June 11, 2013

An international joke

The performance of a majority of Pakistan's batsmen, and of the people who pick them, has become laughable
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A batting order to forget © ICC/Getty

Has there been a worse Pakistan batting order since the era of Kerry Packer? Even if there has, Pakistan's current bunch comes close. Misbah-ul-Haq and Nasir Jamshed aside, this is a batting order to forget, except it keeps being rammed down the throats of Pakistan supporters.

And there were plenty of these fans filling The Oval and Edgbaston, turning both neutral matches into home games. On each occasion Pakistan's batsmen failed their legions.

How far do you fault individuals for a lack of skill? A deep malaise lies at the heart of Pakistan's cricket structure that nurtures such ineptitude. Hashim Amla, Man of the Match, was lost for words when asked to critique Pakistan's batting failure. "What do you want me to say?" he laughed.

Misbah, meanwhile, described the performance of his own batsmen as a total flop. Whichever new regime sweeps through the corridors of the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore, to be installed as the next Pakistan Cricket Board, needs to understand that the performance of the majority of its batsmen, and the people who select them, has become an international joke. Pakistan's batting problems are chronic and multiplying. The words on the lips of Pakistan's green army witnessing events at Edgbaston were also chronic and multiplying, as well as blue and four-lettered.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • on June 11, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    The problem is more straightforward than people are stating. With a captain like Misbah who cannot score quickly, pinch quick singles and has a careful approach to batting, in both ODI & TEST series, is that he tends to bat too low in the order to be a match winning chaser or a game changer when batting first. The flair players Jamshed, Hafeez, Shezad, Shafiq, U Akmal et care all massively inexperienced in non Asian conditions, like SA proved. But the main issue is that the careful approach is not in Pakistan's batting nature/culture. They don't use their feet which is the other major flaw they all have. If the flair players learned to use their feet, played their natural game and learned to rolls their wrists more they would be more successful. It's called intelligent flair and Amla oozes it. I feel Misbah's careful approach ultimately damages the whole team as only he can play it with some reward, which is not usually a win but a bit of fight when all else is crumbling around him.

  • on June 16, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    sawed ajmal is the only player who can withstand international cricket

  • SebV on June 12, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    I can't believe a comment criticising Misbah has been "featured". As a non-pakistani I can tell you that it's only because of Misbah that your team is at least posting something. Who's stopping the rest of them from batting well? If you leave Jamshed aside and also Shoaib Malik since he is way past his prime, what are Farhat, Hafeez, Amin, Akmal doing? Misbah's slow game is not putting anyone under pressure to hit out, they should learn the patience game from him and other teams, get set before playing the big shots.

  • Imran-Afzal on June 12, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Thanks to the great Mr. Iqbal Qasim (the Legend) for such great selections .... I think he will again resign with honour and will join his bank ... without being held responsible for such selections

    I think Mr. Qasim is responsible for such pathetic batting line up / performance of Pakistan. He should be immediately fired from the post instead of accepting his resign.

  • wrenx on June 12, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    Amongst all the batsman-bashing, let's not forget to praise our bowlers, they bowled like champions in both games. We can't ask for anything more of them, only for our batsmen to give them more runs so they can stand half a chance of winning us a game

  • getsetgopk on June 12, 2013, 5:17 GMT

    So the team isn't doing very well i.e. Players aren't playing flair because the effects of the slow batting from the captain Misbah have trickled down to the rest of the team and the reason for all ills is Misbah, not Hafeez not Farhat and not Malik. I have never heard such a moronic thing in my entire life that I followed cricket. Who stopped Farhat and Hafeez from expressing themselves? I could literally see Imran Farhat's legs shaking while he was batting, poking and prodding until he got his wickets smashed. There was no Misbah in the middle when these two were batting. A batsman that doesn't have a perfect defensive shot in his book is not a batsman. And if you can play a good defensive stroke then more often you can smash the ball around for 4's and 6's and not get out. Amla was dubbed a test batter, look how he changed, look at Misbah, the only guy hitting 6's in Pak these days. Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Haris Sohail, Ramiz Jr. Hammad Azam should be drafted in ASAP n dump the rest

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:04 GMT

    In recent times, Shoaib Malik has done nothing worthwhile apart from one innings against India. In last one year, his 200 runs in 12 ODIs @ 24 and 2 wickets @ 54 only show his steep decline in form. For someone who started as an off spinner and was slated as an all rounder during most part of his career, it is senseless to constantly select him as a specialist batsman without any noteworthy performance at the expense of more talented, technically better and young batsmen. It is high time that we look beyond stale experience. If he needs to be replaced with an all rounder then Hammad Azam is an obvious choice, however if Shoaib is to be replaced by a specialist batsman then Umar Akmal is the most deserving candidate. He is one of the most talented batsmen at the circuit and despite his inability to convert starts into sizeable scores he contribution to the team would be far greater due to his brisk rate of scoring and spectacular fielding. More to follow

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Mohammad Hafeez's lack of skill against genuine pace and moving balls is exposed completely. That is the reason for his continuous failure against quality bowling attacks, which puts enormous pressure on the middle order. As a top order batsman in the last 12months in 16 Odis he has scored 448 runs @23. It is clearly evident that he is not doing what is needed of him. However he is a fine utility player and should be retained in the side, not at the top of the order but somewhere down, may be at 5, especially since he is more at ease against medium pace and spin bowling. This may provide the much needed stability to the wobbly middle order. In the shorter format Haris Sohail may be ideal player to bat at number 3. He is rated very highly, with good temperament and technique and is considered to be good future prospect. However he needs to be provided with adequate opportunities to show his talent and establish his position in the team. More to follow.

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    It is known to everyone that the reason behind the humiliating performance in the Champions Trophy is primarily poor team selection. However it requires a complete analysis of the weak links of the team as it seems that the PCB think tank is unable to grasp the intensity of the situation and to think out of the block to find a remedy. Imran Farhat has failed to do justice to his talent although he has been around for almost 12 years now. His 1700 ODI runs @ 30 with strike rate of under 70 & 1 hundred ( in the career) and 226 runs @ 28 with strike rate of under 60 (in last 12 months) hardly justifies his selection. It is perhaps time to move on now. Ahmed Shahzad is a good replacement. He has a wide range of strokes & is a very agile fielder. His inclusion will also bring a sense of urgency in the batting which is presently severely lacking and is much needed in the shorter format. He could form a formidable opening pair with Nasir Jamshed. More to follow.

  • on June 12, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    I dare say that lack of professionalism and application cannot hide behind the words revolt and the like. People should understand that cricket has become too technical from many angles; at least opposite bowlers learning weaknesses of batsmen before hand and bowling according to the planned fielding set up. Likewise, our bowlers not learning the weaknesses of opposite batsmen (and in fact loosing control on ball too often) and thus leaking runs including bowling wides and no balls at wrong times. THE PROBLEMS RESIDE IN APPLICATION OF BRAIN INSTANTANEOUSLY. Our players will never learn unless they are taught cricket from scratch, and that is really a difficult proposition with this disposition.

  • on June 11, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    The problem is more straightforward than people are stating. With a captain like Misbah who cannot score quickly, pinch quick singles and has a careful approach to batting, in both ODI & TEST series, is that he tends to bat too low in the order to be a match winning chaser or a game changer when batting first. The flair players Jamshed, Hafeez, Shezad, Shafiq, U Akmal et care all massively inexperienced in non Asian conditions, like SA proved. But the main issue is that the careful approach is not in Pakistan's batting nature/culture. They don't use their feet which is the other major flaw they all have. If the flair players learned to use their feet, played their natural game and learned to rolls their wrists more they would be more successful. It's called intelligent flair and Amla oozes it. I feel Misbah's careful approach ultimately damages the whole team as only he can play it with some reward, which is not usually a win but a bit of fight when all else is crumbling around him.

  • on June 16, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    sawed ajmal is the only player who can withstand international cricket

  • SebV on June 12, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    I can't believe a comment criticising Misbah has been "featured". As a non-pakistani I can tell you that it's only because of Misbah that your team is at least posting something. Who's stopping the rest of them from batting well? If you leave Jamshed aside and also Shoaib Malik since he is way past his prime, what are Farhat, Hafeez, Amin, Akmal doing? Misbah's slow game is not putting anyone under pressure to hit out, they should learn the patience game from him and other teams, get set before playing the big shots.

  • Imran-Afzal on June 12, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Thanks to the great Mr. Iqbal Qasim (the Legend) for such great selections .... I think he will again resign with honour and will join his bank ... without being held responsible for such selections

    I think Mr. Qasim is responsible for such pathetic batting line up / performance of Pakistan. He should be immediately fired from the post instead of accepting his resign.

  • wrenx on June 12, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    Amongst all the batsman-bashing, let's not forget to praise our bowlers, they bowled like champions in both games. We can't ask for anything more of them, only for our batsmen to give them more runs so they can stand half a chance of winning us a game

  • getsetgopk on June 12, 2013, 5:17 GMT

    So the team isn't doing very well i.e. Players aren't playing flair because the effects of the slow batting from the captain Misbah have trickled down to the rest of the team and the reason for all ills is Misbah, not Hafeez not Farhat and not Malik. I have never heard such a moronic thing in my entire life that I followed cricket. Who stopped Farhat and Hafeez from expressing themselves? I could literally see Imran Farhat's legs shaking while he was batting, poking and prodding until he got his wickets smashed. There was no Misbah in the middle when these two were batting. A batsman that doesn't have a perfect defensive shot in his book is not a batsman. And if you can play a good defensive stroke then more often you can smash the ball around for 4's and 6's and not get out. Amla was dubbed a test batter, look how he changed, look at Misbah, the only guy hitting 6's in Pak these days. Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Haris Sohail, Ramiz Jr. Hammad Azam should be drafted in ASAP n dump the rest

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:04 GMT

    In recent times, Shoaib Malik has done nothing worthwhile apart from one innings against India. In last one year, his 200 runs in 12 ODIs @ 24 and 2 wickets @ 54 only show his steep decline in form. For someone who started as an off spinner and was slated as an all rounder during most part of his career, it is senseless to constantly select him as a specialist batsman without any noteworthy performance at the expense of more talented, technically better and young batsmen. It is high time that we look beyond stale experience. If he needs to be replaced with an all rounder then Hammad Azam is an obvious choice, however if Shoaib is to be replaced by a specialist batsman then Umar Akmal is the most deserving candidate. He is one of the most talented batsmen at the circuit and despite his inability to convert starts into sizeable scores he contribution to the team would be far greater due to his brisk rate of scoring and spectacular fielding. More to follow

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Mohammad Hafeez's lack of skill against genuine pace and moving balls is exposed completely. That is the reason for his continuous failure against quality bowling attacks, which puts enormous pressure on the middle order. As a top order batsman in the last 12months in 16 Odis he has scored 448 runs @23. It is clearly evident that he is not doing what is needed of him. However he is a fine utility player and should be retained in the side, not at the top of the order but somewhere down, may be at 5, especially since he is more at ease against medium pace and spin bowling. This may provide the much needed stability to the wobbly middle order. In the shorter format Haris Sohail may be ideal player to bat at number 3. He is rated very highly, with good temperament and technique and is considered to be good future prospect. However he needs to be provided with adequate opportunities to show his talent and establish his position in the team. More to follow.

  • somethingdifferent on June 12, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    It is known to everyone that the reason behind the humiliating performance in the Champions Trophy is primarily poor team selection. However it requires a complete analysis of the weak links of the team as it seems that the PCB think tank is unable to grasp the intensity of the situation and to think out of the block to find a remedy. Imran Farhat has failed to do justice to his talent although he has been around for almost 12 years now. His 1700 ODI runs @ 30 with strike rate of under 70 & 1 hundred ( in the career) and 226 runs @ 28 with strike rate of under 60 (in last 12 months) hardly justifies his selection. It is perhaps time to move on now. Ahmed Shahzad is a good replacement. He has a wide range of strokes & is a very agile fielder. His inclusion will also bring a sense of urgency in the batting which is presently severely lacking and is much needed in the shorter format. He could form a formidable opening pair with Nasir Jamshed. More to follow.

  • on June 12, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    I dare say that lack of professionalism and application cannot hide behind the words revolt and the like. People should understand that cricket has become too technical from many angles; at least opposite bowlers learning weaknesses of batsmen before hand and bowling according to the planned fielding set up. Likewise, our bowlers not learning the weaknesses of opposite batsmen (and in fact loosing control on ball too often) and thus leaking runs including bowling wides and no balls at wrong times. THE PROBLEMS RESIDE IN APPLICATION OF BRAIN INSTANTANEOUSLY. Our players will never learn unless they are taught cricket from scratch, and that is really a difficult proposition with this disposition.

  • wrenx on June 11, 2013, 23:35 GMT

    We don't need sweeping change, we need SENSIBLE change. Let's proceed with sensible change, on evidence-basis. Hafeez has proven time and time again he is not a capable top-order batsman, but that his all-round skills are valuable. Shoaib Malik has failed consistently. Straight swap: Malik out, Hafeez in as a lower-order all-rounder. Show Farhat the door; thank him for his services for Pakistan cricket and instil upon him that he need not come knocking ever again. Move Misbah up the order. There is no absence of promising talent knocking on the door - start giving opportunities to Harris Sohail, Ahmed Shehzad and yes, Umar Akmal. Treat him like a proper batsman, not a lower-order slogger, and he should perform once again. Stick with Nasir, Shafiq, Azhar, we'll need them all in the Test side so show them some face. And for God's sake, cut Misbah some slack, he's the only one who isn't embarrassing us

  • on June 11, 2013, 22:55 GMT

    Its Cricket , One has to win , the other has to lose , the only man who fought for Pakistan was Misbah ul haq , after Miandad and Inzimam , if there is someone who bats under pressure , its Misbah ...but sadly one Misbah is not enough , we will need 5 of him

  • PakFollower on June 11, 2013, 21:12 GMT

    It is very sad to see Pakistan batting collapse again. Seems like a routine now. It was shocking to see Umar Amin was selected in place of Asad Shafiq who is the only able prospect of the future ODI side. Imran Farhat and Shoaib MAlik still find place in the squad. Mind Boggling. If we are keeping Kamran in the line up then why he is playing down in the order. Still no place for Hammad Azam. Hafeez has to play down in the order especially in English conditions. As now Pakistan is out of the tournament This could be the ODI TEAM. 1.Nasir Jamsheed, 2.Ahmad Shahzad, 3.Kamran Akmal, 4.Yonius, 5.Misbah, 6.Asad Shafiq/Umar Amin, 7.Hammad Azam, 8.Hafeez/Wahab Riaz, 9.Junaid, 10.Saeed Ajmaal, 11.Mohammad Irfan. Pak has to sore fast with first three. Pls add if there is a better wicketkeeper/batsman

  • on June 11, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    Dearest friends, First off all we have to congrat "Dave Whatemore" for getting accustomed to pak way of cricket "Hamaray rang mai rang gaiye". What a dynamic guy the gentleman was before taking pak coach assignment. This can be termed as one of the best "Worst and Timid" performance of the Pak batting lineup (The word batting lineup doesnt suits us although). The best can always be 2011 Semi Final VS India. Pak cricket have proved that bowling alone in the modern day cricket CAN'T win matches, BUT, on other hand India has proved time and again that batting can. Youth is the urgent need of the day. Harris sohail, Hammad Azam, Umar Akmal, and many other dynamic youngsters should be on the PLAYING FIELD. Tried & tested horses should be watching matches on TV.Pak cricket management did just managed the opposite, No clue how they did. FEDUP of these Action Replay batting displays by PAK TEAM.PAK Management are to be blamed, selectors to start with. PAK CRIC NEED TO COME OUT OF 80's

  • nafzak on June 11, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    The "cornered" Tigers are now an Endangered Species.

  • on June 11, 2013, 17:34 GMT

    i dont understand whats wrong with pakistani selectors i have been noticing they are reluctant to drop player who are not performing well imran farhat, ahmed shehzad,shoaib malik and there are more players who have not performed well from past 2 years and they are still in the team. why did they dropped players like umer akmal,shahid afridi and abdul razzak from the team. afridi is a match winner if he flops in bowling his batting clicks and if flops in batting he clicks in bowling and the conditions in england suits him pretty well..why dont the select sohail tanveer and hammad azam. hammad is an all-rounder he has got a good record. the time has come when pakistani selector should take action.

  • ARad on June 11, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Asian teams generally thrive due to their batting strength but Pakistan has been an exception. Imran, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis are legendary players but they are all bowlers. In batting, apart from possibly Miandad, the other Pakistani batting stars (such as Inzi, Mo Yousuf, Younis Khan) never reached the same heights in the eyes of most international followers of the game. Even now, a full strength Pakistan team with the pace attack consisting of Amir, Asif and Junaid Khan would have given many joyful moments to cricket fans around the world. OTOH, Pakistan has not produced any batsman with the same quality as Mo Yousuf or Younis Khan (and Younis Khan made his debut 13 seasons ago) so the lack of constant success should not be surprising.

  • blogossip on June 11, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    Reply to Abuaamirozair: Sorry i disagree. Misbah is not a match winning batsman. what you need is a batsman cum leader who can show team how to win matches. yesterday's chase was ill conceived. compare with this with Javed's batting (like in sharjah) where he also fought like a lone warrior yet won matches. Ultimately its all about I performed but others failed mindset rather than winning matches

  • on June 11, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    A comment here says that Abdul Razzaq is not committed, please check his last 10, 20, 30 matches for Pakistan, he has been asked to bat from Opener to number 8 and he never complained. He made runs at every position and in almost every match in last few tournaments he came in with 3 or 2 overs left. He still hit sixes, what is he meant to do. Razzaq was dropped for every match in last years T20 and we would have won that tournament. he played in 2 matches and faced less than 2 overs in each game. same story in 2011 world cup when he is easily our best hitter of the ball and extremely consistent and experienced. Razzaq should be Captain he has been treated disgracefully. Phenomenal talent being wasted by Pakistan Cricket Administrators.

  • AamirAbuOzair on June 11, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    Re to Blogossip:: My dear friend, Misbah seems to be a lone warier in this tournament. It looks like that Hafeez is on a revolt with the help of a few more players. How can you say that Misbah put pressure on Hafeez who scored 7 in 21 and Shoaib who scored 8 in 29 balls and both came before Misbah. And in first match 9 players contributing 18 runs!!! Misbah has to lead the team. But here there is no team. We need to give one way ticket to the whole batting line up keeping the bowlers. And bring in sensible players, who are free from politics and personal liking/disliking. This team is a total disgrace to the nation. PCB and selection committee should also resign by selecting this team and becoming a laughing stock!

  • Rubic on June 11, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    GreatWhitePathan - If you really think Misbah is a great leader and player..just ask him to show up early in the office..like Amla, Cook, Clark, Sanga, Tendulkar and our Miandad and Imran used to do…He himself a very limited batsman who stood tall on salvage…

  • Faheem5 on June 11, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    First thing first, We have to admit that there is no place of Imran Farhat and Shoiab Malik. Unfortunately, T20 caption Muhammad Hafeez and One Day and Test Caption Misbah ul Haq, Never want to remove Shoib Malik from any format of team. I don't know why but the only reason came in my mind is because Shoib Malik gave them chance to play in the team when he was caption. Now for Imran Farhat, every one know about him but again why these Captions ( Misbah and Hafeez) want to play that guy ? This is a national team not a domestic or regional team even in these teams a honest person should not impose his friends and ignore those guys who came in selection with their performance. In last due to the horrible selection of these 2 guys, in my opinion Misbah as well as Hafeez should be out from the team and make a caption from bowlers because we have plenty of experience bowlers in the team like Umer Gul, Saeed Ajmal and now Junaid Khan and will provide chances for young players as a batsman.

  • on June 11, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    I don't understand why we have Shoaib Malik and Imran Farhat in the team? Why did we drop Asad Shafiq - the most promising batsmen as per Misbah? The bunch of tainted cricketers like Malik, Akmal, Farhat, Wahab, Amin and Jamshed rraises eyebrows....

  • Zaid_sl on June 11, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    I am so surprised that some people want razzak,umar akmal,n afridi back in the team.how many chances are we going to give to people who aren't committed n who don't value there place in the team Except for afridi. Let them score n perform well in the domestic. Rather y not select players like Muhammad RIZWAN a good wicket keeping batsmen. Y not SHEHZAD for farhat Y not SHAKEEL ANSAR for shoaib Malik. Y not HAMMAD AZAM for hafeez

  • Syed_imran_abbas on June 11, 2013, 12:28 GMT

    I am very happy to see the performance of Pakistan 2 matches as results were true image of compromise of quality in selection. apart from bowlers only misbah and jamshed deserve to be in team. Hafeez is only value able as being allrounder and he should play further down the order. (1) Nasir Jamshed (2) Ahmad Shahzad (3) Haris Sohail (4) Misbah (5) Umar Akmal (6) Hafeez (7) Muhammad Rizwan (8) wahab riaz/ anwar ali/asad ali/ ehsan adil (9) Ajmal (10) junaid (11) irfan..... (12) Asad Shafeeq

  • on June 11, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    First of all Pakistan have a problem with producing natural batsmen. Secondly I am baffled by the selection. What does Kamran Akmal have to do to get kicked out? Why is Umar Akmal not in the team? Why is Afridi out of the team? Why is Razzaq out of the team? There is a guy who has been playing his cricket in English conditions for a decade now why is he (azhar Mahmood) not in the team? Are you telling me Umar Amin is better than any of these options? How many chances is Imran Farhat going to get? This is the most idiotic selection I have seen from Pakistan. When people were talking about Pakistan being favourites I saw their batting line up and thought they would struggle.

    Lastly, the problem is in the mindset of our batsmen and that is down to the coaching staff, captain and management. They all appear confused, too negative to the point that it completely incapacitates them. Yesterday I saw them miss out on boundary balls because their mindset was to pick up singles and not get out.

  • GreatWhitePathan on June 11, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    The batting has been a disgrace and the selectors are squarely to blame for this debacle. Firstly, they selected a squad for the champions trophy with only ONE extra batsman, THREE extra bowlers and NO extra all-rounder. That is an absolute JOKE! How on earth can you select a squad with only one extra batter despite the obvious batting weaknesses is totally mind boggling!!!

    To make matters worse, the composition of the batting line up is completely wrong. Hafeez, Jamshaid, Shafiq, Misbah, Umar Amin, Shoaib Malik are all cut from the same cloth, all play in a similar fashion and score at a generally slow rate. There is NO variety in the batting ,there is no one who can change the tempo of the innings, there are no innovators, risk takers. It lacks firepower, flair and bravery. This is the exact reason you need players like Umar Akmal, Afridi and Razzaq in the side.

    As for those who criticise Misbah's style of batting, they have no understanding of cricket

  • on June 11, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    You cant win a game if you have one bad player in playing eleven and here we have six player out of eleven dosnt deserve to be in the team it is a joke to keep the imran hafeez malik kamran umar amin and even jamsed who after playing 80 odds delivery get out like this knowing the position of the team.

  • blogossip on June 11, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    sorry but misbah's tuk tuk style has become an epidemic. What he plays are more of position salvaging knocks than match winning. How would have Miandad played yesterday. he was also an accumalotor but could raise tempo when he wanted. Misbah tends to gobble lots of balls and then when run rate climbs, inexperienced line up gets exposed. Its ok to bat like this when you are batting first but in a chase you dont want run rate to go above 8. since Misbah gets credit for such knocks, other batters try to emulate him so that they dont get the axe. right now pakistan cricket is more about save your place than winning- cricket or its administration!

  • on June 11, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    score below 250 is gettable we should feel for the guys who got out cheaply they have been playing well as a team for a while hafeez was our number 1 batsman and he has not been firing which is the real reason for our loss we should be patient sa bowling wasnt grt but our batsman had two ordinary days and i know it will change soon we should have won windies game and our all performance havent been that bad and i am happy to see so many positive meassage about misbah the tuk tuk is man possesed but was not given enough support specially by his deputy

  • on June 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    If you have a young opening batsman in shape of Ahmad Shehzad, young batting allrounder Hammad Azam, middle-order batsmen Azhar Ali, Haris Sohail & Asad Shafiq (must be given consistent chance, not drop & then play him), wicketkeeper Muhammad Rizwan who can bat with more solidity than Kamran. Why then selectors & PCB are sticking with Imran farhat, Hafeez, Shoaib malik, kamran akmal and others??? Give these young players a chance & nurture them for World Cup 2015, they have the skill & talent. At last, what's the logic in sticking to Dev Whatmore, and why Woodhill is being selected, Inzimam is far better than him as a batting coach. Another issue is why PCB is arranging Bowling Camps? They must organize Batting Camps immediately . . .At last no vision in PCB think Tank, Intikhab Alam is ruining Pakistan's future Cricket. He must be fired.

  • on June 11, 2013, 9:02 GMT

    Well they keep giving wickets for charity. Very generous the Pakistani batsman are. Misbah and Jamshed to an extent are the only ones willing to occupy the crease. Hafeez and jamshed should be opening and then misbah at 3. This should be the top order. Asad shafiq should be at 4. Umar akmal is a very good striker of the ball and should be in at 5.

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    1.Ahmed shehzad,2. Nasir Jamshed,3. Mohd Hafeez, 4.Haris Sohail,5.Misbah,6.Hammad Azam,7.Kamran Akmal,8.Wahab Riaz,9.Saeed Ajmal,10.Mohd Irfan,11.Asad ALi What About that for a team?????

  • rohan34mca on June 11, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    I am from India & there is nothing more exciting than watching Pakistan playing aggressive cricket on the field. While most of the writers here are blaming Pak batting. I feel the problem is deeper. Following points were clearly missing

    1. Fielding is a huge letdown, take Misbah out & team was clearly lacking in this most important aspect of ODIs 2. Your bowling may be very effective however, It looks like bowlers are bowling without clearly mentioned roles. You may rate Irfan highly but a bowler who gushes out big breaths at the end of his 2nd over is has lost the battle. Quicks have to learn it is not about bowling quick every time. It is about taking wickets mainly by out thinking the batsmen 3. I see only one problem in batting Lack of roles, Misbah should have asked someone to hit while he holds one end, It is impossible for one batsman to do both 4. Leadership - I feel Afridi is the best captain you have. He is shrude & cunning. I still feel you will perform well against INDIA

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on June 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    Pakistan has to stop being obsessed with Farhat and Malik. Just because Mailk's favourite pastime is scoring 100s against India it doesn't make him a world class bat. He might be OK for a T20 but certainly not for ODIs and Tests and in these conditions. When the batting is so weak you might as well throw in the youngsters and hope they come good. The bright side is Pakistan's batting can only get better from here. And one question - was Umar Akmal dropped from the CT team or was he injured? It would be a huge surprise if he was dropped.

  • vswami on June 11, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    I thought they were the favorites for the Champions Trophy 7 days ago. And 7 days later, the batting is an international joke? I think the experts are a joke ..the batting is exactly what it was a week ago.

  • pintu01 on June 11, 2013, 7:11 GMT

    Pakistan need to get read of all the batsmen (except Jamshed and Misbah) and make a new team to start with.

  • Gozunder on June 11, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    Dav Whatmore needs more authority in team selection matters. It's clear that players keep getting picked on influence in Pakistan Cricket, and performing youngsters get overlooked. For someone like Umar Akmal to get dropped in favour of Umar Amin, is nothing short of a sick joke. Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal, Mohd. Hafeez the list of usual suspects goes on. Pakistan missing a game changer like Afridi in this tournament, nothing but bad team selection

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    Why all the hue ha now? The two results were expected considering the team's performances against Ireland and Scotland. Malik, Farhat, Akmal and Hafiz are not new comers. These guys have played international cricket for over a decade now. The failure is that of a system. If you don't excel at anything else as a nation then why expect anything else at cricket?

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    If you're an 'expert' and keep calling Pak team as 'unpredictable', you haven't been watching cricket lately

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    there is a lack of temperament, application and will to stay on the crease for pak batsmen. the problem is more mental than technical. look for level-headed coaches and players in the domestic circuit: younis khan was one but he is not selected unfortunately.

  • Pathiyal on June 11, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    the most unfortunate thing for them is the poor form mohd. hafeez is going thru. it came off at a pretty bad stage. his stable innings would have made a big difference to their score. able and stable batsmen like younus, umar akmal should be brought back ASAP. afridi is also being missed quite a lot...by the team and by the fans.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    Misbah is in some ways this Pakistan teams Jacques Kallis.Jamshed was reasonable ,but the team needed a Younus Khan to fortify it.Wheres Umar Akmal? He averages 38 at a strike rate of 86!Thats about as good as it gets for a middle order batsman.If Pakistan had Younus,Akmal they probably would have beaten S.A or at least shown more intent!

  • somethingdifferent on June 11, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    Pakistani fans and supporters have been shouting from roof top to drop Farhat, Malik, Kamran, W. Riaz, but obviously PCB has a mind of its own which has nothing to do with reason and logic. May be PCB would pay attention to the opinion of renowned writers like you and have a selection committee which is knowledgeable, unbiased and willing to take bold decisions without getting influenced.

  • venkatesh018 on June 11, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    Something should be done to improve domestic four-day cricket in Pakistan. Surely their bowlers deserve it.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:54 GMT

    And yet the usual suspects keep getting picked. So much raw talent in the bowling...such a waste! Every batsman must be sent to England to play league cricket....they wont get any county contracts....then there might be hope. For a start, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq look good. Please banish Inran Farhat and Shaoib Malik...forever!

  • Riz37 on June 11, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Pakistan team selection is very poor when u select players on references over performance then these jokes happened. When you select Imran Farhat over Ahmed Shehzad, Shoaib Malik over Haris Sohail/Hammad Azam/ or even Younus Khan and Kamran Akmal over any other person who can wear gloves and pads and stand behind the wickets laughing without catching the ball and when have bat in his hands scored zero. this is the happening story since last 2-3 years sepcifically under Misbah's Capitancy in limited overs and under Hafeez in t20. As you selected Imran Nazir and Yasir Arafat on BPL performances over the performing Ahmed Shehzad and Hammad Azam in T20 worldcup and lose it.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    Pakistani team can not be underjudged bu few playes ...

    Players like Nasir Jamshed and Saeej Ajmal are game changers

    --Sumit Mahajan

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    Pakistani team can not be underjudged bu few playes ...

    Players like Nasir Jamshed and Saeej Ajmal are game changers

    --Sumit Mahajan

  • Riz37 on June 11, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Pakistan team selection is very poor when u select players on references over performance then these jokes happened. When you select Imran Farhat over Ahmed Shehzad, Shoaib Malik over Haris Sohail/Hammad Azam/ or even Younus Khan and Kamran Akmal over any other person who can wear gloves and pads and stand behind the wickets laughing without catching the ball and when have bat in his hands scored zero. this is the happening story since last 2-3 years sepcifically under Misbah's Capitancy in limited overs and under Hafeez in t20. As you selected Imran Nazir and Yasir Arafat on BPL performances over the performing Ahmed Shehzad and Hammad Azam in T20 worldcup and lose it.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:54 GMT

    And yet the usual suspects keep getting picked. So much raw talent in the bowling...such a waste! Every batsman must be sent to England to play league cricket....they wont get any county contracts....then there might be hope. For a start, Jamshed and Asad Shafiq look good. Please banish Inran Farhat and Shaoib Malik...forever!

  • venkatesh018 on June 11, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    Something should be done to improve domestic four-day cricket in Pakistan. Surely their bowlers deserve it.

  • somethingdifferent on June 11, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    Pakistani fans and supporters have been shouting from roof top to drop Farhat, Malik, Kamran, W. Riaz, but obviously PCB has a mind of its own which has nothing to do with reason and logic. May be PCB would pay attention to the opinion of renowned writers like you and have a selection committee which is knowledgeable, unbiased and willing to take bold decisions without getting influenced.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    Misbah is in some ways this Pakistan teams Jacques Kallis.Jamshed was reasonable ,but the team needed a Younus Khan to fortify it.Wheres Umar Akmal? He averages 38 at a strike rate of 86!Thats about as good as it gets for a middle order batsman.If Pakistan had Younus,Akmal they probably would have beaten S.A or at least shown more intent!

  • Pathiyal on June 11, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    the most unfortunate thing for them is the poor form mohd. hafeez is going thru. it came off at a pretty bad stage. his stable innings would have made a big difference to their score. able and stable batsmen like younus, umar akmal should be brought back ASAP. afridi is also being missed quite a lot...by the team and by the fans.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    there is a lack of temperament, application and will to stay on the crease for pak batsmen. the problem is more mental than technical. look for level-headed coaches and players in the domestic circuit: younis khan was one but he is not selected unfortunately.

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    If you're an 'expert' and keep calling Pak team as 'unpredictable', you haven't been watching cricket lately

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    Why all the hue ha now? The two results were expected considering the team's performances against Ireland and Scotland. Malik, Farhat, Akmal and Hafiz are not new comers. These guys have played international cricket for over a decade now. The failure is that of a system. If you don't excel at anything else as a nation then why expect anything else at cricket?