Australia v England, 5th ODI, Adelaide

Australia hit back for five-run win

The Report by Daniel Brettig in Adelaide

January 26, 2014

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Australia 9 for 217 (Bailey 56, Broad 3-31, Stokes 3-43) beat England 212 (Root 55, Coulter-Nile 3-34, McKay 3-37) by five runs
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'Familiar story with England on Australia Day thriller'

Brilliant for much of this summer, Australia settled for simply being the lucky country on their national day, as a fortuitous moment at the pointy end of the final ODI effectively handed the hosts a fourth limited-overs victory out of five over England and a ninth from 10 encounters including the Ashes clean sweep.

In a scrappy contest dictated largely by the sluggishness of Adelaide Oval's drop-in pitch, Australia posted a mediocre total but defended it grandly against an England team who threatened to take control at several stages of the chase but could never quite manage to wrest command of the evening.

Alastair Cook, Joe Root and Eoin Morgan all contributed useful scores to take England close, but it was left to Ravi Bopara to try to take his team to a second win in a row. He seemed likely to carry them there, until falling victim to a most unfortunate end, as Matthew Wade's fumble behind the stumps bounced back onto the leg bail with the batsman's foot barely raised.

The Australians celebrated their win raucously and fittingly - it was one more moment of joy in a summer brimful of them, while England rued the swings of outrageous fortune that inevitably seem to go against the side to fall behind. The hosts owed much to Nathan Coulter-Nile, who delivered perhaps his best and most disciplined spell for Australia, before Clint McKay gave nothing away in the closing overs.

James Faulkner also bowled well despite complaining of knee soreness earlier in the day, while Shaun Marsh may be under his own fitness cloud having left the field midway through England's chase. Aaron Finch was the beneficiary of two dropped chances in the afternoon but was beaten for pace by a revved up Stuart Broad, before Shane Watson, Michael Clarke and Shaun Marsh all perished to loose strokes as they tried to raise the hosts' run rate.

The remainder of the innings was a struggle despite the best efforts of George Bailey, the only batsman to pass 50 in the face of a diligent England bowling line-up. Broad's pace and direction showed the way for his colleagues, while Ben Stokes, Tim Bresnan, Chris Jordan and James Tredwell also delivered sturdy spells.

Ian Bell and Cook began smartly, until the difficulties posed for shot-making on a decidedly slow surface began to rear. Bell tried to drive on the up and was taken at mid-off. Stokes' attempted pull shot was not middled and settled in the hands of midwicket. Then after a partnership with Root that hinted at success, Cook himself mistimed to short cover.

Root showed admirable composure on his return to the team, unhurried and unflustered while building another stand with Morgan. At 3 for 154 they were close to breaking the back of the chase, only for Morgan to follow his predecessors in perishing to a lofted stroke, this time finding Shane Watson at mid-off from the bowling of James Faulkner.

James Faulkner took two crucial wickets in the final overs, Australia v England, 5th ODI, Adelaide, January 26, 2014
James Faulkner's late wickets helped turn the match on its head © Getty Images

Three runs later and Root was trudging off too, his attempted paddle only succeeding in picking out short fine leg. A previously restive Australia Day crowd found its voice as the Australian huddle grew more enthusiastic. Jos Buttler enhanced their anticipation when he picked out deep midwicket with a pull shot, and Bresnan's one mowed six over wide long-on was cancelled out when he was thrown out by Glenn Maxwell, running in from cover.

Those who had witnessed the final day of the Adelaide Test against South Africa were made nervous by the sight of Wade stationing himself up to the stumps for McKay, but the bowler averted any problems by bringing one between bat and pad to bowl Broad. That left Bopara with just Jordan and Tredwell for company, and the fourth ball of the penultimate over brought unexpected reward for Wade's decision to stay up.

Beaten outside off stump by McKay, Bopara very briefly lifted his back foot, and at the same moment Wade's failure to glove the ball cleanly had it ricochet back onto the stumps. It was an exceptionally tight call, but the third umpire Kumar Dharmasena went the way of Australia. Bopara walked off in a daze, and Watson bowled a suitably tight final over to make the match safe.

Jordan and Broad had almost as much reason to curse their ill-fortune early in the afternoon, when Cook and Bopara both dropped chances they should have taken from Finch. Jordan's new ball swing posed problems at one end while Broad's pace was notable at the other, eventually rewarded when Finch was far too late on a ball that uprooted off stump.

Watson made a fairly ugly duck, narrowly avoiding an lbw appeal and DRS referral by Broad then swishing at a wide delivery and offering a catch to Buttler. Clarke spent 26 balls over 8 before trying to smear Bresnan across the line and also being bowled, and Marsh's start was wasted when he clipped Stokes to midwicket where this time Cook held on.

For a time Bailey and Maxwell stemmed the bleeding, manoeuvring the ball around a somewhat spongy outfield with the occasional muscular blow to the boundary. However Maxwell's patience is far from infinite, and a dabble too many outside off stump brought an edge behind the wicket.

Bailey's innings was nothing spectacular but he came closest to finding the right balance between aversion and aggression to score at a reasonable rate. Even so, his last 23 balls were devoid of a boundary, creating pressure that resulted in an attempted punch down the ground that skewed instead to mid-on.

Wade did his best with a busy 31, then Faulkner and Coulter-Nile tried to hit out at the finish, but the final tally looked meagre. Jordan was rewarded for his unrewarded earlier efforts with two wickets in as many balls during an excellent final over, but was to be left crestfallen at the finish as the chase fell maddeningly yet somehow fittingly short.

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Posted by Harmony111 on (January 31, 2014, 5:48 GMT)


Ok Physics grad. The ball did hit the leg side bail on its 'central' side, causing the other end to move up in an arc. If one end is going up & if the bail is rigid then clearly the other end would either go down (or would stay in its place). The middle stump prevented the 'central' end of the leg bail to move down thus it constrained the leg bail as a whole to move in the clockwise direction from the backside angle. In other words, the ball gave a torque to the leg bail with its 'central' end as its pivot. From the back side angle one can clearly see the leg bail 1st moving up while its 'central' end is masked by Wade's legs & gloves. Can you not see this? Come on.

The bail did finally fall down. I don't deny this. But by the time that bail came off fully, Bopara's foot was back on ground.

The law is crystal clear here but even if it is poor, we got to play by it. Rem Chappell, Lillee, David Hussey?

We debate it cos some ppl just can't get it.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 30, 2014, 13:58 GMT)


The bail has two grooves , not one. Somehow most ppl here fail to see this or deliberately ignore this. The bail must be out of its two grooves, if one end is in touch with the grooves then it is not out. Countless times we have seen replays for run-outs and stumping in the past where the 3rd umpire was trying to see when the bail was fully dislodged. This is a settled issue really.

You are in a car and asked to come out, would you say you are totally out of the car if one leg of yours is still inside the car while the other leg is on the ground? I guess not. Pls transpose this for the the two ends of a bail in the two grooves.

Reg your 2nd para, strictly speaking that would be not out cos the bail is still on the stumps. What you ask is really an extreme case of stuff that has already happened. A few times a delivery has hit the stumps, the bails have risen but have fallen back in place. That has never been given out even though both the bails were in the air.

Posted by Thegimp on (January 30, 2014, 1:41 GMT)

@Harmony111.....Mate as you have enthusiastically made your point, the stumps are broken when the bail is out of its grove. It only has to out of the grove, not clear of the grove. Had the bail resettled into the grove it wouldn't have been out but it didn't, so the only way they can make a decision is by ascertaining that the bail had left its grove when Bopara was out and not resettled in it so therefore he was out. Not when both ends of the bail had left their groves, it only takes one end of the bail to leave its grove for the stumps to be broken.

Going by your "pendulum" theory, if a batsman is short of his ground when the stumps are hit and the bail has left off stump and is standing on its end, perpendicular, still touching middle stump, the batsman should be deemed "not out" as it hasn't completely left both groves. No, my friend, the stumps were broken as soon as any part of the bail is no longer touching, the only reprieve being is when, and if, they happen to resettle.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 29, 2014, 21:41 GMT)

Harmony111; I'm a physics graduate I understand what your trying to say. Try spinning a horizontal bail and you will realise the ridiculousness of your claim. The reality is the bail initially pushed into the stump then the whole bail lifted, but there was more force at one end to lift one end higher. The rule is written poorly and leaves to conjecture. The point of the bail being dislodged was when we visible saw the bail lift. There is no mention of grooves in the rule just clearance of the stump. My opinion will always be the moment you see the bails disturbed is the moment the stumps have been impacted. It is out and should always be out don't know why we are debating this

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 29, 2014, 15:19 GMT)


I will try to use a diff example that you can visualize better.

You must be aware of a thing called 'pendulum', right? The rod of a pendulum has two ends, one of which is at a pivot & the other end is free. The free end keeps changing its position as the pendulum goes to-n-fro. However, the pivoted end remains at its position.

I am not saying the bail would get into a to-n fro motion like a pendulum. I talked about pendulum cos I think you can now better visualize it rather than imaging how a bail would be rotating.

When a bail is struck by the ball, for a little while, the bail may act like the rod of a pendulum, one end of this bail would remain at a (sort of pivoted) fixed position while the other end would keep moving.

To say that the bail has been dislodged fully, you must wait till the fixed end too is out of its place, not before that. No cam proved this.

Hope this helps.

Posted by SkyCutter on (January 29, 2014, 13:18 GMT)

What a run AUS is having by winning 9 of the last 10 matches. It seems that ENG rankings have dropped in the two formats considerably because of this.

Well done AUS !!!

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 29, 2014, 10:58 GMT)

Harmony111; Give it a rest, it was given out by the ump and my opinion the correct decision you obviously disagree but your attack on Pras Punter was unwarranted when so many people share his view. My view the stumps were clearly broken, your rotation theory is a little hard to comprehend particularly with where the bail finished up but I guess your not Einstein either. One bail lifted enough for the cameras to see, indicates the breaking of the stumps to me satisfying the law ou have correctly written.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 29, 2014, 9:55 GMT)


You yourself are being dishonest in your comments while you accuse me of being dishonest.

1. FoA, there are 4 grooves (3 if one is pedantic), you pretend as if there is only 1. Why did you do this? Dishonesty or poor arithmetic?

2. Why do you talk of interpretation when the law itself is crystal clear? Don't the Aussies usually insist that the law is what matters, interpretations can vary?

3. How can a bail be said to COMPLETELY REMOVED when one end of it is still in its groove? Remember there are two ends of a bail both of which are in their respective grooves. How hard is it for someone to understand the diff between NEARLY & COMPLETELY?

4. In that entire footage, there is not a single moment when the bail was COMPLETELY REMOVED while Bopara's foot was in the air. I challenged Aussie fans to point that moment out, NONE could do it.

5. Bopara would have known he was in trouble but there is no way he would've known he was out when even Wade wasn't sure.


Posted by Harmony111 on (January 29, 2014, 9:42 GMT)

@Shaggy076 on (January 27, 2014, 10:58 GMT):

-------"Harmony111; Can you explain something for me? If the stumps are a fixed distance apart and the right side of the bail lifts 5cm so we can view it how is the left side of the bail still on the stump? Has it bent to form a new shape or increased in size. One side of the bail has visibly dislodged to the eye must also mean the other side is dislodged although by a lesser distance. Clearly out. "-------

Clearly you do not know the thing called rotation.

One end of the bail can move out of the groove even when the other end is still in the groove cos the the ball might strike the bail in such a manner that one end of the bail is dislodged & begins to rotate --- with --- the other end of the bail acting as the centre of this rotation but still in its groove.

A while later, the bail 'may' fell down cos it rotated out of its place too much.

Posted by Meety on (January 28, 2014, 12:18 GMT)

@DISHarmony111 on (January 27, 2014, 8:33 GMT) - you are being dishonest. IF, you took the time to cut and paste the bloody rules SURELY you read the Interpretations of the rule? No? It states that a bail is CONSIDERED completely removed when a bail HAS LEFT THE GROOVE!!!!!! A Bail had clearly left the groove at the same time as Bopara's foot was out of the crease & guess what? - even Bopara knew it too! He was dreadfully unlucky - but OUT!

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 28, 2014, 2:14 GMT)

To all the England fans claiming that you lost due to an incorrect stumping decision. Well I think you're giving Bopara too much credit to assume that he would have been able to win the game if he had not been given out.

Do you really think an out of form Bopara is capable of chasing a run a ball total at the death under pressure on a sluggish pitch? My opinion is that it's likely that he would have got out anyway.

Not that it matters, the game was a dead rubber - you had lost the series a week before this game!

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 27, 2014, 23:07 GMT)

Cricketsunami, you must be Indian. This "teams only win at home" story is popular and comforting to you, no doubt. But reality tells a different story. Australia has won almost all its ODI series abroad in the past three years, and other than the big loss to England during a lightning tour a few years ago, it hasn't lost anything overseas by a margin of more than one game. We probably would have beaten India too if we'd fielded players like Warner, Clarke and even Johnson for the deciding game.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 21:25 GMT)

Seems to me that the player of the series should have been EJG Morgan who, not only had a better average and higher total runs scored than Finch, but was far more consistent and, frankly, a more exciting batter.

Here are Morgan's stats: Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s 5 5 0 282 106 56.40 277 101.80 1 2 0 19 11

Here's Finch's stats: Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s 5 5 0 258 121 51.60 278 92.80 2 0 1 24 4

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 27, 2014, 19:26 GMT)

@shaggy, spot on..bropara was clearly out to all neutral, unbiased spectators, but some people see what they want to see. Some people are like owls , the more light you shine on them, the less they see.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 27, 2014, 19:18 GMT)

@JG2704 Agree Nixon was more than useful in that WC. Here's my team for West Indies, pick your "leftfield selection".

1.Hales 2.Moeen Ali 3.Taylor 4.Morgan 5.Ballance 6.Buttler 7&8 (2 out of Woakes/Stokes/Borthwick) 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs/Topley. Other reserves Vince and Davies.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 17:57 GMT)

@CodandChips on (January 27, 2014, 17:17 GMT) They wont go for Trego anyway but sometimes a leftfield selection can work in these shorter formats. Remember when they selected Nixon? Trego had a pretty mediocre SF season in 2012 but a great one in 2013 in which he was selected for the YB40 team of the year. So last season he was pretty consistent. In 2012 he seemed to try and build inns but he seemed to have more success when he's in a more destructive mood.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 27, 2014, 17:17 GMT)

@JG2704 You suggest Trego, and I while I admit he's been one of the most destructive batsmen in the country over the last few years, he isn't very consistent. Also I doubt he'd have any success with the ball. But I guess he couldn't do much worse than Bopara

Posted by Temuzin on (January 27, 2014, 16:12 GMT)

Nothing to be excited about. Now adays every team is doing the same. Winning at their home pitches. Its called Home pich advantage, Australia, England, India, SA and NZ all are winners in their homes.

Posted by DragonCricketer on (January 27, 2014, 14:36 GMT)

Wade sometimes makes me think that he is batting for his spot. After all he has got Paine & Neville hot on his heels. All wanting the No.2 keeper job to be in position to takeover Haddin within next 2 years.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 14:18 GMT)

@jb633 on (January 26, 2014, 17:46 GMT) hello. I'm not sure if you were meant to be responding to me or not. On my post I said that these global franchises would only likely be interested in Morgan and Jos from this England ODI side. KP is not in the side so I didn't include him. I agree that IPL probably does him good but let's not forget that it's KP who moaned about the schedule and I guess the series he plays/does not play for Eng were agreed between the 2 parties up front. From Eng's POV I suppose if he's playing such a limited amount of cricket they'll want that limited cricketing time to be for England.

Posted by salazar555 on (January 27, 2014, 14:18 GMT)


You're absolutely right. 2 runs off 20 balls pretty much says it all. He managed to run Bresnan out and drop a simple catch during the match too. The amount of pressure he puts on the man down the other end is unreal. He's suppose to be a finisher but he never finishes a game. His record during this series was poor and his record throughout his career is poor. If he keeps getting picked then England will keep losing

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 14:17 GMT)

@Chris_P - Hello bud. Are you now top of the rankings again? I think I'm more disappointed in the fact that we are so rigid (in both formats) and even with the players we have selected we could do better if they were used properly. The frustrating thing is that we rarely learn from our mistakes. I think Australian franchises rate some of our SF specialists more than our selectors do. Luke Wright (had a bad game today) has had a decent tourn with MS and Buttler (while not great for ST) was shown thw side had confidence in him by batting him at 3. Re Bopara - it looked not out to me from the angles I saw but I'm not going to make a song and dance about it. I would not have backed him to see us through anyway - he was lucky when he hoiked a ball into no mans land when he was on 2. However re benefit of the doubt to the batsman - I agree that it doesn't have to but I've found that it usually does

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 14:17 GMT)

@CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 19:35 GMT) I'd probably have picked you up on more but there were so many people I had to put right on other things lol. I wouldn't mind seeing a bolder approach from England and bring Morgan in at 3 anytime after the 1st set of powerplay overs and Buttler anytime after 15 overs. Sure it could mean that we don't have the same finishing quality but if it comes off we would be ahead of the game anyway rather than playing catch up as we so often are. Re Ravi - I would just see how he goes if he bats at 7 or 8 , it may rile him into action and his slow medium bowling is an asset. Maybe Trego could be given a go at his expense. He doesn't have the skill level of Ravi but you will get much more intent/energy from him. Problem is I think you may have to play him in the top 3 to get the nest from him

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 14:16 GMT)

@Jono Makim - ctd - And even at the end when it was slightly over a run a ball he was taking singles and relying on our bowlers fresh in on a tough pitch to be able to keep rotating the strike. If it took him (supposed to be a specialist batsman 19 balls to get 2 runs how can he expect bowlers to score at a run a ball from the off? I know it was a tough pitch but an international OD batsman should at least be at a SR of 50 after 15/20 balls . IMO if he had got out 1st ball he'd have done less harm to the side's chances

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 14:13 GMT)

@Jono Makim - I felt that Bopara started the rot. If I was harsh I could say Morgan started the rot for getting out in order for Bopara to come in but I think our side has been overreliant on him and Buttler to get us competitive scores. But Bopara was the worst. IMO his lack of any sort of urgency contributed massively to our downfall. I believe it contributed to Root's false shot as Ravi had totally dried up the flow of runs and I reckon secretly Jos wasn't too confident in Ravi which led to him playing a silly shot - although he is better that that. He was lucky not to get out after scoring 2 in (I think) his 20th ball when he played a desperate shot and then he managed to run out Bres - not to mention the incident when he was ball watching on a Bres call.

Posted by dreamliner on (January 27, 2014, 12:09 GMT)

Was fully expecting Ravi to take us home but instead he plays 2 runs off 20 balls putting the pressure squarely on his partners at the crease, and then holing out. This shows either incompetence or an unwillingness to take on the responsibility. He has played over 100 matches at an average of 31 and strike rate under 80. As CodandChips states, he's 'done the Hokey Cokey (in and out the side) on a pogo stick (up and down the order) but his record is still poor. Also he always seems to let us down when chasing, eg Sri Lanka inWC 2007, India at Lords 2011, CT13 final. exception of course in Dublin'.

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (January 27, 2014, 11:38 GMT)

The way some people are carrying on, you would think that the "stumping" was the sole reason for England's loss. Lets face it. There were six other wickets that fell for not many runs. Unusual stumpings did not play a part in any of those. If the rest of the team had played a stronger part, then Bopara's stumping would not have caused so much consternation and grief.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 27, 2014, 11:20 GMT)

I agree with LandL47 that Aus had the better of luck (all summer actually). But I always thought AUS were in with a shot, even with 7 wickets needed and about 75 runs needed by Eng. I didn't watch the first innings, so didn't realise it was a sticky wicket. But once that became obvious to me, I felt Aus could win. Why? Well, nobody scored at 6 runs an over for any decent period in the whole game, and that's what England needed even with seven wickets in hand. Australia chose the right bowling unit for this game, and that was a key factor. They would have lost with the quicker Pattinson and maybe even Johnson.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 10:51 GMT)

@JG2704, I think that goes for the whole English team right now... or the most of it at least, all of the batsmen look to be caught in two minds, not quite sure how to go about building an innings and in turn winning matches. Only really Morgan looks to be 100% sure about his game and game plan. Pretty poor odi pitch last night too, made everyone look ordinary at times.

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 27, 2014, 10:27 GMT)

All this talk of England being hard done by really gets my goat. They won 3 ashes series largely because of poor umpiring, yet seem to want it all their own way, all the time. Unbelievable!

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 27, 2014, 10:19 GMT)

@ Samdanh on (January 27, 2014, 10:04 GMT) Winning always clouds your judgement, I am just hoping the Saffers have won enough.

Posted by Samdanh on (January 27, 2014, 10:04 GMT)

Just like the Ashes series victories in Eng clouded the inherent weaknesses of the Engalnd team, Aus team weaknesses are likely to ignored, swept under the carpet, while preparing for the next series, based on the extent of success Aus have met with in the just concluded Tests and ODIs. Batting continues to be fragile, and spin bowling without the next most proven/best potential understudy, who can quickly replace Lyon should there be an injury or illness, God forbid though, are in my opinion, grey areas. Aus team management needs to more proactive now than when in doldrums. Else, they could fall into a rut very soon, and lessons learnt earlier will be of no use.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 9:56 GMT)

@Jono Makim on (January 27, 2014, 1:41 GMT) I've never been against Ravi being in the side but I'm starting to think he may be the most selfish batsman we have. His initial 2 off 20 (only relieved by a hoik which could have gone anywhere) pushed the RRR up and invited huge pressure. Then he called Bres through for a run which was not on and it was Broad and Bres's boundaries which temporarily relieved the pressure and Ravi is supposed to be the batsman. An over or 2 before the Bres run out Bres hit the ball back past the bowler and called a perfectly safe run and Ravi was fixed to the crease looking behind him at where the ball was going. His skill level is there but his mindset is not. His bowling is definitely an asset but I'm pretty sure any Aus fan would lambast a player who played like Ravi did yesterday if he played similarly for Aus

Posted by JG2704 on (January 27, 2014, 9:56 GMT)

@InsideHedge - Shah and Bopara remind me so much of each other in that they both have days when they're on fire but much of the time they drift through games. Bopara does have his bowling (which I think in SFs is his most valuable asset) which Shah doesn't have . Re KP - I think most of us appreciate him but don't necessarily bow down to him and give criticism when we think it's due. Problem is that he probably had equal say as to what series he plays for England but the selectors get the full flack for not selecting him.

@wapuser - I presume Chris_P was talking about the ODI series as that's what this thread is supposed to be related to and yes Australia won 4-1 which on paper is a thrashing but 2 of the games England were on top of so it was more competitive than the scoreline suggested just like the English leg of the Ashes was

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 27, 2014, 9:24 GMT)

@Harmony..... until some of the sub continent nations start pulling their weight and start supplying umpires.... although there is a conspiracy theory.... (Sri Lankan third umpire) , you have to put up with what you've got. with such incompetence, I would have thought you would be all for DRS.

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (January 27, 2014, 9:17 GMT)

@Harmony111 - Good Lord, mate, are you just not going to let this go? All your busy fine print is all completely for nought because he was given out by a professional who knows how to apply cricket regs better than you & who was in a better position than you to judge it.

Like I said, & I'll repeat, you get as many poor/wrong/bad/close decisions go your way as against you over time.

That's life, accept it.

Now Watson WAS out, though. Every bloody time the pill hits his pads it's LBW. (Just had to bash the bloke one more time.)

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (January 27, 2014, 9:03 GMT)

Well, I've never read so much blather about 'luck' in me life.

Luck - as if it's fairy dust sprinkled by mischievous unseen forces in order to press an advantage or take it away.

Give us all a break & be gracious losers. Everyone loses, just depends on the day.

Over a lifetime, you get about the same amount of good luck & bad luck, if I must use the term.

BTW - Bopara was OUT, stop debating it. The umps make a call, that's the end of it. Bail was partly dislodged while BP's foot was aloft, bail never relodged but fell away completely - so OUT.

Move on.

Oh, to the Indian bloke who said he'd take Watto for his team. He's yours, mate.

Posted by NormalServiceResumed on (January 27, 2014, 8:58 GMT)


Law 28 refers to 'disturbance of a bail'. Cases are well documented of a bail lifting out of the grooves and either falling back into the grooves or landing on the wicket firmly balanced on top of one or more stumps. Hence the process of removal cannot be considered as complete until the bail has either fallen below the level of the top of the stumps or moved horizontally to a point no longer vertically above them. The wicket is put down as soon as a bail leaves the grooves and the position of the batsman is to be judged at that point. However, if anything such as falling back into a groove terminates the removal process before it is complete, it will be considered never to have begun. The wicket will not have been put down.

So in this case the decision was correct.

@Paul Rone-Clarke, you can clearly see a player appealing:

Posted by Hatter_Mad on (January 27, 2014, 8:57 GMT)

Wow, fortune favours the brave and Australia will know that the win was lucky, lucky, lucky (as Kylie might say).

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 27, 2014, 8:56 GMT)

@Drew Foster:

Indeed the bail did come off completely cos it fell down but no, there was no point at which the bail was completely off BEFORE Bopara could get back on ground.


And when did I say Jadeja was not-out? How is that relevant here anyways? In any case, there is a difference in a split second decision & a decision taken after watching numerous replays from several angles frame by frame. If you do not know that the bails must be completely off then probably you should read the law 28.1.a first. Pls do it.


I think Shah was a much more fluent player. Bopara seems to be out of ideas to me, a bit like Ishant. Bopara is not elegantly lazy, he is simply a bit dumb. Anybody would have done better than folks like Bopara & Ishant, they add nothing to the team thought I have wud trust Bopara more with the ball than Ishant.

ThePacifist10 wasn't unbiased. He was biased against his own team. He had his facts wrong too. India did defend 130 on a slow track.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 27, 2014, 8:44 GMT)


Nope, it doesn't work that ways. You do not keep going back in time to change what happens in the future. Things have to happen there and then. If the bail is partially dislodged then the batsman is clearly not-out. If he manages to get back in crease then again he is not-out even if by now the bail has fallen down. Point is, at no moment during that entire delivery, the batsman was ever out.

If it is raining & you are in your house you won't be wet. If it is not raining & you are not in your house, you would still not be wet. If you are not in your house, see it is about to rain and rush back to your house before it starts to rain, you would still not be wet. At no point you were not in your house AND it was raining.

So would you ever be wet? I guess not (unless you had a leaky roof :-p).

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 27, 2014, 8:33 GMT)

Some fans here are unaware of the exact law while some know it but are still blatantly lying about it. I can't possibly reply to each & every one of this swarm. For such guys, here is the relevant law for reference.......................

Law 28.1.a:

---"The wicket is put down if a bail is ***COMPLETELY REMOVED*** from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground"---

Some fans here knew what the law is and either couldn't grasp it or were dishonest about it.

When one is unable to interpret even the basic laws or is so dishonest then he/she is beyond hope. I wish such fans all the best. They have my pity.

I challenge any Aussie fan to point out any moment during that delivery where Bopara's foot was in the air AND the bail was completely dislodged. The back view was partial.

No point talking about Ind or Jadeja here. I never said he was not-out. You guys can't defend Bopara's wicket so you want to divert it. Clear signs of being out of defense and nervousness.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 27, 2014, 8:17 GMT)


Yeah, that is what I am saying too buddy. Some of these Aussies do not know what the exact law is, but then they have never cared too much about laws & spirits. The law says the bails must be completely dislodged i.e. both its ends should be out of the grooves. I have been shouting about this here since yesterday but some Aussie fans would just not accept it. Some even said that since Taylor, Healy & Hussey etc said its out so it must be out.


There are two bails on the stumps. You can be out if only one bail is removed but this removal of the bail from its grooves must be complete. Pls read the text above.

Also, pls do not be so ignorant. The laws are one query away. Look them up. If you looked them up & still didn't get it then there's no point in talking. The relevant law is Law 28.1.a --- can you read the word "COMPLETELY REMOVED" there?

Posted by Chris_P on (January 27, 2014, 7:39 GMT)

@Stephen Axtell . Actually@ landl47 has given a pretty fair view of all teams England have played & we have often engaged in cricket discussions. To be honest, I cannot ever recall him bad mouthing other teams so not sure where this is from. If anything, he has more critical of his team than others in the overall context IMHO.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 27, 2014, 7:34 GMT)

@ Macker60, If you read what I wrote I said "for a while"! To be precise, since Australia's domination ending about 2008. Yes, I know rankings determine seedings, but I wrote a term of sustained high performance over a few weeks can see any team win a WC from any position. @wapuser. One series, buddy, this was, btw, the same team who beat India. As I said, you don't lose class in one series, no one said it wasn't a wipeout, just that England are not as bad as the scores made out.. If they were, India would have beaten them last year as well as NZ & Aust over there. I am an Aussie btw, & loved flogging the Poms, but know enough about cricket to know what a good team or player is & this English team have many fine players. Do yourself a favour & try playing a serious game to appreciate it more.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 7:30 GMT)

@ landl47, you were quick to mouth off every team that plays England, exaggerating on Englands so called depth and ridiculing the oppositions team. Face it England choked again and have huge problems, little depth and a system that produces for the most part very average cricketers.

Posted by 0782224536 on (January 27, 2014, 7:25 GMT)

9ice win by Australia team specially James Faulkner'

Posted by Dolci on (January 27, 2014, 7:23 GMT)

Thank god its over. What a boring summer of cricket, it was too one sided. It has been almost as boring as when the Indian team plays here :) England might be down, but they have some good young players and hopefully next time it should be more competitive. I cant wait for the AUS vs SA series, not sure who will win, but suspect it will be close.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 27, 2014, 6:18 GMT)

Landl47; For a sec there I thought you were describing the Ashes series in England but then you mentioned England and I agree it is and apt way t describe this one-day series.

Posted by fine-edge on (January 27, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

@Paul Rone-Clark: "Today no appeal - No shout - No awareness even of the possibility that a wicket had fallen. "

Wade walks away from the stumps on the leg side and takes a couple of steps up the pitch with both his arms outstretched then turns and looks at the square leg ump. Do you really think that neither he nor anybody else said something to the umpire? He only has to ask, and he is away from the stump mic.

Posted by ashu_79lko on (January 27, 2014, 5:45 GMT)

@Natx : Please get ur facts right...the WC QF game between Aus & India was played in Ahmedabad which is a slow & slugiish pitch traditionally... it was the SF between Ind & Pak which was played at Mohali.

Posted by Clyde on (January 27, 2014, 5:20 GMT)

If Australian administrators go in for drop-in pitches then it is just as likely they will sign on to equally bizarre business arrangements. The Adelaide pitch is like a bad bed in a supposedly good hotel: the whole project and all its projected profits can be valued at very little. Since when has a game of cricket not started with the pitch? It is as if these administrators have never played the game, or have forgotten what it is all about. If these people are as enlightened as they think they are, then why don't we have original pitches rather than transplants? Where is all their marvellous big money going to?

Posted by landl47 on (January 27, 2014, 5:04 GMT)

For the second time in this 5-game series, England outplayed Australia for most of the game and managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Really no excuse this time; England were the better side and gave it away.

However, there were some positives in this performance. The bowling was disciplined and Broad, Jordan and Stokes bowled at their best. These are all young players and that bodes well for England. It was also good to see Joe Root get back in the groove. He's a great prospect and although this tour was a bump in the road, he'll use it to improve.

Australia managed to find a way to win, which is a good characteristic to have, but they'll be looking at this game and feeling they were lucky. They won't want to rely on such good fortune in the future.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 4:43 GMT)

England always find a way to lose a comfortably won match.How on earth did they lose from 154/3 when the RR was well under 5/over?? Cook was right when he said that they lost the match because of poor shots and crumbling under pressure. That really sums up their awful tour! kudos to the Aussies for pulling off an incredible victory when all seemed lost while Morgan and Root were at the crease and once again Jimmy proved how crucial he is to this Australian side now back to No.1 in ICC ODI rankings and hopefully they can stay there for as long as possible.Very poor cricket from England and Australia capitalized on that.Next challenge the Proteas and this will be an immense challenge and hoping they are up and ready to go!

Posted by Cricluv97 on (January 27, 2014, 2:52 GMT)

Ohooo.... This is the same eng team which was supposed to be rule the world for atleast 4 yr in 2011 by botham, i wanna ask to botham where is the eng team...infact sl is also better than u..for english media they need only one or two wins to decide that eng is best ...rubbish

Posted by Natx on (January 27, 2014, 2:46 GMT)

@TommyTuckerSaffa: If you are a Aus supporter that is going hard at India on being flat track bullies, why can't your team win the recent ODI series there? Also where were you hiding when India beat Aus in WC quarter finals (in Mohali where Aus typically do well due to the familiar bounce) and in last years champions trophy (it was played in England which is not sub continent)? If you are a SA supporter as your name suggests, the whole world knows your team didn't win any major international tournaments since it's readmission in 1991. At least Indians have won 2 WC's (one wasn't in subcontinent), champion trophy (Eng), T20 (SA), a tri-series and World Series (85) in Aus. Going by the current form Aus looks good for WC 2015, but that doesn't mean the others are bad.

Posted by Insult_2_Injury on (January 27, 2014, 2:32 GMT)

Just to show that a game of cricket doesn't have to have 350 a side, a thousand sixes and fireworks to enthrall cricket fans. Interesting that when the Poms were 3/140 it was noted that a lot of spectators went home. The actual cricket fans stayed and were rewarded with an excellent finish from a game where batsmen, bowlers and fielders all had their moment. Thank you drop in pitch.

Posted by mondotv on (January 27, 2014, 2:06 GMT)

Isn't cricket wonderful/tragic - all this argument over a millisecond in time and the definition of completely removed. If an umpire had given that out or not out 30 years ago or even today in a club game no one would have questioned it. Suddenly everyone's an expert because of 25fps replays on TV - who'd be an umpire? As far as the lack of appeal goes well that is just impossible to tell unless you are on the field. Clearly someone appealed because the umpire went upstairs. I know if I was keeping I would have appealed. I agree Wade's keeping is ordinary but give the bloke some credit he was standing up to someone bowling in the 130's. He couldn't have stumped anyone from 20 metres away. I'm a Tim Paine fan as well but he does keep injuring his fingers which is a bad habit for a keeper. Just ask Ian Healy...

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 1:48 GMT)

Top ten australian cricketer rlight now: 10. Philip hughes( very unlucky, selectors not trusting him but he is the future of CA) 9. Ryan harris(Even he was injured played so well, just imagine if he was injury free how would he play) 8. Steven smith( young cricketer, allrounder, future of CA) 7. Bailey( Best IDI player we have ATM, good captian as well, can play when team is under pressure) 6. Johnson( Test all- rounder, fastest bowler at the moment,Ashes winner, AB medalist) 5. Starc (Very agressive bowler, can score quick run as well, can play all format) 4. Faulkner( good all rounder, Run chaser, good Finisher) 3. Warner( good opner, quick run scorer, can play all format) 2. Watson (all- rounder, can play any format)1. Clarke( Good captian, good test player, IDI player)

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 1:41 GMT)

@Landl47, what were you saying about Faulkners bowling after game 4?

Ravi Bopara must be the unluckiest cricketer on earth to get stumped by Matty Wade, other than that I think he would have taken England home. I see a few England fans here are all out of love for Ravi but for mine he is definitely in England's best xi. Any guys that can perform in the top 6 and get through 5+ overs are a huge commodity. I just think England are missing a trick by not putting him in at the top of the order because he hits over the top well and if he doesn't come off there is always his bowling.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 27, 2014, 1:26 GMT)

You would think the neutral fans who whinge when there is a bad decision and condem DRS to the scrapheap would want better umpiring, but how many umpires does your country have on the elite panel ?

Posted by AidanFX on (January 27, 2014, 0:54 GMT)

Good that small totals are still defended. Interesting since 200ish is a normal large 20/20 score. So that's the end of the international Australian summer of cricket, hey?

Posted by wapuser on (January 27, 2014, 0:17 GMT)

@Chris_P Are you delusional did you watch the same Ashes I just watched? England were annihilated in the Ashes it was more than comprehensive and the scores did reflect Australia's total dominance. And it was actually career ending for Swann and more than likely KP, Prior and Trott. So yeah they did lose a lot of quality overnight. The only positive England can take from the series is the emergence of the feisty Kiwi Ben Stokes!

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 0:15 GMT)

the way England has let this match slip, is literally horrendous, and sadly this team claims to be the one of the so called elites. A team that never could win the world cup, should never be called a major force in cricket. They lost to Bangladesh in the last world cup, and was lucky to get through the group, they were inconsistent and at times awful to watch. On the other hand, India the so called supreme power of cricket who should be named, famed and shamed for their role in cursing the great game with spot fixing, match fixing and all those corruptions is getting overpowered by NZ, the team who just got whitewashed in Bangladesh by Bangladesh. To add to that this cricketing apparently supreme nation has been outdone by the cricketing minnows Bangladesh on two major occasions. It makes me wonder how this beautiful cricket is ruined by these three cricketing nations, specially India and England. They have made this game all about money, shame !!!

Posted by Grimsby on (January 27, 2014, 0:08 GMT)

And so ends one of the most embarrassing tours in the history of cricket.

Posted by Macker60 on (January 26, 2014, 23:52 GMT)

Chris_P, You need to remember the role the ranking play in the World Cup and were the world cup is played. As For sustained periods of domination, Should check out the History of the game.

Posted by Orsoncarte on (January 26, 2014, 23:15 GMT)

I keep reading that there is nothing in the laws of cricket about batsmen being given the benefit of the doubt. Law 27 (Appeals) clause 6 (consultation by umpires) clearly states "If, after consultation, there is still doubt remaining, the decision shall be Not out." If that isn't benefit of the doubt, I don't know what is. Perhaps "benefit of the doubt" isn't written in those words, but it is definitely there in the laws. It is commonly claimed by commentators that benefit of the doubt doesn't appear in The Laws of Cricket, but it's identical twin brother does. A few people should take the time to actually read the Laws before they make comment on them.

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 26, 2014, 23:14 GMT)

Agree, NZ are a much better side than 8th

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 26, 2014, 22:32 GMT)

Did you actually read what I wrote Dishant Sangar? I pointed out that no team batting second won at Cardiff in the five games played there. The wicket was incredibly slow, and got harder as each game went on. As for bei g jealous of India, "jealous" is a misrepresentation. I think "resentment" is a fairer word. I am quite open about the fact that I do not like the way he BCCI is influencing ing the game, nor the way policies and match conditions are repeatedly manipulated to favour India. For example, how did dry, cracked wickets suddenly show up for India in the tests vs SA recently? All recent teams touring SA have been greeted with lively, grassy wickets. Why the change in policy? I'll let you ponder that one.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 26, 2014, 22:31 GMT)

Yes that is how the law is written Lord_Mac with one end if the stump that has been completely removed from thestumps ie the stumps are no longer complete and have been broken. If the bail lodges back in then it is deemed the stumps are not broken but as the stumps are broken the moment they are deemed broken is when it is lifted from the stumps.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 22:21 GMT)

England pressed self-destruction button

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 26, 2014, 22:21 GMT)

@paul robe Clark: the umpires won a game for Australia did they? I suggest you watch the last few ashes series England won and count the amount of times aus were given terrible decisions that decided the series. If I was you, I'd be very quiet from now on.

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 26, 2014, 22:14 GMT)

@chris_p: well said. The only difference here is this ashes series would not have been influenced by bad umpiring decisions. The same cannot be said of the 05, 09 or even the 13 one in England. Had correct decisions been given (for both sides) we'd have seen very different results in 05 and 09 and a 50/50 contest in 13.

Posted by Mintsweety on (January 26, 2014, 22:08 GMT)

Great performance by Australia, just squeezed the life out of England and forced the mistakes. Can't believe the comments on bropara not being out...that's about as out as it gets. Very clear decision...even Ravi was all set to walk off.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 21:34 GMT)

Falkner, maxwell, and finch are good finds for AUS. these 3 along with warner, watson, baily, johnson, and clark AUS will dominate in the ODI cricket for the next 7-10 years.

Posted by DragonCricketer on (January 26, 2014, 21:33 GMT)

Wade sometimes makes me think that he is batting for his spot. After all he has got Paine & Neville hot on his heels. All wanting the No.2 keeper job to be in position to takeover Haddin within next 2 years.

Posted by Leggie on (January 26, 2014, 21:17 GMT)

@Lord_Mac: Agree with you. I was flabbergasted the way the Aussie commentators started celebrating that Ravi Bopara stumping as as "OUT" with an evidence that was rarely conclusive. While I'm certain that the third umpire has no access to what the others/commentators are saying.., I got this funny feeling that he went for a "popular" decision. Anyways, given Ravi Bopara's record in letting his team down in chases, he might have still nicked the next one.., but this bad decision left a bad taste in the mouth.

Posted by Rebel_Who_Follows_All_The_Rules on (January 26, 2014, 21:09 GMT)

@TommyTuckerSaffa: Have conveniently forgotten the Champions Trophy victory have we?? Also add to that, the fact that India are the current world champs??? Btw, what did SA do in these two tournaments??? You know, apart from the epic CHOKE JOBS that they seem to specialize in!!!

Posted by Patchmaster on (January 26, 2014, 21:02 GMT)

As usual, Cook's lethargic and 'safety first' captaincy, couple with Bopara's ever growing record of been the worlds worst finisher, who bats in a finishers position............means ENG lose another match they should have won....sigh.....

Posted by disco_bob on (January 26, 2014, 21:00 GMT)

@Louey on (January 26, 2014, 13:17 GMT), you only have to have the ball in your hand if you take the bails off WITH your hand.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 26, 2014, 20:55 GMT)

The biggest disappointment from an English perspective of this tour to Australia is that the hard work put in over the last 5 years to get to number 1 in all 3 formats and winning in India etc has been somewhat devalued, not so much the teams reputation but individuals, should be interesting in 10 years if to see if Anderson Trott Swann and co are talked about with the respect they deserve or was this the period dominated by the Saffers only.

Posted by Rowayton on (January 26, 2014, 20:45 GMT)

Chris P (and sorry for not getting your name exactly right - how do you do underscores on an iPad?), I agree there is no benefit of the doubt rule. However, the way I look at it when umpiring is Howzat means is the batsman out? If you are certain you give him out, otherwise it's no, so benefit of the doubt does sort of apply. And you're right, umpiring ain't that easy. I spent 90 overs on Saturday on a pitch that was keeping low with bowlers bowling stump to stump - the concentration required is quite enervating.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 26, 2014, 20:44 GMT)

Any chance of getting Watto Indian citizenship? Add KP to that list while you're at it. Since fans of Oz and Eng are less than appreciative of these two talents, we could use these two.

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 26, 2014, 20:43 GMT)

Well, it's finally over, I bet Cook is relieved to be going home. At least, Eng got one win in there so it wasn't quite a perfect summer for the Aussies. Just as well, they have something to aim for the next time Eng visit!

What more can we say about Ravi "Confused Indian" Bopara? There he was the other day giving his backing to Cook in an interview. He ought to stay well away from interviews and figure out what he needs to do to break this jinx he's got over him. Unlike say, Owais Shah or a couple of other Asian origin England players, Bops has been given loads of chances.

It's the advantage you get when you play for a county from the South East. Those not familiar with England won't understand but Aussie fans can relate viz NSW players getting a free ticket. In Eng, if you play for Middx, Surrey or Essex, you get an extra long rope.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 20:37 GMT)

@ Sometimes what is "obvious" is also wrong. An umpire not giving a decision on a bowled is down to the batter walking. By rights the umpire should still raise the finger and IF the batter stands his ground then there has to be an appeal.

If there is no appeal then the batter is not out - whether the stumps are scattered to the four winds or not. Most of the time the batter walks and someone from the fielding side screams something or other that could be construed as an appeal.

Today no appeal - No shout - No awareness even of the possibility that a wicket had fallen. Camera showed pretty clearly what happened from the standing umpires POV.

The SL umpire told the standing umpire that the bails had fallen and the standing umpire WRONGLY took an un-appealed method of dismissal for referral and in doing so broke the laws of the game Sometimes what seems "obvious" is wrong.

It's not up to the umpire to appeal - it's up to the fielding side.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 26, 2014, 20:33 GMT)

now with only the money raising T20's left I would like to thank the English team and their supporters for this summers cricket, although very one sided, unfortunately this seems to be the way series go nowadays, on the plus side for England is the emergence of Stokes and some of the young blokes in the ODI team. the good and bad thing about cricket is that a series on it's own does not mean much (except ratings) so you are only as good as your last series, so good luck until we meet again. long live test cricket, long live the ashes.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 19:35 GMT)

@JG2704 Surprised you only picked me up on Ballance over Bopara, and nothing more.

I don't think Ravi should play any more for England. He's played over 100 matches at an average of 31 and strike rate under 80. Yes he's done the Hokey Cokey (in and out the side) on a pogo stick (up and down the order) but his record is still poor. Also he always seems to let us down when chasing, eg Sri Lanka inWC 2007, India at Lords 2011, CT13 final. exception of course in Dublin.

Balance hasn't been great but has only played a few matches. Give him a chance. At 5/6, he could just free up.

Agree that rigidity in the batting order should go. If we lose our first wicket after 30 overs, send in Morgan/Buttler.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 26, 2014, 19:33 GMT)

@ TommytuckerSaffa. While attaining #1 ranking might get you some bragging rights, in reality it means little, for any team ranked from 10 up can get a run & win a World Cup. These games should be played with viewing players who are most likely to deliver efforts to win important events such as the WC. On any given day, any team can get beaten, sustained periods of domination, in the short form, hasn't been achieved for a while to be labelled an undisputed team although your examples show the folly of using rankings to determine why your team should always win! #8 NZ beating #1 India? Does anyone really believe NZ was a worthy #8?

Posted by Chris_P on (January 26, 2014, 19:27 GMT)

@Lord_mac. We'll agree to disagree. I thought there was enough evidence to show it was out, obviously the man who counts also did. There is nothing, & I mean nothing written where the benefit of the doubt goes to the batsmen, not the bowler. The official is there to make a decision, & he did. The players & the followers should learn to live with decisions. Anyone is quite welcome to get accredited to umpiring, belive me, it is much more difficult than most people think.

Posted by Lord_mac on (January 26, 2014, 19:12 GMT)

>Harmony111; The law states only one end of the bail has to be dislodged so once again you are wrong.<

No it doesn't - at least look up the laws before you comment.

***************************************************** LAW 28 (THE WICKET IS DOWN) 1. Wicket put down (a) The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground, *****************************************************

It was too close to call and should have been given not out. But it shouldn't have mattered of course - Morgan and Root are the most culpable, as they decided to take risks in the Power Play when they didn't need to. For all Bopara's failings, he shouldn't have been placed in that position. The established batsman/men should have taken responsibility to see England home at a canter.

Posted by Cricfever_PM on (January 26, 2014, 18:35 GMT)

I Thought people talking about Eng & Aus performance but still few can't keep away by poking Indian players performance, grow up you people even your team not winning anything in abroad!!! I am not here to justify anybody but you accept the reality that your both the teams are worst then in Indian team in abroad! We won CT in England!! Proud of It.

Posted by salazar555 on (January 26, 2014, 18:31 GMT)

They'll never win anything with Bopara. The guy is a liability. 2 runs off 20 balls forcing the man at the other end to play the huge shot. Dropped a simple catch at the beginning of the day and is bowling is never going to trouble anyone.

He's a liability and the quicker England drop him from the side the quicker they'll start winning games

Posted by caldruid on (January 26, 2014, 18:13 GMT)


You are right about the no1 ranking being subject to scrutiny. After a lot of the aging players retired/were benched following the 2011 WC, and the current crop of Indian players are not enough team to be ranked #1. Maybe #3 or #4 but not #1. A lot of the Indian fans are delusional and don't accept that the opposition is more talented ( be it SA or NZ ). The Aus team were in a similar state till 1 or 2 years ago but are peaking now. Unless India play more consistently in the next 12 months, I can see the following 4 in the 2015WC semifinals: Aus, SA, NZ, Pak.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 26, 2014, 18:10 GMT)

@JG2704 While understanding the disappointment you feel (having been through the same phase) remember 2 things, 1} these games are just another ODI that will be soon forgotten (I didn't do handstands after we won 6-1 last series here or even when we won over there) & 2} England didn't get flogged or owned, had a couple of close games they lost critical moments that resulted in defeat. Even your test team, although it was comprehensive result, are not as bad as the scores showed, you don't lose quality in such a short period.

Posted by on (January 26, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

Posted by Paul Rone-Clarke - No appeal = not out WHO APPEALED? No one that I saw.

Let's face it. The cameras didn't show every player at once, like you said - no one that YOU saw.

It just takes a polite, "Howzat" to constitute an appeal. I'd be very surprised if the the bails were off after the batsman played at the ball and NO ONE appealed.

Players from around the field may well have thought Bopara was bowled or stumped or even hit his own wicket.. I'm sure someone would have enquired of the umpire just exactly what had happened by a 'howzat' as to those players it wouldn't have been obvious what had happened.

I can tell you, I have seen many a bloke cleaned bowled an no appeal as such has been given. It's just obvious.

Even obvious catches 'might' get a "you bloody beauty" or a yell of delight but no obvious appeal.

Sorry for all the obvious's, if that's a word.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 17:54 GMT)

@alipk52- Now where did SL come into picture with SA n Australia. They are no where near. Pakistan, SL n India always row in the same boat.. No one is a clear winner among them at this point..

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 26, 2014, 17:52 GMT)

Congrats to Australia, deserved No.1 team in ODIs. Lets be honest, far more deserving than Team India who got to no.1 by playing home games on flat tracks and then weak opposition in Zimbabwe and the Windies overseas.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

@ Paul Rone-Clarke on (January 26, 2014, 14:52 GMT) I think I heard the English commentators say that Wade appealed. It could have been the vaguest of appeals (to cover his fumble) and the umpires have to look at it. I didn't see a view where it conclusively looked out but others said they did. If it had been Morgan or Buttler I'd have called that a turning point but being Bopara I'd say Aus would have won anyway

Posted by Ragav999 on (January 26, 2014, 17:32 GMT)

@PrasPunter: Who do you think are the best 5 ODI bowlers in Australia presently? I am as confused after watching the performances of the Aussie bowlers in the last couple of years as any other. Doherty sometimes bowls brilliantly, McKay's record is exceptional but looks ordinary when he trundles and puffs out his breath in slog overs. I am not sure whether McKay's poor performance in India was one of his rare bad patches or if that is an indication that he will struggle against quality aggressive limited overs batsmen. Mitchell Johnson has a fantastic record but after playing in the Tests with a different mindset, I wonder if it is prudent to play him again in limited overs frequently. With all the new field restrictions, it is difficult for a bowler to switch between Tests and ODI's and perform at the highest level.

An option is to just treat the ODI as a one innings test match when we are fielding and have a full tilt at opposing batsmen to get them all out with attacking fields.

Posted by harshthakor on (January 26, 2014, 17:07 GMT)

There could never be a better illustration of the fact that in cricket there are times when the tide is simply against you .England were cruising home before a flurry of wickets but still fought back tenaciously only to lose the plot at the end.Bopara's dismissal was freak and arguably cost England the game.

The result of the series could well have been 3-2 in favour of England if they had that crucial element of luck.They came within a whisker of winning 2 of the 4 games they lost.The final game proved how much temperament,drive and presence of mind are the vital ingredients of a winning team.Inspite of playing the marginally better cricket the pommies faltered at the brink.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 17:03 GMT)

Lets face it, it was one of those games where either team could've won. A bit of luck decided the outcome. I do want to support what others have said in that it is very good to have wicket that supports bowling and not the usual 300+ bashathon.

Posted by balajik2505 on (January 26, 2014, 16:54 GMT)

I was alternating this match and the OZ Open final. At around 40 overs, I thought England was well placed. Just work the ball around, rotate the strike, 3-2 or so I thought, and tuned out to watch the tennis. I tuned back in at the end and was shocked to see England deep in a hole. I will not comment on the merits of the Bopara decision; it was amusing that a keeping mistake led to a wicket. What went wrong; maybe Clarke closed the shot making areas; maybe the bowlers bowled to the field. But still if you put some fielders somewhere gaps open up elsewhere. This was England's match to lose, and boy did they contrive to lose it.

Posted by popcorn on (January 26, 2014, 16:35 GMT)

We will savour THIs Victory as the BEST of the Four we won. To defend 217 has shown Determination, Self Belief, a Never -Say - Die attitude that will do wonders for our Self Confidence. And with the most tactically brilliant Captain EVER, Michael Clarke,NOTHING will stop usd from staying at Number One!

Posted by alipk52 on (January 26, 2014, 15:48 GMT)

Today at this time there are 3 deserving number 1 rankings in world in all 3 formats, Australia in ODI, South Africa in Tests, Sri Lanka in T20s, Only South Africa and Sri Lanka are the other teams that can compete for number one spot, and if Pakistan sometime around find couple of batsman like Inzi/Yousuf, They would be another, I want Mohammed Amir back, Then it'll be M.Irfan, Junnaid khan and M.Aamir pace attack, Saeed Ajmal, Hafeez and Afridi Spinners, Devastating bowling lineup really!

Posted by on (January 26, 2014, 15:42 GMT)

Posted by Thefakebook --- So Wade's fumble actually help OZ win for a change? Tim Paine may not get in the team any time soon cause there are a lot more fumbles left in Wade

I hear you.

I do not wish any disrespect to Wade as he doesn't select himself. He gets the nod and plays - fair enough. I'm sure he does his best each and every match he plays in.

It's why he gets the nod that is hard to understand. The selectors have seen over and over how he performs - badly. Hoping he will come good just isn't going to happen, not for a couple of years at least - if ever.

Since his dumping, after some of the worse keeping I've ever seen, for Haddins' return I see no improvement in him.

I have tried to think of a wicket keeper that I've seen that is constantly as poor as Wade and I'm stumped - excuse the pun.

Wayne Phillips had some bad days but he was a stop gap keeper. Kamran Akmal had some bad days as well.

Most recently, Matt Prior had some shocking days and virtually sacked himself.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 14:52 GMT)

No appeal = not out. An umpire only answers an appeal. If no-one appeals then the umpire has no right to give any decision. That's been in the laws of the game since 1912 - 102 years

Seen lots if instances where LBW's would have been given but no appeal. Where if fielding sides would have DRS reviewed a not out it would have been out. Inside edges to short leg were not appealed umpire stayed quiet.

One where John Holder walked up to the bowler after handing him his jumper at the end of the over and just saying" If you'd appealed on the 4th ball - I'd have given it - didn't you see the edge?"

In the mid 90's where Cork put his bails back on in a test match against WI. Square leg knew it was out but had no RIGHT to say anything because the law CLEARLY STATES a decision is ONLY given in RESPONSE TO AN APPEAL.

No appeal = not out WHO APPEALED? No one that I saw. Did the umpire PROMPT an appeal or refer to 3rd umpire without appeal? Both those actions are against the laws of the game

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 14:45 GMT)

@Big Boodha, ha ha ha, what a joke!!!! In CT 2013 India batted 2nd three times of the five games they played. Your comments just shows jealousy for subcontinental countries and especially team INDIA.....

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 14:40 GMT)

Bopara was playing for the last over. Clarke had miscounted (I guess) and Watson or Maxwell would have had to bowl the last over. Bopara was unfortunate in that the stumping was accidental and it wasn't, IMO, out - I didn't see a bail removed when the foot was up (as opposed to disturbed). But England threw it away anyway, even without that, and we might well not have won anyway.

Posted by Diaz54 on (January 26, 2014, 14:37 GMT)

Keep playing cricket between yourselves and maintain the high standard ECB, ACB and BCCI want,!! Common on SA can't wait for your guys to do them in.

Posted by zexmanoz on (January 26, 2014, 14:30 GMT)

Bopara is the reason why england looses..he should be out of team....

Posted by Thefakebook on (January 26, 2014, 14:30 GMT)

So Wade's fumble actually help OZ win for a change?Damn Tim Paine may not get in the team any time soon cause there are a lot more fumbles left in Wade!

Posted by Jagger on (January 26, 2014, 14:27 GMT)

Faulkner, Coulter-Nile and McKay were quick to adjust to the conditions and bowled brilliantly.

The inclusion of Watson in our side dictates the team balance and the personnel selected. He promises the world yet rarely delivers. We cannot win the World Cup with him in it.

Frankly, there is no worthwhile argument for Doherty in the ODI's. None whatsoever. The variety he provides does not trade well with the number 11 batting position and inability to take wickets. Doherty is a false economy.

Posted by BounceTrack_BULLY on (January 26, 2014, 14:12 GMT)

Poor England team, back to losing momentum.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 14:09 GMT)

Can we just clear up this bail off issue once and for all? Law 28 states "The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps." Note the word COMPLETELY. @drew foster, don't believe all the rubbish spouted by ex-players; most of them talk drivel. Anyway, if Bopara had not been given out, we'd have lost by more than 5 runs.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:58 GMT)

@Louey If it wasn't a stumping it would be a run out... Either way, he would've been out.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:56 GMT)

@CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 13:19 GMT) I still say try Bopara as far down as 7 or even 8. I think that would hurt his pride and could bring out some fire/determination in him. Obviously it could go the other way and he could sulkily play at a pedestrian pace in which case you drop him totally. For me his attitude/mindset is the problem more than anything technical. It might just wake him up. Still not overly convinced by Ballance. On decent batting tracks his SR was only around the 70 mark which is pretty poor esp when you're only averaging 33. His SR is only 1 more than Bopara and while his average is higher a higher average with a low SR can be worse as it means there is more to do for others to create a competitive score. I think the think to do with the side we have (whoever is in it) is to not have a rigid line up but to put players up/down the order in accordance with the state of the game and the conditions ...

Posted by bobrandle22 on (January 26, 2014, 13:54 GMT)

Buy a ticket Australia, England found a way to lose again. Bopara only had to score singles early on, take pressure off himself & Morgan, Buttler..

Posted by imtiazjaleel on (January 26, 2014, 13:47 GMT)

BOPARA is very bad finisher, so many times he let down ENG from winning positions. He is not mentally strong. they need to find some better players who can finish the games apart from Eoin Morgan.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:46 GMT)

Well England's worries continued with that poor performance.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:45 GMT)

Hi, Electric what are you talking. Your team is second string. You narrowly missed being beaten. The ODI and T20 results do not give a fair idea of a superior side. Your side lost to Bangladesh with all the suoer heroes captained by Ponting. In the last match Mitchell Guy Johnson was hammered 72 runs from 10 overs at 7.2 and it was said he improved his bowling after IPL. You suffered 3 times series losses and now you have won. Dont be over the moon. You can fall from the pedestal. Besides your test team is no great shakes. England could not consolidate their early success in all the 5 matches. I do not think Pup is a great captain who does not ask opponents to bat even after a lead of 409 run. If it was a walk over why he had to hit over 500 and ask them to bat. After the hiding in Calcutta where VVSL made 281, no Aussie Capt has shown the guts to give follow on. Mitchell Johnson did intimidatory bowling and Boofy, Allan Border and Ian Chappell gave blessings.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:38 GMT)

@PACERONE on (January 26, 2014, 13:01 GMT) Bopara - as I'm sure many Eng fans will agree - has done this sort of thing time and again with the bat. I agree that he often does a useful job with the ball but with the bat he had a SR of around 10 after about 20 balls and around that period he hoiked a ball in desperation which nearly cost his wicket and coincidentally he took Eng from a position of ascendancy to a position of extreme pressure. Any world class batsman should be at least going at a SR of 50 after 20 balls esp in that situation. You could certainly attach blame to others but Bopara did more to help create pressure than any Eng batsman - it could be said more than any Aus bowler

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:23 GMT)

@jackiethepen on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT) I've not seen the squad for WI - Please post me a link. I'm not going to give Giles too much blame for this and I wont give him credit for picking less test players as it stands as I see him more as a Flower supervisor. I don't see that much different in the way we play tests compared to the way we play ODIs and if the squad has less test players then IMO it's because Flower wants them rested so Giles has to go elsewhere. I see the same formulated , rigid , defensive mindset it ODIs as I do in tests which is fine when it's working but there are times when teams in any sport have to change a little if they want to get on top of a game on a fairly level playing field. Eng don't do that

Posted by CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

And so for West Indies: 1.Hales 2.Moeen Ali 3.Taylor 4.Morgan 5.Ballance 6.Buttler 7&8 (2 out of Woakes/Stokes/Borthwick) 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs/Topley. Other reserves Vince and Davies.

Hales to bat like in T20Is- averages more than most of the ODI side. Ali to bowl a bit and bat through and play some shots. Taylor to bat through and agress at the end. Ballance may enjoy more freedom. Buttler can bat higher when required. Topley has impressed me on sky. Briggs deserves a go.

Don't worry. Come the summer, bring back Root, Pietersen, Anderson and Finn if possible. Just select the better performers from this series in the ODI side. Wouldn't mind a look at Willey when fit.

Reckon the Bopara stumping was out.

Giles' place under threat. Arguably Giles White of Hants or the guy at Somerset or Mick Newell of Notts are more deserving, as they've had repeated limited overs success with their counties. Ashley Giles had 1 good season with Warwickshire

Posted by Louey on (January 26, 2014, 13:17 GMT)

Wade's keeping is still atrocious, and he gets credited with a stumping in which he played no part. He messed up yet again. Amazing. I obviously don't know the rule, cause I thought you had to have the ball in your hand to take off the bails for it to be called a stumping. I'll have to look up the rule book.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 13:16 GMT)

Australia have a good group of players for the world cup. Will be dangerous. Faulkner looks a tille like Jade Dernbach though

But for England- a radical change is needed in ODIs. We have won 1 series since South Africa. In the champions trophy, the only matches we won were against Australia- who were there for the taking, New Zealand in a T20, and South Africa missing Kallis, Smith, Morkel and Steyn.

Bopara, Bresnan, Rankin should have all played their last ever matches for England in any format. Bopara especially- he is a finisher who can't finish games, and a batsman who can't bat. Average of 30. Always gets out in chases (bar Dublin).

New approach needed at the top. We almost never score 300. Cook and Bell need to focus on rebuilding the test team.

Morgan to captain. Strong leader, tactically decent, and automatic selection. No burden of test cricket either on him.

Stokes has struggled but would be worth another go. Not at 3 mind. Root needs a proper rest

Posted by wapuser on (January 26, 2014, 13:14 GMT)

Ben stokes dissmissal was outrageous! It was too much fr Bopara in a pitch which offered nthng to the batsman. Plus it was slopy wrk frm Bell opening the innings!

Posted by tom120 on (January 26, 2014, 13:14 GMT)

@ Harmony111 I don't think it was the most atrocious decision. Yesterday, when Jadeja was clearly out and given not out by the umpire that was the most atrocious decision ever. And, bail doesn't have to be completely gone off to be given out. It was clearly seen that his foot was in the air. India makes look feeble NZ side very strong that is eve more atrocious.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

@wapuser on (January 26, 2014, 12:06 GMT) Both those players were rested and not dropped. KP openly said he found the schedule too demanding these days so my guess is that his input was hugely influential. I think RTD last played for Holland in 2010 or 2011. I'm not sure if the reason behind him not playing for Holland is that he's aiming to qualify for England. Would certainly improve our batting in the middle order and mean that there isn't so much emphasis on Jos and Morgan re the RR and either mean that Jos goes up the order or that he's not under so much pressure everytime he comes to the crease as the RR would likely be better

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:09 GMT)

@jb633 on (January 26, 2014, 12:03 GMT) To be fair , I've seen other teams choke but not as often as England. I think the problem is that these guys (Root and Bopara) have the strokes but not the mindset (with Root right now and Bopara seems a permanent thing). But I think our approach to T20 (with the T20 players) is better than our ODIs. I think the other thing you have to consider is how many of the T20 leagues would be interested in the sort of players who need to improve their SRs? Bopara and Buttler played the BBL and my opinion is that one will receive future offers in abundance while the other will have a much emptier diary. IPL franchises will only be interested in players they see performing in shorter formats. For me the only players from this ODI side they'll possibly be interested in are Morgan and Buttler

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:09 GMT)

England should have won that game.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 26, 2014, 13:09 GMT)

@wapuser- well, 'fortune' has been part of our great game since more than 100 years- or much more- and is 1 reason it is the 'glorious' game ,the game of 'uncertainties' and the game we all love this much. Well all teams -right from the street,club,school team to the greatest 2 teams in history of cricket the mighty Aus/WI have had it play its bit part in their success- have had it and will be as long as the game is played.Just ask Ind of it when they had it vs NZ that saved them another series defeat -for another couple of days atleast. By the way, there is nothing 'fortunate' about Bopara dismissal. Close but a close 'out' if 1 can call it that!Again a 2nd string Aus totally outclassed an Eng that played to it fullest and put up 1 of their best showings of the tour but still lost. Aus the team to beat in the WC next year.The SF lineups -Aus,Pak,NZ,and SL. Pak are a dangerous side and the combative NZ are getting better by the day.Expect any 1 of Pak/NZ to meet the Aussies in final.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:09 GMT)

@yogicoolboy on (January 26, 2014, 11:45 GMT) I'd say there were 2 turning points. 1 - Morgan's wicket which brought Bopara to the crease which led to him drying up the runs which then in turn led to Root playing a risky shot to relieve the pressure. 2 - Buttler getting out - Which left Bopara with the bowlers. If Buttler had been there with 5 overs to go I'd have backed the team but the only way we stayed above a run a ball were because of boundaries from Bres and Broad. I sometimes wonder if Bopara would be happy if he was there at the end with the team having lost with the "Well I did my job" attitude

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 13:08 GMT)

@Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 11:47 GMT) Bopara reminds me a bit of Shah. Both have immense talent but for me lack a bit in mindset. Shah is a very hot or cold player and on his day can do big things and somehow the T20 franchises will pick up on the one big inns he plays and ignore the mediocre stats inbetween. Bopara is more likely to do good things with the ball even though he is more of a batsman. It's a shame he doesn't have the confidence/intent to match his skill level. From the camera angles they showed on Sky it looked inconclusive and he should have been not out but maybe others have seen different angles etc. Regardless I would not have totally backed him to see us through. In fact I'd have probably backed against him

PS disappointed at your post (January 26, 2014, 12:02 GMT). While I think fans shouldn't just say things to keep others onside I think it's good/refreshing when they can make non biased judgements

Posted by No_1_again on (January 26, 2014, 13:08 GMT)

Congrats Clarke! Well done. Unbeaten this summer. Well played OZ. Very full filling Australia day.

Posted by lillee4PM on (January 26, 2014, 13:07 GMT)

During the WACA match I posted that Eng were subject to choking. Well, I got that right but just the wrong game!

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:06 GMT)

what a comeback from Australia - deserve this no 1 ranking completely. They showed remarkable grit and character. Some luck was needed but no victory is ever flawless. Although real test will be test series to south africa. South Africa with a much better and deeper batting lineup will give them the edge over Australia.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 13:01 GMT)

@Harmony111 I can't find anything to back this up, but just going by Taylor's commentary that was out the moment one end of the bail dislodged completely. Obviously it would have been not out if it had fallen back into place, but because it didn't and was completely out of the grove it was out.

Taylor specifically said only one end of the bail had to be completely out of the grove for it to be out. I trust Mark Taylor's knowledge of dismissals more than yours I'm afraid so argument closed.

Posted by PACERONE on (January 26, 2014, 13:01 GMT)

I wish that they would quit showing all these replays giving people a need to argue about the dismissal.As for those criticizing Bopra he has done better than others on this team and they don't get the criticism,His bowling has been about the best for England,getting crucial break troughs.Bell is the biggest fake..he is terrible against good tight bowling.he was terrible in Dubai against good spin and now against good fast bowling. This is how bad teams lose..look good for a while then collapse.They might of figured out Cook...stay off his pads and not too short either side of the wicket.

Posted by fine-edge on (January 26, 2014, 13:00 GMT)

@Harmony111. "If the bail is only partially dislodged then even if the batsman is not in his crease or is in the air he is not out at that precise moment. Whatever happens after that moment is immaterial."

No, what happens after that is crucial. If the bail settled back onto the stumps he would be not out. But the bail had lifted off the stumps and so had started the process of falling to the ground, which it did. That's out.

Posted by on (January 26, 2014, 12:59 GMT)

Posted by Harmony111 - Ian Healy & Hussey were criticizing Bopara saying he knew he was out as if he has his eyes backwards. What non-sense commentary from them.

Nope, his eyes aren't backwards or even in the back of his head.

He does have ears though. When he hears the ball hit the stumps and knows his foot is probably in the air - he has a real good clue that he is about to be given out.

The reason they were actually saying he knew he was out was Bopara looked to take 5 or 6 steps towards the pavillion then thought "I'd better make sure" and returned to the batting crease.

Believe me, Hussey and Healy, unlike you or me, have played - off the top of my head - 500 games for Australia between them? Healy was a wicket keeper - I reckon he knows a little of what he is talking about.

Posted by TheDarkKnight1988 on (January 26, 2014, 12:58 GMT)

@praspunter.don't worry mate AUS will lose each and every series abroad. No team is a exception. all struggle to win away. only SA in recent past have not lost a away series(tests). And we will see how your team performs in SA this time.not a saffa supporter though. ENG will be thinking when will this misery

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 12:55 GMT)

I thought an umpires decision shall only be given in response to an appeal. In RB case - who appealed?

Notwithstanding his foot was clearly grounded several frames before the bail was fully lifted from the grooves. Disloged is NOT fully removed from the grooves. We've all seen cases where the bail pops out - then drops back down again and the ruling is to allow for that to happen and the batter be not out.

2 reasons that was not out

Home biased umpires - Australia's 12th man - wins a game for them

England didn't deserve to win really. But if the rules were followed - they should have done. Their batting in the power play was (again) pathetic) 11 runs and 2 wickets in 5 overs? Shocking! Essp given that the 2 men out were the 2 set batsmen.

Also - Where is Luke Wright? Oh yes - that's it - scoring runs for fun with Alex Hales and Michael Lumb in the BB. Why isn't KP playing if ODI's are so important? Why isn't Anderson? What sort of team selection are England going for here?

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 26, 2014, 12:53 GMT)

@Harmony111@ Harsh Joshi - Well talking of 'luck',' umpiring decisions' etc. how can 1 not bring Ind into the picture. Well 'walking wicket' Jadeja got a shocker in his favour with a clear caught behind being robbed off NZ . Well it was so clear it would not have needed even hot spot to 'spot' it and snico too. NZ were very unlucky to not win it 3-0 . Well, don't see Ind get lucky again in the next 2 Odis . See NZ comprehensively beat them to win the series 4-0.

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 26, 2014, 12:49 GMT)

@Mathew Falting, exactly my point - the leg-stump bail was off the groove when his foot was hanging in air and wonder why that can't be out. People just look for reasons to cry and whinge loud !! Champion whingers !!!

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 26, 2014, 12:47 GMT)

Harmony111; The law states only one end of the bail has to be dislodged so once again you are wrong. As for your cracks at Pras Punter go easy because its very hard to argue with someone so biased, who gets everything wrong yet won't admit that tthey are wrong such as yourself.

Posted by on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

Posted by Ram.TG - Let Bailey captain the ODIs.

You had your wish last game. Just to remind you: He won the toss, sent the England in on a great batting wicket, they scored over 300 and killed us. Australia lost for the first time in 9 games.

Back to the proper captain today and no better captaincy would you see.

Fair dinkum, Clarke has 9 games for 9 wins as captain this summer and some people want him removed? Give me a break.

Posted by jackiethepen on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

I thought the decision over Bopara was too close to call and should have gone to the batsman but he was playing so badly that we were likely to lose the game anyway. It doesn't have to be both bails but the bail has to be completely removed, not just one end of it. That is the Law which Sky quoted via Bumble. JG will be surprised to know that in the build up to the t20 world cup the ODI side in the Windies will comprise of the t20 players in order to get them into shape. Not a bad idea? So Gilo must take some credit? This Series was very close and for the first time I think you can say 4-1 flattered Australia. We won one game handsomely and two went to the last over, that is pretty tight, and England were ahead in both and 'should' have won. Bopara was a weak link. He doesn't convince in situations like that. But he was out of form. Should he have played?

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

@seniorgators & fine-edge:

Suppose hypothetically, the camera showed one bail being struck by the ball, the bail coming out of its groove partially and at precisely at this moment one can see Bopara jumping 6 feet in the air --- would you want that to be given out --- only to later see that the bail that had partially come out of the groove had then somehow managed to get back & was still on the wicket?

There's even a YT video where the bail was struck, it rose (both ends of one bail) 2 inches in the air and then it fell back on the wicket to rest there, would you say that is out?

If the bail is only partially dislodged then even if the batsman is not in his crease or is in the air he is not out at that precise moment. Whatever happens after that moment is immaterial.

Bopara's foot was in the air but he wasn't out at that moment. By the time the bail was fully dislodged and started to fall down, he was back on ground meaning at no moment he was ever out stumped.

Posted by Darksack on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

The Root scoop at a time when England were cruising to an easy win. Another way to lose!australia could only win by taking wickets and England could not deny Australia 7 wickets to win from a massive winning position. Maybe Root thought he had done enough to keep his spot and wanted to be a hero. What ever his thoughts were he will be hanging his head right about now.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

Australia's small total was due to a slow pitch and disciplined bowling by England. England's smaller total was due to ridiculous shot selection and poor running between wickets. Yet again, England forgot how to play proper cricket shots. Very poor batting display.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 26, 2014, 12:43 GMT)

@Harsh Joshi- 'had Pitersen,Trott and Anderson been there...' Well this mighty Aus side with the best young talent - and the best odi/t20 side- in world would have dished out another 5-0 drubbing on them. Well, with the Ashes memories -and wounds- still fresh all of them will be mighty relieved to be out of the firing line and take some well needed time out of the game . Any more losses will hardly help the morale ,will it? But things will only get better for them in a few months. Guess who's coming ? India! Well KP and co. will be looking to it with delight and the pile of runs -and tons- awaiting them vs Ishant and co. What a relief from the likes of Mitch,Ryan etc just few months back ! Anderson too will be relishing getting his hands on the shiny duke against the FTBs !

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 26, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

5 nil in the tests 4-1 in the ODI'S and I am still worried about our batting, but the bowlers have been fantastic.

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 26, 2014, 12:29 GMT)

@HarshJoshi, had apple not fallen, the Law of Gravity wouldn't have been discovered - how is that for an example on Could have's and Would have's.

Since you have described Aus as lambs abroad, I have these stats for you - we beat SA 2-1 away, Eng 2-1 away, SL 3-2 away and only lost 2-3 in india in all our recent ODI outings.

Contrast this with the following statistic - 0-2 against SA away, 0-3 against Eng away, can't win a series against NZ anymore this time and even lost 1-2 against Pak at home. No prizes for guessing which team it is !! Probably the one you support ?? !!!

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 12:26 GMT)


As is your wont, you simply refuse to accept what the other says instead of offering any sort of rebuttal. I know you want to participate in the comments section but pls keep yourself to basic "Well played" etc stuff instead of getting into things that you can't grasp. Read spex750 's comment to see what it means to offer a proper counter.


The wicket not said to be put down unless the bail has been COMPLETELY DISLODGED. The bail must be fully out of its two grooves & then fell down to say a wicket has been put down. Reason is that with one end still in the groove, the bail 'might' manage to somehow go back.

I did see that the leg-side bail's one end was out of its grove but I don't think there was any frame from any angle that conclusively showed that bail was fully dislodged when Bopara's foot was in the air. The bail did finally come off fully but by then Bopara's sole was def in touch with the ground.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 26, 2014, 12:25 GMT)

@Harmony111- you are entitled to your views as every 1 is -however right or wrong - but mine cant disagree with yours anymore. As @trumpoz rightly pointed out only 1 angle/frame is needed to conclusively prove the dismissal and the 3rd ump. made the absolute right decision. As he has access to the very best tech. than any1 else with HD pictures and all aids just 100 mts away from the action. And much more credentials with his job with years of hands on exp. too. That's why he's an int. ump and sitting where he does. And would any day believe his decision than us sitting 10*1000s of miles away here in Ind. re- Ian Healy & Hussey- I will any day take the views of these - 2 of the greatest cricketers in history- than the any no. of 'KB warriors' - like all of us!- out there . They called it right - out!. I too agree . That's out !

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 12:24 GMT)

I don't understand why people are saying that Ravi Bopara's stumping was not out? His foot was clearly in the air while the bail was fully off of the stump! that is OUT every day of the week!! Stop whinging

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 26, 2014, 12:24 GMT)

Harmony111, the final of the CT was played at Cardiff. There were five games played there during the CT. It was a wicket very simlar to this Adelaide one. Slow and dry. No team batting second won there, with the highest second innings there being 240. So maybe India were just a bit lucky to bat first there. At any rate it was a perfect "sub-continent" wicket.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 12:21 GMT)

Australia was very lucky to win this one.

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 26, 2014, 12:21 GMT)

Surely Wright is a better alternative to Bopara who dropped a catch, took an age to get going, ran out a partner who could have done the job and then managed to get out by virtue of not being able to stand still

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 26, 2014, 12:19 GMT)

Small margins snatching defeat from the jaws... Root's scoop: culpable; Wade asked to don a helmet & show that he can stop Ravi's tendency to drift away from his crease, if not actually take the ball cleanly - inspired, if contentious, in outcome. Clarke's body language - smiling, confidence-inspiring, enjoying the contest - marshalling his bowlers & shrewdly positioning his fielders to choke England's runs to a trickle - without going into conference - crucial! Had Cook been in Clarke's postion... The result would still have gone the same way. Small, vital margins... Just the way I saw it.

Posted by AB34 on (January 26, 2014, 12:18 GMT)

The behind camera angle show that his foot was in the air when the right stump bail was dislodge....why are some English supporter/website saying it was a "controversial" decision, were you guys looking at the same behind camera angle as everyone else....?

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 26, 2014, 12:17 GMT)

Well it could have gone either way. Titanium Gloves Wade got the stumping. I guess it must have been the will of Allah, cause Wade sure had little to do with it. But that's how it's gone for England this series. But it has to be said Australia had unfeasible amounts of bad luck in the England leg of the Ashes and in the CT series. So it does even out in the end. And England will have their day in the sun again.

It does fill my heart with joy to see DisHarmony111's sour comments here. India could only hold the #1 ranking for one day. Is that a world record?

Posted by seniorgators on (January 26, 2014, 12:14 GMT)

@ Harmony111 You need to know the rules to suggest it was an atrocious decision and clearly you don't. The bails do not have to be dislodged: just one from the groove of the stumps and clearly in the final vision shown one was!

@ HarshJoshi Would have Could have Did'nt. Trott Pieterson and Anderson could have been there but clearly in no mind to play. And were'nt they all effective over the summer ... Not.

@jonesy2isabBigot Wade appealed - Heard it mentioned on commentary on ABC radio. As for your reference to marginal.That is why - they are so close some will go both ways. Been plenty of those over the years with run outs and all teams have had their lucky breaks.

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (January 26, 2014, 12:14 GMT)

MJ didn't have any real impact during the ODI's. Was he told to take it easy during his appearances? Has he gone off the boil?

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 12:13 GMT)

I'm not against having a totally non test playing ODI side with maybe Morgan captaining. I'm also wondering if Trego may be worth a punt. I'm not sure if he would be too effective down the order but if you want a guy who can bowl some tidy overs and some brutality up front with the bat and a sharp fielder they could do worse. He doesnt have the quality/strokeplay of Bopara but what he does have over Bopara IMO is intent and a stronger mindset. Other possibilities are guys like Wright,Lumb and Hales and maybe Taylor although I'm not sure how far away Taylor may be from a test call up? Bowling is more of an issue. I still wonder if Dernbach could come good over a consistent period of time. Napier seems to have a decent knack of bowling yorkers which I think is needed at the end of an inns so he's another option. Above all I'd like to see a different mindset above different personnel which I guess means bye bye Giles/Flower etc

Posted by fine-edge on (January 26, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

@Harmony111. The commentators were not criticizing Bopara, they were saying that he looked like a man who thought he was out. They were right, he did. Also, the bails don't have to be "completely off", only one of the bails needs to have lifted even the smallest amount off the groove while the foot is raised, and at least one replay angle showed that was the case. And to the poster who said there was no appeal, there was an appeal and Wade even gestured towards the crease as he turned to the square leg ump.

Posted by jb633 on (January 26, 2014, 12:08 GMT)

@Harmony111, it is nice to hear someone from Asian descent also having a go at Ravi and his infuriating batting. Whenever i have a go at him, or any England fan does we are told it is discriminatory. It has nothing to do with his background, race, religion or anything else but his batting has frustrated us for so many years.

Posted by AB34 on (January 26, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

"It was an exceptionally tight call, but the third umpire Kumar Dharmasena went the way of Australia. Bopara walked off in a daze" was clearly OUT!! didn't you see the behind the stump vision???

Posted by CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

And so for West Indies: 1.Hales 2.Moeen Ali 3.Taylor 4.Morgan 5.Ballance 6.Buttler 7&8 (2 out of Woakes/Stokes/Borthwick) 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs/Topley. Other reserves Vince and Davies.

Hales to bat like in T20Is- averages more than most of the ODI side. Ali to bowl a bit and bat through and play some shots. Taylor to bat through and agress at the end. Ballance may enjoy more freedom. Buttler can bat higher when required. Topley has impressed me on sky. Briggs deserves a go.

Don't worry. Come the summer, bring back Root, Pietersen, Anderson and Finn is possible. Just select the better performers from this series in the ODI side. Wouldn't mind a look at Willey when fit.

Reckon the Bopara stumping was out.

Posted by wapuser on (January 26, 2014, 12:06 GMT)

Australia were fortunate in getting Bopara's wicket..Wonder what ECB were thinking when they dropped Pitersen and Anderson from ODI series..England could have won this series if they would have been here.. England should render services of Ryan TenDoeschate..

Posted by riaz.m on (January 26, 2014, 12:06 GMT)

Bopara should NEVER EVER play another game for England,he has had plenty of opportunity without EVER should any semblance of mental strength required to succeed at this level.

Posted by wapuser on (January 26, 2014, 12:04 GMT)

I can't understand why England persists with Ravi Bopara time and time again. He is such a pestering selection- he showed it in champions trophy final by getting out at a crucial stage and let england down wishfully and here again he gifted it to Australia...

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 12:03 GMT)

In this match England was damn unlucky. With Cook & Bopara dropping Finch early on & Ravi Bopara's most unfortunate dismissal.

Good fightback by Aussies, though. McKay & Faulkner showed that you don't need express speed to get wickets; but can manage well with skill & clever bowling. Not-so-fast fast bowlers from across the world, please note. And so do the fanatic advocates of sheer pace.

Posted by jb633 on (January 26, 2014, 12:03 GMT)

I honestly think our approach to t20 cricket is meaning we will fall behind in any format of the game. I don't think any other country would have made such a meal out of this chase. The likes of Oz, India, SA would have chased this down with 10 overs to spare. A lot of our batsmen have a very limited range of strokes, particularly against spinners and allow the pressure to build and build. I believe we need to be encouraging the likes of Root, Bopara, etc to go and play in some of these global tournaments as we need to be more inventive and score at a healthier strike rate. I must confess i don't like the IPL but I am coming around to the idea of it far more after watching the improvements of Smith, Johnson etc. It is not all bad

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 12:02 GMT)


The low score was cos the wicket was slow. The slow wicket was a reason why Eng couldn't score quickly enough. Thus what you say is not the right way to put it.

Who defended 130 in CT Final? Most ppl believe that that wicket was not a typical Eng wicket. Thus, either it was a flat wicket or a sluggish wicket. Either way, India did well to defend the score. Isn't it?

It would be nice if some Ind fans begin to show a bit of bias toward their own team instead of trying to appear too neutral and sporting merely in order to boost their self-righteousness.

One reason why other fans are so nasty towards Ind fans is cos they know there are some bad apples among us who have this desire of being accepted by others & will say what the others want to hear. When will some ppl learn?

I would have messaged you privately but I got no other way. Hope you become a bit more biased (objectively) for your own nation.

Posted by CodandChips on (January 26, 2014, 12:00 GMT)

Australia have a good group of players for the world cup. Will be dangerous.

But for England- a radical change is needed in ODIs. We have won 1 series since South Africa. In the champions trophy, the only matches we won were against Australia- who were there for the taking, New Zealand in a T20, and South Africa missing Kallis, Smith, Morkel and Steyn.

Bopara, Bresnan, Rankin should have all played their last ever matches for England in any format. Bopara especially- he is a finisher who can't finish games, and a batsman who can't bat. Average of 30. Always gets out in chases (bar Dublin).

New approach needed at the top. We almost never score 300. Cook and Bell need to focus on rebuilding the test team.

Morgan to captain. Strong leader, tactically decent, and automatic selection. No burden of test cricket either on him.

Stokes has struggled but would be worth another go. Not at 3 mind. Root needs a proper rest

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 11:59 GMT)

Going forward - I suppose this mirrors the test series in England whereby one team won by 3 matches but 2 of the matches could easily have gone the other way.

If we're using the same players then Bopara must move down the order. The way he is batting at the moment mirrors the way our test players went at it - get bogged down and then try and relieve the pressure with a desperate shot. Sure the decision looked dodgy but I'm not sure he'd have seen us over the line anyway.He did as good a job at creating pressure as any Aus bowler. Stokes is no number 3 either so for me - if we lose an early wicket Root goes in at 3 and if we dont Morgan's the man. Then Root/Morgan or Buttler at 4 or 5 (depending on who came in at 3 and the game situation etc) , Stokes at 6 , Bopara at 7 ... I think this would not sit well with Ravi and may wake him into some sort of form/intent etc.

Posted by trumpoz on (January 26, 2014, 11:56 GMT)

Harmony111 - the view from the back on the split screen was more than enough evidence. No bias was needed - it was clearly out. If you are not able to see it then I suggest you check resolution on your television screen.

A remarkable victory - but one really engineered through tight bowling and poor shots from the English batsmen. Does that now mean Australia is back to number seeing as India can't win in NZ at the moment?

Posted by wapuser on (January 26, 2014, 11:54 GMT)

I can't understand why England persists with Ravi Bopara time and time again. He is such a pestering selection- he showed it in champions trophy final by getting out at a crucial stage and let england down wishfully and here again he gifted it to Australia...

Posted by jb633 on (January 26, 2014, 11:52 GMT)

Well played Oz. I do believe you are the best ODI side at the moment and will most probably win the next world cup. As for us, it is just another limp display with the bat and we have bottled it again. We need to have a huge clearout after this series, there is far too much dross putting the tree lions on their shirt.

Posted by spex750 on (January 26, 2014, 11:48 GMT)

@Harmony111 - I agree the side-on cameras were inconclusive, but the rear-view camera showed a frame in which there was clear air between the leg-side bail and its stump, and clear air between Bopara's foot and its shadow. That's enough to prove the dismissal.

It was a good decision but terribly unlucky for Bopara and for England. Australia bowled well but a lot of luck went into this victory.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 26, 2014, 11:47 GMT)

Normalcy has been restored after a one match aberration by the Aussies.

What an absolute stuffing of the English perpetrated by the Aussies this summer. In fact the writing was on the wall in the English Ashes series, when after a string of great misfortune for Australia and luck for the English, the English still could not win the games by large margins. That was the signal for the return to the rightful rank order of these old foes.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 11:47 GMT)

Talking about Bopara, it is a pity he hasn't been able to grow. He once went unsold at IPL, refused a lower amount contract saying he wanted to focus on playing for Eng by improving his game. And what a show he put on today to prove he has improved a lot. Forget about the maiden he played to Doherty, that was very early but as late as the 48th over, he was using 4 balls to score 1 run. If he put me off so much then I can imagine some Eng fans getting balder seeing that.

There have been persistent doubts about Bopara's finishing abilities and he helped to dilute none of them today. If anything those doubts became hardened.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:47 GMT)

So, england is the big three after losing 5 consecutive test matches and 4 of 5 odis?. who could not do that?. ireland/afganistan/bangladesh/zim...?.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 26, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

How was Bopara unlucky? Only 1 part of the bail needs to be dislodged and his foot was in the air when that happened. Cleary out, no hard luck, just out!

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

aussie the great. faulkner is brrialabt

Posted by aussie1993 on (January 26, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

what a captaincy from CLARKEY

Posted by yogicoolboy on (January 26, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

boparas and bresnans wicket were the turning point in this match. And didnt understand the logic of sending stokes at nos 3. They werent chasing a huge total. It would have made sense to send root at nos3 and preserve the hitters at later stages

Posted by Mitty2 on (January 26, 2014, 11:41 GMT)

So, so conflicted. Even as a Vic I hate Wade playing for Aus and would prefer Handscomb as the state keeper - Wade's keeping is and will forever remain to be dreadful - but he gets that fluke stumping to his name. Then, you have my beloved Twatto taking the final wicket after a series of 0 and 0 and a dropped catch... Oh well, 4-1, number 1 ranking and England snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again!

Full credit to Mckay and Faulkner. Brilliant bowling and brilliance to keep, force and sustain pressure. Mckay must not ever be dropped from this ODI team until he gets injured/retired - he adds the perfect balance to the likes of NCN, MJ, Starc, Patto, etc - his death bowling has improved a lot and his new ball bowling has always been very good, and his phenomenal record speaks for itself. Faulkner's a brilliant player under pressure - the complete opposite of Twatto - and has so much potential. Also, NCN can be a permanent for ODI's - just not tests. Oh and Clarke brilliant.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:41 GMT)


Too much excitement in two days seems to have gone into my teenage grandson's head. He blared out, as soon as the match was over; "Ravi Bopara is no Ravi Jadeja!. He should have finished it off". I had to respond, saying Corey Anderson is no Shane Watson. Moreover Bopara was damn unlucky".

He gave a leg-glance to my response, and bowled a bouncer at England, unfairly: "Root is the root-cause of England losing this ODI series at 1-4". he said. I asked why. Why he?" And he says irreverently, but not irrelevantly; "The only match England won, they had kept Root out". Statistically, may be correct, but factually, I don't know. But seems an unfair shot at Root!

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 11:40 GMT)

I still (despite his inns) thought it was a bad gamble to play Root and (not sure if he's in our squad) I hope he's rested for the T20s. But well played young man - but please give him a break. We have a dynamic T20 batting line up without him.

The commentators were again very critical of Cook's captaincy and understandably so. The think I'd like to have seen him do was keep Broad on for some more overs or even bowl him out in his 1st spell. If we take one or 2 more wickets early on there may not even be death overs to bowl. We so often see our death bowlers going for runs anyway soo why save so many overs when a bowler is so on form? Another trait (showing an over defensive mindset) is there is little squeezing. Take when they had Bailey in and they have a long off etc for him 1st up on a difficult pitch. Bring those men in and it means the batsman has to gamble to hit over the top and on a difficult pitch..

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 26, 2014, 11:39 GMT)

Ah there he is, @Harmony111, with his one-eyed views. Give us a break !!

Posted by maddogcfc on (January 26, 2014, 11:39 GMT)

Bopara's stumping was a dreadful decision, but was in keeping with his whole dopey innings.Why was he lifting his foot anyway with Wade standing up? Lots of criticism being levied at Morgan, Root and Butler for getting out the way they did, yet Bopara's awful 2 from 19 ball start with zero rotation of the strike put so much pressure on the other batter. He also ran Bresnan out - apparently unaware that Bres is a big lumbering unit and called him for a daft single.

To be honest if anyone in my club side batted with the lack of game awarness Bopara showed, they'd get a slap in the changing room afterwards.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:38 GMT)

very poor batting display by england

Posted by crookedfinger on (January 26, 2014, 11:38 GMT)

Bopara should not have been given out. Wrong decision by third umpire.

Posted by Basitshah432 on (January 26, 2014, 11:32 GMT)

They deserves that one well played Aussies <3

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 11:28 GMT)

Well played Australia - great spirit etc.

England will be kicking themselves. To a degree Root,Morgan and definitely Buttler but for me our main culprit was Bopara. Regardless of the umpire's decision giving him out the guy is a huge liability and I wonder if it would have made a difference to the result? The guy is going at a SR of about 10 after about 20 balls and is extremely fortunate that a hoik to relive pressure lands just out of one of Aus less mobile fielders Watson's reach. And then it's not Bopara but Bres and Broad who relieve a little pressure with boundaries and the former Bopara managed to help run out. I think it was an over or 2 before and Bres hit one down the ground (obviously his call) and Bopara was actually looking behind him at where the ball was going. Absolutely zero positivity/urgency.. He really missed a chance to prove all the doubters wrong tonight. By all mewans keep him in the side for his bowling but he must bat below Buttler

Posted by Bonehead_maz on (January 26, 2014, 11:25 GMT)

Today Matthew Wade re-defined great wicket keeping. Dropping the ball is now officially "faster" ROFL.

Posted by salazar555 on (January 26, 2014, 11:24 GMT)

Bopara scored 2 runs off 20 balls. The amount of pressure he puts on the other batsman is crazy. They have to play rash shots because he's getting dot ball after dot ball. Then he goes and runs Bres out before getting out.

Why he keeps getting picked I don't know, he offers nothing to this England team

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:24 GMT)

Great comeback from Australia but honestly bopara was unlucky. Again wrong decision changed the match. Faulkner is another talented all rounder. He does well with ball and bat for his team. He gonna be a top performer of upcoming T20 worldcup.

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (January 26, 2014, 11:22 GMT)

Oh well. So Aus move to No.1. And deservedly so, given that they can defend such a low total on a relatively slow wicket. Something our boys could never do. Kudos to the Aussies. Enjoy it. I'll be watching the SA series with interest. Let's see whether you can win away from home against a top-class team.

As for you, England, you bunch of floundering nutcases. Twice now you've choked, once in Birmingham, and now Adelaide. Both times involved Tredwell, who quite frankly, couldn't swat a fly. I'll be surprised if you guys can beat the Windies. Good luck, you'll need it.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:22 GMT)

Aus rockz and again to no 1 ranking.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:22 GMT)

What's with England? Can't England even chase 217?

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:20 GMT)

Clarke vs Ponting vs Steve Waugh, who would emerge the winner ? I'd rate Clarke best among the current lot, ahead of Dhoni as Dhoni is a little defensive at times (understandable as his hands are tired often due to deleted bowling resources). Greame Smith is rigid, pretty much along the lines of Cook.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:14 GMT)

good fightback by australia

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 26, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

The Bopara stumping is one of the most atrocious 3rd umpire decisions I have ever seen. Not just this, the commentary (prob Ian Healy & Hussey) during that time is one of the most biased one I have ever heard.

I can't see how the 3rd Umpire was convinced that the bails were completely off when Bopara's foot was in the air. Most of the replays didn't even show the bail to be honest but Healy & Hussey kept saying it was clearly off. The off-side bail couldn't hardly be seen and the leg side bail was masked by Wade's body from the back side view and was hard to make out from the side on view.

The view from the short leg didn't show when exactly the bail came off cos there was a delay in the ball hitting the bail and it coming off.

Ian Healy & Hussey were criticizing Bopara saying he knew he was out as if he has his eyes backwards. What non-sense commentary from them.

The main thing lacking in modern umpires is common sense. If there was more of it one wouldn't even need DRS.

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (January 26, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

So there you go. Bloody Watto gets his 1 wicket of the series & wins it for Oz on Oz Day.

I'd shout him a dinner of fish 'n' chips + 1 can o' Fosters for that - & then kick him off the team.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 11:13 GMT)

Australia won two close games or else England would have won this series.had Pitersen,Trott and Anderson been there...England would have thrashed this average Australian side..The real test starts now and South Africa the world best team is waiting to pounce on Aussies(kangaroos who turn lambs abroad).Australia should not forget 7-0 in India and England..

Posted by markatnotts on (January 26, 2014, 11:05 GMT)

Well it will when you are given out stumped when there is no appeal and one camera view shows your foot just touching the ground at the point the bails completely off. Now if that can be out why wasn't Agar's dismissal given out in the summer? There seem to be great inconsistencies on marginal stumping decisions!

Posted by JG2704 on (January 26, 2014, 10:32 GMT)

Wow - I think the pendulum is swinging to Australia now. Sloppy shot by Buttler who should be able to deal with pressure (and has done before) better than this. One thing is that Buttler usually knows where the fielders are and I'm surprised he'd back himself to clear one so early in his inns and on such a pitch Bopara owes England now.I was actually for him coming in before Jos today but I didn't realise he'd help Australia to get the RR up to nearly a run a ball striking at a SR of around 10.

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (January 26, 2014, 10:24 GMT)

Oh, Watto . . .

In this ODI series, of 17 Aus batsmen (including tail-enders) facing balls, Watto is the only player to average 0.

Of 10 Aus bowlers who've bowled 10 overs or more, Watto is the only one who's taken NO wickets (as of my writing this, with 10 overs left in match).

Even his fielding is sub-par, with the commentators remarking at least twice re Watto's evident lack of enthusiastic commitment.

Watto isn't even a passenger anymore - he's a freeloading stowaway on this team. Ought to be fined every time he dons a Baggy Green these days.

Uh oh, Clarke's just given him the ball in the 41st over. Now watch him take a 5-for & win the game.

If this happens, ignore all that I said above.

Posted by salazar555 on (January 26, 2014, 10:18 GMT)

Bopara is a liability to this team. England would be better off playing with 10

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 26, 2014, 9:28 GMT)

we are getting our bowling combo consistently wrong. Batsmen cant win games always. When there is a slip-up, the bowling unit should be good enough to defend low scores. I dont see that happening with the one that plays this game. Get 4 proper bowlers. Mckay, NCN and X can't defend even if we score 300+, as we saw in india. One of Watto/Max/Faulkner must give way for a bowler.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 7:09 GMT)

No one in a Six's column, haha

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 26, 2014, 7:07 GMT)

A rather predictable scenario. Once you start mixing and matching players and fiddling with team harmony it all goes to pieces. Same thing happened last year when they did it vs SL after thrashing SL in the first game. Same thing happened vs SA in the tests. It just doesn't work.

If they are going to do this then they might as well just give all the inexperienced players a shot. Why bring Watson back in for one game? All he can do is show he's rusty, then it's all over. No point at all. Pretty much the same for Clarke.

I'm assuming this is a pretty lame pitch, so the game will be over very quickly.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 26, 2014, 7:06 GMT)

The other thing about Watto is that he never really plays himself into the side. Every time he gets injured he walks back into the international sides. He hasn't played a shield game or even a big bash game in years, that's something that could be looked at.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 6:59 GMT)

strong feeling. ... Australia are gonna be really tested against South Africa

Posted by Ram.TG on (January 26, 2014, 6:23 GMT)

Bring in Steve Smith for Clarke @ #3. Let Bailey captain the ODIs.

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 26, 2014, 6:13 GMT)

i am an indian fan but supporting england today as a loss to england and 2-2 series draw bt india and nz wud mean india remain top of icc rankings atleast for few more months. come on england win today and restore some pride. also let india remain on top of rankings by decreasing australia rating points.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (January 26, 2014, 6:13 GMT)

Everyone getting on the bandwagon now. Look, Australia has toyed with there form by resting players and also daft selections ie NCN not up to it, Patto not suited but in the team just to get a run, Marsh over White and Ferguson, and Wades selection full stop.

Posted by disco_bob on (January 26, 2014, 6:03 GMT)

I'm beginning to wonder if we intend to carry Watson for his entire career waiting for him to finally show some mettle. Under no pressure he's a clean hitting bully, when you need him, however occasionally, he's a dead weight, and worse he's keeping out Hughes who has been treated abominably and really should be going to SA instead of Watson whom SA will have on toast.

Posted by lillee4PM on (January 26, 2014, 5:51 GMT)

Aus looked lethargic in Perth and are all at sea in Adelaide. Without Warner in the side they lack sparkle and the hunger to win dead rubbers is not there. Local spectators at these two venues deserve a refund.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 26, 2014, 5:09 GMT)

Australia have less incentive to win than do England - they won the series already and they have flogged England all summer. They have proven themselves.

Nothing to worry about - it is not a true reflection of the difference in quality between the two teams, but rather a temporary situation brought on by recent events and psychological factors

Posted by lillee4PM on (January 26, 2014, 4:54 GMT)

Clarke out cheaply to the worst shot I have ever seen him play; what was he thinking?

Posted by mzm149 on (January 26, 2014, 4:53 GMT)

I think Australia rested too many players in last game which broke the winning momentum.

Posted by   on (January 26, 2014, 4:47 GMT)

Australia is being totally outplayed here, looked like a good pitch but the bowling has been very tight and dry and we haven't been good enough.

Posted by AnthonyMD on (January 26, 2014, 4:43 GMT)

Just tuned in to check the score, thought I was back in the early 80.s and Australia was playing the West Indies on a dicey Sabina Park pitch. It's a flat deck in Adelaide against England for God's sake......

Posted by Mitty2 on (January 26, 2014, 4:20 GMT)

I havent commented on cricinfo for a long while so it's only fitting that my first is about Twatto. He just brings so much to the table, and above all, the best thing he brings is consistenty. Just take what he did with the bat today, not only was he impressively all at sea to good length bowling yet again, he did something great for the team in getting out not before he wasted England's review. Well done, Twatto. Other things that shall be witnessed by the infamous, supremely talented and enigmatic man today: bowl 3 irrelevant overs for not many overs that will have every one lauding him about what he brings to the team, ignore a few kid's autographs because he's better than them at cricket, be at first slip and be closer to the ball, but still yell at Wade to ran after the ball because he had a big lunch and is sore from last night's chest session at the gym. Oh yes and he'll trip over a wrapper and do his hammy, and blame Mickey Arthur.

Posted by Back-Foot-Cringe on (January 26, 2014, 4:11 GMT)

Watto's pads still twice the size of everyone else's. Not a legit #3 bat. Not a world class bat period. Aus looking way vulnerable @ #3 for SA tour. Steyn & co know they've got an instant wicket there - putting extra pressure on Clarke @ 4.

Would take Hughes, even S. Marsh (despite the debacle against India), over Watto.

I vote for Watto to carry drinks.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 26, 2014, 3:56 GMT)

Watson too, two innings, two ducks.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 26, 2014, 3:47 GMT)

Finch is interesting. 2 hundreds have been scored this series, he has both of them. However, in every innings, he invariably offers 1 or 2, maybe even 3 chances in early in his innings. 2 hundreds, 2 ducks and a middling score don't bode well. It will be interesting to see what selectors do with him.

Posted by salazar555 on (January 26, 2014, 3:18 GMT)

Bopara still in the team and Ballance out. What is going on? Bopara has done nothing all series and he seems to be a shoe in for a place no matter how bad he plays.

Ballance has scored 132 runs so far and gets dropped and Bopara has scored 65 and is still there? I can't work it out, it must be some Essex boys club or something?

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