ICC news July 18, 2011

ICC could use 'timeless' Test for World Championship final


Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, has suggested that the final of the inaugural World Test Championship, which will be held in England in 2013, could be a 'timeless' Test.

Lorgat said that a prestigious event like the first-ever Test Championship final deserved a clear winner. It is why the 'timeless' Test - a match that only ends when one team wins outright - is one of the options being considered by the ICC's think-tank led by general manager and former South African wicketkeeper Dave Richardson.

The latest ICC Future Tours Programme (FTP) comprises a Test league running over four years with the top four teams at the end of each period qualifying for a play-off event. The first play-off is scheduled for 2013, the same year England are due to host the Ashes, and Lord's is the favoured venue for the final. The biggest hurdle the organisers face is a Test that is drawn over a conventional five days of play.

Lorgat said that finding an eventual solution to a draw was still a "work in progress". At a press conference at Lord's Lorgat said: "We've still got to decide how we determine a winner in case of a draw or if the draw will be the end result. I would favour a winner because you want somebody to be a Test champion.

"That is what Dave Richardson and the committee is currently on working on because it is not a good idea to end up with a drawn Test match," Lorgat said. "You have got to determine a winner - whether it is on the first-innings basis, or the runs [scored] in the game - they will come up with a viable formula to determine a winner in case of a drawn Test match. The final may well be a 'timeless' Test. We don't know that yet but we are looking into the mechanics of that. Although looking at the statistics today most of the games have ended in results."

Lorgat said the discussions aimed at settling the issue are ongoing and that he is personally eager that an option is found "before the end of the year".

The 2011 Lord's Test may have been sold out for the first four days but the sparse crowds witnessed during the twin Test series in the Caribbean involving Pakistan and India have brought back the question of overall viability of Test cricket in most parts of the world.

Lorgat was stubborn in his defence of the game and said that the format is not an issue of concern but the general lack of context in Test cricket is. "Bilateral series will have a lot more meaning if you are aspiring or playing towards something at the end. It is what the Test Championship aims to be."

In the past, Lorgat said, ODIs were always promoted in a much more meaningful way than Test cricket and it was one reason the value of one-day cricket had increased in comparison to Tests. "I'm confident that as we produce context in a Championship for Test cricket and we get better contests, as we have seen in the last few series, you will get back the interest and then see what the World Test Championships can do for us. People back winners when they see challenging matches."

According to Lorgat, top cricketing nations have displayed an aggressive brand of Test cricket because, he believes, of their aspiration to be at the top tier of the ICC's rankings. "Already we can see the amount of interest there is on the rankings table. If we look at the moment, between South Africa, England, Sri Lanka, Australia and India, one of those teams would fall out of the top-four."

The ICC also announced the fans' Greatest Test team of all-time, based on 250,000 votes cast on the ICC website, to mark the cricket's 2000th Test which will be played between England and India on July 21. The team included four Indians and some notable absentees like Garfield Sobers and Malcolm Marshall.

People's Dream XI: Virender Sehwag, Sunil Gavaskar, Donald Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Kapil Dev, Adam Gilchrist (wk), Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath.

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • binojpeter on July 21, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    I don't care about timeless tests. If ICC can ensure at least that minimum 450 overs will be bowled in all tests even if a 6th or 7th day need to be taken when interfered by rain or bad light, that will be highly appreciated by a Test Cricket fan like me.

  • on July 21, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    this is a good idea but how will tv be able to show it how willl players manage the strain what will the dates of the matches will be

  • gmoturu on July 20, 2011, 23:04 GMT

    the above selection is obviously biased, and i am an indian myself

    my XI

    hobbs, gavaskar, bradman, tendulkar, viv richards, sobers, gilchrist, akram, warne, ambrose, malcolm marshall. 12th man hadlee.

  • on July 20, 2011, 22:51 GMT

    Kapil in dream team ahead of Sobbers, Imran, Headlee, Botham??? Joke of the century I must say. I wont right anything, just i will quote a few lines from cricinfo profiles of Imran and Kapil as these lines surely explain the status off all these all rounders. " Kapil Dev was the greatest pace bowler India has produced, and their greatest fast-bowling allrounder. If he had played at any other time - not when Imran Khan, Ian Botham and Richard Hadlee were contemporaries - he would surely have been recognised as the best allrounder in the world. Imran Khan is indisputably the greatest cricketer to emerge from Pakistan, and arguably the world's second-best allrounder after Garry Sobers. Et voila, I let you decide yourself.

  • on July 20, 2011, 21:22 GMT

    My all-time team : Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Kapil Dev, Kumble, Zaheer Khan, Srinath, Bishen Bedi

  • on July 20, 2011, 20:52 GMT

    Sorry , but this all-time team stinks. Some good selections but overall not so good. I agree with Sehwag and Gavaskar opening. One slow , one fast. Bradman never played against the great India so shouldn´t be included. A strong number 3 like Dravid would be awesome. Tendulkar must stay. He is God, after all. Lara was a flat track bully and lacked the personality of Ganguly. Kapil Dev is obvious as all-rounder. Nyan Mongia was probably the best keeper ever. The Indian keepers had to learn on spinning tracks which are more difficult so they are better. Warne could never master India. I would go with Kumble as better spinner on all tracks. I would play two spinners. It was a toss up between Harbhajan and Bedi and Bedi gets the nod. As for quicks, Zaheer Khan is the dominant guy in the modern era and would be great to see him and Javagal Srinath together. This team would beat anyone.

  • jazee on July 20, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @sajansilwal- not agreed!!!!!!1 There is no camparion of Sachin vs Ponting. I understand your mentality, mere bhai, we as pakistani will find every excuse to put down any Indian (in this case Sachin). For that to accomplish, we will go as far as we can. Even praise goras if needed. Bottom line is we are the worst team at this time. India has the the best combination. For playing 20 years for India with consistency do accredited Sachin automatically. Sachin do not need anybody to take a stand for him. He is a unique who have 3 legs to stand!!!!!

  • jazee on July 20, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    I am Pakistani and I love Sachin

    I do not know why people keep saying that whenever Sachin make 100 India lose. Please go and check the stats. 75% of Tendulkar centruries end up win for India. I will look at the other 25% of centuries (that end up in India loss) as the cases where every member of India team failed except Sachin. Please be positive and pay your respect to the legend while you still can!!!!!!

  • on July 20, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    This team is a joke. No Viv? And Kapil Dev wasn't even the best all-rounder of his time, there were three who were way better than him.

    I'd go with Len Hutton, Barry Richards, Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Imran Khan, Alan Knott, Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Malcolm Marshall, Dennis Lilee

    Imran Khan would be the captain.

  • on July 20, 2011, 14:46 GMT

    i do not think Richard Hadlee and Imran Khan are less successful than Kapil Dev.... but still it is good selection

  • binojpeter on July 21, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    I don't care about timeless tests. If ICC can ensure at least that minimum 450 overs will be bowled in all tests even if a 6th or 7th day need to be taken when interfered by rain or bad light, that will be highly appreciated by a Test Cricket fan like me.

  • on July 21, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    this is a good idea but how will tv be able to show it how willl players manage the strain what will the dates of the matches will be

  • gmoturu on July 20, 2011, 23:04 GMT

    the above selection is obviously biased, and i am an indian myself

    my XI

    hobbs, gavaskar, bradman, tendulkar, viv richards, sobers, gilchrist, akram, warne, ambrose, malcolm marshall. 12th man hadlee.

  • on July 20, 2011, 22:51 GMT

    Kapil in dream team ahead of Sobbers, Imran, Headlee, Botham??? Joke of the century I must say. I wont right anything, just i will quote a few lines from cricinfo profiles of Imran and Kapil as these lines surely explain the status off all these all rounders. " Kapil Dev was the greatest pace bowler India has produced, and their greatest fast-bowling allrounder. If he had played at any other time - not when Imran Khan, Ian Botham and Richard Hadlee were contemporaries - he would surely have been recognised as the best allrounder in the world. Imran Khan is indisputably the greatest cricketer to emerge from Pakistan, and arguably the world's second-best allrounder after Garry Sobers. Et voila, I let you decide yourself.

  • on July 20, 2011, 21:22 GMT

    My all-time team : Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Kapil Dev, Kumble, Zaheer Khan, Srinath, Bishen Bedi

  • on July 20, 2011, 20:52 GMT

    Sorry , but this all-time team stinks. Some good selections but overall not so good. I agree with Sehwag and Gavaskar opening. One slow , one fast. Bradman never played against the great India so shouldn´t be included. A strong number 3 like Dravid would be awesome. Tendulkar must stay. He is God, after all. Lara was a flat track bully and lacked the personality of Ganguly. Kapil Dev is obvious as all-rounder. Nyan Mongia was probably the best keeper ever. The Indian keepers had to learn on spinning tracks which are more difficult so they are better. Warne could never master India. I would go with Kumble as better spinner on all tracks. I would play two spinners. It was a toss up between Harbhajan and Bedi and Bedi gets the nod. As for quicks, Zaheer Khan is the dominant guy in the modern era and would be great to see him and Javagal Srinath together. This team would beat anyone.

  • jazee on July 20, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @sajansilwal- not agreed!!!!!!1 There is no camparion of Sachin vs Ponting. I understand your mentality, mere bhai, we as pakistani will find every excuse to put down any Indian (in this case Sachin). For that to accomplish, we will go as far as we can. Even praise goras if needed. Bottom line is we are the worst team at this time. India has the the best combination. For playing 20 years for India with consistency do accredited Sachin automatically. Sachin do not need anybody to take a stand for him. He is a unique who have 3 legs to stand!!!!!

  • jazee on July 20, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    I am Pakistani and I love Sachin

    I do not know why people keep saying that whenever Sachin make 100 India lose. Please go and check the stats. 75% of Tendulkar centruries end up win for India. I will look at the other 25% of centuries (that end up in India loss) as the cases where every member of India team failed except Sachin. Please be positive and pay your respect to the legend while you still can!!!!!!

  • on July 20, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    This team is a joke. No Viv? And Kapil Dev wasn't even the best all-rounder of his time, there were three who were way better than him.

    I'd go with Len Hutton, Barry Richards, Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Imran Khan, Alan Knott, Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Malcolm Marshall, Dennis Lilee

    Imran Khan would be the captain.

  • on July 20, 2011, 14:46 GMT

    i do not think Richard Hadlee and Imran Khan are less successful than Kapil Dev.... but still it is good selection

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 20, 2011, 14:45 GMT

    @sajansilwal: just bacause ponting is out of form in last 3 years, otherwise he would have been best batsman in cricket history, right mate?? Sachin is in good form for past 4 years (as per you), otherwise he hasnt done anything in first 18 years of career, right mate?? he is playing for 22 years just because he is son of President, right mate?? amazing to see such fans who god knows watch which game!!

  • likeintcricket on July 20, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    Imran was not only a great player but he was also a great leader, great role model and a great coach. He missed two years at his peak due to a leg injury just after taking 40 wickets against an Indian side which is arguably the better batting side than the current one. With Gavaskar, Arun lal, viswanath, Vengsarkar, Mohinder Amarnath, Ravi Shastri, Kirmani, Sri kanth, kapil dev, Madan LAL ( batting all the way) he single handedly won the series. Kallis and Sobers are surely better batsman and fielder than him ( Though his average is 51 in the last ten years at #6) but in terms of leadership qualities and a coach for the younger members of the team and worth in a team he is simply the best.

  • Sportsscientist on July 20, 2011, 14:15 GMT

    obviously, with the younger generation....why would the pick sobers or marshall or viv???? anyone under 25 would find it hard to believe the windies could have produced a batsman better than Lara. and they couldn't watch sobers on Sky TV to judge for themselves how good he really was. anyway I thought thiis article was about the world test championship. why aren't there more comments on that????? are all the internet cricket watchers nuts????? are they just only concerned with T20??? why is lara vs viv, or sobers vs kapil dev ( As if there is a case to answer for) more important that the structure of a test championship???

  • on July 20, 2011, 11:46 GMT

    I think Imran khan is a underrated compared to people like kapil and wasim, his stats are much better!!!

  • prozak on July 20, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    sajansilwal - most indians don't like ponting. Therefore he wouldn't get enough votes. these cricket polls are all about population size.

    The question for me is - given the size of the population base and the fact that cricket is the #1 sport (no other country has cricket as #1) - how are Indian underperforming so badly? They should be so good that the dream XI should have 8 good enough to claim a position. All they have is the little master.

  • DDrocks on July 20, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    The problem is not as complex as is being made out to be. Mr. Lorgat and Mr. Dave Richardson may want to consider the following options:

    1. First innings for both teams in present format. Second innings each team gets 100 mandatory overs each. This will ensure results 95% or more in all test matches. Inclement weather should be taken into consideration with 1 extra day as backup (6th day reserve), or the mandatory overs in a rain affected match reduced to 75 overs or 50 overs a saide, as appropriate (decided by the umpires).


    2. About 90 overs a day are bowled in test cricket, making it a total of 450 overs (without weather playing spoilsport). To ensure a result in every game, which will definitely re-popularise Test Cricket, allow a maximum of 225 overs per side. 150 could be the 1st innings and 75 in the 2nd innings would work, or any other combination that works.

    Timeless tests are not the way to go, since a 5-day game is the longest in any form of sport as it were!

  • 9ST9 on July 20, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    just to add something about the Dream XI and the overall comments here - 63.8% of visitors to cricinfo.com are Indian,(9.1 % from Pak, 1.4 % from Aus and Eng and 1.8% from SL ) probably the same would apply to other cricket sites. So actually none of these XI's or polls should be taken seriously.

  • on July 20, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    My Dream Team, sehwag,harbhajan(openar),dhoni,sachin,dravid,kohli,raina,yuvraj,zaheer,nehra,ashwin.

  • SachinLara1 on July 20, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    @Alexk400 : y to harsh on sachin. better look at his stats..u ll find how many of his centuries helped in indian win...there were times when sachin failed india failed.....think before u comment such nonsense

  • sajansilwal on July 20, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    why isn't Ricky Ponting there in the team. Just because he isn't the most likeable cricketer doesn't mean he isn't one of the greats. i don't think people took into consideration the number of matches he has won for australia(unlike sachin tendulkar). just because he has been out of form for about year doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be in that list. it's not about the number of runs you score, it's about when you score those runs. i don't think most people realize that out of his 39 centuries 29 of them have been scored when the team has won the game. sehwag and sachin are there in the team on the basis of their current form not on the basis of what they have done in the past. Also, Ponting is not there because of his current dip in the form. Otherwise, he averaged more than anyone on this list(except Bradman) just about 2 years ago. Sachin shouldn't be great for scoring most number of runs, sehwag shouldn't be great for being attacking batsman. We need to look beyond that.

  • g.narsimha on July 20, 2011, 2:27 GMT

    Those who are claiming IMRAN is better than KAPIL must realise that during thosedays KAPIL aolone bore the burden of INDIAN opnining boling as there were hardly anyclass bolers from other end where as IMRAN always had the luxiries of SARFARAJ in initial stages & later WASIM & WAQAR at other end.SIRBOTHAM& HADLEE had similar luxiries so no more justifications The perfomance wise niether IMRAN nor BOTHAM stands nearto KAPIL heis the winners of 1983 WORLDCUP &CHAMPIONS OF CHAPIONS IN AUS IN1986 where as IMRAN could win the 1992 WORLD CUP as bats man .imagine what could have happened if rainhas not forced the ENGLANDmatch in PAK was allout for 70 odd runs we must give cridit where it due IMRANis slitly better bowler than KAPIL onhisday but thhhhhhhhereicomparision in fielding & batting who can forget his 175 against ZIM & the catch of SIR VIV RICHARDSin final reg. SACHIN just see the coments from LARA he said SACHIN is best batsman & iclusion of SMG& SAHWAG is perhaps arguable

  • willmot on July 20, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    Sachin may just sneak in at no.5 but can't see any other Indians coming anywhere near this team. Anyone who watched Richards can't seriously dispute there's been no better batsman since & this is the view of those professionals who played with and against him.

    Hobbs,Greenidge,Bradman,Richards,Lara,Tendulkar,Sobers,Imran,Gilchrist,Warne (or Murali),Ambrose,Mcgrath

  • CollisKing on July 20, 2011, 0:18 GMT

    SIR VIVIAN RICHARDS - the greatest batsman to walk this earth.

  • on July 19, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    In the spirit of INTERNATIONAL Cricket Council, maybe it would be more profitable to come up with an all-time XI with at least one player from each of the top 8 Test playing nations (Sorry Zim and Bang: you still need to produce some greats, although I was tempted to include Andy Flower as keeper). I'll post mine shortly. Must include one player each from England, West Indies, South Africa, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Australia, and New Zealand. And designate your captain as well.

  • HISXLNC on July 19, 2011, 20:04 GMT

    @ vikram1705: very well said, albeit tongue in cheek

  • on July 19, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    Coming up with an all time XI is bound to cause trouble. But this list certainly seems skewed toward India and Australia, yet that's probably where most of the cricket fans are, so it's no surprise. e.g. Sehwag and Gavaskar are both greats, but the two greatest openers of all time?

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 19, 2011, 19:53 GMT

    My All time dream 11 M. Vijay, Parthiv Patel,L. Simmons,kapugedera, kamran akmal(WK) , Ravinder Jadeja(Captain),Marcus North, Sreesanth,Harbhajan, Bedi, Venkatapathy Raju.

  • pradeep_dealwis on July 19, 2011, 19:45 GMT

    The Finals in ENG eh? Imagine it raining for 5 days straight. Also obviously lots of Indians voted for that Dream Team. Sehwag. Seriously.

  • Alexk400 on July 19, 2011, 19:43 GMT

    Sachin in XI? that is funny. He never played for the team. He is for himself. He should not be part of any team. he never won or contributed to any win.

  • Yorker_ToeCrusher on July 19, 2011, 19:18 GMT

    Most peopel who are commenting against Kapil Dev have not seen him play or seen his records.He got most of his wickets on the tough spin friendly subcontinental wickets and was good with bat.He is easily better than Botham and Imran.Imran had a better last 10 years,but overall he is not greater than Kapil.With a strike rate of 82 in test cricket and 2 of the fastest tripple centuries ever scored in Test history,Sehwag will have a place in an all time eleven once he retires.I would like to see Marshal in the team.He is a certainty in any team.

  • ggsg on July 19, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Veru has been consistent with bat ave 53+ overall and at away he has 46 matches at average of 48.56 and scored 3691 runs 48+ average is very good average by any standards even by experts at home he has better average 58+. The point i is goin to be hard to choose11.

  • ggsg on July 19, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    Anyway it would be hard to pick best 11 players for dream test team. As players from different era have to be compared. but Don Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Viv Richards, Garry Sobers, Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, and Richard Hadlee should make it to playing 11, Imagine this team wow

  • stambake on July 19, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    instead of thinking timeless test, i think ICC should think a result in a test match... as playing for 5 long days.. there is no guarantee of results in test matches... ICC should think about the promotion/ popularity/interesting of game by implementing some new rules.. for example : day night test.. there is no need of thinking in "timeless" matches... after playing on playing for timeless ..it is rediculous....

  • ggsg on July 19, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    My best 15 member test team Sunil Gavaskar, Gordon Greenidge, Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Garry Sobers,Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee, Adam Gilchrist, Shane Warne, Malcom Marshal, Jack Kallis, and Wasim Akram.

  • Bill.W on July 19, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    I always like the concept of having a "dream team" being picked, but my thought is why pick just one, pick two. Reason behind picking 2 is so you will be able to justify the bowlers and batsmen better for each team, eg. team above has Sewag and Gavaskar opening the batting, but if team 2 had opening bowler like Marshall and Holding, would they be able to score more than if team 2 had Vaas and Roberts .. hopefull y u get where i am going with this, 2 teams would mean a lot more thoght process going into picking each team rather than just picking 2 good opening batsmen and the same applies to the bowlers. ... just a thought!!

  • Charindra on July 19, 2011, 17:46 GMT

    The dream team is a joke for a few reasons. 1. All the players have played in the 80's except for Bradman, whose record is so amazing that even people who've never seen him automatically vote for him. 2. No Garfield Sobers, arguably the greatest all rounder ever. 3. No Muralitharan, the greatest bowler in history. Obviously he doesn't get in because SL has a small population and only a small percentage of the population has internet access. Sad but true. So yes, a fan's dream team, and the big countries always rule.

  • vikram1705 on July 19, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    My all time eleven : Lalchand Rajput, Vikram Rathore, Mohammad kaif, Praveen Amre, Vinod Kambli, Suresh Bedade, Roger Binny, Madan Lal, Venkatapathy raju, Venkatesh Prasad and Sreesanth. Viv Richards and Gary Sobers will carry the drinks. Jai Hind!

  • Gowthaman on July 19, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    As much as I understand people rooting for Sobers in the place of Kapil, I really find it bewildering that most actually consider Kapil a lesser player than Imran or Botham. His statistics as a batsman and a bowler speak for themselves and they are definitely ahead of Imran or Botham...not to forget the fact that he acquired most of those wickets in the featherbeds of India. Ironically, the very same people seem to question Sehwag's inclusion claiming that he scores heavily only in the featherbeds of India. It is a different matter that he has done it all over the world and he is the only test player today who can terrify any bowler even before a ball is bowled, regardless of the nature of the pitch. Anything to do with due recognition being accorded to an Indian player, it has to be a BCCI conspiracy or owing to a large contingent of keyboard happy Indian fans... Speak of double standards and varying yardsticks.

  • ggsg on July 19, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    It is amazing that people keep forgetting and undermine kapils achivement he was one of the best swing bowlers both inswing and out swingers and infact he has taken wickets in all kind of surface. And prety dawn good in field and bat.

  • on July 19, 2011, 17:24 GMT

    In the world everything is changing. So, why not to change some rules in Test Cricket & as a whole in Cricket? Timeless Cricket will be boring, absurd and non-profitable. If need a clear winner or champion, then after draw result, you just add the 6th day... Like football champion with penalty result, make it in 6th day with 20 overs per innings, and if no result yet (tie), then go 6 balls for each team, 6 batsmen against 6 bowlers per 1 ball, rapid changing team after every ball (12th man can field, so time loss for the next batsman); no result yet... go to 7, 8, 9, 10 and so on to get a clear winner. Don't want to add 6th day, after draw result, go directly for 6 ball result system. At least, this system will bring to ICC a colossal revenue from the last day ticket selling.

  • on July 19, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    People Deam XI is solid and sweltering but i doubt how cum none of players from srilanka/SA not included..... i guess limited place for these equally talented players . . .soo in my view we shud also have People XI B team( players mostly from this decade) . . . .with likes of Ricky Ponting, Graeme Smith, H Amla, Rahul Dravid, V Laxman, K Sangakara,M Yousuf, S Chanderpaul, M Boucher, A kumble, M Murli,Vettori, D steyn, B Lee, S Akhtar. . . .I knw there are still lots of talented names who have proved time and time again what they have contributed to the world Test Cricket....Just Publishsing one team wont make justice to the game. There should be another team who can equally stand next to the golden Boys.!!Cheers

  • mikeindex on July 19, 2011, 16:48 GMT

    Nooooo!! What are these idiots thinking? Have they never heard of The Oval 1938, or Durban 1939? Timeless matches are the death of proper cricket. The time limit forces teams to attack if they want to win, makes captaincy a skill and challenge beyond anything else in sport outside chess (is that a sport?), rewards heroic rearguard actions (e.g. Mackay/Kline 60-1, Lee/McGrath 05), produces wonderfully satisfying no-results equally fair to both sides (Lord's 63, Oval 79), creates a tension beyond anything in any other game. Here's a radical suggestion. If the final of the WTC is a draw let the teams share the trophy! If one team is 300 behind with 9 wickets down at the close, so be it; everyone will know who had the better of the match, and one captain learns something about timing declarations. It's still a draw, and a draw is a draw. Tests and series can be drawn. Why not a Test championship? If the draw is redundant so is Test cricket, FC cricket, traditional club cricket.

  • RunScorer on July 19, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    I think the best venues to play the timeless test are: WACA, Perth - Sabina Park, Jamaica - Lord's, England - MCG, Melbourne - SCG, Sydney

  • enigma77543 on July 19, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    This "Test Championship" is another joke by the ICC, I agree Junaid Younis, this is further degradation of Test cricket. --- If ICC & Lorgat just want Test cricket & bilateral series to have more "meaning" & keep Test cricket healthy & competitive for the sake of viewers then why not make Test-status flexible? Set a points-range from the 1st ranked team, the teams that finish with enough points within the range, retain their Test-status while others are relegated & they must fight it out with top Associate nations in an annual or bi-annual 4-day tournament to win back their status while Associate doing really well would also have incentive to perform & taste the Test-cricket. This is what's needed to keep the traditional teams from taking their Test-status for granted, with this system every Test will have meaning.

  • prozak on July 19, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    Shunmugam609 & pravinh.

    It's simple math. India can out vote any other country. Tendulkar is the only indian with a claim to being in the best xi.

  • RunScorer on July 19, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    Why is Kapil Dev in there when all rouders such as Jacques Kallis, Garry Sobers, and Imran Khan are left out?!!! These 3 are without a doubt the 3 best all rounders!!!!!

  • ggsg on July 19, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    my best 13 member test team Sunil Gavaskar, Gordon Greenidge, Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Garry Sobers,Ian Botham, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee, Adam Gilchrist, Shane Warne, Malcom Marshal.

  • ultimatewarrior on July 19, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    looking upon the comments and fight between the cricket fans for not founding the players from their personal preferences in final XI, i want to say something.....why they did not voted on the ICC website and now crying foul here....also if even they all voted they should accept sportingly that these XI is most popular in the world...since it doesn't have players from some countries, that entirely means that either cricket is not much popular their or they do not found some appreciable player. Further its not the cricket fans fault to do not have knowledge about players before 70's, older people do not vote......

  • chrisgus on July 19, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    Dev and Sehwag? lol. That is actually quite funny

  • on July 19, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    if all non indians and non australians have problem they should have voted if u can comment on cricinfo u could have voted to ur fault we have voted what we like the most

  • geevee97 on July 19, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    i dunno y when it comes to india alone, the No.1 ranking is questioned.. when australians were at their peak for more than 10 years(since 1996), indians have won more tests against each other than them.. does it mean they didn't deserved to be no.1 then.. does losing to england in england question their no.1 ranking.. then what about england who haven't proved yet in India.. Indians have done well against all opponents since 2004.. better than any other side.. and also everywhere.. had it not been for the infamous sydney test match (which India should've won had 50% of the wrong decisions been corrected)

  • Cruzan on July 19, 2011, 15:51 GMT

    @ Iftikhar, yes, we all know you love India as it is evident from so many similar mails and we have not taken any offense but sorry to disagree with you, bcz if the fans choose, ( see the comment of MiddleStup here ) we will still disagree and nothing is right till what we wish and desire come around. Nice guys...huh...cricket is nolonger played as cricket. Being educated, we also need to show the enlightenment, if we have the gutts to come out of personal feelings. Dont get me wrong please, I love Pakistan )

  • OutCast on July 19, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    Where is murali? Shewag?? what da hell??? Kapil dev?? for what?? I'd put Saeed Anwar for Shewag and Marshall for Kapil or even Ian Botham

  • Hassan.Farooqi on July 19, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    @MiddleStump: Just in case you have not noticed, all the greats that India has problems, are not to be seen. Miandad and Ponting (better than Gavasker), Saqlain and Muralidharan (better than Warne), Kallis and Imran Khan (better than Kapil Dev) etc. What the heck? Even the knights did not make it. Sir Gary Sobers, Sir Viv Richards, Sir Richard Hadley, Sir jack Hobbs, Sir Len Hutton, Sir Ian Botham to name a few.

  • AFZAL-AHMAD on July 19, 2011, 15:33 GMT

    i would suggest that the both innings can be restricted to 130 overs each so that an oppertunity can be created to get result of every test match this will bring a lot of intrest for the spectators.

  • ultimatewarrior on July 19, 2011, 15:31 GMT

    Very good decision by ICC and very mouth watering match to view for the first time-----the timeless test, ultimate fight between top 2 teams......i am very hopeful that just this particular match will attract the people more than world cup / t20 / ipl finals(on tv)......

  • Sandmate on July 19, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    There are 4 Australians in this list.... I think the list has been chosen by the guys Down Under!!!

  • RamShankarS on July 19, 2011, 15:26 GMT

    Well, this being the case, any "timeless" test or the final of the Test Championship in the future should NOT be played in FLAT or dead PITCHES like the SSC, Colombo or many like that in India. We don't want to see a score of 600+ decl. by the team batting first and the second team scoring 800+ without working hard for those runs. Pitches like this don't give any chance for the bowlers to perform or execute their plans. Test Championship should be played on pitches that have some substance.

  • on July 19, 2011, 15:21 GMT

    The Timeless Test is probably not a good idea. But, I think some commenters here would do well to know that timeless Tests used to be the norm. But, that was a long time ago. I think they just need to take measures to ensure that weather and bad light do not ruin the game. If the two teams that make it to the final don't have the guts to go for a win, then they don't deserve to be champions anyway.

  • pravinh on July 19, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    why is everyone against INDIA...the reason why there are 4 Indians in the team is because they deserve it...no offense to the other great cricketers but one has to accept the fact that these guys deserve to be in the all time great XI team..This is not due to India's domination on world cricket or their powerful BCCI..it purely because these players have proved themselves at the highest level..just accept the fact and move on guys..

  • on July 19, 2011, 15:16 GMT

    Lara being selected ahead of Richards surprises me. Also, all the bowling selections except Shane Warne looks a bit foolish. Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath being selected ahead of the likes of Lillee, Marshal, Murali, etc :) Also, Sobers for Kapil Dev will do justice to the talent that Sobers possessed. With such great batsmen in the line up, is there a need to select a wicket keeper for his batting abilities ?

  • Sandmate on July 19, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    How about using T20 as a tie-breaker in the event the Test ends in a draw? It will be interesting to see how the test teams devise team selection strategy if this were the case. As for the ICC greatest team, think guys having laurels have made it. After all, Sehwag has 2 triple centuries against opponents like Pak & SA, Gavaskar has remained not out in West Indies, no one can question the geniuses of Don & Tendu, players are yet to break Lara's records, Gilli's a gifted stroke maker, which makes him a very dangerous w/k batsman, Kapil held the record of highest no. of wickets for a long time, Warne's to bowling what Tendu's to batting, Akram practically invented Reverse swing... Ambrose & McGrath.. now which batsman, including the ones in this list would want to face these guys!!! Dravid, Laxman, Viv et al are/ were good.. but these guys have been the best!!

  • shunmugam609 on July 19, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    I am wondering why these many people are criticizing the dream team, why havent these people voted for those players.

    People are criticizing that many people have voted from India and its population- I dont understand what is wrong with that. if needed why doesnt your country vote for your favorite cricketers..

  • on July 19, 2011, 15:00 GMT

    test championship.....they must find an alternative way for the degrading status of test matches....series like ashes have kept the spirit up...but still bringing in championships for tests is not the solution

  • Scgboy on July 19, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    Trouble with picking dream teams , it all depends on whose doing the dreaming.:)

    That said,best all rounder is for sure Garry sobbers , five bowlers in one.Just look who was voted in wisden's team of the last century along with how many votes he garnered.That was done by experts.He go 80- 90% of the vote and Bradman 100% nuff said.

    Openers -- sewag is brilliant , but better than Hobbs and others? i don't think so.Sunny i could see. Middle order- mmm No viv ?? Bowlers , you need your liilies marshal and the like.

  • Bollo on July 19, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    @indianzen. Dennis Lillee a chucker? I pity your ignorance.

  • SiddhantSwaroop on July 19, 2011, 14:25 GMT

    2 words- Unleash Dravid! That guy can bat for months!

  • Aussasinator on July 19, 2011, 14:23 GMT

    This is a very difficult team to select even for experts. Bias is bound to step in. We have to segregate eras or else it can never be accurate. Difficult otherwise to imagine Gary Sobers, Viv Richards and Malcolm Marshall not in the team. Kapil Dev should have been out of this team in any case.

  • on July 19, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    The Test Cricket championship program should be constituted as five days for one match with four innings. Each inning should be restricted to 100 overs only. Therefore one match will be of total 400 overs. One team should play 200 overs in two innings. 90 overs to be bowled in a day. There should not be Power plays and field restrictions. A team has to use minimum five bowlers out of which three main bowlers will be allowed 22 overs each in an inning, so their total overs will be 66 overs and remaining 34 overs will be divided between weaker bowlers. Follow on rule should remain as it is currently applied. UDRS system should be used in its full capacity and review quantity should be doubled per inning. In bad weather condition a new DLS formula should be developed. If possible do not use DLS formula. It is better to add one extra day for a match result. I am disappointed with ICC all time Test Team player names. It shows how much Indian and Australiam Boards have influence on the ICC.

  • kazungtr on July 19, 2011, 14:00 GMT

    where's Sharukh khan & Amitab bachchan y didnt they in the ICC & indians tennis ball dream XI

  • likeintcricket on July 19, 2011, 13:51 GMT

    @half-tracker: When a billion people from a single country cast their vote what could you expect. Imagine Viv Richards, Barry Richards, Graeme Pollock, Greenidge,Hayden, Imran, Ponting, Kallis, Hedlee, and so many other players missing out. Its could be an Indian Dream Team not People's. Timeless Test is an option when it is played on a Sporting wicket. On some of the wickets even first innings could take up 5 days. Outright victory in a test is the best option but we can restrict the first innings to 150 overs. As there are so many factors involve in a Test match it could be played on a series basis( Like NBA) rather than one final only.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 19, 2011, 13:51 GMT

    @Iftikar Zaruk Oh please no more india bashing. If you look at the comments here too most of them are from indians conceding the fact that majority of the votes came from india which is not our fault. As for the timeless test i seriously wish ICC would conduct one and make a fool of themselves again (as they did with these meaning less polls). They should rather conduct this timeless test in one of the flat pitches in subcontinent then invite INDIA and SL and see how it goes. We will see teams scoring 1000s and thousands and people will loose interest and finally test cricket will die. SHAME on you ICC.

  • TRAM on July 19, 2011, 13:43 GMT

    Ideas to make Test cricket interesting - even if it is timeless one: 1. Make one end of the wicket highly fast bowler friendly and the other end highly spinner friendly.

    2. Introduce a rule: If a batsman plays 6 consecutive dot balls he is OUT. If a batsman plays 3 dot balls in a over's 4th, 5th & 6th deliveries, the next time he faces he has only 3 balls within which he has to score a run.

    3. Reduce the run-up distance to 10 yards maximum. It is real stupid and waste of time to run a mile to deliver one ball.

    4. Allow chucking.

    5. Remove lbw rule and add 4th stump. (instead of 3 stumps).

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 19, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    @Saffalicious " If Kallis, Hobbs, Viv Richards, Ponting, Khan and Sobers were Indian, they would have walked this side, at the expense of all those selected."

    Thats not the only requirement the indian public should have heard them atleast once. For instance not too many youngsters have heard about Hobbs. If ICC has any sense it should never conduct this kind of "ALL TIME GREAT" Polls for public. They should rather take the opinion of the people who are involved in cricket.

  • harshizzle5 on July 19, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    I think icc should make it a knockout trophy with all test teams participating. The bracket could be made basketball style based on the test rankings and the tests will have to have a winner based on first innings lead. The final could be timeless if really needed.

  • kazungtr on July 19, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    where s Sharukh Khan & Amitab Bachchan y didnt they in the ICC & Indians Tennis ball dream XI.

    whrer s Greatest Viv richards,Sobers Kallis Murali Ponting Hobbs

  • simonviller on July 19, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    Time is on our side ,but a timeless test no ! With the amount of cricket being played these days ,this seems unconscionable to ask teams to play this sort of game . Just imagine India just leaving West Indies to play this present series on such a short turn around . Are they going to cut back the scheduling year round to compensate for such a final ,for the benifit of those players who happen to be on the final teams ? Who in hell would want to see batsmen bat on for days without any ugency to score ? THat's what would hapen most likely in most cases .

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    Dear ICC. Excellent suggestion by ICC - timeless test .. wow.

    Heres what i think they should do for the timeless test - which should be played in the old fashioned gentlemanly spirit.

    1. All batsmen with career strike rate greater than 40 should not be in either team.

    2. As not many people are likely to turn up to watch, ICC should pay spectators to watch the match. 3. Still if no one turns up then convicts in jail due for the gallows should be given the option - watch the entire timeless match - every ball if you want to escape the gallows. I am sure many will prefer instant death to this slow torture, so random people can be caught using the stupefy charm and then threatened by death eaters to see every ball. <random attempt at humor>

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    gary sobers and imran khan are away better than kapil dev but this was the which was selected by people and most of the people who vote are indians because indians population is more than rest of all cricket playing nation. you have sunil gawaskar but no Sir viv richard, kapil dev but no sobers or imran, Disgusting

  • aussiecricketbuddha00 on July 19, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    As with any all time team, its all about personal preference. Some people would love sehwag and gilchrist in the team because of there attacking strokeplay and big scoring capabilities while others might prefer a Hobbs or Kallis. If it was my XI i would have 1. Sehwag 2. Hayden 3. Bradman 4. Tendulker 5. Sobers 6. Imran Khan 7. Gilchrist 8. Hadlee 9. Warne 10. McGrath 11. Murali with an extended squad of Gavaskar, Ambrose, Pollock, Kallis, Lara and Viv Richards. The only qualm i have with them is i have no one who can throw little offies if somehow the other bowlers can't break a partnership in the intergalactical all time championship game. Maybe Mark Waugh can run the drinks.

  • shillingsworth on July 19, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    @rahulcricket, the point about Sehwag is his record outside Asia where he averages 39, as opposed to his average in Asia of 61.

  • ac_cricket on July 19, 2011, 13:16 GMT

    This is a nonsense dream eleven, based on the primarily subcontinental formula of playing only 4 specialist bowlers. The team won't have enough penetration against a similarly balanced and batting heavy unit. In my opinion the opening slot is best shared by Hobbs and Greenidge. Bradman Tendulkar, and Gilchirst are fine, while I will have Sobers in the place of Lara. Three speedsters in Lillee, Holding and Akram, and Murali and Warne for the turners.

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    With No single Sri Lankan player, and with no decent world cricket representation! is ICC bending backwards just to be in the good books of India!? (No offence, we love India).. It may be a cricket fans selection, the one who compiled seems highly biased, or had no criteria just to let the fans to choose, (put together all cricket playing nations and of Indias, if not enough put cricket fans of India's and of rest.. Can we just let the fans to choose?? ). A Test championship in my opinion will only have a downward trend and we may lose fanbase especially in Island nations where population and the fanbase is less, West Indies ODI WorldCup is a classic example. Cricket needs equal represenation.. We'd all love test cricket if we had all the time to sit and watch, pls dont let cricketfans to look for an alternative sport... ICC its time to take the U-turn.. or change the baton.. Just for the love of this genlemen's game, hope this get digested in good spirit..

  • qdetty on July 19, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    In my opinion, this ICC team doesn't fit the title "fans' Greatest Test team of all-time". Lot of players are left out who should be in. Looks like most of the respondents are Indians.

    ~Dissappointed Indian~

  • ahassan on July 19, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    Timeless test is like going a step backwards and if it has to be done then why the final only. Any potential winner can be eliminated in the semi finals or quarter finals in a drawn match. As far as the dream team is concerned it sure is a team selected by 90% of indian voters. Many of the greatest players have been left out. To name a few Sir Gary Sobers, the greatest all rounder of all time, Muralidharan, the only bowler to take 800 test wickets, Sir Viv richards, Imran Khan, Sir Len Hutton, Sir jack Hobbs, Wally Hammond, Greg chappell, Barry richards, Jack Kallis, Sir Richard Hadlee, Denis Lillee, Malcolm Marshall and many others. ICC should have taken expert opinion while selecting a dream team.

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    why everyone so jealous?its not our fault if we use more internet...u shud've voted earlier...no point crying now!!!

  • _MiddleStump_ on July 19, 2011, 13:06 GMT

    huge surprise... no munaf patel or agit agarkar on the team???.. come on indians... i expected more from you guys!

    a test team with out barry richards, murali, viv richards and ponting is a joke.. but again you can't take this too seriously as one of the commenters mentioned that out of the 250,000 votes... 80% probably were indian...

  • anurag4u10 on July 19, 2011, 13:03 GMT

    i totally agree dat the heavy size of indian fans has huge impact over d team dat got selected, however i still debate dat tendulkar and gavaskar (and possibly sewag too) wud hav made it had it been selected by a professional jury. kapil's inclusion surprised me nd his place wud hav gone to either kallis or botham. i feel sorry for murlitharan for nt making it to xi jz bcoz compared to oder playin nations sl fans are very low (off course bcoz d country size). we shud agree to d fact dat jz lyk sachin is for battin , murali is 4 bowling . 800 wkts in itself holds an entry tkt inside d team. rest 4 me seems fine

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    thats not peoples dream XI..thats India's Dream XI

  • on July 19, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    Yeah i agree with so many.. VIV should have been there and there were so many ahead of Sehwag. Gavaskar, Sachin, Lara were best choice and Gary Sobers or Richard Had-lee should have been included.Gilly, there is no any other player as equal as him in WK. In bowlers, i wondered as there is no any pace/fast bowler(Marshal, Holding, Robert) from WI except Ambrose. Shane and Murali equally shares spin place, both are great. Of course, can't ignore McGrath, Wasim, Ambrose..according to me, it should have been 15 members team and then can pick 11 players. Really not a best choice of World best test team.

  • jonfox6020 on July 19, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    top 4 teams. Does this mean, that when this kicks off, all the current teams will start with 0 points?

  • MAAMBA on July 19, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    Manish pandey and Robin uththappa deserved to be in that list

  • devu73 on July 19, 2011, 12:52 GMT

    I am Indian and I do agree with many comments about inclusion of Kapil & Shewag, they are biased inclusion. Viru is phenomenal but has scored against ordinary bowling most of time..(Generation of WI pace battery or W&W pairing for Pakistan is real test). So opener could be SMG & Hobbs.Without any doubt, Sobers or Botham will make to the list in place of Kapil.(Personally he is my most favorite after SRT), they were more penetrative, genius and true all rounder who can be part of any team either as best-man or bowler. Kallis may lose on effectiveness or need. When you have SMG & Hobbs as opener, Sir Don,SRT & Lara in middle order & Gilly the great as 7th best-man, you need not have any purist. Sir Gary can replace any three in middle order and almost any of the bowler. Thats my 2 cents.

  • Babb_N on July 19, 2011, 12:49 GMT

    I hate these "draw" in test matches. I Suggest each team should get to play only 225 overs over 2 innings (125 +100 or as they choose at the time of TOSS). If any team gets all out before its allocated overs, other team gets bonus overs which is the remainder of the allocated overs. For example Team A choses 100+125 format, Team B choses 150+75 format. Team A bats first, gets all out in 80 overs. Team B gets 20 bonus overs to be used either in 1st or 2nd innings. If Team B gets all out within 150 overs, they forfeit bonus overs. Every wicket carry bonus of 10 runs added to bowling team. The winner is the team that has scored maximum NET RUNS. Come on fella's, add some more spice, get super test movin...

  • indianzen on July 19, 2011, 12:42 GMT

    Its really a dream team... Good to see no Chuckers like Murali , dennis lileee...However, hard to see no place for Kallis, Gary sobers and Dravid. no mention of who is the captain and the reserves, aye mate Nagraj.. waiting for someone to retire he he he ? There cant be better openers than Sehwag and sunny. Don sachin Gilly and Lara are the best Middle order followed by world's best allrounders Kapil and Akram and Warne the bestest spinner with the inch perfect bowlers like Glenn and ambrose...

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    4 Indians in all time ICC test team make me laugh and i still pondering that why ICC gets biased on each and every matter

  • joseyesu on July 19, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    Considering what I have seen after 1996, I would have prefered Sehwag,Hayden/Anwar/Kirsten, Ponting, Sachin, Lara, Kallis, Gilchrist, Warne, Wasim, McGrath, Steyn. This is what I know.

  • KjM4trix on July 19, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    We need a team to play against the Dream Team, Dream Challengers. My Dream Challengers team would be, Barry Richards, Len Hutton, Rahul Dravid, Vivian Richards, Steve Waugh (c), Gary Sobers, MS Dhoni (wk), Malcolm Marshall, Richard Hadlee, Waqar Yunus and Muttiah Muralitharan.

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    When more than 70 overs is wasted, due to rain or other natural phenomenons, one should have an extra day, in Tests Matches.

  • AARON.IFTEKHAR on July 19, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    There should be 4 continentals' dream XI ( not people's dream XI) - Australian, Asian or Sub-continental, European or British & Afro-American....

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:26 GMT

    Imran khan was always a peoples choice, he was the ONLY man who attracted the girls !

  • realnavtej on July 19, 2011, 12:15 GMT

    @half tracker....i'm pretty sure wasim isnt indian... :P....only 4 indians! :D

  • ansram on July 19, 2011, 12:13 GMT

    Sutcliffe,Gavaskar,Bradman,Tendulkar,Richards,Sobers,Glichrist,Imran,Warne, Marshall,Barnes

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    No Sobers and Marshall.... buhahahahahahahahahaha... :D

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:09 GMT

    cricket is not all about averages. Kapil Dev was the best allrounder of his time. Sobers was much before Kapil's time and mind you, till such time as Walsh broke Kapil's record, Kapil was the highest wicket taker in test cricket.Nobody gave him those wickets on a platter, most of which he got while bowling on flat, batsman friendly subcontinent wickets and finally please do not compare Kapil with Imran. Kapil was miles ahead of him in all three departments(bowling,batting and fielding). It is like comparing the Sun(KapilDev) to a candlelight(Imran).

  • AARON.IFTEKHAR on July 19, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    Absolutely bad selection by ICC about People's Dream XI, and not serious. Virender Sehwag should be replaced by Hanif Muhammed or Vivan Richards, Sunil Gavaskar - by L Hutton or WR Hammond, Kapil Dev - by Gary Sobers, Curtly Ambrose - by M. Muralitharan... oh no! where we can place Anil Kumble, S. Gangulee, DK Lillee, Ricky Ponting, Imran Khan, DPMD Jayawardene, Sankara, Clive Lloyds, Kallis and some other great cricketers...

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    Bcz of sehwag India is No 1 position, sehwag & Gilly are match result oriented batsman.specially sehwag in test matches more that 82 strike rate.

  • on July 19, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    where is Kamran Akmal, Salim Malik and Md. Azharuddin! They deserve a place in this f team.. they r the god of cricket...cause they know the result even before the start of the game!

  • half-tracker on July 19, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    5 Indians? No South Africans? Why don't yopu choose Venkatesh Prasad to take the new ball instead of Ambrose? Crazy that Kallis doesn't mke the team...

  • humza_cricketer on July 19, 2011, 11:29 GMT

    i thinlk they should keep it the same ...and if there is rain , badlight or whatever reason and they can't continue the match , they should make up the overs they had lost even if they have to play couple of extra days .

  • Roamer on July 19, 2011, 11:23 GMT

    Little bit baffled, if the ICC Test Championship will be played by the top 4 teams from the ICC Ranking table then why bother having a championship? just follow the table and honour the top team as the champion each and every year. If they really want a championship then they should allow all the teams to participate in it, just like ODI or T20 worldcup ..... all the current decisions taken by ICC are mind boggling, initially they reduced the number of associate teams that can participate in the world cup and now they will not allow the remaining 5 permanent countries to participate in the test world championship ... the role of ICC is to promote Cricket or to confine it to 2-3 countries only. How can Zimbabwe or Bangladesh play in test championship if major teams like India/Australia/England will not host them for the next 10 years so how can they improve their ranking? can someone in ICC please help me understand this????

  • George1123 on July 19, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    There is NO way in hell Glenn Mcgrath is a better bowler than malcolm marshall. LIke comon think about macgrath did not swing the ball and only ev er bowled length and on those very rare occasions hit 140s while Marshall consistently bowled 140s 150s, merchant of swing and bowled the best bouncer

  • KjM4trix on July 19, 2011, 11:10 GMT

    Timeless test. If it is a flat track and the first team scores 750 in 3 days and the second team scores 900 in next 4 days... It is good to limit an innings to a certain maximum number of overs, say 150. They used to have timeless matches in tennis but then they thought tie-breaker was a better option.

  • rahulcricket007 on July 19, 2011, 11:09 GMT


  • on July 19, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    Frankly speaking Kapil Dev doesn't deserve the place in this team. In case of Sehwag its up to individual I think. Either Sobers or Kallis must get the place of Kapil Dev.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 19, 2011, 10:52 GMT

    Where is Ravinder Jadeja in this list? What is this timeless test?Brainless ICC. DO you want to see the repeat of that SL vs india test when Ranatunga did not declare and just played for the records for 3 days? Bowlers will be taken a part. Shame on you ICC.

  • Saffalicious on July 19, 2011, 10:36 GMT

    This is the team you get when 80% of the respondents are Indian fans. I would bet that if you asked Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly, MS Dhoni and Javagal Srinath to select their all time 11, and given that all these are decent cricketers, none of them would select Kapil Dev ahead of Sobers or Kallis. None would select Sehwag or Gavaskar ahead of either Hobbs, Hutton, Barry Richards or even few would select him above Matt Hayden. Even Tendulkar does well to make this team given that you leave the likes of Pollock, Ponting, Kallis, Viv Richards to name a few. Just because he has played for more years than most doesnt mean he is better than everyone, and the stats prove this. If Kallis, Hobbs, Viv Richards, Ponting, Khan and Sobers were Indian, they would have walked this side, at the expense of all those selected.

  • KosalaDeSilva on July 19, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    No Murali? ha ha ha..it si a dream team ..

  • essar54 on July 19, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    1) Timeless Test? - These guys are stupids!!! Rather if they can pick from one of these options, it would make more sense. Readers/Fans, please provide your comments/suggestions

    a) Make the maximum overs that a team can bat as 225 (both innings put together, leaving option for team to decide the how part) Or b) Make maximum overs a team can bat in an innings as ~130-140 (This will negate any advantages with the toss or team batting last) Or c) Make it a mandate that any 3 consecutive drawn test in a ground makes it not eligible to host another test for next 2 years (or in short make the wickets result oriented)

    2) Dream Team is a joke!!! (BTW, I am also from India)

  • on July 19, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    Haha, This is so much funny! Sehwag and Kapil Dev shouldn't be there!! Hobbs and Imran Khan should be there!

  • Zahidsaltin on July 19, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    GAVESKER, BRADMAN, GILCHRIST, MARSHEL AND WASIM AKRAM are the only 5 players who are an automatic choice for any all time world eleven. Then there comes a competition, Tandulkar or Lara or Richards. Imran, Kalis or Sobers. Waqar, Holding, Styen, Hadlee or Lille. Warne or Murali etc. And while making your choices you have to consider playing conditions too. Dead wicket masters should not be prefered over real batsmen of testing conditions and opposition. I will say, Sachin Tandulkar is probabely the only playing batsman who could take a spot in 5 batsmen line up. For many it will be choice, Sachin & Richards OR Lara & Richards to fill 4th and 5th spot. I myself will prefer Sachin & Richards. I am pitty sure of the 10 players I will choose but as ever I am unsure of some one to open with Gavesker. But I am sure that it can never be Sehwag. I think, only 3 Australians can be picked, two of them sure selection and Warne to fight it out.3 pakistanis, wasim a sure and Imran, Waqar to contest

  • SudhyNair on July 19, 2011, 10:08 GMT

    Those who are against Kapil are either born after 1989 and would have been only about 6 when Kapil retired. Sehwag, yes, but it is after such batsmen that Test cricket has got that many results.

  • Markdal on July 19, 2011, 10:03 GMT

    It's not going to matter if it's a timeless Test or not, today's players, with the exception of Dravid, can't bat that long anyway. Better batting strips have coincided with more results, so batsmen don't place as high a price on their wicket as in times of yore. Team suggested in the paper yesterday, hard to argue with - Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, V Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Akram, Marshall, Warne, Lillee.

  • cardassian on July 19, 2011, 10:01 GMT

    not having Viv and Garfield there is disgraceful. definately some dodgy decisions by the fans who picked this team

  • sachin1bradman2 on July 19, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    Viv richards, the orginal master blaster has to be in there. Lara was never as flamboyant and explosive as Viv. Kapil was undoubtedly a great all rounder but what about Botham, Sobers, Imran etc? I'd also put Hadlee ahead of McGrath because he was an equally good bowler, a phenomenally better batsman and a thorough gentleman. All these dream teams etc end up looking quite subcontinentalish since most of the votes emanate from India. I've noticed that the Indian cricket fans are taking the ICC rankings way too seriously, these days. Hopefully, they don't get too self-congratulatory about this team now, because we all know that it doesn't reflect an international perspective on things.

  • PrameshP on July 19, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    Test Championship with timeless final is the fantastic Idea......Salute!

  • ansh316 on July 19, 2011, 9:50 GMT

    I am an Indian but seriously cant fathom Kapil Dev being there, Kallis, Imran were always better choices.Toug Luck for SA fans as Players like Barry Richards,Greame Pollock and Kallis coluld have been easily there.

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Kapil and Sehwag? BAHAHAHAHHAHA! Sobers is far superior than Kapil. For the opener: Hobbs, Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe.

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    well I think vv richards is missing in ICC dream team..

  • Bollo on July 19, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    @`F` July 18th 20.12pm re. `As far as Sehwag, goes, he is the only one having more than 90 strike rate in Test cricket with four 250 score (more than anyone). He was so close to 3 300s (would have broke the Don's record and would have been first batsman with 3 300s). He also has fastest 200, 300 and 100 in test cricket. what else do u guys want.` Perhaps some correct facts might not go astray. 1) Sehwag has a SR of about 81 in tests. 2) Bradman has 5 scores over 250. 3) Viv Richards has the fastest 100 (56 balls), Sehwag not in the top 10 4) Nathan Astle has the fastest 200 (153 balls).

    Not sure why Kapil being the first Asian to captain a WC winning team is relevant here. Imran and Keith Miller average about 7 more with the bat, and 7 less with the ball. Sobers could make the team on his batting alone (ave 57). Even amongst the big 4 all-rounders of his era (Imran, Botham, Hadlee, Kapil), Dev has the worst bowling average and a batting average higher than only Hadlee.

  • anver777 on July 19, 2011, 9:37 GMT

    @antonymo............. like he said certainly some of great players like Murali, Richards, Steve Waugh, Sobers, Clive Lloyd & Imran Khan's names are missing in XI...... They would have selected 2 teams instead of 1......People's XI & ICC XI

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    the only change in my dream team would be Gary Sobers in place of Kapi Devl... No doubt Kapil is great, but no one other than Sobers can be there in the all-rounder quota in any all time test XI... and if you push me me to make another change, i would replace Glenn McGrath with Malcolm Marshall...

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Agree that i was not too impressed with the dream XI. Sir Sobers, Holding/Marshall should be there instead in Kapil & Ambrose

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    See TimeLess test is not a gr8 option even if it is used only for finals as the c'ship will be held in england, where batsmen and bowlers have equal advantage and match should have finished in 5 days at max, and if it results in draw(rare prob) then it means it is batsman favouring so it could go even till 7-8 days,so no point in making it timeless.And even if the case of rain is considered then the ICC should comes with the option of 540 mandatory overs irrespective of rain/bad light.

  • crickstats on July 19, 2011, 9:22 GMT

    Whenever there is a vote on internet, obviously Indians have an advantage, Sehwaq should not have been even nominated and is a disgrace to test cricket, its not the runs that count in tests it is how they are made, Kapil Dev ahead Imran, Sobers, Botham and Hadlee is laughable. when they have opinion polls next time, must consider equal opportunities for everybody

  • howizzat on July 19, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    Loragat Sir, First call for global tenders for good curators. Get a ICC panel of expert curators. Otherwise your World Test Championship will really become timeless. It will go on, on and on.

  • Narkovian on July 19, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    A sign of the times.. we are all getting older. People never lucky enough to witness great names from a previous era 1940s to 1980s will be unaware of players like Sobers, Trueman, Lindwall, 3Ws, Hall, Compton, Harvey,Lillee, Botham, Imran, Barrington, Hanif, .. you could go on and on. But most of those I mention would get in before most of those that are in.. Only in my humble opinion of course ! Sobers is simply the greatest cricketerr to have walked the earth.. my humble opinion of course!

  • Wharfeseamer on July 19, 2011, 9:10 GMT

    Sehwag is a great player, his stats show that. But they also show that he has difficulties against the moving ball. In countries where swing and seam can play a part (SA, NZ and England) he averages only 26, which suggests a real problem for a man who's career average is over 50. Yes he is exciting to watch but that doesn't make him as complete an opening batsman as say Hutton, Gavaskar, Sutcliffe etc. And many of the guys from before the 1960s played on uncovered wickets.

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    young gen r not watching even 5 day test. then why timeless test? I propose the best format not only for final but to ntire tourny. day1, team A plays 90 overs as per test match rules. day 2, teamB plays 90 overs with same rules[means no bowing or fielding restrictions]. day 3 both teams play 45 overs each as per one day formate. who ever scores more they are winners. how is it?

  • howizzat on July 19, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    1.Gorden Greenidge 2.Matthew Hayden 3.Vivian Richards 4.Sachin Tendulkar 5.Clive Lloyd 6.Gilchrist 7.Ian Botham 8.Kapil Dev 9.Shane Warne 10.Micheal Holding 11.Glen Mcgrath. 12.Virendra Sehwag 13.Ricky Ponting 14.Anil Kumble 15.Wasim Akram.16.Jacques Kallis.

  • Somerset-Richard on July 19, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Hmmmm! Interesting "Peoples Dream Team XI", is there a theme here? Surely you don't need Adam Gilchrist when you've got MS Dhoni or Farokh Engineer. Why have you put Lara in your team when you could have replaced him with VVS Laxman? Why pick Don Bradman when you know that you really should have selected Yuvraj Singh? Maybe second rate all-rounders like Sobers or Botham would have sneaked into a Rest Of The World side to face your all-conquering hero Kapil Dev, eh? OK, so I'm trying to be ironic here and I would never argue with the selections of Gavaskar and Tendulkar, they are truly great players. However these polls need to be a bit more objective if players like Sobers, M Marshall, IVA Richards, Hadlee, Botham, Holding, Lillee, Hobbs, S Waugh, Larwood, Ponting, Muralitharan, G Chappell, Compton and WG Grace are all watching from the Members Pavilion!

  • Tom_Bowler on July 19, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    Surely the way to ensure more Tests get a positive result is for the ICC to lean on cricket boards and force them to eliminate the "CEO's wicket", a dead track that guarantees five days worth of beer sales from increasingly bored spectators. Pitches should offer something to the bowlers ideally both combinations of pace and bounce and grip and turn but at the very least one of them. If groundsmen were encouraged to strive for the ideal Test wicket, pace and bounce on days one and two, best for batting on the third day, breaking up on the fourth and fifth, there would be less concern that games would peter out into draws.

  • bigdhonifan on July 19, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    @Hammond Sachin payed again SA in SA... 3 Tests!!

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    to whom complaing about dream team it our vote which has made it not anyoine else if u remember cricinfo test team was totally diffrent from this made by a panel was diffrent so u should have voted

  • on July 19, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    I am sure the votes have been made mostly by Indians and that too those who have followed the game for only the past 20 years. If not how do we explain the absence of South Africans New Zealanders and English men in the team.

  • I_am_Cricket on July 19, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    Vintage greats of the 80s: Hard luck...:(:( Fierce pace of Lilee: better luck next time(:( Modern Aus greats: so sorry:( SL greats who wrote their cric books with stunning scripts: sorry too.:(

    => Such a fancy 11. Still I like this being a crazy Indian Fan.:):)

    Reg the timesless cricket, I am sure this will spoil the spirit of test match interest. Team with dravid's & Laxman's can take the game to may be 10 days (who knows..) & teams with Sehwag's will close the match in 3 days (even winning the match). ====> Will turn up too harsh on the bowlers (esp pacers.).:)

  • hkps on July 19, 2011, 9:02 GMT

    Timeless Tests .............. No Way !!! They were played when players traveled by sea. Play Tests with "WHITE BALL" instead. that is...... day/night Tests.

  • Shafi79 on July 19, 2011, 9:00 GMT

    The highest wicket taker in the history of test cricket didnt make the team ... anybody finds that strange???

  • abhilal2004 on July 19, 2011, 8:56 GMT

    ya! that's a great thing to think about to get a result in test cricket. better they need to divide each innings of the team in to a fixed over like 110+110+115+115 so each of them have a chance to win. About the dream team its quite good enough.

  • trueindian on July 19, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    REAL idiotic stuff!! Kapil Dev preferred over Sobers, Imran, Grace is stupidity. Curtly Ambrose also doesn't quite reach there, although he is a very good bowler! One should have three quicks, out which one attacking all-rounder with good wicket-taking abilities, two world-class spinners, one legspinner and one offspinner. One able wicket-keeper who can demolish the opposition, two solid openers, one for wearing off the opposition and the other to tear apart the bowling (and fielding!) attack. A one-down batsman who is a run accumulator as well as make the innings stable in case of an early wicket. A solid middle-order which will capitalise on the great start and bat out the opposition such that an innings defeat for the opposition is inevitable.

    Hence my All-time Test XI will be: Virender Sehwag, Gordon Greenidge, Donald Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Adam Gilchrist, Imran Khan (or Garfield Sobers), Wasim Akram, Shane Warne, Mutthiah Muralitharan, Glenn Mcgrath. WHAT A TEAM!!

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    how can anyone ever say that glenn mcgrath was a better bowler than malcolm marshall?

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:47 GMT

    Imran Khan or Kapil Dev?????????

  • shyfudeen on July 19, 2011, 8:47 GMT

    One of the outstanding all rounder in the history of test Cricket is Garfield Sobers. He is having tremendous record compared to the others in the all rounder list. He is averaging 58 in the test with more than 8000 runs. Also he has 200 plus wicket. Can you compare this great player with only an Indian Hero Kapil Dev? There were many other all-rounder who is having more talents than Kapil Dev like Jack Kallis, Iam Botham, Richard Hadlee etc. Also one more question on what basis Sehvag is included here. There is no doubt that he is devastating opener in the modern era. But his consistency in batting had been questioned many times. So we want a consistent opener rather we have a destructive opener in once in a while test. Michael Holding, Malcom Marshal, Dennis Lillee, Viv Richards are also deserved in to the list

  • Herbet on July 19, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    Kapil Dev? Kapil Dev? I guess when the poupulation of your country outnumbers the rest of the cricketing world, combined twice, thats what happens!

  • UriGagarin on July 19, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    Yorkshire Dream team Boycott, Trueman. No need for anyone else. The rest of the world would give up before the game started :D

  • Utkaarsh on July 19, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    I think Kapil, is more an emotional choice than statistical, Sobers in place of Kapil, Holding in place of Ambrose, feel bad for Vivan Richards, lara in his place is questionalbe , Dravid missed out (its a test team !!) and lastly i love to hate him Ricky, he is unlucky as well !! warne is by far better tahn Murali, who has majorly bowled in sub-con with helpful"bad 5th day" wickets, Warnie is clear winner, so are Don, Sachin, Gavaskar for his performacen against the WIndies greats, Sewhag has revolutionized test cricket , so the newer generation will vote for him, feel bad for Greenidge

  • Finn92 on July 19, 2011, 8:32 GMT

    Just out of interest what website was this conducted on? There are a few absolute selection howlers, never mind Sehwag what the hell is Dev doing there? Yeah he was pretty good but Sobers IS the greatest all rounder that ever lived. I'll stick with the XI selected by ex-pro's and commentators on this website not a fan picked one.

  • shyfudeen on July 19, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    I am very surprise to see the all time great test team. One of the outstanding all rounder in the history of test Cricket is Garry Sobers. He is having tremendous record compared to the others in the all rounder list. He is averaging 58 in the test with more than 8000 runs. Also he has 200 plus wicket. Can you compare this great player with only an Indian Hero Kapil Dev? There are many other all-rounder who is having more talents than Kapil Dev like Jack Kallis, Iam Botham etc. The selection is absolutely based on the stupid principle and most of the Indians (even I also an Indian) are casted their votes here. ICC has to reselect the team again and it should contain at least Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton(Openers), Don Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Viv Richards or Brian Lara(Middle order), Sobers(all rounder), Gilchrist(Wicket Keeper), Malcom Marshal, Michael Johnson, Dennis Lillee, Shane Warne or Murali(Spinner) Also one more question on what basis Sehvag is included here. There is no dou

  • RunScorer on July 19, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    Where is Viv Richards, Jacques Kallis, Imran Khan, Muttiah Muralitharan???

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    I think the timeless test match is a great idea! If you have 2 top teams playing it...match will end within 5 days anyway.

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:23 GMT

    Where is Kamran Akmal :O ...

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    Where's Allen Border here????

  • on July 19, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    its nt a dream XI...its just a indian looby Xi.....wr is imran khan, murali, kallis, v v richards, Gary Sobers............totally out mind dreammmmmmmmm X1...lol dream XI or ...........

  • Rocket_180 on July 19, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    Timeless test? does sound like a good idea but the ICC need to work on the test game flaws first

    how about the ICC work on getting these things working properly first

    Lets get international overrate back up 15's where they belong, stop losing 10overs a day to poor overrates all over the world

    Lets not let international teams produce flat slow batting tracks and get more pitches that actually have a chance of producing a result

    get these 2 issuessorted the test game would improve massively and tomesless probaly not needed

  • Mr.Bouncer on July 19, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    Dravid, Laxman, Kumble, Ganguly, Zaheer, Srinath and Viswanath should have been included. INDIA RULZZZZ

  • John-Price on July 19, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    I am glad that at last the ICC has faced up to the obvious problem of a possible draw in the final of their test world championship. They will also have to face the reality that whatever solution they come up with may well affect the way the game is played. For instance, if they go for run rates or something of that nature, it means that the game is more like a long over-limit contest than a test match where you can only win by taking 20 wickets. The timeless test idea is silly, especially at Lord's where the wickets seem to last for ever - it could drag on for 7 or 8 days. My suggestion would be that draws be allowed, in which can the number 1 ranking team is declared champion.

  • on July 19, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    My dream 11 Would be ... Vierender Sehwag , Jack hoobs , Don Bradman , Sachin Tengulkar , , jacques kallis , ViV Richards , Adam Gilchrist , Shane warne , Malcom Marshal , Shoib akhtar ( at his fastest ) , Ambrose .

  • on July 19, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    Out of 11, 8 were played/playing in recent 10 years....Nobody Cant skip Don Bradman....Obviously people will remember only those guys. Definetly there is no place for Kapil & Sehwag in this 11.

  • chaitukash79 on July 19, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Huh?! What kind of a dream team does not have one of the West Indies most feared - Holding, Patterson, Roberts, Garner?! Ambrose was certainly a great bowler, but come con, how can you not have at least one of the Fearsome Foursome?!

  • nvmcse on July 19, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    @ For those complaining about the Dream XI, Where the heck had u been when the poll conducted? U guys even didnt know about this.. Why didnt u vote for ur fav players... stop complaining

  • OpenerChinaman on July 19, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    where's Richard Hadlee on there? he's taken the most 5 and 10 wicket bags out of any fast bowler, just imagine his stats if he played as many tests? he did knighted for a reason lol and come on walsh should be in over ambrose. and if u want a real test opener where is len hutton? some votes have to get their priorities sorted ae

  • Muyeen on July 19, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    2 things are very clear from the ICC Fans XI: Lot of Indians use internet and not many in the carribeans above 40 use internet. I am an Indian and a big fan of Sehwag but I dont think he deserves to be there. Kapil Dev above Gary Sobers is strange. Im big big lara fan too but I think Richards should've been there ahead of him from what i hear people say about him. ICC should have selected the team such if the all rounder selected is fast bowler then 2 spinners shud be picked or vice versa. Sobers would have solved that problem. I am Indian in the late twenties. Thats the reason I abstained from voting coz even I would have selected same bunch of people.

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 19, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    PLEASE READ THIS: so many of you commenting against TIMELESS-test, guys, if only you had read the article carefully. it says "You have got to determine a winner - whether it is on the first-innings basis, or the runs [scored] in the game - they will come up with a viable formula to determine a winner in case of a drawn Test match. The final may well be a 'timeless' Test." they are saying, just THE FINAL, FINAL OF WORLD TEST CHAMPIONSHIP will be timeless test, to get clear winner. and as the c'ship will be held in england, where batsmen and bowlers have equal advantage, match wont last more than 6 days at best, rain permitting, and that too if batsmen play too cautiously. no need to think that players will be exhausted, as this will be one-off match, they are not making every test timeless. my goodness so many people commented against it without reading the article properly.

  • on July 19, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    Test cricket, for a purist, is still interesting when completed in five days. A champion is deserved to be called a champion if they can finish off the opposition in 5 days. If both the teams can't do it, then they dont deserve to be called champions. Making it timeless will be the most idiotic thing to do. So every batsman gets a chance to take 100 balls to open yhe account and not get out at all while spectators sleep peacefully.

  • melvn on July 19, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    All the 11 players are greats of their respective eras.Sehwag would definitely be considered as a great once he finishes his career, An 82+ test Strike rate is unprecedented (dont forget his batting average 54). I would like to see Vivian Richards in the 11, garry sobers would have filled the allrounder spot instead of Kapil dev. Sachin,gavaskar,warne,gilchrist& Lara are undisputable selections.( Iam an Indian). Certainly ,any dream 11 would look biased ,there would always be questions like Why no Imran Khan? Why no Kallis?Why noMarshall,Holding,Walsh,Murali,Dravid, Steve waugh,Border,Botham,Hadlee .......Because they are all GREATS.

  • antonymo on July 19, 2011, 7:14 GMT

    I can't agree with them they missed out some outstanding cricketers like murali, v v richards, steve wagh

  • on July 19, 2011, 7:14 GMT

    @usman Sehwag would be there even if 2 people need to be selected instead of 11.

  • BellCurve on July 19, 2011, 7:10 GMT

    I love it. Possibly the most controversial article ever published by ESPN. You have to laugh when Kapil Dev ends up in a "People's Dream XI". There are 29 Test all-rounders I consider better qualified for the job then him. My top 30 Test all-rounders are: 1 Sobers 2 Kallis 3 Imran 4 Miller 5 Faulkner 6 Grace 7 Botham 8 Pollock 9 Hadlee 10 Procter 11 Hammond 12 Greig 13 Worrell 14 Goddard 15 Cairns 16 Macartney 17 Dexter 18 Barlow 19 Watson 20 Gregory 21 Davidson 22 Noble 23 Mohammad 24 Rhodes 25 McMillan 26 Armstrong 27 D'Oliveira 28 Flintoff 29 Jayasuriya 30 Kapil Dev

  • Sushil_Mali on July 19, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    In case of having a clear winner, my suggestion would be based on the number of overs to be allotted to team batting forth in accordance to the runs to be scored to win the match. The number of overs can be derived based on the average run rate of both the innings at which the team setting target has scored. This will be a fair chance to either teams based on their performance.

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:59 GMT

    Where is Murali? highest wicket taker in test matches ??? good selection..

  • johnnymc1 on July 19, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Timeless test-where's Sir Geoffrey? He could bat for a week!!!

  • namdarb on July 19, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Like the idea of a test championship. How about though the top team after the 4 year cycle automatically qualifies for the final. 2nd and 3rd play a preliminary final with the winner playing the top team at the top teams home location. Timeless test sounds good as you actually get a result however the other option could be similar to the Australian Sheffield Shield rule where in the event of a draw the top team is deemed champions. They have after all proved themselves to be the best team so it should be up to the other team to defeat them.

  • DINESHCC on July 19, 2011, 6:54 GMT


  • johnnymc1 on July 19, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    To be able to pick an all time 11, one MUST look at which country the the proposed 11 are going to play. Dennis Lillee had an awful record on the sub-continent. Many sub-continent batsmen have dreadful records in England and so on.My all-time 11 to play a game in England would have to include Fred Trueman, Ian Botham and perhaps Allan Knott. Sehwag and Gavaskar on flat grassless pitches-yes. In England, Greenidge ( who had a long career playing county cricket) and perhaps Boycott. Shane Warne would play for any world side anywhere as would Gary Sobers and Viv Richards-here we go then: Greenidge,Boycott,Tendulkar,Viv Richards,Lara,Sobers.Botham( first half of his career before he got fat) or Imran Khan,Alan Knott,Warne,Malcolm Marshall,Lillee or Trueman.

  • CRIC89 on July 19, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    This is not a dream XL. It's a horrible XL. Where is the highest ever wicket take Murali, how can other bowlers come above him.(Murali has more number of wickets. better average, more 5 and 10 wicket hauls, best figueres of a ining and a match than all the other bowlers are chosen here. This selection is funny.)

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:47 GMT

    @ Usman Qumar ...... Remember Multan dude???? Dont forget that!!! Sehwag is the most destructive test opener of all times and all the teams agree to that....Especially pakistan!!! :D

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    hi all, i love to read comment from ppls who hate Indians, but just wanna say one thing that without INDIA and Indians cricket will be a unrecognized game on the world map. cricket become POWER Full due to Indian supporters. and as for Sir KAPIL DEV's Inclusion- no one become great by playing few games its overall records which make him great. just compare overall records of imran, sobers etc with KAPIL you will find ans. and one thing more no one talking about inclusion of 4 aus players !! why everybody just talking about 4 indian players???????????????????

  • Dr.K.H.Iyer on July 19, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    Dont know what the fuss about the Team is! It is a Dream XI team not an AllTime XI! It simply represents the dream of maximum number of voters; not the team that was selected by experts. If you want an extermely credible Xi go for Benaud's XI; Cricinfo XI or Wisden XI. Why bother with a fun excercise? This team is probably not the BEST of all time; if there is such a thing. by the way; the any result of a poll depends on the composition of voters. Obviously India's population overwhelmed the rest. but; as i said; it is a fun exercise.

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:44 GMT

    this is surely an all biased team selcted by indian fans. i dont think sunil gavaskar or kapil dev ever deserve their place in the all time XI. i wud go for JACQUES KALLIS n VIVIAN RICHARDS or a MATHEW HAYDEN for a all rounder and openers slot

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    @Pratit, add Dale Steyn and drop whom? There are many fast bowlers you could include, but there just isn't room for all of them, and as good as I think Dale Steyn is, there are a few I'd include ahead of him.

  • Sameer_cricfan on July 19, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    Kapil's inclusion is totally biased one..... But his inclusion should not be the reason to disrespect GAVASKAR... There are some guyz talking about great WI bowling and rate Gavaskar mediocre..... Tell me how does logic work out here..... Sehwag doesn't deserve a place that's obvious..... But plz show some respect to greatest opner of all time Gavaskar who played all his cricket in the most bowler dominated era....Kapil's inclusion is totally biased one..... But his inclusion should not be the reason to disrespect GAVASKAR... There are some guyz talking about great WI bowling and rate Gavaskar mediocre..... Tell me how does logic work out here..... Sehwag doesn't deserve a place that's obvious..... But plz show some respect to greatest opner of all time Gavaskar who played all his cricket in the most bowler dominated era....

  • ravikiran.bits on July 19, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    Hmm actually the best team was voted for! Dravid missed out as he was competing with Grt sir Don Bradman!

  • sachdevk on July 19, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    my choice will be............ Murli in place of Shane, Richards in place of Lara

  • on July 19, 2011, 6:25 GMT

    A timeless test?? Are these people insane???? This is simply a marketing ploy to sell more advertising space.

    Noone but NOONE will watch this. . . You need the equivalent of two dream teams. . . An All asian 11 Vs Rest of the World 11. . . teams comprising the best players statistically both home and away in their respective roles. . neutral venue preferably one with a challenging pitch conditions. . D/N sessions. Its the best way to get sponsorship dollars, the best players and entertaining test cricket in the prime time slot. A timeless test is pointless because it will be physically exhausting for players

  • antonymo on July 19, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    I think they r forget about man who most wicket taker in test and ODI.......! so sad

  • nzcricket174 on July 19, 2011, 6:09 GMT

    New Zealand is out then. Our best batsmen can't even play a 5 day game, let alone play for 3 day of it. I'm talking about Jesse Ryder.

  • rockz.andy on July 19, 2011, 6:07 GMT

    What the heck! bowler and fielders will get the real test Dravid and kallis are gonna have feast in staying at the crease for unlimited days..Sehwag gayle cant suitable for this game even how quick they score that doestnt really matter only the pitch is providing great assistance to bowlers

  • pratit on July 19, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    No Dale Steyn in the best 11?come on.however,the timeless test is a good idea.

  • dilpickle.abey on July 19, 2011, 6:01 GMT

    Its hard to believe that Murali is not in there...

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    Just include Dravid, Laxman and Kumble and make it Indian XI instead of world XI.

  • krish_2011 on July 19, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    The "dream team" is rubbish, if it does not include Viv Richards, Garry Sobers and a better keeper like Rod Marsh. Adam Gilchrist has no business to be there in a test team when someone like Marsh is around. Viv should take Lara's place and Sobers Kapil Dev's place. Others in the team are ok. I would put Barry Richards as an opener in place of Sunil Gavaskar since Gavaskar never tried to dominate the bowling in his entire career, while Barry Richards was a lot more positive in his brief career. Both had been technically very sound. Mind you, I am an Indian, not South African or West Indian or Australian. Thus my team would be Barry Richards, Sehwag, Bradman, Tendulkar, Viv Richards, Sobers, Marsh, Akram, Warne, Ambrose and McGrath. Those who question Sehwag's inclusion should remember that a destructive opener can demoralize the opposition so much that the rest of the batting can heavily capitalize on that and put up a big team score.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:53 GMT

    Shewag in eleven....what a jokeShewag in eleven....what a joke

  • harikeshan on July 19, 2011, 5:53 GMT

    Greatest Team of all is a joke. Rated by many who have played the game at the highest level, and even included in the ESPN Cricinfo Hall of Fame are the Great Sir Gary Sobers and Viv Richards, who were role models to such modern cricketers such Tendulkar and Lara. Sehwag finding an opening slot based on the fact that this would be played on flat Indian batting wicket. Lets face it he has not scored outside India compared to likes of Boycott, Greenidge, and other great openers. Sobers regarded by many as the greatest cricketer. This is such a stupid idea and an insult to those greats who have played the game.

  • mikey76 on July 19, 2011, 5:53 GMT

    Another typically lopsided vote in favour of Indian players, no doubt 80% of votes came from India! Kapil Dev is easily the weakest of the 4 great all rounders of the 70's and 80's. Dream XI's are always subjective and almost impossible to formulate but at least be slightly realistic. Richard Hadlee would always get in ahead of McGrath, great bowler though he was and the same goes for Malcolm Marshall ahead of Ambrose, everybody knows that! The rest you could argue all day over but not to have a single english player is a bit strange...Fred Trueman, Jack Hobbs anybody!

  • kaushiq on July 19, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    timeless test match sounds good, not only it will ensure a winner but also this generation can feel what playing/watching a test in england in hte old days used to be. people will now know what test match really is. but my fear is with all the pressure of limitless time, the match might be over in four days. about the fans choice test squad, i just want to say one thing, the game have given us many great player, so its impossible to make a perfect squad. would have love to see steave waugh in there for his all round performance and captaincy :)

  • albstp on July 19, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    How come Kapil Dev is present in the eleven and not Imran Khan. And also how come Sunil Gavaskar present and not Gary Sobers or Gordon Greenidge.

  • ShaniJ on July 19, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    This timeless test will make the game more boring to watch.The run rates ,that has improved in the last decade, will fall back to its origin at about 1 or2 per over!.As for that All time 11 ,its a joke.I dont know how sehwag managed to get in their instead of greats and much more suited to test cricket like Geoff boycott,hanif mohammed etc.Viv richards is also missing and I have no idea how Kapil is better than Sobers or Imran!!ICC should have made this team not by voting but by making a committee of experts and ex cricketers that would have selected the best!!

  • Fast_Track_Bully on July 19, 2011, 5:41 GMT

    funny to see people are commenting Imran better than Kapil dev in tests!!!! They do not know about the difference between ODI and tests!!! I will not be amused if someone comment Afridi as better than all these players!!!! LOL

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    not fair at all :( thz is not the team that so cld PEOPLE dream of it is the team tht INDIA mst be dreaming of :O not a single sri lankan not at least murali?? nor mahela not even sanga???? ICC under the govern of india so obviusly we have to be rdy 4 such stuf na

  • Ramzy on July 19, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    well,,,, I don't think this is a good idea.... test is losing interest because of the 'long' time involved,, going timeless will make it worse...

    I would suggest Mr. Lorgat to consider 4 day tests in future...... each innings maximum of 100 overs (100 overs a day)..... team A bats for day1, team B bats day2, in case of a team being all-out before 100 overs, the remaining overs will be bonus (added) to the other team (will be 100+ overs)...... this way we'll have 4 days=4innings and there will be a winner a draw is possible in the event of rain interruption for a long time of period..... or, we can have 2 (reserve) days to cover up the period/overs interrupted by rain...... hope cricinfo forward this proposal to ICC

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    I hear some ridiculous names out there in the list. Here is a good test team line up. 1. WG Grace 2. Sunil Gavaskar 3. Donald Bradman 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Graeme Pollock 6. Garfield Sobers 7. Adam Gilchrist 8. Wasim Akram 9. Malcom Marshall 10. Dennis Lillee 11. Shane Warne

  • SachinLara1 on July 19, 2011, 5:30 GMT

    sobers: 93 matches batting:160 innings 8032 runs avg 57 bowling: 159 innings 235wickets avg: 34 kapil: 131 matches batting: 184 innings 5248 runs avg 31 bowling:227 innings 434 wickets avg 29

    imran: 88 matches batting: 126innings 3807 runs avg 37.69 bowling:142 innings 362 wickets avg:22

  • OW-ZAAT on July 19, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    Where the heck did that team come from? Here are some names that will make any world XI in any era, Bradman, Sobers, Richards. I don't care what the "others'" aggregates are. I can pick a better team, in fact the great West Indies teams would have pounded that into submission in three days. Oh by the way, given what passes for test pitches these days, that timeless test should finish in two months.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on July 19, 2011, 5:25 GMT

    That's a good move, hope the test will end in 6 days at least!. What if it is going to be a tie????

  • KAIRAVA on July 19, 2011, 5:21 GMT

    My batsmen for the timeless test from the current generation will certainly have Dravid, Trott, Kallis, Cook, Chanderpaul.

  • SpartaArmy on July 19, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    @johnathonjosephs: Dude!! Its not REAL xi, its your fantasy xi, get some life.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    Garry Sobers is the one man that has been touted as possibly the greatest cricketer ahead of Bradman. For me, nobody surpasses the Don, but Garry is almost certainly the greatest allrounder of all time. I wouldn't mention Imran, Hadlee, Kapil, in the same breath. Botham could be included just as well in that group.

    If you want a captain, Garry Sobers fits that bill as well.

    I have great respect for Murali, but if not for a rule change he wouldn't even have still been playing, let alone had a world record of wickets. I'd love to see him in the team as an offie and Warney as a leggie. Whether both would fit I'm not sure. I'd take Warne as a match-winner. No Sth Africans? Graham Pollock, Barry Richards....? To name but a couple.

    My team, with obvious bias based on my limited experience of the earlier players. Greenidge, Haynes, Bradman, Tendulkar, Pollock, Sobers, Knott, Marshall, Akram, Hadlee, Warne, McGrath. 12th...possibly Murali

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    Having Kapil Dev in the World XI, not taking away anything from him, seems a little dodgy.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    The greatest all time XI should have had 6 Sri Lankans. Else it seems pretty unfair.

  • Umasuthan on July 19, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    @Nilanka, Well said. It's my team too.

  • rohanblue on July 19, 2011, 5:12 GMT

    wow i want to see a timeless test in rajkot pitch...

  • gothetaniwha on July 19, 2011, 5:10 GMT

    Yeah boring a timeless test on a flat pitch in India ,SRT probably will get a 1000 ,but who is going to run for him ? .

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    IMRAN khan is a way better ch0ice than KAPIL DEV as an ALLROUNDER....Chk 0ut the stats 0f b0th players....

  • fareeduetian12 on July 19, 2011, 5:08 GMT

    timeless test ok pick this x1 and i challenge if they will get out even in 15 days

    jonathan trott, alistair cook, jacques kallis, shivnarine chanderpaul, rahul dravid, vvs laxman, kumar sangakkara, hashim amla, azhar ali, simon katich and mahela jayawardene

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    The first step is host it somewhere other than England. Otherwise we'll lose two days with rain.

  • tradetekbiz on July 19, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    @Shiv1011, i hope you were being sarcastic, otherwise you need to start watching cricket. You don't point to someone captaining a WC winning side while trying to lessen them as a cricketer. Imran Khan averaged 37 as a batsman, and 50 during the end, Kapil a meager 31. But that's not what's important, Imran Khan was a legendary bowler, arguably in top 5 of all time, kapil perhaps in top 50 on his good days. He was a master of reverse swing, he revolutionized the art of bowling or should I say perfected it. If thats not enough, if you watched cricket in the 80s, he brought cricket from radio to tv, he simply was the epitome of the word "LEGEND", team of rebels like Pakistanis usually would have followed him anywhere and still will. As an all-rounder he was only second to Sobers, but as an 'idea' he was and will always be unique. This idea circumnavigated all good things in cricket and life, and that is why even a thousand years from now, I firmly believe he'd make the all-time XI.

  • MaruthuDelft on July 19, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Non sense; players Rahul Dravid and Laxman would then score 10 runs per session!!! Tests must be played over just 4 days starting on a Thursday. All first class matches too should be four days affairs. ODI and T20 must be incorporated within those 4 days. It is important to have just one game; cricket should be same whether it is played at the international or club level; IPL should have just 8 franchises and played over 8 weeks.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    My Dream Team would be...

    Hanif Mohammad Jack Hobbs Donald Bradman Brian Lara/Sachin Viv Richards Garry Sobers Mark Boucher Curtly Ambrose Malcolm Marshall Wasim Akram Jim Laker

  • kurups on July 19, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    this is a joke.......without sobers and Vivian Richards!!!greatness in not just about wins.....its also how entertaining, aggressive at the same time effective the game is played. not a bad list but definitely some changes to be made!!!and lets not come up with this elite list every week. Just takes the thrill & feel out of this wonderful exercise.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    I need to be in the dream team.We could knock out Virender Sehwag and replace him with me.Seeing that i could bat and bowl well.American Franchise hardyal Singh

  • Willowarriers on July 19, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    how many of you have seen Boycott play? He would have never survived in the modern game in which run rate is nudging up all the time and scoring quickly is a vital part of the game. People tend to write Rahul Dravid off occassionally for being slow. Boycott is no automatic choice ahead of Sehwag just because he was slow and resolute. Nowadays tests are won just as much on account of quick scoring as on account of grinding people to death and putting spectators to sleep.

  • on July 19, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    It's Just Peoples dream XI so don't read too much in to it. You can easily say that most of the votes came from India. Most people would like to see Viv richards, Marshall and Sobers replacing Lara, Ambrose and Kapil. My only question is who will be the captain. I like the choice of Aussies and wasim and sehwag at the top.

  • jonesy2 on July 19, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    huh? is this a joke?.............

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on July 19, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    These "PEOPLE'S" teams are not going to work. Since majority of the "PEOPLE" are from only one part of the world. Hence Kapil Dev as the all rounder? Obvious where a massive chunk of the votes are from.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    surely dravid should be there...why sehwag.. sehwag isnt a test player...where s laxman...missing two class players....murali will do instead of warne...

  • evenflow_1990 on July 19, 2011, 4:53 GMT

    pray to god cook and trott don't get their eye in for the timeless test =O

  • ashish514 on July 19, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    Obviously in any fan selected team, Indians will figure out the most. But inclusion of Kapil Dev is too much. Agreed he brought us the world cup, but that was odi's. I'll go with Sobers here. And Sanga for Gilchrist bcoz he beats gilchrist hands down in batting. Viv or Lara, you decide. Would have tried to fit Dravid somewhere( of course i'm biased) and also the West Indian pacers, but no place. Anyways which one or two you can choose from half a dozen equally lethal bowlers and moreover McGrath was clinical. So aggression at one end by Ambrose (but was he the best among them?? i dunno) and accuracy at other by McGrath is a good combination.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:51 GMT

    Why have a timeless match. Keep the original format. There may be a chance for combined champs. But i don't think the teams will like that either. Hence they will be playing for a win and not a draw. Might just make the entire thing more exciting.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    come on guys this team was selected on votes from fans not a group of experts so who ever voted team was selected. there is no point saying anything about it. it was fan choice. otherwise many other would have been in there like murli, & few others. votes were 250,000 so it based on those people's choice. for test they should make a formula to decide instead of timeless match.

  • chandau on July 19, 2011, 4:47 GMT

    The problem with these internet voted teams is twofold. 1. India can boast a population more than all other test playing nations added together. So obviously a team will have more indian representation. 2. Most of the people who vote on polls are the internet generation who have hardly heard of or seen the greats like Sorbers, 3 Ws, 4 pacemen of WI, fab 4 of India, et al. Furthermore the alltime teams cannotbe chosen as the game has undergone a lot of changes during the last 30 years more than it changed during the first 70 - 80 or even 100 years! this seems to apply to most professional sports be it rugby union, football, tennis or anything else. As such it is futile to comment on the above selection - to say who should be in and who should be out because it is simply incomparable !!

  • himanshu.team on July 19, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    "Timeless match" is not a very good idea in my opinion. It will encourage everyone to play safety first. in which case, matches will be come very slow and boring. For a clear cut-winner, either the first innings score, or the Average runs scorred per wicket OR avg. runs scorred per over should be considered. Simply take a pick of these three and inform everyone involved. In my opinion, Avg. runs per wicket seems to be the best solution. But having a timeless test match, will be a waste.

  • anurag4u10 on July 19, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    i think icc shud rather work on d creation of bowler freindly wkts nd shud made amndments to slightly shift d game towards bowlers. apart 4m some tracks in ind nd sl most oder tracks exhgibit competitive test mtchs. even d drawn mtchs hav dier own excitement d recent examples r third test mtch btwn ind and wi were chandu nd edwards batted exceptionally well to guide it towards draw. and also imagine d fun of watchin d mtch were 5 overs r remainin nd 2 wkts r needed, there d bowling will have all d gielders around batsmen nd d batter will play every ball makin sure he doesnt lose his wkt

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    How can Viv Richards miss out from the list?

  • rahulcricket007 on July 19, 2011, 4:38 GMT

    @nadeem raja khan. sehwag deserves aplace in this team. because sehwag is responsible for indias no 1 ranking.

  • rahulcricket007 on July 19, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    as an indian i m very happy that 4 indians r selected in the deram team but i think murlitharan is better than warne i dont understand why he was not selected . also kallis is a good all rounder than kapildev . & as in place of wicketkeeper i think sangakarra has a better record than gilchrist .

  • D.V.C. on July 19, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    I've got to say though that a Timeless Test is a far better option than anything else Lorgat said. Can you imagine a 4 year Championship coming down to who scored the most runs in the first innings of 1 game!?

  • karthik132 on July 19, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    Lol...225000 votes would have been from India!! Only Sachin and maybe Sunny from India are deserved players considering the other nominees.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    Ofcourse Indian vote the most so they have got their players. One benefit that India have accrued of having a large population...LOLZ

  • D.V.C. on July 19, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    I suspect the majority of votes on the ICC website came from people born in the last 40 years, just a hunch.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    The world XI team is good with few changes. I would any day prefer malcolm marshall over ambrose and richard headley ahead of mcgrath.And those of you talking about warne vs murali. Man,murali is a great bowler but not as great as warne. More than 70% of muralis wickets have come in srilanka and he always struggled against australia,india and in australia,india and england where pitches dont favour him. He is highly succesful against bangladesh,pakistan,zimbabwe and WI. Poor players of spin :). Warne is a magician.He got wickets on fast pitches of australia,Sa and swing conditions of england as well. End of debate. But kapil in the 11 is a joke.he is the greatest allrounder in india but sobers anyday is the greatest cricker ever. And those of doubting sehwags ability,he simply creates an impact right at the top.You dont need to score 150 of 350 balls everytime u walk in,your quick fire 50-60 of 50 balls puts opposition on backfoot.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:21 GMT

    I would like to see the age of all 2,50,000 people who voted for this. How people forget almost all the greats of 80s esp windies & aus. This is a too modern line-up ignoring the vintage greats who deserve to replace few names in this list.

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    Greatest Team all of the time not fair, it should be 01.Brain Lara 02.Sachin Tendulkar 03.Kumar Sangakkara (WK) 04.Donald Bradman 05.Mahela Jayawardana (C) 06.Sehwag 07.Wasim Akram 08.Vaas 09. Ambroos 10.Shane warne 11.Murali

  • on July 19, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    ponting aur sangakkara must be there.

  • Test_Match_Fan on July 19, 2011, 4:04 GMT

    I will be signing up to come in and watch this timeless test match! Eagerly awaiting for the dates

  • rahulcricket007 on July 19, 2011, 4:02 GMT

    well , i think there is no need of timeless test match in english conditions . the ball will seam in those conditions & the test match will be over in 5 days giving a result.

  • Willowarriers on July 19, 2011, 4:00 GMT

    A battle to death! Like the gladiators... Bring it on! Awesome idea.

  • shankar07it87 on July 19, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    I think the lower middle order is not having a genuine lower middle batsmen who can bat with tailenders.....maybe laxman or chanderpaul or steve waugh or bevan should have been there in place of brian lara......otherwise it is the great team with quality bowlers and quality batsmen....

  • KingofRedLions on July 19, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    I suspect that the majority of votes on the ICC website came from India. Just a hunch.

  • siddhartha57 on July 19, 2011, 3:54 GMT


  • on July 19, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    Yeah, and play the Timeless Test on a typical IPL pitch, so that it can go on for months together.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:47 GMT

    I dont agree with this team, as Sehwag has been selected openner ignoring Boycott, Grenndige Suttcliff, who are much better openers than him not only by techineque but also by records. Similarly Kapi Dev has been slected ignoring Sobbers, Headflee, Ian Botham,Imran Khan Jaques Kalis etc. As my openion Sobbers is an automatic choice in any world eleven.I also surprised to see the elemination of great King Richards. I think Richards is a king of cricket of any format his elemination is injustice.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    dravid must have been there or laxman

  • rohan024 on July 19, 2011, 3:40 GMT

    125 overs per innings, ball change at the end of 70th over...If the team manages to get the opposition out in less than 125 overs, then they add up their batting quota overs by the same margin..Similarly, when you declare you add up the remaining overs in your bowling quota of 125 overs..

  • AnotherCricketFan on July 19, 2011, 3:38 GMT


    What does that try to say? Kapil is way ahead of Imran? Imran trying hard to become a kapi ? Kapil is way less than Imran?

  • johnathonjosephs on July 19, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    And for all you that really wanna know if Murali is better than Warne, go to youtube and look up "murali 50p challenge", doubt if warne could do that

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:36 GMT

    Greatest Team all of the time not fair, it should be 01.Syed Anwer 02.Sachin Tendulkar 03.Kumar Sangakkara (WK) 04.Donald Bradman 05.Mahela Jayawardana (CP) 06.Viv Richards 07.Wasim Akram 08.Waqar Younus 09.Cotny Ambrus 10.Shane warne 11.Muttaiya Muralidaran

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:35 GMT

    Do this timeless test have a day-off every 4th day ??? I don't think any player can be 100% fit on day 4... Imagine day 6 and 7..

    Tell you what... if a batsman can stay till 6th day morning.. all day is his..... ;-).. and the fielders may well become spectators...

    exciting proposal anyways.... Cheers

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:33 GMT

    -->Remove 'Light Offering system and Rain Delay Excuses'

    Timeless test matches will be boring and players will wear out soon. We should think what if a timeless match is played in a belter pitch. The bowlers would hate to bowl.

    Better remove the 'Light offering system & Rain delay' systems by playing under lights and roof.

    If we take any game, Every game or sport is played based on a timelimit.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:33 GMT

    A timeless test will KILL the game... imagine no team will be in any hurry to score runs... no team will bother about public.... there will be no decleration.... no follow on situation.... no team will take any initiative to move forward and take chance to make the match.... even drawn test are quite interesting..... what will happen if it goes on and on like the one timeless test few decades ago where result was not possible even after 10 days. I think the present format is fine... just make sure 90 overs are bowled in a day and to be on the safer side make it a six day test... if any team cant win a test in 6 days that both teams deserve to be declared joint winners

  • mathewjohn2176 on July 19, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    @ashes61 ,why do you need to say the team is 7 non indian players,I guess you can say this in other way as well,7 non Australian players.ofcourse its a peoples dream xi team,and you can't have a record of voters,otherwise how come four australians and four Indians players get placed in dream xi,its a question mark.I would like to see each member from different team rather than mostly aussies and indians.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    No Sorbers or Kallis as a allrounder. But kapil dev... :DDDDD... Sooo funny. Even though I am sri lankan I agreed to put Warne ahead of Murali. But I will replace one more fast bowler to Murali as all rounder can fill that spot. No viv richards!!!

    No Malcom marshell??? This is redicoulusssss......

  • KP_84 on July 19, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    In Australia's Sheffield Shield first-class cricket competition, the team that finished in first position in the league table wins the Shield in the event of a drawn final. Why can't the same principle be applied to the Test Championship final? The Test Championship has come about because administrators want to boost public interest in Test cricket. Timeless Tests eneded in the mid twentieth century because they were decreasing public interest in cricket. History tells us that when the restriction on the number of playing days is removed, batsmen tend to play too conservatively. The result is a brand of cricket that most spectators, apart from the 'purists', find unattractive.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    i think out of 250000 votes 200000 came from india.. wat a stupid dream team

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    I completely agree if there is a timeless test to decide the champion team.Also thinik every final match of any test series should be timeless if there was dull/no results on the prevous games. What it should give is an opportunity for number 5,6,7 batsmen to score big like top three! On the other side bowlers will have their work cut out as they needed to hang in before the last wickets fail and have to comeback for more bowling effort :(, So may be pace bowlers should be allowed to bowl max 4 bouncers per over in those matches.

  • m23khan on July 19, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    ICC should get great insurance then. Timeless test might end up given some players stroke and some might even die!

    At a time when Tests are watched by nobody and ODIs are losing popularity to T20, this is a bizzare move.

  • Mooky on July 19, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    Dont agree with ICC's all time great team, may team wuld be strauss, cook, trott, peiterson, bell, morgan, prior, swan, brenson, broad & anderson, just need to find a spot for Sir Geoffary Boycott

  • johnathonjosephs on July 19, 2011, 3:15 GMT

    The Real 11 Hobbes, Tendulkar, Bradman, Lara, Viv Richard, Sobers, Sangakkara, Marshall, Hadlee, Wasim, Murali Only way tendulkar can get in the team is if he opens (other openers are not cut for international 11). If we are putting only one all rounder in the team, Sobers cuts Imran Khan out. If we talking about tests, Sangakkara >>>>> way better than Gilchrist. Hadlee beats Lillee because Lillee only did good in England/Australia, and Hadlee was just a bowling genius. He is up there (probably 2nd to Marshall) among th best and is extremely underrated (kind of how Murali is underrated compared to Warne). Murali vs Warne? People can argue for days, and it is close but in the end, the Stats don't lie and speaking statistically, Warne is half the man Murali was (half ten wickets hauls, 5 wicket hauls, Wicket/test match ratio). Honorable Mentions: Warne, Imran Khan, Waqar Younis, Dravid, McGrath, Lilee, Holding, Walsh, Kallis, Allan Donald, and Miandad

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    we cant consider this as a dream 11.Of course they are good players, but most of them is not that much valuable to be consider as in dream 11. most of the voters don't know about the greatness of several players in the list. Thats y it happened like this..I think from india only Sachin have impact to qualify in dream11. Then lara n bradman too.About rest ,personally i would say not that much worth to qualify in dream11. simply comparing murali v/s warne..probably murali should come ahead of warne n also sobers ahead of kapil.. I like to say this is a list of players having more fans..

  • dr.thirsty on July 19, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    Timeless test? That is wrong in so many ways its hard to know where to start. Sell that to TV schedulers - 'its 5 days, or 6 or 7, maybe 8, possibly 9'. Think of logistics, flights, hotels, staffing, weather, players commitments etc. Ticketing - advance sales for day 7 anyone? Tight finish in prospect for day 6 - absolute chaos as thousands try to buy at the gate. No declarations. Is a rest day needed or is it who wilts first. Bat on a belter for 3 days then watch the pitch fall apart on day 6. With no pressure of time, what happens to the run rate - block for 1 an over, just don't get out. To get to the final a team has played a certain way with normal constraints & then you chuck that all away and play a totally different game. If I recall, didn't Eng play a timeless test in SA that lasted 9 days & only ended when Eng had to catch a boat home. It was a draw (correct me if I'm wrong someone). Cricket is what it is, let's live with it.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    How about match going on for 15days....what a genius?

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    hey guys stop complaining that 90 percent of votes were by indian n so on..even if it so,its yours country fault..for people were not interested..majority of indiam surely prefer kapil over sobers/kallis irrespective of much they know cricket..ya but i agree this team could have been lot better..i would have prerered hobbs over sunny.i would have kept sehwag for he can turn the match single handedly,sach,don n lara were automatic selection.then there should be sobers over kapil,sanga over gilly.i thnk malcolm should be there for wasim,i have seen his bowling footage,n whatever article i have read about him they simply say he was d best....

  • avmd on July 19, 2011, 3:01 GMT

    Don't take this "dream eleven" too seriously, it was cosen from votes over the internet and obviously most of the voters were Indians. No wonder Kapil was chosen ahead of Imran Khan, Botham and Sobers, a joke indeed. Put this team in "page two.

  • on July 19, 2011, 3:01 GMT

    Finally there will be a result after 5 days.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:55 GMT

    I don't know about a timeless test. But there must a change to the greatest test team. I'm an Indian at heart, but Kapil Dev is a stretch. Instead it should be Sir Garfield Sobers, greatest all-time all-rounder. Also Murli should be on the team not Warne, after all Murli is the leading wicket taker. Now that's a team.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:53 GMT

    Most of the cricket fans are from India. So this Dream XI represents mainly Indian Cricket fans. Its obvious that this team is accoding to Indian fans aspirations. ICC would have had a better mechanism to select a Dream XI which could represent world cricket fans.

  • Angad11 on July 19, 2011, 2:51 GMT

    Imran khan better than Kapil ? What has he ever done in his life, other than captaining a world cup winning team which had the likes of Inzi and Wasim.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:47 GMT

    if its a draw or tie.... use the tie breaker like T20s

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:45 GMT

    What kind of an XI is that ? Where are Sobers, Richards and Marshall ?

  • dalibagh on July 19, 2011, 2:42 GMT

    The selection of dream team shows how influential the Indians are. It is very difficult for me to digest names of Kapil Dev and Sehwag. Sehwag doesnt have the right technique of a opener and Kapil Dev was always rated below Imran, Hadlee or even Botham. The selectors of this team should be sacked immidiately

  • 9ST9 on July 19, 2011, 2:41 GMT

    First of all the people's dream XI is a joke and should not be taken seriously- 4 Indians because There are such a huge population in India and only Indians would be cricket crazy enough to take time and actually vote. Regarding timeless tests, problem would be scheduling the telecast and tickets. And it's funny to see Cricket falling back to the good old days of timeless tests.

  • west_indiesBoss on July 19, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    noo this is dumb. as much as i believe that this test championship is long overdue - it must be done preoperly. me being from a younger generation of t20 excitement, one of the most thrilling pieces of a test match is seeing when a captain decides to declare... too early..too late.. wud it backfire? cud his side get bowled out in the atime left? wud they make the runs in the time? shud he hav declared earlier.. that is why we CANNOT have a timeless test... the time limit is what it makes it the TEST

  • Tendulkars_Tennis_Elbow on July 19, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    a timeless test? dravid, trott and kallis shouldnt be allowed in though. they'll probably keep batting till the end of the year.

  • Dr.K.H.Iyer on July 19, 2011, 2:27 GMT

    Hmm...... for timeless tests quality of pitch becomes an important factor. On some of those Lankan pitches those tests will .........well be timeless!:) My dream XI:

    Sehwag & Gavaskar>>>>>As good & varied as any combo(like Fire & Ice)! Don,& Sachin>>>We need to make runs! Headley>>> wet pitch master. Sobers>>>Well everything. Gilchrist>>> Cameo special and a good keeper. Hadlee>>> Master of control(achieved more than Mcgrath without any support). Ambrose>>Opening spells that can restrict and devastate. Dale Steyn>> Intimidates even on these pitches. watch out on any Surface! Murali>>>Will bowl forty overs if one bwler gets injured or is not doing well.

  • Gabbagod on July 19, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    Sorry Indian fans - only one countrymen in my best ever XI. Hobbs, Greenidge, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Marshall, Murali and Trueman. Both spinners in for a typical turning wicket spinning the ball opposite directions and the 2 best pacemen the World has seen. Only person I would be sorry for is Gilly (he completely revolutionised the WKs role in a team) - his hands would be pounded by the 2 quicks and then his mind would get tortured by the antics of Warne and Murali in tandem. Sobers to back them up as well. As for the batting - I don't think any bowling opposition would ever get this lineup to 5 or 6 down. I can see the score now : 4/1000 (dec).

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    i guess too many fans esp Indian have voted and been seemingly influenced by the recency factor - why we see a Kapil ,Lara and a mc Grath versus a more mature voting which would have seen - Sobers , Viv Richards and a Dennis Lillee make the cut as also Marshall for an Ambrose .

    Have aways felt a greatest Xi should be spilt into before 1970 and post 1970 to do more justice

  • tappee74 on July 19, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    Cricket and more cricket,the test of test cricket. Assorting the pinnacle of class, the hallmark of standard. A smart thought,no drawn or wash out matches no suppose or if. We live in an evolving world where changes are our navigational tools, blueprints .If materialised, this will put a new dimension in the game.About picking an eleven,its is a hugh task.I have read from the above contributers, but i have not seen any mention of Chanderpaul. He is a true test batsman.He will make a difference even with all the great guns around,he is a bowler's nightmare and a team's main root.Should the game be a play to finish affair Shiv will be the nucleus of any team.I am very enthusiastic of this outcome.

  • devalyagnik2003 on July 19, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    One can argue about why sir garry sobers is not there in the team in stead of kapil dev, he was the best all rounder. But as one said border should be there, where will you fix him, Sachin, Bredman and Lara all have better average than him at the middle order! And for the ones who are against Sehwag! He averages 54 and his strike rate is 82. That means his average is better then almost all the openers with a great strike rate. Rienzied said he will get Langer, Hayden and others but just because of running between the wickets if you are against Sehwag you must be kidding! He averages 3.43 runs more then Hayden with 20 more strike rate so don't talk rubbish without knowing the states... Out of 4 Indian player I will surely say Kallis or Sir sobers are better option then Kapil but for Sehwag, Sachin ther are no replacements...

  • dilanz51 on July 19, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    I think this selection was done in India. They might as well selected Praveen Kumar and Sreeshanth instead of Wasim and Mcgrath.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:21 GMT

    This is absolutely ridiculous to see ICC to provide a shortlist of 60 greatest cricketers of all time without Dravid who is unarguably India's greatest middle order Test Batsman even ahead of Sachin and he is also named "The Wall" for that reason. So this by any means does not qualify for greatest team of all time. ICC should have members in their panel who knows History of Test Cricket and not the amateurs who will provide the any list randomly.

  • KAIRAVA on July 19, 2011, 2:17 GMT

    For those arguing Sehwag's inclusion & favoring Greenidge/Haynes over him don't understand/have the cricket knowledge. Look the quality & wide array of opposition bowlers that Sehwag had to face in his test career. Sehwag scored tons facing the likes of McGrath, Lee, Gillespie, Warne (all Aus), Pollock, Steyn, Ntini, Morne Morkel (All SA), Shoaib Akhtar, Saqlain Mushtaq (both Pak), Chaminda Vaas, Muralitharan (both SL), each of whom would walk into an all-time XI of their respective country test teams. Greenidge/Haynes never had to face the dreaded 5 of Garner/Holding/Roberts/Marshall/Croft & scored runs against inferior attacks of the 70-80s, with sole exception being facing against Imran Khan & Dennis Lillee.

  • Saulat on July 19, 2011, 2:16 GMT

    Kapil, Sunil n Sehwag In People's Dream XI = JOKE

  • dilanz51 on July 19, 2011, 2:14 GMT

    This team is a joke and a disgrace where the hell is Murali. The last time I check he was the most successful bowler in the history of test cricketand Odi . As always Sri Lankan cricketers are not taken seriously. On what basis did they select Kapil Dev. Its funny that the greatest allrounder ever Sir Garfield Sobers not selected.

  • fabroberts on July 19, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    Why do people forget arguably the greatest allrounder of our time? Kallis has an extraordinary record in all forfats for hit unbelievable batting and tight bowling. With a better average and more 50's and 100's than tendulkar in the past 8 or so years. Why would he not be included, or discussed?

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:07 GMT

    it will be a gr8 solution but it should be applied in every test of chapionship........... AND IF U R AGAINST OF THIS SELECTED TEAM THEN MUST READ MY FULL ARTICLE(bcoz this is not a comment). this greatest all time eleven test team is not a dream indian team bcoz if it is then there should be also kumble n dravid n zaheer instead of warne lara n any fast bowler. sehwag should not be there before 5 years but these 5 years his contribution in test cricket is unbelievable.we got more results then ever as DILSHAN,TAMIM IQBAL N all many cricketers r trying to copy his style n also get success.why r matches played -to find results ,if results r not necessary then ofcourse SEHWAH SSHOULD NOT BE HERE. a consistant 4-5 ranked team with 4 world class great batsmen like SACHIN,DRAVID,LAXMAN N GANGULY with two world class spinner KUMBLE N BHAJJI if go to rank 1 n this only of the all time great destroyer VIRENDER SEHWAG .i dont think of any other player have capability to do this.

  • devalyagnik2003 on July 19, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    and at the end, warne and murli both are greats in their own ways so I wouldn't mind either way, for the third faster I would choose Akram, one may argue about that but I would like to get a bowler totally different from my previous two choices, McGrath and Marshal... left handed bowler whose main strength is not just pace but swing.. Mcgrath and Marshall might be the choice no one would comment about...

  • CSpiers on July 19, 2011, 2:01 GMT

    This is a great idea by the ICC (for once). Nothing worse than having a close draw at the end of the fifth day *cough* india *cough*

  • devalyagnik2003 on July 19, 2011, 2:00 GMT

    for the ones who just keep saying why so many aussies, or indians, first thing I am an Indian. Gawaskar is there because he is the best opener according to almost all the fast bowlers of his time, Including the WI and AUssie greats.. He faces the WI pace attack without helmet having average more than "almost" every other openers On the other hand Sehwag is there because he is the most attacking opener with average more than 50, and there must be one opener in this modern era who can score quickly! if there was a choice one CAN SURELY consider Hayden there.. Bredman, Sachin, were obvious choice for almost everyone.. I wouldn't comment on Lara as I like watching him play while he is in form, if one comment abt his place i atleast won't argue In place of Kapildev I might consider Kallis because having 3 fast bowlers in side one would go for a batting allrounder not a bowling allrounder... Gilchrist is no doubt the right choice in bowling I might go for marshel, Mcgrath for sure..

  • krazzyking on July 19, 2011, 1:57 GMT

    how many of us have actually seen greenidge and haynes?... i personally never knew there exists a person by the name of greenidge... let's just say this isn't the ALL TIME list.... and like most players crying themselves hoarse "you cant compare two generations of players"

  • sreesam on July 19, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    Greendige and Haynes better than Sehwag? How?? The WI bowlers were the most feared and the best in the world!! Greenidge and Haynes never had to face them. Sehwag on the other hand faces the best bowlers in his time and still manages to score a run a ball.

  • on July 19, 2011, 1:39 GMT

    just bring in a one day logic to test matches. make it a max of 100 overs per innings, with max of 30 overs per bowler. if an innings gets over within 100 overs, the left out overs can be used by the opponent in their innings following immediately. also make it timeless, to permit match to get over even if rain plays spoilsport. this to me makes a simple and interesting solution. with all facets of cricket coming into play.

  • on July 19, 2011, 1:38 GMT

    Interesting idea about timeless test. Not sure if I´m sold yet but could be interesting. As for the all time test team, well, I guess it goes to show that India is re-writing cricket history again. Sachin Tendulkar is the only Indian that should have been considered and he is no walk up start. Any all-time XI without Sobers cannot be taken seriously. And I would take over Tendulkar and Lara in the middle order any day. Kapil Dev was handy as an all-rounder but better than Sobers? You could probably put Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee, Keith Miller, Richie Benaud, Jacques Kallis, Ian Botham, Wilfred Rhodes ahead of Kapil Dev also.

  • bluey on July 19, 2011, 1:28 GMT

    This team is a joke, one of the greatest all-rounders of all time left out Garfield Sobers??? And what about Border, Botham & Muralitharan. The ICC Greatest test team of all time had very few players/choices to choose from.

  • KAIRAVA on July 19, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    Timeless test needs to be played on a belter of a pitch favouring the batsmen, not on green, bouncing, seaming wickets where the test will be over by the 4th day.

  • D.V.C. on July 19, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    Instead of a timeless Test, why not a replay in case of a draw? Save the game, start all over again.

  • rienzied on July 19, 2011, 1:04 GMT

    Virender Sehwag, Sunil Gavaskar, Donald Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Kapil Dev, Adam Gilchrist (wk), Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath. Some great names, but Shewag and Sunny, I would have loved to see the running between wickets especially towards the end of the over! No but I would have had Langer, Hayden, Greenidge and Haynes in the mix, with even Hobbs and Sutcliffe too. However Sunny would also have been in the mix too. The other exclusion is how can Kapil Dev be in the team ahead of Sir Gary Sobers???? I would even rate Kallis ahead of Dev as a batting all rounder. ...

  • on July 19, 2011, 1:03 GMT

    Its fortunate the entire 11 is not Indian ;D.. Considering the internet population of India.

  • Number_5 on July 19, 2011, 1:00 GMT

    Its good to see the ICC discussing test cricket and ways to improving the standing of test cricket amongst fans. I think this is a positive step towards a sustainable cricket culture around the globe that must have its foundations strongly set at its highest level (test cricket). Timeless test...hmm not so sure, lots of variables (such as the ptich!!) but at least test cricket is being discussed. As for the fans greatest X1 its a great team no doubt about that, plenty of players could argue their place and its probably a discussion best had with your mates over a few beers or cups of tea..

  • mak102480 on July 19, 2011, 0:51 GMT

    While I agree that Kapil Dev was an extreme selection (and he can't even be in top 3 XIs of all time), people that are bashing sehwag for greenidge and haynes are flat wrong. Len Hutton and/or Jacks Hobb over sehwag...no problem. But, just check out the stats of greenidge and haynes...avg in the mid to low 40s. I am sorry but that's just not good enough. All the WI batsmen in the 70s and 80s s had a HUGE advantage and thats two-fold: 1) They never had to face the great WI bowlers of 70s and 80s 2) They would very rarely get bouncers bowled to them 'cos the other team knew that if they bowled a lot of bouncers to WI batters their team would face a barrage of bouncers from the fiery WI bowers..............No wonder Viv Richards is against wearing a helmet...he was never fearful of coping too many bouncers.

  • ramsharat on July 19, 2011, 0:47 GMT

    A team without Gary Sobers Viv Richards, funny!!! Team should be dominated by WI and not INDIA....

  • BeCalmAndSupportEngland on July 19, 2011, 0:46 GMT

    how could they drop murali, sobers, viv richards from any great test 11?This is a real joke

  • on July 19, 2011, 0:41 GMT

    People always give personal opinion and sometimes player are overated by sheer talk n personality. Also, sometime people gain respect and recognition because of their personality and the way they carry themselves. Example, Almost 20yr since Richards retire from cricket n people still talk great about him. Well that's bias and sheer mis-judgement. The only proof of greatness is what you achieve, the physical proof to show what you achieve and how good it is compared to others.Richards 8500 runs at an average of 50 is not much better than chanderpaul. The only difference is one was a more aggressive/dominant player than the other and played in a winning TEAM. GET MY POINT. So that leaves Ambrose as the greatest fast bowler ever walk the face of earth. Kumar Sangakkara the greatest wicketkeeper/batsman, CHECK THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS/STATS. So now what is the achievements of Sehwag and Gavaskar andwhere would they place based on Stats. Has any1 look at Sehwag test record before concluding

  • on July 19, 2011, 0:39 GMT

    @Blazedragon You have got it in one!! There is no way you could have a "greatest" XI without Sobers, having Kapil Dev ahead of him is a joke. I'd have Kallis, Imran Khan, Hadlee off the top of my head as better all rounders than Kapil.

    Back to the main purpose of the article, I think the timeless test is a fine idea to decide the World Test Championship.

  • shibut on July 19, 2011, 0:37 GMT

    @Evilpengwinz - love it!!You've got a great sense of humour. Hopefully, by that time Trot'll be banned for cruel and unusual punishment:)

  • kristee on July 19, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    People's Dream XI confirms cricket is the most badly enjoyed/ followed game. No other sports would have come up with such a ridiculous choice; the geographical pattern of cricket's popularity is definitely a worry for a genuine cricket lover. Greenidge, Haynes, Bradman, Richards, Lara, Sobers, Gilchrist, Warne, Marshall, Barnes & McGrath would have been understandable, given the current generation's limited awareness. Anyway Barnes and Bradman look so formidable and walk into.

  • tradetekbiz on July 19, 2011, 0:34 GMT

    Sehwag and Gavaskar ahead of Hobbs and Hutton, Kapil Dev ahead of Sobers, Khan and Hadlee? We get it India has more people than all of the other playing nations combined, but this is getting ridiculous, the same thing happened with the cricinfo all time readers xi with the openers slots. If Kapil Dev had been a west indian or Australian or Pakistani in the 80s, he probably wouldn't even have had made the team.

  • on July 19, 2011, 0:30 GMT

    Except Don Bradman,the rest ten players are still alive and connected with cricket in some form or the other.

  • me54321 on July 19, 2011, 0:30 GMT

    Why have they diverted attention from the issue of the format of a test championship, by including yet another pointless all time eleven. What people think is the best test team really is pointless, because most of the supporters on here have only seen a fraction of the greats playing, and even then through biased eyes(myself included). Regarding the issue of a timeless test, it would be fine in theory, as long as you can trust them not to make it a batting paradise, and turn a great spectacle into a form of torture.

  • ntnb on July 19, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    Test match idea: 4 Day test match with Result - Each side will get 180 overs of batting - spanned in 2 - 90 overs an innings. whoever wins 2nd inning (like 1 day) wins the match. - A team can bat for more than 90 overs , but extra overs will be deducted from its 2nd inning quota of 90 overs. So,here is what will make it exciting.

    - A sure Oneday like result. - if a team has lost few wkts at the end of 90 overs in 1st inning, they can go for fast scoring in lets say next 20 overs (high run rate without fear of loosing wkts) & bat 70 overs sensibly in next inning. teams will do this only if they think that the runs scored in those extra overs will be fearless & 20/20 like. - if a team has lost few wkts at the end of 70 overs in 1st inning, they can go for fast scoring in next 20 overs (like 20/20) & bat full 90 overs sensibly in next inning. - If the batting team thinks that wicket is going to be bad in 4th inning, just because they have some wkts, they may bat longer in 1st inng.

  • MinusZero on July 19, 2011, 0:23 GMT

    I would have Kallis instead of Kapil Dev. Sehwag deserves his spot. He is in a class of his own. His test strike rate and average are superior to many. In the list of openers who have played more than 50 tests, he has the 4th highest average, behind 3 england players. BTW, im not indian. Want statistical proof? - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=2;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=50;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=batting

  • Meety on July 19, 2011, 0:19 GMT

    If I could waive a magic wand & make some changes, (amongst other things), I would accompany the current rankings & test championship with a test trophy. The Test trophy would run like Boxing's Title Belt. This means the holder of the Title are ALWAYS putting the title on the line. A country that wins the Test championship, holds the TROPHY AND is #1 in the rankings would then be the undisputed #1 team in the world. At the moment - I think the rankings reward a degree of mediocrity & the Test Championship may bias a team depending on WHERE the championship is played. There used to be a link on cricinfo to a site that tracked the Test Title belt from the 1st test right thru. At one stage when Zimbabwe beat Pakistan - Zimbabwe held the title!!!!! Could you imagine if ten years from now IF India were the title holders hosting Bangladesh for the first time & Shakib plays a blinder & Bangladesh win the Title - I think that would be great theatre!

  • Meety on July 19, 2011, 0:12 GMT

    LOL - Kapil Dev, you can see how 1.2billion people may have influenced the votes. Nothing against Kapil - and I understand its technically not an "All-time Great" line up. @bigdhonifan - mate the stats you put up re: Kapil are accumulative, doesn't show that Imran was a better strike bowler & worthy of a position as high as #5 in the batting order. Kapil as great an allrounder he was, was not good enough to bat higher than #8, & was no way as good a bowler as Imran. -- -- -- Timeless test - awesome! I know draws a part of cricket, but I want to see a definitive winner, I don't want rain to spoil it, although I think timeless should mean 7 days times 100 overs per day. The best sides should be able to play up-tempo (16 overs per hour) cricket even if there is extra time.

  • on July 19, 2011, 0:10 GMT

    Hobbs and Sutcliffe? Simpson and Lawry?

    They both weren't bad either. Throw Gordon and Desi and Haydos and Alfie in the mix as well, you've got some tough choosing!

    Gilchrist, great batsman and good keeper. Or since you have an amazing batting lineup, shouldn't you go for the better keeper who can also hold a bat? I'd suggest the latter, so it would be Healy.

    Any way it was the dream XI. So, everyone will have a different XI!

  • AlpiBhalla on July 19, 2011, 0:08 GMT

    Will love to see timeless test, provided pitch is supporting to bowlers and batsmen have to earn their runs!!!

  • on July 19, 2011, 0:05 GMT

    This idea is pretty brilliant. It would bring out everything a team has, and would make for good cricket.

  • bowzer on July 19, 2011, 0:03 GMT

    Sorry, but this ideas will be like having a T20 tournament with a 50 over final.

  • Muzgrob on July 18, 2011, 23:55 GMT

    The thought of Trott and Cook in a timeless test... Now that would be a sight for sore eyes, and your eyes would certainly be sore after 5 days of those two at the crease.

  • Nerk on July 18, 2011, 23:49 GMT

    hmmmm, very interesting dream team. Probably wouldn't bet it against some of the other dream teams people are proposing. Kapil Dev is a very good player, but could he turn the ball both ways, bounce Dennis Lillee with the fast ball and still score at an average over 50? Sobers is the greatest all rounder ever, no doubt about it. In reality this is the IPL dream team: Mostly Indians with a few useful additions. I'm also very unsure about this test championship thing. Sounds like the I.C.C. is trying a bit too hard.

  • khiladisher on July 18, 2011, 23:49 GMT


  • Woody111 on July 18, 2011, 23:43 GMT

    The greatest test team really just reflects the amount of Indian votes rather than an objective one; hence Kapil Dev getting in as opposed to Sobers. No big deal really but the team is a bit of a joke. Marshall was better than Ambrose and there are countless openers who deserve the spot of Sehwag and Gavaskar. In the end, who cares?

    The timeless test idea is the best idea (and most progressive) the ICC has ever had. I hope it receives unanimous support from those who count and we see a 7 day test at Lords (with plenty of rain obviously influencing the days it takes to complete).

  • hakapuu on July 18, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    @BlazeDragon: Recently when the cricinfo panel (included one member from each test playing country) picked the all time test squads A and B, Virendar sehwag and sunil gavaskar missed the opening slot in A team by a whisker to Hutton and someone else. They were part of the B team. Sehwag is the most unique test opener of all time. His average (Almost 54) and the number of runs he has scored is getting up there with the best and no one has scored those runs with that strike rate. He is only the third batsem after rbadman and lara to have two triple centuries! (He almost got a third!) Read Ian Chappells article on why he would include sehwag in the best test side of all time. He voted for him! I rest my case.

  • vishwanath.sreeraman on July 18, 2011, 23:37 GMT

    sehwag, gavaskar, dravid, tendulkar,vishwanath,kapil dev, dhoni,kumble, VENKATESH PRASAD,chandrasekhar;

    oh wait , its a world'xi:

    sehwag,gavaskar,dravid,tendulkar,BRADMAN,kapil dev,dhoni,kumble,VENKATESH PRASAD,zaheer,chandrasekhar;

  • Venki_indian on July 18, 2011, 23:35 GMT

    Kapil is a great all rounder for india..but he can be replaced with sobers..not sure how did they miss him; Sehwag not good enough to be here;

  • Alexk400 on July 18, 2011, 23:31 GMT

    Play 20/20 at the end of TEST to decide winner. Hahaha. Joke aside it is simple. Play 6 days and it can spread over 8 days in worst condition. Start early by 9:00am local time. Last issue if they still daw , you decide winner by total run rate (1st+2nd ).

  • on July 18, 2011, 23:22 GMT

    Viv Richards over lara any day, Sobers over Kapil any day (being an indian), Marshal over McGrath... sewag, for all those people who keep talking about how sewag is a good inclusion, i would think otherwise. ONLY because he is a batsmen who has the ability to change the match in one day, he doesnt play test matches like testmatches, he acctually goes at the bowlers with out any fear and a batsmen who has 48 boundaries in one innings of 250, cannot be called not dangerous. He is an awsome batsmen, he changed the face of test cricket, he made people realize that there is no reason to go at 2 runs an over as opposed to 4 or 5. So yes deserves a place, but perhaps, maybee would think atleast twice before voting him in.

  • Blazedragon on July 18, 2011, 23:09 GMT

    This is not who was suppose to be the "greatest" test squad not the "most popular" test sqaud. Putting Kapil Dev and Virender Sehwag in there is a joke. There are plenty better than them.

  • on July 18, 2011, 23:09 GMT

    To me timeless test is a good idea, with the inclusion of latest technology like DRS, and snickometer, and hawk eye. People wanna come to see someone winning, unfortunately rain can sometimes destroy the fun. To revive cricket latest technology and no more complications, just cricket, hard fought one. Let the best team win.

  • Evilpengwinz on July 18, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    I thought this was a reasonable idea, but then I remembered that the England squad at the moment might actually get into a final. Therefore, this proposal is ridiculous as Jonathan Trott's health would be at risk as he would dig himself into a 100ft crevice in the middle of the pitch. I wouldn't fancy being stuck in a massive hole in the middle of a cricket pitch in Mumbai, or Colombo...:\

  • msvknight on July 18, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    I'm sorry guys, but Greenidge AND Haynes are better than Sehwag. People on a poll vote with their heart's not their heads. Warne and Tendulkar deserve to be there, but the others are just plain wrong. I notice the team is all Indians, plus the Aussies that ended their careers in IPL plus Lara, Akram and Bradman. Bradman being the best bat of all time is almost religious dogma and while Akram is the best Pakistani ever, I doubt he was better than Sobers (he'd admit that himself). And Lara was never better than Richards. He was a flat track bully. All this poll proves is that there are more people in India than other cricket loving countries. Go figure!

  • Stark62 on July 18, 2011, 22:57 GMT

    Also, my all time XI would be: Greenidge, Gavaskar, Bradman, Viv, Tendulkar, Sobers, Imran (cpt), Knott (Wkt), Marshall, Wasim, Warne

    It has everything to be successful!

  • getsetgopk on July 18, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    that team seems to be a dream of the dream team by the indians. more of a wishful thinking. wasim would have never had made it to 'dream' xi had he not been coaching KKR. picking sehwag ahead of richards is just a joke and prefering kapil over khan i can only say WOW !

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Viv Richards over lara any day, Sobers over Kapil any day (being an indian), Marshal over McGrath... sewag, for all those people who keep talking about how sewag is a good inclusion, i would think otherwise. ONLY because he is a batsmen who has the ability to change the match in one day, he doesnt play test matches like testmatches, he acctually goes at the bowlers with out any fear and a batsmen who has 48 boundaries in one innings of 250, cannot be called not dangerous. He is an awsome batsmen, he changed the face of test cricket, he made people realize that there is no reason to go at 2 runs an over as opposed to 4 or 5. So yes deserves a place, but perhaps, maybee would think atleast twice before voting him in.

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Atleast 8 to 10 catch drop confirm, except for gilchrist, if u want bradman and sunny in ur team than u have to wait for atleast a month for the result,

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:42 GMT

    a team without imran khan.i blatantly refuse this team.with respect to all the champion allrounders i woukd like to say none of them is parallel to king khan

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:37 GMT

    Greenidge, Haynes, Ponting/Sachin, Richards, Zaheer Abbas, Imran, Gilchrist, Wasim, Warne, Holding, Hadlee First of all in any gr8 test 11, you need two inseparable openers, Greenidge and Haynes were all time gr8, than how can u leave the most destructive batsman the world has ever seen, Richards. Abbas is well known as asian bradman. Than u need a skipperto lead an all time 11, we have seen in the past rest of the world 11 been crushed by aussies because of no leadership, imran is the best, others could be greg chappel or clive, Gilchrist is the keeper of all time for me, wasim has already there, warne the best legspinner in the world, holding the whispering death, and hadlee the fiersome fast bowler

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:32 GMT


  • CollisKing on July 18, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    Well my team (based on players I have seen) to face the "People's Dream XI" would be: Greenidge, B. Richards, V. Richards, Ponting, Kallis, Lloyd (Cpt), Knott (Wk), Hadlee, Marshall, Imram, Murali. Who would win ?

  • simonviller on July 18, 2011, 22:25 GMT

    Very funny ,or very biased ,whichever. Those who have omitted Sir Garfield Sobers on this suggested team obviously are too young to have seen him in his multiple talented formats of the game . As a batsman only Sir Don can compare ; a s a bowler in any form ,none other has done it ; as a fielder ,no one ever compared ,no matter what part of the field ;as a game changer ,as good as any other ;as a gentleman ,no finer could be found ...When mostly the opinions of one region are counted ,that's what you get .

  • Manush on July 18, 2011, 22:25 GMT

    I am an admirer of Kapil but to nominate him ahead of Sobers or Botham for that slot is debatable.Rest of the players fit in to my dream eleven.

  • vverma on July 18, 2011, 22:24 GMT

    If two teams take more than five days to decide who is better, they are equal in my book. There is no number 1. You might as well toss a coin and hand the cup. Test matches decided after the 5th day will depend less on talent/grit and more on who will be batting on a 6th day mine field and whose side is Lady luck on. But if the weather has caused a lack of result then it would seem reasonable to make up for the lost time.

  • mitgop11 on July 18, 2011, 22:23 GMT

    For a test championship to happen,we need a level playing field. I mean, all teams must play each other same number of times home and away. India dont even tour bangladesh while Sri Lanka is not getting to play more than 3 tests in a series. How can someone create a league when the league members are playing different number of games under different conditions against different oppositions ? People who run ICC are gloriously inept in understanding what test cricket is. Timeless test is another mindless idea!

  • johnathonjosephs on July 18, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    Lol the test 11 is a supreme joke..... the way it is picked is biased, the votes will obviously be dominated by Indian voters who comprise of 1+ billion people.... Kapil Dev, Sehwag, and Gavaskar in the All time 11? Wow... No sobers, no hadlee, no murali? man its a joke that aside wonder who will play in the timeless test

  • sashraf on July 18, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    I dont think that Kapil Dev and Sunil Gavasker deserve the place there. Imran Khan is much much better than Mr. Dev.

  • mightymf2000 on July 18, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    Why on earth is SEHWAG in the team. Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton and Matthe Hayden are way better than him. With the bowling attack I don't think you actually need Dev or if there has to be one make it SOBERS who is the best all rounder ever. And with the championship the ICC should maybe make it 6 day tests or if drawn even though it's tests were talking about maybe have a super over or something.

  • vparisa on July 18, 2011, 22:13 GMT

    Relax people. Its People's Dream XI and obviously there would be more Indians. What did you expect? I bet lot of votes came from my country and you should be happy that there is no Dhoni :). I would swap Kapil Dev for Gary Sobers, Viru for Len Hutton, Glenn McGrath for Malcom Marshall. No way Richards is making in for Lara and no one is replacing Sunny G(he deserves it for scoring so many runs against the most fearsome bowling line up of all time)

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    Out of the all rounders of that era; Botham, Hadlee, Imran Khan, over Kapil Dev anyday. Good cricketer but not a great. That guy is way over rated, just looking at the averages Botham n co look better players!

  • dhilipthesachinfan on July 18, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    There we go.. Here is the ICC now coming up with a plan to kill the bowlers !!!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 22:05 GMT


  • bigdhonifan on July 18, 2011, 21:53 GMT

    Sunny is the greatest test opener of all time.. He scored centuries against strongest bowling line up on their on back yards.... Hobbs , Hutton will come after that ( they scored heavily in first class matches)... Sunny can anchor one side!!! So sunny is there, you need an attacking batsman at another end right??? Who can Score at a strike rate of 90+??? Who can score 200 runs in a single day???? answer is Sehwag!

  • kevihs on July 18, 2011, 21:49 GMT

    okay first of all....timeless tests is not a new concept. A lot of test matches in the20's and 30's were timeless. And the longest match ever was of 9 days between SA and England,that too on a belter of a pitch. On a good batting pitch with a little assistance to bowlers the match should be over in 6-7 days.And this is the final of the test championship we are talking about. One way or another we need a winner.Please stop this ridiculous talk about the virtues of a well fought drawn match.Its only for the final people.Imagine a ODI world cup with a drawn final(scores tied) and two world champions.God. And yes Kapil Dev is a very biased choic. eHad to be Sir Sober imo.McGrath and Ambrose a little less debatable.But otherwise i dont have much problem with the team.Warne/Murali was a toss up.So was Gili/Sanga.I woulda gone for Warne and Gil,but any one of the 4 combinations woulda been alright. And all the people crying about Sehwag,please go check his statistics.Avg of over 56 and

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on July 18, 2011, 21:49 GMT

    @Kotigalage Dhanushka@ who would you suggest?? Tharanga & Dilshan????????

  • khiladisher on July 18, 2011, 21:47 GMT


  • Cricruise on July 18, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    I think timeless tests would be going backwards and it might make it boring..Heres what I would suggest

    5 days (If it rains, have reserve days to get by ALL the overs)

    Each team gets 120 overs per innings (100 overs per day) If you get the other team out under 120 overs, then you take over all their overs. For example: if team A gets the team B out in 80 overs, then they get 120+40= 160 overs in their innings....And if team B gets out under 120 overs then team A regains the over advantage.

    Teams can declare at any point and all their remaining overs will be lost.

    Same test rules apply otherwise...This will somewhat make teams focus on scoring rate as well which I think is the main setback of test cricket.

  • the_Srikanth on July 18, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    The above team is just wrong. It should be 1.Jack Hobbs 2.Herbert Sutcliffe 3.Don Bradman 4.Sachin Tendulkar 5.Brian Lara 6.Andy Flower 7.Kallis/Sobers/Imran 8.Wasim 9.Ambrose 10.Murali 11.Mcgrath

    Like you see, the only spot I am undecided about is the allrounder's spot. Kallis and Sobers have records which put both of them way above the rest, without being able to pick a clear winner. I would give Kallis the edge though. Imran comes into the picture for his captaincy and acumen, which this talented team clearly lacks.

  • Metman on July 18, 2011, 21:44 GMT

    People ,according to the Oxford Student's Dictionary,the word Dream is as follows:(1) a series of pictures or events in a SLEEPING person's mind (2) the state of mind in which someone is DAYDREAMING or not FULLY AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS !Therefore I can fully understand why people would leave out a player like Garfield Sobers (the greatest allround cricketer in this world or the next).To leave out Sobers is like leaving out flour when baking bread.Forgeting to include Sobers in any World XI,is akin to forgeting that you have to have an erection before intercourse.Sobers is the first name one would called , one would then then decide on who to include for the the other 10 places.Furthermore,Viv Richards,and not selfish Lara,and Malcom Marshall must be included by those who are not in the Dream mode.

  • on July 18, 2011, 21:39 GMT

    Worrell Weekes Walcott Sobers Imran Trueman Hobbs Hutton Barnes all these legends are more deserving than Kapil Shewag and Gavaskar

  • khiladisher on July 18, 2011, 21:38 GMT


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  • JKSFB on July 18, 2011, 21:31 GMT

    ICC Test XI is a joke...you cannot have a test XI without Kallis..period...I am an Indian fan, but I strongly resent the presence of Sehwag and Kapil Dev in the team....come on... It is clear as day that Gavaskar and Tendulkar will be in the team as all time greats.....Sehwag may be a great bat in this era, but surely neither him nor Kapil are all time greats....There is no question that batsmen who faced the great windies attacks of the 70s and 80s, and the great aussie attacks would need to be given extra credit...otherwise we may as well select the XI by just numbers...in that case border, lara, dravid will all make the XI

  • Donawa on July 18, 2011, 21:31 GMT

    How can a world team include Kapil Dev before Sir Garfield Sobers, Malcolm Marshall should also play before Glen McGrath. Sir Garry was a better bowler (both fast & slow) than Kapil Dev and a far superior batsman. I will not even bring fielding into the dicussion. Marshall could do the same things as McGrath and more. He could swing the ball both ways at pace. Some batsman also has to make way for Sir Vivian Richards

  • Dilmah82 on July 18, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    From this team, clearly the majority that voted were born in the last 25-30 years and probably from the Indian subcontinent. Sobers is the greatest cricketer to have played the game. How can he be left out! He could make it into any side with any aspect of tyhe game as he had every skill.

  • cstriker on July 18, 2011, 21:25 GMT

    Timeless test = a big mistake, you'd lose more crowd for a never ending boring test cricket.... I do agree that in principle any game played by two teams should not result in a draw, there should be a clear winner... I propose either 20/20 or 10/10 game after a day with unchanged side and whoever has the most runs scored wins ...

  • phoenixsteve on July 18, 2011, 21:22 GMT

    I think that from reading the comments that most true (non Indian!) cricket lovers see the 'dream team' is a nightmare! Why not have a team comprising of JUST one player from each test playing nation - with the exception being 2 Aussies as the Don is without doubt the greatest of them all? You could have something like (in no particualr order).... Jack Hobbs (Eng) Don Bradman (Aus) Gary Sobers (WI) Sachin Tendulkar (India) Martin Crowe (NZ) Mutia Muralitheran (SL) Imran Khan (Pak) Dennis Lillee (Aus) Jacques Kallis (SA) and then it gets hard.... with somebody from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh! Sure, unless there's a good WK from the two minnows (Bang & Zim) Sobers would have to keep wicket. If you discount these 2 countries the door opens up for 2 wildcards such as Godfrey Evans, Alan Knott, Adam Gilcrest, Rod Marsh or Alec Stuart and also Malcolm Marshall, Shane Warne, Fred Truman, Graeme Pollock, Bobby Simpson, Richard Hadlee, Barry and Viv Richards. What a team? But who would they play?

  • CMIS on July 18, 2011, 21:20 GMT

    @Peter Gibson, amen to that. Let's see 250,000 people voted. I'm guessin 210,000 were Indians. They should have a weighing system so that each country has equal representation. kapil dev, I like the guy, he was one of my favs growing up, but c'mon, except garry sobers, only imran khan or Keith Miller should have the allrounder's place. Kapil's bowling average was more than 29 and his batting average was 31, and he played on for far too long. Personally, he should have retired when he hit the 250 wicket mark, because then he would have been remembered as the lion-hearted cricketer he was. But seriously.... no sobers!!??? and from the game's official website.

  • pawanmp on July 18, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    Timeless Test? they are just spoiling every bit of test cricket thats left with their so called innovativeness!! no one always expects/wants a result all the time [then whats the difference b/n ODI-T20 ], its all about survival showing ur character.. my XI would be.. Jack Hobbs, Sunil Gavaskar, Donald Bradman, Viv Richards (c), Brian Lara, Sir Garfield Sobers, Knott (wk), Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Marshall, Alan Donald.

    PS: btw, these online polls are a joke!

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on July 18, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    My team is- Greenidge, Shewagag, Bradman,Lara, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Malcolm, Wasim, Lillee, Warne. No team can beat them! Ambrose and Waqa Youness better thank Mcgrath by far.

  • BillyCC on July 18, 2011, 21:13 GMT

    The team isn't too much of a surprise. It's based on current viewership of the website which I am sure comprises many sub-continent fans, the majority of which are under 40 years old. Had this been done on a predominantly Australia, English or Carribean website, the results would look completely different. I'm surprised that Bradman made the list, but I guess this reinforces again the fact that he is the greatest batsman of all time in that even though a handful of the voters would have seen him play (voters would have to be 70 or above), he still makes the list based on sheer legend.

  • DaveMansell on July 18, 2011, 21:12 GMT

    it never quite made sense to have 2 innings each side in a match...well if it's all about quality batting and bowling...it could just as well be proved in 1 inning each....why 2 ? it's an unwanted legacy... and even a 3-4 day test would prove enough.... and if anyone disagrees....well then why just 2....why not 3 or 4.... save the game...and the time ...

  • on July 18, 2011, 21:10 GMT

    So many Indian names just because there are just too many of us. Sehwag and Kapil don't deserve to be there, as much as I love and admore him. Kallis has proved himself to be the best of all time, yes in my opinion, ahead of Sobers. Seriously, Lara ahead of Viv Richards?

  • DaveMansell on July 18, 2011, 21:06 GMT

    sehwag and kapil dev in world 11 on the expense of sobers and viv richards.... whoaa...sounds wicked mate !!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:59 GMT

    Both Imran Khan and Sobers are more deserving of the allrounder's spot. And Sehwag, hmm?

  • estwickg on July 18, 2011, 20:59 GMT

    A timeless test might be very boring. Some of these batsmen will bat for 3 & 4 days. I think the ICC should consider limiting test matches to 2 days with an extra day for the elements. Each side should be limited to 50 overs in each innings with a 100 overs per day (of course the rules of test cricket must be followed except for amendments for wides) . You must get a result that is either win, loss or tie - no draws, and it will be very exciting.

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:58 GMT

    I see no harm in it, it's a one off match...although if it's a really really flat wicket then could go on for ages!

  • Yorker_ToeCrusher on July 18, 2011, 20:54 GMT

    Timeless cricket..I like the idea.Test cricket needs to re invent itself and make people start talking about it again.However I don't think any match will go on for more than 6 days in this era,surely timelessness will ensure that impact of weather is negated and true champion will emerge end of the day.

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:51 GMT

    Its People Dream XI, Well, I am an Indian.. To be frank this should be published as Indian People Dream XI. I dont know why there are some ordinary Indian players like Gavaskar..

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    Kapil Dev in a dream team ..what a joke... I suggest Ravi Shastri should open the batting along with Kris Srikanth and Vantkatesh Prasad to open bowling with Debasish Mohanty ...that would be a true dream team...wasim Akram should never be in it...

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:44 GMT

    not a bad team. sir gary sobers must have been in for kapil dev.!

  • mynyc9 on July 18, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    Timeless ? Though the idea seem to be cliched, it would definitely turn out to be a very bad idea. And what is this dream team ? People? Who are those 'people' ? Shame to see Sehwag and Gavaskar in the best test xi without Sir.Garfield SObers and Kallis .

  • mautan on July 18, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    @rana2000. Once you have stopped laughing, try to find one cricketer who in last 125 years and 2000 test matches has 5000 runs and 400 test wickets. By the way 5000 always was the criteris for a test class batsman and 400 was always the criteria to aspire for greatness in bowling...only one person had these figures. KAPIL DEV NIKHANJ...and he won a WC as a captain.

  • bigdhonifan on July 18, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    Imran Khan has 3807 runs and 362 wickets!! Kapil has 5248 runs and 434 wickets!!! Kapil is any day better than Imran, Kallis and Sobers!!!

  • bansi.rdx on July 18, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    Please!! Instead make pitch that supports bowlers. Dont make flatbeds. No one wants to complaint about th pitches which have batting wickets. Any match which finishes in 3-4 days is always critisized for making a bad pitch. If the game is in Lords then make a pitch with grass on. Or play on a open surface, dont cover the pitches during the game nights. Timeless test is ridiculous. Also, the dream team is a joke. Here is what the Dream XI should look like: Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Azharuddin, Laxman, Dhoni, Kapil, Bhajji, Kumble, Zaheer.( V Raju 12th man)

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    Dravid and chanderpaul should open the batting and remaining line up can go on a vocation for a month or so ;d

  • ElPhenomeno on July 18, 2011, 20:35 GMT

    I understand the need for a clear winner. You cannot have a championship and not have a clear winner. Can you imagine spain and holland both sharing the football world cup?? That would be ludicrous.

    However, I too feel cricket is too much tampered with nowdays. Every 6 months there are new set of regulations or technology introduction then backtracking on those rules and re-jigging starts all over again. Its almost as if not enough thought has been put in some of these issues. Now Timeless Test. Boy I hope guys like Kallis, Dravid or even Tendulkar dont make it into this test and decide to drop the anchor on a pancake of a pitch. You'd have fun time drawing the result in that game. Fielders will be dropping of exhaustion more than anything else. Bad idea.

    I support the end goal but not the manner in which they want to achieve in. There has to be a better way. Maybe look at the overall performance of the team thruout the competition.

  • xylo on July 18, 2011, 20:34 GMT

    I am in two minds about timeless tests. While it might give you a winner, I don't agree that a draw does not mean a result. When the tailenders defy the bowlers for a session to enforce a draw, that is as thrilling as a win.

    As for the People's Dream Test XI, the most populous country enforces the mandate, and it is pretty evident.

  • San1 on July 18, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    No Viv Richards - you have got to be kidding me...

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:32 GMT

    Hey, you people wanted to do things the old fashioned way, the traditional way, spurning and scorning any attempt to evolve and develop the game...and now you've got it!

  • LeftBrain on July 18, 2011, 20:28 GMT

    Well as far as all time great team is concerned, it is interesting it didnt even appear as an individual article on this website, clearly suggesting how ridiculous this so-called all time great team is, with people voting from India and Australia only this is what you will get. As a rule of thumb, any team that has the most mediocre all-rounder of the quadret, Kapil Dev in it, or one-dimensioned Sehwag in it, or the mediocre Gavaskar in it, can not be the greatest team of a single era, let alone an all-time great team. Any team that doesnt include Gary Sobers, Holding, Marshal, Haidlee, Imran Khan, Viv Richards can not be declared an-all time great team.

  • bigdhonifan on July 18, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    Timeless tests?? India Vs England match will go for 50 days!!!

  • bigdhonifan on July 18, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    Sreelankans!!!! Please dont ask to include Sanga.... he is a good cricketer... He is the best batsman in Srilanka, but not in the world!! if u have Sunny, Viru, bradman, Sachin and lara... so u need sanga??? but i prefer Murali over Shane warne! Murali is any day better than Shane!

  • Whisperofdeath on July 18, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    Gary Sobers should be there instead of Kapil Dev and I think Gordon Greendige is far more better than Sehwag. Surprisingly, no Viv Richards...

  • TeamSelector on July 18, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    With all due respect to Gilly (he will definitely walk into any team in World Cricket) ......... but, there's only one keeper who can 'truly' make this a timeless Test ........ bowlers fear him as much as they feared King Viv .......... Kamran Akmal ;-)

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    @kriskini... this is a Test match, not a buffet... I was with you till 450 and then you fell far from the tree... and as for criticism over the Dream Test 11... mind you most of the voters have little knowledge of Test history and are probably mostly from India... so, don't get too crazy over it... it's a public poll...

  • kooththan on July 18, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    Timeless test would be a bad idea. The batsmen will play very defensive and can make for really boring, really long matches. Time management - knowing when to accelerate, picking the right moment to declare an innings, etc - is a crucial part of test match strategy. To me, this is what sets the test format apart and above other formats. Taking that away will be just plain silly.

    If anything, they can make provisions so that overs are not lost to bad light or rain.

  • elpistorelo on July 18, 2011, 20:17 GMT

    @Umear No way Imran Khan is better than Kapil... But if you Say Gary Sobers I would say yes. He should be taking the all rounder position. Funny thing is I cant see an English man... and I cant see a South African as well...Where is Kallis?

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    Sehwag ahead of players like Viv Richards and Gary Sobers? I'm sorry, a player who averages 35 in ODIs is not making my dream team. And Kapil Dev ?? Great captain, great leader, but honestly... get Sir Sobers in you have 5 decent bowlers there, you could even give Mr Dev's spot to a specialist batsman. And no disrespect to Curtly Ambrose, the world has seen better fast bowlers...even from within the Caribbean.

  • SAA007 on July 18, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    It really is sad to see a player like kapil dev in the so-called best team of all time....the man is no where near the best all-rounder of all time....gary sobbers,imran khan and kallis all are much better and superior all-rounders than that guy. It clearly shows who voted for this so-called 'dream team'!!!on the other hand,the timeless test for the final is a gud idea & shud be worked on!

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    I don't believe people can be so much biased with their opinions. I have seen some comments suggesting that Sunil Gavaskar and Sehwag shouldn't be there. They should check with great west Indian bowlers of 80s-90s or Garry Sobers (who actually said that Sunil was the greatest batsman he saw) or Dickie Bird (great umpire who have seem nay batting). He said that Sunil was best opening batsman he saw. As far as Sehwag, goes, he is the only one having more than 90 strike rate in Test cricket with four 250 score (more than anyone). He was so close to 3 300s (would have broke the Don's record and would have been first batsman with 3 300s). He also has fastest 200, 300 and 100 in test cricket. what else do u guys want. Kapil dev could have been replaced by Garry Sobers as all-rounder. I don't know though much about Garry Sobers but I have seen Kapil playing. A genuine fighter, good fielder, bowler, captain and batsman. A true match winner. He was first Asian captain to win WC for his country.

  • bhaloniaz on July 18, 2011, 20:10 GMT

    Kapil Dev? Was he a better bowler than Imran or better Batsman than Imran?How about Sobers? No Hadlee, No Marshall. Kapil Dev. Pretty soon most world eleven would become indian eleven. You have to pick players regardless of region. Thats the whole idea of picking the world eleven.

  • on July 18, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    we the people decides the peoples dream team ...many may have different opinions , but when you have that freedom you didnt utilise it for you.even though i didnt want sunil gavaskar in my dream team I would have gone to the wall RAHUL DRAVID instead.but please dont talk bad about kapil included for sobers as he is our chambion who brought the worldcup to India when it matters fighting with those legends in west indies at the hardest pitches.

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    A horrid dream team...!!! How on earth you could leave out Sobers or Imran and put in Kapil??? Even a child could say thay among Botham, Hadlee, Kapil, Imran... Imran was way ahead followed by Headlee and Botham. Kapil will always come below these three. And in addition, Imran could have been the Captain of this team. And I would have taken Lara as an opener along with Sunil Gawaskar and added Kallis instead of Sehwag. It would balance the team. Then add Sangakara (Average of almost 57 with so many double centuries) in place of Gilchrist (Ave of 47). I really wanted to get Richard in but then I will have to remove Sachin. Also, I would prefer Murali over Warne and Marshal over Mcgrath. And take Warne as 12th man to come in place of Ambrose if the wicket is spin friendly. Now the team becomes: Sunil Gavaskar, Brian Lara, Donald Bradman, Kallis, Richards, Imran Khan, Sangakara (wk), Murali, Wasim Akram, Marshal, Ambrose, Warne (12th man).

  • dukhimanmere on July 18, 2011, 19:57 GMT

    Timeless Test? Oh boy, now Sachin will be eying that to set some more great records. Mr. Lara, do you want to get your 500 now?

    It is going to be interesting. May be I'll save some vacation days to go see this match (a couple of days, at least).

    BTW, the dream team should have had Richards, Walsh, Kalish, Miandad, Muralitheran, Rahul Dravid, BC Lara.... oh well...!

  • KingOwl on July 18, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    Kapil Dev in the deam team? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! It's 5 minutes since I finished reading. I am still laughing!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:53 GMT

    Timeless tests - you are joking? Since when did a draw cease to be a legitimate result?

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:50 GMT

    @ ashes61 well said bro...it is a team consisted of 7 non-indians how's that possible. india is number one side in test and off course a world cup winning team so this should be the "peoples dream XI". Indians are cting like this is the first time a side is both world champion and no.1 test side, non of the team have,'t achieved it before. i think this is enough. ICC should now merge in BCCI or stop this non-sense.

  • kriskini on July 18, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    Timeless test make it altogather a different type of game. My suggestion is it should be 5 five day test. But 90 overs a day and 450 overs altogather in 5 days must be completed. If not the match should continue till all 450 overs are completed. If no result then there shoudl be a tie breaker like 20 overs for each side and who ever claims more wicket will be the champion. If still no result then world championship should be shared.

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    Tosl i couldn't agree more. The ICC is the BCCI - Gavaskar and Sehwag opening? Give me strength.

  • rivernile on July 18, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    I am not so sure that a "time less" test is a good solution. There are strategies that teams employ either to draw a test or avoid a defeat. I don't think that such moves should be over looked or slighted. One solution could be to make up the overs (or days) missed due to any natural causes, like rain or Harbanjan's mood swings, at the end of the game. This should ensure results for most games.

  • bhaloniaz on July 18, 2011, 19:41 GMT

    Yeah test wickets can be even more flat. Then flat track bullies can stay in the wicket for months and at some point the test will end (may be when Sachin crosses 60). With good wickets there will be results in 5 days except for rain. Providing an extra day for weather related loss would not be that bad. Timeless test must be coming from flat track bullies.

  • Umear on July 18, 2011, 19:39 GMT

    what the hell surely imran khan is more deserved of a place in dream xi then kspil dev!!!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    There can be no test team in this world or the next without SIR GARFIELD SOBERS

  • stormy16 on July 18, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    Interesting idea the timeless test but prepairing a sporting wickets will be cruitial for this series and that will take care of time factor but I think it will be a good idea to go in to a timeless test. Kapil Dev was good but really he doesnt make a top seven batsman. When you got the 4 specialist bowlers like that what is needed is a back up bowler who can bat and Botham and Sobers surely are better but for me Kallis wins it by a country mile. Perfect 5th bowler who can bat in the top seven as a specialist batsman and field in the slips with Warne

  • DaGameChanger on July 18, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    KAPIL DEV...first all-rounder of that era to win a WC and by beating none other than great West Indies of 80s. Its like Bangladesh thinking of beating Australia of this past era. You should thank him for what cricket is in sub-continent. None other all rounder won WC except Imran Khan eventually. Remember this was an era of greats like Ian Botham, Imran Khan and none other than my favorite Richard Hadlee. Ian Botham was great but he always failed when it mattered most according to me, Imran Khan was really good but he really excelled after arrival of great Wasim Akram (already in the list), Richard Hadlee just had too much mediocre players to compensate for at that time. Although I would say Gary Sobers should be in that list whether Kapil Dev is or not.

  • Smithie on July 18, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    Any chance we can have predictive UDRS technology tested, funded and made mandatory for the Test Championship of 2013?

  • wiiCricket on July 18, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    Is it people's dream XI? Really? Sehwag? Kapil? Gilchrist? - Please seriously people grow out from modern day team fraternity. Go beyond.

  • krinyan on July 18, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    @Werner Rousseau .... stop being silly bro... if u want players from greatest test teams... why not select five from Australia from 90's and 6 from the great WI team of 80's and finish the debate. this is a dream team and it was voted by 2,50,000 people worldwide... sehwag is there because of the starts he provide to team india and the main reason for why india is at no.1 today... it removes the burden from the formidable middle border. even i voted on ICC's website and only two players are missing from my dream team... Jacques kallis[for kapil dev] and muralitharan[for warne]... the rest of them same and its justified if u actually knew the options they have given. rahul dravid's name was not even in the list of options though he is the third highest run getter of all time.

  • tosl on July 18, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    LOL at the team selection, you can tell out of the 250,000 who voted, 249000 were Indian.

    International cricket is going to the dogs, the media are so biased towards India it has become cringeworthy, and sadly the rest of us have to put up with not only this, but the irritating Indian fans who spot garbage on a daily basis.

    I doubt international cricket will even be around by 2013 to have this timeless test, and I guarantee if India are not in it, it won't happen anyway. Cricket has become a complete joke.

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    I like a timeless test. Then there is no reason for slow over rates or negative tactics. You go for the win or you loose. No batting out the last hour. Won't make it boring because there is nowhere to hide. Will be over in 3-4 days unless the pitch is flat.

  • nasiralikhan on July 18, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    I think Jacques Kallis and Viv Richards should be there, Viv has basically review the test cricket with his aggressive/dominance batting he cannot missed out.. Kallis is three players in one.. I would rather drop Kapil dev and Ambrose..

  • Zahidsaltin on July 18, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Offcourse indian votes surpass all the other voters. Kapil Dev in the best ever eleven while sobers, botham, imran sit out?? hahaha. Its a shame to devalue it by indians. Then who thinks, Sehwag could even have an average of 25 if he was playing in 80s/90s fast wickets, without helmet facing Marshel, Holding, Imran, Hadlee, Garner, Waqar, Lille and Thomsen. Just take an example of bit faster wickets of England, NZ and SA and see what is his average there. There are only two indians who find a place in this team and ther are Gavesker and Sachin. Any team without Sobers, Richards, Marshel cant be called a world 11.

  • ashes61 on July 18, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    A People's Dream Team? Really?? And what people would these be, I ask? ICC website? And which "people" look as that, we may wonder? Now let's have a look at the team selected. Can it possibly be right? Come on! Over half the side are non-Indian - surely that can't be correct? Is there really room for 7 non-Indians in the side? Surely a dream team of all time should include 11 Indians? After all, that would be more or less in line with the usual comments here. Four Indians & not a single Englishman. Still, perhaps the umpires are English - or would they be too biased? Couldn't have that, could we? It seems what was clearly a banal exercise in the first place has been left in ridicule by the publication of this selection! Now, if the poll had been conducted among non-Indians, I wonder if any Indians would have got in. I doubt it. Ranji would be the strongest Indian candidate, but who could you leave out? Grace? Hobbs? Trumper? Hammond? Sobers? Botham? I don't think so, do you?

  • sidzy on July 18, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    DREAM 11 - Mark Taylor (c), Sachin Tendulkar, Don Bradman, Graeme Pollock, Viv Richards, Gary Sobers, Adam Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, Shane Warne, Malcaom Marshall, Curtly Ambrose, Dennis Lillee.

    Mark Taylor is their to lead a side of different nations and big huge attitude ones.

  • Dr.Hasan on July 18, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    The team is a JOKE much like the ICC and many of the member boards.

  • Rahulbose on July 18, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    Only an ICC executive can come up with such quixotic ideas. Leaving aside the obvious impracticality of "timeless" tests when tournament schedules are built around TV slots. There is also the small matter that such a format would result in the most defensive games ever played.

  • nlambda on July 18, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    Am Indian and say that selection of Kapil over Sobers is just hilarious!

  • AdmireZAK on July 18, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    whoooa whts this...looks like ICC 'THINK TANK' put all their brains to convince India on DRS now they all lost their ability to think wise..what if players like Dravid and Chandrapal or Sanga start batting will they can be get out on their day...if this gets implemented, guys get ready for month loong test match..MAY BE

  • sharidas on July 18, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    Yeah imagine that ! A timeless test ! No declarations, No follow ons, Put in some modern day Trevor Baileys, Ken Mackays, Geoff Boycotts, and TV playbacks........ Yeah ! Why not ? Lets kill the Game !

  • wibblewibble on July 18, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    It's not such a bad idea. In England, even a flat track that has 5 days of play on it will be a bit tricky, so teams wouldn't be batting out 160-over 3rd or 4th innings. Plus, it tends to rain quite a bit over here, so allowing extra days for a result can only be good in my opinion.

  • asterix.gaul on July 18, 2011, 19:19 GMT

    This problem can be solved by starting games at 9.30 am instead of 11.00 am. Thus the issue of bad light which happens in the latter case would occur around the 90 over mark and not the 75 over mark. Cut the lunch break to 35 minutes and the tea break of 15. And allow the game to go on each day till light is bad. You'll get results, get in all 90 overs, and you won't need a timeless test.

  • whatthecook on July 18, 2011, 19:15 GMT

    11 great players, you could add or take away several of these players, however...... who's going to do the fielding? a team of great players is not the greatest team!

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:14 GMT

    Kapil dev. I tore my hair. My goodness. Hahahahaaha. Can't comment more

  • cricfan2007 on July 18, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    ICC must have lost its mind. Nothing is timeless in this world including our lives. Such match will be boring to death. People like Gavaskar and Hanif mohammad will return who will occupy the crease for nothing for days. Now if it take 5 days to end first innings of one team, then what is the point ? Also, the team batting second will have advantage in such format. Pure nonsense. This reasonably. May be consider 100 over each side. So teams will score quickly and also apply technique to survive for 100 overs.

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    where's kallis???????????u r jus freaking me out???????????

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:09 GMT

    Biggest populace which follows cricket is of Indians. It's no surprise that this dream team is almost Indian.. Imran and Sobers missing out.. oh well, that's how the votes are. And timeless test. ICC will keep on committing these goof ups until some one's going to wring the neck and then we'll have something sensible..

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    Today I've started hating cricket..........Simply ridiculous team selection!

  • on July 18, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    This is a stupid concept as it is impossible to compare players from pre-helmet with helmet era. However, if one were to pick such a team, it is surely ludicrous to exclude, such greats as Sobers, Hobbs, Hammond & Compton. Clearly those who voted on this know very little about cricket's great players of the past, with only Bradman from the pre-war generation.

  • sams235 on July 18, 2011, 19:00 GMT

    Timeless tests? You got to be kidding me. Srilanka would aim 2000+ runs instead of 952.

  • frommoonman on July 18, 2011, 19:00 GMT

    Gary Sobers = Kapil + Imran + Botham + Hadlee + Kallis

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    Very true; Test cricket, like any real sporting competition, needs context. No matter how they end up doing the final, it's important for the competition for there to be one.

    A "timeless" test on a good wicket will probably not take (much) more than 5 days anyway, provided the over rate is kept at an acceptable level.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    This is why you need some experts who make up 50% of the vote. This team is selected by people who have no recollection of the greats of years gone by. Shows a bias towards the largest voting population. Seriously can't see Kapil dev making Australia(Keith Miller), South Africa(Pollock, Klusner, Kallis,McMillan, Goddard, Rice), England(Botham, Flintoff), New ZeaLand(Hadlee, Cairns), Pakistan(Imran Kahn, Wasim Akram) top 11. The last series against SA it was finally proven that sewag can't make it against real pace on lively pitches!!! He would die a horrible death in the 80s.Glenn MgRath, impressive figues but has Donald made his international dabeu at 25? Had Marshall not left the windies in his early 30s? Hadlee or lillee? McGrath was lucky to play in an era where sports medicine could keep him in one piece for such a long time. How can a team unbeaten for 20 years only have two players(not really from that era but towards the end). India have never dominated and have 4?

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    The entire team is perfect, except for kapil, drop him for flintoff (a fit one, of course:P)

  • lozza74 on July 18, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    So let's get this right...Sehwag gets in but there is no room for Viv Richards, Gary Sobers? Kapil Dev gets in ahead of Botham and Hadlee ? Nearly half the team is Indian...hmmmm, I wonder why that is....

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    I like the idea of 'timeless' test... could even make it 4 innings :P

    Also no IVA Richards in the dream XI is a total fail

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    no richards...what kind of dream 11 is that!!!

  • crktcrzy on July 18, 2011, 18:55 GMT

    This is obviously a side picked pre-dominantly by Indian fans who are either too patriotic or too ignorant about cricket legends- On merit, only Tendulkar qualifies for an all time XI. How could Sehwag & Gavaskar be superior to Hobbs, Trumper or Sutcliffe? How was Kapil Dev greater than Sobers, Davidson, Imran or Hadlee? Where are the likes of Ponsford, Hammond, Harvey, Hutton, Weekes or even Richards? They even don't seem to appreciate legendary bowlers like Barnes, Spofforth, Grimmett, or even Hall, Lillee or Marshall. Another clear evidence of ICC being completely hacked by superpower India.

  • realproudtrini on July 18, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    That bowling lineup is amazing.......i wish i could calculate a possible total for opposition using their averages and strike rates........might get something like thrity odd runns

  • addiemanav on July 18, 2011, 18:52 GMT

    I just hope that ICC is able to pull off the test championship!the idea of timeless test is very appealing to me coz there is no point in having 5 days of game & then not getting a clear winner,whereas a 6th day or even a session cud hav settled the issue!will be difficult for ppl to understand but such a game will definitely enhance the beauty of the competition..something like last man standing!!the game wont end until it really 'ends'!!but if the wicket is bowler friendly then it cud even get over inside 3-4 days!!'timeless tests' arent a new thing to test cricket..test cricket has evolved in the last 100 years..there used to be '3-day' tests as well..so it is not unusual!!so if the teams know that draw is not an option they will always play for a win considering its a final!!but they surely cant give a batting beauty which allows teams to bat for 8-10 days!!the perfect balance shud be maintained!!and personally i hav been thinking about test WC ever since i saw my 1st WC in 99!

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    Kids u don't know about Kapil Dev...

  • AV_India on July 18, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    I like the idea of a Test championship and an eventual winner. If you make a slightly lively wicket with help from the bowlers, 5 days should be enough. Or you can change the format slightly to make sure we have a result. How about this to start with? 2 innings, 5 days. 96 overs a day. Each team bats 120 overs If the team gets out before the allocated 120 overs in the first innings (say 107 overs), the other teams gets the REMAINING overs (13) added to theirs. If the team batting second gets out before their 120 overs, the remaining overs gets added to the third innings. If they declare (say after 107 overs in the first innings), the numbers of overs remaining (13) get added to their next inning batting. So in the third innings, you get 120 + 13 to bat.

  • Rajesh. on July 18, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    Any World XI without the peerless Malcolm Marshall is never really a World XI...........

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    No sure why we have only two WI players, but that is ppls opinion and hence there is no need for it to be correct. It is just a public opinion.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    Kapil Dev!???... Seriously??... He does not deserve to be in the first 50 I reckon. Waqar Younas and Imran Khan should be in for Kapil and Ambrose. Imran should lead the Dream 11.

  • finisher on July 18, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    Kapil dev seriously.. i think most of the voters are indians.. how can you not select Sobers..

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:42 GMT

    sehwag, Gavaskar and Kapil ??? huh ... is this an indian team or really a dream team

  • Rezaul on July 18, 2011, 18:41 GMT

    I see where this side is picked from. I like Kapil Dev but definitely I would take either Imran or Sobers not Kapil. Where are the famous carribean pace quartet who dominated the world for two decades. Where are the famous WI destructive batters (Haynes, Greenidge, Clive Lloyde). Warne and Murali is like to like. So either one fits in the XI. I guess this XI is the reflection of huge number of internet users/supporter from India.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    kapil dev shewag lol what a joke

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    Where s murali? ponting?kallis?allan border?gary sorbers?

  • khiladisher on July 18, 2011, 18:38 GMT


  • on July 18, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    you can tell this People's Dream XI was made by all Indian votes they dont have imran in there you got to b kidding me.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    You are making everything result oriented. The authenticity of the test matches will be far gone if there will be a "Timeless test match"

  • gmoturu on July 18, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    thats a damn good idea......but pitches should show some response. whats the point if pitches are flat all days and nothing happens with the ball.

  • phoenixsteve on July 18, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    Interesting but pointless discussion! What's wrong with having joint champions? Draws are part of cricket. As for the peoples XI - how ridiculous. It's obviously the Indian peoples XI judging by the bias towards Indian players! Otherwise how the hell would Gavaskar, Kapil Dev and Sehwag get a mention? Crickinfo is so biased towards India it is not funny any more........

  • Aniruddha_K on July 18, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    It might be bad idea to have the 'first timeless test' right for the championship title match....It will take adjusting and might turn out to be a completely different ball game. As suggested by some here, an overtime or a well-made pitch will probably do the job... although in these cases you can't be absolutely sure that there'll be a result (rain, bad light etc.) in which case you'll have to decide the winner on some other basis like 1st innings lead or something.... In the dream XI the only obvious replacement would be Sobers in place of Kapil.... And yes I think the Gavaskar-Sehwag pair is better than Hobbs-Hutton.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    A timeless test eh ? Even after 72 days , India will still be playing for a draw.

  • World-Champs-TEAM-INDIA on July 18, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    I would love to have time-less tests. A step in the good direction by ICC.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    i want to know why is deashish mohanty and connor williams are left out??....tell me why???...those are great players..i will also suggest sunil joshi in place of shane warne....where is nari contracter..we need some naris in the game aswell...

  • A_cricketlover_from_Pakistan on July 18, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    Again...Indian cricket council's dream team.......... Imran khan is much better choice than Kapil Dev. Sehwag cannot claim a place in a dream team. Thats too much

  • DazTaylor on July 18, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    No Herbert Sutcliffe?! Botham? Only Curtly Ambrose from the great WIndies pace attack? Silly list really.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    the fans time is widely biased since most voters are indians. you've got to be kidding me if you're including kapil instead of sobers or imran. their records speak for themselves.

    as for the timeless test, another stupid idea, why do you want to affect the 'traditions' of the game. the icc has always used that as an argument to preserve the sport and now theyre talking about the exact opposite. why not introduce powerplays into tests as well then? stupid.

    they should make a lively pitch, it always makes for more enjoyable cricket and you'll definitely get a result as well

  • 5string on July 18, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    Jack Hobbs instead of Sehwag, Viv Richards instead of Lara, Sobers not Kapil, Lillee instead of McGrath. Maybe Marshall (or Larwood) instead of Ambrose tho that's a toughie! An interesting variation to this would be if there had to be at least one player from each of the test nations.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    Clearly a lot of indians voted to get sehwag and kapil into the side .

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    Ha Ha what a joke !!! wherez da highest test wicket taker OF all time and arguabally the best bowler world has ever seen , * MUTTIAH MURALITHARAN *

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    I understand that the "Dream Team" was picked based on people's votes, but you have to admit that the selected line up is pretty silly. I am a Sri Lankan, and of course I might be biased, but if Warne and Gilchrist deserve to be in that team, I am pretty sure Murali and Sanga do too.

  • inswing on July 18, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    Timeless test would be a good idea IF, and only if, they don't prepare a flat wicket. It would not make sense to declare ever, so you would see 600,700,800 runs by each side if the wicket is flat. That's a nightmare. BTW, the people's 11 shows only that there are too many college-age Indians voting.

  • vismorkel on July 18, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    In case the ICC really executes the idea of the championship final being a timeless test,then that final should be played in Durban & not at Lords.Because the first ever timeless test & that being the last until now was played in Durban and so the first ever final of a test championship which will be a timeless test should be played in durban.And with the kind of pitches Durban has produced in the recent past,a timeless test will be over in 3 & 1/2 days unlike the timeless test which was held in 1938 which never ended as the English had to catch a ship home after the 10th day's play.

  • Herath-UK on July 18, 2011, 18:23 GMT

    Is it a bright idea to choose a peoples'team by votes?might well make an indian team rather than wasting resources.Jayasuriya brought the novelty and surely he should replace Shewag. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • khiladisher on July 18, 2011, 18:22 GMT


  • Alexk400 on July 18, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    Test matches are for survival of the fittest. So all option should be there including draw. I would say it should be based on number of overs It does not matter how many days. instead of 5x90=450overs, it should be 6x90=540 overs. That way if u can bat for 6 days you deserve draw. That means you can not separate two teams. i doubt anyone can bat out if pitch is sporting pitch. I think it should be timeless but limited by overs though. I don't believe one team can win when both team is equal and got lucky with some decisions. So i go by fixed number of overs that can be timeless.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    is this is a big joke? where is maco marshall, viv richards and the greatest of them all sobers?

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    No Imran Khan ? Oh man !! I bet he is better player than Virender Sehwag 4 Indian , 4 Aussies Players !! .... Correct Name of the team should be Indo-aussie choice !!

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    Sobers for Kapil. Marshall for Ambrose probably. And I feel it should be Viv Richards for Lara, though i would desperately want Lara in my side.

  • Stark62 on July 18, 2011, 18:18 GMT


    What were the people thinking when, they selected those guys!

    Mcgrath and Ambrose (70-30 no/yes) over Marshall, Holding, Garner and Syd Barnes?

    Kapil over Sobers, Imran, O'Reilly and Hadlee?

    Lara over Headley, Viv and Pollock?

    Shewag over Barry, Hutton and Greendige?

    very funny!

    Also, the idea of a timeless Test match makes sense but only during the knockout phase!

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    nice 2 see dis.. i lov this news... also the four team are 1.India 2.England 3.South Africa 4.Australia wil be a rocking TEST summer in England.. mostly awaited for another crown for dhoni in his head...

  • Alexk400 on July 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    Kapil Dev ? pssst... Imran Khan or Gary sobers. Sachin ..psst ...Viv is better than him any day in haven or hell. I drop mcgrath and bring in malcolm marshall. I drop lara and bring Ricky ponting. My Team is Sehwag , Jayasurya, Don bradman , Ricky Ponting, Viv Richards , Imran khan , Gilchrist , Shane warne, Akram , Marshall , Ambrose.

  • shashiprasad on July 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    Timeless cricket is not good idea. ICC should must work to make game interesting but i believe this will take cricket a step backward in this direction. Most of name was expected in dream XI but there are some surprise on entry of few Indian players Like Sunny and kapil. lot of vote from India given entry them in the list.

  • Sandeep.Oza on July 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    Would have loved to see viv Richards and Alan Donald on the list... those are called as the legends of the game... and was shocked to see there was no dravid even for the probable list... and Kallis should be in the allrounder list then Kapil Dev due respect to him... But Kallis would have been the better choice..

  • swisstar on July 18, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    People's Dream X1 or India's Dream X1 .. only Sachin deserves to be in here

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    stupid idea.... teams would bat on and on and on, scoring at 0.5 runs per over.. will turn into a bore-fest.

  • AlfAlpha on July 18, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Hey - where are the Englishmen? Bring in Eddie Hemmings and Chris Tavare for Warne and Tendulkar.

  • DRY1 on July 18, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    if it is a draw, there will be controversy over who they pick as the winner based on some formula. It would make more sense though just to make sure that there has to be 500 overs available to play, 100 each day. On a lively pitch this should be enough. If it isn't just add 20 overs overtime. It will encourage people to play attacking.

  • vismorkel on July 18, 2011, 18:12 GMT

    With all due respect to Kapil Dev & in spite of him being a great cricketer he is still no match for Sir Garfield Sobers and in that case no all rounder is a match for the great Sir Gary Sobers.

  • CollisKing on July 18, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    "World Test Championship's" "Timeless Tests"... typical ICC nonsense.

    Nothing wrong with drawn matches Mr Lorgat. As long as into the last day, one team is trying to win it - the other team is trying to save it. How about faster over-rates, restrictions on overly-defensive field-placings, no bad-light stoppages and more bowler-friendly pitches ?

    Oh yeah, the greatest test team of all time: Greenidge, Haynes, Richardson, Gomes, Richards, Lloyd, Dujon, Marshall, Holding, Garner, Croft.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    @SAIEEN wat Wrong wid kapil dev, sure imran khan and ian bothom was some of the best players of their time ...but there was a time in like th 1978's to 1986 where india only hopes wer ob kapil dev and sunil gavaskar like wat sachin had done the same from 1998's to 2003's

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    A world test team that doesn't have Sobers is a joke.

  • mritunjai on July 18, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    Clearly a stupid idea because declarations and time factor are an important part of test cricket. In a timeless match a team will never think of declaring and it will reduce a chance of turn around. Many a times teams declare to give the opponent gettable targets so that they get a chance to take wickets in the limited time. In absenc of such restrictions a team will just keep on batting.

  • Balumekka on July 18, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    Kapil Dev ahead of Imran Khan???? Even Kallis is a far better allrounder than Kapil. What a shame....

  • rustyryan on July 18, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    Timeless test? Wish there must be a team with Dravid. Chanders, Kallis, Mike Hussey, Trott and Mahela playing together. Lets c when would the match end.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    this People's Dream team is funny! First of all it has virender sehwag as a test opener! What a joke!!!! And kapil dev! That shows the polpulation in India and how many follow cricket!

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    grt choice by people grt team this wil beat any side in the world verry balanced team with kapil and adam as 2 all rounders

  • Angad11 on July 18, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    TIMELESS TEST ? Oh boy, that was a good joke. Just imagine the sight of Dravid playing for days together.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Time and Again the ICC loses the whole picture. Bringing in timeless tests is not going to bring in the crowds. To bring in the crowds you have to give them what they like. People are as it is bored of 5 day long matches and i cannot imagine anyone buying tickets for a match they feel will never end! this is test cricket, not tennis! ICC can probably look into merchandising and other such forms to get the crowds in but timeless tests is surely not the way!

  • Triple_A on July 18, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    I got 9/11, having picked Sobers and Marshall!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    include border also.................

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    That's a stupid stupid Idea...

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    Simple...Add like an Overtime...50 overs or 25 overs at a time..:)

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    kapil dev? you've got to be kidding me. botham and imran were far better all rounders than them.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    Oh god i cant believe what i just read, icc loosing its head. just make a lively pitch and that will do , timeless test? thats the most ridicules thing someone ever proposed.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    drop McGrath for Marshall.

    drop Kapil (seriously, I love him too but...) for Sobers.

    Gilchrist I have no issue with, but I'd take Knott.

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  • on July 18, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    drop McGrath for Marshall.

    drop Kapil (seriously, I love him too but...) for Sobers.

    Gilchrist I have no issue with, but I'd take Knott.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    Oh god i cant believe what i just read, icc loosing its head. just make a lively pitch and that will do , timeless test? thats the most ridicules thing someone ever proposed.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    kapil dev? you've got to be kidding me. botham and imran were far better all rounders than them.

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    Simple...Add like an Overtime...50 overs or 25 overs at a time..:)

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    That's a stupid stupid Idea...

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    include border also.................

  • Triple_A on July 18, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    I got 9/11, having picked Sobers and Marshall!!

  • on July 18, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Time and Again the ICC loses the whole picture. Bringing in timeless tests is not going to bring in the crowds. To bring in the crowds you have to give them what they like. People are as it is bored of 5 day long matches and i cannot imagine anyone buying tickets for a match they feel will never end! this is test cricket, not tennis! ICC can probably look into merchandising and other such forms to get the crowds in but timeless tests is surely not the way!

  • Angad11 on July 18, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    TIMELESS TEST ? Oh boy, that was a good joke. Just imagine the sight of Dravid playing for days together.

  • on July 18, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    grt choice by people grt team this wil beat any side in the world verry balanced team with kapil and adam as 2 all rounders