lollllllll. Why are they ignorant???

  • Yevghenny on October 11, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    "But tougher challenges await" - yep, gonna be tricky playing Pakistan somewhere we've not played cricket before

  • chiggers on October 11, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Well, this all seems to be going to the script that the Indian fans predicted - the batsmen rack up loads of runs against an attack that is totally unable to exploit the conditions, and then the bowlers run through a side completely unequipped to handle quality spin on low slow turning pitches. Even the team's second-string players will be too good for what is put in front of them, and will comprehensively rout the opposition.

    Have I got that right? Oh, wait...

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  • chiggers on October 11, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Well, this all seems to be going to the script that the Indian fans predicted - the batsmen rack up loads of runs against an attack that is totally unable to exploit the conditions, and then the bowlers run through a side completely unequipped to handle quality spin on low slow turning pitches. Even the team's second-string players will be too good for what is put in front of them, and will comprehensively rout the opposition.

    Have I got that right? Oh, wait...

  • Yevghenny on October 11, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    "But tougher challenges await" - yep, gonna be tricky playing Pakistan somewhere we've not played cricket before

  • on October 11, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    Now, I can guess the response from those Indians who were aggressive against England after 1st warm up despite the fact that England won comfortably. Now, they would say, oh wait, England have just thrashed a club level team. So, no importance at all. Lollllllll. Why are they ignorant???

  • scritty on October 11, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    I'm sitting here waiting with two things on my mind. One - how long it will be untill this is described in some way as a moral victory for India, and Two - how beating INdia and teams from INdia is getting very dull. My wife who has only a passing interest in cricket asked yesterday "India again? Haven't we beatedn them loads of times already in the past few weeks". My sentiments are heading that way. This whole England India stuff is becoming a very dull ond overly prolonged one sided UBER beating of MASSIVE proprtions.

  • 5wombats on October 11, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    Hang on a minute - weren't we assured that England were utterly useless? Weren't we told that England batsmen would all fall in a heap the moment they saw an indian spin bowler? SO how then did England utterly thrash this bowling for 367/4? Weren't we also told, loudly, that England bowlers would be completely ineffective in indian conditions? Weren't we told - that indian batsmen would totally plunder any spin bowling offered? SO how then did England manage to take 7 wickets with spin - and none of those by Swann, who wasn't even playing. Weren't we also told that fast bowling would be useless againist indians on indian surfaces? that "brains" would be required? How then did Finn take a shed load of wickets the other day, and Meaker today? How is all this possible? Surely the indian fans have been right all along, surely despite india losing in the Summer - England in reality are hopeless. Could it be that some indian fans have underestimated England (again)? No, surely not.....

  • kevinpp24 on October 11, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    What a win! I know its against week side but I'm happy about their warm-ups. I always wondered will England be able to produce somebody who will hit sixes for fun, they did but took a lot of time but better late than never and more over they are producing bunch of similar hitters which is great. If this guy produces atleast one similar inngs then there is no way England will be whitewashed. Both Bairstow and Borthwick did well but I have lot of confidence in Bairstow to do the same against Indian side. I'm sure KP will do well when real game starts and I really like to see Kieswetter rotating the strike better.

  • ashes61 on October 11, 2011, 16:29 GMT

    A professional approach involving rigorous training and thorough preparation, regardless of the strength or otherwise of the opposition (as seen in Oz last winter, but not by India in England this summer) is once again auguring well. ENG can only play the team put up against them - admittedly a very weak one - and they have applied themselves to the task & brushed them aside, giving several young understudies an opportunity. I applaud Flower's approach to these preliminaries - it worked last time and should do again. Although India's 1st XI will be a much sterner test (tho' surely the big four, all in terminal decline whether injured or not, won't be seen again, as their young successors deserve their chance to continue) it seems inconceivabel that Indian conditions or home advantage will be sufficient to overturn the massive disparity between the sides so far this year, even if England blood the kids.

    No predictions for the 5 ODIs - but it's England's to chuck away, isn't it?

  • cyniket on October 11, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    i think this series would be a great opportunity to have a look at finn, meaker and borthwick in tandem, as they are very talented and likely to form the nucleus of the england attack in 4 or 5 years.

  • Hattrick_Capes on October 11, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    Pietersen out to a left arm spinner... What. A. Shock.

  • scritty on October 11, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    I've not even heard of half this England team, yet - as predictable as the sun rising -they trounce a team from India. I can only suppose they are deliberately putting out none cricketers against England. Maybe the guys who paint the clubhouse bowled and the chap who makes the sandwiches opened the batting. Who knows - but this game was so one sided as to be ridiculous. And the guys who starred for England? I'd never heard of them till 3 weeks ago. Well done you young England lads - whoever you are. It seems you just need to turn up in an England sweater to beat any team in India. I might tour there next year - with my 92 year old grandfather - it might be an equal contest then