Pakistan tour of West Indies 2011 April 15, 2011

Seniors not axed, focus is on youth - WICB chief Hilaire

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The West Indies Cricket Board will give as many young players as possible exposure to international limited-overs cricket over the next two years in order to create a deeper pool from which to choose a team for the 2014 World Twenty20 and the 2015 World Cup, its chief executive Ernest Hilaire has said. He spoke to ESPNcricinfo a day after West Indies left out Chris Gayle, Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan, their three senior-most players, from the squad for the first two ODIs of the five-match series against Pakistan that begins on April 21.

Hilaire, though, insisted no one has been dropped permanently.

"We recognise we need to support our senior players," Hilaire told ESPNcricinfo. "We are also very clear that we need to have greater depth in the senior team. We cannot rely on one or two players. It is not a formula for success. I am convinced, and the board is convinced, that we need to start building a team that will win in 2015.

"There is no indication that any player has been axed. The selectors will explain to every player how they fit into the plan. There is no inherent right for players to play every match."

West Indies had a disappointing World Cup campaign, exiting the tournament following a big defeat against Pakistan in the quarter-finals and Gayle, Chanderpaul and Sarwan were subsequently left out of the start of the Pakistan series.

Hilaire added that Gayle was yet to undergo a fitness test after picking up an injury during the World Cup, though this was not mentioned when the team was first announced.

The policy of blooding as many new players as possible will be limited to the ODI and Twenty20 teams, with the Test team bearing a more settled look, because there are definite dates for ICC tournaments. "The Test schedule is different. It is home tours and away tours so it is a different strategy for limited-overs and Tests," Hilaire said.

The policy was put in place in October 2010 and was in evidence during the 2011 World Cup, in which Darren Bravo, Andre Russell, Devendra Bishoo, Kemar Roach and Devon Thomas, all younger than 26, got the opportunity to display their skills under pressure, with promising results. Hilaire said he expects more like them will see action at the highest level so that in two years time West Indies will have a core group of battle-hardened players that will give them a chance of winning major trophies again.

"We cannot keep seeking quick-fix solutions to West Indies cricket", Hilaire said. "We need a structured approach. We are making a heavy investment in cricket development. Lots of investment in youth programs. You need long-term plans. You do not become world beaters overnight. You need to build a winning environment."

Hilaire conceded that there would be setbacks along the way and expected criticism of the board's approach given the diversity in the region and the passion for cricket, but was adamant the board must do what it thinks is right.

"There is a bigger picture and that is the success of West Indies cricket."

Tariq Engineer is a senior sub-editor at Cricinfo

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  • POSTED BY cablemannpete on | April 18, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    someone please tell me how sammy cemented his place in the team,or how thomas gets another chance these guys are ridiculous. Listen guys the WI players rebelled by not signing contracts and yes the board can say they dont have the money but if they cant put a good team togather and start winning how will they make money. I would say Hilaire and all the selectors should go stand in east kingston jamaica and tell the people why the did what they did.I understand they wont come out alive but that is the goal.

  • POSTED BY cablemannpete on | April 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    You might say there is no inherent right to play every match but there is an inherent right of the WI fans to see the best players on the field and it is your job my hillaire to make sure that that is done. I am waiting for the day when you dont have the right to lead the team anymore and I hope you break your damn leg or more.

  • POSTED BY redneck on | April 18, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    i understand what hilaire is trying to do but i dont agree with the method. there is no point throwing 11 lambs to the slaughter! yes by all means get some new faces in the team but that should not be at the expense of gayle or chanderpaul. you play the fresh blood in the same team as your seniors to impart knowledge and wisom and to even show them what it takes to succeed at that level. look at what australias done keeping ponting on. in the west indies gayle is in the same shoes (ex captain and the teams best player) and even chanderpaul same as hussey (mr consistent and a match winner). sammy isnt fit to be a leader and he hasnt played that many more games than those starting out anyway. just because he loves the west indies and is a wicb yes man shouldnt be the only criteria to meet to be the captain of the west indies. you need to be in the best XI in order to be the captain, sammys west indies A at best!

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 18, 2011, 3:20 GMT

    Picking a team can't be that hard. The best in the region that can perform at international level. Specialist batsmen 6, Specialist bowlers 4 and 1 specialist WK, and if we are lucky a genuine allrounder (Dwayne Bravo) would take up either one of the batter's or bowler's roles. There is no specialist captain role. Whilst this is a team picked only for the first 2 one-dayers, selectors need to decide how long they will carry underperforming players under the guise of building for the future. Presumably they have also communicated their intention to all the players - the uncertainty cannot be helping them concentrate on their cricket.

  • POSTED BY robmaha on | April 18, 2011, 0:00 GMT

    The truth is that the WIBC has been blooding young players and buidling a pool of international players for the past decade. What is so different now in the mind and intention of Hilaire and Gibson? Some 57 or so new players have played tests, 60 have played ODIs and over 41 have played T20s in the recent 10 years for the Caribbean team. Most have come with some sort of promise, did not last and then gone.The cream of real talent in a handful of players remained in spite of the not so flattering results.To blame this handful who have kept the WI flag flying amidst the decline of WI cricket is soooo wrong. We shall wait to see if this yet again new set of youngsters will change the tide without that tried and tested handful. If it works we shall hear a big "we told you so". If it fails, one wonders what next the WICB will cook up. It may be time then to give up on a central regional team, really begin to decentralize, and,build six national teams. An inevitability in my mind!

  • POSTED BY Stumpbreaker on | April 17, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    the only thing west indies need is a lot of A tours.. let the a team tour india australia south africa england... and also you need some real characters to turn them into stars.. as you also need to sell their television rights..someone like gayle.. minus the ego.. pollard is a good example too. for too long west indies slept in englands lap.. time to get in to indias lap now to fuel some money into their cricket.

  • POSTED BY stevedd on | April 17, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Mr. Ernest you have done the right thing and in the future interest of your country who had a great history in cricket. great job and god bless you!! keep it up.

  • POSTED BY on | April 17, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    this is an excellent decision by WICB....bcoz this is the right time to induct new blood,right after the WC......remember PAK done the same after 2003 WC and builded a very good side!!!!And this decision against unpredictable Pakistani side is MASTER-MINDED!!!!!!Apart from couple of players i.e Barath and Ramdin, their side well balanced!!!!one thing, i cant understand is the selection of SAMMY???????????

  • POSTED BY on | April 17, 2011, 1:19 GMT

    good nite i am posting this comment from ny i am a supporter of wi cricket three quick suggestion 1. sack gibson as coach 2.sack butts and 3. appoint ramdin captain

  • POSTED BY Anneeq on | April 16, 2011, 22:52 GMT

    Picking young players is all well and good, but they have to have talent. I dont follow west indian club cricket but if these youngsters are doing well in the domestic circuit then why not give them a chance? I never thought id say this but this is a great move by the windies cricket board!! There defo has to be a bigger talent pool for the west indies and they have to move past the old guard of chanders, Sarwan and Gayle, that was very apparent in this world cup. Ppl are just concentrating on short term winning gains, maybe Pk will beat this young team, but thats what happens when u build a team, ul face losses. I disagree with leaving Dwayne Bravo out tho, and i think dwayne should be captain. I also think Gayle is the key for the Windies, his job isnt done yet. the may rest him for the pk tour but they shouldnt exclude him permanently, that would be extremely foolish! Good luck windies!! I hope this works for u i trully do!

  • POSTED BY cablemannpete on | April 18, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    someone please tell me how sammy cemented his place in the team,or how thomas gets another chance these guys are ridiculous. Listen guys the WI players rebelled by not signing contracts and yes the board can say they dont have the money but if they cant put a good team togather and start winning how will they make money. I would say Hilaire and all the selectors should go stand in east kingston jamaica and tell the people why the did what they did.I understand they wont come out alive but that is the goal.

  • POSTED BY cablemannpete on | April 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    You might say there is no inherent right to play every match but there is an inherent right of the WI fans to see the best players on the field and it is your job my hillaire to make sure that that is done. I am waiting for the day when you dont have the right to lead the team anymore and I hope you break your damn leg or more.

  • POSTED BY redneck on | April 18, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    i understand what hilaire is trying to do but i dont agree with the method. there is no point throwing 11 lambs to the slaughter! yes by all means get some new faces in the team but that should not be at the expense of gayle or chanderpaul. you play the fresh blood in the same team as your seniors to impart knowledge and wisom and to even show them what it takes to succeed at that level. look at what australias done keeping ponting on. in the west indies gayle is in the same shoes (ex captain and the teams best player) and even chanderpaul same as hussey (mr consistent and a match winner). sammy isnt fit to be a leader and he hasnt played that many more games than those starting out anyway. just because he loves the west indies and is a wicb yes man shouldnt be the only criteria to meet to be the captain of the west indies. you need to be in the best XI in order to be the captain, sammys west indies A at best!

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 18, 2011, 3:20 GMT

    Picking a team can't be that hard. The best in the region that can perform at international level. Specialist batsmen 6, Specialist bowlers 4 and 1 specialist WK, and if we are lucky a genuine allrounder (Dwayne Bravo) would take up either one of the batter's or bowler's roles. There is no specialist captain role. Whilst this is a team picked only for the first 2 one-dayers, selectors need to decide how long they will carry underperforming players under the guise of building for the future. Presumably they have also communicated their intention to all the players - the uncertainty cannot be helping them concentrate on their cricket.

  • POSTED BY robmaha on | April 18, 2011, 0:00 GMT

    The truth is that the WIBC has been blooding young players and buidling a pool of international players for the past decade. What is so different now in the mind and intention of Hilaire and Gibson? Some 57 or so new players have played tests, 60 have played ODIs and over 41 have played T20s in the recent 10 years for the Caribbean team. Most have come with some sort of promise, did not last and then gone.The cream of real talent in a handful of players remained in spite of the not so flattering results.To blame this handful who have kept the WI flag flying amidst the decline of WI cricket is soooo wrong. We shall wait to see if this yet again new set of youngsters will change the tide without that tried and tested handful. If it works we shall hear a big "we told you so". If it fails, one wonders what next the WICB will cook up. It may be time then to give up on a central regional team, really begin to decentralize, and,build six national teams. An inevitability in my mind!

  • POSTED BY Stumpbreaker on | April 17, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    the only thing west indies need is a lot of A tours.. let the a team tour india australia south africa england... and also you need some real characters to turn them into stars.. as you also need to sell their television rights..someone like gayle.. minus the ego.. pollard is a good example too. for too long west indies slept in englands lap.. time to get in to indias lap now to fuel some money into their cricket.

  • POSTED BY stevedd on | April 17, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Mr. Ernest you have done the right thing and in the future interest of your country who had a great history in cricket. great job and god bless you!! keep it up.

  • POSTED BY on | April 17, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    this is an excellent decision by WICB....bcoz this is the right time to induct new blood,right after the WC......remember PAK done the same after 2003 WC and builded a very good side!!!!And this decision against unpredictable Pakistani side is MASTER-MINDED!!!!!!Apart from couple of players i.e Barath and Ramdin, their side well balanced!!!!one thing, i cant understand is the selection of SAMMY???????????

  • POSTED BY on | April 17, 2011, 1:19 GMT

    good nite i am posting this comment from ny i am a supporter of wi cricket three quick suggestion 1. sack gibson as coach 2.sack butts and 3. appoint ramdin captain

  • POSTED BY Anneeq on | April 16, 2011, 22:52 GMT

    Picking young players is all well and good, but they have to have talent. I dont follow west indian club cricket but if these youngsters are doing well in the domestic circuit then why not give them a chance? I never thought id say this but this is a great move by the windies cricket board!! There defo has to be a bigger talent pool for the west indies and they have to move past the old guard of chanders, Sarwan and Gayle, that was very apparent in this world cup. Ppl are just concentrating on short term winning gains, maybe Pk will beat this young team, but thats what happens when u build a team, ul face losses. I disagree with leaving Dwayne Bravo out tho, and i think dwayne should be captain. I also think Gayle is the key for the Windies, his job isnt done yet. the may rest him for the pk tour but they shouldnt exclude him permanently, that would be extremely foolish! Good luck windies!! I hope this works for u i trully do!

  • POSTED BY xZedx on | April 16, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    Finally, and perhaps most worryingly, we have produced like Gayle, Bravo and Pollard, who refuse retainer contracts, simply because it is more profitable for them to play in the IPL, and to add to this humiliation, the WICB continues to make excuses for them. The Sri Lankan players have been asked to leave the IPL early to TRAIN for the series against england, whereas a couple of years ago, we had our captain arriving from India less than 48 hours before the start of a test series. Yes WICB, thats the way to go, teach our aspiring cricketers that patriotism means nothing in this world, greed is what will make WI great again. I remember Brian Lara scoring 400 with a broken finger, and I've been told stories of Malcolm Marshall batting with a broken arm against England, I wish a could see the day when another west indian would have that same level of commitment.

  • POSTED BY xZedx on | April 16, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    West Indies cricket has become nothing more than a joke. We need to overhaul the entire structure of cricket in the Caribbean. Firstly, cricketing schools in the region aren't producing the same level of players that schools in other countries are, The level of the first class game in the caribbean is miles below par when compared to that in other major cricketing countries. Secondly, the "senior" players never take charge and lead the team - look at chris gayle, constantly giving away his wicket by playing stupid shots, how do they expect the young players to perform if they dont show them the way? Thirdly, no one in the current windies team or any of the regional teams has the qualities of a truly good captain, (bar Daren Ganga, but his batting is woefully inadequate) hence were stuck with daren sammy, an average cricketer who would struggle to keep his place in the side if it weren't for a few technicalities.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    This is ridiculous. All you people talking about "young talent". All the selectors have done is pick "young". To anyone who knows anything about cricket will know that people like Kirk Edwards etc. have not got the ability to play at the highest level - I'm all for youth, like Bravo, Bishu, Martin, but they have to have talent. These guys haven't got it - I mean Fletcher is a tried and tested failure and they still keep on bringing the man back. Mid-way through the series the selectors will be forced into a humiliating u-turn by having to recall Gayle and Sarwan and maybe even Chanders. Mohammed Hafeez, Ajmal, Afridi, Gul and co. will be licking their lips playing against this poor west indies team.

  • POSTED BY drtrinileggie on | April 16, 2011, 17:39 GMT

    You know why they don't pick Ramdin because he is a future captian. He might undermined pathetic Sammy!!!!

  • POSTED BY ravinkalu on | April 16, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    I think we are backward with our plans...exposing the youngsters to international teams without proper training/coaching etc...are we trying to use this as a grooming /training session....we are way below international standards....because our youngsters are not ready for international level...is that too much pressure for the seniors....i think we need schools for cricket....look at the other top teams...sorry my fellow West Indians...we have to be real....do not allow politics /race to make comments.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    I don't understand why it matters if the West Indies wins or not. With the qualification process for the tournaments, they'll be in every one.

    Regarding the players, I'm more than happy to see the board move in a different direction, if only for awhile. We know what these players give us, and apart from Chanderpaul, who has been up and down the order in limited overs, they haven't shown up at the big moments.

    Instead of moaning about it, the players should simply do what Gambir did when he was dropped. He decided to prove to the selectors they'd made a mistake. He was in form for the next two or three years and now has a consistent place in the side.

  • POSTED BY tedboyal on | April 16, 2011, 14:37 GMT

    It is a damn shame the selectors don't know how to select. "New blood" should not be a criteria for selection. They need to get back to basic where performance is the criteria for selection. I a player performs then he earns his place similarly they should not wait too long to drop a poor performer. Also "Old Guard" should not be used for not selecting a player. I think Gayle should have been in the T20 while Gayle and Sarwan should be in the ODI. Gayle, Sarwan and Chanders should be in the test. Sammy is poor performer and the most he should have been included for is the T20 but definitely not for the ODI and test.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 13:14 GMT

    GUYS we can help the selectors, after all it's our team. Who will keep wicket for us. DO u know FLETCHER did not keep inthe last regional tournament?STRANGE! SO will he keep for us against PAK in the T20 match? NOT very prudent. WE need a batter who can keep and not a keeper who can bat. Most of the major teams have avg keepers and good batters.SRL has the best balance. LET us work with SIMMONS;DARREN;FLETCHER;CORBIN;BAUGH. RAMDIN HAD HIS chances and THOMAS CANNOT BAT ENOUGH. MY man is SIMMONS. OK KEEP FLETCHER around.

  • POSTED BY Silva-Surfa on | April 16, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    The Selectors are taking a positive step in trying to move forward. Gayle, Pollard and Dwayne Bravo are freelancers. The commitment of International Cricket is not their top priority anymore and that's fair enough, life goes on. Chanderpaul and Sarwan looked burnt-out during the World Cup and still being two of our best batsmen in the Caribbean, the Selectors are quite rightly preserving them for test matches. Darren Sammy is still a problem because he doesn't really merit a place and compromises the balance of the team. The thing that really bothers me is why the majority of the batsmen in the West Indies, still look really disorganised against good spin bowling. For the last 15 years i can only think of 4 batsmen that plays spin with any comfort at all. Hooper, Lara, Shiv and Sars. We need to address that more than anything else.

  • POSTED BY Faraz99 on | April 16, 2011, 12:34 GMT

    Dareen Bravo is also over rated, he showed he has talent but never performed upto his talent never been sincere with himself or WI team. Daren Bravo have to make sure he should not waste his talent as C.Hooper(who was extremely talented but his records can not justify his talent). WI team should consult to a pshycologist who guide them to mental toughness & understanding the situation for how to act...some times agresive some times defensive but never be excess defense as it destoyrs & the opponant will be beneficial only.

  • POSTED BY Faraz99 on | April 16, 2011, 12:30 GMT

    Dropping Gayle is a sin. Sarwan/C'Paul never been suitable for ODI/T20. Only Gayle/C'Paul shoul be givenn chance to Tests, Sarwan is 110% out of form. If we look at PK/IND always new comers debut with Bang, for WI it ends with D.Haynes/Grendige/Lara for bowlers Ambrose/Bishop was last to impress on debut. Some one have to follow those greats & try to make a big impact on debut with a stunning wining performance.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 12:10 GMT

    In short which other team in world cricket would be clamouring for these 3 to be immediately installed in the squad?The "senior players" let us down terribly during the 2011 WC so there is no better time than the present to try something different at least for the first few ODIs. Im going to put these 3 in order of relevance to the WI right now: RS, CG, SC. CG dominace comes to few and far between that those knocks are becoming more fantasy than reality(remeber the leg side shuffle and sending the ball straight to Afridi). RS just seems clueless these days: he seems out of sorts and more often than not looks like a walking wicket. The other international sides DO drop senior players who are NOT performing.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    Why do we WIndians insist on writing so much garbage? I susupect we have been so accustomed to loosing that we are prepared to go the WC in 2015 with the same squad! And please read the article carefully it says for the first couple of ODIs. It doesn't say for the whole series. As some other people have said what have the "so called senoirs" done for WI say in the past 5 years to help us win anything?Didn't we hear that CG hasnt scored any runs of ANY signficance against teams above WI for about thirty something innings. I guess by the law of averages he should come good sometime. Sarwan, I am not even sure; he just doesnt look like he belongs or commands his place anymore. Was anything seen in WC 2011 to suggest that Sarwan would be the 1st man on the team sheet of any team? Shiv just cant seem to switch gears these days and out of the 3 is the only one that can actually stay at the crease. In short I agree with the board.The indians DO drop players who dont perform.

  • POSTED BY drtrinileggie on | April 16, 2011, 8:32 GMT

    WE NEED SELECTORS TO PICK THE SELECTORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY riverlime on | April 16, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    @paddyrasta and drtrinileggie, I agree that Ramdin is the best keeper and has proven his ability with the bat, but you guys forget that Metman is not alone in his dislike of certain players. Ramdin seems to be destined for Ganga's fate, and nothing he does now will change the envy that revolves around a certain island. @Metman, buddy, the numbers shout louder than you can ever do. Fletcher has never had better averages than Ramdin, EVEN IN THIS YEAR!! And Fletcher has dropped so many catches and missed so many stumpings that he would have to DOUBLE Ramdin's average to justify his selection. As for Thomas, his technique is flawed in that he falls over to the offside too often, when trying to work the straight ball to mid-on. LBW's beckon in his future. Doubters , put your hands up and make yourselves known. Ramdin is the best and most eligible candidate for the wicketkeeper's post in the West Indies.

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 6:54 GMT

    it should be that u give chances to youngsters in T20 and ODI while resting senior players from some of those matches. Not axing all senior players at once. The approach should be seniors play more tests while youngsters get more chances in T20. You can try doing it like India. Even seniors only get chance when they perform and they will perform when u have a long line of youngsters trying to take their place.

  • POSTED BY jadi501 on | April 16, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    Totally not convince with Approach .............New blood must be included but from whom they learn ???? I think team must be with new and seniors players's combination.No way Gayle out from first 2 ODI ? Thomes and sammy have no right to be selected ?

  • POSTED BY Rahic on | April 16, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    Ha! Ha! If the focus is on youth, is Samuels a youth? Mr. Haliare as the old saying goes, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

  • POSTED BY yocasi on | April 16, 2011, 6:07 GMT

    I'd really love to know what young players could learn from Gayle and Sarwan. I'm not necessarily in agreement with the decision to drop them but when we are talking about role models for young players, I think we should look elswhere, other than these two dudes

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 4:36 GMT

    What the hell this selection is???? Experience is needed to improve youngsters.. Where is pollard? So many questions....

  • POSTED BY on | April 16, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    Sounds promising... hope he walks the talk and dont fall back after a coufeats!!ple of de

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 16, 2011, 2:17 GMT

    This approach of fielding a team of no established experienced players (other than Bravo) failed against minnows Bangladesh in 2009 when there was the players dispute and WICB fielded a B team. Pakistan are much bigger oponents. I still have hope but I cannot see this approach working.

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 16, 2011, 1:15 GMT

    @ Metman_ My comments were directed at Hilaire who said that Thomas got the opportunity to display his skills under pressure, with promising results. Since Feb24th, scores of 15,13,dnb,2,9,2,0 does not make a wicket keeper/batsman and does not promise anything really. If you are going to tar everyone with the same brush then expect Thomas to prove me wrong and bat. Ramdin has shown recent form in the 4 day game and should be reconsidered. Why have the 4 day game, if it not used for this purpose? There is nothing wrong with his glovework either. If one uses history to decide who should be in the team, then Samuel's average would not stack up as a specialist batsman or Simmon's, but they are both in good form at the moment. Nuff said about Pollard.

  • POSTED BY Robster1 on | April 16, 2011, 0:49 GMT

    Gayle and Chanderpaul will be back in WI colours before the season is out.

  • POSTED BY drtrinileggie on | April 16, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    Selection is easy, pick your best 11. From that pick the person who commands respect, who is intelligent, knowledgeable and who can think on his feet. Have these requirements been met. NO. Metman we get it you don't like trinis. Ramdin IS THE BEST GLOVEMAN UNDISPUTED.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 23:16 GMT

    The WCIB needs to know that if you have five world class players in Gayle, Sars,Shiv,Pollard, and Bravo. That's a START . U need to get six more quality players to make up a final eleven. U don't discard the five and then try to look for for a complete final eleven. That's why we have a WI B team and an under17 and under 19 team. U need to groom players, not drop players wholesale and then play eleven inexperienced players at an international meet, especially against Pakistan, they are quality players. is the WICB begging for us to remain at the bottom of the heap for another 10 years????

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    WI will go below Ireland in rankings a year or 2 from now. For the young guys to learn, there needs to be some experienced players in the team. Even if the experienced players doesn't perform, the inexperienced ones will be motivated by their presence and will learn from them, even if it's off the field. Even when Lara used to play, WI were declining, so why blame the seniors for WI poor performance in the WC?

    You can't put the blame on the 3 most senior players because they r 8 more players in the team. Everyone needs to perform. Why haven't Sammy or Thomas been put in the spotlight for their performance? and if Pollard was eligible for selection, they would've picked him in the squad although he a bigger failure in WI team.

    The team would never move forward. I am not a fan of Darren Ganga, but to be fair, the man is currently in top form with the bat. So why not give him another opportunity for the first 2 ODIs?

  • POSTED BY PavanM on | April 15, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    Gayle lose nothing. Now He can play full time IPL.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    lol .lol.lol..lol.....selectors are a big joke .............now no one will come to watch these matches

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    I cannot believe some people are being so harsh on Sarwan. He has been out of international cricket for about two years because of injury and the fact that he was originally left out of the tour of Sri Lanka. When West Indies return to Sri Lanka to complete the three ODI, he was part of the team and he performed pretty well. Even the great Sachin, needed some time to regain his form. As for Gayle and Chanders, players loose there form form time to time...both of those guys have done quite a bit for the West Indies and shouldn't be treated that way. The last time I checked, there are eleven people in the team not three, therefore, placing to the blame on those three guys isn't fair them. What about Darren Sammy? he performed poorly in all formats of the game but yet he is still the captain...that is RUBBISH. It is politics as usual with WICB. For the new guys like Bishoo and Santokie, congratulations on your well deserve selection.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 16:39 GMT

    I think they still believe Pakistan cricket is in turmoil, that we are the new Bangladesh. They still believe that we are the team that can be walked over, thus the team to blood new players on.

    That was 2010. Now Pakistan are on an upsurge. Our new players have been blooded, and some have succeeded (Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Wahab Riaz). Pakistan got butchered in 2010 for fielding a weak team...and even then we had some players with solid experience.

    The West Indies have dropped EVERY established world-class player they have. They are now a bunch of schoolboys with potential. This may work in 2 years time, but as of a week from now, they will be massacred.

  • POSTED BY Metman on | April 15, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    @ Paddy Rasta ! aha ! Now you have turned your your attention to one Denesh Ramdin !In Ramdin's last 9 ODI's,he totalled 112 runs,av 16.00,overall ,81 ODI's,av 19.54....As far as I am concerned,Thomas has another 72 ODI's,in order to come up with a fair comparison.You cannot compare a man with 9 ODI's,with a man with 81.RUBBISH !Ramdin and Pollard belong to the same league,a league of confirmed,established and renown,misfits at the Intl.level.,and that is not hatred,those are facts !and because Pollard is sought after the world over,so what ?he is not sought after because he can bat or bowl ,(Sammy is a better bowler by the way),he is sought after because he can hit some big sixes against bowling that is not up to Intl. standards.That is why he averages only 5.7 against quality bowling !Those are facts rasta !The Board and selectors now pick Simmons and Fletcher,less than a month after the WC,when both of them should have been in the original squad.No foresight whatsoever !

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    All of you who are upset about the senior players like sarwan, pollard, gayle and shiv being left out , tell me just one thing only "WHAT HAVE WEST INDIES ACHIEVED WITH THEM?" when you can answer this give me a call. I fully support the present team and what west indiesCcricket Board is trying to. Whether it works or not it dosent matter as winning is not something west indian fans can depend on to heavily. We as west indies fans tend to defend a banch of players who for the past 5 years have won us absolutely nothing so what experience can they give to these new players ? Experience of loosing. I STILL LIKE SHIV, GAYLE, SARWAN, AND POLLARD BUT IS TIME WE MAKE THEM REALISE THAT WI CRICKET IS NOT ABBOUT THEM ONLY AND ALL WE WANT TO SEE ESPECIALLY FROM THIS YOUNG TEAM IS A DESIRE TO WIN AND TO GIVE THEIR ALL. GOOD LUCK TO THEM AND I WILL FOR SURE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MY TEAM 100% NO MATTER WHO IS IN IT. GOOD LUCK BOYS.....

  • POSTED BY brotherb123 on | April 15, 2011, 16:07 GMT

    the board have my full support....we can't expect players to play all forms of of the games with same results...then it would be a waste of time for the regional tournamet to tae place. those senior players have been there back to Lara, Hooper etc times and we still getting same results. we as west indians seems to more interested in seeing the ball hit the boundry board couple of time and then what?? but in the end the BIGGEST PROBLEM IN OUR TEAM IS MONEY as long as these guys are part of the squad it's MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Shiv and Sarwan are excellent for Test Cricket....ODI & 20/20 not good enough. Gyle been struggling with injury, why do we want to kill this guy by trying to play him in every game?

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 16:02 GMT

    WHETHER to select GAYLE,SAR OR SHIV is not WI major problem. CHECK this out, in the recently concluded REGIONAL 4 day tournament,WI batters scored 21 centuries. ONLY one batsman made a century against the combine c&c, GANGA. A WI discard. NOTE THIS in the last WC, WI v PAK , M. HAFEEZ(opener), had an ECON of1.60; VS KENYA(6.5); VS ZIM(3.66);VS CAN(4.2); GET the message? COMBINE C&C has AUSTIN& KANTASINGH. SO WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS

  • POSTED BY Fatman on | April 15, 2011, 15:58 GMT

    I hope Pakistan give them a good thrashing so they realise their mistake. What happened in the World Cup, Chanderpaul was left not out. These young guys just think they need to hit every ball out the park, they need the experience players to say hang on, bat sensibly, you dont need to do that. Totally agree with bagofella19, WICB seem to be making contradictive comments.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    I cannot understand all the bellyaching and griping regarding the omission of the these guys. WI is not winning with them in the team and their "experience" was not an asset in the world cup. I am huge Chanderpaul fan and I can see that he is on the downside of his career, Gayle and Sarwan have a few years left but have to return to team more focused and consistent . Take the opportunity to blood new players ! My biggest concern is that when younger player make the WI team they do not learn and grow at the highest level, they lack professionalism and do not put in the work to hone their craft, this is attitude that is killing the team and should be eradicated.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    This plan is not good enough. Test matches first!!!

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | April 15, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    Even if they rotate players or revolve players, they are not going to evolve. What good does is do while dropping the big names ??even with big names , they play like minnows. So no point in having them. atleast let these young guys get experienced and we the fans also keep hoping that atleast in 2030 they dont keep saying " we are in the process of rebuilding" .

    Seriously sick of these guys . and even more sick of watching pollard for Mumbai indians.

  • POSTED BY bluhunter on | April 15, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    Are we experimenting on the international scene?WI cricket need THINKERS not irrational decision making folks.

    This is just lame.Would you ever find Ponting,Clarke and Hussey sitting out to groom new players with very limited or no experience at all,nonsense.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | April 15, 2011, 14:30 GMT

    Mr Hilaire, this still does not make sense. At the end of the day Windies need to field the best team if they are to win a game. You do your experiments with having your B team - OK. Its ridiculous that you replace established batsmen with averages od 40+ with untested players at even a secondary level, plus have a captain that is not even the top 100 cricketers in any category. The people of the Caribbean need to have the 11 best players represent them on the field and should not be subjected to your experiments. Otherwise, we would Rally for the real West Indies by boycotting the upcomimg series.

  • POSTED BY fezangee on | April 15, 2011, 14:08 GMT

    WI needs to produce more Gayles.... Its ok if hes out for a series... you cant find more if you dont try new ones... All the best WI... I hope that you guys give us tuff competition...

  • POSTED BY ABail on | April 15, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    I'm a West Indian. And I'm with VivGilchrist on this one. I can understand the need to groom new players, but someone needs to be on the field to guide them. They can't guide each other.

    What gets to me even more is this insistence on grooming young players in the short versions of the game. These young guys need Test experience! They need to work on their craft, refine their technique... Having done that, they'll be able to manage in any form of the game. But for years the WI selectors have pushed these young players into tense ODI and T20 situations, only to see them suffer. Example: There's so much hype about Pollard as a hitter, yet he's yet to make an impact against a top 8 team. He can clobber lesser bowlers from Associate nations and IPL, but that's about it. Why? Because his technique and temperament need work. But we don't play him in Tests... we send him out to swing at 20 or 30 balls in T20 or ODIs. So when the circumstances change and warrant restraint from him, he's lost

  • POSTED BY inswing on | April 15, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    This world cup has just finished. Dropping and taking players "for the next world cup" is silly. One must try to put out a good team out there to win games now. You can't rely on just one or two players, but that does not mean that you drop those one or two players. Two or three spots in the team can be up for grabs, and younger player should be given a chance. It's not like the WI team is so good that no one can get in. There are plenty of opportunities to do that in four years, without putting out a very weak team that will lose badly, and actually ruin the careers of these young players.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    AS I said before I fully support what the BOARD is doing. HOWEVER I stand by my earlier comments regarding GAYLE and SARWAN. THE attitude of these players leave much to be desired, and their objectives seem to be in conflict with that of the BOARD.SHIV should be retained for ODI and TEST matches. HOPEFULLY SAMUELS HAS MATURED, and with SHIV and the BRAVO brothers, it can't be that bad, the captain can focus a little more on his batting,we have more keepers than the law allows, the bowling is competitive, and we r good to go.

  • POSTED BY bagofella19 on | April 15, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    what even more fishy is that gayle pollard and bravo arent eligable to play the t20 match because they didnt play in the carribbean 2020 but during an international ODI series u send pollard away to home his skills hmmmmm tell me ist there something that is very fishy about the WICB

  • POSTED BY bagofella19 on | April 15, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    i cant believe people actually believe the WICB underhand tactics ! i agree no player has a right to be picked for long as they want but how could you leave out your three best batsmen the only three in the side who are proven their worth at the top level. we have tried this before and we fail u all remember when chanderpaulo was captain and he toured SL with out key players, WI play SA what happen even BAN last year what happen hmmmmm. smh something wrong with the WICB

  • POSTED BY jackthelad on | April 15, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    The choice seems simple, between sticking with established players in an attempt to win games, or punting on youngsters in the hope that West Indies will have an international future. Gayle, for example, has been dropped because he refused to sign a central contract and thus throw in his lot with this ramshackle outfit. Ok, you might think this is a cricketing decision, But Hilaire is the CEO and has the ultimate say; and though i search, I can't find any record of his experience of first-class cricket. Wins will help WI out of the doldrums, not hopeful bets on obscure hopefuls.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    its time to groom some youth all contries mush ikeep there youths in

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 12:01 GMT

    This is not good for WI cricket, Gayle should be there in any form of cricket. in no body can stop him when he is in full siwng. You need to take chances and definitely he is a match winner and a very good alrounder.He should not be kept out for a long time.

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | April 15, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    Being Australian I understand the rotation system, but I don't understand "resting" all 3 experienced guys at once. The young guys need experience around them.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    exactly!! the board have my full support....we can't expect players to play all forms of of the games with same results...then it would be a waste of time for the regional tournamet to tae place. those senior players have been there back to Lara, Hooper etc times and we still getting same results. we as west indians seems to more interested in seeing the ball hit the boundry board couple of time and then what?? but in the end the BIGGEST PROBLEM IN OUR TEAM IS MONEY as long as these guys are part of the squad it's MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Shiv and Sarwan are excellent for Test Cricket....ODI & 20/20 not good enough. Gyle been struggling with injury, why do we want to kill this guy by trying to play him in every game?

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 15, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    Thomas got the opportunity to display his skills under pressure, with promising results??? Hilaire_rious! 9 matches, top score of 29, average 11. Surely they should reconsider Ramdin after his recent domestic batting form. But no I guess not - he is older than 26 so cannot make this team, although not yet 27.

  • POSTED BY blackie on | April 15, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    I am west indian and i support the move by the board 100%. A number of our senior players had apparently come to a stage where they believed they were entitled to a pick on any west indies team in spite of at times very ordinary performances. Admittedly, the board has encouraged this by continuing to pick them while they not only played below par cricket but also demonstrated that money, rather than west indies cricket was their passion. These players can now seek 'greener pastures' as they see fit instead of (with the help of WIPA) holding Windies cricket to ransom. lt is important that the young players coming in not become infected by the 'more-money-or- nothing' mentality that has enveloped our cricket over the last 5 years.

  • POSTED BY thebigmun on | April 15, 2011, 9:18 GMT

    judging from his remarks i can tell that hilare knows nothing bout cricket, it is all a business for these guys at the top. how can u develop the youths at the top level? ure supposed to groom them and then they enter the top level developed, but no they want to experement at the top level as tony cozier says my goodness gracious!!! u figure it, try dropping tendulkar lol

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 9:01 GMT

    Nonsense ..Sarwan and Gayle will still b around for the next world cup ..chanderpaul i can understand .. Windies will get a trashing ..leaving out the two most senior players..another pathetic decision by the WICB..

  • POSTED BY kums1985 on | April 15, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    yes i agree with the wicb this is a good opurtunity to see some young talent and see darren sammy captaincy without the senior players but for the india series they should be back otherwise they dont have a chance at all

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  • POSTED BY kums1985 on | April 15, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    yes i agree with the wicb this is a good opurtunity to see some young talent and see darren sammy captaincy without the senior players but for the india series they should be back otherwise they dont have a chance at all

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 9:01 GMT

    Nonsense ..Sarwan and Gayle will still b around for the next world cup ..chanderpaul i can understand .. Windies will get a trashing ..leaving out the two most senior players..another pathetic decision by the WICB..

  • POSTED BY thebigmun on | April 15, 2011, 9:18 GMT

    judging from his remarks i can tell that hilare knows nothing bout cricket, it is all a business for these guys at the top. how can u develop the youths at the top level? ure supposed to groom them and then they enter the top level developed, but no they want to experement at the top level as tony cozier says my goodness gracious!!! u figure it, try dropping tendulkar lol

  • POSTED BY blackie on | April 15, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    I am west indian and i support the move by the board 100%. A number of our senior players had apparently come to a stage where they believed they were entitled to a pick on any west indies team in spite of at times very ordinary performances. Admittedly, the board has encouraged this by continuing to pick them while they not only played below par cricket but also demonstrated that money, rather than west indies cricket was their passion. These players can now seek 'greener pastures' as they see fit instead of (with the help of WIPA) holding Windies cricket to ransom. lt is important that the young players coming in not become infected by the 'more-money-or- nothing' mentality that has enveloped our cricket over the last 5 years.

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | April 15, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    Thomas got the opportunity to display his skills under pressure, with promising results??? Hilaire_rious! 9 matches, top score of 29, average 11. Surely they should reconsider Ramdin after his recent domestic batting form. But no I guess not - he is older than 26 so cannot make this team, although not yet 27.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    exactly!! the board have my full support....we can't expect players to play all forms of of the games with same results...then it would be a waste of time for the regional tournamet to tae place. those senior players have been there back to Lara, Hooper etc times and we still getting same results. we as west indians seems to more interested in seeing the ball hit the boundry board couple of time and then what?? but in the end the BIGGEST PROBLEM IN OUR TEAM IS MONEY as long as these guys are part of the squad it's MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Shiv and Sarwan are excellent for Test Cricket....ODI & 20/20 not good enough. Gyle been struggling with injury, why do we want to kill this guy by trying to play him in every game?

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | April 15, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    Being Australian I understand the rotation system, but I don't understand "resting" all 3 experienced guys at once. The young guys need experience around them.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 12:01 GMT

    This is not good for WI cricket, Gayle should be there in any form of cricket. in no body can stop him when he is in full siwng. You need to take chances and definitely he is a match winner and a very good alrounder.He should not be kept out for a long time.

  • POSTED BY on | April 15, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    its time to groom some youth all contries mush ikeep there youths in

  • POSTED BY jackthelad on | April 15, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    The choice seems simple, between sticking with established players in an attempt to win games, or punting on youngsters in the hope that West Indies will have an international future. Gayle, for example, has been dropped because he refused to sign a central contract and thus throw in his lot with this ramshackle outfit. Ok, you might think this is a cricketing decision, But Hilaire is the CEO and has the ultimate say; and though i search, I can't find any record of his experience of first-class cricket. Wins will help WI out of the doldrums, not hopeful bets on obscure hopefuls.