Associate news February 1, 2014

Netherlands, Kenya and Canada lose ODI status

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Netherlands, Kenya and Canada have lost their ODI status after disappointing performances in the ICC World Cup Qualifier in New Zealand. The three teams made way for UAE, Hong Kong and Papua New Guinea, who will join Ireland, Afghanistan and Scotland as the ODI Associate nations for the next four years.

Kenya had finished fifth in the Super Six round of the competition, while Netherlands and Canada failed to make it past the group stage. Netherlands have been an ODI nation since 2006, while Kenya's status goes back to 1996.

"It is sad for Kenya cricket but there is nothing we can do about the situation," Cricket Kenya said. "We have to wait for the team to come back on Sunday before deciding the way forward."

Cricket Canada president Ravin Moorthy said they hadn't yet "heard definitively from ICC what the plan will be for the top 10 Associates/Affiliates other than the four that have gone on to the World Cup.

"No doubt our funding will take a hit, as well as a reduced playing program that will hamper our ability to continue to have a full-time men's team. In terms of development, we still believe strongly in our programs and have been rewarded by further ICC investment in our grass-roots programs that will continue to deliver strong growth numbers in our sport in Canada. We are also buoyed by the fact that Canada continues to be an important commerical market for cricket and we will continue to expand that marketplace while we get our high performance program back on track."

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  • 560162 on February 6, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Let's move on. Those who lost ODI status, try again. Meantime do not blame ICC. Tournament rules were set well in advance. There's nothing wrong in new teams taking over from the old ones. Kenya Cricket adminstrators are yet to make any statement on the very poor state of the game.

  • kavinjan on February 4, 2014, 3:44 GMT

    hello MR RAVIN MOORTY. i see no shame from any selector or president vice president of cricket canada. i thing none of you never learn or have a heart of STEPPING DOWN from your positions. The problem for canadian cricket from last 5 years is the same problem of KENYA and please read Steve tikklo interview care fully this is exactly what you did and the previous board and canada is out of ODIs how sad that is. My recommendations to the board RESIGN and RESIGN as soon as possible.

  • pindolia on February 2, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Can the ICC in the interest of cricket extend one day status to all the teams taking part in the intercontinental cup this will be fair as when they play all the teams would be accorded the status in the same way please do look into it and also instead of four day game make it five day and give the games unofficial test status.If the respective boards can also lobby this.Please ICC LOOK INTO IT

  • mbilalhussain on February 2, 2014, 15:14 GMT

    they lost their ODI status because ICC doesnt give them enough ODIs to play againt full member teams...and now with Greedy 3's proposal in line for approval, things will get worse for these associates.

  • on February 2, 2014, 7:48 GMT

    i'm an indian,can anyone tell me that what is the eligibility to play domestic cricket in country's like canada,usa,nepal etc.

  • globalisingcricketzzz on February 1, 2014, 23:26 GMT

    well 3 teams lose ODI status and 3 gain it. The best way the ICC can handle it is by WCL as by giving ODI status to top 2 Div two teams who play along top 6 associates in WCL as they last time played in Which UAE n NAMIBIA played in world cricket league and also intercontinental cup. Ireland n Afghanistan qualified through WCL only.So The Div two teams participating in WCL shud also get ODI status as they play with top 6 with ODI status WCL. So by this Kenya canada and netherlands can hv another chance to bounce back n add up to the ODI status associates.

  • on February 1, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    I have a Better Idea: Why not Boards of Big Cricket playing Nations like India, South Africa, Australia, West Indies, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, England, Pakistan allows the neighboring cricketing Emerging countries to play in their Domestic Structure.. for e.g India may allow Nepal, Hong kong in their domestic structure like WICB allows Ireland & Canadato play in their tournaments. Pakistan may help UAE, AFG. South Africa will help cricket in African Nations. BCCI have to understand and work on these things.

  • MWaqqar on February 1, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    Netherland lose one match to Kenya so cannot make Super Six and are relegated. It does not make sense

  • on February 1, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    feel very sorry for Kenya CNT believ its a team that reached world cup semi final also sorry for Netherland love Peter borren

  • D.V.C. on February 1, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Kenya hadn't played their best cricket for a long time, so I'm not too disappointed to see someone else get a go there. It's a travesty to see the Netherlands in this position though. In the previous qualifying tournament they just missed out. For the last 4 years they've played to a high standard. In this tournament they were without their best player, they had a bad couple of days and lost 2 games only, and are relegated! I really, really feel for them, because although it is sport, it does not feel just.

  • 560162 on February 6, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Let's move on. Those who lost ODI status, try again. Meantime do not blame ICC. Tournament rules were set well in advance. There's nothing wrong in new teams taking over from the old ones. Kenya Cricket adminstrators are yet to make any statement on the very poor state of the game.

  • kavinjan on February 4, 2014, 3:44 GMT

    hello MR RAVIN MOORTY. i see no shame from any selector or president vice president of cricket canada. i thing none of you never learn or have a heart of STEPPING DOWN from your positions. The problem for canadian cricket from last 5 years is the same problem of KENYA and please read Steve tikklo interview care fully this is exactly what you did and the previous board and canada is out of ODIs how sad that is. My recommendations to the board RESIGN and RESIGN as soon as possible.

  • pindolia on February 2, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Can the ICC in the interest of cricket extend one day status to all the teams taking part in the intercontinental cup this will be fair as when they play all the teams would be accorded the status in the same way please do look into it and also instead of four day game make it five day and give the games unofficial test status.If the respective boards can also lobby this.Please ICC LOOK INTO IT

  • mbilalhussain on February 2, 2014, 15:14 GMT

    they lost their ODI status because ICC doesnt give them enough ODIs to play againt full member teams...and now with Greedy 3's proposal in line for approval, things will get worse for these associates.

  • on February 2, 2014, 7:48 GMT

    i'm an indian,can anyone tell me that what is the eligibility to play domestic cricket in country's like canada,usa,nepal etc.

  • globalisingcricketzzz on February 1, 2014, 23:26 GMT

    well 3 teams lose ODI status and 3 gain it. The best way the ICC can handle it is by WCL as by giving ODI status to top 2 Div two teams who play along top 6 associates in WCL as they last time played in Which UAE n NAMIBIA played in world cricket league and also intercontinental cup. Ireland n Afghanistan qualified through WCL only.So The Div two teams participating in WCL shud also get ODI status as they play with top 6 with ODI status WCL. So by this Kenya canada and netherlands can hv another chance to bounce back n add up to the ODI status associates.

  • on February 1, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    I have a Better Idea: Why not Boards of Big Cricket playing Nations like India, South Africa, Australia, West Indies, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, England, Pakistan allows the neighboring cricketing Emerging countries to play in their Domestic Structure.. for e.g India may allow Nepal, Hong kong in their domestic structure like WICB allows Ireland & Canadato play in their tournaments. Pakistan may help UAE, AFG. South Africa will help cricket in African Nations. BCCI have to understand and work on these things.

  • MWaqqar on February 1, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    Netherland lose one match to Kenya so cannot make Super Six and are relegated. It does not make sense

  • on February 1, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    feel very sorry for Kenya CNT believ its a team that reached world cup semi final also sorry for Netherland love Peter borren

  • D.V.C. on February 1, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Kenya hadn't played their best cricket for a long time, so I'm not too disappointed to see someone else get a go there. It's a travesty to see the Netherlands in this position though. In the previous qualifying tournament they just missed out. For the last 4 years they've played to a high standard. In this tournament they were without their best player, they had a bad couple of days and lost 2 games only, and are relegated! I really, really feel for them, because although it is sport, it does not feel just.

  • Corypack87 on February 1, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    I knew this is what will happen to Canadian team because if you look at the current Canadian team, it's not a Canadian team, it's a team from Ontario ( mainly from Toronto ) They don't pick other players who perform well from other provinces ( there are many talented players from other provinces ) instead they only pick Pakistani immigrants.

  • on February 1, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    This school year is probably the biggest opportunity for Team Canada scouts to recruit.fascinating talents. Schools such as R.H.King, Wolburn etc in the TDSB has some great bunch of guys playing. We can solve Team Canada's problems. Do come to our matches at ashtonbee and L'Amoreaux

  • on February 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Really sad to see semifinalist in wc 2003 now losing odi status . really questions the decision of not giving them test status in 2003 .if we don't nurture these countries it will become a case of simple musical chairs .

  • waldinho1 on February 1, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    ahassan - just to pick you up on one thing - Bopara was born in London.

    Also, what about if someone has a parent from their adoptive country (ie KP, Trott - yes I'm English)... isn't that enough to show a connection to the country? I would say so - in football, possibly incomparably, they can use a player's grandparents - but it's not an easy question.

    From the outside looking in a bit, I don't think there should be a limit on the number of Associates/ODI teams - it shouldn't be a case of replacing 3 with 3, but simply adding sides as they get better. Seems very harsh on Netherlands who seem to be able to produce some good players of their own alongside the Aussie/South African drop-ins, and they've always been there or thereabouts. Not sure it's fair to base the status on 1 qualifying tournament - why not have a ranking system over 4 years?

  • yohandf on February 1, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    @ Ahsaan - good you are interested on this . my solution for this comprise two conditons . 1) All players should have citizenship . 2) If not born and brought up in that country , they should play for 10 years of club / first class cricket in that country . In this way citizen who born and brought up there can join the team easily while expats need to go hard way by playing 10 years there & obtaining citizenship . so expats will be demoralized and more opportunities for locals .

  • ahassan on February 1, 2014, 7:26 GMT

    @yohandf....Partly agree with you about your concern about players of Hong Kong, UAE, Canada etc. but you cannot help it as these players have made these countries their home and live there for a long time. ICC has a problem here. If they make some kind of rules to ban them playing for these countries then they have to do it for players of all the countries also. What will happen to Players like Bopara, Pietersen, Imran Tahir and many others who are ex-pats. If you have a solution please come out with it.

  • pindolia on February 1, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    The Kenyan fans feel for the players and their families whose income was derived from the sport.If this does not move the Minister of sport to take over the sport from the administration and go to the drawing board and starting all over Cricket is dead and buried in Kenya.ICC should also look into countries like Kenya and help them as the administration has lost its way completely.I suggest if ICC can appoint South Africa and Zimbabwe as big brothers to Kenya and offer assistance in form of fixtures players taking part in the domestic structure of their countries and also technical assistance.Sad but what to do if those elected do not have any idea and still cling to their positions and unfortunately the fans,media and sponsors have also deserted the sport.

  • D-Train on February 1, 2014, 6:21 GMT

    This is terrible news for Netherlands. A country that actually had some potential have lost status because of one poor tournament. It'll be a very long time before they recover from this.

  • yohandf on February 1, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    I think its a fair decision that you need to earn your spot . Kenya went backwards in last decade or so and this was on the cards . but Netherland who were so close to world cup again just fell badly here . hope they ll come hard . But my issue is the two of countries replacing them are so dependent on ex-patriots . For ex in UAE , i don t know any local are there & more or less same story about Hong kong . This was the story of other left out country Canada . Papua NG is with lots of home players and hopefully they ll go further . At the end of the day , only the teams with influence from grassroots will come up . For ex : Ireland , Afghnistan . but not the teams heavily dependent on imported players .

  • Anil_Koshy on February 1, 2014, 5:57 GMT

    It is really sad to withdraw ODI status of Kenya and Netherlands, Kenya could have become a good team by now, poor management and ICC's callous approach led to their downfall, Canada relying on expatriates and a bunch of Asian and West Indies discards had not business to be there, but really great to see PNG being promoted, they really played good cricket and most of the players and indigenous, I am not sure of UAE and Hong Kong.

  • Kumaranuj on February 1, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    It's very disappointing news to read, for Kenya, who were the semi-finalist of 2003 WC. A very sad to hear that Kenya struggle to make any impact or improvement in international cricket. I think Kenyan cricket have to find more then one "Steve Tikolo" , the only best cricketer they have, and groom them for international level, this would be the only hope for them in future. On the other hand good to see the UAE came back as an international team, whom we see playing world cup in our childhood. Looking forward for their performance in next world cup.

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  • Kumaranuj on February 1, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    It's very disappointing news to read, for Kenya, who were the semi-finalist of 2003 WC. A very sad to hear that Kenya struggle to make any impact or improvement in international cricket. I think Kenyan cricket have to find more then one "Steve Tikolo" , the only best cricketer they have, and groom them for international level, this would be the only hope for them in future. On the other hand good to see the UAE came back as an international team, whom we see playing world cup in our childhood. Looking forward for their performance in next world cup.

  • Anil_Koshy on February 1, 2014, 5:57 GMT

    It is really sad to withdraw ODI status of Kenya and Netherlands, Kenya could have become a good team by now, poor management and ICC's callous approach led to their downfall, Canada relying on expatriates and a bunch of Asian and West Indies discards had not business to be there, but really great to see PNG being promoted, they really played good cricket and most of the players and indigenous, I am not sure of UAE and Hong Kong.

  • yohandf on February 1, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    I think its a fair decision that you need to earn your spot . Kenya went backwards in last decade or so and this was on the cards . but Netherland who were so close to world cup again just fell badly here . hope they ll come hard . But my issue is the two of countries replacing them are so dependent on ex-patriots . For ex in UAE , i don t know any local are there & more or less same story about Hong kong . This was the story of other left out country Canada . Papua NG is with lots of home players and hopefully they ll go further . At the end of the day , only the teams with influence from grassroots will come up . For ex : Ireland , Afghnistan . but not the teams heavily dependent on imported players .

  • D-Train on February 1, 2014, 6:21 GMT

    This is terrible news for Netherlands. A country that actually had some potential have lost status because of one poor tournament. It'll be a very long time before they recover from this.

  • pindolia on February 1, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    The Kenyan fans feel for the players and their families whose income was derived from the sport.If this does not move the Minister of sport to take over the sport from the administration and go to the drawing board and starting all over Cricket is dead and buried in Kenya.ICC should also look into countries like Kenya and help them as the administration has lost its way completely.I suggest if ICC can appoint South Africa and Zimbabwe as big brothers to Kenya and offer assistance in form of fixtures players taking part in the domestic structure of their countries and also technical assistance.Sad but what to do if those elected do not have any idea and still cling to their positions and unfortunately the fans,media and sponsors have also deserted the sport.

  • ahassan on February 1, 2014, 7:26 GMT

    @yohandf....Partly agree with you about your concern about players of Hong Kong, UAE, Canada etc. but you cannot help it as these players have made these countries their home and live there for a long time. ICC has a problem here. If they make some kind of rules to ban them playing for these countries then they have to do it for players of all the countries also. What will happen to Players like Bopara, Pietersen, Imran Tahir and many others who are ex-pats. If you have a solution please come out with it.

  • yohandf on February 1, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    @ Ahsaan - good you are interested on this . my solution for this comprise two conditons . 1) All players should have citizenship . 2) If not born and brought up in that country , they should play for 10 years of club / first class cricket in that country . In this way citizen who born and brought up there can join the team easily while expats need to go hard way by playing 10 years there & obtaining citizenship . so expats will be demoralized and more opportunities for locals .

  • waldinho1 on February 1, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    ahassan - just to pick you up on one thing - Bopara was born in London.

    Also, what about if someone has a parent from their adoptive country (ie KP, Trott - yes I'm English)... isn't that enough to show a connection to the country? I would say so - in football, possibly incomparably, they can use a player's grandparents - but it's not an easy question.

    From the outside looking in a bit, I don't think there should be a limit on the number of Associates/ODI teams - it shouldn't be a case of replacing 3 with 3, but simply adding sides as they get better. Seems very harsh on Netherlands who seem to be able to produce some good players of their own alongside the Aussie/South African drop-ins, and they've always been there or thereabouts. Not sure it's fair to base the status on 1 qualifying tournament - why not have a ranking system over 4 years?

  • on February 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Really sad to see semifinalist in wc 2003 now losing odi status . really questions the decision of not giving them test status in 2003 .if we don't nurture these countries it will become a case of simple musical chairs .

  • on February 1, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    This school year is probably the biggest opportunity for Team Canada scouts to recruit.fascinating talents. Schools such as R.H.King, Wolburn etc in the TDSB has some great bunch of guys playing. We can solve Team Canada's problems. Do come to our matches at ashtonbee and L'Amoreaux