West Indies v New Zealand, 1st ODI, Kingston July 5, 2012

Russell four sets up comfortable Windies win

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West Indies 136 for 1 (Smith 65*, Gayle 63*) beat New Zealand 190 for 9 (Watling 60, Russell 4-45, Narine 2-26) by nine wickets (by D/L method)
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

New Zealand got a sampler of how tough this ODI series could get for them when their inexperienced line-up crumbled against disciplined bowling led by Andre Russell and their bowlers were swatted away by Chris Gayle and Dwayne Smith.

The sharp Russell struck with his first delivery, in the second over, and New Zealand were always under pressure after that. BJ Watling, the wicketkeeper-batsman, hung around to ensure New Zealand batted out 50 overs, something they hadn't looked like achieving at 71 for 5 in the 24th over.

In contrast, Gayle and Smith bulldozed their way to 93 for 1 in 18 overs before returning after an almost two-hour rain break to motor to the revised target of 136 in 33 overs with 52 deliveries to spare. The game, though, had almost been decided during New Zealand's disappointing innings.

The visitors made the Sabina Park surface look much worse than it actually was. There was bounce, but little seam movement, and the swing wasn't unmanageable. West Indies, though, made superb use of whatever was on offer, Russell finding just enough away shape to have Guptill edging his sixth ball low to second slip. That was one of the few wickets New Zealand did not give away.

Daniel Flynn seemed to have recovered from a scratchy start only to chop a drive onto his stumps; Rob Nicol looked alright before charging and holing out to deep square leg to give Russell his third wicket in his fifth over.

New Zealand were 36 for 3 in ten overs when Sunil Narine came on to bowl, and predictably, they had no clue what was coming their way. Thumb or no thumb on the ball, they could not make out the big offspinner from the carrom ball. Dean Brownlie scratched around for 13 balls to make one run before being caught plumb in front by a straighter one from Narine.

Kane Williamson, the stand-in New Zealand captain, and Watling somehow managed to survive Narine's opening spell of 5-1-4-1. Just when New Zealand seemed to have begun some sort of recovery, Williamson, on 24, guided Darren Sammy's fourth ball into the hands of the keeper to leave the visitors struggling to survive the full 50 overs.

Watling, though he never looked completely in control, settled down to nudge and whip on the leg side, 50 of his 60 runs coming on that half of the ground. He added 46 with Jacob Oram and 44 with Andrew Ellis and survived two leg-before referrals, against Narine when on 26 and against Russell on 40.

But the boost that could have taken New Zealand towards a fighting total never arrived. Jacob Oram, the only New Zealand batsman who looked threatening, got out in the second over of the batting Powerplay, looking for more runs after swinging a couple of sixes. Just 26 runs came off the Powerplay ultimately, and it ended with Ellis playing out a maiden to Narine, who later bowled Ellis to finish with 2 for 26.

Watling continued to accumulate as New Zealand scraped 57 off the last ten overs, but as if succumbing to Russell and co. was not enough, New Zealand had Gayle and Smith to contend with. To round off their woes, Ellis could not bowl after picking up a leg injury while batting.

In his first international match at his home ground since June 2009, Gayle began like he often has recently, with a maiden to Tim Southee. He soon started to swing boundaries down the ground freely. Southee and Oram were lifted nonchalantly for straight sixes; the spinners Tarun Nethula and Nicol met a similar fate. Smith, who largely struggled for timing, clobbered a few sixes over his favoured leg side, and also benefited from loose deliveries on the pads.

With West Indies having knocked off nearly half of the original target in 18 overs, the expected rain arrived. Had there been a washout, the game would have ended without a result as West Indies' innings had been halted two overs short of the 20 needed for the Duckworth-Lewis method to be applied.

However, play eventually resumed with an hour to go for the cut-off time of 6 pm, leaving West Indies another 43 to get in 90 deliveries. Gayle and Smith eased to victory in fading light; New Zealand's chances had faded long back.

Abhishek Purohit is an editorial assistant at ESPNcricinfo

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  • denessa on July 6, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    KEEP UP THE TREND WINDIES ........THE SERIES BELONGS TO U ........ALL THE BEST........

  • cracker2012 on July 6, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Congrats on a well fought victory WI. However, I don't like the way the WI treats its older players like over-used garbage. Chanderpaul should NOT be left out or forced out of the WI side because he is too old (or whatever) and should NOT have to fight for a spot in the team.

    He still has a lot to offer to WI cricket,

  • unant on July 6, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    I know I am off the mark but still let me make my point. I find the terms four-for / five-for for wickets taken, somewhat funny. It appears as a forced nomenclature just to distinguish runs from wkts. Its an attempt to coin a classy term for wkts taken but fails miserably at that. One might as well just say five wkts/four wkts and keep it simple.

  • lyl67 on July 6, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Even with technology the officials still get their decisions wrong, no wonder India is objection to the DRS system, although I am in favour something has to be done about the LBW decisions.

  • on July 6, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    wi v india wct20 final !!!!!!!!!!!! wat a treat 2 watch!!!!!

  • TestIP on July 6, 2012, 13:56 GMT

    Well Played WI. Just Sarwan Taylor is missing now and the team will be successful! I had a joke when I saw ENGLAND is the number one 20/20 and Test team because ENGLAND cannot win a series outside of ENGLAND. I am shocked. Seems like the more money the team has the higher their rankings are with the ICC. This is a joke actually because even WI will destroy England in 20/20 with this team. SWANN is # 1 20/20 bowler. This is a joke as well. Try the Afridi, Tanvir, Gul, Narine Malinga...Lol so many better bowler than SWANN. This is shocking news. The ICC rankings is a big joke.

  • drlove2344 on July 6, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    The persons that say Lendl Simmons should not be in West Indies , do u guys think before u talk???? who will u put in front of him?? everyday is not catching day maybe he fails now but yall know the talent he has, when Windies was down who help them smh... yall need to chill

  • on July 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Its amazing ho we look at the game and judge by just watching a few games. Previous to the English tour, Simmo had the highest ODI average among our players (minus Gayle). includes our stars like Bravo / Pollard / Smith. He has been injured and not lacking some form and under pressure. However Simmo is a good player and will get it right soon. Well done WI, keep it up, lets hope these wins propel us to bigger things

  • mar2000 on July 6, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    For quite sometime now i have been saying that the West Indies have been playing against 13 men on the field of play . Now with the new technogoly , they aer up against 14 . The replay clearly showed that SIMMONS should not have been given out . Thanks SMITTY , keep on batting .

  • punter-gilly-haydos-mcgrath-warne on July 6, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    I think Simmons needs to play only when a team needs a batsman to hold out in a test for a draw!! he is not made to make runs period!

  • denessa on July 6, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    KEEP UP THE TREND WINDIES ........THE SERIES BELONGS TO U ........ALL THE BEST........

  • cracker2012 on July 6, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Congrats on a well fought victory WI. However, I don't like the way the WI treats its older players like over-used garbage. Chanderpaul should NOT be left out or forced out of the WI side because he is too old (or whatever) and should NOT have to fight for a spot in the team.

    He still has a lot to offer to WI cricket,

  • unant on July 6, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    I know I am off the mark but still let me make my point. I find the terms four-for / five-for for wickets taken, somewhat funny. It appears as a forced nomenclature just to distinguish runs from wkts. Its an attempt to coin a classy term for wkts taken but fails miserably at that. One might as well just say five wkts/four wkts and keep it simple.

  • lyl67 on July 6, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Even with technology the officials still get their decisions wrong, no wonder India is objection to the DRS system, although I am in favour something has to be done about the LBW decisions.

  • on July 6, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    wi v india wct20 final !!!!!!!!!!!! wat a treat 2 watch!!!!!

  • TestIP on July 6, 2012, 13:56 GMT

    Well Played WI. Just Sarwan Taylor is missing now and the team will be successful! I had a joke when I saw ENGLAND is the number one 20/20 and Test team because ENGLAND cannot win a series outside of ENGLAND. I am shocked. Seems like the more money the team has the higher their rankings are with the ICC. This is a joke actually because even WI will destroy England in 20/20 with this team. SWANN is # 1 20/20 bowler. This is a joke as well. Try the Afridi, Tanvir, Gul, Narine Malinga...Lol so many better bowler than SWANN. This is shocking news. The ICC rankings is a big joke.

  • drlove2344 on July 6, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    The persons that say Lendl Simmons should not be in West Indies , do u guys think before u talk???? who will u put in front of him?? everyday is not catching day maybe he fails now but yall know the talent he has, when Windies was down who help them smh... yall need to chill

  • on July 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Its amazing ho we look at the game and judge by just watching a few games. Previous to the English tour, Simmo had the highest ODI average among our players (minus Gayle). includes our stars like Bravo / Pollard / Smith. He has been injured and not lacking some form and under pressure. However Simmo is a good player and will get it right soon. Well done WI, keep it up, lets hope these wins propel us to bigger things

  • mar2000 on July 6, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    For quite sometime now i have been saying that the West Indies have been playing against 13 men on the field of play . Now with the new technogoly , they aer up against 14 . The replay clearly showed that SIMMONS should not have been given out . Thanks SMITTY , keep on batting .

  • punter-gilly-haydos-mcgrath-warne on July 6, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    I think Simmons needs to play only when a team needs a batsman to hold out in a test for a draw!! he is not made to make runs period!

  • on July 6, 2012, 9:03 GMT

    WI at this time is the most talanted side in the world but not consisten as well as pakistan...the two natural talanted sides.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 6, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    Note to WI: LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! LMP Simmons IS NOT AN OPENER! You tried that in England and it didn't work. Gayle and Smith are the openers. Period.

  • priceless1 on July 6, 2012, 8:27 GMT

    Seriously i dont know why that Simmons guy is in the WI team, every time i look at the score card there is always a big Zero in front of his name

  • rienzied on July 6, 2012, 8:11 GMT

    What talent there is among the windies, if only we had all these players in the UK, at least the defeats wouldnt have been so one sided. Can you imagine if sarwan is allowed to play????

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    What's the deal with all the NZ absentees? Vettori and Mccallum and then there's the likes of Ryder and Franklin. And has Styris retired? I know Taylor is injured so I've not mentioned him

  • maddy20 on July 6, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    G_storm is settling in nicely. Wt20 is gonna be a nightmare for other teams!

  • Colombofan on July 6, 2012, 6:02 GMT

    this is the weakest NZ team i have ever seen.

  • BackfootNossyfan on July 6, 2012, 5:44 GMT

    I'm a New Zealand fan, but Gayle is magnificent to watch. The BLACKCAPS will keep learning. Kane Williamson did a good job captaining under pressure. He's got a brilliant cricketing mind and I know he'll be thinking of several solutions to several problems as we type. I hope Boult gets brought in on Sunday - he's a possible replacement for Oram, no mug with the bat and good at swinging the ball both ways. One of the commentators said yesterday about NZ that "it's only a matter of time". I agree with them. Soon this team will come together - I actually think it will coincide with the return of Ryder - and everything will be fine. As for the Windies, well, they keep getting better.

  • on July 6, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    Well played Windies! I'm happy for Dwayne Smith. He has been pretty consistent since being recalled to the WI team.

  • ARJa on July 6, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    Good win for the west indies. but they cannot seriously be overjoyed with this. Given the composition of the NZL team, anyone who looses to them should be worried. however, on the same note, it is idiotic to argue that the only reason the west indies beat NZL is because there is no Taylor, McCullum, Franklin or Ryder. The windies didn't select the NZL team. They did it them selves. You cannot argue based on the grounds that players who are not in the team would have performed. Taylor is injured which is part of the game. if McCullum or Franklin want to rest after IPL, it is not windies fault either. As for Ryder, his mind isn't exactly in cricket at the moment. if we follow these arguements, we can still say if Gayle was in the team over the past year WI might have won more. Jerome Taylor or Roach might have been better in the place of Sammy. Sarwan could have made the middle order stronger. all are ifs and buts, not facts. it is just an ODI. the better team on the day won.

  • superstar100 on July 6, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    y gayle not included in the team after world cup WI cricket suffer lot of losses in absence of gayle ...well done team WI

  • Philippe on July 6, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    I would love to see WI team like this.. they are ready for the big bash to come up to challenge strong teams in all formats.. teamz on revival after gayle's advent into the team.. probably they will take little more time to performance at their best in all the formats in test, ODI & 20-20 with players like these..

  • Lermy on July 6, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    This is about the worst NZ has played for a while. They even looked more convincing against SA. Maybe we need to give this West Indies team more credit, even though it looks quite lightweight compared to teams of the past! No real pace apart from Edwards when he plays, but some quality bowling anyway. You don't have to bowl at 150 k + if u get the ball in the right place and do enough. Still i miss the windies of the 80s and 90s, only Gayle seems to have that menacing presence. But at this rate they will only need Gayle. He doesn't look like getting out, and looks far more dangerous when hes pacing himself, biding his time. When he does hit out it all looks so easy, like a net session.... ...think its time I woke up and hit a six, whack!

  • on July 6, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    Someone asked why Franklin was left out - I understand it was the same as Brendon, they are having a rest due to huge schedules with the IPL and also future tours coming up for NZ.

    I am unsure of the logic, but these guys need to make some money and being hired guns is part of it - so be it.

    The other logic I miss, is why when a team is chasing a low amount - why did Mills not come back into attack earlier. another couple of overs at under 2 run rate...could mean a little bit more pressure. I feel we are missing the guidance of a Fleming or Vettori who would out think a team. I get the feeling now it is about trying to keep them thinking. 20/20s suggested this with one over spells, anyone who had played cricket knows it can take 2-3 overs to get into your stride.

  • on July 6, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    Enough with the negativity! Simmons did well for us last year so give him a break he's been out through injury and is making his way back. Focus on the win not the 1 WI wkt that fell.

  • on July 6, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    Guptil and Southee really need to step up. Guptil especially being one of the only 'experienced' players in this line up, hes been very average in his last 4-5 innings and in an ideal world definitely shouldn't be an automatic pick. Anyone can plainly see that sounthee has been struggling for a while they should try Wagner or Boult.

  • on July 6, 2012, 1:49 GMT

    Keep on winning Windies, good job!!

  • on July 6, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    I hope Ellis will heal from his grade 1 quad groin strain. I can't understand why Brownlie is playing because he is clearly out of form and out of touch. On that note, good bowling from Narine and Russel.

  • HairyKiore on July 6, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    West Indies hammer weakened New Zealand???? I wonder why CrikInfo thinks NZ is weakened ....Presumably you think Taylor etc will actually strengthen the team ...apart from McCullum and Ryder I do not think so ..Our NZ Head Office has not a clue when it comes to selecting teams ..Goodness knows how many "fast" bowlers they will send to Sri Lanka.. Its time for a completely new team that value playing for ones country with pride,every game and not every now and then when the criticism gets so great they actually do pull out a good performance from somewhere...HK

  • KathmanduNepalSandeshLamsal on July 6, 2012, 1:40 GMT

    easy win for w.indies.

    again want to remind play according to the type of match...... straight to SIMMONS this time, ...12 dot balls not way of playing ODI match...

    pace your self otherwise SMITH will be an opener.

  • TheLight on July 6, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    @sir sobers. So Simmons is not doing well. Okay fine, but to say he is not an opener means that you know nothing about WI cricket or it's players. You seem to forget that before the England tour he had 8 half centuries from 12 innings and has been WI most consistent ODI batsman.

  • on July 6, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    why they keeep persisting with simmons to open??...clearly smith is doing the job alot better..just stick with smith and gayle to open and stop moving them around ugh

  • on July 6, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    Chris Gayle back to his best. If he played against Australia, they would've easily won the series.

  • maitland on July 6, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    Any idea why Franklin wasn't wanted?

  • MrZygon on July 6, 2012, 0:06 GMT

    Surely this is the worst team NZ has put on the park since Cairns and Parore spat the dummy and left the windies tour in the 90s. Oh hang on they had at least Craig Spearman. As a NZer I think its a bit of an insult we presume we are good enough to rest McCullum and leave Franklin to play county cricket on the first tour of the west Indies in a decade.

  • on July 5, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    Bear in mind people, the Windies are just coming off of two tough series' against England and Australia, whereas New Zealand haven't played as a team since March. Factor in that it's in the West Indies and the NZ are not at full strength (whereas the home side pretty much are), and it's hardly a suprise that they're struggling. It's not as though we (I'm a kiwi) have a lot of depth either. Put it this way; if you removed the top performing West Indians (Gayle, Narine, et al) from the side, and sent the team over here to play they'd also struggle. Get some perspective people.

  • on July 5, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    @sirsobers, agree that Simmons is a failure at the top. My guess is that management is telling him to go there and hold an end while gayle scores. This is typical of thier strategy. It has failed and will continue to fail.He should replace Ramdin in the ODI's While I want the WI to win, I also want them to be challenged, so that when better teams come along they are up for it.

  • Min2000 on July 5, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    NZL is currently without their 3 best batsmen - Taylor, McCullum & Ryder - so yes, this is a weakened team, but I'm still banking that it'll be a hard fought series.

  • on July 5, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    How come this match was on a Thursday rather than a weekend day? It's one thing to get silly schedules when you're touring but to get them at home is poor planning. A w/e match with Chris Gayle playing for the first time in the maroon in over a year at Sabina would have been a rollicking sellout.

  • jb633 on July 5, 2012, 23:31 GMT

    God that was one of the most one sided games I have ever seen. This NZ are actually an embarassment and these ODI's will be dominated by the WI side. As an English fan I am glad to see Narine look a handful again, to prove many of my fellow countrymen wrong. I think going forward he is going to be the key to WI cricket. Against England every single factor was stacked against him. The weather, pitches, position of his side and all were factors that led to him inevitably being less than effective. I think England is actually the hardest country to bowl spin in at present. In the sub continent, WI and even SA the conditions wil favour him more and I see him being a real handful. I think he will be even more of a threat in the longer format, if he is given time to devlop.

  • tongue on July 5, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    The captaincy produced the good spell fron Andre Russel

  • on July 5, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    new zealand please bring a better team. This is just too easy

  • on July 5, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Great win windies! Continue playing well and give haters something to talk about.... See how significant Gayle is in the team....Hope Gibson is kicking himself now!

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 5, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    Nice start by the Windies. A good display in the field, followed by a swiftish, if truncated finish. Hope to see more of the same in two days time. Now that the Windies deservedly have their noses in front, I hope that this pattern continues for the remainder of the season, and not just this one day series. A victory in the test series is also a must, as the region has waited too long for a series victory against one of the better sides in world cricket, and test cricket is THE real format. Would love to see Delorn Johnson blooded against the Kiwis, he has phenomenal potential, and it would be wise to start him off against a side such as NZ, rather than SA/ENG etc.

  • on July 5, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    Not a bad fightback from NZ, considering the position of 71-5.They were able to bat out their 50ovs, and in my view were just about 70 runs short. WI have some questions to answer in the bowling dept. Narine is still the danger man. However WI look on their way to a comfortable victory, maybe via D/L.

  • EnglishCricket on July 5, 2012, 20:53 GMT

    I'm surprised why England next year will be playing New Zealand in a full series against New Zealand twice home and away because it looks on paper pretty one sided to me in England's favour. New Zealand clearly are becoming an ordinary team now and in the highlights I have watched in this series against the West Indies, the West Indies were in control of the New Zealanders. If West Indies struggled against England in their recent tour then I can't see New Zealand next year coming close to England in their matches.

  • Mian-ji on July 5, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Are they playing at an average of one 'SIX' per over or they are in some sort of 'Six For Six' competition????

  • on July 5, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    nz are battling,not much to frighten the opposition.leadership a problem.HAVE THEY A TRAINING ACADEMY? i THINK ITS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME BEFORE SOME STARS DEVELOP.Hope I am wrong..

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 5, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    Simmons was unlucky as it was clearly a no ball but still 12 dot balls opening the innings is not good enough HE IS NOT AN OPENER, SMITH is a much more complete batsman he should always open with Gayle Gibson should know this by now and stop messing with him he needs to know his value and place in the side as an opener. Simmons should only be playing if he is keeping wicket and coming in 6 at the earliest or to have a dash at the end of an innings.

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  • BRUTALANALYST on July 5, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    Simmons was unlucky as it was clearly a no ball but still 12 dot balls opening the innings is not good enough HE IS NOT AN OPENER, SMITH is a much more complete batsman he should always open with Gayle Gibson should know this by now and stop messing with him he needs to know his value and place in the side as an opener. Simmons should only be playing if he is keeping wicket and coming in 6 at the earliest or to have a dash at the end of an innings.

  • on July 5, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    nz are battling,not much to frighten the opposition.leadership a problem.HAVE THEY A TRAINING ACADEMY? i THINK ITS GOING TO BE A LONG TIME BEFORE SOME STARS DEVELOP.Hope I am wrong..

  • Mian-ji on July 5, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Are they playing at an average of one 'SIX' per over or they are in some sort of 'Six For Six' competition????

  • EnglishCricket on July 5, 2012, 20:53 GMT

    I'm surprised why England next year will be playing New Zealand in a full series against New Zealand twice home and away because it looks on paper pretty one sided to me in England's favour. New Zealand clearly are becoming an ordinary team now and in the highlights I have watched in this series against the West Indies, the West Indies were in control of the New Zealanders. If West Indies struggled against England in their recent tour then I can't see New Zealand next year coming close to England in their matches.

  • on July 5, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    Not a bad fightback from NZ, considering the position of 71-5.They were able to bat out their 50ovs, and in my view were just about 70 runs short. WI have some questions to answer in the bowling dept. Narine is still the danger man. However WI look on their way to a comfortable victory, maybe via D/L.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 5, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    Nice start by the Windies. A good display in the field, followed by a swiftish, if truncated finish. Hope to see more of the same in two days time. Now that the Windies deservedly have their noses in front, I hope that this pattern continues for the remainder of the season, and not just this one day series. A victory in the test series is also a must, as the region has waited too long for a series victory against one of the better sides in world cricket, and test cricket is THE real format. Would love to see Delorn Johnson blooded against the Kiwis, he has phenomenal potential, and it would be wise to start him off against a side such as NZ, rather than SA/ENG etc.

  • on July 5, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Great win windies! Continue playing well and give haters something to talk about.... See how significant Gayle is in the team....Hope Gibson is kicking himself now!

  • on July 5, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    new zealand please bring a better team. This is just too easy

  • tongue on July 5, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    The captaincy produced the good spell fron Andre Russel

  • jb633 on July 5, 2012, 23:31 GMT

    God that was one of the most one sided games I have ever seen. This NZ are actually an embarassment and these ODI's will be dominated by the WI side. As an English fan I am glad to see Narine look a handful again, to prove many of my fellow countrymen wrong. I think going forward he is going to be the key to WI cricket. Against England every single factor was stacked against him. The weather, pitches, position of his side and all were factors that led to him inevitably being less than effective. I think England is actually the hardest country to bowl spin in at present. In the sub continent, WI and even SA the conditions wil favour him more and I see him being a real handful. I think he will be even more of a threat in the longer format, if he is given time to devlop.