Australia v NZ, Champions Trophy, Group A, Edgbaston June 11, 2013

Shaky Australia in trans-Tasman clash

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Match facts

Wednesday, June 12, Edgbaston
Start time 1030 (0930 GMT)

Big Picture

At the last Champions Trophy, Australia beat New Zealand in the final to secure their second consecutive title. This year, the two teams meet with Australia's tournament all but on the line. A loss in their opening match against England has left the Australians vulnerable and should they lose to New Zealand, they would not only have to beat Sri Lanka next Monday but they would also need England to lose their remaining two matches to have any hope of scraping through to the semi-finals. Even then, it would come down to net run-rate. Should New Zealand win their progression is not certain, although it would take a similarly intricate series of results for them to miss out to England and Sri Lanka on net run-rate. An Australian victory would keep things fairly even throughout the group.

However, the Australians will need to overcome New Zealand without their captain Michael Clarke, who has been ruled out due to a back injury that has plagued him since he arrived in England. The more significant long-term worry will be his availability for the Ashes which follow after. David Warner is a real concern as well, having scored ducks in the two warm-up matches, followed by 9 against England. New Zealand's cordon will be well advised to be on high alert early in Warner's innings, given the way he has been slashing and edging of late.

New Zealand also have an injury concern around a senior player, with Daniel Vettori likely to miss out having had a saline injection in his troublesome left Achilles tendon. "You only have to look at him. He's limping and is a bit ginger walking around the field," the New Zealand fast bowler, Kyle Mills, said on Monday. "He's been doing it since his teenage years at this level and his body is tired. He shows tremendous toughness and hopefully he can rise to the occasion for these next games to get us over the line. He looked jovial getting his toast and cereal at breakfast this morning, but there's obviously a lot of discomfort."

Form guide

(most recent first, last five completed games)

New Zealand: WLWWL
Australia: LWWWW

Watch out for...

Less than five years ago, Luke Ronchi made his debut for Australia against West Indies. During that series he scored a 22-ball half-century, the fourth fastest ODI fifty by an Australia player. Now he is about to line up against his former country for the first time, having qualified for his birth nation of New Zealand earlier this year. Ronchi's initial forays into the New Zealand side have brought few runs, but against familiar Australian bowlers, he will be keen to prove that he can be a long-term force at the top of the order.

Since George Bailey made his ODI debut in March last year, only Ian Bell and Tillakaratne Dilshan have scored more one-day international runs than his 819 at an average of 45.50. During the one-day series in England last year, Bailey was the one shining light in Australia's batting order and again during their loss to Alastair Cook's men on Saturday he was the top scorer with 55. Bailey is a capable stand-in captain and a reliable presence in the middle order, but he needs significantly greater support if Australia are to progress to the next stage of this tournament.

Team news

If Vettori is put on ice, New Zealand would likely bring in Colin Munro or Grant Elliott, although Elliott's availability would also depend on how well he has recovered from a calf injury.

New Zealand (possible) 1 Martin Guptill, 2 Luke Ronchi (wk), 3 Kane Williamson, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 James Franklin, 6 Brendon McCullum (capt), 7 Colin Munro / Grant Elliott, 8 Nathan McCullum, 9 Tim Southee, 10 Kyle Mills, 11 Mitchell McClenaghan.

Clarke will again miss out, but Australia have a few backup options in the batting department, unless they want to give Glenn Maxwell a go in place of fellow allrounder Mitchell Marsh. Xavier Doherty might also come under consideration, although the potential for rain on Wednesday could discourage the selectors from bringing him in.

Australia (possible) 1 Shane Watson, 2 David Warner, 3 Phillip Hughes, 4 George Bailey (capt), 5 Adam Voges, 6 Mitchell Marsh / Glenn Maxwell, 7 Matthew Wade (wk), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Mitchell Starc / Xavier Doherty, 11 Clint McKay.

Pitch and conditions

Both matches at Edgbaston so far have been won with relative comfort by the team batting first, for scoring appears to become tougher as the matches wear on. There is some rain expected around the Birmingham region on Wednesday and the forecast is for a high of 17°C.

Stats and trivia

  • Kyle Mills will be the outright leading wicket-taker in Champions Trophy history if he claims one more victim. Prior to this match, he stands equal with Muttiah Muralitharan on 24 wickets

  • New Zealand and Australia have not met in a one-day international since the 2011 World Cup

  • Australia have not lost to New Zealand in a world tournament since the 1999 World Cup

Quotes

"All their top order will be feeling the heat a little bit to not only win the game but also hold their spot in the team. If we can take advantage of that I'm sure it will bode well for us in those pressure situations."
Kyle Mills, New Zealand fast bowler

"If it continues to be dry, we need to consider a spinner. We need to get the balance right. We need to get partnerships going."
Australia's captain George Bailey after the loss to England

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on June 11, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    Both teams are evenly matched and you can't pick a clear winner here. NZ have a very decent bowling attack which has been performing well. Batting seems a bit of a worry after nearly losing to SL in the previous match. The batters did really well against England in the ODI series, though. Guptill, Taylor, Williamson and McCullum need to step up.

    Australia did not play well against England and batting is also a concern for them. The only players you can actually rely on are Bailey and Watson (Clarke won't be playing). They have a strong pace attack and a lot will depend on how McKay, Johnson and Starc perform tomorrow. The spinners can come in handy but I don't see them doing too much damage.

  • liz1558 on June 12, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    @ Front-Foot-Lunge - agreed. I would go further - this looks like the equal worst Australia team - with the 1985 lot - to tour England. As long as the weather holds, England should retain the Ashes 4/5-0. A far cry from the every-man-a-prize-fighting-champ team of 2001 that annihilated a pretty good England side.

  • Syed.Baqar on June 12, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    well.............. the "Oracle" has spoken already............ Australia wins today but the final will be between India and England and Of Course india will win...... not to forget............. India WILL defeat Pakistan in the upcoming match as well............ well played BCCI :) Mark my words people and instead of wasting time ......lets just work in our offices! lol

  • brusselslion on June 12, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    @jonesy2 on (June 12, 2013, 5:35 GMT): I assume that your list of excuses is now almost exhausted? (Resorting to complaining about the English summer!! Welcome aboard; you join 60m locals!).

    Anyway, I do think that you have a point: What with India preparing 'doctored' weather earlier this year and England doing the same now, cricket has turned into a farce. We all know that given the right weather conditions (23.91745333c; humidity 59.12999%) the current Australia side(s) are the finest that have ever lived.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on June 12, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    So what's your point @jonesy2? Aus. just came over to cool down? Didn't bring enough woolly jumpers with them?

    Australia's best bowler (Clint McKay) is in the team, so it looks as if they do care and want to try and do well. But then again, they do insist on neglecting a wicket-keeper and spinners and decent batsmen, so maybe you're right...

  • Sunman81 on June 12, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Looks like Aussies have a forced change with Warner and this could prove be a blessing in disguise for them... Replacing him with Maxwell will also give them a bowling option... I think this will be a close contest... Could be watson's day!

  • on June 12, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    LOL!! The Black Caps (as that is the team's name) have an INNATE (not inept, lol) ability to put the opposition under pressure... and Ronchi's ability to get runs will only aid us (NZ) in the sense that, hitherto, he hasn't got any and we still have gone alright. So if he does get runs, we should amass or chase a reasonable total....

    Now that that is out of the way... the match, as far as the Black Caps are concerned, revolves around the performances of NZ's big three with the bat (Guptill, Taylor, McCullum), whilst a good 50 from Williamson in support of them would be a huge bonus. Then, with the ball, NZ actually have a very handy (on their day) pace attack of McClenaghan, Mills and Southee.

    For Australia, it is Watson who, versus NZ, seems to lead the way for them when they win.... so cheap scores from Watson and Warner (and perhaps, but unlikely, a rare failure from Bailey) will go a long way to ensuring a Kiwi vistory. Go the true underdogs... go the Black Caps!! 8-)

  • Otuwa on June 12, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    Now Aussie team is looks like the Lion without teeth.Remember old stars like Gilly,Hayden,Ponting,Martyn,Symonds,Hussey,Lehman,Bevan,Warne,Lee,Mcgrath,Gillespe.OMG what a team that was.

  • Rick_T on June 12, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    Prakhar Jain - While it may not exactly be a "do or die" situation for Australia, it is pretty close. If NZ win today, the following things have to happen for AUS to make the semis. Firstly, NZ must beat ENG (for simplicity, let's say 50% chance). Also, AUS must beat SRI (again, let's say 50%). Also, SRI must beat ENG (say 50% again). So 50% x 50% x 50% = 12.5% just to be equal with SRI & ENG. Then, only 1 of the 3 would make the semis so 12.5% x 33.3% = 4.17%. In other words, if AUS lose today, I would want odds of at least 23:1 (96.8 : 4.2) to consider backing them to make the semis. Or, if you put $100 on them, you would get $2,400 back. Not impossible but pretty close to do or die.

  • Suresh123456 on June 12, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    @ Hammond ... thats brilliant buddy.. how did u calculate and arrive at at 37.3 % ( such a precision ooops) ... kindly elaborate and enlighten poor soul like me..

  • on June 11, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    Both teams are evenly matched and you can't pick a clear winner here. NZ have a very decent bowling attack which has been performing well. Batting seems a bit of a worry after nearly losing to SL in the previous match. The batters did really well against England in the ODI series, though. Guptill, Taylor, Williamson and McCullum need to step up.

    Australia did not play well against England and batting is also a concern for them. The only players you can actually rely on are Bailey and Watson (Clarke won't be playing). They have a strong pace attack and a lot will depend on how McKay, Johnson and Starc perform tomorrow. The spinners can come in handy but I don't see them doing too much damage.

  • liz1558 on June 12, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    @ Front-Foot-Lunge - agreed. I would go further - this looks like the equal worst Australia team - with the 1985 lot - to tour England. As long as the weather holds, England should retain the Ashes 4/5-0. A far cry from the every-man-a-prize-fighting-champ team of 2001 that annihilated a pretty good England side.

  • Syed.Baqar on June 12, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    well.............. the "Oracle" has spoken already............ Australia wins today but the final will be between India and England and Of Course india will win...... not to forget............. India WILL defeat Pakistan in the upcoming match as well............ well played BCCI :) Mark my words people and instead of wasting time ......lets just work in our offices! lol

  • brusselslion on June 12, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    @jonesy2 on (June 12, 2013, 5:35 GMT): I assume that your list of excuses is now almost exhausted? (Resorting to complaining about the English summer!! Welcome aboard; you join 60m locals!).

    Anyway, I do think that you have a point: What with India preparing 'doctored' weather earlier this year and England doing the same now, cricket has turned into a farce. We all know that given the right weather conditions (23.91745333c; humidity 59.12999%) the current Australia side(s) are the finest that have ever lived.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on June 12, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    So what's your point @jonesy2? Aus. just came over to cool down? Didn't bring enough woolly jumpers with them?

    Australia's best bowler (Clint McKay) is in the team, so it looks as if they do care and want to try and do well. But then again, they do insist on neglecting a wicket-keeper and spinners and decent batsmen, so maybe you're right...

  • Sunman81 on June 12, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Looks like Aussies have a forced change with Warner and this could prove be a blessing in disguise for them... Replacing him with Maxwell will also give them a bowling option... I think this will be a close contest... Could be watson's day!

  • on June 12, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    LOL!! The Black Caps (as that is the team's name) have an INNATE (not inept, lol) ability to put the opposition under pressure... and Ronchi's ability to get runs will only aid us (NZ) in the sense that, hitherto, he hasn't got any and we still have gone alright. So if he does get runs, we should amass or chase a reasonable total....

    Now that that is out of the way... the match, as far as the Black Caps are concerned, revolves around the performances of NZ's big three with the bat (Guptill, Taylor, McCullum), whilst a good 50 from Williamson in support of them would be a huge bonus. Then, with the ball, NZ actually have a very handy (on their day) pace attack of McClenaghan, Mills and Southee.

    For Australia, it is Watson who, versus NZ, seems to lead the way for them when they win.... so cheap scores from Watson and Warner (and perhaps, but unlikely, a rare failure from Bailey) will go a long way to ensuring a Kiwi vistory. Go the true underdogs... go the Black Caps!! 8-)

  • Otuwa on June 12, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    Now Aussie team is looks like the Lion without teeth.Remember old stars like Gilly,Hayden,Ponting,Martyn,Symonds,Hussey,Lehman,Bevan,Warne,Lee,Mcgrath,Gillespe.OMG what a team that was.

  • Rick_T on June 12, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    Prakhar Jain - While it may not exactly be a "do or die" situation for Australia, it is pretty close. If NZ win today, the following things have to happen for AUS to make the semis. Firstly, NZ must beat ENG (for simplicity, let's say 50% chance). Also, AUS must beat SRI (again, let's say 50%). Also, SRI must beat ENG (say 50% again). So 50% x 50% x 50% = 12.5% just to be equal with SRI & ENG. Then, only 1 of the 3 would make the semis so 12.5% x 33.3% = 4.17%. In other words, if AUS lose today, I would want odds of at least 23:1 (96.8 : 4.2) to consider backing them to make the semis. Or, if you put $100 on them, you would get $2,400 back. Not impossible but pretty close to do or die.

  • Suresh123456 on June 12, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    @ Hammond ... thats brilliant buddy.. how did u calculate and arrive at at 37.3 % ( such a precision ooops) ... kindly elaborate and enlighten poor soul like me..

  • hrit on June 12, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    New Zealand need to overcome their batting vows. Australian import Luke Ronchi will be raring to show the aussies that he did deserve a place in the AUS XI few years back. Guptill and McCullums are the only once showing a bit of form but the others need to bat around them. I hope NZ use their DRS challenge carefully unlike the last time against SL. Talking of the Aussies , their batting vows are way more than NZ at the moment. Warner needs to put his hands up and perform where as batters like Bailey and Wade need to bat up the order. Both the teams have good bowling but it will be the better batting side which will win today for sure!!

  • Biggus on June 12, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    On current form you'd have to back the Kiwis, but there's always the chance that one of Watson, Warner or Hughes will fire and make a big score and if Vettori is left out, as has been suggested, that will be a big help for us given the number of our players who tend to get bogged down against spin. Whether we win or not is, I suspect, rather academic since our inconsistancy ATM suggests we're unlikely to string enough good games together to press seriously for the title. Stranger things have happened in what is so often an unpredictable game but I wouldn't be betting on it. I'm not too worried about it to be honest since it's all part of the ebb and flow of partaking in international competition. Between '77 and '87 we were pretty weak too and in the end, after basically rebuilding from scratch we went on to one of our best periods ever. I'm more concerned about who's going to captain us in tests when Clarke's back finally goes for good, and I can't see anyone worthy yet.

  • koushik2412 on June 12, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    come on kiwis chase the kangroos out!surrender to the indian tigers in the semis.

  • on June 12, 2013, 6:50 GMT

    New Zealand though has won the match against Lanka but not comprehensively, they always take pressure from the Aussies. moreover they are coming from two series wins with the very big hearts. but still i think Aussies will make it through. history tells us whenever the Australians are sent to the tight corner, they emerge as victorious. Today is the day for David Warner and Watson to prove, with bailey the caption to lead from the front. if Australia bowls first they should not allow kiwis to go cross then 250, and what ever the pitch condition is , they will make it with ease. and if they bat first they will score more than 300. best of luck to both the teams.

  • reddawn1975 on June 12, 2013, 6:41 GMT

    Australia could be so much better than what we have on the field here.A couple of lads from the Australian A side should be in this team.There are 5 people in this team that are struggling Hughes,Wade,, Maxwell(waste of a player not up to standard yet),,Doherty,,,,,And Dave Warner needs to get some runs he looks very very ordinary at the moment there are some very good player just not getting picked Shaun Marsh ? young Agar can play ,,,Pattison Siddle ,,,Khawaja

  • jonesy2 on June 12, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    if Australia cared about this tournament at all then they would win it but they care more about the fact that its only 17 degrees in England in "summer".

  • Jordanious77 on June 12, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    NZ are looking like a deffinate top 3 team at the moment, arguably even the best on current form. But however good they look, they're still NZ.. Too many times in the past have the Black Caps shown amazing promise to only dip when they look like winning. Lose their form and their heads with it.

    NZ play an aggressive game, look to score quickly from the outset and instantly put the bowlers under pressure. So far in the last few series this has worked a charm! Putting pressure on world class players. Causing players like Anderson to have a meltdown and Steyn to breakdown in anger. The Blackcaps have an inept ability to styfle the opposition and put them under pressure.

    They also have an ability to get themselves out, play all around the ball and make strokes that would make Zimbabwe shake their heads in disbelief.

    Australia however are making the whole world cringe!

    This match will be decided with Australias bat. Can they put NZ under enough pressure to get in the kiwis heads?

  • deep6321 on June 12, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Australia Please drop Maxwell and bring in a specialist batsman. i would prefer Shaun Marsh. After Michael Clarke if there is anyone who is a class batsman ,he is shaun marsh. He surely deserves a place in playing 11. I think CA is just wasting is talent. And where is the Pat cummins. Bring him in ....

    A good current generation australian team can be:- S watson,Dave warner,P hughes ,s Marsh,G Bailey,M Clarke, Wade, johnson,cummins,pattinson,any spinner in australia (because all of them are not of international level)

  • kiwicricketnut on June 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    @ hammond, you are clearly a very funny person, i cracked up reading your comment, i failed maths at school so im going with your prediction. @ nzforever agree with you mate how good would it be to have anderson come out at number 7, an aggressive bat who couldn't possibly do any worse than franklin and is a genuine left arm medium quick who you could rely on for ten overs, he is clearly the future for allrounders in nz. with the guys weve got there though this would be my XI ronchi, guptill, williamson, taylor, b.mccullum, munro,n.mccullum, vettori, southee, mills, mcclenaghan. no more chances for franklin.

  • bramville on June 12, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    Having seen all the matches this far, this is going to be India's Champions Trophy. Not one of the other teams are playing to their potential and going by their present form there is no team in the competition that can beat India. England look to be the only worthy team of playing the Indians in the final. The current Auss team is one of the worst to come to a Champions Trophy, Warner, Watson look jaded and the pup is injured. Bailey is doing nothing as a captain. NZ look to have the upper hand. Probable semi final line up will be Ind vs NZ or Aus and Eng Vs SA.

  • jmcilhinney on June 12, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    I'd give NZ the edge on recent form but it only takes one good performance to swing a match and both teams have players capable of doing that. It would be a bitter pill for Australia to swallow if they were to be beaten by their two biggest cricketing rivals - England and NZ - on the trot so I think that they'll be extra keen to avoid that. By the same token, NZ will be keen to build on their good form of late to score a win over their greatest rival. All up, it should be a hard fought game at least.

  • deep6321 on June 12, 2013, 4:19 GMT

    dalboy12 : "Watson is a class player". @dalboy12 I seriously doubt your above statement. If anything watson is ,that is arrogant. He has been with the Australian team with almost 12 years now.And I have not seen a single test match inning which shows his class. In fact he has only one shot , and that is is slog sweep .that's it ..that's how classy he is....

  • deep6321 on June 12, 2013, 4:02 GMT

    NZ definitely has the upper hand. Their bowling is particularly well. Maclenaghan, southee,mills are all good ODI bowlers. NZ will definitely win this match..

  • Nuwas on June 12, 2013, 3:36 GMT

    EVEN STEVENS ............. still wanna see AUS win this for open competition in the group. ENG might wann offer a seaming pithch for this game considering Aussies better seaming line-up than NZ.So might be the case for the match ENGvsSL tommorrow, but they might wanna rethink over it, because they sure don't wanna face Kula with two new balls under seaming&swinging conditions. On the other hand they cant afford to give NZ such a pitch as well for ENGvsNZ game. I'm pretty sure both ENG & SL must be praying for Aussies to win today's game for some sort of comfort on both sides :D so its 3 against 1 team today on the part of prayers & wishes :P

  • AhmedEsat on June 12, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    Based on current form, New Zealand should win this. They also have a history of playing above themselves against Australia.

  • gibbs.175 on June 12, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    AUS can do this......both side has equal batting power...but newzeland bowling attack can make the difference,,,,,let 's see....

  • nitewatchman_zzz on June 12, 2013, 1:25 GMT

    Quite likely Australia won't win a game in this competition having already lost to the next weakest team in the group.

  • Hammond on June 12, 2013, 1:22 GMT

    I give Australia 37.3% chance of winning this game.

  • yuvi_gladiator on June 12, 2013, 1:09 GMT

    if Aus can play some attacking cricket and somehow beat NZ, then they will be the most dangerous side in the tournament. Aus strength has always been their aggressive attitude and the confidence. So its all about getting that confidence back. just get this one and they will be hard to stop. Nz are one of my fav sides in the tournament and have played some good cricket but there are couple of players (williamson a big liability since he wastes so many deliveries getting in and then gets out everytime, franklin well we all know, Elliot not good enough) who are just in the side to make up the numbers. will be interesting to watch out for Ronchi as he will know some of the Aussie bowlers really well

  • deb78 on June 12, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    i feel N C Nile should get a look in ...he is an impact player..also Maxwell must open Warner to bat down...

  • Meety on June 12, 2013, 0:36 GMT

    The Black Caps are almost the favouites in a Trans Tasman clash for the first time in a long, long time. No complaints - but I am surprised at how sub-continantal the pitches have been so far, to a certain extent negating the new ball more than I expected. Some one in the Green & Gold needs to step up, on paper, Oz are far better credentialled than NZ, but the Kiwis have made a better fist of their time in the UK. Oz to win, but still dusty, but this will be the launch of their CT defense!

  • balajik1968 on June 12, 2013, 0:31 GMT

    On form you have to back New Zealand, but Australia have been very successful against NZ and may just find something extra. Having said that, this is one of the poorest Aussie side in recent times. There used to be a definite touch of class in previous Aussie teams. Maybe these guys will finally start putting things together.

  • SameOld on June 12, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    @Waseef - Agreed, except on the matter of spinners. Their input will be vital, either way. NZ remain highly vulnerable to quality spin bowling, especially their best, form batsmen in Guptill & Taylor. Get those two wickets for less than 50 each, and NZ might struggle to post 200.

    On the flipside, Kane could go for 80 or take 8/8. No way to know which, if either, will happen. He bowls in a fashion that batsmen seem to feel must be hit, and if a set, confident Watson walks past KW's first ball instead of hitting it for six, it may be the game won and lost right there.

    All that's assuming that the opening bowlers of either or both sides don't run through the opposition in 12-15 overs, which is another possibility with these bowlers, and these batsmen.

    Random thought: Will it come down to which Mitch is superior? Does that hand the advantage to AUS if they play both Mitchells?

  • on June 11, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    i never thought i would say this, it is the fact that current ausee team is in the stage of the indian team of few years back, and current indian team is in the stage of the aussee team of few years back. Proud fully by an indian fan

  • dalboy12 on June 11, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    NZ could win this --- just really need at least two batsman to really stand-up. I don't buy into this Aussie is a weak team thing, I'm always nervous when we play them cos if Warner or Johnson decide to have a good day then it is game over for any team playing them. Watson is a class player. NZ can't just rely on Guptil, the other batsman need to stand up especially McCullum. But then of course the weather may just beat both teams.

  • nzforever on June 11, 2013, 22:35 GMT

    The-Stoat, sadly Elliott is out injured which means we will be stuck with Franklin yet again which is a sham. Not convinced about Munro yet might be worth a punt on Butler or even Bracewell. Just wish the selectors had the guts to have picked Neeshan/Anderson originally rather than Franklin/Munro.

  • grh on June 11, 2013, 21:48 GMT

    The way the two teams have fared against England is a pretty good indicator of form. Plus NZ have had 3 extra competitive games over here before the CT. I don't think anyone should be surprised if Australia lose all 3 games in this group the other three win 2 each, and fight it out on run rate.

  • on June 11, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    Bring Glenn Maxwell in place of Marsh. .batting order for NZ match

  • on June 11, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    its not a do or die situation for australia. if newzealand wins its all 3 matches and australia,srilanka and england won 1 match each. then it will be a tie for 2nd place and it will be decided by net run rate.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on June 11, 2013, 20:37 GMT

    Australia are one of the worst sides in any form of cricket at the moment, and no one will be at all surprised if they lose here. But both teams have a tendency to collapse so who knows, but win or lose here Australia are in one great big shambles. The top 6 needs serious restructuring, and a keeper/batsman and spinner need finding. The trouble is Aus have spent over 5 years of looking for thse key elements, the elements that make up an international standard team which is capable of competing with the top sides in world. They're still looking.

  • Htc-Android on June 11, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    @Narbavi. Oh really. Have you forgotten the 74 allout against us in their home ground?

  • fah4 on June 11, 2013, 19:34 GMT

    Australia's only chance to win is if Watson perform with the bat. If he fails I don't see them doing against the New Zealand bowling. For Kiwis they must drop Franklin they can manage with Williamson and other part timers.Another good inning from Guptill will seal them a spot in semis.Don't expect a thriller though.

  • on June 11, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    @Narbavi: The current Australian team cannot steamroller anyone, unless they play against the USA at Perth. If they do manage a win in this tournament, it will be a lot of scrapping from them plus a bad day for the opposition. Man to man, they are easily the weakest team in the competition

  • on June 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    I do feel a little sorry for George Bailey, who seems to get a bit of stick merely for not being as good as Clarke - even though his record in ODIs so far has been very commendable. Who else would Australians rather lead them?

    David Warner looks like a man trying to bat his way out of quicksand at the moment, I still like Watson as a batting all-rounder although his attitude over the last few months has been bizarre, Hughes has a good one-day record thus far although I would still advise that there are better Australian batsmen out there somewhere with better all-round techniques than him. I still think Wade needs replacing as I think he is a far better Test batsman than wicketkeeper. Faulkner looks highly promising. And what's going on with their refugee leg-spinner? Is he playing at some point?

  • on June 11, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    plzzz bring maxwell in place of marsh.......batting ordr for nz match-

    1.s watson 2.p hughes(as to secure him frm nz spin attack hahaha) 3.d warner 4.g bailey(capt) 5.a voges 6.j faulkner 7.g maxwell 8.m wade(wk*) 9.m starc 10.m johnson 11.c mckay

  • CricketingStargazer on June 11, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Although New Zealand only scraped (or scrapped) past Sri Lanka, that is a better result than losing and, especially, being well-beaten. It's not often you would say that New Zealand are favourites in the Trans-Tasman derby, but their attack looks better suited to the conditions than Australia's and the batting, despite its struggles to finish off Sri Lanka, looks to have more fire power than Australia's, particularly if the ball is coming onto the bat, which it will from Australia's faster bowlers.

    So far the pitches have favoured bowlers who are naggingly accurate rather than those who try to use outright pace, especially inaccurately: no one can accuse New Zealand of attacking with high pace, but their bowlers have been singularly effective by keeping things tight; this is likely to be their trump card.

    Australia can win, but they need to do everything right and for New Zealand to have another off-day.

  • RahulHariharan on June 11, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    Aussies are best in these situations.Remember 1999WC !!! but lot of difference in the team!!! What about a change in the batting order with Watson and Hughes opening.. Bailey , Voges , Warner,Wade,Marsh/Maxwell,Faulkner,Johnson,Mckay and doherty or Wade and Watson opening with Hughes at 3 and Warner at 6..Good luck Aussies..

  • Narbavi on June 11, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    Like i already said, if Australia can manage to win tomorrow then they will make it to the semis by steamrolling past Srilanka!!

  • dunger.bob on June 11, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    If Australia lose this match I will eat my hat. I have been a bit critical of them recently but they will be too much for the Kiwi's to handle. .. so many of them are due some runs and there is a lot of pent up frustration there. .. I predict one or two of the Aussies will really cut loose (Watson, 145 n.o) and the bowlers will go to work with relish. .. it will be a reminder to the rest of the cricket world we may be a bit sick, but we're not actually dead ... on the down side I keep looking at the number 6 spot. .. Seriously, M.Marsh or The Big Showoff. They are our choices to bat at no. 6 for Australia in a must win match at an international tournament? To be honest, it makes me shiver to think this is what it's come to. .. all the same good luck to whoever gets the nod. .. play well and don't forget some runs/wickets would be very, very handy. .. Also, give Doherty a run for gods sake. He's a pretty effective bowler most days and a spin option is essential for variety.

  • landl47 on June 11, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    McKay, Johnson and Faulkner all bowled well against England. Those three plus Doherty and Maxwell to take the pace off the ball would seem to be Aus's best bowling line-up. Marsh looked out of his depth against England with both bat and ball. If Watson can chip in with a few overs Aus won't be in bad shape with the ball.

    Batting is another matter. A couple in the top 6 need to fire and put together a decent partnership. There weren't many signs of that against England where only Bailey looked to have the stomach for a fight. Still, it's another day and another game, so who knows?

    NZ just scraped home against SL and were well beaten by England when England selected the right side, so they can't be over-confident. They've been playing well and will want to lock up their place in the semis before meeting England.

    A good game in prospect- too close to call.

  • The-Stoat on June 11, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Surely New Zealand should rest Franklin, he's had a strenuous workload recently of not bowling and only batting for a few minutes each game. Hopefully the team will be: Guptill, Ronchi, Williamson, Taylor, B McCullum, Munro, Elliott, N McCullum, Southee, Mills, McClenaghan. Between Williamson and Elliott we have a fifth bowler, I fail to see Franklin doing better than them.

  • AKS286 on June 11, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    If Clarke wil play then Cricinfo possible team will like this- 1 Shane Watson, 2 David Warner, 3 Phillip Hughes, 4 George Bailey (capt), 5 Adam Voges, 6M.Clarke (c), 7 Matthew Wade (wk), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson/ Xavier Doherty, 10 Mitchell Starc, 11 Clint McKay.

  • AKS286 on June 11, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    If Clarke wil play then Cricinfo possible team will like this- 1 Shane Watson, 2 David Warner, 3 Phillip Hughes, 4 George Bailey (capt), 5 Adam Voges, 6M.Clarke (c), 7 Matthew Wade (wk), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson/ Xavier Doherty, 10 Mitchell Starc, 11 Clint McKay.

  • The-Stoat on June 11, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Surely New Zealand should rest Franklin, he's had a strenuous workload recently of not bowling and only batting for a few minutes each game. Hopefully the team will be: Guptill, Ronchi, Williamson, Taylor, B McCullum, Munro, Elliott, N McCullum, Southee, Mills, McClenaghan. Between Williamson and Elliott we have a fifth bowler, I fail to see Franklin doing better than them.

  • landl47 on June 11, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    McKay, Johnson and Faulkner all bowled well against England. Those three plus Doherty and Maxwell to take the pace off the ball would seem to be Aus's best bowling line-up. Marsh looked out of his depth against England with both bat and ball. If Watson can chip in with a few overs Aus won't be in bad shape with the ball.

    Batting is another matter. A couple in the top 6 need to fire and put together a decent partnership. There weren't many signs of that against England where only Bailey looked to have the stomach for a fight. Still, it's another day and another game, so who knows?

    NZ just scraped home against SL and were well beaten by England when England selected the right side, so they can't be over-confident. They've been playing well and will want to lock up their place in the semis before meeting England.

    A good game in prospect- too close to call.

  • dunger.bob on June 11, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    If Australia lose this match I will eat my hat. I have been a bit critical of them recently but they will be too much for the Kiwi's to handle. .. so many of them are due some runs and there is a lot of pent up frustration there. .. I predict one or two of the Aussies will really cut loose (Watson, 145 n.o) and the bowlers will go to work with relish. .. it will be a reminder to the rest of the cricket world we may be a bit sick, but we're not actually dead ... on the down side I keep looking at the number 6 spot. .. Seriously, M.Marsh or The Big Showoff. They are our choices to bat at no. 6 for Australia in a must win match at an international tournament? To be honest, it makes me shiver to think this is what it's come to. .. all the same good luck to whoever gets the nod. .. play well and don't forget some runs/wickets would be very, very handy. .. Also, give Doherty a run for gods sake. He's a pretty effective bowler most days and a spin option is essential for variety.

  • Narbavi on June 11, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    Like i already said, if Australia can manage to win tomorrow then they will make it to the semis by steamrolling past Srilanka!!

  • RahulHariharan on June 11, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    Aussies are best in these situations.Remember 1999WC !!! but lot of difference in the team!!! What about a change in the batting order with Watson and Hughes opening.. Bailey , Voges , Warner,Wade,Marsh/Maxwell,Faulkner,Johnson,Mckay and doherty or Wade and Watson opening with Hughes at 3 and Warner at 6..Good luck Aussies..

  • CricketingStargazer on June 11, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Although New Zealand only scraped (or scrapped) past Sri Lanka, that is a better result than losing and, especially, being well-beaten. It's not often you would say that New Zealand are favourites in the Trans-Tasman derby, but their attack looks better suited to the conditions than Australia's and the batting, despite its struggles to finish off Sri Lanka, looks to have more fire power than Australia's, particularly if the ball is coming onto the bat, which it will from Australia's faster bowlers.

    So far the pitches have favoured bowlers who are naggingly accurate rather than those who try to use outright pace, especially inaccurately: no one can accuse New Zealand of attacking with high pace, but their bowlers have been singularly effective by keeping things tight; this is likely to be their trump card.

    Australia can win, but they need to do everything right and for New Zealand to have another off-day.

  • on June 11, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    plzzz bring maxwell in place of marsh.......batting ordr for nz match-

    1.s watson 2.p hughes(as to secure him frm nz spin attack hahaha) 3.d warner 4.g bailey(capt) 5.a voges 6.j faulkner 7.g maxwell 8.m wade(wk*) 9.m starc 10.m johnson 11.c mckay

  • on June 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    I do feel a little sorry for George Bailey, who seems to get a bit of stick merely for not being as good as Clarke - even though his record in ODIs so far has been very commendable. Who else would Australians rather lead them?

    David Warner looks like a man trying to bat his way out of quicksand at the moment, I still like Watson as a batting all-rounder although his attitude over the last few months has been bizarre, Hughes has a good one-day record thus far although I would still advise that there are better Australian batsmen out there somewhere with better all-round techniques than him. I still think Wade needs replacing as I think he is a far better Test batsman than wicketkeeper. Faulkner looks highly promising. And what's going on with their refugee leg-spinner? Is he playing at some point?

  • on June 11, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    @Narbavi: The current Australian team cannot steamroller anyone, unless they play against the USA at Perth. If they do manage a win in this tournament, it will be a lot of scrapping from them plus a bad day for the opposition. Man to man, they are easily the weakest team in the competition