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Bangladesh failures won't negatively impact India batsmen - Dravid

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Dravid: Binny's confidence India's main takeaway from Bangladesh series

Rahul Dravid, the former India captain, believes the experience of consecutive collapses in seamer-friendly conditions in the last two ODIs against Bangladesh will hold India's young batsmen in good stead going forward. Speaking to ESPNcricinfo after India clinched the three ODI series 2-0, Dravid said he was not "too concerned" although India were bowled out for 105 in the second game and were 119 for 9 in the third when rain forced the game to be abandoned.

"In the end, it's just two games. It's too small a sample size to really judge from," Dravid said. "Those two wickets weren't exactly great, especially with the rain and all those covers there. India got out for 105 and the opposition got out for 58.

"It was a good experience for batsmen who have sometimes grown up on flat wickets in the subcontinent. Sometimes when you come up in conditions that are slightly more difficult and challenging, you have to readjust and recalibrate scores that you think are par for the course, which maybe India, who batted first on both occasions, didn't do as well."

Dravid pointed to the "confidence" Stuart Binny would have gained from his Man-of-the-Series performance in Bangladesh as India's major "takeaway" from the tour. Calling the criticism of Binny's selection in Test squad "unfair', Dravid said: "He has earned the right to be in the Indian side having helped Karnataka win three titles last season." Having played with Binny for both Karnataka and Rajasthan Royals, Dravid believes he is a "handy cricketer" and a "good selection for a tour to England". "In Tests, if India wanted to play two spinners, maybe there might be a Sanjay Bangar kind of role for him - not at the top of the order, but maybe down the order. Sanjay played that role for us in England in 2002."

Besides Binny three other members of the ODI squad in Bangladesh - Cheteshwar Pujara, Ajinkya Rahane and Wriddhiman Saha - are part of the Test squad that leaves on Saturday for the five-match series in England. Dravid dismissed fears that a couple of low scores in Bangladesh will have a negative impact going into sterner challenges that await in England.

"I think the quality and intensity of your practice matches and the quality and intensity of your practice sessions leading into the first couple of Test matches are very important. I always felt they were critical to success abroad, so I wouldn't worry too much about this one-day series but focus on getting the first 14-20 days right in the Test series. If they do that, get onto a bit of a roll, the batsmen get some confidence, time in the middle, I think you will see them have success. I don't think any Test wicket will be the kind we saw in Bangladesh."

Dravid is also hopeful that while tackling similarly tricky situations in the future, the batsmen will be better prepared. "India went with a young and inexperienced batting line-up and maybe they just needed a little bit more time to cope, so maybe they can learn from this experience as and when they come upon a wicket like this," he said. "There aren't many wickets like these in the world now, just because of the way they are being prepared, because of the technology, the knowhow, wicket preparation has become so good now. We've got some really good quality, sort of standardised wickets in the world now, which means when you come up on wickets like this you have to re-adjust."

Dravid also cautioned against presuming how a batsman would approach a Test innings on the basis of a one-day knock. "Sometimes the pressure is more in one-day cricket on wickets like this because you also have to keep the score ticking", he said. "In one-day cricket sometimes, especially when the matches are shortened like they were in Bangladesh, you are trying to get runs.

"It's inexperience; you don't recognise that even 150-160 can be enough on that kind of wicket. If you are batting first, that can sometimes become a problem and you start playing the kind of shots you normally wouldn't."

While confronted with a similar challenge against the red ball in a Test match, Dravid provided insight into how a batsman should approach the task. "In England, if in the first session the conditions are overcast, you want to keep the cover drive or the drive on the rise in the locker, unless it's a half volley. Keep it in cold storage, and bring it out if you are still batting after lunch or tea, when you are well set and the conditions can change. The challenge of doing well in those conditions is selecting the shots that you want to play, and in which situations you are going to play them."

Gaurav Kalra is a senior editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • CricketFanIndUS on June 21, 2014, 5:22 GMT

    The pitch was uneven that caused unpredictable bounce. The ball was speeding off after pitching and was seaming. Yes, a perfect opportunity for a batsman aspiring to be in the Indian squad to show what he is capable and attract the interest of the selectors. No one really utilized it. Our batsmen did not look like they employed the right technique and temperament. I am more worried about this than the two remarkable collapses. There were plenty of T20 shots played, but it was obvious that the pitch did not call for that (at least not until the batsmen got a good look in first). Maybe it is too much to make of one pitch and the two games on it, it still makes me uncomfortable. Love you team India like always!

  • Sunil_Canada on June 23, 2014, 15:12 GMT

    Were they (2nd and 3rd test) seaming tracks? Really? Have we ever seen such tracks in India? Why can't India hire the expert curators from Bangladesh to prepare such tracks before foreign trips for our players to practice?

  • Nampally on June 23, 2014, 0:42 GMT

    Dravid made one excellent suggestion - Keep the drive on the rise in the Locker. Players who rely on hand-eye coordination with awkward footwork are all prone to this. Kohli does it well on the Indian wkts. But in England the ball bounce is greater & is variable which Broad, Anderson & Plunkett will use to their advantage. Of course all strokes in Test matches are played after the batsman has his eye in unless a rank bad ball or full toss presents itself. However Dravid forgot the crucial need for all batsmen to leave the balls outside the off stump well alone. Gambhir is compulsive chaser of such balls & if he is in XI, watch how easily & consistently may I add, he falls a prey to such balls. Dhawan is also susceptible to such balls as he gets most of his runs by cutting the balls outside the off. Vijay tries hard to leave them alone. So 2 out of 3 openers have a "Iffy" approach. India failed to choose the right openers. Good start is crucial for a big Indian total! Can they get One?

  • on June 22, 2014, 14:34 GMT

    Ind almost defeated da ALMIGHTY RSA side at the latter's home, even when Jaques Kallis #LEGEND & G Smith #skipperLEGEND were both present; da series should at least have been drawn, but 4 a spinner like Robin Peterson ripping through India's batting line--up in da 3rd innings in da 2nd Test at Kingsmead in Durban; & Ravi Ashwin failing, in Jo'burg, 2 do even 5% of what Anil Kumble #legend used 2 accomplish in foreign "unfriendly---4---spin" conditions in Eng, Aus, RSA, NZ etc.

    Tiz extremely crucial 2 note dat 90% of India's squad members were touring abroad(i.e; Eng/RSA/Aus/NZ/WI etc.) 4 da 1st tym ever{for Tests, at least}; many had not played more dan 3--4 Tests even in India

    UMPIRING HOWLERS & debacles etc. converted a should--have--been---Indian---triumph in da 1st Test in New Zealand 2 an---official--victory---4---NZ; in da 2nd Test, at Basin Reserve, Wellington, NZ were blown away in da 1st innings for almost nothing on da board & Ind, da touring team, amassed a 250run lead

  • Bivu4 on June 22, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    Binny is good for england series

  • on June 22, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    @Arun Bose Mate, aren't you high on overconfidence? I mean you said whoever says Indian batting is poor after taking this series in light is uneducated in cricket and yet you go on to say that India will whitewash England 4-0. Making such predictions (highly unlikely ones as well) will too make you stand in same category as Mushfiqur Rahim and those you call uneducated.

  • arun_padmanabhan on June 22, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    As much as you guys want, gambhir is not coming into the side and ashwin is not going to be out of the side.Vijay and ashwin still remain the most favourite for their positions and rightly so. The only question remains as to which three fast bowlers will play. My bet will be on bhuvi, shami and ishant. In short, Indian side will look very similar to Sri Lankan side.

  • on June 21, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    @wapuser...Ajinkya Rahane has begun to show great promise at No.6 in South Africa and New Zealand. Dhawan scored a century in New Zealand and Vijay played well in South Africa. Gambhir will have to wait for at least the first two Tests. In the unlikely event of playing 5 bowlers, Rohit Sharma should be the one to miss out.

  • on June 21, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    I think england pitches is a bit bouncy n seaming.. my playing 11 for the first england test would hv 6 batsman jadeja & 4 pace bowlers.wanted to involve Dhawan as well but cant find a place for him in the 11.

    1.Ajinkya Rahane 2.Gautam Gambhir 3.Cheteshwar Pujara 4.Virat Kohli 5.M S dhoni 6.Rohit Sharma 7.Ravinder Jadeja 8.S Binny/Pankaj Singh/Ishwar Pandey 9.Bhuvneshwar Kumar 10.Mohammad Shami 11.Varun Aaron

  • chechong0114 on June 21, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    What was Bangladesh trying to accomplish in this series, they have proven again what the world knows and that is they have alot of work to do on their all round cricket. If anything they may have lost a few more loyal fans by losing in such humiliating fashion especially in the 2nd ODI, outside of that nothing about this series made any sense whatsoever.

  • CricketFanIndUS on June 21, 2014, 5:22 GMT

    The pitch was uneven that caused unpredictable bounce. The ball was speeding off after pitching and was seaming. Yes, a perfect opportunity for a batsman aspiring to be in the Indian squad to show what he is capable and attract the interest of the selectors. No one really utilized it. Our batsmen did not look like they employed the right technique and temperament. I am more worried about this than the two remarkable collapses. There were plenty of T20 shots played, but it was obvious that the pitch did not call for that (at least not until the batsmen got a good look in first). Maybe it is too much to make of one pitch and the two games on it, it still makes me uncomfortable. Love you team India like always!

  • Sunil_Canada on June 23, 2014, 15:12 GMT

    Were they (2nd and 3rd test) seaming tracks? Really? Have we ever seen such tracks in India? Why can't India hire the expert curators from Bangladesh to prepare such tracks before foreign trips for our players to practice?

  • Nampally on June 23, 2014, 0:42 GMT

    Dravid made one excellent suggestion - Keep the drive on the rise in the Locker. Players who rely on hand-eye coordination with awkward footwork are all prone to this. Kohli does it well on the Indian wkts. But in England the ball bounce is greater & is variable which Broad, Anderson & Plunkett will use to their advantage. Of course all strokes in Test matches are played after the batsman has his eye in unless a rank bad ball or full toss presents itself. However Dravid forgot the crucial need for all batsmen to leave the balls outside the off stump well alone. Gambhir is compulsive chaser of such balls & if he is in XI, watch how easily & consistently may I add, he falls a prey to such balls. Dhawan is also susceptible to such balls as he gets most of his runs by cutting the balls outside the off. Vijay tries hard to leave them alone. So 2 out of 3 openers have a "Iffy" approach. India failed to choose the right openers. Good start is crucial for a big Indian total! Can they get One?

  • on June 22, 2014, 14:34 GMT

    Ind almost defeated da ALMIGHTY RSA side at the latter's home, even when Jaques Kallis #LEGEND & G Smith #skipperLEGEND were both present; da series should at least have been drawn, but 4 a spinner like Robin Peterson ripping through India's batting line--up in da 3rd innings in da 2nd Test at Kingsmead in Durban; & Ravi Ashwin failing, in Jo'burg, 2 do even 5% of what Anil Kumble #legend used 2 accomplish in foreign "unfriendly---4---spin" conditions in Eng, Aus, RSA, NZ etc.

    Tiz extremely crucial 2 note dat 90% of India's squad members were touring abroad(i.e; Eng/RSA/Aus/NZ/WI etc.) 4 da 1st tym ever{for Tests, at least}; many had not played more dan 3--4 Tests even in India

    UMPIRING HOWLERS & debacles etc. converted a should--have--been---Indian---triumph in da 1st Test in New Zealand 2 an---official--victory---4---NZ; in da 2nd Test, at Basin Reserve, Wellington, NZ were blown away in da 1st innings for almost nothing on da board & Ind, da touring team, amassed a 250run lead

  • Bivu4 on June 22, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    Binny is good for england series

  • on June 22, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    @Arun Bose Mate, aren't you high on overconfidence? I mean you said whoever says Indian batting is poor after taking this series in light is uneducated in cricket and yet you go on to say that India will whitewash England 4-0. Making such predictions (highly unlikely ones as well) will too make you stand in same category as Mushfiqur Rahim and those you call uneducated.

  • arun_padmanabhan on June 22, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    As much as you guys want, gambhir is not coming into the side and ashwin is not going to be out of the side.Vijay and ashwin still remain the most favourite for their positions and rightly so. The only question remains as to which three fast bowlers will play. My bet will be on bhuvi, shami and ishant. In short, Indian side will look very similar to Sri Lankan side.

  • on June 21, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    @wapuser...Ajinkya Rahane has begun to show great promise at No.6 in South Africa and New Zealand. Dhawan scored a century in New Zealand and Vijay played well in South Africa. Gambhir will have to wait for at least the first two Tests. In the unlikely event of playing 5 bowlers, Rohit Sharma should be the one to miss out.

  • on June 21, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    I think england pitches is a bit bouncy n seaming.. my playing 11 for the first england test would hv 6 batsman jadeja & 4 pace bowlers.wanted to involve Dhawan as well but cant find a place for him in the 11.

    1.Ajinkya Rahane 2.Gautam Gambhir 3.Cheteshwar Pujara 4.Virat Kohli 5.M S dhoni 6.Rohit Sharma 7.Ravinder Jadeja 8.S Binny/Pankaj Singh/Ishwar Pandey 9.Bhuvneshwar Kumar 10.Mohammad Shami 11.Varun Aaron

  • chechong0114 on June 21, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    What was Bangladesh trying to accomplish in this series, they have proven again what the world knows and that is they have alot of work to do on their all round cricket. If anything they may have lost a few more loyal fans by losing in such humiliating fashion especially in the 2nd ODI, outside of that nothing about this series made any sense whatsoever.

  • The_bowlers_Holding on June 21, 2014, 14:51 GMT

    I am looking forward to the Indian tour of England but I bet Cook is more so, it will give him an opportunity to get his confidence back. Some of the new Indian bowlers look promising, time will tell, Englands new crop seem to be bedding in well with strength in reserve (Finn, Stokes...). We will see if Pujara is as good as the hype is saying as bar one or two knocks his overseas form is poor. India will probably lose the test series and do better in the shorter forms,

  • Nampally on June 21, 2014, 14:30 GMT

    BD Failures are restricted to BD pitches only- Nothing more! More over of the BD ODI Xi, Pujara is only guy likely to play in UK Tests. So BD experience is just like "Rumble in the Jungle" & unlikely to apply to England squad. Indian problems in the last tour of England are well known. Out of several major causes for their whitewash in the last tour, only one problem has been addressed- i.e., Player Fitness. Opening batsmen issue is still up in the air & Dhoni is still the Captain. Gambhir was out repeatedly poking at the balls outside the off stump is still likely to open! Dravid did the rear guard action after the openers failed, with centuries. The question now is can Pujara & Kohli take up Dravid's sheet anchor Role? Secondly Can B.Kumar & Shami form an effective counter to Broad, Anderson & Plunkett? Accurate & hostile Pace always prevailed in England. Will Aaron play this role? Indian batting & Seam bowling will be the determining factors. I hope Dhoni plays the right XI too!

  • kricet_fan on June 21, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    ashwin must be dropped from 1st test 11 against england. jadeja is a better bowler than ashwin and binny is useful in english soil..

  • IndianInnerEdge on June 21, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    I think Binny is just overated. An average 120 kmph+ medium pace trundler who was lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.......When will india get away from their fixation of "yeah if he bowls 130 kmph+ lets select him"....

  • ProdigyA on June 21, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    Dhonis defensive tactics and stupid team selections will again cost india the series. I don't why the selectors are so adamant on selecting him in the test team. Drop Dhoni from the rest team and half of ur problems are solved. He is going to select the same failures again and again and then complain we don't have ant options. I don't mind india losing a couple of series under a new captain but not a single match under Dhoni. Enough of him in tests, for godsake.

    Too much is being made of Binny, he can be a utility player in ODI's at most but will be a huge waste in Tests. Pls select specialists in the team for tests, these half and half players won't work.

  • on June 21, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    well, the thing with the indians is that they compare themselves with others a lot. if SL can do it, so can India. if Steve Smith can do it, so can binny. if Dravid can do it, so can Pujara. Each and every time before the start of an abroad series, I hear these predictions from Indian fans and they always turn out to be the opposite. For me, the main problem is the captain of India who doesn't deserve a place in the test side for abroad tests, let alone the captaincy lol.. I personally think that the result won't be different this time as well, victory on the cards for England

  • on June 21, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    Indian batsman need to stay positive and as dravid said no cover drive or drive until you are set(after facing 60-70 balls)...Bhuvi shami pankaj binny and jadeja ideal combination...Plzz no ishant and ashwin

  • ramli on June 21, 2014, 11:57 GMT

    Did I see it correctly that MSD will not play a 6th bowler ... I wish he plays a fifth bowler in tests!!! Two spinners in an overseas test! Even Anil Kumble will not like it!! My Indian XI: Gambhir/Vijay/Pujara/Kohli/Rahane/MSD/Binny/Ashwin/Shami/Ishant/Pande

  • ramli on June 21, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    @Cricketlover54 ... yours is wishful thinking ... there will definitely be an improvement in the result this time ... simply on the logic that if SL can manage a draw, India shoud!!!

  • RapidCommentsPlz on June 21, 2014, 11:27 GMT

    @Cricketlover54 oops I didnt quite know that!! Thanks for letting us know!! By the way you are the only one to believe that. aint ya? and ofcourse your countrymen too bcoz I really dont remember how many times we have beaten u

  • on June 21, 2014, 11:14 GMT

    @Cricketlover54 Did you even watch the Ind v Ban series or you just followed it because from what I saw no batsmen was able to time his strokes properly or adjust to the bowling. Trust me, I know how it feels when you are playing in conditions like that because I play cricket myself and it is very HARD!! I think India are going to win 2-0 in the Ind v Eng series and binny is not going to get a match because Dhoni never plays a Test match without 2 spinners and he already has his 3 pacers and it is very improbable that Dhoni will play a 6th bowler and even if he does most likely it will be Pankaj Singh because he has been in amazing form in the Ranji Trophy. So Overall I think Binny is a great find; Not really the Test player because of his aggressive attitude towards his batting and his bowling could still use little tweaks.

  • hghghghg on June 21, 2014, 11:03 GMT

    India has a great chance in eng provided the bowing attack consisting of shami bhuvi pankaj aaron look like picking up 20 wickts otherwise itll be the same old story as it was in rsa or nz. however india might be forced to include gambhir in the playing XI as dhawan is most likely to fail there against the short pitched or the swinging deliveries.

  • on June 21, 2014, 10:12 GMT

    @Arun Bose - keep dreaming mate for 4-0, but reality will be opposite; Indian team were white washed last time in England; this time will be colourless wash, because England do not make smooth flat tracks for T20 batsman's and Indian bowling not even Afghani standard.

  • NP_NY on June 21, 2014, 8:43 GMT

    @Cricketlover54: Strange name for someone who apparently don't know cricket. It's ok to be bowled out for 105 if you can bowl the home side for 58 on the same pitch. A 2-0 series win for a "B team". Sorry to disappoint you but we Indian fans are not at all embarrassed.

  • on June 21, 2014, 7:38 GMT

    the pitches in england are not going to offer mirpur type uneven bounce.yes it will be swing which will test our batsmen.one more thing,with english pace attack always doing well in these conditions and england knows the indian struggle against bounce Chris Jordan would play a deciding role along with jimmy-broad-plunkett.for Binny critics i must say please watch first him in white dress then only criticize.he can be a next Prabhakar for india at least.JAI HO.All the best Team India

  • Sir_Ivor on June 21, 2014, 6:44 GMT

    For all the people who have made grave forcasts, the summer of 2014 is predicted to be the hottest ever with very little rain.That should make it very different from the Mirpur waterways where the recent debacles took place ! As Rahul Dravid says, the spinners will come into play a lot in the said situation. Ashwin and Jadeja will,I think come into the reckoning more than if the conditions had been seamer friendly.The weather could be similar to what we saw during the Champion's Trophy in which case India should do better than what many people are suggesting.Anderson and Co function best when they have typically English weather.When that is missing as we saw in the last Sri Lanka Test in England, the fast bowling trio becomes surprisingly innocuous.The denoument of Duncan Fletcher's tenure,I believe is just around the corner.He was once the English coach and should be able to provide many useful inputs to Dhoni. I hope the batsmen follow Dravid's about batting in overcast conditions.

  • on June 21, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    it is one thing to complain and another to actually play on the type of pitch. at the least India did not give up and ended up with series win.

  • Yousufahmed1 on June 21, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    @ Cricketlover54 I guess you are living on a different planetwhere average 30 is a stuff of legends. Ind B won the series against BD 2-0. LOL.

  • screamingeagle on June 21, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    @Cricketlover54, As you should too, while giving out the 5-0 predictions.

  • Cricketlover54 on June 21, 2014, 5:59 GMT

    @Arun Bose. Shouldn't you wait until the matches start to predict the winner? It would save a lot of embarrassment, in the coming months. Eng thrashed Ind 2-1 at home, 4-0 in Eng, and 5-0 in the coming series. The only way Ind can stand a chance is if the pitches are as flat as Bangalore. There is no chance for Ind, they were hammered by Bangladesh bowlers lol.

  • on June 21, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    The Binny that we are talking about is Stuart and not Roger . Roger Binny was far more talented than Stuart and Roger played along side Kapil , from whom he learnt a lot .I would like to be proved wrong but cannot help feeling that Stuart is not a player of international class.

  • on June 21, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    All those experts who are still criticising these inexperienced indian players judging them by just two ODI match performance are simply not educated cricket wise.. They just simply criticise for the sake of it! They seldom get the oppurtunity to criticise Indian players bcz Indian players are damn good.. Come England tour, You won't be able to criticise Indian team, Even if you want to.. Cz India will beat England 4-0.. The perfect revenge..

  • Cricketlover54 on June 21, 2014, 5:06 GMT

    "And they is a reason why this Indian batting line up is the best in the world" Wow hahaa. "It may fail once or twice"

    haha once or twice???? India is 0-11 overseas, India's batsman and bowlers are the worst in the world. India should've bought their normal team to Bangladesh and still wouldve been bowled all out for 100. hahaa. Being bowled out for 105 in Bangladesh wow what an embarrassment.

  • RapidCommentsPlz on June 21, 2014, 4:54 GMT

    @ Jeewaranga Gunasekera Atleast they didnt fold out for mere 65 as recently or 96 all out if i remember correctly in port of spain!!ha ha!!And they is a reason why this Indian batting line up is the best in the world . lolz bcoz it is so! It may fail once or twice but doesnt repeat its mistakes again and again!! Good luck

  • Realistic_cri_fan on June 21, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    I don't think Binny is good for tests.He is a bit like Ravi Bopara.Binny is a valuable player and India will be very happy if he does the role of finisher cum par-time seam bowler perfectly.He is a good player for the worldcup.This is the best team for next year's worldup: 1.Dhawan 2.Gambhir 3.Kohli 4.Raina 5.Yuvraj/Binny 6.Rohit Sharma 7.Dhoni 8.Jadeja 9.B.kumar 10.Aaron/Shami 11.Mohit Sharma

  • on June 21, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    A bad performance is bad regardless of the experience of the players. it was a horrible display from Indian batsman. it portraits the Indian trend of going much behind t20 leagues and a whole collapse of quality players. good luck for India in the world cup

  • andrew-schulz on June 21, 2014, 2:23 GMT

    India have played 14 away Tests without a win. That number is already embarrassing, but it could grow to shocking proportions. Except that they are playing England, on seven Tests without a win, and who have just lost all of their players who have any sort of steel. The injustice is that one of these teams will have their world ranking improved. Neither deserve it.

  • huffpost on June 21, 2014, 1:57 GMT

    Rahul Dravid just put it in perspective...the pitch in Bangladesh was a bad pitch for ODI cricket and nothing else.. Some people are reading too much into this and judging Indian batsmen..they seem to forget that India won Champions trophy last year on English pitches..The 2011 tour went bad for India for obvious reasons but people forget that India won the test series in 2007 in England and drew the series in 2002 not to forget the famous natwest series win that year..

  • indianzen on June 20, 2014, 23:42 GMT

    I agree with Rahul to a certain extent. But note that Indians who did excellent in India, could not do the same abroad. Our bowling unit needs serious attention and care to bring out the best among them, I would say, we will need Zaheer and Rahul to be included in the coaching unit, which could be handy for the bowlers and for the new batsmen...

  • xylo on June 20, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    I was surprised that technically competent batsmen such as Pujara and Rahane did not score well in these conditions.

  • vkumar_086 on June 20, 2014, 19:35 GMT

    Dravid the legend has pointed correctly...i expressed the same view in my earlier comments...without knowing the reality and conditions, people were simply criticizing Indian inexperienced players...INDIA took BD series as just practice session and Binny is the new findout, but the real test is England tour....the CT 2013 experience will come handy in this England series...hopefully India will perform better

  • Nampally on June 20, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    There were several lessons from the BD tour- some already known. Firstly, the importance of India getting good start is crucial for the batting to click. Does India have opening bats who can give India a good start? Uthappa would have addressed this need. Secondly, Batting after Pujara &Kohli needs a closer look. It appears Rohit Sharma & Dhoni will be @#'s 5 & 6. The last 4 spots are for the bowlers. #7 is open- will it be Jadeja or Binny? If Binny is #7, Jadeja, Ashwin, Kumar & Shami will be the last 4. If Binny is not included, he can make room for a seamer like Ishant, Pandey or alternate. This is going to be a tough decision. My personal preference is for a third seamer & Jadeja doing the all rounder duties. This also ensures 3 specialist bowlers + 2 all rounders- both spinners- to give 5 bowlers. England will bombard India with 4 Pace bowlers + 1 spinner. Need for strong openers is crucial for Indian success. SL did very well thru Sanga in batting & thru their young pace bowlers.

  • on June 20, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Bits and pieces players can be useful for the team- as Steven Smith has proven recently. If someone like Smith can do it, Binny should be more than a handful.

  • on June 20, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Rahul Dravid just nailed it perfectly..People were criticising these inexperienced young Indian batters for their poor performance in last two odi matches against Bangladesh but seriously you wanna judge them because they cudn't perform well in those two rain shortened ODIs? Dravid mentioned it that ODIs and tests are two completely different formats..In ODIs you have to score runs at a fast pace and in rain shortened matches, Runs become even more important, You are bound to make mistakes in that situation on that nightmarish pitch in Dhaka..And also they were inexperienced..But test matches are completely different bcz in tests your main objective is to save your wicket first and also better pitches are prepared for tests unlike what we saw in Dhaka. India 4-0 England..

  • on June 20, 2014, 15:27 GMT

    Last time India played in England they batted first in all the games and due to rain England we're reset a target and won by D/L method. This was during the prime of chasing down anything era. Given the conditions and target any team is capable of chasing and England were lucky with the umpiring decisions , this time India will go in as favourites to England ..ps this was in the odi format.

  • ramnath on June 20, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    Well said, I think these 2 matches with Bangladesh was good thing to happen in disguise. Especially when most of these players are either going to England or representing India A for the Australia tour. So they have some seam practice now.

    All the best to Team India and Team India A.

  • pritamdas_circ on June 20, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    I agree with Dravid sir here. Eng conditions are not gonna be any similar to scenes we saw in Bangladesh, many called it Unplayable. I am not saying that British conditions won't gonna be tough for India but at least not as WEIRD as in Bangladesh it was (caused by continuous Rain to some extent). India had toured England 3 years ago, although failed there but had definitely gained pitch sense, there will help them this time. Yes I am being optimistic about my Home side but as a Fan that is what I think I should do, rather than start criticising and passing negative thoughts everywhere on everything.

  • pritamdas_circ on June 20, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    I agree with Dravid sir here. Eng conditions are not gonna be any similar to scenes we saw in Bangladesh, many called it Unplayable. I am not saying that British conditions won't gonna be tough for India but at least not as WEIRD as in Bangladesh it was (caused by continuous Rain to some extent). India had toured England 3 years ago, although failed there but had definitely gained pitch sense, there will help them this time. Yes I am being optimistic about my Home side but as a Fan that is what I think I should do, rather than start criticising and passing negative thoughts everywhere on everything.

  • ramnath on June 20, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    Well said, I think these 2 matches with Bangladesh was good thing to happen in disguise. Especially when most of these players are either going to England or representing India A for the Australia tour. So they have some seam practice now.

    All the best to Team India and Team India A.

  • on June 20, 2014, 15:27 GMT

    Last time India played in England they batted first in all the games and due to rain England we're reset a target and won by D/L method. This was during the prime of chasing down anything era. Given the conditions and target any team is capable of chasing and England were lucky with the umpiring decisions , this time India will go in as favourites to England ..ps this was in the odi format.

  • on June 20, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Rahul Dravid just nailed it perfectly..People were criticising these inexperienced young Indian batters for their poor performance in last two odi matches against Bangladesh but seriously you wanna judge them because they cudn't perform well in those two rain shortened ODIs? Dravid mentioned it that ODIs and tests are two completely different formats..In ODIs you have to score runs at a fast pace and in rain shortened matches, Runs become even more important, You are bound to make mistakes in that situation on that nightmarish pitch in Dhaka..And also they were inexperienced..But test matches are completely different bcz in tests your main objective is to save your wicket first and also better pitches are prepared for tests unlike what we saw in Dhaka. India 4-0 England..

  • on June 20, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Bits and pieces players can be useful for the team- as Steven Smith has proven recently. If someone like Smith can do it, Binny should be more than a handful.

  • Nampally on June 20, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    There were several lessons from the BD tour- some already known. Firstly, the importance of India getting good start is crucial for the batting to click. Does India have opening bats who can give India a good start? Uthappa would have addressed this need. Secondly, Batting after Pujara &Kohli needs a closer look. It appears Rohit Sharma & Dhoni will be @#'s 5 & 6. The last 4 spots are for the bowlers. #7 is open- will it be Jadeja or Binny? If Binny is #7, Jadeja, Ashwin, Kumar & Shami will be the last 4. If Binny is not included, he can make room for a seamer like Ishant, Pandey or alternate. This is going to be a tough decision. My personal preference is for a third seamer & Jadeja doing the all rounder duties. This also ensures 3 specialist bowlers + 2 all rounders- both spinners- to give 5 bowlers. England will bombard India with 4 Pace bowlers + 1 spinner. Need for strong openers is crucial for Indian success. SL did very well thru Sanga in batting & thru their young pace bowlers.

  • vkumar_086 on June 20, 2014, 19:35 GMT

    Dravid the legend has pointed correctly...i expressed the same view in my earlier comments...without knowing the reality and conditions, people were simply criticizing Indian inexperienced players...INDIA took BD series as just practice session and Binny is the new findout, but the real test is England tour....the CT 2013 experience will come handy in this England series...hopefully India will perform better

  • xylo on June 20, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    I was surprised that technically competent batsmen such as Pujara and Rahane did not score well in these conditions.

  • indianzen on June 20, 2014, 23:42 GMT

    I agree with Rahul to a certain extent. But note that Indians who did excellent in India, could not do the same abroad. Our bowling unit needs serious attention and care to bring out the best among them, I would say, we will need Zaheer and Rahul to be included in the coaching unit, which could be handy for the bowlers and for the new batsmen...

  • huffpost on June 21, 2014, 1:57 GMT

    Rahul Dravid just put it in perspective...the pitch in Bangladesh was a bad pitch for ODI cricket and nothing else.. Some people are reading too much into this and judging Indian batsmen..they seem to forget that India won Champions trophy last year on English pitches..The 2011 tour went bad for India for obvious reasons but people forget that India won the test series in 2007 in England and drew the series in 2002 not to forget the famous natwest series win that year..