India in England 2014 July 31, 2014

Ishant ruled out of fourth Test, Bhuvneshwar worry

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The five-Test series is taking its toll on India. Ishant Sharma is all set to miss his second Test, Wriddhiman Saha has gone home with an injury, but another big concern is a swelling on Bhuvneshwar Kumar's ankle.

The India team played a long match of football after their defeat in Southampton, an activity India hardly miss on their playing or training days. Bhuvneshwar and Ishant, though, watched from their balcony. However, at the moment, the team has not considered this serious enough to ask for a replacement. They are hopeful Bhuvneshwar will be available for the fourth Test, and Ishant for the fifth.

MS Dhoni agreed the work out in the first two Tests showed in Bhuvneshwar's bowling. "I think, Bhuvi seemed to be a bit tired," Dhoni said. "But he came back nicely after that first spell. But I thought he was slightly on the shorter side. He got the right length in the first two Tests, but here he was slightly short. Apart from that I am quite happy with the effort put in by fast bowlers. It was a different kind of wicket, where you have to hit the deck hard to get some purchase. That's where I found Pankaj very impressive. He is a tall guy and got fair amount of bounce and was unlucky not to get a few wickets. Overall I am happy with him."

Dhoni revealed after India's heavy defeat that Sharma will not be fit in time for the fourth Test, which begins on August 7 at Old Trafford. "Definitely he won't be fit for the next game," Dhoni said during the post-match presentation at the Ageas Bowl. "Never really had a discussion with our physio, but as of now he won't be available for the fourth Test match."

India had been forced to leave Ishant out of the third Test at the Ageas Bowl after he suffered what the team management described as a "sore leg". Ishant, who took a match-winning seven-wicket haul in the final innings of the Lord's Test, was replaced by Pankaj Singh, who went wicketless on his Test debut at Southampton.

England wrapped up a 266-run win in the first session of the fifth day, with India adding only 66 to their overnight total for the loss of their last six wickets. Moeen Ali, the offspinning allrounder, picked up a six-wicket haul. Dhoni said India didn't bat with the right approach against Moeen.

"I don't think we played good cricket over here but at the same time I think we played the fast bowlers well," Dhoni said. "Moeen I think he bowled well, but still we let him bowl well. It is very important to be positive against the spinner, especially when there is not much on offer. I think he bowled very good lines. If you keep defending, one odd ball will turn because there is considerable amount of wear and tear on the wicket."

Moeen took two wickets in the first innings as well, when Rohit Sharma and Ajinkya Rahane lost their wickets going for aggressive shots. This, Dhoni said, was a crucial phase in the match that India slipped up in.

"There were quite a few [soft dismissals], the phase where Jinks [Rahane] got out, a couple of other wickets that fell, that really had a big impact on the game. It was not only that half an hour, I think even last night, the last session really had a big impact on the game because we lost quite a few wickets, and quite a few of them were quite soft dismissals, and if we were in a good position last night, not losing those two or three wickets, definitely then you look at it in a different way."

Having gone into the first two Tests with five bowlers, India reverted to their usual strategy of six specialist batsmen and four specialist bowlers, with Stuart Binny making way for Rohit Sharma.

"The reason was we never used the fifth bowler, so we thought maybe we'll be able to use the batsmen who can bowl a bit if needed," Dhoni said, when asked about the selection call. "We just bowled that fifth bowler for eight overs or ten overs so I thought with Shikhar [Dhawan] and Vijay and Rohit being around, we can use that fifth bowler.

"It is not only that, I think once we got in with the four specialist bowlers I still think we need to get a bit more patient on wickets like these where there's not plenty to offer for the fast bowlers. We have to be consistent with our lines and lengths, and be a bit boring at times, hit the fourth stump mark consistently and ask the batsman to come and drive."

Asked whether India had the resources to bounce back from the defeat, Dhoni said they did, provided they played more positively.

"Definitely, when it comes to the talent part, yes. It will just be the mental approach, to be a bit more positive when it is in your areas, go ahead with your shot even if you get out playing that shot, back yourself because at the end of the day, what cricket really is is about the amount of runs you score and the wickets you take. You don't have to survive for long if you are scoring quickly."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on August 4, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    Let us forget all these fruitless arguments, refrain from them any further, and try to enjoy the contest between two above average test teams.

    Even if two teams are the bottom-most in calibre, if they are fairly evenly matched there will be a contest; both in performance and non-performance (like dropped catches, let-off byes, missed run-outs, butt of umpire errors et al) Rejoice the performance and have a chuckle at the goof-ups!

    The only thing I do not wish to see is non-cricketing exchanges! To both teams: Just play the game to the best of your abilities. With commitment, perseverance, and pride in what you do as a professional. That's enough for the time being.

    Both teams are going through transition, but both have many talented youngsters, and we can expect top-level contests from these two set of boys in a couple of years. Good luck to both.

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    I think we should sent Umesh Yadav to England he is very suitable for those kind of pitches My Playing eleven is 1.Gautam Gambhir, 2. Murili Vijay, 3. Pujara, 4. Kohli, 5. Rahane, 6. Naman Ojha, 7. Dhoni, 8. R.Ashvin, 9. Bhuvneshwar/Iswar, 10.Varun, 11. Ishant/ Pankaj

  • Avi56 on August 4, 2014, 5:04 GMT

    Well More than injuries India just does not have the right test team of international standards..Yes england too do not have an international standard team but they do have players on a Given day which can impact the game any day...Cook , Bell, Anderson and Broad are thos impact players..In the indian team the guys who make na impact are not in deadly form Kohli and Pujara Well Eng will win one of the matches for sure

  • on August 4, 2014, 3:54 GMT

    definitely Dhoni deserves calling off it's not the story of one match loss his pathetic captaincy and selection squandered chances from sa tour losing from winning positions or not able to make a draw..team balance s getting affected with his horrendous approach. This series should be the last opportunity for him to prove his worth as he his in overseas. .!!

  • on August 3, 2014, 18:45 GMT

    I think naman ohja should be picked into the playing 11 and kohli need to be droped for the 4th test.i knw its hard to drop kohli.But his poor performance made this to happen.

  • on August 3, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    Just one loss, and you fickle minded people have started calling for Dhoni's head. An injury and you want Ishant gone?? He's done more than what anyone else could have done. He single handedly won us the Champions Trophy in 2013,with that awesome penultimate over, and he did something similar in a matter of 7 overs, to give us a victory after several test matches. He gave it his all. For a bowler who generally bowls in 130-135 ks, to bowl 135+for 7 overs is not easy. Ishant deserves more respect and credit for that. So does Dhoni, who like Ishant said, suggested, or rather forced him bowl those bouncers. Moral : Dhoni can win a test match IF he wants to. He just wanted to draw at Ageas Bowl, and could've gotten away with playing 4 bowlers, IF Ishant had played, or if Shami had bowled even 80%of what he showed in India against WI. Only mistake was not picking Ashwin even after seeing one of driest England wickets. Plus, if Jadeja had held on to that catch, things could've been different

  • crazycricfan007 on August 3, 2014, 16:16 GMT

    Only concern is Dhoni's attitude. His team selection is pathetic and his luck is not working in tests. Drop Shikhar (if he survives seamer, will be out anyway by Moen). Drop Rohit (I dun remember when he has scored under pressure, I feel confident when Bhuvi bats than Rohit). Drop Shami (He releases pressure often from other end by giving short boundary balls). Add Gambhir, add Ashwin and try Varun (You never know). GG,MV,CP,VK,AR,MSD,RA,RJ,BK,PS,VA

  • on August 3, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    we need gambhir and ravi ashwin for two more testso we can give a good result

  • on August 3, 2014, 14:06 GMT

    RE: Gouti: National selectors can choose the touring party; not the playing XI. Anyone who directly or indirectly annoyed Dhoni will not be in any playing XI lead by Dhoni. Unless extreme circumstances or the higher authorities force his hands. In these matters, Dhoni also has elephantine memory.

    By the way, for Sanju Samson's sake, please don't project him as a replacement for Dhoni! May be, say a potential... probable ... future ... candidate...who ... may... possibly... be considered... as a successor... in the ... long run. Even that may cast a 'jinx' :-(

  • on August 3, 2014, 13:57 GMT

    You cannot drop Rohit after one game. He needs a few more games or series to get in form. Patience with Rohit is needed. We are grooming him for the future.

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    Let us forget all these fruitless arguments, refrain from them any further, and try to enjoy the contest between two above average test teams.

    Even if two teams are the bottom-most in calibre, if they are fairly evenly matched there will be a contest; both in performance and non-performance (like dropped catches, let-off byes, missed run-outs, butt of umpire errors et al) Rejoice the performance and have a chuckle at the goof-ups!

    The only thing I do not wish to see is non-cricketing exchanges! To both teams: Just play the game to the best of your abilities. With commitment, perseverance, and pride in what you do as a professional. That's enough for the time being.

    Both teams are going through transition, but both have many talented youngsters, and we can expect top-level contests from these two set of boys in a couple of years. Good luck to both.

  • on August 4, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    I think we should sent Umesh Yadav to England he is very suitable for those kind of pitches My Playing eleven is 1.Gautam Gambhir, 2. Murili Vijay, 3. Pujara, 4. Kohli, 5. Rahane, 6. Naman Ojha, 7. Dhoni, 8. R.Ashvin, 9. Bhuvneshwar/Iswar, 10.Varun, 11. Ishant/ Pankaj

  • Avi56 on August 4, 2014, 5:04 GMT

    Well More than injuries India just does not have the right test team of international standards..Yes england too do not have an international standard team but they do have players on a Given day which can impact the game any day...Cook , Bell, Anderson and Broad are thos impact players..In the indian team the guys who make na impact are not in deadly form Kohli and Pujara Well Eng will win one of the matches for sure

  • on August 4, 2014, 3:54 GMT

    definitely Dhoni deserves calling off it's not the story of one match loss his pathetic captaincy and selection squandered chances from sa tour losing from winning positions or not able to make a draw..team balance s getting affected with his horrendous approach. This series should be the last opportunity for him to prove his worth as he his in overseas. .!!

  • on August 3, 2014, 18:45 GMT

    I think naman ohja should be picked into the playing 11 and kohli need to be droped for the 4th test.i knw its hard to drop kohli.But his poor performance made this to happen.

  • on August 3, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    Just one loss, and you fickle minded people have started calling for Dhoni's head. An injury and you want Ishant gone?? He's done more than what anyone else could have done. He single handedly won us the Champions Trophy in 2013,with that awesome penultimate over, and he did something similar in a matter of 7 overs, to give us a victory after several test matches. He gave it his all. For a bowler who generally bowls in 130-135 ks, to bowl 135+for 7 overs is not easy. Ishant deserves more respect and credit for that. So does Dhoni, who like Ishant said, suggested, or rather forced him bowl those bouncers. Moral : Dhoni can win a test match IF he wants to. He just wanted to draw at Ageas Bowl, and could've gotten away with playing 4 bowlers, IF Ishant had played, or if Shami had bowled even 80%of what he showed in India against WI. Only mistake was not picking Ashwin even after seeing one of driest England wickets. Plus, if Jadeja had held on to that catch, things could've been different

  • crazycricfan007 on August 3, 2014, 16:16 GMT

    Only concern is Dhoni's attitude. His team selection is pathetic and his luck is not working in tests. Drop Shikhar (if he survives seamer, will be out anyway by Moen). Drop Rohit (I dun remember when he has scored under pressure, I feel confident when Bhuvi bats than Rohit). Drop Shami (He releases pressure often from other end by giving short boundary balls). Add Gambhir, add Ashwin and try Varun (You never know). GG,MV,CP,VK,AR,MSD,RA,RJ,BK,PS,VA

  • on August 3, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    we need gambhir and ravi ashwin for two more testso we can give a good result

  • on August 3, 2014, 14:06 GMT

    RE: Gouti: National selectors can choose the touring party; not the playing XI. Anyone who directly or indirectly annoyed Dhoni will not be in any playing XI lead by Dhoni. Unless extreme circumstances or the higher authorities force his hands. In these matters, Dhoni also has elephantine memory.

    By the way, for Sanju Samson's sake, please don't project him as a replacement for Dhoni! May be, say a potential... probable ... future ... candidate...who ... may... possibly... be considered... as a successor... in the ... long run. Even that may cast a 'jinx' :-(

  • on August 3, 2014, 13:57 GMT

    You cannot drop Rohit after one game. He needs a few more games or series to get in form. Patience with Rohit is needed. We are grooming him for the future.

  • RAVI1962 on August 3, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Dhoni needs rest as a captain wicket keeper in tests! The team is trying well. Winning in Lords was a positive. while India can find a good wicket keeper to replace Dhoni, the issue still remains a captain, however short term it is. Except of Ghambir who does not find place in the squad, there is no real captain material of note in the team that has gone to England..

  • Rajnish_aggarwal on August 3, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    If Kumar is also unfit then India must give chance to Varun Aaron. It is said that England will offer a very lively wicket so no chance for Ashwin. Naman Ojha is joining India team. He is in great form and should be inducted in the playing eleven in place of Lazy boy Rohit Sharma.

  • on August 3, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    That's a shame if Bhuvi is ruled out it just adds to the pain of Ishant being ruled out as well. I reckon India should play seven batsman,two pacers and two spinners. Shikhar Dhawan should be replaced by Gautam Gambhir as the opener. Rohit Sharma should be dropped in favour of Naman Ojha as a lower or middle order batsman. Ojha has proved his form with three consecutive hundreds against a strong attack. The bowling department needs a change too Jadeja should play as an all rounder at number 8 with Ashwin being the other spinner at 9. Bhuvi and Shami should take the pacers role. If Bhuvi is still injured then i guess Pankaj Singh is the only option for India.

  • Des_65 on August 3, 2014, 11:27 GMT

    MSD always talk about process. Well MSD, is the process under control? Obviously not because the result (output) is not. If the process is out of control, please change it. Change batsmen/bowlers after giving sufficient chances (say 10), try different combinations for some time (why change when it worked e.g. 5 bowler strategy - even with 6 batsmen, test could not be saved; so a bowler instead of a batsman would have been better because opposition scored more runs from the tired/part-time bowlers). Analyse data and react - slip/close catching is terrible with these young cricketers; so keep the correct people at the correct positions. Cook was on 15 (1st inn) when he was dropped and the rest is history. One wicket leads to another and the story would have been different (even for Pankaj Singh who went wicketless). Even McCullum let off in 30s (300+ NZ). If pitch is flat extra batsman will not make difference and if difficult only one good ball is required to get that extra batsman out

  • King900 on August 3, 2014, 10:35 GMT

    INDIA will be a much stronger Test Team without Dhoni in it. His on-field captaincy lack motivation and inspiration as it is with his field placings. Is he allowed to over-ride selections and who are the selectors ?

  • on August 3, 2014, 9:52 GMT

    I would go with 5 bowlers. Replace Shami with Aaron who are similar bowlers, and continue with Pankaj Singh who is more in the Ishant Sharma mould. I'd also replace Jadeja with Ashwin. In the batting, I think we should persist with Shikhar Dhawan for the rest of the tour and if he continues to fail, then consider other opening prospects based on Ranji performances for the next series. Gambhir does not give confidence as a long term opening option any more. I would also move Rahane up to no. 4 in the batting order and move Kohli one position lower.

  • on August 3, 2014, 9:04 GMT

    please include Gampir and Ashwin . give a rest to Kohli

  • on August 3, 2014, 7:56 GMT

    Give Ashwin a chance instead of Rohit..Ashwin will bat at no.7 or 8 with more responsibility than Rohit and surely will take wickets in II innings.Spin duo will ensure that there should be enough rest for 3 fast bowlers - Pankaj, Bhuvi and Aaron or Pandey(Rest Shami for this series). Rahane should be promoted instead of Kohli or Pujara. Gambir deserve a chance instead of Dhawan. Play positively. Grab all catches.

  • Santyment on August 3, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    Just bizarre tactics of keeping Pandey out for last 3 series, not even a single game given, only warm up game he played in NZ he took wickets more than all the other bowlers... Pankaj Singh got selected and got a game ahead of him...Dont know why but I am feeling Pandey would be a great success if given chance ....

  • cktspirit on August 3, 2014, 7:15 GMT

    If India goes down or not go up from here, the responsibility goes to Dhoni, for poor team selection. He does not even seem to understand load on different bowlers and their capabilities. The only thing apparent in team selection and his arguments is "personal preferences". Get out of the ODI/ T20 mould Dhoni, lest it will be too late. You got to have bowlers capable of taking 20 wickets and batsmen that can put up 350+ scores each time, excuses like "positive attitude" do not work.

  • yogicoolboy on August 3, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    bring aron and ashwin to the indian squad. Also bhuvi should bowl in short spells, Not in long spells as he did in the previous three test. India need a fit kumar for the remaining test as ishant is injured

  • himsez on August 3, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    Several? Accept for Ishant Sharma and B Kumar who thinks Saha will be playing. He requires dhoni to get injured which never happens. Ojha and all come for vacations

  • on August 3, 2014, 6:24 GMT

    They should be more worried about the fact that even with those two healthy, they are unlikely to get 20 wickets.

    And the batting is really fragile. Kohli is feeling the pressure, Pujara is unsure, Dhawan is exposed.

    Rahane and Vijay have performed admirably.

    Not enough. Best to go blaming the Anderson verdict.

  • Vkarthik on August 3, 2014, 6:12 GMT

    Sprashant the whole post match interview was a weird interview. He finished with "cricket is all about wickets and runs" Thank you captain Phillips for the breaking news.

  • Rajasthanroyalsfan on August 3, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    Regarding not dropping shami i understand that we should give players a fair run once they make it to international cricket but we should groom the right players first. I can not see bowlers like shami and bhuvi becoming world class fast bowlers because they need assistance from the pitch, look at all the modern great fast bowlers they all bowl above 140. Even anderson and broad clocked 144 at will when needed. I know pace is not everything but it is needed to be a complete fast bowler, for tests India should groom bowlers like aaron, umesh etc and give them a long run.

  • on August 3, 2014, 5:54 GMT

    what I think the main reasons behind india's defeat in southhampton is 1- our slip fielding. 2- dhoni does'nt make proper use of jadeja. 3- giveing wickets to moeen ali. these are the main reasons that's why we loasse..

  • on August 3, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    dhoni should be dropped for these final two test matches. sanju Samson should be brought in and be made Indian captain as he has a huge prospect.

  • sprashanth14 on August 3, 2014, 5:38 GMT

    "You don't have to survive for long if you are scoring quickly." This is one of the weirdest statement from a captain of a test side.... Agreed, scoring runs is important in any format..but the beauty of test cricket lies in playing the waiting game, winning sessions, being mentally strong and not just bundle out in a pack and more importantly these qualities are expected from a captain first, in spite of his own weaknesses...Even the greatest captains the game has seen had weaknesses and short comings, but their attitude meant they didn't go down without a fight....Not to take anything away from him(Dhoni)..but these statements reflect that may be he is simply not a suitable material for test cricket....

  • Vkarthik on August 3, 2014, 5:38 GMT

    As long as dhoni at the helm India will suffer with these problems. Possibly the worst captain in history when it comes to rotating fast bowlers. He bowled everyone to ground in the first 2 itself without even using 5th bowling option properly. He said he didn't use 5th bowler. They add 198 run partnership for last wicket and he says he didn't need 5th bowler. Dhoni wanted to get rid of Binny . Other bowlers paid the price . He completely destroyed our fast bowling unit singlehandedly. To add insult. To injury he totally removed 5th bowling option in 3rd test.

  • prakash_mishra on August 3, 2014, 4:04 GMT

    Now since Naman Ojha is in the squad, Please consider following XI at Old Trafford: Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, Ojha, Dhoni, Binny, Ashwin, B.Kumar, Aaron. I wish Ojha could replace Dhoni, but that is not going to happen. Rahane should bat before Kohli as he is in better form and some runs on the board will give Kohli some confidence. Kohli needs to score big if India is to have any chance. Binny will give that cushion in batting and he needs to be given more overs. Shami is useless and so is Jadeja and Dhawan. Pankaj does not have pace and swing suitable for the highest level. It is a sad story and everyone feels for him, but one cannot play with sympathy votes. If Binny is not needed, give Pankaj one more chance. I personally feel India should invest on Binny for sometime. If he grooms into an useful all-rounder, it will be a huge gap fulfilled. Dhoni should resign from tests after this series. Pujara, Kohli or Rahane should lead the test side.

  • on August 3, 2014, 3:32 GMT

    Call mohot sharma .,. He will be seadly on these picthes.. India must include him in the xi

  • here2rock on August 3, 2014, 3:04 GMT

    Get a captain who will make use of the fifth bowler, Dhoni is terrible tactically and picking the right selections. Is he good enough to be in the test side? A couple of better replacements can do wonder for India in tests overseas. The question is are Indian selectors brave enough?

  • on August 3, 2014, 1:00 GMT

    Malady Days (With apologies to Malgudy Days)

    1: Two of India's wicket taking bowlers are both pitch dependent bowlers: Bhuvi & Ashwin. If the conditions do not favour, both go for plenty, and mostly end up wicket-less.

    2: Our fast bowlers are not fast enough to trouble batsmen brought up on a steady diet of good fast bowling

    3: Our wicket keeper-batsman is not good enough for Tests. But, he will be in the playing XI, being its captain.

    4: Our catching & stopping behind the wicket (by the entire slip cordon, including W-K) is atrocious. The major difference between the two teams was in that area: England performed well and took most of the chances and India did extremely badly dropping dolly catches, not lunging forward and letting the ball go for byes.

    5: Batting was topsy turvy. Kohli's form is missing & Pujara is below par. The only consistent performer was Rahane & Monk, till he suffered relapses.

    6: We are not good in reading pitches, and choosing the right playing XI.

  • baskar_guha on August 3, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    I suspect India will bring Ashwin for Rohit and Pandey for Bhuvi if he is injured.

  • on August 2, 2014, 21:58 GMT

    We should keep Ashwin in the playing 11. Since he is a trick bowler and can perform well even the pitch is not supportive for spinners, seeing his past records, he has always taken wickets with planned bowling no matter what pitch is producing. I m keepin my fingers croosed and hoping that Dhoni also feels the same. @Ashwin... U cn bring the cup to India

  • on August 2, 2014, 21:46 GMT

    Gautam Gambhir if scores in the next two tests, should take over the test captaincy!

  • toucheandsuch on August 2, 2014, 21:27 GMT

    Assuming Ishant & Bhuvi are not fit and Shami is dropped for non-performance, there are 2 situations:

    Seaming wicket - Aaron for Shami, Pandey for Bhuvi & Pankaj with Ashwin replacing Jadeja. Consider Binny instead of Rohit - just in case the wicket is really green, Binny can do a Mirpur again

    Pitch like at the Aeges Bowl - Aaron for Shami, Pankaj, Ashwin for Bhuvi, Jadeja stays and Binny in place of Rohit

    Gambhir must replace Dhawan. Pujara needs to be told that he should play his shots and control the innings at # 3. Kohli needs to relax his grip on the bottom hand. Dhoni is clearly not a # 6 outside India and I would push Ashwin up instead. Before I forget, Ashwin needs to be told that he does not need to try 6 different balls each over!!

    Finally, there is a good reason why the best slip catchers in history were not great outfielders (like Mark Taylor, Dravid, Kallis). I want to see Vijay, Ashwin and Rahane in the slips not "grabbers" like Dhawan, Jadeja etc.

  • vgaur on August 2, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    Same story as last time, Bhuvi & Ishant werent suppose to last 5 tests anyways. For Bhuvi the right backup is Sandeep Sharma (not sure why he is being ignored, he is better than Bhuvi at times). Umesh Yadav needs to be there as well.

  • on August 2, 2014, 20:15 GMT

    Good to see India won atleast one test in this series . Team performed far better than the 2011 team. When we have so called Legends we did not even won a single test match in England. This team can do well gradually and bring the fame back.

  • on August 2, 2014, 19:08 GMT

    India needs the players like Rahul Dravid, Lakshman and Tendulkar. But as they can't come back so the selectors should think about Gambhir and Yuwraj. Rina may also replace Jadeja. A question mark lies on the selection of Ashwin also. Because India needs to attack England with spin guns.

  • Dhutugemunu on August 2, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    Dhoni was never a reasonable wicketkeeper-batsmen at test level. He is a wicket keeper who can score some runs. Therefore he should play as a conventional wicketkeeper in the team (#7). If so Ind needs 6 batters or 5 batters + 1 batting allrounder. This Indian squad got only 7 batters. Dhawan, Pujara, Kohli and Rohit are not doing good. But let's try best available 5, Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane. Both Jadeja and Binny are not batting allrounders in test level. But to his credentials in ODIs, Jadeja should be the selection. Next is 4 bowlers. Ashwin as he can bat a bit. 3 pacers should be Aaron, Bhuwaneshar and Ishant. Since Ishant and Buwaneshar are having injuries, 2 in the squad should get fill those 2 places. Does not matter who. Shammi and Pankaj favorites.

  • on August 2, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    I think India must cal back umesh yadav as a back up bowler. he bowled brilliantly in Australian conditions in India A tour. to avoid becoming bowlerless due to injury you can give a cal yadav as back up & specialist. for back up of saha cal rayadu.

  • Rajasthanroyalsfan on August 2, 2014, 16:52 GMT

    Indian fast bowling is below-par. People praising bhuvi will soon realize he is no different then irfan or praveen because at a mediocre pace of 130 you need help from the pitch, if there is none they will always be smacked. Indian team never picks horses for courses and he will be smacked in Australia where you need to hit the deck and lateral movement is minimal. Check this page and our new superstar will be our new villain. We need to think team over individual which will never happen in India or at least next 20 years, i have lost hope to see a world conquering Indian test side. People running in at 128 kmph and breaking down after 2 test ?? not understandable and desirable.

  • prasanth1 on August 2, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    It will not be a bad idea to give Rohit Sharma another change to prove his mettle. He is a stylish batsman and is capable of making good contribution in the middle order. Therefore it is better to retain the same squad that played the previous test. Of course Ishwar Pandey may be given a chance if B. Kumar gets ruled out due to injury.

  • HDG1978 on August 2, 2014, 16:37 GMT

    I completely agree with u Nagra Gurjinder. I have voiced this sentiment may times over on this forum. Thankfully there are others who now feel the same. Dhoni must go or must be made to step down by the BCCI though only after the current series is over as it is inappropriate to change the captain midway through such a long series. This is India's first 5-Test series in England since 1959 when India ended up having 4 different captains in 5 Tests with disastrous results.

  • on August 2, 2014, 16:19 GMT

    Seriously , some indian players need a small break.India should not hesitate to rotate some good players like pujara may be for one match & try kohli at 3. India has to bring some change to squad and tactics.They have to move on and take some brave dicisions to win the series.

  • on August 2, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    Why not Team and line should be 1 Vijay, 2 Rahane, 3 Pujara, 4 Dhawan, 5 Kohli, 6 Dhoni, 7 Ashwin, 8 Jadeja, 9 Bhuvi (if injured Varon), 10 Shammi, 11 Pankaj. I think its a brilliant balance of batting and bowling. Let Real players like Dhawan and kohli (not over Influenced player like Rohit) play their natural game. Don't think of Rohit for any more tests he is a good option for T20 only.

  • franciscan_educated on August 2, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    Martin Crowe has written a wonderful article on the selection woes for India and I commend him for so very articulately wording the fact that this Indian unit lacks commitment and basks in the glory of their past successes. Mr.MSD, your bowlers are tired not only because of the workload they have had to carryout but also because your fielders have not supported them. That is completely demoralizing for any bowler. They have also had to do bulk of your batting as well. When an opportunity presents itself, you grab them by their horns. That is what separated the boys from the men. The runout of Vijay is an example. From the time of Kumble, Harbhajan and the 3 pillars of Indian Batting, the Indian team does not present itself as a winning unit. Many chances have been squandered - most recently the walloping from Brandon McCullum- whose catch was dropped when he was in single digit score. Breeding spinners is critical part of the revamping process. To me Mr Chahal and Patel seem prospects.

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:43 GMT

    Dhoni is playing with a second string wicket-keeper-batsman for the test level!

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:41 GMT

    @Debasish_Dhar on (August 2, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

    Re: Your appropriate comment on the inappropriate switch between the pitch & the bench. What is Dhoni doing here as wicket-keeper-batsman, when bright young boys like Samson are not even sitting on the bench and cast away to far of lands? :-). Oh, yes; he's captain, no? Sorry for the momentary lapse. :-)

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:33 GMT

    im huge fan of dhoni...........bt I must accept tht his time has passed as test player and captain..........so dhoni plz quit tests. .....and focus on odi and t20s u r still best there among the rest

  • B.R.K.R on August 2, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    time for rotation to keep the bowlers and batsmen fit for the whole length of the series .. my team for the next match - 1. vijay 2. gambhir 3. pujara 4. kohli 5. rahane 6. rohit 7. dhoni 8. ashwin 9. pankaj 10. aaron 11. pandey .. keep a core of 5 players and others 2 matches each

  • on August 2, 2014, 14:33 GMT

    I think India should go with Aaron,Pankaj ,Pandey. Bhuvi & Shami are too tired to utilize pace & bounce from Old Trafford pitch which will be very much similar to one in Southampton.India need fresh legs which can run and create something from the pitch rather than just the casual walk.Also,i will prefer R. Ashwin over Rohit as Ashwin & Jadeja will be very useful in taking wickets as well as keeping check on runs.

    My Final 11 for 4th Test-Gambhir,Vijay,Pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Dhoni,Ashwin,Jadeja,Aaaron,Pandey and Pankaj.

  • india_boy33 on August 2, 2014, 14:28 GMT

    1)Vijay 2)Gambhir 3)Pujara 4)Kohli 5)Rahane 6)Dhoni 7)Ashwin 8)Bhuvi 9)Shami/Ishant(If he is fit) 10)Aaron 11)Pankaj. This is a right team combination for the next 2 tests and for the down under series in Nov.

  • india_boy33 on August 2, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    So many comments from the fans for the combination of players in the team for next 2 tests. Yes Indian team needs a change but it's not right to step down Dhoni from captaincy or give rest to Pujara or Kohli in the middle of the series. It's not easy for a newcomer to accumulate with the conditions so quickly. After seeing the Indian team's performance i am looking further for the Aus tour in Nov. By this kind of bowling attack what we are thinking that we got out Warner, Clarke, Smith, Rogers, Haddin 2 times in a test? Or have our batsmen has technique to play on fast & bouncy pitches of Aus & to face Johnson & co? Because when a bouncer of 155ks hits the chin of a batsman then it's not easy for a batsman to face that bowler in the series.

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    I think dhoni is not a good captain in overseas condition despite of his taking punkaj singh instead of ishwor pandey and he must have chosen ashwin instead of jadeja, ashwin can bat too

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    it's high time stop experimentation with bowlers like pankaj ..just india go with ishwar pandey for pankaj , ashwin for jadeja, Aaron for rohit since no yadav available..

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    I hope pankaj Singh shouldn't be given any chance in this series, it is bad luck missed two wickets yes but he should have created more opportunities after that he seldom troubled batsmen except few. .only with bowling one or two magic deliveries like ishant sharma doesn't work in test matches. .let him play more a tour matches. .players of ishwar pandey (bowled match winning 7 for in sa a tour match previous year , had bowled in good rhythm and took wickets in practice match) , umesh yadav ( bowled well in aus ) , praveen kumar * previous England tour Indian top bowler and he is still in good form ) , these all bowlers had been missed out how come pankaj Singh enter into playing xi just on domestic performances..He should play more overseas a tour matches that will do good in further....

  • on August 2, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    Who in right mind will have bowlers like Aaron, Pankaj n Panday all with no wickets at Test level or any experience. Shami is the only one wiith experience n if Sharma out get Aaron in n leave Pankaj n Panday out. Get Ashwin in as second spinner n Ghambhir to open with Vijay

  • Debasish_Dhar on August 2, 2014, 13:19 GMT

    It is painful to see that Dhoni is playing with a second String team and losing match and his most experienced opener -Gautam Gambhir, best spinner - R Ashwin and fastest bowler- Varun Aron are all sitting out !!!! This defies all logic. Dhoni should play with M Vijay, Gautam Gambhir, C Pujara, V Kohli, A Rahane, Rohit Sharma, R Ashwin, B Kumar, Md Shami and Varun Aron in the 4th test. Rohit Sharma is too talented player to be dropped for just one bad performance. But this guy - Shikhar Dhawan has been given so many chances !!! How long Dhoni should keep him in the team........

  • prij on August 2, 2014, 13:11 GMT

    In long series like this injuries are part of the game. this is young indian side and they never have been in such a long series.clearly i am no expert but what india could do with the limited resources is concentrate on their batting which clearly is better compare to their bowling and improve their slip fielding which was the main reason for their lose in last game they can play well they have shown it bits and pieces but still they have to find their consistency. almost same is true about the performance of england team. good luck to both the teams for future games. (please publish..)

  • Karsugu on August 2, 2014, 12:55 GMT

    My pick 11 is Gambhir, Rohit, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Binny, Ashwin, Aaron, Pandey and Pankaj.

  • on August 2, 2014, 12:18 GMT

    U r right . Y is gambhir not included

  • Prats6 on August 2, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    SOS to Zaheer Khan Please. Get him back. We need someone who can take wickets.

  • on August 2, 2014, 11:29 GMT

    India squad must be gambhir, vijay, rahane(at one down), pujara, kohli, naman ojha( brought in to the side after impressive perfprmance in australia for india A, attacking batsman, positive player and india needs positivity), dhoni, jadeja, bhuvneshwar, ishwar pandey and pankaj singh.

  • gowtham312 on August 2, 2014, 11:28 GMT

    Dhoni should step down as captain in test because his defensive field setting is not going to help India winning a test matches in abroad...to win matches in abroad we need a captain with attacking mindset....it can be gambhir or kohli

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 2, 2014, 11:16 GMT

    Agree with Raja Chandra (post on August 2, 2014, 10:43 GMT); surely Praveen Kumar is a like-for-like replacement for Bhuvneshwar, and that style of bowling should work really well in the remaining two games if there's rain/moisture around. Pankaj looks impressive and his luck wont stay bad all the time, so I'd stick with him, but bring in a proper spinner like Ashwin regardless of poor oversees average. If Ali can do it...

    Reckon it's high time Gambhir got a game too, at the mild expense of one of the struggling top-order batsmen.

  • on August 2, 2014, 11:07 GMT

    playing XI should be like vijay, ghambir, pujara, rahane, kohli, Dhoni, ashwin, jadeja,bhuvi, varun, ishwar pandey...team for the 4th test match.and kohli must be at no.3 spot.

  • on August 2, 2014, 10:43 GMT

    What is the point in getting Ojha when even Gambhir is still warming the bench ? It is better to get Praveen Kumar who like Bhuvan Kumar will succeed in England.

  • on August 2, 2014, 10:16 GMT

    Can dhoni bring in Aaron instead of shami and panday if Bhuvi is injured and also bring in as win inst of jadeja and ohja for wk duties

  • on August 2, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    If Bhuvi is injured n not available for the next match, the bring in ISHWAR in place of Bhuvi, Ashwin in place of Jadeja, Aaron for Pankaj.

  • on August 2, 2014, 9:55 GMT

    four fast bowlers and a spinner is must in Indian team overseas , but in sub continent two fast bowlers one swinger and one with good length , remaining 3 spinners. .This will be the winning combination for team India.. We can easily see England with 4+1 bowling combination ..same India can adopt with more persistency can succeed in overseas ..batsmen can spring in confidence if bowlers bowling well, reduces mental stubborn to our bowlers too with 4+1 combination easily can share loads , can focus more on their strengths.. If it is more spinning track , vijay and dhawan can support ashwin as both are right arm offspinners based on the circumstances and conditions..

  • mahi_b on August 2, 2014, 9:30 GMT

    It is better to include binny in place of Rohit Sharma or Bhuvneshwar (if he his not fit). Rohit Sarma is didn't play well in last test. Binny batted well in First test. But he didn't get more overs to bowl.

    My XI for Next Test: Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit, Binny, Dhoni, Jadeja/Ashwin, Shami, Ishwar/Aron

  • on August 2, 2014, 9:26 GMT

    very happy to find India a win quadrangular series and proved their dominancy in aus out of 4 teams..consecutive 6 wins..grt feat..India can bring in mohit sharma, dhawal kulkarni, akshar patel, kedar jadav good attacking player, rayudu, samson, all rounder in rishi dhawan these are good finds from this series..can try them and give more opportunities further in England and keeping in mind of the coming world cup along with current crop of Indian senior team players including umesh yadav, praveen kumar, irfan , sandeep sharma , can definitely aim and defend their world cup title. .management this ktank should work steadily for changes. .hope for best ..Indian cricket team going in a good direction with necessary changes and inclusions required..cheers..

  • on August 2, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    also using varun hitting the deck hard bowler with good length can bring more opportunities. .ashwin using him against left hand batsmen with more flights and consistent off spin will do better than jadeja. .so India players understanding their decisive roles and with more focus can definitely make a huge difference in last two tests. .even toss plays a huge role as we seen in ashes both in England and aus, then series btw sa and aus in sa even team like sa lost to aus batting second in tests..but India far better than England should realise their strengths and if they play to their potentials India definitely can bring 3-1 historical win this series. .

  • IndiaNumeroUno on August 2, 2014, 8:13 GMT

    Including Gambhir will be a huge mistake... time to look forward, not back! Where are the Vijay Zol's, KL Rahul's, Baba Aparajith's and Sanju Sampson's?

  • on August 2, 2014, 8:07 GMT

    playing XI should be like vijay, dhawan, pujara, rahane, kohli, Dhoni, ashwin, bhuvi, varun, shami, ishwar pandey. ..ideal team looks for remaining 2 tests. .suitable roles shared for the players as vijay, dhawan should see off new ball and play only loose deliveries as they did in second innings third test batted well for 11 overs. .good opening partnership is must , otherwise pujara should come in stabilise ...Top 3 players role so very high for good start..then rahane ahead of kohli can increase run rate and scoring start building up score..then Dhoni and ashwin can play some attacking shots with suitable defense..bowlers front line be bhuvi who can bowl swing and good lengths use him for 5-6 overs of short but effective spells..shami definitely should focus on good lengths and reverse swinging of old balls, ishwar pandey had bowled well in practice matches picking up the wickets more wickets, he can far better bouncer and outswingers inswingers than out of sort ishanth. .

  • balaji28 on August 2, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    For all of them who support gambhir's inclusion is laughable.He had his flop show at ranji trophy and I don't know how he got selected in the squad and his flop show continued till irani trophy and he got dismissed in the same manner in all the matches. Gauti has the weakness to play off stump line,the same problem dhawan,rohit,virat and dhoni suffers. So the person who supports gauti's inclusion should watch domestic cricket properly.Don't come to a conclusion by watching ipl. So I want Dhoni to retire from international test cricket after the last 2 tests in the england series even if india wins the series.Also rohit,gauti,virat,rohit and dhawan needs to be dropped from the squad for windies series because indian tracks will be flat and all the players I have mentioned above will score centuries and will continue their flop show in australia. Better select fresh faces irrespective of age and how he plays quality cricket. Pujara or vijay needs to lead the test team for windies series.

  • sreehk on August 2, 2014, 7:39 GMT

    India XI for 4th Test: Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Kholi, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shammi, Pankaj, Aron

    Though I would have loved to make two more changes. Drop Dhoni and Jadeja duo and bring Saha and Pragya Ojha who are much better keeper and left arm spinner. I hope Gambhir does not play his tiki taka style of batting by tapping to third man and gully regions, he gets out in this fashion very very often.

  • balaji28 on August 2, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    Well done Mr.M.S DHONI you can given a price for fielding four bowlers in all the 3 matches and finally bhuvi and ishant got injured.If Dhoni sticks with this theory and makes our bowlers bowl 40 or more overs regularly we will see our entire bowling lineup injured. My sincere request to dhoni is go with 5 bowlers in the next match.Send back bhuvi and ishant home.Don't play on bowlers career.Bring umesh yadav and Jasprit Bumrah as backup.I want shami to be rested too in order to avoid injury. My bowling line up for next test is ashwin,jaddu,ishwar chand pandey,varun aaron and pankaj singh. This is the answer for all of them who likes 4 bowler concept and pros and cons of having 4 bowler. 5 bowler concept is always a safe method to avoid injuries.

  • AbhinavKunnu on August 2, 2014, 7:34 GMT

    Team XI should be like this given the resources India have: Vijay, Pujara, Rahane, Gambhir, Kohli, Ashwin, Dhoni, Kumar, Jadeja, Aron, Pankaj.However, I do agree that even this combination will find it difficult to save the test. None of the bowlers (with Kumar already jaded) look like picking up wicket and the fact that England's batting order runs upto No.10.Considering batsmen I think top3 has potential to come good, not sure about the rest. Ojha has been flown to England for what? carrying drinks I suppose. Instead Yadav/Mohit should have gone there to strengthen the bowling attack knowing Ishant wont be a part of the series. It seems while practicing batsmen are not playing spin at all either they are leaving the balls or ducking or swaying to fast bowlers. Had Ashwin bowled lengthy spells in nets to batters they not have been bamboozled by Moeen.Overall situation ooks bleak for India as all English players now looking good and in good nick.Still finding light at end of tunnel eh

  • Johnny_129 on August 2, 2014, 6:51 GMT

    Absolute agree with نجیب توتاخیل on (August 2, 2014, 5:45 GMT) - Dhoni inherited a GREAT set of players, inclusive of Tendulkar, Dravid, Sehwag, Laxman, Zak, Gambhir & Bhajji when they were all playing well. And all those players were freed of captaincy worries. Dhoni led well in limited overs cricket and had his players support. However, his Test record as captain and player has fallen by the way side. His selection favouritism is laughable - absolutely loves Ishant & Jadeja. If other players had this type of support from the captain, they would perform much better!! Rohit's selection ahead of Ashwin and his performance was a joke. Rahane, Pujara & Bhuvi are India's 3 best Test players.

  • on August 2, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    Despite the series being 1-1, I think Team ind should go in for a proper experiment for the next match. Ideally with Dhawan being the weak link at the top of the order, it might be good to go with Gambhir. Kohli has been a bit cold, and the best way to channel his skills is to drop him, which history shows will make him all the more determined to regain his form. Rohit has only played one test in this series, so i think he should play one more game or the alternative is to play Ojha as a specialist batsman because of the form he is in and he has been playing in the bouncy tracks of Australia prior to coming here. The freed up slot of kohli slot should be used to bring in ashwin.As for the fast bowlers,with Kumar & ishant also injured, Shami struggling i think its time to bring in Pandey and Aaron, in addition for another chance for Pankaj Singh. Pankaj did bowl well upfront but a couple of good chances went down. A fresh bowling change will help the tired bowling unit.

  • on August 2, 2014, 5:45 GMT

    Doni has achieve lots for India, but instead of that Doni has Problems with some players like Gamhir. that Doni will never play him. As he must come to the side. and (Dhawan, Kohli and Rohit) are the Players who should be repalced but Doni is highlighting the dismissal of Rehane the man who Bat brilliantly during the series, not talking about failing of Dhawan, Kohli and his self.

    Even I am worry that he drop Rehane for next tests.

  • SUNDHUR on August 2, 2014, 5:32 GMT

    Surprised why Gambhir is not in the playing 11. There is none who is as good and experienced in the entire team. Remove the out of form Shikar Dawan to bring Gambhir in. Ashwin should be the second replacement to strengthen the bowling dept and tail end batting. India cannot hope to face Anderson and the rest of England's attach without such sensible changes.

  • nikkam on August 2, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Gambhir had a very ordinary series last when he visited England and at that time he was supposedly at his peak. Hence including him now will be bit if a gamble. Indian batting is not a big problem with the best possible 5 finding their feet at the international level. What we have to understand is that even the older generation did not have much resolve while chasing while the younger generation is still not accustomed to such situations. All 5 batsmen can be backed in future as technically they seem OK but for flaws which can be ironed out. Coming to the bowling, i think jadeja might be getting jaded as the English batsmen get more comfortable with his bowling. swapping him for ashwin is straightforward. considering buvi injury it is advisable to replace with pandey. the team would be: vijay dhawan pujara kohli rahane rohit MSD ashwin pandey pankaj shami.rotation of bowlers is important to keep them fit.

  • JustIPL on August 2, 2014, 4:36 GMT

    Naman should be played in place of kohli. It will put pressure on kohli to mend his ways. He might be under pressure to return the favor like Niroshan dickwella did for SL. With reference to gambhir we are again jumping to conclusions based on his IPL runs. He was not able to score during uae leg of IPL as much I remember. Rohit has to open with Murli. Naman one down then pujara.Aswin on fifth, dhoni on six, jadeja on seven, then four quick bowlers.

  • on August 2, 2014, 4:19 GMT

    gambhir vijay pujara kohli rahane dhoni binny ashwin aaron shami pandey include aaron only if bhuvi is not fit

  • on August 2, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    Strategically wrong to accept a 5 test series. The current team is not trained for it, we over bowled bhuvi and he is in trouble.. For test match fitness is the top priority.

  • on August 2, 2014, 3:16 GMT

    gambhir (c), naman ojha in place for dhoni, ashwin in place for jadeja

  • entryholedia on August 2, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Someone said 5 tests is too long but in the earlier days we had 5 test series regularly and of course it was done taking into consideration the guest teams status in the world cricket . If the teams were average as was India , New Zealand ,Pakistan & West Indies ( in their slump periods 1967-73) England & Australia who were the top teams chose between 3 & 5 test series . However in India we always had 5 test series at least with English , West Indies in the days when limited 50 over cricket and 20 over sojourns had not made its forays into Indian territory . Players had the resilience to last 5 tests which the extreme rigors of meaningless 50 over & more 20 over cricket has sapped the complete energy from our players of the present day . How will this team save the remaining two tests is beyond comprehension & above all it will be difficult to endure the TV viewing with England always dominating and India surrendering meekly

  • on August 2, 2014, 2:53 GMT

    Knowing Dhoni I am very sure he wont play Ashwin in the next game.Everyone know we need Ashwins allround skills but Dhoni's bizare tactics wont let him in.Even a part time off spinner gets 6 wickets but with 6 left hand batsmen in England Dhoni opts not to play Ashwin.He would have surely picked up 2-3 wickets if he played instead of pankaj singh last match....

  • landl47 on August 2, 2014, 2:40 GMT

    The problem for India is that if they could only take 11 wickets in the 3rd test, how will they get 20 in the 4th test if their best bowler (Bhuvi) is missing?

    Ashwin played against England in India and had a bowling average of over 50. That was on pitches that took spin, as Swann and Panesar showed by bowling England to victory. Hard to see him taking a lot of wickets on English pitches.

    Aaron might be faster than the other Indian bowlers, but he's hardly Mitch Johnson. In his only test he took 3 wickets @43 apiece and his FC average is 33. There's a reason Ishant, Bhuvi, Shami and Pankaj were preferred to him- they're better than he is.

    It's cricket, so anything can happen, but it's going to be very hard work for India to win without Ishant and Bhuvi in the side.

  • on August 2, 2014, 2:33 GMT

    It's no surprise that so many people want to see Ohja playing here, based on his current performance, which has been truly unbelievable. But there's a slight issue. Australian tracks aren't as seamer friendly as those in England. In Australia, it's more like SA, where, you get purchase eh when you hit the deck hard, bowl at 140+ks. England pitches have offered movement to Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who at best, would bowl 135-138ks. My point being, Ohja's performance on fast tracks is good, but I'm not sure he'll be able to repeat it on seamer friendly conditions, where the movement in the air, off the pitch is greater. I think Ohja is a brilliant batsman, and currently in form too, so Dhoni could take him in the team, instead of Rohit, but very few attacking players have succeeded in English conditions, KP being the best, since he knew the conditions. Only time will tell if Naman Ohja can do what Sehwag couldn't.

  • DCricket on August 2, 2014, 2:09 GMT

    anyone hoping that Gambhir will be in for rest of the series forget about it. until dhoni is the captain gambhir has not place in the team

  • ren1 on August 2, 2014, 1:04 GMT

    For next match 1. GAMBHIR 2. Vijay 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Rahane 6. Dhoni 7. Ashwin 8. Bhuvi 9. Aaron 10. Pankaj 11. Panday/ shami/ Ishant Dhoni please call Yadav if u can play 5 bowlers Ashwin, Bhuvi, Yadav, Aaron, Pankaj India will win. If Bhuvi not available replace Panday

  • Dhutugemunu on August 1, 2014, 23:27 GMT

    Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara*, Kohli*, Rahane, Rohit*, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Aaron#, Pankaj#.

    * No replacement even though they are failed so far. # Since Ishant and Bhuvaneshar are injured, Binny and Shami have no clue, should use these two. Aaron for phase. Punkaj for bounce.

  • on August 1, 2014, 22:10 GMT

    did he ask all his bowlers if they are 100pc fit before the match?? if bhuvi wasn't 100pc why not pick other bowlers... India need to manage fast bowlers well. .. there should always bw rotation for long series like this l... it's common sense.. otherwise burn outs will happen

  • on August 1, 2014, 22:06 GMT

    Dhoni captains the same way in tests as he does in ODIs.... he must be the only test captain who would pick a bowler just for containing runs.. he says that bowlers are not able to take 10 wickets but doesn't pick attacking bowlers..

  • bestofluckindia on August 1, 2014, 21:34 GMT

    If Ishant and Bhuvi can come back 100% fit & strong for 5th test That's what they should do. Weather forecast for 4th test in Manchester looks like washout coz of rain predicted on days 2,3,4. Even if you take 90 overs in total from a match its a draw. All hopes on the last and final match in Good old old trafford on 15th August The Independence day, India vs England.... 1-1 and all to play for...Go India Go...

  • on August 1, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    msd has to promote himself like the great Imran khan, virat@ #5, n dhawan needs rest, plz bring gambhir in his place. also give some rest to buvi, bring yadav. n 4 bowlers are ok. ashwin in place of jadeja. thanks.

  • jingopack on August 1, 2014, 20:15 GMT

    just wonder why we couldnt try something different rather than playing conventionally in last test.....like sending in jadeja earlier to upset the lines ...to shake them a bit...anyway jadu and dhoni dont possess technique for batting long hours...so they can make impact by playing some unconventional strokes.....when series lead at stake....y cant we try tat.....remember england bowlers length changed when jaddu counter attacked in lords and it came off....

  • mzm149 on August 1, 2014, 20:12 GMT

    If Dhoni has to drop Dhawan he will open the innings with Rohit Sharma (after all he is ODI and t20 opener). He will retain Jadeja to finish this 4 bowler or 5 bowler debate. If Dhawan is dropped playing XI would be:

    1. Vijay 2. Rohit 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Rahane 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Kumar (if fit)/Aaron 10. Shami 11. Singh/Pandey

    If Dhawan is not dropped then may be Jadeja will go:

    1. Vijay 2. Dhawan 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Rahane 6. Rohit 7. Dhoni 8. Ashwin 9. Kumar (if fit)/Aaron 10. Shami 11. Singh/Pandey

    I think first XI looks more probable because Dhoni won't sacrifice Jadeja's place. In any circumstances Gambhir will not play as far as I think.

  • on August 1, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    My XI for the next test in the particular batting order :

    Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Rahane, Virat, Ojha, Dhoni, Ashwin, Shami, Pankaj, Aaron/ Ishwar since Bhuvi and Ishant are unfit..

    God knows why Rohit Sharma is given so many chances in the test team.. even if he succeeds, it's an occasional event and he's clearly unfit for tests because of his attitude and temperament of throwing his wicket away.. Dhawan has been given enough chances and Ojha has been unbelievable in his performance in Australia. Hopefully he continues that. But first, he needs to be given an opportunity.

  • JustIPL on August 1, 2014, 19:56 GMT

    A five test series is too long keeping in view the fitness level of Indian players. This time they can't complain of having less warmup games, even the first test practically was a warmup in addition to two low intensity warmups. Fans will lose interests in such toothless teams soon and empty stands mean less following on the TV screen which will be loss to the sponsors and advertisers. Also, products endorsed by people having negative reputation will not be liked by consumers. So, ICC has to ensure that test series are shorter and extremely competitive.

  • on August 1, 2014, 19:47 GMT

    my team vijay dhawan pujara virat rahane binny dhoni aswhin jadeja bhuvi/pankaj ishwar/varun aaron if bhuvi is not fit pick pankaj swing bowler is binny and bhuvi spinners both ash and jaddu can bowl lengthy spells aaron for short burst of fast bowling

  • Balaguruswamy on August 1, 2014, 19:22 GMT

    I think bringing in Gambhir and Ashwin in the playing XI would make good difference in the next couple of test matches

  • on August 1, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    My XI for Fourth Test : Gambhir, VJ, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Jadeja, Bhuvi (if fit), Ishwar(for Pankaj), Aaron (for Shami). If Bhuvi can't play, then Pankaj can play.

    Dhoni 's XI : Dhawan, VJ, Che, Vk, Rahane, MSD, Ashwin (hopefully), Jadeja, Bhuvi (if fit), Pankaj, Ishwar or Aaron for Shami. If Bhuvi isn't fit, then Shami will play in spite of looking pathetically clueless and exhausted.

  • on August 1, 2014, 18:56 GMT

    i think umesh should b called for remaining two test,gauti should b included in place of dhawan..my playing eleven would b..1.GAUTAM 2.VIJAY 3.PUJARA 4.KOHLI 5.RAHANE 6.DHONI 7.ASHWIN 8.YADAV 9.BHUVI 10.V ARON 11.PANKAJ ... DHONI should play for win not for saving a test match ,india should b attacking in his approach thts why i left out jadeja n included two fastest bowler v hv in india...

  • on August 1, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    Those people who are saying Dhoni doesn't know to bat overseas , that Kohli should be made captain, please look at the series stats. MSD has two fifties in 3 tests. He's been involved in 3 50+ stands, not to mention that innings at Lords, where he held one end strong against the pace and swing of Anderson and Broad. Virat doesn't have even one fifty, and the stand with Dhawan on Day 4 was his first 50+ stand. Who's been better???

    But team selection wise, Dhoni didn't want to risk anything, that's why he went with 4 bowlers, which would've worked if Ishant had played. Also, with Shami, Jadeja not performing at all, India had just two bowlers, with one of them on debut. Next test at least, let's hope we go in with 4 or 5 bowlers(preferably 5). Let's hope Bhuvi is all right for next test, cause Shami looks lost, Pankaj doesn't look like taking the game away in one spell. He's a line & length bowler. Next test, Ashwin for Jad, Aaron for Shami, Ishwar for Pankaj/Bhuvi, if Bhuvi can't.

  • on August 1, 2014, 18:31 GMT

    bringing in naman ojha gives a very attacking wicketkeeper batsman and Dhoni if he is can be used as a proactive captain, medium pace swing bowling of some overs..There of lot of options management and coach staff should discuss and lay out proper 11 on field. .

  • ZkAneela on August 1, 2014, 18:08 GMT

    I dont understand whether it is the lack of decent fast bowlers in India or whether it is their complete downfall in cricket world that they look Ishant Sharma as a very huge factor in their huge defeat in 3rd test.I believe we all know how good a bowler he was and is (only one performance dont make you a star)...

  • on August 1, 2014, 18:06 GMT

    the biggest problem is dhoni and his defensive mentality and his in ability to bat out side sub continent .... we need to play 4 seamers include varun in the team ask him to jst bowl fast bouncers . make kohli captain ..

  • on August 1, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    @reddy459 your team looks good ..but going in with naman ojha instead of gambhir looking good. .rahane opening will be too good since he s a confident player can give good starts along with vijay who plays with good defensive technique. .hope this team we could see for 4th test. .

  • LoveTeamIndia on August 1, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    These young Indian fast bowlers play 2-3 tests and then get injured and miss the next 2-3. BCCI should organize a coaching class taught by Kapil Dev, who bowled tirelessly in long series' and rarely (never?) missed a test because of injury. These are professionals--so "too much cricket" is not acceptable excuse. In a test match, a pacer has to bowl at most 50-60 overs over 5 days---how is that "too much"?

  • Cric_Janbaz on August 1, 2014, 17:33 GMT

    I cant understand people even experts saying that Anderson's not banned,England shall win remaining 2 tests now....I mean he was there in first 2 tests of the series and England still couldn't manage to win....India needs their bowlers to step up

  • RonG on August 1, 2014, 16:40 GMT

    Unfortunately I see a sinking Indian ship here and players bailing out. If you have observed, losing teams (any team, not just India) will have lot more injuries/fitness concerns to report than winning teams. Maybe Cricinfo's team of statisticians can quantify this.

    Only way for India to not lose any more matches, is for England to produce green Lords like wickets - Indian bowlers need help; on flat wickets English bowlers will easily outbowl Indian bowlers as witnessed in both Nottingham and Ageas Bowl (1st innings lead for Eng). And yes India should play 5 bowlers - 3 fast and 2 spinners.

  • on August 1, 2014, 16:35 GMT

    my playing xi-vijay,gambhir,pujara,kohli,rahane,dhoni,ojha(wk),ashwin,bhuvi,varun/shami,pankaj

  • Ram.TG on August 1, 2014, 16:08 GMT

    Vijay/Ashwin (openers), Pujara, Rahane, Kohli ©, N.Ojha(wk), Binny, Jadeja, Aaron, Pankaj, I.Pandey.

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    Dhoni better you go with six bowlers. If one is have bad day others can do. If you take four, if one is off day other will become sick quickly in test. Long spells are tough on these guys. Give some energy to bowlers. Any how Bhuvi and Ashwin are better batsman they score as much as out of form batsman. Please go with SIX bowlers. Murali/Dhawan/kohli/Rahane/Dhoni/Jaddu/Ashwin/Bhuvi/Aaron/Shami/P.Singh

  • niddib on August 1, 2014, 15:43 GMT

    Dhoni is talking about being positive in their approach. What about having 5 bowlers and a few part timers- it is not being positive? At the end of the day, you have to get 20 wickets to win the matches, not by scoring more runs alone. Dhoni is negative in his own approach, he did not learn the lessons from so many lost series which they could have won had he not deployed his defensive tactics. I think his mindset after winnning the second test is to draw rest of the matches by batting English team out. He squandered the chance to keep England under pressure during the series and he is at the receiving end now.

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:31 GMT

    I think if there is a swelling on Bhuvneshwar Kumar's ankle they should give him some rest think for the long run. Hoping everything will be find.. good luck to both the team ...

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    missing bhuvi n ishant is a big worry fror india n i think guti will replace dhawan n yadav will replace bhuvi if heis nt fitfor the next match, there is no problem with pankaj shing......dhoni should have give chance to gautam earlier........n might be ashwin will get chance if condition fit fr him.......

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Dear Mr Dhoni sir if you continue with 4 bowlers and extra batsman , opposition will continue to score 500 or more and for5th test you are left with only batsman..:). Play with 5 bowlers and concentrate on getting 20 wickets..

  • jimmyvida on August 1, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    Has anybody taken a good look at England's batting line up? Heavy run scorers up to number 9. That compares to India heavy run getters to number 6. Their fielding is 2000% better than India. Look no further.

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Best possible team and order at present is:

    Ghambir, Vijay, Pujara, Rahane, Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvneswar, Aoron, Pankaj

  • on August 1, 2014, 15:02 GMT

    My Five bowler team would be: Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Ishanth, Pankaj, and Aaron.

    My four bowler team: Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Naman Ojha, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Ishanth, Pankaj or Aaron.

  • on August 1, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    @Sandeep Bajpai- Why don't you try and bowl for India in test cricket? It's one thing to comment on a computer sitting on an arm-chair, It's completely different thing to go out in the middle and bowl ur heart out for ur country.. For God sake, Why don't you Indian fans consider these players as human beings for a change? They are not machines, They are HUMANS! If you say IPL is the reason then I will tell you that just like all of us, They play cricket as their profession to earn money to feed their family and themselves.. Don't you overtime to earn more? Likewise they are doing the same thing..They play IPL to earn more just like we all do in our respective profession... Try to consider them as human beings, Don't be judgemental from the comforts of ur home.. Can you bowl two over like they do? You will start complaining after just three balls.. It's easy to dish out numbers sitting on a chair.. Do it in the middle if you're so concerned abt Indian cricket..

  • cseg1 on August 1, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    EveryOne talking about their XI's for 4th test, I am going to tell Dhoni's XI will definitely conatains 'Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit, Shami' for sure. Apart from Rohit everyone failed to create a impact in any one of the 6 innings, even if Rohit played all 6, he remains the same. God only will save India.

  • perl57 on August 1, 2014, 14:51 GMT

    I agree with most comments here. Replace Ishant, Bhuvi, Shami with Varun, Naman and Ashwin. Dhawan goes out Gauti comes in. Pankaj goes out Binny comes in. So XI might be Gauti Vijay CP Virat MSD Rohit Ashwin Binny Ishwar Varun Naman (Give MS option to bowl) .

  • niazbhi on August 1, 2014, 14:49 GMT

    Unless the team is bowling 80 overs or less having a fifth bowler can help. 90s WI did not need a fifth bowler because they have 4 bowlers who can get wickets. So they hardly ever bowled more than 80 or 90 overs. Even then Viv and Gomez bowled a few overs so that quicks can get some rest. Teams with a great spinner lets the spinner bowl 30% of the overs so that the quicks do not have to bowl more than 20%. Dhoni kept Bhuvi for long spells because he looked like he can get wickets. Cook lets Anderson take a break after 7 overs even when Woakes and Jordan did not look like they were going to get wickets. Kapil, Botham, Imran all played as allrounders, why cannot Woakes/Moeen/Ashwin/Kumar/Jadeja play as allrounders (averaging 35+ runs and bowling as a bowler)

  • reddy459 on August 1, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    my TEAM would be 1.vijay 2.ajhinkya rahane 3.pujara 4.kohli 5.gambhir 6.dhoni 7.jadeja 8.ashwin 9.bhuvaneshwar 10.pankaj/pandey 11.aaron/shami. lets give some more FREE time for the in-form RAHANE nd strengthen the middle order with GAMBHIR.we get extra bowling-batting option with ASHWIN..i perfer SHAMI to nY other bowler ,particularly if there r ny signs of REVERSE swing. nd would retain bhuvi if he is fit enuff nd use him in short bursts.. i would make it very clear to ASHWIN that he is not my front line spinner BUT only my fifth bowling option..

  • Retour on August 1, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    On one hand, bowlers falling like flies, on the other, Dhoni defends 4 bowler tactic. One of the benefits to play 5 bowlers is that bowlers as a group remain fresh and fit during a long series, but I guess Ind team management sees no correlation

  • on August 1, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    Well, i am actually surprised that in modern age, out players struggle to play test matches and they get TIRED after 2-3 test matches....... never in my thoughts i could see players like Kapil, imran khan, hadlee, gavaskar, azhar, ravi shastri, tendulkar, dravid, kumble, laxman, ganguly, ambrose, walsh, marshal, alan donald , wasim akram, mcgrath, bret lee, shaun pollock, steyn, morkel etc.. getting tired of playing test cricket.. what kind of fitness levels do our current crop of players possess... in a day, you have a maximum of 90 overs.. divide that by 4 and you end up with 22 overs a day... and if u have 5th part timer who can chip in with 7-8 overs a day, then you have to bowl 20 overs a day.. is that too much to ask from an international fast bowler?? These are all result of excessive t20 cricket and IPL.. all that a bowler has to do is to bowl 4 overs per match.. and that's it...

  • on August 1, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    Why umesh yadav is left out

  • Rain-bows on August 1, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    My 11 for 4th Test- Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Virat, Rahane, Rohit, Dhoni, Ashwin, Ishwar, Aaron, Pankaj

  • Rain-bows on August 1, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Give Bhuvnehwar and Shami a rest, bring in Ishwar pandey and Varun Arron. Rahit should make way fro Ashwin and Dhawan should make way for Gambhir. That would be the right combination for next match.

  • Indian_Cricket_Fan_Club on August 1, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    1st test had 5 specialist batsmen, 1 wicketkeeper bastsmen, 1 batting all-rounder (Jadeja). Added to that bowlers Bhuvi, Shami and Binny (all-rounder or not) contributed with the bat still. Really don't think a smart cricketing brain like Dhoni decides to strengthen the Batting (excuse Binny did nit bowl). The bowling talents list continue Zaheer, Praveen, RP Singh, Munaf, Irfan, VRV Singh, Varun, Umesh but will not survive if stressed enough with 4 and 3.5 bowlers expected to bowl out 20 wickets. Don't forget the stress on people like Dravid, Irafan as well before had to do extra work like Opening the batting, Keeping wickets etc to feed the crazy idea of playing with extra batsmen. Too much money floating from the IPL/other leagues now seems to be affecting the cricket. Unless We have to ignorantly believe the decision to play extra batsmen really a cricketing decision. Have always disliked IPL for the money that floats even though it gives so much of entertainment.

  • on August 1, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    11 for 4th Test - Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Varun & Pankaj

  • whocared on August 1, 2014, 11:40 GMT

    Bringing Aswin wont help bowling department (agreed). However he is a better batter than rohit+dhawan altogether. If Rahane doesnot open, then god may save india. Binny is not a better batter (agreed). But he saved first match so deserves a room.

  • on August 1, 2014, 11:39 GMT

    Some interesting numbers. Out of total runs scored by Indian batsmen if we take out highest score by each individual, i.e. 103 which Rahane, we will be able to make out how consistent these batsmen are. Player Inns Runs Ave M Vijay 5 218 43.60 Rahane 5 167 41.75 B Kumar 5 165 33.00 CA Pujara 5 135 27.00 RA Jadeja 5 105 21.00 MS Dhoni 5 87 17.40 S Dhawan 5 85 17.00 V Kohli 5 62 12.40 STR Binny 3 10 3.33 RG Sharma 1 6 3.00

    how is that?

  • sampu_sheikh on August 1, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    The bowling attack looks very tired after 3 tests. These bowlers aren't used to playing a 5 test series, even more so with the series played in less than 45 days and by doing majority of the bowling in foreign conditions. I would rest Jadeja, Bhuvi & Shami and bring them back in test 5. Bring Ashwin, Varun & Ishwar in their place. Gambhir and Binny should replace Dhawan and Kohli, both have failed in all 6 innings. Gambhir provides stability and experience while Binny also gives a legitimate 5th bowling option. Dhoni will probably only make 1-2 changes though. My XI for Old Trafford: Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara, Rohit, Rahane, Ashwin, Dhoni, Binny, Ishwar, Aaron and Pankaj.

  • on August 1, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    Why are we defeding MS Dhoni's batting (a person who doesn't know how to leave and gets out in the same manner every time) My playing XI would be : 1) Gambhir 2) Vijay 3) Kohli (at his favourite position) (C) 4) Pujara 5) Rahane 6) Naman Ojha 7) R Ashwin 8) R Jadeja 9) Bhuvi (if fit)/ Shami 10) Ishwar Pandey 11) P Singh

  • Vishal63 on August 1, 2014, 10:12 GMT

    Team India need to make some changes in their XI.

    India XI: 1. Gautam Gambhir, 2. Murali Vijay, 3. Cheteshwar Pujara, 4. Virat Kohli, 5. Ajinkya Rahane, 6. MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7. Ravindra Jadeja 8. Naman Ojha/Ishwar Pandey/Pankaj Singh/Stuart Binny, 9. Ravichandran Ashwin, 10. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 11. Varun Aaron

  • on August 1, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    My Team would be for ext test: 1. Gambhir, 2. Vijay, 3. Rahane, 4. Pujara, 5. Kohli, 6. Dhoni, 7. Ashwin, 8. Bhuvi, 9. Pankaj, 10. V.Aaron, 11. I Pandey

  • madras_boy on August 1, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    I am shocked to see a CSK fan talking against Ashwin. Ashwin started his career as a opening batsman and may be a good replacement for Dhawan. I bet he can score more than Dhawan. If he manages to give a 50+ partnership with Vijay at the top and stand at the crease for 2 hours in the field, that is more than enough !!!

    All looked tired in the third test and there is no enthusiasm. Time to ring in changes. I would love to see Ashwin, Vijay, Kohli, Pujara, Rahane, Dhoni, Jadeja, Bhuvi, Pankaj, Varun and Pandey. Lets see what the selectors decide !

  • know_ur_game on August 1, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    If India want to win or have at least a fight ,make changes at the top. Replace Dhoni with someone else as Captain preferably GG and also get in somebody as wk. Replace Dhawan, as "Lappebaji" at the top order can survive only in a few games, which he already had. Replace Jadeja with Ashwin. Forget Ishant, as luck smiles at him once in 2 years like at Lords, which allow him to stay in the team for another 3years without doing anything. We have only twelve left for the selection of final 11. That will be easier.

  • on August 1, 2014, 8:45 GMT

    To be very honest... Ishant just clicked in one match.. Before that match everyone was calling for his head and asking questions about his selection.. His availibility or non-availibility doesnt make any difference. Also, if you compare England, they are playing non stop cricket since Ashes in England last year. Might have played atleast 15 test matches and their bowlers are still intact.. Our players play 2 matches and miss the next 3

  • on August 1, 2014, 8:37 GMT

    India must go with Varun Aaron if they are looking to win the next match. Drop Shami as he's made a very little impact thus far. Varun has fresh legs as of now and of course the extra pace India's been missing this series.

  • baji003 on August 1, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    Bringing ashwin will never change anything, even though i am a CSK fan, have to accept that mystery in his bowling already a open book and away test record is very poor. My team selection preference would be, Rahane,Vijay,kohli,pujara,rohith,dhoni,jadeja,pandey,pankaj,bhuvi,shami. part times would be rohith & kohli , kohli can play duminy role atleat , if he cant contribute with runs, and if cannot drop him as he is star player. Kohli should promoted and should 1 down as his favourite position.

  • sray23 on August 1, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    The bowling needs to be refreshed big time. It's unfair to ask anyone to play 5 tests in such a short time. Bhuvi & Shami have already played 3 back to back tests. They need to rest the next game. Replace them with Binny & Aaron. And also India need to go back to 5 bowlers (Ashwin replacing Rohit). Dhoni denies it but as Chappel said, he just wanted to sit on the 1-0 lead and thats why he played the extra batsmen. Such defensive cricket must never happen again. We should play to win each & every game - and most important for that is a fresh and hungry bowling attack. 4 bowlers do not provide that - 5 bowlers will. Even if the 5th bowler is underbowled sometimes, he options and peace of mind it provides the captain and the other bowlers is very valuable.

  • balaji28 on August 1, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    Ishwar chand pandey is a natural outswinger as even Glenn mcgrath praised his bowling ability who bowls surprising bouncers and he is a kind of bowler for the future.Ishwar chand Pandey can replace shami. while ashwin can replace rohit sharma. Naman ojha can replace dhawan. My playing XI- Vijay,Rahane,Pujara,Kohli,Naman Ojha, , Ashwin, Jaddu, Bhuvi, Ishwarchand pandey, Pankaj singh.

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:31 GMT

    dhoni back to his odi and t20 mode of captaincy... u can't win test matches with bits and pieces cricketers like binny and jadeja... ashwin is the best spinner in the squad and he s more than just a good lower order batsman (look at his career stats)... can't say if gambhir will perform better than dhawan but he s surely worth a try .... drop rohit who is clearly not performing overseas and get Aaron in ... vijay / gambhir / pujara / kohli / rahane / dhoni / ashwin / bhuvi / Aaron / shami / pankaj

  • on August 1, 2014, 7:23 GMT

    Varun is another option, Dhoni must try him

  • Dilmah82 on August 1, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    This is a big concern because its your most experienced bowler, and your most consistent player this series both out. They need to strengthen the bowling to take 20 English wickets. Ashwin must play! Shame they didn't have someone like Sehwag who not only is an experienced attacking batsmen, he provides another useful bowling option and is okay in the slips!

  • xylo on August 1, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    I believe India is short on the fourth and fifth bowler, with Jadeja being the fourth bowler. If Ashwin were the spinner, that would mean something.

  • on August 1, 2014, 6:36 GMT

    All this talk about a 5 test series taking its toll on India is absolute rubbish. Ishant was already done after 2. Bhuvi 'looks tired' after 3. Saha didn't even play 1. And we have only played 3 so far. So is it the fear of having to play 5 tests thats getting players injured? No. Our players were probably not that fit to begin with. Not fit to even play two tests let alone five.

    So please change the narrative of this devilish "5 test series" being the reason for injuries. Absolute rubbish.

  • Naresh28 on August 1, 2014, 6:34 GMT

    Too many passengers in the test team. Some are only suitable to ODI. This means that the test team needs an overhaul. The bowlers struggle to make inroads and allow the opposition to score heavily. In Naman Ohja, Saha, Sanju Samson we have at least three candidates for the wicketkeeper role. Dhawan and Rohit Sharma have been the biggest flops. Choosing bowlers for India is the biggest headache the selectors will have - we just dont have Kumble's anymore.

  • csr11 on August 1, 2014, 6:26 GMT

    Naman Ojha, given his excellent performance in Australia where he hit 4 hundreds in as many innings, should be played as a batsman, in place of Rohit. And Gambhir should come in place of dhawan. We may even get two good slip fielders as a bonus.

    However - I am afraid that that Dhoni wont play Naman! another defeat and Dhoni's own captaincy would be in danger - as I have long maintained.

    Chappel does say the right things sometime - I think the moment we saw the team selection it was evident that india is going to lose this match. this test was a direct result of dhoni going back to his defensive shell too soon.

  • jokerbala on August 1, 2014, 5:49 GMT

    The only way I see India having any chance is if Anderson gets Banned for a match or two. This test brought back memories of 2011 debacle where the same "flat" track for England batsmen looked like a mine field once the english bowlers had the ball in their hands.Bhuvi looked pedestrian, at 125km/hr you are not going to trouble international batsmen. Shami can't be faulted for lack of effort but there is no idea behind his bowling.No variations , where is his lethal reverse swing? I remember 2005 ashes had a lot of reverse for England and the commentators now have been harping on about how warm the summer has been. Pankaj looked good enough to play at this level whether he will excel remains to be seen. Jadeja cannot be your front line spinner in overseas conditions but neither can Ashwin in my humble opinion. Remember the South Africa test where Ashwin could not force a wicket on a last day pitch? We should have taken Amit Mishra as an attacking option. more about batting later....

  • ultimatewarrior on August 1, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    After looking A Rahane's Batting on the tour we can actually move him at No.4 before Virat Kohli so that India will surely score at least 20-50 Runs more per Innings.....

  • mayuresh11 on August 1, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    my playing 11

    gambhir vijay pujara kholi rahane rohit dhoni jadeja ashwin aron pankaj sing

    if u r not selecting ashwin as as spiner than there is no use of taking him for tour instead of him should pick mishra

  • DontMessWithZohan on August 1, 2014, 4:56 GMT

    Rohit Sharma never had the temperament of a Test batsman and it seems he will never have it. Shikhar Dhawan is a big flop. Jadeja and Dhoni are way too much of a limited overs batsman. Although, I am a Dhoni fan, and I don't really like Gambhir - but still, I think, Gambhir should be back in playing XI and should be captaining the side. I believe Gambhir is a good captain. Kohli does not have it, and still has a lot of work to do to become Test captain.

  • sarangsrk on August 1, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    Why is Ishwar Pandey not considered? He is tall, hits the deck hard and does have some pace. I would prefer him over Pankaj Singh anyday after looking at what Pankaj has to offer. Built like a stone but bowls medium pace. However, Dhoni is happy with him, don't know why.Bring in Aaron in place of Shami if Bhuvi is fit. For God's sake, Get Ashwin in place of Rohit Sharma. Rohit is too casual for anyone's liking. Ashwin can score that many and get wickets too.Also, he is a good 1st slip fielder. Dhawan doesn't look slip catcher at all. Slips should be Ashwin, Rahane, Kohli with Jadeja at Gully. Drop Dhawan and bring in Gambhir. These many changes are required not just because of defeat but because who's performing and who's not.

  • golusoni27 on August 1, 2014, 3:53 GMT

    In my opinion the team should be 1. Murli Vijay (he's in good form and he is proving himself) 2. gautam Gambhir (he's been a diamond for team India and dhawan form is worst from past 6-7 months, not a single century)

    3. Virat Kohli 4. Cheteshwar Pujara 5. Ravinder Jadeja (send him above at no. 5, his first class record is great, gice him a diff. mindset when batting) 6. Ajiyanka Rahane 7. Rohit Sharma 8. M.S.Dhoni 9. R.Ashwin (he is a diamond, must be taken in the team as spin is working, see M.ali he took 8 wickets and he is not specialist, and HE CAN BAT TOO. ) 10. B.Kumar (if not injured) o.w ishwar pandey 11. varun aaron (he has improved his skills in IPL, he has speed, should be given a chance)

    ashwin can do whatever others have failed to do so rohit sharma / vijay / kohli / dhawan can bowl too

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:44 GMT

    India should go in with bhuvi, shami, ishwar , varun, ashwin considering bhuvi , ashwin as all rounders..bhuvi bowling bit and effective spells, this is feasible in next two matches..even I would say let umesh yadav come in for injured ishanth. .no pankaj Singh or ishanth for the next two matches..no 2 spinners needed. .ashwin can be tried in place of jadeja giving him some rest..5 bowlers as stated above is must. .hoping good for team India in ot and oval. .Anderson missing next 2 games, other bowlers not being so fit for England India have chances..If possible even drop Dhoni bring in naman ojha , making disciplined rahane as captain ...changes required. .

  • on August 1, 2014, 3:37 GMT

    India would have been better off having Ashwin in place of Rohit Sharma. There was a comment which said that rather than just looking at the pitch captains must also look at weather. In this match there was no possibility of rain. With the heat, the grass was expected to die out and the pitch become more spin friendly than Lords. Dhoni did miss a trick there. Secondly, the catching has to be spot on. If Jadeja held onto that catch, it may have resulted in a different outcome. With their captain under pressure right form the word go, and yound Pankaj getting his first test wicket, we might have just seen a different contest. Such instances come back to haunt and it did haunt India big time. Lastly the batsmen: Dhawan is a flop and its time we replace him with Gambhir. At worst, he will play as badly as Dhawan. even in this match rather than Rohit, we should have had Gambhir, either in middle order or demoted Dhawan to middle order instead.

  • FNS18 on August 1, 2014, 3:19 GMT

    Please do not ask Rahane to open the innings. He is the batsman doing well in the middle order and holding the middle order and or lower middle order very well. Why disturb that? If Dhawan needs replacement we have selcted specialist opener for the tour - Gautam Gambhir, try him.

  • vj3478 on August 1, 2014, 2:52 GMT

    Binny is not a test bowler. Jadeja is not a test bowler. Shami is erratic. Ishant is a lottery. So, get Ashwin for Jadeja, Aaron/Pankaj as fifth bowler(may be new/ erratic.. but they are actual bowlers unlike Jaddu or Binny). try Gambhir for Dhawan or even Rohit... cant get worse! One good opening partnership and you can see miracles! and no Kohli/Jadeja in slips.. they just arent slip fielders!

  • IndianSRTfan on August 1, 2014, 2:51 GMT

    @Greatest_Game: YAWN! Firstly Virat isn't going anywhere, the suggestion is supremely laughable as the guy has scored in overseas conditions and remains the only guy who can take away the game in a session. I'd rather have Shikhar in the team than Gambhir who doesn't even have good domestic performances to stake his claim so it's a rubbish suggestion. So please let's not these sermons on team selection from you as they aren't any good and aren't going to make any difference anyways.

    Ashwin and Aaron need to come in the team for Rohit/Dhawan and Shami though. If Dhawan is to be rested, Rahane can open. Bhuvi's injury is a real body blow if it's serious. Shami has been ordinary for five tests now but if Bhuvi is gonna sit out, can't see Dhoni dropping him. Bhuvi, Pankaj, Aaron, Ashwin, Jadeja should be the bowling attack. If Bhuvi isn't fit, Shami should play. Arresting England's momentum will be the key at OT.

  • spinkingKK on August 1, 2014, 2:08 GMT

    "what cricket really is is about the amount of runs you score and the wickets you take. You don't have to survive for long if you are scoring quickly." Dhoni said it right. But, under his captaincy everybody seems to worry about getting out. They play like it is a timeless test match.

  • Nish_US on August 1, 2014, 1:24 GMT

    If you ask my honest opinion, Amit Mishra, Prgyan Ojha, Umesh Yadav should have been on the tour, if not always in the final X1.

    Guys I am tired of all of this tying against Mr Dhoni.. he does not have any shame at least I should show some and retire from this Dhoni bashing.

  • JyothiRaj on August 1, 2014, 1:23 GMT

    My 11 Vijay,Gambhir,Kohli,Pujara,Rahane,Dhoni,Aswin/Mishra,Bhuvi,Shami,IPandey,Ojha.Kohli is prolific at no 3or 6 and do not change him.Pujara can be 4th.

  • on August 1, 2014, 1:21 GMT

    My Team for the next match 1) Vijay 2) Dhawan 3)Pujara 4)Kohli 5)Rahane 6)Dhoni 7)Ashwin 8)Jadeja 9)Bhuvi 10)Pankaj 11)Aaron

  • on August 1, 2014, 1:12 GMT

    India came to England with best available Seamers in Domestic circuit. With Selectors having faith on them, India should include them on playing 11 to test their calibre. Also main string bowlers are tired or injured to play on next tests. Pankaj bowled beautifully than Ishanth normaly does and so he should be given one more chance. Pandey and Aaron are fresh and can be tried. Also we should play with 5 Bowlers for remaining tests which should better the chance of winning them.Ashwin can be included replacing Rohit as he can both bat patiently and alos attack with his spin. Jadeja can be retained for one more test as no other option than Binny is available as AllRounder.Dhoni will give Dhawan one more try so will not be having changes on top 6. I would prefer Naman instead of Dhoni as he is a better keeper-batsmen in test format. But with Dhoni as Captain, it won't happen. So playing 11 will be : Vijay-Dhawan, Pujara,Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin,Jadeja, Pankaj, Aaron, Pandey.

  • AvidCricFan on August 1, 2014, 0:24 GMT

    Shami has been ineffective in this series. He looks tired and need to be given break in the last two game. Dhoni's role in test cricket needs to be reevaluated by the selection committee. His batting gets exposed in seaming conditions. His keeping is not that great either. He is more of a liability in test cricket than help. Dhawan should be replaced with Gambhir. Hope Pujara and Kohli comes through in the next game. These two future greats have no contribution in the series. The team really should have played five bowlers with Ashwin, Jadeja and Bhuvi proving alrounder option. Dhoni was wrong in his assessment of the Indian team playing English pacers well. Anderson's figures tell different story.

  • RanKan on July 31, 2014, 23:54 GMT

    I can't imagine anyone from this particular 11 being dropped except on the basis of fitness or to add another specialist bowler. They are perhaps the best India has. No Indian batsman has looked in trouble against pace so why drop them? Dhoni has appeared the weakest of the 'top order' but there is no one else who can captain this squad. Gambhir has dropped away over the last year so it will be chancy to pick him. Jadeja scores on attitude and fielding if not on revs on the ball.

  • Coolcapricorn on July 31, 2014, 22:36 GMT

    With MSD reverting to this ridiculous 4 bowler strategy, is it any wonder that he overbowls players like Bhuvi to death & so it not a surprise that BK has been carrying an injury. Overbowling your seamers like MSD has done also gradually reduces their effectiveness as they get tired & has an adverse effect on their batting too. Even Shami looks completely jaded & is need of a rest. It is not as we have an abundance of really talented fast bowlers & so we have to really look after the ones we have.

  • Greatest_Game on July 31, 2014, 22:33 GMT

    @ doran19 responded to Dhoni's comments, saying "Dhoni said, "I thought with Shikhar [Dhawan] and Vijay and Rohit being around, we can use that fifth bowler. What is he thinking of test match cricket? Does these guys get you wickets?"

    Dhawan, Vijay & Rohit might get you the occasional wicket - Vijay & Rohit have 1 each. A worse problem is Dhawan, Rohit & Kohli "might" get you the occasional runs, and runs are need as much as wickets are needed.

    This series Virat is averages 16.83, Rohit 17, & Dhawan 20.83. Those are not batsmen's averages: Kumar puts them to shame, Jadega makes valuable contributions & even Shami scores as wall as Dhawan, & better that Rohit & Kohli. India have ONLT 2 batsmen making runs - Vijay and Rahane. Dhawan & Rohit should never have made the tour, & Virat should be sent home with them. Virat can't even field - he has not yet held onto one catch!

    Four or five bowlers is a luxury when a team has only 2 batsmen! Gambhir must come back & marshal the batting!

  • crindo77 on July 31, 2014, 21:41 GMT

    @doran19. Umesh did get a fiver for but India lost by an innings in Perth. 0-4 remember? On a totally different track, isnt it time we started using Indian coaches? I mean whats the worst that can happen? 0-1, 0-3, 0-4? Its not like foreign coaches have rocked our away win records. The last time India had ANY sort of backbone was when the pet hate boy Ganguly was the captain. We never had a GREAT pace attack, and Kumble wasnt a great spinner overseas. What we had was some pretty good batters, and a heck of a captain. Honest,stood uo for his country, and hated losing. MSD please go

  • shashankrajkumar20 on July 31, 2014, 21:37 GMT

    @doran19- dude, first get ur facts right. ishant sharma was the one responsible for india's win in perth,and not umesh yadhav. Without knowing anything about cricket, you can keep your mouth shut. India should stick to the same combiation of 7 batsmen and 4 bowlers. I feel gambhir should replace dhawan,but considering dhoni's comments, I feel dhawan will play. India should pick aswin instead of jadu(if the pitch looks like a spining pitch, then they should select both aswin and jadu) My team- Dhawan (preferably gambhir), vijay,pujara,kohli,rahane,rohit sharma,dhoni,aswin,bhuvi(if fit, or shami),varun aaron, pankaj singh(or jadeja if pitch looks like a spinning ptch). The oitch in manchester usually is quick,so we have to select aaron and shami looked tired. If bhuvi is fit, he needs to play. otherwise india will have to pick shami.Jai Hindh

  • on July 31, 2014, 21:17 GMT

    Vijay Gambhir Pujara Kohli Rahane Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Pankaj Bhuvaneshwar Pandey

  • satchander on July 31, 2014, 21:12 GMT

    Well, what can we say ? After Dhoni was so positive by including 5 bowlers, he became defensive in this test by opting for only 4 bowlers and immediately lost the test match. Its tough to win matches consistently overseas if Dhoni continues to be defensive. We need a more aggressive captain and I think its time Kohi took over.

  • baskar_guha on July 31, 2014, 20:38 GMT

    This interview with MSD is an indictment of him as a test captain. He should restrict himself to ODIs and T20s with his attacking batting and defensive bowling notions. India badly needs a new leader for tests but there is a paucity of capable leaders from what I can tell.

  • AltafPatel on July 31, 2014, 20:19 GMT

    Don't know for what reason Binny replaced with Rohit. How much chance he got to show his talent. He already shown his ability in first test by determined batting.

  • on July 31, 2014, 20:11 GMT

    Ashwin should come in place of Jadeja and definitely Gambir should come in place of Dhawan. Gambir is a great batsman and should be given a chance. May be Kohli should also be replaced. Pujara is a disappointment and is overrated. He does not play 50 and 20 over matches and in test he has performed so badly.

  • Collegefastbowler on July 31, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    Dhoni has proven that he is not a Test cricket captain. He is very good in the shorter formats of the game but Test cricket requires a different mindset. First and foremost the team selection was wrong. Taking Binny was a huge mistake. Omitting Umesh Yadav and the leggie Amit Mishra were other blunders. Secondly packing your team with batsmen does not really help because if you do not have the bowling to take 20 wickets then your batsmen are going to be struggling under pressure due to the tall scores that the opposition can put up. Therefore you need a balanced team with 5 specialist batsmen, 5 specialist bowlers and 1 keeper batsman. Depending on the pitch one can go with 3 or 4 pace bowlers in England. Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron with Pankaj and Ishwar Pandey can be a really good pace attack and give the others a break. Drop Dhawan and bring in Gambhir. Drop Jadeja and bring in Ashvin. Give Naman Ojha a break and drop one of the other under performing batsmen.

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:59 GMT

    @Chakravarthy- Lol, Vijay is the highest scorer for India as of now and you want to keep him as your twelfth man? And you want to persist with Dhawan who has struggled against both pace and spin. Glad you are not our selector or captain.

  • doran19 on July 31, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    Dhoni said, "I thought with Shikhar [Dhawan] and Vijay and Rohit being around, we can use that fifth bowler.

    What is he thinking of test match cricket? Does these guys get you wickets? He is too defensive captain. Also, he is criticizing batsman for the defeat. Why our bowlers allowed england score 500 odd runs in the first place? Jadeja and Ashwin can contain runs but they don't get you wickets in heap. they are both good for ODI but not test. We need wicket taking bowlers. As most of them pointed out, Umesh needs to be in the team. He is the one responsible for us wining Perth test some years back. Also, leggie Mishra need to be included. It looks like only because of Dhoni, selectors ignored both Umesh & Mishra. It is high time Dhoni quits test captaincy.

  • on July 31, 2014, 19:16 GMT

    1 Gambhir (C),2 Vijay,3 Pujara,4 Rahane,5 OJha (Wk), 6 Viraat Kohli, 7 Shikhar Dhawan, 8 Ravi Ashwin, 9 Ishwar Pandey, 10 Pankaj Singh, 11 Varun Aaron....My playing XI....

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    My team for Manchester Test

    1) Gambhir 2) Naman Ojha 3) Rahane 4) Pujara 5) Kohli 6) Dhoni 7) Jadeja 8) Bhuvi 9) Ashwin 10) Aaron 11) Ishwar Pandey 12th Man Murali Vijay

  • on July 31, 2014, 18:45 GMT

    Even in overseas conditions Pragyan Ojha should have been in the team. With Ashwin and Ojha - these r u r match winning bowlers... or rather the best India has... these pankaj, aaron... they are too easy to play for most batsmen around the world. They don't test the batsmen enough. Gambhir must come in for Shikhar Dhawan, Naman Ojha must play straight away in place of Rohit Sharma, Ashwin needs to come in for Pankaj Singh and Aaron must come in for Shami for the Manchester Test. Rahane must play at #3 for the two remaining tests because of his form.

  • SpaMaster on July 31, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    I hope Dhoni is wrong since there is almost a week for the next Test. But if Ishant is not fit, India have to make a good call on how to strengthen their bowling and get 20 wickets. Shami has not been good and they have to decide if they can go with a poser along with a new-comer.

  • Nampally on July 31, 2014, 18:19 GMT

    I think India should seriously consider sending Ishant home & bring in Umesh Yadev. When Saha was sent home to bring in Ojha as the reserve WJ, why not send Ishant home & bring in a better pace bowler in Yadev. Yadev can open the bowling with Aaron with Pandey added on. Only one of the other 3 from Lumar, Shami & Pakaj should be taken as the 4th seamer. Keep Ashwin as the spinner to replace jadeja. The other 6 will be batsmen. Ishant was ucky to capture the wkts. in Lords Test & is highly unlikely to repeat that even if he was 100% Fit. He is generally a one or 2 Wkt. guy & gives away lot of runs. Yadev & Aaron provide real pace & on their day can match Broad & Anderson. Ashwin will be a great foil for 5 or 6 LH England bat including the top 3. Ishant's injury is blessing in disguise although Dhoni might think otherwise. He is unlikely to be fit for the 5th Test too. So use the situation to bring in another "Real" pace bowler.

  • on July 31, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    My xi for the next match

    1. Murali Vijay 2. Gautam Gambhir 3. Cheteswar Pujara 4. Virat Kohli 5. Ajinkya Rahane 6. Dhoni 7. Ravindra Jadeja 8. Ravichandran Ashwin 9. Bhuvaneswar Kumar 10. Varon Aron 11. Pankaj Singh

  • on July 31, 2014, 17:05 GMT

    Get Yadav back in place of Ishant. Play 5 bowlers, the 5th bowler may not be used but you can choose which one not to use (the one who gets hit). With 4 bowlers you just cant do that.

    1. Shami 2. Kumar 3. Aaron 4. Yadav 5. Jadeja

  • RonzzzM on July 31, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    Shikar Dhawan Proves That He Is Only A Flat Bully Track Player ... He is not in form , he is only a ODI AND T20 Player , he is not a Test-Player Yet. He should have been dropped and has to be replaced by G Gambhir. Kohli has not been in form! R Ashwin Should get a chance in the team. Gambhir, Vijay, Pujara , Kohli, Rahane , MS Dhoni , Jadeja/R Sharma , Bhuvi , Shami , Aaron/Pandey/Pankaj Singh , R Ashwin

  • ArunThamizhnaadu on July 31, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    time for ash'win'.......... MY playing XI : 1. Vijay. (batting) 2. Dhawan (batting) 3. Pujara (batting) 4. kohli (batting) 5. rahane (batting) 6. Dhoni (bat/wk) 7. ashwin (alround) 8. jadeja (alround) 9. bhuvi (bowling) 10. shami (bowling) 11. umesh (bowling)

    SO WE CAN HAVE 8 Batsmen, 5 bowlers.

  • yogicoolboy on July 31, 2014, 16:18 GMT

    Play aron and ashwin and play gambhir

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    How long both Dhawan and Jadeja are going to be in the 11. Rohit the less said the better. Shammi is tagged out. He needs rest and rejuvenation. Get Ashwin and Padey in at any cost.

  • on July 31, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    My team for the next match ---

    Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Varun Aaron n Pankaj Singh

  • SinSpider on July 31, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    Changes: Gambhir for Dhawan ; Ashwin for Rohit ; Umesh for Shami

  • Vishruth27 on July 31, 2014, 15:15 GMT

    1. Vijay 2.Gambhir(his experience may finally aid india and dhawan out of form) 3.Kohli (up the order as struggling at 4) 4.Pujara(no 4 as getting good starts but not being able to convert them into big scores) 5.Rahane 6.Dhoni 7.Ashwin( five left-handers gives him advantage and he can bat) 8.Bhuvi 9.jadeja Ishwar 10.Aaron 11.Ishwar

  • Crickaddict on July 31, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    Deserved win for england. But india should not let their confidence down. Time for dhoni to thunk out of box and take risk and go for victory rather than safety. Old trafford pitch seems to be having pace and bounce. So only one spinner and go for 4 pacers.Ashwin as an opening batsman is not going to do worse than dhawan purely bcoz of his technique and temperament as a batsman.Then you can accomodate rohit as the sixth batsman.Pankaj , Bhuvi, Varon and shami should be the pacers. If umesh can be brought as replacement for ishant then umesh instead of shami. My 11 for 4th test Vijay, Ashwin, Pujara , Kohli, Rahane ,Rohit,Dhoni, Bhuvi,Pankaj Arron,Shami / Umesh. Go for the kill

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    what good the changes can do when u have an extremely negative captain. to force jadeja bowl a leg stump line in the second session of first day itself tells a story, the captain picked four bowlers (actually 3 because Pankaj on debut and Jadeja - much hyped but having limited abilities only constitute half a bowler each) only and played the great Rohit Sharma who always flatters to deceive. What is actually more distressing is that Dhoni has not taken the team forward and has in reality created a coterie of 5-6 six players with whom he is comfortable

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    definitely it's a deserved victory for england, dhoni's poor captaincy is the main error ,bringing dhawan again in 3rd test was very poor , u had a big opener for u to get some runs , of corz he had more runs n experienced lad who can be real challenge for english bowlers,my team for next match is gambir, vijay, pujara ,rohit ,rahane, dhoni, saha varon ,pandey ,bhuvi, jadeja or ashwin, india definitely need to go ahead to win the series anymore..definitely ishant fitness ll be big blow for us;;;

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:33 GMT

    Huge loss... considering the form(life time form) of Ishant now.

    Many people crying for Kohli exit. That would be stupid decision. He is Ace of Indian team. Already spent time understanding conditions.

    Aoron better choice to replace Ishant.

    When moean Ali could spinned out better batsman of spin bowlers, Jadeja unable to contain not so good batsman of Spin bowling doesn't support Jadeja at all. He has under performed definitely. So, Ashwin should be back.

    Dhawan wasted precious chances and he clearly appears in bad shape in these conditions.

    Considering all these, My team would be:

    Ghambir, Vijay, Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Aoron, Pankaj.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    India will be better served when they keep losing. We can then move on to other sports and stop being a one sport nation. We should encourage other sports. Time to look at football, hockey.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    India should play with five specialist bowlers with four seamers. Any ways they found seaming allrounder bhuvi..They need to concentrate taking 20 wickets of opposition(england).

  • PrinceTN on July 31, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    OUT - Rohit, Dhawan, M Shami n Jadeja (Optional) IN - Kohli, Gambhir, Aaron, Ashwin, Ishwar/Binny

    4th test Lineup

    1. Vijay 2. Gambhir 3. Pujara 4. Rahane 5. Kohli 6. Dhoni 7. Ashwin/Jadeja 8. Ishwar/Binny/Jadeja 9. B Kumar 10. Aaron 11. Pankaj

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    Partimer Mooen Ali picking up 6wickets against RHB except Jadeja. Y Dhoni not picked Ashiwn who is a primary bowler and there are many LHB in Eng side. One bad performance @ Jo'burg dosen't mean he is poor spinner in overseas. My 11 for 4th test Vijay, Gambhir, Pujara , Kohli, Rahane ,Saha (Wk),Dhoni(5th bowler) Ashwin Kumar Pankaj Arron/Shami.

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:07 GMT

    my Team India- 1-Dhoni,2- Rahane,3- Pujara,4- Rohit, 5-Gambhir ,6- Ashwani ,7- Ishant ,8- bhuvi,9- Varun ,10-Kohli,11 -murli

  • on July 31, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Aaron for Shami is a must now. Aaron might get a 6-for with his fiery pace. Pankaj should get another chance, he had Bell lbw and Cook's catch was dropped as well.

  • GRVJPR on July 31, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    Varun Aaron definitely in the team for net test match and so is Umesh yadav. Followed by pankaj and ashwin as offie. That is a threatening attack.

  • Absolutelycricket on July 31, 2014, 13:57 GMT

    Umesh yadav would have been a great asset here, really missing him now, shami should be replaced by V Aaron or j by U yadav , r sharma can be by ashwin he can bat dhavan should get one more chance to proove

  • Anubrata29 on July 31, 2014, 13:53 GMT

    As Ishant will not be available, the team for the next test should be: Vijay Gambhir Pujara Rahane Wriddhiman Dhoni Bhuvaneswar Jadeja Ashwin Pankaj I.Pandey

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    Gambhir should be back in team . Dhawan always shows his sensless performance ..

    Dhoni is really a very poor captian

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:49 GMT

    Need changes in the Batting top order, Bring In Gautam Gambhir in place of Dhawan or Kholi and Bowling part Ashwin for Jadeja & A part timer. As there is no consistent stand or good partnership in the top order batting a change is amust.

  • Surajrises on July 31, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    ProdigyA & KACZOR I totally agree with you guys but I am sure that you know till the time Dhoni's GURU N Srinivasan is backing him, nobody can touch him unless he himself decides to quit TEST FORMAT. The selectors in the BCCI are for namesake but all the shots are called by MS Dhoni backed by N Srinivasan. I really wish Ashwin had not made those silly comments (Which is actually true) where he indirectly told media that MS is a negative Captain and he is an aggressive bowler. This hurt Dhoni's EGO very very badly and hence Binny got a chance in the team. Gambhir too has made statements against Dhoni in the past and he is paying heavily for it. A class act like Gambhir warming bench is the most terrible thing to see. This man has scored big 100s in places like New Zealand where the ball actually moves more than England and he definitely should have been playing instead of Dhawan.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    india has played the match to lose, just like they did in 2011. spiritless performance.. I see Dhoni as the face of this spiritless team. A match where there is absolutely no good point to discuss about his captaincy, a huge contrast in a captains behaviour in only two tests. He looked dejected with each session and has to make a lot of change of people in the XI. Bring in players who can perform and not who have performed. Even an uneffective Stuart Binny seems a better choice than Rohit Sharma whom everybody bavks to perform well yet he fails expectations time and again. Need to see atleast Shami and Dhawan and Rohit sitting out. Add Kohli in the list if he can be a better 12th man

  • Hardy1 on July 31, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    Kind of had an inkling this would be the case after the weird description of the injury. A 'sore leg', really? Ashwin surely has to play instead of Rohit now. Whilst the batsmen didn't perform, I don't think they would have been anywhere near as bad without the daunting first innings score that they were up against as a result of insipid bowling.

    Surely Shami's place must be under threat too now. Bhuvi looked tired too but he'll probably play. At least Pankaj will probably get another chance now. I doubt Dhawan will be dropped so the only changes I can see are Ashwin for Rohit & perhaps Aaron or Ishwar replacing Shami.

  • Mr_Anonymous on July 31, 2014, 13:38 GMT

    I think some thought should be given and potentially the following changes should be considered:

    Gambhir comes in for Dhawan

    If only one spinner is selected, Ashwin needs to be given a chance in place of Jadeja

    Ishwar Pandey/Varun Aaron comes in for Shami

    Re-think whether Rohit Sharma coming in for Binny was a good selection. I personally don't think so (especially with the way Rohit got dismissed in the first innings). I think Binny is still a better choice for team balance reasons (and he made more average runs than Rohit). Or if 2 spinners can be considered, Jadeja maybe a choice as well.

    Question about whether Pankaj Singh stays or is replaced by one of Ishwar Pandey/Varun Aaron needs to be asked. Hopefully, he gets 1 more chance.

    I cannot fathom how Umesh Yadav did not make it to this squad. I just cannot understand this selection blooper.

    Bhuvi will have to play and be the leader of the attack if that is the case even if he may not get the new ball.

  • AntonDeck on July 31, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Aaron would be a massive risk in a 4 man attack. I guess Dhoni would know how well hes bowling in the nets, but his non selection to date suggests he hasnt been on fire so far. Meanwhile Bhuvi continues to be Indias most effective bowler despite bowling medium pace. Raw pace can be of value and coupled with height its caused England problems in recent times, but Im far from convinced that Aaron is able to bowl consistent line length and speed . Mind we said that about Ishant and a certain Aussie.... Binny was a complete no hoper with bat and ball, and would only get his place back if the weather forecast is less sunny than it has been. It would be a gamble selection though, and I suspect India would be happier playing for a drawn series than a won one.

  • A.Ak on July 31, 2014, 13:35 GMT

    Right now Ashwin is the most experience bowler in Indian side. India need to use him if they really want to win a match. Look at Ali and see what an off spinner can do in a test match. Dhoni has to try something differently now. Change the batting order, put 3.Rahane 4. Pujara 5. Kohli. When Ashwin (2 tons), Bhuvi (3 50s in 3 matches) and Jadeja can bat why do they need another batsman? India need a bowler to give pace bowlers osme rest.

  • sergio11 on July 31, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    this is terrible..both in batting and bowling whats missing is experince..first inng every batman got a start and threw it aways....next game is so important..Gambir must play instead of Dhawan..Ashwin for Rohit and Aaron for Shami..so the team will be 1.Vijay 2.Gambir 3.Pujara 4.Kholi 5.Rahane 6.Dhoni 7.Ashwin 8.Jaddu 9.Bhuvi 10.Pankaj 11.Aaron..with Dhoni,Kholi struggling, without a good openering partnership ind will get reach 350+..and bowling unless a pace bowler other than Bhuvi step up..there is no way ind can win this series..

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    remove bhuvi....he just doesn't have the pace...all are fluke wickets... bring varun aaron.....drop shami...give a chance to ishwar pandey........one more chance to pankaj...poor fella........i would tempt to stay with dhawan.....both gambhir and vijay are grinders score would stuck straight at the start that's not good for team cause.......gambhir should be in the team as a middle order batsmen....drop rohit.....remember rahane clicked as a middle batsmen only.....and last but not least....bring back ashwin....6 left handers in english team....

  • Surajrises on July 31, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    Very sad but India are losing this series from hereon. The injury list is increasing with Ishant, even Bhuvaneshwar Kumar is having side strain. Shammi might just manage to hold on to his place and we might have Pankaj Singh and Ishwar Pandey in the side. Like Ganguly said Aaron has not had any practice after the tour match so it wouldn't be a good idea to get him in unless Dhoni decides to drop Shammi as well! Dada also made a very good point of drafting Umesh Yadav from the India A team which is currently playing in Australia. If the selectors actually want Umesh to play at Manchester then he will have to immediately join the team so that even he gets some rest as well as good practice in the nets. Bhuvi was made to bowl just way too much per innings MS really din't look after him that well. I really wish R Ashwin had not made that silly statement before the start of the tour where he indirectly told media that he is an aggressive bowler and MS in negative.

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on July 31, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    And also not to forget Dhoni backs his favorite bits and pieces players like Jadeja. I think the reason why Gambhir isn't getting into the team is because Dhoni feels Gambhir can be a potential threat to his captaincy position. Amazing how Dhoni (mis)manages his players and nobody can do anything about it.

  • Darkmanx12155 on July 31, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    All you ishant haters now come here and pray he will be fit for the next test! he is the only hope we have. Dhoni will do the best for the team as he always has done. Stop criticizing him. He will bounce back to show this english team what he can do in the next game.

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on July 31, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Dhoni must be the worst Test captain in a long long time. His fans may say he is a 'tactical genius', but the truth is he is more of a 'roll-the-dice captain'. I mean, which captain uses 5 different bowlers in 5 overs? This type of merry go round bowling changes hurts the confidence of the bowlers. His keeping isn't great, and his batting is below average at best. He does not merit a place in the team as a player, let alone captain. He is a terrific limited-overs batsman but does not deserve to come anywhere near the Test team. Unless he decides to step down himself, it's impossible to drop him from the team with him being the poster boy of Indian cricket with so many endorsement deals. What we need is an inspirational captain for Tests. The only guy I can think of for that role is Gambhir.

  • ProdigyA on July 31, 2014, 13:19 GMT

    Is there any chance of Dhoni getting dropped from the team. His selfish team selection and pathetic captaincy not to forget his useless wicketkeeping is costing India match after match.

    Once he goes all problems will be solved, I dont mind India plays with only 10 players or without a captain but seeing him on the field even for a second is just frustrating and annoying.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    Bring in gambhir in place of Dhawan and Varun Aaron in place of Mohammad shami for the faster old Trafford pitch in next test,Ashwin for jadeja is another option to be thought of.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    My XI for next 2 test matches

    Murali Vijay Gautam Gambhir Ajinkya Rahane Rohit Sharma MS Dhoni Wriddhiman Saha Stuart Binny Ravichandran Ashwin Bhuvneshwar Kumar Varun Aaron Ishwar Pandey

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:12 GMT

    i want gambhir and ashwin for s dhawan and shami

  • HarrowXI on July 31, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    1) Rohit 2) Vijay 3)Pujara 4) Kohli 5)Rahane 6) Ashwin 7) MSD 8) Jadeja 9)Bhuvi 10) Shami 11) Varun aaron

    Shami and Aaron can be an impact bowlers. Bowling shorts spells. I expect Bhuvi, Jadeja, Ashwin to do the bulk of the bowling. Ishant injury is blessing in disguse. As never like the guy who had so many opportunity and so inconsistant. You never rely on him like bhuvi

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    India played fast bowlers well? when did they do that, Dhoni?

  • here2rock on July 31, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    Dhoni, Dhiwan, Jadeja and Rohit are not test match players overseas. Just have them in the team for matches in India.

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:07 GMT

    Nothing is going to improve unless Dhoni gets over his ego. The principal reason for playing Binny in the first place was to give some rest to the main seamers. Dhoni totally nullified that by completely ignoring Binny, at the cost of overworking the other seamers, with the sole aim that he can drop Binny the next test...The result is for all to see, Ishant out, the rest exhausted, test lost...I hope Dhoni is satisfied...

  • on July 31, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    Pankaj should be given a chance, but dhawan should be replaced definitely by Gambhir.

  • siddhartha87 on July 31, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    It's funny actually, Ishant played for years without performing. Now he took 7 wickets in an innings and got injured

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:55 GMT

    for me dhawan makes way for ashwin trying him at the opening slot it will solve indias batting and bowling to some extent

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    So how many changes in the side? Do we have suitable replacement?

  • CricketChat on July 31, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Didn't realize that Ind skipper Dhoni now has an added skill, medicine. Says he never spoke with phsyio, but determined that Ishant will 'definitely' not be fit for the next test match even though it is still 1 week ahead.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Pankaj does deserve another chance.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    Bring umesh yadav to bowling line up.Drop rohit an give a chance to ASHWIN.play with five bowlers.Umesh,bhuvi,ashwin,jaddu,shami or Ishwar pandey.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    Hope Aaron comes back into the side in place of Shami. Shami just hasn't shown up this series. Pathetic numbers from him. One more chance for Pankaj and Jadeja.Ashwin to come in place of Virat/Rohit.

  • Balladeer on July 31, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    There's a real danger of both sides being without their top seamer, then, and who knows who it will hurt more? Actually, I can answer that: the fans. Much though I'd love to see Pankaj deliver on his potential, and think that Broad/Plunkett/Stokes/Woakes/Ali (with the latter triple-underlined) would be a better attack than many give them credit for, we all want to see two full-strength sides going at each other hammer and tongs, surely?

    Best of luck to the big man on his recovery. For a chap who gets so much stick, he answered his critics in handsome style at Lord's, and despite my English allegiance I hope he can play again in the final test of five.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    I am happy that Pankaj Singh will get another opportunity. Also happy that Ishant will get more rest. Ravi Ashwin is most certainly set to play in place of Rohit Sharma.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Changes in the squad for Dhoni to consider - 1. Shami makes way for Varun Aaron. 2. Dhawan makes way for Gambhir. 3. Give Kohli a break, bring back Ashwin. Batsmen are not actually performing....The quality of batting output India gets from Dhawan & Kohli, even Bhuvi & Ashwin will deliver, with the added ability to bowl.

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  • on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Changes in the squad for Dhoni to consider - 1. Shami makes way for Varun Aaron. 2. Dhawan makes way for Gambhir. 3. Give Kohli a break, bring back Ashwin. Batsmen are not actually performing....The quality of batting output India gets from Dhawan & Kohli, even Bhuvi & Ashwin will deliver, with the added ability to bowl.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    I am happy that Pankaj Singh will get another opportunity. Also happy that Ishant will get more rest. Ravi Ashwin is most certainly set to play in place of Rohit Sharma.

  • Balladeer on July 31, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    There's a real danger of both sides being without their top seamer, then, and who knows who it will hurt more? Actually, I can answer that: the fans. Much though I'd love to see Pankaj deliver on his potential, and think that Broad/Plunkett/Stokes/Woakes/Ali (with the latter triple-underlined) would be a better attack than many give them credit for, we all want to see two full-strength sides going at each other hammer and tongs, surely?

    Best of luck to the big man on his recovery. For a chap who gets so much stick, he answered his critics in handsome style at Lord's, and despite my English allegiance I hope he can play again in the final test of five.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    Hope Aaron comes back into the side in place of Shami. Shami just hasn't shown up this series. Pathetic numbers from him. One more chance for Pankaj and Jadeja.Ashwin to come in place of Virat/Rohit.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    Bring umesh yadav to bowling line up.Drop rohit an give a chance to ASHWIN.play with five bowlers.Umesh,bhuvi,ashwin,jaddu,shami or Ishwar pandey.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Pankaj does deserve another chance.

  • CricketChat on July 31, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Didn't realize that Ind skipper Dhoni now has an added skill, medicine. Says he never spoke with phsyio, but determined that Ishant will 'definitely' not be fit for the next test match even though it is still 1 week ahead.

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    So how many changes in the side? Do we have suitable replacement?

  • on July 31, 2014, 12:55 GMT

    for me dhawan makes way for ashwin trying him at the opening slot it will solve indias batting and bowling to some extent

  • siddhartha87 on July 31, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    It's funny actually, Ishant played for years without performing. Now he took 7 wickets in an innings and got injured