Champions Trophy 2013 April 1, 2013

Australia keep probables list secret

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Cricket Australia will not disclose its list of 30 probables for the Champions Trophy in England this June, breaking the norm followed by all countries ahead of ICC tournaments. It is understood that CA approached the ICC for clarification over the rules about squad announcement and then requested that the 30-man squad, which will be pruned to 15 in a month's time, not be made public.

"Custom and practice is that countries announce their provisional squads 60 days before the first ball is scheduled to be bowled in the tournament," an ICC spokesperson said. "But this isn't compulsory."

Pakistan have already released their list of 30 probables, and other countries are expected to do so by the end of the week. Australia have been grouped with England, New Zealand and Sri Lanka, and play their first game on June 8, against the hosts.

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  • TeamRocker on April 7, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    Good decision. They should keep their choices open and reveal them as the CT comes closer.

  • Thefakebook on April 3, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (April 3, 2013, 3:55 GMT) Mate Oz have not oloss a ODI series in couple of season now.They WON the Tri series vs Two TOP SC sides SL and India.They BEAT SL in SL. They BEAT SA in SA.They Beat WI(home and away) so recent form is not that bad as well mate. @Baseball-Sucks on (April 2, 2013, 21:09 GMT) Come on mate your sanga,jaywardane,dilsans couldn't even win you the 2011 and 2012 WC in SC!!

  • jmcilhinney on April 3, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    @Thefakebook on (April 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT), I'm not quite sure where I indicated that I had forgotten any particular series but how long ago was that? Surely a series played less than a year ago would be a far better indicator of potential for the Champions Trophy than a series played almost four years ago.

  • Narbavi on April 3, 2013, 3:31 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: Best in limited overs? oh what about india then? they have been thrashing you repeatedly off late

  • Timmuh on April 2, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    Our selectors are farcical, that is hardly news. What is amazing here is that a nation other than India asked for special treatment and got it. Really, all the selectors are doing is delaying the inevitable embarrassment over their stupidity by a month. And all for a tournament that I would be quite happy to see Australia pull out of in favour of more tour games pre-Ashes. The Champions Trophy has always been a waste of time, and the only value in it got stripped once it was no longer being used solely to assist Associate and Affiliate nations. That this will be the last one is no bad thing.

  • Rowayton on April 2, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    Let's be pedantic - how can you have 30 'probables' for a 15 man squad. I can say certainly, not probably, that at least half of the 30 won't end up in the final squad, which doesn't strrike me as making them probable anythings. Thanks for the weather forecast Ashes 61 - I look forward to Cambridge MCCU v Essex in my old home town on Friday, with the winds whipping off the fens. Have the trainers done the frostbite course?

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    @Thefakebook ; It seems you've figured it all out. lol Listen pal, you have no idea what you are talking about. May be SC teams are a lil bit weaker in Tests. But when it comes to shorter format, they are the best in the business. And What do you know about SL Cricket ? SL batsmen are inexperienced ?? Have you ever heard about players like Sanga, Mahela, Dilshan ? lol or the young player called Chandimal who averages over 55 outside of sub-continent ? And you say SL bowling are weak. Have you heard about bowlers like Malinga or Kulasekara who made Aussies run for their money ? We are talking about ODI here Pal. So pls... keep your "non-expert" opinions to yourself.

  • Thefakebook on April 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (April 2, 2013, 13:35 GMT) Just after OZ lost the Ashes in England I remember a 7 match ODI series in which OZ drubbed ENG 6-1 how can you forget that mate? Hussey usually never performs in ICC Trophy except that Ajmal battering of course,2007 WC and 2009 CT he barely scored a valuable inning yet OZ won it both.And you are right mate Hughes will score in Eng condition. @dariuscorny on (April 2, 2013, 14:11 GMT) Mate look it is true that in SC other team has less chance than SC teams do,you know it too mate.Still you are right indians have stronger batting than most may be 2nd to SA only but their seam bowling is too weak. Pak and Ban I won't bet on them.Batting collapse galore here. Sl again have weak bowling and their young batsman are too inexperienced in these conditions.So I'll stick to my comment SC team will not win CT in Eng.Good on you sir.

  • dariuscorny on April 2, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    @Thefakebook mate since 20 yrs its been only a SC team which has featured in every ICC final be it in Aus,Eng,SA,Ind,SL,Pak.so hv reasonable thoughts befor commenting like this....going by your logic if an ICC events is organised in SC,then we wud be saying non SC teams hv no chance here....but its not the case...one cannot disqualify any teams challenge in ICC events.....cheers

  • ashes61 on April 2, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    Perfectly clear why AUS has held back on publicising the squad of 30. Trials aren't yet complete. Not in cricketing skills, but in climatic defence - that is, coping with the weather while trying to play cricket. They are very wise, as they're deep in their climate equipment studies & trials. If the other countires aren't also similarly engaged at present, they're making a grave error. Those living outside GB may be unaware that we're still in the grip of a very severe winter, with temps which aren't just cold but positively Siberian - and this Champions Trophy (or whatever it's called - why is this silly affair cluttering up our English season? - still, that's not my point right now) is ONLY 2 months away! Remember how WI & SL shivered recently in our cold May weather, quite understanably? Well, that was tropical compared to a winter which has now progrerssed into April & shows no signs of abating. IND, PAK, SL etc: are you practiising with skis, snowshoes & quilted anaoraks?

  • TeamRocker on April 7, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    Good decision. They should keep their choices open and reveal them as the CT comes closer.

  • Thefakebook on April 3, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (April 3, 2013, 3:55 GMT) Mate Oz have not oloss a ODI series in couple of season now.They WON the Tri series vs Two TOP SC sides SL and India.They BEAT SL in SL. They BEAT SA in SA.They Beat WI(home and away) so recent form is not that bad as well mate. @Baseball-Sucks on (April 2, 2013, 21:09 GMT) Come on mate your sanga,jaywardane,dilsans couldn't even win you the 2011 and 2012 WC in SC!!

  • jmcilhinney on April 3, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    @Thefakebook on (April 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT), I'm not quite sure where I indicated that I had forgotten any particular series but how long ago was that? Surely a series played less than a year ago would be a far better indicator of potential for the Champions Trophy than a series played almost four years ago.

  • Narbavi on April 3, 2013, 3:31 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: Best in limited overs? oh what about india then? they have been thrashing you repeatedly off late

  • Timmuh on April 2, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    Our selectors are farcical, that is hardly news. What is amazing here is that a nation other than India asked for special treatment and got it. Really, all the selectors are doing is delaying the inevitable embarrassment over their stupidity by a month. And all for a tournament that I would be quite happy to see Australia pull out of in favour of more tour games pre-Ashes. The Champions Trophy has always been a waste of time, and the only value in it got stripped once it was no longer being used solely to assist Associate and Affiliate nations. That this will be the last one is no bad thing.

  • Rowayton on April 2, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    Let's be pedantic - how can you have 30 'probables' for a 15 man squad. I can say certainly, not probably, that at least half of the 30 won't end up in the final squad, which doesn't strrike me as making them probable anythings. Thanks for the weather forecast Ashes 61 - I look forward to Cambridge MCCU v Essex in my old home town on Friday, with the winds whipping off the fens. Have the trainers done the frostbite course?

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    @Thefakebook ; It seems you've figured it all out. lol Listen pal, you have no idea what you are talking about. May be SC teams are a lil bit weaker in Tests. But when it comes to shorter format, they are the best in the business. And What do you know about SL Cricket ? SL batsmen are inexperienced ?? Have you ever heard about players like Sanga, Mahela, Dilshan ? lol or the young player called Chandimal who averages over 55 outside of sub-continent ? And you say SL bowling are weak. Have you heard about bowlers like Malinga or Kulasekara who made Aussies run for their money ? We are talking about ODI here Pal. So pls... keep your "non-expert" opinions to yourself.

  • Thefakebook on April 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (April 2, 2013, 13:35 GMT) Just after OZ lost the Ashes in England I remember a 7 match ODI series in which OZ drubbed ENG 6-1 how can you forget that mate? Hussey usually never performs in ICC Trophy except that Ajmal battering of course,2007 WC and 2009 CT he barely scored a valuable inning yet OZ won it both.And you are right mate Hughes will score in Eng condition. @dariuscorny on (April 2, 2013, 14:11 GMT) Mate look it is true that in SC other team has less chance than SC teams do,you know it too mate.Still you are right indians have stronger batting than most may be 2nd to SA only but their seam bowling is too weak. Pak and Ban I won't bet on them.Batting collapse galore here. Sl again have weak bowling and their young batsman are too inexperienced in these conditions.So I'll stick to my comment SC team will not win CT in Eng.Good on you sir.

  • dariuscorny on April 2, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    @Thefakebook mate since 20 yrs its been only a SC team which has featured in every ICC final be it in Aus,Eng,SA,Ind,SL,Pak.so hv reasonable thoughts befor commenting like this....going by your logic if an ICC events is organised in SC,then we wud be saying non SC teams hv no chance here....but its not the case...one cannot disqualify any teams challenge in ICC events.....cheers

  • ashes61 on April 2, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    Perfectly clear why AUS has held back on publicising the squad of 30. Trials aren't yet complete. Not in cricketing skills, but in climatic defence - that is, coping with the weather while trying to play cricket. They are very wise, as they're deep in their climate equipment studies & trials. If the other countires aren't also similarly engaged at present, they're making a grave error. Those living outside GB may be unaware that we're still in the grip of a very severe winter, with temps which aren't just cold but positively Siberian - and this Champions Trophy (or whatever it's called - why is this silly affair cluttering up our English season? - still, that's not my point right now) is ONLY 2 months away! Remember how WI & SL shivered recently in our cold May weather, quite understanably? Well, that was tropical compared to a winter which has now progrerssed into April & shows no signs of abating. IND, PAK, SL etc: are you practiising with skis, snowshoes & quilted anaoraks?

  • jmcilhinney on April 2, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    @Thefakebook on (April 2, 2013, 12:45 GMT), you can never write anyone off, especially in a tournament, but look at Australia's previous effort at 50-over cricket in England. That series would almost certainly have been 5-0 to England had the one game not been rained out and there are many who would not rate England as a great ODI team. Everyone was saying that that series was a glimpse of what life would be like without Mike Hussey but that reality has arrived much sooner than expected. I won't be shocked but I will be surprised if Australia make the final. That said, I guess they can take some hope from Phil Hughes' performance in the last England domestic season. His first-class performance was ordinary but he did very well in the shorter formats. Australia will be looking for him and some others to lift their game that extra notch and, in a short tournament, that may be enough.

  • on April 2, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    Past performances does not count ! It is what you have to-day that counts, and Australia seems to be hiding under the covers at the moment. Meanwhile, West Indies, South Africa and India is gleaming with delight. One of these teams along with the host, will be crowned the Championship Trophy. These are really bad times for Australian Cricket. The cupboards are bare, and there is hardly any-one around with any talent to help win this or any other tournament for a while ! Countdown to the Ashes continues, and we all know Australia will be trashed, but by how much is the question?

  • AKS286 on April 2, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Posted by Shaggy076 on (April 2, 2013, 12:16 GMT)the reason behind People thinking is Legends, retired cricketers & we never saw struggling, bullying and down Aus before- winning was the habit of Aus, So, sudden change in habit must give a valid point to comment. Aus captains are like idols of leadership but clarke also ruin that trend. Seniors are axed, no respect & non- performers are encouraged all the time but still carrying, potential players are not even in the picture. @ Fakebook Fella Indian team has the capability to score & defend big targets. indian batsmen not only having good avg but strike rate as well (this is the fact as a cricket fan i'm not Indian). NZ can surprise but can't win a tournament. Ireland is a better team than some ICC permanent ODi teams. Irish team deserves to play CT'13.

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 2, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    What this is saying is that the selectors are so humiliated by how badly the public thinks that they are doing that they don't even have faith that the probables list of 30 will be up to the standards expected, let alone the final 15 that are chosen. This is sad indeed. Of course, it could mean that there are secret names in there, such as Brad Hodge (the batsman) or Michael Hussey or even Ricky Ponting, and they don't want opposition teams to know. I suspect that it is the humiliation angle though.

  • Thefakebook on April 2, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    For all the haters here in 2009 as well you all were running your mouth that OZ will be out in group stage SA will win their 1st ICC major trophy in home condition.But yet OZ won easily undefeated while NZ kicked Eng & SA out of the tournament.The subcontinent sides didn't even had a chance in seaming conditions.Nor do they do now!I won't be shocked a bit if NZ and OZ made the final again.

  • Narbavi on April 2, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: He doens't have a slot, Watson hodge faulkner and tait are their foreign players, rahane dravid and watson play in the top 3 so where does perera fit in? And its funny that you are making fun of australia's test team despite losing to them 3-0 recently and also you were able to beat bangladesh just 1-0 in the recent test series in home soil, and how about 2011? They came to your soil and won that test series 1-0 despite having 4 or 5 players in the squad who hadn't played test cricket at all!!

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    aka286; yeah I agree there isn't a team around as the Australian team in world cups through 2001 - 2009. I just take offence at people suggesting we are one of the worse cricket teams around when our record clearly doesn't show that. I expect australia will be in the semi finals and then anything can happen from there

  • AKS286 on April 2, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    @Posted by Shaggy076 on (April 2, 2013, 11:02 GMT) Fella you take my comments wrong. I compare Clarke's Aus vs legedary Ponting's Aus. Earlier their is no need to describe the stats the fact was Aus not only won but dominantly win.On Ponting's era other teams think they can win but we know that Aus is going to win. i don't know where you agree or not but ponting's era is far far better than this clarke's Aus.

  • kingoflions on April 2, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    @Shaggy076 Sri Lanka is definitely a better ODI side than Australia. We squared the series playing away, and probably would have won in Sydney had it not been called off. Should I also remind you that SL was the runners up in the last world cup. While you were without Clarke for 3 matches, SL was without Sangakarra for the entire series. Even with Clarke however, you were at one stage 9/39. As for test matches, I think Australian fans should now know more than anybody how difficult it is to play in foreign conditions. Just like Australia would not be judged solely on their whitewash to India, SL should not be judged on a whitewash to Australia. Had it been a Sri Lanka home series, it may well have been a 3-0 whitewash to SL considering Australia lack of ability to play spin in spinning conditions.

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    AKS286 - We saw what happened in both one dayers and test around 18 months ago. Whats your point. Your right Australia cant win a knock out tournament all the time as we have only won 5 out of the last 8 major tournaments. Even T20 world cups which we have our poorest record at we have made the final and Semi Final of the last two tournaments. Our test record except for the Indian tour over the last two years has been excellent, we have only had one blip in one-day tours and that is England yet you say we continuously loose in one-day internationals and test. The funny thing as poor as you reckon we are right now, Sri Lanka would still love to have our recent success.

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Baseball sucks; Only 3 months ago we whitewashed you in a test series. Time for you to get a grip on reality. There was also a one-day series without Hussey where you were still unable to beat us and by the way Clarke missed 3 of those games as well. And that is the harsh truth. I have a grip on reality we are not as good as we used to be but we are still above Sri Lanka and will remain that way until you can beat us.

  • on April 2, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    I tell you...it would be amazing theatre if they announce 29 names and then music hits and out comes Michael Hussey!

  • on April 2, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    Whilst I agree with the sentiment of the article, I really don't that it's necessary to post aggressive comments on this site about about any team. All this "you guys are history" and "accept the hard history" is surely the province of football rather than cricket. It saddens me!

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 10:19 GMT

    @Narbavi ; Do you even pay attention to whats happening in the Cricket world ? Have you seen him bat in Aus n SL ?? RR made the smartest deal by buying him just for 20k . You will see that he opens with Rahene for RR coz he is too precious to bench. And He will be their WK too. I hope you will enjoy his explosive batting during the IPL.:)) @CricketFollowers ; Don't worry pal, I'll be here. Will you ??

  • AKS286 on April 2, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Baseball_sucks is right whatever the squad is but the fact is SL is very consistent in Odis big event. SL falls in test but not in Odis; but Aus falls in test & odis too. yes I remember the Sl test defeat by Oz but if Oz will tour SL vice versa. But unfair to talk about test in this column. Aus can win a game in knock out tournament but not all the time. in recent few years SL's record against Ind is very poor. i think Ind, SA, SL are the team in CT'13. very surprise & amazed in this column no Oz overrated , baseless optimistic fans shout "but where is khawaja".

  • CricketFollowers on April 2, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Baseball-Sucks, "Australia is HISTORY now, just like W'indies in 80's." these are laughable statement, if you watch cricket you will know why WINDIES lost the plot and that will not happen to Aus. As far as i know SL is an anemic team and lets wait and watch how they get crushed in out of the sub continent conditions be it R20,Test match or ODI. SL will not make it to the finals, mark my words. we will see the results in June. I bet you wont turn to cricinfo after that.

  • Narbavi on April 2, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: If you are a big fan of that new guy its fine, but why bring him in all of a sudden? I know about u guys, if Rajasthan Royals do well without perera you guys will keep quiet, if they don't do well then u guys will come out and say they didn't do well because they didn't include him!!

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    Mathew Share; Please Australia are not at all concerned with there one-day form and there is no way Ponting will be asked to come back. If you remember recently Watson took Australia single handedly to a T20 final. We have the following batsman all adept at playing the short game Warner, Hughes, Watson, Clarke, Voges, Bailey (back-ups in Marsh, Fergusson, Finch, D Hussey, Maxwell ( a decent short form cricketer). We have an abundance of decent one-day cricketers just lacking long form batting. For what its worth my team would be Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke (depending on fitness), Voges, Bailey, Wade, Patttinson, Starc, Johnson, Doherty or Mckay. Other back up Maxwell, Marsh and Hilfenhaus/Harris. A decent 15 man squad. Not sure why there is any need to name 30 players when only 15 are going to go.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on April 2, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    SA,England, India and Australia are the teams who have chances to be in last 4 teams. Then it will be anybody's game. SA may choke, Australia may slip to spinners even in that condition, India may not be able to defend 300 or Engalnd may be all out under 100.

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Baseball Sucks; Wow an impressive list i can see why you came on Australian side to boast about Sri Lanka. You clearly have surpassed our three worlkd cup victories and two champion troies sphince then. Also the recent Sri Lankan form against Australia where you managed a draw was a clear improvement on the previous two losses. You have every right to say we are finsihed with all those victories against us.

  • Perera32 on April 2, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    @CricketFollowers: Sorry mate, but did you just say that Sri lanka don't do well in World tournaments? Were you sleeping for the last 10 years?

  • on April 2, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    I would think this is a tactic to avoid the inevitable fallout when they do reveal the makeup of the squad; i'm guessing there might be a big omission in Watson - who i think might not have much of an international career left - and maybe some surprise inclusions... Ponting? He is the only one of the big players that could come back; Clarke burnt his bridges with Katich and Hussey. But i think this is very much damage control rather than a masterplan.

  • Coolmaq on April 2, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Oh please as if the other teams are worried about this lol

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on April 2, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    Hmmm so do they intend to keep the team a secret when they are out there playing too?

  • wrenx on April 2, 2013, 8:47 GMT

    @CricketFollowers This isn't fair, Sri Lanka have made it to the final of the last 3 global tournaments in a row, that's certainly evidence of consistent tournament performance, even if they haven't finished the job recently. England, on the other hand, don't have all that much to sing about

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 8:42 GMT

    @CricketFollowers ; Listen pal. Australia is HISTORY now, just like W'indies in 80's. LOL Since 1996, Sri Lanka have made 3 WC finals,1 WC semi, 2 T20 finals, 1 T20 semi. Is that enough for your satisfaction ? probably You don't know much about SL cricket. Your mediocre teams are no match for our young guns like Kusal Perera "The New Sanath", Thisara Perera, Chandimal, Thirimanne and Mathews let alone our legendary trio - Mahela, Sanga, Dilshan. :)) Its not the team you've seen a year before. :)) So just wait n see.. LOL

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    Moazam - CMON dont play the I dont care card, becfause if you really didnt care you wouldnt have read the article or commented on it.

  • Ms.Cricket on April 2, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    Cricket Australia did not do their homework on time.

  • Hammond on April 2, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    I think that CA doesn't even know at this point- how can they tell the world when they have no idea themselves. Old Mother Hubbard springs to mind.

  • Kapil_Choudhary on April 2, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    Can anybody please explain this to me???? I was under the idea that the ICC asks countries to name a provisional 30-member squad for marketing purposes only. We all know that the squad doesn't mean that much as a player NOT in the 30 can still be selected in the final 15 (as India once did with Sehwag). If the 30 is going to be kept secret, then it clearly can't help the ICC in marketing the event. Then, what is the point of naming the 30 itself in the first place???????????

  • gnanzcupid on April 2, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    baseball_sucks dont keep trolling here mate. this page is on australia. where does jayasurya come here?

  • wrenx on April 2, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Think this is to cover up some left-field choices that CA have made? A bowling attack of McGrath and Warne once again, and their trying to coax Hussey and Ponting out of retirement?

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 8:14 GMT

    @Narbavi ; Yeah really!!! Just wait n see. By the way, just watch how our young opener Kusal, The New jayasuriya, Perera performs in IPL. :) Then you will get the picture of our approach. :))

  • AKS286 on April 2, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Sad to see that Ireland still don't get the permanent Odi status. and in champions trophy Indians are favourite they have very strong batting line-up. indians are not having good average but the KEY factor is Strike rate. All batsmen are having strike rate of more than 85 all batsmen are Finishers too. no 5 & 6 are the position of finishers, In which Eng is having wrong man at that position (Root), i think Aus is having better finishers than bailey (most fans put him on no.6).In this champions trophy Ind & SA are favourites. White will be a good option as an opener or finisher, we saw BEER is the most effective bowler in BBL. Marsh is the player who can bat in all gear. so no.3 for him is ideal. White, Watson, Marsh, Smith, Clarke, Haddin/Handscomb(if haddin is not selected by clarke), Maxwell/Christian, MJ, Starc, Mckay, Beer.

  • ygkd on April 2, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    I would have thought that the ideal date to release the squad to the media was yesterday - April 1st.

  • CricketFollowers on April 2, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Baseball-Sucks, Yeah nice try but not good enough to convince ever your own countrymen. "And they always do well consistently in World events" are you sure about these quoted statement. As far as cricket stats shows it was Australia,West indies(till 96 WC),SA,NZ who have consistently done well when it comes to the world events. As you mentioned ENG neither SL haven't done that well in the world events please check the stats before you write. This cup might go to any country because there are no clear favourites, SA was beaten by PAK(still it favoured SA the series). So we have to wait and watch. SL ODI team(not the T20)looks like a vulnerable team when they play against SA,AUS IND & PAK. ENG have the genration players(KP.JT,MP,GS,JA) so they might or might not make it but SL dont stand a chance.

  • Stevros3 on April 2, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    I think it might mean that Ponting and Hussey have been named in the 30 man squad, but CA don't want to announce this yet as they still haven't convinced them to come out of retirement.

  • Narbavi on April 2, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: Oh really? Alright i will see you in june then during the tournament

  • Shaggy076 on April 2, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    Baseball-sucks; That is obviously your opinion yet you state it as fact even in capitals, not sure what your trying to achieve. Its an opinion like everyone else feel free to state it but in a modest way. There are a number of sides that can win.

  • Meety on April 2, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    (Cont). So my squad would be 1. Warner, 2. Watto, 3. Hughes, 5. Clarke, 5. Wade, 6. Bailey, 7. Maxwell, 8. O'Keefe, 9. Starc, 10. Harris, 11. McKay, 12th Smith, 13. Voges, 14. Johnson, 15. Henriques. I would go for SO'K over Doherty or Lyon even though the 50 over format is not his best suite. The reality is it isn't Doherty's either but he gets selected. Since Jan 2011, Doherty has had a S/R of 46 & an E/R of 4.7. The E/Rate is not bad, but I don't think it is makes up for the poor S/R for a specialist 10 over bowler. I would rather go with SO'K who can at least give us some batting ballast @ #8. I would not select Lyon as I want him tossing the ball up in Tests - not darting them thru which is what would happen if he gets belted in ODIs. Having a LH offie means that Maxwell is more complimentary @ #7 with his RH offies. Also Maxwell's fielding an brilliant batting S/R can be well used @ #7 or pinch hitting in the powerplays. I select Henriques if pitches seam instead of Maxwell!

  • BlackKnight on April 2, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    The secret is out - Australia do not have 30 players who can be named! They stuggled to find 14 players good enough to play for the India series - and you think they can find 30!

  • GeoffreysMother on April 2, 2013, 7:19 GMT

    Final side should be Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Harris, Bird, Faulkner, Johnson, Cummins, Copeland, Hilfenhaus, Clarke (Bat, Captain, Wktkeeper) -Watson 12th man - but only if he can bowl; because from what I have read Aussie fast bowlers are the answer to everything.

  • Meety on April 2, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    @ PFEL on (April 2, 2013, 6:46 GMT) - there was a deal done whereby Oz got to host the Super Test & ODI series v the Rest of the World a while back. Back then they had used the arguement that they hadn't had anything since the 91/2 World Cup. == == == Assuming no ijuries, & these days that is a big assume, the Oz side for ODI purposes should be a front runner. The top 4 should be 1. Warner, 2. Watson, 3. Hughes, 4. Clarke & that would statistically match or better every other team in batting. IF (big IF), Watto is 100% right to bat & BOWL, the Oz side then gains perfect balance for English conditions. The pace attack (on stats) SHOULD be Harris, Starc & McKay. All those bowlers have S/Rates that place them amongst the best ever. I would look at SO'K at #8, but it'll probably be Doherty. The middle order is the hardest part to select. I would have Wade @5, then either Voges or Bailey @#6, then Maxwell or Smith #7. TBC

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 2, 2013, 6:58 GMT

    @Narbavi ; Whether you like it or not isn't an issue. But that's how its gonna unfold. Only SRI LANKA and ENGLAND have the flare n talent to go thru it all the way. Sri Lanka is the most successful visiting team in England having won 7 out of last 10 ODI's. And they always do well consistently in World events. We have records back it up. And ENGLAND will surely make it to the final as well having gained the home advantage. So Its gonna be a SRI LANKA vs ENGLAND final. And the better team will lift the cup. Just wait n see :))

  • PFEL on April 2, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    In the entire time I've been following cricket (13-14 years), England has hosted the Champions trophy 2 or 3 times as I recall. In that time Australia has never hosted it, or hosted the World Cup or T20 world cup now that I think of it. In that period of time every other country has hosted 3 or 4 major tournaments, while Australia has hosted 0 . . . what on earth is going on with that??

  • AKS286 on April 2, 2013, 6:40 GMT

    The credit goes to Clarke for downfall of Australian cricket in test as well as in Odis. instead of who's in or who's out they have to find a smart captain or wait for Clarke's retirement. Under the regime of legendary Ponting the attitude, mindset, body language, confidence & morale were too high. now only few seniors are left in the team (in & out) check out their style & confidence when ponting was captain example- Watson & MJ. Watson was the game changer at any condition & MJ was the leader of Aus pace bowling. Now haddin & MJ are the replacement of overrated flop mediocre rookie players. I think if shane warne did't retire then he is also becomes the replacement of LYON , Doherty.

  • RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on April 2, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    ideal team for australia: finch, watson, shaun marsh, clarke, bailey, steve smith, haddin, faulkner, starc, harris , lyon

  • zach91 on April 2, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    the starting eleven i would make for the ashes is warner, rogers, Hughes, Clarke, d.hussey, Watson(as long as he can bowl), haddin, o'keefe, siddle, pattinson, bird with the rest of the squad being: batsman: cowan, khawaja. wicketkeeper: hartley (hes not the best batsman, but atleast he can catch unlike paine and wade). seamers: starc, Harris, faulkner. spinner: Lyon. there are a few players they could take a risk on like Bailey, s.marsh and ahmed but there is a question mark over there fitness and true form going into the ashe for the longest format.

  • Udendra on April 2, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    yeah, like that would make any difference!

  • vnotz on April 2, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    I think australia do not have a list of 30 players to announce(quality enough to play for australia) and that explains these gimmick shows by the selectors. Otherwise i do not see any reason why the list should be kept a secret!!

  • on April 2, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    actually, australia has nothing to show. really. sorry state of affairs. what else to say.

  • zenboomerang on April 2, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    With Clarke still recovering from hamstring / lower back injuries there are doubts about his inclusion for the CT which precedes the Eng series - there are also a couple of other players returning from injuries that will be assessed over the next 4 weeks... I'm not sure it helps fringe players being dropped at the last minute - rather they were selected as a "B" squad & they can work out where they're at themselves...

  • on April 2, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    ohh God australia is not going to disclose its 30 men squad...this is so scary...they are surely going to win the champions trophy by doing this...lolx...noone cares about that...and one thing to add..no one cares about ashes aswell as the australians and english think..me for 1 dont care a tiny weenie bit about who wins the ashes..both are mediocre teams..

  • Clyde on April 2, 2013, 4:18 GMT

    I am sure the Champions Trophy is a kind of cricket and it might be worth it for a Test player to use it as practice.

  • vj_gooner on April 2, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    I prefer a one-legged Haddin over Wade. And I really hope Maxwell doesn't get anywhere close to the team.

  • on April 2, 2013, 4:08 GMT

    this is the only way they can get anyone excited about the trophy in Australia

  • hycIass on April 2, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    I like your squad Mary. You may be very close to what we will have.

  • PrasPunter on April 2, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    Don't care unless it is an Ashes contest !! Love to fast-forward to July 10 !! Bring it on !! Love to see the red-cherry darting around !!

  • landl47 on April 2, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    An undisclosed source has indicated that the problem lies in the balance of the squad. The board members were asked to name those they thought deserved to be in the squad. When they went through the list, they found they had 5 batsmen, 2 wicketkeepers, 1 spinner and 22 seamers.

  • Narbavi on April 2, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: That's what i call as over optimistic, one half of your prediction might be true, england might make the final, but there is no chance of the other half happening, so don't worry

  • Narbavi on April 2, 2013, 3:36 GMT

    @Theekshana Perera : They are in the same group as yours, lets see if you can back up your words by defeating them

  • on April 2, 2013, 3:20 GMT

    i think the squad of 15 should be Watson, warner, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, haddin, faulkner,Johnson, starc, mckay, ahmed, Harris, pattinson, Maxwell and d.hussey but we all know that the selectors wont pick that 15 cos they will be preserving players for the ashes or they will be looking for players that will be around for the next world cup...

  • Ravendark on April 2, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    It suggests there are some on that list that might cause some controversy. Someone old? Someone new?

  • on April 2, 2013, 2:59 GMT

    look I dont think anyone cares bout ur 30 probables... coz u guys got no chance even in ya own group.. btw wots so special with wade n maxwell... both of em r failing n keep em playing over n over doesnt do any good... haddin is da best gloveman in the country n followed by paine... wade is no where near to their records ... their only qualification is pup loves playing them... poor australia...!!!

  • Dave1970 on April 2, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    I fully understand why the selection team has kept the names of the players quiet. With so much negative comments floating about it is shielding the squad so that they can concentrate on making a solid team free of the negativity. I am sure those they will be negative about this process will continue regardless.

  • Wefinishthis on April 2, 2013, 2:03 GMT

    Doesn't matter, no-one cares about the soon-to-be-defunct Champions Trophy and Australia won't win it anyway. Why bother keeping it a secret?

  • Edwards_Anderson on April 2, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    My squad for champions trophy 1 Warner 2 Watson 3 Hughes 4 Clarke 5 Voges 6 Bailey 7 Khawaja 8 Faulkner 9 Starc 10 Mckay 11 Doherty 12 Johnson 13 S.Marsh 14 Finch 15 Henriques16 Maxwell

  • farkin on April 2, 2013, 1:50 GMT

    good move by ca to stop the fans of other countries putting in there bad 2 cent worth

  • Redemption94 on April 2, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    My Final XI against England on june 8 1. Warner 2. Watson 3. Hughes (WK) 4. Clarke 5. Voges 6.Bailey 7. Maxwell 8. Faulkner 9. Starc 10. Mckay 11. Pattinson

    Australia i think will win the competition since it is not on any subcontinent pitches and australia will be number one.

  • Chris_P on April 2, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    The whole episode of naming 30 payers when half of them had no chance of being selected has always been a joke. From all reports here, the selectors have their final squad, so couldn't see the logic of naming the ones who missed out. Finally, a spark of intelligence from a board!

  • hmmmmm... on April 2, 2013, 0:38 GMT

    as long as maxwell is nowhere near it, I'll be happy!

  • Dashgar on April 1, 2013, 23:15 GMT

    You'd assume it'd be a similar team to the one that beat Windies and SL. Warner, Finch, Hughes,Clarke, Bailey, Wade, Maxwell, Faulkner, Starc, Cutting, McKay

  • Shaggy076 on April 1, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    Wow so many negative people out there. Really what meaning does a squad of 30 have, it has no significance. Can anyone ever remember the 15 blokes that were selected in the initial 30 to be overlooked for the last 15 in the last champions trophy. So why make a fuss. In the end you are always going to have a few blokes that are never going to make the squad of 15 and you need to name them for ego effect, what happens to player 31, 32 etc. It is a joke that any nation has to name a squad of 30.;

  • chicko1983 on April 1, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    Watson, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, Smith, Haddin, Maxwell, MJ, Starc, Pattinson

  • handyandy on April 1, 2013, 21:47 GMT

    Having witnessed the disasters of India I would be tempted to split up the one day players and test players.

    For example Smith, Hughes, Khawaga and any other player that might be expected to play a role in the test team would be excluded from selection for the Champions team. It would be a none to subtle message that I would want these players to perfect their batting techniques for the longer form of the game rather than the hit and giggle variety.

  • handyandy on April 1, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    Why would a list of 30 players be a secret?

    Perhaps they can't find 30 players worth considering for selection.

  • on April 1, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    Does this show lack of confidence by the Aussies.

  • Batmanian on April 1, 2013, 21:12 GMT

    Who cares about ODIs? How long is the Ashes shortlist? Seventy?

  • gmoturu on April 1, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    its going to be a tough tour for Aussies. their bowling might be good but batting is their biggest concern. I wish to see Poms winning this 5-0 even though it is highly unlikely.

  • AKS286 on April 1, 2013, 19:37 GMT

    My team will be- White, Watson, Marsh, Smith, Clarke, Haddin, Maxwell, MJ, Starc, Mckay, Beer. I think Smith must be captain in Odis & T20.

  • on April 1, 2013, 19:08 GMT

    Negative move by CA ,and it will yield negative results ,but then again ,CA has done such a great job so far , who knows?? ;)

  • on April 1, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    Squad for champions trophy 1 Warner 2 Watson 3 Hughes [wk] 4 Clarke 5 Voges 6 Bailey 7 Maxwell 8 Faulkner 9 Starc 10 Mckay 11 Doherty 12 Johnson 13 S.Marsh 14 Finch 15 Richardson 16 Henriques

  • on April 1, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    Quiney should be in final 15

  • on April 1, 2013, 18:41 GMT

    Early June in England? Worried about a Leg-Spinner - dream on. Unless something dramatic happens 5 seamers plus Watson.

    As it is, noone will really be watching - just awaiting the proper cricket to start. Clarke to get a nice long rest until June and then score a shed load of runs in the Ashes series, but the other 10 in general don't appear at present to pose too great a threat BASED ON CURRENT FORM.

  • AKS286 on April 1, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    This time a good thing is going happen(Hope so) the 30 players are selected by ACB without the interference of Arthur & clarke.So. clarke can't go with his favourite flop boys.

  • on April 1, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    Anything to do with rushing through that Pakistani legspinners visa y'think?

  • naz139 on April 1, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    They are struggling to find 11 decent players to start the game! Let alone provide a list of 30! Maybe they are trying to convince ex cricketers out retirement! desperate times call for desperate measure!

  • xylo on April 1, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    I hope they included Glenn Maxwell! ;-)

  • on April 1, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    Possibly not 30 decent players in Aus?

  • D-Train on April 1, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    I don't see what the issue is. At least 10-15 blokes in the squad are just making up the numbers and are no realistic chance of making the tour.

  • Baseball-Sucks on April 1, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    No matter who they select, Champions Trophy Final is gonna be ENG vs SL . And the better team on that day will lift the Trophy. So don't bother.....

  • jmcilhinney on April 1, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    This is rather odd but I don't really see it as a big deal either way. If it's not compulsory to provide the list and the final 15 is not limited to being selected from that list then I'm not sure why anyone bothers.

  • vigneshvinu on April 1, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    squad for champions trophy

    1. Warner 2. Watson 3. Hughes 4. Bailey 5. Clarke 6. Smith 7. Henhriques 8. Wade 9. Johnson 10. Starc 11. Doherty 12. Christian 13. Faulkner 14. S.Marsh 15. Cummins

  • vigneshvinu on April 1, 2013, 17:21 GMT

    These is not a typical Aussie statement,They are known for their aggressive but it is missing now...

  • Thefakebook on April 1, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    I'll announce the final 15 right now 1.Waner 2.Watson 3.CLARKE 4.Hughes 5.Bailey 6.Voges 7.Wade 8.Faulkner 9.Starc 10.Patto 11.Xavier 12.Smith 13.Maxwell(I don't know why either) 14.Usman(just as a tourist) 15.Henriques. A better team would be 1.Warner 2.Watson 3.CLARKE 4. 5.Bailey 6.D Hussey(but Smith is going to get his place) 7.Paine 8.SNJ O'Keefe 9.Faulkner 10.Patto 11.Pat Cummins 12.Starc 13.M.Marsh 14.Burns 11.Xavier(he is really good 50 overs bowler remember the how he forced the great Jayawardene to get himself stumped last year and a economy of just 5.8 awesome).

  • blink182alex on April 1, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Interesting decision by CA, maybe it's because they want to wait and see how some of the people go in the IPL, although i hope that's not the case.

    I imagine this will be the 15:

    Batters: Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, Voges, (S.Marsh if Clarke inj) WK: Wade All Rounders: Maxwell, Faulkner Spin: Doherty Seam: McKay, Johnson, Pattinson, Starc (if fit), Cutting

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    I did'nt understand yet the strategy of Ausie's selectors that why thay do not select Fergosen for & Marsh in the Test squad.I think coach did not want Cricket Australia to be number one.Shame on coach.

  • riverlime on April 1, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    If it isn't compulsory, then NONE of the teams should release a list of the players. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. For that matter, even if some team-sheets are given to the ICC, they should only release the names of the players when ALL the teams are submitted. This would minimise the tactical advantage of planning your team according to the opponents weaknesses, something I suspect Aus are trying to do.

  • ThatsJustCricket on April 1, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    Well well well, how about that!!! Aus cant even figure out who their best 30 are, let alone best 15

  • prakashlk on April 1, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    Aussies are unable to select a proper team, so they wanted to keep it secret...

  • RiyanV on April 1, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    What's up with the Aussies?? Releasing their playing 11 early for the India test, but not releasing their squad at all for the Champion's Trophy..

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    australia ashes squad should be: 1.warner 2.watson 3.hughes 4.clarke 5.khawaja 6.smith 7.paine 8.siddle 9.harris 10.pattinson 11.lyon 12.cowan 13.burns 14.haddin 15.starc 16.bird 17.okeefe 18.faulkner

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    australia 'A' squad for uk tour should be: 1.silk 2.cowan 3. doolan 4.smith 5.fergusson 6.m.marsh 7.paine 8.okeefe 9.cummins 10.sayers 11.bird 12.butterworth 13.sandhu 14.s.marsh 15.maddinson

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    australia odi squad for champions trophy should be: 1.warner 2.watson 3.hughes 4.clarke 5.bailey 6.wade 7.maxwell 8.faulkner 9.starc 10.harris 11.lyon 12.voges 13.pattinson 14.haddin 15.henriques

  • Narbavi on April 1, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    Big deal, i have always considered this probables list as a piece of joke, it doesn't make sense when u can pick a guy in the final 15 even if he isn't part of that 30 man probable squad!! In that case then what's the point of having a 30 man probable squad?

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  • Narbavi on April 1, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    Big deal, i have always considered this probables list as a piece of joke, it doesn't make sense when u can pick a guy in the final 15 even if he isn't part of that 30 man probable squad!! In that case then what's the point of having a 30 man probable squad?

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    australia odi squad for champions trophy should be: 1.warner 2.watson 3.hughes 4.clarke 5.bailey 6.wade 7.maxwell 8.faulkner 9.starc 10.harris 11.lyon 12.voges 13.pattinson 14.haddin 15.henriques

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    australia 'A' squad for uk tour should be: 1.silk 2.cowan 3. doolan 4.smith 5.fergusson 6.m.marsh 7.paine 8.okeefe 9.cummins 10.sayers 11.bird 12.butterworth 13.sandhu 14.s.marsh 15.maddinson

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    australia ashes squad should be: 1.warner 2.watson 3.hughes 4.clarke 5.khawaja 6.smith 7.paine 8.siddle 9.harris 10.pattinson 11.lyon 12.cowan 13.burns 14.haddin 15.starc 16.bird 17.okeefe 18.faulkner

  • RiyanV on April 1, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    What's up with the Aussies?? Releasing their playing 11 early for the India test, but not releasing their squad at all for the Champion's Trophy..

  • prakashlk on April 1, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    Aussies are unable to select a proper team, so they wanted to keep it secret...

  • ThatsJustCricket on April 1, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    Well well well, how about that!!! Aus cant even figure out who their best 30 are, let alone best 15

  • riverlime on April 1, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    If it isn't compulsory, then NONE of the teams should release a list of the players. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. For that matter, even if some team-sheets are given to the ICC, they should only release the names of the players when ALL the teams are submitted. This would minimise the tactical advantage of planning your team according to the opponents weaknesses, something I suspect Aus are trying to do.

  • on April 1, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    I did'nt understand yet the strategy of Ausie's selectors that why thay do not select Fergosen for & Marsh in the Test squad.I think coach did not want Cricket Australia to be number one.Shame on coach.

  • blink182alex on April 1, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Interesting decision by CA, maybe it's because they want to wait and see how some of the people go in the IPL, although i hope that's not the case.

    I imagine this will be the 15:

    Batters: Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, Voges, (S.Marsh if Clarke inj) WK: Wade All Rounders: Maxwell, Faulkner Spin: Doherty Seam: McKay, Johnson, Pattinson, Starc (if fit), Cutting