England v Australia, 2nd Investec Test, Lord's, 2nd day July 19, 2013

Swann's five embarrass Australia on manic day


England 31 for 3 (Siddle 3-4) and 361 lead Australia 128 (Swann 5-44) by 264 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

It will require the services of a cricket historian to determine when Australia last batted as woefully as this. Many Australian supporters will neither know nor care. It will be enough merely to condemn the sheer awfulness of their batting performance in the second Investec Test.

England were serviceable in the field, Australia were simply dreadful with the bat. This was an opportunity to bat themselves into a winning position, the occasional sign of sharp turn for Graeme Swann notwithstanding. Instead, they floundered, dismissed in only 53.3 overs. Nothing in their three innings defeats against England in 2010-11 felt as bad as this.

Just as bafflingly, presented with a first-innings lead of 233, England then tossed away three wickets of their own, all of them to Peter Siddle with the new ball. This pitch, although dryer than normally seen at Lord's, has over the first two days essentially been a batsman's surface. But in 20 overs to the close, Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott both dragged on and Kevin Pietersen gifted a catch to point. England lead by 264.

Australia's dismissals variously revealed frailties of temperament, technique and team ethic. Swann was the chief beneficiary with five wickets and, as ably as he bowled, if he claims he worked hard for it, he will be playing it for laughs. As for Darren Lehmann, Australia's new coach, he now knows the size of the job.

Ryan Harris must have been beside himself with fury. He had bowled with skill and resolve to put himself on the honours board before lunch with his return of 5 for 72, only for Australia's top order to produce a dishonour board of their own.

Harris helped reduce England to 28 for 3 on the first morning with the attributes developed over a decade as he defied a broken body time and again; Australia lost ten wickets for 86 primarily because of their own negligence. Swann confirmed that England felt as much as 450 was par.

It would be easy for Australia to hide behind more resentful discussion about the Decision Review System. It is little more than scapegoating. If Australia did not make things any easier with their irrational use of DRS, the dominant story should be one of batting incompetence.

Shane Watson's decision to review his plumb lbw decision against Tim Bresnan will rightly leave him open to accusations that he put his ego ahead of team needs, but the cricketing accent should also be on his desire to plant his front pad and work Bresnan through the leg side in the final over before lunch.

Australia's self-possession in an opening stand of 42 fell apart. The psychological fallout from his twin error was astonishing.

Chris Rogers will understandable gain sympathy for his dismissal: firstly for a dreadful lbw decision by Marais Erasmus, who was as caught unawares as the batsman when the ball slipped out of Swann's hands and arrived as a waistband-high donkey drop; secondly because Watson's selfishness left him reluctant to risk Australia's final review.

But that should not preclude an examination of why such a wise old hand, a batsman who must have seen everything over a long career, failed to survive the shock of receiving such a stray delivery.

Phillip Hughes walked off shaking his head, contending that he had not edged Bresnan to the wicketkeeper. Hot Spot was not clear, leaving the TV umpire Tony Hill with no evidence to overturn umpire Kumar Dharmasena's decision; Snicko, for what it is worth, indicated that there was a nick and Hughes was just posturing. But that was not the point. The emphasis should have been on why Hughes was hacking so wildly at a wide one.

Usman Khawaja, a batsman held by his captain Michael Clarke to be ready for Australia's No. 3 spot, was badly dropped by Trott at first slip when he pushed defensively forward to a routine offbreak. But if that persuaded him he must be more assertive, it does not formulate a case for why he lofted Swann so weakly down the ground - not much more than a badly timed push shot - to be caught out of the sun by Pietersen, standing at mid-off.

At least Australia's last two batsmen to fall before tea were dismissed in a more approved fashion. Steven Smith was beaten by extra bounce and caught off the glove at short leg - Ian Bell having just been moved by Swann for that very eventuality. Clarke, a captain who repeatedly finds himself lacking support, pulled Stuart Broad dismissively, but fell lbw in the same over to a near yorker.

There had to be a run-out. There were indications at Trent Bridge that Brad Haddin and Ashton Agar have no understanding between the wickets, not as much a different approach as much as a generational divide.

Agar dashed for a single from the non-striker's end when the ball bobbled into the leg-side off Haddin's body, Haddin did not respond, and Matt Prior returned quickly to the bowler's end. And this was a subdued Agar, hindered by a hip injury.

After tea it got no better. Anderson, upon whom England were so reliant at Trent Bridge, took his first wicket when he had Siddle caught at second slip. Haddin heaved at Swann and Trott held on this time.

The last-wicket pair clung on for eight overs, but only because Swann dropped a simple return chance from Harris. A good running catch by Pietersen, as Harris went long, gave Swann a five-for.

All this mayhem on the pitch where Harris had bowled so gamely, removing Bresnan to the first ball of the day and Anderson for his own five-wicket haul. England were grateful for an ebullient last-wicket stand of 48 from 40 balls between Broad and Swann, a stand which illustrated both the quality of the pitch and the chemistry that can result when they combine in some late-order hitting.

James Pattinson, so out of sorts that he bowled his 20 overs in nine spells, finally put an end to it when Broad nicked to the keeper. Broad naturally reviewed it and by the time Hot Spot revealed an edge, Australia, to a man, were stood by the Pavilion gate, having had quite enough for one series of watching Broad remain at the crease under false pretences.

Anderson's appearance as a nightwatchman for Broad, a No. 9 batsman, had caused grumbles. But there were logical reasons to try to protect Broad and Swann from the new ball in the hope they would create havoc later. And they did just that.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Waisii on July 20, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Have not a spinner like sharne warn, saeed ajmal, swann, narine Aussies dont think to win a single test match..... You guys have not replacement of Mccgrath, Warne, Ponting, Gilchrist.... Are straight forward under-dogs..... I challenge if current australian team can survive against bangladesh too.....

  • Happy_hamster on July 20, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Good solid batting this morning befitting of the match situation, this is custom made for Prior to come in and bat with freedom and dare I say gay abandon. I was still a little worried last night at 31-3 but now feel England will surely win against Aussie's best 11 (RandyOz, 2013).

  • Hammond on July 20, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    @whofriggincares- I don't see how stating that 31 series to 30 in total is "cooking the stats". If England wins the next two series, then they have won the ashes more than Australia has. Cold hard fact.

  • SirViv1973 on July 20, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @notimeforcricket, Im not totally sure katich is actually eligible as he no longer plays shield cricket. Besides he is 36 they already have rogers opening who is 35, aus just can't keep going backwards with their selections everytine the batting collapses. They have 2 more or less stick with the guys they have & hope that given enough exposure 2 quality bowling they learn their lessons.

  • Pyketts on July 20, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    Please can we stop the calls for the recall of Compton, his method of playing damages the balance in the England team. How can people not see this?

    Taylor, Chopra pretty much anyone but Compton (unless Cook or Trott gets out and then he has a place)

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK, why? Why does root need a 100 to prove himself, if he gets one great, but if he gets out on 80/90, so what he will have batted england into a decent position, probably with close on a 400 run lead, and hopefully the aussies who have already bowled 150 overs this test will be gone allowing the likes of bell, prior and the others to come out and play with freedom.

  • 5wombats on July 20, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    3/114 @lunch and England taking the game away from Australia now. Good conditions for bowling but Australia failing to make any impression. Root playing some good shots but jeez doesn't he look young!!!

  • on July 20, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    mate thats more likely to the fact australian had the most dominant world team during late 1990's till throughout 2000's. the waugh and ponting era saw greatness and england nor any other nation will ever overcome that but in other times england has always been dominant

  • notimeforcricket on July 20, 2013, 11:53 GMT

    My guess is Lehman will call Katich. If you put him somewhere in the top 3 you either slot him straight in at 3 or make him open and put Watson down to 6. Clarke always does across well but seems to fall out with people.... Watson, Katich etc. amazing that Australia have not been opening with Rogers and Katich since Hayden retired

  • whofriggincares on July 20, 2013, 11:39 GMT

    @Hammond , England are no doubt the superior outfit at this point in time. Historically it gets a little tougher to define who is in fact superior. The series wins certainly tell a story but England won seven series in the 1880's before it was a 5 test series . So with the ashes in it's current form (and arguably its most testing format) the aussies are well in front , the head to head test win table has us comfortably in front also 123 to 101. I suppose you can twist the stats to support either argument but a 22 test deficit is hard to argue against.

  • Waisii on July 20, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Have not a spinner like sharne warn, saeed ajmal, swann, narine Aussies dont think to win a single test match..... You guys have not replacement of Mccgrath, Warne, Ponting, Gilchrist.... Are straight forward under-dogs..... I challenge if current australian team can survive against bangladesh too.....

  • Happy_hamster on July 20, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Good solid batting this morning befitting of the match situation, this is custom made for Prior to come in and bat with freedom and dare I say gay abandon. I was still a little worried last night at 31-3 but now feel England will surely win against Aussie's best 11 (RandyOz, 2013).

  • Hammond on July 20, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    @whofriggincares- I don't see how stating that 31 series to 30 in total is "cooking the stats". If England wins the next two series, then they have won the ashes more than Australia has. Cold hard fact.

  • SirViv1973 on July 20, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @notimeforcricket, Im not totally sure katich is actually eligible as he no longer plays shield cricket. Besides he is 36 they already have rogers opening who is 35, aus just can't keep going backwards with their selections everytine the batting collapses. They have 2 more or less stick with the guys they have & hope that given enough exposure 2 quality bowling they learn their lessons.

  • Pyketts on July 20, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    Please can we stop the calls for the recall of Compton, his method of playing damages the balance in the England team. How can people not see this?

    Taylor, Chopra pretty much anyone but Compton (unless Cook or Trott gets out and then he has a place)

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK, why? Why does root need a 100 to prove himself, if he gets one great, but if he gets out on 80/90, so what he will have batted england into a decent position, probably with close on a 400 run lead, and hopefully the aussies who have already bowled 150 overs this test will be gone allowing the likes of bell, prior and the others to come out and play with freedom.

  • 5wombats on July 20, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    3/114 @lunch and England taking the game away from Australia now. Good conditions for bowling but Australia failing to make any impression. Root playing some good shots but jeez doesn't he look young!!!

  • on July 20, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    mate thats more likely to the fact australian had the most dominant world team during late 1990's till throughout 2000's. the waugh and ponting era saw greatness and england nor any other nation will ever overcome that but in other times england has always been dominant

  • notimeforcricket on July 20, 2013, 11:53 GMT

    My guess is Lehman will call Katich. If you put him somewhere in the top 3 you either slot him straight in at 3 or make him open and put Watson down to 6. Clarke always does across well but seems to fall out with people.... Watson, Katich etc. amazing that Australia have not been opening with Rogers and Katich since Hayden retired

  • whofriggincares on July 20, 2013, 11:39 GMT

    @Hammond , England are no doubt the superior outfit at this point in time. Historically it gets a little tougher to define who is in fact superior. The series wins certainly tell a story but England won seven series in the 1880's before it was a 5 test series . So with the ashes in it's current form (and arguably its most testing format) the aussies are well in front , the head to head test win table has us comfortably in front also 123 to 101. I suppose you can twist the stats to support either argument but a 22 test deficit is hard to argue against.

  • on July 20, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    I think Australia's second innings will answer a very important question, I grew up watching cricket and one thing that has always stuck with me about Australia in the 90's/00's was that they never gave up. No matter the odds, no matter how much of a losing cause. They never stopped playing for the win, or to save the match. I doubt they can beat us even if we declared now, but I want to know if they can show that same Australian fighting spirit, if not, things do not bode well for Australian cricket.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 20, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    Stage set for Root to show what he is capable of. This is not really a pressure cooker situation (with 270+ already on board) There s plenty of time left and he should play some 'selfish' innings now that will also 'benefit' the team.

    Sad this is turning out to be one sided contest.

  • Ankitsuperking on July 20, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    Slowly and steadily England is batting Aus out of the game......

  • on July 20, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    I'm sorry but those of you who think we should have enforced the follow on show a real lack of understanding. You would only enforce the follow on if you were running out of time as you need 20 wickets to win a test match. If England were 233 ahead and it was near the end of day 4 and not day 2 then yes, we need to get on and bowl them out to win the test so enforce the follow on but with so much time left there is no reason to do so.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 20, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    Nothing short of a ton for Root will justify the follow-on, and Root's promotion to open. With the cloudy conditions, England could have bowled Aus. out again this morning. Three Lions got no bite...

  • 5wombats on July 20, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    Ooops - cloudy and much cooler in London today! A bowlers day if ever there was one.....

  • on July 20, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    The thing is... England have Ian Bell to bail them out, and Australia no longer have Mike Hussey

  • on July 20, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    @ Venkatesh: you seem to be forgetting the Agar stumping and the dodgy Trott decision in the first test. Australia only have themselves to blame for not using the DRS as it was designed: for the howler and not plumb LBWs. Being able to bat might help a bit too.

  • Winsome on July 20, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    I don't agree about nothing in 2010/11 feeling this bad. Day one Melbourne was one of my worst experiences as an Aus fan in a very, very long time. Haven't really had my hopes up about this or the next Ashes since. This feels more like situation normal and not anywhere near that barrel scraper.

  • on July 20, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    Australia will feel cheated by umpiring errors in both tests thus far. If it was Darr's error against Broad, in the first ; it was Erasmus's shocking decision against Rogers in the second. If rogers had played on we could have had a different story altogether. The entire umpirig in Tests need to be overhauled. Icc must have 4 umpires /test so that the onfield umpires are rested after every session; for they are feeling the fatigue; also, if a decision is totally wrong, the third umpire [at present] must be given the mandate to sound the on field umpire, to reverse the error.

  • Hammond on July 20, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    An interesting stat I read the other day- Australia have won 31 ashes test series since 1882. England have won 30. If England win the next two ashes series then they are historically and presently the superior cricket team.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    @thegreatSirVIV, heres a question for you, you've just spent 8 hours in 30+ degree heat bowling, you get to sit down and put your feeup in the shade and watch the other team and your batsmen put some runs on the board, however within 5 hours you're 233 runs adrift and waiting for the opposition to come in to the dressing room.

    Whats the last thing you want to do when the temperature is 30+ degrees? for me its to be put back in to field for another 2-3 sessions of toil.

    you also have to consider that by day 4 (if we get that far) this could be a very helpful pitch for spinners.

  • Keshavaram on July 20, 2013, 8:47 GMT

    Each & every country will go through a bad phase. The main thing is 2nd & 3rd string should be ready to take the mantle.More than ODIS have test matches.This shows the capacity of the team,captaincy & the individuals. No doubt Swann iw a great bowler.Taking a 5 wkt haul is some thing great that to @ Lord's the house of cricket.Main thing is Aus dropping Starc where is a useful batsmen coming @ 10 & scoring.

  • on July 20, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    Australian batting, so disappointing. Haven't seen such a fragile batting order since the late 70's. No batsmen instills confidence. Don't understand why Haddin is rated so highly, he watched edges go past him and first slip twice today but I suppose he had a good day by his standards as there were no byes for a change. The bowling attack is good but that is of no consequence when the batsmen are unable to post a defendable score. The line up can be chopped and changed but outside of Clarke, no one else could be considered a world class batsmen. Sadly, just don't know what the future holds. I shouldn't be too despondent though, at least I got to see Australia dominate for nigh on twenty years and if you had of told me that after the 86/87 season I wouldn't have believed you.

  • Chris_P on July 20, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    @landl47. I didn't see that, but then again I usually skip the meaningless posters & read the intelligent posts, unless, as Meety suggests, it is a slow day. Anyone who has seen Khawaja bat at the SCG wouldn't have called for his inclusion. BTW, not knocking Anderson, just refer our lot.

  • Ankitsuperking on July 20, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Austrailia is getting a dose of its own medicine. They have demolished so many sides in last 20 years or so. Now it's there turn. It would be difficult for their fans to handle it as they are not used to such performances on a consistent basis.

  • Chris_P on July 20, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    @5wombats. Cheers. I got no problem getting "stick" if warranted, I don't when I play cricket too, but I also like to deliver when the coin is the other way too, so feel free to gloat all you want, you deserve it! Winners are grinners & the rest can please themselves! As I have offered in other posts, our bowling & reserves appears strong, but batting is a real worry, & has been for a while too. No short term fix is on the horizon, it will be a little wait for the next batting generation to come through.

  • on July 20, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    @Chaddock C Root. I have been thinking the same thing since Compton was dropped. But who would we drop for Compton? Pieterson?

  • Chris_P on July 20, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    @Yogesh Vengurlekar. Are you the president of the Shaun Marsh fan club? He isn't even in the Western Australian shield side due to lack of runs scored, fyi 142 runs @19 last season. David Hussey had a poor season as did White. I would suggest form should be a factor for selection.

  • Pyketts on July 20, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    Got to love the drama being created in the first two matches, brilliant stuff which is partly due to some challenging pitches and partly due to some questionable batting. Would much prefer these type of games to those on flat tracks around the world where batsman can stroll to big scores due to the lack of life in a pitch.

    There's a lot of talk on here about how Aus will have the best bowling attack in the world in 2-4 years but I just don't see it. Agar is young but not that impressive (bowling wise), Smith is a part time bowler, Siddle is just a work horse, Pattinson over rated and Harris (the only world class one amongst them) is too injury prone and might not be playing in two years.

    Are there some youngsters who haven't made the test squad that I don't know about?

  • thegreatSirVIV on July 20, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Why did eng not enforce the follow on? Aus batting already in disaray and eng only fielded 53.3 overs not even two sessions

  • JG2704 on July 20, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa on (July 19, 2013, 23:27 GMT) A bit harsh there. I seem to remember Clarke dominating SA in the previous 2 tests. On each occasion he came in when Aus were in trouble and turned the tables. In both those games Aus ended up on top.

    @Nampally on (July 19, 2013, 21:19 GMT) Clarke needs to bat where he is most effective and comfortable. He seems out of nick at the moment but if he was in nick , if you move him up to 3 you still have the vulnerability in the lower mid area. BTW - do you seriously not consider him to be WC?

  • on July 20, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Dark days of Australian cricket. Ricky, Hussey, Bevan bring them back from retirwment!!!!!!!

  • on July 20, 2013, 8:04 GMT

    @gohar. I don't watch t20. It's so meaningless. This is test cricket! Please don't try to make it the meaningless drivel you seem to like.

  • 5wombats on July 20, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    @Chris_P. Lots of thoughts here; plenty of times in the period 1989-2005 I had to switch off my TV and go and do some long neglected chore, OR, switch off my radio and go to sleep dreading to wake up for the fear that I would sooner or later have to find out what Australia had done to England overnight. Other times I have had to grin and bear it at grounds here or in Aus. Plenty of times I thought that my side was an embarrassment when compared to Australia. So I know how you guys feel right now. English cricket got itself into a mess in the 80's due complacency and bad top management. Now Australian cricket is in a mess. I know that there has been a battle within CA for the heart and soul of Aussie cricket - hinted at by the knowledgeable sections of the Aus press. But what we've got here @Lords is a symptom - the cause was what CA did after 2005, perhaps before. In fact mate - this game at Lords is poor cricket, I include England in that. England have also become complacent. Cont...

  • on July 20, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    I think after India had beaten AUS 4-0, the aussie selectors should have selected batsman like Shaun Marsh, David Hussey, Cameron White. They are good players of spin and would have negated the effect of Swann. I think this is the weakest aussie team in terms of batting. The Selectors have to do a rethink if they dont want to lose the series 5-0.

  • VinodGupte on July 20, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    it is embarrassing to watch this australian side. i am sure traditionally weak teams (in recent past) such as WI, ZIM, NZ and BAN can put up a better show than them. they are missing katich, hussey and even ponting.

  • Kumaranuj on July 20, 2013, 7:23 GMT

    "HOW NOT TO BAT" if any one wants to learn this, please see AUS batting in the match, in fact in the series so far. Bowling at the movement is good for AUS but batting, what to say about batting...., the worst batting display of AUS from some time, I ever seen. It seems all the AUS batsmen have competing for worst batting display. I think if BANG & ZIM play some better, they can beat AUS in test match at the movement

  • SherjilIslam on July 20, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    @sreehk:"The most fascinating England attack ever seen was: Hoggard, Harmison, Flintoff, Simon Jones, and Jiles." Absolutely agree. I really doubt England can ever produce the same kind of attack again.

  • VivGilchrist on July 20, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    All referrals aside, How on earth did Erasmus give Rogers out?

  • Aus2013 on July 20, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Aus dominant batting period gone...If Aus have to win the Ashes..they got to play positive against Swanny..got to place their innings against Ande & broad..poor team selection cost them..young rookies are eligible to play only first class cricket not intl matches...drop Hughes,rogers and khwaja..bring in some experience players Shawn Marsh, David hussey and cameron white..Eng are always pretty week against the spin attack...Aus got to go with Jason Kreza and Hauritz/Dohery..I am sure the Eng team will bundle out for less than 150...Aus will win the Ashes series...Bell might have got back to back double century...bring in spin bowlers..Bell will out for a single digit..cutrails will be down for the Eng..Will Watto play only in IPL..Watto,Haddin & Clarke has to play..they are the only experience players in the team...where is Mitchell Johnson....

  • on July 20, 2013, 6:20 GMT

    HAHA ! Still i cant figure it out why all these people are blaming WATSON ?? !!!!!

  • gm47 on July 20, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    What happened to gsingh7.... He's been very quiet recently. Please don't be embarrassed to return with your funny predictions :)

  • sreehk on July 20, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    England bowling has been boring to watch. For some reasons despite figures in the match and 1-0 result, England's bowling attack has not been up to the mark. Aussies have moved from invincible to tentative mode which has been apparent in their batting and approach. Except for Anderson's class, England's attack is neither effective nor eye catching. They simply don't have a back up to sustain the pressure created by Anderson. England did not deserve those many wickets and it was evident that Aussies threw wickets like a club side. Broad has been mediocre and wonder why he has been persisted with. The attack clearly lacks variety. Instead though stats are against Aussies their bowling variety with 6 bowlers has been interesting. If only they could attack like a pack, the results could be different. The most fascinating England attack ever seen was: Hoggard, Harmison, Flintoff, Simon Jones, and Jiles.

  • on July 20, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    Kindly bring in Simon Katich and Warner

  • on July 20, 2013, 6:00 GMT

    Australia did not lose 10 wickets for 86. They lost 10 wickets for 128. You have to count the first wicket partnership. Commentators always make this mistake, especially at the end of an innings, e.g. England's first innings at Trent Bridge, when it was reported that they lost the last 4 wickets for 2 runs, ignoring the 7th wicket partnership. They actually lost the last 4 wickets for 35 runs.

  • landl47 on July 20, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    Very few people seem to be giving Peter Siddle any credit for his spell this evening during England's second innings. I thought he bowled really well, pitching the ball up and getting lots of movement. Yes, he got a couple of played ons and a wild thrash from Pietersen, but the wickets were caused by the pressure he put on the batsmen (just as Swann's wickets were).

    England are in a good position, but still have plenty of work to do to put this game away.

    @Chris_P: all through the India tour various Australian posters (though not you) were saying that Khawaja played spin well and should be in the side. He showed no sign of that today. As far as Anderson is concerned, he was a late developer due to some bad advice in his early years. Take his figures since Saker became bowling coach and any young Aus bowler who has better career figures will be a great bowler.

  • alarky on July 20, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Where have all the batsmen gone, Long time passing? Where have all the batsmen gone, Long time ago? Where have all the batsmen gone? T/20 spoilt them everyone! When will they ever learn? When all their millions done!

    By: Alarky

  • on July 20, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    I personally was disgusted with our bleak performance. What with all the messing up of the DRS and other failures even a big bash team could beat our team. I know I will not stop up and watch it anymore. It is so boring as Sricula said and a forgone conclusion. The team needs a complete shakedown

  • cric_J on July 20, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    @Landl47 : Spot on assessment with the "myths" and "truths" there. Loved it !

  • balajik1968 on July 20, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    Some very bad batting by Australia. I think there is something fundamentally wrong with this Aussie side, even in their worst days, they had some decent batsmen, here the batting is all over the place. 5-0 looks to be a distinct possibility.

  • bringbackhaydos on July 20, 2013, 5:27 GMT

    Yes the batting is not good at the moment, but I would like to highlight another problem that Australia have. That is the wicket-keeping of Haddin. He missed to catches yesterday, add a couple in the first test. I know he was brought into the team for his leadership and batting but his wicket-keeping needs to be his first priority. There have been 4 or 5 catches dropped in this series and quite a few byes conceded by haddin. I believe Wade and Paine would provide similar results or maybe even better. But to fix the inconsistent wicket-keeping Chris Hartley would be my first choice keeper. Very experienced and almost faultless with the gloves. Wicket-keeping is to important to trade of for a few extra runs from the keeper. If he misses catches and gives byes any extra runs are lost by mistakes.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    @WheresTheEmpire, what can i say I'm a glass half empty kind of person. I've seen england implode before from winning positions against Aus, and to be honest i think its still a good wicket if you apply yourself.

    anything over 350 and Australia have a marginal probability of winning but will need the top 5 wickets to average 50-60 runs/wicket leaving a 100 runs required from the tail which is well within their averages.

  • Mitty2 on July 20, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    Terrible, terrible, terrible. Many predicted a humiliation for all the batsmen but the bowlers to hold their heads high... Well it looks like those predictions are eventuating. Apart from Smith's dismissal and Clarke's... All were self-inflicted as Boof said. Maybe we should be English and blame it on complacency ;). No real good bowling and Swann;s 5 was pretty fortunate as he stated although he bowled with pressure. Broad has improved but he still isn't a huge threat, the over bowling of Anderson looks to have taken a toll on him in this innings, but sorry @landl47, it's not the overall bowling that's reliant on Anderson, the pacemen are completely reliant on him. He sets the standards, and for the most part, Broad was innocuous and Bresnan got two from shocking shots.

    What's so bad about this innings was the fact that no one tried to fight it out. No one played with grit and everyone succumbed from pressure. We will get out of this 2-0, but please show some resilience.

  • Meaon on July 20, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    Australian team disappointed there fans badly

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 5:12 GMT

    @Sweatspot, given the fact this was day 2 what is the last thing the australians would want to do given that the temperature was 30+ at lords?

    While Aus got 3 early wickets England still look at being able to post a total that is well beyond Australia on a pitch that is getting more and more spin friendly. It should be cooler today, but the england bowlers should get a session or two to put thier feet up and have a nice massage, ice bath and cornetto.

  • cric_J on July 20, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    @shan156 : Totally agree that Cook should have sent a night watchman for Trott and KP. Even if he didn't do it at 1 down , he surely should have done it at 2 down.

    I also agree with you that it is unfair to say that Swanny was gifted a five for. The Rogers' dismissal was a lucky one and Haddin played a poor shot. The other 3 were well deserved though. Also he bowled a lot of terrific bowls that would have gotten him a wkt another day so it all evens out.

    And yeah , forget about man to man. Even all their Aussie bowlers put together don't have as many wickets as Jimmy and aren't half as good as him. Also I rate Broady much higher than Pattinson , Starc and Harris and almost at par with Siddle. You could attribute that to my bias but he does have almost 200 test wkts and anyone who has that can't be as poor as people make him out to be.

    On another note , Cook now has only two tons in 17 innings which is dreadful by his standards. What worries me even more is he hasn't LOOKED solid.

  • ADB1 on July 20, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Some of the articles written on cricinfo this series have been laughable. The English bowlers were not "lucky" - they built pressure through some good, tight bowling, and the Australian batsmen succumbed.

    I'm worried Australia will thrash us in the second innings though, what with the English attack being so dependant on Anderson (sarc). And especially as the pitch is clearly a batsman's paradise - I mean, who am I to point out that unusual weather has made a mockery of pitch predictions, and 16 wickets just fell in a day?

  • DavoWilly on July 20, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    It seems to me that normal circumspect batting is pretty useless against this Eng bowling attack. Perhaps a full on Aust attacking line up for next test? : Watson, Rogers, Warner, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Faulkner, Siddle, Starc, Harris, Bird. Four quicks and an attacking all-rounder , fewer out of form or unsure players and Smith as spinner. Radical, but Aust set to lose 5-0 , so why not give it a try. Reckon Boof would love it!

  • sweetspot on July 20, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    @Chad950 - That was the ball passing the bat. That's why it vanished in the next frame.

  • sweetspot on July 20, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    Did Tim Bresnan have a date he couldn't afford to be sweaty for? What exactly is the reason for not enforcing the follow on? Why does Cook want his team spending needless time on the field through this safety route?

  • samincolumbia on July 20, 2013, 4:46 GMT

    Another test, another mockery of DRS. Time to acknowledge that India was correct and get on it with it, pre-DRS.

  • on July 20, 2013, 4:45 GMT

    Dylan Young you seem to know little about cricketers. Jaques has retired from Australuan first class cricket to play for Yorkshire as a local player due to his English parents. Katch has also retired from playing for NSW. Give the players a bteak. Hughes bstted beautifully at Trent Bridge as did Smith who has the second best average to Clarke over the last four tests. They will come good if given an extended run. Not sure about Khawaja though. Warner has double his talent.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 20, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    @Shan156 - so when our guys manage to get wickets, they weren't really earned, it must just be the charitable nature of the ENG top order, then? I suppose Swanny earned that howler from Rogers? To my way of thinking, the OZ bowlers have well & truly performed; I would even go so far as to say that they have even slightly out-performed their ENG counterparts. After all, compare the two batting line-ups. Many of the recent posts have lamented the ineptitude of the OZ batting (me included), highlighting the vast superiority of the ENG batsmen in terms of experience, career averages, hundreds scored, and so forth. Fair enough, but you can't have it both ways. I am 100% certain that if the OZ bowlers had the opportunity to bowl against the OZ top order, the same level of carnage would ensue. Which top order would you prefer a crack at? Given the relatively placid natures of the wickets, hands up how many people think the SA top order would be in such a state of disarray?

  • Sricula on July 20, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    This Australian team appears to be weak in both bowling and batting department. Considering the way the batting panics and the lack of application it may well be a 5-0 verdict in favour of the English Team. One always looks forward for an Ashes battle however this is so hopelessly one sided that watching it is also quite boring. The results are a foregone conclusion. One only hopes the Australians show more spirit in the remaining tests.

  • on July 20, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    The bad old days of the mid 80s are back, no doubts about it.

  • MTA_Mounties on July 20, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Taking it to the second level, what has happened to Australian cricket and how does it get fixed? I lived Down Under in the c Marsh b Lillee days and Border and Chappell took care of the batting duties. What is with the complete ineptitude of Clarke, Cowan, Hughes, Watson et al? Damn....I played cricket too..sign me to a national contract and I can get bowled out for a duck or score one or two runs too! Australia Cricket...fix this test horrorshow NOW...scrap T20 and concentrate the resources on ODI and Test.

    --a pissed off Canadian who is half Aussie at heart and is puking at the Oz Ashes performance.

  • GrtIndia_Ann on July 20, 2013, 4:22 GMT

    And as the series drags itself...I see it nothing more than a one sided dead stuff....despite all the claims and blind beliefs of the Aussie fans regarding pulling a miracle from here on...I still could only see a waning Aussie side like windies of 90s....I may probably prefer watching a good contest going on between windies and Pak.......enough of the extra hype that this Ashes is receiving....Its nothing more than an age old tradition losing its excitement that it had once...

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 20, 2013, 4:20 GMT

    Given the nature of the OZ batting at the moment, IND might even be a chance of winning an away series in Australia the next time they tour here - a feat they've never managed to achieve. If ENG continue to dominate in this series, they will surely wrestle the #2 ranking away from IND - which means IND will have to beat SA in SA later this year (around the same time as the Ashes begin in OZ). Good luck with that one, because SA are clearly the best team in the world at the moment, and as an OZ fan I am flabbergasted we only lost 1-0 in the three test series against them at home a little over 6 months ago. Imagine what the score-line would have been had Clarke not dominated with the bat and without the stabilising efforts of Hussey in that series?

  • on July 20, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    IN: Phil Jaques, Simon Katich, Brad Hodge, James Faulkner OUT: Shane Watson, Phil Hughes, Usman Khawaja, Steven Smith

  • YorkshirePudding on July 20, 2013, 4:09 GMT

    @SirViv1973, I'm saying anything is possible, with the amount of time left in the game. England need another 90 runs to get a 350 run lead, and 140 to get 400, I think anything over 400 means its improbable that aus can win but never say never.

    The pitch isnt that bad if you apply yourself, and with say 200 overs to chase 400 you are looking at 2 runs an over.

  • Greatest_Game on July 20, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    @ YorkshirePudding. Well said - thank heavens for some common sense! This is test cricket, not the Tour de France. It aint over till its over. Any result is possible. The only guarantee is that all these predictions will be wrong. More twists & turns to come!

  • on July 20, 2013, 3:59 GMT

    Why wasn't the follow-on imposed? Maybe i'm a synic? If Australia had been asked to bat again, they might well have been all out again by Saturday lunchtime. So no cricket on Saturday afternoon, all day Sunday and Monday. How much money would have been lost? The decision was made. I hope it doesn't backfire on England. Money rules...not cricket.

  • jmcilhinney on July 20, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    As an England fan, I'm happy that England are on top in this game and will likely go on to win it and the series. That said, I reckon SA must be sitting back watching this and feeling rather confident about staying above both teams in the rankings for the foreseeable future.

  • jmcilhinney on July 20, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    There may yet be more excitement in this game but that seems to be down to the poor batting on both sides as much as anything else. The bowling has been good form most bowlers but not great and not good enough to warrant the collapses on both sides. Rogers is the only batsman who really has any grounds to be dirty about his dismissal. I guess Agar does too but then only at his partner for ignoring his call for a comfortable single.

    I can understand Cook's decision not to enforce the follow-on and have no gripe with it. The problem is that England looked very tentative when batting and that has exposed them somewhat. I'm confident that Root will work out as an opener but he's obviously feeling the heat right now and is very lucky to still be there. Australia will feel that they're still in the game with England 31/3 but would even moreso if it was 31/4. The problem is, even if they can skittle England for 100, they're still favourites to lose.

  • heathrf1974 on July 20, 2013, 3:05 GMT

    @Greatest Game. I think you make a good point. It seems to be difficult batting out there and the performance by Bairstow and Bell could be one of the major differences between the sides. However, some dumb batting by Australia, especially Khawaja. Those sorts of shots can cost players test careers.

  • on July 20, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    No hotspot. No edge. No wicket. Are u stupid

  • Shaggy076 on July 20, 2013, 3:00 GMT

    The bowlers for Australia are performing, we have managed to get Cook, Pietersen and Trott to low averages this series. But that batting was woeful. I have stuck up for them and believe they have a lot more talent than displayed today. Watson exactly the same mistake as last game both times you were completely on top of the English bowlers, Rogers dodgy dismissal but seriously how did you miss it, Khawaja looked like getting out every ball and to go with the uncertain running between wickets not sure you have the mental fortitude to compete at this level, Hughes so much improvement in the first game and then a wild heave, Clarke it was a legitiamate half volley. Give Smith a bit of leeway as the bowler contributed to that dismissal. Then Haddin what the hell were you thinking switch on when you play cricket that run-out was appalling. This wicket is an absolute belter yet the scores do not show that.

  • Akshita29 on July 20, 2013, 2:58 GMT

    Well have to say this has been really poor from the Aussies . The top order really seams to have no ability at all . And Cook and Kp seems to be struggling with form too . Kp in particular has thrown away his wicket at least twice in the series . But even with two of England's top batsmen out of form, Aus does nt seem to have any chance in the series as there own batting has been pathetic so far . And clarke may be a good strategist ( often proved by some of his bold declarations in some matches the start of his duty as capatin ) but he is not a good leader at all . The way he had removed katich and then he had ponting dropped (in one dayers)in the middle of VB series and the way Hussey told after his retirement that he was scared that he might not even get to play a farewell series had he declared his retirement earlier leads one to believe clarke always wanted a team of his own . This is where Cook is way better than clarke in being a leader who is respected by every member in the team . Yes clarke does not have the best team yet but he has failed badly as captain . Since the retirement of Hussey they are already 0-5 in test cricket and it could be 0-9 soon.

  • on July 20, 2013, 2:51 GMT

    australia need to make plenty of changes to the team to win test matches again. our top 4 batsmen are shambolic. cowan, hughes, khawaja and Watson are teriible. pattinson and starc are very inconsistent. they bowl leak boundries too many times. ashton agar also needs rest. he looks tired in second test match. my lineup for third test match will be: 1.rogers( he has been very unlucky needs to be given more matches) 2.watson 3.doolan (we need to pick alex doolan asap) 4.clarke 5.smith 6.warner 7.haddin 8. peter siddle 9.ryan harris 10. ahmed 11. bird

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 20, 2013, 2:37 GMT

    @Nutcutlet - yep, when you look at all of the cricket played thus far, Bell has definitely been the biggest difference between the two sides. He deserves far more praise and accolades for the achievements of the ENG team to this point than any other player. He is the main reason the ENG bowlers have had some decent totals to defend - definite Man of the Series thus far. He certainly makes the opposition work hard for his wicket - something the OZ top order have to take note of. I just dread the moment when Cook and KP start hitting their straps - along with Trott (who's been guilty of throwing his wicket away after all of the hard work had been done). Hopefully, OZ can show some much needed fight in the 2nd innings, especially the top 6 (not the last 5).

  • on July 20, 2013, 2:36 GMT

    australia need to make some serious changes to their batting lineup. cowan, khawaja, hughes and Watson don't deserve to bat in top 4 or even top six. chris rogers has been very unlucky in this series. he will come good for australia soon. the rest there need to be changes soon. we need to bring alex doolan and david warner(hopefully he scores run in south Africa) in time for the third test match. alex doolan has plenty of potential to be world class. im also hoping and praying we can produce consistent run scorers in domestic cricket next season. nic maddinson, Jordan silk and joe burns have potential but need consistency next season. I also want young u19 players given opportunity. guys like jake doran and ben McDermott are quality young players.

  • on July 20, 2013, 2:35 GMT

    What I was thinking is that t20 game finishes in about 3 hrs, still if their is a tie, people just can't wait for the results & there is a super over to make a decision. In test cricket, Players & spectators waste 5 important days of their lives & mostly the game ends up in a draw. What I'm suggesting is that their should be a super innings concept in Test & one days in case of a tie or a draw to make cricket more exciting.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 20, 2013, 2:21 GMT

    @Nampally - so Clarke is not a world-class batsmen? What's your criteria? You don't like him, so he's not world-class. Everybody, from the day the first ball was bowled in Test cricket, has peaks and troughs in form. Clarke is going through a 'lean' period at the moment. It happens, and he can't be expected to carry the batsmen in each and every series. Which he has basically done over the last 2 years. The rest need to step up and be counted - whether they're good enough to is another thing. You also can't make a #5 batsmen bat #3 just because the team needs it. Why not ask him to open? I suspect that Clarke's back will take a turn for the worse toward the end of the series - it won't surprise me if he misses the 4th or 5th test due to injury if we go 3-0 down after the third. Unfortunately, most of our current woes can be traced back to the departure of Hussey. The ACB dropped the pill on that one!

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on July 20, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    Never thought I'd witness this, but Australian Cricket is in a shambles. But, no matter which way you look at it, Khawaja, Cowan, Hughes are not cut out for the big-leagues. Watson and Warner barely make it. Its painful to watch. And someone said it right - Clarke's a good tactician, but not a leader. Its messy.

  • Chris_Howard on July 20, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    England's most cunning - and successful - tactic is to continue talking up the Australians and inflating their egos.

  • on July 20, 2013, 1:42 GMT

    In a year and a bit, and NOT counting any nightwatchman shifts in this, in various test matches former Ashes opener Hughes has batted at 6,5,3 and 4. Khawaja at 3,4,5, 6; Smith at 6, 7, 5 and 4, Clarke at 5 and 4, Cowan at 1 and 3, Watson at 1, 3, and 4, Haddin at 6 and 7, and now they want Warner to return at 4 instead of the very crucial no 3. Not the best way to give your batsmen some confidence.

  • on July 20, 2013, 1:35 GMT

    If 2 early wickets fall, Pietersen falls to the swinging new ball. Once he is settled, KP can play swing and reverse swing, but not when he is not. Bell has batted even at No "3" in test cricket, and opened in ODIs with aplomb when in form. As hurtful as it might be to KP, Bell at 4 and KP at 5 makes a lot more sense; in the long run KP would be thankful. And I say again, if England has wickets turning on day 1 or 2, then they might as well they find a spot for Monty at the expense of Bairstow because if the third seamer can bat a bit like Bresnan or Woakes, Prior can go at 6.

  • Min2000 on July 20, 2013, 1:24 GMT

    Australia hasn't looked that bad during this series, but a lot of the key moments (particularly umpiring decisions) seem to be going England's way. Allowing England's tail to slog their way to 361 spoiled all the good work that was done on day one. The momentum shifted, and then spiralled downwards with Watson's ludicrous decision to review his LBW. Khawaja certainly isn't the answer - they should look to someone like David Hussey. He is 36-years old, but he's a gutsy player and Aussie needs some steel in their top 6.

  • on July 20, 2013, 1:14 GMT

    where's hussey?

  • Chazzaca on July 20, 2013, 1:07 GMT

    History would have to be made for the Aussies to get up. If England declared at 31/3 it would still need the 3rd highest run chase at Lord's to even the series. Below are all the successful run chases at Lord's - not a happy hunting ground for 4th innings teams!!


  • Amith_S on July 20, 2013, 1:06 GMT

    @Rizzy02 well said, Khawaja will come through for us, this was only his first innigs@Nicholas Wood i still think Watson is our best opener with Rogers. He just needs to kick on more. Khawaja is our best 3 and this was his first innings so give the kid the series to prove himself which i am sure he can do as he has only had 1 innings whereas Cowan had 20 tests in a row to prove himse.f. Not happy with how we again misused our reviews today. Watson and Hughes have alot to learn in this area.@JonoMakim were you watching the same game, Khawaja called the single to Clarke and was a clear yes call from him, there was no hesitation there.

  • on July 20, 2013, 0:58 GMT

    Today's pathetic efforts at Lords and Zinbabwe confirm that Aust' s batting cupboard is absolutely bare. Outside of of Clarke (maybe an inform Warner - maybe) there is no batsmen in our first class system up to test standard. Even if Aust cricket gets everything right tomorrow, which is highly unlikely, it will still take Aust 18 months - 2 years to get even close to being competitive again. I suggest Boof and Clarke spend some quality time with AB, the last Aust captain who had to deal with such mediocrity. The good news is that through hard work and grit Border and Simpson led Ausralia into a golden age of cricket so it can be done. It will however be a long hard road.

  • Chris_P on July 20, 2013, 0:54 GMT

    @Greatest_Game. That 47 was not as bad as this woeful effort. Prior to Australia's capitulation, South Africa lost 9/46 with the wicket very helpful to bowlers. Yesterday's effort was abysmal as the wicket was fine for batting, and yes, you do need to be a cricket historian, not a stats researcher to find such answers. Having seen both innings, this one stands head & shoulders as a far worse batting effort, and by some margin as well.

  • on July 20, 2013, 0:51 GMT

    Right, time to rearrange the Titanic deck chairs...

    Here's my last gasp side, cobbled together from the sorry remnants of this squad, in batting order:

    Watson, Rogers, Clarke, Hughes, Warner, Smith, Haddin, Faulkner, Harris, Bird, Lyon.

    Bird's ideal for Manchester and English conditions generally. As a fighting all-rounder, Faulkner has a bit of mongrel in him, so he comes in for Pattinson. Warner has the pugnacity for a fight, so bye bye Khawaja. Lyon comes in for Agar. Time now to see sense, and pick a proper, proven spinner - and one who's improved a good deal of late.

    I can't guarantee this lot won't get slapped either, but hey, let's share the slapping around, I say!

  • on July 20, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    Michael Clarke moved back to number 5 where he averages 63, because at no.4 he only averages 21. He promoted Agar to no.8, after seeing his debut innings of 98 but really Agar should move back to no.11 where he averages 98, because at no.8 he averages only 8.

    Agar is in the team for his bowling but now he already has being outbowled by Smith and may have to make way for Lyon.

  • on July 20, 2013, 0:17 GMT

    I love test cricket, especially the Ashes for all the right reasons. But this one innings from Aussies is such a show! There was no good bowling, there was no exceptional fielding, there was no genius of captaincy; Aussies threw their wickets right and left. Ashes will become like any other test series. Better to find some old videos of Ashes with McGrath, Warne, Pointing and Waugh.

  • poms_have_short_memories on July 20, 2013, 0:14 GMT

    Although Australia's batting in this series has, as a whole been woeful, neither teams top order has performed overly well. The difference in from a batting viewpoint has been Ian Bell, if he had of failed so far in this series Australia would have won the first test and been about 120-130 behind on the 1st innings at Lords, but with all said and done, it's obvious that England are a superior team, from a batting viewpoint.

  • jackiethepen on July 20, 2013, 0:03 GMT

    Would Swann know how many runs were a par score? Bell said the wicket was very dry and he was pleased with the day's result. It turns out he was right. Anyone remember the Oval in 2009? Willis said it was a 600 pitch. Australia - and they were a good side - got 160. I don't know why England are supposed to be in a good position. We've lost our 'run makers' Cook, Trott, and KP. We've got two rookies, Prior out of form and the tail - and Bell. Is he supposed to rescue England again? Isn't this getting a bit silly? At some point Bell is going to get a good ball early. Then what? If the top order keep collapsing then it might have been a better bet to go for the follow on. Hos long is Root going to last? Or Bairstow? Well I hope they show us what they can do tomorrow.

  • Biggus on July 20, 2013, 0:03 GMT

    In 1989 when we landed in England to contest the Ashes we were dubbed 'The Worst Team Ever' to contest the urn for Australia. We all know how that ended up. This team has been similarly dubbed, and this time they're right if yesterday is anything to go by. I don't believe I've seen a more hapless bunch to wear the Baggy Green, excepting one or two of the team. Most of our batsman seem to suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder and display a lack of application that would have been considered egregious in any of the schoolboy teams I played with in the '70s, let alone any club sides I turned out for later on. Time players like Watson lost that prima donna attitude and started playing for the team. What a bunch of 'modern men', more conversant with jewelry and hair product than batting technique. Never did I think we'd be so poor again as we were during the Packer years and early '80s but here we are and it sure feels like it, and we don't even have the Windies super team as an excuse!

  • dunger.bob on July 20, 2013, 0:02 GMT

    Well, that's a bit of comedy by our boys. .. Let's see how many different ways we can give this English crowd a few laughs ... Good job if that was the aim. ..

    On the face of it, England could declare over-night and have the match wrapped up be tea-time tomorrow. There's no way we can chase 280 on the evidence presented so far.

    All I can do is laugh. It's either that or cry. ... Anyway, the match isn't actually over yet and I believe we are still waiting for Mary McKillops 3rd miracle, so, who knows, it may get interesting if Mary delivers.

  • funkyandy on July 20, 2013, 0:02 GMT

    If Aussie lose this, that will be SEVEN TEST MATCH DEFEATS IN A ROW!!!!

  • CustomKid on July 19, 2013, 23:58 GMT

    What a disgraceful day of cricket. I'm embarrassed to say I'm an Aussie represented by this rabble. Swan could have rolled underarm deliveries and taken 5 so poor were the australian batsmen today. Even he looked embarrassed taking wickets of such low quality. 0-5 here we come

  • OneEyedAussie on July 19, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    Here is some interesting trivia: 1) The last Australian batsmen to score a century was in the first test against India. It was Michael Clarke and it was five tests ago. 2) The last non-Michael Clarke batsmen to score centuries were Wade ( 6 tests ago) and Hussey in the Sri Lankan series. Both of these players will not play in this series. 3) Going back further to the SA series, the non-MC batsmen scoring centuries were Warner, Cowan and Hussey. These players will not take part in this series. 4) Watson and Haddin's last century was three years ago. Rogers, Khawaja and Smith have never scored one (and there is quite a few tests between them).

    So the question is: where are the runs going to come from?

  • on July 19, 2013, 23:44 GMT

    Seems to me like there is either no game plan [this is hard to believe in a professional set up like Australia] or more likely it is a combination of lack of skill and inadequate leadership from the more experienced members of the team. Question to be asked [with regards to skills] and answered are Why did it take Australia so long to realize that the domestic first class set up is inadequate?? What is going on with Watson? Is he a selfish/jealous player who is undermining Clarke's leadership and setting a bad example? In which case, what use is a rotten apple? I am reading that Big Bash is to be blamed. This league is one [two?] years old. And, it destroyed the structure of the 4-day game? It could be more to do with the coaching, identifying and nurturing of players.watching the Australian batsmen, I am not sure that they are capable of turning it around. Clarke the leader of the batting pack is out of touch, Watson is selfish and Rogers disappointing. Australia is in a tight spot.

  • SaracensBob on July 19, 2013, 23:27 GMT

    Who would be an Aussie bowler? At Trent Bridge England choose to bat and succumb to 215 all out - great work from the Aussie attack. But with Aus at 117 for 9 it takes the 'Agar miracle' to keep them in the match. Here at Lord's Eng again choose to bat and are restricted to 361 on a pitch where par score for 1st Inns is surely 450-plus; more great work from the Aus attack! No miracle last wicket stand to save the batsmen from ignominy this time. 450-plus is still par batting second. 128 means the match has gone (despite Peter Siddle's 3 wickets before close). On the evidence in their 3 innings to date I can see Aus being knocked over cheaply time and time again. I predicted this series as a 2-1 Eng win but despite the best efforts of the Aussie bowlers it is beginning to look more likely to be 5-0 England. One more point - tomorrow is going to be a very big day for Joe Root.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on July 19, 2013, 23:27 GMT

    Clarke is such a cop-out. As soon as the situation gets tough he gives it away. He did it in the 3rd test Aus vs SA in Perth. He is good for 1st innings totals when there is no pressure. Why isnt he batting at No.3 - clearly he is the only top 5 batsman who can actually bat. 5-0 England.

  • Chris_P on July 19, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    @ landl47. Not sure who claimed Khawaja could play spin, but as you know from my posts, he always did struggle at the SCG when I saw him on the only real track down here that usually spins & is a tough batting track. It was only when he left for Queensland that he rediscovered his batting form. And of course, your comments on Watson is spot on, a subject I have been active on for a while yet. Selfish, a protected species, call it what you like, but totally undeserving of a test place. @shan156, it is your pov & you're entitled to it, but I'll take our lot & wouldn't mind betting they'll leave cricket with a better average than Anderson when they all call it a day. You can add Cummins & Hazelwood to that mix as well. Only my pov, but I am very strong on it.

  • Chris_P on July 19, 2013, 23:17 GMT

    @5wombats. Nothing wrong in calling as it is. And believe me, there is plenty to call out. As you know by a few of my postings, I was ready for this, but the lack of fight is even more frustrating. I feel for our bowlers, the immediate problem is that there is nobody on the horizon short term batting wise & I get to watch a few shield games. Plenty of bowlers coming through, a couple of spinners, but the batting front is geared to the T20 garbage with the concentration levels to boot.

  • on July 19, 2013, 23:10 GMT

    ICC continues to be biased organization of International Cricket. There should be some guidelines for awarding hall of fame. Being Australian or English should not be the criteria. I see no point in inducting Shane Warne before Muttiah Muralitharan. I know Shane Warne is a great spinner. But this is not ethical from an International governing body

  • A_Vacant_Slip on July 19, 2013, 23:06 GMT

    Tut, tut very very bad indeed from Australia. I said on other board that this Aussie side is average and England will take first inning lead. Many people pessimistic disagree but now we see that Aussie batting really isn't that good. Well, I never thought lead will be so big! Australia are mentally very fragile. They do not know how to bat long. Evidence is right here today. Their bowling flatter to deceive - they have acute problem with spinner not resolved by "miracle" 19 year old. Their fast bowler not so good dos not live up to hype. In short, Australia in deep hole starring up at fellow with big gun.

  • tests_the_best on July 19, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    This batting display should hurt Aus on multiple levels. When Aus batting failed over and over in India, one would have assumed it was because of unfamiliar subcontinental/spinning tracks and that they would fare better in England. The bowling also struggled a bit in India but one could always back the pacers to perform much better outside the subcontinent which they actually have admirably done so far in England.

    However no such redemption for the batsmen so far. One must not forget they were actually 117/9 at Trent Bridge as well however the solid opening stand in the 2nd innings and Haddin's innings would have suggested things would have gotten better. No such respite alas. I would hate to see the series done and dusted by the end of the third test.

  • 5wombats on July 19, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    @Shan156. Cheers mate! I said on other boards that the gap between these two sides is vast. Only umpiring irregularities at Trent Bridge and a statistical "once every 100 years event" caused that gap to appear narrowed. Every Australians worst nightmare came true again today. It reminded me of Boxing Day 2010. It was gut churning. I know it was awful to watch for Australians - some of whom are my best friends that I will be rejoining in Aus next week for the remainder of the series. But I have long since hardened my heart. I've sat at the SCG, the MCG and the Gabba amongst the braying hoards and I know what it is like to be thrashed in The Ashes. And so I know to not feel pity. They never once felt pity for us. Ask no quarter, give no quarter. This is The Ashes.

  • TheCricketEmpireStrikesBack on July 19, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    @YorkiePud You seem to be under attack from fellow England supporters. An alternative, playful, even radical, view? You have been warned about this before.

  • whoster on July 19, 2013, 22:29 GMT

    The Aussies certainly did embarrass themselves today. With the possible exception of Zimbabwe, I don't think any other Test playing nation could've performed so badly in such good batting conditions. Even though Siddle took 3 late wickets, it looks a bit too late to save them going 2-0 down. Apart from being bowled out for 128, England dropped two dolly catches, and almost had two run-outs on top of Agar's. Haddin was to blame there, as it was Agar's call, and there was an easy single. Haddin was also to blame for the two catches that went between him and first slip. The Aussies do have a good pace attack, but it's of no use when their batting is so shambolic. With the Lord's pitch being more helpful to Swann than the one at Nottingham, the Aussies would struggle making 150, let alone whatever England go on to set them.

  • on July 19, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    Actually you don't have to be a historian to find a batting display as woeful of this. There have been plenty in recent years but probably the best example was Armistice Day two years ago when they were rolled by South Africa for 47. At one stage that day they were 9-21 and only a spilled catch denied them of taking New Zealand's unenvied 1955 world record lowest score of 26 from them. (Sadly New Zealand earlier this year "bettered" the Aussie effort, also against South Africa, by being rolled for 45.)

  • on July 19, 2013, 22:21 GMT

    Clarke needs to use his spinners agains Bell, no point in feeding him runs, Bell doesnt like spinners and it showed in first Innings, no point bowling quicks and giving away 150 if nothing is happening

  • filizant on July 19, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    I'm an Aussie. I have to say well done England! Congratulations to the England and their supporters. Fantastic bowling performance by the English team. You deserve to win this test and the series. I won't be surprised if you win the next series in Australia as well. Thank you for showing us how to play cricket and how to play as a team. As for Australia, there's not much to say. I think the batting scorecard sums it up pretty well...

  • on July 19, 2013, 22:14 GMT

    This is the worst Oz batting lineup I've seen. Clarke has to go as captain, he is a poor leader, poor batting order decision maker. Too much ego with him as captain. What happened to P Forrest, A Voges and S Marsh? These are much more sturdy batsman.

  • vk6848 on July 19, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    I was waiting to see Khawaja, having not seen him bat before, and it was excruciating to watch him. Someone like Kulasekera from SL, or Zaheer Khan from India or even Agar would have shown more skill and fight! Bring back Katich please

  • Lermy on July 19, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    What has KP averaged in his last thee or four tests?

  • on July 19, 2013, 21:58 GMT

    I'm not sure jubilant crowing is the right attitude. We are 31/3 - a lot less than the 52/2 Oz was on at one stage. Our batting at the top seems as frail as theirs. If we are skittled and they pull themselves together we'll be the laughing stocks. Should have forced the follow on. Even if they had doubled their 1st innings score, we would only have to have reached double figures to win.

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    Lyon did not deserve to be dropped. It was against all common sense and team ethos and has probably destroyed his career after finally locating a spinner worth persevering with. His improvement has been gradual and noticeable. Then suddenly on the Eve of everything he has been building up to for 18 months he is dumped first match in the Ashes opener.

    No one cared because instead of being pummelled in the first Test, Agar, the dashing young twirler batted us to the most memorable, stunning, composed, and quite frankly unbelievable loss in cricketing history. That glorious loss, seemed to have been like a sudden flare on a moonless night and blinded everyone to the fact that he took the attention off the main game, i.e. that we were soundly thrashed.

    So not only have we destroyed our spinner, our team went into the following match with undeserved hubris and suddenly we find ourselves on the brink of 2-0 and contemplating a whitewash.

  • GurSinghgur on July 19, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    It would be good for the sries--and for England--if Australia DID win. Pathetic English top end might buckle down to doing what they're paid for, making runs. 28-3 in the first, 30-3 in the second. Perhaps Pietersen could be kept in the team as a bowler? He could hardly contribute less--and almost certainly more--if he went in number 11.

  • chaddock on July 19, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    England batting needs solidity at the top - especially with the Aussie seamers being their main asset. Cook and Compton averaged 58 as an opening pair. Compton averages over 50 against all these Aussie bowlers. Root should have been out for 12 today. Bairstow was clean bowled yesterday, yet again - both reprieved by luck. Cook, Compton and Trott give insurance against the middle order being exposed too soon. With his great start to international cricket, Root deserves the number 6 slot. Baristow needs time to iron out his technical problems. He will come good. The selectors really messed up, dropping Compton, and then putting Root in a position to lose his confidence, rather than giving him this series bedded in at number 6.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on July 19, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    It's amazing to think that, after all the talk about how quick Pattison was, Anderson has turned out not just the more skillful bowler, as predicted, he's also 8-9 mph quicker than Pattison. It just goes to show the pre-series talk by Australia was a load of rubbish!

  • on July 19, 2013, 21:32 GMT

    Ok. Nice piece. But Lehmann is blaming Rogers for telling Watson to use the referral. That won't stop the haters, though. You're right re his dismissal however. I just couldn't watch, hey were setting him up. Rogers needed to get on strike.

    Re Hughes. Not sure how you can prove you didn't hit it. Hot spot showed no nick. You call that unclear. I think he hit it. But the process is killing cricket...

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 21:28 GMT

    I sincerely hope that Warner and his moustache are not brought back from Africa to be the series saviour, there's only so much embarrassment a loyal supporter should be expected to endure.

  • on July 19, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    Poor Australian batting. I wasn't surprised that England batted again, but a start to mirror the first innings! I reckon the target set will be 550 plus (if they get that far), and the Australians could quite easily be batting in the final session of the third day's play. Victory here and the Ashes are almost certainly retained at the very least.

  • Nampally on July 19, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    It was most disappointing batting by the Aussies to say the least. Clarke, considered to be a World class batsmen by many, needs to lead from front bat #3 instead of #5. He needs to be the sheet anchor of the side at least in batting. At the moment his role seems to be restricted to just captaincy. Aussie batsmen need to play @ the test level. 5 batsmen between them contributing 1,7,2,2,2 for a total of 14 runs shows their lack of competence on a good batting wkt. where Broad, Swann & Anderson between them contributed 73 earlier in the day. The Aussies really need to do some serious soul searching! Again in bowling they gave 73 to the tail enders after brilliant start of 26 for 3. Even in the second innings they have England batting at 31 for 3. They need to continue their wkt. taking instead of losing grip again. If the Aussies can restrict England to <150 runs they can still make a game out of it. Clarke needs to show leadership & his batting skills instead of being Just a "captain"!

  • on July 19, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    No matter how hard Aussies bowlers try... The end result ll stay in the favour of English... I have always beloved in the home nation wining the match but seriously not like this ... Hope to see some kind of fight from Aussies batsmen's...

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 21:00 GMT

    @5wombats, I too thought that you were being too kind to them. The Aussies have humiliated us on several occasions and, during their hey days, they never felt any sympathy for the opposition. Not that they should, this is professional sports and they are all playing to win. Neither should we, now that we are on top. No quarters should be asked and none should be given. Honestly, I never thought that I will live to see us win another Ashes series since 1986-1987 in Aus. When we did that in style last time, it was such a relief that now I am expecting us to not just win against the Aussies but humiliate them like they did to us in their pomp. Unfortunately, our own recent batting woes means that matches are likely to result in close finishes.

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 20:55 GMT

    Some Aussie fan here mentioned that man for man their bowling attack is better than ours. Really? Who in the Aussie side has 300+ wickets like Jimmy does? You want to talk averages? Yes, Jimmy has played more tests but that is the point - Jimmy has also played all around the world and has proved himself in every condition. He may not have the best average in SA and Aus. but remember that while his 2006-2007 tour down under was a disaster, he redeemed himself with a superb return in 2010-2011. Let Siddle prove himself in all conditions and play as many tests as Jimmy has and still come up with the same #s. People said Patto will blow us away. The only thing he is blowing away atm is Aussie fans' high expectations on him. Fitness is very important for a sportsman. No use if you have all the talent but are often injured. Harris seldom plays more than 1 or 2 tests in a series and has played only 12 in total. The less said about their spinners the better.

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    Another thing that baffles me is why would Cook not send a nightwatchman to protect Trott and KP, yet send Anderson yesterday to protect Broad and Swann. Surely, Bresnan or Jimmy would be able to hold the Aussies for 10 overs instead of the 5 that Bresnan eventually faced. Another thing that irks me is when people say that the Aussies gifted Swanny a 5-fer when our top order has been even more generous in gifting wickets to Siddle. Consider the quality of our batsmen and theirs. Except Clarke, there is no batsmen in the Aussie side that would walk into our XI. None of the wickets that Siddle got today were really hard earned. He basically kept it straight and our guys fell for it, especially KP.

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 20:40 GMT

    @rally_Windies, I think your drawing comparisms between this decling aus side & the w.indies side of the mid 2 late 90 holds some weight. Clarke does seem Lara like in the propping up of the batting.I think maybe u can view siddle & Harris as Walsh & ambrose of the time although Walsh played a lot more than Harris does. Perhaps pattinson will end up in the Franklin rose role of coming in 2 the side & doing well 4 a while b4 falling in 2 oblivion.

  • grahaam on July 19, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Bordering on arrogance not enforcing the follow on , tired bowlers or worried about batting last are not adequate justification for this , Bad decision that could still be regretted. Test match cricket was designed with the opportunity to place this indignity upon the opposition.

  • landl47 on July 19, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    A few myths exploded here. Khawaja is not a great player of spin, as had been claimed. He was all at sea against Swann and could easily have been out twice before he finally succumbed for 14. England do not rely on too much on Anderson; he took one tail-end wicket today and Aus still only got 128. Swann does not bowl poorly against Australia, he takes what the wicket gives him. If a wicket has some turn and bounce, Swann takes wickets. And Australia's young bowlers are not a force to be reckoned with. So far the old warhorses, Harris and Siddle, have looked the class of Australia's bowling. Pattinson has been bad in this test and should be replaced for the next one.

    And one truth was confirmed; Watson is neither a good opener nor a team player. His colossal ego didn't save his wicket when plumb LBW and poor Rogers, who unselfishly didn't risk Australia's last review on his farce of a dismissal, was left holding the bag.

  • GrindAR on July 19, 2013, 20:19 GMT

    Just a doubt, Are these breed of players betting too much on the technology even to play the shots?... Don't they use common sense? I think it would be better without this kind of DRS. Atleast umpires are bound to go to 3rd umpire when they have implicit doubts. With DRS in place, they expect players to use DRS instead of them taking initiative to reconsider their own decisions... DRS is playing with the ego of umpires more than it does without DRS. So, in my conclusion, DRS does not do any good and it does bad in many ways, playing with emotions of stake holders who are directly involved (Umpires, Players => Team), and then scores of fans anxiety. So, why dont they scrape this DRS for good. Tests without DRS were actually of high quality.

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    @yorkshirepudding, r u really trying 2 say u think this aus side r capable of making a world record score 2 win this game? Surely anything over 350 will b a plenty big enough lead for Eng?

  • Sunshine_Pom on July 19, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding - Can you honestly see this band average Australian batting line-up, who are woefully short of confidence and virtually all out of form, scoring 450-500 on a day 4 or 5 track? If we add another 125-150, Australia are done in the the test match, and effectively the series.

  • Chad950 on July 19, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    When hotspot reviewed Hughes dismissal I saw a large white mark on the bat.

  • BravoBravo on July 19, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    Seems like AUS is never recovered after they have been booked for 88 (all out) against PAK in 2nd Test at Leeds ENG (July 2010), and the misery continues SA beating AUS in AUS, most white washed team (IND) in the entire cricket history whitewashing AUS and the nightmare goes on for AUS. The decline of AUS team is mind boggling. They need to recall Ponting, McGrath, Hussey, Gilly, and Waughs. I bet they will do better tahn the recent crop of AUS players, and probably could win a game or two. ENG have really work hard and find a way to loose this match.

  • SnowSnake on July 19, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    I think Australia will lose this test. I am not sure if any team that has conceded over 200 runs lead to opposition in the first innings by 2nd day went on to win the test. The odds of winning are stacked up against Australia.

  • Chinmayan on July 19, 2013, 19:21 GMT

    The blind Australian selectors has messed up several good cricketers eho could have played this Ashes. They unfairly sacked Katich to make Ckark happy, Forced Hussey to retire little pre maturely, etc. They promote certain players like Warner n Wade beyond rational levels. Thry told a story to drop Haddin n later anither story to bring him back. Rogers who is as old as Katich was brought in to the team one year after froping Katich. I should admit that Rogers n Haddin are two good selections for this tour. CA should bring Katich back until the young batsman learn to bat. Clark irrespective of the greatness of batsmsn is a poor leader, his captaincy should be stripped. Watto should be banned from all internatuonal cricjet and would only allowef to play IPL. George Bailey would have done much better than these bstsman

  • ArmadilloFox on July 19, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    Ask yourself one question - would Simon Katich, averaging 50 in the last 3 years of his career performed as badly as opener as Watson, Cowan, Rogers etc?

    If the answer is no it proves one thing - Clarke as Captain has no man management skills and is simply not upto the job of international captaincy because it requires a degree of intellect he simply doesn't possess.

  • tjsimonsen on July 19, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    @ Tumi_tlhomz: Can't agree with that. While Siddle and Harris have looked good, none of the other Oz bowlers have looked the part. And even Siddle and Harris are not in Anderson's class.

  • DeckChairand6pack on July 19, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    In answer to the question asked in the 1st sentence: Nov 2011. Australia were bowled out by the Green Machine for 47 making this total look monumental. A revolving door had to fitted on the visitor's changing room at Newlands. James Pattinson's run up reminds me of Dale Steyn in full flight. Sadly that's where the comparison ends. Just as in the 1st test, it has been entertaining, but is crying out for some quality. Ian Bell excepted, words I never thought I would write! The stage is set for tomorrow for someone to bat Australia out of the game, or for someone to bowl Oz back into it.

  • on July 19, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    First things first, great knock by Broad and Swann and well played England getting Australia out for 128. then the slightly annoying 3 wickets down before the close. Right to follow on. Credit to Siddle for bowling really well and the other seamers, but KPs wicket was really disappointing. However, we have the ONLY in form batsmen Bell ready to come out and Australia don't have a Swanny when the ball stops swinging around the 25 over mark, so I am backing England to get around 250, which leaves Australia needing 480...mmm.....anyone backing Australia at 7-1...not me...

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    @H_Z_O, I totally agree re Compton, I was against him being dropped at the time & I have seen nothing in either test yet to suggest it was the right decision. Root doesn't look at all comfortable at the top & despite his 60 odd Bairstow still doesn't convince me, he was given that massive life on 21 yesterday & his dismissal was probably worse than any of the Aus today.

  • GrindAR on July 19, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    Surrendering to Swan.... not a good sign at all... man he is not a potent spinner in actual terms. He could have paid lot more for his wickets... When I said about smith, he is hard to judge, not even himself can judge how his ball is going to be, he is as much tricky... Swan is certainly not a tricky bowler to negotitate.... you guys needed patience... so what if the run rate dips below 2rpo...Brits managed to win the first at that run rate... So, this kind of puts this pool of Aussies back to the saying, that they are not good player of spinners... You have 5 players in the playing XI who are actually good players of spinners... including swany... very disappointed with your patience levels required for test cricket. Aussie... up your batting mente... it need just you as individuals review yourself on how you can do better with your nerves... To be honest, this is a shocker... it is plain non-willingness to show test character...

  • Rom1966 on July 19, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    16wickets in a day, will the ICC make any comments about the pitch. Well played England , Australia lose this and. 5-0 it shall be. I so want to see Watson and Clarke batting together, a run out will happen.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 18:47 GMT

    Michael Clarke: "Nothing will get in the way of team harmony at the moment. The feeling around the camp is magnificent." How nice.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 18:43 GMT

    England have to count themselves lucky with the Rodgers and Hughes wickets, and it could still change but england need to put on another 170-200 to really take this game away from Aus, and even then its not certain as the pitch should be capable of a big partnership if the batsmen put thier heads down and graft.

  • Iddo555 on July 19, 2013, 18:41 GMT

    England must be trying to give Australia a sniff because they came out and batted poorly. 30/3 when the game should have been dead and buried. It probably still is but England are doing their best to keep Australia in this.

    Terrible by Australia followed by terrible from England

  • Rally_Windies on July 19, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    Well, Well, Well ...

    Siddle is reminding me of Ambrose ....

    This Australian side looks more and more like the WI team in decline with Lara and Ambrose ...

    Clarke, would be the "Lara" ...

    Wins are build on Clarke 100's and double 100's (Just like Lara)

    And when the batting fails , Siddle (Ambrose) just willingly skittles the opposition out in their second innings ...

    The resemblance of these two post dominant era teams is striking ...

  • Jeppo on July 19, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    To answer the question from the many comments posted here on why England didn't enforce the follow-on, well there are many reasons.

    Firstly there are still three days left in this test match, which is plenty of time. Teams that follow-on tend to do better in the second innings than they do in the first so it would only make sense to follow-on if there is a shortage of time. Today is one of the hottest days of the year so far so it would make sense to rest the bowlers a bit. Getting Australia to bat in the fourth innings will suit England's bowlers more, as the pitch will deteriorate and become more abrasive, bringing England's best weapons - spin and reverse swing - to the fore.

    England have a good chance of adding another 200-300 runs to the board and set Australia a target of 500+ to win with two days to go. If England get to that stage, I can see only one winner.

  • whatawicket on July 19, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    so timid batting 2nd time around, i cannot understand.the game was set up so well to have the Aussies chasing leather 2 edges into the stump. with KP with a nothing shot.our big 3 just have not fired to their potential, which is good for the Aussies, must do better, perhaps joe root maybe getting a little bit of form

  • RD36 on July 19, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    Watto has to go....he is immensely talented, but just not doing it for Australia. The review was both dumb and selfish at the same time. Australia have to bring the mongrel out to make a fist of it, and they have that guy in Faulkner, who brings much more to the table than Watson does in his current form. Wouldn't be a bad idea to have him in the playing XI and give Watto some time to reflect on how he needs to contribute to justify his undeniable talent....sad to see it go waste like this.

  • Tumi_tlhomz on July 19, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    @frontfootlounge i dont remember your bowling attack being very effective when the mighty south african batting line-up rmade 637-2 whilst south africa easily deposed of your batsman. Man for man our bowling line-up is superior to yours except in the spin department. That being said woeful batting performance by australia,hard to see them getting back into this game but you never know.

  • Nutcutlet on July 19, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    There seems to be a huge gulf between the quality of the batting & the bowling in this Test. Nearly all the bowlers can hold their heads up; collectively, they have managed to bowl at an acceptable-to-good Test standard - note: not outstanding. (See below). The batting, with the honourable exception of Bell (and to some extent, Trott, in 1st inns) has been woeful: brainless in some cases, risible in others. Cook has looked off colour/out of form. No one can be sure about KP's form as his appearances here have been like the cuckoo in the clock - pop out, pop in again. Root, thus far, has not advanced his cause. The less said about the Oz batting the better. So, when the batting's flawed, lacking in concentration, lacking in nous, the quality of the bowling becomes exaggerated. Will Swann be gifted a 5-fer more generously again? Steve Smith is made to look as if he's touched with Warne-like magic. Siddle bowls straight & gets 3fer ziltch. The art of Test batting, eh? Why? Anyone for T20?

  • 2.14istherunrate on July 19, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    England had a great 5 hours followed by an utterly incomprehensibe and macarbre last hour. Quite simply they had done almost everything right till 5 pm. After 5 they did nothing right. It was pathetic. Theoretically Aus can still win. It should have been utterly out of reach by now. No attempt to score runs often gives wickets away. Here it did so handsomely. They might just as well have enforced the follow on.

  • on July 19, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    Watson isn't an opener. should bat 5, Hughes isn't a test player, bye bye. khawaja can have 3 matches. the punchy boozer to open. khawaja 3, Clarke 4, Watson 5, smith 6. drop agar, smith to bowl spin. England know Australia are poor. Petersen looks bored already.

  • Alexk400 on July 19, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    Kawaja's last chance ever. If he gets out below 50 second inning , his career ends. :) . He is better than hughes but he always gets chance when the pressure is too much. last time also he played second test or something and got dumped after that. Aussie has to make hughes play with agar and move haddin 4th. Haddin and agar another run out waiting. Running between wickets in first test between hadding and agar was awful as well. Both are aggressive batsman who wanted to strike. Hadding needs to let young guy gets strike more. Agar wants to show off ..so let him do his stuff. Agar batting better than his bowling. He can replace hughes as batsman. Also clarke failed to use smith as bowler in first test , it was a blunder. Smith is better bowler...but he should bat with tail. Move haddin before smith aussie will win. Aussie batting order second inning... Kawaja , Rogers , Watson , Clarke , Hadding , Hughes , Smith , Agar , Siddle ,Pattinson, Harris. _ follow my suggestion aussies.

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    Whatever happened to our batsmen? ok, they all had a poor record at TB, so that was excusable but all our batsmen have good record at Lord's. I won't attribute all the dismissals to good Aussie bowling. The KP shot was irresponsible. Cook and Trott look jaded and Root is unconvincing as a test opener. The rut started in India although Cook was in supreme form then and KP played one of the greatest innings in Mumbai. I don't remember us making a huge score since the NZ tour. In India it was Cook, in NZ, it was Prior and in the return series at home against NZ, it was Root. It has been a while since our batsmen performed as a unit. Hopefully, our batsmen will recover in the next test. Truth is, the horrendous Aussie batting is making our under par scores look good.

    This test is not over by any stretch of imagination - we are ahead but if the Aussies bowl us out cheaply tomorrow, they will have the momentum and then anything can happen. We need to score at least 200 in our 2nd innings.

  • whatawicket on July 19, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    play out the 80 over of the ball then declare or out. that should get them a lead of about 375/400. sorry i do not think much of this wicket it looks as dry as trent bridge with just a bit more life in it, but sometimes at lords the wicket dies and its abetter wicket to bat on. but then i have never seen a wicket as dry for a test in 40 odd years at lords . bet lords were happy for England to bat again or they might have missed out on a bumper Sunday. nice to see that JA sitting back as he looked tired an let the other bowlers do the biz.

  • on July 19, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    16 Wicket in 2nd Day of Test Match!!! I wonder what kind of pitch eng made for test match!! Leave that behind and looking at the Australia batting (sorry Battling) one thing is clear i.e Aus will never win single test match and only miracle will save them!! I thought Clarke will be the key and the way he playing is totally falling cricket!! Their Batting is totally weak and not even single batsmen looking to cross 30 run mark!! Lehman and clarke has to work hard and make them better!! Best of Luck for Aus cricket!!! I personally feel sad for today!!!

  • H_Z_O on July 19, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    @Shan156 "While their batting is poor, ours hasn't been exactly great either. Our top order has, for the most part, batted poorly this series"

    Agreed. We've been largely dependent on Bell's phenomenal form and that Siddle overstep sparing Bairstow's blushes. Root's looked unconvincing at the top; for all the talk about England wanting Root to open because Compton scored too slowly, Root's strike-rate as an opener stands at 34.91. Compton's is 34.68. Even if you're just looking at the New Zealand horror-show at home his strike rate was 27.08.

    That's a difference in run rate of 0.42 runs an over.

    Not dismissing Root, he's clearly a talent, but this nonsense about Compton being left out because he's a "plodder" is looking ridiculous now. Compton has to wonder how he can average 55 against these Australian bowlers, at a decent lick, and still not justify selection. Warm-up or not, the decision to leave him out is looking more and more like a bad one.

  • chitti_cricket on July 19, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    Australia, remember what SA did to you in MCG on boxing day test in their 4th innings. They did counter attack you and won the match from no where.And remeber what India did to you in Kolkata, wining from no where. All you need to do is counter attack.Your bowlers did that today in the form of ever lasting Siddle.You emulate him and Lakshman and JP Dumminy. You folks have potential to do that.You guys are playing Seanny (A classy spinner ofcourse) but not a Warne proportionate mates..! Why the hell you folks are just playing him within crease. Use your feet, counter attack him. Watson should not get out like that. He is an impact player and should give impetous to their top order. Your #3 is very vulnerable, play Haddin or even Agar in that position.Don't let England and Swanny the initiative, they will eat you away. I still think you folks have potential.You are not playing to your potentail that is all.All you need is one anchor (Rogers or Clarke himself) then around them attack.

  • Greatest_Game on July 19, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    @ DJstriplefive. Were you serious when you wrote "Why isn't eng pushing for a follow on.....A victory by an innings would be appropriate for test no 1s and fitting lesson to aussie batsmen…"

    Have you not followed test cricket for the past year? England lost the no. 1 position last summer! I'm not sure what would be the reason for any batsmen playing in this game to receive a "fitting lesson," or even what a "fitting" lesson is, but you should note that at this stage it is 3 of England's 4 top batsmen who have have received a 2nd innings lesson! Pietersen and Cook together have amassed a total of 27 runs this test.

    Be careful what you wish for! Hubris is always dangerous. (BTW - I'm not an Aussie or a Pom - this is a 'neutral' opinion.)

  • cheguramana on July 19, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Sad to see the state of Aus batting. I had some hopes after the first test that they wl make a real fight of it, but their batting is just too hopeless! Well done England ! Barring bad weather, they really cud win this 5-0!!

  • EnglishCricket on July 19, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    Australia batting is simply poor and embarrassing. Most of their batsman have become clueless against spinners in the last 6 months with the most recent tours to India and currently England. England are clearly not playing at their best in this test series thus far but yet they are just outmatching their rivals in every category. If you have been keeping an eye on this series then you would've realised by now that the body language of the 2 teams is different from one another. England look more interested in this series and means a hell of a lot to them whereas the Aussies don't really seem to care as much and England as long as they play much better in the course of this match and series will simply dominate with happy faces.

  • topeleven on July 19, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Its poor batting..........If australia should fight they should move watson down the order.....Change it to like Hughes Rogers Khwaja clarke smith watson agar and the rest ......

  • Englishmanabroad on July 19, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Keep seeing/hearing comments like "flat wicket", "nothing in it for the bowlers", "450 run wicket", etc., etc. So how come 16 wickets fell today for less than 240 runs?? It can't all be "...just another bad shot."

  • Stateside_Steve on July 19, 2013, 17:45 GMT

    If I am an Aussie bowler, I would be livid. They are on track to take 40 wickets at below par scores against the supposedly mighty English batting. They also score runs at a pretty good clip. What else can they do at this point.

  • on July 19, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Australia have hit a tragically low point of patheticness today, so much so it even requires a new word. What can they be thinking out there? Reviewing a ball hitting the middle of middle, not reviewing a ball barely hitting a fifth stump.. when Rogers asked Ussie what he thought he simply shrugged his shoulders?! Was he even watching? Then when Clarke comes in Khawaja plays one into the off side, screams out wait and starts off on a mad dash for the other end, seriously? Ussie and Hughes play woeful shots. Haddin lets Agar run himself out attempting to take what should have been a casual single... You could go on...

    Watson should be banned from taking reviews, i don't care if he gets beamed in the badge and caught down at fine leg only to be given out stumped, he should not be allowed to review anything, ever, again!

    Haddin, how many catches are you going to let go through to first slip in this series?! There has been at least 3 so far. Appalling!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on July 19, 2013, 17:40 GMT

    England's awesome reputation for bowling on flat pitches is well known, but on the hottest, most stifling day of the year, when a 'Code Red' heatwave is afflicting the entire South of England- England bowl Australia out for just over 100. Green pitches, wet pitches, dry pitches or dead pitches, they are proven predators. So great bowling England, but who's really surprised?

  • Greatest_Game on July 19, 2013, 17:40 GMT

    I love the first line of this report: "It will require the services of a cricket historian to determine when Australia last batted as woefully as this." I must be a historian - November 10, 2011: 47 all out.

    What is interesting is that I was thinking about that game before I read this report. Aus scored 284, with a fine 151 by Clarke, and then bundled SA out for 96, giving them a 1st inns lead of 188.

    However, SA came right back and dismissed Aus for 47, the #11, Nathan Lyon, top scorer. (Like Agar in the last test!) SA then easily knocked off the required 236, with centuries by Amla and Smith.

    If Aus do something similar here - shoot England out for a low score - at 31 for 3 it seems possible, especially after Cook, Trott & KP were rolled - they could take this. No one thought SA had a chance in that record breaking test, but they won! The pitch was not demonic - 3 tons were scored on it. It was simply a case of 2 batting collapses. Could we see that here? History again?

  • on July 19, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    why England didn't enforce the follow on is silly aus could easily be 30 for 3.....

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    Great bowling from Siddle which has just given Aus the smallest of sniffs, however you have to feel that the damage was done early in the day with that atrocious batting display. There will surely be a partnership in this Inns at some point & I would be very surprised if Aus find themselves chasing anything under 400 which will surely be beyond them.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    What a day! 16 wickets and that's with three fairly easy catches missed too. Rogers is the only one amongst them who can feel a bit hard done by. There was some good bowling in there but it there was a great deal of substandard batting. From England's point of view, I can understand why they didn't want to enforce the follow-on but they then didn't know how they wanted to bat for this period tonight. Cook and Trott looked rather tentative while Pietersen looked irresponsible. Root will be feeling the heat and, although I'm confident that he will make it as an opener at this level, he looked somewhat unsure as well. They need to come out tomorrow with a clear purpose and put a few partnerships together. With so much time left there's no need to take undue risk. Are you listening Matt Prior? If England can make 200 then they should be quite safe and they should be able to go well beyond that from here.

  • deathstar01 on July 19, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    Bad batting. indeed. not that English have bowled fiercely. irresponsible shots.

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    @Harmony111, got it. Yes, I did misunderstand you. When I meant DRS, I did not refer to any particular tool that was used but the referral to a third umpire who has several tools at his disposal.

    Although the Aussies, sans Gilchrist, have seldom walked, I expected Broad to walk there. The fact that he did not was a big letdown for me.

    Re: 0-5, 0-5 defeat for the Aussies, I am not entirely sure about that. While their batting is poor, ours hasn't been exactly great either. Our top order has, for the most part, batted poorly this series. Add to this the fact that Prior is also out of form and I don't see how we can win all the tests. Bowling wise, both the teams are almost equal. Look at Siddle's 2nd innings performance here that vindicates my statement on the state of our top order and the Aussie pace attack. Although I would love a whitewash, at least in England, I don't see it happening.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    England are clearly intent on having a quick dash and getting the oppo back in for a few overs before the close of play.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    ENG 2/23 and Siddle has picked up two. So happy to see him bounce back in the 2nd innings. OZ need to somehow bowl ENG out for less than 250. We'll still lose, but at least the bowlers can hold their heads high. Wonder how the ACB can 'spin' this one so that they blame the bowlers? Just hope we show some fight from here on. Fingers crossed & all that. Wonder if we'll hear the all too predictable 'talk' from the OZ camp after this one - I'd much prefer some refreshing honesty for a change.

  • on July 19, 2013, 17:03 GMT

    @DylanBrah: It's finally refreshing to see an Australian who gets it. Yes, it's indeed true. Australia have none in the batting department. I am hearing chirps about Voges, Shaun Marsh, Marcus North, Dave Hussey, and even Daniel Christian. Seriously ? I mean, a few of those guys can't even remain consistent in ODI or T20 cricket, formats in which they are supposed to excel. But on the other hand, yeah Australia do have some quality fast bowlers. Perhaps, it is also now safe to concur that their fast bowlers also happen to be their best batsmen.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    Congrats to Swann on an excellent bowling performance, and to the rest of the ENG squad. @ Balaji Kumar - yep, but that's why I said a 2-3 year plan with an emphasis on rebuilding the almost non-existent national batting stocks. As for T20 & ODI's, they help fill the coffers of the ACB, but they are a huge contributing factor to the current batting woes. Oz batting is pitiful, and it is the role of the ACB to address the problem in a meaningful manner - which may mean more heartache in the next 1-2 years while we go through yet another rebuilding phase. They must concentrate their efforts on bringing through young players with good, solid techniques first & foremost. I don't know what else they can do, and it just serves to illustrate how crucial Hussey was to the balance of the team. Since Hussey's departure, OZ have struggled to make meaningful scores and the top order has been fully exposed as farcical and ineffective.

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    cookie gone.plz bring smith asap eng will all out under 100

  • bddhika_harindat on July 19, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    Cricket Australia should be solely responsible for the current disastrous situation in the team due to their wrong decision by retiring a bunch of talented cricketers before their intended retirements. They should've retained players like Micheal Hussey, David and Katich in this team. We all know that Mr Ponting's career was fading, so leaving him was fine but Micheal Hussey should have definitely played in ENG. It's really sad to see the demolition that those ridiculous administrators had done.

    Also, they were too rigid with their disciplinary action, David Warner should've been allowed to play in this team instead of being sent to Zimbabwe. Good luck AC Administrators.

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    @thelapal: It's interesting you say that. The players you named: Wade, Maxwell, Bailey etc. are not fit to play test cricket. This is the ultimate format of the game and do you really feel those guys have what it takes to succeed ? Sorry bro, I don't think so. Wade and Maxwell both failed in India miserably. I still can't believe the Mumbai Indians would pay a million green-backs for Maxwell, a slogger at best. Wade might be a good wicket-keeper but he's not half a batsman as Haddin. Bailey, well the less we say about him the better. There are simply no replacements available for Australia at the moment. Perhaps they could look at their Sheffield Shield winning state team and pick players from there ? I am not so sure. What an irony ! Lehmann coached the winning state team.

  • Waisii on July 19, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    One word for aussies "5-0"

  • Lmaotsetung on July 19, 2013, 16:34 GMT

    Aus better give Sam Robson an offer he cannot refuse and time is running out. With the performance of Alex Lees this week, the queue to open the batting for Eng is getting a bit long.

  • shawndavisalexander on July 19, 2013, 16:34 GMT

    Throw in Brad Hodge, Simon Katich and Phil Jaques. And maybe even Marcus North?

  • DylanBrah on July 19, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    We (Australia) have some potential champion fast bowlers (Pattinson, Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Bird... the list goes on), but the cupboard is truly bare in the batting department. You only have to look at the recent shield season to see that only 8 recognised batsmen/allrounders averaged over 40 (minimum 3 matches). This includes players like Wade, Haddin, Ponting, Henriques, Hughes, Rogers - all players who certainly aren't excelling at international level. Khawaja and Smith both averaged under 40 for the season, 1 century between them. You can have a dig at Inverarity and co. all you want, but the reality is, they don't have much to choose from. We are staring down the barrel of a truly embarrassing few months (or years, shall I say), unless for some fluke batting performances. Something needs to change at the grassroots, because generation 1982-onwards has been a complete failure in the batting department.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    I'm sure Clarke is feeling confident, but at some point might England actually start to bat and bowl to their potential and take their catches.

  • 5wombats on July 19, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    128 all out.... @RandyOZ so glad to see that you are enjoying the series. All those larrikin comments of yours over the past 2 years are coming home to roast now, eh? As for Swann - do you still not understand? Perhaps yet another match winning performance from him today will have persuaded you. But then again... perhaps not. And where is @jonesy2? Hiding behind the sofa like he was during the 2010/11 Ashes no doubt. Come on out @jonesy2 - why don't you let us know your thoughts. There was a while there this avro when Siddle was out when I started to feel sorry for Aussie. But then I thought, jeez - this is Australia, if the tables were turned no Aussie would feel sorry for us. And lets face it Australia have had England in this position plenty of times in the past 20 years and when they did they twisted the knife. So that feeling of pity I had lasted about 1 nanosecond and then I got a grip. Go England! Grind them into the dust! Show no mercy.

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    good decision by cook not to enforce the follow on... let australia chase a target of 600+... let them stare down the long barrel of defeat and let them beg to lose earlier...

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    Interesting the psychology about teams not enforcing the follow-on as frequently as they used to. I suppose if you have just bowled a team out in 54 overs you probably fancy giving your bowlers a bit of a rest, or is this my negative thinking...

  • DJstriplefive on July 19, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    Why isn't eng pushing for a follow on.....A victory by an innings would be appropriate for test no 1s and fitting lesson to aussie batsmen...

  • Cyril_Knight on July 19, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    Can everyone finally settle down and just admit that England are far better than Australia? Only freak circumstances made the first test close. England will romp away with this match and the gaps will only get bigger in the next three.

    Many on here said I was being "ridiculous" when I said England would bowl Australia out for under 100 and/or win by an innings this summer. I wonder if they are still so confident?

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    That's twice edges have gone past Haddin without him even attempting a catch. I remember Bob Taylor diving miles in front of the slips, never saw him drop one.

  • whatawicket on July 19, 2013, 16:20 GMT

    notimeforcricket. the players you mentioned if i am right are now classed as British or European that's why they are allowed to play in CC. would they give that up to play for their country perhaps. but if they did they could no longer play in CC other than an overseas player. Kat was treated badly an the skipper was blamed at least in the press. PJs is i think playing on his British passport

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:19 GMT

    I don't think your historian will need go back too far. November 2011 in Cape Town will find a 47 all out by the Aussies. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/514029.html

  • thelapal on July 19, 2013, 16:19 GMT

    This was expected from Australia batting nothing kind of surprise package here. First test was saved by tail end batsmen and everyone including their captain thought team has fought very well. How can a team like australia keep depending on tail end batsmen for scoring runs. Watson,Rogers,khawaja,agar,haddin should be axed and give chance to starc,kevin wade,glenn maxwell or leon and george bailey in next test to give some decent fight to drag the test atleast till last day.Hard for australia to avoid white wash in this ashes.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 16:16 GMT

    No wonder Clarke has a bad back - he's been carrying the Aussie batting since 2011 #boom

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    I think its time for some changes in that batting line up i would surely like to see a place for shaun marsh and adam voges in that current squad . i dont think why these two guys cant find a place in the team . i think its time to give a long run to these two players. i dont think y the current australian selection commitee is trying to take some harsh decisions having 10 matches under their belt.

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    its poor batting display.harsh shot selection.players like khwaja,hughes,rogers are not capable to score big run and watson again showed that he is not a test player.once day will come when australia on icc 8th ranking on both formats.i surely predicted upcoming results that lost this series 0-5,in home 0-5 and in south africa 0-3 because upcoming youngers are not a kind of talent which same as previous australia teams.australia cricket future is in very danger.

  • Chinmayan on July 19, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    John inveraty, the chief selector (pls excuse me if the name is not spelt properly, its not worth to know about him either), Captain Clark n Watson are 3 important people Australia has to get rid of if they have to build a team for future.CA, for your kind attention!

  • on July 19, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    @thebrotherswaugh: But the problem is DO Australia have the next generation of Pontings, Haydens, Martyns, Bevans, Taylors, Langers, Husseys etc ? I don't think so. They may have some players along the lines of Watson, Steve Smith, Hughes and Cowan. But, it's no where as good as the previous generation of Australian stalwarts. Australia can blame T20, or poor managing of Shield championship, but the fact of the matter is the youngsters in Australia seem to have lost it for test cricket. Warner is just a classic case of over hype and media attention. The one thing Australian fans can take heart from is the fact that your bowling is still world class even without an attacking spinner. Hopefully, the batsmen can turn things around.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    Mickey Arthur must be laughing himself silly at the moment, as he can say the poor performances were nothing to do with him.

    I wonder how many ex-players will now be saying its time to knock Swann out of the attack and focus on the likes of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan/Finn/onions.

  • 64blip on July 19, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    The tail didn't wag this time. So, having listened to six months of "Australia have a pace battery, you Poms had better watch out, just look at their superior bowling averages" we have an answer of sorts. The Australian batting is so poor that the bowlers are irrelevant.

  • bobmartin on July 19, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    The Aussies really are in a mess at the moment..Fancy wasting their DRS reviews AGAIN..Diidn't they learn from the Trent Bridge test...? Obviously not... Now why hasn't Cook made them follow on... for goodness sakes..Is he really that scared that Oz will leave them an ungettable target ? That doesn't show an awful lot of faith in the team....

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:57 GMT

    Australia's best chance of sneaking in a win in the series has gone with the 1st test. Their batting has been shambolic especially since the retirement of Mike Hussey and they would do well just to avoid an innings defeat in the rest of the matches. England should trash this pathetic (mostly batting) Aussie team 5-0 and it will be a massacre if Cook, Trott and Pieterson come to the party.

  • Fine_Legs on July 19, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    It is very important that Australia, when they follow on, reach deep within themselves to believe they can win - only then can they put up a fighting total to test England in the fourth innings. There is no way they can avoid a repeat of their first innings disaster if they try merely to eke out time at the crease. They must score at every opportunity and not be paralyzed in their attempt to appear overly "responsible". There are ways of keeping the scoreboard ticking without going hell for leather, the way Shane Watson does sometimes.

  • brittop on July 19, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    @Aussies: "England completely dependant on James Anderson". Hmmmm!

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    Michelle for Swanny. Absolutely zero chance England will enforce follow on. Negative probability.

  • Dr.murdoch on July 19, 2013, 15:50 GMT

    I think everyone is thinking the same, usman khawaja seems very tentative and low on confidence, it's written all over his face. His way of playing spin is deplorable but he seemed quite established and comfortable against the early swing bowling he faced. No one should be quick to judge the lad, he just needs time to settle into a rhythm. Hopefully Australia do relatively better in the second innings

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    I know the test isn't over yet, and there's a mathematical chance of still winning the series, even at 2-0 down, but I'd have a better chance winning the major prize in Lotto 3 weeks in a row. At 2-0 down, this series is dead, it's just a matter of by how much? Barring an 'act of God', we will lose this test. I just hope the OZ selectors, administrators, board, etc., stick by the current side and allow them to finish what they've begun. If we are whitewashed, so be it. If changes must be made, them make them in the last test. Then wholesale changes before the next Ashes at home later this Summer. We have far too many under-performing and over-hyped players, and they need a dose of old fashioned 'tough love'. Tear up a few contract (most of the alleged 'batsmen'), and usher in a new generation with an emphasis on discipline, dedication, and decent techniques - and forget about our results in T20 or ODI formats. Look at a 2-3 year plan, and rebuild national batting stocks.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    No wonder Russell Crowe is wearing blackout shades.

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    I would also like to point to the fact that Mickey Arthur is NOT responsible for what has happened to Australian cricket. It started even earlier than that. Australia don't have the quality of players they had when they were mighty. Hussey and Ponting's presence in the side 2 years ago simply delayed the inevitable. It's simple; Australia simply don't have any more quality players, particularly in the batting department. They will continue to struggle scoring runs. The tour to India was no one off as some Aussies like to claim. It was a forecast of the dreadful future for Aussie cricket. Can't see Australia come back into the game here at Lord's. If England go 2-0 up, they might as well win the next 3. Also, the DRS was used poorly once again by Australia beginning with Watson. So the Aussies have only themselves to blame. So much for Lehmann turning the tables.

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    after years of agony seeing australia do this to England its feels so good with the boot on the other foot !! long may it continue !! dismal from the aussies :)

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    People with weekend tickets are extremely nervous now I bet...

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    Shaun Marsh in the tean could have made a huge difference

  • Harmony111 on July 19, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    @Shan156: I think you misunderstood me. I am not saying anything for/against DRS regarding Hughes' review. All that I said was the fancy paraphernalia that DRS has could not help 3rd umpire there. He had to go back to the oldie Stump Mic esq to take a final decision. Proving that DRS has flaws isn't the point here. DRS ver 9.0 in 2030 AD will have flaws and failures too; but hardly anyone is ready to accept that as of now, there are other ways also of doing what DRS does albeit at a much much much much lower cost. The only thing needed is common sense. But all we hear is DRS-DRS.

    Nor do I have any sympathy for Aus. Broad's case was kind of payback for Clarke's & Rogers' Box Before Wicket was payback for Sachin's Shoulder Before Wicket. I really see Aus doing a 0-4 + 0-5 + 0-5 now.

    Reg Ind fans, recall the energy some Eng fans spent in deriding umpiring in the Ind-Eng tour, esp in ODIs. The focus then was on "Ind" Umpires though I think not one was as shocking as Broad's or Rogers'.

  • Greatest_Game on July 19, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    @ coldcoffee123. I'm not sure how you can so confidently know that "With somebody like Hayden, Slater, Sehwag, the score would be 100+ by now." Rogers does not yet have enough test figs, but we can compare the 1st class averages of Hayden, 52.7, Slater, 40.85, Sewag, 48.43, and Rogers, 50.3. All pretty close. (The test averages are little different.) On average, none of the would have been 100+. There is simply no evidence to justify your 100+ assertion.

    Considering that, as I write, Aus have folded like a pack of cards to 104 for 9, a solid, grafting score by Watson and Rogers is EXACTLY what Aus needed. Watson did not need to score at a high run rate - he had all day. All day to work alongside Rogers and prevent the hammering staring Aus in the face!

    Watson gave Aus no platform, wasted a review which Rogers should have used, and exposed the inexperienced middle order with the shine on the ball and the bowlers fresh. Don't use Rogers as an excuse for Watson's failure!

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Sorry looking scorecard for the Aussies. One thing is pretty clear. All England have to do is score 250 every time they bat and that should suffice. Can't see this Aussie team scoring more than 200 regularly. From there on, Anderson, Swann and co. just need to do the formalities and win the games. 5-0 looking more and more realistic now.

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Between Swann Broad & Anderson, they managed 72 runs this morning in around 50 mins. As I speak in the 2 and a half hours since lunch Aus have managed one run less than that and lost 8 wickets!

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    laughting at one comment, lbw law states if a ball hit in line wirh stumps is out?? dont know where you got this from? but over the wicket right arm bowler ball on leg stump will never hit the stumps, unless murali was bowling, even then it isnt certain he could get it to straighten enough to clip leg stump just same as people saying it ok to give lbw to balls outside of when the batsman doesnt offer a shot, Umpire has to judge which path the ball will follow thats all nothing more nothing less otherwise there would be lor more lbw, ones hitting inline of leg stump which never are given, till now that is

  • glen1 on July 19, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    Australia threw everything they had in the first test; similar to India in Australia. From now on it is about avoiding a 0-4 whitewash. There is no stable batting to bail Australia out, and all this Ashes hoopla was only in the first test.

  • Gareth_Bain on July 19, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Australia A: 382 in two innings v. Zimbabwe. Their batting cupboard is looking rather bare isn't it? A pity because, including back-up, they have potentially the best fast bowling attack in the world. (I'm South African - we all know about Steyn and Philander but beyond that it's less destructive)

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:22 GMT

    I'd make Australia bat again and then proper disgrace them, then maybe someone will see this batting lineup for what it is rubbish!

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:21 GMT

    NZ would love to be touring Aus right now...

  • SirViv1973 on July 19, 2013, 15:16 GMT

    What an afternoon, I thought Aus would bat well here, how wrong could I have been!

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:15 GMT

    No point in criticizing Arthur. No point in criticizing Lehmann. No point in criticizing anyone.

    What we are seeing is, two teams with severe mismatch in skill sets.

    The incomparable cricket writer, Ted Corbett, once described Ashes series (Some time around the turn of 2000's) as a match between the big brother and his younger one in their backyard. Whatever the younger brother tries, the big fella will find a way to win.

    Exactly, what is happening now, just that the roles have been reversed.

  • a328232 on July 19, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    Cricket Australia can try few other strategic changes. However about monetory benefits proportional to the number of minutes a batsman is able to survive. And how about paid vacation to the bowler who is able to get Stuard Broad out.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 15:09 GMT

    It's certainly too soon to write off Khawaja after just this one innings but the signs were not good. He just didn't look the part and was certainly no improvement on Cowan. It's just one innings and he certainly could do better in the near future but he certainly needs to, for his sake and Australia's. I think a run of at least a few matches in a row is warranted to better assess whether he can cut it or not but Australia might be getting a bit desperate before then. Despite his failures in Zimbabwe, I'm sure David Warner will be on some people's minds. It will be interesting to see whether he plays the tour game before the third Test and, if so, who they leave out because there's really noone who wouldn't benefit from more time at the crease.

  • voma on July 19, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    Englands first innings score is looking pretty impressive now , its pressure that is exposing Australias batsmen and a bit of bad luck . But come on , what on earth is watson even doing in the side .

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 15:02 GMT

    @Harmony111, as far as the Hughes dismissal is concerned, the rules are clear. If there is not conclusive evidence to overturn the on-field umpire's decision, then the decision stays. I think it is fair enough that the decision was not overturned.

  • on July 19, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Oh dear oh dear.... Australia in complete disarray at tea 96/7. Shades of Boxing Day 2010.....

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    @KARNAWAT33 on (July 19, 2013, 13:11 GMT), the technology showed that Hughes nicked it. The fact that Hughes didn't think he hit it is proof of nothing other than that he didn't think he hit it.

  • whatawicket on July 19, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    if they don't pass the follow on. my money on England to bat on. lead of 500+ on the cards. then all hard work from then on. expect the wicket which looks crumbly, is very dry, to be hard work

  • HansonKoch on July 19, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    @Riz000 I would be more convinced by Khawaja if he'd scored a few more runs in the Shield this year. For the life of me I can't see where the hype is coming from.

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    @Harmony111, We have been through this debate before. I have no problems in admitting that DRS is not perfect. But, I have noticed this tendency among some Indian fans here to even question genuine decisions especially when it is in favor of England. The Hughes review is an example. I know you were one of the few that pointed out Clarke standing his ground after edging the ball to slips off Kumble in Sydney when there was so much noise made for Broad standing his ground after doing the same in TB. Make no mistake, I think that Broad was totally wrong there. But, it was not DRS' fault. It was the Aussies' mistake that they used up reviews unnecessarily. DRS has its uses. Its implementation might have faults, does have faults but it does make the correct decisions most of the times.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    @poms_have_short_memories on (July 19, 2013, 13:09 GMT), the noise, the mark on HotSpot and Snicko all say that Hughes did hit it. What's your evidence that he didn't? The fact that he didn't think he hit it? I've seen three instances recently where the batsman didn't think he hit it when he actually did. This makes it four.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 14:56 GMT

    Lots of people are going to make a big deal about DRS again in this match but, quite frankly, it's all manufactured. Firstly, without DRS, Watson, Rogers and Hughes were all out anyway so you certainly can't say that DRS made anything worse. Secondly, Watson's review was very ill-advised. I'd be interested to know what Rogers advised but it was quite plumb. Rogers was obviously unlucky but the option to review was there and he chose not to. That was probably partly Watson's fault though. It was a mistake by the umpire but, to be honest, in real time I was more worried about height than line. The real beat-up is Phil Hughes dismissal. The fact that he didn't think he hit it is proof only that he didn't think he hit it and nothing else. We know from Clarke and Root at Trent Bridge that a batsman can hit the ball and not feel it. There was a mark on HotSpot, there was a noise in real time and Snicko backed that up. The evidence clearly says out, just as did the on-field umpire.

  • a328232 on July 19, 2013, 14:55 GMT

    Higest individual score for Australia so far is 30. Stuard Broad scored 33. There seems a lot of difference in the talent available in the 2 teams. DRS remains the same for both.

  • Greatest_Game on July 19, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    @ KARNAWAT33. I think that you answered your question when you wrote "just because a fellow team mate who referred a PLUMB LBW a few overs back he (Rogers) decided not to review it." Rogers was no doubt aware that Watson had pointlessly wasted a review, and as his dismissal was very unusual, he probably had little or no clear opinion of whether a review was justified. The umpiress' decisions, on average, are 90% correct, so on average only one batsman per innings will have a chance of a decision being overturned! If a batsman is not sure that a review has a strong chance of overturning a decision, he should not use it.

    You wrote "WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING TECHNOLOGY?" The point is it increases the accuracy of decisions from 90% to to 95%. Used wisely, it offers the batting team 2 chances to reverse the, on average, 1 bad decision. Used very well, technology can result in 100% correct decisions!

    P.S. We can read lower case letters, so you have no need to shout!

  • notimeforcricket on July 19, 2013, 14:49 GMT

    What are the odds that Simon katich will make a return? Phil Jacques is also in England at present, although he has not done so well, just got 100 though! They are 37 and 34 so not over the hill yet.

  • AidanFX on July 19, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    So the Australians sacked Micky Arthur in perfect timing hey? We can expect the Australians to be bowled out for a little over 100 given there is no Hussey to rescue them and Clarke is back in the pavilion.

  • Harmony111 on July 19, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    @Shan156: If you are talking about the Rogers' lbw/Haddin's wicket in the last test/Braod's non-dismissal there & Hughes wicket here then you need to know that 2 of these are shockers & 2 are proof of DRS's failure. How can Aus fans complain about Broad standing his ground when their own Captain has himself done that in the past? How can Aus fans say anything against DRS when they along with their Pom Cousins have been pushing it with so much energy all this while? How can Aus fans say anything about Rogers' lbw when their own players are too inept in using it (& cos they had made fun of so called Indian ineptness in understanding DRS).

    2 of these dismissals show that DRS is not just 'not perfect' but that it is way short of even being called reliable. Haddin's review last time showed TWO spots. Hughes' review showed none. Pls explain. The false positive in the former case is more worrying IMO.

    Using mic when you had DRS is like using RVM to park when the car has auto-sensors. LOL.

  • dazoncoast on July 19, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    Again, our batsmen (if you want to call them that) have been exposed for what they are.

    1. Watson is an all-rounder and not an opening bat. 2. Clarke is out of form and needs to step aside and get back into form. 3. The rest of the batsmen need to be sacked.

    Our bowlers aren't doing much better either. This is appalling! What is it going to take for our selectors to wake up and make some drastic changes to a failing side?

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 14:43 GMT

    @coldcoffee123 on (July 19, 2013, 13:00 GMT), do you see anyone like that in England's top order? Scoring quickly is nice if you can get it but it's far from essential in Test cricket. Watson didn't play any differently with Rogers than he did when he opened with Warner, who is a fast scorer. Watson just played the way he always plays. Unfortunately, he got out the way he always gets out too. Rogers has the patience and the sense to play the long game.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 14:42 GMT

    England currently 8/1 on favourites to win the Ashes.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    Boof, noun: the sound of deflating expectations.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 14:37 GMT

    117/9 and now 96/7, with no Agar. How Australia has fallen from the once-unbeatables.

  • notimeforcricket on July 19, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    Pressure brought the run out. After concern that England depended too much on Anderson, seem to be doing fine with the others leading the way! Hope they leave the heavy lifting to Bresnan in this match. Good job by the selectors. With this Australian team, best to keep it simple. They will get themselves out. Hence good move to replace Finn with Bresnan

  • Shan156 on July 19, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    I was critical of Bresnan too but he seems to bowling with purpose this innings. It is still too early to say that he has definitely got his nip that made him such a good bowler in 2011 back but the early signs are good. While he did go for 4 an over, that is fine because he was picking up wickets.

    The Aussies are losing their way here. That Agar run out was unfortunate and considering that Agar is a 19 year old playing only his second test, he can be forgiven for his mistake there. It is all good for England. Siddle in before Pattinson? Is he a better batsman than Patto?

  • Waisii on July 19, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    I bet this will be 5-0 series for aussies unless any miracle happes because they have not any world class spinner and have only an ordinary team composure.... best of luck

  • Haiphong on July 19, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    @SevereCritic, unfortunately I feel exactly the same way as you do. My interest has taken a nose-dive. Imagine, 6 down for under 100 on this wicket - one which everyone was calling a 450 wicket yesterday. i guess perhaps we need to accept the reality that this is a pretty poor team. Yes, everyone here has their opinion on who should be in or out but the reality is that nothing has worked. Truly a frustrating moment for an Aussie fan. One thing for sure (and I know I am showing my bias here), neither Hughes nor Warner belongs (the latter failing miserably even on the A tour). I'm beginning to see the whitewash several were talking about till a week ago...

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 14:33 GMT

    OZ were 0/42 at one stage on what looked like a good batting wicket, and make no mistake, it is a good batting wicket. We are now 6/91 as the woefully inept OZ top order continue to misfire. If the top order were a greyhound, you'd have no choice but to put it down. They have thoroughly undone any of the good work done by the bowlers, and now expect those same bowlers to ONCE AGAIN go out and score the bulk of the runs for the team. Yep, we all know that 'Boof' is a good bloke and all that, but he must seriously be starting to wonder just why he wanted the job in the first place. We are going to be annihilated in this test, pure and simple. OZ fans shouldn't care less about the DRS - that has nothing to do with our current predicament. Bowlers need to take 20 wickets, but they need runs to play with. The way things are panning out, we'll be lucky to have one centurion in the entire series. Well and truly outplayed by ENG on day 2, and that's the ball game.

  • Arrow011 on July 19, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    If you notice Ashton Agar he has thrived scoring when he was asked to play the way he knows, after discovering his potential as a brisk scorer, the australian team management has asked him to bat slowly & support Haddin in the 2nd innings of the Trent Bridge test. Again in this test he is playing slowly supporting Haddin (live update), I just do not understand why the team management cannot ask him to play to his strength?

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    No meat in the sandwich: inbetween Watson and Clarke, Aussie numbers 2-4 score 30 runs total.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    Lets see if the Aussie Tail cna post more than the top order. Maybe its time to reverese the batting as the Tail enders seem to know which end of the bat they need to hold.

    Hughes was a bad decsion and shouldnt have been out.

  • Frank_As on July 19, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    What does Darren do now? Rogers has done nothing. Khawaja out twice for his 14. And Watson - that bloke who threatened to walk away from tests after he didn't follow his boss's instructions in India. He then chucked in the vice captaincy, consistently whinged about not being opener (effectively undermining Cowan, who does actually value his wicket), and now wastes challenges each time he plays across the line and is lbw. Clarke's had an ordinary couple of tests, maybe Daz will bullet him too!

  • on July 19, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    Speaking from a batsmen point of view, the review system has changed from benefit of the doubt to the batsmen for close decisions. It is now benefit of the doubt to the umpire so they don't appear to get as many decisions wrong. Hard to take as a batsmen

  • Shaggy076 on July 19, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    This is appalling, I thought wickets this flat were only in Bangladesh. The bowling been good without much assistance, but every batsman has played a woeful shot to get out. The batsman have more talent this. As for Watson wasting the DRS call got a feeling if he didnt Clarke would have wasted it - so not sure he can admonish Watson.

  • browners76 on July 19, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Oh dear I'd stay at home Randy. Old Trafford will be an Anderson/Swann slaughter house. Zero effect Swann must be lucky today. As for Bell, well how times have changed. When Cook, KP and Prior finally hit their straps it will be carnage.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 14:17 GMT

    @Carl Sinclair (post on July 19, 2013, 13:53 GMT): Warner has just posted scores of 6 and 11 against Zimbabwe! I really don't understand why people think he's the answer to Aus. test cricket.

  • SevereCritic on July 19, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    Aussies cant even bat on a belter of a track. Really sad. Suddenly lost all interest in the Ashes. This is going to be as one sided as it can ever get.

  • H_Z_O on July 19, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    @Shaggy076 yeah, for me the real complaint about the Hughes dismissal should be the shot he played to get out. He showed so much discipline at Trent Bridge, where did that go today? Put you guys in a real hole. You'll avoid the follow-on (and Cook probably wouldn't enforce it anyway) because your lower order will score runs, but the top order yet again is mostly responsible for its own demise.

    It's weird, but I wonder if Australia gaining some belief after Trent Bridge actually hurt them. Being the underdog at Trent Bridge was good for them, they seemed to be determined to prove people wrong and fight hard. Here they seemed to feel as though bowling England out fairly cheaply was "job done" and the runs would just come because of how good the pitch is.

    Lehmann needs to get them playing like they did at Trent Bridge, that bit of Aussie mongrel, the heart and fight. You're not good enough to win this if you play loosely, we're a better side imho, but the great equaliser is Aussie grit.

  • on July 19, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    Speaking from a batsmen point of view, the current review system has changed from benefit of the doubt to the batsmen. It is now benefit of the doubt to the umpire so they don't appear to get as many decisions wrong

  • Riz000 on July 19, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    @HansonKoch mate for god sake give khawaja a chance he needs at-least full series before people can judge him yes he got out on a poor shot but we all have seen how well l Phil hughes watto rogers clarke played even tho they been playing regular so people chill give khawaja a chance in this series its possible Cowen might come back next test and only khawaja will be rested!! then recalled again in next 2 years time

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    ALERT: Haddin and Ashton are in the house. BEWARE ENGLAND.

  • H_Z_O on July 19, 2013, 14:07 GMT

    @Mitty2 I didn't see anything on Hotspot, but I still think there wasn't enough to be sure the umpire got it wrong. That's actually why I don't understand why people are pushing for DRS to be for catches and not lbws. It's considerably worse for catches, at least the ones there's any doubt over.

    It's very hard to prove a negative (that a batsman didn't hit it) because you need to have an absence of any proof they might have. Whereas to prove they did, you may be able to get away with just one piece of proof that can't be explained by another explanation (like a noise where neither the ball nor the bat are near the pad, or a mark where the bat's away from the pad), even if other evidence (lack of deviation, how the batsman reacts) suggests they might not have.

    Strangely enough it's much easier to prove an lbw, and even if you think Hawkeye is too inaccurate, it's as inaccurate for ones that are hitting as ones that are missing.

    Can't say the same for faint nicks and Hotspot/noise.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 14:07 GMT

    I like how we the viewers are able to see the replays of the Clarke LBW immediately. And it showed no edges. I say, do this for every LBW. And get rid of LBW from DRS. Just check for the edge, if no edge, on-field umpire's call is final.

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 14:07 GMT

    I think we should do away with DRS and introduce neutron activation analysis. Although the downside is that it could slow the game down a bit.

  • tests_the_best on July 19, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    90/5...oh my god! Do we have another whitewash on our hands?! C'mon Aus make this interesting.

  • 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on July 19, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    @homegrown_and_proud - yes I understood this to be the law also, although my work colleagues disagreed. I do feel it is an odd law if it is the case.

    however you look at it, it was a shocking passage of play all round - the ball, the shot, the decision to give out and the decision no to review (although if the above it indeed the case then perhaps not).

  • Surajrises on July 19, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    Australian team is displaying very very poor Cricket right now. This Australian team is losing reviews very quickly and it will certainly play in the batsman's mind who come after the reviews get over. Pitch tailor-made for Graeme Swann. I knew he would be the hero with the ball in this Test match...

  • RandyOZ on July 19, 2013, 13:59 GMT

    This is a seriously terrible effort by our top order. I cannot believe I have wasted so much money on the old trafford test.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    People argued with me about Warner: the guy has only gone and scored 6 and 11 against Zimbabwe! I'm telling you - guys like Warner and Hughes are not test standard! Short-format specialists at best...

  • Fluffykins on July 19, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    Once again,nothing wrong with DRS its the way its being used. Watson was off his rocker to throw a review away on a plumb lbw and Rogers clearly thought it was marginal given that he did not go upstairs. Clearly the Hughes nick was always going to be more contentious, but the third umpire should only overturn the on field decision with categorical proof and he went with the noise, which was the right way to go given that snicko showed the edge. Sorry, but what's the point of having the on field umpires, if marginals are going to overturned?

  • KGY27 on July 19, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    This is what happens when Cricket Australia send an inexperienced team to play an Ashes series. Despite all the positives in replacing the coach and the media hype of the rift etc, blah, blah, blah, there is only one group responsible for the team on the park. There are Aussie batsmen in the UK who would bring experience to the table. Remember Simon Katich? Treated so poorly by CA and our captain and the bottom line is he's still scoring runs and knows how to play a long dig!!!! Adam Voges is there and then there's Brad Hodge!!! Score 200 and get dropped!!! Gee I bet that's coming back to bite you now CA. Want to be competitive CA?? Then swallow you're pride and put the best team on the park which us a combo of experience and youth.

  • Shaggy076 on July 19, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    The Hughes dismissal really wasnt a howler by the umpire no evidence to overturn it and thus remain umpires call. I think the right decision was made.

  • H_Z_O on July 19, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    @palavadisuresh "i know concrete evidence is needed to over rule on field umpire's call then how hughes was given out since there no white dot in hotspot."

    Because he was given out by the on field umpire. Snick-o might not be a part of the DRS, but the stump mics are, and there was a definite noise on the mic. The lack of a white mark doesn't mean he didn't hit it; that's what we were told when Root was given out for a caught behind despite no Hotspot. Faint edges don't always show.

    The fact is there was no conclusive evidence he didn't hit it. Had it been given not-out, and England reviewed, it would have stayed not-out. Had there been no noise, Hughes' review would have been upheld and he'd have been given not-out. But the fact it was given out, and there was some proof he hit it, and nothing conclusively showing he didn't, meant it was the right decision.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    Bring in Warner, Voges and Bailey asap.

  • bouncedout on July 19, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Brilliant from England. The depth in our fast bowler department is extraordinary.

    Thought Pattinson was great yesterday.....and today for that matter......the saviour of Aus cricket! lol

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    England will most likely win every test because the Aussies have such poor batting, such a shame as I thought we had a chance in the beginning.

  • homegrown_and_proud on July 19, 2013, 13:50 GMT

    Regardless of whether the ball would have gone on to miss leg stump. as the LBW law is currently defined a full toss that hits the batman in line (stump to stump) has to be given as out. I don't agree with it as in many cases (eg massive inswinger hitting RHB in line line with leg stump) the ball would obviously have missed the stumps - but the umpire is not allowed to take that into account. Was Rogers hit in line with leg stump?

  • heathrf1974 on July 19, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    Whether or not the DRS system is used. The media will point out errors by umpires by using their own devices .The DRS is here to stay. However, I must admit the hotspot can sometimes be a bit dicey.

  • JG2704 on July 19, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    @jmcilhinney - I love it when that happens. My favourite is Mr GS. It seems every time he predicts something the exact opposite happens

    @KARNAWAT33 - You can't blame technology if a player doesn't review something which could have been reversed. BTW - to me this Ashes so far will be remembered for twists and turns in the games. Re The umpires get 60% correct - think you're bang wrong there

    @coldcoffee123 - It's test cricket not ODIs. I think Bell scored at a similarish rate early in his inns yet he was the difference between Eng getting a poor-mediocre score and an acceptable - good score. BTW DRS works fine for me

  • 5wombats on July 19, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    4/79 dear oh dear what was Khawaja thinking about!?! TERRIBLE shot!!

  • popcorn on July 19, 2013, 13:46 GMT

    Enough of Watson.He is as explosive as a popgun. He only flatters to deceive.He should be sent back to State or County Cricket, and only after he has scored 10 hundreds should he cosidered for selection in The Test side. If that does not coincide with the start of The Ashes in Australia, so be it.Watson has now become undependable.

  • HansonKoch on July 19, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    Khawaja not the answer. What a surprise.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 13:40 GMT

    So much for Australias Plan A : Target Anderson out of the attack and make hay against the Secondary bowlers.

  • Mitty2 on July 19, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    Well, I guess that settles the khawaja debate then. That shot was disgracefully bad, a little bit of pressure, he wilted. Look to not see any comments from those with hyphens in their names, ie 'Fleming_mitch' and 'Big_maxy_walker'... He has been terribly treated and has been stupidly deprived of FC games - notibly the shield final (or just any game against India where every batsmen failed) - but that shot wasnt indicative of a lack of match practise; it was indicative of a lack of mental toughness. Khawaja is notorious for wasting starts - although I wouldn't call that a start - but like Watson, he is very talented. Please usman, don't end up like Watson.

    On the Hughes dismissal, he didn't feel it (didn't even look back) and the snicko went off in my eyes after the ball had passed the bat, but there was a tiny mark on hot spot and evidence to overturn the decision... But what matters is is that his shot was just terrible.

    What's worse is that there's been no real good eng bowling.

  • brittop on July 19, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    @Siddhartha Das & @poms_have_short_memories: Nonsense, Snicko picked up Hughes' obvious edge.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Is there a reason why teams can't have more reviews? Everyone wants to see correct decisions. Tests can go for 5 days what's a few more minutes to check a few extra reviews each day?

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 19, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Batsmen are gambling with DRS. Watson gambled it and cost Rogers wicket. Should have walked like cook when you know it is plumb. Other wise it creates pressure on others and creates more damage like in rogers case.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:33 GMT

    Khwacha?? What is he doing in the australian sqaud..

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 13:33 GMT

    The solution to all DRS woes is so simple, yet human intelligence (or stupidity) baffles me. Just like the way humans have killed each other in the name of "which religion is better". Shameful.

  • KARNAWAT33 on July 19, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    @coldcoffee123 Totally agree with you mate. There was a some good cricket at display in the 1st test no doubt, but as far as the umpiring is concerned, it's horrible. With Khwaja gone, after playing, a surprising shot, to say the least, I'm not switching the TV on till tomorrow. And by the way, this is a slap on the face of all those BRILLIANT MINDS, who suggested that Ricky Ponting and Michael Hussey, should not play anymore. That's the result, 2-0 down in 2 games.

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    There you go, Watto's imbecilic review virtually forces Rogers to cop it sweet. Still with Clarke at the crease it's time for Khawaja to epoxy resin his place in the side.

  • Biggus on July 19, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    @Jono Makim:-Yeah I know mate, now Boof's told him he's the one he can't back track so soon. He just hasn't got an opener's technique, test match wise. He just plonks that great big foot down the wicket, plays very early when openers need to play late to combat early swing and predictably gets nailed LBW. He's not buying much time for the middle order and not tiring the bowlers out. Despite the modern fetish for wham bam openers I think what this team needs most of all ATM is stability at the top. Jeez, what are Bill Lawry and Ian Redpath doing these days? And while I'm at it Khawaja worries me in defence as well. Unless it's an optical illusion he seems to stand tall and play with a very stiff front knee and as an ex offie (finally hung up my boots 2 years ago at age 48) that's the sort of thing I'd be most encouraged to see coming around the wicket with a couple of guys around the bat. At 3-68 as I write this all I can say is I'm feeling pretty deflated by today's proceedings.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 13:22 GMT

    @northandsouth Clarke wasted a view for the batsmen in his side still to come. Broad did not. Was Clarke disrespecting the umpires by leading his side off the field before their verdict had been given?

  • Iddo555 on July 19, 2013, 13:22 GMT

    Khawaja should have been out on 7 to Swann. Trott dropping a simple chance. Let's hope it doesn't cost England too much

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on July 19, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    oh my god, what is happening with drs. Get rid of this drs first. Snicko is not a part of the drs and i know concrete evidence is needed to over rule on field umpire's call then how hughes was given out since there no white dot in hotspot. No wonder why bcci opposes it.

  • 5wombats on July 19, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    3/67 What a bizarre passage of play!!! Rogers given out LBW by the redoubtable Erasmus - a man who cannot it seems keep himself out of trouble. A crazy delivery from Swann to account for Rogers. Amazing. Most definitely another what the icc would call "error". And then Hughes getting out again to another one going across him. Will that guy ever learn? What was he doing reviewing that? Snicko not admissible I know - but everyone on the ground heard it along with the Ump. No reviews left for Aus now they have done it again! Looks a different pitch with England bowling on it.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    If ICC wants to stick with 2-review limit, it must reduce the time to call for a review to something like 3 seconds. That way a player will not have time to "think of the consequences of using up a review", rather only the genuine cases will show up. That is what Warne is saying in the commentary box as well "Instant review by a player".

  • Surajrises on July 19, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    Once again Australians have lost their review very early in the innings. Last match, 4th innings, Nasir Hussain said very clearly that its gonna come down to the lost reviews by Australia and 2 still left with England. Now even if therz gonna be no noise while the batsman has missed to edge it, Brits would appeal and he would have to walk off. Aussies r losing this game big time.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    With that run out query - why does the side on view show the square leg umpire 500mm forward of the line. Poor umpiring..... Poor positioning.

  • Surajrises on July 19, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    What on the earth are the Aussies doing? What's the hurry? Are they gonna catch a plane tonight? Poor Cricket being displayed by the Australian Batsmen...

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    I must say that I am not enjoying Ashes at all. All this DRS talk has made my mind go numb.

  • KARNAWAT33 on July 19, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    Philip Hughes did not nick the ball. He did not look back, instinctively, like most batsmen usually do. None of the commentators were convinced. Technology showed that it was very dicey, 70 percent in favor of the batsman. Only if the on field umpires wouldn't have been there to create that doubt or stamp their authority. Technology gets 90 percent decisions correct. Umpires, well, maybe 60 percent. WHAT IS THE NEED OF UMPIRES? Cricket needs a move on with time. This Ashes has been famous for the wrong reasons, and continues to do so.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:10 GMT

    poor poor poorr decisions by roger

  • poms_have_short_memories on July 19, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    Wow, the umpires certainly aren't resting on their laurels. Rogers wasn't out, although he should have reviewed and Hughes didn't hit it. Australia vs England and the umpires.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    I have always been saying "LBW must be decided by on-field umpires. No reviews must be allowed, barring genuine edges. If no edge is revealed, impose 5-run penalty for abusing DRS and challenging umpire for no reason." DRS works fine. The implementation (2-review limit) is faulty.

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    Phil hughes should not have been given out, terrible decision!!

  • Mitty2 on July 19, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Khawaja, as he was against Sunil Narine in the ODI's, looks incredibly uncomfortable against quality off spin. Extremely fortunate that trott dropped that "dolly"... Hopefully he can push on from his reprieve and justify the support he gets from so many

  • lankymanky on July 19, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    interesting 2 overs from Swann. The high leg side full toss got a wicket which should had been reversed Had either Watson not wasted a review or Usman gave decent advice. Then England try to balance it out with the Trott drop and then Swann not appealing for a decent "umpires call" LBW shout which may had been given if Swann went up..

  • on July 19, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    watsan is not vary person to open the inning. He actually play after middleoder.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, Aus was going no where with Rogers stagnating one end. Watson had to cut lose. Imagine the score had Watson been out on 5. Rogers is still on 6 off 30 odd balls. It is not as if this is day 5, last session, with Aus desperately hoping for a draw. This is Aus first innings. With somebody like Hayden, Slater, Sehwag, the score would be 100+ by now, on this pitch. Did you see how Broad and Swann batted?

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 12:58 GMT

    Well finally Clarke has seen the sense to stay down at position 5! All this nonsense about 'hiding' is silly; if you play best in the middle order, STAY in the middle order. I'll be consistently saying this about Joe Root for England as well if he doesn't perform in the opening role again next few innings.

  • KARNAWAT33 on July 19, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    And the umpiring howlers begin for the day. So a few seconds later, technology shows that a batsman was NOT OUT, and just because a fellow team mate who referred a PLUMB LBW a few overs back he decided not to review it. WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING TECHNOLOGY?

  • on July 19, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    hope boof gave watto a serve about using that review. what did pat Howard say about watto - does not always do what's best for the team. or something down that line. one word sums it up, selfish.

  • Surajrises on July 19, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    Watson's wicket isn't gonna impress Darren Lehmann that to just before lunch break.All the hard work undone for Watto. It's a great batting wicket right now and Watto has led to his own downfall.

  • on July 19, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    @Biggus, the problem is Boof walked straight in and told him he is the opener. Clearly the coach is willing to put him there in front of a bunch of others, though to be fair, there isn't too many I could think of that would bring more to the table, which is really pretty unfortunate!

    Come on Ussie, bat 'til stumps son.

  • Mitty2 on July 19, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    @Chris_p, as usual, agree entirely. I was one of the few who constantly stood up for Cowan and (still do) denigrated Watson and saying that Cowan is of superior worth simply because he values his wicket... But that last test has seriously tainted my and manys image of Cowan. If you've got a strength, stick to it. But at least Cowan has a strength, I once got a "Mitty, Watson has more talent in his little finger than Cowan does at all"... Not only is that hilarious, but for all Watson's supposed talent, in forty plus test, he has barely put in any match winning efforts, if at all. Give me gritty grinding batsmen over prima donna, flashy batsmen any day of the week

  • EnglishCricket on July 19, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    Australia batting has become boring now.

  • 5wombats on July 19, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    Aussie mates - please don't take this as a gloat - but what is it with Watson??? I remember the early days in his career when he was a firebrand 50 overs allrounder - in fact I seem to remember him at the SGC in a daynighter in 2002 V England. He was getting slapped all around the ground by England and he was really giving it the verbals. That image has always stayed with me, and I've never regarded him as anything other than a reasonable ODI player. Ashes opener - he ain't. Well played to Harris though - I thought he would go well and he has. A good bowler.

  • KARNAWAT33 on July 19, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Why would a batsman of Shane Watson's caliber and a non striker of Chris Rogers's experience waste a review of a PLUMB LBW? Clarke's howler of a review in the last game, doesn't look a howler anymore. Disappointing to see my favorite cricketer get out and waste a review, but the harsh reality is that, "they won't let you have another go, just because you are looking in good nick". #Hope it doesn't cost Australia the match like it did at Trent Bridge.

  • Samdanh on July 19, 2013, 12:35 GMT

    Watson is a perfect fit for number 7 or 8. It is strange he is being selected to open. Feel sorry for Watson and Australia.

  • Chris_P on July 19, 2013, 12:34 GMT

    @coldcoffee. This is the way Rogers plays, a risk free run accumulator. Is it exciting? Is it electric? Nope, bit it is very, very effective, you don't have a career average of 50 plus without possessing something special & with hard work. if he gets to 41 runs, he will be the first batsmen to 1000 runs this season, so he is apparently doing something right.

  • notimeforcricket on July 19, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    Jimmy does not look right. Worried the first match has taken a lot out of him. Swann's bowling also looks off colour. I am now glad Bresnan is playing a at least he should get through some heavy work, bowl line and length and nick out a couple. Really hope he and Broad step up and Cook shows one imagination

  • Northandsouth on July 19, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    2MikeGattings - Clarke was also criticised and has since admitted it was a foolish move on his part. It would be inconsistent not to be equally critical of Broad, particularly as it is becoming a pattern of behaviour. In most peoples' eyes, there is a difference between walk v stand, and trying to stand when you know you're legitimately out AND have been given so by the umpire. You may think that's fine, but it would be unrealistic not to recognise that many others disagree and consider it unsportsmanlike.

  • Chris_P on July 19, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding. Maybe he was under the delusion it was missing middle stump? it was missing both leg & off at least!

  • Chris_Howard on July 19, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    Watson getting out always comes with a bonus for England of a wasted review. With Watto in the team, we only effectively get one review when batting. The Poms must love it.

  • Biggus on July 19, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    I have to say I'm a bit annoyed at our boys this morning. First undisciplined bowling gives the English too many easy runs to end their innings, and then Watson blows a review on a highly speculative attempt to escape his fate. I don't like Watson opening in tests and never have, despite his apparent belief that it's where he should be batting. We need more from our openers than thirty or forty quick runs which is all we get from him. He really is such a glaring candidate for LBW, and someone really needs to pull him to one side and tell him the truth:-that he doesn't have what it takes to open in test matches, more so when our top order is as fragile as it is. If this is what has been causing the rift with Clarke I'm afraid I'm on the captain's side of this argument.

  • AidanFX on July 19, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    If Broad nicked it - and he is given out - geez go back to the pavilion. Yes I know they had reviews to waste but it is no different to smashing the ball to cover when you are 2 wickets in hand - you go straight to the pavilion. And yes, I am quite aware the Australians have wasted their referrals. I respect Cook for having the sense to just go straight back. The Australians need to do some homework on this issue - i think Lehman has to pull them up as he is starting to do regarding no-balls.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Patto's form must be a huge worry for the selectors at this stage of the series. Very disappointing.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    @coldcoffee123 on (July 19, 2013, 11:45 GMT), what are you talking about? This is only his third innings since returning to the side, he's not out here and he scored 52 in his last innings. He's a cautious batsman so don't expect him to cut loose like Watson. He doesn't look to be struggling at all quite frankly.

  • voma on July 19, 2013, 12:20 GMT

    coldcoffee123 , i would say Jimmy is pretty exceptional mate . LOL

  • Chris_P on July 19, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    That was about all the attention span Watson can offer up. That is the reason he has a poor conversion rate. And for all you Cowan knockers, Watson's efforts are far below that of Cowan's for the past 3 years, by about 5 per wicket. He has continued to keep his average sub 30 for the past 3 years with no apparent review of his place. And I really wish I was referring to his bowling average, but sadly not. With him out of the way, we may yet see the application required for test cricket by the rest coming in, mark me off as one who doesn't think Watson has it for tests.

  • AidanFX on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    Australian's lately like to hand in wickets just prior to lunch/tea if not just after.

  • ZCFOutkast on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    Another 'failure' for Watson. Mark Cosgrove's call up edging closer perhaps? Ignore the guys in Southern Africa, get him on a flight! Khawaja had better this chance worthwhile. Not holding my breath though. A ton for Smith? Hope so.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    I found it rather funny that just a couple of balls before Bresnan dismissed Watson, there were a couple of Australian fans posting comments thanking England for picking Tim Bresnan. You're welcome! I think a lot of people are judging Bresnan by his performance over a period when he was clearly carrying a a chronic condition caused by his first elbow surgery. It was a mistake for England to keep picking then and it has damaged his reputation significantly. If that makes batsmen underestimate him now though, all the better. Since his second surgery, Bresnan has been back to at least close to his best, if not equal to his best. I agree that he looks quite innocuous as he seems to just trundle up to the crease and roll the arm over but he is definitely quicker than he looks and, as Watson has found to his detriment, he can do something with the ball too.

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    Congrats to Harris, a well deserved 5-wicket haul at the Home of Cricket. Regardless of the outcome, a memory he's sure to treasure. Watson just went LBW after making yet another start - if ever there's been a walking advertisement for squandered talent, it's him. With his ability, he should have chalked up ten 100's by now and be averaging mid-40's. Hope Khawaja does well, or AUS may find themselves in the all too familiar position of being 5/150 or less. The top order simply MUST lay the platform for this innings (and the match). If ENG get a lead, it will be Mission Impossible for AUS to claw their way back into this match.

  • MartinC on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Watson is an enigma - he looks like a million dollars, very sound technique on the surface, gets in .....and then gets out. You need more than that from your opening batsman. I think Watson plants his front foot too much to be a high class opener - he is an LBW candidate and also gets in trouble if there is a bit of bounce.

    Very even position at lunch on the second day

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Glad to see Watson wasted a review on a plumb LBW.

  • vsroc on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Posted by Venkat Sraman on (July 19,2013) Apart from excellent batting by J.Trott,Ian Bell,and Bairstow for England in the second Ashes test series,Ryan Harris and Steve Smith of Australia bowled excellently well to restrict England.Let us all hope for the best to happen in the remaining part of the second test.

  • Englishmanabroad on July 19, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    Another wasted review by Australia. There was very little doubt about whether Watson was out, but he wasted a review, just to confirm it. Of course, if the situation arises where a review is needed, but they have none left, then they system will be labelled unfair. The Aussie captain needs to discuss this with his team.

    It could be said that Broad's review was also pointless, but hey, it was the 10 wicket so why not use whatever reviews you have left.

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 12:06 GMT

    The sooner they get rid of Watson the better. It's a miracle he wasn't out before scoring, then after 3 close calls he's still swiping across the line, then after settling in nicely and just about to go off for lunch he throws his wicket away and then wastes a review on a plumb lbw to emphasise the point what a liability he is.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    Watson cutting loose here now... England need to be careful. No width or dropping short...

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 11:49 GMT

    Clarke nicked off and reviewed it a Trent Bridge, so why not Broad here? Arguably it was a less wasteful review, since there was no batting to come.

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 11:45 GMT

    Rogers made tons of runs in county cricket. But kinda struggling in Aussie uniform. What's the deal? Are county bowlers mediocre? Or are Tim/Broad/Jimmy exceptional?

  • coldcoffee123 on July 19, 2013, 11:45 GMT

    Rogers made tons of runs in county cricket. But kinda struggling in Aussie uniform. What's the deal? Are county bowlers mediocre? Or are Tim/Broad/Jimmy exceptional?

  • 2MikeGattings on July 19, 2013, 11:49 GMT

    Clarke nicked off and reviewed it a Trent Bridge, so why not Broad here? Arguably it was a less wasteful review, since there was no batting to come.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 19, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    Watson cutting loose here now... England need to be careful. No width or dropping short...

  • disco_bob on July 19, 2013, 12:06 GMT

    The sooner they get rid of Watson the better. It's a miracle he wasn't out before scoring, then after 3 close calls he's still swiping across the line, then after settling in nicely and just about to go off for lunch he throws his wicket away and then wastes a review on a plumb lbw to emphasise the point what a liability he is.

  • Englishmanabroad on July 19, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    Another wasted review by Australia. There was very little doubt about whether Watson was out, but he wasted a review, just to confirm it. Of course, if the situation arises where a review is needed, but they have none left, then they system will be labelled unfair. The Aussie captain needs to discuss this with his team.

    It could be said that Broad's review was also pointless, but hey, it was the 10 wicket so why not use whatever reviews you have left.

  • vsroc on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Posted by Venkat Sraman on (July 19,2013) Apart from excellent batting by J.Trott,Ian Bell,and Bairstow for England in the second Ashes test series,Ryan Harris and Steve Smith of Australia bowled excellently well to restrict England.Let us all hope for the best to happen in the remaining part of the second test.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Glad to see Watson wasted a review on a plumb LBW.

  • MartinC on July 19, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Watson is an enigma - he looks like a million dollars, very sound technique on the surface, gets in .....and then gets out. You need more than that from your opening batsman. I think Watson plants his front foot too much to be a high class opener - he is an LBW candidate and also gets in trouble if there is a bit of bounce.

    Very even position at lunch on the second day

  • thebrotherswaugh on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    Congrats to Harris, a well deserved 5-wicket haul at the Home of Cricket. Regardless of the outcome, a memory he's sure to treasure. Watson just went LBW after making yet another start - if ever there's been a walking advertisement for squandered talent, it's him. With his ability, he should have chalked up ten 100's by now and be averaging mid-40's. Hope Khawaja does well, or AUS may find themselves in the all too familiar position of being 5/150 or less. The top order simply MUST lay the platform for this innings (and the match). If ENG get a lead, it will be Mission Impossible for AUS to claw their way back into this match.

  • jmcilhinney on July 19, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    I found it rather funny that just a couple of balls before Bresnan dismissed Watson, there were a couple of Australian fans posting comments thanking England for picking Tim Bresnan. You're welcome! I think a lot of people are judging Bresnan by his performance over a period when he was clearly carrying a a chronic condition caused by his first elbow surgery. It was a mistake for England to keep picking then and it has damaged his reputation significantly. If that makes batsmen underestimate him now though, all the better. Since his second surgery, Bresnan has been back to at least close to his best, if not equal to his best. I agree that he looks quite innocuous as he seems to just trundle up to the crease and roll the arm over but he is definitely quicker than he looks and, as Watson has found to his detriment, he can do something with the ball too.