West Indies v Ireland, 2nd T20, Kingston

West Indies search for missing spark

The Preview by Alan Gardner

February 20, 2014

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Match facts

February 21, 2014
Start time 2pm local (1900 GMT)


Andre Russell was yorked by Tim Murtagh, West Indies v Ireland, 1st T20, Kingston, February 19, 2014
West Indies' big-hitting batsmen struggled against a disciplined Irish attack © West Indies Cricket
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Ireland certainly enjoy their trips to Sabina Park. The "Boys in Green" strolled to victory in the first T20 against a lacklustre West Indies, adding to their list of Full Member scalps. This was different to the breakthrough win over Pakistan on the same ground at the 2007 World Cup, however - Ireland have established their credentials, they merely want the chance to demonstrate them on a more regular basis.

For West Indies, it was their fifth T20 defeat in a row; hardly the sort of form you want to be taking into a tournament as defending champions. Their World Twenty20 campaign begins in just over a month and Ottis Gibson will need to crank up the intensity for the second Ireland match, ahead of three more T20s against England next month.

Since struggling in their opening two Regional Super50 fixtures, Ireland have grown more accustomed to Caribbean climes. George Dockrell and Alex Cusack were impressive with the ball, while Andrew Poynter showed form with the bat. Ed Joyce was fresh to the touring party but immediately found his groove. By contrast, several of West Indies' big names looked decidedly rusty - Darren Sammy, Chris Gayle and Marlon Samuels all missed the domestic 50-over competition with injuries, and it showed.

Form guide

(last five completed matches, most recent first)
West Indies LLLLL
Ireland WWWLL

Watch out for

Dwayne Smith is one of the few West Indies players demonstrably in form, having passed 50 three times in four matches - including 83 in the final - as Barbados won the Regional Super50. Smith is one of the slightly less deluxe T20 guns-for-hire going around but tends to give sides plenty of bang for their buck; West Indies could do with more from him than two fifties in 18 innings.

As Ireland adapt to life after Trent Johnston, Alex Cusack may be able to shoulder some of the extra burden. His four overs of niggardly medium pace cost just 17 runs and accounted for Chris Gayle and Lendl Simmons - enough to earn praise from Ireland's coach, Phil Simmons. It may be unglamorous but, on slow pitches such as those that will be found in Bangladesh, Cusack's role will be important.

Teams news

Five West Indies batsmen made double figures only to fall before reaching 20 in the first match but most will get another shot, as there is only Andre Fletcher to call on. Left-armer Krishmar Santokie could come in to provide variety in the bowling attack - though having not played since the Caribbean Premier League in August, he would increase the lacking-match-practice quotient.

West Indies (possible) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Dwayne Smith, 3 Marlon Samuels, 4 Dwayne Bravo, 5 Lendl Simmons, 6 Andre Russell, 7 Darren Sammy (capt) 8 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Samuel Badree, 11 Ravi Rampaul/Krishmar Santokie

Poynter was preferred to the more experienced Niall O'Brien on Wednesday and should keep his place after contributing the second-highest score. Tim Murtagh was expensive, despite claiming two wickets, with Craig Young providing another seam-bowling option within the squad.

Ireland (possible) 1 William Porterfield (capt), 2 Paul Stirling, 3 Ed Joyce, 4 Gary Wilson (wk), 5 Andrew Poynter, 6 Kevin O'Brien, 7 Alex Cusack, 9 Stuart Thompson, 9 Max Sorensen, 10 George Dockrell, 11 Tim Murtagh

Pitch and conditions

The pitch was quite slow for the first T20, which suited Ireland's attack. There is a threat of rain in the afternoon again.

Stats and trivia

  • Ireland are only 10 points behind eighth-placed England in the ICC T20 rankings. West Indies have slipped to sixth.
  • Avoiding defeat would give Ireland their first win in a bilateral series against a Full Member.
  • West Indies' 116 for 8 was their fourth-lowest total in T20 internationals where they have batted 20 overs.
  • Ed Joyce will play his 100th match for Ireland on Friday.

Quotes

"We never took them for granted. We weren't complacent. They bowled well against us and we just didn't handle it as we should have."
West Indies captain Darren Sammy admitted his side were outplayed in the first match

"It would be lovely to win 2-0, especially as we're probably a slightly better 50-over side than a 20-over side."
Ed Joyce confirms Ireland will be going for the kill

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Posted by delboy on (February 22, 2014, 0:42 GMT)

It is a concern when Andre Russell , who is a BOWLER who bats is unable to bowl even 2 of 4 overs on what is his home ground???

Part of the measure of a GOOD cricketer is to master your game and also the elements of LOCAL, or home ground advantage. When Bravo got expensive I expected Russell to be trusted in to do what he did to qualify in for association with the best coaching WI has on offer which only seem to succeed in striping every element of world-class performance from its players over the last decade. It is now a known fact WI originated cricketers are GOOD until the get involve with the WI setup.

Posted by bbpp on (February 21, 2014, 22:31 GMT)

How can you play Russel, Bravo and Sammy in the same match even if it is a 20/20? Add Mr. hit or miss and you end up with a score of 96 and barely scrape by against the weakest teams because of bowlers who are true bowlers. That is they can BOWL!!!! Similarly you need batsmen who can bat first and foremost. Not one who can bat a bit and bowl a bit and can throw from the outfield. 1-5 should be genuine batsmen and 8-11 should be genuine bowlers. If the batter can bowl a bit ala Simmons then that's a plus and vice versa. Sammy and Russell fits neither category but I may try with Bravo.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (February 21, 2014, 20:32 GMT)

On paper ..

nothing is wrong with this WI team .....

but a Jamaica team will beat Ireland a T&T team will beat Ireland a Barbados team will beat Ireland

There is obviously something wrong in the dressing room. The players are not responding to the coach and his arrogance and incompetence.

The coach must be changed.

Any Coach who can belittle the world Test #1 batsman for batting poorly in a Test, and suggest that he changes his strategy to something more of the coach's liking, has to be an arrogant idiot who has no business in leading an international team.

Ottis cannot even as a bowling coach sort out his pace men's problems and he wants to doctor Chanderpaul's batting style

Can anyone tell me how Ottis got the WI gig ahead of Simmons and Logie who also applied ?

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 18:54 GMT)

Phil Simmons for England coach!

Posted by Roysingh1972 on (February 21, 2014, 18:40 GMT)

Stop it, West Indies is the greatest cricket board in the past, but not in the present and futher. One win every 30yrs

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 17:48 GMT)

the continual failure over the past 2 decades points the the need for a complete re-ordering of the coaches and board... but obviously, the board would not make a decision put themselves out of power.

secondly, a lot of our so called "stars" are not as good as they think they are, technically. sure, this is a T20I, but you still need someone to hold the innings together. and this is where the selectors erred in not selecting a dm bravo, or sarwan, or chanderpaul. makes you wonder if the selectors even know anything about cricket.

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 16:52 GMT)

Is anyone surprised?W.I. will continue down the path to failure until the present system is totally revamped.The odd victory will continue to keep some hope alive only to be dashed by a string of failures.Coach and selectors must go and a proper structure to nurture cricketers from school level onwards must be implemented.

Posted by satspeare on (February 21, 2014, 16:46 GMT)

West Indies NEEDS a batsman to hold the batting together!! It is really ridiculous to be witnessing this continual omission of the BEST, most qualified available batsman in the region! so its HIS age. okay so what about Dareen Bravo? - too what?? Sarwan would have been my 3rd option since his recent performance was comparable in the recent tournament but he is NOT FIT and soon to be TOO OLD also. so now we call on Chris and Samuels - both coming out of injury and not playing any cricket since NZ. how can this work? Pick players on the merit of performance and in this squad will not have Badree, Charles, Cottrell, Samuel and Fletcher replaced with Sarwan or Shiv, DM Bravoo, Barnwell, Cooper and Holder. and yes Ramdin MUST be our first choice keeper given his current form and the lack of form form any other keeper. However, lots of talent in the squad but somehow have to play as a team and rely on someone else to get the job done. Good Luck WI !!

Posted by asiaciarra on (February 21, 2014, 15:27 GMT)

As a WI supporter and long time suffer, I am still rallying, the team is a good team..not sure what the issue is with Darren Bravo omission (seems to be a fallout from the NZ series)...BUT these guys will come good. Still believe in the 11 select that lost...

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (February 21, 2014, 10:08 GMT)

Bring on the GREENWASH Rally Round Phil Simmons

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 8:31 GMT)

good win for Ireland, well played...west indies, I think you drafting new players in the team too soon, people who not ready for the big league...my team ...gayle, smith, Charles, Samuel..simmons..bravo, russel, Sammy cooper, narine...badree/holder/santokie/ ...the problem with rampaul is that he has to bowl out with the new ball, he is poor in the back end of the inning... they can play without a front line fast bowler, west indies doesn't have a good depth fast bowler and badree opens the bowling anyways. bowlers ,narine ,badre ,Sammy, cooper, bravo, russel, Samuel, smith..must can get 20 overs easily from those, and the batting strength is quality..

Posted by CodandChips on (February 21, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

@MeijiMura "England has form in poaching the best cricketers from countries all over the world" is a naive statement, and your lack of examples destroys your credibility. While I disagree with Irish players playing for England, Joyce and Morgan were hardly "poached", given Morgan made the conscious choice as a teenager and Joyce decided for many people even knew Ireland had a cricket team. Rankin was poached by use of his county contract, which was morally repugnant, and also unnecessary considering he didn't stand out compared to English domestic bowlers. I apologise as I dont know anything about the Hamish Marshall situation, but surely if Ireland had succeeded, that would be a form of "poaching"?

Any examples that exclude Ireland, given you claimed "all over the world"?

Posted by barryrichardsfan on (February 21, 2014, 4:56 GMT)

This looks a terrific squad on paper for Windies. Charles in place of Ramdin would even enhance firepower. Despite having such clean strikers, they always lack consistency.

Posted by anver777 on (February 21, 2014, 4:30 GMT)

I wish WI will be in full swing during WCT20.... they will peak at the right time !!!!

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 4:26 GMT)

Chris gayle is the only missing spark for WI. I don't understand why he is not included in this team.

Posted by   on (February 21, 2014, 4:21 GMT)

Once again let me afford my colleagues the definition of madness... doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Sammy, Bravo and Russell playing at the same time, does not make sense. What's the difference between Sammy and Bravo captaincy? We need two specialist players to replace any of the two all-rounders. Its time the selectors, coach and the management team show some vision and insight. We need four specialist Bowlers, Santokie, Narine, Cotterell and Badree. The Keeper and six specialist Batters. Ramdin/ Gayle as Captain.

Posted by MeijiMura on (February 21, 2014, 3:49 GMT)

@CodandChips, I don't think you need to worry that much. England has form in poaching the best cricketers from countries all over the world and Ireland is no exception. If any of the Irish players prove to be stand outs and for as long as Ireland fail to get Test status more of them will be poached and that puts a limit on how strong and how successful Ireland are as a cricketing country whilst at the same time making England stronger. It has been the case with Joyce (who played for England before coming back to play for Ireland), Morgan and Rankin to name just three whilst England effectively blocked Hamish Marshall from representing Ireland with the way the county and international players are set-up in the country. I look forward to the day that Ireland receive Test status. Depending on their performances over the next twelve months it could happen as early as 2016, but I won't be holding my breath as their entry into Test cricket threatens many of the established powers.

Posted by MeijiMura on (February 21, 2014, 3:41 GMT)

It will be interesting to see whether Ireland are able to record a series victory in the T20s having won the first game against most people's expectations. Winning every now and then is one thing but winning consistently is another kettle of fish. I'm hoping Ireland will win the second T20. It would indicate some consistency in the cricket they play and they would enter the one-off ODI full of confidence not to mention the qualification stage of the T20 World Cup.

Posted by FawltyBean on (February 21, 2014, 1:39 GMT)

WI are plotting keep Ashley Giles as England coach for this summer ... This is a long term plot

Posted by   on (February 20, 2014, 22:23 GMT)

there are no performance acheivement standards set for west indians in order to be selected. typical example is samuels, gayle etc. they just get selected. the selectors do not expect much from the players in as so much they do not expect much from themselves

Posted by   on (February 20, 2014, 22:16 GMT)

I think most people think that cricket is played on paper. Tell that to England of were trampled by Australia who just a few months ago were struggling.This happens to the best teams. HoDid we really expect that Gayle, Samuels and company to just come in and bang all is well. We as spectators have no respect for Ireland do we? Maybe tomorrow they will do better tomorrow. But we must get use to the fact that Gayle is on the decline and we need to look at a replacement and remember we have not still recovered from the Greenidge, Haynes era as yet so you can just imagine now. I have long forgot our hay days and just hoping we can get it together. But being on top for a long period with players who only want to play T20 will never get your team anywhere.

Posted by BigINDFan on (February 20, 2014, 22:14 GMT)

WI need to step up and start enjoying their game again. Too many egos and they are not playing as a team. C'mon you see a different Gayle and Bravo in the IPL and they cannot win a game at home? Yes Ireland bowling is very tight but WI should have been able to put a better game. WI fans need not worry since Ind will always underperform than the worst performing team. Currently losing is the trend for the Ind team under the wise leadership of MSD :-)

Posted by wapuser on (February 20, 2014, 21:19 GMT)

I think that Russel and Bravo should be dropped.Bravo only performs in IPL matches and not for WI.Russel is not in form.Gayle and Samuels just came out of injuries,poor selection selectors.Whats the point of holding a 50 overs competition.The performers not given a chance.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (February 20, 2014, 20:40 GMT)

I think West Indies should stop playing int. Cricket and just enter the IPL as a franchise. The players don't seem to perform under national colors either. So, its a waste of everyone's time. Players like Gayle would just love to focus only on the IPL since he has totally forgotten how to play cricket for his country. lol

Posted by android_user on (February 20, 2014, 20:04 GMT)

why play Russell ahead of Fletcher if Russell is not going to bowl a full quota? The Irish bowlers bowled more like T20 champions and their batsmen batted as if they were the home team. WI were second in all departments. At least Sammy won the toss.

Posted by Whispering_Holding on (February 20, 2014, 19:33 GMT)

Too many all rounders: Smith, Sammy, Bravo, Russell, Smith. They're all one dimensional medium pacers who can bowl 2 good overs at best. Their RPO are all over 8 and their batting overages around 30. WI need more adept, specialists with both bat and ball; one more specialist batsman and one more specialist bowler. Of this lot, Smith is the only 'consistent' one in this format....Bravo did well in the last IPL but has never truly reproduced for WI and Russell slogs well near the end or when the game is good as lost. Obviously Sammy is captain and has been fairly better than these two, at least statistically although he is marginally more limited a a player than these. I can't think of why we continue to pick 4 all rounders when we never seem to put up enough runs or contain teams in chases.

Posted by   on (February 20, 2014, 18:21 GMT)

well first of all gayle,samuels and sammy did not play in a while and was pathetic in india and new zeeland.they should not be iun thereuntil they play some cricket and show that they are ready.this will never happen in the big three ans sa. we recently had the nagico odi and there were plenty of players to replace these fellas. barbados,trinidad guyana ,and jamaica has more than adequate players to replace them. the selectors should go hang out by some high school or college

Posted by WeldonHosten on (February 20, 2014, 18:13 GMT)

What amazes me most is the fact that in the last 18 months the West Indies was ahead of New Zealand in terms of motivation and overall performance on the field of play. West Indies was clinical in defeating New Zealand at home both in the One day and test series. New Zealand looked a battered team that could only go down from there. Fast forward to the last 6 months and here is one of the most dramatic rises in cricket. Fortunes have changed and now West Indies is the team that's playing worst than an associate. I watched a few matches of Windies playing over the last 4 months and there is something evidently lacking in the team. There is no fight by the players, no gumption by the coach and management and a somewhat a disconnection between the board and the team. West Indies cricket needs a whole new baptism and a thorough house cleaning if we need to come anywhere close to being competitive.

Posted by   on (February 20, 2014, 17:55 GMT)

Well Mr. Sal Husain lets us hear who you think should have been left out and you would replace them with and why. Think about it carefully. It is much more difficult than hanging out by the sea wall.

Posted by coolie on (February 20, 2014, 17:53 GMT)

Reminds me when Puerto Rico beat USA with star studded NBA players but as the tournament went on and the players finally gelled together they met again and put a spanking on them. Puerto Rico has never been the same ever since...

Posted by CodandChips on (February 20, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

Yesterday I got ridiculed for calling the West Indies "massively overrated" and stating that Ireland had a good chance of a victory. 5 consecutive losses, in their supposed best format, seems to fit this quite nicely.

West Indies should still be able to get a victory tomorrow, despite the dire sate their cricket is in. Good luck to Ireland though.

I actually think Ireland will have a better chance in ODIs than T20Is.

What's worrying is how close Ireland are to my country England in the rankings. With England's woeful batting and dysfunctional bowling, the positions could easily be reversed next month.

Posted by   on (February 20, 2014, 17:10 GMT)

i think the three selectors and the coach should play for the west indies seeing how they can't select a competent side. after the debacle in new zeeland , you think the selectors will learn but learning is beyond them

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