England v India, 5th ODI, Cardiff September 16, 2011

Bairstow blasts England home on debut

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England 241 for 4 (Trott 63, Cook 50, Bairstow 41*) beat India 304 for 6 (Kohli 107, Dravid 69) by six wickets (D/L method)
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Not even India's first 300-plus total in 14 attempts against England could prove sufficient to win their first international fixture of a desperately one-sided tour, as the 21-year-old Yorkshire batsman Jonny Bairstow marked his international debut with a nerveless display of power-hitting under the floodlights at Cardiff. Chasing a revised target of 241 in 34 overs after a sequence of Duckworth-Lewis readjustments, Bairstow battered an extraordinary 41 from 21 balls, as England eased home with 10 balls to spare.

In a breathless performance, Bairstow struck the fifth ball of his international career for six over midwicket, and added two more and a four for good measure, as England marched up the mountain to complete their third victory of the series and their eighth in ten international matches against India this summer.

The denouement stole the thunder from Virat Kohli's excellent 107 from 93, and also overshadowed the final ODI match of Rahul Dravid's 344-match career. He signed off with 69 from 79 balls, and a handshake from every England player, but as had been the case all summer, he was powerless to stop a team on the rampage.

Such a dramatic turn of events had seemed unlikely at the halfway mark of the day, which was reached amid similar pyrotechnics, as India's captain, MS Dhoni, slammed an even 50 from 26 balls to haul his team to an imposing total of 304 for 6. It was four runs more than they had managed in their final innings of the Test series, at The Oval back in August, and when two untimely rain-showers lopped 10 overs and only 34 runs off the chase, England's task appeared to have been made all the more awkward.

But they approached their task with confidence from the outset. In damp conditions, but on a still firm deck, Craig Kieswetter struck four fours in his first 12 balls to motor along to 21 from 17, before he was adjudged lbw a delivery that looked to be sliding past leg stump, while Alastair Cook provided the ballast once again, skitting along to 50 from 54 balls to set England up for their late push.

Another rain delay in the tenth over forced another D/L readjustment, but not before the newly-crowned ICC Cricketer of the Year, Jonathan Trott, had slammed Munaf Patel straight back down towards the River Taff for the first six of his ODI career. Cook reached his fifty in a frenetic over from Kohli, which included - in consecutive deliveries - a reverse lap for four, a terrible dropped catch at backward square from Dravid, and a mow across the line that led to Cook's middle stump being pegged back.

Trott might already have been caught at mid-off had Munaf not overstepped, and Munaf's evening got even worse when he slipped in the outfield and limped off with a twisted ankle. But Trott by now was getting into the mood, and with Ian Bell alongside him, he laid into the left-arm spin of Ravindra Jadeja, who was smacked for 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6 in a single over that went for 21 and catapulted England ahead of the D/L requirement.

The two men fell in consecutive overs - Bell holed out to long-off against RP Singh, before Jadeja gained a measure of revenge by removing Trott who slapped to point - but Bairstow's arrival provided the carefree attitude that the situation required. At first, Ravi Bopara was unable to break the shackles to quite the same extent, but found his range as the target drew nearer, slogging RP Singh over deep fine leg for a top-edged six as he closed his series on 34 not out from 20 balls.

After winning the toss for the fifth match in a row, Cook's decision to bowl first was influenced by the prospect of showers and evening dew, but England struggled for breakthroughs at the outset. Parthiv Patel and Ajinkya Rahane added 52 for the first wicket, and though Steven Finn kept the Powerplays in check with an excellent first spell of seven overs for 22, England's fielding became notably ragged at key moments of the innings. Samit Patel dropped two bad catches, one at third man off Rahane to deny Finn a deserved early wicket, and England were once again indebted to the spin of Graeme Swann, who returned figures of 3 for 34 in nine overs to prevent the run-rate from getting completely out of hand.

It was Dravid and Kohli who turned on the style, slowly at first but with increasing poise as their partnership mounted. Jade Dernbach's sixth over was dispatched for 15 as Kohli's strong wrists and superb timing plundered his variations, before Patel was battered out of the attack with two fours over midwicket and a massive spring-loaded six over long-off. Though he slowed his tempo with his hundred in sight, he eventually turned Swann through square leg for a single to bring up his landmark from 87 deliveries, and was celebrating with jubilation before he had even completed the run.

One delivery later, Dravid's ODI career was brought to an end as Swann tweaked one through his gate and into the top of off stump, and when Kohli trod on his own stumps while working a single through square leg, England had prised themselves an opening that Dhoni - the eventual Man of the Series - did his utmost to slam shut. But India's defence was hampered by the absence of Praveen Kumar, who twisted his ankle while playing football in the warm-up, and without Munaf at the death, they simply had no answer to Bairstow's brilliant onslaught.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • 5wombats on September 19, 2011, 22:20 GMT

    @CandidIndian - I think the problem, if I might say so - is not your comments, which are always valid and reasonable. Like you, many indian fans give valuable insights into their team and teams perfomances here - which is why we all like cricinfo so much.The problem is that there has been a lot of outrageous crowing, really ridiculous stuff on here and it has been driving a few of us dotty reading it. So - if my comments read as if they are "bashing" - actually they are - but I'm bashing back at the outrageous and ridiculous stuff. A lot of other people bash back too. It's fun - sure (sometimes!), and no offence is intended :-) My worry - which I expressed throughout, is whether India is going to go on with an obsession for T20, etc, and thus become lost as a Test playing nation. This would be a DISASTER for World Cricket and must not be allowed to happen. I have experienced Test cricket in India and have seen the passion first hand.

  • SDHM on September 19, 2011, 16:50 GMT

    Someone somewhere on this long list of comment who seemed intent on criticising England actually hit on something - Bresnan's form. Doesn't seem to have been mentioned much, but he looks a shadow of his test self with the white ball in his hand. I know his batting has, can and will come in useful in the future, but he's getting slapped around too much. Keep Finn in the side instead, give him games, get overs in his legs, and then unleash him into the test side in time to compete with Dale Steyn for fastest ball next summer!

  • Spuddinho on September 19, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    @Kritika Prasad.... bit like all the Indian fans who flooded the Ashes comments last winter saying how the series was devalued because neither Australia or England were the world's top-ranked side.

  • Naresh28 on September 19, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    Unearthing a good pace bowler in the immiediate term for India is probably not possible. However our best bowlers at the moment are "Zaheer, Nehra, Ishant and Sreesanth" Why not work on " Pankaj singh , Irfan Pathan, Dinda, Varun, and Yadav" I feel the may reason the bowling lacked anything was due to the lack of a good left arm pacer. When Zaheer got injured India should have settled for Nehra - another left armer. India has lots of talented left arm bowlers who are probably better than our right armers. Our bowling attack was all right armers. Also our spinners would be effective if the pacers are letting ENgland off. Another problem we had was dropped catches which buried us. In this respect I agree with some of the comments that we need youngsters who wont drop catches like some of the seniors.

  • on September 19, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    I have no issues with English fans over here! But why are Pakistanis so much interested? Haven't got anything better to do or can't get enough of Indian Cricket! *Wonder Wonder* !:D

  • Lmaotsetung on September 19, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    Watching Aussie bowlers struggle against Sri Lanka without their top seamer, I guess this is India's chance to win a test series against Australia. I mean Copeland = Praveen Kumar (military medium), Mitch Johnson = Ishant Sharma (rhythm bowler). Zaheer = Ryan Harris (more times injured than healthy). LOL, both bowling units pretty much cancel each other but a healthy Indian batting lineup > a healthry Aussie batting lineup. Interesting series coming up in Dec. We'll see if BCCI has learned anything from this disaster of a tour.

  • m_ilind on September 19, 2011, 2:26 GMT

    India did not prepare well enough for this tour, and paid a big price. Eng were not to be taken lightly, as they had won the Ashes and were playing at home. An experienced team like India should have done better.

  • CandidIndian on September 19, 2011, 0:31 GMT

    5wombats and Valavan-Just to clear the fog,there are many cricket fans in India who in-spite of supporting their team are ready to accept defeats and face reality in much more matured manner.Many of us are aware of weaknesses like Obsession of BCCI and players with IPL ,lack of intent in finding pace bowlers and lack of proper planning to win outside subcontinent.Having said that i appreciate Eng exposed Indian team in WC by almost chasing down 340 and making Indian team realize that it wont be a fairy tale run for them which helped India in long run to win the prestigious tournament ,same way they exposed India badly here and i hope the inevitable changes which BCCI was avoiding will come as many of us Indian fans were hoping.However as we know this is not an end of Indian cricket either,like England cricket didnt end after losing to SA,India, Aus and then WI before they returned on winning ways and achieved no 1 ranking.Success can be celebrated without bashing others mates,thanks.

  • frazell on September 18, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    4 test wins + 1 T20 win + 3 ODI wins + 1 rained off + 1 tie=10 international games for India without a win. (plus first-class games Somerset and Norhants dominated). I have to admit injuies and weather hindered the Indian (esp. in ODI's)but what a fantastic performance by England. I refrained from commenting at the start (i think) but all who said India would win were very very wrong. Now to win in sub continent and v SA to prove to everyone we are undisputed No. 1

  • Doosra_k_gand on September 18, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Two bad teams were swept this month; INDIA and Zimbabwe. Everything is still normal in the cricket world

  • 5wombats on September 19, 2011, 22:20 GMT

    @CandidIndian - I think the problem, if I might say so - is not your comments, which are always valid and reasonable. Like you, many indian fans give valuable insights into their team and teams perfomances here - which is why we all like cricinfo so much.The problem is that there has been a lot of outrageous crowing, really ridiculous stuff on here and it has been driving a few of us dotty reading it. So - if my comments read as if they are "bashing" - actually they are - but I'm bashing back at the outrageous and ridiculous stuff. A lot of other people bash back too. It's fun - sure (sometimes!), and no offence is intended :-) My worry - which I expressed throughout, is whether India is going to go on with an obsession for T20, etc, and thus become lost as a Test playing nation. This would be a DISASTER for World Cricket and must not be allowed to happen. I have experienced Test cricket in India and have seen the passion first hand.

  • SDHM on September 19, 2011, 16:50 GMT

    Someone somewhere on this long list of comment who seemed intent on criticising England actually hit on something - Bresnan's form. Doesn't seem to have been mentioned much, but he looks a shadow of his test self with the white ball in his hand. I know his batting has, can and will come in useful in the future, but he's getting slapped around too much. Keep Finn in the side instead, give him games, get overs in his legs, and then unleash him into the test side in time to compete with Dale Steyn for fastest ball next summer!

  • Spuddinho on September 19, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    @Kritika Prasad.... bit like all the Indian fans who flooded the Ashes comments last winter saying how the series was devalued because neither Australia or England were the world's top-ranked side.

  • Naresh28 on September 19, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    Unearthing a good pace bowler in the immiediate term for India is probably not possible. However our best bowlers at the moment are "Zaheer, Nehra, Ishant and Sreesanth" Why not work on " Pankaj singh , Irfan Pathan, Dinda, Varun, and Yadav" I feel the may reason the bowling lacked anything was due to the lack of a good left arm pacer. When Zaheer got injured India should have settled for Nehra - another left armer. India has lots of talented left arm bowlers who are probably better than our right armers. Our bowling attack was all right armers. Also our spinners would be effective if the pacers are letting ENgland off. Another problem we had was dropped catches which buried us. In this respect I agree with some of the comments that we need youngsters who wont drop catches like some of the seniors.

  • on September 19, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    I have no issues with English fans over here! But why are Pakistanis so much interested? Haven't got anything better to do or can't get enough of Indian Cricket! *Wonder Wonder* !:D

  • Lmaotsetung on September 19, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    Watching Aussie bowlers struggle against Sri Lanka without their top seamer, I guess this is India's chance to win a test series against Australia. I mean Copeland = Praveen Kumar (military medium), Mitch Johnson = Ishant Sharma (rhythm bowler). Zaheer = Ryan Harris (more times injured than healthy). LOL, both bowling units pretty much cancel each other but a healthy Indian batting lineup > a healthry Aussie batting lineup. Interesting series coming up in Dec. We'll see if BCCI has learned anything from this disaster of a tour.

  • m_ilind on September 19, 2011, 2:26 GMT

    India did not prepare well enough for this tour, and paid a big price. Eng were not to be taken lightly, as they had won the Ashes and were playing at home. An experienced team like India should have done better.

  • CandidIndian on September 19, 2011, 0:31 GMT

    5wombats and Valavan-Just to clear the fog,there are many cricket fans in India who in-spite of supporting their team are ready to accept defeats and face reality in much more matured manner.Many of us are aware of weaknesses like Obsession of BCCI and players with IPL ,lack of intent in finding pace bowlers and lack of proper planning to win outside subcontinent.Having said that i appreciate Eng exposed Indian team in WC by almost chasing down 340 and making Indian team realize that it wont be a fairy tale run for them which helped India in long run to win the prestigious tournament ,same way they exposed India badly here and i hope the inevitable changes which BCCI was avoiding will come as many of us Indian fans were hoping.However as we know this is not an end of Indian cricket either,like England cricket didnt end after losing to SA,India, Aus and then WI before they returned on winning ways and achieved no 1 ranking.Success can be celebrated without bashing others mates,thanks.

  • frazell on September 18, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    4 test wins + 1 T20 win + 3 ODI wins + 1 rained off + 1 tie=10 international games for India without a win. (plus first-class games Somerset and Norhants dominated). I have to admit injuies and weather hindered the Indian (esp. in ODI's)but what a fantastic performance by England. I refrained from commenting at the start (i think) but all who said India would win were very very wrong. Now to win in sub continent and v SA to prove to everyone we are undisputed No. 1

  • Doosra_k_gand on September 18, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Two bad teams were swept this month; INDIA and Zimbabwe. Everything is still normal in the cricket world

  • Cric_info_pak on September 18, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    India was never a good team only media champion they did not beat aussie RSA in test series at home n now they became worse then bangladesh( bangladesh manage to beat england in one ODI ) they lost like canada or france in test matches ... their test status should be taken back from them .... england is weak ODI side can't beat them in one single game .....

  • Valavan on September 18, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    @rahulcricket007, well its really pity that India just touring SL to prove their records, We all asked about travelling out of subcontinent, which also means out of bangladesh or Sri Lanka. You can write here over and over at the end you won major matches in SL.Only worthy trophy was CB series and series win at NZ. We dont have to write here about what england did in past 4 years, well England won the T20 crown in Windies. others you can check it out in series archive. We dont rate england alongside Aussies and Windies of Past. we know we have a long way to go. At the same time dont say India in the league of Windies or Aussies of PAST. INDIA is nowhere near those SHADOWS of those champion team. Please concentrate how to win a test match in Australia this winter.

  • bobmartin on September 18, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    History... History... History. and even more history....What is the point ? Why dwell in the past, when it has no bearing on the present ? This is 2011, and no matter what India may have won in the past, they haven't won an international match on this tour. India have gone down in the test rankings to number 3 and in the ODI rankings to number 5. No amount of reflection on past tours is going to change that. Those are the facts that need to be addressed. India may well be the WC holders, but that's all they've got at present and if that's the height of India's cricketing ambitions, the it's no wonder they are where they are in the world rankings.

  • kristee on September 18, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    Although England escaped with one or two draws in their last tour of SA, they were more convincing than India were in theirs. The margin of Durban victory vis-a-vis the controversies surrounding the umpiring leaves India's case less acceptable.

  • rahulcricket007 on September 18, 2011, 11:50 GMT

    @5WOMBATS@LANDL47@VALAVAN AND ALL OTHER ENG SUPPORTERS. HERE IS RECORD OF INDIA OUTSIDE INDIA SINCE DHONI BECAME CAPTAIN . IN 2008 WON CB SERIES, IN 2007 T20WC IN 2008 WON ODISERIES IN SL BY 3-2, IN 2009 WON TEST & ODI SERIES IN NZ , IN 2009 WON TRAINGULAR SERIES IN SL (COMPAQ CUP),IN 2009 WON ODI SERIES IN SL BY 4-1, IN 2010 WON ASIA CUP IN SL, IN 2010 DREW SERIES IN SL , IN 2011 DREW TEST SERIES IN SA LOST ODI SERIES IN SA BY 3-2,

  • on September 18, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    India mill hv to think seriouslly for injecting new blood in team nd specially in bowling section.Surprising really,in population of one billion plus selectors can not find two genuine fast bowlers.u donot hv lee,mcgrath,waim or shoab type of people in such a huge population.Always propagating for batting greats is not that wise

  • Vipins on September 18, 2011, 9:19 GMT

    @ashekahmed..True India had a bad series....Bangladesh..i guess never had a good tour....They were thrashed by Zimbabwe recently.....ICC should look in toreconsidering their test cap...

  • 5wombats on September 18, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    OMG - the history lessons and excuses just keep coming don't they. But these history teachers confuse their students....@rahulcricket007; "YOU DRAW THE SERIES WITH SA DUE TO SOME LUCK OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE A WIIN FOR SA BY 3-1". - Friend you have deliberately confused the Tests and ODI's played by Eng in SA. Let me clear it up for you. The Test series was 1-1 - with SA only scrambling a win on a doctored pitch in the last game. England won the ODI series 2-1. These are historical facts that any good teacher should know. "ENGLAND BEAT ALL COUNTRIES IN ODIS IN LAST 2 YEARS ALSO ENG WIN AGAINST PAK,SL &IND", all this is true and these are also historical facts that cannot be disputed - yes @rahulcricket007 that Aus beat Eng in ODI's and that unfinished business is our problem - not yours. India's problem is how to win games of cricket in any format away from home - take for example Zimbabwe beating India in TWO ODIs in Zim last year. England have no such problems. please publish.

  • ptal3 on September 18, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    @Vipins : Not sure on what you mean on India achieved a lot over the yrs? In the last 4 yrs (including the 2 where they have been No. 1), they could not win an overseas series (except NZ and BAN). They haven't beaten SL in SL for around 20 yrs now (remember the last tour where India just managed to tie the series). As No. 1, they could not beat SA in SA (that was their best chance to win there). They r yet to beat Aus in Aus. India used to horrible overseas in the 90s, they have just got a bit better in the last 10 yrs. How many overseas series have India won since 2000 outside the subcontinent)? (1 in ENG, 1 in NZ and a couple in WI).

    If the argument is that England can't truly be no. 1 unless this team wins in the subcontinent (against SL or IND), then how come India was no. 1 and gr8 if they haven't won a series in AUS or SA yet? And how come they cudn't beat this English side that is arguably the best English team I've seen since since 1990.

  • Ravi_kumar_Kinnera on September 18, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    Why the Indian team haven't tried Varun Aron? Why did they selected him for England tour, only for sitting in dressing room?? They should have tried him in English conditions atleast for finaly ODI. Giving a chance in Indian conditions may not bring best from any bowler. He has pace, he can bowl 145+ constantly. I know bowling fast may not help without having variations and swing but Varon Aron sholud deserve a chance to proove himself.

    Definitly there is some communication gap between the BCCI who selected Varun Aron and the team in England who selected final XI. India can't be a number one team without having good bowling attack. The tour of England really shown -ve shades of Indian cricket team especially in bowling area. All the good teams has the bowlers who can bowl quick as well as swing. When did india groom with this kind of attack?? BCCI has to think about grooming bowlers not about earning money.

  • Valavan on September 18, 2011, 7:34 GMT

    @rahulcricket007, First of all we know England have not fixed their ODI lineUp. Our team changes every two years, we win some and loose some, our win/loss ratio is 50-50 in terms of ODI series sometimes losses more. If you bring in 5 - 0 whitewash by India, where did that happen, Only in India. India didnt whitewash the England in SA or AUS in a triangular series. What is done with Indian depth then, where did India win out of subcontinent recently in any ODI bilateral series or ODI Tournaments. I know immediately you will point CB series in 2008, well i have answers in 2007, CB series was won by England despite ashes whitewash.if you say If you have drawn SA series, we have also drawn and WON the ODI series, no need to assume once the series is over, its not like had it not rained, SA unlucky, stop those, We are not Windies or Aussies of Past. india is not even a shadow of windies or aussies, understand that too, India won majorly at HOME including the ODI World Cup, thats the truth.

  • Hindh on September 18, 2011, 6:52 GMT

    @getsetgo All those people are ranting against India like this because all of those teams were badly beaten by India in the previous tournaments, It is nothing more than ranting when their respective teams are performing like club teams.

  • ashekahmed on September 18, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    SO FINALLY INDIA PROVED THAT THEY ARE A REAL ORDINARY TEAM AND DESERVES THIS WHITE WASH.LAST YEAR,EVEN BANGLADESH PLAYED BETTER AGAINST ENGLAND IN ENGLAND AS THEY WON A MATCH.SO PROUD INDIAN SUPPORTERS,WAKE UP AND REALIZE WHERE UR CRICKET STANDS.U R DEFINITELY NOT THE REAL WORLD CHAMPIONS....RATHER A POOR ORDINARY TEAM.

  • getsetgopk on September 18, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    @hindh88 i dont think its just the Pakistan fans but bangla, lanka, aus, zim, eng you name it are have a good time with this run down of team india by the poms the only sad thing about it is that its over now so you should be happy hehehehe

  • rahulcricket007 on September 18, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    @landl47.YOU DRAW THE SERIES WITH SA DUE TO SOME LUCK OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE A WIIN FOR SA BY 3-1. AND YOU SAYING THAT ENGLAND BEAT ALL COUNTRIES IN ODIS IN LAST 2 YEARS . LET ME REMIND YOU YOU DIDN'T BEAT AUS IN ODI THEY BEAT YOU TWICE BY 6-1.. ALSO ENG WIN AGAINST PAK,SL &IND IN THEIR HOME OK. DIDN'T YOU REMEMBER LAST TIME INDIA DEFEAT ENG BY 5-0 IN 2008 IN ODIS THAT TOO WHEN ENGLAND WAS PLAYING WITH THEIR FULL STRENGTH TEAM .ALSO YOU SAYING THAT ENGLAND PLAYED WITHOUT ANDERSON , BROAD . I THINK YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE SERIES . ANDERSON PLAYED IN FIRST 3 ODIS AND BROAD PLAYED 4ODIS . COOK IS VERY SMART. HE GIVES FINN AND BAIRSTOW A CHANCE WHEN SERIES WAS ALERADY IN THEIR POCKET TO SHOW THAT ENG IS ALSO WITHOUT THEIR IMPORTANT PLAYERS.AND ALSO I THINK YOU ARE ON THE SEVENTH CLOUD BY BEATING A INDIAN TEAM WHICH IS CURRENTLY BELOW PAR A CLUB LEVEL TEAM . COME IN OCT WHEN INDIAN PLAYERS RETURN IN TEAM WE WILL SEE WHO IS GOOD .

  • landl47 on September 18, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    @lokphy: I had a suspicion you don't follow cricket and you just proved it. You give no weight to England's successes in series (much more significant than single matches as it requires consistent performance) over the last 2 (not 3) years against every major cricket playing country. Instead you simply focus on one tournament, the World Cup, where in a single match anything can happen. Even there you ignore England's successes (beat South Africa, beat West Indies, tied with India) and concentrate only on the matches England lost. Even then you don't get them right- England didn't play Netherlands. India's bowling on this tour was short only one major player, Zaheer, and somehow you believe this is the difference between a worse than club team (your words) and a team of champions. I'm afraid your lack of knowledge of the game is as embarrassing as the results India achieved.

  • Vipins on September 18, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    @mhk21...Aussies and Windies were the only teams which had clear dominence over all the teams for a good amount of period...No Pakistans..SL or India had achieved this yet... Sachin..sehwag and laxman still are the best in the business...England is a very good side now..but still they need to win a lot more at least to reach what India had achieved over the years... Even Aussie lost series in India when they were at their peak...so that should not create panic unless you loose back to back series

  • kripal_singh on September 18, 2011, 1:22 GMT

    Finally Indian Team is realizing harsh truth that Singh is King and without Singh destiny is for failure. Bhajji was not playing and without Punjab Puttar team is without lion. When Bhajji is playing for India when England comes. the lion will roar again. Indian cricket always needed Singh presence for ultimatic glory. Recall Bishen Singh, RanjitSinghji. Gurcharan Singh, Balwinder Singh. Maninder Singh. Manjit Singh Dua, Milkha Singh. Whenever in the team, they have added lion presence to team. Without them team is pussycat. Just wait till England comes to India, Bhajjis ankle would have total healing by then and English team will be tormenting. Cricinfo pl. publish. This will revive sagging morals of Indian people.

  • lokphy on September 18, 2011, 1:20 GMT

    @landl47: cricinfo didn't publish my previous reply to biggus. I hope they will publish this one. Why you go so far to 2-3 years. Why don't you look at the WC.. beaten comprehensively by Ban and Neth. That's why I will not say at present wht you are expecting. So what I am saying is after whitewashing India (at present worst than club team) Eng fans are on top floor. I want to let them know that this was not the ideal bowling attack against whom you register win and call yourself best. Let's wait for the matches with good bowling sides (or at least fully fit India) and then I will be the first to say you are best. I really feel that Eng batsman are not confronted by good bowlers. They are more succumbed to pressure. You can imagine the level of bowling that trott hit maiden six this series after 35 odi matches. Now if you want to comment on India plz have a look at my previous post...

  • kripal_singh on September 18, 2011, 1:14 GMT

    Finally Indian Team is realizing harsh truth that Singh is King and without Singh destiny is for failure. Bhajji was not playing and without Punjab Puttar team is without lion. When Bhajji is playing for India when England comes. the lion will roar again. Indian cricket always needed Singh presence for ultimatic glory. Recall Bishen Singh, RanjitSinghji. Gurcharan Singh, Balwinder Singh. Maninder Singh. Manjit Singh Dua, Milkha Singh. Whenever in the team, they have added lion presence to team. Without them team is pussycat. Just wait till England comes to India, Bhajjis ankle would have total healing by then and English team will be tormenting.

  • WahidUoP on September 17, 2011, 23:17 GMT

    Bangladesh at least one ODIs in their 3 games at England. That is how far India has fallen.

  • Nampally on September 17, 2011, 20:49 GMT

    It did not require a genius to know that Indian bowling is rubbish, as presented in the UK Tests & ODI. India relied only on batting for their success. When batting fails,you see a white wash.Both BCCI & the Indian Selectors waited for the doomsday before" planning to act". The first thing India must do is to have 4 good selectors like Gavaskar, Kumble, Kapil Dev & Ganguly.There should be a fitness clinics with physio & medico's to deal with injuries.Select 44 players - including 20 bowlers.Get these guys mentally & physically fit before considering them to represent India.Rank fast, Off spin, Leg spin & left hand spin bowlers - 4 in each category after they are declared fit.The same goes for opening bats middle order & WK's.These ranking go up & down on performance.This gives 4 teams ranked 1 to 4 & selection should be from this quota. This ensures the best team based on fitness, form & performance- Unfit guys will not get a chance to go to England & make a mockery of indian team

  • on September 17, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    all credits to England for beating the world champion.. it must be a great achievement for a team who have never won a world cup and never been considered as one of the best team..

  • Mappi on September 17, 2011, 19:51 GMT

    England were prepared to take India ON, 100% credit to them, frankly there was no contest, Indian bowling badly hurts them, no matter how much you score you need bowlers to take 20 wickets in test match & 10 wickets in one day game to restict any top inernational side, what England showed they have depth of good young players they are on the way to build one day side, where as Indian badly struggle, there is no use blaming injuries & weather, India was not touring first time. Bottom line is they were ill prepared and underestimated England, Winning World Cup and staying #1 ranking are two differnt out look, to keep # 1 Spot you have to be consistent which had been shown by West Indies in late 70's and 80's and then Austrlian in 90's untill 2007, this is called consistent performance, present result is an eye opener for BCCI think tank, Money is not everything you have to plan & prepare, I am sure India will come back strongly.

  • bijuouseph on September 17, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    when indian selection committee consider all rounder fast bowlers in the place of Munaf and vinay kumar. may be they will consider Nehra in their place. That is their method. look England they have Broad and Bresnan they can bowl and bat in bowling specially they can bowl better than Munaf patel and Munaf Patel don't know how to hold bat. Sure we need all rounder in that place. and why Aaron not get bowling chance ? Now he learned how to bring tea to ground next selection time they can drop. super selection committee. if they under stood any thing from this series sure they will think about all-rounders. We will see?........

  • landl47 on September 17, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    @lokphy: I guess you don't follow cricket, unless maybe it's the IPL. In the last two years England have beaten Australia twice and Pakistan (with their full bowling line-up) and drawn with SA in SA in tests. They have also beaten every major country- Aus, SA, Pak, India, Sri Lanka, WI and Bang- in ODI series and the only reason they haven't beaten, NZ and Zimbabwe, is they haven't played them. England destroyed the Aus bowling attack in tests in Aus last winter- 513-1, 620-5, 517, 644. On a spin-friendly track at the Oval against India Swann got 9-208 in the match while Mishra got 0-170. So, since you said you would be the first to say England are #1 if they prove themselves against other countries- it's time you said it.

  • Nutcutlet on September 17, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    Lots of comments here about India's absolute need to develop fast bowlers. This is my contention - genuinely fast bowlers really do have to be athletes, and if we're honest, India has never produced athletes (look at their Olympic Games' medal record in athletic events; it's an empty cupboard so far as I can discover), but that's no reason why India can't identify some athletes, get them strong and then teach them to be fast bowlers. In a population of 1.2 billion there has to be some few who measure up (figuratively and literally) to what is required to be a genuine quick. Oh, then there's that other matter - keeping them away from IPL where they'll never learn anything useful about becoming a test cricketer. (Interesting that Malinga realises he's done with test cricket although that's what gave him his fame and fortune to begin with!)

  • on September 17, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    All credit to England for playing high quality cricket. They outplayed India in all the departments. But, I am sure India will come back and regain the top spot.

  • on September 17, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    They are Totally Flopped After winning WC2011 It is very Shamefull for any Champion that they lose All Series And ALL matches

  • yorkshirematt on September 17, 2011, 17:53 GMT

    @Biggus- What an excellent post, one of the best I've seen on here. The best pitches, and the ones that offer something for everyone are the best and often produce the most interesting matches. Because of this I believe England, Australia and South Africa have the best pitches. Yes the quicker bowlers generally find these pitches more to their liking, but England currently have Graham Swann, the world's current best spinner, not to mention the greatest spinner of all time, Shane Warne (sorry Sri Lanka fans but imo Warne was the best but that's another thread altogether) who learnt to bowl in Oz. However I do not see India producing a great fast bowler on their wickets, because they give nothing to assist fast bowlers. Therefore their attck is very one dimensional and will be until they do something about their pitches.

  • on September 17, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    its alarm bells ringing on deaf ears, how the captain and coach doesnt understand outside subcontinent you need good skilled pacers with atleast fast medium if not xtreeme pace like our neighbourhood counterparts, pak and srilanka included.the bench is ipl magic slow medium trundlers which many say is what a allrounder like irfan can do it what we can afford. but atleast two fast bowlers with pace 135 to 140 kph should be bowling to achieve good results there is pankaj singh, varun aaron, umesh yadav need to join skilled training and sent to play county cricket in england to hone skills.

  • on September 17, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    dont forget india lost both their one-days vs zimbabwe in zimbabwe last year's 3 nation in zimbabwe and did not qualify for the final, same lame excuses then,, this is just a continuation

  • YorkshirePudding on September 17, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    @biggus, thanks for the compliment, I look forward to England playing the best ODI team in the world (australia) next summer, should be a cracking series.

  • on September 17, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    MSD Your time is OVER...You Have to CHANGE THE GAME!!!!!

  • ramesh5 on September 17, 2011, 16:44 GMT

    This tour has exposed the Indian tema's lack of plan and vision in handling major challenges. There is poor captaincy and lack of any wisdom even on the part of the coach. Our Captain compalins about lack of speed in Indian Pace attack sans Zaheer but fails to include Varun Aeron. To win matches consistantly, you need fast bowlers capable of speeds of 145 and above. He did not notice Umesh yadav in South Africa and now Varun Aeron in England. Both these prospects are genuine fast bowleres and not just line and Length bowlers. In spite od our bowling weakness, why did he not even try him even in one match. This is the greatest failing of Indian Cricket over the years. They do not play fast bowlers but keep on complaining about lack of pace by preferring Medium pacers. M.S.Dhoni does not display vision or killer instinct to be the best. Look at his recent example to setlle for a Draw in the W.I. What is Duncan Fletcher doing and what role does he play. A very poor Capatian and Coach

  • yamin101 on September 17, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    It looks like that our champions were gone to another planet.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on September 17, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    I don't see the need for the Indian fans to be despondent about this ODI series. Our C team, with 7 players missing from the WC final, played the tournament and gave a good fight to England. We have to remember, playing conditions were never the same for two teams, and England always won by D/L method. This is because the Indian bowlers had become redundant due to the wet ball after after the rain. I am sure that India would have won these matches if they had batted second. Let us see how English team performs when it visits us next month, when the playing conditions will be the same for both the teams. Moreover, India can certainly feel good that we found Rahane who appears to be a good batsman. Also Dhoni and Raina found their forms back which bids well for India as far as October series with England is concerned. I wish Dhoni had tried out Varun Aaron, but I guess he will have to wait for the future.

  • on September 17, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    totally blast absolutly 0 % win in the series.. its shameful for the champs..

  • on September 17, 2011, 15:58 GMT

    now Indian fans will give respect to their oppositions & they never underestimate any team

  • Naresh28 on September 17, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    YES ENGLAND WE GOT BLASTED. WE DONT HAVE FAST BOWLERS. WHEN U FACE REAL FAST BOWLERS FROM SA, AUST, WI, AND PAKISTAN THEN WE WILL SEE. THE ONLY THING WE GOT IS THE BEST BATSMAN IN THE WORLD. NOBODY CAN TAKE THE WORLD CUP FROM US FOR THE NEXT THREE YRS. ALSO WE ARE WORK-IN-PROGRESS ON GOOD SPINNERS!!!!

  • Chandima.Ceylon on September 17, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    Oh Indians your batting is still strong to that condition(300+).But what happen to bowling department? where are Sharma,Saheer,Nehra, Praveen Kumar? Are all these injured? why were three part time spinners given 15 overs?

  • on September 17, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    THATS KOOLLLLLLLLLLLL enjoyed it not even a single match

  • cjanap on September 17, 2011, 14:48 GMT

    Humiliating to say the least.....worst ever ive seen...indians dont deserve to be the world champions...

  • Biggus on September 17, 2011, 14:27 GMT

    @lokphy-It's all relative mate. You say there's no help for spinners in England, but we Aussies think the wickets are quite spin friendly there, and to call the English pitches green-tops, as many Indians have, is a bit over the top. Throughout the history of international cricket it's been considered ideal for there to be some grass on the pitch to help it hold together. I saw nothing untoward in the wickets prepared for the series. On the contrary it's the Indian wickets, completely devoid of all grass and doctored to make even the most average spinners deadly that are the anomaly. In England, or for that matter Australia, good spinners will do well but must rely on more than pushing the ball through and letting the wicket do all the work. Who knows, if India were to prepare better balanced pitches they might be able to develop some decent fast bowlers on a regular basis.

  • maja2834 on September 17, 2011, 14:10 GMT

    What a shame..On a pitch where 350+ was par score India scores 300 and then Dhoni (as usual) says we have poor bowlers..How come dhoni is man of the series it should be james anderson..and no one should blame selectors coz when India wins we say its becoz of dhoni captaincy so when we loose its also because of M.S.DHONI

  • CricketFirstLove on September 17, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    It is high time India selected the team purely and purely on merit. The best players were sitting in India or if they were taken they were sitting on the bench during test series. This must stop. And for God's sake stop hero worship of record seekers. Lara could have easily played for another 10 years and broken all records under the sun but he retired giving way for other budding players to blossom and groom. How long will Tendulkar play so that he makes records after records and India loose matches after matches. High time some sense and balance prevailed.

  • 5wombats on September 17, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    @gm47; he he! ".. what excuse next.... if Indians could play cricket as well as they make excuses they would still be No 1 in the world"... That's brilliant...he he! Wish I'd thought of that! LOL.

  • wackwella on September 17, 2011, 13:51 GMT

    The ultimate whitewash making Indian team completely wet. A great lesson for arrogant world champions. BCCI should rethink about their decision to play limited number of games against countries like Bangaladesh and Zimbabwe. India is not as good as BCCI thinks.

  • on September 17, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    England totally outperformed, outclassed and outplayed India in every department of the game. Awesome performance by the English! The fact that we didn't win a single game shows how much England dominated. Great job England! Hats off for having won this series handsdown.

  • lokphy on September 17, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    OK.. so much said about Eng success and now predictions for future. I think these two teams had no match.. specially because of D grade fast bowling of India and no help for spinners in Eng.... So although Eng played very well, I cannot believe yet they are best. Remember the present India team is nothing better than club team or even worse than that... it would be interesting to see how Eng perform against world class bowling attacks... if they can repeat same performances against Aus, SA, and Pak bowlers, I will be first to say Eng have become best.. this is not defending India but if even Zak would have been fit.. Eng would have struggled the full tour and would have lost from the crucial points in the matches.. e.g first test.. but it is India who is to be blamed for not properly managing their players.. not being able to find fast back-up bowlers and lack of planning/preparations. It will be good if Eng fan wait to see their performance against good bowling before jumping a lot.

  • Indian_Fan09 on September 17, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    This tour is the WORST TOUR Ive ever seen as an Indian Cricket Fan!! This team should be named as DHONI'S LOSERS FOR FAILING TO WIN A SINGLE (intl) MATCH IN THE ENTIRE TOUR just like Bradman's Invincibles of 1948 who did not lose a single match in the enitre tour of England!! I cant believe how we won the world cup few MONTHS back!! We may have been the luckiest team ever to win the world cup!!

    Im amazed that how did Dhoni get Man of The Series award? Why was the award announced when the match was not completed?? Why did the "Media" choose the Man of the Series instead of the umpire panel?? Who is the "Media"??

    And for those who say that England did this because they are playing at home, we ll do the same if you come to India, Please give English team some credit because they were stronger across all formats than us!! AND DONT FORGET WE WON THE WORLD CUP ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS HELD IN INDIA!! With that set of bowlers, we would have been lucky to reach the semis if it was held at outside

  • reality_check on September 17, 2011, 13:29 GMT

    Karma is what comes to mind. Lots of Indian fans were mocking the Pakistan team's last whitewashed tour in Australia on cricinfo forums. Atleast Pakistan wasn't #1 test ranked team and had won CWC prior to Aus tour... Ouch!!

  • on September 17, 2011, 13:29 GMT

    Well it is fair enough to say that India lost the series due to pedestrian bowling (I am not taking anything away from the brilliant Praveen Kumar), but we desperately need some pace. Having said that, the ODis were enough to prove that English bowling is not good enough for ODIs. And with the swing in the early overs gone, it would be fun to see the Andersons and Bresnans being mowed through the line in India. But, i seriously feel that even in India, England would be a very potent force, what with our pedestrian 'fast' bowlers.

  • Rafelgibt on September 17, 2011, 13:22 GMT

    This whole series ENG were simply the best. Congrats to them. I feel very sorry for the IND but they were no match to ENG. What IND board will do now???Are they going to take the initiative to do something better or they would be busy to make money organizing IPL, ICL or something more profitable else???

  • bobmartin on September 17, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    I guess some good has come out of this whole tour. Indian supporters have had no need to retype all their comments.. They can just copy and paste their excuses from the first match to the last.

  • on September 17, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    The lowest ranked are not chasing India now, rather India is running to them. Now if Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, WI or NZ can take a few steps forward they can catch or get past the Indian team in no time. LOL!

  • ecricinfo on September 17, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    good England Keep it up! now time to beat India in India

  • Hindh on September 17, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    A message to some funny comments made by PAk fans. Present INdian team can beat pak any day on any ground however weak our bowling may be, Which was recently proved in the Semi finals of WC. Pak team will simply crumble under pressure of playing INdia... So dont make silly comments unrelated to this article.

  • Biggus on September 17, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    Well done Poms. I don't believe I've ever enjoyed you guys winning as much as in this series. Thumbs up from down under.

  • iNsiDers on September 17, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    India will bounce back ..... But .... in India .... lol. What a shame for World Champions (only if Matches are played in Sub-continent). Congrats to England from Pakistan (who played much much much better cricket than India).

  • sivy_man on September 17, 2011, 12:59 GMT

    Even if India get back tendulkar, sehwag, patel, sharma, harbhajan and y.singh back, they would still not be involved in an equally robust contest with england. The main man India have missed is zaheer. He is the 5th best test bowler in the world and his presence on the field lists other indian medium pacers. If he is not playing against england in india only spinning pitches can help india out and even in thode conditions swann and dernbach's slower ball may be too good for many batsmen

  • on September 17, 2011, 12:49 GMT

    MSD is God. He is Superman, Hanuman, Shaktiman the Ultimate Omega Man. HE WILL COME CHAMPS!!!

  • Prabh_Hundal on September 17, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    congs to England....n i love the sixes of J.Bairstow he has a bright future with Jos Buttler who is also very good.........DONT WORRY INDIA SAME HUMILATION IS WAITING FOR ENGLAND AS THERE ONLY GOOD IN THERE HOME CONDITIONS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE A SECOND SPINNER N THERE SO CALLED BEST BOLLWING ATTACK WILL TOOTHLESS AS WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE IN INDIA N ALSO IN ENGLAND AS RAINA, DHONI ,KHOLI,RAHAANE ALL HAVE DOMINATED AGAINST THEM IN ODI SERIES. IN CASE OF TEST I THINK SOUTH AFRICA IS BETTER THAN ENGLAND AS THEY HAVE ALL DEPARTMENT COVERED N THE CHALLENGE FOR ENGLAND IS TO WIN IN UAE WHERE I CAN BET AJMAL, REHMAN CAN EXPOSE THERE BATTING N IN SRI LANKA WHERE HERATH , MENDIS, RANDIV WILL EXPOSE THEM N THEN FINALLY THEY ARRIVE IN INDIA WHERE ASHWIN , OJHA WILL EXPOSE THEM. i can bet england will lost there no.1 status soon ALSO I DONT UNDERSTAND THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT WHY VARUN IS IN THE TEAM IF HE IS NOT GOING TO GET A CHANCE .

  • on September 17, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    I still feel, if a team loses as many as 7 key players during a tour, it will be a disaster in just about any form of the game. Aus lost three, Warnie, McGrath and Hayden(Langer and Gili are also there) and they were beaten by Eng, Ind, SA. Its bound to happen, I'm sure if Anderson, Broad, KP and Swann would have got injured, Eng could have had troubles in that test series. I still believe that Tremlett and Bresnan are not quite in the same league and look feeble at times. Bresnan was pathetic by the way, in this ODI series. Eng, come to India, and trust me, things will be different. I'm not saying you will lose, but it won't be a cakewalk this time. Just like India, you have won these games in your home soil. Don't go talking about your Ashes win, it was a depleted Aus and still gave you some tough moments, I'm sure if you were to play them again, say today. You will know flukes don't always happen. :-)

  • Midnight_Blues on September 17, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    love a whitewash... more so when the champions go down is all 3 formats. nevermind, hone your skills in IPL. very impressed with Dravid, as always. A true batsman's batsman!

  • Ammdex-tro on September 17, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    India might have won the World Cup, but here they have just proven that they are NOT the best team in the world. Smashed in all three formats of the game by England, and couldn't manage a single victory. Is that the stuff of champions? Or are England too good? Well, even in the World Cup, India couldnt defend a huge total of 330 something against England. When's the last time the so-called 'World Champions' beat England?

  • on September 17, 2011, 12:13 GMT

    I guess now INDIAN fans would all be hoping to take revenge in their home series against ENGLAND...but remind you....it would be cold nights in INDIA...and favourable conditions for the ENGLISH bowlers again...so i dont think the series would be easy for INDIA....

  • kevinpp24 on September 17, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    If I remember correct in the 1st ODI England's target was revised to 164 in 20 overs but England already lost 7 overs and were 27 for 2 (I'm pretty sure Kieswetter would have smacked everything if he had known it would be T20 not 6 off 19 balls). Even if they went on to score those 137 in 13 overs these Indian fans still would have said D/L method favored England. No no use in arguing with these fans.

  • kashif670 on September 17, 2011, 12:01 GMT

    white wash!! whitewash!! whitewash!!!!.... the only sad thing about this tour is that its over !!..non stop england domintaion for two months!!! ....

  • YorkshirePudding on September 17, 2011, 12:01 GMT

    @puntertakeson, aww the poor darlings, what was it the indian fans said when the same thing happened to England in the WC when swann and the other bowlers had problems gripping the ball......IRC it was 'Get over it!!!'.

  • Jim27 on September 17, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    My heartiest congratulations to team England n all 3 Captains!!

  • Lord.emsworth on September 17, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    The whole tour has been pitiful and a mega comedown for Indian fans who live and breathe cricket. However, there is such an abundant reserve of young talent in India today that the world could be well rest assured that such a debacle will be difficult to happen again. Its just that the Indian selctors must be bold and axe the ageing mega star top order batsmen and go for the young guys waiting, and waiting in the wings. Time to be re-build. Time to be great again oh India!!...

  • BanglaChild on September 17, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    "I saw a film today, oh boy. The English Army had just won the war". CONGRATULATIONS England on a wonderful 'Indian Summer' on the 'dark side of the moon'. After all that has been said and done. There will not be a replacement of one person and that is The Great Wall of India- Rahul Dravid- Salute!

  • N.M.Howard on September 17, 2011, 11:41 GMT

    Good performance from England throughout the summer although against an under cooked Indian team (with the exception of the always selfless and outsanding Dravid). Why isn't there much mention of the depth of English bowling on here. With the likes of Tremlett, Broad, Bresnan, Anderson, Onions, Woakes, Dernbach, and the speedster Finn England have two, and with the addition of one more, possibly three world class bowling line ups capable of taking twenty wickets. And with Graeme Swann perfoming so well the much improved Panesar down at Sussex doesn't get a look in. Finn was the most impressive. These last two games clocking 93-4mph is a good 10 mph quicker than Bresnan and Broad's average speed, two bowlers who are not exactly slow to say the least.Very exciting times ahead for English cricket. However, expecting a much improved India performance in Indian conditions

  • on September 17, 2011, 11:35 GMT

    @krithika prasad.. yeah it is wet and ashwincannot spin the ball magically yet he is the economical bolwer yestersya..instead of giving those extra overs to jadeja dhoni might have used ashwin..coz english batsmen struggled to come on to him

  • Mappi on September 17, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    Why indian fans are crying so loudly, they had been beaten & outplayed by England in both Test & One Day series, Credit should be given to Engalnd the way they had prepared themselves, unfortunately it became a one sided series, if India lost so many players , same goes for England but there were oppurtunity for other players to turn up, Any# 1 team have to be consistent, its a fact Indian under estimated England thats was the blunder, beleive India will turn around strongly where as England are on the Roll since last 24 months their graft is on the peak, well played England.

  • luckyeddie on September 17, 2011, 11:22 GMT

    What rubbish people posted about the toss deciding the series, and how hard done to India were because of 'lucky Cook'.

    India won the toss in the 1st test at Lords, the 2nd test at Trent Bridge and the T20 at Old Trafford. It didn't do them any good in those games, so why on earth should it have made any difference in the 50 over version of the game?

  • on September 17, 2011, 11:12 GMT

    The fact is India have lost badly. Injuries/home/IPL are just Lame Excuses. I do not expect a bettter result than 3-2 for India in upcoming home series in INDIA. Even the result may be reverse.

  • gm47 on September 17, 2011, 11:08 GMT

    @Sidharthsavla... "climatic conditions" won the series for England :) :) you are so funny :).. I've heard all the excuses, rain, bad umpiring, India's English coach(Which he isn't)lost the match for the indians... what excuse next.... if Indians could play cricket as well as they make excuses they would still be No 1 in the world :) BTY Sidharthsavla, if India win in India is that down to "climatic conditions" ? In that case I guess you will change your tune :) Crickinfo pls publish :)

  • Railneer on September 17, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    World cup is ours..Let others win these small matches if they can't win large.

  • Aane_do on September 17, 2011, 11:04 GMT

    Injury Injury Injury....Rain Rain Rain...what happened to indians? if u talk abt injury then u dont realize abt broad, morgan, strauss was not playing ,peiterson was rested in last ODI andersn was not playing ..english second boowling attack won a match from u.dnt make excuse ..u have lost now...m feeling sorry for u ...n u deserve on word....LOLzzzzzzzz

  • on September 17, 2011, 10:57 GMT

    itz all over.. lets start fresh. new horizons and new hopes..

  • on September 17, 2011, 10:52 GMT

    ohhhh now blame is weather...see your performance first.. this climate makes u draw 1 match otherwise.....

  • on September 17, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    Bangladesh has much better bolling attack than Present Indian attack. last year BD won an ODI in England and showed some real character in lord test, India achieved nothing this year . Feel sorry for those supporters who are always after BD cricket. They should have to think about themselves before questioning other country's test status.

  • on September 17, 2011, 10:36 GMT

    i must say even under 15 players can hit long sixes to vinay kumar and munaf patel. due to these pathetic bowlers India lost 2 matches in world cup and this tour. Srikant should resign right away other wise must be sacked otherwise he will kee sendinng players like murli vijay, shreeshant, vinay kumar my be send his son to bat in place for dravid

  • Bilal.Saeed on September 17, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    India is without a quality bowler and its impossible to win matches without such. Pace bowling is the requirement likes of Shoaib Akhter, Brett Lee, Wasim, Waqar, Denis Lilly etc. India cant win like this

  • Pritt32 on September 17, 2011, 10:13 GMT

    India needs to focus on quality cricket rather than IPL. Indian player's behaved disgracefully in the tour, as they lacked fighting spirit and commitment. The team were complacent after winning the world cup and now it should be treated as a distance memory, as many aspects needs improving. They were too busy going to shows, football matches, Bollywood concerts and events rather than devoting time to practising as the England players showed. The injury list was huge, but still not an excuse to perform like this, as the series was so one-sided and lacking competiveness. South Africans will play a lot better than this when they tour England next year and India should really feel ashamed. The team needs a good kick in the backside and fresh selectors. The coach and captain needs to stamp their authorities with the players.The batting is very good, but let down by very poor bowling, poor commitment and lack of desire to win matches. India team is a shambles and it is time for change.

  • randikaayya on September 17, 2011, 10:12 GMT

    @Sehwadologist: Thats the trouble with India and Indians mate, you hardly understand the big picture. Atleast you have the decency to admit it, weldone!

  • kashmniazi on September 17, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    About time Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Harbhajan, Munaf and RP Singh take retirement from all forms of Int. cricket and concentrate on playing IPL only.

  • mickeyakshay on September 17, 2011, 9:53 GMT

    Why everyone is saying England won the series becoz of rain and injuries ?.. if rain affected India,it also affected England in the same manner.....even England are playing without KP,Morgan..Anderson didnt play the last ODI..... During the test series India tried all of their superstars and all failed.....the truth is indians don't love real cricket, they never admire bowling as a part of Cricket...India won the world cup becoz it was held in the sub-continent, otherwise they couldn't have done it.....Dhoni is the most over-rated cricketer of all time, better check his record,he has never scored a century outside the sub-continent,neither in tests nor in ODIs, he just knows how to come at 7th position n keep his average high, he has the weekest technique among all indian batsmen.

  • g.narsimha on September 17, 2011, 9:50 GMT

    congratENG best of luck for forth coming IND tour if reve rsal happen s & ENG gets same humialation as we have seen during the wcup, all those who are celebrating on INDs defeats saying IND are home tigers, same logic can applied to ENG also as there is nothing for ENG to show in IND for the last 2 decats

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    sad for loses but happy about Best batting performances :)

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    Well played England! You are well deserving victors. No need to lose heart my dear Indians. You guys really played the ODI series with a lot of heart, and all matches were close ones. That the results did not show doesn't really make you bad cricketers. The best part was the way the new faces did. Rahane was solid, Parthiv was confident, Virat keeps improving, Raina and Dhoni got some good partnerships. With all frontline bowlers getting injured, putting up this much of a fight itself is heart warming.

    All in all, a very absorbing series for me.

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Way to go ENGLAND!!!! That was just a fab tour.

  • M_Rakibul_Islam on September 17, 2011, 9:35 GMT

    Some (not all) Indian fans used to criticize weak teams like NZ, WI, BAN, PAK, ZIM etc. for poor performances. But it's time to receive some replies too. If BCCI continue to emphasize IPL more & more in future, then IND won't win away series against weaker teams(?) llike NZ, PAK, WI, even BAN or ZIM (lol). World Champions r now No. 5 team on ICC ODI Ranking. A lot more disasters r waiting for them in future as IPL(Indian Premiere League) will create a long IPL(Injured Player List-- courtesy:Kavindeven)!! So all Indian cricketers & board must b aware of it.

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:34 GMT

    if we believe Sensibly are blessing in disguise,After lifting The World Cup ,Crowned Test Top ranker and money power strengthen further through IPL Unlike Australia India are likely to be fall miserably at crucial juncture but this(England Serie) probably wiill be a great and strong wake up call.We have seen in 2007 world cup were India knocked out disastreously from their on they go ahead step by step winning every place in the World and in process Won the World T20,World cup and Ranked No1 test status

  • on September 17, 2011, 9:34 GMT

    I wonder why everyone is just blaming Indian bowlers only, what did the batsmen do ???? Max 300 in 8 innings of Test matches...That's shameful for a batting line up having Sehwag, gambhir, tendulker, dravid, laxman, yuvraj, raina, dhoni... Remember sehwag played 2 out of 4 tests n did nothing and so as gambhir and yuvraj....

  • chiggers on September 17, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    @Kavindeven - agreed about the IPL; it's as relevant to real cricket as the Harlem Globetrotters are to real basketball. It's an entertaining couple of hours for those who know nothing about the sport, the result doesn't matter and it makes the owners a lot of money - which is what really matters to the owners.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    I dont understand why Dhoni didnt use Ashwin, the main strike bowler and the leading wicket taker as present situation???? Always i have seen this concept in the world cup matches also and he used his own clarifications. IS THAT TO PROTECT BAJI????? anyway ashwin, zaheer, praveen, these three are the only good bowlers now india have. and ASHWIN should get a permanent place in the 1st 11. he is also a useful batsman.

  • asimmuz on September 17, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Indian team deserve to be a no.5 in ICC ranking and is now rightly stand there after a shameful defeat.I think Mr. Dhoni should stop giving excuses of injuries and weather/pitch conditions. Its enough nw and should accept his defeat realising that indian bowling strength is some how equalent to Zimb , Ireland and Bandgladesh and legendary batsman tendulakar and sehwag plays only good cricket on indian pitches.If the worldcup 2011 was in England then i m sure tendulakr, sehwag and dravid had given their retirements uptil nw and will be focusing for IPL but they are exposed right after winning the biggest event in world circket. Its very disappointment for the Indian and Cricket FANS to see a champion team defeated like college and university team !

  • yorkshire-86 on September 17, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    Now all we need to do is get rid of the dead wood from the team, ie Samit Fatel. 2 dropped catches and 8 overs of hit me's, exactly what does he bring to the team? Nice to see Bairstow get a chance, being a wicketkeeper often hinders a batsmen's chance of getting into the team, Bairstow, Kieswetter, Prior, Buttler, Davies all would have played far more ODIs purely as batsmen than they have done if they wernt wicketkeepers!

  • cric4zh on September 17, 2011, 8:47 GMT

    thats the way aha aha i like it!

  • cricveda on September 17, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    I am INDIAN FAN I agree LUCK should not always be blamed for.. knowing there would be due they should have gone with 4 pacers and india never encourage pace bowlers i hate dhonis attitude towards cricket he thinks if can control run rate we can pick wickets u need pace bowlers.. Where have they given opportunity many younsters like varun,umesh,dinda they bloody pick useless spinners like munaf,vinay.U need pace is what dhoni doesnt agree his attitude is not right we need to first kick SRIKANTH out and then kick medium pace spinners out bring in pacers let them for runs they will improve with time .but u need pace bowlers India will then be back to world no one status.

  • Green_How on September 17, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    As an England fan i am also going to add my disappointment at some of the sour comments coming from India fans. You need to get real, England have now smashed your team out of site in tests, T20 and now ODIs. The injuries have been unfortunate to India but what it has highlighted is the total lack of depth in your cricket, especially in the bowling department. England on the other hand have unearthed some exciting new batting stars and have a battery of fast bowlers to dominate test cricket especially for many years. Sorry to gloat but when you read some of the garbage written on here, the gloating feels warranted.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    Its seems that When luck arise everything falls in the Place but when luck falls everything dissaray Dhoni might find that 3 years ago During England tour of India the English side failed to chase 220,conceed 370 but now every thing redeemed

  • Nutcutlet on September 17, 2011, 8:33 GMT

    Although this ODI series' result looks totally one-sided, it has to be said that at least India competed. Some of their younger players showed some spirit and certainly the fielding was better than in the test series. There were good individual performances from some of the batsmen but the bowling was totally, embarrassingly threadbare. An average county attack would have offered more threat. As for England - they have developed the confidence to win from almost any situation. In other words, they have total belief in their collective ability and each player takes on a full measure of responsibility, like the true professionals they are. Every time India looked threatening, along came another stand-out performance to see off the impudence, even if that player was making his debut! Grading for India in ODIs - batting A; bowling E; fielding B. England batting A; bowling B-; fielding B+. Just my opinion of course!

  • Sakthiivel on September 17, 2011, 8:31 GMT

    Be Indian we should accept that We lost to a better team. We dont have a better bowlers to defend our scores. No excuse of Rain, IPL and Injury. These look crazy. We never get England wickets, even we got 350+ they might get it with our weak blowing attack .

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:29 GMT

    Though I am an Indian fan,I would lyk 2 say that 'REALLY WELL PLAYED ENGLAND - Even if India had won Lords odi,scoreline would have read Eng 3 and Ind 1 and India still would have lost the series.MSD played well as he got Man of series award bt his stupid captaincy amused me n was main cause of our loss in 5th odi : Bowling Ashwin for 4 overs and nt 7(Instead Jadeja bowled more overs than Ashwin),wrong field placements,nt selecting Varun in playing 11.Though I am an Indian fan,I would lyk 2 say that 'REALLY WELL PLAYED ENGLAND - Even if India had won Lords odi,scoreline would have read Eng 3 and Ind 1 and India still would have lost the series.MSD played well as he got Man of series award bt his stupid captaincy amused me n was main cause of our loss in 5th odi : Bowling Ashwin for 4 overs and nt 7(Instead Jadeja bowled more overs than Ashwin),wrong field placements,nt selecting Varun in playing 11.Though I am an Indian fan,I would lyk 2 say that 'REALLY WELL PLAYED ENGLAND - Even if I

  • samya1980 on September 17, 2011, 8:28 GMT

    i still believe that this eng team not the best amongst the lot,not in odi not in test even.they are just going through a good period as india were for the last couple of years.their no1 tag will be for 1 or 2 years as well like india.comparing this eng with wi of 1980s or aus of late 90s will be like comparing between federrer and dokovich(infact dokovich spells his name wrong). as far as india is concerned this india cricket team can easily be beaten by indian hocky team...ha!i still believe that this eng team not the best amongst the lot,not in odi not in test even.they are just going through a good period as india were for the last couple of years.their no1 tag will be for 1 or 2 years as well like india.comparing this eng with wi of 1980s or aus of late 90s will be like comparing between federrer and dokovich(infact dokovich spells his name wrong). as far as india is concerned this india cricket team can easily be beaten by indian hocky team...ha!

  • ian_ghose on September 17, 2011, 8:27 GMT

    World Champions (sic)!!!! Now ranked - a royal 5th in the world! lol! Is that deserved? You betcha!! I just can't help feeling that India's world cup win was the biggest fluke since - India's 1983 world cup win (or maybe there was foul play involved?) Moral of the story? If you're lazy and rubbish, the world will know it, pretty soon :)

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    @ Naveed hashmi I agree with you 100% As an Englishman I have nothing but respect and admiration for Dravid, a true Gentleman, Team player, and sportsman and all time great player. He can hold his head high from what he has acheived during his career and also this otherwise sorry summer for India. Praveen Kumar strikes me as a likeable fellow as well and whilst not blessed with Dravid's greatness he also can hold his head high, he gave it 100% every time he bowled.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    FUTURE OF INDIAN CRICKET LSE LOSE LOSE................................................................

  • 5wombats on September 17, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    @puntertakeson; friend, it wasn't the match that was uneven - it was the whole tour. @Gupta.Ankur; some facts for you; india won the toss in 2 of the Tests and the T20 and they still lost badly, so the "winning the toss" excuse is no use. @Kritika Prasad - the stats you quote are irrelevent. The relevent ODI stat here including the recent ind V Eng World Cup game, reads india played 6 won 0. I agree - there is a reality check here, but not the one you think. @Sidharthsavla; "Now its there turn to come n play England Tour Of India...then we will show them...." blah, blah, blah. Disappointingly predictable. @hira02 - it's good that the tour has ended, because now we won't have to read your excuses any more. Such comments give an unfavourable impression.... But finally @Cpt.Meanster - well said. It hasn't been the tour you expected - and you along with the great majority of realistic India followers are entitled to ask for much more. I applaud your support for your team.

  • aracer on September 17, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    Like India fans I'm glad the tour is over because I won't have to read any more excuses from them about injuries, rain, not playing 50 overs, "India A team", waiting for the re-match, it being a moral victory to India, etc. To paraphrase the old one about the umpire's comments to the batsman who says he wasn't out, if you think it didn't count for all these reasons, you should check the latest ICC rankings (though doubtless now you're ranked lower than England in both you'll suggest they don't count either). As for the re-match in India, well we'll see when we get there, but I confidently predict that whilst India might win the series, England will win at least one match, and what's more you won't see the same sort of complaining from England fans on these forums if we do lose.

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    Dear all,

    Pl understand apart from all factors the rain is a big spoil sport in this game. we may argue being indian supporters that had the 50 overs been played english batsmen would not have gone for such demolishing batting at such pace or indian bowlers would have bowled to get wickets not to bowl to control runs.

    Yes from English supporters they may argue that if they can hit 240 odd in these many overs they would have finished balance in two to three overs.

    but ....fact is 50 overs were not played in atleast 3 out of 5 matches where india hit 270 plus and 304/6 and handsome score in 3 of them. and england won 3-0.

    celebrate your win and dont blame indian cricketers who did present a decent performance when they batted. there was an instance when england was left shivering at 17/2.

    best regards

    Ravee

  • ansram on September 17, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    Rain certainly dampened India's chances. A revised target is almost always easy to get even if RR is higher because you can switch into T20 mode without worrying about wickets. That does not of course take away England's brilliance this summer, they denied a single win to India who came here as a so called no 1 team. After this series. certain truths have emerged.

    1. India have been shown where they belong in terms of rankings. No.1 was sort of fluke and it has been proved beyond doubt now.

    2. The IPL and other workloads led to so many injuries ( I lost count how many) and it is time the BCCI and players take precations not to repeat this or else India will continue to slide.

    3. Dhoni who used to say - "We have never been known for our fielding. Bowling is not our strength." must obviously realize having a few good batmen won't win you much. India need to find good bowlers and improve fielding, this is looking like school cricket. The 90's India team looks much better.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on September 17, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    I dont understand whats the big deal in losing an odi series which was closely fought without 8 WC winning players in away conditions right after ashes eng lost 6-1to australia TWICE it was a pointless series then but now since they have won its very important what pivotal is WC trophies and championships and we saw same english team lose to bangladesh,ireland what does it prove anyone ? ENGLAND LOST ALL THEMATCHES WHEN THEY TOURED IN 2008 WHY WAS THERE NO HOOPLAH THEN THAT TOO FULL STRENGTH NOT 8 INJURED

  • gamespplplay on September 17, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    a warm congratulations to England for a very well played series and their outstanding success. Well done!

  • on September 17, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    Bangladesh won an ODI in last Eng tour!but alas IndiaBangladesh won an ODI in last Eng tour!but alas India

  • ashvenky on September 17, 2011, 8:01 GMT

    How can Dhoni be MOS. Should have been Bopara? Cricket can's survive without pleasing Indians/ BCCI?

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    one word for Indian cricket team "LOL"

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    Where are all those Indian fans who were calling for Pakistan to be excluded from test cricket after their tour on England last year???.

  • Romenevans on September 17, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    @ - Gokul Kanda - LOL here we go again. I'm an Indian and i care about the national team that represent India. No some stupid CSK, Circus League T20 and IPL (Injured Players List). Wake up and start watching real cricket, where your dhoni fails miserably. Actually can't cause you're so addicted to this circus called IPL.

  • DaveMorton on September 17, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    As a Yorkshireman, I am proud of young Jonny B - a brilliant debut performance, even if the bowling was the worst he will have faced since playing house matches at St Peter's School.

    As a mathematician, I appreciate the contribution of Duckworth & Lewis who have rescued this ODI series from a watery grave. Once again, at Cardiff, the calculations were spot on; they 'felt right' to a cricketer.

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:34 GMT

    He is really a great batsman..... truly a team player.... He has earned respect from everyone... including his opponents.... He is one player after Ganguly who had earned respect and fans from other countries as well..... He is 1000 times better than SRT when it comes to selflessness and team objectives....

  • mhk21 on September 17, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    england completed the demolition of india in england ....now they need to rip off india in their own home ....if they do so.....then aus tour comes and i am sure india will be trashed the same way by the aussies ....and this will create panic in indian cricket ...so i guess this year will be the end of sachin ...laxman...shewag ....and history will be created about the downfall of india cricket after winning the world cup.....instead its the opposite for teams after winning the world cup look at australia after the winning the 99 wc and pakistan after the 92 wc ......

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    worst bowlers ever for the indian team. its not the batsmen to be blamed but the bowlers. infact india could have a greater chance if they could have played with all 11 batsmen as atleast these batsmen could bowl better than the bowlers for this series. irfan even if he failed to bowl he could have batted. same for yusuf pathan. wat a poor selection of players by the board. jadega selected in the last moment. i feel its beter to play with allrounders instead of bowlers. the english bowlers were excellent both in batting nad bowling while the indian bowlers seemed terrible just swinging it here and there. wat a disgrace fo rthe indian team

  • cricpolitics on September 17, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    These lazy Indian cricketers opted for a fun time a day before the match where as English team was busy practicing in the ground. No wonder why Indian players get injured in a heap. It's just a shame for the whole India that so many of their spoiled cricketers can't keep up with the tough requirements of the game. One of the problems is that these Indian players are too mingled with Bollywood through IPL and Champions leagues and they have started thinking like Bollywood movie heroes who can do anything anywhere but they don't realize that real cricket is not a Bollywood movie so they need to wake up from their dreams. They must come out of Chuck De India show.

  • khurramsch on September 17, 2011, 7:24 GMT

    why some indian fans saying rain win england series. ok 1 match u could say that & in 4th which ended draw. but else where rain did help england 3rd game was close one just because england revided total in 43 overs. & last night actual run rate was 6.08 but revised was above 7 per over with 13 power play overs not 20. so how can rain helped england last night?

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    Kavindeven : Beware of csk they can thrash all team and u also ok

  • khurramsch on September 17, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    @hira02: how does rain help england here? india scored 304 runs @6.08 with 20PP overs. england target revised 241 in 34 @ 7 per over with 13 PP overs. so how does that makes things better? less overs logic doesnot work when ur asking rate increases. Bairstow has a good debut & confident one. stokes ws disapointment. india did batted well in these odi series & finaly dhoni is back in action. but i think england major gain is that they found somehow a man in every situation.

  • 200ondebut on September 17, 2011, 7:13 GMT

    Another star in the making! Bairstow showed class and composure - lets all hope he kicks on from this excellent start. Well done England - lets now prove all those wrong who say we'll struggle this winter.

  • on September 17, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    The funniest part is how the rubbish comments made by Pakistanis (who are still hurting from continuously losing to India ever since Akram retired) are being ignored here ! SUPER COOL !

  • Herath-UK on September 17, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    Congrats to England.Looking back at the summer Sri Lanka offered much better quality cricket than indian team though Sri Lankans came in dribs and drabs from IPL.Was this an ignominious record by india with a complete whitewash in all formats of the game? Both India & Sri Lanka face somewhat uncertain future with their ageing stars and not so good new comers.When Sachin,Dravid ,Shewag,Sanga,Mahela and Dilshan etc retire,England seems to have a long rein if they prove their mettle in the subcontinent too. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • cricpolitics on September 17, 2011, 7:11 GMT

    No surprises. After the test losses it was very much on the cards. Some Indian fans are still in denial and still have an illusion that England just won by luck. The reality is that Indian team has reached at it's deserved rankings now. Going forward first India need to make sure that they have fit players who can play real cricket. The current lot is just not fit enough for the real game they have just become cricket actors who perform on the stages like IPL and Champions League. What a shame and an embarrassment for such a big country of over one billion people.

  • AdY113 on September 17, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    One things for sure after this series..There is absolutely no comparison at all between India and Pakistan as far as Fast Bowling is concerned..India should start looking for Quality Pace bowlers soon coz this set of bowlers wont be winning them Worldcup again..its clear after this series that batting alone can never win you anything..and almost anything can be chased if u have a poor bowling lineup..

  • popped on September 17, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    @hira02 agreed it was an India A team but still ENG C team ( Going by your logic) team managed to win the last ODI, mate you need help, you are in denial ,who is to blame for injuries? utterly poor team management and sheer arrogance to the core

  • Valavan on September 17, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    @hira2, at this part o the time WI won the Champions Trophy in 2004. @rahulcricketindia, please switch off caps, but mind that India have been fairly beaten by a side which is still finding the right combination for ODIs. Rest all about D/L and other things are pure jealousy of indian fans.

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:59 GMT

    I think india have been very unlucky through out the one day series. when nothing is going your way even god tends to stop helping you thats what has happened with india. In every match they have had to bowl with a wet outfiled and wet ball.

  • pal_dubai on September 17, 2011, 6:54 GMT

    India's complete demolition in England was due to lack of preparation and failure on the part of BCCI. Players should not be blamed. Under the circumstances team India has done a commendable job. There was no bench strength as far as bowlers are concerned. England had prepared for the Test, T20 and One day series meticulously. The series results are reflection of the difference in leaderships at ECB and BCCI.

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    Congrats England, hard luck for India :)

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    @Kavindeven csk's reign will never get over......just wait and see..and btw dhoni is the man of the series this time....NSW are like mice to CSK....just imagine mice in a LION'S DEN

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:39 GMT

    While the skipper, Indian cricket fans and experts lament about the lack of quality fast bowler, it was baffling not to see Varun Aaron in the starting line-up yesterday! He was flown-in as a replacement bowler and since then has been cooling his heels in the dressing room! And the guys who get the game - inlcude Munaf, Vinay Kumar and R P Singh! I think as Waseem Akram said, for Indian cricket it is not only important to 'find' a genuine fast bowler but also 'make him play'! With series lost, the last game could have been an ideal debut for Varun. While the batting department looks fine, it is the bowling department which is a grave concern, particularly in Test Matches! And this includes both the pacers and spinners! Just hoping against hope that some corrective actions with long-term view in mind are taken by the BCCI. However, looking at BCCIs functioning, I think it is a bit asking for too much!

  • puntertakeson on September 17, 2011, 6:35 GMT

    @landl47 and @5wombats accept the fact rain saved English cricket team. Whenever ball travels to out field it becomes wet and bowler unable to grip the ball. If you take a look carefully, ball neither swinging nor Spinning. So it's an uneven match I'm just imagining, if Ravi Bopara and Jonny Bairstow can it then how Rania and Rahane would be playing on those condition. Throughout the series "Rain" made difference. Come on Cricinfo publish my comment.

  • mohsin9975 on September 17, 2011, 6:31 GMT

    I ve got bored writing this bt cant help. Vinay kumar is nt int'l class. He may hav taken loads of wickets in domestic matches bt he is unsuitable in this lineup which has bowlers of similar pace as him bt certainly more effective than him. Even agarkar is better than him today. Dhoni has to b quizzed as to why aron wasnt picked. I had suspicions that indias bowling was never as gud as it was made out to b in last 2 yrs. I knew this attack was at par wid b'desh nd zim(wi r better)in last 2 yrs. The batsmen put pressure on teams by scoring heavily in both tests nd odis

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:28 GMT

    Ugh!Was this even ODI series.. It was not genuine cricket! India Batted brilliantly in all the innings for whole 50 overs. And when England comes in, it is 20-20 cricket by D/L method! Not fair at all. And ya.. Cook is the one who was defensive. Knows his team's strength is bowling and not batting. They might have put in India to bat. But even a second string side could amass so much score (especially in cow pastures). Wonder what the Batting pros will do when they get back. England fans.. a piece of reality check for you.. Go check the stats.. In this Natwest series, The highest run getter is MSDhoni and there are 6 Indian batsmen in top 10 scoring batsmen in this series. Plus,wait till our specialist bowlers come about. P.S: My heart goes out to Ashwin who couldn't get a good spin courtesy rain! huh!

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    yhtrdhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    @Rajesh Kumar.. Utilize Ashwin? You can't expect Ashwin to turn the ball magically in wet conditions! Still he tried his level best.

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    Father: What will you bring me when you get back from England? Dhoni: A tie :p

  • YorkshirePudding on September 17, 2011, 6:14 GMT

    @Cr1cket_Lover, I couldnt understand why they left Aaron on the bench especially in a match that didnt really matter. I'm sure It will be very tough for England next month during the ODI tour of India. Bairstow looks like a class player, lets hope he keeps up the good work and gets a call up for India series.

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:06 GMT

    A clean sweep of clean sweeps... i now believe indian board and team should reduce their arrogance... specially towards pakistan.., make friends instead of enemies... stop isolating from Pakistan from IPL & Champions league and bilateral series...and stop bragging about their sponsorship of worldcricket... we can live with little less money..but no less quality and one-sided games

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    all credit goes to england....how could u lose test series 4-0....u cant even save a single test match.....india played unprofessionally nd wat kind of escape r they searching for that 7 players got injured....ohhh plz ''give me a break''.......!we being the world champs nd v could,nt even beat the ordinary england odi side...! hav us become so deprived nd unconsistant that after this world cup victory...v hav 2 wait for another 28 yrs 2 win the cup again....y cant india think of playing every tour seriously nd y cant they play well in abroad grounds....becoz the pitch is nt flat,2 b a successful cricket side they hav 2 b world class at home as well as in away matches.otherwise their is no point 2 b proud that bcci r the richest cricket board in the world...!

  • on September 17, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    Jonathan BairStow,the new sensation of English cricket have come......English cricket team is going to be the Best in the World in all format...!

  • SRV_india on September 17, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    Despite of having the players like parthiv ("baby" power hitter), Jadeja (all-"rounder"), Munaf (best fielder (Indian Mcgrath)),RP (best "bowler") and Vinay kumar (best "economic" bowler), India had lost the match.

    However, Jadeja will be given a chance for another 10 matches for his MOM in the 3rd ODI.

    I still have confidence in BCCI that the above mentioned players will be picked for the future tours.

  • Cr1cket_Lover on September 17, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    We scored a century when it did not matter any more. We seem to have a penchant for producing our finest efforts in meaningless matches, but playing like mice when the matches start to count. Well, the good news is we didn't lost 5-0, we only lost 3-0. Maybe the next time we tour England, we might insist that their B side or their C side play us and then we might have better results. Extremely disappointing series. I don't know why Aaron was not played - after all, a win in this match would have been meaningless, so why not give him an opportunity? Maybe he would have conceded less than 10 runs an over!

  • spiritwithin on September 17, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    @A.T.Abbasi...'' Indian batsmen showed that they can only bat on flat wickets''...i think u should check the performance before giving ur judgment,in the odi series india did batted well in all the 5 odi's which is missing their top 4 batsman,even in one T20 they batted well,as far as tests r concerned though india failed to cross 300 but even in their full misery they scored around 250 everytime,its the bowler who'r to be blamed not the batsman here,if a team scores 304,280,188(in 23overs),234(on a difficult pitch) and still loses the game then u cant blame the batsman but bowlers...

  • MasterSRT on September 17, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    i too got tired watching india defeating matches in row....y vinay kumar is given so many chances he is the bowler with no swing,no fast,no rythm,no bounce nothing..i think even i can play his bowling very well.....lets hope other players get well soon..

  • NS74 on September 17, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    MS has a lot to answer for keeping Varun Aaron out of the team. Vinay Kumar was smashed around in all the matches he played...Munaf also has done no better and his fielding was also nothing to speak of...Dhoni might have been successful but his ability to handle characters is suspect..Sreeshant, Varun Aaron etc...He can handle only yes men which is also the case with majority of us Indians!!!

  • ani_cric on September 17, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    FLUKE DHNOI AND INDAIN TEAM EXPOSED ..... Dhoni used to give ridiculous theory as though he has cricket brain (like Pollard case in IPL finals and Facing Muthiah in WC) ..it has proven that guy was fluke and no cricket sense ... Feild placement vey poor ....bowler rotatio very poor .. BCCI plz drop SACHIN and remove capatainship from FLUKE DHONI

  • Shafaaqat on September 17, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    Its tough to accept defeat but denial is not the solution folks, shape up!

  • arpzzz on September 17, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    How many times, does Ravindra Jadeja will let India to loose from winning positions? World T-20 in England (he scored 25 runs in 35 balls and India lost Vs Eng by 3 runs), World T-20 in WI ( he gave 38 runs in his 2 overs Vs Aus, 27 runs in 2 overs Vs WI).. so on. In the tied game of this series, he unnecessarily gave overthrow runs which put England ahead in D/L, today he went for 52 in his 5 over. He is type of Allrounder which will let his team lost from winning positions both from Bat and Ball.

  • Sohailh on September 17, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    Well Done India! Now get ready for Champions League and much hyped IPL. Indian players are well suited for these games only. They cant compete at international level. By the way, where is Zaheer, ishant, Sree Saanth, Bhajji, Yuvi, Yousuf pathan, Irfan Pathan, Gambhir, Sehwaq? I think they must be practicing hard to get fit for Champions League.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    when a thing wii b habitual, it will b must happend

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    Where is Irfan Pathan ? He is way better than Vinay Kumar...

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    All one day wins by England has been due to Lewis Duckworth system and to some extent pure luck. I don't think they are superior team in on day matches

  • robble on September 17, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    Congratulations England. I really can't see how India will beat us next month. You are all banging on about turning pitches, but do you have a spinner as good as Swann? I don't think so. Good luck, you're gonna need it!

  • Vipins on September 17, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    There is no point in finding lame excuses.. a loss is always a loss whatever reasoning we give...in the last ODI also england played really well to beat india...clearing the taunting job of maintaining the run rate of above 8 for more than 20 overs.When england start the serirs in India definetly they have the upper hand considering current dominence they have on India...we just can hope that India will play better there.. The bowling is becoming more and more exposed now....in the ODI series it was something like...even when the batters score 1000 ..they are confident enough to chase that...

  • Gupta.Ankur on September 17, 2011, 4:49 GMT

    It seams if you win the Toss in Eng.......you win the match as well......funny how rain and then subsequent wet outfield make sure that bowlers cannot grip the ball properly and that it comes nicely on the bat..

    I hoped that Eng would have offered a more level playing field for both set of fielding sides....

  • Romenevans on September 17, 2011, 4:49 GMT

    CSK fans get prepared to thrashed BY NSW now. You're "LUCKY" dhoni's time is over.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    1- indian cricket team is the best team in the world 2-they have the best batting and bowling attack 3-they loss due to injuries 4-they loss due to rain and d/l 5-they loss due to bad luck 6-they didn't lose because england played well 7-they are not home tigers,that's y they r not talking about england tour to india 8-never ever they come with excuses 9-they are not taking away the credit from english team

    i love indian cricket team..:P

  • cric.info. on September 17, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    IPL ROCKSSSSSSSSSSS... INDIA GOT A GOOD FUTURE. many sympathies for their fast bowling.. are they banned from birth in india? seeking to listen indian spokesperson dhoni " i was having the best combination of boys from india" :p

  • niksaims on September 17, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    After the end of this disatrous and forgettable series.. Again I will say we need players like Yusuf Pathan, robin uthappa in our side regardless .. Cause they can bat like thunderstorm and can destroy any bowling on their day .. I can say Yusuf or uthappa might not have been succeeded in all games but even if they can show their magic on 2-3 one day matches .. India would have won easily like one sided affairs. We don't want all 7 batters technically sounds .. We need couple of hard hitting players .. Keys hope BCCI still think in this direction. Else kohli will play to knocks of 50+ at strike rate of around 80/100 balls and india will loose again.. God save indian cricket from this politics .. I can say this is over all loss of indian cricket and our country by not keeping players like Yusuf and uthappa in playing eleven. I hope so they give them ample chance to show their calibre cause they r the ones who can play fearless cricket.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    I have been following the comments through out the test and one day series, and finding the lame excuse from all Indian supporters that it is our B team or super stars are missing. Let me tell them it is all currently available to Indian squad for the replacement of injured players, which is an alarming sign for India as I cant see the replacement of Zaheer and Bhaji, however batting department has enough talent and new comers are talented enough to replace the oldies but balling seems to be a hurdle in the way to victory.

  • Ravenous on September 17, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    Seeing the excuse...sorry comments from the Indian fans (again), it is very clear that there's no sportsmanship, no appreciation, no class...just hatred and revenge on their minds. You need to grow up a lot as this was just a game and you were outplayed by far better a team. It would be very difficult to forget this as long as you live, so better still to admit it.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Yes spinkingkk I totally agree with you….dhoni kept the same mediocre bowlers for the entire series…aaron could have tried atleast for one match…we lost all the matches any way atleast India could have had the consolation of finding a young prospect. Mediocre bowlers like praveen kumar, vinay kumar and munaf patel could never singlehandedly win you matches.

  • jmcilhinney on September 17, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    I know that it's just a small minority but I'm sick of some Indian fans whining about the weather. It's a shame the weather affected the series as much as it did but it didn't especially favour England. hira02 says that the rain saved England in this game and they could never bat 50 overs. Had this game gone the distance England needed 63 off 106 balls with 6 wickets in hand. That's a cake walk. Good batting display from both teams. Dhoni really is a fantastic limited-overs batsman. Good to see some young English blood and capable of clearing the fence. Good to see Trott looking to improve his one-day play. Bowling is a concern for both teams. English bowlers are relatively ineffective against batsmen on the attack. Finn seems improved and looks more of a stayer than Dernbach. Indian bowling was poor again. With over 1 billion people in a cricket-mad country, even the injuries are not an excuse for such a poor showing. Can't see why Varun Aaron didn't play. Couldn't have done worse.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    well done England greetings from Pakistan ! Go on and beat india in india too all the best then we will beat u in Abu dhabi later this year!

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    my deatr friend just calrify one point y dhoni didint utilized ashwin

  • Alkais on September 17, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    Now its high time to rethink on the selection made for this tour especially the bowlers like vinay kumar and RP Singh. Cant they bowl straight enough without experimenting too much. What we saw was they were trying too many things which made dhoni make field changes every now and then. Wet outfield also made the going tough. Its high time think beyond the tv viewership, like organising day night match in england where it rains very often, just for the sake that during evening more people from India will be watching the matches. In that way, StarCricket will get more money from the advertisement. This is ridiculous to hold day night matches in england during this time of the year.. And going with vinay kumar who is not good at international level is getting more chances. Selectors and team management are answerable for the kind of team which was selected for the whole one day series... Now this series should be an eye opener to make changes in the indian team.

  • landl47 on September 17, 2011, 4:25 GMT

    Although the stats don't equal the one-sided nature of the test series, it's still pretty devastating when you consider that India scored 304 from 300 balls while England scored 241 from just 194. There are a couple of comments here saying that England would not have reached 305- in what world are you guys living? England would have only needed 64 more runs from 106 balls. They score faster than that in test matches. Bairstow had a great debut and looked right at home. Bopara played well again and Finn is looking great. By next summer he's going to be awesome. Patel, unfortunately, didn't have a good game. Cook still isn't getting his bowling changes right- it's odd to see England's most economical and successful bowler, Swann, not bowl his overs out. Dernbach isn't accurate enough and when Broad comes back he has to go. For India, Rahane and Parthiv have been exposed- neither can play in front of the wicket on the off side. Finally, goodbye, Rahul, and thanks for the memories.

  • Prakmca on September 17, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    Playing Jadeja in eleven always favors Opposite team. In 4th ODI, went for 60 odd runs in 8 overs (and his unnecessary throw at WK end costs 4 runs which proved costly at the end when D/L method came into picture), and in 5th went for 50+ in 5 overs....People praised his 78 in 3rd ODI. But miracles will not happen again and again......He is not at all having potential to play international matches.

    Selectors think sensibily before you selecting such players to play for Team India.

    He cannot be or never be an match winner for India.....

  • bMike on September 17, 2011, 4:21 GMT

    It's a joke that Indian fans blame rain & make silly excuses. Bopara & Bairstow aren't England's first choice batsmen but they still batted far better than Indian first choice batsmen. England also played without their 4 first choice players & still managed to win. India couldn't win at least a single match though rain also helped India. Ex:- In the 3rd ODI, England had to get only 235 runs in 50 overs but D/L made it 218 in 43 overs .It cost England 7 overs (with 3 batting pp overs) just for 17 runs. In 4th ODI, rain comes when both England batsmen were seeing the ball well( & they were about to win the match) & England batsmen had to go off the ground in each 1-2 overs. 49th over of the match as bowled when it's pouring so England lost their last 2 wickets in last 2 bowls. That's how the match was tied. I think pathetic Indian bowling cost the series for them but I can't understand why India couldn't win at least a single match in the tour though rain also played for India

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:21 GMT

    Please.....England only won because of the conditions....they were the same conditions for both teams. India not at full strength....Morgan out, Pietersen Out. Broad injured in the last odi. Tremlett out. Can't you guys just agree that England played better....yes, they were home conditions...and yes, england will most likely face a tougher battle in India....and I look forward to watching it. But credit where credit is due to the England boys.......and lastly, if your going to communicate in English...at least make an effort with spelling. Its 'that' not 'dat', 'the' not 'da'.....'didn't' not 'dnt'...'because' not 'coz'......the list goes on...you make your posts painful to read.

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    So this is the no.1 team in the world? LOL

  • kingcobra85 on September 17, 2011, 4:11 GMT

    Ashwin had the best economy rate and he bowled just 4 overs the least among all the indian bowlers..were as Jadeja who had an econ rate of 10.25 bowls 5 overs...Mysterious ways of M.S.Dhoni :)

  • gothetaniwha on September 17, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    More misery for India coming , don,t they tour Aussie next .

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    BCCI exposed they didnt win the world cup the BOUGHT!!

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    But we are the world champions ..ahoon ahoon

  • on September 17, 2011, 4:04 GMT

    England is playing really good cricket and fully deserve the #1 ranking in tests and soon in ODIs. But nothing lasts for ever. Just ask the erstwhile #1 ranked Indians.

  • vishwanath.sreeraman on September 17, 2011, 3:45 GMT

    barstow couldnt have hoped for a softer bowling attack to make his debut..this must have been easiest attack he has faced since high school

  • m_ilind on September 17, 2011, 3:45 GMT

    This entire tour just vindicated how bad India's bowling has been, that they could not win a single match. While the batsmen did put up a fight in the one dayers, India does not have a balanced bowling attack.

  • Sidharthsavla on September 17, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    Finally its all over.....

    Now its there turn to come n play England Tour Of India...then we will show them how and what is the difference between a normal win in a game n a climatic win...

    I am waiting to see them soon now........

  • Sidharthsavla on September 17, 2011, 3:35 GMT

    Hi All,

    I wanna know one thing y u all guys blamming INDIA Team rason it y...

    Do u guys think that England could win this series...I say no coz they dnt deserve it at all....they have won only coz of CLIMATIC CONDITION's nothing else...n after nt having the KEY players we have played so well in all the matches.... Appreciate our Skipper DHONI who played a gud match against such a low TEAM.....

    Regards, Sidharth

  • Sheela on September 17, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    It is easy to comment or criticise sitting outside the boundary line. That cannot hide facts. Many a times during the current England tour Indian bowlers could not exploit favourable conditions or defend good totals in ODIS. Mere run saving fields have never restricted the other side scoring well and now captains will have devise new strategies to check the flow of runs and the obvious one is to take wickets. What iIndian team needs is wicket taking bowlers in any form of the game and mere number of regular bowloers is not at all the solution.

  • loung_singh on September 17, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    this series has shown dat a captain is as good as his team..i remember hw aftr world cup all credit was stolen by dhoni alone..indian media said dat dhoni alone wud win anything even wid a school team......ridiculous....!!! i m sad for varon aaron ..he didnt get a game in favorable english conditions...now m sure he ll debut on flat indian pitches n he ll get hit all over n he ll be forced 2 cut his pace ...d making of another medium pacer!!!!

  • 1egend on September 17, 2011, 2:59 GMT

    England has completely destroyed this Inidan team which was No. 1 in test and World champion in ODI, and lot was expected, when this tour started. It is never late, India should learn a lesson and start working on to win some matches away from Indian conditions.

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:56 GMT

    no wonder IND invited the Brits over at their place to show atleast they can bat 'N' bowl at their home grounds!

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:56 GMT

    MS Dhoni Player of the series? you kidding me...what about Ravi Bopara's performamnce....?who this award to a two series lost captain?

  • spinkingKK on September 17, 2011, 2:53 GMT

    Why no Aaron in the team?? I am searching for this answer for quite a long now. Dhoni should at least mention why he always promotes the mediocre bowlers in the side all the time. If the selectors had selected Unadkat instead, I am sure Dhoni would have given him a chance. Mediocre bowlers like Vinay Kumar, Praveen Kumar, Joginder Sharma all gets their due in this team.

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:50 GMT

    I'm highly satisfied and deeply impressed by England's performance as England played well to achieve the revised target as the direct target given by India would have been an impossible task for England to chase as the team would be under tremendous pressure to win. I liked the way the debutant Jonathan Bairstow stood tall against the Indian bowling attack till the last to lead England towards a comfortable victory. England's victory of 3-0 without loss after the completion of the series is the third one by the home team when it has achieved such a feat twice before agianst South Africa and Zimbabwe in 2008 and 2001-02 respectively.

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:43 GMT

    ohh poor indian side they played really bad cricket i dont saw the world champions its not a tour its a one sided tour ..............i remember when pakistan tour to auslralia 2 years ago they produced the same result BUT the difference between the conditions of the team is really different from the recent indian side(the world champions) oh come on u r the world champions how should u play like this.....its destructive for me the difference between the australian tour of pakistan and the england tour of india is that pakistan has a new caption and there is grouping and other problems in the team [at that time] BUT indian team its only 4 months they lifted the world cup at home ................really they played very poor cricket................!!!!!!

  • sathishkumarj on September 17, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    I think luck played a major part in the entire series.. the toss should not decide the result.. I suggest a solution to minimize the influence of toss..The captain who win the toss must bat.. He should not allowed to decide to bat or bowl first.. This solution may not completely remove luck part from toss but it may minimize it.

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    A star was born today for England. This kid has the mind set to do it in the big leagues. The way Indians fielded, giving up on their chases to the boundary, one wonders how were they ever No 1?

  • rahulcricket007 on September 17, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    @BRAVOBRAVO. INDIA SUFFERED THE SAME HUMILIATION IN AUS IN 1999-2000. AND IN NZ IN 2002 BUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THEN . THEY DEFEAT AUS IN 2001 AND REACH TO WC FINAL IN 2003 AFTER THAT DISASTROUS NZ TOUR .ALSO TO REMIND YOU AFTER INDIA THRASHED OUT OF WC IN 2007. NO ONE WAS CONSIDERING THEM A GOOD SIDE . BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER WC THEY CAME IN ENG AND WIN SERIES 1-0 AND GIVE A TOUGH FIGHT IN ODI SERIES LOST BY 3-4 .ALSO THEN THEY WON T20WC . OK .. SO YOUR POINT THAT INDIA WILL SUFFER FROM THIS DEFEAT FOR A LONG TIME IS QUESTIONABLE . THERE IS A SPECIALITY IN INDIAN TEAM THAT IS WHEN EVERYONE WRITS THEM DOWN NO ONE EXPECTS THEM TO WIN THEN THEY ALWAYS GIVE THEIR BEST PERFORMANCE .

  • on September 17, 2011, 2:17 GMT

    hahahaha congrats India for the complete disgraceful n humiliating whitewash at the hands of England! I bet WI would have won atleast one game!

  • A.T.Abbasi on September 17, 2011, 2:16 GMT

    A nightmare comes to an end. India will be more happy to get rid of English side.I think its a big big shame for the world champions on the poor performance against English side. Indian batsmen showed that they can only bat on flat wickets. If the ball is turning seaming they have no idea what to do. I think dhoni should resign at this stage.

  • CricketChat on September 17, 2011, 2:06 GMT

    Right result given the way miserable India played in this series. Eng deserved all the glory. They took the chanced handed to them unlike Ind. Just hope something good comes out from the worst tour Ind had in a long while.

  • on September 17, 2011, 1:37 GMT

    Congratulate to English team for a worth-full winning against the world cup winner and champions of test series. I think India are thrashed and cant imagine the misery.

  • puneet_usa on September 17, 2011, 1:30 GMT

    At last..This dreadful tour is over--Weather plays the spoil sport in these months--which is really irritating-Anyhow we must look at the positives from the tour--Rahane and Parthiv are leading the way in absence of sachin and sehwag--Which is great- I would also like to know how much warm the bench/seat have gotten in chilly english weather for coach or dhoni- Don't make any sense in not giving the guy a single opportunity in a dead rubber- thats really pathetic...Its time Fletcher should tell the Indian Cricket Facts rather than sugar coating words of consolation--It was truly an embarrasing performance by the current world cup holders and being an Indian Cricket Fan i am terribly upset with its performance- I would like to know Had any World Cup Winner in the past have done so terribly bad on their over seas trip soon after being crowned World Champs..The way English Team have played...They look hungry to improve, They are not willing to sit and let other team dictate-LEARN INDIA.

  • on September 17, 2011, 1:21 GMT

    Congratulations England! England has done very well and there is no doubt about it. But I dont think it going to be a misery for India. India has done better before in England and should rethink to make it next time in England. Good Luck India. I will wait for England tour of India now.

  • CricFreax on September 17, 2011, 1:17 GMT

    I feel IPL and other T20 should be played in the fast bowling and swinging favoured pitches thats how the competetion will be right. Then only the player wiill know how much they are in depth. I felt really good that these pitches helped the bowleres to get some name which was diminishing due to T20 formats

  • on September 17, 2011, 1:13 GMT

    Breathless or nerveless? Make up your mind, Andrew, you can't be frenzied and calm at the same time!

  • CricFreax on September 17, 2011, 1:12 GMT

    It really make me wonder that when Jadeja went for 33 runs in 3 overs why was he give 2 overs extra. Those 2 overs could have been given to Ashwin who did not concede any boundaries in his overs. I was coming to an impression that Dhoni has the capablity to be a great Captain. but it feels bad to see he cant give the ball to right bowler because of which the entire series is lost. In a bowling favoured England conditions Indian team could not defend 300 runs. I think the selectors and the captain should be self suspended from cricket for sometime to learn their mistakes and the bowlers should go for hardcore bowling practice to keep up with other bowlers in the world.

  • Cpt.Meanster on September 17, 2011, 1:11 GMT

    @Swombats: Totally agree with you. India's MAJOR problem is the fact they DON'T have decent bowlers who can give the team a chance. The conditions in England by far have been bowler friendly. The batting looks solid with many youngsters in the side and I won't be completely nervy about that department. If India cannot put England under pressure in helpful conditions for bowlers, then I can only imagine what will happen in the future. This reality check was long due. The BCCI cannot hide behind bureaucracy anymore. It MUST answer the questions from the public who spend millions of rupees each year to go see the national team play. The grass roots level has to be tapped for REAL talent. A complete overhaul needs to be done if India are to start winning overseas. Sure, India will continue to win and dominate at home but that's not good enough. England went to Australia and won. So a lot of homework for Fletcher and the BCCI in the coming weeks.

  • SDHM on September 17, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    D.S.A. - agreed that Bairstow has probably played himself in front of Stokes. I can't help but feel Stokes was rushed - England should've let his injury heal fully before picking him, so he can bring both his batting and bowling to the table. I'm not going to judge him on one series at the start of his career though, give him time. Finn's played his way right back into contention too - he didn't get the wickets his bowling deserved, and he was bowling seriously quickly at times. The spot I am worried about is Dernbach - for a supposed death bowling specialist, he's been going for a hell of a lot of runs. Kieswetter too needs to start scoring more runs, but I get the feeling he's one of the few England batsmen who will do better in subcontinental conditions; England haven't exactly given him pitches with which he can play with that much freedom on and on flatter wickets I'd back him to get it whacked a bit more often. The team as it is though, will not win in India, I'm pretty sure.

  • BravoBravo on September 17, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    Humiliating and winless tour for IND. This will haunt IND for decades to come. Though I have not seen much excuses from IND camp this time. Is this a record for the team that IND lost 8 matches in a row?

  • Lmaotsetung on September 17, 2011, 1:00 GMT

    I guess Bell's place in the squad is questionable or maybe he and Trott are playing for that one spot at #3 when KP return. This might also light a fire under KP's behind the way Bairstow played today. Stokes is in the team for the 4th seamer, #7 spot. England tried Chris Woakes during the ashes now it's Stokes turn to give it a go. Same with Samit...he's there for the 2nd spinner, #7 spot, if they go with 2 spinners. Kieswetter's place might also be under pressure since Bairstow can keep as well as Butler waiting in the wings. Good times...good times...if you are an England fan. I guess despite all the moaning and whining about the ECB encouraging counties to play the youngsters, they might have had it right all along.

  • Lord_Dravid on September 17, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    rain and injuries to almost the entire indian squad won england this series..eng can never bat a full 50 over..they can be happy beating india A..after the revised target 0f 241 from 34 overs and with wickets at hand for eng it became like a 20/20 game..and as for india it was a testing 50 over game at which they did well..no team should come to england and play cricket at this time of the year its very disapointing..

  • Jose on September 17, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    Change of coach didn't work for India. They could have won easily all the matches in WI, but struggled to win the series. In England, they simply lost the plot and dont know what to do... English coach ruined the whole team...

  • Viswasam on September 17, 2011, 0:52 GMT

    I think we are being a little harsh on some - RP singh for one. He was not picked for the tour initially and then they pulled him from his vacation - not sure what anyone was expecting. So this really goes back to proper man management - India don't seem to have a clue as to who their top 40 players are (top 15 batsmen, 15 bowlers and wicketkeepers). Then this has to be communicated to these guys and they have to be playing and motivated in some way to stay fit even if they are not picked for a specific tour. England seem to have got it right - they have a good squad, and appear to be managing their players with some steel. Look at the case of Samit Patel - they told him "get fit or you won't play for England - whether you have talent or not"

  • on September 17, 2011, 0:47 GMT

    It was our pathetic bowlers gave away to england. Spineless bowling bastys need some lesson on how to bowl. Even those partnership could not help a good farewell to Dravid.

    This I guess is the beginning of decline of India's dominance in World of Cricket.

    Guess this Sachin, Gambir & Ishant leaves England tour in the middle to be fit to play in Champions League. Does that makes any sense???? Should be.

  • on September 17, 2011, 0:46 GMT

    This is just great..when Indians win in their home ground ..people say stuff like : they are only home tigers..but same goes with other teams ...like ENGLAND..I mean look at rerecords in sub Continent pitches..and their recent performance in world cup. Having said that I really really think that India need to find a GOOD** fast bowler..

  • yorkshirematt on September 17, 2011, 0:38 GMT

    What will the Indians' excuse be this time? The D/L was very much in their favour yet England still chased it down with an innings to spare. And how can I not mention a smashing (literally) knock from Jonny Bairstow. We at Yorkshire knew what he was capable of, even after a dismal season with his county colleagues. This knock is no surprise. Just a shame he didn't have a few more overs and runs to get to get his 50 but there'll be plenty more opportunities. I think he'll go to India next month now.

  • lokphy on September 17, 2011, 0:33 GMT

    What to do man... It seems that India were cursed not to win any game in England this time. I also think that full 50 overs game decide the real winner. However, well played England and this heavy defeats in series were needed for the Indians as the players as well as public were becoming casual with respect to cricket. This tour showed real mirror to Indian cricket, where they stand now and where they want to stand in future. Think about international competitions rather than mixing players from here and there and playing 20 over base ball for money....

  • USAPakCricFollower on September 17, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    Where are all those Indian fans who were calling for Pakistan to be excluded from test cricket after their tour on England last year, not because of controversies but because of performance? Well, Pakistan did a LOT better with reserve players, beat Austrailia and England in tests, ODIs and T20s regularly. Pakistan's number 20 fast bowler is probably better than India's #1. I doubt if India will fare much ebtter in India, either. Dream on ...

  • criclover999 on September 17, 2011, 0:24 GMT

    seriously why as vinay kumar there varun should have been given a look.Good thing is MR patel is injured lol

  • on September 17, 2011, 0:15 GMT

    As far as I remember, ever since I started following cricket, which was more than a decade ago, this is probably the worst performance by the Indian cricket team. There were moments of hope in almost every match but we lost comprehensively in Tests, T20I. ODIs. The performances in the ODIs was a little better but we fell agonzingly short in most of the games. We also lost several key players to injuries along the way. We lost the Test ranking, ODI ranking. Injury management and bench strength especially in the bowling department should be seriously looked into.

  • gm47 on September 17, 2011, 0:11 GMT

    @5wombats. Concise and honest assessment !! Couldn't agree more :)

  • on September 17, 2011, 0:10 GMT

    england are the real champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • PaddyRasta on September 17, 2011, 0:10 GMT

    @ChuckyDoll Why did Aaron not play instead of RP Singh or Vinay Kumar? Surely it would have been Dhoni to make that call. BCCI can take most of the blame but what about Dhoni?

  • Noboundary on September 17, 2011, 0:06 GMT

    If ever there was a match where India stood a chance it as this one! In the end we lost it without much of a fight! It is time we replace Dhoni and the fabled older batsmen. Look how the new comers performed with the bat... we need new bowlers similarly. Honestly we can do without ST, Sehwag, Yuvraj, ZK, Munaf, Sreesanth, RP... only Parveen Kumar should retain his place.

  • IAS2009 on September 17, 2011, 0:01 GMT

    too much cricket has drained the indian bowlers energy, your body has a limit to abuse, cricket board around the world have to consider this, if they can't limit the cricket there should be separate teams for ODI and tests. players should have of limit on how many games they could play if they participate in each format, or some other ways to protect players. Otherwise players will choose to go for better paid 20/20 and fans will not be seeing great players in test matches.

    Most of the Indian Fast bowlers have very short life only Kapil Dev lasted long, most of quicks loos their pace with in two years there are many examples in last 10 years, i don't know what is the cause but it is very strange, good fast bowlers from other countries last for a long time. aussies, SA england and Pakistan for example.

    good luck in India in India.

  • ChuckyDoll on September 16, 2011, 23:48 GMT

    Can India lease bowlers from somewhere ? Can't defend 300..... painfully agonizing. What is disgusting is BCCI put in RP Singh, who has no future. If they had already resigned from the series, why not give young bowlers a chance. Why not develop talent. We learnt NOTHING from this tour. I guarantee you, heads will roll.

  • aracer on September 16, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    That was the 9th match in a row Cook has won the toss, not the 5th, going back to the 2nd game of the SL ODI series. I'm wondering what the record is? He's also now joint holder with Srikkanth of the highest % of tosses won for those who've captained at least 10 times at 85% (11 from 13) - the next highest being Jimmy Adams with 69%.

  • 5wombats on September 16, 2011, 23:40 GMT

    Nice easy win again today but this time with a tough revised target of 241 off just 34 overs. Would have been very easy to get the runs in a full chase though - only another 64 runs would have been required and England would have got those easily in the 16 overs with 6 wickets in hand. England were never under pressure and could have chased 400, and this with a reserve side too - no KP, Morgan, Anderson, Broad, Tremlett. Bairstow had a brilliant debut - just shows what quality bench strength England has, and he's only 21. india by contrast have a long way to go. Their worst problem = no bowlers; and this isn't going to change in a hurry. Thank God this tour is over. I don't want to be reading about "what india are going to do to England in india". England has resoundingly thrashed india in all formats. There can be no argument, no excuses; that was the most resounding reality check England have handed anyone for as long as I can remember; india played 10 won 0. cricinfo please publish

  • Rockyyyims on September 16, 2011, 23:12 GMT

    One thing for sure..India needs quality bowlers..we can't blame IPL or T 20 cricket or selectors or excessive cricket for such a debacle..we need bowlers who can take 20 wickets in tests and bowl well in trying times in limited versions of the game..That is where BCCI has a task on its hands..

  • on September 16, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    India will overshadow England performance in India.. It will be a tough time for India. They are Home Tigers.. You will see that how their pathetic bowling will also flourish in home conditions and no doubt about their Batsmen performance in home grounds...

  • Pritt32 on September 16, 2011, 23:03 GMT

    India will be relieved to return home following a very poor and one-sided England tour by their standards. The team lost the test series and one day series. What went so wrong with the team? The huge injury list is one. Sub-standard players in the team were no match for the superiority of the England team. India struggled to defend big totals in the one-day series, as they did not have quality bowlers. The captaincy of Dhoni was too defensive and filled with lame excuses. India has plenty of work to do in preparation for England tour and subsequent series against West Indies and Australia. It is imperative that their front-line bowlers Z.Khan and H.Singh are fully fit and they invest their resources in new bowlers who dry runs down and take wickets quickly. India needs to put the nation team first and cut down on needless cricket, so players are fully fit for big matches. India cannot afford to use current crop of bowlers in future tours, as they are well below the benchmark.

  • D.S.A on September 16, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    @myboyharry: Like I said, Ben Stokes is not the most talented youngster to choose from, and after today, there is no way that with all of the "management backing" that Stokes HAD, that he is still the front-runner after Bairstow's performance. Stokes hasn't proved anything and while this is only Bairstow's first match, unlike Stokes, he didn't seem flustered and his performance was a testament to that. Stokes probably isn't even 2nd in line now; they will probably use Buttler but time will tell with that.

    I think Bopara has started to prove his critics wrong. Having finished as the top-scorer for England in the ODI series (197 compared to Eng's 2nd top scorer, Cook with 169), having played only 4 innings and probably would have top-scored in the series if he had a fifth. Anyway, while he looked ungainly at times, it didn't prevent him from making significant contributions with the bat, and one can't ask for a lot more than that. Bopara, Patel and Bairstow are on the India tour now.

  • on September 16, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    Thank God the tour finally ended :)

  • on September 16, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Dravid continues to be a great batsman for India. But he is now dropping catches regularly in both Test and One Day Cricket. Dravid has retired from One Day cricket, but his fielding will be a handicap to India in Test Cricket.That is a real worry for India.

  • on September 16, 2011, 22:39 GMT

    a lot to think for india after this miserable tour..

  • puntertakeson on September 16, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    Rain and injures won England a this ODI series

  • on September 16, 2011, 22:35 GMT

    oh my god, they cant win a single game.........shame ........ don't blame injuries........u don't have bowlers.......stop playing cricket in India.......first get bowlers ...............I wonder,do we have cricket playing status now............I don't think India can beat Kenya with its super fast bowlers.

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  • on September 16, 2011, 22:35 GMT

    oh my god, they cant win a single game.........shame ........ don't blame injuries........u don't have bowlers.......stop playing cricket in India.......first get bowlers ...............I wonder,do we have cricket playing status now............I don't think India can beat Kenya with its super fast bowlers.

  • puntertakeson on September 16, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    Rain and injures won England a this ODI series

  • on September 16, 2011, 22:39 GMT

    a lot to think for india after this miserable tour..

  • on September 16, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Dravid continues to be a great batsman for India. But he is now dropping catches regularly in both Test and One Day Cricket. Dravid has retired from One Day cricket, but his fielding will be a handicap to India in Test Cricket.That is a real worry for India.

  • on September 16, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    Thank God the tour finally ended :)

  • D.S.A on September 16, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    @myboyharry: Like I said, Ben Stokes is not the most talented youngster to choose from, and after today, there is no way that with all of the "management backing" that Stokes HAD, that he is still the front-runner after Bairstow's performance. Stokes hasn't proved anything and while this is only Bairstow's first match, unlike Stokes, he didn't seem flustered and his performance was a testament to that. Stokes probably isn't even 2nd in line now; they will probably use Buttler but time will tell with that.

    I think Bopara has started to prove his critics wrong. Having finished as the top-scorer for England in the ODI series (197 compared to Eng's 2nd top scorer, Cook with 169), having played only 4 innings and probably would have top-scored in the series if he had a fifth. Anyway, while he looked ungainly at times, it didn't prevent him from making significant contributions with the bat, and one can't ask for a lot more than that. Bopara, Patel and Bairstow are on the India tour now.

  • Pritt32 on September 16, 2011, 23:03 GMT

    India will be relieved to return home following a very poor and one-sided England tour by their standards. The team lost the test series and one day series. What went so wrong with the team? The huge injury list is one. Sub-standard players in the team were no match for the superiority of the England team. India struggled to defend big totals in the one-day series, as they did not have quality bowlers. The captaincy of Dhoni was too defensive and filled with lame excuses. India has plenty of work to do in preparation for England tour and subsequent series against West Indies and Australia. It is imperative that their front-line bowlers Z.Khan and H.Singh are fully fit and they invest their resources in new bowlers who dry runs down and take wickets quickly. India needs to put the nation team first and cut down on needless cricket, so players are fully fit for big matches. India cannot afford to use current crop of bowlers in future tours, as they are well below the benchmark.

  • on September 16, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    India will overshadow England performance in India.. It will be a tough time for India. They are Home Tigers.. You will see that how their pathetic bowling will also flourish in home conditions and no doubt about their Batsmen performance in home grounds...

  • Rockyyyims on September 16, 2011, 23:12 GMT

    One thing for sure..India needs quality bowlers..we can't blame IPL or T 20 cricket or selectors or excessive cricket for such a debacle..we need bowlers who can take 20 wickets in tests and bowl well in trying times in limited versions of the game..That is where BCCI has a task on its hands..

  • 5wombats on September 16, 2011, 23:40 GMT

    Nice easy win again today but this time with a tough revised target of 241 off just 34 overs. Would have been very easy to get the runs in a full chase though - only another 64 runs would have been required and England would have got those easily in the 16 overs with 6 wickets in hand. England were never under pressure and could have chased 400, and this with a reserve side too - no KP, Morgan, Anderson, Broad, Tremlett. Bairstow had a brilliant debut - just shows what quality bench strength England has, and he's only 21. india by contrast have a long way to go. Their worst problem = no bowlers; and this isn't going to change in a hurry. Thank God this tour is over. I don't want to be reading about "what india are going to do to England in india". England has resoundingly thrashed india in all formats. There can be no argument, no excuses; that was the most resounding reality check England have handed anyone for as long as I can remember; india played 10 won 0. cricinfo please publish