West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 3rd day April 25, 2012

Cowan and Ponting steer Australia to 300-plus lead

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Australia 328 and 200 for 6 (Ponting 57, Cowan 55) lead West Indies 218 (Chanderpaul 68, Lyon 4-69) by 310 runs
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West Indies will need to complete their highest successful chase since they rewrote the record books in Antigua nine years ago if they are to level the series against Australia. Ed Cowan and Ricky Ponting both scored half-centuries on the third day in Dominica as the Australians built a lead of 310 runs at stumps, and with four wickets still in hand there was no immediate end in sight for the Australian second innings.

Viewed in isolation, it wasn't a bad day for West Indies: their final two pairs frustrated Australia for an hour and a half in the morning and their bowlers picked up wickets early in the Australian innings and then gained some momentum late in the day. But the hosts were left to rue their miserable second day, when Matthew Wade's century gave Australia control of the match, and at stumps on day three Australia had moved on to 200 for 6 with Michael Hussey on 17 and Ryan Harris on 4.

Not since their world-record chase of 418 against Steve Waugh's Australian side in 2003 have West Indies chased down this big a target to win a Test. On that occasion, centuries to Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan set up the West Indian triumph, and the way their batting has spluttered in this series they will need something similarly special from Chanderpaul this time around.

First, they must get through the rest of the Australian batting line-up. The innings started promisingly for West Indies, whose dismissal half an hour before lunch gave Australia an awkward four-over patch to face before the break. David Warner didn't make it to safety, caught at slip off Kemar Roach for 11, and when Shane Watson was taken at leg slip for 5 off Shane Shillingford's bowling shortly after the resumption Australia were in trouble.

But Cowan and Ponting, two men who had endured a lean series, came together in a calm and controlled 87-run partnership that halted the West Indian momentum. Cowan was a little more attacking than he has been so far on the tour, but was still in no great hurry, and Ponting survived a couple of nervous moments to work his way into the innings.

Ponting was lucky not to be run out shortly before tea when Cowan called him for a single and then turned him back, and had the fielder at mid-on thrown down the stumps Ponting was gone. He also gave a tough chance on 27 when he pushed a Narsingh Deonarine offbreak past Adrian Barath at short leg, and although it was difficult it was the kind of opportunity West Indies needed to take.

Cowan's half-century, his first since the Perth Test against India, arrived from his 107th delivery with a cut for four off Deonarine, but on 55 he fell trying another cut against the same bowler when Darren Sammy at slip showed magnificent reflexes to snare a tough catch. Ponting fell for 57 in unusual circumstances - he ducked a Kemar Roach bouncer but left his bat up and unwittingly lobbed a catch to slip.

That was the start of an encouraging period for West Indies as they also removed Michael Clarke, who top-edged Shane Shillingford and was caught at short leg for 25. And an important boost for the hosts came just before stumps when Deonarine had Wade lbw for 4, and despite the umpire's decision being upheld on review - the ball struck the batsman's foot on the full and was going on to clip leg stump - Wade appeared livid with the decision as he walked off the field.

The wickets meant West Indies finished the day on a positive, and they had started that way as well. The final two West Indies pairs survived for an hour and a half and Shivnarine Chanderpaul didn't alter his batting style despite having to work with the tail-enders, striking only three boundaries in his 68 from 164 balls.

He was the last man out, lbw to a straight ball from Mitchell Starc, who finished with 2 for 29, and Australia had finally ended a 32-run partnership between Chanderpaul and Roach (9 not out). West Indies added 53 to their overnight total for the loss of their last two wickets as the Australians struggled to find a way to terminate the innings.

Ravi Rampaul fell after 21 runs had been added in the morning, when he advanced to Nathan Lyon and tried to clear midwicket but succeeded only in lobbing a catch to point off a leading edge. Lyon ended up with 4 for 69 and moved into position as Australia's leading wicket taker of the series so far.

And on a pitch offering more turn than most people expected at the start of the game, Lyon will also be an important man in the fourth innings. How many runs he will have to defend remains to be seen.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | April 26, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    Punter always plays when his team needs him - unlike the so-called GOD of cricket

  • POSTED BY Doconcall on | April 26, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    I dont see how WI can bounce back from here on. 310 is enough for Australia to win, but it is going to be more, since Australia's main batsman are yet to come. LOL I will blame the management and selection committee for the failure. All your front line players are playing for IPL. The board just cannot hold them together. It is a shame for a country who produced legends and were kings for more than 3 decades. The retired players should replace the existing board.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | April 26, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    It will a tough ask for Windies given they only have 1 test batsman and five trainee batsmen of questionable quality, along with a captain who plays test cricket like it is 20/20.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | April 26, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    lets see. I don't know how or why people are commending Sammy and Gibson for the improvements in the West Indies Team?

    what improvements?

    drop Chanderpaul and we would have lost 3-0 and not a single game (except for the rain in Trinidad) would have made it to 3 days ....

    AND WAIT .....

    Gibson and Sammy don't want Chadnerpaul on the team ....

    so it goes to show that if Sammy and Gibson got what they wanted, eg... Mautharin along with the other additions of Powell and Brathwaite ....

    Sammy and Gibson's Changes have contributed SO much to the fighting spirit of the team?

    I think not ...

    it is obvious to me, that had Sammy and Gibson got their way we would have lost 3-0 ,,, and the changes that they have made have actually prevented the WI from actually beating Australia ...

    in the ODI's ... Mauthurin, Powell, Brathwaite ... are the reasons we lost ..... had chanderpaul been playing I'm sure we would have won the ODI series ....

  • POSTED BY lyl67 on | April 26, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    I believe that West Indies is not better placed in this match and has lost the test series because the Captain has no idea, bad field placing, tactics non-existence. Please justify why DEONARIEN bowled a total of four overs in the first innings of this test. Admit it our captain has no idea he does things by the book and I wonder if his decision are prompted by the manger during the intervals. Oh, I forgot the constant referral, when even I am sitting here in my living room in Germany can see that the ball is missing the stumps. We have played a w/k who cannot, his wicket-keeping was very good in one test match in the other matches he has not come up to standard, but some how he has kept his place in the side.

  • POSTED BY postandrail on | April 26, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    jmcilhinney I assume the recent success you are talking of was England (aka United Nations) vs Pakistan. Or perhaps it was Sri Lanka. But seriously though, in your opinion are they just having a crack at the record for the team spending the shortest time ranked #1?

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    Judging from WI recent 4th inns score, I'd say Australia already have 160 runs too many.

  • POSTED BY TheLight on | April 26, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    If Sammy is being picked as a bowler, why has bowled the least amount of overs in the swords so far and only 6 in this innings? I keep saying that he hides himself when the going gets tough

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | April 26, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Maybe fear is too strong a word..harking back to the Australia's glory days when we feared nearly every one of their players...drawing conclusions from this series I cannot see any material improvement from the Aussies...the next Ashes is is England...Eng will have the same team (roughly) and Oz will have a less experienced team than 2009 or 2010-11. And SA have some of the best players in the World, you'd be foolish not to fear their abilities...they now have a coach that has had success with India (few foreign coaches have)...they don't play enough...that's their problem...they were cold when Aus played them last..and they'll be cold when they line up against Eng (will this be an issue? Who can say but it doesn't help)...then they go straight to Aus...should be brill..

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | April 26, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    I believe in giving credit where it is due. At the moment I don't believe in hyping Australia up just because they are beating a windies team that has been trying to re-build (unsuccessfully) since the days of Mervyn Dillon.. I think that the batting has been brittle, partnerships stunted, fielding has been generally inferior, and the bowling has been helped by the general ineptitude (Chanderpaul excluded) of the windies batting especially the openers. I mean they are even making Lyon look good! I like the aggressive captaincy from Clarke, something we didn't see from Ponting. But just wait until we hit some decent bowlers (i.e. SA & Eng) and watch those Aussie wickets tumble.. PS I am Australian actually, born and raised here and haven't lived anywhere else. I even have an ancestor who sailed to Australia on the first fleet.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | April 26, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    Punter always plays when his team needs him - unlike the so-called GOD of cricket

  • POSTED BY Doconcall on | April 26, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    I dont see how WI can bounce back from here on. 310 is enough for Australia to win, but it is going to be more, since Australia's main batsman are yet to come. LOL I will blame the management and selection committee for the failure. All your front line players are playing for IPL. The board just cannot hold them together. It is a shame for a country who produced legends and were kings for more than 3 decades. The retired players should replace the existing board.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | April 26, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    It will a tough ask for Windies given they only have 1 test batsman and five trainee batsmen of questionable quality, along with a captain who plays test cricket like it is 20/20.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | April 26, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    lets see. I don't know how or why people are commending Sammy and Gibson for the improvements in the West Indies Team?

    what improvements?

    drop Chanderpaul and we would have lost 3-0 and not a single game (except for the rain in Trinidad) would have made it to 3 days ....

    AND WAIT .....

    Gibson and Sammy don't want Chadnerpaul on the team ....

    so it goes to show that if Sammy and Gibson got what they wanted, eg... Mautharin along with the other additions of Powell and Brathwaite ....

    Sammy and Gibson's Changes have contributed SO much to the fighting spirit of the team?

    I think not ...

    it is obvious to me, that had Sammy and Gibson got their way we would have lost 3-0 ,,, and the changes that they have made have actually prevented the WI from actually beating Australia ...

    in the ODI's ... Mauthurin, Powell, Brathwaite ... are the reasons we lost ..... had chanderpaul been playing I'm sure we would have won the ODI series ....

  • POSTED BY lyl67 on | April 26, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    I believe that West Indies is not better placed in this match and has lost the test series because the Captain has no idea, bad field placing, tactics non-existence. Please justify why DEONARIEN bowled a total of four overs in the first innings of this test. Admit it our captain has no idea he does things by the book and I wonder if his decision are prompted by the manger during the intervals. Oh, I forgot the constant referral, when even I am sitting here in my living room in Germany can see that the ball is missing the stumps. We have played a w/k who cannot, his wicket-keeping was very good in one test match in the other matches he has not come up to standard, but some how he has kept his place in the side.

  • POSTED BY postandrail on | April 26, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    jmcilhinney I assume the recent success you are talking of was England (aka United Nations) vs Pakistan. Or perhaps it was Sri Lanka. But seriously though, in your opinion are they just having a crack at the record for the team spending the shortest time ranked #1?

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    Judging from WI recent 4th inns score, I'd say Australia already have 160 runs too many.

  • POSTED BY TheLight on | April 26, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    If Sammy is being picked as a bowler, why has bowled the least amount of overs in the swords so far and only 6 in this innings? I keep saying that he hides himself when the going gets tough

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | April 26, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Maybe fear is too strong a word..harking back to the Australia's glory days when we feared nearly every one of their players...drawing conclusions from this series I cannot see any material improvement from the Aussies...the next Ashes is is England...Eng will have the same team (roughly) and Oz will have a less experienced team than 2009 or 2010-11. And SA have some of the best players in the World, you'd be foolish not to fear their abilities...they now have a coach that has had success with India (few foreign coaches have)...they don't play enough...that's their problem...they were cold when Aus played them last..and they'll be cold when they line up against Eng (will this be an issue? Who can say but it doesn't help)...then they go straight to Aus...should be brill..

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | April 26, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    I believe in giving credit where it is due. At the moment I don't believe in hyping Australia up just because they are beating a windies team that has been trying to re-build (unsuccessfully) since the days of Mervyn Dillon.. I think that the batting has been brittle, partnerships stunted, fielding has been generally inferior, and the bowling has been helped by the general ineptitude (Chanderpaul excluded) of the windies batting especially the openers. I mean they are even making Lyon look good! I like the aggressive captaincy from Clarke, something we didn't see from Ponting. But just wait until we hit some decent bowlers (i.e. SA & Eng) and watch those Aussie wickets tumble.. PS I am Australian actually, born and raised here and haven't lived anywhere else. I even have an ancestor who sailed to Australia on the first fleet.

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | April 26, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    @5Wombats are you an Othello fan by any chance? Punter is in fine nick and has big scores left as he showed so recently in Sydney where he outshone his Indian peers in batting greatness. A little more respect warranted for the second highest run scorer in history who just nudged up an important 50 on a challenging track!

  • POSTED BY Yevghenny on | April 26, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    Can't wait to see this top 3 in England!

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | April 26, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    @MrBrightside if you'd seen any of Aus v SA a few months back you'd be aware Aust have nothing to fear about SA, SA were squarely matched and mostly bettered on their home pitches. There's no fleet of Rolls Royces in the shed these days but Aust can tangle with any team without fear. No team can just turn up against Aus, certainly not Eng. Look forward to Eng v SA, folks with big opinions will have plenty to fear! Aussie resurgence will be steady but sure, big thanks to MJ's toe & Punter having the humility to handover (C) & play on until a worthy replacement emerges.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | April 26, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    @gloriouscricket on (April 26 2012, 05:30 AM GMT) WI are already 310 runs behind. Even if Aus scored no more runs would you seriously back WI to chase any post 300 total down in the 4th inns vs Aus?

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | April 26, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    @valleypf, maybe you could sit down and have a chat with RandyOZ. He's never had a sensible word to say about England. Despite their #1 status the team and everyone in it is lucky, overrated, a hack, etc, etc. England are by no means perfect but you'd think that to have had the recent success they have that they'd have to have done something right. If you think that there are a lot of England fans bagging Australia, thank RandyOZ and, to a slightly lesser degree, jonesy2.

  • POSTED BY anver777 on | April 26, 2012, 10:15 GMT

    A huge task is ahead for WI........ another 2 days remaining Aus will surely look for 350 target which i think WI will struggle to chase !!!!!! unless rain spoils Aus win !!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | April 26, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    Isn't it about time Ponting did a Holt? Has Australia really got no-one good enough replace him? It's incredible that he is still there. They should name a swimming pool after him.

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | April 26, 2012, 9:39 GMT

    @Othello, you forgot to mention that if Dwayne Bravo and Chris Gayle were playing WI would have won. Also that the Aussies are just lucky. Lucky when they bat, lucky when they bowl. Oh, of course, that it's all Sammy and Gibsons fault....and that Australia is just lucky. Take these out of the equation and WI would sweep the series. Did you mention also that England are no1?

  • POSTED BY crow_eater on | April 26, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @ othello22 oh man, have you ever thought of becoming a big game fisherman? Judging by the amount of bites you can get you'd clean up!

  • POSTED BY popcorn on | April 26, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    Ed Cowan and David Warner MUST seek out Justin Langer and get rid of the "caught Guptill bowled Martin" sickness that caused Phil Hughes exit fron the Australian Test Side. They have been found out,and when it comes to South Africa,their tendency to DRIVE off the front foot and get an edge to slips will happen with regularity. We need Openers who can build a solid foundation. Only Shane Watson and Usman Khawaja do not have this failing.

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | April 26, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    D'oh!...got that wrong...soon as I wrote it I thought...did Bopara get 3 centures in WI? Only one in WI..and two in England...3 in 3 consecutive games..there were a lot of runs scored...some by Owais Shah??!! Embarrassing for me....general point still stands...and there I was, sounding so reasoned and articulate...glad it's not the final day and my comment will be removed....will check my facts next time...

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | April 26, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    To draw any conclusions from the series the pitches need to be discussed...pitches that are not condusive to quick scoring and don't punish bowlers for mediocre containing bowling will in general produce close games even if WI are 8th ranked. Both teams have issues in regard to what their best team is, either through absentees, injuries or lack of quality coming through. It's fine for RandyOz to mention the '51'...but Bopara got 3 centuries alone in that 4 match series...how many have the Oz team got in total? Sammy has to define his place in the team, he is not a 4th bowler of test class..he needs to be at 6 and be 5th bowler. Credit to Clarke and the Aussie team since the Ashes loss..they are fighting their way back to the top table...but there is nothing to fear here for SA/Eng (combined or separate)...

  • POSTED BY taipanic on | April 26, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    @ othello22: Thanks for your excellent sense of humour. 2-0 is really a win for the West Indies - I admit to a chuckle, that was a nice opening line, bettered only by Australia should have won 4-0. Now that would have been *really* impressive considering it is a 3-match series! I was just as amused by England's awesome form in the subcontinent (that would be 1-1 v Sri Lanka and 0-3 v Pakistan, the latter admittedly in UAE), as well as India's awesome recent test form (0-4 v Australia). Superb entertainment! You were joking, right?

  • POSTED BY postandrail on | April 26, 2012, 7:41 GMT

    othello22 Your satire will go right over most people's heads I think. Let's see how many were sucked in. Perhaps because Australia has, by a considerable margin, been the most successful Team in the game's history, others can only feel resentment and envy so any opportunity to bag Australia is grabbed with both hands. The "If you can't match them, bag them" syndrome common to losers.

  • POSTED BY zdrgn on | April 26, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    @othello22, hey guy do u watch the 1st test test that australia won under darkness. do u know that 2nd test is marred by rain? last time england traveled they were beaten by west indies. do u want to know how india performed last time? they played negatively to earn draw. australians always fight and try to win. their so called old batsmen bat in harder tough condition well than flat subcontinental pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    West Indian performed really well considering their first choice Players Gayle ,Sarwan,Bravo ,Pollard,Samuels,Naraine are out of action for IPL reasons they stil been able to put up a fight against high quality between the two the Australian team.Their sudden batting collapses and fail to knock out the tail pretty quickly made the difference, If we remove that they edged over Australia in major part of the series

  • POSTED BY Dav1daKing on | April 26, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    @Nerk... U CAN'T "simply outclass" a team "not by much"!!!! it's 1 or the other. and i have a question, isn't Gayle ineligible to play t2oi's for West Indies? i can quite surely remember the W.I. selectors and board stating "only players that were involved in the specific format during their country's domestic season is eligible for call up to the west indies in that format!!! am i right or wrong?

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    @othello22- have to say many of your comments seem out of this world.to start with statement about 2-0 win which has already been pointed out.But could not help noticing horrendous comments like "if Australia were any good they would have beaten them 4-0" how can any side win a 3 match series 4-0?;"A top ranked side like England or India would have won 4-0"India a TOP team?are you serious.agreed i have edited the term "rank" but as of now India's bowling is as strong as Bang/Zim and batting awaiting retirement.everyone including Indians like us acknowledge that.and when they wre No:1 they escaped with a 1-0 win here thnx to the last match winning knock by Laxman.Now about the statement "India's awesome recent test form" 0-4 to England and 0-4 to Aus, 6 of them by MASSIVE defeats which even Indian spectators boycotted in the end...Regarding a few Aus batsmen being "too old/slow/annoying" how about Messrs Strauss/Cook/Trott? if pun was intended u shouldve mentioned it.!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    @othello22 since when was 2-0 a scoreline that reflected an even series? Although the West Indies have played well at times too many times they have collapsed which is why Australia will win 2-0. Since Australia won 2-0 last time they versed West Indies in West Indies Australia aren't taking a backward step. Be patient and wait it's not like Australia became a powerhouse overnight. Win-Loss-Draw record since the 2010-11 Ashes W8 L2 D3.

  • POSTED BY gagagaga on | April 26, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    @ mikey76 Fair to say. spot the POM from the English players. Andrew John Strauss. Born March 2, 1977, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa Ian Jonathan Leonard Trott. Born April 22, 1981, Cape Town, Cape Province Kevin Peter Pietersen. Born June 27, 1980, Pietermaritzburg, Natal Eoin Joseph Gerard Morgan. Born September 10, 1986, Dublin Craig Kieswetter. Born November 28, 1987, Johannesburg, Transvaal Jade Winston Dernbach. Born April 3, 1986, Johannesburg, South Africa Matthew James Prior. Born February 26, 1982, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa Stuart Christopher Meaker. Born January 21, 1989, Pietermaritzburg, Natal, South Africa

    THATS RIGHT. THIS IS THE ENGLISH PLAYERS ON THEIR HOME PAGE OUT OF 30 PLAYERS.

  • POSTED BY othello22 on | April 26, 2012, 6:31 GMT

    Australia are pathetic, they are struggling to beak a weak, low ranked team and a 2-0 scoreline quite obviously reflects that the two sides are evenly matched. A 2-0 series victory is more like a win for the West Indies, because if Australia were any good they would have beaten them 4-0. And even if they did, they would still be pathetic, because they can only beat weak, low ranked teams. A top ranked side like England or India would have won 4-0, especially given England's recent triumphs in the subcontinent and India's awesome recent test form. Agree with others here too that it's such a shame that some of Australia's batsmen are actually making runs, because I wanted them to get dropped because they are too old/slow/annoying. I'm sure we can all agree on these points and move on.

  • POSTED BY Rooboy on | April 26, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    Nice to see Punter make some runs but the batting remains less than convincing. @Hammond - why the need to constantly tell us you're an Australian? I don't understand why you think it necessary to make that up, and do you honestly think it fools anyone?

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    no chris gayle no brian lara w i would be very lucky to get a draw

  • POSTED BY warnerbasher on | April 26, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    For an average team Australia wins alot. Alot of our players are new to test cricket as well but they apparently need to be top performers straight away unlike the expecation of other nations. They battle hard and never give in which is all we can ask for. Only 3 players have ever played in the Windies before this tour. Since the Ashes debacle P13 W8 D3 L2 with a 9th victory likely in the next couple of days.Any other nation on earth would kill for a test record like this. Stop comparing the team to the days of the champions of a few years ago and enjoy watching this team rise to Number 1 in the world

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | April 26, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    @dunger.bob ... Last time we will see Chanderpaul, Ponting, Hussey playing against each other - only ODI's before 2015... Sad in some ways, as all have been monuments for their countries - hope this Test finishes with a bang & not a whimper for their sakes... ... @Meety... try getting your facts right, the Saffa's will be playing Oz next in Tests not SL :) ... If Cowan does reasonably well against SA, then he will get a go at SL...

  • POSTED BY redneck on | April 26, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    considering we won the series 2-0 last time, winning 2-0 this time isnt a backwards step. espechally when compared to the other top test sides last tours to the windies. india won 1-0, eng lost 0-1, pak 1-1, sl 1-1 only south africa managed a clean sweep. i think the story to take away from this tour is 1. the west indies are gelling as a team and improving on field preformance and 2. the pitches in the west indies have deteriorated to be amoungst the worst in the world. the kensington oval used to be a fast track what the hell happened there????

  • POSTED BY gloriouscricket on | April 26, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    Not so fast players;We can bowl Aussies out under 300, yes we can.We Must in order to have a victory. Deonarine has shown that he has what it takes to become a genuine allrounder at the highest level;He needs to be retained.Sammy must open with barath & Powell, bring Brathwaite in @ #3,Bravo#4,Chanders[Atlas],Deonarine @ #6,Sammy ahead of Baugh[he is playing with more intent]Baugh,Shillingford,Rampaul,& Roach.Gutsy move?Baugh opens with Barath,Powell, Bravo,Chanders,Deonarine,Brathwaite,Rampaul,Shilly,Roach.Anyways, just searching for a win.Again Barath, Brathwaite,Bravo & powell must come good in order for WINDIES to win.Powell is showing lots of promise, just that fine line--Experience--is missing.Look for Powell & Deonarine to lead the pack tomorrow.Bravo will also show up.Good cricket,Good luck Windies.

  • POSTED BY postandrail on | April 26, 2012, 5:24 GMT

    @mikey76 Pretty straightforward really! Strauss and Prior were also South African born. So that's only 7 of their last TEST 11 were actually English. But if you can't breed 'em, import 'em.

  • POSTED BY Behind_the_bowlers_arm on | April 26, 2012, 5:04 GMT

    Australia should still win but again another feeble stuttering innings where some make 50 and then get out and too many just get out. Far too fragile and a lack of ability to do the right thing here which was to grind to 350 and a target that was well out of sight. The 6 batsmen who make up the top 3 in both sides are the worst combination in the history of Australia v West Indies Tests. With the lack of alternatives for Australia a short term ploy for Australia may be to move Watson to 6 and move Ponting Clarke & Hussey up one place.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | April 26, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    @Chris Sun - "...To see Australia scraping hard against a no.8 side is unusual whilst previous teams would just clean sweep them." Not sure exactly what you mean here, but assuming you are talking about Oz in the WIndies, pls tell me WHEN was the last time Oz clean swept the WIndies in the WIndies? (1955 by my count). IF you are suggesting that other countries clean sweep the WIndies in the WIndies, the ONLY team to EVER do it was Bangladesh in a TWO test series, & its never been done EVER of 3 or more tests!!!!! Winless maybe, clean swept only once & we know why that occurred! @Wozza-CY - agree with your first two sentences. @Marcio - he's apparantly an Ozzy, but some of the terms he uses sounds a bit Pommy to me!

  • POSTED BY pat_one_back on | April 26, 2012, 4:57 GMT

    @Marcio, solid appraisal!, @Jonathan Vidal I hope for your families sake you don't gamble!

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | April 26, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    @Mikey76 - you missed the Irish guy. Or does Irish count as English? :)

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | April 26, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    @Sinhaya, eventhough i agree a few of your words, but Windies isnt going to do much to England in home conditions, as it is early part of Summer and of course English pacemen are far more accurate than the Australian pacebattery, even if Windies manage to loose 2 and drawing 1, that will remain significant achievement, no any spinners can pose threat to england in May as the conditions are never dry until July 15th. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY njn1 on | April 26, 2012, 4:32 GMT

    ok - so i am a WI fan living in the US for many years now and get a bit nostalgic which leads me back to cricinfo to check up on WI cricket BUT jeez how much longer can we endure collapses and defeats. Sure, I see fight in da bowlers and a new attitude in the team but odds are pretty good that our batting will fold like a deck of cards as soon as the Australians are out. optimism for a team can only last for so long when the product, year in and year out, is inferior to the competition. Many such teams in the US would have had a total top down change and through reassessment of the culture around the team. Really folks, tweaking things like Sammy in or out the team is minor - question: what is structurally wrong w/ WI cricket? what happened since the late 80s? is it the lack of money at the basic level? poor management? diversion of the best athletes to other sports? not enough players being groomed in county cricket? it seems like change takes forever and accountability goes begging.

  • POSTED BY mikey76 on | April 26, 2012, 2:51 GMT

    Its not really confusing Randy, well to most people anyway. KP and Trott are South African. The other 9 players are english. Pretty straightforward really.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    2 days to bat windies. u cod do.. certainly need a good start. common bravo im prayin u get a bigg one. knw dat Shiv comin at Aussie again

  • POSTED BY Peterincanada on | April 26, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    @Hammond I hate to agree but you are right. The batting hasn't shown much even if the pitches are not the best. The openers are not reliable and the middle is fragile. I shudder to think of this lineup in the Ashes but I don't know where the replacements will come from.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 2:17 GMT

    If Australia post anything less than 350 WI will still have a pretty good chance of getting those runs. A bit of shifting in the top order should sort the insecurities of WI young batsmen. Switch Brathwaithe to 3 to provide stability. Let Powell and Barath open. The Aussies really aren't that much of a better team than the WI at the moment. It's just that they have senior players for the newer players to bat around unlike the WI who only have Shiv. Even though I'm West Indian fan I'm proud to see such great games from both sides.

  • POSTED BY Rav_2k on | April 26, 2012, 2:17 GMT

    Victory for Australia on day 4.Have a good feeling the WI well be chasing 400+ if Hussey gets his way.Windies should have played Assad Fudadin in this one...can't expect Powell and Brathwaite to make runs at test level if they are not making at first class level.I think they are only bat in the nets.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 2:16 GMT

    I still say this present edition of the Aussie team ain't that hot. A better team than WI would be clinching the series 3-0 in this match. WI have shown improvement but they're still on a learning curve. Barath is still too impulsive to be opening. I'd give him a break to work on that. Braf is simply shell shocked as happens to one who is lining up ducks like they're going out of style. He's only 19 and should come back stronger in the near future if given the axe. I still have hope that Barath & Braf will be our opening pair for years to come. In the meantime, I'd use Fudadin & Kirk Edwards as openers, followed by Powell, Bravo et al. Baugh has underperformed with both bat and gloves in this series. After 20 Tests, he isn't even averaging 20.00. Ramdin the alternative in his 42, has done nothing to wrte home about. I like the Bajan youngster Dowrich for the future once he continues to improve and perform creditably in front of/behind the wickets. If Benn behaves himself, he may be

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | April 26, 2012, 2:12 GMT

    The two Australian batsmen who needed a score made one, so the batting lineup probably won't change for a while yet. Given what's gone before, Australia could probably declare now and win it comfortably but I'm guessing that they will try to bat on for at least one more session. With spin doing plenty of damage so far, I don't see why that should change for the fourth innings. It will take some real steel from WI to get close I think. They'll definitely be looking to clean up the Australian tail quickly but we have seen nothing up to now to suggest that that will happen.

  • POSTED BY DWO1 on | April 26, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    The West Indies need to dig deep and come out fighting if they're to root out the Aussie tail. This will be a welcome victory as well as prep for the English series which soon follows. Good Luck my fellow West Indians !

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    If Aus gives WI less than 400 to score in more than a day and a half, their goose is cooked. Barath, Powell, Bravo and Chandie is all we will really need with maybe a cameo from Sammy

  • POSTED BY PBs09 on | April 26, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    Even if the Windies do go down 2 nothing, it's undoubted progress from previous years. Almost a win in my book. They're on the brink of finding winning ways again and probably just need that mentality that can only come from success.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | April 26, 2012, 0:46 GMT

    There's a cloud to every silver lining, @Hammond. Your comments are consistently pessimistic, even when things are going well. On a pitch where no domestic game produced a 300 total this season, you are still whining when the WI will have to chase down probably 350-400 in the fourth innings. Maybe its time to actually give a little credit where it is due, given the team hasn't lost a test or ODI series out of 11 total series since the Ashes - and won far more than they've lost.

  • POSTED BY Wallaroo on | April 26, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    Congrats to the WI's for at least putting up a fight, Aus are just too strong and a class above.

    Even if Australia get another 40, at lead of 350 it will prove too much for the WI, even with a lead of 310 IMO Aus is safe. Agree with Randy pity that it was Cowan that got a 50 he's just not ready to be in the squad.

    @RandyOZ - you mean there's not 2 South Africa's, thanks for pointing that out mate, cleared things up nicely. Thank you. lol.

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | April 26, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    While Australia will probably win, they have been far from convincing against a side so far down the test table. Australia have work to do to be able to challenge the better teams. I cant decide if WI are starting to recover finally or if Australia are not improving.

  • POSTED BY Sinhaya on | April 26, 2012, 0:22 GMT

    Hope Darren Bravo can make a significant contribution as he has the staying power. I think Powell batted pretty well and was unlucky to have inside edged off Lyon. Rampaul should probably come at number 6 as he batted pretty well for a number 10. Windies should stop over depending on Chanderpaul. Sammy also must be more patient and try to post a reasonable contribution. @Erebus26, I think Windies will do pretty well in England considering how Sri Lanka managed in the tests in England last year, barring the 5th day last session in Cardiff. If my team Sri Lanka did reasonably in the tests in England, nothing can stop the Windies from doing the same in England.

  • POSTED BY Wozza-CY on | April 26, 2012, 0:20 GMT

    Are we giving our new players enough time to settle into Test cricket or do we expect too much of them too quickly? With Hughes, Khwaja & Marsh all in & out in quick succession, I reckon as long as the team keeps winning Cowan & Warner should be persisted with. Realistically who is going to replace them anyway? Quiney would make the best case IMO. So much better to have Wade coming in & playing the 'situation', very much unlike his predecessor.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 0:18 GMT

    Barath, Baugh, Brathwaite and Powell are not test batsmen and should not be taken to England. Replace them with the likes of Gayle, Kirk Edwards, Sarwan and Ramdin or bring back Marlon Samuels. It would be 3-0 to England if you don't make those changes. Even Bangladesh and Zimbabwe would fancy beating this WI lineup.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    Well, well, here we go again ! It was a very hard fight for the Australians again......, who looked like they have a troubled top order and who cannot play any kind of spin bowling. A team such as SA and Eng. would have beated this OZ team, in this match in about 3 days. WI, without Bravo(SR),Samuels, Sarwan & Gayle may have a slight chance winning this match, but they have shown enough fight to equal the strenght evenly. Bravo(JR),Shiv and Deonarine may make this into a match still......and not forgetting Rampaul at the end, to score the winning runs. Australia, on your next visit, bring some players who can actual play top class cricket. You were and had a very dissapointing tour. 10 being the most marks for good players, none of you had over 6.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 0:00 GMT

    This is Punter's last and worst series in the Caribbean. 544 runs in 4 tests against IND and now only 146 in 3 tests against WI, a team ranked only no.8, whilst IND were no.2. Lyon has only taken most wickets and averages in the 20s against weak batting lineups of NZ and WI, both are just ranked above Bangladesh. Whilst against subcontinent teams of SL and IND, his average is a lot higher in the mid 30s to 40s. He was underused against SA mainly because that was a seamer's dominated series. To see Australia scraping hard against a no.8 side is unusual whilst previous teams would just clean sweep them.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | April 25, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    I reckon the Aussies will be thinking about a lead of 400 so if the Windies can take those last 4 wickets for less than 90 it will give them a boost. ... I have been on his case a little bit lately, but wasn't it nice to see Punter get some runs. .. I've really missed that. ... a pretty sweet knock from Ed too who is also in the spotlight a bit. .. overall another good days cricket from both sides. .. Chanderpaul does it again. .. most of our guys could learn a thing or two from that little bloke.

  • POSTED BY SirAlfredMansbridge on | April 25, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    WI will win only if Bravo and Chanderpaul can score hundreds. And of course if Capt. Sammy can deliver.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | April 25, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    As an Australian I would say that the batting looks pretty fragile. Better teams than WI will be able to fire out the tail and then the middle order fragility will be clearly exposed. Hussey will have his work cut out for him in his last few years.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | April 25, 2012, 23:10 GMT

    The WIndies again fought back. When they lost their 8th wicket there was a considerable chance that they would NOT avoid the follow on. That they got the deficit back to 110 was a pretty good achievement. The numbers are against the WI as of now, & if Oz get another 50 runs or so, you would expect that to be beyond their reach, although not impossible. As long as the weather is reasonable, there will be a result one way or the other! == == == Cowan's good knock is probably not enough to take the ?-marks from over gis head. He'll probably be lining up against the Lankans at the start of the Ozzy summer, but he will need to perform well!

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | April 25, 2012, 23:07 GMT

    Actually a bit of a shame that Cowan scored a 50, becuase he is not test quality. Will get shown up by the South Africans (I mean actual South Africa, not England, for those of you who get as confused as I do) and I doubt will be there for the Ashes. Anyway great to see Punter doing well, although I am sick to death of waking up to another collapse!!!!

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | April 25, 2012, 22:38 GMT

    Game over for the Windies as their batsmen, with the notable exception of Chanders, have shown to be incapable of grinding out a decent score. I think the Aussie tail might resist tomorrow too especially if Hussey is still there to marshal them. Can't really fault the Windies bowlers for their efforts but they needed wickets at more regular intervals. Some things to think about for Sammy going into the tour in England. I don't fancy much of these West Indian batting techniques on English pitches, especially not at this moment in time. I had my reservations about Powell but he looks a better player than Barath and Braithwaite at this time. Are they any other decent openers around as I can't see Gayle coming back until the limited overs matches at the very least. As for the Aussies - Cowan had his best knock of the series but will this be enough to retain his spot for the summer?

  • POSTED BY Nerk on | April 25, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    Australia have simply outclassed the Windies. Not by much, mark you, but by enough. The partnership between the old hand Ponting, and the young gun Cowan was a joy to watch. Hope to see much more of Cowan, who is still finding his feet in test cricket. Sammy's over reliance on Shillingford was obvious, and as much as I like Shilly, he was overbowled in this innings, and the Aussies got used to him. If the Windies can take the remaining four within 50 runs, they have a chance, particularly against an Aussie attack that has performed well, but still lacks discipline when things don't go their way. Either way though, this has been a positive series between two teams on their way back up the pecking order in international cricket.

  • POSTED BY Nathaniel45 on | April 25, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    Darren Bravo has here the opportunity to embrace greatness. May he do justice to his talent (if that's possible). Of course, he will need a helping hand from Shiv. Come on West Indies.

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  • POSTED BY Nathaniel45 on | April 25, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    Darren Bravo has here the opportunity to embrace greatness. May he do justice to his talent (if that's possible). Of course, he will need a helping hand from Shiv. Come on West Indies.

  • POSTED BY Nerk on | April 25, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    Australia have simply outclassed the Windies. Not by much, mark you, but by enough. The partnership between the old hand Ponting, and the young gun Cowan was a joy to watch. Hope to see much more of Cowan, who is still finding his feet in test cricket. Sammy's over reliance on Shillingford was obvious, and as much as I like Shilly, he was overbowled in this innings, and the Aussies got used to him. If the Windies can take the remaining four within 50 runs, they have a chance, particularly against an Aussie attack that has performed well, but still lacks discipline when things don't go their way. Either way though, this has been a positive series between two teams on their way back up the pecking order in international cricket.

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | April 25, 2012, 22:38 GMT

    Game over for the Windies as their batsmen, with the notable exception of Chanders, have shown to be incapable of grinding out a decent score. I think the Aussie tail might resist tomorrow too especially if Hussey is still there to marshal them. Can't really fault the Windies bowlers for their efforts but they needed wickets at more regular intervals. Some things to think about for Sammy going into the tour in England. I don't fancy much of these West Indian batting techniques on English pitches, especially not at this moment in time. I had my reservations about Powell but he looks a better player than Barath and Braithwaite at this time. Are they any other decent openers around as I can't see Gayle coming back until the limited overs matches at the very least. As for the Aussies - Cowan had his best knock of the series but will this be enough to retain his spot for the summer?

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | April 25, 2012, 23:07 GMT

    Actually a bit of a shame that Cowan scored a 50, becuase he is not test quality. Will get shown up by the South Africans (I mean actual South Africa, not England, for those of you who get as confused as I do) and I doubt will be there for the Ashes. Anyway great to see Punter doing well, although I am sick to death of waking up to another collapse!!!!

  • POSTED BY Meety on | April 25, 2012, 23:10 GMT

    The WIndies again fought back. When they lost their 8th wicket there was a considerable chance that they would NOT avoid the follow on. That they got the deficit back to 110 was a pretty good achievement. The numbers are against the WI as of now, & if Oz get another 50 runs or so, you would expect that to be beyond their reach, although not impossible. As long as the weather is reasonable, there will be a result one way or the other! == == == Cowan's good knock is probably not enough to take the ?-marks from over gis head. He'll probably be lining up against the Lankans at the start of the Ozzy summer, but he will need to perform well!

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | April 25, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    As an Australian I would say that the batting looks pretty fragile. Better teams than WI will be able to fire out the tail and then the middle order fragility will be clearly exposed. Hussey will have his work cut out for him in his last few years.

  • POSTED BY SirAlfredMansbridge on | April 25, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    WI will win only if Bravo and Chanderpaul can score hundreds. And of course if Capt. Sammy can deliver.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | April 25, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    I reckon the Aussies will be thinking about a lead of 400 so if the Windies can take those last 4 wickets for less than 90 it will give them a boost. ... I have been on his case a little bit lately, but wasn't it nice to see Punter get some runs. .. I've really missed that. ... a pretty sweet knock from Ed too who is also in the spotlight a bit. .. overall another good days cricket from both sides. .. Chanderpaul does it again. .. most of our guys could learn a thing or two from that little bloke.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 0:00 GMT

    This is Punter's last and worst series in the Caribbean. 544 runs in 4 tests against IND and now only 146 in 3 tests against WI, a team ranked only no.8, whilst IND were no.2. Lyon has only taken most wickets and averages in the 20s against weak batting lineups of NZ and WI, both are just ranked above Bangladesh. Whilst against subcontinent teams of SL and IND, his average is a lot higher in the mid 30s to 40s. He was underused against SA mainly because that was a seamer's dominated series. To see Australia scraping hard against a no.8 side is unusual whilst previous teams would just clean sweep them.

  • POSTED BY on | April 26, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    Well, well, here we go again ! It was a very hard fight for the Australians again......, who looked like they have a troubled top order and who cannot play any kind of spin bowling. A team such as SA and Eng. would have beated this OZ team, in this match in about 3 days. WI, without Bravo(SR),Samuels, Sarwan & Gayle may have a slight chance winning this match, but they have shown enough fight to equal the strenght evenly. Bravo(JR),Shiv and Deonarine may make this into a match still......and not forgetting Rampaul at the end, to score the winning runs. Australia, on your next visit, bring some players who can actual play top class cricket. You were and had a very dissapointing tour. 10 being the most marks for good players, none of you had over 6.