India v England, only Twenty20, Kolkata October 29, 2011

Pietersen and Finn deliver England a rare win

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England 121 for 4 (Pietersen 53) beat India 120 for 9 (Raina 39, Finn 3-22) by six wickets
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

England finished a tough tour of India on an upbeat note, as they preserved their world No. 1 ranking in Twenty20 cricket with a hard-earned six-wicket victory in Kolkata. Steven Finn, with 3 for 22 in four fast and accurate overs, was England's inspiration with the ball as they limited India's powerful line-up to 120 for 9 after MS Dhoni had won the toss. Then it was over to Kevin Pietersen, who overcame an anxious start, and a fourth-ball life, to silence a raucous and expectant crowd with a blistering 53 from 39 balls.

Given how poorly England had fared in their 5-0 whitewash in the ODI series, they began the match on a hiding to nothing. However, from the moment they claimed two wickets in the first eight deliveries of the match, they were the team dictating the pace of the contest. Suresh Raina, with 39 from 29 balls, threatened for a time to restore the status quo, as did the Indian spinners who dominated the thrust of their attack. But when Raina dropped Pietersen at backward square leg off R Ashwin in the fifth over of the innings, India squandered the chance to ramp up the pressure that had led to England's collapse of 10 for 47 on the same surface in Tuesday's fifth ODI.

Pietersen's response was far from instantaneous, however. Although he showed no ill-effects from the chipped thumb that ruled him out of the final ODI, the left-arm spin of Ravindra Jadeja helped to limit him to 2 from his first nine balls before a stunning change of approach reaped the richest of dividends. In the space of his next three balls, he dropped to his knees to scoop Yusuf Pathan over his head for his first boundary of the innings, before flipping to a left-hander's stance and butchering a perfect switch hit over the fence at what had been deep extra cover.

Craig Kieswetter had already fallen to a mistimed lofted drive off Jadeja, and when Alex Hales holed out to deep midwicket off Pathan, both of England's openers had fallen with 40 runs on the board. However, Samit Patel's combative hitting proved to be the ideal foil for Pietersen, and their 60-run stand from 46 balls broke the back of the run-chase. Patel played second-fiddle for much of their stand, not least when Pietersen pumped the last two balls of the eighth and nine overs for three fours and a six. But he was not averse to taking the aerial route himself, as he proved when he flogged Vinay Kumar into the stands at long-on.

Typically, the denouement was not without its alarms for England. With 100 on the board, Patel sliced Virat Kohli to cover to depart for 21, and one over later, Pietersen was also on his way - courtesy of a shocking lbw decision from umpire Sudhir Asnani, who was perhaps distracted by another change of stance from Pietersen when he put up his finger for a delivery that clearly pitched outside leg. However, Ravi Bopara got away with a plumb appeal in Raina's next over, as he and Jonny Bairstow sealed the match with 10 balls to spare.

If nothing else, the victory - England's first in an away match against India since 2006 - was due reward for an outstanding month's work from Finn. By trusting in the same virtues of line, length and pace that had earned him eight wickets in the ODIs, he claimed the wicket of Ajinkya Rahane with the fourth ball of the match, courtesy of an outstanding one-handed pluck in front of first slip from Kieswetter, then later returned to remove two dangermen, Raina and Ravindra Jadeja, with consecutive deliveries.

Finn conceded three boundaries in his 24 deliveries, one to Virat Kohli when he overpitched in his first over, and two to Raina - a clean swipe for six, back down the ground, and a rare poor delivery on the pads when he returned to the attack to start the 12th over. The rest of the time, however, his rhythm and accuracy was unrelenting, and it was his key extraction of Raina, who cut loosely to backward point in Finn's third over that was the pivotal moment of the innings. One ball later, Jadeja chopped on for a golden duck, and at 74 for 6 with eight overs remaining, India's habitual acceleration was thwarted.

It wasn't a one-man show from England's bowlers, however. Tim Bresnan bounced back from a disappointing ODI series with a second-ball strike to remove Robin Uthappa for 1, and also cut short a threatening performance from Kohli, who had moved along to a run-a-ball 15 when Alex Hales on the deep midwicket boundary pulled off an excellent running catch inches inside the rope.

Graeme Swann's struggles with the ball continued when Raina pumped him for 16 in his first over, but his captaincy was certainly on the ball. Patel fizzed through his first three overs for 13 and bowled a frustrated Manoj Tiwary when he attempted to slog his way out of a rut, while Bopara pulled off some impressive changes of pace to deliver a double-wicket maiden in the 17th over of the innings. Yusuf Pathan missed the change-up after two slower balls and was bowled; two balls later Praveen Kumar had a mow and went the same way.

MS Dhoni, inevitably, was on hand to provide some late resistance as he and Ashwin scalped 25 runs from India's final two overs, but a run-a-ball chase was always within England's grasp - even allowing for the depth of their failings on this most disappointing of one-day campaigns.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Shan156 on November 1, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    @Rajchamp, we did win the ODI series in SL in 2007-2008. At least, we last won a test series in the sub-continent in 2000-2001. India have never ever won a single test series in Australia and SA. So, you may hype India as the best ever but facts state otherwise. Also, take a look at India's record outside the sub-continent - 25 wins and 81 defeats. ROTFL.

    Cricinfo, please publish.

  • Shan156 on November 1, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    @Rajchamp, aren't you conveniently forgetting India's 0-4 thrashing at the hands of England in the test series? Do you remember that India got pulverized by an innings and 242 runs (a margin India has never achieved in tests even against Bangladesh) at Edgbaston and then followed on and got hammered by an innings again at the Oval. Even in the other two tests, India were thrashed by 196 and 319 runs. No team, not even Bangladesh have got thrashed in a test series like this. And, India came to England as the #1 test side. LOL. England are light years ahead of India when it comes to test matches and better in T20s too. Now, #1 in two out of three formats isn't bad at all.

  • GDH62 on November 1, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    @Rajchamp Talking about not winning anything on tour, remember ealier this year when England defeated India 4-0 in test series in England?? And ODIs India lost "closely fought" series 3-0. Next year in India ENGLAND MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT WIN A SINGLE GAME on tour, but I'm looking forward to the series. When was the last time India competed against any team playing outside the subcontinent?? They look totally clueless when they play outside SL/ India. They have not beaten Australia team in Australia in a test series EVER. You can hype India as much as you want, but as long as they don't win a test series outside India/SL/Pak, they will not be able to prove their supremacy in test cricket. India are nothing but a team who can perform well, in home conditions, but have absolutely no clue and cannot even compete when not playing on spin friendly pitches.

  • Naikan on November 1, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    While there is no doubt that at the moment England are the best test team - as their win/loss ration over the last 3 to 4 years is far ahead of any other team, I am not sure on what basis they have been rated as the number one T20 team. Being the world cup champion is not an appropriate criteria as then we should rate India as the number one ODI team. Given the very nature of unpredictable T20 results, the rating should be based on cummulative records over a reasonably long period of time. On that count if we see the Win-Loss records in T20 from 2005 onwards or 2008 onwards or 2009 onwards, England never achieve the best Win-Loss ratio. That credit goes to South Africa. Many a time in such comparisons, several other teams are placed ahead of England. The rating process for T20 definitely needs a review.

  • kristee on November 1, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    England won the test series 3-1 and Oz won 6-1 in the ODI series on the last tour of the former to the latter; still, whose series it's considered as?

  • on November 1, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    one-off T20I or even 2 T20I are a little bit unfair & alittle unpredictable becuz the winners are determined by who plays well on that particular day.to make it more fair they should have a 3 T20I series

  • kristee on November 1, 2011, 6:59 GMT

    ODI wins never compensate test loses, in the first place. To elaborate, how much chance is there for Zim or Ireland to beat NZ or Eng in tests? It's not for no reason that tests retain their name.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    @Tim Cowell: How conviniently you forget rest of the four games when you give example of Mohali game?? Except that particular match, England were beaten comprehensively in all other ODIs. Whereas in England Chester-le-Street game was washed out when India were in strong position, Oval England won by 3 wickets, Lord's game was tied with last England batting pair at the crease. In India First ODI India won by 126 runs, 2nd ODI by 5 wickets with 13.2 overs to spare, 4th ODI by 6 wickets with 9.5 overs to spare and 5th ODI by 95 runs. Now who fought better in away series?? Even in ODI series in India, India were playing without Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvi, Zaheer, Ishant. Still they hammered England 5-0. Just shows the difference between the Quality of the two teams. India with half of their top players missing still miles better team than England which even got hammered by the Bangladesh and Ireland during World Cup LOL. England Just won one t-20 against India's second strength side.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    @A_Yorkshire_Lad:Talking about not winning anything on tour, remember 2007 when India defeated England in test series in England?? And ODIs India lost closely fought series 4-3. Next year (2008) in India ENGLAND COULD NOT WIN SINGLE GAME on tour losing test series 1-0 and ODI series 5-0. When was the last time they competed against any team playing in subcontinent?? They look totally clueless when they play in SL/ India. They have not beaten any Sub-continent team in sub-continent in a test series since 2001. (Except Bangladesh). You can hype them as much as you want, but as long as they don't win a test series in India/SL/Pak, they will not be able to prove their supremacy in test cricket. They are nothing but a team who can perform well, in home conditions, but have absolutely no clue and cannot even compete when playing on spin friendly pitches.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    @A_Yorkshire_Lad: Oh You are glad you finally managed to win a match which England could not do in India?? You think England have done something extra ordinary by beating an Indian team which was missing most of its players through injury?? Sehwag, Sachin, GG, Zaheer, Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma, More than half the side was injured in ODIs still there was one tie game which India would have won for sure had it been completed and also couple of other close games. What happened in ODIs in India?? May be except Mohali upto some extent, England were hammered badly in all games, they did not even compete. Their batting collapsed as soon as ball started taking turn. India can surely play fast bowling better as they have shown in previous English tours , but England collapse comically as soon as ball starts turning.

  • Shan156 on November 1, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    @Rajchamp, we did win the ODI series in SL in 2007-2008. At least, we last won a test series in the sub-continent in 2000-2001. India have never ever won a single test series in Australia and SA. So, you may hype India as the best ever but facts state otherwise. Also, take a look at India's record outside the sub-continent - 25 wins and 81 defeats. ROTFL.

    Cricinfo, please publish.

  • Shan156 on November 1, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    @Rajchamp, aren't you conveniently forgetting India's 0-4 thrashing at the hands of England in the test series? Do you remember that India got pulverized by an innings and 242 runs (a margin India has never achieved in tests even against Bangladesh) at Edgbaston and then followed on and got hammered by an innings again at the Oval. Even in the other two tests, India were thrashed by 196 and 319 runs. No team, not even Bangladesh have got thrashed in a test series like this. And, India came to England as the #1 test side. LOL. England are light years ahead of India when it comes to test matches and better in T20s too. Now, #1 in two out of three formats isn't bad at all.

  • GDH62 on November 1, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    @Rajchamp Talking about not winning anything on tour, remember ealier this year when England defeated India 4-0 in test series in England?? And ODIs India lost "closely fought" series 3-0. Next year in India ENGLAND MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT WIN A SINGLE GAME on tour, but I'm looking forward to the series. When was the last time India competed against any team playing outside the subcontinent?? They look totally clueless when they play outside SL/ India. They have not beaten Australia team in Australia in a test series EVER. You can hype India as much as you want, but as long as they don't win a test series outside India/SL/Pak, they will not be able to prove their supremacy in test cricket. India are nothing but a team who can perform well, in home conditions, but have absolutely no clue and cannot even compete when not playing on spin friendly pitches.

  • Naikan on November 1, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    While there is no doubt that at the moment England are the best test team - as their win/loss ration over the last 3 to 4 years is far ahead of any other team, I am not sure on what basis they have been rated as the number one T20 team. Being the world cup champion is not an appropriate criteria as then we should rate India as the number one ODI team. Given the very nature of unpredictable T20 results, the rating should be based on cummulative records over a reasonably long period of time. On that count if we see the Win-Loss records in T20 from 2005 onwards or 2008 onwards or 2009 onwards, England never achieve the best Win-Loss ratio. That credit goes to South Africa. Many a time in such comparisons, several other teams are placed ahead of England. The rating process for T20 definitely needs a review.

  • kristee on November 1, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    England won the test series 3-1 and Oz won 6-1 in the ODI series on the last tour of the former to the latter; still, whose series it's considered as?

  • on November 1, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    one-off T20I or even 2 T20I are a little bit unfair & alittle unpredictable becuz the winners are determined by who plays well on that particular day.to make it more fair they should have a 3 T20I series

  • kristee on November 1, 2011, 6:59 GMT

    ODI wins never compensate test loses, in the first place. To elaborate, how much chance is there for Zim or Ireland to beat NZ or Eng in tests? It's not for no reason that tests retain their name.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    @Tim Cowell: How conviniently you forget rest of the four games when you give example of Mohali game?? Except that particular match, England were beaten comprehensively in all other ODIs. Whereas in England Chester-le-Street game was washed out when India were in strong position, Oval England won by 3 wickets, Lord's game was tied with last England batting pair at the crease. In India First ODI India won by 126 runs, 2nd ODI by 5 wickets with 13.2 overs to spare, 4th ODI by 6 wickets with 9.5 overs to spare and 5th ODI by 95 runs. Now who fought better in away series?? Even in ODI series in India, India were playing without Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvi, Zaheer, Ishant. Still they hammered England 5-0. Just shows the difference between the Quality of the two teams. India with half of their top players missing still miles better team than England which even got hammered by the Bangladesh and Ireland during World Cup LOL. England Just won one t-20 against India's second strength side.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    @A_Yorkshire_Lad:Talking about not winning anything on tour, remember 2007 when India defeated England in test series in England?? And ODIs India lost closely fought series 4-3. Next year (2008) in India ENGLAND COULD NOT WIN SINGLE GAME on tour losing test series 1-0 and ODI series 5-0. When was the last time they competed against any team playing in subcontinent?? They look totally clueless when they play in SL/ India. They have not beaten any Sub-continent team in sub-continent in a test series since 2001. (Except Bangladesh). You can hype them as much as you want, but as long as they don't win a test series in India/SL/Pak, they will not be able to prove their supremacy in test cricket. They are nothing but a team who can perform well, in home conditions, but have absolutely no clue and cannot even compete when playing on spin friendly pitches.

  • Rajchamp on November 1, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    @A_Yorkshire_Lad: Oh You are glad you finally managed to win a match which England could not do in India?? You think England have done something extra ordinary by beating an Indian team which was missing most of its players through injury?? Sehwag, Sachin, GG, Zaheer, Ishant Sharma, Rohit Sharma, More than half the side was injured in ODIs still there was one tie game which India would have won for sure had it been completed and also couple of other close games. What happened in ODIs in India?? May be except Mohali upto some extent, England were hammered badly in all games, they did not even compete. Their batting collapsed as soon as ball started taking turn. India can surely play fast bowling better as they have shown in previous English tours , but England collapse comically as soon as ball starts turning.

  • RandyOZ on October 31, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    Clearly a team dominated by South Africans again, when will it change! When you look at the new guys stokes, keiswetter, roy theyre all the same, imports!

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 22:19 GMT

    @A_Yorkshire_Lad - I think the guy is trying to bring back the old debate about the origins of some of our players. Probably best ignore there. Britpop has just responded anyway

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 22:16 GMT

    @AsherCA - I believe KP was playing a reverse sweep at that time as opposed to a switch hit whereby his stance changes and I suppose technically he becomes a left hander. Anyway I think it was an inept decision rather than the umpire deciding KP was becoming a left hander. KP had his luck early on so I don't think he felt so bad getting out knowing that he'd made it hard even for England to lose. I know that one of the Indian (I think) commentators was booing about the changing stance being unfair (in another match/tourn). His co commentator (might have been Ian Chappell) saw nout wrong with it and if you're that good to be able to play it. The Indian guy said what if a bowler switched bowling hands? To which IC said I'd like to see someone try. I think I would to. I mean you'd have to be special to do what KP does and the same applies if a bowler could bowl with both hands.

  • on October 31, 2011, 21:32 GMT

    After being kindly informed by our Indian chums on dozens of occasions that England not only "can't win" in the sub-continent but have "*always* been useless there", I decided to hunt down a few stats in order to test the validity of these assertions. This is what I found: overall, England have played 90 Tests in the sub-continent: we've won 20, lost 22 & drawn 48. Pretty much par, then. By contrast, India have played 175 Tests outside the sub-continent, of which they've won 25, lost 81 & drawn 69. That's a win-loss ratio of 1 to over 3. You don't really need a Ph.D. in Applied Mathematics to gauge which side has the vastly superior record, do you? Case closed once & for all, I'd say.

  • puneet_usa on October 31, 2011, 19:17 GMT

    @@@BRITTOP@@@ - IF YOU ARE HAPPY THAN ON BEHALF OF THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF INDIA I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND LET KNOW KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE SATISFIED OF YOUR OWN SELF AND YOUR NATION- WE MUST APPRECIATE YOUR PATROTISM-MAY THERE BE MORE BRITS LIKE YOU....!!! BTW- WHERE ARE YOUR ANCESTRAL ROOTS FROM? JUST CURIOUS

  • MrBrightside92 on October 31, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    yes JLM123, but India won the World Cup, deservedly so, something we will not achieve probably in my lifetime, though don't want to sound too pessimistic! I do have faith in Mr Flower and I think the drubbing we've just received will be good...for the winter and especially next year which has been set up as a juicy encounter. Indian players/selectors please make it the test series the priority of next season! (Don't worry about the ODI's...you'll win easily!). With the T20's, England has a formula...which has been surprisingly successful. Bowl first, early wickets, pressure on and (usually) their fielding and tight bowling will leave then not much to chase. With ODI's, we haven't found a formula. That's why we play Trott. Watching Punter/clarke/hussey or Dhoni pace their innings is a harsh lesson. Add the inability to dominate spin bowling more than an over or two and you get a thrashing. Concur about the passion on both sides is good! Keep it up! 5Wombats is our king!

  • brittop on October 31, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    @AsherCA: Unfortunately the laws of the game don't agree with you. Offside & legside stay the same regardless of the shot played.

  • kristee on October 31, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    I'm not a Brit, actually. But my response to some preposterous excuses on what happened in UK made me look one. Consider one (actually it's too tricky to choose the worst, as they were all so bad!): England had too many SAfricans on their side; that means SA beat their team even without the support of those who were blasting them away in UK; the only marginal 'win' in SA was achieved with the aid of howlers 3-1 in favor of them; DRS could have denied them even that!

  • on October 31, 2011, 16:17 GMT

    Poor usage of words in this report. 'raucous' ?? Crowd is what brings the game alive.

  • JLM123 on October 31, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    Top of the rankings in two out of three formats isn't too bad.............India however are not top of any rankings.........apart from the most delusional fans rankings that is!!

  • brittop on October 31, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    @DAY.BEFORE.TOMORROW: we know what you're saying. Won't go through all the players individually again. Suffice to say that I'm happy to live in a country where people want to come and live, and, then they are treated like other British citizens, and picked for the cricket team if they are good enough.

  • on October 31, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    rajchamp finds it amusing that we English enjoyed finally winning something in India, thereby retaining our No 1 position in two of the three forms of the game. He then goes on to try to justify what he sees as India's superior status by claiming that all the ODIs in India were "comprehensive victories" whilst all those in England were "close games" (he seems to have forgotten the test matches!). If his reasoning is true, then how come those two series included 5th ODI: England v India at Cardiff - Sep 16, 2011: England won by 6 wickets (with 10 balls remaining); and 3rd ODI: India v England at Mohali - Oct 20, 2011: India won by 5 wickets (with 4 balls remaining). So the Mohali game was closer than the Cardiff match ....... oops rajchamp, you're facts are wrong!

  • AsherCA on October 31, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    Andrew - I guess your crib against Peterson's LBW is the ball pitching outside the leg-side. Peterson was using reverse sweeps & switch hits regularly in the match - how do you decide leg-side for such a batsman ? If the batsman's unconventional behaviour makes it impossible for the bowler / umpire to decide which side is leg & which is off, he should not be allowed to benefit from the conventional leg-side rule - it is his behaviour that does not allow the umpires to identify his leg-side ! You live by the sword, you die by the sword. If Peterson wants the benefit of the leg-side rule, he should not switch-hit / reverse sweep. If he wants the advantage of those innovative shots, he should not get the benefit of the leg-side wides / leg-side LBW.

  • puneet_usa on October 31, 2011, 14:08 GMT

    Moral Lesson of the two tours is that-" Lets not be too harsh on English supporters- They just want to find a moment every ten years in cricketing history to cherish about for ever"- People please let them do so if it makes their day..!!!! Like Dhoni commented- We just take one match at a time and work on it like a process- its a constant effort and a process..he nailed that one--Dhoni is a good speaker as well..!!!

  • kristee on October 31, 2011, 13:55 GMT

    Perhaps, it was largely a case of ODI-suited Indians playing tests in England and test-suited Englishmen playing ODI's in India. Only time will say, though.

  • DAY.BEFORE.TOMORROW on October 31, 2011, 12:45 GMT

    A-Yorkshire_lad: Still I am asking please list out the "England" players in your team whether it is text XI, or ODI XI or T20 XI?

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 10:38 GMT

    Away from the debates etc and it's something I've thought about for a while. It concerns the boundary ropes. I'm just wondering (and there might have been instances in the past) if there is potential for injury to fielders who could turn their ankle/foot by treading on the rope at a bad angle? I'm wondering if they could consider painting a boundary line instead?

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    @ Cpt.Meanster on (October 29 2011, 18:03 PM GMT) - You were doing so well in your previous post and were actually kind of gracious . We all know how bad we can be at 50 over cricket , I don't think anyone has said any different. As an English fan I am cheered but hardly jumping all around , like you say it is only T20. Oh by the way what format is the IPL which generates so much hype played over?

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @spiritwithin/withoutspirit - Those that are gloating are just trying to wind up the Indian fans who have been gloating at the English fans ever since India started beating us again. I would also just say that India is no match for England in tests in England and vice versa in ODI's in India. Still think we could beat India in tests in India and by the same token India could beat us in ODIs in England. And please , no more selective history from Indians. It's just my opinion and yours is yours

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @5Wombats - cheers for the comms. The way I like to see it (in terms of our postees over the last month or so) is that we might not have a big squad , but one that has plenty of quality. All the best. I was going to type a similar post but I was worried about omitting a key player.

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @Precioustar84 - Thanks for decent comms. I would however actually defend most of my fellow English postees. I will admit that there is rubbish from some England fans on here. The way I see it is that right now England are the better test side but India are the better OD side. Both have potential of doing things in the other format but recently have shown little evidence. The gulf is exaggerated when England play tests at home or when India play ODIs at home. As an English fan I believe we would beat India in India in the test format right now based on recent test form. Based on the fact that England haven't won tests in India in recent times , many Indians favour their own to turn it right around. That's their opinion too. One thing I will say is that I truly believe it is a OD problem more than a problem of playing in India.I see fairweather fans as those who comment lots when their team are winning but vanish when they are losing , not those who randomly say something rarely.Cheers

  • A_Yorkshire_Lad on October 31, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    @day.before.tomorrow - what on earth are you talking about ??? " Please list the name of England palyers in the team " ??? Your whole comment makes no sense whatsoever ! Just precisely WHAT are you trying to say ?? @rajchamp , oh how hilarious ! Yet another ' England think they are the best test team ' type of comment ! Well , you'd better get on to the ICC pronto then , because it's the ICC rankings which say that England ARE the best test team at the moment !! The SAME rankings that had India at the top of the tree until recently , by the way , even though India is yet to win a test series in Australia !!! BTW , we are not ' harping on ' about a solitary 20/20 win , we are just glad that we have managed to finally win a match , which is more that what India managed in England , excuses or no excuses . And nobody , but nobody , is claiming that England are invincible - perhaps you should stop judging other people by your own standards

  • Naresh28 on October 31, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    India needs another bowler like Zaheer - Ashish Nehra should have played in this game. Left handed pace bowler missing.

  • ravi_hari on October 31, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Finally the two teams are separated from each other. It seemed cricket is being played only by India and England. It was over dragged and I cannot understand why one should have back to back 5 match ODI series. The entire period saw only one team performing and other clapping. After England had won the second Test, India just surrendered without any fight to give a 4-0 win. After loosing 2 ODIs India again decided to gift the series 4-0. The T20 was also given away. It looked as though England was playing Kenya or Bangladesh. Within 2 weeks the teams meet again this time the roles get exchanged. After loosing the first 2 ODIs, England decide to give it away. However, the only consolation is that England will return with a win in their kittly, where as India returned empty handed. Quite a few lessons to be lerant for both teams. For India, fitness of bowlers and Dhoni's form in tests is a big worry. These should be addressed immediately to avoid white wash Down Under. Ravi

  • DAY.BEFORE.TOMORROW on October 31, 2011, 7:28 GMT

    VALAVAN: "england won and i am happy for my team". Your team means England? OK. ID is nothing to do with anything. If your team won the match, please list out the name of England players in the team. Please also do not beg every time CRICINFO to publish your comments.

  • atthipatti on October 31, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    Now these poms are getting funnier like never before. I wonder how T20s have become all the more important for the same bunch of ignorant who said ODIs were useless?? Tell me poms when did T20s become Test Cricket's heir apparent?? Or do you care only where you manage a win??

  • Precioustar84 on October 31, 2011, 6:00 GMT

    @JG2704 - I've been reading comments and reports on ESPNCricinfo for a long time but out of the "dedicated" fans who constantly comment, I feel you seem to be the ONLY FAIR and SENSIBLE minded person from England side. I mean, some people comment or view Indian fans comment as excuses when we try to say what went wrong with our team in a series; yet when England fans say the same, its considered a reasoning. I'm not sure who creates more double standards - England fans or Indian fans but I've seen both. But one common thing, there are lots of passion for cricket between both the fans. You give credit where its due and as a Team India fan, I have respect for people like you. Others have already said and done so what's the point reiterating so I rarely comment but please don't classify me as a fair weather fan. Nothing I say will change your mind and nothing you will say will change my mind. It's been that way for years. We support who we want no matter what and you do the same. Cheers!

  • Fast_Track_Bully on October 31, 2011, 5:04 GMT

    Wow...suddenly...English fans, who were interested in Test cricket only, and rubbished other formats has interests in T20 too!!!! LOL... @hhillbumper...England do not have a World-cup !- must be poor feeling for a country from which cricket originated! Isn't it?

  • Rajchamp on October 31, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    Its hilarious to see all the England fans harping about 1 t-20 win forgetting how badly England got hammered during the ODI series. Moreover , India were denied victories on couple of occasions by weather and all ODIs were close games in England. Whereas in India all ODIs were comprehensive victories for India. England did not even compete. LOL. Now let us talk about Ind- Eng in last 6 years. Since 2006, including all the tests, ODIs and t-20s played between these two sides, the score is 23-16 in favor of India. Whats more, England who think they are the best test side in the world,have not beaten India in test series in India since 25 years and have not beaten SL in SL since last 11 years. They won a test series against India for the first time in 15 years and they are jumping like they have become invincible. ROFL.

  • SanjivAwesome on October 31, 2011, 3:11 GMT

    Love the banter of English fans and Indian fans. Cricket is alive in both places.

  • Pickwick on October 31, 2011, 1:02 GMT

    Following the comments of some English supporters, I watched the highlights of the T20. Pietersen, Bopara and Kieswetter all survived plumb lbw appeals so we will have to put that down to the incompetence of the umpires. Pietersen's final dismissal, having survived an uncharacteristic dropped catch by Raina, was PLUMB in front. So the snide remarks about Indians by the English....well, what can one say about that. Takes us back to the good old days when they were in charge of world cricket - we cannot wait for the Test series in India. Payback is not complete yet.....

  • 5wombats on October 30, 2011, 23:42 GMT

    @JG2704 @brittop @jmcilhinney @Valavan @bobmartin @Shan156 (and others) - BRAVO mates! It's been a pleasure to take the field with you this series. Tough batting conditions and hostile crowds - but we never gave our wickets away! Enjoy the break, and we'll see you in Dubai. tweet @5wombats. And a Happy Christmas to all our readers!

  • MaruthuDelft on October 30, 2011, 22:05 GMT

    Well..India were the Number One; England now; but England is a more deserving number one for England beat Australia really convincingly but they are not fully deserving because they don't have truly great players like the nineties Tendulkar and that is why they did so poorly in the recent ODI series. When India beat SA or Australia convincingly in their own backyard at least once fans can really claim India is not any less than England; it shouldn't be a fluke victory like the one in the 2003/04 Australia tour; until then England is a better cricketing nation than India. However as for claiming Tendulkar as the greatest...No...If Bradman gets 100 Viv Richards 75 Tendulkar 55 maximum.

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2011, 21:16 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung - I'm not so sure about dropping Craig, Ravi. Re Ravi he could certainly improve with the bat but he has done a good job with the ball and by and large he was as good / bad as most in the side with the bat. Maybe a bit of Somerset bias here but I didn't feel Craig was too bad. He was about the only batsman who consistently managed a run a ball strike rate. I do think he has improved with bat and has more shot variety. Don't get me wrong I don't they should be nailed on but I'm not sure who would do a better job. The only guys I'd nail on in the OD side right now are Morgan,KP,Swann,Finn & even with Finn Im kind of waiting for him to go off the boil like Bresnan,Broad, Dernbach and Anderson have. Re batsmen would Cook maintain his place if he wasn't captain?And Trott,I know he is ranked top 10 in the ODI's but he is a very selfish batsman which is ideal in the test arena bot in ODs it can be a hinderance. Sometimes I hope he gets out so someone can come in and crank it up

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2011, 21:05 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta - half agree with you there - re Patel etc. Sehwag has been such a dominant batsman over the years for India that he probably doesn't need to excel at any other part of his game. There are some porkers who are consistently decent cricketers . Juiceoftheapple will remember Ian Blackwell from his Somerset days. He was a handy one day player with both bat and ball. If he didn't have such weight issues I think he'd have played more games for England. He looked pregnant when he played against Somerset this season in the CB40. I believe Patel has improved his fitness and I think he is one of the few players who has done his rep no harm on this tour as he has proved to be a handy bowler in the shorter formats of the game

  • on October 30, 2011, 20:15 GMT

    The only reason India lost was an exceptionally poor batting effort a score of 120 in a t20 international is not defend able Yusuf should have batted at no 5 not at no 8 and India should have played another bowler in place of tiwary

  • Valavan on October 30, 2011, 16:32 GMT

    @bhrangi, where were you during the summer. Did i ever claim England is invincible. or did i give excuse that we lost because of injuries. first of all none now dominates World cricket. England won in Home, Did India win 5 - 0 in england or somewhere in a neutral ground, no India won in India. None gave excuses here. Oh ye if we are nothing in sub continent, do you think you were something in England. Eat your words mate. cricinfo please publish

  • hhillbumper on October 30, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    To the Indian supporters.Lets see you win in Australia then we can start talking about test no 1.Must be poor feeling to have over a billion people and not be number 1.Thankfully we don't have to play you for a while so that we don't have to listen to the overly emotive rantings of said fans and how Sachin is the greatest ever.Not even fit to lace Vivs boots. See you next time

  • brittop on October 30, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    @Tilak Pranesh: "So why don't we just enjoy the game and stop arguing". Because that would be boring!

  • brittop on October 30, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    @bhrangi: Whst's your point? I believe @valavan was posting when England lost the ODIs. So you didn't watch 5th ODI. I didn't watch any of them because that only encourages the boards to have more meaningless series

  • Nish_US on October 30, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    5wombats -

    Since you do not care about any other format other than the TESTS, when ODI worldcup means nothing to you... INTERESTING to see you commenting on sunh a irrelavent game.....

    shows that you are no different than an average ordinary FAN.

    I do not know how you found the number of comments SURPRISING...but thats just human nature for you.

    KP once again proved his worth especially on sub-continent pitches, Ravi and Samit rose up to the occasion and FINN proved what a good find he is for England, definitely much better than what Anderson and Broad could have achieved on this tour.

    Though we lost the game, probably this is only the 2nd game that I enjoyed as a cricket fan, this series.

    Good luck to both the teams, until we meet again for the test series... and hope the two teams are at the top of their game, so that we can have a great contest.

  • The_bowlers_Holding on October 30, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    hindh88: England can claim to be world No. 1 now not "if they beat India in tests", they are ranked 1 based on the scoring system over the last 2 years, of which the win over India in the summer was just one series. It is the same points system that had India as the world No.1, but the rating system was ok then! India were ranked No.1 and have never won in Australia. I wish that some Indian cricket fans could get over themselves, I really looked forward to the series in the summer with players Dravid, Tendulkar .. I consider greats, but the constant deriding of English success and blaming injures, weather has made me realise that a large section of the Indian fans that post on here are just plain infantile, can't wait to see what excuses they have when the Aussies cane them!

  • SnowSnake on October 30, 2011, 15:47 GMT

    Now, this is over. India should start focusing on beating WI heavily and start putting pressure on England. After all England does not have heavy lead in test rankings. The problem with India is that it is playing a low ranked WI team in home conditions. A loss would be terrible and a win will not give substantial point boost because it is against low ranked team under home conditions. If India wins 3-0 and England loses even one test match, India should be #1 again. One thing Indian fans should keep in mind that India will be a strong team in future, what it needs is a vision, analytical approach and strategy and it can stay at top for a long time. It may be knocked off once in a while, but if it keeps on talent scouting and play with a plan, no team can match India. As for England, enjoy while you can, but keep in mind England will be knocked off from #1 rank in all formats. Talent is only part of rankings. Numbers plays a role in rankings and England will fail there.

  • on October 30, 2011, 15:42 GMT

    Tilak Pranesh is right on the dot. When one gets a recognition too early, without sustainable proof, in variety of situations,over a sufficiently long period of time, one always suffer from self-doubt. Hard core supporters of both England and Indian teams seem to betray that complex. Fortunately, not the two teams. Kudos to their maturity. Let both groups of fans wait for their teams to PROVE their worth on a consistent basis. Till then, let us enjoy the game. And, if possible laugh off the buffoonery of the umpires, we have been seeing across the glob, for quite some time. Out of respect, I don't want to name the best two ICC umpires -- even they started pulling out the wrong cards, after they had won the best umpire awards...I am sure, not intentionally....Error is human. If technology can minimize that error factor, it is foolish NOt to try it out.

  • on October 30, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    Still india had a chance to win T20., Just a poor decision on bowling while defending 120 low score., Even though fast bowling didnt good for india., it was gained wickets for eng in same pitch 1 hour before.,

    Aswin & raina,Jadeja Have ompleted thier overs early., in order avoid the early run flow ., We would have given chances to praveen & vinay and asked them to bowl for typical T20 bowling(Yorkers).,

    Battting department., Well uthappa a hard hitter., After long time he is opening in INT T20., Wrong decision first., Ajinkya unfortunate.,

    Better luck next time for T20 Format., 6th spot., india., Eng on 1st spot.,

  • on October 30, 2011, 15:20 GMT

    One England supporters comment sums up the series played in England and the series (five ODIs and one 20/20). "England is strong in the long and in the short, but is weak in the middle". I would love to hear the England's physio on this assessment. Are they really weak in the middle? I doubt !

  • on October 30, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    India beat England 5-0 in Odis but just by beating them in this one match-not only did England had da last laugh but took da t20 trophy & it ws enough for showing India that they are a better t20 team , the T20 World Champs, wherever they play & they lost in Odis as they are pretty weak in that format but India cannot beat them in format in which they are good at as that pitch & all the conditions suited India more and No.1 ranked T20 team-England showed how the true champs play as like "India"-England did not lose in the format in which they are the World champions as India lost to England 3-0 in England being the World champs in 50 over format nd 4-0 being the No.1 ranked team.... Cricinfo please publish

  • groundreality on October 30, 2011, 15:13 GMT

    @Dave Brown: I see. So when England fans crow about their wins its "statement of fact" perhaps? Or maybe "you started it"? Heh. Classic British "fairness" we've been forced to swallow for hundreds of years. Ever seen your OhhMattyMatty "reason" with us "silly" people? The ratio of blind fanatics to reasonable people is the same on both sides. Its just that India being a populous country, the numbers are higher. Cricinfo please publish.

  • on October 30, 2011, 14:44 GMT

    Guys lets face the fact..Neither england nor india are best. Australia stayed at #1 for a decade and no one questioned that because they deserved it. No one will be commenting here if England or India were deserving but they both don't. So why don't we just enjoy the game and stop arguing.

  • on October 30, 2011, 14:41 GMT

    India,s pitch is a batting pitch that's y England never stood a chance.........y dont play at a neutral venue

  • Valavan on October 30, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    @spiritwithin, i agree with you, also a point said by someone, about cook looking for things happen by itsefl, that is also right to the point. We know 1 T20 win doesnt speak much rather a consolation victory for our below grade performance in India. Our comments generally targeted the excuse making indian fans, who ask for revenge and so on. @hindh88, what justification did india do while they held the Test No.1 ranking for the past 20 months (DEC 2009 - AUG 2011). same question is applicable to chapathishot too. @chapathishot, good opinion that Loss in England will make India better, why dont you see the other part, do you think loss in India will make england to degrade from now on, Loss in India will make england to be better prepared for PAK and SL tours to follow in 2 months. Good that you love your team, but dont underrun other teams. Give respect. the truth is ENGLAND faced INDIA in tricky indian conditions and INDIA faced ENGLAND in tricky english conditions. cricinfo publish

  • bhrangi on October 30, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    @Valavan: Where were u when India crushed England in all the 5 ODI 's ??? 5-0 even Bangla, would have given us better fight. I didn't even watched 5th ODI. I expected these series to be 3-2, and the way ur batsmen playin against our spinners( except samit PATEL) proved that ur nothing in subcontinent.

  • on October 30, 2011, 14:17 GMT

    Some strange (to put it nicely) comments from Indian fans....U guys humiliated us in the ODI's in India we did the same to you in England with an added test thrashing. As the seemingly very sage 5wombats point(s) out-this is hard fact. Along with the fact we soundly beat Aus in their backyard...Indian fans need to accept that they need to find some quality seamers fast if they are ever to have a chance of winning a test against a half decent team away from the placid and boring Indian tracks. India v England in ANY 3rd country that isn't in the sub-continent? I know who my money would be on! Certainly in the test format. Your bowling is toothless without Zaheer, and you all know it deep down!

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 30, 2011, 14:16 GMT

    Can someone explain how our bowlers can rip through the Indian wickets on the same pitches in T20 that we didn't have a sniff at taking 10 wickets in ODI's. Its not as if there is a huge difference in the strike rate between a goodish T20 score and them hitting 300 in ODI's? Perhaps the ODI's just allow their batsman that little bit more patience to pick and choose their shots, rather than pre-meditate. We seem to have 2 gears: Fast and Test, and no in between. Perhaps we play too many pre-meditated shots in ODI's, but when they fail in T20's can be absorbed into the shortened format. Having watched a lot of Buttler, what I like about him is that although he has a box of tricks for scoops etc. much of his 40 over performances he plays balls on their merit playing the correct shots. I would like to have seen him get a chance in the ODI's for the last few instead of Bairstow, but I think JB is probably a more agressive player.

  • Shan156 on October 30, 2011, 14:10 GMT

    @kingishere, so, it is a shame that India lost both home and away in T20 and lost 0-3 away in ODIs to a minnow. Shows how poor India is.

  • Shan156 on October 30, 2011, 14:02 GMT

    @hindh88, by the same rule, India could never have been #1 since they have never won in SA and Australia. Surely you are not suggesting that a team only need to win in India to be considered #1. Even the invincible Windies lost to NZ in NZ and the great Australian team struggled to beat India in India until 2004. That doesn't mean they weren't #1. However, if we are to say that a team can be considered #1 only if they beat all countries home and away, then India had no business being #1 for over 2 years.

  • AeyKay on October 30, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    lucky England... they managed a win without their regular players... Duckworth, Lewis, heavily biased third umpires...

  • 5wombats on October 30, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    SO @hindh88 Your position is "India is permanently number 1 and will remain permanently number 1 no matter what the results suggest"? OK so let us all give up cricket now - because india is permanently number 1. There is no use to argue - no use beating them anywhere at any time in the world, because the result doesn't count - because it's not in india. What staggering, appalling arrogance and presumption. The wombats would REALLY like to know how india got to number 1 in Tests. They really would; how did they do it? They've NEVER beaten SA or Aus away! They come to England as #1, their fans boasting about the whitewash india are going to put on England. And look what happened..... BUT! - now we find that this 4-0 whitewash England put on india "doesn't count because it's not in india". So, all that hard work and endeavour that England had to put into beating india - the great bowling and batting skill, it means nothing...! The wombats could say more but it wouldn't get posted. plz pub

  • spiritwithin on October 30, 2011, 13:39 GMT

    @ Dave Brown..the excuses r there from english fans too not just from indians after their loss in odi's,u can see more no. of indian excuses here bcoz of sheer size of cricket fans in india which is the largest among all so there r bound to have more posts from indians..regarding 'last laugh' well losing 5-0 and then winning one match is not considered as 'last laugh',its like saying australia having the last laugh after winning the ODI series 6-1 against England,is it so??dont think thats the case coz Eng won the tests 3-1..similar is the case here in india,one T20 win and losing 5 odi's does'nt salvage any pride and does'nt warrant using the term u used..what u did in eng was outstanding and wont be easy to repeat in india,infact Eng toyed with indian team in eng but it does'nt change the fact that this series in india was a disaster for Eng

  • jmcilhinney on October 30, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    @hindh88, your words are irrelevant. England are #1 right now. The fact is that they could remain #1 for the rest of eternity without ever winning in India, if their results everywhere else were good enough. No team could be called genuinely great without being able to win everywhere but noone - not the England team and not their fans - are claiming that England are currently a great team. They are a good team and they have done enough in various places to be ranked #1. Whether you think they are the best is irrelevant to everyone but you. @Dravid_Gravitas, one cannot judge England's test potential from one T20 other than to say that they can win in India, but nor can even five ODI losses be used to judge that same potential, which many seem determined to do.

  • spiritwithin on October 30, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    @jmcilhinney,nobody's denying england's prowess in T20,they r afterall T20 world champ and only a fool can deny KP a great batsman irrespective of his scores in T20 and odi's here,just like some indian delusional fans giving excuses of india's loss in eng similarly i have seen english fans excuses about injury for their odi series loss here..so u cant deny it being a one way excuse route...the only reason y their r more number of posts by indian fans is simple-india has the largest cricket fans in the world so in a cricket site like this they will always outnumber other fans which may seems like arrogance for outsiders..no i m not saying u sud'nt enjoy this T20 win,y sud i?a win is a win..congrats for winning the T20I...bye

  • cyniket on October 30, 2011, 13:22 GMT

    @hindh88 have you notified the icc of their mistake? they seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that rankings are based on overall performance. why is it so vital to some people that other's are miserable. if indians are happy because they've won the odi series and england are happy because they're winning the tests and t20's, then that's great- everybody's happy.

  • dicky_boy on October 30, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    Mr womnatts pleasure arguing with u mate , u r a true passionate fan , no hard feelings hope we get to see you during Australia series ,please publish

  • brittop on October 30, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    @David_Gravitas: I'm not extrapolating T20 form to test matches, I'm extrapolating England's test match form to India (although plenty of Indian fans have been extrapolating ODI dominance to test matches). I was having a wobble in my belief that they could do well due to the poor showing in the ODIs, but the T20 win returns my faith that they can play in India.

  • on October 30, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    I think the reason England is bafflingly poor at 50 over cricket is the same reason it is my least favourite format of the game - T20 is like 50 over cricket, but with the middle overs drudgery taken out.

    England players historically struggle to turn over the strike - only a very few players have been good at it - Thorpe, Fairweather, and more recently Morgan. Not coincidentally, all 3 were/are excellent players of spin.

    England are also better at T20 than ODI because it suits their bowlers - in T20, you can't simply hope to bottle up an end, you MUST attack - this is why Brett Lee, Shaun Tate, Steve Finn and other express pace bowlers do quite well. Early, top order wickets make life that much harder for those to come after; there's no time to settle in, you have to get on with it - and clobbering your first ball for 4 when it's 90+ mph is no easy feat.

    India are polar opposites - weak pace bowling and top order, but excellent, wristy mid-order batsmen and spinners.

  • satish619chandar on October 30, 2011, 12:56 GMT

    @Wombats.. I do agree that England were miles better than India in England tests and there is no shame.. If u look at the commebts most Indian fans d ve blasted IPL and packed schedule along woth Raina n Bhajjis ibcapavb ility in foreign soil during that series.. The reasons for excues were given because u english fans were gng overboard and provoking even tjough u guys clearly kbow the Zaheer favtor was a major thing wich destroyed the bowling attack mentally without a on field mentor.. Fine with it..Cheers for all the doscussions.. Hope England stay on top in tests when they come back to India and India ll be on a position to regain top spot if they win.. It ll make things onteresting and ll create the real payback series..

  • on October 30, 2011, 12:43 GMT

    @ spiritwithin. Mine and many others comments are in response to the endless rubbish put on here abot how great India is and that England were lucky to beat them etc. Having attemped to reason with said silly people i decided nstead to join them and use the logic employed by most Indian supports. Rest assured if India had one this forum would be filled with Indian chuntering about how this tour prooved that ~India has a better test team and similar rubbish. The fact is Endland do have the last laugh, we done what the Indian team could not: win away from home.

  • jmcilhinney on October 30, 2011, 12:40 GMT

    @spiritwithin, thanks for making the same post twice. You are quite right that there are quite a few England fans commenting here about England winning the this one T20 game. Why wouldn't there be? This is the report on this one T20 game isn't it? Why would we post about the last 5 losses here when we already posted about them in their own reports? We are not ignoring those losses; we are just happy to have won a game. Are you saying that we should not be happy to have won this game? The fact that we aren't wailing about those losses doesn't mean that we deny they happened, although some India fans have still not accepted the India losses in England. This game shows that England can win in India and it suggests that, while England may still be inconsistent at best and rubbish at worst in ODIs, they can play T20s. Pietersen was the main contributor with the bat but let's not forget the improved bowling and fielding.

  • kingcobra85 on October 30, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    bring back murali vijay and parthiv for t20....please stop yusuf pathan and irfan pathan fans from cricinfo...they are spoiling Indian cricket team

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 30, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    @brittop, while I agree with you to some extent, I don't think we can conclude either way at England's potential to win test matches in India by extrapolating the results from t20 games. And here you are trying to use the positive result of a one off t20 to talk about the chances of England in the best of the formats i.e test matches. It would be a shame to judge ones test match prowess based on the result of just one t20. England will of course be competitive in Tests based on their expertise in tests, but not that they succeeded in one game in hit and giggle cricket, IMO.

  • Hindh on October 30, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    @ wombats England can do justice to their No 1 ranking only when they win in india (tests).And the signs are very depressing as they are struggling to handle spin. Until Eng win in india they are l not No 1...

  • on October 30, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    Test cricket matches are nothing but two glorified successive ODI games.

  • chapathishot on October 30, 2011, 11:25 GMT

    England lost in the one dayers by margins which cannot even worse than Associate standards.Now one win in T20 cant change any thing.Same as India white washing England in India in ODIs and losing the test series 4-0 in England.I would have prefered a little more fight from Indians in England in Tests (One days were close) than a 5-0 home ODI win.But every thing happens for good like the first round exit in 2007 made players charged up to win the WC in 2011.The loss in England will make India a better test team and also will be a lesson for administratorsl .For England they have to come a face the music in sub-continent again to prove their standing from January.Wait and watch.I will also be watching that @5wombats

  • spiritwithin on October 30, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    lol its comical how english fans and few other supporters started jumping and mocking team india after just one win in this eng tour to india ignoring the 5-0 routing in odi's..lol if one win after the drubbing makes them so happy its not hard to guess y they r always on high octane mood, so much noise even after such a disastar tour is funny and damn hilarious,in eng the indian team was nowhere compared to eng but here in india the eng team with just one win and 5 losses r no match to india,that solitary win is not changing the fact that eng were humiliated just like india was in eng...

  • 5wombats on October 30, 2011, 10:15 GMT

    @hindh88; what a little hissy fit. Why do you bring down the tone? Don't you appreciate the great masters doing fine things with the willow or ball? Doesn't matter whose side; the wombats always applaud Dravid, KP, Bell, Cook, Finn, Hussey, etc when they perform well. They admire the fine performances and don't whine about the other side, show bitterness or make excuses when England get beaten. The wombats cannot be blamed for the fact that England is dominant in Test & T20 formats. Their #1 rank has been tested in Australia away and by India at home. By winning 3 Tests decisively in Australia in 2010/11 England have shown that they can win away from their home soil. India have not. India had the chance in the summer to prove their #1 status. They failed. This is not boasting or opinion, this is hard fact. Don't talk of 2007 or make the "injuries" excuse. Humbleness is saying; "well played England". However, India have another chance; go to Australia and win. The wombats will watch....

  • 1st_april on October 30, 2011, 10:15 GMT

    LOL..."India are tough to beat at home".....and England WHITEWASH India in India!!....so the "revenge series" will now continue against WI after a brief interruption by England!!...India 100-0 WI....zup!!...zup!!...HA HA HA

  • on October 30, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    Funny old game, England no.1 in the longest and shortest forms of the game but still pretty dodgy at ODIs. Figure that one out!

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2011, 10:09 GMT

    @jmcilhinney - Completely agree with you. Those formats in that order of importance. As I have posted before if you gave Flower a choice of retaining their no1 status in test cricket or the T20 world cup he'd choose the former without a pause. I would love to see England win the OD world cup and be ranked 1 in all 3 formats and while retaining the test status is of most importance , I'd still love to see us perform at OD level and it is frustrating that we cant esp when we can do it at T20 level. I also don't buy the Indians who say they don't care about this game. IPL is a big part of Indian cricket and I'm sure you'd find many who diss this game were commenting with passion on the CLT20 tournament. Also I believe that India winning would have meant England being displaced by SL and India rising above England to nr 2. Bearing in mind that many on here get off on their gloating ....

  • spiritwithin on October 30, 2011, 10:05 GMT

    @Dave Brown..is'nt its hilarious that english fans are now jumping high after just one win in 6matches,agreed india were outclassed in eng but that does'nt mean winning just one solitary game here in india is making any difference and saved ur pride...after looking at the comments here where english fans r boasting with just one win regardless of the fact that eng lost 5-0 in odi proves how low the english pride are,matter of the fact is in england india was no match for eng and in india the english team is no match for india regardless of just one T20 win...

  • brittop on October 30, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    @jmcilhinney: When I said these matches didn't matter, it was mainly to wind up Indian fans! I don't mean that I don't want England to win every match they play and I'm not using it as an excuse for defeat. Having says that, I do believe that test cricket is the premier format of the game, and do struggle to get excited about ODIs/T20I outside of the World Cup/Championship.

  • spiritwithin on October 30, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    @sabee66..>>TEAM INDAI , AFTER PLAYING SO MUCH IPL AND 20/20, STILL THEY GET BASHED ALWAYS>>its not just india but almost every nation which plays lots of T20 nowadays in domestic circuit,if india has IPL then so does aus,eng,SA,pak and others have their own domestic league,and india does'nt plays that many T20I compared to any other nation..if england won the T20I just be happy with that rather than making silly comments..

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    @maddy20 - You call it the hit and giggle format and yet you were getting really enthusiastic when commenting about the CLT20 tournament. I'm guessing the format becomes more of a joke when India aren't winning

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2011, 9:45 GMT

    @dicky_boy/ joma13/ maddy20/ Gokul Ganga-Nair/ Kritika Prasad/ cyniket/Vaibhav Kharbanda - The usual suspects , the usual excuses . It's good to see some folk reacting well in both victory and defeat - please publish cricinfo

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on October 30, 2011, 9:37 GMT

    England may be the better test team by a country mile, but India have reminded them of why they won the world cup last year.

  • kingishere on October 30, 2011, 9:10 GMT

    There are a lot of people saying that England is best side in T20 and TESTS. The fact is that they may be a good side in test but in limited over cricket both T20 and 50 over one day INTL they are a rediculous side. They wait for things to happen which can work out in tests but in the limited over version you have to think fast and act instantly which they lack big time. They may be ranked 1 in T20 but that is only hilights the faulty ranking system. They are and will be a minnow. Except Peterson they dont have anyone to boast about.

  • Valavan on October 30, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    @maddy20, India's no.1 in tests lasted for 1 yr and 8 months. not 2yrs and 8 months. Btw Its just 2nd after ranking was introduced, But in general it could be 4th or 5th. OK. Anyway i am happy india moves on without top guys. cricinfo please publish.

  • mrcool on October 30, 2011, 8:39 GMT

    Dont be Harsh on Robin uthappa.He got chance after three years..If he gets as many chances as parthiv patel or rohit sharma ,he will perform better.Just one match failure cant prove anything where everyone failed.

  • satish619chandar on October 30, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Very good win for england.. The way the seaners bowled on the slow track is a lesson for others... Finn truly impressive.. I gess England had more positives.. Samit n Finn upto mark.. India had RJ to get some good form . Rahane need to learn cover drive.. Improve his front foot play.. Rather unusual for indian player to be poor in front foot.. Lots of work need to be done by him... Aaron n Yadav need to mature and sooner..

  • jasonpete on October 30, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    @jonathonjosephs,how about pak beat srilanka,srilanka rank no.5 where as pak rank no.6.what you think?

  • sabee66 on October 30, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    I FEEL SORRY FOR TEAM INDAI , AFTER PLAYING SO MUCH IPL AND 20/20, STILL THEY GET BASHED ALWAYS....LOL

  • jmcilhinney on October 30, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    People who keep saying that this match here doesn't matter and these matches there don't matter are just making themselves look foolish. I'm sure that T20s don't matter to some people and even ODIs don't matter to some people but those people probably aren't reading stories about them and certainly aren't commenting on them. If you're posting here then you obviously care. I much prefer test cricket to OD cricket and much prefer OD cricket to T20 cricket but every match matters. I believe that this testless tour should never have been scheduled but the games still matter. Some say that this 5-0 result in ODIs proves that India will win the next test series in India but if T20 results aren't affected by ODI results then why should tests? Strauss was the one who scored 150 against India in the WC and he will be there for the next test series. India were complacent when they came to England to play a test series and look what happened. Assume future results at your peril.

  • maddy20 on October 30, 2011, 7:43 GMT

    @BravoBravo That briefest period lasted for 2 years and 8 months. THe second longest after Australia. You can check the stats to verify it. India is re-building as its preparing for post-Sachin, Dravid, Laxman era. We would not mind losing a few as long as our youngsters make good use of the opportunities and give it their best shot.

  • on October 30, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    Samit Patel, Virender Sehwag, and a couple of decades ago players like David Boon had proved that they can throw their weight around for their teams' benefit. So, the coaches, trainers, administrators and selectors need not worry too much about such weighty issues, as long as those players are damn effective and give heavy contributions to their teams' success. They have to see that these players are fit (not necessarily slim) and injury free.

  • on October 30, 2011, 6:54 GMT

    KP & Morgan seems to have developed into good players of spin after playing with Indian mates in their respective IPL teams.I have seen their Indian friends giving them tips during pre-match net sessions. Same way, Indian youngsters can benefit a lot by learning from the English players, how to play swing and/or bounce better, that too on faster tracks, if they play County Cricket. Indian bowlers will also become better in playing in those conditions, by playing in County Cricket ( e.g. Zaheer). I regret to see NO pro-active measures by BCCI in this regard. Even when players get such assignments, BCCI comes into the scene, like a Big Boss, whose approval need to be obtained! The biggest benefit of county / club cricket is mutual learning and thus enrichment of the game itself.

  • on October 30, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    i think BCCI should consider reducing the length of IPL atleast hereafter...This is not the first time ,IND is losing bad after IPL,2009 t20 WC,2010 t20 WC(without winning a single match in supereights) and losing ICC Rank 1 in Tests to ENG etc....Instead of arranging tournament in such a way that all teams face all the remaining times twice..the teams can be split into groups and can be conducted like t20 World Cup..The tournament will end soon,The players will play only lesser no of matches and get enough rest...

  • dicky_boy on October 30, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    Oh@just ipl if given a choice between a world cup victory and no one ranking what do you take lol haha if given a choice between a ashes victory and no 1 what do you take One careless Lowly t 20 after crushing 5-0 defeats without any competition lol the t20 has no meaning to it

  • dinner on October 30, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    Its wrong to say India are better than England since England have been able to register one win on indian turf while india playing more matches in england couldnt even register a win.I would say England never had anyone in batting department who could steer their innings through.England have been jolted since morgan is out of team and their bowling lacks anderson.broad

  • johnathonjosephs on October 30, 2011, 6:10 GMT

    Interesting. India- Number 3 in ODI rankings, England - Number 6 and England lose to India. India - Number 4/5 in T20 rankings, England - Number 1 and England beat India India - Number 3 in Tests, England - Number 1 in Tests and ????? what you think?

  • Patchmaster on October 30, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    WELL DONE ENG - love it when a plan comes together, out played India in every department.

  • on October 30, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    when india lost matches in england, many commented on fletchers role, what do they say now. for both teams the advantage was home pitch certainly. for wins n losses players performance is the reason

  • Hindh on October 30, 2011, 5:29 GMT

    England players should learn some humbleness while losing on the field and not act like spoilt kids while losing matches... They thought they could roll over india after beating them in england but were given a torrid reality check that Eng were nowhere near to even run close an opposition at their home grounds... At one point there seemed no difference b/w eng players and wombats here in comments section who always was whining all thru 5 matches.......

  • Hindh on October 30, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    India were a 15 to 20 runs short england would have again succumbed to spin ... It was absolute fun to watch eng struggle to spin all through the tour and their inability to dismiss dhoni. Few people like wombats and matty have finally got something after an absolute thrashing england received from india.....

  • on October 30, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    @5wombats I shall send u a message after England finishes a test series in India.

  • on October 30, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    Funny that when India actually do well in a series, it actually means nothing. India are a joke. They can't win overseas whereas England may have lost the ODI series that meant nothing, but they won the T20 to retain their rightful place as kings of the format and they beat Australia in the Ashes in AUSTRALIA. India, it's time to step out of the way and let the other teams wash you away.

  • Precioustar84 on October 30, 2011, 5:13 GMT

    I'm sorry to disappoint some England fans. I don't think most of the Indians really considered this series as a COMPLETE revenge or in fact, I don't think some people like me even cared to call it a revenge. If that word were true, then revenge would be ever completed by either side. Neither is dominant in any format. England are current test top rank holders but their rank is yet to be tested with other teams. Both just proved they are better in their home soils but neither is capable of holding on to the top rank for a long long time. I think you need to keep your wins at home to stay at the top so nothing wrong if India did it and nothing wrong if England does it. After all, you should be dominant in your own backyard. It would be shameful if you weren't. True challenge for both teams is to win abroad and keep it consistent. England can't win or can't win easily in subcontinents; India can't win or can't win easily in non-subcontinents so nothing to boast from both sides. pls pub.

  • JustIPL on October 30, 2011, 4:45 GMT

    Despite of a whitewash India got nothing. They are still down in ODI rankings despite being wrld cup winners. On the other hand England maintained their supermacy in tests and t20s. It cannot be called revange as England stripped INdia of test number one position while they did not allow india to distrub their t20 rankings.

  • Gupta.Ankur on October 30, 2011, 4:45 GMT

    I don't think this result should matter much for either side.......england would still continue to loose tests and odi's here whenever they come here next....

    Also, it was diwali a few days back, so indian players definitely found it tough to focus on cricket......so it doesn't make much difference....

  • jasonpete on October 30, 2011, 4:10 GMT

    @bravobravo, ICC ranking is not justified even now also..Except the great Aus team,currently no one deserves the top ranking in test and odi's.Everyone win at home and lose outside.England odi rank is justified as they are very very below average odi team.srilanka,India and southafrica performs better than England in any day.when it comes to test ranking,India ranked top before England tookover,but both dominates in home and bad outside,in that case I prefer south Africa deserved no.1 rank as they perform good outside next to Aussie team,but I seriously doubt test ranking are flawed.By next year,England won't be able to hold the top spot when they play against pak and srilanka,guess south Africa will over take them.

  • on October 30, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Wel played England. They have thoroughly outplayed India. Pietersen's innings was a lesson on playing under these conditions.

    India does not seem to have any hold on this format of the game.

  • me54321 on October 30, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    Quite relieved we won that one. Not because I care that much about t20, but it saves me from reading a bunch of comments crowing about England being knocked off the No.1 spot etc. I still believe t20 is a bit of a lottery, but England's stats are beginning to stack up now, and I may at some point in the future begin to take this format seriously, but then again maybe not. Mightily impressed with Finn, less than a year ago he was dropped for not keeping the pressure on during the ashes. But now look at him; he's our best ODI and t20 bowler, and that's on flat indian pitches as well. IF he can avoid any significant injuries, he may well have a special career ahead of him.

  • on October 30, 2011, 2:07 GMT

    well all you guys !! do you think india won the wc by luck??

    certainly no....

    you see england lost to a young developing side of indian cricket!!

    with the lack of support from sachina and muscle power from sehwag at the top order,its shame that england couldn't capitalize

    take the tour of india to 'england'. its a typical england pitch where bowlers of both side gets almost even bounce and swing....there was only praveen kumar who impressed the english batsmen. and along with it the unlucky down pour washed away our two wondeful games that india would have won easily.

  • Lmaotsetung on October 30, 2011, 0:56 GMT

    This is so frustrating about the England team. I guess ODIs present something different in that it gets them in 2 minds and they have no plans for whatever situations they get themselves in. In test matches they can take as long as they need to get settled while in T20 it's just see ball hit ball and not worry about wickets in hands and the likes. ODIs on the other hand is somewhere between these 2 extremes and this is where Eng have trouble. I still believe Flower will get the ODI set right...we just need to be patient. As far as the tour is concerned, Kieswetter and Bopara are done! Time to find replacements. Bairstow need more time with the senior team. He needs the experience and I think he is the real deal. It was painful to watch Trott bat even when he made that 98no. Painful watching him trying to accelerate as if he was climbing the Himlayas. Frustrating watching Pietersen not carry on. He can dominate any bowler at will if he gets his head str8.

  • Meety on October 30, 2011, 0:52 GMT

    Finn has bowled very well, I'll need to see his action to see if it has altered since the Ashes, where I've thought he had the worst action ever in Tests. His done something to tweak things for the better.

  • on October 30, 2011, 0:52 GMT

    By One loss,people should not comment bad about India..England bowled really well.. KP is a class player and he has proved that..MSD should have given raina a try when Yusuf is hitten that bad...moreover 120 is not a good total even if it is a slow pitch..because it gives confidence to the batsman to play a mind game against bowlers..140-150 would have been a decent score..i m sure india would have won that..As I believe T20 is not the format of the game..Yusuf Pathan is not consistent at international level..I think we were short of a bowler yesterday..It was clearly evident from the match..we had only 3 regular bowlers..Instead of Tiwary,Rahul Sharma should have been picked..despite of picking 8 batsman,120 is a bad score..This is just a consolation for England..This is not a decider or something..

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 23:59 GMT

    Biggest pluses have been Finn and Patel. Both should go on the tours after Xmas. Patel plays spin very well and has outbowled Swann all tour. Finn has come along at just the right time to keep Broad, Anderson, Bresnan, Tremlett and Onions on their toes.

  • 5wombats on October 29, 2011, 23:15 GMT

    Hey @brittop; Solid comment "Winning this game, indicates that they can win in India in a format they are good at". This is the key thing - the element of doubt. Put the element of doubt into any team or batsmans mind - and you are half way to winning the battle. Despite all the silly talk - England ARE good at Test cricket, and they ARE good at T20. Strange but true! India may not want to bring themselves to accept it - but England's overall performances in T20 and Tests at home & AROUND THE WORLD in the last 2 years are just better than Indias. Not boasting or opinion, just a statement of fact. India lost badly in England in 2011 - another fact which won't be far from Indian minds as the Tests in 2012 approach. They should also note that England's preparation for The Ashes of 2010/11 was meticulous, their execution ruthless. This led to England winning in Aus for the first time since 1987. Number in 1 Tests, Champs & Number 1 in T20 - as Meat Loaf says; "Two outta three ain't bad"!

  • dicky_boy on October 29, 2011, 22:50 GMT

    Jg2704 respect mate u truly speak unbiased , whether it's a victory or a loss

  • BravoBravo on October 29, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    Now IND position is justified in ICC T20 ranking. Though I lost of faith in ICC ranking when IND became #1 in ICC test ranking for the brriefest period. Once they come back after AUS tour IND will slip further down in all formats of the game. It is hard to fathom how ENG lost all (5) the ODIs against IND, suprising and suspicious. That tells me that both ENG or IND are below average ODI side.

  • on October 29, 2011, 22:07 GMT

    Bad call, by Dhoni. India have always fancied theiir chances chasing a target, and should have fielded first. The English bowlers would have struggled in the second half.

  • yorkshirematt on October 29, 2011, 21:57 GMT

    England can play the longest and shortest forms of the game but not the one in between. Baffling.

  • CandidIndian on October 29, 2011, 21:43 GMT

    Congrats to England fans, India were outplayed in this match.I hope we will witness a great series next year in October,best wishes.

  • JG2704 on October 29, 2011, 21:22 GMT

    Re Swann - I think he was in charge when England folded in chasing a very low score vs WI so I'm not getting too carried away. The thing with Swann is that he is one of our more senior players and I thing England are looking for younger captains - hence Cook and Broad were chosen. Personally I think Cook might not be the best OD captain as he always seems a little cautious to me and Broad I feel will be a little too fiery and I worry about it affecting his form. I don't think KP did much wrong when he was captain except fall out with the coach. I think Morgan could make a good captain in ODI/T20s but I don't think Broad has been given a run as captain yet and I think they'll stick with Cook even though I worry about it affecting his test form

  • JG2704 on October 29, 2011, 21:10 GMT

    Well. A consolation for us to take home with us. It was a top team performance. All our bowlers bowled well - with the exception of Swann who I believe India target so as he doesn't settle. The umpiring was dreadful. We could have had Dhoni out some time before India got to 100 and KP was never out , but at least he'd done the damage already. BTW the umpiring helped England also so I'm not accusing of bias , just ineptness. Think you guys may be a bit harsh on YP. I've seen him look very destructive both for India and vs Somerset in CLT20.It was a day when every Indian batsman with the exception of Kohli/ Reina were scratchy at best. Bopara and Patel proved for me why they should always be picked above Bell in this format because they can bowl some overs. Patel has been quite consistent with the ball.KP was scratchy early on but proved what he can do when in the zone , also thought he was refreshingly honest re riding his luck. One dampener as a Somerset fan was not seeing Buttler bat

  • JG2704 on October 29, 2011, 20:58 GMT

    @ Zahir Hassan - England excel in the long format games. It's the middle format games where they struggle

  • JG2704 on October 29, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    @Suresh Kamatam/Nampally/ravi_shankar88/anshu.s/Stouffer/ Dravid_Gravitas/ swwastik123/ SnowSnake/Shamshir Hussain/Sanjv - Fair play to you all for giving England some credit for the win , even if the format is a bit of a lottery at times

  • on October 29, 2011, 20:48 GMT

    The moment Indian pace bowlers are on, getting runs become the most easiest task...no matter one dayers, test or t20s!

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 20:47 GMT

    So let me get this right! England are the best side HOME and AWAY in Tests. England are the best side HOME and AWAY in T20Is. England beat the world champions 3-0 at HOME in ODIs. So we're 5/6ths of the way to being the best side at absolutely everything. Just need a couple of AWAY series wins in ODIs. Even Australia couldn't manage that! Nor the great West Indies side, who never made an impact in the T20 rankings!

  • Nerk on October 29, 2011, 20:41 GMT

    Good work from Finn. He has really grown on this tour, leading in a manner that Bresnan should have. He is a good bowler that one, and should be for many years to come.

  • on October 29, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    India should not have allowed England a win on this tour. Leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

  • bumsonseats on October 29, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    yes england won a T2020 game end of. but like the 50 odis i would like us to be playing spinners much better not just the big hitting but been able to move the ball about for 1s and 2s. we are ok in tests against spinner but struggle in the shorter game. as the the wc winners and top of the league in 20 overs. i know a few of the guys after the ashes said, they did not want to go to the ipl. but it would do their game good to do so, as well as playing but also just talking to indian guys in their ipl teams our best players of spin are KP and morgan who just happen to play ipl. dpk

  • Nutcutlet on October 29, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    A compensatory win for England that confirms that their #1 ranking in this format isn't some sort of fluke. It was good too to see that a bit of character shone through this final fixture. Although Swann's bowling was once again below par (a matter he must address before he plays India again), I was encouraged by his captaincy: proactive bowling changes; challenging field sets; moving Samit up to 4 - all contributed to England's win, besides the fine displays by Finn & KP. In Andy Flower's rethink of the failed ODIs campaign, he might well consider making Swann captain, which would allow Cook to focus on test cricket. Most England supporters would, IMO, think that was right. Finn underscored his progress and will take some adroit managing: he can't be expected to play every game in all formats. We can all write the script if that happens! England must rotate the quick bowlers tour by tour, match by match. They are trump cards, every one, if they're played right! Bye, India!C U soon!

  • Tim40621 on October 29, 2011, 19:57 GMT

    England are number 1 in the most important form of the game test cricket and the added bonus is were the best in the most entertaining form of the game T20. To be fair i couldnt care less about 50over cricket its a dying art. Less of that and more tests i say!

  • frazell on October 29, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    Agree that Swann for Broad would be a good captaincy change, but Swann's bowling at the moment is a rapidly growing concern. For all saying the Indian's didn't care as it was after the main event, England didn't stop caring after the tests at home, still won T20's and ODI's 1-0 and 3-0. Even though England won, we still played spin very poorly.

  • gm47 on October 29, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    Posted by joma13 on (October 29 2011, 16:31 PM GMT) so... England won one game on their travels in India, while India won how many against England in England?

    answer = 0... none... zero....zilch :) :)

  • on October 29, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    FINAL SCORE: Tests: England 4 India 0; ODIs: India 5 England 3; T20s: England 2 India 0; Well-argued, articulate, unbiased posts on Cricinfo: England 2,712 India 6.

  • jim007 on October 29, 2011, 19:04 GMT

    India missed a trick ... where did Uthappa and Y Pathan come from ... Well done to England ...

  • Iddo555 on October 29, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Have India forgot that they got smashed 7-0 in odi's and tests just a couple of months ago? England - number 1 in tests and 20-20. Remember that Indian fans?

  • Street_Hawk on October 29, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    I love how 5wombats refers himself in third person just like Chris Gayle does

  • on October 29, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    The moment Indian pace bowlers are on, getting runs become the most easiest task...no matter one dayers, test or t20s!

  • kevinpp24 on October 29, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    They asked for a turner, they prepared a real turner, they loaded the team with batsmen, they loaded the team with spinners, they won the toss, they batted first, they struggled against our pacers in slow pitch, they couldn't go over 6rpo, they introduced spinners early, they couldn't hold theirs catches, they lost the match by 6 wics with 8 balls remaining and they say we were lucky.

  • Lmaotsetung on October 29, 2011, 18:47 GMT

    lol...world champ are still world champ...#1 still #1 and ofcourse the diwali excuse...LMAO

  • kevinpp24 on October 29, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    Well a win atlast. Nice to get back home with a cup. If they can win tests and t20s but not odis then it got something to do with their mind. Anyway well done Eng.

  • on October 29, 2011, 18:43 GMT

    one lost and the indian fans are like oh, england got lucky...wow... most of u really dnt know cricket at all jus running ur mouths. india were outplayed clearly. england bowled well,batted and fielded well... so what.. its jsut one game,india won the ODI series easily too.. hear u indian fans are talking about oh they were tired,come on....smh...cnt wait for ya'll to go AUS,wanna hear ur excuses then.

  • karl43 on October 29, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    IPL is massive in india so for some indian fans to dismiss this defeat as worthless is just pathetic, they wanted to whitewash england but were not good enough so england are best in the world in 2 out of 3 formats which is pretty good in my opinion, england have salvaged some pride today.

  • Nampally on October 29, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    @Abhimanuyu: You are correct.While KP's on slaught single handedly carried England to victory, Pathan's bowling did the same for Indian defeat. I was hoping that Dhoni will not repeat his mistake & remember the way WI beat England in the T-20 in England couple of months back. Laeft hand orthodoc spin + Leg spin combo. He had Rahul the best T-20 bowler in India waiting for a chance. What does he do - he tells him to warm the bench again.Why is Dhoni so much against Rahul & If he is why is Rahul in the Test squad to play against WI?.Dhoni states India need to improve in bowling. Yet he has all the talent at his disposal and he makes real dumb moves. Even if he had included Pathan, why was Pathan sent after Tiwary & Jadeja? He is a slugger - put him after Raina to hit his way. Tiwary & Jadeja are youngsters with little experience of T-20. If Pathan fails then Tiwary & Jadeja would play more responsibly. These are lessons Dhoni must learn- Not repeate same bone headed mistakes.

  • ashes61 on October 29, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    Well, it seems ENG are still ranked No 1 (& deservedly so) & are also reigning world champions (& deservedly so) at T20, as well as being ranked No 1 (& VERY deservedly so) at Test cricket. ENG's ranking in ODIs remains no more than middling, altho' was improving slightly before this tour. The upshot? Well, we'll accept the T20 plaudits but not too seriously - it's a form of the game which really doesn't matter, although internationals certainly leave the IPL/CL panto far behind. ODI status counts for a bit more, but by how much? Depends on the marketing in whichever country's involved. But way, way ahead of all this pyjama stuff comes the real thing, which TESTS cricketers in all conditions and circumstances. How far SA are behind ENG may be revealed in these 2 Tests v AUS. IND & AUS are no more than average/middling in Tests and will each compete for the "average" slot for a few years yet. IND are one of the three best ODI sides & the best on their own pitches.

  • brittop on October 29, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    As we all seem to be in "sensible" mode and not "winding each other up" mode, I'll keep it up! I was starting to doubt my belief that England would be competitive in next year's tests after the way they played in all the ODIs (natural pessimism of an England fan - and forgetting how good India are in this format). Winning this game, indicates that they can win in India in a format they are good at, so I'm really looking forward to next year once again. Hope it's an excellent series.

  • on October 29, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    we proved indians are better hosts than england,,we never send our guests empty handed,,lol,,

  • on October 29, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    okay...!we indian always greet the guest with gesture nd v just gave them a dewali gift...so they do not lose everything...hahaha...english team gave their best in india tour but got hammered in each nd everygame...this dewali gift 2 u guys is the memory of this tournament...nd i knw english team would never forget this brutal loss

  • Toon-Harmy on October 29, 2011, 18:29 GMT

    So India win the 50-over series but England take the Twenty20 honours. On that basis I declare, without argument, that this tour ended 1-1 ...

  • ABRAR-JANJUA on October 29, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    plenty of lame excuses are expected from poor indians fans...at least England win one game on the tour..

  • SanjivAwesome on October 29, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    I am an India fan. I salute England for their well earned victory - it was fun cheering for England. Finn was fabulous, fast and fantastic. KP a good entertainer. And now for an observation for India. Let us restrict Robin and Yusuf at domestic cricket level. They perform well there.

  • playitstraight on October 29, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    No problem at all for us Indian fans, because we don't mind England winning a T20 match in which our batting and bowling greats didn't play in, while England used a full-strength team. If all of the regular players had played today, then I doubt England would have restricted India to 120. This was like a practice match, which is why MS Dhoni played so slowly in the match, because he really didn't care about the result. Also, the wicket was ugly-looking as he described it and hard to score on, so that's why India had a low total. All in all, congratulations to England but you still have a long way to go in the shorter formats!

  • 1st_april on October 29, 2011, 18:23 GMT

    England whitewash India.....again!!!....LOL...England own 2/3 formats....:-)

  • 1st_april on October 29, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    @HiyerNHiyer why just last 15 years??....look at last 50 years....Engladn are clearly better...:-P..

  • ramj289 on October 29, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Pradeepbhat, nice comment, made me chuckle.

    Spence, I think Swann is far superior to Broad (from what we've seen) and Morgan as choice for captain. He also seems to have the knack of getting the best out of Bopara, which nobody else has done yet.

    To summarise, it was hardly surprising to see England perform dismally in the ODIs and winning the T20. We've seen how incompetent the English team has been in ODIs, particularly away from home, and it was a fair reflection of the overall abilities of the teams' ODI ability. OTOH, England in 2020's are a good side and they showed that today as well.

  • CricketingStargazer on October 29, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Inteesting to see that, despite the IPL, India languish in 6th in the ICC T20 table, an astonishing 24 points behind England. In ODIs the gulf in class in in India's favour; in T20 India are mediocre and England are a class act. A deseved win for England, despite the weak opposition. Superb from Finn and Pietersen and useful cameos from Kieswetter - giving ealy impetus - and Bopara although against stronger teams more players will have to score at better than a run a ball: only Kieswetter has done it all tour.

  • on October 29, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    Great performance by England. Those who are trying to refer England's poor performance in ODI's here, MUST shut up. Because ODI's were different thing and are past now as is the case with indians poorer performance in England. The end point is that England have played well today FULLSTOP

  • Valavan on October 29, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    Comon english fans, i read a great excuse here from puntertakeson and dickyboy, COMING BACK FROM DIWALI, never heard of such, i wrote precisely before, some are delaying to write in cricinfo coz they were thinking about a better excuse to be given, anyway that doesnt matter but i enjoyed the excuse: COMING BACK FROM DIWALI. Now Indians hate the T20 format which they praised back in 2007. cricinfo please publish

  • bigdhonifan on October 29, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    Lol... english fans are enjoying the win... they dont know, this is onky the 4th t20I in India.

  • landl47 on October 29, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    Ah well, at least England won more games in India than India did in England. That leaves England as top test team in the world and top T20 team in the world, not too shabby. When they get the ODI format sorted out (in the subcontinent, because they have already shown they can beat anyone in England) then they'll be on their way to being a great team. India are very tough at home, as they've shown; their real test is going to be playing in Australia and then hosting England next year in a test series. Their young bowlers looked promising in the couple of games they played, so those should be good match-ups. See you next year, guys.

  • Valavan on October 29, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    @puntertakeson, hilarious excuse coming from diwali, coming from a movie late night, haha, anyway england won and i am happy for my team. cricinfo please publish

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 29, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    It's comical by the English fans how they whine about their pathetic record in ODIs, yet they jump onto the bandwagon when their team wins in LOTTERY cricket, A.K.A T20s !! India are clearly light years away from England in the 50 over format. In tests too India will surely make a good recovery to get back on top. But coming to the point, England need some coaching lessons in how to play 50 over cricket. They are not only weak but extremely LOST in their approach to 50 overs cricket. Their fans claim the lack of interest in general towards the format which to me is pure DENIAL. T20 is an ugly offspring of cricket and a victory in it shouldn't really be anything to jump by. The English fans can jump all they want, but the fact they are pathetic in 50 overs cricket remains firm.

  • subbass on October 29, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    spence. I think Swann should be skipper of both the T-20 and the 50 over side, of course this won't happen but that is my belief. And hey, number 1 in the world in T-20, world champions in T-20 and world number 1 in Tests. We must be doing something right, and are arguably the best all round side in the world, certainly are in rankings anyway, holding 2 of the 3 top spots. Still, we must not get too carried away with just 1 win on the whole tour. It still does puzzle me how we can be so poor at 50 over cricket outside of England, but it's something we can certainly improve on. And Eng v India is now a huge rivalry, just behind Australia for us and Pakistan for Injuns.

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 18:01 GMT

    Best formats of cricket: 1. TEST CRICKET, 2. T20I, 3. WOMEN'S CRICKET, 4. DOMESTIC CRICKET, 5. 'A' TEAM CRICKET, 6. UNDER 19 CRICKET, 7. odis.

  • SnowSnake on October 29, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Congratulations to England, a well deserved win. For all practical purposes, the game was over in first six overs.

  • puntertakeson on October 29, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    @valavan, we know what England is capable off, read the preview of this match. All player are coming from Diwali festival. Dohni said I'm returning home after 5 months. They all are missing there family during this time. This T20 is just a show off. And we played better. just unlucky england is lucky. Cricinfo publish this. And All the best to Liam

  • dicky_boy on October 29, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    Oh Matty Matty and wombats I can see how angry you are at the Indian team for decimating you in th Odis without even competition , anyway Indians went for Diwali were not even interested haha I know I sound silly lol , we were no one in the tests ,We won the t20 world cup ,Now have you won the world cup na na haha ,But leave it wombat england well played Now my favorite part was talking to mr wombatt and these English fans they are also really passionate about their game lol always arguments are fun pleasure arguing with you wombatt see you next year cheers have a good year may crincinfo may more. Passionate fans

  • Sehwag_Is_A_Flat_Track_Bully on October 29, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    Now Indians will say, "Who cares? It's only hit and giggle cricket", and the English will now have new found respect for this form of the game.

  • pradeepbhat on October 29, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    congrats england... seems world champs seem to win only in the format they won the world cup... LOL..

  • cyniket on October 29, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    "Dont blow your own trumpet yet england, you were demolished for the last month." extremely ironic comment there.

  • usernames on October 29, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    Well played, England! Credit where credit's due.

    Let's not talk about the one dayers because, as the tests, they are past too. England played really good cricket and were the deserving winners!

  • spence1324 on October 29, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    G.SWANN an apology!,i said on the pre came forum that he should not be our t20 stand in captain,however I now think he should be our t20 permeant captain!,my reasons on this,because G.swann has always been an attacking spinner and he is now bringing that to his captaincy(fielding placements,bowling changes etc),thoughts from england fans please?

  • Collegefastbowler on October 29, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    There was a lack of intensity from India in this match. Also tinkering with the winning team did not help. Both Pravin and Vinay Kumar should have been rested and Yadav and Aaron allowed to have a go at the England batsmen. Pathan looked a shadow of his former self and appears to have lost some confidence.

  • tamilselvan.m on October 29, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Team India will bounceback

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Nice Win England!! But they are not good in long format games.

  • Valavan on October 29, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    @Gokul, you demolished us for 15 days, but we demolished you for 2 months, will india get to test no.1. may be dream on for more.

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    horrible captaincy by msd.1.finn took 3 wickets n our most promising young quick n reverse swing master varun aaron was benched with dhoni's fav n useless vinay yet again selected ahead of varun..2 yusuf is useless bowler instead he could have given raina or kohli more overs when pietersn was batting..3.rainas drop catch turned this match in eng favour..overall reason for indias defeat 1 yusuf pathan 3 ovs 34 runs and vk pk 3 ovs 32 tht is total of 6 overs 66 runs..

  • HiyerNHiyer on October 29, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    Must concede that the Eng team have a good bowling attack and were better today. congrats, but then the Englist teams record in India is pathetic. India has won more games in England in the last 15 years than England in India. Cheers

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 17:28 GMT

    A wonderful win in this series. A whitewash in fact! England are the best T20 side in the world! Missing our best T20 batsman (The best in the world in fact!) in Eoin Morgan and our best limited overs seam bowler in Stuart Broad and we still won! The REVENGE revenge series BABY! YEAH! P.S. With Finn, Bresnan, Broad, Woakes, Harris, Meaker and Dernbach. England's quick bowling looks safe for years!!!!

  • jaggi.jagan on October 29, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    For those who cried for Uthappa's inclusion, I am sure they too saw enough of what he was capable. I was 100% sure that he would fail. It was hilarious to see fans asking for his inclusion as if he the next big thing to Indian Cricket. He is not considered great even at the domestic level. The inclusion of Manoj Tiwary is questionable too. I am not sure if Rohit Sharma was in the squad, he should have played instead of Tiwary if he was available. Now, wasup with this pedestrian bowler named Vinay Kumar? It is a joke or what? I guess England earned a victory against an Indian D side.

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    well intresting eng fans are on a new high with a victory in t20 cricket who wants to be good in that main thing is being good in 50 over cricket world champs we are and test cricket eng good there but test in pak sri and ind lets see what they have

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    Poor batting by the our batsmen. Not enough runs to defend. Anyways, who cares.

  • cric_fanatics on October 29, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    who cares about t20..hit and giggle cricket...

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    This shows the folly if tinkering with a winning team. Although Rahane is clearly not T20 material, Pathan and Uthappa are a waste of space. As Yuvraj is fit why was he not brought in place of Pathan? Question marks also remaim about Tiwari although a great fielder lacks international quality as a batsmen.

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    Disciplined bowling by English Pacers..............well Congrtz

  • pb10677 on October 29, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    good game, glad Eng got the win to preserve the no 1 T20 status. So no 1 of T20, and tests - just the bit in the middle that needs (considerable) improvement!

    There is another question arising - more longer term food-for-thought rather than immediate action - but should Swann be the permanent T20I captain??? A topic for healthy debate I'm sure!

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:06 GMT

    Well played, England. They deserved this victory! Fielding was top-class which was lagging in the ODIs. Craig Kieswetter's two good catches in early overs shifted India to the back-foot straight away. And other youngsters failed to capture the moment & fix their spot in the XI. Robin Uthappa should be given one more chance!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 29, 2011, 17:06 GMT

    Well played England. Hearty congrats to you all. You proved me wrong. India played like jokers/chokers while The Champs played like The Champs. So now, where are the KP naysayers? He looks in a totally different league. Class apart!! And to think that he just recovered from a broken bone! Take a bow! I say it again, KP, Trott and Bell should always form the core of the English middle order in Tests and ODIs and others should bat around that strong core. Is Cook listening? Have a safe flight back home Brits. See you all next year for another bout of firecrackers. What about Swann? Totally forgettable tour for him on these challenging tracks. He was taken to cleaners every time he came to bowl. Hope he bounces back when they tour us next year.

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 29, 2011, 17:05 GMT

    Good victory by England... FINALLY !! careless batting by India... this is what happens when you have too many power hitters in your team. One guy thinks: "heck if I get out now, there is another guy after me who can hit the ball into the stands ". I have had enough of these two teams. Time for a change, bring on the West Indies.

  • ratedstfu44 on October 29, 2011, 17:05 GMT

    those who were laughing at England #1 t20 team...take that on your face

    the tour is now adjusted...INDIA 1(ODI) ENGLAND 1(T20)

  • on October 29, 2011, 17:04 GMT

    Where r the Indian fans???? what happened to the "TEAM INDIAAAAAAA"????

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:59 GMT

    not even going to lie, watching the match the indians weren't trying and rightly so. They'd won the 5 match series the important one and had just finished diwali. Dont blow your own trumpet yet england, you were demolished for the last month.

  • The_bowlers_Holding on October 29, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    A win at last, Finn looks to be developing nicely and will add to the strength in depth of the tet side. All in all more questions than answers from the tour, thoroughly outclassed in the one day series and as our erstwhile Indian friends pointed out poor against the slow bowlers on Indian pitches. Overall a good calender year for English cricket for a team that is still developing, the secret of becoming a great side is a constant flux between experience and new talent and time will tell.

  • Shan156 on October 29, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    India were playing their 'Z' team. They were missing Sehwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Ishant, Harbhajan, Kapil Dev, Srinath, Kumble and Sreesanth. If they had played their first choice XI, England would not have scored even 1 run and would have conceded 300. Anyway, it is only T20 and not real cricket. ODI is real cricket because that is what we all like. Also, England got lucky and cheated. If not, even this 'Z' team would have crushed them. England are hopeless at cricket and were lucky to beat India in England. India are the best team ever.

    chak de India. jai ho India.

  • dicky_boy on October 29, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    SWANN BEST. SPINNER IN THE WORLD ha Please Our par timer jadeja was better lol But Yusuf Pathan what happened to hin guys last year this time he was awesome in southafrica

  • glorster on October 29, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    If Pieterson jumps so that his legs are the wrong way around and his left hand is at the bottom of the bat handle he is batting left handed and the ball from Raina could not have pitched outside leg stump.

  • Stouffer on October 29, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    Congrats to England on confirming their status as No. 1 T20 team in the world. World champions, and now beating India in their own back yard. Maybe England should be playing higher rated teams in future.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:46 GMT

    This is very poor display from india.They could have done much better.iam particularly disappointed about Dhoni's batting.He has never been a good batsman in international t20s.And in bowling dept. they could have taken rahul sharma in place of vinay kumar.And if pietersen's catch is taken by Raina it would have been totally different.Overall it is a dismal show by Indians and congrats England.Atlast u have got it after marching all the way in thorns.I still think they dont deserve no.1 spot.

  • 5wombats on October 29, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    Well, bearing mind that 300-500 posts were typical for the games India won the 70 or 80 posts we get for this India defeat should be interesting. Or will they? My guess is that those that bother to post will simply cut and paste their excuses from the defeats in the summer. My guesss is that we will find that India are still the better team in T20, the umpires were biased, it doesn't count because (in no particular order); India beat England in 2007, Shane Warne used to regularly bowl England out, this is Indias C team - our A team would have easily beaten you, England are weak outside of England, this win is fluke (even though Eng are t20 champs and ranked #1). You can be quite sure that all those "fans" doing the big talking won't be here though. This would be shame - because the wombats always enjoy reading excuses....NOT

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    It is official England are better than India - whoop whoop! We have done what the Indian could not and win away from home. After all the comments on here there might be a little 'egg' on a few faces. O yes, he who laughs last, laughs longest. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  • avik_chowdhury1980 on October 29, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    Never mind India... Go on...

  • aakkil on October 29, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    do rahane shows such good techniqe, he is a good middle order batsman,plays at no-3 for mumbai.now you pick him even as a test match opener.in fact he is the only batsmen in the series dismissed consistently behind wicket. Prepare him for middle order of india.

  • spence1324 on October 29, 2011, 16:39 GMT

    IPL MEETS THE WOULD T20 CHAMPIONS,THERE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE ONE WINNER!

  • anshu.s on October 29, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    Where are the people now who kept on n on n on for Yusuf Pathan n R. Utthappa.....Oaky conceded it was for one match, i was just having a did.....but i can say with cofidence M.Tiwari,P.Patel n Rahane are not just suited to shorter format of the game, from last series in eng and the last 2 games here in India Praveen Kumar and Vinay Kumar have me seriously worried as an Indian fan, and yeah well played England.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    "Samit Patel's combative hitting proved to be the ideal foil for Pietersen, and their 60-run stand from 46 balls broke the back of the run-chase. " Weren't England the one's chasing?? Correct your mistake.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:37 GMT

    Brutal error, Mr. Andrew Miller, England won a match against India in their 2005-06 tour, when Strauss was the man of the match in the single game they won. They lost the series though, 5-1.

  • dicky_boy on October 29, 2011, 16:37 GMT

    Finally a batting failure by india after 10 games including in England , happens I guess but England saved haha even in twenty over game they struggled against spin lol Lucky Kevin , we tried a new players guys, what do u think of Yusuf Pathan

  • joma13 on October 29, 2011, 16:31 GMT

    so... England won one game on their travels in India, while India won how many against England in England?

  • ravi_shankar88 on October 29, 2011, 16:31 GMT

    England deserved to win as they bowled well through out the indian innings. On the flip side we flopped in all 3 departments.uthappa missed a golden chance to make an impact in this team.and what does that overrated yusuf did? he can't bat,can't bowl,can't field..then why the hell he's in the team.rahul sharma could h've replaced him.and finally our winning chances were blown away when raina dropped pieterson.

  • correctcall on October 29, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    Nice to hear a pin drop both at Eden Gardens and here at Cricinfo. Level of umpiring way below international standard and interesting to note the Host Broadcaster's reluctance to show the pitch map on the dodgy Pietersen LBW. Further evidence of the need for India to join the rest of the world and embrace DRS?

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:28 GMT

    where are the Indain comments??. It's England the t20 champs.. again. Comprehensively!!!!!!!

  • gm47 on October 29, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    England still No 1 !!!! :)

  • the_wallster on October 29, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    swann outschooled dhoni with his captaincy today, making dhoni lok like a schoolboy. pietersen was ruthless. and all those crying out about england#s #1 status at the auguration of the t20 rankings can be quiet and shut up. record 8 wins on the trot as well as world champs, and they showed it today.

  • Valavan on October 29, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    Have enngland lost today, might be 200 comments by now, since they won, Indian fans are thinking of excuses to write here. Oh England, atleast you kept the head high in T20s. Congrats. cricinfo please publish

  • karl43 on October 29, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    At last, England have found some form and remain No1 at T20..A brilliant bowling performance from Steve Finn who has been the only silver lining to this disappointing short tour but which has ended on a moral boosting high note, a very good innings from KP considering his injury and a tour which was largely painful to watch has ended with a GREAT win...well done England

  • Abhimanyu on October 29, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    India would have won this match easily had Rahul Sharma been there in the team instead of Yusuf Pathan.

  • Nampally on October 29, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    Congratulations to England on their fine victory. Much touted Indian opener Uthappa failed as did Yusuf pathan. Dhoni might be regretting including these 2. Pathan was a very expensive bowler as well giving 34 runs in 3 overs. KP played a fine innings of power & switch hitting.His innings single handedly carried England to victory. Dhoni made his usual error in team selection. He appears to dislike Rahul Sharma - ace of T-20. In IPL he has fantastic figures and is ideal bowler for restricting runs. England lost to WI in ODI in England becauseWI used a left arm orthodox + a leg spinner in combo. Rahul & Jadeja would have caused similar situiation but for Dhoni's poor team selection. Actually Rahul has been warming the bench for 6 games in a row and is picked for the WI series test team - perhaps to be benched again!. England would be glad to board the plane to England with their T-20 #1 spot in tact and one win out of 6 matches. Well Played England - Au Revoir!.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    Congratulations to the England team. I watched the match with great expectations on Indian big hitters. Thanks to Rahane for giving a stunning start. Is Indian team looking at Rahane for the replacement of Sachin or Sehwag...??? He is not up to 50% of these greats. We have watched him in 4 season of IPL. Never made his mark. In India, on Indian pitches if he is not capable of scoring run a ball then how he can able to plan in foreign countries. By seeing just 1 or 2 knocks in Eng dont consider him as replacement. Uthappa, yes I can understand. Coming back to international cricket after a long time holds some pressure. And the rest simply throws their wicket away. Finally very disappointed of Indian performance.

  • MrTom10 on October 29, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    So overall England vs India in 2011 finish 9-5 to England.

  • SammyLee1 on October 29, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    Revenge not Exacted! haha

  • premjack on October 29, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    The real test for England would when they take on Pakistan in Jan 2012. That will prove whether England team is good or not. Until then, I will not say much in favour of England. Although India did thrash Eng very badly in the recently concluded ODI series. I am sure they can expect the same in Tests when they return to India in 2012 winter. Whereas India will certainly march over WI in the next two months.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    Congrats to England. They were upto the T20 rankings. And the credit should have gone to KP, the turing point of this match was Raina dropping KP.

  • Romenevans on October 29, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    Good bowling and batting by England. Indian players played some unnecessary and loose shots, which found them 20 runs short. Yusuf pathan is the most useless player in international arena. He can't play swing, be it traditional swing or reverse swing. He is a slow fielder and he is a pathetic bowler. He is 28-29 now and i don't think he has enough time now to be recommended as a future prospect.

  • maddy20 on October 29, 2011, 16:12 GMT

    As Andrew Hughes said they were the chamions of the "hit and giggle" format. Now that the series is done and dusted, its time to give our beloved captain cool some well deserved rest. He could surely use some before the Aus tour.

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 16:09 GMT

    So England win the REVENGE revenge series! White-washing and crushing India in the T20 series!!! Undisputed World Number 1 in T20I and Tests - The 2 premier formats! England win the 2011 series with India 9-5 (with 2 ties)! Utter domination! And please stop giving Ganguly a microphone LOL Ian Bell a youngsters??!! With over 180 International appearances! HAHAHAHAAAAA!

  • aracer on October 29, 2011, 16:07 GMT

    Well they might have taken a while, but England did manage in India what India failed to do in England.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    India. Oh India. Why do you always do this?

  • weindians on October 29, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    Now welcome back all england fans..... pieterson catch missing was crucial...

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  • weindians on October 29, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    Now welcome back all england fans..... pieterson catch missing was crucial...

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    India. Oh India. Why do you always do this?

  • aracer on October 29, 2011, 16:07 GMT

    Well they might have taken a while, but England did manage in India what India failed to do in England.

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 29, 2011, 16:09 GMT

    So England win the REVENGE revenge series! White-washing and crushing India in the T20 series!!! Undisputed World Number 1 in T20I and Tests - The 2 premier formats! England win the 2011 series with India 9-5 (with 2 ties)! Utter domination! And please stop giving Ganguly a microphone LOL Ian Bell a youngsters??!! With over 180 International appearances! HAHAHAHAAAAA!

  • maddy20 on October 29, 2011, 16:12 GMT

    As Andrew Hughes said they were the chamions of the "hit and giggle" format. Now that the series is done and dusted, its time to give our beloved captain cool some well deserved rest. He could surely use some before the Aus tour.

  • Romenevans on October 29, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    Good bowling and batting by England. Indian players played some unnecessary and loose shots, which found them 20 runs short. Yusuf pathan is the most useless player in international arena. He can't play swing, be it traditional swing or reverse swing. He is a slow fielder and he is a pathetic bowler. He is 28-29 now and i don't think he has enough time now to be recommended as a future prospect.

  • on October 29, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    Congrats to England. They were upto the T20 rankings. And the credit should have gone to KP, the turing point of this match was Raina dropping KP.

  • premjack on October 29, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    The real test for England would when they take on Pakistan in Jan 2012. That will prove whether England team is good or not. Until then, I will not say much in favour of England. Although India did thrash Eng very badly in the recently concluded ODI series. I am sure they can expect the same in Tests when they return to India in 2012 winter. Whereas India will certainly march over WI in the next two months.

  • SammyLee1 on October 29, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    Revenge not Exacted! haha

  • MrTom10 on October 29, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    So overall England vs India in 2011 finish 9-5 to England.