India v England, 3rd ODI, Mohali October 20, 2011

India seal series in stiff run-chase

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India 300 for 5 (Rahane 91) beat England 298 for 4 (Trott 98*, Patel 70*) by five wickets
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MS Dhoni was India's matchwinner once again, as he marshalled an asking-rate approaching ten an over to seal an unassailable 3-0 series lead in the third ODI at Mohali. With Ravindra Jadeja alongside him, he clubbed Tim Bresnan for consecutive boundaries in the final over of the match to finish unbeaten on 35 from 31 balls, as England's best total of the series - 298 for 4 - proved insufficient to keep the series alive.

It was a sloppy fielding display from England in a match they could and should have won. Their own total had been built on another sheet-anchor performance from Jonathan Trott, who finished unbeaten on 98 from 116 balls, but the point-of-difference innings had been played by Samit Patel, whose career-best 70 from 43 balls enabled England to add 91 runs in their final ten overs. Given the history of chasing at Mohali - only five teams had previously managed it in 19 matches at the venue - their route back into the series was awaiting them.

Instead, they produced a listless defence, with Ajinkya Rahane cruising along to 91 from 104 balls in a second-wicket stand of 111 with Gautam Gambhir. They managed just one wicket in the first 34 overs - a marginal lbw against Parthiv Patel, which broke an opening partnership of 79 - and though they rallied well to claim four wickets in an eight-over spell of dominance, their failure to take their chances cost them dear in the closing stages.

The most culpable man was the wicketkeeper, Craig Kieswetter, who missed an early chance to remove Gambhir on 17, before dropping Virat Kohli off a Jade Dernbach bouncer at a crucial juncture. Kohli had been struggling to impose himself and should have gone for 4 from 12 balls, only for Kieswetter to spill the catch as his elbows hit the turf. Worse was to follow, however, when he trod on the stumps while attempting to run out Jadeja with 12 balls of the match remaining, and 17 runs still needed.

That final error unsettled the under-pressure bowler Dernbach, who had earlier shown his frustration when Tim Bresnan let a four fly through his legs at backward point. He finished his spell with a wide and a no-ball beamer in an over that went for 10 runs, moments after Steven Finn - who had bowled superbly to concede 31 runs from his first nine overs - had been battered for 13 runs in his tenth.

Regardless of England's shortcomings, it was another hugely impressive display from India's batsmen, with Rahane setting the game up superbly with the second half-century of his fledgling career. He picked off six fours in his innings - mostly through deft steers behind square - but the most telling feature of his innings was the ease with which he and Gambhir rotated the strike in the fallow middle overs. England were powerless to react as the gaps in their field were pinched at will, and it wasn't until a rare misjudgement from Gambhir led to an impressive one-handed catch from Kevin Pietersen at cover that they found a foothold in the game.

That wicket was due reward for another probing and pacey spell from Finn, and he doubled his tally three overs later when Rahane's quest for a maiden hundred ended in a leading edge to Alastair Cook at mid-off. Suresh Raina then drilled Bresnan to cover for a third-ball duck to tilt the balance of power firmly in England's direction, and when Kohli was trapped lbw by a sharp turner from Graeme Swann, India had slumped to 235 for 5 with nine overs remaining, and that target of 299 suddenly seemed a long way off. In the end though, Dhoni and Jadeja picked it off with aplomb.

England owed their shot at victory to another solipsistic performance from Trott, whose tempo is immoveable regardless of the format of the game. This was his first significant innings since being named the ICC Cricketer of the Year, and it was a reprisal of the role he had played at the World Cup in March. He picked off eight boundaries after coming to the crease in the fourth over of the innings following the loss of Cook for 3, and was denied his fourth ODI hundred by a sharp piece of fielding at short fine leg, when he paddle-swept the penultimate ball of the innings for a single. Though he missed out on his milestone, the net gain was England's, as Samit Patel blazed Vinay Kumar's final ball of the innings into the long-on stands for six.

The debate will rage about Trott's approach to one-day cricket, but seeing as England collapsed in a heap in the first two matches, the backbone he provided to this performance was self-evident. Both of his major partners - Pietersen, who made 64 from 61 balls, and Patel - thrived on the right to go for their strokes, with Patel instrumental in belting 43 runs from the final 24 deliveries of England's innings. With his place under threat after two inconsequential displays in the early part of the series, this was a timely reminder of his combative qualities, as he was pushed up to No. 6 ahead of Jonny Bairstow.

Pietersen, meanwhile, produced his best one-day innings for many a month. He and Trott came together with England wobbling on 53 for 2, but the pair soon settled into a comfortable accumulative rhythm. Pietersen glanced his second ball through fine leg for four, and later launched a calculated assault on the swing of Praveen Kumar, who was bludgeoned for four fours in consecutive overs. He had a familiar aberration when the left-arm spin of Jadeja entered the attack, and would have run his partner out for 32 had the shy from midwicket been anywhere near Dhoni's gloves. As it transpired, however, it was England's own failure to run out Jadeja later in the game that would prove to be the decisive error.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    The best Test Team in the world should beat or survive away series at any cost - without excuses like injuries, burn out etc. In past few away series India had outdone Australia, New Zeeland, West Indies & England(last series) & managed to draw South Africa for the first time. Now England's Numero Uno status will become undisputed only when they win Test series in India next year. Before that Pakistan will be waiting for the "Rank 1" English team with some quality spin in January.

    Ricky Ponting will never be great a Captain in the eyes of Indian fans because he never won a Test match in India leave his behaviour at the infamous Sydney Test neither will be Steve Waugh who lost his "Final Frontier"

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | October 23, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    When the series began, England was my favourite to win. They had brought quite a good team and India had picked a bowling attack short on experience . Though I am an Indian fan, I am surprised at the defeats. Sure England had their chances but they failed to take them, and that matters. I think the problem for England is their ambivalence to the game, and also the fact that in the sub-continent, they seem to be out of their comfort zone.Also their methods are pretty outdated. Over the years, the 50 over game has acquired a dynamic of its own and England seem not to have picked up on it. They are playing a game which would have made them champions 10 years ago. They are poor in rotating the strike. This is strange for England which 1st came up with this short version of the game. This is where Australia are better. They give priority both to Test cricket and they play good LOI cricket. England, notwithstanding T20 World Cup are an ordinary LOI team with outdated gameplans and methods.

  • POSTED BY bhrangi on | October 23, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @JG2704: Really world cup is not a pinnacle for urs ??? then y england is playing ODIs., then wats England's Pinnacle ?? football hu LOL .,., as u said Time will tell , how long England remain at number 1 , lets see after the Srilanka and pakistan test series. Guys england is good in test we agree that and its only in home ., dont talk abt ashes against depleted Australia - main players just before the series retired .,accept the defeat and may be after pak and Srilanka series u guys lose interest in test too.,

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    Fair enough mister let's see , I have to accept English team will be the bestvisiting test team to India in recent times

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 23, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    @dicky_boy - We're talking more decades than years ago when India won the WC in England and the English see Test matches as the real yardstick of cricket and therefore world cups are not the pinnacle for us. Time will tell , how long England remain at number 1 but right now they are number 1 and it is only your opinion that they'll lose that ranking quickly.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    Well said full blooded wallop very sensible comments respect mate!

  • POSTED BY Full-Blooded-Wallop on | October 23, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    Lots of insensible comments from both sides. People even claiming no side is no-1. Seriously ? ICC is not a fool to develop a ranking system, then according to you people, the teams with lower no of wins and lower points should top the table,yeah? Truth is that India were no-1 because they were better than all the other sides, and now england is no-1 due to the same reason. People say, these two teams are home-tigers, get a life people! India has performed badly only in 1 series in recent times and same goes with england, moreover england is yet to be tested this season in tests in pak,srilanka and india later, So, england is no-1 as of now. Period. Regarding odis, no doubt India is the better team as of now.and series against Australia will settle two debates- 1)Are India only home tigers? 2) Who is best in ODIs-India or Aussies?

  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    @5wombats and all english fans. come with a win dont come with excuses. champions always come with rescue not with excuse. thats y indians r champions and england r still underdogs in worldcups

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    Well mr jg2704 well we won the pinnacle cup in cricket world cup in your counttry boo hoo and well u have not won the test world cup just got ranking temporarily that's all u will Lose it in India if not in UAE. BUT WE ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS FOR FOUR YEARS lol

  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    BTW, It was dhoni who threw from midwicket. It is not correctly mentioned in Commentry as well as here. Kohli was the one collecting Dhoni's bad throw.

  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    The best Test Team in the world should beat or survive away series at any cost - without excuses like injuries, burn out etc. In past few away series India had outdone Australia, New Zeeland, West Indies & England(last series) & managed to draw South Africa for the first time. Now England's Numero Uno status will become undisputed only when they win Test series in India next year. Before that Pakistan will be waiting for the "Rank 1" English team with some quality spin in January.

    Ricky Ponting will never be great a Captain in the eyes of Indian fans because he never won a Test match in India leave his behaviour at the infamous Sydney Test neither will be Steve Waugh who lost his "Final Frontier"

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | October 23, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    When the series began, England was my favourite to win. They had brought quite a good team and India had picked a bowling attack short on experience . Though I am an Indian fan, I am surprised at the defeats. Sure England had their chances but they failed to take them, and that matters. I think the problem for England is their ambivalence to the game, and also the fact that in the sub-continent, they seem to be out of their comfort zone.Also their methods are pretty outdated. Over the years, the 50 over game has acquired a dynamic of its own and England seem not to have picked up on it. They are playing a game which would have made them champions 10 years ago. They are poor in rotating the strike. This is strange for England which 1st came up with this short version of the game. This is where Australia are better. They give priority both to Test cricket and they play good LOI cricket. England, notwithstanding T20 World Cup are an ordinary LOI team with outdated gameplans and methods.

  • POSTED BY bhrangi on | October 23, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @JG2704: Really world cup is not a pinnacle for urs ??? then y england is playing ODIs., then wats England's Pinnacle ?? football hu LOL .,., as u said Time will tell , how long England remain at number 1 , lets see after the Srilanka and pakistan test series. Guys england is good in test we agree that and its only in home ., dont talk abt ashes against depleted Australia - main players just before the series retired .,accept the defeat and may be after pak and Srilanka series u guys lose interest in test too.,

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    Fair enough mister let's see , I have to accept English team will be the bestvisiting test team to India in recent times

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 23, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    @dicky_boy - We're talking more decades than years ago when India won the WC in England and the English see Test matches as the real yardstick of cricket and therefore world cups are not the pinnacle for us. Time will tell , how long England remain at number 1 but right now they are number 1 and it is only your opinion that they'll lose that ranking quickly.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    Well said full blooded wallop very sensible comments respect mate!

  • POSTED BY Full-Blooded-Wallop on | October 23, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    Lots of insensible comments from both sides. People even claiming no side is no-1. Seriously ? ICC is not a fool to develop a ranking system, then according to you people, the teams with lower no of wins and lower points should top the table,yeah? Truth is that India were no-1 because they were better than all the other sides, and now england is no-1 due to the same reason. People say, these two teams are home-tigers, get a life people! India has performed badly only in 1 series in recent times and same goes with england, moreover england is yet to be tested this season in tests in pak,srilanka and india later, So, england is no-1 as of now. Period. Regarding odis, no doubt India is the better team as of now.and series against Australia will settle two debates- 1)Are India only home tigers? 2) Who is best in ODIs-India or Aussies?

  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    @5wombats and all english fans. come with a win dont come with excuses. champions always come with rescue not with excuse. thats y indians r champions and england r still underdogs in worldcups

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 23, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    Well mr jg2704 well we won the pinnacle cup in cricket world cup in your counttry boo hoo and well u have not won the test world cup just got ranking temporarily that's all u will Lose it in India if not in UAE. BUT WE ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS FOR FOUR YEARS lol

  • POSTED BY on | October 23, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    BTW, It was dhoni who threw from midwicket. It is not correctly mentioned in Commentry as well as here. Kohli was the one collecting Dhoni's bad throw.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    @Sada Duraivelu - Yes , we can indeed claim to be the best at something in cricket - Test number 1 side which we did by edging out your beloved India - loel.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    JG2704 - for all the history of cricket, england has T20 silverware.. i agree, that india are not a great sporting nation with few bits and bobs as you suggested...let me tell you how england works - invent a new game become a champion before the whole world catches up... when everyone challenges england, they move on the next version... cricket - test, odi and t20, atleast you can claim a champion of something in cricket! lol

  • POSTED BY bhrangi on | October 22, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    @5wombats: S India haven't won in Australia and England. But thing i want to tell here England played in australia almost 40 times But won only in 3 series( 2 before 1980s) and the recent 1 was 2011Ashes that too against depleted Australia ( all their players retired that time and struggling hard). India played only 9 series and we will see in upcoming australis tour.only 5 times india played in southafrica and urs is 18. So dont compare overseas matches and dont llive in past England thrashed INDIA in testsand it is being thrashed by INDIA in INDIA. Either of our team is not great, we are good in ODI and ur in TEST((not in subcontinent) . IF not interested in ODI then better leave the page for us ( WORLD CHAMPS )

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - Sorry but I disagree re Bell. I would say the opposite in that (as superb a test batsman he is) he is overrated in the one day format. I think I'm about the only person who notices his mediocre average and poor (less than 75) strike rate. Trott's strike rate is actually better than Bell'd in ODI's. Even in the run chase where Eng ties with India in the wc it was Strauss that was keeping England in touch.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 16:36 GMT

    The common theme coming from the Indians is that England can't win a series on the subcontinent.1, I remember winning a series last decade in Pakistan. The Pakistani players were trying to waste a load of time so England could not reach their target, but the umpires kept them out there and Pakistan players were booing as Thorpe ,Hussain saw the side home. Anyway , the thing is each era produces a new side and each team should be judged on the side they produce in that era. The fact is that England have not played test cricket in India with the crop of players who have won their last 4 test series and become officially number 1 test side. They could well fall flat on their faces and lose their ranking very soon after they gained it. Only time will tell. I'm optimistic as I feel that in recent years we have saved tests which we should have lost (vs SA on the last tour and Aus in Cardiff last time) and won tests which looked like being drawn (Sri Lanka in a match badly rain affected 2011)

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 22, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    @Pankaj_INDIA, agreed, England are not no.1, definitely not in ODIs. How about India? How many matches did you win in England? Why you are "chest pumping" after winning a ODI series in India?

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    And to all the English fans sayin this series has no significance, congrats a very nice excuse , well u have to use every odi as a stepping stone for the next world cup ,ask any captain he will tell you pinnacle is a world cup victory not being no one in the tests temporarily I am guessing till England play India in India

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    And Australia and sa for England is not abroad , it is like srilanka and Pakistan for India, so please u did not win abroad I mean really foreign pitches for u means the SUBCONTINENT . Not the same fast pitches in aus and sa

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    Yeah mr wombat I read it properly but I say we came close to winning last two times both in Australia and sa. Now read this WHAT DID ENGLAND DO IN THE SUBCONTINENT I mean in India not Bangladesh . So if England became no 1 they have done so without winning in INDIA , we at least drew in SA and came close in AUS

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    Oh please mr brittop I can say the same thing England have become the number one without winning In India what do u say. But last year we had the southafricans on the mat last day of last test kallis saved them. So I guess we are improving

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 22, 2011, 16:04 GMT

    Why do you lot keep dragging up the past... As far as the world cup is concerned, anything prior to the last one is history and is of no significance whatsoever to the present.. Where India were in the test table 6 months ago is also history..It's where they are now that matters. It doesn't matter a jot how many ODI series Australia have won in India.. They've won more overall than any other team and are currently rated number 1. That's fact. England may have never won a test series in India.. so what ? They've won enough elsewhere to make them number 1. So instead of dragging up all the things that have happened in the past, look to what is happening now and what the future holds... Dwelling in the past only holds back progress into the future. You can't change history nor facts, so just accept them and move on.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | October 22, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Read the small print; india HAVE NEVER WON A TEST SERIES IN EITHER SOUTH AFRICA OR AUSTRALIA. TEST SERIES. TEST SERIES. Now @dicky_boy; where were YOU when india was getting whitewashed in the TEST seies, thrashed in the T20 and beaten in the ODI's in England? or are you yet another india fan that only crows when they are winning? (at home). Straight answer please. @tirtha16 - same question for you.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 14:22 GMT

    @navy_fan_of_warrior_prince: having said that, India were no. 1 in the world without ever having won a test series in Australia.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 14:04 GMT

    The only formula u people are using is grabbing other countries players lol Eoin Morgan played for Ireland in 2007 wc and u are going crazy about him not being here , and one more star player Kevin pietersen haha from south africa

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 14:00 GMT

    Mr baker no formulas only facts 1. We won the world cup in england and in India - England none home or away 2. We won test series in England recently while u have not won in India for the past 30 years 3. Last three odi series in india 5-0 , 5-1,3-0 going on I am sure way worse than India in England lol I hope this fact removes the need of any mathematical formula

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 22, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    @MrBrightside92.. I don't think it's a case of English supporters not caring. It's more a case of what is the significance of the result, whether it's a win or a loss. As I said in a previous post, with India and England so far behind Australia in the rankings, either way it's not going to cause a seismic shift in the positions. All this series will achieve is a pot of gold in the authorities coffers. Nothing more, nothing less. It may give the two coaches some ideas as to the possible make-up of their squads for the next WC. But since that is to be held down under in 2015, what players do in India is hardly likely to have much bearing. And since India tour there shortly, they'll have that experience to draw on anyway. So what on earth use this tour has been to England heaven only knows since at least 4 ormore of the current squad won't make the WC squad anyway.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    I'd like to offer my sincere congratulations to all the Indian supporters who seem to have discovered a secret mathematical formula which "proves" that India's Test record in England is superior to England's in India despite the fact that India currently lead England 14-11 in Tests played in India while England lead India 22-5 in Tests played in England (that's 38-19 to England overall, by the way: as comprehensive a margin between two sides as you're likely to find among the major cricketing nations). I wonder if it's the same formula which "proves" that Zaheer Khan & Harbhajan Singh, despite thoroughly mediocre Test career bowling averages of, respectively, 31.78 & 32.22, are the "best" pace/spin duo in international cricket. If you happen to hold the secret to this mysterious formula, please waste no time in applying it to Jonathan Trott's ODI strike rate!

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 12:42 GMT

    JG2704 . I did not mention Patel, Bopara, Panaser in my post as they are all second generation Indians born in the UK and if the choose to represent England it is no big deal. I have a problem with England fast tracking South Africans and Irishmen into the team to try and give them the edge. South Africans, Irishmen, Australians or whoever else England draft into the team when it comes to playing India in India the result is the same, a hiding whether it is a test match, ODI or T20. It is a well know fact that Flower ordered tailor made green tops and favored the Duke ball in the series against India in summer. Without Zaheer the only Indian bowler with the knowhow to use the conditions India were always going to suffer. Let us see How England perform against Pakistan in the Middle where the ball does not swing.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    And mr wombat why r u claiming we have never won in Australia and sa . Talk about ur own team we won within last five years while u did not since 1984 boo hoo lol we r not naming any other team we r saying u did not win in India , we r not using lame excuses naming other teams like u got thrashed in ashes past two decades lolno we are talking about u not winning in India

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | October 22, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    I must say, as an England fan, that to say we don't care about the ODI's is a poor response and plainly wrong. It does a disservice to the guys out there trying, and the quality of the Indian performances. Similarly, going on and on about rain and DL as excuses is also a disservice. Australia lost the toss, batted, had rain delays..DL etc. They took the decision to bowl and field well and thrashed a very rusty SA side! I agree rain helped Eng and you didn't win a toss....but that doesn't lose you games. Also, bigging up your team (both sides) means when your team gets thrashed it makes you look even more ridiculous. Someone also quoted Ponting somewhere, he is interviewed in Wisden saying Eng will never be the No1 test side. oh dear. But it's an opinion like all the comments on here....like commentators have...(I personally dont like Bothams comments...very poor captain)..its whether you want to be associated with a reasoned argument...or a ridiculous one! Good luck Eng!

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 22, 2011, 12:21 GMT

    Indian supporters can say what they like about England's away performances of the past. And that's exactly what they are, the past. Whatever England may or may not have done then, they have done enough in the present to earn themselves the title of number 1 test side, and I might add, pushed India down to number 3 in the process.. No matter what India may think of the system, the same criteria for ranking points applies to all teams, so there can hardly be any excuses in that respect. So now we come to the present ODI series and all the gloating about payback time. Well guys, if winning an insignificant 5 match ODI series makes up for the thrashing you got in England, it doesn't say much for your sense of values. And we know all about your absentees and illnesses, you've told us often enough. But if you are that short of reserves, you deserve everything you got for depending too much for too long on a handful of millionaire superstars. Sachin aka God is no good if he's unfit to play.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 12:21 GMT

    Mr please reply to my previous fact and we have the world cup in engalnd and in India lol

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    3 down 2 to go for England!!

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    @navy_fan_of_warrior_prince: aaaah got me! This is why I'm looking forward to the test series next year. If England don't perform well, then I'll think they're not as good as I reckon they now are.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 11:22 GMT

    I have to agree with some of the Indian fans here: it's nonsensical to pretend that we (England) don't care about one-day internationals: we care like hell. It's also the lamest of lame excuses for our appalling performances so far on this tour. On the plus side, far too many people were getting carried away far too soon over our new No. 1 Test status as well as our lucky 3-0 ODI whitewash during the summer: this was the wake-up call we all needed. As for selection: it's clear now that Kieswetter is nowhere near international class as a keeper, so both the gloves and Kieswetter's pinch-hitting opener's role should be handed over to Bairstow for the last two games, with Bell slotting in at 5, Patel continuing at 6 & Bopara given licence to attack at 7. It's also clear that Dernbach's Pandora's Box of novelty balls has been prised open & scattered to the four winds by the Indian batsmen, so Meaker - who couldl also provide extra batting depth - should be given a chance in his place.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | October 22, 2011, 10:48 GMT

    Tough luck England. At last some good cricket from them. Now that the series is lost, you have nothing more to lose. Do you? Just bring in the under-rated Ian Bell please. He is the man for these conditions. Some England players can do well by not behaving like crybabies while losing. They can learn a thing or two from Dhoni. What's the thing with Swann? He seems to have lost his game and marbles as well. He needs to behave properly. He was the same guy who kicked stumps in England and got away with it. He doesn't seem to learn. I love his bowling but he is losing it on all fronts now.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    @brittop- Exactly , none of us have been crowing about being T20 world champs and beating India along the way and NOT in our back yard either - although I can't remember who won the toss LOL. And obviously a series where England have the chance to go to 1 in the world in the test rankings is going to be a whole lot more important than a ODI series where maybe number 4 is up for grabs. On one of the other threads some Indian fan mentioned how bad England were at sport and mentioned obscure sports which India are good at (which no one in UK cares about) such as Archery, Chess, Hockey and stuff like Tennis and Car racing and I don't know what form of car racing was meant but I've never heard of any racing drivers or top tennis players from India. Even so it's pure pettiness

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    @Nampally - Finn is not better than Broad or Anderson. All 3 bowlers can have decent days/periods and and 3 have rough periods when they don't perform well in this format of the game. Saying India would beat England in a test series in India right now is pure supposition, I don't believe they would , you believe they would

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 22, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    @Sada Duraivelu and other Indian fans - sorry I think those comms went over your head bud. I was actually having a dig at the Indian fans on here who were basically inferring that all /any team(s) would have to do is win a toss etc and were booing about a wet ball etc. I'm not blaming anything like that. Credit India for taking their chances , Englands bad for not taking theirs

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 22, 2011, 10:34 GMT

    Mr wombats we won t 20 world cup in south Africa and in England , went to 2003 wc final in sa , won cb series in Australia, we almost beat sa last yeAr in tests they save it we were dominating, one day series in sa we were without four players and still came very close , won in newzealand, west indies, now mr wombats please do tell what did England do in the subcontinent

  • POSTED BY tirtha16 on | October 22, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    @5wombats: Before putting a question on India's overseas performance can u please check England's record...England has never been the team to beat in world cricket....look at your ashes record....Aussies have been beating you in home and away series's for long time....India have successful tours of South Africa, Australia, West Indies, Pakistan, SriLanka and most importantly India is a two time world champion and they have been in top three in test cricket for almost a decade now. India have produced legends like Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman, Kumble, Shewag, Dhoni and sorry to say there is not much Englishmen recently to match the caliber of these guys...I am not Denying the fact that England have improved a lot from their position in world cricket, but still it's a long long way for them to be in the supreme league..I would rather say South Africa and Srilanka have been better than England through out the past decade..

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 22, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    Strange isn't it. Before the start of India's tour to England, we were hoping for a decent test series. However, even before a single ball was bowled, we were being taunted by the Indian supporters as to how your number 1 side was going to crush us mere minnows underfoot. When it didn't turn out that way, the excuses flowed like water over the Niagara Falls. Now India are winning and the taunts are starting all over again. You win even more disgracefully than you lose. And just what has this series win done for India cricket. Nothing of any significance. You might move up a slot in the ODI rankings. What have England lost. A rather pointless 5 match ODI series which will have no effect on their ranking. However, set this against losing a test series, and your number 1 position and being relegated to number 3, and then you have lost something of real importance. I wonder if you'll be giving the Aussies the same messages you gave us. If so, stand by for another thrashing... C'mon Oz.

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | October 22, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    @navy_fan_of_warrior_prince - what a funny comment! india have NEVER won a test series in South Africa or Australia. NEVER. If you knew history as well as you claimed - you would know that. Also if you knew history you would know that England WHITEWASHED india 4-0 in Tests. That was quite recent, this year even, and you ought to be able to remember it. By the way - where were you when india was doing all that losing? Maybe, like many dozens of others here - you are one of indias newly found "fans"..... or perhaps, like many dozens of others here you were hiding when india was getting a hiding? I wonder. Stay at home india, make your "fans" happy - because india can only win in india.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 8:50 GMT

    brittop - i am not denying that England are a better side than India in England. No.1 test team for England for few months means absolutely nothing at this time, atleast not for me. Prove over a period of time and we will take a bow... How a worldclass ODI English team changed in few weeks? Remember the world beaters, world dominating, almighty Aussies in the 90s failed to win a test series in India. Will comment no more - will wait for England to arrive in India for Test and we can have a good chat! Sometimes brits boasts just too much for nothing - only a t20 silverware to show for over your cricketing history speaks for itself.

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | October 22, 2011, 8:33 GMT

    oi england, you want to be a half decent side? get some half decent players, that would be a start! ahaha

  • POSTED BY navy_fan_of_warrior_prince on | October 22, 2011, 8:28 GMT

    @brittop: If Eng are so gud in tests, why haven they won a single series in Ind in 28 years??? India won in both Ind and Eng in both test and odi serieses in d last 5 years,, last odi win in Ind-->2006 last test series win in Ind-->1984/85 Finally,, wart are they gud at actually?? test or odi??

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 8:06 GMT

    @Nampally: India lost the test series because England were the better side!

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 7:53 GMT

    @man007: They've gone to visit the Indian 4-0, 3-1, 2-2 predictors from the test series.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    This total can be defended but England made plenty of errors and dropped catches which cause them to lose the match

  • POSTED BY navy_fan_of_warrior_prince on | October 22, 2011, 7:11 GMT

    @brittop: If End are so gud in tests, why haven they won a single test series in Ind since 28 years,, Ind has won both in Ind and Eng in under 5 years,, last odi win in Ind-->2006 last test series win in Ind-->1984/85 Finally,, wat are they gud actually?? winnin in home only??

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 7:01 GMT

    For all English fans who says they care abt test matches alone,even in test matches u guys cant win in subcontinent.We don't play swing and u don't play spin.It is as simple as that..

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    For all English fans who says they care abt test matches alone,even in test matches u guys cant win in subcontinent.We don't play swing and u don't play spin.It is as simple as that..

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | October 22, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    As before - many comments here from people who were not India fans when India were losing just a few short weeks ago. In England we were told by India fans that it is nothing special to win in your own back yard. Now that India are winning in their own back yard we are told that this because India are some tremendous earth crushing unbeatable world cricket super power. Well - believe what you like - the truth is that as soon as India get on a plane to fly away and play cricket somewhere else, the losing starts all over again.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    For all English fans who says they care abt test matches alone,even in test matches u guys cant win in subcontinent.We don't play swing and u don't play spin.It is as simple as that..

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster: perhaps the ICC should impose sanctions on India for their pathetic treatment of the test series in England.

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 6:56 GMT

    @salazar555 Well that explains y u guys never won 50 over world cup.If u guys dont care abt ODI y bother it by playing it.Just surrender Ur ODI status.U can try speaking sense at-least at some times, trust me its not going to hurt...

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 6:56 GMT

    @salazar555 Well that explains y u guys never won 50 over world cup.If u guys dont care abt ODI y bother it by playing it.Just surrender Ur ODI status.U can try speaking sense at-least at some times, trust me its not going to hurt...

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    @krici_lover: no I will always love test cricket. Have done when England weren't good. T20 didn't go up in my estimation when England won the world tournament, although I enjoyed the moment! Wouldn't love ODIs more if England won the World Cup. As I've said before, ranking one day cricket along side tests is like ranking rugby 7s alongside the 15-a-side game or 5-a-side football against the full game.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 22, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    @Sada Duraivelu: getting your excuses in early for when England win the test series in India next year!

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | October 22, 2011, 5:36 GMT

    I think that it's quite funny that some Indian fans are now posting about English fans not posting but then when they do they get criticised for what they post. The facts are quite simple. Injuries aside India played poorly in the test matches in England. The teams were relatively evenly matched in the ODIs and the assertions by some that England only won because of luck is a crock. Both teams played generally well in that series and 3-0 wasn't really an accurate reflection of the relative merits of the teams. In the first two games of this series India have bowled quire well and England have batted quite badly. England's bowling was also relatively ordinary. In the third match England batted quite well against still relatively good bowling. India then batted well also. If not for a poor fielding performance by England the result could have been different. If the England batsmen have now adapted to conditions and they can get their fielding together game 4 could go either way.

  • POSTED BY joerun on | October 22, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    Its the rain and D/L that saved matches for England in England... But this time they need to play 100 overs...Come on team India.... Make it 5 - 0.... Unleash Aron...

  • POSTED BY on | October 22, 2011, 2:34 GMT

    Congradulations on clinching the series. I really appreciate the balanced view of Dhoni. He has analised the whole Indian teams performance and clearly emphasised on the areas of improvement.

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | October 21, 2011, 23:34 GMT

    When was the last time England won TEST and ODi series in India..27 years ago in 1984/85.. Since then England is sending B team to India to play Test and ODI ..Lol... England only good in England..

  • POSTED BY Ravs1504 on | October 21, 2011, 23:27 GMT

    Breaking News!!! English fans went for hiding....Yes i am talking to you...some english fan who use to comment on every single match and every single column...Jeez...what happened to you man.. where are you? India Flat track bully or england home track bully?

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 22:49 GMT

    JG2704 - I would love to invite england to india in proper indian summer to play tests.... that is in april/may... with temp over 35deg c not like in mohali with 24-26c like brit summer?? These 24-26c is NOT a home advantage india would love aspire is it???

  • POSTED BY NairUSA on | October 21, 2011, 22:46 GMT

    To be fair, England is still playing their natural game. The difference is that Team India has stepped up their game and it reflects in the results. Let us see if Dhoni and men can keep the winning streak on. Best luck.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 22:44 GMT

    JG2704 - you need more brits/english to support here mate... looks like everyone has gone on a fishing trip, leaving you alone! lol

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 22:40 GMT

    JG2704 - "Just a thought , didn't the England bowlers bowl with a wet ball (due to dew) in this last match. So if we're going by the Indian way , that was the difference and we deserved to win yesterdays game just like India deserved to win the matches that England won in England." JG2704 - your comments had been pretty good, except this one. England had a choice to bowl first after winning the TOSS knowing the dew factor... what happened cook and co, chose to bat first!

    It is not the same!! more excuses for england's poor show... GL for 4th game!! i hate to say this - i am not looking for 5-0 which india is capable by playing the existing 11.. I would prefer to give opportunity to few more youngsters ... honestly 5-0 doesn't matter to me at this stage - we have shown england is not close to india and few other countries, let alone superior or no.1 ODI team...

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | October 21, 2011, 22:34 GMT

    JG2704 - Who denied that due didn't play a factor in the last match? I'm not arguing about that. It played a factor of course but England had plenty chances to win the game. Prior to this series, England had a 11-1 ODI record vs India in India. You would think, the recently ranked No. 1 Test team, who came in feeling from top of the world from a 4-0 1-0 3-0 whitewash AND won 2 practice matches would like to continue their domination against the same team irrespective of the pitch. No rain or D/L to the rescue, and no HotSpot putting India into cold spots here.

  • POSTED BY bigdhonifan on | October 21, 2011, 22:24 GMT

    @ JG2704 But cook won the toss!!!! He can select to bowl first, but he selected to bowl!!!

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | October 21, 2011, 22:03 GMT

    @salazar555 - I think you are out of your mind and you comments about England not taking England ODI cricket that serious is absurd. Why is Vaughn and others eyeing World Cup 2015 and why was it said that KP and couple others, the key to ODI success and whatnot. I'm a little confused that England's future goals now. I read in couple different articles and heard in few interviews / fans like you claim - " England's top priority is to be the best test playing nation" but others claim (already even though we barely finished WC 2011) that England will win 2015 WC. How?? By mastering how to play tests matches you can win WC? I thought you needed to master how to handle pressure or at least be strong in ODIs to win WC. And how can you people have such high expectations (England WILL win 2015 WC) for something that is 4 years away??

  • POSTED BY krici_lover on | October 21, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    For all those english fans who say that they only care abt test cricket. I know its all about sour grapes. First time since ranking system has started you have reached to top. I am sure play few series in subcontinent, you will not care for test cricket also :)

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 21, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    @Salazar555: If you think England sent the B team then India thrashed them 3-0 so far with a C team. Except Dhoni, Kohli and Raina the rest are new comers to the team. So what's your excuse for that ? I think most English fans have come up dry with their excuses. It's no use fellows. I have always thought England were a better test side. The ICC rankings only add icing on the cake in that regards. However, in ODI cricket their record needs to improve. I won't be as lame as most English fans and provide the excuse of ignorance and incompetence. Cause I know Andy Flower and he was a wonderful one day cricketer for Zimbabwe. If still the English fans say they don't care about one day cricket, then the BCCI and the ICC have to impose sanctions or penalties against the ECB. Simple enough, throw them out of all future ICC limited overs competitions. We can always have Ireland, or Afghanistan to replace them. Bring on 4-0.

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | October 21, 2011, 21:54 GMT

    Contd. Difference is that in ODIs, England in India is not fighting (minus the 3rd ODI, where they did have little progress) while India in England WERE fighting on every count and in EVERY ODI MATCH. Team India, even after all facing heavy defeats in tests, still kept their cool verbally and showed that class is permanent; England on the other hand, uses verbal tactics to try and win a game? You see, it is so easy to spot the positives about your own team when you are NOT losing a game, but the minute you start losing, everything becomes an EXCUSE.

    JG2704 - I think you mentioned in last couple articles where some of the Indian fans were during the summer or something of that nature. Look dude, not everyone cares or has the time to post comments irrespective of the result. There are people like me who read and move on and choose not to participate in meaningless debates on who's team is better or get sold to cheap war cries. I did today but might not feel like it tomorrow.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 21:50 GMT

    Just a thought , didn't the England bowlers bowl with a wet ball (due to dew) in this last match. So if we're going by the Indian way , that was the difference and we deserved to win yesterdays game just like India deserved to win the matches that England won in England. So 2-1 to India and all to play for - or does that perverse way of thinking only work one way?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    re the Indian test injuries in England - Z Khan vs Somerset 0-72 , vs Eng 1st test 2-18 , vs Northampton 0-24 (combined 2-114). H Singh - 1st test 0-152 and 1-66 , 2nd 1-22 and 0-47 (combined 2-287) Sehwag Northampton (OD) 8 , rd test 0 and 0 4th test 8 and 33 (5 inns 49 runs , ave 10) - Yuvraj vs Somerset 0 ,2nd test 62 and 8 (ave 23.33) Gambir vs Somerset 21 and 36 n/o , 1st test 15 and 22 Northampton (OD) 18 , 3rd test 38/14 , 4th test 10 and 3 (9 inns , 1 n/o , 177 runs 22.125. THESE were the stats of these players when they played. Granted Gambir played while injured in the last match but even discounting that match his average would have been 27.33 by my reckoning so being that none of these players did anything of much significance while they played , how can you expect us English to buy the theory that they'd have made a big difference?

  • POSTED BY Agni_25 on | October 21, 2011, 21:06 GMT

    @Salazar555 : You are really funny.... But I feel sorry for u and ur team....

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    @Karthik Raja - Thank you for your impartial views on the test series. Indeed India were playing with 10 men for the whole series as Zaheer was out for the series and he had already proved what great form he was on with his haul of wickets in the warm up game at Taunton and of course India unfortunately had no one to replace him. Other injured players , H Singh , Gambir , Sehwag , Yuvraj proved in the tests they did play in England exactly what India missed when they were out injured. If you add to the equation that H Singh wasn't out lbw to Broad when he was likely to score big with the bat and the close nature of every single test match , then India were the better side and would have won the series and retained their nr 1 spot. So you're right , bad luck

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    @kevinpp24 - Sorry bud but check out Bell's record in ODI's and check out his strike rate against Trott's. You would think Bell could accelerate etc but he doesn't do it. I'm not saying Trott is fast either but Bell honestly is not the answer. Also I think we'd all been lauding Trott had England won and although our batsmen use up too many dot balls , I felt our faster bowlers were the one who let us down more

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    @nirajrb - I think you'll find Bob was already responding to those sort of remarks to begin with. We've been through this before.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    @AK_25 - Who's actually complaining about Indian pitches and conditions ? Seems like you're seeing things

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    @partha132 - Always thought it was the older ball that reverse swung which would add to ultimatewarrior's argument. To me India won fair and square.

  • POSTED BY SanjivAwesome on | October 21, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    I am a delighted Indian supporter. Perhaps England can find their form of recent times to come back and inject some interest into this series by playing the level of cricket most India fans know they are capable of playing. I am looking forward to hard fought cricket matches, as Mohali was.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | October 21, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    @Salazar555: Broad & Anderson have a poor record in India. In fact Broad was hit for 6 Sixers in a single over, by Yuvraj Singh.Finn is better than these 2 or Tremlett. Prior & Morgan are not better than Keiswetter or Bairstow - their replacements.The Fact is England has never beaten India in ODI and have a record of One win & 16 Losses in India. Unfortunately there were no Tests scheduled in India this year. Otherwise India would have beaten the same England side that beat India in England. If India plays with a fit XI - even if they are youngsters, they will not lose on the Indian soil.India lost in England due to unfit & out of shape & form players included in the side by the Indian Selectors + late arrival in England (one week instead of 4-6 weeks before first game).

  • POSTED BY Iddo555 on | October 21, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    England have never taken ODI cricket that serious, you can tell by the team they sent out, Test Cricket is king and that is all anyone in England cares about

  • POSTED BY Iddo555 on | October 21, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    England having whitewashed India in England sent over some B team players and a couple of kids to see if they could turn India over in their own backyard. They didn't think is was worth sending over the full first team as it was such a crushing win in England, they thought lets send the B team bowlers and a few kids to even it up a little and to be fair, the kids and B team bowlers should have won that last game

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | October 21, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    @WC2011Chps: I'll do you the courtesy of an answer to which I hope you give due consideration. Duncan Fletcher is a very astute appointment as Indian coach. He is well known for taking a long hard look at a team he's just taken over - and saying virtually nothing during this appraisal period. That's what he did with England.That's how he was on tour in England where he was not doing, or going to do, a quick elastoplast job - he was, after all, surrounded by legends who were, I think you might agree, past their best - and England were as rampant as India are now! Old dogs and new tricks are hardly worth the candle, if you catch my drift. Now, he's drawn up his master plan and it will bear fruit, bringing on young gifted players. In fact, the buds are there already. The excitement for you and all Indian supporters is to see the sides he puts out in the next year or two perform astoundingly well. You may find that this is shown in Oz even! He'll earn his corn and respect - in good time!

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 21, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    @KAIcric, England fan here and I fully agree with your assessment. Unlike what many Indian fans on this board think, most England fans would agree with your assessment.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | October 21, 2011, 19:14 GMT

    Now that India has shown that it has talented youngsters who can do a number on England in ODI's, it will be a lesson to the Indian Selectors to have faith in young talent.Also it showed that by letting the team work together it will gell into a cohesive combination.Future tours to England should start 4-6 weeks ahead of the first game and get the side working together to gell as a team. This was sadly lacking in the recent England tour when the team arrived just a week before the first game.The second lesson is do not bank on injured players to come out of bed & perform.Sehwag, Tendulkar, Yuvraj & Zaheer were all in this category. You need 100% fitness + sufficient practice + proven form to contribute irrespective of your past record. Current fitness & form should be the criteria.If the above 4 named players are still unfit & out of form, go with alternate talent for the Aussie Tour.India has a lot of Young & talented cricketers. Lessons learnt must be implemented for a winning team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    India's performance in the ODIs in England was definitely better than England's in India, despite still missing the big guns. Unfortunately for England, in the current ODI series, rain gods haven't favoured them and hence messrs Duckworth & Lewis have been of no assistance. Tough Luck........

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | October 21, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    @ ultimatewarrior - I wouldn't include Raina just yet lol ...He's still on and off for the Indian Team. And the only reason most of us blame IPL is because it ruins other formats of the game, especially Tests. Dhoni even acknowledged that our young players need to play more than just 20 overs game. Its not that IPL shouldn't be played though in my opinion; I just think it shouldn't be top priority the way it is currently.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    @salazar555 vinay kumar,Umesh yadav,r.jadeja,R.Ashwin has not played sum of total 100 matches for india, and eng are loosing with them.

    @salazar555 India is not playing with sehwag,sachin,yuvraj best batsman, Zaheer,munaf,ishant,nehra best bowler,that mean's eng B team lost to india c team. HHAAA. @salazar555 I think u r very frosted don't watch last 2 odi otherwise u hate cricket game.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    hey salazar555, come on mate, what you are saying is absolutely baseless. India is playing without 7 of their key players who played in the World Cup' 2011 Final. England is playing against an India B/C/D squad for last couple of months & not against the likes of Tendulkar, Sehwag, Yuvraj & Zaheer, otherwise scoreline would have been different in England ODIs too. At the same time, I have no qualms in accepting that India played poorly in Test Series in England (Injuries, poor planning, acclimatization also played significant role) but played brilliantly in ODI Series with whatever resources they had at their disposal. Had it not been rain, India should have won the series hands down. For the sake of records, let me tell you, England is yet to defeat India in a 50-Over completed ODI (not curtailed) since 2007 anywhere in the world.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    @salazar55 - Prior was dropped, for heaven's sake. Plus, Bresnan and Dernbach were also playing the SL ODIs where it was England's full team. And if you really want to count injured players, let's start that for India: Tendulkar, Sehwag, Zaheer, Yuvraj, and Munaf. These are the definite starters, and it's very likely that Rohit would have also started, given he has been selected ahead of Patel and Rahane in the past. All these are, of course, assumptions. Let's just say India beat England in this series. England beat India in that series.

  • POSTED BY AK_25 on | October 21, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    @salazar555...u mean england banchstrength is b grade...:)

  • POSTED BY mtambie on | October 21, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    @salazar555 no zaheer, no sehwag, no yuvraj, no tendulkar, no rohit, no munaf, no ishant....well if thats england B side i think your england B side is getting crushed by a India C side....stop whining and just accept the losses...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    @salazar555 u r now talking about england B team...did u see india's line up..no sachin no sewag no yuvraj no zaheer no bhajji no isanth no rohit all most a india junior team except dhoni and gambhir...... and in englaand our team was the same in odi except gambhir was also in the missing list........that time when eng beat india u people talk big words about eng.....now its india's turn to talk just shut up and listen.....i m damm sure in 2012 when eng will come to india for test it will be a white wash for india .....they will pay back the pain they suffer.......

  • POSTED BY KAIcric on | October 21, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    This is my opinion of the Indian and English teams (assuming both sides play full strength squads): In India, India is a slightly better test side, and a vastly better ODI side. In England, England is superior in Tests but in ODIs I think its 50:50 (in spite of the 3-0 scoreline in the last series). In neutral venues (this is more a hypothetical scenario), England is a better Test side and India are better in ODIs.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    Im neutral,i'd say its england's turn to get crused,wonderfull performance for sure from india wit no real exp in bowling dept, a team compared to be in training or internship wit players like parthiv,rahane,kohli,jadeja,ashwin,vinay,umesh who are in their very early stage of cricket,even raina could be among them whereas eng with just 4 main players out of squad cant perform even wit their team full of performers in england which may prove they r good in home alone,india had concerns like injuries,restless,rain,D/L,etc but england with just few injuries before start of series, pitch cannot be considered if its pitch then pitches favoured england 200% in their home so in dis case england must accept they dont actually deserve any victories in their home,india performed far better dan england in alien conditions away from home,seems like india playing warmup games with domestic teams,england has 2 show class n try 2 play cricket n stop whining excuses or going 4 word fights with players

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    @Salazar555 - No Sehwag, No SRT , No Gambhir. England was playing India's C batsmen. Rahane, Jadeja and Patel are two more C team players. Well done England, you're just about about good enough to beat India's C team in your own backyard.

  • POSTED BY Wiper_Warriors on | October 21, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    @ salazar555 - when india toured England..they also didnt have sachin,yuvraj,rohit sharma,zaheer khan,harbhajan,sehwag,gambhir(2 ODI)..and with the help of rain and duckworth & Lewis ENg had saomehow managed to beat india in their own backyard...Further note that all mentioned indian players are injured..but in english players case..anderson,tremlett,prior are awailable..but eng managmnt knows they r not gonna helpful in INDIA..English team is only "A" quality team in their HOME & ASHES...but for other it is "B" team in every tournament..INDIA had managed decent winning records iin foreign tours except last ENG tour...

  • POSTED BY mahi4lf on | October 21, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    @salazar555 england is not the only team playing a weak side perhaps ur forgeting that india is also missing the big names our bowling attack is really weak with out zaheer and ishant. in our batting line up we're missing sachin sehwag yuvraj so we are also playing a weak team so really at the moment both teams are in fair compettion.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 17:44 GMT

    @salazar555 : if ur memory is sharp den u shud check out even England beat India B team as half of our A players (Sachin,shewag,zaheer,yuvraj,rohit sharma,bhajji,munaf,nehra) were injured as well as u needed rain god as 12th man to help u tie/ wash out games which u were about to loose and add to that ur own backyard... dude accept it u can be world beaters only in your own conditions..

  • POSTED BY HenrySlate on | October 21, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    Salazar555, you mean your captain and KP are good enough for a B team. Then you have my sympathies and I will request my fellow Indians to do the same. Guys we should not gloat over these wins as poor English can't find A grade replacements, even though they claim to conquer cricket world in coming future. PS. You said Anderson. Could you please mention his performance i.e. wickets, average, economy rate or strike rate against India outside England?

  • POSTED BY brittop on | October 21, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    In case Indian fans still think England fans are hiding, here goes. India are an excellent one-day side and England are average (they don't seem to have the belief that they can play well like they do in tests). England are excellent in tests and I believe they will perform better in the tests next year in India. If not, I will agree that they are not yet as good as I believe.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    @salazar555 no Sachine, No Zaheer,No harbajan,No Sehwag,No Yuvraj,No Munnaf same condition when we were in England buddy. As @Shubham Singh said India B beats England A

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    Hey lets all try to reach 5 wombats , maybe if we all try he will be back lol

  • POSTED BY amit_kbhat on | October 21, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    @salazar555..No sehwag, No Sachin, No Yuvraj, No Harbhajan, No Zaheer, No Munaf..So this is Indians C level Team...

  • POSTED BY krici_lover on | October 21, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    @salazar555 No Broad, No Anderson, No Tremlett, No Prior, No Morgan: where were you man when India was without Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir,Yuvraj, Harbhajan, Zaheer. When indians mentioned this you guys dismissed them as excuses and now what are these LOL

  • POSTED BY msanirudh on | October 21, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    salazaar555 No Yuvraj No Sachin No Sehwag No Zaheer No Harbhajan No Munaf You are talking about India playing England B.Common guys give credit when it is due.Did you really think Under - Cook (ed) plans would really bear Flowers and Fruits.FYI..Every team is a lion in their own den.Great windies of past or assues of 90's may or may not be as dominant as they were in those days if they play today.Reason awareness of the sport and better infrastructure,fierce competetion to make it Big.Kindly remove the patriotic veil and enjoy a game as a game.Being gracious in a failure only shows a character of a man.I believe MS Dhoni is a calm,careful,streetsmart,astute person and above all a wonderful player who delivers when needed.So whom are you kidding mate..

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | October 21, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    Look who is finding excuses now.. By the way..England won last ODI series in India 27 YEARS ago...England only good in their own backyard..with some injured team as opposition..

  • POSTED BY kevinpp24 on | October 21, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    Cook - 30, craig - 20, trott - 30, kp - 120, ravi - 60, samit - 15, bairstow - 4, bresnan - 45, swann - 55, finn - 15, dernbach - 10, total - 405 matches. Patel - 25, rahane - 8, gambir - 120, kohli - 60, raina - 120, dhoni - 190, jadeja - 40, aswin - 15, praveen - 65, vinay - 6, umesh - 7, total - 550. Bell - 110 so even if i add bell to playing 11 India will still lead by 40 matches. Thats the difference, it doesn't matter who's in or out but which team is experienced. England fielded rookies in every department. But its still India who talks about inexperience. I wasn't happy with craig but as somebody said below craig can come down and bell can open with with ravi sitting out, trott is too slow and not the way forward but ravi is inconsistent.

  • POSTED BY WC2011Champs on | October 21, 2011, 17:05 GMT

    Nutcutlet, you are totally nuts about Duncan F., aren't you? In my opinion he is a failure. If you are impressed with Indian fielders like Raina, Kohli, and Jadeja they were born with it. Duncan played no role in that. And why did the same guys not look sharp in England? Because if things are not going your way how long and how vigorously will you fight. Ask English team that in a few days. They won't be able to keep the morale high if every game turns into a loss. Coming back to Duncan, he was the most clueless person in Indian dressing room in England. No adjustments, no fine tuning, no foresight. I would have asked for Zaheer's replacement before the first test got over. I would have made Laxman bat two feet outside the crease to nullify swing and because playing late is not a good strategy in England.

  • POSTED BY Agni_25 on | October 21, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    @salazar555 : In Indian side No Sachin, No Sehwag, No Yuvraj, No Zaheer..... so may be this is Ind B vs Eng B..... Whatever England is in receiving end.... Time for you to find more excuses...

  • POSTED BY murthydn16 on | October 21, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    Can England select players who are born in England at least once. Where nasser now? Hiding some where? Is vaughan applying john level vaseline?

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    And mr Salazar this is indias c team and also 1. Prior is a test player ur selectors dropped him 2. Anderson got whopped in the world cup and 3. Tremlet is no way better than bresnan ur experts like Nasser were saying and the player u people picked from the Ireland national team is just one good batsman we dont have sachin , Sehwag and yuvraj and hello our strike bowlers Zaheer and ishant are injured , nehra, the list goes on I can name seven more players who would have crushed England in India. mister so don't be a sore loser England were far inferior this series and b . U have no 1 ranking for just one two months we had it for 2 years

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    Mr Salazar like that I can name fifteen players who are not there lol we were the better the team in England also but rain interfered ha and the names u have mentioned well half of them do not deserve a place and the rest England dropped remember andersons whopping in the world cup with Ireland and Bangladesh lol

  • POSTED BY phoenixsteve on | October 21, 2011, 16:39 GMT

    Well played by India who are capitalizing on lacklustre performances by England. India have looked a far better side and thoroughly deserved each of their 3 wins. Will it be a white wash? Possibly.... but somehow I feel that English pride and talent will show up - in at least one of the two remaining games! Hope so! England should make some changes now though and I'd bring in Bell for Kiesweter and let Bairstow keep wicket. I'd open with Bell and Cook, Pieterson or Trott next (depending on which opener goes) with Bairstow at 5, Bopara at 6, Patel at 7, etc. Anyhow I'm sure the England boys will be trying their lionhearts out - but India have shown class and confidence thus far! COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • POSTED BY KTiwari on | October 21, 2011, 16:33 GMT

    This win was more tasty than others and it hurts opposition more than the one sided match where they know a while ago that they are going to loose. Good job Dhoni... Poms needs all the trashing and I am all ears to hear their more execuses...:))

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 16:32 GMT

    no sachin, no sehwag, no yuvraj, no harbajan, no zaheer, no munaf

    Its very poor performance from England team....Even though half the INDIAN team was injured, england couldnt win against INDIA.....

    England proved that they were very poor performers in SUBCONTINENT conditions...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    @Salazar555- India too are playing with B players we are missing the likes of- 1. Sachin Tendulkar 2. Yuvraj Singh 3.Virender Sehwag 4. Ishant Sharma 5. Zaheer Khan 6. Munaf Patel 7. Harbhajan(rested) 7 First choice players are missng frm the team. + that Yadav is now injured. (PS: It's not my fault that alastair cook makes bell sit out) . . . . Teams for next match: ENGLAND: Cook(c), Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Bopara, Patel, Bairstow(wk), Bresnan, Swann,Dernbach,Onions/Finn . . . INDIA: Rahane, Gambhir, Kohli, Tiwary, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Praveen Kumar, Vinay Kumar, Mithun/Aravind/Rahul Sharma/Aaron

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | October 21, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    2nd post. The series has gone for England and now they have an excellent opportunity to find out about some of the rookies the the last two matches. Dernbach or Bresnan should make way for Meaker - who may surprise a few people, btw. Bresnan especially could do with a rest. Moreover, he is integral to England's test side. Borthwick deserves an opportunity and here I would give Swann a break. He is too much seeking the limelight for my liking; his losing it with Patel (who had a much better game than Swann anyway) in the field was revealing. There is something of the overarching prefect, a sort of self-appointed vice-captain-enforcer about Mr Swann. Patel was at the top of his game, even if he's not the most fleet of foot, and Swann was venting his own frustration on a ready target. He would not have turned on KP or Bresnan in the same way, for instance. Rest GS then; he needs time out of his hectic schedule to cool off! No one is indispensible and it is a lesson he has yet to learn!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    First String side: No Tendulkar. No Sehwag. No Yuvraj. No Zaheer. No Harbhajan. No Ashish Nehra. India A side: No Rohit Sharma. No Ishant. No Robin Uthappa. No Badrinath. No Kaif. So this is the Indian B side. Umesh Yadav and Ajinkya Rahane are part of side B. @salazar555: Shouldnt it read-Well done India C, you're just about about good enough to beat England's B team, in the present conditions.

  • POSTED BY srindi on | October 21, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    @ salazar555. And FYI Prior is dropped for Kieswetter saying the later is better

  • POSTED BY srindi on | October 21, 2011, 16:09 GMT

    @ salazar555 Great.. All these comes up when the team is losing.. Funny... What about India? no Sehwag, Zaheer, Sachin, Munaf, Yuvraj...

  • POSTED BY CricketMastro on | October 21, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    @salazar555: Great England...Howmany time you one the Worldcup. lol........

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    @kawshik Chakraborty - thats wat they know to do if win criticse other teams cant play on their pitfch if lose others pitches are very bad i cant wait for test seires next year and see the truth coming out that eng are gonna lose to pak sri and us(india) next year and even sa at home thats why i like aus they never make excuses build a team that can win anywhere and everywhere rem they are last team to win a test series in india 2004 they even won on dustbowl at galle and eng are scared of playing there thats why chris broad gave them a waring so that they get to play on a falt wicket and escape with a draw clever tactics eng really cleaver spin bowling is art like fast bowling both require equal skills to play something eng people will never understand but truth is always bitter eg galle

  • POSTED BY CricketMastro on | October 21, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    So India won the series Without sachin,sehwag,yuvraj,Zaheer,bhajji.take that english fans! lol ...he..he..he..

  • POSTED BY Iddo555 on | October 21, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    No Broad, No Anderson, No Tremlett, No Prior, No Morgan India is playing England's B bowlers. Birstow and Patel are two more B team players

    Well done India, you're just about about good enough to beat England's B team in your own backyard

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | October 21, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    @Aristotle: Excellent & factual summation of the England players.Denchbach with his up & down bowling somehow manages to get wickets in England. But your conclusions about him are right on. I hope your suggestion for inclusion of Meaker will be followed. You do not say who should replace Cook as a captain.It does not matter who the England bring in, it will be tough to beat India on the indian soil in any format of the game.The team, India played is totally different from the World Cup winning side. But the series so far has been one sided except for the third ODI which England had a chance to win.India lost all their ODI's in England in the final over & that too on D/L ruling. Here in the first 2 ODI's, England could not bat 40 overs. By batting 50 overs England gave India a close fight in the ODI # 3.Like you I feel India is not playing their best side with youngsters - opening bats like Uthappa, Mukund. Dhawan, Bowlers like Ojha, R.Sharma are badly missing. Will India try them? NO.

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | October 21, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    So it seems that Duncan Fletcher has turned the Indian side around - he and Trevor Penny have transformed the Indian side in the field since we saw them only a few weeks ago. They are 100% better than they were in England, IMO. Ironically, England really lost this match in the field and yet last winter in Oz, they were superb and still good (but not quite as good) last summer. Which brings me to consider Craig Keiswetter and MSD. Has anyone else noticed that it is almost always true that a keeper who is snaffling his chances is the hub of a really keen set of fielders, on their toes, attacking the ball, cutting off singles, etc? And the reverse is also true. CK had a horror of a game at Mohali (we all saw the errors, no need to catalogue them again!) whilst MSD was tidy and authoritative, directing the side with great skill. His captaincy and keeping have improved enormously now he's on home soil. For England, the jury's back: CK is not the real deal! What was wrong with Steve Davies?

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    come on rain...plz help eng..else they will loose the series 5-0.

  • POSTED BY i_witnessed_2011 on | October 21, 2011, 15:17 GMT

    Well said satish619chandar. Completely agree. It is a good wake up call for England. They are too far away being a World Champions. India had its wake up call in last 2 months and now its England's time. Both teams showing where they belong to each other :-)

  • POSTED BY naveenpnayak on | October 21, 2011, 15:17 GMT

    Keiswetter is to be blamed for this loss.. Poor Keeping from him.. Bresnan and Dernbach needs to be replaced.. It seems as if England players are just playing it for the name sake.. It seems like they have no hunger to win.. Get In Bell for Kiesweter for the Next match Plzz..

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    @satish619chandar - Thanks for your views - and I genuinely mean that. I can't really comment on Woakes although maybe Dernbach has become a little predictable in overdoing the slowies and was often not getting the Yorker right. Bresnan has been poor and I'd drop/rest him for Borthwick who is supposed to be a livewire in the fiels , can hold a bat and the other point - it could be coincidence - Patel and Swann looked most effective keeping the runrate in check with the ball. As for Morgan , I really believe we miss him and he is a master at manouvering the field by finding the gaps. He is also a busy runner and a decent/fast fielder. Guess it depends who would have made way for him yesterday. Would Morgan have done better than Patel? If he had replaced Bopara - maybe

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 14:58 GMT

    India B beats England A again !!! LOL.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    @ravi_hari - India needed 30 off the last 3 overs. It looked anyone's game at that point. Say what you like about the 1st 2 but this game does nor prove England are nothing overseas , even if India win the rest of the series by more convincing margins again

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 14:50 GMT

    @Karthik Raja - Thank you for your impartial views on the test series. Indeed India were playing with 10 men for the whole series as Zaheer was out for the series and he had already proved what great form he was on with his haul of wickets in the warm up game at Taunton and of course India unfortunately had no one to replace him. Other injured players , H Singh , Gambir , Sehwag , Yuvraj proved in the tests they did play in England exactly what India missed when they were out injured. If you add to the equation that H Singh wasn't out lbw to Broad when he was likely to score big with the bat and the close nature of every single test match , then India were the better side and would have won the series and retained their nr 1 spot. So you're right , bad luck, totally undeserved by England

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 21, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    @hindh88 I wasn't making a fuss. If you had read my post I was merely correcting an error in someone else's post who incorrectly claimed that India had been number 1 in the ODI table. But since you raise the subject, India may well have won the 2011 World Cup, but, despite what millions of Indian supporters may think, that does not make them the number 1 side in the world. All it means it that India won one competition in which they did not play every other nation. On the other hand, Australia's remarkable achievemnt of being the most consistent ODI side in the world over many years has more far merit and I think reinforces the opinion of many cricket fans around the world, that without doubt, Australia have been streets ahead of any other nation and will continue to be so, until/ if someone takes over the mantle. So hang on the the rather erroneous title of world champions if it gives you some pleasure. Real cricket supporters know that the best ODI team in the world is Australia

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 14:32 GMT

    @Dehron Salvatore - KP was going well. I listened to the Eng inns on the radio and they said it was a dodgy one . England could have scored more , but then again Patel really accelerated the run rate and so unless Trott got out or they elevated Patel above Bopara then we'd have been in a similar position. Trott's was a good solid inns and had England won he'd have been a major factor but when you lose you start looking at things you could have done better and re batting , Trott's strikerate is one thing that could have been improved. So no excuses - just pleased we put on a better show. Thanks for neutral comms that were just that ,

  • POSTED BY kevinpp24 on | October 21, 2011, 14:30 GMT

    I can see England improving match by match but still ended second best. Lots of positives and negatives to take, 1. Kp coming back to form, 2. Craig showing he's worse behind the stumps and in rotating strike, time for Davies or Bairstow to take the gloves, 3. Samit doing well - better technique after Bell in the team, team needed a spinning all-rounder, 4. Trott showed he not only eats up balls at the start but all the way down, time for Bell - he can accelerate if needed, 5. Derbach got some variations but needs more experience, finally something which struck me was England needs good balance between left and right handed batsmen and bowlers - this is very crutial in ODIs as most top teams like India, SA, Aus got them. England got only two reasonably experienced players in ODIs KP, Bell, Morgan, Broad, James, Swann. So all should be integral part of 2015WC. They got 4 years to learn and develop. My XI for 4th match, Cook, Craig, Bell, Kp, Ravi, Samit, Bair, Bres, Swann, Finn, Meaker

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 14:23 GMT

    @Gerard Pereira - Patel was born in Leicester , England but don't let that get in your way of posting ignorant , ill informed comments. I think we all accept that we're not so good at ODI's. And re Morgan , maybe he would have made a difference in a close match like this although in the other 2 matches we are not so delusional as to think he would have won those single handedly

  • POSTED BY nirajrb on | October 21, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    @bobmartin : what about trott ?? Is he born and bred ENGLISH ?? :D Capetown it is.. Last time i checked it was in south africa??

  • POSTED BY nirajrb on | October 21, 2011, 14:10 GMT

    @bobmartin: India were No1 in ODI ranking before entering into Champions trophy in Sep 2009... Go figure... And since when bowling coaches were used as fielding trainer ??

  • POSTED BY AK_25 on | October 21, 2011, 14:02 GMT

    to poms ..plz stop complaining abt pitches in subcontinent.....these r always like dat....the ausseis never complain abt pitches otrwise they wouldnt had conquered subcontinent....so stop complaining....and abt india....they r nt a team which could be no.1 long.....they can defeat all top teams...and they can struggle against weak teams....overall they r an entertaing side....and they improved alot in previous 4-5 yrs.....now a very good odi side...so eng team can improve if they stop complaing abt condotions around the world....

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    @ultimatewarrior: GREAT JOKE DUDE..........U R FOLLOWING CRICKET VERY WELL.....I CANT STOP LAUGHING.........HEHEHEHE......:p

  • POSTED BY partha132 on | October 21, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    @ultimatewarrior I salute ur imagination. By d way I never remember english reverse swinging in england and two new balls should favor you actually since I heard u were the "BETTER EXPONENTS OF SWING"

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 13:39 GMT

    keiswetter missed out on breaching level1 code showing dissent by infrequent appealing and hitting the stumps in anger.. But he is left free.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    Dhoni is lucky. but luck always favors the barve. Dhoni we need 5-0 white wash. go dhoni gooooooooooooooooo

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    the world beaters england has lost the series, that too indian are playing half the side.

  • POSTED BY Hindh on | October 21, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    England who were thinking of themselves as world beaters after beating india in just 1 series have been brought down to earth rather quickly. I Expect a 5-0 drubbing of eng or atleast a 4-1 win for india if india have an Off day..

  • POSTED BY samincolumbia on | October 21, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    England can only win games in their own backyard with pitches suited to their bowlers and help from the rain god of course. They have been thrashed before in India and this series is no exception!!

    Remember, this is India's 3 rd string team they are playing against!!

    5wombats is a typical english fan....he comes here once in a blue moon following the similar pattern of his team who wins something of significance once in a blue moon and then the english fans come here and declare that they are the bestest team in the world!!

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    Mr bob Martin India was number one for a few weeks before the champions trophy in 2009 when they won triangular series in srilanka. And this is a flawed scoring system world cup winners are and should be officially number one

  • POSTED BY Hindh on | October 21, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    @bobmartin Nobody cares of No 1 ranking in ODI table. India have won the 2011 ODI World cup which is won by the the team who are given the title world champions so what is fuss all about ICC ODI ranking??

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | October 21, 2011, 12:56 GMT

    Another example is to do with football and the Brazil of 82, the last of the truly great Brazilian teams. If results are so important why is that that team is aka the best team never to won the WC. Bcos they too were entertainers on the field. Most football fans were disappointed when Brazil got knocked out by Italy not bcos they didn't win but we wanted see more of their magic, it was the stuff of fantasy. Results may matter to you but there is a lot of enjoyment to be derived by a lot of people in the way certain sportspeople go about their business but judging from your comments I rather feel this post will be lost on you.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | October 21, 2011, 12:56 GMT

    @karthikfromchennai you must learn the difference between excuses, reasons and observations. Your comment about results means that you are and I have diametric views. As my screen name suggests performances to me are more important than the results. eg I've been watching Sachin since when he first toured Eng and was of the school of thought that it doesn't matter if India lose as long as Sachin gets a century. Why? Bcos in the first half of his career he batted in a way that I've not seen anyone bat and you only have too see YouTube to get an idea of what he was capable of. The pleasure he gave to so many people through his sheer brilliance could not be surpassed by the result of Ind team. He transcended the level of cricketer and became an entertainer. Steve Waugh was a great competitor and probably didn't have a play a single textbook shot in his career. I wouldn't have paid to watch him bat but I appreciated his other qualities.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    A Wild Guess......... BCCI has forced ICC to make immediate changes of rules in favor of Indian Team so that they can take revenge from England.....for eg 2 new balls / poweplay options and more...

    Ultimatewarrior - if that is the case, apparently world class bowlers from England should have the advantage, not India. If you use one ball, it would be assisting spin when the ball is soft - meaning India would hold huge advantage against England. On the other hand, Eng are unable to be competitive with two 2 new balls?! Not the world class bowling what we saw in England is it?

    In essence this additional ball rule would/should have helped England and not India

  • POSTED BY meastrostroke on | October 21, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    I just made ctrl+F and typed 5wombats and yielded 4 results..sadly None of the comments are made by 5wombats, Please 5wombats.... What..You still thinking of the words of EXCUSES... Dont hide urself

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 21, 2011, 12:36 GMT

    Amendment to my last post... I meant fielding coach, but somehow wrote bowling coach. Now to Flat_Pitch_Bully who quite clearly never reads any comments on here except his own, or if he does only sees what he wants to see, which does not necessarily equate to the truth. It has been written in these forums so many times that Patel is English... born and bred. A quick 30 seconds search on cricinfo would reveal he was born on the 30th November 1984 in Leicester (which last time I went through it was still in ENGLAND).. So at a rough guess, that makes Samit ENGLISH... Savvy ?

  • POSTED BY SnowSnake on | October 21, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    Congratulations to India for winning the series. Yesteday's game was a going to be a heartbreaker after 45th over regardless of who won. Both teams played well. England improved significantly. India remains a pretty strong cricket team. England are good, but needs to have a better attitude. England is letting recent success get into their heads and are becoming somewhat arrogant.

  • POSTED BY sathishkrish on | October 21, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    Where is Ian Botham? Where is Naseer Hussain? And where is Vaughan??? I do miss Vaughan's tweets.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | October 21, 2011, 12:31 GMT

    ha ha ha some familiar names are missing in this comments section! where are the 5-0/ 4-1 /3-2 ( for Eng) win predictors!!

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | October 21, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    So, it is squared now. 0-3 was the score in eng and thats achieved. Next win will be a bonus, now we want the T20.

  • POSTED BY 2.14istherunrate on | October 21, 2011, 12:11 GMT

    A magical game whose outcome pivotted on just one or two moments of real idiocy . Modern England is usually cool in a tight spot but not here. I feel sorry for dernbach whose entire england career takes place inside power overs or at the finish. his learning curve is so steep tyhat he may well just fall down again. Surely swann can take some of the pressure overs and let poor Dernbach have a few easy ones.AS ever England are being found out against spin and not working the ball for two's not ones. but maybe next game....

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | October 21, 2011, 12:07 GMT

    Congratulations, India, on winning the series. This was a much closer game and if they had been a little sharper in the field England could have won it. You can't give second chances at this level. However, England's batsmen are getting used to the conditions and putting up better scores- 298 -4 is a reasonable score in an ODI anywhere. Surely the Dernbach experiment must be over by now? Just because he can bowl a slower ball doesn't make him a good bowler; he's just not accurate enough at this level. Give Meaker a chance alongside the ever-improving Finn. For India, great play by Dhoni- he hasn't put a foot wrong this series. Jadeja also had a fine game.

  • POSTED BY puneet_usa on | October 21, 2011, 11:50 GMT

    Ricky Pointing once said when asked what has been the biggest Challenge of his cricketing career, Question was asked when the dream Australian Team was ruling the world cricket- His answer was " The toughest challenge in his career as Australian Captain has been to come to India and overpower them, It's really tough to do that, if we are ever able to do that- Then only our Dominance in world cricket will be complete"- This English Team is no way near the great Aus. Team Ricky had...As far as Indian Team- Signs are great as far as youngsters performing slowing and steadily- I am looking forward to the Indian Team's tour down under with full strength Indian Team giving full account of its potential and capabilities in foreign conditions- I wish Indian Team nothing but improvement in their records abroad and it will happen...As far as Indian Cricket Team Critics are concerned- the bottom line will remain that India is current "World Cup Champions" and i feel they are on way to defend it.

  • POSTED BY jit_cric on | October 21, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    England batted well, Bowlers performed the flop show, Hope to see more improved performance from England team specially in fielding and death overs bowling. Well played India will like to see white wash. Good luck.

  • POSTED BY aahahaa on | October 21, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    Cook - doesn't seem to have a clue about captaining under pressure, batting is improving but certainly not a natural leader Kieswetter - too inconsistent with gloves and bat Trott- good butneed to learn to accelarte when set KP - looks good, unlucky decision on any other day that would have been a not out Patel - looks good, has the right idea, should work on his fielding Bopara - useless investment, doesn't posses the temperamentto play at this level Bairstow- thrown in a bit too early I guess but still worth persisting with Bresnan - not a subcontinent wicket bowler, hits the deck on a line and length no great variations, may be very good in Eng/Aus/SA but not here Swann - hasn't been gret in this series but Indians are very good players of spin Dernbach - waste of time Finn - very good but very unlucky so far. Eng should slot Bell in for Kieswestter and have Bairstow keep wickets. Should drop Dernbach for Meaker who bowls 90+, speed thro air is alaways handy

  • POSTED BY ravi_shankar88 on | October 21, 2011, 11:22 GMT

    @All indian fans,why we keep on saying 5-0 whitewash.don't we need to win the T20,remember we also lost A T20 match in england. So,from now on wish for 6-0 whitewash.B-)

  • POSTED BY ultimatewarrior on | October 21, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    A Wild Guess......... BCCI has forced ICC to make immediate changes of rules in favor of Indian Team so that they can take revenge from England.....for eg 2 new balls / poweplay options and more...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:54 GMT

    Contd., Reg ur last point, while I agree that this series win wont eliminate the issues we had in Eng, Here is my stand on this. Ind was not as poor as they performed in Eng. They were litteraly playing with only 10 players in every TEST there. Means, injury happened in course of match(Zaheer,Gambhir,Harbhajan,Yuvraj were all injured during match. thats too early days of match) And they play with one short player. While Eng missed Tremlett and Trott, they played with fit 11 players wid ample replacements. India cant do much abt this. Jus Unlucky. Bt, some blunders were also made. Like sending unfit Sehwag, Zaheer, RP to the tour. No proper openers. Not enough practice games. These are all major factors which impacted their performance overseas. I am not saying India wud hv won that series if these blunders/unluck r avoided. Atleast they wud hv drew 2 Tests if not win. Eng is definitely good TEST team. Bt, not as gud as they were lookin against Ind. :)

  • POSTED BY rapidstar on | October 21, 2011, 10:48 GMT

    Playing 50 over ODI is tough isn't it? So sad, rain gods are not helping.

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 21, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    @hard_hitter2.. I do note a decidedly improved fielding performances by this Indian side, no doubt coutesy of the Indian bowling coach who was at Warwickshire for many years and just happens to be a Zimbabwian as does your team coach... So what was that about "foreigners" in the England set up.? @roshan.rasane.. Don't confuse ODI and Test rankings. India have never been ranked number one side in the ICC ODI table. Since the table was first published, it has been dominated by Australia, with only Sth Africa topping it on a few occasions.

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | October 21, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    @bobmartin, u r wrong; england need just 1 great odi batsman n 1 great pace bowler; when india won the wc it had dhoni n zaheer; naming yuvraj the player of the tournament was a joke; zaheer it was. kp is not really great but good enough to be in the side; bell n trott r no good; it is 2 early to predict on bairstow but england must play 3 players of his type; the only reliable bet is cook; when he gets going cook is very good; although he appears to be similar to trott it is deceptive; if cook becomes consistent england can win the next wc. as for bowling anderson is easily disturbed by a few blows; bresnan looks too mechanical; swann is fine but surely england need a great paceman; dernbach could develop into a great odi bowler but he must be allowed to play tests too 2 push up self esteem; zaheer does it because he comfortably feel superior to most of his peers; swann, finn n broad can provide more than able support.

  • POSTED BY Vijay_P_S on | October 21, 2011, 10:42 GMT

    Where is 5wombats ?? Did he lose his tongue?

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:41 GMT

    Indian team is Good but not Great ya we have beaten England 3-0, If there was no Dhoni in India. The result might have been 2-1 in favor of England believe me. I think selectors are doing ridiculous Job of not selecting Robin Utthappa in place of Parthiv Patel. Robin is far better batsmen then Patel to me any Day he deserves a chance & also Rahane is not at all convincing to me he is taking minimal risks any one can score 90 on Indian wickets the way he bats, Paul Valtathy should be given a chance in place of him (opener & Fast bowler). If I am selector I would pic Paul & Robin to open in next Game seen enough of Rahane & Patel Not at all impressive. This team not good enough to even reach Semis in World Cup in Australia. Srikanth & Fletcher are useless need Ganguly as Selector & Stephen Fleming as coach he knows australian & Kiwi conditions very well if we want to defend & win back 2015 World Cup. With Fletcher & Srikanth forget it India will not even reach Semis..

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:41 GMT

    A school boy ( Rahane by his size and face ) beat England in the third ODI !!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    @itsthewayuplay. While its always good to find mistakes even whn v r winning which will help us to improve, the points u hv made to suggest that "3rd game shud hv been won by ENG" r simply excuses frm a English point of u.. All those r parts and parcel of game. The better team in field won the match. The better team is decided by who wins crucial moments, who keeps their cool @ high pressure. Ind really performed well to win these 3 matches. Dropped catches(if not dropped r not goin to help @ all..) Rem, Dravid few many catches in recent tour and that definitely cost them. Reg KP's LBW, same KP was ruled not out on one occassion whn he clearly was and he took the game far away frm Ind in d recent TEST match. These are not considered to b point to b taken frm a result. India won the match due to superior display @ all times of the game, just like Eng's in Eng tour. Just give credit where its due.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:38 GMT

    a neutral fan i am........ good game of cricket, india played very well to win the match. but while watching england bat i noticed the way Kevin was going along, he wasnt troubled at all by the bowlers he was well set,untill a poor lbw decision got him walking back.. england may have made 50 more runs than they did had he been there longer.. same as in the 1st game with raina being run out and not given them went on to make 61... smh.....well played india...

  • POSTED BY Gupta.Ankur on | October 21, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    I think this series proves that Eng are no where near the "world beaters" status which they were made out to be after just "one" series win against Ind....

    Their bowlers were unable to make an impact without swinging conditions and they fielded poorly as well........

    India which did well in eng in the last 2 series and also came close to winning in SA...were not treated well by experts.......who predicted that India will only move down the ladder like WI....

    I think it will wise of england to do a thorough introspection of their "world beaters" status......

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    Well the three South Africans messed it up for England. Trott with his batting, Kieswetter with his keeping and Dernbach with his bowling. What next for England fast track a couple of Australians into the team. Blame it on the Irishman not being here or just accept that the team is not as good as everyone thought they were.

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | October 21, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    JG2704 - They really miss Morgan... To rotate strike and manage crucial boundaries in middle overs.. Am surprised by vulnerability of Dernbach.. Being a limited over specialist and master of variation, he became too predictable now and goes for easy runs.. Just like his country man Rusty Theron.. Does he merit the place after all the pasting he got until now?? Not sure about Meaker.. But Woakes could have been a better pick and rather unfortunate he is injured..

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | October 21, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    @itsthewayuplay ..instead of the freakin 'ifs' and 'buts'...shall we talk of the RESULTS? every one has as excuse but in the end the RESULTS matter

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    India SHOULD whitewash England, its nothing to really get excited about tbh. Im surprised they lost in England (the One dayers) was a shocking performance. England are a poor ODI team and any other result for India would be poor

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:10 GMT

    Dohni please give varon a chance

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    I don't find even a single comment here. Is there anything wrong!?

  • POSTED BY nepmist on | October 21, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    Congratulations Team INDIA!!! for displaying a fine match & good cricket by all the department... The Indian players have shown their mettle by playing nicely & wisely in toughest & crucial situations...They have made the England team just the spectators of good cricket... Hats off to Dhoni... And all d very best for a whitewash...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    INDIA WILL CLEANED UP ENGLAND 5-0

  • POSTED BY CricketLife.net on | October 21, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Poor fielding cost england the match, but atleast they have given us an interesting match for a change.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    This was bound to happen.. England was never a great ODI unit and in India their oneday record is abysmal. So what is this fuss is all about. Englands credentials as numero uno in test never gonna last longer.. They can not win in subcontinent. Infact we will see how good they are against Pak n Lanka soon. India in subcontinent has given the mighty Australians a run for their money. So I am not at all surprised by their top show. A 5-0 thrashing is very much on the cards.. Jai ho.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    ctd - another thing mentioned by SKY's commentators was about the amount of dot balls England recd. I have thought that this has been a problem for a while. It is ok if you can find the boundary regulary enough to compensate but I feel that our players far too often become too intent on trying to hit boundaries and miss out on easy ones and twos. I think our players ought to look to be scoring a single of practically every ball from the moment they get in and after a number of overs they can start playing more expansive shots ,when the timing is better. I thought Kieswetter was a classic example scored 36/38. 24 of his runs came in 4s/6s from 5 balls , meaning that the rest of his inns 33 balls yielded 14 runs.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:38 GMT

    ha ha ha ha..no comments...still waiting english fans..waiting for your comments :)

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:37 GMT

    go+india.we+want+5-0.to+crush england team thanx for 3-0

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:37 GMT

    The English were in a similar position a few days back, but now, its us Indians. And i think England do need to do the following: Remove Kieswetter immediately, he is not at all impressive, Bring in Ian Bell and get rid of Jonathan Trott, Trott really laboured his way to a 98 and it was evident that he is not an ODI player. Throw a challenge to Graeme Swann and replace him with Borthwick. He has mostly underperformed, even in the English summer and it continues. But whatever happens from here on, i think the doubting thomases need to stop questioning India's ODI capabilities. And for those English friends who will once again brush this series off as irrelevant, I would suggest them to go fishing, much more worth your while...

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 21, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Well at least England were competitive - even the most biased Indian fan can't deny that - well actually they possibly could. Patel had a great all round game and KP looked to be doing the biz before being given lbw. I did say that I felt that England should not bring Bell back and still maintain that. I would say to keep the batting line up as it is. I would however - unless the next game is on a seamer - bring in Borthwick for Bresnan. Bres has gone off the boil with ball and even let an easy ball for 4 when fielding. Also I wonder whether Cook might have taken a different gamble at the end and gone for Bopara (a 2nd line bowler but who was going at 4rpo) rather than Dernbach or Bres who are frontline bowlers but going for runs?CK's missed run out was I feel very pivotal and I feel Cook should have brought more men up in the last over. However Bres's inability to bowl a yorkey/low full toss would have made that irrelevant. By the way , well played Dhoni - superb yet again

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | October 21, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    I shall use a phrase often used by England cricket captains following a defeat, "England can take some positives from this latest loss." One, that we are positively a pretty useless ODI side away from home. Two, that there is positively no chance that we will win the next world cup. Three, there is positively no way this side will ever become number 1 in the ICC ODI rankings. Those are the only positives I can take from this latest debacle. I would like to list the negatives but I only have 478 characters left.

  • POSTED BY devenmakesar on | October 21, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    message for COOK, instead of spending time on Twitter and twatting about the series , he should have spent time in nets or planning.one should do what one can do best alastair!. what is jonathan trott doing in ODI , he played as if the game was for 5 days not 50 overs, england should have easily posted 330 and taken india out of eqation, the man of the match was TROTT by miles than DHONI , but for the wrong team.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    Why are there no comments

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    India proved that england is not a dominating one day team now ; congrats dhoni.....

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 9:19 GMT

    I think Keiswetter messed up England's chance of a victory... Never-the-less I'm very happy that India won! Hope India win 5-0!

  • POSTED BY puviyarasu on | October 21, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Come on India.... Need 5-0 Victory..... Dhoni Rocks.......

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | October 21, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    Once again Ind batting, especially Dhoni has masked the weaknesses in Ind bowling. I like the look of Ashwin who has potential but has been inconsistent so far. Hopefully he can make a mark in last 2 ODIs. First time in 6 games that Rahane applied himself and did well albeit on a good batting pitch. Was interested to see he was out to the ball immediately following some chit chat from Finn and can probably expect a bit more verbal in the last 2 games. I've no problem with it so long as, and as Dhoni said, it doesn't get personal. Incredible finish by Dhoni similar to WC but ultimately Eng threw this game away and the previous 2 with poor fielding more than anything else. The worst thing possible now for CricInd is to say that with a series win against the same team that thrashed them in the tests means that those test performances were a one-off. They weren't and the underlying issues have to be addressed.

  • POSTED BY udayanavada on | October 21, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Best bowling attack in the world (?) cant defend 298.English fans eat your word.

  • POSTED BY cricarnab on | October 21, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    A much improved performance by England. They offcourse got the closest wicket that they could to their English ones back home. However, for England to be a good one day die, they need to get a few things correct. MAke Ian Bell open. Kieswetter, despite his "belter extraordinaire" reputation has done nothing. Indeed, Bell would have scored much quicker with his classy and correct shots. They need to play Bairstow as a keeper instead. Cooks captaincy has been pedestrian. Swann is a much better bet as he is attacking, and looks more in command. England have excellent bowlers. So why are they so fond of Dernbach! The guy needs to focus. Play a speciast bowler who will just do the basics right. With such talent in their ranks, surely Dernbach can have competition. Or borrow another from South Africa or steal one from Ireland. You are anyways doing it all the time. :P

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | October 21, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    @Karthik Raja I've noticed a couple of glaring errors in response to you posted on 'Bowlers, Kohli secure emphatic India victory'. Should have been 'Finn...was UNLUCKY not to have got more wickets which has been due to UNUSUALLY poor fielding. Moving on although Eng have lost a close game in the 3rd ODI in which they should have won, the margin of victory in the 1st 2 games did not reflect that Eng were close to putting themselves into challenging positions. Dhoni and Raina saved Ind first then dropped chances off Kohli and Ghambir in the 2nd cost them dear. Finn has been excellent throughout, has consistently beaten the edge and seen chances going through the slips-he's deserved far more wickets and I wonder if it's possible to bowl too fast. Pieterson should have got the benefit of the doubt with his lbw and this for me was certainly an innings and possibly match-changing decision as he didn't look like getting out and scoring at a good rate.

  • POSTED BY roshan.rasane on | October 21, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    Congratulations India...! Now it will be some relief to Indian fans.

    But it should be 5-0 to suggest that India was no 1 sometime back nd was deserving the position and it should be done in absence of Sehwag and Sachin to shut all people questioning ability.

    It will also give confidence to young India.

  • POSTED BY PPL11 on | October 21, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    Common india make it worst for visitors, 5 - 0

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    Nice to see some sort of performance at last. Finn continuing to look world class, Patel proving me dead wrong, KP recovering some form. Trott's innings allowed the others to let rip.

    Bresnan is proving to be no more successful a ODI bowler than Anderson - that length he naturally hits that works so well in Tests gets him tonked in the short game - he's going for nearly 7 an over in the series, too much. The fact that of the best three economy rates in the team, two are the spinners, (in India? Imagine that...), suggests they need more spinners in the side. Borthwick in for a seamer, methinks.

    Kieswetter's place is under threat now - still no score of substance, and a few clangers with the gloves that may have cost them the game. Bairstow would get the gloves, but whether they'd leave him down the order or put him in early to pinch hit, I've no idea. I believe he's equally happy in either slot playing for Yorkshire.

  • POSTED BY sachin_vvsfan on | October 21, 2011, 8:29 GMT

    Why is that Trotts approach is scrutinized here. He is batting like how dravid used to bat when the top order is in trouble. If Eng had won this match, he would have been the man of the match and every body would praise him that his 98 was essential in the victory. Its their bowling and fielding(thanks to kieswetter) that cost them the game.

  • POSTED BY ganeshkumar.v on | October 21, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    as expected........... now waiting for hot comments........... :)

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 8:00 GMT

    India is showing the real character of cricket. It was dark days for indians when they were at England.Even nature was also against them... Now Indians have come back... Poor performance from English.....

  • POSTED BY ravi_hari on | October 21, 2011, 7:45 GMT

    It was a resounding victory for India. After the drubbing they got in England this was a fitting reply. However, it proves the point that both the teams are tigers at home and nothing overseas. It looks like they do not deserve the rankings and cannot be guaranteed success anywhere other than home. Looking at English bowlers struggle and batsmen failing to read the wickets is surprising. This was the same team which treated the Indian bowling as club cricketers and picked wickets at will. Having posted 298, only England can loose as they did to minnows in the World Cup. Youngsters who were found wanting have finally delivered for India. Rahane was brilliant and Jadeja is having a dream run. With the dependable Gambhir and Dhoni contributing victory was never in doubt. A 5-0 white wash is there for the asking. Only India can deny themselves the privilege. I dont think Cook's party has it in them to reduce the lead. Their bowling looks weak without Jimmy and Borad. Go for it India. Ravi

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:43 GMT

    Well done India 3-0.. unfinished business though, 2 more nails to go in the coffin!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:43 GMT

    I am not satisfied with this match win. It is only a lucky victory due to the worst cricket from visitor's side. Team India outplayed them in first 2 games but this was a lucky win.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    Poor performance. Cooke and Kieswetter are not scoring boundaries or getting quick singles as a pairing. Kieswetter's keeping has been very very poor. Finn - despite his two wickets is not the bowler for these surfaces. If Cooke wasn't captain - he wouldn't be playing. Bell opening with Bairstow (as keeper) Trott, Pietersen.. I wouldn't have Cooke, Kieswetter, Bopara or Finn in the side.And with Bresnan and Dernbach's radar on the blink England are weak in all departments. India are deserved victors. Until England learn to adapt (which they haven't since Gatting and Fowler in 1984/5) England will lose again and again. OR I could say. Totally unfair game. Pitch terrible, dew makes it a lottery and whoever has to use ball in wet dew conditions bowling second loses the game. Might as well decide the victor at the toss. Moral victory for England...I COULD say that...but I won't

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | October 21, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    I have a correction to make. I just looked at the innings summary again and realised that England scored more than India in the last 10 overs. It really does feel like England had a very good chance in this game and just let themselves down in a few key areas. It was certainly an improvement on the first two games though. Hopefully they can take further steps in the next games and come away with at least one win. I think any reasonable person would admit that this game shows that they can win. A better fielding performance would probably have done it and we know that they are capable of that. I don't know if the heat and noise is getting to them and they just can't handle the pressure but obviously professional sportsmen must block that sort of thing out. Hopefully the up and down form from the WC doesn't return and they go back to the form of the earlier games.

  • POSTED BY DINESHCC on | October 21, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    MY DEAR ENGLAND FANS. BEFORE THE START OF SERIES THAT TOO AFTER THE CAKEWALK OF TWO PRACTICE MATCHES, YOUR PREDICTION WAS 5-0 FOR ENGLAND. AFTER THE TWO ODIs YOUR PREDUCTION WAS 3-2 FOR ENGLAND. NOW WHAT IS YOUR PREDICTION?

  • POSTED BY robheinen on | October 21, 2011, 7:34 GMT

    England fail to defend 298. It says it all...

  • POSTED BY SwapnilMalpani on | October 21, 2011, 7:33 GMT

    Does anybody verifies the information given in table? India have given total 3 extras yesterday. How come it's showing 2 NB and 7 Wides? We must appreciate the efforts put in by our bowlers, but here wrong information is depicting wrong picture of that effort.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    comgrax india.............

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    the english was too clumsy in feilding dept.....otherwise they played well.....nd a knock by trott could hav made a difference......!bt dhoni always reject 2 giveup...with his matching winning performance nd he completely thrashed the english bowler without giving them chances by his strong wrist capable of hitting hard to the ball nd make them crippled in the end....bt ajankya also played a wonderful knock of 91 which was cruecial....he always went straight nd he was too gud in such a not like typical indian flat pitches....!the ground showed heavy due factor in 2nd innings bt still the pitch was supporting the bowlers with a swing....!bt still indian batsman made a gr8 impact with the bat.....!this young indian team is proving something in the doug out...without certain major senior players

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    Samit Patel makes 70 of 43 and England still score 91 of last 10. It means that partner at other end must be trodded along. Trott needs to reinvent. "Rahul Dravid" model worked when par scores were 250-260 in subcontinental conditions, not now when 300 is also gettable.

  • POSTED BY meastrostroke on | October 21, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    I wonder what 5wombats is going to give excuse.. Team England played first and the pitch supported fast bowlers

  • POSTED BY meastrostroke on | October 21, 2011, 7:25 GMT

    HAHA this was always expected.. India-B team is always better than Eng+Ire+ind+SA XI team in India, Atleast england dint get humilation this time in 3rd ODI. Congrats Team England.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | October 21, 2011, 7:25 GMT

    Cook seems to be out for next to nothing or makes a few. Kieswetter seems unsure in 50 over games. he goes all out in T20 but doesn't seem to be able to blend attack and strike rotation in ODI. Trott occupies and accumulates well but I believe that he's capable of more and England need it. Pietersen looks like he might be back in some form, which is great news for England. Bopara is still not cementing a place and if he stays it will be as much for the extra bowling option. If Patel hadn't backed away too much too soon and had the bowlers follow him so many times he may have done even better than he did, plus he bowled well. Bresnan looks very hittable and I may have even gone for Bopara in that last over, although 7 runs was probably too few for anyone to defend against Dhoni. Finn looks very good. Dernbach needs a rest. Bring in Meaker or, given that spin seems to be doing better than pace, even Borthwick. Drop Bopara, open with Bell and play Kieswetter at 5.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | October 21, 2011, 7:25 GMT

    This game was billed to go all the way and so it did. England should not be disheartened by the result. As they say " YOU WIN SOME AND LOSE SOME" India have paid back their series loss in England. At the end both teams are great. Fans were condemning India to "Bangladesh/Zimbabwe status" when they lost in England. I as an Indian fan always believed the team has the potentail to be great like they have proved over the last few years even outside India. To complete a great team India needs some good pace bowlers. Othersie the batsman, spinners have always been great. Their fielding has also improved of late ( Fletcher/Penney) might be resposible for this.

  • POSTED BY PiyushD on | October 21, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    Its just half way through We want 5-0 anything less then that is a loss

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    Some say Dhoni regained form in this series; but he played well in the ODIs in England too. Only the team didn't click there! With hindsight, it looked like a 'mental block' - a sort of a psychological follow-though of the whitewash in the tests! Was there a replacement for Paddy Upton? Probably not! (Hey, BCCI does not have enough money? To find a replacement for Paddy! ) IN this particular match, luck seems to have favored the brave (read, Dhoni). Dhoni looked sure to get the runs, in the last few overs, even if Jadeja had fallen! Looked confident, though it is tough to read his face. Despite all my jingoism, can't help feel bad for Samit & Pieterson.

  • POSTED BY DalesGuy on | October 21, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    A good win for India against South Africa(ns)! Thanks Dernbach and Kieswetter!!

  • POSTED BY ddmumbaiindian on | October 21, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    What happened to English fans???? They simply vanished??? Well yeah dont have any excuses now what to do,, can't defend 298 runs. WHAT A JOKE,,, ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Eng was supposed to be best team few months back??? Anyways fact comes out at some point of time. Lest Bullies of bouncy tracks understand. Playing in Asian sub continent is also an art and part of Cricket. Not only pace, spin is also form of bowling,,, so founders of cricket go learn it,,,,or else you will be thrashed like this for ages,,, Well played India,, well played Dhoni!!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    where r u poms ?

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | October 21, 2011, 7:14 GMT

    I don't see this game doing anything to quiet the debate on Trott as a limited overs batsman. Again he made a good score at what I would consider to be an unacceptable strike rate. A #3 should be batting for 47 overs and making less than a third of the team's score at less than 85. Cook backed his performance but of course he would. You've just got to look at how Cook himself has been batting since he came back into the side to see what he thinks is an acceptable strike rate. Trott should be aiming for a run a ball or even higher in an innings that long. There was no real attempt to accelerate his rate when Pietersen fell and the innings meandered for a while with Bopara looking scratchy. Trott scored 2 boundaries in the batting powerplay; one a top edge the other on the last ball. Not good enough. Was I the only one thinking that it might not have been too bad if Trott had fallen with 5 or 6 overs to go and Bairstow could have had a crack?

  • POSTED BY ravizzz.5 on | October 21, 2011, 7:13 GMT

    english team is probably the only team ever in the history of cricket to have so many imported player in their ranks.its really high time..england prepare a team of their own people...dont u people have any self respect?hehehehe

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    Why England is playing very pooerly in India?

  • POSTED BY kingcobra85 on | October 21, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Captain Cool Is Back! Way to go young India...will be hard for seniors to come back..time for tendulkar to retire from ODI's

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | October 21, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    It's good to see England being at least competitive, which is what I had expected and hoped for the whole series. A very mixed effort in the field by England, with Kieswetter making some very good stops and then muffing 2 catches and a run out, plus some good catches taken and some very ordinary ground fielding at times. Another good win for India and this time under some pressure. India got a faster start and a faster finish with the other 2 powerplays being about even, so England must have done better in remaining 20 overs, but not enough. The dot ball count was close but it didn't seem that England scored singles and rotated the strike as well as they could. Another 10 or 20 could have made all the difference. Dhoni is showing that he's the batting equivalent of Malinga at the death

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | October 21, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    I think if Steve Finn can be a true great fast bowler. He has the height, control, pace, bounce, swing and sometimes a bit of seam movement as well. I hope they don't over- hype him like Stuart Broad and Steve Harmison.

  • POSTED BY Raghuec081 on | October 21, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    we were waiting for 5-0 ....come on youngistan...:)

  • POSTED BY ultimatewarrior on | October 21, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Where are those Indian Fans gone who were blaming IPL for the India loosing matches in England, Dhoni/Virat/Raina are playing non stop even after England tour in Champions League and still scoring briskly.........

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    India will clean up England 5-0,This will be a good wake up call from English expert and Media who labelled England a Next being thing on Cricket after West Indies of 70s and 80s and Australia of mid-90s and last decade,Yes they are Top side as per Test Cricket and their ranking suggest and series victories over Australia and India were clear evidebce of that but still they have to be tested yet in Sub continent pitches.....

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:47 GMT

    thanks a lot for kieswetter...he made things easy..but a super monarch batting performance from indian team...bowling a bit to concern except ashwin evryone gave away lot of runs especially boundaries

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:42 GMT

    Well done Team India and Dhoni. Now, Go For the Kill.. 5-0 is surely on cards.. Seriously missing a TEST series here..

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    Hello cricket world----- what a good match between india and england but the good thing is that we won the match. get ready england for your 5-0 whitewash ......hahahahhahahahahh

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    Hello where r the English fans lol but wherever u r well played

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | October 21, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    It was a good display from England.. They just panicked in the end overs.. Dernbach wit hall his variations, need to be more consistent and Bresnan did lose his cool.. Kieswetter's mistakes should not be forgiven in such a crucial match.. But overall, a good performance from England and unfortunately, they still ended up as second best.. @5wombats.. Please dont say again that there are many garbages.. We did live with English proclamations as No.1 while playing in home in home advantage tracks.. There were many English fans whining abt ur success and there is nothing wrong in it dude.. But where are all of those now? Let us put it as straight forward for this Ind-Eng debate.. Both are kings at their home and the word HOME ONLY cant be applied in all sense for both.. Both teams had decent(Not great) away record.. Now with Aus decline, we may well see 4 equally moderate teams competing.. Pity Pakistan as they still look a vcery strong team but not at all organised.. Too good team!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    its nice 2 see india win series after being creashed in england nd coz of rain nd bad weather we lost in england......toss was always crucial there if we wud hav being batting second we cud hav won 3-0...btw thats past present is that india lead by 3-0....hurray.........

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    Nice to see INDIA back on winning ways... But need to improve in paying in Overseas

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    Excellent show from men in blue. Really its now the pay back time. We indians wont accept anything less than 5-0 whitewash. Indians had the last laugh. Shame on u england!! Yuck:@

  • POSTED BY srt_rsd_ind_fan on | October 21, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    Well Done India! England looked like winning their first game in India since 2006, but World Champions showed why they are called so!!! Well Done!! 5-0 next!!

  • POSTED BY davidallan on | October 21, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    Good job team india keep it up.

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    What a pathetic team England is in sub-continent ? How can they be no. 1 ?

  • POSTED BY Pankaj_INDIA on | October 21, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    where are england fans now??? lol... just the other day, i read a comment somewhere at cricinfo that said "england are no1 in all 3 formats of the game now..." my goodness, a season or two of series wins at home, and these people start chest pumping... win a single match on this tour, then we can think of calling you a moderate side, no1 is way too far kiddos...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:12 GMT

    Lets England concentrate on their foul mouthing skills and India on cricketing skillls.............Cheers to both the team..both are winners

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  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:12 GMT

    Lets England concentrate on their foul mouthing skills and India on cricketing skillls.............Cheers to both the team..both are winners

  • POSTED BY Pankaj_INDIA on | October 21, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    where are england fans now??? lol... just the other day, i read a comment somewhere at cricinfo that said "england are no1 in all 3 formats of the game now..." my goodness, a season or two of series wins at home, and these people start chest pumping... win a single match on this tour, then we can think of calling you a moderate side, no1 is way too far kiddos...

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    What a pathetic team England is in sub-continent ? How can they be no. 1 ?

  • POSTED BY davidallan on | October 21, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    Good job team india keep it up.

  • POSTED BY srt_rsd_ind_fan on | October 21, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    Well Done India! England looked like winning their first game in India since 2006, but World Champions showed why they are called so!!! Well Done!! 5-0 next!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    Excellent show from men in blue. Really its now the pay back time. We indians wont accept anything less than 5-0 whitewash. Indians had the last laugh. Shame on u england!! Yuck:@

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    Nice to see INDIA back on winning ways... But need to improve in paying in Overseas

  • POSTED BY on | October 21, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    its nice 2 see india win series after being creashed in england nd coz of rain nd bad weather we lost in england......toss was always crucial there if we wud hav being batting second we cud hav won 3-0...btw thats past present is that india lead by 3-0....hurray.........

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | October 21, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    It was a good display from England.. They just panicked in the end overs.. Dernbach wit hall his variations, need to be more consistent and Bresnan did lose his cool.. Kieswetter's mistakes should not be forgiven in such a crucial match.. But overall, a good performance from England and unfortunately, they still ended up as second best.. @5wombats.. Please dont say again that there are many garbages.. We did live with English proclamations as No.1 while playing in home in home advantage tracks.. There were many English fans whining abt ur success and there is nothing wrong in it dude.. But where are all of those now? Let us put it as straight forward for this Ind-Eng debate.. Both are kings at their home and the word HOME ONLY cant be applied in all sense for both.. Both teams had decent(Not great) away record.. Now with Aus decline, we may well see 4 equally moderate teams competing.. Pity Pakistan as they still look a vcery strong team but not at all organised.. Too good team!!

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 21, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    Hello where r the English fans lol but wherever u r well played