The Investec Ashes 2013 July 23, 2013

Ponting attacks CA's BBL hype

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Ricky Ponting has dealt out heavy criticism of Cricket Australia for rolling out reams of Big Bash League hype in the hours after the Test team's 347-run humiliation at Lord's.

A flurry of press releases trumpeting the BBL's success and the signings of players landed in email inboxes around the world as England's players were celebrating their 2-0 series lead, while a slightly sheepish-looking Michael Hussey emerged from a helicopter at Sydney's Olympic Stadium to promote his signing for the Thunder after choosing to retire ahead of the India and Ashes tours.

Ponting, who alongside Adam Gilchrist has signed with Network Ten as a BBL commentator and will be used heavily as a selling point for the competition's move to free-to-air television, was nonetheless "flabbergasted" to see so much CA airspace devoted to Twenty20 at the same moment the Test team's state of severe disrepair was laid bare for all to see.

"I was flabbergasted when Cricket Australia put out a statement on Sunday night promoting the success of the Big Bash Twenty20 league because the timing, coming so soon after that heavy defeat at Lord's, was not ideal," Ponting wrote in the Daily Mail. "Cricket Australia is a business and they have invested a lot of time in the Big Bash while cuts have been made in first-class cricket. I can see what they were trying to do with that statement but we must remember that the strength of this business will be measured by the success of the national team."

Having viewed the Lord's match closely, Ponting also argued that shuffling of the batting order from one Test to another had contributed to the dire first innings 128 that essentially sealed Australia's fate. Ponting called on his successor Michael Clarke to stick to a position, noting that his move from No. 4 at Trent Bridge to No. 5 at Lord's had forced Phillip Hughes to move out of a position at No. 6 he had just gained confidence in by making 81 in the first Test.

"One thing Australia must have is stability, particularly in their batting order," Ponting wrote. "Clarke was back at five having been at four at Trent Bridge, which led to other players like Phil Hughes being moved too, and I believe that your best player should be at three or four, particularly in an inexperienced line-up. There have been nine different players, I think, at three since I stopped batting there and Australia need to make their minds up over who should bat there and in the other positions and stick with them.

"I moved Michael to four a few years ago because I thought it would be for the betterment of him and the team when it became clear he was becoming our best player, but if he feels that it is best to be at five, that's where he needs to bat."

Amid all manner of hand wringing over the Test team's poor results, now stretching to six consecutive Test match defeats, Ponting said it would be unwise to resort to short-term solutions, like the recall of the prolific Simon Katich.

"Let's get one thing clear. Australia cannot flick a switch and suddenly everything will be all right. We are not going to have a big group of young promising players all coming through to make things better," Ponting said. "There are no better players outside this group who could come to the rescue but that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of talent in this Australia team. It is just that many of them have to find their feet in the biggest series of them all.

"There has been talk about a call-up for somebody like Simon Katich, who is going very well at Lancashire, but there is no point in looking back. This sort of thing used to come up with Shane Warne when Australia were trying to replace him and it would not solve anything to look at stop-gap measures. The selectors have picked these players as the best we have, and it was only a week ago after Trent Bridge we were saying how close things are."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • IPSY on July 24, 2013, 0:22 GMT

    Contd: Test cricket these days look boring because the modern batsmen play just in accordance with their coaches ideals. Everything you see from them is coached - the old and stale cliche': "the right technique", which goes through the window when the said batsmen play a T/20 match! The thing that made those great names mentioned earlier (and few more) better than the rest and all those today was their natural ability to take risks, and successfully so nearly every time! The modern test match batsman does not have the confidence to take risks, fearing that they would lose their wicket, which is the case most times. Hence, T/20 cricket is not necessarily more entertaining than test cricket; instead, it's the T/20 batsmen who don't have the temparament to do what they do in T/20 for long enough periods in test cricket! It was in test cricket that Bradman made the most runs in a day; Viv scored the fastest 100; Lara made the most runs in an over, Sobers kept the record of 365 for decades.

  • IPSY on July 23, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    The idea that T/20 cricket is more entertaining than test cricket can't be farther from the truth! Did you see, or read about the Gt Sir Don Bradman vs the great bowlers of his time, especially in the Bodyline Series? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see, or read about the Gt Sir Garfield Sobers vs the best bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see or read about the Gt Sir Viv Richards vs Lilee and Thompson, and other great bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Have you ever seen or read about the Gt Sunil Gavascar vs the great fast bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Have you ever seen or read about the Gt Brian Lara vs all the great bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see KP vs Dale Steyn in England last year? Which T/20 is more entertaining than that? Though not in same class: a Sehwag or Dhawan innings! Cont'd:

  • MinusZero on July 23, 2013, 23:45 GMT

    Well said Punter, i couldnt believe their timing either. T20 represents everything that is wrong with cricket. It isnt the pinnacle of the sport, tests are. Why cant they telecast Shield cricket on free to air. Or have a half hour show about the day's cricket, it would get people more interested and maybe crowds would go up.

  • righthandbat on July 27, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    I would have Clarke batting at three, no exceptions. With the current crop of players, I think the only XI worth trying is:

    Warner, Watson, Clarke, Khawaja, Smith, Hughes, Haddin, Agar, Siddle, Harris, Bird.

    As far as I am concerned, the Warner-Watson opening combination is potentially match-winning. If it fails after this Ashes series I would swap the openers for Silk and Cosgrove in the Australian series.

  • Clyde on July 26, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    The lovers of the shorter forms need to understand that people like me find these forms repulsive when they are allowed to intrude on 'representative cricket'. When I saw the depiction of a stroke played by the perfectly admirable Misbah in coloured clothes on Cricinfo the other day I felt slightly nauseous (his may have been one effect Cricinfo had in mind), because it was at a moment when Australia had proven unable to produce enough good orthodox batting. I have complete respect for those who like the shorter forms, but to me a career in cricket is, from school child to adult, a progression in 'representative cricket' to bigger grounds and longer games. Australia have recently not seemed to respect the crucial aspect that is representing one's increasing constituency from school to State to country. The publicity (and especially its timing) about BBL that Ponting, thankfully, has criticised, was grotesque. What kind of a country or set of states is BBL? Please explain in detail.

  • on July 25, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    National cricket administration in both Australia and New Zealand has sadly been at best confused and at worst a total embarrassment. Who in effected who with this virus containing ineptitude, incompetence, and ineffectiveness? Is it only to be found in offices of southern hemisphere cricket administrators? How contagious is it? Will it reach the northern hemisphere and will it be as virulent? And the burning question, how can it be treated? It has not been a good year for both countries and it has certainly contributed to many low points for fans in both countries, and indeed the players themselves. One only has to look at the rankings for both countries to see the effects of this viral outbreak.

  • siddhartha87 on July 25, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Ponting is absolutely correct here. Australia must stick to a batting line up. Problems will be there when you are trying to replace all time time greats like ponting,hussey,warne etc .It will take time.That is part of the game. But still they need to learn to bat for longer period of time. Guys like Hughes and Khwaja needs to step up.But somehow they lack the X- factor. Bring back Warner for the 3rd test please. I am not saying that he will come and score tons but definitely he is a huge future prospect.

  • on July 25, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Stop gap measures are exactly what Australia need! Build for the future? Has everyone forgotten there is an Ashes still up for grabs right now? Try the new players in games 4 and 5. Bring back Katich for the next test, primed for English conditions. Even Ponting has been ripping up County cricket. Plead Warney to play! One game, bring back the players who actually know what it's like to win a game. If that fails, then build for the future. Series is still on the line.

  • stormy16 on July 25, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    I wonder is the success of the cricket administration is the success of its national team as suggested by Ponting or the bank balance, which I believe is fast becoming the reality and hence the focus on the lucrative T20. Regardless Aus has a problem and surely we cannot all go down the "T20 is to blame" story. India already has done that and at it never really went anywhere. Firstly Eng are a terrific team, and it's being suggested it's one of it's all time great sides while Aus in a rebuilding phase. The issue I reckon and hope is not a talent but a mental issue. Aus have had too many off field fiasco's in recent times including appointing a new coach days before the first test. The Watto role is uncertain and they made some strange selections choices. Strangely all these things only happen when you are down and Aus just needs to ride this out and regroup but the current Ashes are going to be a disaster.

  • on July 25, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    Agree totally with R Ponting comments.. Timing of BBL announcements not a good look at all. It amazes me Ricky Ponting, Australian test cricket legend, is able to make good constructive comments as a new TV commentator, yet in NZ, if past internationals make constructive comments they are fired.. E.g. M Crowe, S Wilson or M Mexted for starters.. On ya Ricky..

  • IPSY on July 24, 2013, 0:22 GMT

    Contd: Test cricket these days look boring because the modern batsmen play just in accordance with their coaches ideals. Everything you see from them is coached - the old and stale cliche': "the right technique", which goes through the window when the said batsmen play a T/20 match! The thing that made those great names mentioned earlier (and few more) better than the rest and all those today was their natural ability to take risks, and successfully so nearly every time! The modern test match batsman does not have the confidence to take risks, fearing that they would lose their wicket, which is the case most times. Hence, T/20 cricket is not necessarily more entertaining than test cricket; instead, it's the T/20 batsmen who don't have the temparament to do what they do in T/20 for long enough periods in test cricket! It was in test cricket that Bradman made the most runs in a day; Viv scored the fastest 100; Lara made the most runs in an over, Sobers kept the record of 365 for decades.

  • IPSY on July 23, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    The idea that T/20 cricket is more entertaining than test cricket can't be farther from the truth! Did you see, or read about the Gt Sir Don Bradman vs the great bowlers of his time, especially in the Bodyline Series? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see, or read about the Gt Sir Garfield Sobers vs the best bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see or read about the Gt Sir Viv Richards vs Lilee and Thompson, and other great bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Have you ever seen or read about the Gt Sunil Gavascar vs the great fast bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Have you ever seen or read about the Gt Brian Lara vs all the great bowlers of his time? Which T/20 match is more entertaining than that? Did you see KP vs Dale Steyn in England last year? Which T/20 is more entertaining than that? Though not in same class: a Sehwag or Dhawan innings! Cont'd:

  • MinusZero on July 23, 2013, 23:45 GMT

    Well said Punter, i couldnt believe their timing either. T20 represents everything that is wrong with cricket. It isnt the pinnacle of the sport, tests are. Why cant they telecast Shield cricket on free to air. Or have a half hour show about the day's cricket, it would get people more interested and maybe crowds would go up.

  • righthandbat on July 27, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    I would have Clarke batting at three, no exceptions. With the current crop of players, I think the only XI worth trying is:

    Warner, Watson, Clarke, Khawaja, Smith, Hughes, Haddin, Agar, Siddle, Harris, Bird.

    As far as I am concerned, the Warner-Watson opening combination is potentially match-winning. If it fails after this Ashes series I would swap the openers for Silk and Cosgrove in the Australian series.

  • Clyde on July 26, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    The lovers of the shorter forms need to understand that people like me find these forms repulsive when they are allowed to intrude on 'representative cricket'. When I saw the depiction of a stroke played by the perfectly admirable Misbah in coloured clothes on Cricinfo the other day I felt slightly nauseous (his may have been one effect Cricinfo had in mind), because it was at a moment when Australia had proven unable to produce enough good orthodox batting. I have complete respect for those who like the shorter forms, but to me a career in cricket is, from school child to adult, a progression in 'representative cricket' to bigger grounds and longer games. Australia have recently not seemed to respect the crucial aspect that is representing one's increasing constituency from school to State to country. The publicity (and especially its timing) about BBL that Ponting, thankfully, has criticised, was grotesque. What kind of a country or set of states is BBL? Please explain in detail.

  • on July 25, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    National cricket administration in both Australia and New Zealand has sadly been at best confused and at worst a total embarrassment. Who in effected who with this virus containing ineptitude, incompetence, and ineffectiveness? Is it only to be found in offices of southern hemisphere cricket administrators? How contagious is it? Will it reach the northern hemisphere and will it be as virulent? And the burning question, how can it be treated? It has not been a good year for both countries and it has certainly contributed to many low points for fans in both countries, and indeed the players themselves. One only has to look at the rankings for both countries to see the effects of this viral outbreak.

  • siddhartha87 on July 25, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Ponting is absolutely correct here. Australia must stick to a batting line up. Problems will be there when you are trying to replace all time time greats like ponting,hussey,warne etc .It will take time.That is part of the game. But still they need to learn to bat for longer period of time. Guys like Hughes and Khwaja needs to step up.But somehow they lack the X- factor. Bring back Warner for the 3rd test please. I am not saying that he will come and score tons but definitely he is a huge future prospect.

  • on July 25, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Stop gap measures are exactly what Australia need! Build for the future? Has everyone forgotten there is an Ashes still up for grabs right now? Try the new players in games 4 and 5. Bring back Katich for the next test, primed for English conditions. Even Ponting has been ripping up County cricket. Plead Warney to play! One game, bring back the players who actually know what it's like to win a game. If that fails, then build for the future. Series is still on the line.

  • stormy16 on July 25, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    I wonder is the success of the cricket administration is the success of its national team as suggested by Ponting or the bank balance, which I believe is fast becoming the reality and hence the focus on the lucrative T20. Regardless Aus has a problem and surely we cannot all go down the "T20 is to blame" story. India already has done that and at it never really went anywhere. Firstly Eng are a terrific team, and it's being suggested it's one of it's all time great sides while Aus in a rebuilding phase. The issue I reckon and hope is not a talent but a mental issue. Aus have had too many off field fiasco's in recent times including appointing a new coach days before the first test. The Watto role is uncertain and they made some strange selections choices. Strangely all these things only happen when you are down and Aus just needs to ride this out and regroup but the current Ashes are going to be a disaster.

  • on July 25, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    Agree totally with R Ponting comments.. Timing of BBL announcements not a good look at all. It amazes me Ricky Ponting, Australian test cricket legend, is able to make good constructive comments as a new TV commentator, yet in NZ, if past internationals make constructive comments they are fired.. E.g. M Crowe, S Wilson or M Mexted for starters.. On ya Ricky..

  • Greatest_Game on July 24, 2013, 17:23 GMT

    @ couchcoach asked "Why all the ipl bashing?" Of 50 posts I see here, 2 referenced the IPL. & both only in passing. EXAMPLE - Brutalanylist wrote: "Ricky should know after the IPL and Surrey ..." That is NOT IPL bashing.

    There is no IPL bashing here. The discussion is about the effect of the BBL on ALL Aus' cricketers, of whom only a handful play IPL.

    You are confusing 20/20 and the IPL. THE IPL IS NOT 20/20. The IPL is only one of many franchise competitions. If posters bash the 20/20 they are not bashing the IPL. The IPL is not the center of the cricketing universe, or of 20 over cricket. Criticism of the BBL is not criticism of the IPL. The way the BBL is scheduled is very different from the way the IPL is scheduled, & has a negative impact on Aus first class cricket. The IPL does not have the same effect - only 3 or 4 of the Aus test squad regularly play IPL, but almost all play the BBL.

    The bigger question is why do YOU think criticism of 20/20 is criticism of the IPL?

  • Jagger on July 24, 2013, 17:16 GMT

    @ couchcoach - To answer your question the IPL is regarded as a quasi-rebel tour outside of the Sub-continent by those of us who have seen World Series cricket and the South African rebel tours come and go. We have seen the corruption and the contrived results, reminiscent of Hansie Cronje, Bob Woolmer, Qasim Omar, Salman Butt and we hold our breath

    Your comment about losing Test players to IPL - that is sub-continent spin, and not reality. Making people feel worried about their future is a political argument, a campaign to drum up support for the IPL. Whether it becomes a problem or benefit for Indian test cricket in particular remains, but it will never be a problem for teams like England or Australia. If Cricket Australia said no more IPL for Australians until retirement or otherwise, it does not mean the death of Test cricket at all. On the contrary, attitudes will come a full circle. Like the Boxing Day Test, The Ashes contested between Australia and England is here to stay.

  • couchcoach on July 24, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    Why all the ipl bashing? IPL is on at a different time to sheffield shield.... And those who say test players aren't allowed to play T20, I say we will lose good potential test players with that scenario! You must remember these guys are professionals and cricket is their career, so why shouldnt they make more money by playing IPL?... which one of us would knock back a pay rise in our profession if it was offered to us? ....who would not want to make 1-5 yrs of salary in 6 weeks?.. there is room for good players to play tests and t20... look at Michael Hussey who has successfully done both.

  • ToneMalone on July 24, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    Good on Ponting for speaking up re the BBL publicity debacle, even if it conflicts with his commercial commitments. The rest of his comments make good sense as well.

    I always thought Clarke had more instinct for captaincy than Ponting, who struck me as wooden in the role. But events over the past few months have made me think twice - and also to consider how much Ricky must have done behind the scenes to hold the Australian team together. I hope a straight-talker like Ponting plays an ongoing role in fixing Australian cricket.

  • Barnesy4444 on July 24, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    I agree 100%. It's obvious CA focus is on t20 and test cricket is suffering for it. BBL should be 3 weeks, central contracts should go to test hopefuls and Sheffield Shield players. No questions.

    Is Hussey going to play a season of SS to show young players a thing or two and raise the profile of SS? Did Warney play SS after retiring? How about Gilchrist? Hayden? No they all neglected SS and went for the big $$$$$$ in the IPL.

    Punter go and be Australia's batting coach please. Now.

  • on July 24, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    Solution to current dilemma .... no Test cricketers are permitted to play 20/20. Simple.

  • 2.14istherunrate on July 24, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    Obviously the Aus Board are just trying to lose the bad news by moving to a hopeful future. The fact is that sizewise another extraneous hit and giggle competition placed against the Ashes is like placing a rowing boat up against a great ocean going liner. Size matters massively.

  • pulkit10 on July 24, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    Bad timing by CA but all of this launch talk was obviously in the pipeline long before the Ashes started. Just so happens that it coincides with a big loss and thus, seems rather distasteful.

    And I love how the pitchforks come out as soon as T20 is mentioned. Look, not going to debate that a good test match beats anything out there but is it really hard to see the appeal that a quick, high energy game like T20 cricket has? Requires a different kind of strategy and definitely not as testing as Test cricket but hardly "the pick of the fools" as most people here put it. It is like calling Table Tennis a stupid sport because "real Tennis" is way more testing - no, they're just different in character. No respect loss for Test cricket and CA has a proper roadmap in place for it.

    CA definitely needs to go down and straighten the basics out by improving the First Class system in the country first and foremost. That's what they'll have to prioritize for now. Sure they'll step out of it though

  • Blakey on July 24, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Well said Ricky! I agree that there is not that much between the teams in ability. It is the confidence and the presence and the timing that is missing, oh and that frustration who wants to open the batting but keeps tripping over his ego.

  • on July 24, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Ponting is correct, Ca is full of self opinionated people protecting their jobs and bowing to corporate gambling. Get these players(current test failures) to sit and watch videos of their failures repeat ably and then show them how the poms batted in the same conditions...hello what would they learn..guess that it would be they were inadequate... Duh!

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 24, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    I believe in psychology this is called 'deflection': Aus. are simply deflecting their major crisis that is test cricket, and hyping up something else instead that seems to be something of a more pleasing focal point. What else can they do but? The talent is wafer thin and the cupboards aren't just empty - they've fallen apart by woodworm...

  • Jagger on July 24, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    A Sun and Sea - no, YOU are wrong. The Ashes Urn is older. Your point has nothing to do with what I said. There will always be Test match based Ashes cricket between Australia and England. And that's all that matters.

  • CapitalMarkets on July 24, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    I think that T20 is a great night out but the problem with it is that wickets don't matter. A batsman can generally last for twelve deliveries, which is all that is required. Good bowling becomes simply the art of not being easy to get murdered; it is nothing to do with getting wickets any more.

  • reddawn1975 on July 24, 2013, 10:18 GMT

    I THINK T 20 IS BORING AND WAY TO SHORT A MUG COULD PLAY ..................Get back to real cricket test Matches and 50 overs where players require actual skills and make the decks there playing on good old Aussie pitches plenty of bounce and movement C'Mon CA Switch on

  • heathrf1974 on July 24, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    It looks like CA are in a form of denial. Sutherland needs to go. He's the next one on the list.

  • on July 24, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    CA should create a new ACT shield team to create a greater depth of first class players that can hopefully play in all three formats of the game.

  • Mervo on July 24, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    @salazar555 is right. It is truly amazing that CA did this. It is all about the money and the gambling in T20. For most real cricket followers it is a non-event. We like to see cricket where all the bowlers skills are in play and innings are constructed with intelligence and determination. Not having a 'good eye' and slogging with no consequences. I really never thought that CA would get it so wrong. Test cricket is where the reputations are made, the records held for all time, not yet another T20 match which is meaningless. If it is all about the money then let's pay Test players more. It is the 'big league' after all and not the minor league

  • SunAndSea on July 24, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    @Jagger - you are wrong. The America's Cup is older than the Ashes by a good 30 years. Hidden in Brutal's post is a valid point: cricket will be (and is being) shaped by economics. T20 (of which I am no fan) is the most profitable format and therefore receives the most attention. It's weird that you regard this as evidence of "ulterior motives".

  • Bhrams on July 24, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    Reminds me of the time when the BCCI announced the IPL schedule and other details, moments after India had lost the 2012 Sydney Test - their sixth overseas loss in a row. Quite a coincidence that CA has done the same after Australia's sixth loss in a row.

  • on July 24, 2013, 5:41 GMT

    Spot on Punter, I just wish every commentator round the world could be this honest. It hurts to lose and then it hurts more to see the "strategy"

  • cricket_ahan on July 24, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    CONT: Test cricket is cricket in its purest form, and it's not surprising to see its best current proponents being those who execute well on the foundational elements and skills of the game - Amla, de Villiers, Clarke, Kohli, Bell, Cook, Kallis, Anderson, Steyn .. the list goes on. When you describe any of these players, you use phrases such as "solid defense", "well balanced", "great timing", "good seam position" etc. More practice of these skills, coming from better balancing of all forms of cricket, will go a long way in improving players' Test playing abilities.

  • cricket_ahan on July 24, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    @IPSY: Your claim seems a little strange given run rates and individual strike rates now are higher than they've ever been in Test cricket. This is a clear indication that batsmen are playing more shots and scoring faster, which implies they are taking more risks - look at the likes of Hayden, Gilchrist, Jayasuriya, and in more recent times Sehwag and Dhawan. The problem is more to do with balance and adaptability. Practice makes perfect, and players these days just don't seem to practice the skills required for test matches as much as they used to- where they previously played more first class games in their down time, they are now called to play in some T20 tournament around the world; where they used to bowl for hours at one stump in the nets (Glenn McGrath's Friday nights), they are now spending more time in the gym and 'managing' their bodies; where they used focus on technique, they are now looking for improvisation (switch hits, reverse sweeps, helicopter shots etc.). CONT:

  • fan2011 on July 24, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    @salazar555 you are funny mate.. The top three English batsmen don't play 20/20 cricket. Have you seen these guys strike rates? we are talking about some of the most boring cricketers around world cricket right now..

    i believe the reason England win their games so well and often is because of their batting they bat for soo long and slow that they put the opposition team to sleep,and then volla they have won the game..

    stop blaming the umpires for making a howler they too would fall a sleep when batsmen score 1 run in every 36 deliveries..

  • Jagger on July 24, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    @ BRUTALANALYST - The Ashes is the oldest sporting trophy in the world. No other sport can take that mantle, it will always be synonymous with cricket. No matter what anyone says, there will always be Test matches between Australia and England known as The Ashes. It is set in bedrock. If the other countries don't want to play Test cricket I would not lose any sleep over it, but it's up to them. You should be clear that The Ashes is safe for the long term and that's all that matters. What you do or say is up to you, but your comment suggests ulterior motives which are not strongly felt outside the sub-continent.

  • Iddo555 on July 24, 2013, 3:48 GMT

    You need a desire to get back to the top, England had it but I'm not sure CA have it. Like most things it's all about money. 20/20 games are quick, they get full houses and they make lots of money for the venues in a short period of time

    Test cricket in England is far bigger and far more respected than one day cricket. Yes 20/20 games get crowds but everyone understands it is just a bit of fun, a few hours entertainment consisting of people trying to smack the ball out of the ground.

    If players can make big sums for smacking the ball out the ground then that's what they will do, far easy to smash a few shots or bowl 4 overs than it is to play test cricket.

    If you want test cricket you have to pay big money to your test players, that's what England do, the players don't need to play 20/20 because they make lots of money out of their contract with England, the top 3 in the batting order don't play in any 20/20 comps outside of England, in fact I don't think they play 20/20 full stop.

  • on July 24, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    Completely agree with Ponting about the batting positions. In fact, I can't remember Ricky being so sharp with his public comments before.

    Note, this is also the first time anyone from the inner sanctum has publicly acknowledged the Simon Katich talk.

  • spindizzy on July 24, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    Correct on CAs bizarre behaviour, not much else though. Ponting was a great batsman but a useless captain. Just lucky to be in charge of one of the strongest sides ever in history. All the tactical nous of a hedgehog though...

    How many they would have won with Gilchrist or Warne as captain is probably scary.

  • Insult_2_Injury on July 24, 2013, 3:12 GMT

    The Fakebook mentions Bosisto as an in. It doesn't matter which young bloke comes in, they won't instantly have Test experience and that is what will (eventually) contribute to a winning team. Warner, Agar, Cummins, Khuwaja, Pattinson, Bird have all shown Test credentials, but only being settled into a role and left there for a dozen Tests will enable them to gain experience in all situations and then form the nucleus of the Test side up to and past 2020. The year, not the bank balance filler. The hysteria over Warner's behaviour is no different than when Ponting got into a scuffle in a Sydney Pub when he was the same age. The reaction has been ludicrous, but fits the CA nanny brigades MO to a tee. Get Warner back in and make him accountable for what's happening ON the field, not a scapegoat for CA dumping the clipboard carrier - Arthur. CA - show some direction; settle the side, take your loses, learn from them and then we might see some light at the end of the tunnel.

  • rajpan on July 24, 2013, 3:11 GMT

    Poor Ponting !! Doesn't he know how the world goes? Nobody wants to share a defeat and everybody wants to be the part of a win. As simple as that. Australians were more interested in test cricket because their team was consistently winning. Who wants to worry about a looser? People will find another winner and move on. Same in India, England, Windies, SAF and so on.

  • Chris_P on July 24, 2013, 1:38 GMT

    @Leggie, "Ponting has one of the worst batting records in England"? With an average of 44.10, that in your books is one of the worst? Let me add, your post suggests your cricket knowledge is one of the worst about, & there is proof! Ponting, fyi, didn't bag T20, all he suggested was the timing of the announcement was not right. A better review of articles may, in future, give you some credibility in future posts, but then again, perhaps not.

  • Mr_Truth on July 24, 2013, 1:15 GMT

    T20 looks like it is here to stay. Deal with it. Everyone plays it so it is a level playing field. If Test skiills are eroded by the shorter format, the same applies to everyone - the problem is with the administration of the various formats, not with the players. As to expecting players to turn up their noses at $, why should they? Who doesn't accept a pay-rise if it is offered, especially if the work requirement is reduced? If Test cricket was rated by they various boards, they would pay the players accordingly. And I really find the misuse of 'Entertainment' offensive. What is Test cricket if it is not entertainment? Boring? Get real! If Tests weren't entertaining no-one would follow them.

  • David_Bofinger on July 24, 2013, 0:48 GMT

    Ponting thinks Clarke must go from 5 to 4 for the sake of Hughes, who plays better at 6. But it's not obvious Hughes had to move just because Clarke did. More importantly, Clarke performs much better at 5 than at 4. This is a tail wagging a dog, and it's not even clear it's the dog the tail is attached to.

  • arif_cric on July 24, 2013, 0:36 GMT

    i agree with the comment of the fakebook give chance to w bosisto he is the future of australian cricket in all format... and call g.bailey to england he is a better player than others who touring eng. bailey has the temparment to play in critical situations and when team needs it most....

  • Yuji9 on July 24, 2013, 0:34 GMT

    @Leggie - do you actually know what you're talking about? Ponting averaged 44.10 in England with four centuries - compare that to some other famous batsmen who have struggled in England - seriously you don't understand the issues if you have a problem with retired players making money out of easy T20 cricket. That's not Ponting's concern, and what he does in retirement is not a concern of fans of the current Test team - the problem is when young potential Test stars are drawn out of the real game and forced to play this nonsense T20 drivel. @Behind-the-bowlers-arm - well said good parallel - consider the pitches in the Caribbean and how fast they once were and remember when the Windies had an endless supply of pace bolwers? Now they are dead flat wickets and all top Windies first class bowlers are part time spinners! They haven't produced a real batsman since Lara. I wonder if CA and the WICB are run by same people? Does anyone in CA even like or understand Test cricket? I doubt it

  • 2MikeGattings on July 23, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    Not exactly an endorsement of Clarke's captaincy, considering batting order is the one selectorial decision under his control.

    Then again, perhaps it is no more significant than the permutation of deckchairs on the Titanic. I don't think it matters where in the order Hughes bats, he will generally get out sooner rather than later. He got lucky one time when England fed him singles to get at Agar. That's not going to happen again.

  • on July 23, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    @wellrounded87 harris is our best bowler when fit but he will get injured after playing 2 test matches. I agree with u about that none of the batsmen have been pushing for selection but we desperately need to replace cowan, hughes, Watson, rogers if they keep on failing for the next three test matches. doolan and s.marsh have better technique than cowan and hughes.

  • on July 23, 2013, 22:00 GMT

    Ponting laments that Clarke is placing himself in the order too low and should ideally go up a notch or two once again. But Ponting makes the grave mistake of suggesting something totally against what Sir Michael Clarke wants to do. And that there is the whole problem with this side; its not about the side and what it needs, its about what MICHAEL CLARKE needs.

  • wellrounded87 on July 23, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    @John Verdal. First off Harris is our best bowler when fit. There is absolutely no need to drop him what a ridiculous statement. Second what your suggesting will solve nothing. You need experience in a side, a young side will do even worse than our current crop. And all the guys you have listed haven't done much to beat down the selection door except Sayers. But our bowlers aren't the problem (well spinners maybe). Also Fawad Ahmed is 31

  • Leggie on July 23, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    Sadly Ricky Ponting has one of the worst Ashes records - especially playing IN England. So, too bad, this comments will not be taken seriously. And apart from this, I have only one grouse against former players comenting anything Ill of T20 cricket or it's popularity, these are the same cricketers who ended up patronising them in the first place. I'm extremely upset that the likes of Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, Sachin and now Ponting have all enjoyed the benefits of t20 despite being fully aware of theills that it brings in. At some stage had they said that this was only pure "entertainment" and nothing to do with cricket, we would have had a) more crowd who seek only entertainment would have turned up...b) the purists would have focused on Test cricket.

  • jgathergood on July 23, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    When England performed terribly in test cricket during the 1990s there was never any doubt that the ECB wanted an English recovery and return to the status of a leading test cricket nation. What is worrying from CA is that there doesn't seem to be that same desire to return to the fore of test cricket by investing in the domestic competition which best prepares home players for it (SS) - instead the modern temptation of T20 and its commercial potential appears too tempting. Sri Lanka are obsessed with short format cricket and there is much commercial pressure in India to go the same way with the national team. If Australia succumb to the same temptations it will be a massive blow for test cricket.

  • on July 23, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    great comments by a great player. Test over T20 anytime. Aus just lost a match CA should of waited few days before promoting BBL.

  • Thefakebook on July 23, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    I have a completely new name who fits the mold of test cricket he is young and takes his time at crease even in limited overs.Yes I'm talking about Will Bosisto the former OZ u-19 skipper he is the future!

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 23, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    "flabbergasted" ? Cricket is all about T20 right now Ricky should know after the IPL and Surrey he is now off to the Caribbean to play some more of it. Unfortunately Test cricket is on life support everywhere outside of England.

  • Aussasinator on July 23, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    Ponting started the rout with 3 Ashes defeats after having very strong teams at his disposal compared to this team. So his advice or comments should be ignored. Look to Shane Warne for advice. The winner attitude will help there.

  • Dr_Zeus on July 23, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    I remember my granny used to say..."What goes up MUST come down"...same thing happened to West Indies, and its happening to Australia now...I don't see any end in sight for what is happening now....it began under Ponting and is now picking up speed....RIP Australia....

  • on July 23, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    Australia should dump old guys and underperforming players like cowan, hughes, rogers, smith, haddin, Watson, starc and harris. we have plenty of talent in Australia. the selection needs to be better. I expect the likes of doolan, silk, maddinson, warner, burns, cummins, sayers, zampa, fawad ahmed, sandhu, agar, s.marsh, m.marsh, paine to push for selection.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on July 23, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    CA's announcement and the article about it on cricinfo I thought at first was a joke and laughed. Then I realised it wasn't and stopped laughing. They really don't get it do they? I have been saying that Australia will bounce back at some point in Test cricket and dismissing any parallels with the West Indies. I am not so sure now. Have the Big Bash but the Sheffield Shield must be number 1 on the list of priorities. It clearly isn't at CA headquarters and that is killing us.

  • on July 23, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    Well said RTP ............

  • on July 23, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    Ponting is right. CA's announcement was weird to say the least. After such a humiliating defeat, to come out and crow about the BBL would make anyone sick in the tummy. I mean, they could have at least waited for a few more days. It is clear now that CA's priorities are elsewhere and that they don't care any more for test cricket. Sad to see 1 of the 2 oldest test playing nations overlook losses in an Ashes series with such vigour and blatant ignorance. God help Australian cricket.

  • on July 23, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    Ponting is right. CA's announcement was weird to say the least. After such a humiliating defeat, to come out and crow about the BBL would make anyone sick in the tummy. I mean, they could have at least waited for a few more days. It is clear now that CA's priorities are elsewhere and that they don't care any more for test cricket. Sad to see 1 of the 2 oldest test playing nations overlook losses in an Ashes series with such vigour and blatant ignorance. God help Australian cricket.

  • on July 23, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    Well said RTP ............

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on July 23, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    CA's announcement and the article about it on cricinfo I thought at first was a joke and laughed. Then I realised it wasn't and stopped laughing. They really don't get it do they? I have been saying that Australia will bounce back at some point in Test cricket and dismissing any parallels with the West Indies. I am not so sure now. Have the Big Bash but the Sheffield Shield must be number 1 on the list of priorities. It clearly isn't at CA headquarters and that is killing us.

  • on July 23, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    Australia should dump old guys and underperforming players like cowan, hughes, rogers, smith, haddin, Watson, starc and harris. we have plenty of talent in Australia. the selection needs to be better. I expect the likes of doolan, silk, maddinson, warner, burns, cummins, sayers, zampa, fawad ahmed, sandhu, agar, s.marsh, m.marsh, paine to push for selection.

  • Dr_Zeus on July 23, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    I remember my granny used to say..."What goes up MUST come down"...same thing happened to West Indies, and its happening to Australia now...I don't see any end in sight for what is happening now....it began under Ponting and is now picking up speed....RIP Australia....

  • Aussasinator on July 23, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    Ponting started the rout with 3 Ashes defeats after having very strong teams at his disposal compared to this team. So his advice or comments should be ignored. Look to Shane Warne for advice. The winner attitude will help there.

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 23, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    "flabbergasted" ? Cricket is all about T20 right now Ricky should know after the IPL and Surrey he is now off to the Caribbean to play some more of it. Unfortunately Test cricket is on life support everywhere outside of England.

  • Thefakebook on July 23, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    I have a completely new name who fits the mold of test cricket he is young and takes his time at crease even in limited overs.Yes I'm talking about Will Bosisto the former OZ u-19 skipper he is the future!

  • on July 23, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    great comments by a great player. Test over T20 anytime. Aus just lost a match CA should of waited few days before promoting BBL.

  • jgathergood on July 23, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    When England performed terribly in test cricket during the 1990s there was never any doubt that the ECB wanted an English recovery and return to the status of a leading test cricket nation. What is worrying from CA is that there doesn't seem to be that same desire to return to the fore of test cricket by investing in the domestic competition which best prepares home players for it (SS) - instead the modern temptation of T20 and its commercial potential appears too tempting. Sri Lanka are obsessed with short format cricket and there is much commercial pressure in India to go the same way with the national team. If Australia succumb to the same temptations it will be a massive blow for test cricket.