ICC Combined XI v England XI, Dubai, 2nd day January 8, 2012

England's batsmen fail to impress in warm-up

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ICC XI 281 and 90 for 5 lead England XI 185 for 8 dec (Cook 76) by 186 runs
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With the exception of Alastair Cook, England's batsmen failed to impress on the second day against the ICC Combined XI in Dubai as the visitors stumbled during the afternoon until Andrew Strauss declared 96 behind on 185 for 8. England's pace bowlers then responded by reducing the ICC XI to 8 for 3 before they recovered to extend their lead to 186 at the close.

Having yesterday fought back from 90 for 6 to post a decent first-innings total, the ICC XI continued to provide England with tough opposition in the build-up to their Test series against Pakistan. Hamid Hassan, the Afghanistan pace bowler, took two early wickets before injuring himself with a fall over the boundary fence and during the second session England lost six further wickets. Cook was sixth out for a well-compiled 76 but no one else passed 19 and a more convincing effort will be required in the run chase.

England had started the day on 16 without loss and the opening stand moved to 44 when Andrew Strauss pulled Hassan to square leg. It didn't take long for Hassan to double his tally when Jonathan Trott glanced a catch down the leg side but Cook, in the company of Kevin Pietersen, steadied England to 98 for 2 at lunch.

However, any thoughts of a steady day of accumulation for the top order vanished after the break. Pietersen edged Boyd Rankin, the Ireland and Warwickshire paceman, to the keeper and Rankin then won the duel with his county team-mate Ian Bell. The collapse was in full swing when Eoin Morgan edged Mohammad Nabi to slip as the ICC XI gave an excellent account of themselves.

Cook, meanwhile, had remained secure and steady much as he had for most of 2011. His fifty came off 66 balls as he picked up regular boundaries and he appeared set for three figures before giving Mohammad Shahzad his fourth catch of the innings. By this time Hassan had been taken to hospital after falling over the boundary fence while trying to stop the ball and, although he was cleared of serious problems, won't take any further part in the match. George Dockrell, the Ireland left-arm spinner, replaced him for the second half of the game and will be allowed to bat and bowl.

Majid Haq, the Scotland offspinner, struck with his first ball to remove Steven Davies and Broad, after some strong hitting, became Nabi's second success of the day. Graeme Swann and James Anderson cut the deficit down to below three figures which prompted Strauss's move to end the innings shortly before tea.

England's pace bowlers were soon among the wickets for a second time. William Porterfield was caught down the leg side and Broad's impressive outing continued as he trapped Paul Stirling lbw then had Saqib Ali caught behind.

Swann provided another breakthrough when Craig Williams drove to cover but Shahzad didn't back down from the challenge and thumped his first ball from Swann straight down the ground. Shahzad continued in his attacking mindset and with the score on 71, ICC XI lost Kyle Coetzer when he dragged one onto his stumps.

Shahzad was involved in a few words with the England bowlers as he and Nabi, his Afghanistan team-mate, guided the ICC XI to the close. After the efforts of the lower order on the opening day they will still be confident of leaving the visitors with a testing target on the final day.

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  • on January 10, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    @Precioustar84 pakistan fans are passionate there is no doubt about that but they dont just start to support them when they are winning... most of pak fans know the difference between conditions formats and dont go around gloating when we win... yes we may be excited if we beat england here but we also know who the current no.1 team is they have desrved to get there by playing consistent cricket and if pakistan do win we will know this is only the start of the journey...

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, good to see you made the choice of the better country. At least your kids will support the Aussies.

  • 5wombats on January 9, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    @Khan1983 - well, we must say - we are really surprised at your comments. We're assured too that you are a Pakistan follower. Please accept my apology - I thought you may be an india fan! Sorry! Our respects to the Pakistan team and fans. It should be a compelling Test match series. Hope you are looking forward to it as much as the wombats are!

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    @RandyOz, why would I not understand? England are picking players on form, which is why they are not only not easy beats but are the #1 ranked team. You show your bias when you say things like "South Africans and Irish walk in willy nilly". You know that not to be true yet you post it anyway. KP obviously earned his place, Trott has shown exactly why he was picked and Morgan was picked ahead of Bopara at the time specifically on domestic form. I think that I would understand a bit better than many Australians. Incumbency counts for a lot in any international team. You wanted to axe Ponting and then days later he's the world's second best? If you believe that then surely you were confident that runs were just around the corner. If you really think that players of his experience should be just shuffled in and out of the team on this weeks Shield form then I hope they make you chief selector. By the way, I've lived in Aust for 38 years so don't think I don't understand Australian cricket.

  • YorkshirePudding on January 9, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    The ICC XI aquited themselves very well, and gave england a very good test and competition. It was a shame that Hamid Hassan got injured during Englands first innings. I think they should look at doing more games for the ICC IX, especially for warm ups for teams playing 'home' games against pakistan over the next couple of years.

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    This was a good hit out for England after a reasonable layoff. Just about everyone got some decent time in the middle. KP is obviously a bit of a concern but there's still another warmup game. I reckon that they'd still pick him for the first test even if he doesn't perform next time, but they might consider a change after that if he still doesn't fire. Someone else suggested moving Bell above KP in the batting order and I wouldn't be against that, but I wonder whether it adversely affect KP's confidence. The bowlers seemed to do a better job through the middle overs in the second innings, with wickets falling with greater regularity. Well done to the A&As. The Irish openers will be disappointed but, other than that, the A&A profile has been well aided by this game.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    If pakistan seriously want to win this series then they should play wrist spinner like kaneria or abdul qadir son usman to wrap up shaky eng batting and try make spinning pitches .Pak batsmen can handle swanny .But to play both ajmal and abdurrehman will not help .I think series will go towards draw . Pakistan has to collapse twice in order to give eng win and thats rarity in recent times in pakistan cricket and i admit eng is far better oponents to be beaten.

  • mikey76 on January 9, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    @RandyOz. Swann is a hack?? He's been the standout spinner in world cricket since Warne and Murali retired. He turns the ball more than anybody else and has a tremendous cricketing brain, Lyon is just another one in a long line of spinners Australia have tried and will probably be discarded before long. You just have sour grapes because you aint No1 anymore and we are. And you can stop with the Trott isnt english crack because you have Khawaja playing for you who is Pakistani and others like Dirk Nannes (Dutch) and Andrew Symonds (English) who have played in the green and gold. SA have Tahir and WI had Nash who was a kiwi, everybody does it. Its the pure bred englishmen like Cook and Broad and Anderson who have propelled us to the top which is where we'll stay for the next few years, get used to it.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Good Message for ICC to improve number of Test Teams, Afghanistan, Ireland, Netherlands must get the test status as soon as possible.

  • Saadatullah on January 9, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Unfortunately Afghanistan fast baller Hamid Hassan got injured, If he was in the match than the result will be apposite of this, and the England Bats men will got more troubles.

  • on January 10, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    @Precioustar84 pakistan fans are passionate there is no doubt about that but they dont just start to support them when they are winning... most of pak fans know the difference between conditions formats and dont go around gloating when we win... yes we may be excited if we beat england here but we also know who the current no.1 team is they have desrved to get there by playing consistent cricket and if pakistan do win we will know this is only the start of the journey...

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, good to see you made the choice of the better country. At least your kids will support the Aussies.

  • 5wombats on January 9, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    @Khan1983 - well, we must say - we are really surprised at your comments. We're assured too that you are a Pakistan follower. Please accept my apology - I thought you may be an india fan! Sorry! Our respects to the Pakistan team and fans. It should be a compelling Test match series. Hope you are looking forward to it as much as the wombats are!

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    @RandyOz, why would I not understand? England are picking players on form, which is why they are not only not easy beats but are the #1 ranked team. You show your bias when you say things like "South Africans and Irish walk in willy nilly". You know that not to be true yet you post it anyway. KP obviously earned his place, Trott has shown exactly why he was picked and Morgan was picked ahead of Bopara at the time specifically on domestic form. I think that I would understand a bit better than many Australians. Incumbency counts for a lot in any international team. You wanted to axe Ponting and then days later he's the world's second best? If you believe that then surely you were confident that runs were just around the corner. If you really think that players of his experience should be just shuffled in and out of the team on this weeks Shield form then I hope they make you chief selector. By the way, I've lived in Aust for 38 years so don't think I don't understand Australian cricket.

  • YorkshirePudding on January 9, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    The ICC XI aquited themselves very well, and gave england a very good test and competition. It was a shame that Hamid Hassan got injured during Englands first innings. I think they should look at doing more games for the ICC IX, especially for warm ups for teams playing 'home' games against pakistan over the next couple of years.

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    This was a good hit out for England after a reasonable layoff. Just about everyone got some decent time in the middle. KP is obviously a bit of a concern but there's still another warmup game. I reckon that they'd still pick him for the first test even if he doesn't perform next time, but they might consider a change after that if he still doesn't fire. Someone else suggested moving Bell above KP in the batting order and I wouldn't be against that, but I wonder whether it adversely affect KP's confidence. The bowlers seemed to do a better job through the middle overs in the second innings, with wickets falling with greater regularity. Well done to the A&As. The Irish openers will be disappointed but, other than that, the A&A profile has been well aided by this game.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    If pakistan seriously want to win this series then they should play wrist spinner like kaneria or abdul qadir son usman to wrap up shaky eng batting and try make spinning pitches .Pak batsmen can handle swanny .But to play both ajmal and abdurrehman will not help .I think series will go towards draw . Pakistan has to collapse twice in order to give eng win and thats rarity in recent times in pakistan cricket and i admit eng is far better oponents to be beaten.

  • mikey76 on January 9, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    @RandyOz. Swann is a hack?? He's been the standout spinner in world cricket since Warne and Murali retired. He turns the ball more than anybody else and has a tremendous cricketing brain, Lyon is just another one in a long line of spinners Australia have tried and will probably be discarded before long. You just have sour grapes because you aint No1 anymore and we are. And you can stop with the Trott isnt english crack because you have Khawaja playing for you who is Pakistani and others like Dirk Nannes (Dutch) and Andrew Symonds (English) who have played in the green and gold. SA have Tahir and WI had Nash who was a kiwi, everybody does it. Its the pure bred englishmen like Cook and Broad and Anderson who have propelled us to the top which is where we'll stay for the next few years, get used to it.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Good Message for ICC to improve number of Test Teams, Afghanistan, Ireland, Netherlands must get the test status as soon as possible.

  • Saadatullah on January 9, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Unfortunately Afghanistan fast baller Hamid Hassan got injured, If he was in the match than the result will be apposite of this, and the England Bats men will got more troubles.

  • Khan1983 on January 9, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    Lolz, yes indeed, 'unconvincing win' - so much for the self proclaimed Legendary England team. I don't think this total with this opposition wud even require more than Gilchrist-Hayden or Haynes-greenidge partnership, let alone 7 prolific batsmen (as my friend the stat guru will argue)! My margin for Pakistan victory has just gone up from 1-0 to 2-0 and if match against the much tougher PCB XI is same, it may well mean a 3-0 thrashing ;)

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 9, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    So England win by 4 wickets, please write your apologies above....!

  • 200ondebut on January 9, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    So England win after all. Sign of a class side that despite playing well below par they can still end up winning. All this talk about "not being able to do this" and "not being able to do that" has bee nshown for what it is - a complete load of uninformed twaddle.

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    Unconvincing win? Ok a couple of "failures" in Pietersen and Morgan, but to chase 260odd down at over 4 an over isn't bad.....

  • on January 9, 2012, 12:05 GMT

    The ICC should definitely experiment more with the Associate team, It may be better to have an Associate test team than promote one of those smaller country and risk another Bangladesh, then there is the chance of getting quality test players from a vriety of countries.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 9, 2012, 11:49 GMT

    Jimmy Anderson and Broad show again to be lethal with the new ball even on a mud track. England have done extremely well to force a three day game here. No doubt after quite a few (we all fondly know the usual suspects!) users on these boards were proved wrong not for the first, or even 121st time!, we'll perhaps, see something resembling indirect apologies on these boards. Maybe cricinfo should host it's own apologies board, only available to those who get it wrong so often? Something along the lines of 'I thought England had done something different to what they'd been doing they last two years, namely flattening everyone else on the cricket field, but I was wrong. It was more out of hope than expectation but I once again got it wrong' Signatories please sign below...

  • on January 9, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    @jmcilhinney you think the Aus fans are bad wait till some of the indian fans get here as it will be win win for them and as normal will be nothing about the article or constructive...

  • Imran_Chebati on January 9, 2012, 11:29 GMT

    RandyOz, Omarrz etc etc: I hate to say it but you've yet again been proved wrong. After days of speculation, the result of this match states 'England win': Where are you now when the real debate starts?

  • Imran_Chebati on January 9, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    England look certain to win now, so they'll be a few apologies expected on these boards very soon no doubt....

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 10:29 GMT

    @jmcilhinney - I wouldn't expect you to understand, because there are no English players pushing into the United XI - South Africans and Irish walk in willy nilly - but players down here should be picked on form. This is what the Argus review pleaded for. Hilfenhaus and Ponting both did not deserve their spot based on form. I am however happy that they are performing and proving me wrong, obviously. However, this kind of popgun selection is what got us into strife in the first place. Marsh is a similar story.We have the strongest domestic scene in the world and there were far better players in form than Hilfenhaus. The same goes for Haddin. If this doesn't make sense to you, just think of it as the reason you were world easy beats for 20 odd years.

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Trott should have played for the Combined XI, because he certainly isn't English. That is of course, if you can tell the difference between the United XI and Combined XI.

  • JG2704 on January 9, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    @Omarrz on (January 09 2012, 03:57 AM GMT) - Don't know why I'm bothering doing this. But as we've said before T20/OD and tests are all different formats and form in 1 has no bearing on form in the other. Eng bt Aus away in tests then lost OD series 6-1 to same side in same conds, then were inconsistent in WC bt SA d with Ind , L to Bang and Ire then win test series v SL and Ind and then go over and get thrashed by India in OD series in India. Ind themselves have done the same in reverse - decent OD form poor test form. As for Eng in SC your link doesn't work. But since 2000 vs Ind L 1-0,2005 d 1-1,2008 L 1-0 vs SL 2000 w 2-1 2003 L 1-0 ,2007-8 L 1-0 vs Pak 2000 w 2-1 2005 L 2-0. I've not inc Bangladesh as the wins mean little. Sure it's not a winning record but it's hardly a pathetic record either. The honest fact is that under the current Strauss/Flower regime they've not played in SC so it's all for England to prove or others to disprove

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    Trott should have played for the Combined XI, because he certainly isn't English. That is of course, if you can tell the difference between the United XI and Combined XI.

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 10:08 GMT

    Haha, Swann again shown up! Another terrible performance! How on Earth did the ICC give him #1 status??? Oh I know, it's because Lyon hadn't started yet. Swann is a hack and will never take 200 wickets! How embarassing. Just shows how bad the home grown talent is! Time to start importing again!

  • Elliott_Tree on January 9, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Marvellous, glad to see the cricinfo banter is at full strength for the start of 2012, which should be an excellent year of test cricket. Much has already been seen: Ind definitely are rubbish away from home - the thrashing in Eng wasn't just a world cup/IPL hang-over; Aus aren't going into terminal decline and should still be worth a 5 test Ashes series; RandyOZ still only has one joke (which is still utterly hilarious, please do keep telling it every time you post. I always picture you chuckling away to yourself - it's a wonderful image). Anyway, bring it all on, and lets just hope for good pitches in all corners of the cricketing world.

  • Deuce03 on January 9, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    The two openers certainly aren't hanging about. Why can't England bat like this in ODIs?!

  • Deuce03 on January 9, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    This is all looking very promising. England running relatively smoothly, especially the bowling (this is a warm-up match, let's remember) and shaking off the cobwebs. The ICC XI have performed creditably so far and done themselves a lot of favours (Paul Stirling's disappointment notwithstanding). A great idea and one that seems to be going well - let's hope we get a decent finish!

  • satish619chandar on January 9, 2012, 7:36 GMT

    @5wombats : Lol.. One series win in Australia after years of merciless drubbing makes u speak like dominating Aussies for ever? Now, Aussies are on resurgence mate.. It would be a better Ashes next time around!! More challenging than the last couple..

  • satish619chandar on January 9, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    My friend was joking.. ICC Associate Combined 11 Vs International combined 11.. Lol.. @jmcilhinney : Chill man.. What they say about the United 11 is just true.. How many players are local players? Will u agree on India picking Bollinger/Chris Gayle just because he plays in IPL and did not represent their home nation for last year?

  • Precioustar84 on January 9, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    @5wombats - hilarious comment!! Indian fans would never pretend to be Pakistanis and pakistanis would never pretend to be indians just to get a point across. I'll remember this post from you and see how many "respectful and knowledgeable" pakistanis you find if Eng lose anytime during the tour. Your comment alone proves how ignorant you are about both the nations. Cricinfo please publish

  • YorkshirePudding on January 9, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Anyone who though that the ICC IX was going to be a team of 'pie-chuckers' was mistaken. England needed a challenge and taking a team of the top players from the Associates and Affiliates was going to cause problems. rather than detracting from england, it does ask the question if an Assocaites XI is doing this to England, where does that leave the Indian bowling attack.........Anyone whos followed england for some time will know that this year was going to be difficult, with 3 tours to very alien conditions, I suppose that why they call it TEST cricket, because its about testing yourself. FYI : England can lose 3-0 to pakistan and stay #1, I think it might even raise Pakistan to 4/5 above India if India lose 4-0 to Aus.

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 5:38 GMT

    @HatsforBats, I know which team I'd rather be embarrassed by too: none. That performance against the WI was considered the absolute low point for English cricket and they were definitely not considered contenders for the #1 spot at the time. Do you really think that your comparison flatters Australia? The fact is that that was a rubbish performance by Australia so if they are capable of winning games after that then why would anyone assume that England can't win games after this? After all, England did score two more innings victories in the last Ashes after losing in Perth.

  • silly_pt on January 9, 2012, 5:19 GMT

    If only this England team can win in India & SL (because WI & Aus have managed it consistently at their peak) & give Pakistan whitewash in England (Pak has been toughest opponent to England in England) I will consider this English team best of present era. (though I very much appreciate their overall cricketing skills) Cricinfo Publish.

  • g.narsimha on January 9, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    MR 5WOMBAT untill now it was team INDIA on your MENU every where ,now it came down to indians inteligence/kwoledge , we are disopointed on our teams performance first in eng &now in aus , some one here gave batting ave.of ENGLAND players , some time batting ave.doesnt work as happening to our famed batting line up our all fab 4 ave 50+in ENG, AUS , sachins average in overseas is better than home , so my sinceare request leave our team for its destination , agree your team done miracles,in beating us in ur home , that is history , now concentrate on your team which is out here from its comfort zone, i cant say whether the happenings in tour opener are indicative of what we are going to see in uae, but if pakistan plays to its true potential ,no body can stop them ,how ever best of luck ,

  • SamRoy on January 9, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    England have a mental barrier when they are playing spin on a turning track. It's not a question of ability. Strauss, Bell and Morgan are pretty good players of spin and Pietersen and Cook are more than decent against spin but it is just a mental block that sooner or later they will get out.

  • Omarrz on January 9, 2012, 3:58 GMT

    after excluding the asian minnows--> http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=11;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=27;host=6;host=7;host=8;orderby=won;team=1;template=results;type=team

  • Omarrz on January 9, 2012, 3:57 GMT

    Have a look at England's record in sub-continent and in England/Australia across all 3 formats:

    SubContinent/Middleeast --> http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=11;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=25;host=27;host=6;host=7;host=8;orderby=won;team=1;template=results;type=team

    Aus/England --> http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=11;filter=advanced;home_or_away=1;host=1;host=2;orderby=won;team=1;template=results;type=team

  • Omarrz on January 9, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    @5wombats --> may be I must have missed to mention that England only plays well in either England or in Australia. I don't think they even have a good record in RSA. But one thing is for sure, they suck in sub-continent and middle east. And they will suck again for sure in the upcoming series.

  • dicky_boy on January 9, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    Very interesting series I hope England crush Pakistan and silence some Pakistan supporters And England by far the best team ATLEAST outside subcontinent

  • lebigfella on January 9, 2012, 2:59 GMT

    Dearest All Your comments full of tangental prose and seeming endless references to SRT (one for all you Indian fans there) I will say this... stick in there, continue to love cricket, love life and keep the passionate & entertaining opinions, quips, debates, bleats and bickers coming... it adds to Cricinfo :o) England are number one for a reason. A bit of rustiness will make them all realize and remember that to get to the pinnacle of the cricket world you need infinite amounts of skill, dedication and hard graft... ALL will come good and the magic will once again start to happen... It will be particularly golden years for Bell, Broad and Cook again... three exceptional players! Let the top class cricket of 2012 commence

  • 2.14istherunrate on January 9, 2012, 2:45 GMT

    @drsankalp- You need to know something. It is now 2012, and England are preparing to play Pakistan by having a three day fixture vICC Associate XI. This is not billed as a 1 day game, and whilst i know it's one of the symptoms that you have to mention world champs India, and all roads lead there etc, India are in this universe getting the crap knocked out of them by Australia. Please get help!!!!

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 2:45 GMT

    Many have said, since Ireland's good showing at the WC, that they should be awarded test status. Boyd Rankin has done his bit for the cause but Stirling & Porterfield certainly haven't.

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 2:43 GMT

    Just days ago jonesy2 said that three innings of 0, 1 and 0 for Shaun Marsh wasn't long enough to write him off. Now he wants to write off England as #1 test team after one innings, and that not even in a test match. He would have them replaced by Australia based on their two wins against the same opposition England demolished to take the #1 spot in the first place. This is the same Australia who recently were bowled out for 47 and then lost to NZ at home. That's some really sound logic there. Maybe we should listen to RandyOz, who said before Melbourne that Ponting needed to be axed and selecting Hilfenhaus was a step backwards, then during Sydney said that Hilfenhaus was part of the world's best bowling attack and Ponting was showing Tendulkar why he was the second best batsman ever. How is that guy not Australia's chief of selectors? This is a warm up match and England are using it to warm up. If they could come out of the blocks running then they wouldn't have any warm ups.

  • jmcilhinney on January 9, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    This is a disappointing display by the batsmen, no doubt, but does anyone really believe that the declaration was anything other than an effort to give the bowlers bowling practice rather than batting practice? Funny that people like jonesy2 feel the need to comment more than once on a story about an England warmup game that's not even in Australia. The guy follows England more closely than I do! When you know you're good you don;t have to keep saying it all the time. Those who keep saying that they're good and others are not only do so in a pathetic attempt to convince others and themselves. One can only conclude that jonesy2 and RandyOz know that England is better than Australia. How else can you explain RandyOz' only criticism of England being the whole "United XI" fixation? If Australia were better than England then why would that matter... and matter SOOOOOO much?

  • landl47 on January 9, 2012, 1:49 GMT

    Relax, folks, it's a practice game. When England have lost 4 in a row (like India in their last test series against England ) or been beaten three times by an innings (like Australia in their last test series against England ) or been bowled out 3 times for under 100 (like Pakistan in their last test series against England), then I'll start to get worried. Until then, the reason for having practice games is to get back into the routine of playing, especially when most of the side haven't played for a couple of months. I'd like to see the top 6 batsmen have 60+ balls each, to give them the feel of batting for more than an hour, but otherwise who cares? BTW, Swann took 9-208, including a sixfer in the second innings, to bowl England to victory in the last test England played. Writing him off when his last test was a matchwinning performance seems somewhat premature.

  • Mervo on January 9, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    Really England should be the "international team", with all their South Africans, Irishmen and so on.

  • LillianThomson on January 9, 2012, 1:28 GMT

    I remember in 1988 when Mushtaq Ahmed was called up at 17 to play a side match against England beside a biscuit factory. He took 6-81 and the rest is history. If the Pakistan selectors had the same guts they would call up Abdul Qadir's 18 year old son/clone Usman from the Under'19s in South Africa, and throw him straight into the Test team. England will comfortably see off two finger spinners. But a wrist spinner who bowls like Abdul Qadir?

  • HatsforBats on January 9, 2012, 1:06 GMT

    @ Patchmaster; I seem to remember Eng getting bowled out for 51 by WI not too long ago. SA or WI? I know which team I'd rather be embarrassed by.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 9, 2012, 0:57 GMT

    Very interesting.... England bowled well but got out to a non-member bowling unit. Not sure if that was expected or not.

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:43 GMT

    I am not sure what is all the fuss about? England is #1 for a reason and BTW this is a WARM UP so calm dowm guys. The declaration is part of the strategies to make sure they are warm up who care of the last two add 2 runs or 200 they are bowlers they need bowling practice NOT batting right . I just laugh when some of you just make a big deal about nothing... WARM UP MATCH MEANS practice before the real thing :):)

  • 5wombats on January 8, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    With respect @Omarrz - since when did England's backyard extend as far as Australia? Depending on which direction you go that backyard would have to include either india or the West Indies. Anyway, most of the England fans on here would settle for being mediocre as long as we beat Australia home and away..... AND, you know what @Omarrz - in 3 of the last 4 series; WE HAVE!!!! Thanks for that @Omarrz! Keep posting mate!

  • me54321 on January 8, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    It certainly is a little embarrassing, but it's definitely better than bowling them out cheaply and getting no real practise. We declared because it's a practise match, and there's no point in giving your bowlers batting practise, especially when your batsmen spent very little time in the middle.

  • drsankalp on January 8, 2012, 22:59 GMT

    The concept of ICC vs England seem to be height of stupidity.How can third rated test team play against world eleven. Whosoever thought of such match must be lacking cricketing brain. If at all they wanted to keep match it should have been between world champ India vs ICC combined 11.

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    @Omarrz, Have you forgotten Eng bt Aus in Aus a year ago ? Pak played there the year before and lost every game! In terms of the declaration the reason is quite simple. What's the point of Finn and Anderson being out there wasting time in the middle blocking and nudging the ball around ? they can do that in the nets, better they are out there trying to bowl the associates out quickly so Eng's top order get some more time at the crease tomorrow. This is only a practice game it really doesn't matter whether Eng win it or not it's all about the team being ready for the first test and judging by how the batting went today the batsmen need more time in the middle.

  • CandidIndian on January 8, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    5wombats-I have immense respect for England team and i have never failed to congratulate them after every match,even when my team was getting thrashed in Eng last year.I accept that there were lot of trash talking by my fellow Indian fans, but its not fair to pick up on Indians every time .Khan1983 has written against India too,yet you presume he is an Indian fan and write this *Khan1983 & Waseem Ather must be india fans. True Pakistan fans are highly knowledgeable and respectful and would never say such things*, i must tell you true Indian fans are knowledgeable and respectful tool, and you will find many such comments from Indian side in forums.This is a free world you can presume that every anti English subcontinent fan is an Indian and hate all Indians if you like so, i can only request you not to do so,rest is up-to you, regards .

  • igorolman on January 8, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    There's no question that this is anything but embarrassing. However, England have got to #1 in the world by backing players to perform, and the top 7 have all responded (Strauss needs run sif England don't keep winning). Let's start worrying after day 1 of the first Test, shall we?

  • Lmaotsetung on January 8, 2012, 22:23 GMT

    Eng declared so their batsmen can have another go for their out of form/rusty batsmen and the better chance of actually get a second inning going after their pathetic performance in the 1st. Nothing to do with getting bowled out. Everything Eng does there is a good common sense reason behind it if you actually follow them and know the team inside out.

  • JG2704 on January 8, 2012, 22:18 GMT

    @ Sir_Freddie_Flintoff on (January 08 2012, 19:12 PM GMT) - On hindsight I was being a little OTT even contemplating this. I do feel Swann has gone off the boil a bit recently but I guess his exceptional form before this year (and even this year vs SL) have probably made his ordinary performances seem even worse. However re Monty , he was batting along with Jimmy to save the Cardiff test vs Australia in a draw which felt like a win. I'd say that match was a pivotal point in England's rise and so it was only for a limited time but I'd say that shows a bit of mental strength. I hope Monty at least plays in the next warm up match. Whichever bowlers they go with I'm sure they'll do a decent job - we're spoilt for choice in that dept

  • JG2704 on January 8, 2012, 22:18 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas on (January 08 2012, 19:07 PM GMT) - Think it's a good declaration. Swann ,Anderson and Finn aren't there for their batting and by declaring it should give them more bowling practice. I would say that this is particularly important as we have Bresnan , Tremlett and Monty out there yet to play so maybe they'll play all 3 in the next game to gage which bowlers they want to go with in the 1st test. As I have put numerous times I'd like to see them go for a 5 man attack but as Sirviv put they'll probably go with just a 4 man attack. I also think they should give Ravi a run out in the next game

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:17 GMT

    @SirViv1973 i have no doubt england will bring on there A game they are far too professional nowadays that was a response to someone else who was almost implying it was a forgone conclusion that england would win... i agree that it wouldnt only be home games that would have done but my point here was that pakistans main excuse has been they are playing away tours if they played at home this wouldnt be seen as an excuse and more talanted players could have been brought in. in fact the current pakistan 11 probably isnt the best 11....

  • CandidIndian on January 8, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    This is just a warm up game, Eng are currently best test team and even in subcontinent conditions they are likely to do very well.It will be interesting to see that pitches in Dubai will be flat like they always are or PCB makes an effort to provide spin friendly tracks to give so called home advantage to Ajmal and other spinners.

  • 5wombats on January 8, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - au contraire mon ami; Wombats LOVE Ian Bell! Dream about him in down in the burrow we do. Seems like you read our post on the other thread. It's true though - during the 2005 Ashes Bell was not on our Christmas list. We'll never know if Thorpe (as a left hander and thus more suseptible) would have done better against Warne. Now Ian Bell is right up there. I tell my boy to watch him, even though he likes KP better! On a sadder note - looks like your boy Dravid is coming in to dock for the last time fairly soon. Watching him was one of the high spots of our cricket education; him and Ganguly at Lords (mind you, it was a bit like watching paint dry at times....).

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    @khan1983, You really do talk a lot of nonsense, however you are entitled to your opinion but that's all it is, is an opinion. I have used the stats to back up my argument, something which you are clearly unable to do.

  • on January 8, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    England will come good, I'm confident of it, bowlers are doing good and batsmen just need some practice.

  • Patchmaster on January 8, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    @ Jonesy - AUS are a joke mate, Haddin drops more stuff that a B52 bomber, you lost to NZ, and you were all out for 47 the other day. Your test ranking is flattering at best. All these new so called fast bowlers ? - well Hillfanhaus & Siddle spent most of last Summer being smashed around the park by ENG batsmen, and Anderson, Broad and Finn are head and shoulders above anything you have, expect more of the same mate, and maybe a few notches lower on the rankings to boot.

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    I'm really disappointed that Straussy declared so early, I mean on that track Jimmy Anderson was a shoe-in for a maiden 1st class century ..lol.....Seriously though, a good run out for Eng, and to be frank a good reality check dealt them by the ICC bowlers....Hamid impressed during the world 20/20 when he roughed up the Saffers batsmen and looks a very good bowler, also Boyd Rankin is looking close to the real deal now, the Eng selectors definitely have their eye on him, and why not? he wants to play for england! .....TBH this ICC would beat quite a few test teams (and who knows, might even beat england tomorrow - unlikely though) but a good chance for eng batsmen to shake off their ring rust tomorrow.....and to jonesy & randyoz, you're both good for a laugh fellas, and I would laugh with you both, but I have a sneaky feeling that you both actually believe in your deluded rhetoric!

  • Greatest_Game on January 8, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    This game clearly illustrates the strengths and weaknesses of the England team. Their strong and well disciplined bowling attack has achieved consistent results despite a series of injuries over the last year that has had Broad, Tremlett, Finn & Bresnan cycling in & out.

    Their batting is their weakness. Cook, & Bell have posted big scores in 50% of their innings over the last year, but have been the only consistent Englishmen. Strauss (like SA's Smith) has been pathetic, averaging 28.72 over 12 months, & could never make the team without the captain's mantle. When the imports fail to fire, England's glaring weakness is exposed. In this match, three bowlers scored 45 - only 4 runs less than the 49 scored by 6 batsmen who averaged 8.166 compared the the bowlers' 22.5! Until England stop relying on a stream of batting talent from abroad, & nurture young talent to develop a batting pool that can match their bowling, collapses like this will continue.

  • JG2704 on January 8, 2012, 21:34 GMT

    cheers for your opinions guys. I guess I'm getting a little carried away re Swann and forget that the Sri Lanka series would have finished 0-0 without him. I still would like to see them pick a 5-1-5 formation purely because I feel that (presuming they go with Anderson,Broad,Swann) that 2 from Finn,Tremlett,Bresnan and Monty will do more damage with the ball than 1 + Morgan would do with the bat. I feel that these warm up matches would have been an ideal time to try this out. I hope they do try this out in the next match.

  • Omarrz on January 8, 2012, 21:27 GMT

    @5wombats --> " Look at the declaration - they must be fairly confident they can bowl them out cheap and then get the runs."

    They declared because they didn't want to face the humiliation of getting bowled and concede a huge deficit!

    Anyway, I knew this would happen to England. They are just like Indian team. They only play well in their own backyard, a very mediocre team outside their own den

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    English were lucky that Hamid Hassan injured if he was okay i am pretty sure that all English bowled till 100... Long Live 4 Hero Hamid Hassan... Cheers from Afghanistan

  • r1zzy on January 8, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    England deserve their num 1 spot...they are the best all round team in the world.....good batsmen, good bowles and good fielding.....fact. To these people who are righting off England...seriously are you feeling alright! Pak are great bowelrs but average everywhere else. You cant read much into this game...it is a warm up game and England will come good..the England bowlers are looking dangerous. Pak are doing great at the moment and Inshallah they will give it a go and have a good entertaining series with England and win. England are the team to beat at the moment...Inshallah Pak can do it...or at least give them a good game. Best of luck to both teams.

  • 5wombats on January 8, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster on (January 08 2012, 18:37 PM GMT); "I wouldn't write off England that quickly yet...". how very magnanimous of you. BTW, now that you have given up on India - who were you planning to support? @JG2704 - it's only a warm up - and we'll either win or draw tomorrow. Look at the declaration - they must be fairly confident they can bowl them out cheap and then get the runs.

  • hhillbumper on January 8, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    Jonesey 2.How you doing mate.I want to hear your excuse for 47 all out let alone losing to New Zealand? This is the first match for a while and it takes time to get in your stride.By the way how is that Wicketkeeper of yours.Still got a world class top 3.

  • yorkshirematt on January 8, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    The whole point of these warm up matches is to iron out any mistakes and rustiness before the series proper starts. It would be nice if England could hit the ground running like they did in the warm up matches before the Ashes but this is a more low key series they are preparing for and rustiness is going to show. As long as they learn that they're not just going to turn up and score runs just like that, they'll be fine.

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    @JG2704, I think it's a bit early to be talking about dropping Swann, I would imagine he will get another chance to find some form against Pak A a game which I would expect Monty to play in aswell. Even if Monty out bowls him in that game I would be shocked if he dosen't play in the 1st test. Eng will certainly go with 7 batters 3 seamers and a spinner for first test. I think Eng would only go with 5 bowlers if they go behind in the series and even then it would probably depend on Bresnan's fitness as I don't think Eng would want to risk playing Monty in a 4 or 5 man attack without Bresnan and Broad in it.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 8, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    I think we should also change our batting order a bit. Pietersen is no longer our best batsman. In fact, he is way down the list after Bell, Cook and Trott at least. So, he shouldn't bat at the all important no. 4 spot. Prior could also be promoted one spot depending on Morgan's form. My preferred batting lineup is: Cook, Strauss, Bell, Trott, Pietersen, Prior, Morgan, Broad, Bresnan, Swann, Anderson.

  • Khan1983 on January 8, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    @SirViv1973 the stat guru, England benefits from such lofty stats only because most of cricketing nations are in transition and as Strauss also acknowledged that by calling Pakistan the other 'formed' side, he knows this for a fact.As a 'formed'side that only thrives on seaming pitches (hence the huge contrast between Summer cricket in England and subsequent Indian Tour),numbers don't show class , they only show consistency on home conditions.I wonder how much of these stats help them now, once they are out of their comfort zone

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 8, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    @JG2704 Picking Monty would be a HUGE mistake in my opinion. And I can't believe you actually suggested dropping Swanny for Monty. Have you already forgotten those dark days of 2006-08 when Monty repeatedly failed when he was expected to win matches for us? For me, he never had the bowling variety and the mental attitude required to succeed at the highest level. If we have to play 5 bowlers, I would pick Tremlett instead. With Broad, Swann and Bresnan all capable batsmen we can afford to play with 5 bowlers.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 8, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    @Dave Rothery: I think I will agree to your point. In Asian conditions the bowling really has to click if a team has to restrict the opposition from scoring runs. England has a poor record in such conditions so it is only sensible to give some bowling time to the bowlers. I don't think England would do bad especially since it's test cricket. Any comparisons to the ODI team would be purely illogical and foolish in my opinion. There are also other teams who excel in certain formats and screw up in test cricket.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 8, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    What's this thing with declaring on 185/8? May be England didn't want to get bowled out against Associates XI. Batsmen are rusty but Swann almost got to a century in the first inning while bowling. I'll watch him closely as I'm beginning to strongly feel that he is overly hyped like Harbhajan Singh. I hope Bell scores well on Asian tracks. He has to prove a point that he is the best English batsman along with KP and Trott on Asian tracks. He is the most elegant English batsman by a distance. Next, he is technically the most correct English batsman along with Trott. 5wombats and some others may not like me praising Bell (since he replaced Thorpe) but one can't take anything away from Bell just because he replaced your favourite player. That's life mates.....

  • JG2704 on January 8, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    @the English fans -can't be bothered to respond to these nomarks who have nothing constructive to say.TBH I'm disappointed with our batting and our inability to wrap up the lower order/tail yesterday.On the positive side its good to see Broad back and Im starting to wonder if they are trying to manage the seamers workloads as Swann , our least effective bowler (statswise) both wickets and economy bowled the most overs in 1st inns.Dare I say it,is there a possibility of Monty coming in for Swann?I know it's a huge call at this stage and you would lose batting potential and Swann's slip fielding but Id say Monty has bowled better in 2011.Another thing is I'd still like to see a 5 man bowling attack with Morgan making way ,possibly for Monty or another paceman.I'm guessing that Prior is rested.There was I saying that we needed a sterner warm up game but guess some of these players are more familiar with conditions.Hopefully it's a combo of rust and familiarising ourselves with conditions

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster - I don't think England fans need to give them space, we know it's a warm up and the first run out for 3 months for most of them. If the team was bothered about the result, why declare? I think they are more interested in giving the bowlers a shakedown.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 8, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    Jonsey, you're always good for a laugh. Remind me of the result of the New Zealand series? Thne series against South Africa? Talk us through that 47 all out if you like... take your time. Seriously, if England play like this in the 1st Test, you can comment on their imminent decline, but it ain't gonna happen... at least, not so quickly :-).

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    Yep. Everyone laughed at Aus before the India series saying that they had no hope because they were recently dismissed for 47 runs. What are those people saying now. When are we going to learn to shut up and wait for the series to begin??

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    @Asghar Maqsood, I would say that it is shame Pak haven't been able to play at home for the last 3 yrs and the sooner that changes the better. However I'm not convinced you would be any higher in the rankings. There have been a lot of issues with the Pakistani team in the past few yrs and it's not just been down to no home games. Having said that the current team is going in the right direction and if it becomes poss to start playing at home again soon then I think Pak could become a real force over the nxt 2 or 3 yrs. On the other point it would have been nice to see more of the batters get some runs but they will get another chance 2mor and there is another game in a few days to iron things out. These are good players on the associate side thats why we are playing them & not having a 14 a side game against some local club players which was the sort of thing which used to happen, trust me Eng will be ready for 1st test & they will bring their A game so Pak best be ready.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 8, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    I wouldn't write off England that quickly yet. Folks they are coming from a long break and need some time to adjust. You can never rule away complacency either BUT I think England are too professional a team to have an attitude like that. There is still another warm up game before the 1st test so I would give them some space if I were an England fan.

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    @Khan1983, If you think this is an ave team that survives on team spirit alone then you need to have a look at the individual stats. 6 of Eng top 7 ave 42 or better in tests with Pietersen, Cook and Trott all ave 50 or better. The only one who ave less is Morgan who is still fairly new to the team and still has a useful ave in the high 30's. 5 of the 7 bowlers ave 30 or less, the only 2 that don't are Broad who's ave is just over 30 and coming down all the time and Monty who won't play, theses 2 still have 248 test wickets between them! Broad, Bresnan and Swan are all bowlers but ave between 24 and 45 with a bat! These are stats the current crop of Pak players can only dream of MATE!

  • Stark62 on January 8, 2012, 18:14 GMT

    I'm pretty sure that the batsmen were rusty and complacent because they may have taken it too lightly thinking they would score 100's without too much effort and I fully expect Eng to vastly different from here on in.

  • spence1324 on January 8, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    @khan1983 is that opposed to pakistan who have never been the no 1 team ever,some quality talent there!

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    @SirViv1973 im not going to disagree with you about the no.1 spot that i think is safe especially when you look around SA might be close but i think england have better bench strength... however although your stats are correct i do think alot of pakistans downfall has been because of no 'real' home games... otherwise and this is only my opinion pakistan would be on a few more points dare i say even in the top 4...although this is a practice match i think most england fans will agree this was fairly disappointing and the batsman would have liked some time in the middle but i dont want to take anything away from icc xi they have done extremely well...

  • WillPash on January 8, 2012, 17:28 GMT

    And this brilliant ICC XI performance which was done this without Ten Doeschate, the best associate player today (according to stats). Looking forward to the third day's play. I think now regular ICC XI appearances should be seriously considered. Impressed with Afghani's tenacity, Irish skill and the contribution from the rest (including Viljoen's innings). With England, this will be the best wake up call as this shows that they are not invincible; despite the UK press make them out to be. I am looking forward to seeing this Pakistani team in this series, their form has been brilliant since the unfortunate events back 18 months ago. Makings of a great series.

  • Rohit... on January 8, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    @5wombats Pakistan fans are highly knowledgeable and respectful and would never say such things. ROFL.You made my day.LOL.

  • Khyber2012 on January 8, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    Well done Mohammad Shahzad and Mohammad Nabi, infact the whole ICC Combined XI team. You guys are competing with the words best team. Afghan players truely deserve to play against test nations. Bad luck for Hamid, but never mind. Afghan's can deal with any challenge. Good luck ICC Combined XI and England x1.

  • FeddyFeddy on January 8, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Welcome to the UAE Englishmen ! This match wud be a real eye opener for England team and I hope in the second warm up PAK A team gives another tough time time to them and make the way more easier for PAK cric team morally and mentally for the real test!!

  • 5wombats on January 8, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Khan1983 & Waseem Ather must be india fans. True Pakistan fans are highly knowledgeable and respectful and would never say such things.

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    @kingofspain i think england will need to play there A game to win as if they play like this i think the pakistan team will have plenty too chirp about... fortunately this is only a warm up game so im guessing this has brought a little reality that this isnt going to be easy @Sir_Freddie_Flintoff i think that the icc xi would beat most teams currently such is the poor state of test cricket...

  • SirViv1973 on January 8, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    @Waseem Ather, Firstly may I point out that this is only a practice match designed to help Eng get used to the conditons in the UAE. I would also like to ask you if you have actually seen any of this match ? if not how can you call this a pathetic performance, how many of the associate players have you seen play previously? secondly who do you think are currently good enough to replace Eng as no1 ? SAF will now be the 2nd ranked team but have just won their first home series in 4 yrs! Ind will be 3rd and have just lost their last 6 tests away from home, 3 of the last 4 by an inns! Aus are 4th a team Eng have beaten home and away in the last 2 series. Or are you going to say Pak ? Pak are on a gd run but have not beaten 1 of the top 4 teams in a series for 6 yrs and besides they are currently so many points behind, even if they win every test match they play this yr they still won't be any where near the No1 spot! compared to these Eng have won 8 & drawn 1 of their last 9 series!

  • jonesy2 on January 8, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    haha ah well england you had a decent run, bit shorter than i expected, but the universe can return to normal. hey, maybe you will win a couple of game again in 15 years or so?

  • Khan1983 on January 8, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    @spence1324/kingofspain,Mates! English team is an average team with good team spirit who require assistance from surfaces to help its bowlers! India has always been over hyped team (home lions and wet cats abroad) and the Australia team you won from lost also to down the list NZ team, so dont be so confident.The only virtue is their team spirit which isn't enuf in the face of quality talent! 'rusty' says cook, quite laughable I would say

  • CricketingStargazer on January 8, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    The normal wind-up comments! England will stay #1 even if they lose the series 3-0, which they will not, thanks to the fact that South Africa, India and Australia have been so inconsistent that the England lead at the top of the ICC rankings has increased steadily over the last few months. England needed decent opposition for the first match and they have got it from a team of players who are properly motivated and many of whom are good enough to play Test cricket. This is a first match of the tour, not a Test!!! Players PRACTICE!!! :-)

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    The idea of ICC eleven is fairly good for top performers trapped in associate teams. I think ICC should come up with a regular squad on permanent basis and give status of International matches to such games.

    This will be a great reward for highly talented cricketers of all associates and affiliates.Pakistan should also invite this team for First Class tournament to bring international cricket in some form to Pakistan.

  • OmerKKhan on January 8, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    I am from pak, pak would make dead tracks to avoid defeat and even a tail ender can make a century on the UAE pitches.

  • OptimusPrimal on January 8, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    I think India should get some of these associate players to play for them. At least they'll cross 200 in a test more often.

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    @spence1324: don't harp about county cricket, the only guy from county whose done well in this game is Boyd Rankin. Hamid Hassan, Mohammad Nabi, Viljoen, Mohammad Shahzad aren't county cricketers. The bragging rights of being no.1 are about to end for England, you guys are going to be less convincing as no.1 than India, including this one you lads are going to lose atleast 2 series this year in Asia and probably going to lose to South Africa.

  • spence1324 on January 8, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    @khan1983,the fact that england bowlers are getting wickets on 'flat tracks' against a fairly decent outfit of batters (a lot of these guys are regular county cricketers),should tell you all that you need to know about the capabilities of this bowling attack.ps england are the no 1 test team not bad fore a butch of average cricketers!

  • on January 8, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    THE STAY ON TOP SEEMS WILL COME TO END RATHER SO QUICKLY FOR ENGLAND what a pathetic performance by no.1 test team England against inexperienced first class side. i think they will lose their ranking faster than they have tried to achieve it. good luck for rest of teams for this opportunity. England will lose this series very easily

  • kingofspain on January 8, 2012, 15:57 GMT

    Khan1983, if you're an India supporter, this "mediocre" England side beat India 4-0 just a few months ago. If you're Pakistani,l I don't think you'll have too much to chirp about once the real matches begin so you better do it now.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    ICC X1 played really well.I feel sad that Hassan injured .he is a top bowler hope he recover soon,Shahzad batted well yesterday and also today hope both MS,shahzad M,nabi bat well tomarrow .that,s a good step by ICC to give these guys chance play against test Nation..

  • Khan1983 on January 8, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    I love to see analysis of the blind/barmy army on this match so far, surely No.1 test team was supposed to wallop the associates but they were facing a rout within 200 and now again with new ball gone, they are appearing as average as they always have been.

  • tfjones1978 on January 8, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    I think the first two days show that The Associates should be getting more 3 or 4 day cricket against the full teams of the full members. I recommend the ICC use The Associates as one warm up (3 or 4 day match) for each up coming series over the next 18 months ... giving them say 8 to 12 matches by June 2013. From July 2013 The Associates should play test cricket as part of the FTP with an organisation (Associates Cricket Organisation) set up to work like National boards to when raining over state boards (ie: each associate team). The ACO should be controlled by the 36 associate members with the purpose to increase the quality of play of associate cricket and to field a strong test team starting July 2013. ICC funding for ICup & other associate funded events should be given to ACO to organise the events ... associates often complain that ICC is organising events in a way that doesnt suit the associates ... Would WI allow ICC to run their domestic comp?

  • therealutopianindigent on January 8, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    This match is a BRILLIANT concept. Afghanistan obviously have some seriously good players eg. Hamid Hassan. Test status? And then, of course, a lot of South Africans who wouldn't otherwise get an opportunity, are playing...

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Well done Afghan youngstars Inshallah ICC Combined X1 will win, Shahzad and Nabi will make big total for England X1 to win this game, It is great chance for Afghan youngstars to play against big team.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Hamid's Injury Hurt Me So Much .. I Believed of 5+ Wickets Haul For Him As He Has Taken Often In Such Series ...Unfortunately He Was Injured And That was good luck of England .. Muhammad Shahzad Is Running Machine .He Is Top Runner In Associates and Affiliates with Best Average and SR..

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Well done associates ,I hope Mohammad Shahzad will get century tomorrow INSHALLAH .

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 8, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    The ICC XI is dominating the match against the no. 1 team in the world. What does that tell you about the other test teams? Especially Australia -- who got pummeled by this England side last year? I think Australia would have been bowled out for less than 47 in both innings and the match would've been over within a day!

  • jackiethepen on January 8, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    It's good to see Alastair Cook back in form. Wedding bells have proved a tonic. But let's give him some credit for his innings as he didn't bat much at the Oval. His 294 was a pearler but he was not among the runs in the other 3 Test matches against India.

  • sadapukhton on January 8, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    I feel bad for hamed hassan, hoping him a speedy recovery, well done Afghan loins u have done a great job..really proud of you guys n well ICC com. 11 u guys show the england never under estimate someone. if in the morning u show resistance i am sure the match will drawn.

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  • sadapukhton on January 8, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    I feel bad for hamed hassan, hoping him a speedy recovery, well done Afghan loins u have done a great job..really proud of you guys n well ICC com. 11 u guys show the england never under estimate someone. if in the morning u show resistance i am sure the match will drawn.

  • jackiethepen on January 8, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    It's good to see Alastair Cook back in form. Wedding bells have proved a tonic. But let's give him some credit for his innings as he didn't bat much at the Oval. His 294 was a pearler but he was not among the runs in the other 3 Test matches against India.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 8, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    The ICC XI is dominating the match against the no. 1 team in the world. What does that tell you about the other test teams? Especially Australia -- who got pummeled by this England side last year? I think Australia would have been bowled out for less than 47 in both innings and the match would've been over within a day!

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Well done associates ,I hope Mohammad Shahzad will get century tomorrow INSHALLAH .

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Hamid's Injury Hurt Me So Much .. I Believed of 5+ Wickets Haul For Him As He Has Taken Often In Such Series ...Unfortunately He Was Injured And That was good luck of England .. Muhammad Shahzad Is Running Machine .He Is Top Runner In Associates and Affiliates with Best Average and SR..

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Well done Afghan youngstars Inshallah ICC Combined X1 will win, Shahzad and Nabi will make big total for England X1 to win this game, It is great chance for Afghan youngstars to play against big team.

  • therealutopianindigent on January 8, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    This match is a BRILLIANT concept. Afghanistan obviously have some seriously good players eg. Hamid Hassan. Test status? And then, of course, a lot of South Africans who wouldn't otherwise get an opportunity, are playing...

  • tfjones1978 on January 8, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    I think the first two days show that The Associates should be getting more 3 or 4 day cricket against the full teams of the full members. I recommend the ICC use The Associates as one warm up (3 or 4 day match) for each up coming series over the next 18 months ... giving them say 8 to 12 matches by June 2013. From July 2013 The Associates should play test cricket as part of the FTP with an organisation (Associates Cricket Organisation) set up to work like National boards to when raining over state boards (ie: each associate team). The ACO should be controlled by the 36 associate members with the purpose to increase the quality of play of associate cricket and to field a strong test team starting July 2013. ICC funding for ICup & other associate funded events should be given to ACO to organise the events ... associates often complain that ICC is organising events in a way that doesnt suit the associates ... Would WI allow ICC to run their domestic comp?

  • Khan1983 on January 8, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    I love to see analysis of the blind/barmy army on this match so far, surely No.1 test team was supposed to wallop the associates but they were facing a rout within 200 and now again with new ball gone, they are appearing as average as they always have been.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    ICC X1 played really well.I feel sad that Hassan injured .he is a top bowler hope he recover soon,Shahzad batted well yesterday and also today hope both MS,shahzad M,nabi bat well tomarrow .that,s a good step by ICC to give these guys chance play against test Nation..