Australia v England, 1st Test, Brisbane, 1st day November 21, 2013

Broad undermines Australia's challenge

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Australia 8 for 273 (Haddin 78*, Johnson 64, Broad 5-65) v England
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This was a day when the hounded became the hounder. Stuart Broad was treated to the boos and occasional abusive chants he knew would be inevitable at the Gabba after he had endured a cynical process of vilification but, as six Australian wickets tumbled for 132, even his most vocal assailants had to concede that baiting him had not exactly gone to plan.

His role as Ashes villain had merely strengthened his mindset. Figures of 5 for 65 in 20 overs on a day designed for batting stated as much.

"The wicket looks fantastic," said Michael Clarke, an Australia captain in renewed heart, as he won the toss at the start of the return Ashes series. The same could not be said of Australia's top-order batting. Presented with an opportunity to prove that they are capable of challenging England's supremacy, they flunked it, embarking on a collapse as extreme as any they suffered during the English summer.

Australia had singularly failed to get the flying start in the series to sustain their talk of renewed self-belief. For all that, they almost got away with it as Brad Haddin and Mitchell Johnson added 114 in 39 overs for the seventh wicket, Haddin awash with good sense, Johnson driving with a pendulum's free swing, both making half-centuries. England took the new ball with relief.

If Broad's first wicket - Chris Rogers, caught off the splice at gully in his second over - came with the Gabba at its most impassioned, his fifth wicket felt like the one England most needed. Johnson's stumps were sent flying, inviting a mobbing from his team-mates that was tinged with gratitude. An eighth Australia wicket, Peter Siddle, followed to James Anderson, but the redoubtable Haddin, unbowed after Broad struck him flush on the helmet, remained unbeaten on 78 at the close.

Australia should have made better use of a good toss. A few lonely clouds hung around blue skies to no great purpose and, although the pitch had decent bounce and carry, and enough moisture to give England hope, there was not the sideways movement they might have anticipated. They sorely needed their third seamer, Chris Tremlett, picked more on faith than form, to hold together and although his pace would barely trouble a speed camera, he did just that, intervening at a crucial stage to have Steven Smith caught at slip and relinquishing less than three runs an over.

But it was Broad who carried England's challenge, Broad who became the first player to 50 Test wickets this year, Broad who yearned to prove his worth to the Australian public just as Anderson had done before him. England's psychologists have concluded that three players in this side thrive on abuse: Broad is one of them. During the morning, he felt as if his rhythm was imperfect but clawed himself into the game.

Australia were reasonably content at 71 for 1, with lunch only four balls away, but Broad found a hint of extra bounce and away movement to expose Shane Watson, who was caught at second slip, and as five wickets fell for 61 in 20 overs their vision of mounting a concerted Ashes challenge in front of their own supporters was, at the very least, temporarily shelved.

England had reason to be grateful for a ball change a few overs before Watson's wicket. It was Broad who pursued and won it. Perhaps it will be presented as another low trick. It was a surprise nobody hollered for Broad to "leave our balls alone", just as they had told another Ashes villain, Douglas Jardine, to ignore the flies more than 80 years earlier.

Brisbane's regional paper, in a fake show of disgust, had brandished headlines stating that it would refuse to refer to Broad by name throughout the Test. Appointed as the Man With No Name, Broad went about his work with the suitably stony expression of Clint Eastwood in the film so titled, communicating that there was serious business to attend to.

There was not much short of a length from Broad, but what there was tended to bring him wickets. Michael Clarke perished against the first short ball he received. He has moved up in the order from No. 5 to No. 4 as much as anything because of expectations that he should "man up", but his back ailment leaves him statuesque and vulnerable against the short ball, especially one as wickedly directed as the delivery from Broad which he could only pop into the leg side.

David Warner had launched Australia's Ashes challenge with an aggressive opening statement, responding to Broad's first delivery - perhaps unintentionally short as his front foot slipped in the crease - by pulling it resoundingly in front of square.

But it is the restructuring of Warner's game, with the intention of discovering something more permanent, that is central to Australia's challenge and, with four domestic centuries to his name this season, he was at his most orderly in making 49 from 82 balls. His departure, though, was the most disappointing of all as he slapped a nondescript short delivery off the back foot straight to cover. Broad's previous ball had been a wide; he had been jeered for the last time.

George Bailey had become Australia's 436th Test cap and was presented with the baggy green before start of play by a former captain, Mark Taylor. His place had been won because of his exuberant displays in limited-overs cricket in India, a modest first-class record overlooked. It did not look much of a grounding as Anderson gave him a going over. He edged Anderson short of the wicketkeeper Matt Prior, tried to hook a bouncer and struck only fresh air, and his outside edge was passed more than once. Anderson finally rounded him up at first slip.

England's biggest scare came for Anderson 20 minutes before lunch. It is a new outfield at the Gabba and Anderson's attempts to slide on it to deny Warner a boundary through midwicket resulted in a huge divot tearing from the turf.

Memories of Simon Jones' injury when his knee dug into the Brisbane turf on the opening day of the 2002-03 tour briefly flared, but whereas Jones' tour - and almost his career - ended in an instant, Anderson brushed the mud from his trousers and rose to his feet, relieved to have suffered no permanent damage. That "no diving" orders would go out to the bowlers at lunch seemed inevitable. Instead it was Australia who nose-dived as their old frailties returned to haunt them.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • cric_J on November 21, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    What a gripping first day to kick off the Ashes ! It was worth all the wait and hype with England slightly on top at stumps.

    Broady couldn't have had a better start to his Ashes campaign, he couldn't have made a better statement to silence the crowd. He looked touch temperamental early on. But once he got his lines right and found control and accuracy, he wrecked havoc for the Aussies. He found a lot of awkward bounce for the batsmen, Pup's dismissal being a classic example of that.

    Jimmy was all class, but a bit unfortunate with too many edges not carrying and too many plays and misses. The Aussies clearly tried to get after Swann, but he did pretty well for a day-1 Gabba pitch IMO. I've been critical of Tremlett recently, but he maintained good control for most part of the day and did a decent holding up job.

    2 quick wickets tomorrow to restrict Aus to under 300 and then some solid batting to get 450+ should set us up nicely to be in control of the match.

  • ScottStevo on November 22, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    @JG2704, well said, mate. If there's one thing we've come to expect in Ashes series, it's the unexpected. Today was a huge day for Australia - massive. It will do Aus and the series the world of good if Aus can go on from here and win. But there's still every chance Aus get bowled out tomorrow for 150 and Eng make those without loss. Who knows what may be, but I'm looking forward to it...

  • on November 22, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    I am big fan of Aussie cricket but the double standards of the Aussie fans towards Broad is disappointing.

  • Harmony111 on November 22, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    Well what an inedible day of test cricket. When Mitch & Haddin were batting the wicket looked really dull, Tremlett looked like Venkatesh Prasad & only Broad looked likely to take wickets. I had never thought England would fall down like this. I expected something special from KP in his 100th test but he too went down for not much. I thought Bell would do well but nope. England's batting collapsed as if suddenly there was a new wicket there. Different time zones mean I could not see the first two sessions of the day. England are now in serious trouble here & Aus have 200+ runs lead with 10 wickets in hand. If Mitch continues to have his good mood for 3 more days then Eng won't be able to chase even 350 & I fully expect that even if Aus suffer a collapse, something from which they are never too far these days, then too the lead will reach around 450 for a min.

    Cricket, the game of glorious uncertainties has proven me wrong in a 180 degree manner.

  • Shaggy076 on November 22, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    Now with the state of play, I think a 100 sub-continent supporters need to apologise to Australia and the state of the pitch. Its an excellent wicket and for those saying England will be 1/400 dont ever underestimate the Australian bowling. We kept England batting in check in England and now so far this test. England batsman will learn and improve however the Australian bowling should never be underestimated.

  • MinusZero on November 22, 2013, 0:05 GMT

    Anyone else think that Clarke may be considering an early retirement if his back continues to play up. I dont see him playing past 34 or 35. Australia may need a new captaincy candidate sooner rather than later

  • Rowayton on November 22, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    Are there seriously people saying England should not have picked Swann? They have to be kidding. Any bowler is going to take 0-80 sometimes, it's an occupational hazard. As an Aussie, I would be delighted if England left out Swann, but their selectors aren't that dumb. Good day of cricket, Broad bowled well. The strength of this England side is that at least one of them always does well. When Broad has an off day, someone else will stand up.

  • on November 21, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    The crowd wasn't silenced . They gave it o Broad all day, even as he was holding the ball aloft for his 5 for. Not saying it's right or wrong to boo him, just saying they weren't silenced.

  • on November 21, 2013, 23:25 GMT

    @Shan156 - You got it wrong bud. Srinath after 62 tests has marginally better average and had more wickets than Broad had. Make no mistake, Srinath played lion's share of tests on Indian soil and still managed more number of wickets. Broad on the other hand played mostly on seaming tracks. Nothing to take away from Broad, but I'm just trying to mention that there are better bowlers around

  • wellrounded87 on November 21, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    Good fightback by Haddin and Johnson. Dissappointing batting from the top order. 5/6 wickets were poor shots. Watson and Bailey have no place in this side.

    I'm a huge fan of Watson but i am sick and tired of watching him do all the hard work early on, get himself in then throw his wicket away. It always seems to be at the worst of times too. 4 balls before lunch, i mean can it get any worse than that? Had he made it to lunch without losing a wicket England go into lunch behind with their heads down. But for him poking his bat at a wide delivery they went into lunch with their spirits lifted and that showed in the few overs after lunch. Broad was on fire in that spell.

    Have to give credit to Broad he's bowled really well and even though i think he should have walked i don't think he deserves the abuse he's getting. It's good to see he's not letting it get to him

  • cric_J on November 21, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    What a gripping first day to kick off the Ashes ! It was worth all the wait and hype with England slightly on top at stumps.

    Broady couldn't have had a better start to his Ashes campaign, he couldn't have made a better statement to silence the crowd. He looked touch temperamental early on. But once he got his lines right and found control and accuracy, he wrecked havoc for the Aussies. He found a lot of awkward bounce for the batsmen, Pup's dismissal being a classic example of that.

    Jimmy was all class, but a bit unfortunate with too many edges not carrying and too many plays and misses. The Aussies clearly tried to get after Swann, but he did pretty well for a day-1 Gabba pitch IMO. I've been critical of Tremlett recently, but he maintained good control for most part of the day and did a decent holding up job.

    2 quick wickets tomorrow to restrict Aus to under 300 and then some solid batting to get 450+ should set us up nicely to be in control of the match.

  • ScottStevo on November 22, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    @JG2704, well said, mate. If there's one thing we've come to expect in Ashes series, it's the unexpected. Today was a huge day for Australia - massive. It will do Aus and the series the world of good if Aus can go on from here and win. But there's still every chance Aus get bowled out tomorrow for 150 and Eng make those without loss. Who knows what may be, but I'm looking forward to it...

  • on November 22, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    I am big fan of Aussie cricket but the double standards of the Aussie fans towards Broad is disappointing.

  • Harmony111 on November 22, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    Well what an inedible day of test cricket. When Mitch & Haddin were batting the wicket looked really dull, Tremlett looked like Venkatesh Prasad & only Broad looked likely to take wickets. I had never thought England would fall down like this. I expected something special from KP in his 100th test but he too went down for not much. I thought Bell would do well but nope. England's batting collapsed as if suddenly there was a new wicket there. Different time zones mean I could not see the first two sessions of the day. England are now in serious trouble here & Aus have 200+ runs lead with 10 wickets in hand. If Mitch continues to have his good mood for 3 more days then Eng won't be able to chase even 350 & I fully expect that even if Aus suffer a collapse, something from which they are never too far these days, then too the lead will reach around 450 for a min.

    Cricket, the game of glorious uncertainties has proven me wrong in a 180 degree manner.

  • Shaggy076 on November 22, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    Now with the state of play, I think a 100 sub-continent supporters need to apologise to Australia and the state of the pitch. Its an excellent wicket and for those saying England will be 1/400 dont ever underestimate the Australian bowling. We kept England batting in check in England and now so far this test. England batsman will learn and improve however the Australian bowling should never be underestimated.

  • MinusZero on November 22, 2013, 0:05 GMT

    Anyone else think that Clarke may be considering an early retirement if his back continues to play up. I dont see him playing past 34 or 35. Australia may need a new captaincy candidate sooner rather than later

  • Rowayton on November 22, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    Are there seriously people saying England should not have picked Swann? They have to be kidding. Any bowler is going to take 0-80 sometimes, it's an occupational hazard. As an Aussie, I would be delighted if England left out Swann, but their selectors aren't that dumb. Good day of cricket, Broad bowled well. The strength of this England side is that at least one of them always does well. When Broad has an off day, someone else will stand up.

  • on November 21, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    The crowd wasn't silenced . They gave it o Broad all day, even as he was holding the ball aloft for his 5 for. Not saying it's right or wrong to boo him, just saying they weren't silenced.

  • on November 21, 2013, 23:25 GMT

    @Shan156 - You got it wrong bud. Srinath after 62 tests has marginally better average and had more wickets than Broad had. Make no mistake, Srinath played lion's share of tests on Indian soil and still managed more number of wickets. Broad on the other hand played mostly on seaming tracks. Nothing to take away from Broad, but I'm just trying to mention that there are better bowlers around

  • wellrounded87 on November 21, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    Good fightback by Haddin and Johnson. Dissappointing batting from the top order. 5/6 wickets were poor shots. Watson and Bailey have no place in this side.

    I'm a huge fan of Watson but i am sick and tired of watching him do all the hard work early on, get himself in then throw his wicket away. It always seems to be at the worst of times too. 4 balls before lunch, i mean can it get any worse than that? Had he made it to lunch without losing a wicket England go into lunch behind with their heads down. But for him poking his bat at a wide delivery they went into lunch with their spirits lifted and that showed in the few overs after lunch. Broad was on fire in that spell.

    Have to give credit to Broad he's bowled really well and even though i think he should have walked i don't think he deserves the abuse he's getting. It's good to see he's not letting it get to him

  • wellrounded87 on November 21, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    @Harmony111 How do you figure our bowling has proved you wrong? England didn't get over 400 once in the whole series. We did twice. Considering the depth of Englands batting and the mediocrity of our batting lineup i'd say that shows our bowlers did better than England. Harris was easily the pick of the bowlers with Siddle and Starc playing good backup roles.

    In my opinion the only english bowler who outperformed their Australia counterpart was Graeme Swann. Though Lyon was solid as always.

  • brittop on November 21, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha: How many tests are won by "out of the ordinary bowling"? Wasn't Glenn McGrath's whole career built on accuracy?

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 22:15 GMT

    @ScottStevo on (November 21, 2013, 20:21 GMT) Not often I agree with you but I do on this one. The last Ashes was full of so many twists and turns. In the 1st test Aus looked down and out in both inns before last wicket stands and then looked on the verge of winning before Eng (imo) chanced a review which paid off. I still reckon lunch came at a great time for Eng. Then in the 4th test Aus looked set to win before Broad's spell/Aus collapse. In 4 of the last 5 series there have been twists and turns. Eng would have taken day 1s scorecard at the start of the day but also if you offered that score when Aus had just lost their 6th wicket I think they'd have bitten your hand off. Still very interestingly poised for me

  • riahcmra on November 21, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    Australia should have bowled. England have 2 great opening bowlers and the wicket had lots of moisture. It was always going to be dodgy . If they were after a psychological advantage over England early in the series I would have let Mitchell Johnson loose on them at 150 kph plus ...

  • WeirPicki on November 21, 2013, 21:52 GMT

    Clarke has always struggled with the short ball, even in junior cricket he had a reputation of being fragile against good, short pitched bowling. Nothing has changed.

    Unfortunately this Australian batting line-up is poor and there is nobody else around who is better.

  • chicko1983 on November 21, 2013, 21:46 GMT

    A lot of people here forgetting the age old addage of never judging a pitch or match before before both teams have batted. There was variable bounce and the pitch was definitely quickening. If Aussies bowl before lunch, it could be a tough period for England.

  • xylo on November 21, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    Australia will do well to get Bailey out of the XI. While he belongs to the ODI format, and is a very good captain, he is simply out of place in tests, just like MS Dhoni. Getting him into the test XI will dent his confidence and cause his ODI form to plummet as well. Haven't CA got any first class cricketers that are in screaming form?

  • Cricket_Fan_1234 on November 21, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    I disagree with whoever is saying that England is top here. The fact is aus has almost 300 runs on board n good bowling attack. Don't think it ll be easy to make run against aus in aus. Also, I am an Indian who likes watching good cricket contests...n ashes has its own turns n twists which makes it fun to watch....

  • SherjilIslam on November 21, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    It was a fascinating day's play, test Cricket at it's very best. Got to say Australia should consider themselves lucky to have reached in a position which they are in at the moment. Also if they manage to bat first hour and add say 30+, i believe it's a match on. Australia have a decent bowling attack, and i am really looking forward to see Mitchell Johnson bowl, i have been his critic, but the way he bowled in India was fantastic to watch. At the moment it's 53-47 in favor of England, but you never know in Cricket.Looking forward for Day-II. (From India fan)

  • ScottStevo on November 21, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    @Harmony111, so after a days play, the Ashes are lost and your premonitions all validated? You, Sir, are a genius. I'm surprised you bother to post here as with accuracy like that, you could actually make something of yourself. Why don't you run along and try that then....

  • Nutcutlet on November 21, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    @Sridhar Sampath on (November 21, 2013, 13:13 GMT): good to know that you're Indian & still find the Ashes engaging. I wish, not just for your sake, nor for the sake of the game that we both love so much, that India & Pakistan can play each other in Test matches again, one day. When that day comes, it will be cause for celebration in both countries & the world will have become a better place. It would also be an occasion when all of the rival spectators would need to show some generosity of spirit to honour the game, win, lose or draw. Somehow, I think I can see this being most likely to happen at a neutral venue, in one of the stadiums in the UAE, perhaps. Very best wishes.

  • Cricfever_PM on November 21, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    The 1st day of Ashes belongs to Eng but Gabba luck may favor Aus as it's already gave them slight momentum with Haddin & Mitchi scoring 50s and rescue the team!! Warner got good start but couldn't convert it into Big one!!! Aus may score another 30 to 50 odds runs!!! Overall Eng and Broad ruled the day one!!

  • Harmony111 on November 21, 2013, 19:44 GMT

    In the preview of the prev Ashes, I had said that Aus have a bowling attack that is 'potentially' as good as Eng's & I would repeat this here. But at the same time now it seems that Aus have a batting line up that is 'potentially' as good as Pak's, with all due respects to them. Sadly for Aus, they seem to be proving me right on the latter part and wrong on the former part just about every time. Even their collapses were Pakisque in the prev Ashes.

    The prev Ashes began with the Eng fans hoping for yet another Eng win yet wary of an Aussie resurrection. This Ashes started on the similar note but Day 1 of Test 1 seems to indicate that things are not gonna change much this time too.

    Eng are on course for their 4th successive win unless Martians invade us or unless Warner gets Bradman's soul for a few days. Only Warner can save Aus now.

    Tomorrow we shall see how the Aus bowlers fare. I hope & predict a dull 50 by Cook + a superb 80-100 by KP or Bell.

  • on November 21, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    pretty good bowling from "that Medium pacer" Australia in tatters :)

  • jb633 on November 21, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    @GPVR, Who would have guessed a comment like that eh. It's funny that seeing how many Indian fans despise Ashes cricket there are still so many commenting her, indicating a lot must have watched it.

  • on November 21, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    Well Day 1 is over and the Australian Top 6 struggled to get over 100 runs ... AGAIN ... however their respectability was regained by a brilliant lower order partnership .... AGAIN!!! Some have written that Australia was mugged by reality, I just wish the Australian Team would walk down that dark 'Reality Alley' with a few more players that could put up a fight.

    But the truth is Australia now has almost 300 runs on the board and, as we have seen in the past, Ryno and Lyon are no bunnies. So 320 is still a possibility and these are runs that England have to get. Against Harris, Siddle and Johnson this may not be as easy as people have made it out to be. All three have the ability to deliver incredibly destructive spells.

    However England's position is not that brilliant. They will need to score enough to lead by 150, then bowl Australia out, the possibly score a couple more ..... and the rain will effect the last 2 days Sounds like another great test match!!!

  • Shan156 on November 21, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    @Madan Shivakumar, Broad may be overrated but he is still better than any fast bowler India has produced, sans Kapil Dev.

  • BroadlySpeaking on November 21, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    England look to have missed a trick here. There is still the hint of a contest thanks to Haddin and Johnson. I can't see many more runs being added tomorrow, but England could have been batting now on the strength of the early sessions and that might have just about extracted any fight the Aussies may think they have. England convincingly on top, but not perfect by any means.

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 19:01 GMT

    @GRVJPR at least this test match is a contest

  • on November 21, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    The way the wickets fell atleast four fell to awkward bounce, Australia seem to be unable to handle pace and bounce, Clarke being a good example. Haddin and Johnson escaped getting a good ball rather fighting back or flourishing as some might think. Now the question remains whether the bounce in the wicket is awkward or was it the batsmen. The English response will provide the answer. But seeing Aus at 166 for 6, it seems the top half is beginning to get more and more comfortable in the dressing room than in the middle....

  • Kover_Drive on November 21, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Centuries waiting for Cook and Peitersen on the dead track. Sadly, opening batsmen had to face swings and spins.

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    @JG2704 point taken but I think KP took 3 wickets in the last innings of that match, which indicates something about the pitch. Maybe Swann was left out in the wrong match. I just feel that with Swann's recent injuries, having him playing in conditions like this is a waste, especially when our seamers aren't exactly the best in the world. But if Swann is a necessity why not play Chris Woakes as a batsman, with Finn, Broad and Anderson. Feel that Woakes would provide control required. Oh yeah, we're stuck with Stokes, the bits and pieces player.

    @Cricket_Fan_1234 there is quite a lot being said on that excellent partnership between Johnson and Haddin. They showed good fight and rescued the game for Aus, helping to set it up as it has been.

    Surprised by the lack of Chris Tremlett being mentioned. For me, a very surprising selection and 1 for 50odd isn't great.

  • GRVJPR on November 21, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Boring test match played on flattest track ever. No reverse swing, no spin, no challenge to batsmen. Yet the batsmen got out playing like school kids. I think cricket in India is more exciting with ball spinning from day 1 and test matches getting over in 3 days.

  • CricketChat on November 21, 2013, 18:28 GMT

    I think it is time Warner concentrates his energies on making big scores (30s - 40s might help you keep your place in the team, but doesn't help your team to win) instead of bad mouthing opponents. I truly believe Watson should be considered for shorter formats from now on. He is still stuck on sweet 20s and 30s. Rogers is also not a long term option. CA would be better off going with youth instead of tried and failed options.

  • Cricket_Fan_1234 on November 21, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    One thing I don't see anywhere (sports media articles + fans post on various sites) is the talk about a fantastic partnership Haddin and Mitchell had yesterday. Ok I get it that England did a real good job containing Aussies however don't you think that 100+ run partnership for a 7th wicket is something to be praised or at least talked about???

  • RAMKI2404 on November 21, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    I was waiting for The Ashes to Start and the start was excellent I really enjoyed the battle between the bat and ball on the Day-1. Clearly the domination on the Day1 is by ball. I am supporting England team in this Ashes and wishing them best of luck to win the Ashes Once again on the AUS soil. Long Live test matches I love them.

  • on November 21, 2013, 18:11 GMT

    for the longterm success aus test batng lineupshould be be 1.shon mrsh 2.d varnr 3. find someone alex doolan i reckon 4. clark 5.? 6.watson 7. hadin and if he retires wade or paine

  • on November 21, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    This is a batsmans paradise and i fully expect England to post 400+ but in essence this is what happens when your media decides to attack 2 of our most destructive players...Broad bowled brilliantly on a unresponsive wicket and I think it was helped by the dim Aussies who only think of Broad not walking when countless Aussies not named Adam Gilchrist wouldnt walk, remember Old Trafford when Warner edged Swann to first slip and reviewed it!! If England bowl Australia out for under 350 I think they can go on and build a big lead its definately on the cards

  • arnav.c on November 21, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    I wonder when the aussies are going to blame the BCCI or India for losing the ashes again !!! The plain fact is that is they just cant bat. Aussies were known for attacking batsmanship, but they attacked because they had the skill and technique. The current team just wants to be aggressive without the skill or technique! The image of aussie batsman hanging their bat out for a catch to the slips reminds me of the Indian cricket team before Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly , Laxman and Sehwag.

    C'mon aussies...do something...you are making an average english side look great..show some fighting spirit..Maybe you can ask Dravid to become your batting coach and teach you the art of test match batting..

  • on November 21, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    I think that we have a game on hand. I honestly thought that England would be batting by day one- something the Aussies have prevented from happening, thanks to the tail end. How awesome has Broad been?!? Great bowling display by the poms.

  • on November 21, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Broad has made a great statement, but he is still a cheat. He may be a great bowler but unfortunately he is still a lousy sportsman.

  • Shan156 on November 21, 2013, 17:38 GMT

    @wonderstar1, if our batting lineup is mediocre, I don't even want to hear your thoughts on the Aussie batting lineup. Or, do you think it is on par with the SA or Indian lineup?

    @siltbreeze, I agree. Tremlett seems to have lost the zip that served him very well in the last Ashes down under. Eng. should go with Rankin for the next game. He is younger, faster, and offers a lot more than Tremlett and while Finn is a proven wicket taker, he lacks control and could relieve pressure for the Aussie batsmen.

  • Shan156 on November 21, 2013, 17:34 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster, kind words but Eng, as a test match team, is still some way behind SA.

    @Rohit, how did you come up with the idea that the Aussie bowling is 3 times stronger than England's? Harris is excellent and Siddle is an able workhorse but Johnson can blow hot and cold and when it comes to facing Eng, it is mostly the latter. The Aussie seam attack, at best, is only equal to England's but England's batting is superior to Australia's. Lyon may do better here than Swann but it looks like the pitch is only going to get easier for batting. Atm, it is safe to say that Eng. are in a better position but we won't know till both teams have batted on the pitch.

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    @milepost on (November 21, 2013, 14:57 GMT) Indeed it probably was but wouldn't you prefer to consistently post 300 scores and win than post big scores and end up drawing the games when you score big and then not scoring well in other games and losing them?

    @Nutcutlet on (November 21, 2013, 16:20 GMT) Agreed that he did well but I still don't feel that I've been proven wrong after one day and one spell where he's still only taken one wicket. I don't want to be argumentative as you are one of the most consistent posters on this site but your previous post - re silencing the doubters - makes it sound like he's taken a load of wickets and this spell disproves our doubts.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 21, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    If I had been offered that score at the start of the day I would have gleefully accepted it. I decided that a very good day would be 270-7 so we went a bit better than that. Haddin makes a point of performing in first tests so it was little surprise that he coordinated the rescue plan. It was great to see the top order in disarray so early on and Broad doing the damage to such a chorus of boos. The fact is that no one in their right minds thinks Broad should have walked at Trent Bridge because no Australian has EVER walked except on a couple of rare occasions Gilchrist. Basically the Australians are booing at themselves and Broad with moral high ground just took out five batsmen . His best though was for Clarke- trapped and skinned within a couple of deliveries of finishing lunch,. These days Broad is quite a conscious bowler able to deliver on plans and on a near faultless wicket he delivered a real body blow to Aussie morale.

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    @Englishfan - A bit early in the day to talk about replacing our linchpin of recent years. Warne said you need to field a spinner virtually everywhere in test cricket and esp at grounds which have been baked by the sun. Also spinners often come into their own/are far more effective in the 2nd inns when the pitch may break up etc. The last time we left out Swann was vs SA and in the 1 inns Tahir bowled he took 3 for and Swann is better than Tahir

    @Sridhar Sampath on (November 21, 2013, 13:13 GMT) Nice to have an Indian fan on here to post comments on the game rather than some we've had who have just come on here to say how boring it all is

  • on November 21, 2013, 17:25 GMT

    More of the same from Australia. Poor opening partnership, again. Warner shows he is a good stroke maker but good only for shorter formats as he displays lack of patience and gets out playing one shot too many, again. Watson falls after a start, again. Broad gets Clarke, again. Steve Smith shows exactly why he made a debut as a no.8- he makes a typically ugly 30, with hideous cross batted heaves across the line and shows an absolute lack of awareness of his offstump, again. What more can you expect from a failed leg spinner trying to disguise himself as a specialist batsman? The only thing that was atypical was that Haddin, instead of throwing away his wicket like he generally does in these circumstances- actually contributed to a recovery. Bowlers get the runs, again (Difference- it is johnson instead of Siddle or Pattinson). Whether it is Mickey, Donald, Boofy or Goofy, it is an all too familiar story

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on November 21, 2013, 17:25 GMT

    Chappell: "Australia got mugged by reality". That's nothing. At least when England get mugged we do it ourselves with self-delusion.

  • 5wombats on November 21, 2013, 17:23 GMT

    @Meety. Good to see you mate.

  • cooljack_143 on November 21, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    oh Bailey what have you done, expected more from you!!!!!!!! but yes,its too early to say Eng are on top once the score gets beyond 300 anything is possible.I am looking fro a draw in this test now..Mitch & Haddin batted superbly well counter attacking..

  • SirViv1973 on November 21, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    @Englishfan, Swann did his job well enough. I don't think anyone is expecting him to get the sort of wicket haul he got on the slower dryer surfaces we saw here. His job within the 1st inns of each of the tests matches will be to contain and he did that today. He should get a bit more assistance in the 2nd inns where he should be more of a wicket taking threat. In Regards to Stokes there is no chance of him replacing Swann. I think he is largely in the party for experience & I would be very surprised if he gets a game, other than in Sydney if that proves to be a dead rubber.

  • on November 21, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    Okay people...I have read the comments and I have to say, I'm surprised! Look, we haven't even bowled you guys out yet! You could still eke out a respectable 310-320 score and surprise our batting line up with the likes of Siddle and Johnson. Remember day 1 of the 2010/11 Ashes? First batting side gets a middling 200+ score, and then the third innings of the match reads 500+ for 1 wicket. Anything can happen. This pitch might spring some surprises. By the way, as an England fan I was not expecting Tremlett to get picked, and I'm also not surprised that Graeme Swann is yet to settle.

    On paper, England's batting is strong, but as we saw in the last series, 350 scores might be the norm, so it's not going to be an easy ride.

  • SirViv1973 on November 21, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    @Mitty2, I did not & have never stated that I believe Eng deserved to win the previous ashes series 4 nil(although it did very nearly happen), 3 - 1 would have been a fair reflection. In regards to my previous post it was actually @the big booda who dragged the subject up again and I was merely pointing out that he was stretching it somewhat to say Aus dominated the last 3 tests. As for further debate on what would have happened if it would not have rained, we all have our own opinions & as you say that ship has sailed!

  • 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on November 21, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    it genuinely baffles me to read comments such as "Australia's bowling attack is 2 times stronger than England's".

    based on what exactly? Broad has the most test wickets this year, Anderson the 2nd highest number of test wickets by an English test bowler, Swann is one of top 2/3 spinners in the world at the moment. Tremlett might not be the force he was but he kept things tight today and nipped in with 1 wicket.

    The Australian attack is not far off the England one, but it is not better and certainly not 3 x as good.

    silly comments like this make posters look totally clueless about the game.

  • on November 21, 2013, 16:50 GMT

    I don't know why the fuss over Clarke. He is the most over rated Aussie batsman! One good year (2012) doesn't make him the best. Best bowls get him the most as there is a serious problem with his technique..Never dependable, he only plays the spinners well..Top order is really looking in shambles for Aussies. Where is the talent please? Get some young technically strong batsmen in & remove Smith, Bailey. I seriously doubt if Rogers too can thrive under home conditions, good in Eng but not sure here...

  • Cpt.Meanster on November 21, 2013, 16:31 GMT

    Okay guys.. I watched the highlights reel and I was DISAPPOINTED. Disappointed at the state of Aussie test batting, and disappointed at the Aussie crowd booing an incredible Stuart Broad. What England have shown here is that they are a SUPREME test match team, equalled only by SA. When will Australia learn ? It seems they haven't done anything to improve in terms of test cricket temperament. Some people here incorrectly blame T20 cricket for some of the Australian batsmen's downfall. That's ridiculous because T20s are played far and few between. The international calendar is mostly filled with ODis and tests for the most part. Add to that, some of these guys also played Shield cricket so there are no excuses. Broad was magnificent and England were brilliant with their fielding, especially their slip catching. However, the match isn't over by any means. I feel Australia can bowl equally well on this pitch. By the end of tomorrow, we will know who is winning this test match.

  • Nutcutlet on November 21, 2013, 16:20 GMT

    @JG2704 (November 21, 2013, 10:29 GMT). I think that there are different ways of looking at the Bowling of CT. I see that his figures are economical (which you concede); but you see only the one wicket. I think it really doesn't matter whether he got one, or two or even none. In team terms he did his job splendidly, bowling in a Bresnan mode, allowing SB, & to a lesser extent JA, to bowl more attacking lengths. By keeping the lid on the scoring, England was never relinquished cruise control throughout the day & all four bowlers dove-tailed in the manner which would have had Saker & Flower purring in the shade! Cook had no qualms whatsoever over any of them & the rotation policy on a stonking hot day worked like a well- oiled piston. And this is precisely why Tremlett was picked. He's reliable, a thorough professional who knows his role & fulfils it because he's temperamentally sound & knows the business of medium quick bowling. Finn is iffy & Rankin's still learning the trade. BW.

  • wonderstar1 on November 21, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    @FFL You talk as if you have won the match? just wait and see how Johnson and Lyon will blow your mediocre batting lineup.

  • siltbreeze on November 21, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    @whoster - Tremlett's selection is still highly questionable. He bowled with reasonable control, but that's the very least you should expect from a seamer struggling to hit 80mph. The fact is, he lacked any zip or real threat, and his one delivery that did something took a wicket. His pace consistently slowed through the course of an over, and he looked pretty spent at the end of play. England made a conservative decision and picked him for control - and seemingly in the hope that he'd magically rediscover his form of three years ago - but I refuse to believe that we don't have a better third seam option than that and I worry that it puts too much onus on Jimmy and Broad to take all the wickets when Swann's not getting much turn.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    @Rohit.., both bowling attacks are about equal, Aus have a slight edge if watson can turn his arm over for a few overs. but Johnson can be very erratic to paraphrase Forrest Gump : hes like a box of chololates, you know know what you're getting until he bowls.

    Siddle and Harris are on par with Broad and Anderson, the latter two may just edge t, Swann sohuld be better than Lyon, though I wouldnt want to face Lyon on a day 4/5 wicket if its crumbling.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 21, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    Chappell: "Australia got mugged by reality". I think a few of their fans have been mugged by reality too, just look at the absences today. Reminicent of the last Ashes in Oz already.

  • on November 21, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    I feel the those administering this great game the world over have made a huge mistake by devising short cuts and introducing changes too many and too often for the sake of popularity.Any international sport like football,hockey,tennis etc,have retained the basic character irrespctive of who watches or who does'nt.Can we expect a football match of shorter version say twenty minutes?It all started with the decline of the westIndies cricket and similar early signs of decay of Australian cricket is visible.The process is almost irreversible as in the case of westIndies.Too much cricket,too many changes in formats and tempering with basic rules have left the game to be a hackneyed extravaganza.Save cricket.

  • on November 21, 2013, 15:51 GMT

    I just wanted to say, Johnson played Swann very well, it was very good to see. Sure, Swann wasn't getting the grip, the turn because it's a first day flat pitch, but lefties note how he picked the length, anything full driven, length defended, short punched, all without leaving crease, if you don't want to leave crease - play how he did. A lot of other batsman are on back foot to full balls to swann, especially Khawaja and Hughes and countless others. Good knock from Johnson, looked good.

  • Rohit... on November 21, 2013, 15:39 GMT

    I still maintain that it is too early to say that England is on top... If Broad can take 5, think what impact will Johnson, Siddle & Harris will have on the ground... I agree that English batsmen won't give their wickets that easily as the Australians did... But Australian bowling is 3 times stronger than England's... The new ball will certainly be the one to decide the match.

  • on November 21, 2013, 15:37 GMT

    Somehow, Clarke didn't look fit mentally or physically since yesterday's presser! If he needs rest from cricket for a while, he should be rested. He is arguably the MVP of the current Australian team. And, young enough, NOT to be cast aside. Protect him.

  • on November 21, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    if australia can get around 350 and their bowlers can get some quick wickets they might have a chance

  • milepost on November 21, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    I am absolutely convinced that Trainstationer and Front-Foot-Lunge are the same person! An innings victory? Anyone remember the last time England went past 400? Well, it was a long time ago.

  • whoster on November 21, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    Haddin and Johnson both played well to get the score toward respectability, but they also showed what a good batting wicket it was. The ball hardly did anything in the air or off the wicket all day, and some of the dismissals - especially of Rogers, Watson and Clarke were down to very poor batting.

    England kept to a disciplined line-and-length, built-up pressure, and allowed the batsmen to get themselves out. Broad was superb all day and bowled with great rhythm. Particularly pleased to see Tremlett have a good day. There's no doubt he's lost a yard or two of pace, but his job was to keep an end quiet, and he did well. Certainly hard to see those who criticized his selection as still having an argument.

    England will be much the happier of the teams, but if Harris, Siddle and Johnson all bowl well tomorrow, the game could be very much alive. Australia should be very worried about their batting, though.

  • DJAbacus on November 21, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Well, England hit the ground running (for once) with some solid bowling and excellent fielding.

    Australia looked nervous (as expected batting first). Particularly interesting was Watson's innings. In an attempt to fix his 'Mr LBW' title, he seemed very restricted and made little impact on the innings. Rogers and Bailey looked like walking wickets. Warner played well but will always give you a chance to get him out. Clarke got a fine delivery to get him out. Haddin and Johnson showing what can be done if you 'get in' on this pitch.

    I breathed a sigh of relief when we lost the toss. You can't win a Test Match on day one but you can lose it and Australia almost did that. Saying that, to get 20 wickets on this pitch is going to be hard and it would be a tremendous performance to win at Brisbane batting second.

    Plan to get them out for under 300 and then aim for 500+. Easier said than done of course but great first day for England none the less. :-)

  • milepost on November 21, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    Australia don't rely on Clarke any more than England do on Bell. It just happened for a couple of series. Australia are hardly out of the game. One days cricket, that's all. You could easily ask why can't England finish an innings off? Is it bad luck, poor captaincy, good batting or poor bowling? It's cricket so probably an incalculable mix of them all.

  • PrasPunter on November 21, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    @ToneMalone , couple of years for Clarke ? Way way too long. I wont be surprised if he calls it after WC 2015 in an year's time. Time for Aus to look elsewhere for captaincy.

  • vvbr on November 21, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    England will quickly wrap the last two and lose just couple for the entire day tomorrow and bat through day 3. Day 4 Australia will crumble and Day 5 either innings defeat to Australia or England will chase it down or Rain pouring down resulting in a Draw. End result possibilities: Australia is going to lose this match, at the max a draw for them.

  • Samdanh on November 21, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    It was good beginning to the Ashes. Good bowling; poor Test match batting, good rear guard recovery from Haddin and Johnson. Aus is still not out of the woods. The edge will depend on how long Aus can build their first innings; and how well Aus bowlers can bowl. Much will depend on how consistent and wicket to wicket Siddle and Johnson can bowl as they can be erratic and expensive on their bad days. Expect Ryan Harris and Lyon to be effective. Day 2 and 3 have always produced good batting in Gabba. So it is going to be an uphill task for Aus if Aus were to hold Eng below or on par a score that they happen to end with in their first innings. But it is good watching as long as both sides put up a good fight right through the match

  • woody3 on November 21, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    Long way to go yet, Englands batting can be fragile and Aussie bowlers are penetrative. But as in the last series in England the Aussie lower order is proving to have more fight than the top 5. However, the only way the Aussies are sending Broad home in tears is in laughter at their batsmen.

  • Hammond on November 21, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    @USA_Res- the best post I have read on cricinfo for years. God bless you!

  • on November 21, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    Looks like another innings win down under. It's becoming monotonous.

  • Yevghenny on November 21, 2013, 13:24 GMT

    there is still an awful lot of cricket to go, it's going to get easier to bat as time goes on, but it will be interesting to see what day 4/5 is like. A lead of 100 runs going into 2nd innings could prove decisive

  • on November 21, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    I am an Indian cricket fan but am a great fan of The Ashes. The only thing that can rival this is an India-Pak Test Series (4-5 Tests) but that doesn't look like a possibility anymore. Coming to the day's play at the Gabba, Eng obviously took the day's honours but will not rule out an Aussie comeback tomorrow. And yes, the commentary on TV is far better than what was dished out in India these last few weeks. Really hoping that this series will be well-fought.

  • on November 21, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    An excellent start to the Test series from an English perspective, and a big thanks to the Courier-Mail for providing the motivation. Haddin once again proved to be the most diligent of the Australian batsmen, and is becoming a real nuisance once the top order is broken and dismissed. If England can bowl out Australia for under 300, and bat well themselves, the formidable home record at the Gabba could be under threat.

  • on November 21, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    A lot depends on Johnson. If he can bowl well, the Aussies will have a pretty decent attack and should be able to keep the pressure up for the whole day.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    @Meety, thanks, I was listening to TMS overnight on the radio and there was a lot of talk from the commentators about this being a freshly laid track, and this being the first game played on it since it was relaid.

    From an australian Perspective I think Lyon will prove his worth on a Day 4/5 track especially if theres a tempting chase involved, assuming England dont bat long and post 500+, which I'm skeptical off them doing especially with Harris, Siddle and MJ apparently in form.

  • grizzle on November 21, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Still need to watch England bat, but just looking at the way the Aussie top order shipped their wickets, their chances look bleak! Also, is Clarke now officially Broad's bunny! Over in England, he was undone by a couple of jaffas, but today was just a plain mistake.

  • Mitty2 on November 21, 2013, 12:50 GMT

    @Meety, great to see you back! If rain holds back and the pitch indeed does deteriorate I'm really excited to see how Lyon goes especially in the last innings (if there is one). Very happy he was selected and the contest between him and KP is exciting. With his excellent record at the Gabba (average of 24 and the third highest ever wicket taker for an off spinner at the gabba) and the current dire situation he needs to put in a big one. Everyone's practically belittling him as a good bloke and serviceable, but he's much more than that I reckon.

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 12:50 GMT

    @RU4Real point taken but I reckon that in these conditions an attack of Anderson Broad Finn Rankin and KP would win more matches than not. Or replace Rankin and a batsman with Woakes and Swann. Ashame Stokes is hear over Woakes.

    Why do so many of both sets of fans think the series is already over. Weve had 1 day! Aus are much better bowlers than us even if our bats are better.

  • Englishmanabroad on November 21, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    -> Madan Shivakumar. Isnt it astonishing that the decline of the Ashes Series apparently coincided with Australia starting to lose! I guess that it can't be a "good" series unless Australia wins. The real problem is that England is one of the few teams that still plays TEST cricket. You know, 5 days, 2 innings each. The decline of international test cricket is absolutely due to the rise in popularity of limited overs cricket. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of cricket in all formats, but T20 Cricket is not Test Cricket, and T20 batsmen, (in general), are not Test Batsman. It seems to me that what critics really want is a 5-day T20. Thats like asking a 100m sprinter to sprint a Marathon. Two completely different mind sets, and personally I am immensely grateful for that.

  • Mitty2 on November 21, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    And @sirviv1973, they wouldn't have even been in the game if it weren't for two declarations. God I'm sick of having to repeat myself. As if some really think that Eng were deserving of 4-0.

    A very very good day for Eng and full credit to them. Unfortunately I was sitting an exam at the time during lunch and after I finished I checked the scores to see a disgraceful 6-150 odd so I missed Broad's spell, but from what I did see his wickets were largely self-caused, apart from Clarke's and Johnson's (there's a case for Rogers but he played it really poorly). Watson's dismissal was the worst considering that lunch was three balls away and Warner's was pretty average considering how much of a pie that ball was. Hopefully the old adage of not judging a pitch until the two sides have batted comes into play - but obviously it hasn't for many.

    Unfortunately the only hope is an MJ and Rhino special - with some assistance from the bloke with a v. good record here (Lyon) - or rain.

  • cloudmess on November 21, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    Have still to see when this great Australian side we've been hearing about for the last few months (who are much better, much more positive than England etc)are going to show up - though don't forget England were bowled out relatively cheaply in 1st innings of last Brisbane test, and Australia took a big 1st innings lead...

  • disorientated on November 21, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    English Fan here! Please before we call it 1:0 to England can I just remind everyone that we still have to bat and Australia do know how to play this game!

  • on November 21, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Great start to the ashes. what a response from stuart broad ! shows how mentally strong he is. but equally a fitting rare guard action from haddin & johnson. exciting series to unfold. On the closing note, some of the comments r getting personal. lets not forget sports knows no boundary or nation. lets appreciate good cricket irrespective of where its played.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on November 21, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @Englishfan (post on November 21, 2013, 11:09 GMT): Must have a specialist spinner in tests in my opinion. Taking wickets is not the be-all-and-end-all in cricket - so long as the TEAM can muster 20 wickets to win the game. This will most likely be a very quiet, containing series for spinners - but that containing pressure at one end is just as vital as wicket-takers in my opinion. Swann (if fit) should be there in every game, regardless of whether he's amongst the wickets or not. Must keep that economy down though... Very character-building series for Swann me thinks.

  • wonderstar1 on November 21, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung Nobody really cares whether you saw teh test match or not. But there were many poms commenting and for sure you were one of them ridiculing India at every cost. so why did you even comment if you are not interested? If you need proof, I can give you the link. you got it.

  • on November 21, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    The most boring test series of 2013.. Aussies will crumble again and Poms will feel they are world beaters(It's a myth actually).. Broad bowled well to fake batsmen..

  • Lmaotsetung on November 21, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    ok Indian fans we get it, you are jealous, you wished your stadium would filled up every test match, you wished there would be more people talking about that circus of a joke series put together at the expense of SA (didn't care, didn't follow a single ball, didn't bother commenting). You guys must really not care to come in here every chance you get to say the same thing over and over again.

  • on November 21, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    reminds me of the 2010 ashes opening day. similar sorts of score but poms overturned it to a successful ashes tour. will history repeat and aussies do same and come victorius. hoping for it.....

  • din7 on November 21, 2013, 11:57 GMT

    well what to say another similiar story! where to start? lets start with disgustin of them all watson..what on earth plays that poke just 3 balls before lunch? as i siad earler he isnt a no3 and will never be...he's the main culprit for the slide..had aus were 72 for till lunch things would have been different, but if ur no3 plays like this what can u say more? bailey? i did wanted hin to be selected but only if he proves it in domestic shield fixtures and not on basis of our highways where even r jadeja scores triple tons he's gonna fail again and again...he isnt test material at all...they shld better had lynn, doolan, khawaja(despite he has failed) has best technique among all, the aussie team management not keen on workin on his mental aspect...so again what we left with is hope on this good battin track, can aussie get this eng team out for around 250? well!

  • Meety on November 21, 2013, 11:53 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding on (November 21, 2013, 7:58 GMT) - I think it will be a belter for 3 days - then break up. This has been a much more typical SE QLD summer, lot more heat - so the pitch will break up. There was enuff in the pitch to keep the bowlers interested (& they bowled really well - although a lot of crud balls got wickets!). I think there will be enuff to keep the pacers interested thru out the match - but if you get your eye in - there are plenty of runs (ala Haddin). Swann will be dangerous (IMO) on Days 4 & 5! @Jared Hanson - Oz fought back from being 6/130 - thats not enuff of a contest???? I would wait & see Englands innings b4 giving up!

  • SirViv1973 on November 21, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    @the big budda, re the last 3 tests in eng, aus were clearly the better team in Manchester but they certainly didn't dominate at Durham which was a fairly even affair until eng pulled away just before the line & as for the oval eng would have won that one as well if not for the light!

  • heathrf1974 on November 21, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    Great day by England and great day for Broad. He's starting to lead the English attack

  • Rajesh.Kumar on November 21, 2013, 11:47 GMT

    I feel sorry for the Australian bowlers. Not only do they have to take wickets, they also have to score bulk of the runs. Too bad that this time around almost centurions Mitch Stark and Ashton Agar are not in the team. It appears as though that top order Aus batters have been on an extended holiday ever since their India tour...

  • shoarthing on November 21, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    Johnson, after a nice slog against the old ball, might be confident enough to bowl a stump-ish line at pace, & Haddin again showed grit.

  • TheBigBoodha on November 21, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Yeah, it was a very disappointing batting display by the AUS top order. They just made it easy for England. I mean the bowlers didn't even have to try, basically. Most of the bowling was accurate, but certainly nothing particularly out of the ordinary.

    There's a bit in the wicket, so still some chance for AUS. But they will have to bowl and field really well. Harris' back must be feeling very sore already, watching this mob bat.

    It is still early days yet. At least Haddin and Johnson turned things around a bit. Up till that point it was the worst batting display on these shores for years, by the home team. I still think our batsmen will get plenty of runs this series. Remember, AUS dominated most of the final three tests of the last series. People forget quickly, and only remember the 3-0 final scoreline.

  • on November 21, 2013, 11:24 GMT

    If Australia adds more 27 runs then they would have psychological advantage on English team. We are supporting Aussies in this rough patch.

  • Shaggy076 on November 21, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    Haven't seen much of the play but seen a few if the dismissals obviously not the best start for the Aussies, some sift dismissals particularly Rogers, Warner, Watson and Clarke but great fightback from Johnson and Haddon. Remember this English line up only got over 300 in one first innings in Englandvso its still game on. Push toward350 and stick to the bowling plans and still a good chance. As much as I do think their was some disapointment with the batting its no time for knee jerk reactions and we have to stick with this lot at least for the next couple of games.

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 21, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    As I said before, Faulkner should have played, whether it was at the expense of Bailey or Lyon. There is no way he would have got less than the 3 runs that Bailey scored, and he would have helped Australia be able to defend whatever target they set. Shameful decision to make such a talented and in-form player sit on the sidelines. That being said, there was more poor batting on show than good. While Warner looked great to start with, he soon found himself in two minds and got himself out. Smith batted well but got unlucky, and it was really only Haddin and Johnson that looked the goods. A bit shameful that our numbers 7 and 8 were our two best batsmen! Rogers, Watson, Clarke and Bailey - shame, shame, shame. You 4 let Australia down today. Australia are still a chance but at the moment they are losing and they will have to do a lot better for the rest of the test if they want to win it. England on top for now. And well done to Broad for bowling so well. Clearly the pick of the bowlers.

  • on November 21, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Geez, the way these comments are you would think Aus had been bundled out for 22 and are currently chasing 500 after the first day's play. 278 thus far - below par but not terrible, there's potential for more to be added, they still need to be chased and there's another innings to come. If Harris or Johnson make like Broad the game will turn into an absolute beauty.

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    Swann was ineffective. I wonder if we get another pitch like this, could Stokes come in for a batsman to provide more bowling options or drop Swann for Finn/Rankin? Can't see us being brave enough and I think Stokes is a bits and pieces player. Would have preferred Woakes as I've said before. He certainly can bat and his bowling, although not the most threatening, would provide the control to allow the punt of picking Finn, who I believe takes wickets.

  • Biggus on November 21, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    @sarathvalsalan:-Yes, our team is but a shadow of the side we fielded in the 1990-2000s period, but you know what, we've been up and down many, many times in the 136 years that we've been playing test cricket. We've been the best a number of times, and we've fallen from that height a number of times as well. Your team has only recently gone from being easybeats to being relatively competitive, strong at home but hopeless everywhere else, and has never been considered the unchallenged best in the world at test cricket. When you've been as good as we've been over as long a period you'll come to understand that ups and downs are a part of the game, and low periods are not some irreversible tragedy but part of competing with the best the rest of the world has to offer. No team has risen to the top never to fall from that exalted position, and Australia has never been weak for long. Don't worry, one day you may even win a test series down here.

  • ScottStevo on November 21, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    @jb633, Generally these are the youngsters who've only ever known Aus to be all conquering. The rest of us remember the dark days in the 80s and the hidings we used to cop at the hands of the Windies (mind you, who didn't!). Also, I think it's far fetched to say we're up against it in sport in general. Don't get me wrong, I'm disappointed with the Aus batting display and I think there were a few soft dismissals, (Watson, Rogers, Warner and to some extent Clarke) but Eng, especially Broad, bowled quite well today. I think there are runs on this wicket, but I also think there's something in it for the bowlers. Aus bowlers will need to do very well tomorrow to keep this match anywhere near even keeled. that said, I recall an Eng side only managing a 200 odd score on day 1 at the gabba and finishing the second innings 500 odd for 1. So, it's way too early to say how this may go...but Eng certainly are doing the front running at present.

  • glance_to_leg on November 21, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    Lovely to see Broad bowling so well. I am not a huge fan, but given the bad grace of the GABBA crowd, a wonderful response. Good to see Tremlett doing reasonably too. But before England fans start crowing too much, I would point out that MJ seems to be in confident mood, and has been bowling with genuine pace. Wouldn't surprise me to see England's top five gone within 20 overs, with 50 or 60 on the board. Hope I am wrong.

  • Redbackfan on November 21, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    We are probably going to get spanked again well done selectors. Shane Watson is one of the best 50 and 20 over cricket players but he is NOT a test player!!! No way should he be in the top 6 and he cant bowl enough overs to be picked as a bowler. I like Rogers but age is against him, Bailey like Watson good at short form but not a test player hope he proves me wrong. Johnson good innings but we need wickets Mitch so please don't spray em. Selectors simple pick 6 batsmen 1 keeper and 4 bowlers thats it! No all rounders! Pick a team on guys who deserve it and stick with them for 12 months Rogers deserve a go but he's to old now. Clark bats best and is most comfortable at no:5 so leave him there. Hartley deserves a go with consistent shield performances though Haddin has done well of late. My test team 1:Warner, 2:Hughes, 3:Doolan/Lynn/Cosgrove, 4:Doolan/Lynn/Cosgrove, 5:Clark, 6:Smith, 7:Hartley/Paine, 8:Pattinson (when fit), 9:Harris, 10:Siddle, 11:Lyon

  • 5wombats on November 21, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    Yes - good from England. But I don't know what's worse - jet lag or watching Australia's batting implode yet again. Sure - staying up all night watching The Ashes may not be the right thing to do when jet lagged - but I'm glad I did. I didn't see anything I didn't expect except in one major regard; didn't really expect to see Lurch in the England side. The rest was fairly predictable; I did say on here a few days ago that Broad was in the groove and likely to reek havoc - well - he's done that today. But Aus have not helped themselves on what looks like a fairly benign pitch. Won the toss too, so no excuses. Aus batting in 2010/11 was stronger on paper (Ponting, Hussey, Katich) than this current lot and still lost badly, so I can't see this going well for Australia in terms of batting. On the other hand, all of Englands batsmen are in the runs, but as we know - Englands batting is capable of letting its bowlers down. It'll be a lot clearer in 24 hours time. So will my jet lag!

  • Jaffa79 on November 21, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Good days work from England! You'd take that. It does all depend on how we bat but a good start to the series and England are notoriously slow starters.I was really impressed by Tremlett! I see why we picked him (I was skeptical!) He was very accurate and bowled a heavy ball with alarming lift. Pace might be slightly down (although not down to the medium pace that some predicted) but he did the job you want from your 3rd seamer. Broad too rose above the juvenile pantomime booing to prove how good he really is. Hitting Clarke for fun, just like the last series. Eng need to get in and bat big and then hope the weekend rain juices the pitch up and makes it swing around for Jimmy and the boys. Massive session or two for Australia tomorrow. If MJ and the rest don't make inroads, I'd say England will have struck a psychological hammer blow and all of the hubris and bluster from the Aussie fans and press will soon disappear.

  • ScottStevo on November 21, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    Good day for Eng, well bowled Broad. Sad to see a few poor dismissals - especially from each of the top 4 bats - they were all a little soft, but just reward for some tidy bowling from Broad. A long way to go yet and if memory serves me, Eng only made 200 odd in their first innings in 10/11, so it's not all doom and gloom for the Aus boys yet (I hope)! Eng have drawn first blood, let's see if Aus can respond...

  • Hippopotamousse on November 21, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    Well done to the Aussie nation (Englands 12th man) for winding up Stuart Broad enough to produce a great bowling performance . More of the same please when K.P. comes out to bat !

  • on November 21, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    george bailey is not a test batsman. one day and t20 form does not correlate with form against the red ball. he averages under 38 in shield cricket, and doesnt bowl. not worth a spot in the team

  • sarathvalsalan on November 21, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    Aussies are losing it. The crown tried to cheer them up with anti board banners and booing, but it is of no use. Every team has its era and Aussie era is over.. No batsman, Bowler in the team and no match for SA or England....

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 10:29 GMT

    @Englishfan - Totally agree and while the pitch is supposed to be a 400+ job , the runs still have to be scored and Aus have a very decent bowling attack and going from 132-6 to finish the day 273-8 , if I was Australian I'd not feel so bad. I wonder if there is too much expectation in Australia too? Australia finished the series well - doing well in the last 3 tests - but if there's one thing cricket followers should realise is that in the last series there were so many twists and turns and if Australia made one or 2 periods of ascendancy last slightly longer they could have closed the gap.

    @Nutcutlet - Tremlett did well keeping the RR in check and I was pleased he dealt with his workload which was one of me worries but 1-51 (as it stands - even on a decent batting track) after just 1 day of cricket hardly proves the doubters wrong.

  • Bonehead_maz on November 21, 2013, 10:23 GMT

    Thought England were very tight. Jimmy maybe a touch short, Broad right on the money, Tremlett serviceable, Swann miserly, fielding good. Thought we (Aust) were way too loose. Some wickets were it just didn't need to be played. Excellent innings by Haddin and nice ball striking by Johnson (if only he could hit a gap he'd be something as a batsman sometimes). The wicket will quicken now, yet apparently has several divots. Interesting match and I'm nowhere near conceding yet :)

  • jb633 on November 21, 2013, 10:19 GMT

    It's funny reading some of the Aussie comments with fans saying they are giving up on their side. It is easy to support when your winning and you whipped everyone for 20 years and expected them to be gracious in defeat whilst you gloated at their downfall. Now the Aussies are up against it, (sport in general) and loads of you don't want to know. I can think of a few words to describe that behaviour but wont go into that on here. I must say I was impressed with England's seamers today but dissappointed with the wicket. I am not having a dig at the Aussie groundsman because the wickets in our summer were boring as hell but I want to see some grass on the wickets. As a neutral fan I think the only pitches that truly favour seamers now are in SA. England and Aus have become flat in general and the less said about any wicket/highway in New Zeland the better. England bowled very disciplined lines today and I would have snapped your hand off to have 8 in the bag at the start of play.

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on November 21, 2013, 10:11 GMT

    This is what happens when you have the most amazing, magnificent and unbelievable bowling in the history of the universe up against a coach making up punchlines. England will make several hundred billion in their first innings and bowl the Aussies out for 2 in their second innings.

    It is really great living in quite a different reality and making embarassing posts.

  • SrinivasPachari on November 21, 2013, 10:10 GMT

    Now the English fans have one more responsibility other than winning the Ashes, preserving the sanctity of it. LOL. But the truth is, any batsman who has played IPL, has not fared. I am very worried about Clarke and Watson than any other batsmen in the team. It does not look to be an enticing series really (absolutely nothing against England players/fans at all).

    But like everyone said, it is early days.

  • OneEyedAussie on November 21, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    The sad thing for me is that it was all so predictable. Warner - out to an overly ambitious off side shot. Watson - out a few minutes either side of a break in play. Clarke - out to a short ball. Smith - nicking outside off. I just cannot believe that these batsmen are getting dismissed over and over again in identical manner but cannot correct these problems. It's like watching the same highlights reel of dismissals over and over. Horrifying.

    As for the score, looking at the pitch I think 350 is par. Fingers crossed for a Haddin century tomorrow to get us there. I would be surprised if England make anything less than 400 in their first innings.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 21, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Broad and Johnson, both are confidence players, both are maligned cricketers, both are in line for man of the match, if Broad gets runs and Johnson gets wickets it puts egg on plenty of faces on two continents for both players. @ Victor Freeman on (November 21, 2013, 9:30 GMT) whats not mickeys fault is they got back to 270 instead of an unhappy all out 150.

  • on November 21, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Australian top order collapses ..... saved by bowlers with the bat.

    All the talk about a new team and new atmosphere .... but the same result.

    I do hope that Ryno and Lyon help put on a few tomorrow. They have shown they have the capacity (West Indies Tour).

  • on November 21, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Looking like an innings defeat for the Aussies, yet again.This is going to be the most one-sided Ashes series of all time.

  • Bogan_asfuhh on November 21, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    Doolan is a proven red-ball competitior, Bailey isn't. Bailey was picked on the basis of limited overs cricket which doesn't prepare you for copious amounts of time at the crease, especially when they were played on flat-tracks and tiny grounds in India. Wish him all the best but he needs to prove himself in the Shield comp. like Doolan did.

  • Yevghenny on November 21, 2013, 10:03 GMT

    the reason test cricket's being criticised this morning is the aussies would rather label the whole of test cricket as poor than just keep it to themselves

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha on (November 21, 2013, 3:43 GMT) It's the officials who change the ball and any other side (batting or bowling) would do similar if they were unhappy with the condition of the ball and if the officials think it's unfounded they would not change the ball. It takes some doing but I think this is possibly the lamest of all your whinges on cricinfo

  • Haleos on November 21, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    Well done England. The series is yours to loose. win 5-0. Another bus ride waiting here in London

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Looks-Silly-Now on November 21, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    Interesting to see today's 2 best players (Broad & Haddin) were guys who both had a point to prove. Broad with the booing Australian crowd and Haddin who was left out last summer thanks to Mickey Mouse (Arthur). To Australian fans, don't despair. As someone who enjoyed watching all 8 Ashes series thrashings in a row for Australia over England and then the 5-0 drubbing in 06/7 all I can say is that all empires crumble. That's the cycle of cricket aswell as in life. It happened to the West Indies, it's happened to our team. The same will happen to England and South Africa someday, just remember that. Knee-jerk reactions such as sacking so-and-so and kicking out players who let you down is only a band-aid solution and will put even more pressure on whoever else they bring in. An empire takes years to build, have patience. Let the English supporters have their joy for they suffered alot in the past when their team was the joke of world cricket. It's their time to bask in the glory now.

  • xtrafalgarx on November 21, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @Jason Bray: Well said, if England win the ashes, it would go down in history as the fourth in a row, but it's not misleading because not much time has passed, therefore the teams havn't developed or changed much, it's just the same thing just two months apart on a different continent.

  • SrinivasPachari on November 21, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    In Australian batting line up's defence, what did you expect would change in three months? After the 5 test series, Australia did not play any test matches and this one was like watching the 6th test match of the previous Ashes. Teams should be given atleast 18 months to recuperate from a 5 test series. If the previous series in England was not boring, this will definitely be. On the other hand if you are an English fan/supporter, you are definitely in for a treat.

  • Dr.murdoch on November 21, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    @sultan2007, your critique of smith is beyond harsh. At no point in this innings, the current shield season and a lot of the previous ashes series did, smith looked troubled by the bowling. For me he played very well today especially coming in with not too many runs on the board. He got out to a genuinely good ball. Apart from that, broad getting clarke out 6/8 times is not looking promising for the rest of the series.

  • johnnycash on November 21, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    Not a bad day to start the series. Broad was superb. As was Haddin and Johnson. I'm not sure this pitch is as flat as everyone is saying, and will definately quicken up tomorrow. Going to the next two days so looking forward to some hard cricket. Australia just needs to take their catches and we are in for a cracker of a game. 450+? good luck with that England.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 21, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    So, what Australia have to do to win a test match at least at home? Not even a Fast pitch will help them as opponent has better bowlers.lol.

  • tuffersmagic on November 21, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    @SamRoy - agree, especially with regard to bowling attacks round the world nowadays. But you have to remember that pitches were more helpful then, and standards are all relative to the era in question. Techniques / coaching / fitness levels / scientific advances have meant that overall cricketing standards have actually improved (believe it or not) since then, bar the West Indies). Fielding is a good example of this. Regarding last night didn't watch any of it - was fast asleep. And by the looks of it it's a re-run of the last ashes, with the Aussie top order showing a familiar lack of resolve against some good, but not great, bowling.

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    Dont get why there are so many critics of Test and Ashes cricket. Test cricket is the most exciting form- you can be completely dominant and still not win. Who can forget Cardiff 2009? Ashes is always an exciting series. Even when we lost 5-0 many of us kept waking up because Ashes series are so special. 2005 and 2009were competitive series. The recent series had some very exciting moments. This series will be close- don't read too much into 1 day of cricket.

  • AnthonyMD on November 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    Thanks for the response mahjut, Yes I was referring to the Australian talent pool, and I fail to see how I am suffering from 'retrospective distortion' as you so eloquently suggest I am. Can you honestly say the current Australian side is laden with world class talent, I understand it is wrong to compare eras, but in all honesty this Australian team is just going through the motions at best.

  • JG2704 on November 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    Well I wouldn't say Australia's challenge is undermined at this stage.In fact I'm not 100% sure if England will be the happier side and unless a side has totally dominated with the bat or ball I don't like to say who's on top until both sides have batted. On a batting friendly pitch Eng would probably take the score as it is after losing the toss but after having Aus 6 down for 132 273-8 doesn't look as good and Aus may have some momentum to take into their inns. Well played Haddin/Johnson and superb from Broad who answered the boo boys in the best way. Also (although I still don't agree with the selection) good to see Tremlett doing the job they had him in the side for. Early days but one of my fears was him being able to deal with a workload which he has done Could be another series of twists and turns. Eng need to wrap up the inns quickly tomorrow.Significantly less than 300 and they'll feel they're on top , significantly more than 300 and maybe they'll have doubts

  • Yevghenny on November 21, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    What a first day for England. When the ball loses its hardness after 40 overs things seem to get a lot easier to bat, so early wickets are going to be crucial throughout this series

  • Stevros3 on November 21, 2013, 9:38 GMT

    Love the Fact Stuart Broad went to the press conference with a copy of the 'Courier Mail' (the newspaper that refuses to name him). Now please keep winding Broad up he's not like MJ who crumbled he's doing the opposite.

    Also it's quite amusing how often the Courier Mail wikipedia page is mentioning Stuart Broad this morning...

  • Jeremy303 on November 21, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    Australia needs to bolster their batting line up: Lyon is tight, but SOK out bowled him in Shield and he can score some handy runs when needed (seems like a regular thing for the OZ XI). I expect Rogers to retire at the end of this series or for the South Africa one that will follow. MARK COSGROVE should already be in the top order!

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    being the Bowler with No Name, you would have thought they could play an Enrico Morricone theme as Broad walked off the pitch at the end of the day, all he needed was a poncho, cheroot and stetson and the image would be complete.

  • on November 21, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    It's Mickey Arthur's fault.

  • milepost on November 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    Well I for one touted Broad as being in his best form so not time for my foot in mouth yet! Good comeback by the Aussies, at least they aren't out of it. Wasn't much from the other bowlers apart from runs. England didn't pass 400 in their last 10 attempts so let's see what happens! I'm just glad it's started and to see how the Aussies respond will the ball. That is if England can clean up the tail, something they are not well known for.

  • AussieSam on November 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    @VivGilchrist: agreed mate. Watson's never been my fav player but i dont think he can win with some people at this point unless he suddenly starts scoring 200 every game. If he scores a hundred its too little too late, a 50 then he doesnt make enough big scores and anything less then he's the worst batsman in the country. Some people would just rather whinge about selections than enjoy the cricket and support their side.

    All in all it was a good start to the series. Nice to see broad respond well to the aussie scorn. We might not like him but he'll earn our respect with performances like that. Would have been a tough day without that fightback from haddin and johnson though, it was a heartening display. Clarke still struggling with the short one is a worry but the collapse wasnt as hopeless as they've been in the past as warner, watson and smith all looked solid before getting out to bad shots. That said, people calling the likes of anderson, broad and swann mediocre is laughable.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on November 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    Well, first day over, and really pleased to be proven wrong (again) about Broad. As landl47 says, it's ridiculous to get smug and start making silly predictions before both teams have batted - I mean what's to stop MJ/Harris doing worse to England tomorrow? England finally decided to go with Tremlett in the end... be interesting to see how much of an impact he makes. Can't help but think that from 132 for 6 at one stage, England should have progressed further than they've done and (once again) strengthens my worry that once a lower-order player (like MJ here) starts going crazy, England have no plans/control over what to do. Really need to work on this. Finally, well done to Haddin; really glad Aus. stuck with him, and happy to see Lyon there too. Great start to the series.

  • Sultan2007 on November 21, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    Australia's predicament should be of no surprise. With the top six consisting of Watson (a bowling all rounder who's not fit to bowl), a utility player in Steve Smith (good but perhaps not good enough for Test cricket) Bailey (doubtful long form cricket credentials) and Rogers (jury is still out. A journeyman at most), I cant see them competing. The odd innings from Clarke/Warner and maybe even Watson might keep them in the game, but thats about it. As they say, bowlers can win you matches but batsmen can lose it for you. Sadly, that is Australia's predicament today

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    @mahjut, I think he was Anthony was talking about the Aus Player, and when you consider you had Lehmann, Stuart Law, Stuart McGill, and a few others that didnt get a chance until the end of thier careers or were injury replacements so only got a limited number of tests he is spot on saying that they would have walked into the current side over the likes of Watson, Rodgers, etc.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 21, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    @ cloudmess on (November 21, 2013, 8:57 GMT) He is an Englishmen trying to be funny (well I do assume with the name brittop) but you did not find it funny eh, me either.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on November 21, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    @Mitty2 (post on November 21, 2013, 2:10 GMT): Morning mate. You know what - I ain't going to argue with you because: 1. As I said in another thread about Warner, I'm going to reserve judgement on him until the end of the series; 2. A strike-rate of 59.75 suggests to me he's finally learning, and yes he's in home conditions; 3. He's got the highest score out of the top 6! How can I argue with that...

  • mahjut on November 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    @AnthonyMD ... who said """Think I was too spoiled living through the late 80's and 90's, my God there were a dozen blokes who couldn't get a look in at the Australian side, who could effectively pencil themselves in as 100 test players had they been around today. How was it allowed to come to this?????"""

    I finally have a clear understanding of the expression "retrospective distortion" - even if, as I have to assume, you are talking exclusively of the Aus talent pool

  • SamRoy on November 21, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    The quality of cricket except Harris and Bell was quite pedestrian (Anderson started very well and then faded) last Ashes and I don't expect it to improve any more this time around. Quality of test cricket is at an all-time low with very few decent teams around. Compare it to the mid-1990s when Australia were excellent, WI were declining but still excellent, Pakistan were very good, SA were very good, India were unbeatable at home though quite bad away, SL rapidly improving and quite good, NZ were steady and Zimbabwe could surprise you. And all those great fast bowlers Ambrose, Bishop, Walsh, McGrath, Warne, McDermott, Donald, Pollock, Akram, Waqar, Mushtaq Ahmed and Saqlain Mushtaq, Kumble, Murali and Gough. How much the standards have fallen!!!

  • on November 21, 2013, 9:08 GMT

    I am packing it in as an Australian fan. I won't watch any more of this series. This lack of a contest and the fact that England are clearly going to win 3-0 at the least is horrible, the fact that their bowlers get lauded so mightily when they might as well be bowling at buckets of cabbages is irksome, and the sheer depression of seeing a team that seems to have learnt nothing from four solid years of mistakes is too much to bear. Not even mentioning the fact that these are, by an astronomical ratio, the highest paid cricketers our country has EVER produced.

    Every series they fail at a trial you would never think of as a trial. Today the trial was BATTING THROUGH THE FIRST DAY AT THE GABBA. They scraped over the line as only miserable invertebrates can. James Sutherland must be grateful for the boards backing in the event of a whitewash. He may well need it.

  • SirViv1973 on November 21, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    @not anotherkeyboard expert, I don't see what the problem was with Eng overate. All 90 overs were bowled with 5 mins to spare of the additional 30 which is allowed. Considering around 70% of the overs were bowled by quicks I would say the overate was pretty standard for the modern game.

  • on November 21, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    Same story, different continent. One of the good things about the Ashes has been at the completion of a series giving both teams 18months - 2 years to rebuild / develop and seeing what they could come with next time around. Today was like watching the first day of the sixth test in England.

  • on November 21, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    'Your loss is my gain' was the moral of the story for the first day. Some awkward shot selections and lack of spirit from the Aussies have caused Broad pickup 5 for. Not that he hasn't bowled well, but the wicket taking deliveries weren't the best. hats off to Mitch, for he justified his selection, atleast for the batting. Should wait and see how the Aussies fare in the bowling department.

  • Hammond on November 21, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    @ brittop- I think the main criticism is that a test match goes for 5 days, and the Aussies were playing shots that you find in a 50 over a side contest. If a proper 5 day batting effort has become "boring" for you then maybe you should stick to watching odi cricket.

  • cloudmess on November 21, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    I've just seen someone write on here "surely you'd rather lose than become boring like England?" Seems to confirm that Aussies prefer whinging to winning these days.

  • on November 21, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    great to see some good cricket at last. If Australian batsmen can't handle the first day in Brisbane then it remains to be seen how they fare in Perth and against Swann in Brisbane. Full marks to Broad and the rest of the England attack for the disciplined performance.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    @Not_Another_Keybored_Expert,

    The so called slow over rate is a non-issue, they finished 30/40 miuntes after the expected close of play, which can be accounted for by Wickets falling (~2 minutes/wicket), and 3 drinks breaks (~15 minutes), there was also a 10-15 minute delay while the umpires inspected the ball and changed it.

    At 4 minutes per over that means the natural stoppages accounted for aroud 30 minutes of play or 7.5 overs, had the ball not been changed then they would probably have only over run by 15-20 minutes.

  • pat_one_back on November 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Pleasing to have Broad's mandatory one good day in any given series out of the way early! Andersen looks cunning but pedestrian certainly no more so than the lumbering giant of a peaceful trundler Tremlett. 300 is a solid open on the Gabba if Aust can claw 30 more, with clouds rolling in over a quicker and bouncier wicket tomorrow, 300 should be looking very handy by tea. Not to be missed is that Aust's consistent ability to score at an attractive rate despite regular wickets means a missed opportunity day still has them on par with Eng batting thru to lunch day 2.

  • kensohatter on November 21, 2013, 8:46 GMT

    I cant believe some of the comments here. Yes Haddin and Johnson did a fair salvage job but Australia are still nowhere near the 450+ England will score on this flat deck. The batting from the top 6 was not up to scratch at all and if its all the aussies can offer they are in for a long summer. The pitch is doing nothing (although has some bounce for Johnson). In my opinion the selectors got it wrong picking bailey (and I said this on posts before today) He scored 3 today and gave two chances before he got out! Also does anyone expect Watson to do any more than just get a start... He always throws it away and today he did it an over before lunch exposing Clarke who survived only to get out 7 balls later in exactly the fashion england have said they would get him out. Warner looks good but he needs to just play and not worry whats happening around him. Once he feels the need to conserve his wicket and be cautious he gets out. Overall a frustrating day

  • thebatsmansHoldingthebowlersWilley on November 21, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    England have scored some early psychological blows on the Aussie top order. Take a bow Stuard Broad, perfect answer to the juvenile one-eyed aussie media. If we keep Clarke quiet like we did in 2010/11 it's hard to see how Australia can win the Ashes. When the pressure was on Watson buckled again. Well played to Haddin and MJ though, a great fighting effort, you saved your team from embarrassment today. If we can see off the new ball it's made for Cook and Trott to grind them into the dust.

  • on November 21, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Well,il is a lot better than 132 for 6 isnt it ? I think we just have to hold our comments till the australians bowl. The way Broad got Clarke makes one think that Hariis and Mitchell Johnson could have their moments. Broad bowled well and I think there is scope for the australians to bend their back and get back into the game. Good signs from Warner, Smith and Haddin and the fact that Mitchell Johnson got a fifty might actually improve his confidence. Its not over boys, go for it. It is not an ideal score but just imagine how bad it might have been ! Ramanujam Sridhar

  • AnthonyMD on November 21, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    Just a decent day's cricket today, went pretty much as expected. Australian batting was predictably up and down,fluctuating between shambolic and steady. England's bowling was fairly solid all day, nothing startling, but then again I suppose it didn't have to be. Very ho hum stuff all round. Think I was too spoiled living through the late 80's and 90's, my God there were a dozen blokes who couldn't get a look in at the Australian side, who could effectively pencil themselves in as 100 test players had they been around today. How was it allowed to come to this?????

  • Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on November 21, 2013, 8:33 GMT

    Something has to be done about Englands slow over rate, It's happened time and time again and nothing Has been done about it, Apart from that it was an enjoyable days play, England bowled well and Australia showed fight to claw their way back in the game But as someone who attended the first day it was pretty clear that England use there slowing down between overs as a tactic to suit them whenever they feel momentum has swung in the oppositions favour which doesn't make for great viewing.

  • brittop on November 21, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    All these Aussie fans criticising their batsmen for getting out playing shots. Surely you'd rather lose than become boring like England?

  • Cool_Jeeves on November 21, 2013, 8:23 GMT

    Feels good to watch some real cricket at last. Despite being an Indian, I am quite disgusted at the quality of batting dominated cricket we see in our country. Broad was always talented, and available, whereas Australia's talented players are not available (Cummins, Pattinson). As we see more of T20s, injuries to players from countries that indulge themselves will weaken their test teams (except India, who has mainly batsmen).

  • ToneMalone on November 21, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    Not a great day for Australia. Warner aside, the top six were all dismissed by good deliveries -- in fact no one batted truly "irresponsibly", and Broad was excellent. But can't help thinking Australia's batsmen would have survived at least some of those wicket-taking deliveries with a better technique and knowledge of their off stump. As for Clarke's dismissal to that short delivery, that's a real worry. He was once a fine player of shorter deliveries but he's increasingly reminding me of Michael Atherton late in his career -- a fine batsman pinned down by back stiffness. Hopefully he'll find a way to combat the back issues and short balls for a couple more years yet.

  • warnerbasher on November 21, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    Australia's superior bowling attack should ensure a 280-300 score will be enough. Accurate bowling by the Aussies tomorrow should mean that the opposition will be behind on the first innings. The batting threats will be that trio of South Africans Trott, KP and Prior

  • on November 21, 2013, 8:14 GMT

    320 and Australia can be competitive; 350 and Australia will be in front in the game with first innings runs on the board. My fingers are doubly crossed for the 2 remaining wickets tommorrow!

  • on November 21, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    high five ..x..

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    @latecut_04, I'll reserve judgement on this, until we see him bowl, he may well be high on confidence but as a bowler it can be easily dented as the ball disappears to the boundary, just like with batsmen confidence will evaporate quickly if you get out for a string of low scores even if it was the result of good deliveries.

  • warneneverchuck on November 21, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    This kind of flat pitches are killing the the beauty of test cricket Wher ball doesn't turn at all and no help for spinners

  • latecut_04 on November 21, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    Aus fans are being soft on their batsmen when they say some dismissals were 'soft',attributed to rash shots etc.This was heard a lot during the test matches in India where pitches were as dry as a bone.Why should batsmen continuously play 'rash'/'careless'/'impulsive' shots for 4 tests in a row on belters when opppostion is amassing runs by a truckload.Again we heard this about Aus batsmen in England last June.Especially the top order.what caused 'freak' dismissals then?reason is simple.they are 'limited' overs batsmen disguised as test/class batsmen because they are lucky to be playing for Aus after 2007-8.Period.The likes of Bevan/Law and even Boof himself must be wishing they were playing now.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 21, 2013, 8:05 GMT

    Welcome to all our Indian friends.. I hope you enjoyed the first days play in the Ashes as I have. phew, I thought it was only Hughes and Khawaja that cannot handle pressure, but as an Aussie supporter I will take 270 for 8, at 5 for 100 we could have been beaten inside 3 days by an innings a couple of hundred runs... like they deserve, but now if it goes into day 4 or 5 the weather plays a part.... can Harris and or Lyon do an Agar ? @ VivGilchrist on (November 21, 2013, 7:14 GMT) I am a Watson fan , but so close to lunch he has never had the concentration or no how to be a complete test cricketer.

  • Malvino on November 21, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    All the talk of boring, negative England with mediocre bowling and field settings.

    The point is to win the games, and as in any game you don't show your cards until you need to. England will plod along and win, and if Oz can up their game and compete, then hopefully England have more gears available. This ensures that Oz are always that little bit behind, and never know exactly how much better they have to get, which is demoralizing.

    At present England are well on top, and as long as they stay on top they will be boring because playing their best and showing exactly what they have gives an advantage to the chasing team. When they're put under pressure they can, and will, take risks and be innovative. Lets hope Oz can manage to put them under pressure at some stage, then we can see if England can produce world class cricket before saying they're only medicore.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    @Meety, have to agree this brisbane wicket is looking like a good cricket wicket, it seems to have everything in it at the moment, just enough to keep bowlers interested and not too little that the batsman can score too freely.

    do you think it will behave like a traditional brisbane wicket and be at its best over the next 2 days? Or will the cracks start to open to give a little more help to the bowlers with some variable bounce?

  • disco_bob on November 21, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    Australia undone by 3 low quality dismissals. Looks like it will be up to the much maligned MJ, to do some real damage to the England batting lineup, otherwise we are in for a torrid two months

  • SamRoy on November 21, 2013, 7:55 GMT

    Australian current batting is reminiscent of West Indies of the late 90s. They did not foresee such pitiable batsmanship. Lack of planning, lack of vision and the mentality of "Everything will be all right". In such situations street fighters like James Faulkner above high maintenance, low value players Watson are always more preferable. Hope Aussie batting improves in 5 years time. Currently all the Aussie selectors can do is quick fix of playing the batsman in form in the domestic tournaments and hope that at least some of them can be successful for sometime.

  • Nutcutlet on November 21, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    That's a proper day's Test cricket. England can feel satisfied that things have been kept well under control, with no weak link in an attack that hunted as a pack, Tremlett's selection being absolutely justified despite all those who felt that Finn/Rankin had better claims. Broad had an outstanding day of controlled aggression - which just shows how ironic life can be, considering his great popularity in Oz! So much for the juvenile hate campaign: backfiring spectacularly. Another victory chalked up for the one-eyed! And anyone who loves their cricket will have been impressed by the magnificent rearguard from Haddin & Johnson. That was special - in the best tradition of these contests, so stern & genuine, full of character. Besides all these points of apppreciation, we didn't get a single review to interrupt the flow of play. It doesn't get much better for pure cricketing value than this: a proper day, indeed.

  • latecut_04 on November 21, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    Jhonson has scored 70 odd and he is a confidence player.He will fire as only he can provided clarke uses him wisely and properly.(first change for heaven's sake.)This match is going to be remembered for Mithc's redemption in international cricket.Any takers???and this is from India

  • yorkslanka on November 21, 2013, 7:44 GMT

    England's day with the ball. As much as I dislike him, broad bowled very well..to me the Aus line up was one batsman short. If you look at that team, the only batsmen likely to score tons are Clarke and Haddin whereas in Eng line up you have Cook, Trott, Pietersen, Bell and Root.

  • Naresh28 on November 21, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    What is happening to Oz? Patience seems to be lacking with most opening batsman of the world? Or is the relentlessness pace attack England is dishing out? I feel England has the best pace combo - so much variety and accuracy.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 21, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    After the Toss I think Cook would have been happy to restrict Australia to less than 300 in a days play, and after tea Australia would have been happy with anything over 250.

    So much for the fans "making Broad cry", unless its with tears of Joy at taking a 5'fer on what seems like a good batting pitch.

    All in all Australia must feel disappointed to have thrown away top order wickets cheaply, but we'll have to wait and see how England bat before making a judgement on what a par score is on what is a newly relaid outfield.

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on November 21, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    The predictable rants of jealous T20 fans attacking the pinnacle of Cricket and the oldest rivalry in the game I see. Why not save yourselves the pain and stay clear of these reports? Don't see how such 'fans' are adding to the drama and excitement of the series so why are they continually allowed to voice their non opinions? Pls. publish.

  • Meety on November 21, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    @Arun Bose you serious?, there is many differences between the Gabba & any Indian Test pitch. For starters - the pitches are quicker, they are also bouncier - which means pace bowlers are prepared to have a go. == == == Dissapointing batting display from the top order - MJ & Hadds take a bow, you saved us a hell of a lot of embarrassment. Still - if you can get 300, & bowl & field well - still in the game. I am a lot less stressed than at 6/130ish!

  • landl47 on November 21, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    A very good day's play. Great fight-back by Haddin and Johnson after England had knocked over the first 6, then a couple of wickets with the new ball to alter the balance again.

    It's always silly to talk about what the par score is before both sides have batted, but if, after Australia won the toss and decided to bat, you had offered both sides 8-273 at the close, which team do you think would have taken it?

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 21, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    This is what happens when you get abolustely world class bowling against a weaker home side that only have a few weak punchlines from their coach to encourage them in the face of a quite different reality. Even though a flat road is the surface being played on, the best bowlers make the ball talk, even in these conditions. Broad was absolutely magnificent, as everyone apart from some very embarrassed (again) posters foresaw he would be. A par score at the Gabba is 350 - 400. England should make 450+ and Swann will do what he always does, rip through them, second innings. A great day of cricket.

  • VivGilchrist on November 21, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    All this hate for Watson yet he scored more than Clarke, Rogers, and Bailey combined. Some people have an axe to grind....

  • on November 21, 2013, 7:11 GMT

    Australian fans were bashing India for producing so called flat tracks but what is the difference betweem Jaipur wicket and the wicket at Gabba on which this match is in progress? It's a dead flat track and still Australia are struggling to put a decent score on the board..Australia is similar to BD nowadays as they lose everywhere..home and abroad..

  • CodandChips on November 21, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    Aussie fans a bit early to jump on your players' backs. It's only one innings. I think you'll still get 350+. I've always rated Haddin's batting. Johnson and Siddle are more than handy. And your bowling attack can cause problems. Personally I reckon this match is beautifully poised.

    Very surprised by Tremlett's selection- maybe Saker has seen something . To get aussies six down for little seems to indicate it worked, before Johnson and Haddin proved how weak our bowling actually is.

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 21, 2013, 6:58 GMT

    @electric_loco_WAP4 So you are suggesting that the mother and father of the test game , the marquee cricket series Ashes be reduced to 3 Tests instead of 5 to accommodate T20s? Eng has been playing ODIs after the Ashes anyways so whats your point?

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on November 21, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    I think of an innovative idea to make test cricket - incl. the mother and father of the test game , the marquee cricket series Ashes- in particular and cricket in gen. more even,competitive ,watchable,marketable and be a viable and practical form that is capable of keeping interest of the new and coming gen. and also staying durable as a spectator sport of int. a few more years into the future at least. As is well known , the std. of tests - test teams - is at an all time low with 7 of 'top' 8 'test' teams - SA excepted - struggling to rise above mediocrity. With t20 and ODIs becoming by far the most sought cricket products and widely watched and viewed also becoming the financial staple of the ICC/boards and the game ,surely they should be included as a part of every big ticket series . Eg, 'Ashes' should include 3 tests, 3 ODIs and 3 t20s . It is a success in women's Ashes. Time that it is brought into the mainstream and adopted as a format for all 'big' series.

  • on November 21, 2013, 6:33 GMT

    the ashes tests are beginning to look like street fights rather than quality contests! no matter what history might say one should judge a contest only on its face value and in that context I think the last 3 ashes series have been real flop shows! aus began declining immediately after that 5-0 thrashing of eng when their greats retired in a procession and they have not produced any performance to say that they are awesome... mauling an aged Indian team in 2011 was no proud achievement according to me! and now they just continue to contribute to the wickets tally of broad who s as overrated a player as you will come across!

  • Mindmeld on November 21, 2013, 6:27 GMT

    My God, batting does look easy out there! This is going to be a very long day two and three for Australia.

  • Marcio on November 21, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    What is inexplicable is that sub-state players significantly outperformed our test players, against the same bowlers, on tracks that were just as lame as this one. Like I said, inexplicable. This is no great England team, and in these conditions good batsmen should score big hundreds against these bowlers. This is the kind of track where 500 would only be a goodish score. Johnson and Haddin are showing just how easy batting is. It's time to start getting rid of a few players. No more Watson. You cant keep rewarding failure, and I am afraid that is exactly what he is. Faulkner would be better value. He believes in himself and isn't scared of getting out. Let's give youth a chance.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on November 21, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    Well, says a lot about these 2 mediocre teams that ordinary bowler like Broad can be gifted 4 wickets in 1st session. To be fair to Broad ,he put the ball there and some bats obliged with their wickets. Even those Aus bowlers not in the squad like Mckay, Sayers,Cutting etc are far superior than likes of Broad and Anderson. On this pitch even they would have found tough to get 4 wickets in 1st session ,says it all about the batting. Good thing is won't wait long to see the world's fastest and no.1 bowling superstar L/F Mitch sending 155 kph swinging bolts to take 5-6 Eng sticks himself and get them under 100 bu close of day1 . We might see Aus bat again next morning. Of course, they can't bat so poorly again like in 1st inng. Surely .

  • Llka on November 21, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    These two teams never produce quallity cricket. most importantly they are not honest teams.they want to win matches no matter what quallity or honesty they posses.

  • Shaggy076 on November 21, 2013, 5:02 GMT

    So far the series has started out the complete opposite to the last time England toured Australia. Where England were rolled for 260, lets hoe the series follows a similar reverse path.

  • PrasPunter on November 21, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    For all we did to the likes of Simon Katich, we just deserve this stuff !! Lost those wonderful commited test-cricketers, and live with the likes of Watson to play at No 3. Take it Aus !! We just deserve this !!

  • DylanBrah on November 21, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    You put any shield side in to bat against England on this pitch, against this bowling - and they would score twice the amount 'Australia' will. This is pathetic and unacceptable.

  • ImpartialExpert on November 21, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    If you want to be positive as an Aussie you can draw similarities between this innings and the Indian innings in the first test match of the recently concluded Ind vs WI series. India were 80 odd for five and 150 odd for 6 and went on to make more than 450. The pitch is still good for batting but the English bowlers are bowling really well. If Aus can bat this session without losing a wicket then they may be able to do it.

  • on November 21, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    Steve Smith's not the only bright young hope. Phil Hughes is still the top young prospect out there, no idea why they keep dropping him, if ever there was someone who deserved a long run. Dave Warner's still not an old player at 27, Alex Doolan is 28 in a week, he's not old either and on the rise. Jordan Silk also down in Tassie is a very promising player with three tons in his first seven first class matches.

    Watson's gotta go. 173 against Englands part timers in a dead rubber and his more than useful bowling just keeps getting him picked again and again. We don't need an all rounder more than we need champion batsmen in the top 6, and he's just not ever gonna be one.

    Now that they've picked Bailey how soon can they drop him? They are committed to giving him a few chances now.

    Rogers Hughes Doolan Clarke Smith Warner Haddin O'Keefe Johnson Harris Siddle

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on November 21, 2013, 4:47 GMT

    I saw some Australian posters before this series..some Australian fans refered India as home track bullies..atleast we r winning in our home pitches unlike your team which is getting a thrashing everwhere..but I m supporting aussies here in this series even though their fans make fun of India

  • on November 21, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    Ha Ha ! Never thought I'd see the day where I wanted the Poms to smash us but it has come and I'm enjoying it. If I think back to the guys that Australian Cricket has burnt over the years ,Brad Hodge(by far one of Australia's best batsman) Michael Bevan,Simon Katich,Jamie Siddons,Stuart Clark etc just to name a few who couldn't get a game or unceremoniusly lost their contracts, we deserve a good hiding. Yeah I know it was through our golden years when we had the superstars like Waney, Mcgrath,Langer, Gilly and co, but seriously when players of this calibre can't get picked or are discarded what is going on? Katich and Doolan in this test would have been handy!

  • Cpt.Meanster on November 21, 2013, 4:30 GMT

    I think we can get a little contest going here. Which is the world's MOST brittle batting line up in test cricket currently ? 1) West Indies 2) Australia 3) Pakistan. I think there is very little between them all. All three of them struggle to make 200 nowadays in test cricket. England on top here and bowling well on a FLAT highway.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 21, 2013, 3:53 GMT

    England's pacers are very uninspiring, especially Tremlett. He is always around 129kmph or thereabouts. He doesn't seem fit. Australia should have chosen to bowl. Batsmen seem to be too lazy and not properly warmed up. Batting second might have helped them a bit more. Very benign bowling by England but that seems good enough to pluck wickets. Let's see how Smith and Haddin take it from here. Kudos to the crowd and to me for continuing to watch the ordinary proceedings thus far.

  • on November 21, 2013, 3:51 GMT

    Ricky Ponting, Michael Hussey and Simon Katich would still have been asset to this T20 team which is currently playing in Ashes... Obsession with youth is ok if they are at least good enough to survive let alone excel in the test arena....

  • TheBigBoodha on November 21, 2013, 3:43 GMT

    And can some officials please get onto England with this constant ball changing? It really is beyond the spirit of the game. No other team in world cricket does it, but the English are constantly changing the ball every time the opposition batsmen get on top. It really has to be stopped. The most annoying thing is that it works, as the ball change brings wickets almost every time.

  • ImpartialExpert on November 21, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Anderson with so much talent would have been in the league of Dale Stein if he pitched the ball one foot further up. How come nobody talks about it?

  • PrasPunter on November 21, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    Ashes lost !!

    Watson - thank you for the "memories" Pup - may be another chance. Bailey - wondering he is test material Warner - mature but couldn't capitalize Smith - only the one who gives some hope

    Just poor stuff overall !!

  • kahvas on November 21, 2013, 3:29 GMT

    The current Aussie team is no where near what it was. You can talk all you want, but you should have the talent to back it up.

  • TheBigBoodha on November 21, 2013, 3:21 GMT

    Just terrible cricket from Australia. The most painful thing is that they are losing to a team which is little more than methodical and predictable. Other than a couple of decent balls from Broad, the bowling has been innocuous, the pitch perfect. Anderson and Tremlett are little more than line and lenth bowlers in such conditions, and Swann reduced to holding up an end. But we a 4-80. This is a 400+ pitch. England's robot players like Trott and Cook will just score at 2 runs an over forever on it.

  • ShutTheGate on November 21, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    @ Mitty - If Warner was test quality he wouldn't have got out to an easy ball when the pressure was on. He's a good batter no doubt but he's not mentally tough. Test batsmen are mentally strong.

  • ShutTheGate on November 21, 2013, 3:11 GMT

    We're (Australia) are getting thumped here. The frustrating thing is that all the batters have been in shield form so it must be that our batters are buckling under pressure. Collapsing again. There's no excuses from the pitch or umpire this time, just lack of mental toughness.

    This will really show the character of Bailey. Poor bloke his team mates haven't exactly set up a good platform for him to make his debut.

    We'll be lucky to salvage 300 from here. 350 will be a miracle. Maybe we should have picked 8 bowlers!

  • on November 21, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    Aussie batting as brittle as ever!!! How will they pressurize England if they do not score over 350 at least ?

  • scarab666 on November 21, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    Watson true to form fails again at test level. When will the selectors see the light or should I say the writing is on the wall but not only for Watto…..Rogers also is not test standard and Clarke HAS to go, he is not a leader of men and he is starting to show too many weaknesses as an ageing batsman. Australia have lost the ability to bat the long form of the game…..its that simple. The side is littered with short form players. England may just win this series 5-0 barring the weather.

  • on November 21, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    I was wondering how this Aussie team got so hyped up after getting a drubbing from India and torn up in England. It seemed like during the break after the Ashes the batsmen got better somehow the way everyone was talking. Reading all the articles and comments about Australia being tough. It's the same batting line up. No miracles happened. Only the bowlers can save them, same as before.

  • Dark.Matter on November 21, 2013, 2:52 GMT

    One of the most boring ashes of all time

  • Shaggy076 on November 21, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    Time the ICC started to eradicate pathetic overrates. 25 overs in the first session with Swann wheeling down 4. Its not just a problem with England but all through-out international cricket. They take so long to set fields these days, particularly as England captain by committee and regular committee meetings are held whilst the public watches nothing. Surely, Cook have the balls take charge and set your field and overrates wont be so pathetic.

  • Jonathan_E on November 21, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    I think the plan is "get Broad to bowl as much as possible in the hope that most of the Aussies get so angry at his continued existence that they do something silly".

    So far it's working...

  • Mitty2 on November 21, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    Omigod shane watson, when will you ever give up on thinking that you're test quality? You're not now, you never were and you never will be. If a batting average of under 30 and a bowling average of above 40 over the last three years doesn't convince the selectors that he's not test quality nothing ever will... Perfect batting conditions and a minute till lunch and he plays that shot. His presence will never allow stability in the team as he badically gets to choose where he bats (whereever he doesn't fail - he's running out of options). Please Shane Watson, do Australian cricket a favour: retire.

    Ignoring the usual failures of Twatto, otherwise a good, entertaining morning. Warner showing he's test quality RU4REALNICK. Anything less than 400 is unacceptable - after all we've averaged over 450 in our first innings at the Gabba over the last decade.

  • TheBigBoodha on November 21, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    As usual Watson gets himself out to innocuous bowling just before the break. Is there any player in international cricket who has ever done this so repeatedly? So predictably? The bowlers don't even have to try, and that is the saddest part. I can't see that he is good enough for international cricket. Just has too many brain freezes and isn't up to it mentally. It doesn't matter who they throw the ball to. Could have been Prior and he would have imploded.

  • on November 21, 2013, 1:56 GMT

    Michael Carberry is it an ideal choice. Nick Compton would had been better. Tremlett over Panesar again I think is not an ideal selection....

  • on November 21, 2013, 1:05 GMT

    Why have they gone for Tremlett??? Hasn't got much above 83 , ( this by the 13th over) Finn is expensive but at least hes quick and gets wickets.... surely someone could see he'd lost pace? currently have three pace men all bowling without any real pace.

  • on November 21, 2013, 1:05 GMT

    Why have they gone for Tremlett??? Hasn't got much above 83 , ( this by the 13th over) Finn is expensive but at least hes quick and gets wickets.... surely someone could see he'd lost pace? currently have three pace men all bowling without any real pace.

  • on November 21, 2013, 1:56 GMT

    Michael Carberry is it an ideal choice. Nick Compton would had been better. Tremlett over Panesar again I think is not an ideal selection....

  • TheBigBoodha on November 21, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    As usual Watson gets himself out to innocuous bowling just before the break. Is there any player in international cricket who has ever done this so repeatedly? So predictably? The bowlers don't even have to try, and that is the saddest part. I can't see that he is good enough for international cricket. Just has too many brain freezes and isn't up to it mentally. It doesn't matter who they throw the ball to. Could have been Prior and he would have imploded.

  • Mitty2 on November 21, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    Omigod shane watson, when will you ever give up on thinking that you're test quality? You're not now, you never were and you never will be. If a batting average of under 30 and a bowling average of above 40 over the last three years doesn't convince the selectors that he's not test quality nothing ever will... Perfect batting conditions and a minute till lunch and he plays that shot. His presence will never allow stability in the team as he badically gets to choose where he bats (whereever he doesn't fail - he's running out of options). Please Shane Watson, do Australian cricket a favour: retire.

    Ignoring the usual failures of Twatto, otherwise a good, entertaining morning. Warner showing he's test quality RU4REALNICK. Anything less than 400 is unacceptable - after all we've averaged over 450 in our first innings at the Gabba over the last decade.

  • Jonathan_E on November 21, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    I think the plan is "get Broad to bowl as much as possible in the hope that most of the Aussies get so angry at his continued existence that they do something silly".

    So far it's working...

  • Shaggy076 on November 21, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    Time the ICC started to eradicate pathetic overrates. 25 overs in the first session with Swann wheeling down 4. Its not just a problem with England but all through-out international cricket. They take so long to set fields these days, particularly as England captain by committee and regular committee meetings are held whilst the public watches nothing. Surely, Cook have the balls take charge and set your field and overrates wont be so pathetic.

  • Dark.Matter on November 21, 2013, 2:52 GMT

    One of the most boring ashes of all time

  • on November 21, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    I was wondering how this Aussie team got so hyped up after getting a drubbing from India and torn up in England. It seemed like during the break after the Ashes the batsmen got better somehow the way everyone was talking. Reading all the articles and comments about Australia being tough. It's the same batting line up. No miracles happened. Only the bowlers can save them, same as before.

  • scarab666 on November 21, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    Watson true to form fails again at test level. When will the selectors see the light or should I say the writing is on the wall but not only for Watto…..Rogers also is not test standard and Clarke HAS to go, he is not a leader of men and he is starting to show too many weaknesses as an ageing batsman. Australia have lost the ability to bat the long form of the game…..its that simple. The side is littered with short form players. England may just win this series 5-0 barring the weather.

  • on November 21, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    Aussie batting as brittle as ever!!! How will they pressurize England if they do not score over 350 at least ?