England v India, World T20 2012, Group A, Colombo September 23, 2012

Sharma and spinners destroy England

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India 170 for 4 (Sharma 55*) beat England 80 (Harbhajan 4-12, Chawla 2-13) by 90 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

The result may not have great significance in this World Twenty20 but India could take heart, confidence and bragging rights after an overwhelming victory over England in their Group A game in Colombo. England's confidence, meanwhile, must have been crushed after a defeat that can only be described as humiliating.

Both teams had already qualified for the Super Eight stage of the tournament and this result made no difference to the opposition they will face in those games. But, by inflicting such a resounding defeat on the reigning champions and No. 1-rated T20I side, India underlined the impression they have the personnel to challenge anyone in this competition.

India, despite resting three members of their first choice side, won by 90 runs with England's enduring fallibility against spin bowling exposed in brutal fashion once again. Bear in mind that these two teams face each other in a four-Test series in India in the coming months and alarm bells will surely be ringing at Lord's.

England's first error was to misread the pitch. While India included two specialist spinners, England dropped Samit Patel to make way for the extra seam option of Tim Bresnan. Their ploy of testing the India batsmen with short deliveries was met with a series of cut and pulls that suggested either that England's bowlers - Steven Finn apart - lack the pace for such a ploy, or that, in these conditions anyway, the reputation of Indian batsmen as flat-track bullies has been greatly exaggerated. The truth probably lies somewhere between the two conclusions.

But the defining feature of this match was England's inability to combat spin bowling. India's two frontline spinners claimed six wickets for 25 runs in eight overs as England collapsed from 39 for 2 to 60 for 9. At that stage, England were in danger of being dismissed for the lowest T20I score - beating the 67 by Kenya against Ireland - before a last-wicket stand of 20 prevented that one indignity. Still, England's final total of 80 was their lowest in T20Is, surpassing the 88 they managed against West Indies at The Oval in 2011. The margin of defeat is also the largest, in terms of runs, England have suffered in T20Is and the largest victory inflicted by India.

England were struggling even before the introduction of spin. Set 171 to win, a total some way above par on a pitch that was just a little slower than anticipated and did not allow England any time to settle in, they lost Alex Hales in the first over, bowled by inswing as he attempted to heave one over the leg side, before Luke Wright fell in the third over, attempting to pull a delivery too full for the stroke.

It was MS Dhoni's decision to introduce the spin of Harbhajan Singh in the Powerplay that precipitated England's decline. Harbhajan, playing his first international game for more than a year, produced a wicket maiden to start - Eoin Morgan was bowled by a quicker arm-ball as he made room to cut - before Bresnan top-edged a sweep, Jos Buttler gave himself room but missed and Graeme Swann skipped down the wicket and missed a doosra. Harbhajan finished with 4 for 12, the best figures by an Indian bowler in T20Is.

Piyush Chawla also enjoyed England's clueless batting. Jonny Bairstow, reading the googly as if it were in Greek, missed a slog-sweep, while Craig Kieswetter, his foot nowhere near the pitch of the ball, was undone by a legbreak and edged to slip. It was, by any standards, a dreadful performance with the bat.

Earlier Rohit Sharma helped India plunder 51 from the final four overs of the innings after it appeared they had squandered a decent start. Sharma, who has endured some miserable form in recent times, produced a powerful innings of 55 in 33 balls to lead India to 170 for 4 in their 20 overs.

While a partnership of 57 in 7.5 overs between Virat Kohli and Gautam Gambhir had built India a strong platform of 80 for 1 after 10 overs, a tight spell of bowling from Swann arrested their progress. Kohli, in particular, looked in sparkling form. He got off the mark with consecutive boundaries through the covers: the first a gorgeous, front-foot drive off Finn; the second a punch off the back foot off Stuart Broad. Bresnan's attempts to intimidate him with the short ball were met by an upper cut and then a pull for boundaries.

Gambhir lost little by comparison. He took successive boundaries off Jade Dernbach in the second over of the innings, first pulling a long-hop through midwicket before guiding a wider ball to point, while throwing his hands whenever offered any width and crashing boundaries through point off Finn and Broad.

Kohli gave one desperately difficult chance. On 25 he came down the wicket and, with that characteristic flick of the wrist, cracked Broad over midwicket where a leaping Swann could only get his fingertips on the ball as it raced to the boundary.

Swann was the one man to apply some control for England. Coming on after the six Powerplay overs had realised 52 runs for the loss of one wicket, his four overs conceded just 17 runs and produced the key wicket of Kohli who, beaten in the flight, lofted his attempted on-drive to deep midwicket.

It might have been better for Swann. Had wicketkeeper Kieswetter been able to gather cleanly, Gambhir might have been stumped on 26 with the score on 80 for 1. The batsman, deceived in the flight, was drawn down the wicket and stranded when Swann beat him but Kieswetter could only deflect the ball and allowed India to steal a bye.

Still, Swann's spell and the wicket of Kohli slowed India's run rate. From the halfway stage of the innings they were able to add only 39 from the next six overs as Broad shuffled his bowlers - England's captain bowled his four overs in four separate spells - to good effect.

The final four overs of the India innings brought 51 runs, however. First Rohit Sharma gave himself some room and dabbed a short ball from Broad over the vacant first slip area to the boundary before, next delivery, he took advantage of the short fine leg to pull another short delivery behind square to the boundary. In all the over cost 13.

It signalled the acceleration from India. Dhoni punished a full toss from Dernbach through the covers, before Sharma hit two more full tosses - one from Bresnan the other from Dernbach - for four and six to third man and point respectively. Sharma brought up his 50 - from just 31 balls - with a sweep off another full toss from Dernbach.

While Dhoni was brilliantly caught in the final over - Buttler, on the boundary, took the catch but, feeling himself falling over the boundary, threw the ball to Hales who completed the dismissal - the damage had been done. England's bowlers, who contributed eight wides and a plethora of full tosses and short balls, might not attract the criticism of their batting colleagues, but they were little more impressive.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    @Meety, contd. Regarding bowlers, you will get no argument from me. Aus has perhaps the best emerging fast bowlers in Pattinson/Starc/Cummins. However, you seriously believe that without an excellent spinner, on Indian pitches those bowlers will be too effective against Indian batsmen ? Maybe, that IPL experience that you said might help a lot, you know in the shorter versions- ODIs and T-20s. Good Luck to your team though, imo they will need it badly ;-).

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    @Meety, thanks for replying, sorry i got busy so couldnt reply earlier. IMO, you know,you did raise a valid point but I dont think,that IPL T-20 experience you said,are going to matter much when it comes to tests. Though that will certainly help the players to get better acclimatise to the conditions/climate quickly.In your comment,you did say 10 years,but just for argument's sake,you know,that Steve Waugh's team that visited here back in 2001,that team has some of the best players of spin that Australian cricket has ever had imo,but even that team was unable to decipher the spin of Bhajji,who was still a rookie bowler back then,infact our main spinner Kumble was injured in that series.Now,even with all the ipl experience i dont think today's Aus team can play better against spin compared to Waugh's team of 2001,and Indian team today is certainly better,infact a lot better than that of 2001,especially when it comes to spinners.

  • POSTED BY thebarmyarmy on | September 26, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    We ended up in the group Id rather England be in so not all is bad :)

  • POSTED BY rohitrainakohli on | September 26, 2012, 5:28 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS forget it ENGLAND you dont have the power to play against spin!atleast now ENGLAND should be happy they have lost in a group match not in super 8's with a huge margin

  • POSTED BY Joby_George on | September 26, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    For Match against Pakistan, India should definitely play Sehwag. Pakistani bowlers feras him the most.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | September 26, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    @Ajmith Thazhayhappadathhywhatevery - on (September 25 2012, 10:57 AM GMT) - mate, I was TRYING to have a good natured conversation with a bloke. You have just lowered the standard. I DID say that I expect Kohli to have a great series, & I DID say that I am wary of the TURBANATOR. That all being said, I am still very confident that we can win the series. I think Lyon is a better spinner than Hauritz, (you may not rate him, but I do), & Clarke handles spinners as captain, much better than Punter did (post Warne). I think we are more experienced in India than in previous years. "...we Indians always need either an Aussie or English team to bring out the best in us." - the LAST 2 letters need to be changed to VVS. No VVS, (sad but had to happen), is of great relief to Ozzys - I rate Pujarra highly, but do not rate Raina & think SRT is diminishing in value, much like Sehwag. In broad terms, (IMO), Oz are rising, India falling.

  • POSTED BY Mike_Tyson on | September 25, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    Well played to India, Eng have a lot of young players, many of whom probably haven't played on the subcontinent much. They will get better. Must say the constant jibing by fans is really annoying. This result will have no bearing on the test series later on. India have some fine players coming through the ranks and Eng have some very good players who will come back into the test side. As for this tournament, anyone of the eight teams can still win it.

  • POSTED BY Electric_L0ser_Wacko on | September 25, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    @ alikhan224 - just one question for you - when was the last time pakistan won a INTERNATIONAL GAME against India ????? Man - you have to be nuts to be gloating about our teams head to head contests - when we have thrashed your team in your own backyard - TWICE yes TWICE in back to back Test series and ODI series in 2004 and 2007 - remember Multan ??? or have you conveniently forgotten that?? ... when was the last time your team won a Test series in India - 1986/87 ? 25 years ago !!! that is one generation - Virat Kohli was not even born then... and i bet Afridi was still 25 though :) :).. get real mate!!

  • POSTED BY lets_move_forward on | September 25, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    @alikhan take ANY DATE for your so called 10 (for you I took 12 years) year period and you are on losing side, mine shows 25 Sep 2000 to 25 sept 2012 , that we won 19 and lost 17!!? you have never ever recovered in that 12 years, and you just conveniently gave just enough old date to look yourself winning!!?

  • POSTED BY lets_move_forward on | September 25, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    @Alikhan224 btw ours may not be extremely good against Australia and SA but Pakistanis have far worse record against these team for the same time period, plus I hope you saw the time frame of 10 years (take 12 lets say 25 sep 2000 to 25 sep 2012) what does your team's record say against India (did you thrash us?) it will turn out that WE HAVE THRASHED YOU!

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    @Meety, contd. Regarding bowlers, you will get no argument from me. Aus has perhaps the best emerging fast bowlers in Pattinson/Starc/Cummins. However, you seriously believe that without an excellent spinner, on Indian pitches those bowlers will be too effective against Indian batsmen ? Maybe, that IPL experience that you said might help a lot, you know in the shorter versions- ODIs and T-20s. Good Luck to your team though, imo they will need it badly ;-).

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 26, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    @Meety, thanks for replying, sorry i got busy so couldnt reply earlier. IMO, you know,you did raise a valid point but I dont think,that IPL T-20 experience you said,are going to matter much when it comes to tests. Though that will certainly help the players to get better acclimatise to the conditions/climate quickly.In your comment,you did say 10 years,but just for argument's sake,you know,that Steve Waugh's team that visited here back in 2001,that team has some of the best players of spin that Australian cricket has ever had imo,but even that team was unable to decipher the spin of Bhajji,who was still a rookie bowler back then,infact our main spinner Kumble was injured in that series.Now,even with all the ipl experience i dont think today's Aus team can play better against spin compared to Waugh's team of 2001,and Indian team today is certainly better,infact a lot better than that of 2001,especially when it comes to spinners.

  • POSTED BY thebarmyarmy on | September 26, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    We ended up in the group Id rather England be in so not all is bad :)

  • POSTED BY rohitrainakohli on | September 26, 2012, 5:28 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS forget it ENGLAND you dont have the power to play against spin!atleast now ENGLAND should be happy they have lost in a group match not in super 8's with a huge margin

  • POSTED BY Joby_George on | September 26, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    For Match against Pakistan, India should definitely play Sehwag. Pakistani bowlers feras him the most.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | September 26, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    @Ajmith Thazhayhappadathhywhatevery - on (September 25 2012, 10:57 AM GMT) - mate, I was TRYING to have a good natured conversation with a bloke. You have just lowered the standard. I DID say that I expect Kohli to have a great series, & I DID say that I am wary of the TURBANATOR. That all being said, I am still very confident that we can win the series. I think Lyon is a better spinner than Hauritz, (you may not rate him, but I do), & Clarke handles spinners as captain, much better than Punter did (post Warne). I think we are more experienced in India than in previous years. "...we Indians always need either an Aussie or English team to bring out the best in us." - the LAST 2 letters need to be changed to VVS. No VVS, (sad but had to happen), is of great relief to Ozzys - I rate Pujarra highly, but do not rate Raina & think SRT is diminishing in value, much like Sehwag. In broad terms, (IMO), Oz are rising, India falling.

  • POSTED BY Mike_Tyson on | September 25, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    Well played to India, Eng have a lot of young players, many of whom probably haven't played on the subcontinent much. They will get better. Must say the constant jibing by fans is really annoying. This result will have no bearing on the test series later on. India have some fine players coming through the ranks and Eng have some very good players who will come back into the test side. As for this tournament, anyone of the eight teams can still win it.

  • POSTED BY Electric_L0ser_Wacko on | September 25, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    @ alikhan224 - just one question for you - when was the last time pakistan won a INTERNATIONAL GAME against India ????? Man - you have to be nuts to be gloating about our teams head to head contests - when we have thrashed your team in your own backyard - TWICE yes TWICE in back to back Test series and ODI series in 2004 and 2007 - remember Multan ??? or have you conveniently forgotten that?? ... when was the last time your team won a Test series in India - 1986/87 ? 25 years ago !!! that is one generation - Virat Kohli was not even born then... and i bet Afridi was still 25 though :) :).. get real mate!!

  • POSTED BY lets_move_forward on | September 25, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    @alikhan take ANY DATE for your so called 10 (for you I took 12 years) year period and you are on losing side, mine shows 25 Sep 2000 to 25 sept 2012 , that we won 19 and lost 17!!? you have never ever recovered in that 12 years, and you just conveniently gave just enough old date to look yourself winning!!?

  • POSTED BY lets_move_forward on | September 25, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    @Alikhan224 btw ours may not be extremely good against Australia and SA but Pakistanis have far worse record against these team for the same time period, plus I hope you saw the time frame of 10 years (take 12 lets say 25 sep 2000 to 25 sep 2012) what does your team's record say against India (did you thrash us?) it will turn out that WE HAVE THRASHED YOU!

  • POSTED BY SoulTaker on | September 25, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    @alikhan224: The results for last 10 yrs or so from 2000 to 2012 (Test/T20/Oneday) total matches played between Ind and Pak is 56 and Ind and Pak won 25 each, Tied -1 and Drawn - 5. I wonder how you call this as a Thrashing.

  • POSTED BY on | September 25, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    @RandyOZ I believe ranking 9 and some time at 10 speak well of a Minnow team!!

  • POSTED BY alikhan224 on | September 25, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    @Yogesh Gupta ...i hope now u would have got the answer that pak has better record even in the last 10 yrs...just search for it and let me know...pak 22,ind 21 with 1 match abandoned...who is better than since 2000 till 2012??grow up dude, otherwise u will always be dreaming like this.

  • POSTED BY on | September 25, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    @Meety, Team India may miss the experience brought in by Dravid n VVS. But, please keep in mind the fact that the youngsters Kohli, Pujara and Rohit Sharma are no little talented. And, we Indians always need either an Aussie or English team to bring out the best in us. There is nothing to be concerned about the spin department. Just 2 flighted turning balls beating the bat makes Aussie n English batters panic, and will bat as if they r playing somewhere on Mars. We are, in fact worried the pace department. Zak is worn out, Sharma is unable to produce wicket taking deliveries, and Yadav's high frequency in straying his lines are our concerns. Dont be surprised if Sreesanth or Irfan makes into the test team.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | September 25, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    @RandyOZ. I can see your fear in between the lines. :P Do you predict a cake walk for Australia in the next match? I think you will not repeat your U19 blunder again!

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | September 25, 2012, 8:14 GMT

    This really was a battle of the minnows wasn't it.

  • POSTED BY on | September 25, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    @alikhan224 : the problem with you pakistanis is that you are so obsesses with your overall record against us , while i agree overall we have lost more often but you can't consider the records created 20 years back today .. and if you see the records in last 10 year or so , you will find india has done reasonably well against all top teams. So please broaden your mind and talk some sense.In last ten years or so , india has won more matches against pakistan.please go and search cricinfo stats

  • POSTED BY on | September 25, 2012, 7:47 GMT

    @sl_4ever.. you have big dreams mate:)

  • POSTED BY Meety on | September 25, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    @recycle-bin-is-empty on (September 25 2012, 03:49 AM GMT) - btw, I also have a feeling that Kholi (whilst I don't particularly like him), will have massive series against Oz & England, (feel it in me bones!)

  • POSTED BY Meety on | September 25, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    @recycle-bin-is-empty on (September 25 2012, 03:49 AM GMT - I am actually more confident of this Ozzy side winning in India next year, than at any stage in the last 10 yrs. (Yes, 10 yrs including the Warne/McGrath era, although they almost never played at the same time in a test series). One of the biggest hurdles Oz cricketers had in the past, was never playing in India before a series. With the IPL, we will have players very experienced in India. The last test series was 2nil to your mob, but unless you are completely biased, you would have to say that coming into the 4th innings of BOTH tests, it was neck & neck. I think Oz are better side NOW, then the last time under Punter, AND I think India are weakner now then 2yrs ago. I say that I think India are weaker now, primarily due to their bating minus Dravid & VVS, but also due to their lack of spin options. I do concede a fit & looping Turbanator does concern me as an Ozzy, but I don't rate Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY alikhan224 on | September 25, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    @rahulcricket007...can u pls tell me the record between ind vs s.a, ind vs aus and ind vs pakistan...all these 3 teams have thrashed u in every format and have better record in all the 3 formats..so wake up and stop dreaming.

  • POSTED BY sam_screaming on | September 25, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    guys.... super 8 teams are yet to be decided. There is a match today. If bangladesh can stun pakistan then it might me australia, India, SA and Bang in same group. I know bangladesh is weaker than pakistan in every department but still upsets can happen on any given day.

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 25, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    @Marcio "I have no doubt the current English team would beat Australia 99 times out of 100 in all conditions." common mate, u know that I didnt mean that literally. But what i did mean however is that England is a lot better team in today's era compared to Aus. Even their ODI performance, unlike in the past has improved considerably. As for the debate about India, Australia and England, wanna ask you seriously, you even read my enitre previous post ??? Mate, if you really or anyone really want to discuss over that, then I m for it but in a logical and sensible way. Just want to repeat again, our 0-8 loss was terrible last year, yes a big yes, and all credit to Eng and Aus, and I wont even attempt to argue over that. But judging a team's performance by taking such a short period of 6 months time is plain wrong. And bdw, you know it yourself, that both Eng and Aus fate arent going to be much different when they will tour India later this year :).

  • POSTED BY on | September 25, 2012, 2:25 GMT

    If team india is keep on rely on spinners only, then that could be a big problem. Asian countries like Pakistan and Srilanka are capable of handling spins. Hope the fast bowlers and seamers also should perform good. I will say if there are no good spinners on the match against Afganistan then they would have won the match....

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 25, 2012, 1:04 GMT

    This is proof that the Indian team can do much better without Sehwag and 10dulkar. Those two never perform when team India needs them. Case in point - World Cup 2011 final. When our bowlers, led by Zaheer Khan, restricted Sri Lanka to a manageable total, what do these so-called Gods of cricket do? Sehwag gets out first ball, while 10dulkar lasts barely 5 overs. So much for Sehwag's explosive start and 10dulkar's brilliant batting! It was the youngsters - Gambhir and Kohli who stabilized Indian innings. Dhoni rose to the occasion and finished the job.

  • POSTED BY kc69 on | September 24, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    @Mel_Vin:England lost to a Rank 3 team(not 7) now...ha ha ha

  • POSTED BY Vilander on | September 24, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    @ FreddyForPrimeMinister , there are only 11 players playing the game fella..it does not matter how big the country is..what matters is how many people can afford to play the game. Dont belittle India.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    Champions are always hated by the rest of the world. Its quite natural. Some so fans still getting hurt by wc final loss:)

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 21:23 GMT

    T20 is does not at all determine what sort of team you are common guys we all know what kind of a team England are and them being bowled out for 80 does n't prove nothing because it was recently Pakistan got bowled out to a similar score. The good thing is that after this tournament there won't be as much T20 played Internationally at least.

  • POSTED BY premclement on | September 24, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    @Extemespeed, did you check the venues for just India or other teams such as Australia or Srilanka or WI for that matter? Please do because Australia play all their in the same venue as India.

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | September 24, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    @RameshRayaprolu In your dreams buddy! We would use the same tactics of spinning out Aus and SA. Pak might be a different story though, but we have managed to beat them when it matters the most(in all World cups) so I am guessing that they would not break that streak.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 24, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    @fguy There is absolutely nothing wrong with turning subcontinental wickets. I challenge you to find me a western article which says that spinning pitches are "less sporting". Most of us are incredibly frustrated that England can never adapt to such conditions. despite the same thing happening every time they go to the subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | September 24, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    @nilb - What you said was spot on even I was thinking of that but still its a tough tough group.

  • POSTED BY PPCric on | September 24, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    Dhoni has had history of making strange decisions. Sometimes they don't backfire and sometimes they do. Calling Zaheer "Sachin" of Indian bowling and then making him sit out just not makes sense. But Dhoni is one man who came onto this earth with a million Kgs of luck. Most of his out of box decisions somehow work. Not playing key players did not back fired. But at the end on the day no one is gonna say anything if the team keeps winning no matter who plays or not. Looking forward to IND vs PAK super eight's match. I think both the teams are equally matched. It should be a good match. Hope Ind wins......chak de India.......

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | September 24, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    i think england now can visualise their 4-0 drubbing in winters, english media wud crusify the overrated broads and butlers

  • POSTED BY Nish_US on | September 24, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    Any predictions on the IND-ENG test series later this year?

  • POSTED BY RameshRayaprolu on | September 24, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Don't get too excited, I think Team India have dig a burial for themselves with this stupendous win :) :) !! such is the super 8 group for them !!! I cannot see India surpassing the super 8 stage....coming up: Ind vs Aus...Ind vs Pak....Ind vs SA.....thats more like climbing Mount Everest in an hour :) ha ha ha.....

    I suspect India could win just one match out of the three, and then get knocked out, or depend on others to qualify for final 4 :) :) !!

  • POSTED BY bigwonder on | September 24, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    @nilb, when will you and others stop seeing BCCI as source of everything. I wish BCCI had such power (as you have imagined), then may be they can eliminate poverty, hunger and crime from the face of the earth. To even read such comments makes me sick. If BCCI has so much influence, the why play all the games, everyone should just hail to BCCI and give the T-20 world cup to India. I understand a lot of fans are jealous of BCCI but this is way beyond imagination to indicate India will always win at R Premadasa.

  • POSTED BY fguy on | September 24, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    i cant wait for the test series in nov. we played like '92 vintage team in eng last year so lets make it official & repeat what azhar & co did to eng in the '92-93 home series where the 3 spinners led us to a 3-0 brownwash. & i dont buy into the western countries' media & fans double standard that a spinning wicket is somehow less "sporting" or "bad" or "substandard" as they repeat ad nauseam, its just a different challenge. hopefully we'll prepare tracks where when the ball pitches a mini-dust storm is formed & play with 3 spinners.

  • POSTED BY fguy on | September 24, 2012, 18:28 GMT

    and this wasnt even a spinning wicket. in fact i thought we were atleast 10 runs too short. they made chawla look like warne in disguise. that takes some doing. i think that ind should continue playing 3 spinners & pathan. all the other seamers are not worth a spot (the rubbish dinda bowled helped eng avoid getting out for <67 the lowest t20i score till now, i mean what was he trying to bowl ? a full delivery on the stumps against no's 10 & 11 and the humiliation would have been more comprehensive). that way they can open with pathan & ashwin and play with the 7 batsmen that i suspect that dhoni will want. though i think its time sehwag is dropped then maybe he'll rediscover the hunger just like bhajji seems to have.

  • POSTED BY premclement on | September 24, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    @nilb, This is true for Australia also, isn't it? They will play all their matches in the same venue as India. So, your judegement is wrong.

  • POSTED BY mathewjohn2176 on | September 24, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    Posted by nilb on (September 24 2012, 15:46 PM GMT,For your kind info, even Australia playing all their matches in premadasa ,COLOMBO. So why do you think BCCI want to influence even Australian matches along with Indian matches if we go by your weird theory?I don't understand how people find some ridiculous theory due to the only reason that they hate one particular team.Instead finding faults with other teams Pray that your team play well in fast n bouncy wickets of palakelle and hambantota .

  • POSTED BY time2goback2dbasics on | September 24, 2012, 17:11 GMT

    as an Indian i would love to see Indian thrown out if dhoni does not play Sehwag.sehwag is cricket n cricket is sehwag.

  • POSTED BY csowmi7 on | September 24, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    Harbhajan bowled well but i hope that Dhoni does not get carried away by this performance against an inexperienced team. I mean 4 of the 6 england batsman have not even played a single test while the other 2 are 20 tests old between the two of them. I doubt they have even played proper cricket in the subcontinent against good spin bowling. I hope that Dhoni persists with Ashwin in the super eights as SA Aus and Pak have good batsman against spin. The likes of Chawla will be taken to the cleaners against Amla Watson and AB Devilliers. Ashwin has proven himself time and time again taking 49 wickets in 7 tests at a batting average of 40 and is India's number 1 spinner. It would not be wise to sacrifice the career of a promising young cricketer for the likes of one who will eventually retire in the next 2-3 years. Hope to see Ashwin and Harbhajan bowling in tandem in the super eights.

  • POSTED BY SoulTaker on | September 24, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    Eventhough Ind won this match i wonder wat Dhoni is thinking by promoting himself up instead of Yuvraj and struggling to score runs....Yuvraj is a match winner he needs his confidence back in order to get that he has to spend more time in the middle...Dhoni not only finds difficult to hit the ball but he also ruins other batsmen chances...

  • POSTED BY TurningSquare on | September 24, 2012, 15:57 GMT

    Damn it! Apologies yes I'm wrong I was hasty to make that comment and was looking at the Tropic of Cancer instead of the Equator!

  • POSTED BY nilb on | September 24, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    Does anyone know that India doesn't play a single match outside Premadasa? Must be BCCI influence, and they know their team cannot play in bouncy pitched when the ball moves around. India will play even the mighty South Africans in R Premadasa. I'm not taking anything away from Indian team they are playing well, they are hard to beat in R Premadasa for any team and there's 95% India will win unless rain kicks in of course..

  • POSTED BY nilb on | September 24, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    India doesn't play a single match outside Premadasa!! must be BCCI influence, as they know their team cannot play in fast bouncy pitches. 95% percent of India winning the worldcup as they will play even SA in R Premadasa.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    @CandidIndian on (September 24 2012, 12:04 PM GMT) Your comments once more stand out above many egotistical cheerleaders. I'd say it was a case of both strategically getting it wrong , leading to a very panicky inns from our boys , combined with your guys playing well. I still think having just 1 spin option was very poor thinking as we still have Luke Wright as a medium/fast option if spin wasn't working. I said at halfway mark I thought 170 was going to be too much but I didn't see it being as comprehensive as it was. I think we almost thought India would be like Afghan re short pitch bowling but they have much more experience/class and also even re those who are vulnerable to shorter pitch stuff , that's more in the test format and on faster pitches. Also still think we are poor at finding the singles. Gambhir was often just dropping the ball by his feet and running safe singles. We should learn more from that

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    @reality_check27 on (September 24 2012, 11:41 AM GMT) Australia had a blip vs NZ but since the last Ashes , their test form has been better than Engs. You can take any set of stats to use for or against a side. If you want to diss Australia , yes they lost the last Ashes and drew at home vs NZ but they also (over 3 formats) edged SA in SA - and BTW I'm an England fan

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    @Sujii on (September 24 2012, 11:24 AM GMT) Our T20 stats against teams with spinners in was quite good until yesterday. Inc the warm up match we went 4-1 combined vs Pakistan and India in SC conditions in the last 12 months. But we were like rabbits yesterday.

  • POSTED BY scandalboy on | September 24, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    Guys look at this..!! This match was played on the alternate pitch of Colombo ground. The main pitch that was used in the tournament was not supporting spin bowlers. India knew that England cant play spin bowling and hence they made them to play on the spin friendly track rather then the main pitch in Colombo ground. This shows how powerful ICC is in the lights of BCCI

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | September 24, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    @landl47. Actually, you aren't that far wrong. the nature of this game means you are only as good as your next game. Bragging rights for a game that sort of seems like cricket. Keep smiling all. How different did both sides perform after their first game? And why won't this inconsistency still occur?

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    the for and against net run rate calculation in the points table for group A seems to be wrong as England did not play full 20 over in the last match against India. am i wrong?

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | September 24, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    If only people would let the facts speak.@recycle bin is empty said "I have no doubt the current English team would beat Australia 99 times out of 100 in all conditions." Pure delusion. If you include the last Ashes series, till the most recent ODI series in England there have been 17 internationals between Aus and Eng. Eng have won 9, Aus 8. So even if we choose a time period where we begin and end with big English series wins, the results couldnt be much closer. I thus refute the silly claim that "I have no doubt Eng would beat Aus 99 times out of 100 in all conditions." I suggest people start sticking to facts, not silly wishful thinking. nd thosr suggesting har fought series in India - incl the extremely fortunate 1 wicket series win last time round - were in any way similar to the games in Aus - where Ind were never even remotely competitve at any stage - really are being delusional.

  • POSTED BY spb24 on | September 24, 2012, 14:29 GMT

    1.Bowlers saved this match(very rare comodity in Indian bowling attack).Always hype on..:"So called India's Powerful Batting line up".No one can understand their batting statergy.What if last 5death overs flop.Rohit played clearly very defensive up to 15-16th over,even having Raina & yuvi at your back yard.Eventually some edges and some good hit made up his run-rate,but aweful at times judging the match sutiation.Defintely 190 at the cards if raina or yuvi made the crease.Kohil is briliant interms of thinking on his feet. 2.Last week some article came on Gambhir batting, and it is evident that he is doing the same...always trying to guide the ball in the 3rd man area by doing so, he is not effective compared to other heavy weights(Openers).But he is damn good player when started attacking. 3.My Team in order: Gambhir,Kohil,Raina,Yuvi,Sehwag(ball swings a little in middle overs, so hit & miss can click),Dhoni,Rohit,Pathan,Harbajan,ashwin,Zaheer.(yuvi/Raina/Kohli-Share part time)

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | September 24, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    now englasd will be thrashed by gayle mccullum and dilshan sanga, hope they play broad tim and swan in all the games, it wud not be a pretty scene, their confidence wud b torn to threads

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | September 24, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Great job by England in confusing India by losing a game that didn't matter. Now India has no idea what its best team is or what its strategy should be. They'll be easy pickings next time.

  • POSTED BY Juiceoftheapple on | September 24, 2012, 12:55 GMT

    The tournament / future series predictions that come in the aftermath of a game like this are laughable. Whilst it was a terrible result for our confidence, and the old chesnut ratified that we are rubbish against spin in asia. What the game has shown us is what not to do - Don't play 4 seamers, play 2 spinners, dont give away runs in the field, dont bowl wides, don't just bowl short rubbish, dont keep bowling if a bowler who is wayward, do keep the scoreboard ticking with safe 1's and 2's, dont play across the line if the ball is swinging, drop the sweep, dont let a team like India bat first if you can avoid it. Hopefully some of these things might be resolved, BUT India have potentially learn't less, in that they definitiely don't know their starting XI to anyone else now, (but they know what it should be to us).

  • POSTED BY AMAZINGFAN on | September 24, 2012, 12:44 GMT

    if u want to win this t20 wc u have to beat the top sides and that's what ind did in last world cup where they beat wi,aus,pak and sl to win the world cup.ind is in tough group in super 8s and they shud beat top sides like sa,aus and pka to win this t20wc.i have confidence in my team.sl will be the easiest opponent for ind as ind always hammer them....come on india BRING BACK THE CUP........

  • POSTED BY WonkyFNQ on | September 24, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    England in Asia again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • POSTED BY PrasadDeoorkar06 on | September 24, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    congrats team India for big win.... Now, the biggest concern for me is as super 8 grouping was already decided before tournament started A1, B2, C1, D2 and A2, B1, C2, D2, the officials are not going it that way..It will help SL to qualify for semis easily and will be hard for group toppers IND, AUS, SA, and PAK. Shame on SL...you gonna lose in semis...

  • POSTED BY IndianROCKstars_2011_ODIchamps on | September 24, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    I was hoping a barrage of abuses from SL fans even if India had won marginally or lost to England even on last ball or last run. Most of the comments would have mocked Indian bowlers. But hey after this performance by Indian bowlers this place has become pest free.Its a different thing that even I as Indian supporter know that pitch did play a major role plus awful English batters against spin were also factor for our bowlers looking like Shane Warne incarnated, but hey SL fans were so numbed by shock that SL fans who seem to celebrate Indian losses more rather than their own wins did not even reply on this forum. As for English, hey guys batting against spin is not so difficult as you think it is. Play positive.Use you feet and wrists and watch the ball when it leaves bowlers hand. Thats all there is to it. You could have asked SL people to help but only 2(Sanga/Mahela) people in that entire country know how to bat and they are in SL team so they wont be able to help you guys much.

  • POSTED BY andrew27994 on | September 24, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    My personal observation about yesterday's match was that England didn't lose just because of India's spinners but they played badly throughout the match. Their fielding was outright dreadful and they didn't put enough pressure they had on India in those middle overs when the run rate was declining. I felt that after they got the wicket of Kohli they should have been more attacking also considering that Rohit who was at the crease at that time was low on confidence.

    Obviously, India scored 20 runs more that what they should have reached otherwise. So England's batsmen were always going to succumb to pressure. On this sort of pitch where the ball comes onto the ball much slowly, you can't afford to slog against the slower bowlers but play proper cricket shots. These, I felt, were England's greatest flaws and if they overcome them then they are the team to beat in this tournament.

  • POSTED BY The_bowlers_Holding on | September 24, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Mohammed Younus on (September 24 2012, 10:34 AM GMT) You are spot os sir, the 2 early wickets meant England were on the back foot from the off. Dead rubber officially but the Ψ damage to England in this tournament will surely be immense. As for posters coming up with the revelation to use spin against England well we all know that. Most of the posters pre yesterday saying sub continent teams had no chance on these tracks were from their own fans. I thought we had no chance pre tournament but allowed myself to be beguiled by the Afghan game and have reverted to my original expectations. India played and thought a much better game as much as it pains me to say, well done

  • POSTED BY The_bowlers_Holding on | September 24, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Mohammed Younus on (September 24 2012, 10:34 AM GMT) You are spot os sir, the 2 early wickets meant England were on the back foot from the off. Dead rubber officially but the Ψ damage to England in this tournament will surely be immense. As for posters coming up with the revelation to use spin against England well we all know that. Most of the posters pre yesterday saying sub continent teams had no chance on these tracks were from their own fans. I thought we had no chance pre tournament but allowed myself to be beguiled by the Afghan game and have reverted to my original expectations. India played and thought a much better game as much as it pains me to say, well done

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Great show by Dhoni's men! Keep it up.. remember, India has to win trophy for Yuvraj!

  • POSTED BY andrew27994 on | September 24, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    Fantastic win for India. Very pleasing to see , first of all, India play 5 bowlers and that has made a difference. Secondly, it was great to see Harbhajan and Chawla back in the team with a bang. And finally, which was most pleasing and which I wanted India to do most was to go for the kill and win by a huge margin. Thats what champions are expected to do and I will only accept India as true champions if they play with this sort of intent. Of course, lets not forget that this is only the group stage and we shouldn't be too complacent. Let's not forget what happened in the last World Cup in 2010 where we reached the top of the group table by beating Afghanistan and South Africa and then slumped losing all 3 matches in the Super 8.

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | September 24, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    Instead of bashing England we should concentrate more on performance of our team.As a Indian fan i am happy team India managed to beat defending champions Eng convincingly that will give us lot of confidence against other strong teams in super eights.In my personal opinion it was more of a strategic loss for England than due to lack of skill or technique against spin.First of all they used the strategy of bowling short balls which they successfully executed in last world cup encounter against India which Eng had the last laugh ,however this time that strategy didnt work.Secondly not many among st fellow Indian fans were giving much chance to bhaji, so obviously his bowling was quite a surprise to Eng batsman.As i see it its a win win situation for both Eng and India,Eng have got the shock before important encounters while India must have got lot of confidence as their t20 form has not been great from last 2 world cups.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    Marcio,What about England's 3-1 test series win in Australia against Australia ?

  • POSTED BY Mahaanama on | September 24, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    @g.narsimha: mate I didn't want to target any team by my previous comment. As SA, Aus and Pakistan are strong teams SL would also have to give a big fight to go to semis if SL were in the same group with them. If so I won't be able to say SL will definitely make semis. Anyway considering T20 performances throughout recent years I thought SA and Pakistan are favorites to make semis from group 1.

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | September 24, 2012, 11:41 GMT

    @marcio wow marcio thats great u back australia to wina test series in australia against england after what happened to u at home in ashes and u couldnt even beat new zealand at home and as far as u making comments on india last 6 test matches that u have lost 4 and 2 draw so u havent done anything much in india atleats india hasnt lost to anyone at home in last 8 years unlike ur team who has lost to england and south africa both. And as far as u facing england england can beat to anywhere any place anytime they are a much better team than australia. and as far as england goes u havent beaten india in india in more than 2 decades now so u dont even have a say

  • POSTED BY kunalx on | September 24, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    SUPER 8 FIXTURE LOGIC. Group 1 = A1,B2,C1,D2 and Group 2 = A2, B1,C2,D1. How A1 and A2 is determinded? It is nothing but just on Seed basis. England rank was 1 and India was 7 before starting. So England became A1 and India A2 irrespective of the result in group stage. Same for the other 3 groups. Now I think all the confusion and fight will be cleared regarding super 8 fixture.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | September 24, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    @Harman Bajwa->England a minnow? Hahaha..Dude England is the current champion.Yesterdays win for India was a great win.But dont get over excited just after one match.

  • POSTED BY Mahaanama on | September 24, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    Posted by on (September 24 2012, 10:53 AM GMT) Being C1 or C2 doesn't give extra points to super 8. It doesn't mean C1 is a better(or worse) team than C2. So C1 doesn't need to be a team that was higher ranked than C2. If SL won against SA still SL will be C1 & SA will be C2. The reason is before starting the T20 WC SA were ranked 1 , England 2, SL 3 etc . So 1st and 4th teams are in the same group and 2nd and 3rd teams (Eng and SL) are in the other group.

  • POSTED BY Sujii on | September 24, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    Englad is well suited only for playing in their home conditions. Maybe they should start to consider playing spin with a little bit of seriousness!!

  • POSTED BY SL_4EVER on | September 24, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    OMG…FLAT TRACK BULLIES ALREADY GOT FEARED FACING PAK AUS SA IN SUPER 8. THAT SHOW'S HOW WEAK THEY THINK THEIR TEAM IS. THE FUNNIEST PART IS THEY STILL CALL THEM AS WORLD CHAMPS (MIGHT BE FOR THEIR PERSONAL SATISFACTION). DEAR INDIAN FANS, RELAX AND ENJOY THE TRASHING YOUR FTB TEAM(FLAT TRACK BULLY) GONNA RECEIVE IN SUPER 8. YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO PACK THE BAGS AND GO HOME IN SUPER 8, BELIEVE ME.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    @Harman Bajwa on (September 24 2012, 10:53 AM GMT) Talk about getting carried away there. Also if Eng are just minnows then how is beating/thrashing them a yardstick for winning a world cup? May I remind you that NZ beat you within the last few weeks - think it was in your back yard too so if that is a benchmark ...?

  • POSTED BY Neuen on | September 24, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    @Marcio England one the last ODI series against Aus 4 0 if I am correct. England did humiliate Aus in the Ashes

  • POSTED BY heathrf1974 on | September 24, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    Their ability to play spin again is a concern for England.

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | September 24, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    Commiserations 'England'. The competition doesn't matter but then of course you don't matter either so........

  • POSTED BY EvilAvi on | September 24, 2012, 11:09 GMT

    Great show from our bowlers.Well done! But now its more confusing for dhoni to choose the playing XI for the super eight matches..

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 11:09 GMT

    @praveen4honestremark on (September 24 2012, 08:25 AM GMT) that indeed is an honest remark , although I'd say Indian fans have been at least equally guilty (more so with Eng) or enjoying another team's defeat more than their own wins.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    I just wonder why people think that one group in the super 8s is much easier than the other? While I disagree with it all being decided (which teams play in which groups) beforehand I wouldn't say one group was any easier than the other - certainly not markedly so. England are apparently lucky to have an easier group. I don't see it that way. In the other group we have SA (who we recently drew with and are possibly now the tournament favourites but who have a knack of starting tournaments big and then losing in the knockout stages) ,Aus and Pak (who we beat narrowly in the warm up games and India who we beat in the last T20 match before this tournament. In our group we have NZ who recently beat India (was it in India) , WI (who were many's dark horses pre tournament) and hosts SL. Every team on their day has players who can individually win matches and I'd be no more fearful of Aus,Ind,SA,Pak than I'd be confident of beating NZ,WI,SL.

  • POSTED BY lion69sl on | September 24, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    how can a team bcame no2 in word test ranking with their btsman dnt kno hw to hndle spin..some england commetataor,former eng cptain said an article here tht fst tracks are the best,how these guys can say fast tracks are best,thats bcause their teams cant play spin in these slow tracks.cricket is play well in all the conditions,not just play well test cricket team friendly conditions my dear englishmen.i tink the reason why ENG,AUS,SA are fmous in test cricket is that they play each others bouncy tracks and do well.when sbcontinnt team fails in their cnditions they tend to say it is a bad team.bt when they fail in spinning wickets,wht is their answer?ENG lost to PAK by 3-0 in n level series in SL 1-1.SL has the bst prtnrship for any wiket in test cricket against SA in sri lanka where we won tht match by an innings.yes test cricket is a test,but T20 is also a test where t,cricket tst btsmen deffensive ablity n bowlers atckng ablty n T20 tsts btsmn"s atkng ablty n bwlrs dfensive abilit

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    so mahanama do you want to say that srilanka is c1 because it was higher ranked than south africa

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    @ All England fans: Thats how India treat minnows like England....nothing can stop us from winning the world cup.

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | September 24, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    The system is wrong ,but after thinking about it, bring it on i say, what a group INDIA, SOUTH AFRICA, and PAKISTAN we are able to watch some fantastic batting and bowling this super 8, so just treat it for what it is ENTERTAINMENT go the kiwis specials for a semi.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | September 24, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    @recycle-bin-is-empty. "I just cant understand the logic by which non-subcont fans say Aus & Eng are better." Maybe becasue they thrashed India senseless recently, not just winning but utterly humiliating India. But if you want to save face, be my guest. It's nice to win a T20 fixture, but even you know t20 is hit and miss, quite literally. The format says little about the strength of cricket in any country. As forEng beating AUS 99 times /100, you have a short memory. The last t20 series was drawn, & the last ODI series at home AUS won 6-1. And AUS' test form in the last 20 months is much, much better than Eng's (check it out). I would actually back AUS to beat Eng in an actual game in this WC. At the very least, it would very likely be a close game. I couldn't see Eng winning an ODI series vs AUS in AUS, as conditions just render Eng's medium pace bowlers cannon fodder, as we saw last time (little swing or cut). I'd also back AUS in a test series in AUS at present, but not in Eng.

  • POSTED BY chrisriemers on | September 24, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    Stuart Broad says England do not have any problem with spin. well i think they will be thrashed again when they tour India this year,unless of course a certain KP makes a late entry to the tour.i don't see Englands pace attack making much of an impact either,so both Swann and Montey has to play in the same team.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    IT was a very good win, I believe even IRFAN PATHAN should get the credit for yesterdays win, he is the initiator for fall of wickets, and it is good to see bhajji bowling fine, T20 is not just a single day game need to be consistent.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    two totally unbalanced super eight groups have been made that will help hapless english and home advantage lanka teams . Just imagine pakistan india australia and southafrica has to play in one group and in other england srilanka newzealand and most probably west indies have to play for the other two semi final spots .First group four teams are way above the second one . I am sure two teams emerging from first group will easily win their respective semi finals and will play the finals .

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | September 24, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    Food poisoning, a real shame.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    English team don't know how to play spin...... great team work by India (well wishes from Pakistan)

  • POSTED BY Numerouno9 on | September 24, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    It was good to see Rohit and Bajji getting back in form. I believe India should go with 2 pacers (Zak & Pathan) and 2 spinners (Ashwin & Bajji) instead of 3 pacers n 1 spinner.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | September 24, 2012, 10:16 GMT

    @Ramansilva and other SL fans. We know why you prefer SA and Pakistan over India in Semis. If it is Australia or India, you will lose the match for sure!. And for your info, If Eng can't play spin, then how come SA!!!! If someone think SA is a better team to play spin, nothing to say!

  • POSTED BY kamranmalik7 on | September 24, 2012, 10:15 GMT

    Love to see Harbhajan back with a Superb performance. Chawla also bowled with great heart. India deserved the victory. Rohit also proved to critics

  • POSTED BY onebump on | September 24, 2012, 10:15 GMT

    Geoffrey Anthony Plumridge - if only England was playing for match sticks in SL and later in India this year...

  • POSTED BY arvindersuri on | September 24, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    The margin of defeat is also the largest, in terms of runs, England have suffered in T20Is and the largest victory inflicted by India.

    You do not inflict victories you either achieve victories of you inflict defeats.

  • POSTED BY Nehans on | September 24, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    @Muhammad Ali Shafi...hmm i got it but Srilanka in any case cannot be C1 as SA is top seeded in T20 so I believe the grouping is done to favor srilanka and England and now its really tough for Pak to reach semis as Pak always finds it very hard to beat india in world cups and SA in any case are the favorites ...I think it will be either India/Pak and SA from Grp 2 and easy going for Srilanka in other group

  • POSTED BY g.narsimha on | September 24, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    MAHANAMAA- How any times u eat u r humble PIE , learn to live in peace man , forget IND , think of u r team , i will be happiest man any team from our region , pak, sl, ind LIFTS THIS CUP .

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | September 24, 2012, 9:29 GMT

    @Geoffrey Anthony Plumridge.... An awful lot of comments for a game that didn't mean anything ;) it was like boys playing men..

  • POSTED BY onebump on | September 24, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    @praveen4honestremark: correct! over the last months, there has been some real bad blood between some Indian and SL fans. Its fun and great to do trash talking, but not when you sling mud and keep saying the same thing (flat track...) over and over again. Not good to just put down for the sake of it. There will always be some who will do that, but lets move on to a new level and have some real cricket talk... like should India bring back Zahir Khan and Sehwag for the rest of the series and is it time to drop Malinga for a while for him to work his way back? I am no expert, but these are the questions that crop up in my mind. As i said earlier, all the cups should be brought to live in the subcontinent.... preferably in SL! Look forward to the super 8s...some motuh watering and some easy ones in the deck!

  • POSTED BY kunalx on | September 24, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    ##### Rule of Super 8 for this year World cup ##### Super 8 fixture is created as per seed basis not as per performance basis. The schedule in cricinfo is right. A1 = Top seeded team from group A, not Group A topper. Similarly for B,C,D. So England became A1 before this tournament begun. This is a non sense logic. Really disgusting. This will help Sri Lanka and WI

  • POSTED BY Mahaanama on | September 24, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan Mate it might be difficult to beat SA, Pakistan, Aus than Eng, NZ, WI. Anyway it's not Sri Lanka's fault that you have to beat SA, Pakistan and Aus. Because before starting T20 WC India rank 07 & Aus rank 09 so when it came to group teams India and Aus were considered as weak teams(as they had low rankings) and they were put with two strong teams SA and Pakistan in the same group. In the same way England and Sri Lanka were considered as strong teams (as they had high rankings) and there are two weak teams in their group as well. So India's poor performances in T20 during recent years have caused them to be in the same group with SA, Pakistan and Aus.

  • POSTED BY sachinisawesome on | September 24, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    @ onebump First try to qualify for Semis or Finals for that matter.

  • POSTED BY AKmAK on | September 24, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    Welll doneeeee INdia... keep up the basics and mental strength.. we can come out of with some awesome wins... sp. congrats to Bhaji.. you did it and only you can man.. hatz off. All the best for proceedings .. and love to see you TEAN INDIA in victory stand with 2012 T20I trophy.. All the best and prayer..

  • POSTED BY CRmadrid on | September 24, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    What funny is that KP said in the studio " winning is in their blood, and when they start winning they keep on winning" very funny indeed.

  • POSTED BY rafay87 on | September 24, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    Harbhajan and chawala not deserving indian playing eleven in super 8 .Although deliver in england match. if they selected other team takes full advantage

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    An awful lot of comments for a game that didn't mean anything ;) it was like playing poker for matchsticks..

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    @Nehans.....group 8 structure is funny this time.....the positions( i.e. c1, d2 and others) given to each team are fixed irrespective of their performance....if Ireland qualifies in place of WI(unlikely) then it will have their position.....so group 8 structure is completely hilarious.......SL is C1 not C2....although they became second....:((

  • POSTED BY sachin_vvsfan on | September 24, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    @Ramansilva @Mahaanama yeah We know how your SL reached finals in WC 2011. Beating Zim, ENG and NZ. May be they can do the same thing again. But who knows india may also do the same miracle to reach finals.Beating AUS Pak much tougher opponents. As for England i would say this is one off game and still long way to go for any team to claim the trophy. May the best team win .

  • POSTED BY kunalx on | September 24, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    This is for all the confusion and bashing ICC for the schedule in Super 8. Super 8 fixture created as per seed basis not as per performance basis. The schedule in cricinfo in right. A1 = Top seeded team from group A, not Group topper. Similarly for B,C,D. So England became A1 before this tournament begin. This is a non sense logic. Really disgusting. This will help Sri Lanka and WI.

  • POSTED BY Thyagu5432 on | September 24, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    So much hulla gulla about Bajji's performance. Looks like all this is staged for him to get back into the reckoning at Ashwin's expense. He may slap a colleague, call one of the opponents by some name or go without doing anything worthwhile match after match. But one instant (where he has taken a few wickets), suddenly Dhoni says he has a problem of plenty, somebody else says Bajji is back with a bang. Whatever may be the reason, Bajji seems to have a lot of goodwill with people who matter. Ashwin has to learn the trick of staying in the team which is not necessarily to bowl well.

  • POSTED BY Extraz on | September 24, 2012, 8:31 GMT

    Well done india you guys just outplayed england great spell of bowling by bhajji Best of luck to you for the Super 8s from Pak.

  • POSTED BY onebump on | September 24, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    Congrats and well done India (from SL fan). Thank you for demoralising and putting doubt into the minds of the English. The English media were going on and on about Jos buttler et al and man werent they immature against spin. Good luck for the super 8s India! Look forward to meeting and beating you in the semis.... or final. We need to bring back all the cups into the subcontigent.

  • POSTED BY praveen4honestremark on | September 24, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Thanks for greetings upon Indian win. Even all the best for your teams. Thank you brothers.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    @Hrishikesh Charwande on (September 24 2012, 05:52 AM GMT) Marcio is a full blooded Australian. Not sure if he'll be upset at you saying he's a Pom or pleased that you have slated England

  • POSTED BY praveen4honestremark on | September 24, 2012, 8:25 GMT

    There were some nasty comments from our neighbors during these days especially predicting the result of this Eng vs Ind match to go in Eng favor and Indian bowlers be thrashed.I don't want to use the words they said again. Very painful to read in the thread. Using insulting comments wont do any good. Don't behave like enemies.You have your team as favorite and we have ours.Celebrating Indian loss more than your win has become a trend i guess.We want is friendship from our neighbors and also would like appeal to some Indian fans that let's not even tease them. If your team wins over us enjoy but don't humiliate even these words applies to some of my fellow Indians who humiliate. I am not trying to be good here. All i want to say let's not fight here, nobody likes. If you keep on posting humiliating/senseless/ nasty comments, then they will come back to you once your team looses and you will have no place to hide.Let's comment on how to improve our team performance and enjoy game-India

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    @Si Baker on (September 24 2012, 02:01 AM GMT) I have seen Jade do excellent things on a cricket pitch but he can also be a liability. I said at the time that Jimmy would be a better bet. Finn is also a liability in this format. I think Jade's problem is that he overdoes things in search of perfection and when it goes wrong it goes horribly wrong. Only having one spinning option was daft to me. It seems that when Finn isn't taking wickets he's going for runs in this format. Surely Briggs is less likely to go for runs than any of our pacers. I think also that we stick for too long with tactics/players which aren't working - even within the same game. I'm a firm believer in T20 that if a bowler has a bad over where he goes for runs and does not look threatening to switch things and by the same token if a bowler is on fire to bowl him out rather than save him for an over at the end when he might not have the same rhythm and you may have 2 batsmen that can play that bowler better.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger on (September 23 2012, 20:28 PM GMT) Strange comms again. How would England and Australia be influencing the pitches in Sri Lanka?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 8:23 GMT

    @James Badge Wing on (September 24 2012, 02:23 AM GMT) I've said the same thing before. We should be looking to score a run off every ball from ball 1. Gambhir was often dropping the ball by his feet and running the single. Also by doing this you can often manoeuvre the field - maybe bring them closer in - and then it is easier/less risky to hit over the top , when you'd have your eye in more

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 24, 2012, 8:23 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar on (September 24 2012, 02:40 AM GMT) I must admit I'm really disappointed in your comments. I had you down as one of the more constructive commentors on here. Re KP and Bell - Yes I think ant ODI/T20 side without KP in it is weakened. Re Bell - he scraped one 50 in 10-15 inns inc warm up matches in UAE/SL and in UAE was by far our worst batsman. We had an awful day at the office and were woeful in all departments including selection IMO but might be a good idea to wait until the WC finishes before being too judgmental. Remember Eng beat Pak and Aus in the warm up games and both those teams have looked mighty fine so far. We all start afresh this week.

  • POSTED BY bravetigersmustwin on | September 24, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    @mahanama .... stop dreaming and come to reality.... SL looked very great against minow Zim but SL were thrashed to the bottom by the south africans.... whereas india thrahed mighty T20 specialist team england like a minow... teams like SA, Ind, Pak and Aus perform well at bigger stages ..... higher the stage higher the performance... SL cant handle important matches and lose like a toothless lions in fact they are not lions ... Not because of pressure they lose the finals ... they are left with only that much talent... but are right they have good chances to go to semi final because WI cant play as a team and eng, NZ are avg spin playing team... had they been playing in group 1 SA, Ind and Aus they will lose all the matches and shown the exit immediately.

  • POSTED BY khuram501 on | September 24, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    well done india, they outplayer england in batting ,bowling and fielding, kohli is in super form, wishing a super duper final bw india and pakistan,

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 24, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    @Marcio there is fine line between ignorance and hypocrisy. The fact is England is very good team but have weakness against spin which India exposed yesterday. But no, since Ind won bcoz of an exceptional bowling performance it must be due to a turning pitch or due to Eng are a poor team, neither of which is true. The pitch was actually faovring the seamers, and this English team would surely beat Aus 99 out of 100 times in any format anywhere in the world today. And regarding our 8-0 loss in Eng and Aus last year, it was surely an abysmal performance from our team, but it is just plain wrong to question the credibility of a team by looking at its performance in just 6 months period. Aus has lost all its matches too in India in the past 2 series and Eng too, though i dont know the record. I just cant understand the logic by which non-subcontinent fans say Aus and Eng are better. And one more thing, the wickets in India and SL are as much different as they are in Aus and Eng.

  • POSTED BY AnoMaLy on | September 24, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    @ Mahaanama - Like the optimism but that's not hows its going to end. Ind should make it to the semis

  • POSTED BY Nehans on | September 24, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    I didn't understood the group 8 structure , srilanka is supposedly C2 and not C1 so why Pak,india,sa are in the same group though they have topped their respective group ...isn't it better to have 2nd position in the initial stage to compete with the 2nd rated team...

  • POSTED BY Great_Chucker on | September 24, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    @Mahanama Aus and India from Group 1 and WI and NZ from group2 ...SL is ordinary team

  • POSTED BY Goldking1 on | September 24, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    For the group who who're t- shirts in the recent England and South Africa t20 match in England saying "Kevin who" the answer is " i.e KP"!! Those people are really missing KP now. I am pretty much sure he (KP) will receive a call from the board :)

  • POSTED BY king_lion on | September 24, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    Congratulations India. Super 8's will be tough. I am not sure if India is certain for semis especially because we have to play against SA, PAK and AUS. One bad over can turn this game. And guys (for those who goes overboard in commenting), show some respect to english players. After all they have majority of boys turning in to men gradually just like we have few in our team. We should restrain ourselves in passing absurd comments because we know how it feels to be on the other side of rope. Time is better spent in relishing our achievements than bullying others' weakness. We are mature enough to avoid comparison between tests and T20Is. We learnt our lessons last summer and England will learn it this winter. So relax and enjoy the game.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 7:47 GMT

    Well Done India, but I think sterner tests lay ahead in the t20.

    And this t20 game won't necessarily have any reflection on the Tests. That will be a tight series, so I hope India up their game and have revenge in their hearts when they face England and come at England all guns blazing.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 7:44 GMT

    very poor batting by england.gifted the match to india.......

  • POSTED BY Munkeymomo on | September 24, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    Pretty huge defeat. Glad it wasn't an important game progression wise but still... wow. Well done to India, that was a comprehensive victory.

  • POSTED BY AbidGymaholic on | September 24, 2012, 7:40 GMT

    With out KP, English batting lineup might face a lot of trouble in the next upcoming matches against Asian sides..even in warm up game against Pakistan, they managed to score 111 and were bowled out with in 20 overs...an alarming sign for team England...

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Congratulation India, for beating England with stile it was fantastic game to watch good luck guys.love to see another match India vs Afghanistan

  • POSTED BY arvindersuri on | September 24, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    The margin of defeat is also the largest, in terms of runs, England have suffered in T20Is and the largest victory inflicted by India.

    You do not inflict victories you either achieve victories of you inflict defeats.

  • POSTED BY SudharsanVM on | September 24, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Why people calls Derbanch as a specialist death Bowler when he is getting hammered like this. He is becoming predictable with back of hand slower balls.

  • POSTED BY SpartaArmy on | September 24, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    India did well to defeat England with such a huge margin. Coming to Indian bowling, Ashok Dinda, Balaji and P Chawla do not deserve a place in the national team. They both may be good at domestic level where batsmen do not make full use of poor deliveries but at this level they will get spanked all around the park. In the super 8 India should try Zaheer, Pathan, Aswin, and Harbajan. No matter who bowls the other 4 overs they will not concede any thing less than 11rpo. Hoping that above 4 averages 8rpo; India batting should be prepared to chase 170+ consistently to reach next stage.

  • POSTED BY All_IS_WELL on | September 24, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    India won group stage but they will be lost all super 8 games .

  • POSTED BY kasi_214 on | September 24, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    this time india has played simple cricket and england played domitating cricket. they thought of getting to a blistering start and lost their way. it was not that what many say "the spinners of india did the job or england play spinn worst) the spinners have bowled well but england lost it first 2 wickets to fast bowling(irfan).it was the england that underestimated indian bowling and played similar to afghasthan who played against india in their first match and made the score board run and lost wickets at regular intervals and lost the match.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | September 24, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    @Mahanaama->Dude also tell us that who would win the next T20 WC? You are predicting things as if the whole torney result is already decided

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | September 24, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    @Ilyas Zaheer->Irfan pathan started that destruction and than it continued till the end..Irfan really was exceptinal yesterday.Totally different Pathan that we are used to

  • POSTED BY SudharsanVM on | September 24, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    Trailer released too early for the main film "Eng tour of Ind 2012".

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    why there is not a single mention of irfans 1st spell which all started to destroy the england team..

  • POSTED BY Ramansilva on | September 24, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    It will be miraculous if Indies can beat at least two from SA, PAK and AUS to progress to the semi-final stage. So, soak in the glory of the win over an ENG team that did not have their best players.

  • POSTED BY Hamzaad on | September 24, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    Congratulations From a Pakistani fan. That's the calibre of English batting in front of quality spin attack. Harbhajan and Chawla were good, but will see how they perform against Pakistan, Aussies and SL teams which play spin bowling better than England. Virat Kohli, what a player he is ....his 1st shot was awesome ...and his strokes reminded me of Saeed Anwer in full prime ...... when the ball goes of the blade so quickly that fielders jogged on only to fetch the ball....Over all a good team performance by India....Hope to see a Ind o Pak match in Super :D

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | September 24, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Australia and England have two things in common. Australian Labor is languishing without Kevin (Rudd) and England cricket is labouring without Kevin (Pudd).

  • POSTED BY sweetspot on | September 24, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS - what a first comment, and what an epitaph! Priceless!

  • POSTED BY king_lion on | September 24, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Congratulations India. Super 8's will be tough. I am not sure if India is certain for semis especially because we have to play against SA, PAK and AUS. One bad over can turn this game. And guys (for those who goes overboard in commenting), show some respect to english players. After all they have majority of boys turning in to men gradually just like we have few in our team. We should restrain ourselves in passing absurd comments because we know how it feels to be on the other side of rope. Time is better spent in relishing our achievements than bullying others' weakness. We are mature enough to avoid comparison between tests and T20Is. We learnt our lessons last summer and England will learn it this winter. So relax and enjoy the game.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 24, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    @ marcio . personally india will be happy to be with sa , aus , pak . all these three teams have some weaknesses . all of these teams don't have a good record against india . if you compare this with teams like nz whom india has never beaten in t20 s , wi against whom india suffered back to back losses in 2009 , 2010 wc , with that say i m happy to see india with sa , aus ,pak .

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    Remember guys, Pakistan have never won a single match against India in any world tournaments be it world cup or world t20.. So this time too i'm sure pakistan will loose to India and since they have a very bad batting line which will collapse in pressure, they are sure to loose against South Africa and Australia too..

    And south africa always chokes at pressure situations and looking at the 4 teams(India, Australia, South Africa and pakistan), i feel India and Aus will surely get through easily.. Pakistan might have had a chance had they were part of the other group featuring England, Srilanka, West Indies and NZ..

    Finally for the sheer entertainment, i would love west indies doing well and reaching finals.. I want West Indies and India finals and hopefully West Indies win... That will be surely be a very happy moment for world cricket seeing west indies lift the trophy :) Ofcourse i will be happy if India wins too ;)

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    why there is not a single mention of irfans 1st spell which all started to destroy the england team..

  • POSTED BY rafay87 on | September 24, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    Congrats India!!!!!! Although i deadly support Pakistan. Its overall good show.Nevertheless India Bowling still weak, However ,Kholi is find of indian cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    Well done India and Pakistan. Will love to watch Pak Ind final. Waiting anxiously for Sehwag, Yuraj, Afridi, Razzaq to click in the tournament. Best of luck to both teams.

  • POSTED BY Mahaanama on | September 24, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    Irrespective of group stage results South Africa, Pakistan, Australia, India go to group 1 and Sri Lanka, England, West Indies New Zealand go to group 2. Out of 4 teams in each group only first two teams advance to semi finals. It means South Africa and Pakistan from group 1 and Sri Lanka and West Indies from group 2 will advance. So it's going to be Sri Lanka vs South Africa final. I would say SL Lions have the upper hand to lift the trophy as they learned some lessons from their previous defeat.

  • POSTED BY Yolk_Eater on | September 24, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    ICC's scheduling sucks. ALl the toppers in one group? Seriously? Meaning two of those good teams will not even reach semis? Will the crowd come to watch NZ or SA?

  • POSTED BY Vijay51982 on | September 24, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    @Marcio - We are very much happy with the side we got in the Super8. Keep in mind India is always playing their best level against the tougher side (Example: Afghanistan match) If India got easiest team as you mention in A Group then everyone knows how they will perform? So it is nice to face the tougher side like SA, AUS and eagerly waiting for Pakistan to join in the group. India lifted the WC2011 by playing with all the cricketing nation (except NZ) Bangladesh, England, Ireland, South Africa, West Indies, Australia, Pakistan and finally Sri Lanka where no one has won the WC like this. So wait & see the champions game very soon. First to go Australia on 28th Sep 2012. Chak de India…….

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 5:54 GMT

    The horrendous display by England will only bolster the courage of a dithering Indian side which is frantically seeking to redeem itself after the despicable last test season abroad. With this display England will have to put in a humongous effort to regain confidence. Harbhajan has tasted success and will be a handful for any opposition. With the immature performance of west indies against the Aussies the tournament seems to have opened up further. Teams like India and Pakistan have wedged their foot in the doorway, so to say. It remains to be seen whether Gary Kirsten has indeed rid his national team of the tendency to choke. It is early days but the Proteas, Pakistan and India seem to be in a mood to own this tournament, the rest have a lot of catching up to do.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    @marcio- really good to see an english cricketing fan commenting on indian cricket. so 8-0 loss is that terrible..?? what about those ashes series when england used to loose to australia hands down in both england and australia..?? no doubt india played bad cricket bad cricket in those months in england and australia. but look into your own history and then write some meaningful comments. indian wickets are slow/low. so what? they are pitches which give u results and has been a part of cricket since the beginning. just coz englishmen dance on spin bowling, u say there shud be fast pitches in sri lanka. go get a life.

  • POSTED BY 777aditya on | September 24, 2012, 5:32 GMT

    All three spinners i.e. Harbhajan, Ashwin, and Chawla should play in the remaining matches - India should also pick up Zaheer/Balaji/Dinda and Irfan. With Harbhajan, Irfan, Aswhin, and Chawla batting 7 through 10, India's batting worries will evaporate. Only thing is when picking up only six batsman, who would sit out - I guess in that case Kohli, Dhoni, Raina, Yuvraj, Rohit, and Gambhir should play while Sehwag and Tiwary can play chess at the boundary line!

  • POSTED BY ashani_sl on | September 24, 2012, 5:28 GMT

    Sri Lanka cricket is best in the world! This Indian team was lucky! Hope the Indian cricket fans who 'love the sri lanka cricket team' had a chance to see the "overwhelming support" for the English cricket team. Hope the Indian cricket Fans also recall the treatment of Indian cricket fans during the last ODI series. sri lanka people are smiling, ever cheerful people, always with a smile on their face. Remember that!

  • POSTED BY Vijay51982 on | September 24, 2012, 5:27 GMT

    @Marcio - We are very much happy with the side we got in the Super8. Keep in mind India is always playing their best level against the tougher side (Example: Afghanistan match) If India got easiest team as you mention in A Group then everyone knows how they will perform? So it is nice to face the tougher side like SA, AUS and eagerly waiting for Pakistan to join in the group. India lifted the WC2011 by playing with all the cricketing nation (except NZ) Bangladesh, England, Ireland, South Africa, West Indies, Australia, Pakistan and finally Sri Lanka where no one has won the WC like this (as published in English Newspaper "Telegraph") So wait & see the champions game very soon. First to go Australia on 28th Sep 2012. Chak de India…….

  • POSTED BY No_1_again on | September 24, 2012, 5:24 GMT

    Well said Marico, these sub-continent fans have no idea about what they are talking. Can't wait until they (IND) face AUS & SA fast bowling and PAK's spinners then we know who are the champs and pitch fixers.

  • POSTED BY shrastogi on | September 24, 2012, 5:18 GMT

    It was a good win for India though it has put them in much tougher group. Rohit Sharma is a different player when it comes to T20. Gambhir was scratchy and Kohli was usual self till he gave his wicket away. Harbhajan and Chawla bowled well but Ashwin still is no 1 spinner in the side. I was disappointed with Dinda. Pathan did well to give early breakthroughs. Now as Dhoni says there is a problem aplenty and a lot would also depend upon nature of pitch. Generally speaking I would play with 7 batsmen against SA and 6 each against Australia and Pakistan. When playing with 4 bowlers I would have 2 fast bowlers and 2 spinners and when with 5 I can think of playing 3 spinners. As of batsmen playing with 6 one would need specialist openers as I'm skeptical of Kohli opening so Yuvraj Singh may have to sit out as I think on current batting form Raina has better chance to succeed as I'm not the one who plays for reputation. Zaheer has to get a game and then make a decison on form.

  • POSTED BY FadeToBlack on | September 24, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Congrats to India from a SL fan. It was a complete victory in every aspect. India's bowling has really come of age and this is without Ashwin. It was Pathan's initial overs that really set the tone. England seems listless without KP. They really will have to raise their game in the Super Eights to quailify for Semis.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 5:14 GMT

    India and Sri Lanka has to reach the final if Lanka are hosting a tournament

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 5:13 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad: Given the amount of support Indian fans gave to Pakistan when Pak was playing England, one would think Pak fans would reciprocate...I guess I was wrong. (Maybe some people think the enimity between govts should percolate down to common man's belief system too).

  • POSTED BY Aadipriya on | September 24, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    Rohit is back, Harbhajan is Back, Yuvraj is back.... Congrats to all Indian cricket team fans... If India could get its Sehwag back... Trophy will b India's. Hope for the best. But for me currently, South Africa and West Indies are real favourites.

    The winners though will be the ones who could play spin better than the other...Pitches are going to detriorate from here...:-)

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    england will go home with 1 victory, a warm up against afghanistan, we know there story on the sc against bigger teams

  • POSTED BY torturecell on | September 24, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    It was just a bad day for England otherwise No Quality exists in indian bowling line.i think england jus didn't wanted to play

  • POSTED BY swarudprince on | September 24, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    When Rohit is in full flow he can do wonders..he has proved it in the past and when he is not in touch remember only form varry class is permanent..please dont critisise him anymore let the kid play his game

  • POSTED BY leleraja on | September 24, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    England played so poorly that even Dhoni would have picked up few wickets had he bowled his slow mediums!! I am not taking away any honors from Bhani & Piyush who did their roles admirably well.

  • POSTED BY Dilruksh on | September 24, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    india shud not be overhelmed by this performance.india did great yesterday by beating india convincingly but once shud get the fact that all the dismissals came thru poor batting display by the english.they didnt even read the ball well.the spinners think that they got their men through their talents.but i would say because of poor batting

  • POSTED BY Anees_Theruvath on | September 24, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    this is one of the worst fixtures for any major tournaments, super8 positions were pre fixed, now the things are like group toppers end up in the same group (ind, oz SA, pak) and weaker group with others, now it is sure that 2 group toppers will not be there in the semi's, fixture should be such a way that teams playing well in that series should move to the successive rounds. hoping for a change in the coming tournaments...

  • POSTED BY aashokan on | September 24, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    England have sent a second-rate team; where are their wonted heroes from the english summer? Where is Kevin? Where is Jonathan? Where is Alistair? Who are these passengers?

  • POSTED BY atul2884 on | September 24, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    I am not sure how ICC arranged the teams and how they come up with some stupid idea of placing the teams All the 4 teams who won all 2 group matches are in same group and even though india won both the matches they are A2 whats the meaning of playing 2 group match then ICC just increased their revenue with some useless group matches

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | September 24, 2012, 4:28 GMT

    and guess who said india were going to destroy the worst side still in the tournament? me, thats right. hang on did england even get to the super 8s?

  • POSTED BY VivtheGreatest on | September 24, 2012, 4:28 GMT

    Congrats Team India for a superb win. This was as comprehensive a thrashing as u could wish to see. Hope the Indian think-tank realises that 5 bowlers is the way forward. I mean why do u need 7 batsmen for 20 overs? Continue to keep Sehwag and Zaheer out and play Ashwin for either Bhajji or Chawla. Rohit or Kohli should open coz using Irfan if we're chasing a big total in a crunch match may not work. As for England it was a real amateurish performance. No footwork, sweeping everything with nothing more than a prayer on their lips! Get KP back ASAP or else they'll be in big trouble later this year. Gooch and Flower 2 of the best players of spin were really cringeing watching the 'show'

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    @marico India is not afraid of being in the goup of death.India will play well against these teams ,i bet u india will win against South Africa and Australia (no comments on india vs pak game).India is going to semifinal easily,not bcoz of india's spin show against the English but bcoz of the ability of dhoni in judging the premadasa pitch and making right n timely selections.

  • POSTED BY indianphysio on | September 24, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    it was good performance by team india,but the real test starts now as i guess india have australia,south africa in his grup for super 8..so its going to be difficult.. on other hand i dont know wat poor manoj tiwary has to do to get a game..dhoni seem to be blindfolded on him...he is the only player out of 15 who didnt even get a chance including warm up games...is he only for warming the bench..wat will happen to his confidence..mr cool captian think abt it

  • POSTED BY kumarcoolbuddy on | September 24, 2012, 4:13 GMT

    Looking at the ENG batsmen's shots and the way they lost their wickets I felt they were quite over-confident. I am not in excitement of T20 win but ENG needs to realize what their strength is and play accordingly rather than under estimating opposite teams. I still say that ENG's home series white wash win against India in 2011 spoiled them completely.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 4:11 GMT

    @darshi007 I am waiting for a single match when your so called fame changer Sehwag really changes a T-20 game for india..a batsman is like sehwag should be endured only when lets say he scored low in 3 matches but atleast made a 50 plus score in the 4th match.but when was the last time this overrated batsman scored some run and bottom line when was the last time india won the match because of sehwag's performance.you talk about emotion and facts.well how is this about a fact since Yuvi's return count the total run both yuvi and sehwag have made then decide who should be sitting on the bench.guys like you want sehwag in the team because they are secretly hoping he will blast in atleast one match in the whole tournament but that never happens and you wait for next match and that my friend is called emotion.i think virat should open in t20's with gambhir and sehwag should be out.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 3:58 GMT

    Well played team India and congrats bhajji and chawala..

  • POSTED BY praveen4honestremark on | September 24, 2012, 3:53 GMT

    First of all; Hard luck England. You had in you to play spin, but implementing what you have in you is different and it takes lot out of you to play quality spin. Indian bowlers bowled well. Irfan was good like always he has been in this season starting from SL tour. Harbhajan and Chawla are doing well, but it's too early to say they got into groove in my opinion. The confidence is lacking in them. May be few more games like this can help improve confidence. If 5 bowlers to be taken then either Chawla/ Harbhajan, one of them should be taken. Dinda is not good in this match but reliable to take wickets even though goes for some runs. In batting Rohit sharma is becoming confident and you can see his stance and play shows it all. He is good T20 player; so when some is playing good please don't use words like "overrated". Against quality England bowling he made runs, that shows he improved. Dhoni needs to improve his batting against slow bowls. Gambhir played a sensible knock. Good to see.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 3:51 GMT

    Out Standing IRFAN PATHAN you are the one how destroy the other teams in the start other wase we will lost and we are looking for you beating in top order as opner BEST OF LUKE.

  • POSTED BY Smack-DAT on | September 24, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad: dude check the replays..and Taufel is far better umpire than shakoor rana..isnt it!! and @vkypak and@SL_4EVER: Your comments are welcome..we love you too (but cant resist for giving a small suggestion,'dont write anything just for the sake of writing')..all the best for super-8

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 3:46 GMT

    Group B team all are win Both matches. Group A team are win single match. is it good plan ICC fixtures for next round.

  • POSTED BY ifrakurshid on | September 24, 2012, 3:43 GMT

    MSD AND COMPANY IT WAS YOUR DAY AND THE TEAM HAS DELIVERED.BRAVO ZULU. I HAVE ALWAYS ADVOCATED INDIA CAN MAKE TWO TEAMS AND CAN DELIVER IN ALL THE 3 FORMATS ON ASIAIN PITCHES BE IT INDIA, BANGLADESH, PAK, SRILANKA OR UAE. BUT WITH CAUTIONS BY NOT DOING MORE EXPERIMENTS IN THE PRESENT WEATHER CONDITIONS.

  • POSTED BY RanKan on | September 24, 2012, 3:43 GMT

    Astonished by the win. Perhaps India is a contender after all!

  • POSTED BY colombo_SL on | September 24, 2012, 3:33 GMT

    Well played India! Completely dominated the England. Absolutely brilliant the way they tackled the defending world champions. Go India goooo, make your way to semis!

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 24, 2012, 3:29 GMT

    India should start looking beyond Zaheer Khan. Parvinder Awana and Shami Ahmad look very promising. They performed well in India A's trip to West Indies. They should be given a run in Indian team instead of the likes of Ishant Sharma, Vinay Kumar and Dinda. Yadav should be used mainly for test matches.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 3:27 GMT

    There is a crazy debate going around saying that just because India is more populous they should dominate cricket and all sports...... I would like to point out tiny czech rep does better than eng aus in football, tennis n many other sports.... n what about holland??? It doesn work that way

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 24, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    In spite of the very limited bowling options available to him, Dhoni has achieved much more for team India than the Fab 4 and the so called GOD of cricket could ever achieve. Sure the FAB 4 scored many more centuries, especially against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, but they couldn't win anything for team India. Drop players like Sehwag and 10dulkar who know only to score centuries against Bangladesh, and give a chance to our youngsters.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 i saw your comment about the srilankan pitch.Do onething export indian pitches to countries like SA,AUS,WI,NZ,ENG,ZIM,IRELAND AND AFGANISTAN.Because of you people india is always getting whitewashed in Foreign Pitches.Try to play atleast in srilankan pitches.In super eight India have to SA,AUS and PAK .THese 3 teams will play in spin track.SA and Aus play in any track thatswhy they both won test series in every test playing countries.Even in spin track india failed by innings in last 2 tours of southafrica to india.Luckly we draw both series by not making sporting wicket.in second test of each tour.,

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | September 24, 2012, 3:15 GMT

    Wow many Lessons learnt/proven: 1. Dropping a non-performing old player (Harbajan) only helps him improve his talents and come back with more vigor. 2. Dropping Sehwag and Zaheer makes the India team perform far better. 3. India's strength is spin and not pace attack !!! (wow, what a discovery!) 4. India should bat first whenever they win the toss and use the wornout pitch for using their main strength (spinners) latter (as was the csk policy anyways).

  • POSTED BY Rick777 on | September 24, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Like to remind Nasser Hussain that this England team will come nothing close to what they did last time. He was speaking big about the Hales, Buttlers, Bairstows & Keiswetters. None of them our experienced enough to play in these condtions. Just because they our young, it doesn't mean they are going to take England all the way. The ECB did a huge mistake by not selecting players in the caliber of KP, Collingwood & Bell. Apart from Swann none of the current players could do any impact in this edition. Morgan & Broad could come close. But it won't help England win as they don't have the correct balance in this team.

  • POSTED BY CardassianExpansion on | September 24, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    Do Bell, Cook & Trott not play T20s. Can players pick and chose what formats to play?

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 24, 2012, 2:49 GMT

    This proves why Dhoni is the best captain in the world when it comes to ODI and T20. He may not be so good with test matches. He had the guts to drop non-performers like Sehwag and Zaheer, and play much maligned players like Bhajji and Chawla. What a difference they made! Also, Irfan Pathan is a must. He's the best all-rounder we got.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | September 24, 2012, 2:40 GMT

    Without Bell and KP England can't travel overseas. They are sitting ducks on sporting wickets against spin. Period! The way they played like fish out of water was just hilarious. I couldn't stop ROFL. Absolutely clueless with zero talent in ages while facing decent bowling on overseas sporting wickets. At least now, the dressing room is happy and KP didn't contribute to this amateurish school boy batting performance by England. Looks like India should have declared when we crossed 100 and asked the clueless English batsmen to face quality bowling on the sporting wickets of the sub-continent/Srilanka. People need to get their money back whenever England plays a match on these tracks. They simply turned up as individuals and thought they would win. There's no fight. No interest. No spirit. Where are KP and Bell? Utter shame. Bring them on if people's money has some value. We need our money back. Harbhajan's career was ended by the English in England? ROFL! Thanks to Essex as well.

  • POSTED BY sk12 on | September 24, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    @TurnignSquare - mate you got ur geography all wrong.. Oz, NZ and SA are the only test playing nations NOT in the northern hemis.. Before you talk abt the English winter, you must first know abt the Indian summer, its heat and humidity. And Oct/Nov are the monsoon seasons (atleast in south Ind), eating much of the autumn/winter seasons. And fyi, there are downsides to cricket being the main sport in such huge populous country. The amount of cric our team plays, number of days spent in travel.. away from family.. # endorsement and other commitments.. of course the IPL.. in fact I am impressed our guys play so well inspite of all this.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    @yorkshirematt: England played awfully, but I'm not sure it has any bearings on the test results later in the year. This is a t20, and your t20 players are very inexperienced, especially in these conditions. I still believe India will win the test series, but bowling to Cook, Bell and Trott will be a different prospect altogether. They'll definitely play spin better than Bairstow, Butler and Morgan.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 2:23 GMT

    I think England's biggest problem is the boundary or nothing mentality of the batsmen. If the bowler is bowling well its better to get a few singles and rotate the strike and pick the boundaries when available rather than playing dot balls then having a massive hack at the ball. Someone need to tell them that 5 singles and a 4 is better than 5 dots balls and a six.

  • POSTED BY spirit_cric on | September 24, 2012, 2:07 GMT

    England are nothing without KP, they really miss him.If he was there, IND would never win with this very poor bowling attack!

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 24, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    I don't think England or Australia will ever conquer this type of bowling on sub-continental pitches. They just don't see (and therefore get to face) chuckers at the top level, they are weeded out way before they ever reach first class cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    Excellent. Just as complacency was setting in again, we received just the wake-up call we needed. On another point entirely, can anyone tell me why Jade Dernbach is allowed anywhere near a game of international cricket?

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    this is not harabajan come back...kindly note.........ashwin didnt play the match.....if ashwin played in the last match.....harbajan wont even get chance to get a wicket......and he need to prove by taking wickets, while ashwin paly along with him..........

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 1:49 GMT

    india shoudnt have dropped SEHWAG ASHWIN and ZACH ....even though bhajji and chawla performed against the NEW england team...it will decrease the confidence on inform bowlers....aa of BHAJJI he should show his talent against SL ,OZ, PAK SA...not agst ENG

  • POSTED BY huffpost on | September 24, 2012, 1:22 GMT

    folks.. get ready for the super 8s now as the men have been separated from the boys...india , aus,sa and nz are in one group and sl,pak,wi and england in the other. so its going to be exciting....enjoy all the fun...as an indian fan, i like being in the tougher group bcos i truly believe team india is amongst the best....and we need not worry being in the tough group...

  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1 on | September 24, 2012, 1:02 GMT

    That is the beauty of Rohit, click in meaningless games and flop in all the meaningful games where there is real pressure. Rohit is keeping a bowling all rounder out of the team. It is always good to see a young Indian Batsman such as Rohit perform and save the team but such innings are few and far between, to really have faith in his performance. He needs to click consistently in real pressure games, learn from Kohli and Raina.

  • POSTED BY No_1_again on | September 24, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    Can't wait till 16th to see how this slow trackers will perform against Starc, Pat & Co

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    I am a big advocate of trying out new players. But, Dinda & Balaji do not seem to fill the bill. (Dinda is not a thinking bowler. Balaji has developed physical limitations with all his past injuries). There are many other youngsters, like Yadav, Unadkat (even Ishant, despite his loss of form in between), who deserves to be given more opportunities; and discard and try others if they don't come up to the required standards. P.S. Aaaron seems to be in the Dinda mould; hence, I didn't include his name. But, if he shows a little more cleverness ( in addition to his speed) he may also be given an extended run, at some stage.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 0:48 GMT

    I have said before and will say it again. Class is permanent and form is temporary. Rohit was vindicated after his woeful performance of late and all the critics who wanted him out will now have to eat their own words. All members of current squad in all formats are worthy of their selection and given chance they will prove that they are good. So all the critics crying for their heads, please give them some room and let them play cricket. it is always easy to criticize players but if one were to put himself in their shoes, he will know that playing international cricket has never been easy with all the bowlers trying to make an impact. Harbajan too played quite well and I am sure he will bounce back in tests too.

  • POSTED BY on | September 24, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    Dhoni is right. Our senior most batsman Tendulkar and the senior most bowler Zaheer should be given respect for all the great things they had achieved in the PAST and done for India in the PAST. Both deserve and should be given a highly respectable retirement. If both of them find it difficult to do so on their own, selectors should kindly help them out. We should not be ungrateful to them. BCCI, Selectors, someone, any one ... pl take initiative in the matter.

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | September 24, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    I was really surprised to see the pathetic batting of England, particularly when you consider that 2 of the best players of spin from outside the subcontinent, Gooch and Flower are on the coaching staff. Either they are not doing their job, or the players are not listening to them. England have struggled in the subcontinent in recent times, in contrast to Australia or South Africa, who have done well here, even before the IPL. The test tour will be different, with Cook Trott and Bell providing the experience. Time for India to blood Rohit Sharma in the test team, dropping Raina, who just does not seem to have it in tests.

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | September 24, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    The rubber might have been "dead" but it is far from without consequence as by losing to India ensures that England will meet Australia in the super 8's

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | September 23, 2012, 23:50 GMT

    It is good to see Rohit doing better, as I am a fan of him. I hope he will do well and get back into the ODI team. We have a good player in him for the two shorter formats and some of his shots look so fluid. I still have his IPL 109* innings saved on my DVR.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    Iam totally confused with dharshi007 what have been said. Please please Dhoni is the best captain and he knows and all the Indian players knows how they can play

  • POSTED BY Badgerofdoom on | September 23, 2012, 23:33 GMT

    Yikes that was dire, if we play spin like that later in the competition we are not leaving the super 8s. No excuses that was just really bad batting.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | September 23, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    Unfortunately for Indian fans their team will be in by far the tougher group in the last 8, while England will be in the easier group. So I wouldn't crow too loud just yet. As for England, "youthful courage" (as the writer put it on another cricinfo article) can quickly turn to youthful panic. Winning two very close warm up games and beating Afghanistan should never be taken as a genuine indication of a team's quality, as an absence of pressure in these games does not test the players' true courage. A soldier is not courageous if he is fearless in a game of paintball. Let's see how he performs when the bullets are real.

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | September 23, 2012, 23:26 GMT

    It would be nice if the wickets there at least gave some support to the fast bowlers. They are half the game at least!

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | September 23, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    @TurningSquare and @FreddyForPrimeMinister, I agree that India should dominate cricket in all 3 formats and in most conditions because of the pool of players/player polulation, the attention cricket gets and being able to play year round. Now, we only need to get BCCI to believe this and create conditions for this. Also more of our players need to get more International exposure and to cricket at its highest level. Selection practices should be more improved and sophisticated. India should be able to produce more specialist bowlers in bowling for pace, swing, seam and bounce. We should be able to produce more specialists in all departments in the 3 formats of the game. We should be able to produce pitches that simulate nearly all international conditions for our players. I am guessing that we will see improvements in all formats in the not too distant future. It is a failure that this has not already happened. There is no excuse for India not to have dominated in Test cricket overseas.

  • POSTED BY darsh127 on | September 23, 2012, 23:21 GMT

    @Darshi007, i totally agree with your comments, that is exactly what I was thinking.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | September 23, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger, still smarting over the 8-0 test losses? If you think pitches are fixed just becasue they are different in Australia and England than India, you clearly need a geography lesson. India played on a variety of pitch types in Australlia last time (as they always do), and got thrashed everywhere, even on the placid Adelaide wicket. They also came last in the ODI tri-series, where the Lankans didn't seem to have too much trouble with the pitches (which were actually closer to sub-continent slow/low by the end of the summer). And winning a T20 game really should not make you so self-superior, considering it is just 20 overs of instant cricket. Just plain bad sportsmanship from you.

  • POSTED BY subbass on | September 23, 2012, 23:10 GMT

    One more thing I'd add is if you have a young top 6 which lacks experience accidents happen. :p It is interesting how cricket matches always seem to matter though the winners of this game should not have got too excited nor should the losers have got too downcast, but yet they did. I suppose it was the manner of the defeat though but maybe they will learn more from losing than they would have done by winning. Or maybe I'm licking my wounds. :p

  • POSTED BY abhi130787 on | September 23, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    the best part of match ....kp in post match analysis...the only player who could have made the difference....beware england the bowl had yet not started turning ...dreadful times ahead...... I wont miss their match against sri lanka...if they can not face this on flat track which was not a turner ....what will happen against mendis on a turning track(English team: thank god murali has retired :P).....

  • POSTED BY subbass on | September 23, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    Looks like Goochies car mat did not make much difference ! I hope he gets a better one for the super 8's. But credit where it's due India played very well and it was clear that Dernbach should have not played, it should have been Briggs instead, you could tell by Swann's excellent bowling figures we were gonna have it all to do at the halfway stage.

    That said we'd have still lost anyway - unless we'd done something remarkable bowling wise - as we batted like muppets but I would like to see them pick 2 spinners EVERY single time we play in the sub continent. Still can't see India winning it mind you, SA or Pakistan for me.

  • POSTED BY vipravara on | September 23, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Breaking news!!! ECB is busy investigating whether anyone sent text messages to Indian spinners of how to get English batsmen out. (LOL!!) Congratulations, India. More than your awesome bowling, it is the awful English batting contributed to your win today. Perhaps, the same cannot be expected from Aus, SA & Pak batsmen. Good luck in supr8- a cricket lover from India.

  • POSTED BY Jaywriter on | September 23, 2012, 22:45 GMT

    @Turning square. Further to my comment further down, I forgot to add that the West Indies are also in the Northern Hemisphere along with England, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. How does the population of the West Indies compare with England's and the rest?

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 23, 2012, 22:28 GMT

    This is what I have been saying for so long - get rid of non-performers like 10dulkar and Sehwag - and give our youngsters a chance. They have a burning desire to prove themselves. They will deliver, if you give them a few chances.

  • POSTED BY Darshi007 on | September 23, 2012, 22:25 GMT

    We shouldn't be emotional about playing Yuvi in the team. All the batsmen can't play in the XI. We need to play 5 bowlers as playing 7 batsmen is a complete waste. 2 spinners is a must. Ashwin and Bhajji should play. Zaheer and Irfan will play. The other bowler should be Balaji or Chawla depending upon the pitch. We can't drop Viru as he is a game changer at the top (though he hasn't done that lately). So when we have to pick 6 batsmen : Gambhir, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni pick themselves. Only 2 among Viru, Yuvi and Rohit should play. Rohit (highly overrated) never gets dropped for some reason plus he got a 50 today too. So, for me it's either Viru or Yuvi. As middle order seems settled it makes more sense to drop Yuvi. But knowing how sentimental Indians are, Yuvi will be picked and so will be Sehwag as well as Rohit because we just love our batsmen even if it costs us a victory.

  • POSTED BY ccriccfan on | September 23, 2012, 22:22 GMT

    I am glad India won. Thanks to the compliments from fans of other countries but to be honest, I being an Indian am ashamed to see the behavior of some of the Indian fans here. It is just a game;get over it! Let your ego go, tomorrow it could very well be us getting thrashed all over the park.

  • POSTED BY Master01 on | September 23, 2012, 22:16 GMT

    I can't believe some people are complaining that India has more people ! haha. Oh to be an England fan

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 22:16 GMT

    Pakistan v India 30th September 2012 3pm UK time start. I knew that both teams would meet each other since the groups were announced and super 8 teams and also the minnows have (had) no chance and even if Pakistan topped their group and India came 2nd they would still meet vice versa

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | September 23, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    Excellent batting by Virat Kholi and Rohit Sharma. Where are the people who were calling him Nohit Sharma? I have been telling this for a long time - drop non-performers like 10dulkar and Sehwag. We have no shortage of talent. There are many more Virat, Rohit and Chateshwar's who are dying to play for India. Also, team India needs an all-rounder like Irfan Pathan.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 22:10 GMT

    K.P............. (He was the decisive factor in the last World Cup win for England).....He handled the Spin very well in T-20's, he remained man on the match in his last played T-20 last Vs Pakistan in UAE. I don't think Hales and Luke (occasionally shines) can replace him. It's a Hard nut to crack for England to reach in Semi's in his absence.

  • POSTED BY Ra_Thore on | September 23, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    @ TurningSquare , down with your nudge use of Northern Hemisphere. You meant arctic jet stream causing long winters in England. You have any idea how much rain India, BD, and Sri Lanka get and they are all part of the Northern Hemis...or whatever!

  • POSTED BY lobsterchampion on | September 23, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    For those who are questioning the Super 8 groups, these groups were drawn based on team rankings before the T20 WC started, which is ridiculous. No matter how teams perform in the group stages, the Super 8 groups will not change. That is why you have all the group winners in one group and second placed teams in other group. India will be grouped with Australia, South Africa and most certainly Pakistan. A tough group indeed.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | September 23, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    Dernach looked SO ordinary again, he always goes for too many runs, I have a horrible feeling that if ENG do get further, i.e. into the QF or Semi, someone will totally take him apart at the ENG side expense and the game. Why on earth they didn't they play Tredwell and Patel........

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 21:50 GMT

    @Vijay Sundaram I like your optimism! (or maybe pessimism coming from an indian supporter) However it is clear that nothing has been learnt from last winter. I hope England can somehow perform like they did in SL in the second Test, but we all remember who got the runs for England there. I've never been HIS biggest fan, but even I realise now what a difference HE can make to the side. Regarding the batsmen you mention, Cook is a little out of nick, and it remains to be seen what affect the captaincy will have on his performances, and trott is likewise out of form. As for Bell, I actually regard him as a better player in english conditions. He plays spin well on pitches that don't turn, but not in the subcontinent, which is a different kettle of fish altogether.

  • POSTED BY TheCricketEmpireStrikesBack on | September 23, 2012, 21:50 GMT

    Well you can always rely on England for excellent pantomime and this match was no exception. It's good to see their fans are also getting into the spirit of the rediculous - @TurningSquare so you think England is "the ONLY Nothern Hemisphere Test playing nation"? The last time I checked Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Bangladesh were north of the equator. Has continental drift gone into hyperdrive?

  • POSTED BY Rajavel-cricket on | September 23, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    Actually i planned to sleep after indias first innings because i had to go to nite shift,,, But when i saw england getting out like ninepins i continued watching match till the end.. and also i watch the cricket extra but bad thing is pietersen was not dare to critisize england and he was keep on saying its a dead rubber.. Probably star cricket should not bring pietersen to the studio when england plays a match..

  • POSTED BY Stateside_Steve on | September 23, 2012, 21:41 GMT

    Liskal, you can't be more wrong. If anything this match has sown the seeds of self doubt among the rank and file of the English side before the beginning of the Indian tour. It will be in full bloom come November. I also like the fact how some of you now are saying that this is a useless tournament and rankings all of a sudden doesn't matter.

  • POSTED BY sharpshooter77 on | September 23, 2012, 21:41 GMT

    My Indian side for the rest of the tournament would be (batting order):

    Gambhir, Kohli, Raina, Rohit, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Pathan, Ashwin, Harbhajan, Chawla and Zaheer Khan

    Enough depth in batting, number 8 Ashwin can throw the willow around a bit too, 5 regular bowling options plus Yuvraj and a couple of part timers in Rohit and Raina. With this team composition India will surely do well.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 21:30 GMT

    i m trying to figure out why afghanistan lost to this english side :)

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 21:18 GMT

    What are you on TurningSquare? The Pakistanis had everything to do with the Afghan development. They were the ones that let them play their first matches. They were the one who helped them to get their basic training together. They allowed them matches against Pakistan A. Where do you get England in any of this?

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    @Turning square Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are all north of the equator, therefore in the northern hemisphere! The general gist of what you say is right though.

  • POSTED BY RKEY on | September 23, 2012, 21:07 GMT

    INDIA IS A1 and they put India in other group according to the schedule that has been shown here on cricinfo .I am not getting it......Which teams will be there in group with India

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    YorkshireMatt: I do think the England test team has players who play spin significantly better than today's outfit. Notably Bell but also Cook and Trott. Clearly they didn't show it last winter, but I think England will be more competitive this time round. Remember also India has a new look batting lineup (although Kohli looks like he could bat blind on current form). Overall, I expect a very tight series.

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | September 23, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    @TurningSquare on (September 23 2012, 19:45 PM GMT) - excellent comment. England were soundly beaten by a much better side on the day. However, there needs to be some realism brought into the debate as to why India may or not be a better cricket team than England. The population of the UK is approx 62 million; the population of India is 1.2 billion. The premier sport in the UK is football (sadly!); after that we have many other sports to rival cricket - rugby union and league, athletics, golf, tennis, hockey, swimming, rowing etc etc, In India cricket is practically a religion, followed by almost the whole country; after that, I believe hockey may be played? The biggest problem we face however is the weather: we can only play in summer and this season alone, my club lost 7 matches to rain along with almost half our official training nights. (This is a major reason why Aus are such a fine sports nation.) Frankly, it's surprising that England are as good at cricket as we are!! :)

  • POSTED BY sarbojit12 on | September 23, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    India shudnt be overwhelmed by this performance, Asian teams do play well against spin, and many foreign players are also getting used to it, thnx to ipl,slpl etc etc.Hope the gud run continues for India..great comeback by Bhajji!!!

  • POSTED BY IndCricFan2013 on | September 23, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    It is ridiculous planned for Super Eights. All the teams that won both games are going to end on one side in Super Eight. ie, Australia, South Africa, India and Pakistan and hence all the teams that lost to big ones will end up on another side, ie, WI, England, NZ, and Sri Lanka. So, I won't be supervised England get back to Semi's. Though, I predict WI, SL, IND and SA to make the Semi's.

  • POSTED BY isport on | September 23, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    Special praise for Irfan Pathan. He started the downhill slide of England. They could not recover from his assault and tamely gave away everything to the spinners. Pathan should be tried for more matches as an opening batsman.

  • POSTED BY TheBengalTiger on | September 23, 2012, 20:28 GMT

    This pitch didn't even turn! Cant wait till England play on a pitch that does turn. England and Australia are the worst pitch fixers in the game.

  • POSTED BY ovzdatta151 on | September 23, 2012, 20:26 GMT

    I couldn't able to watch the match. Was Sehwag, Zeaheer and Ashwin were dropped or rested ?

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | September 23, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    PLEASE Indian fans don't ever denigrate Rohit Sharma. He is a talent India should not lose. With his confidence up, he needs to work hard to get into that Indian middle order for tests.He has proved it in odi and T20 and continues to leave his mark. I cannot forget the IPL when he scored against top class bowlers and got a 100.

  • POSTED BY nyc_missile on | September 23, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    Thumped 'em didn't we? This is the most satisfying and comprehensive win for India recently.Well the squad tells you what was wrong till date and what needed to be done to fix it.Brave and apt call by Dhoni to drop Viru&Zak though he sugar-coated it saying he 'requested the seniors' to sit out.Those 2 were the liabilities and it immediately worked without 'em.Only change from this squad will be to drop Balaji/Dinda and bring in Tiwary.Just 2 pacers are good enough even on helpful pitches because our strength any day is spin and going with 3 spinners aint a big gamble.Otherwise a perfect line-up to go into Super 8s.Hope batsmen accelerate in the middle a little more and Dhoni gives enough overs to Yuvi to exploit his hitting ability.Because its clear that Dhoni isn't quick enough in T20s to tee off and better to have Raina or Yuvi coming in at 5.All in all a massive boost & btw where have all the English fans disappeared? lol cant take this humiliation eh

  • POSTED BY SnowSnake on | September 23, 2012, 20:08 GMT

    Keeping result out of analysis, England needs to improve its bowling and India needs to improve its batting in the death overs. India did not do well towards the end. The score should have been 180+ given India had wickets at hand. Any other day, it could have been a close match.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 20:05 GMT

    @nassir hussain, i dont know where are you today, yesterday you mentioned it was Indians only win over Afghanistan, they cant taste anymore win in this TW20 WC, i wanted to answer yesterday only, but i was waiting to slam all those faces once for all. dont underestimate any team. may be we were out of touch, but dont you know we are the current ODI champion? may be we will not win, but we are just fighters, and we know how to slam on face, if someone takes us lightly, we are the champs, n we will give you all fight, and mostly everybody will enjoy our matches for sure.

  • POSTED BY mazii on | September 23, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    Waoooo.... Indian spinners hammered England, humiliated them and break them apart, so they may not be able turn the table around. What a surreal or absurd defeat. They come here to defend their title. It doesn't seem like they gonna reach to the semis. I would love to see these guys against Pakistan in the semis. But sorry guys you can't reach to the semis because every side will introduce more spin against you guys. Harbjhan showed what he can do on the given day, but I still feel he can't survive against the better spin playing teams like Sri Lanka, Pakistan and SA, to an extent Australia too. Anyhow, having said that even a bowler like piyush chawla can take wickets against this England side, what to say of Ajmal, afridi, botha and others. They will be hammered.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    A lot of ppl on facebook are saying that India are gonna play Australia, South Africa and Pakistan/Bangladesh in the Super 8s. How come that be? With all due respect to Cricinfo's staff and its management, even the super 8 schedule that is updated here on this website does not seem correct!!! Isn't it like... A1 (India) vs B2 (West Indies/Ireland), C1 (South Africa) and D2 (New Zealand)? Kindly correct me if I am wrong :)

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 23, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    @Akshita29 on (September 23 2012, 15:45 PM GMT) Any top 8 team can beat any other top 8 team. Remember England just drew a home series with SA in this format and beat (albeit in close matches) Pakistan and Australia in warm up matches as recently as this week and one of England's opponents NZ also beat your guys a week or 2 ago. Rightly or wrongly no points are carried forward so we all start with a clean slate for the next stage. And many on here were saying what a good bet WI were before the tournament started and how poor Australia were. Amazing how a few matches can change people's opinions completely

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | September 23, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    Don't forget this was just a practice match. England were practising new ways to get out to spin.

  • POSTED BY Vijay_P_S on | September 23, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    @Stark62, Yeah I agree. Some dumb scheduling that is.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 23, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad on (September 23 2012, 16:14 PM GMT) It was probably a brave decision but a good one. Wright was out fair and square

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 23, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    @Stark62 on (September 23 2012, 18:51 PM GMT) Yeah , have to say that unless a minnow was to qualify it kind of seems a bit pointless.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    @akhilesh0109 Another suggestion for Mr Broad: It was a "dead" game. Whoops, actually he can't use that one as he himself said beforehand, and I quote,: "There's no such thing as a dead game when you're playing for your country". Well Mr Broad, you're lucky this was as dead a game as you can get. Even my lads JB and Brez couldn't offer some consolation as they were just as woeful as the rest.

  • POSTED BY TurningSquare on | September 23, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    I'm sick to death of people ripping into England! You forget we are the ONLY Nothern Hemisphere Test playing nation. Pretty much every other team can play and practice all year-round. Even in our Summer months we have to contend with rain which limits our playing time even further! Not to mention cricket is a little way down our list of popular sports. We don't have the huge pool of players to pick from like India and Pakistan. I have respect for every cricket playing nation but some of the fans on here have no substance. I wonder which nation helped boost the game in Afghanistan?? That would be England.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    so undone by the batsman of England not happy with thr performance though

  • POSTED BY Juiceoftheapple on | September 23, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    To the sound India fans on here, well played India, good thrashing that. How many things did we get wrong: Fielding terrible, Bowling no control and no penetration. Why let India bat first?, Why play 4 seamers? 1 spinner???? Was really dissappointed with our boys Kies and Buttler, who both had a great opportunity to express themselves. BUT You see it week in week out in County T20, marginally turning pitch, good spinner with control, little bit of variation, BANG, scoring comes screeching to a halt. Our footwork is terrible, leaded boots, pre meditated, brought up on playing lines not lengths. Pick 3 spinners against us, might not need the third. Sort it out England, lets hope all our cock ups have been condensed into one game.

  • POSTED BY hvijay.1985 on | September 23, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    Shambolic organisation. First, scheduling the tournament in the monsoons. Second, they send back the minnow teams before others had even played a match to save on hotel costs, and making clashes between top teams dead rubbers. Third, the first 4 out of the group stages can only get 2 semi-final spots, whereas the last 4 are guaranteed 2. How much poorer can it get?

  • POSTED BY Ra_Thore on | September 23, 2012, 19:41 GMT

    Surprised!!!! Totally unexpected from a team ranked at 7.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    WALLOP!!!!!! As a certain Lanky would say. And what a walloping it was! The annoying thing was that it wasn't even turning much, if at all, and apart from Harbhajan they weren't huge spinners of the ball. This was also against a bowling attack who were questioned in the build up to the tournament. Many thought that India would have to score upwards of 190 to make sure of winning the game, and they may yet have to against better teams than England. India will come up against much tougher opponents than Afghanistan and England, and it is against the likes of SA and Pak in the Super 8s that they will be tested. The signs are good though. Test matches are completely different, but if you have a weakness against spin, that weakness is always there no matter what the format, so the fact that England STILL can't play spin in the subcontinent is VERY relevant for the the upcoming Test series. The batting line up will be different, but are any of the Test batsmen any better at playing spin? No

  • POSTED BY Supa_SAFFA on | September 23, 2012, 19:38 GMT

    Oh what I would give to see KP the mediaman tasked with interviewing the England dressing room on where it all went wrong.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:38 GMT

    It has to be the most annihilating defeat of any defending Champions (YAWN!!), who just went down without any sense of Pride or had any inkling of idea of how bat on slow wicket. If they their excuse was that this pitch was turning , then Champs please wait for some more time. Although it was a dead rubber , India have really obliterated the egos of this team. Stuart , atleast have the humility to admit that you guys were outclassed and It wont be a surprise if all other teams use Spin against them. Good Luck facing Mendis :D

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | September 23, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Well done India, well and truly outplayed England, against the predictions of many of the commentators on here before the match. What one result does to affect the mind of the supporter! All doom and gloom amongst the Indian fans before the match, now they believe they are world beaters again! Where did this bad blood between fans come from. I dont think the teams have any issues between them so why is it that the instant India beat England the fans come on here to gloat? In the same way that the Indian fans could not be gracious in defeat last year in England now we find they cannot be gracious in victory either. I find this the sadest point. As an England fan who has spent a long time in India I could find myself rooting for India when they play anyone else, however it is the attitude of the fans on web forums that puts me off doing so. Shame.

    The upcoming series with India could be very interesting, but I do anticipate it being a long, tough one for England. I

  • POSTED BY GLORY2INDIA on | September 23, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    TURBANATOR is back!! welcome England to ASIA!!

  • POSTED BY diehard_INDIAN on | September 23, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    @ SIRSOBERS what do you say now? have england ever won anything in ASIA. its england's good luck that the third team in this group is afghan, a new team otherwise england would have packed their bags by now. england is the weakest test playing nation in sub-continent.

  • POSTED BY AAK786 on | September 23, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    well done team India and keep it up...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    Chris Broad said that his batsmen are working hard in nets to learn to play spin.

    Present English team without Kevin Peterson is just like West Indian team without Gayle.

    Broad will be better advised to learn to prepare loosing captains speeches just like Sammy delivered for nearly 18 months in absence of Gayle.England may win few odd games without Peterson,, but they will regularly loose without him. India A team will be good enough to beat this England team on turning dusty Indian wickets during forthcoming series in India without Peterson.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    well done TEAM INDIA. Indian team gave them Ssuch a humiliating defeat in this manner it was not expected. but again congratulation from PAKISTAN.

  • POSTED BY fab4_india on | September 23, 2012, 19:29 GMT

    Who??? Number one Team??? hahahahaha lost to India expected...India made 170 expected...cant play spinners expected...Bhajji picks up 4 wicket acceptable...But ROHIT making 50, and CHAWLA picks up 2 wickets...hahaha u kiddin me...they r surely worse then AFGHANISTAN...

  • POSTED BY TurningSquare on | September 23, 2012, 19:29 GMT

    Look, this was a really poor effort from our guys today. The fact of the matter is spinners in the county game aren't good enough, hence our emerging players don't have exposure to quality spin. We must produce better spin bowlers. We have too many spin bowlers not even turning the ball at domestic level. Our batsmen learn their skills against these average bowlers so the instant it turns a little at international level they are in unfamiliar territory.

  • POSTED BY InnocentGuy on | September 23, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    @England, are you sure you really want to play a whole series in India? Yes? Really? Well, if it's a whoopin' you are a wantin' we shall gladly give it to you.

  • POSTED BY Class-Apart on | September 23, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    Can't wait for next Sunday pak vs India Assuming pak goes through on Tuesday

  • POSTED BY akhilesh0109 on | September 23, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    an appetizer for november series.. looking forward for the excuses offered by england.. no kp, one bad day, conditions dint favour us.. anything else mr.broad??

  • POSTED BY ilovecricket1234 on | September 23, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    Where is KP when you need him?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    Well this could be tactic to end up in an easy group.....!! We all know England is a thoughtful side and they plan their steps carefully.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    India won but it was a boring one sided match!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    It would be a problem of plenty for India in the next game :).. My suggestion wud be to drop Gambhir bring back Sehwag and play with 5 bowlers .. Way to go India! Spin should do the trick again Vs Aussies on Friday. But Aussies are far better than the English while playing spin..

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    feeling gr8 to see sehwag out & gauti playing with some responsibility.

  • POSTED BY Vilander on | September 23, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    If you drop a Kevin 'the gun' Pieter, and make Stu 'the barbie' broad the captain, well what did you expect ? WHAT DID YOU EXPECT ? E C B.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    This is ridiculous the top 4 teams AUS ,SA,IND,PAK which were most likely were to make for semi-finals are in the same group.first ICC scheduled this event in a rainy season in SL and now the way in which grouping for super eight have been done is beyond our understanding.Group 1 Matches will be boring and one sided;ENG,WI are favorites for semi-finals

  • POSTED BY akhilesh0109 on | September 23, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    Experts called this Indian bowling attack as pedestrian.. Pedestrian?? i dont think so.. this attack has bowled the opposition team out in 3 INTERNATIONAL matches, something never done by an Indian team before.. and a note for england.. if this is how u play bhajji n chawla, then i would definitely like to see how u face the combo of ashwin n bhajji on Indian dustbowls!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    EXCELENT PERFORMANCE BY TEAM INDIA

  • POSTED BY Vasilev on | September 23, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    @SurlyCynic: Well said mate. The Jokers have struck again. Their procession to spin was Hilarious. This tournament badly needed this match. Otherwise, it has been so dry all along. @Mohammad Omid: Afghanistan certainly are a good team. They surely need to play more at the highest level.

  • POSTED BY sachin_champ on | September 23, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    First of all many congratulations to Team England for this show . And hoping the same show in November but don't forget theater will be more exciting . @Cricinfo: please add LIKE button because I really wana like some comments and status .

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | September 23, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    England buried the hatchet inside KP and bingo, instant Sharma

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | September 23, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    Interesting to note that after restricting minnows Afghanistan to 80, England limp to just 80 against India. This takes the concept of "bullies" to a whole new level! England's abject display against spin bodes poorly for their defense of this title, & rings the alarm bell for their prospects in their upcoming tour. 2012 may well go down as one for the English record books. In a year during which they held the top ranking in all three formats, they have also collapsed to the lows of the most comprehensive defeat in test history at the hands of South Africa, & now their worst T20I defeat ever. Bullied at home in Fortress England, & now bullied away, one can not but wonder if their brief stay at the top of the tables was an earned honor or a lucky confluence of events. The next 3 months will surely decide if a better description than "Golden" may have been the "Tin era of English Cricket," & whether the 3 lions are, in truth, just 3 toothless paper tigers! KP come back - all is forgiven!

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | September 23, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    Two things... forget this has any significance in relation to the forthcoming test series...half this team won't be there... And all this nonsense about Pietersen..Have you forgooten a basic concept about the game... A batsman can only be at one end... if the guys at the other end are falling like ninepins whatever Pietersen might have done would not have saved England in this particular match.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    Its funny how England fans are not commenting. @JG2704 Mate what ever you do and who ever you bring in, india will play spin better than england... and who ever batsmen you bring in they will struggle against indian spinners PERIOD .... and who ever commented on Rohit sharma, would be a hard pill to swallow ... LOL look at him he has class written all over .... and who ever predicted england rolling over india in this game - please comment now : I DARE YOU ........

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | September 23, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    170 seemingly was not enough at the end of the Indian batting, so it felt with the mis-hits and the lack of boundaries and sixes. It seemed like the Indian batsmen should have gone for more drives to get fours rather than attempting to clear the ground for sixes, with all the mis-attempts for them. I expected England to come in strong and score well. With good spin bowling and the pressure of falling wickets and mounting required run rate did the trick. T20s are so unpredictable, it just takes a good performace or two to change the fortunes. India, beware of England if we meet again in the semi finals.

  • POSTED BY sweetspot on | September 23, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    90 runs? That's a pretty big margin in a test match. In a T20 game that's extremely dismissive, pun intended. What the heck, England? Were you guys even awake today? Defending champions, are you kidding me? I loved watching India win, don't get me wrong, but the Afghans provided some pleasure in the game, some fire in the contest. You just sucked today. Every team will want to play all the spinners they have against you now!

  • POSTED BY meetagod on | September 23, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    Hey England, you deserve this humiliation. You kept the best at rest and your rest went back to nest.

  • POSTED BY cooljack_143 on | September 23, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    ENG YOUNG PLAYERS ARE SUPER STRONG MEN WITH NO CRICKET BRAINS..Just power aint enough to win this tournament.You need smart heads like KP,BELL,TROTT Eng clearly missed trick on this.Bresnan&CO can any day get lofted off the ropes in this subcontinent.LOOKS LIKE IND&PAK are doing each other FAVORS BY BOOSTING EACH OTHERS CONFIDENCE.Last time when India were shattered in ENG, Pak showed ENG their place in world cricket , in tests that they played later & now when PAK was shattered by this ENG line up in warm up game, IND showed ENG their place again.so its win win for INDO-PAK but loss loss for ENG..AND FOR THOSE IND fans out there try to be stable in your opinions even when team wins / looses, only then your team can win tournament..SO now who are the favorites of this edition????

  • POSTED BY uzairamir on | September 23, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    indians do not favour hawk eye but when there players are getting plumb decisions on hawk eye they say its fine!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    Hopeless England, a long winter awaits!!!!

  • POSTED BY liskal on | September 23, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    Face it, this match had the significance of an extended net practice. Maybe India can brag about the outcome for some time, that's all.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | September 23, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad: Umpire Tuffel's decision was gutsy as Wright was plumb out. I personally feel Wright should be fined for showing his dissent at the umpire. To be honest the pace & cutter beat surpised Wright as he hurried his stroke but was beaten & would have been bowled middle & Leg. The ball pitched in the range of stumps too. Great call Umpire Tuffel!. You cannot always be "right" in hitting every ball to the fence, Mr. Wright.You need to drop a "W" to be right.

  • POSTED BY darsh127 on | September 23, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    Well Played India, fantastic performance overall! I don't understand one thing, India topped the A group so they are "A1", if so , how do they face Australia, South Africa and likely Pakistan?.. shouldn't they face sri lanka, new zealand and likely west indies?

  • POSTED BY sachabhi on | September 23, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    Now india should play bhajji & ashwin For nxt round........with zaheer & balaji ,irfan taking the attck....pace..and it could be fr8 combination for the team & best of luck team india........

  • POSTED BY Vijay_P_S on | September 23, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    This defeat will fast-track KP back into the team for the test series.

  • POSTED BY paulbiman on | September 23, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    well well what happened to those so called over rated players such as butler ,bairstow and wright who were flying in the warm ups,i tell you they are good for nothing ,perhaps england should bring bopara back ,as class is permanent but form is temporary as he can help england with his bowling as well ,just see how rohit sharma played ,india stuck with him and he has repaid them today

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | September 23, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    So, the teams that have topped their group (assuming Pak win against Bang), will be in the same group in the super eights? That is just RIDICULOUS!!

    What is the whole point of finishing first? The teams don't necessarily have to carry their points forward but at least split the super eight groups, with a mixture of two no. 1 teams and two, second placed teams.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    Well Done INDIA!!!INDIA Zindabad......

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    Pathetic England T20 team. They are No.2 in ICC rankings??

  • POSTED BY desi-blue on | September 23, 2012, 18:45 GMT

    Poor batting from the ENG batsmen...they had nothing to offer the IND spinners apart from sweeps and slogs..Sourav Ganguly summed it up well by saying that it seemed like the ENG batters were playing the spinners....WITHOUT BATS!!!....from an IND point of view their real test starts now!!..I really hope that this is not all they have to offer as in the last two T-20's they got past the first round easily but fizzled out meekly after that...also happy for Harbhajan who bowled really well,but I hope he does not get lazy and hopefully he will continue working hard..all in all, a good sporting weekend for me..IND win in the world cup and MAN UTD won in the Prem League...@Yolk_Eater:- LOL!!!

  • POSTED BY brusselslion on | September 23, 2012, 18:45 GMT

    Meaningless match. Meaningless tournament. I'm sure (hope) that the English batsmen will play straight balls better in the forthcoming Test series. Still, a win is a win so well played India.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Now the Indian Spinners Ashwin, Harbhajan, Chawla and Yuvray, all are doing well, I bit concerned with the Fast Bowling department. Hope in the coming matches they too perform good. As far as batting is concerned I am quite happy with the batting line up and their performances. The Super Eight will be a good contest to watch. Top 4 teams (India, Australia, South Africa and Pakistan) in Group A and the others 4 in Group B. Waiting for Super 8.

  • POSTED BY Natesan333 on | September 23, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Although some might say that this is a meaningless game (particularly the English:) two things stood out. The handling of the short ball by the Indians, which I thought they took a big leap forward and the continuing clueless-ness of England playing the spin. Can't wait for the series in India, where it will be a genuine turning pitch.

  • POSTED BY DaWall on | September 23, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    thank you England. Thank you Dhoni. You folks sure know how to mess up my T20 fantasy league. Have a heart guys. Seriously ...why make team changes when it is the middle of the night here:) and Ajmal not getting MOM cost me 150 points..

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    It was always written. Ind-Eng in these conditions and no KP. Poor Choice Poms. But the margin of defeat is just to hot to handle. But what matters, starts now.

    India is placed in a tough group against the likes of South Africa, Australia and Pakistan. The only team against whom I can guarantee an Indian win is Australia. Beating SA is not going to be easy. Still, I fancy India going into Semis with Pakistan topping the group.

    From the other group (Eng, NZ, SL, WI), It seems that SL and WI would cruise through. SL would obviously top the group given the result of SL-WI game.

    So, SF1: Pak-WI -> Pak Win (Without any doubt) SF2: Ind-Sl -> Ind Win (Without any doubt)

    Seems like I need to beef up my stock of fire-crackers. Whatever it is, the team winning this Cup is going to be from first group (Ind, SA, Pak, Aus). Lets see....!

  • POSTED BY Analyst_c on | September 23, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    What a pathetic, abysmal, and gutless performance by the English team. Not looking forward to another four months of this tragicomedy called the English cricket team competing in the subcontinent. Also let's not focus too much attention on this farce, that is the English batting on the subcontinent. England's problems are way bigger than just their comical efforts to navigate spin bowling on subcontinent pitches. They were just thrashed in the test series against SA in their own backyard. The reality is that England is a very, very average team irrespective of where they play and focusing too much on their subcontinent spin woes masks their sheer incompetence so ruthlessly exposed by SA. England will soon be ranked 5 or lower in tests and that is where they will rank for the foreseeable future.

  • POSTED BY muthuthewaves on | September 23, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    and then England fans said they are the favorites for this worldcup. lol. FACEPALM. I really wonder how they managed 80 runs.

  • POSTED BY Rp-Neel on | September 23, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    India batting still needs some work!!

  • POSTED BY muttydoc on | September 23, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    England still living in the same dream of short pitched bowling to dismantle and intimidate india. They have to simply recognise that this is T20 and not test match and any short pitched ball is way easier to hit than a full length ball when the batsman is looking to score each ball. Also Indians now know what to expect. I can't believe a team which has a world class spinner do not have a clue against spin in a hardly turning pitch like today's. Welcome to India for the test matches! Broad should not be even in the team, He doesn't take wickets in this format and gives away too much and not even as fast as he was before!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    now msd will face the biggest problem for upcoming matches that whom to select from ashwin , piyush , bhajji :D

  • POSTED BY Arunnrajj on | September 23, 2012, 18:38 GMT

    Gambhir Plays, India Wins!! :)

  • POSTED BY GLORY2INDIA on | September 23, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    this is the trailer of the film thats gonna release on NOVEMBER 15 @ Ahmedabad and end in Nagpur...cant wait to see it.

  • POSTED BY Pappu_bhai on | September 23, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    England has recievd What they requested for.India has defeated Afgan only by almost 20 runs.But England Almost 90 runs.Does that mean Afgan is far better than England in spinning conditions?I believe other teams will see this match and SL will be licking their lips.Well Put Herath and Mendis.SL is through.WI will beat them for sure. And Newzeland If Taylor/Mccullum fires thats game over for England.Am not sure for the third one but Sure for the first 2.Eng wont advance to Semis.We have always proved we are better than England except that 4-0 defeat in England.India is far ahead of England in any other conditions and in spinning Condition they cant even challenge India.So better luck when England study to play spin.Bye bye from this world cup.

  • POSTED BY kasi_214 on | September 23, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    afghan fans don't worry your team played well in both games but they lost a simple line, singles and twos they never tried to run they went on to hit on boundaries. it has worked against India and not worked against England that's all. next time if they improve I except them to be in the super eight and even the semis and next level. all the best afghanisthan

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Yes,it might be a dead rubber as said by pietersen, but it is still a INTERNATIONAL game which england lost by a record margin and very embarrassingly!!!!

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | September 23, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Going to see this thread peak at 400 comments now that Eng have lost an meaningless game, but a game none the less. Simply put Ind out played Eng in every department no hiding from the fact. Now it is on to the super eights, lets see who is still standing at the end. Is this the long awaited return of Harbby too?

  • POSTED BY AlfAlpha on | September 23, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Well done England!! We won 3-1 on the number of sixes scored.

  • POSTED BY vakkaraju on | September 23, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    Welcome back Irfan. Bowling again with some Pace. Almost looks like he did when he first started in Australia. Now to get him into the test team.

  • POSTED BY Electric_L0ser_Wacko on | September 23, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    wow ... that was one hell of a beating...so much for the famed bowling line up.. and if watching SL struggle against pace against SA was embarrassing ... then SL fans can breathe easy as the worst batting display was on offer today against the mediocre bowling attack that India has... to say the least the English were playing like clowns in a circus !!! if this is the kind of display that we're goin to see against spin -then England might as well stay home this winter...cos it ain't gonna be pleasant come November....

  • POSTED BY le_stephenois on | September 23, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    lol, poms are unlucky their Super 8 group is with WI, NZ and SL and not SA and AUS. all three of their next opponent have class spinners and if they can't play Chawla they are in for a world of hurt. serves them right going in with no Cook, Bell and KP.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    Yeah!!Biggest win for INDIA in T20 Internationals and Lowest score and biggest and humiliating defeat for england.Poms truly played like school boys today.

  • POSTED BY TrueFactors on | September 23, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    England is humiliated because they don't have Bell and KP who can play spin. In fact, England could avoid ugly record of T20's lowest score only because of Dhoni who brought Dinda back in bowling. England could have a harder time against Afghanistan as well, if Luke was failed. If Afghan team had first batting, they had a great chance to win. They were exploded only because of pressure, because Luke took England above par. The way, Piyush bowled today, if he will keep bowling like this with two slips and one cover position, then it will be very hard for all teams to play out his 4-overs without big loss.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    Please bring back Kevin Peterson , England can't play world class spin bowling.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    Thats the way to do it , and these english said we are minnows sorrry those minnows thrashed you by 90 runs .no KP no england ,thats it . Now a problem of plenty for msd

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:28 GMT

    i think Srilankan fans are more disappointed than English fans..could have been easily seen on their faces during the match :)

  • POSTED BY dariuscorny on | September 23, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    still feel Eng are better than Pak

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | September 23, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    Coming to India's performance, they were a real TEAM out there. England looked like a group of individuals trying so hard to resemble a team. I sincerely request all those English fans contemplating a trip to India this winter to stay back. It will be a humiliation for England and believe me... this wasn't even a spinning pitch LOL. Absolute HAMMERING !!! Now I know English supporters will say this wasn't really an important game and all that, PFFFF. Such excuses cannot mask their deficiency against spin bowling. Today all spinners were QUALITY ! Still the fast bowling department looks pathetic. Dinda bowled some rubbish to Finn and Dernback. India could have actually finished them off for 60. I am sure Dinda will miss out next time. Also, some team selection headaches for India come their first super 8 game against AUS. Do India play 3 spinners and 2 fast bowlers ??? Have to wait and see.

  • POSTED BY Baundele on | September 23, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    I was so surprised so see that all of a sudden each and every English batsman has forgot how to play spin. They are certainly much better than this. Their bowling also looked aimless. Samit Patel was dropped after a terrific performance in the last match. Really bad management and disheartening for cricket fans. Waste of money!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    England bamboozled by Indian spinners. Tho were clueless as to how to play spin. England after today's performance have a tough time ahead this winter in India.

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 23, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    Piers Morgan is going crazy over twitter. Bt all is not lost for england. They would be play wi and nz an sl . Probably would get a real turning track against Sl . Bt they can win against Wi and Nz and go through. Shortened games would also help if any . Bt beyond semifinal looks impossible with this kind of batting.

  • POSTED BY Smack-DAT on | September 23, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    @Muhammad Umair: See this is hw you beat england and @WickyRoy.paklover: Yes,dont be surprised now..it really happened..we thrashed POMS with our so called weak bowling..and England..this is just the beginning,we have not finished yet..more humiliations awaits in INDIA..and it would be more than last year ODI whitewash..we will make sure that after ENG return back from IND..nobody will ever dare to speak about the 2011 tour again..

  • POSTED BY i_am on | September 23, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    n super funny thng was Stuart Broad interview in presentation wher he was repeating only one thng it dsnt matter we r gng to super 8s haha his face was speaking evrythng else lol

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | September 23, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    Heck, this pitch wasn't even a turner. It was a fairly GOOD pitch. England simply were POOR and looked like MINNOWS against top class spin bowling. Welcome back BHAJJI !!! He's looking a much better bowler after his stint with Essex. This is what first class cricket does to players. Anyway, it was PAINFUL to see Stuart Broad adamantly say his team played spin 'WELL'. I mean... if this is the way spin bowling was meant to be played then my grandma would have opened her own batting academy years back. Mr. Broad, you are living in your own world of delusion. Why not simply admit you are WEAK against quality spin bowling. England will get more of the same in India later this year. There won't be reprieve from India.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:16 GMT

    bhajji is back, now both england and australia headache starts

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | September 23, 2012, 18:16 GMT

    Pretty lame from Eng here. Although anything can happen in this format I would of liked to see some more fight from the lads. For those predicting Ind walkover in the test arena all Ind fans need to do is completly change Eng TEST batting card to this one and im sure you are right. Good win for Ind congrats.....Eng/Ind both through to the super eights now it gets serious.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:14 GMT

    is spin such a rare term for the english men....indians replied to the boucers with pull and hook shots whereas the english players looked like Ailene on the cricket ground....

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | September 23, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    A total domination from team India in all the departments. Hopefully they will continue this form. And Bhajji, welcome back and wishing u bhaijan all the very best ahead. As for England, they are a very good side but I think they underestimated the Indian batting lineup and bombarded them with short balls, unfortunately for them that backfired. And the lesser said about their ability to bat spin the better. I hope that English fans and team would seriously take this exposed weakness. Otherwise, the English team would get absolutely humiliated later this year. Whatever be the format, if your entire team cant bat even 15 overs, than its a serious concern. I wish them good luck for their next matches in this tournament, for now they should just forget about the today's game.

  • POSTED BY crindex on | September 23, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    England sorely missed KP. He was the backbone of their team when they won last T20 World cup. India has problem of plenty now. Hope they dont goof up.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    English players don't play good against spin bowlers but today Irfan took wickets in his first two overs. Poor performance by England.

  • POSTED BY Perera32 on | September 23, 2012, 18:11 GMT

    Well done India, it was so funny watching England getting destroyed. Some of the Balls weren't even spinning and they kept getting out. So happy Sri Lanka have New Zealand, WI and England in their group. Im sure SL will play Dhananjaya, Herath and the 2 Mendis vs England. Just Imagine if India opened the bowling with spin, England would be 30 all out then.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 23, 2012, 18:08 GMT

    Congratulations India and well played to their batsmen and spinners.Have to admit England were abysmal in all departments today with the only positive being Swann's bowling. To be honest I'm not sure I'd change much batting wise.The only real option is having Lumb in for Craig (with one of the JB's keeping wicket) or Hales.Craig actually played better today but again if he's not hitting the 4s/sixes he's not scoring. I kind of like the left/right hand combo. Morgan is totally off the pace and all our batsmen looked poor today. Re bowling , I'd definitely bring in at least one - if not 2 - more spinning options. I'd say Finn or Dernbach should make way for Briggs (probably Finn) and possibly Bres making way for Patel - depending on conditions ,but I really was not impressed with just leaving us one spinning option esp as Wright could bowl some overs if spin is not working.The one consolation is that the result does not matter as far as points are concerned but it still hurts

  • POSTED BY MasterClass on | September 23, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    If Afghanistan had held on to their catches they could have edged past India, and with this drubbing by Inda, the reigning T20 champions and #1 team (HAHAHA) England would be catching an early flight home!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    england is no more a contender for T20 trophy , more over u r welcomed to india for a whitewash in test, be ready 2 taste u'r own formula

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    please somebody criticize shrikant's selection, what a mediocre induan players, even the substitutes beat the he ll out of england,.pls publish

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Awaiting the upcoming Winter series at Home against England.. Give them a slight spinning track.. We can win 4-0 without dust bowls too... And they have dropped their only player capable of taking their side to big wins in KP...

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | September 23, 2012, 18:06 GMT

    England, this is why you need KP in your team.

  • POSTED BY SnowSnake on | September 23, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    I don't like T20 all that much because it makes professional cricketers play like ametures. Scores like 80 all out does not say anything about a team when strike rates get too high. In either case, one thing is sure, it is now safe to say that England is not winning this tournament. Over last 5 years, when England plays India in shorter form of cricket on sub-continent pitches its probability of winning is nearly 10%.

  • POSTED BY India_boy on | September 23, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    this is what I call blessing in disguise! India won against Afg with difficulty while Eng won with ease, which allowed for two opposite reactions from the team. India tightened the belt while Eng became complacent. rest is, as they say, is History!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    Good all round display by India. Its good to see the likes of Rohit Sharma & Harbhajan do well. Eng made a big mistake by not including players like KP & Bell in the line up. They're really good and have experience of playing in the subcontinet. The English top 4 looks undercooked for these conditions.

  • POSTED BY lobsterchampion on | September 23, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    Congrats to Team India for such a convincing victory. England failed trail by spin miserably. This is one of the most convincing performance by Indian team I have seen. This is the sign of things to come for England when they tour India a short while from now. I dont think England will fail this badly in test series, remember they will have Cook, Trott and Bell who are good players of spin. Coming back to T20 WC, India has maintained their perfect record in group stages. They have never lost in the group stages in any T20 WC. Hopefully their Super 8 campaign will not be as bad as in previous two editions where they failed to register even a single win. India are in tougher group though with Australia, South Africa and most probably Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | September 23, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    A format and a venue dominated by spin, and England go with one spinner! What genius decided on that tactic? Broad?

  • POSTED BY knan on | September 23, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    Today's match has shown that all the Indian fast bowlers except Irfan are struggling in this tournament. Considering that the Super-8 will be played at the same stadium, will Dhoni consider playing 3 spinners and one fast bowler in the Super-8 stage ?

  • POSTED BY jackthelad on | September 23, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    There's nothing much to say, India batted and bowled well, in general England didn't; what's more interesting in the long-term (for an England supporter) is that over the last six months or so, England have returned to being the team of lemmings who batted as if they'd left coffee getting cold in the dressing room - it's a sort of old-style Union frame of mind, I suppose - 'one out, all out'. They had seemed to overcome this for a few years, but now it's come back with a vengeance and supporting England cricket has again become the savage amusement it was through most of the years I've followed them.

  • POSTED BY cover_drive12345 on | September 23, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    All the Indians come out here(: I don't think there is any word to describe England's batting, and I don't think the selection of Samit Patel would have helped. They desperately need a senior batsmen in the middle order whether it be Ian Bell or even You-Know-Who. India did completely outplay India, but I'm sure not all teams play spin as badly as England do. Don't have any clue what will happen this winter, all I know is that it doesn't look good for England. All I can say now is that I'm slightly embarrassed to be British...

  • POSTED BY vpk23 on | September 23, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    GEE INDIA WOULD HAVE WON THE MATCH EVEN IF THEY HAD NOT HIT A SINGLE BOUNDRY IN THEIR INNINGS

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    IT IS DIFFICULT TO FAULT DHONI THOUGH OPENING WITH PATHAN WAS A BIT TOO MUCH. YUVRAJ SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED AS OPENER. GAMBHIR WAS SLOW. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD PLAYER OF SPIN. HE SHOULD HAVE ATTACKED SWAN. SINCE HE DID NOT DO THAT OR COULD NOT, KOHLI HAD TO TAKE THE RISK. 45 IN 38 BALLS IS DEFINITELY SLOW IN T-20. HAD IT BEEN 60, INDIA WOULD HAVE CROSSED 180 AND COULD HAVE HEAPED MORE HUMILIATION ON THE POMMIES.

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | September 23, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    According to one of England's media scribes whoes name I wont mention, he claimed that Buttler would be one of the greatest T20 batsman ever and was the one to watch in this tournament. This journalist must like watching low skilled, overrated batsman with woeful international averages.....Same old story and the same old song, over-hype the average talent.

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | September 23, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    Joes Buttlers plays a good over...Whoa english media made a new Hero....Johny Bairstaw played a lil cameo....Whoa a new star in the making.....then england plays india.....Boom sent back to reality check. What was that? My school team players plays spin better than that.... believe me we have way way better spinners than what Indian played today! Gawd that was horrible!

  • POSTED BY Sakthiivel on | September 23, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    Where is KP mate ? Ho he is in studios !! Thanks England.

  • POSTED BY Akayar22 on | September 23, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    Well englad tried their best to match the record of Afghanistan in this w/c and managed to reach 80. now iam happy from our afg team england showed that this can happen to every team. Good luck next time afg. And congrats team india

  • POSTED BY RISHI2016 on | September 23, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    india tried hard getting defeated to avoid australia and sa..sadly they won and have to face both of them in super 8...all the best India...

  • POSTED BY christened on | September 23, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    @kunalx I am laughing out loudly on you buddy...... remember your yesterdays post?

  • POSTED BY king_lion on | September 23, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    great win by India. lets enjoy the win and cheer up for our team. dont forget to show some respect to england players. this is just a match. it can happen to any team. it has happened to us. a mature indian fan would cherish the victory and restrain himself/herself from bullying english because we know how bad it feels. lets keep the rivalry to the pitch only.

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | September 23, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Well done to India; this thumping win was meekly handed to you on a plate. I appreciated watching your spinners go to work. Good to see Harbhajan back in the fold, bowling better than ever; surely he's undroppable now! I knew that 170 was going to be more than enough, especially when Swann's figures revealed that playing quality spin bowling on this track was going to be no picnic: his figures were the half-way clue to the outcome of the match. In truth, there was nothing there for the quicks. Thus, the writing was on the wall before England faced a ball, but I did expect England to reach 120-140 with some disciplined batting. Gooch is England's full time batting coach & the evidence of his work was evident in the cross-bat nonsense with which England's top order self-destructed. What's wrong with playing straight & using the the wrists late? It seemed to me that England's top order didn't even watch the ball. All in all, a reality check for England, but not telling us anything new!

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | September 23, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Where are the Rohit sharma bashers?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    its a good day after all, the elder bro (india) and younger bro (pakistan), both had a good day, hope they both meet in finals

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    It's good for SL because if they get semi-final berth (would be cataclysmic if they don't) they are gonna face bowling teams in batting wickets, meaning they will have a chance against ruthless Saf pace battery. But if in any case WBT come to semi's (which i think is pretty remote) Srilankans are gonna face barrage of innuendo from WBT fan's that SL got through easy, just like in the last 50 over world cup!(which will be absolutely correct,but they will probably not get that chance!) In other words Dear Mahela!, the god's have worked in mysterious ways by putting you in this position by blessing you with a defeat in 14 over giggle! you cannot eff this up! i would have to hide in shame if SL did not qualify to another SEMI FINAL! Who's gonna bet against my prediction?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    HUMILIATED, From now on India should play all the three spinners

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    Guys, cut out all the comparisons. Traditionally - India are only interested in being marginally better than the opposition. We therefore have a team that struggled to beat NZ / Zimbabwe in India....and then, beat Steve Waugh's all-conquering Australia out of nowhere.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    They are certainly missing the brilliance of Kevin Peterson....without him they are worst than Zimbabwe ...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    afghanistan was better than england. now its a safe bet that england will loose 4-0 in the test series against india and all being innings defeats. if u still call indian bowling as club level,then get well soon:)

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    well played india. congrats from PAKISTAN!

  • POSTED BY Rastus on | September 23, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    I wonder if KP has stopped laughing yet.

    How important is a harmonious dressing room when you're getting crushed like that.

  • POSTED BY SimplyHK on | September 23, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    Great win by India, Though Luke Wright Lbw is big question mark but things were in India's favour, India did well in all depts. I'm glad to see Gauti back in form. However Congrats both Pak and India.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | September 23, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    Well played India, England's new, talented but inexperienced top order failed miserably. Deserved victory.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    INDIA vs ENGLAND test match.. waiting for the fun to begin...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:50 GMT

    I seriously hope that India goes with 3 spinners and two fast bowlers(Zak and IP) against non-subcontinental team and revert to 2 spinners (Bhajji and Ashwin) against subcontinental teams and two fast bowlers. The winner of this tournament I guess would be a sub-continental team or South Africa. All matches consisting of these teams will provide a lot of excitement and entertainment. I hope WI too show their capacity in coming matches.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:49 GMT

    This Dinda experiment MUST be stopped. Good for Chawla and Bhajji. Dinda out and Ashwin in for the next match - no other changes if India wants to win. Sehwag is not a T20 specialist by any means and Zaheer is past his prime and showing it. The Sachin of Indian bowling must limit his playing time due to rest. Sehwag must only play Test matches. BTW - Tendulkar, have you retired yet??

  • POSTED BY MSCologne on | September 23, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    Can't wait for the Test Series! England are going to get beaten really badly. They just can't play spin. India should play three frontline spinners and Zaheer.

  • POSTED BY Smithie on | September 23, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 I seem to remember in the past you have been a supporter of the BCCI rejection of Hawkeye as a valid predictor of the ball tracking ?

  • POSTED BY kumarkunal on | September 23, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    @ SurlyCynic: Agreed with you. I pitty on ECB to make a 'Happy dressing room' by sacrificing one of the best batsmen of all bowling attack. God knows when they will understand the value of KP. Any way 1 thing ECB has achieved. They have not only made their dressing room 'Lauging', but they have also made planning to entertain all opposition team, to have a full 1.5 hours of laughing at them in this tournament.

    I will definitely not miss this laughing riot which ECB has provided us, and will watch all matches of England, laughing at their batsmen, the way they are going to play Mendis, Narine in next round.

  • POSTED BY indiasupbangalore on | September 23, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    revenge is so sweet , defeat of summer of 2011 is slowly starting to heal for me.

  • POSTED BY cricketoverkill on | September 23, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    Swing track bullies just don't have any clue against spin. It's high time the curators in england start preparing spin friendly tracks.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    India has moved to No 3 in ICC T20 rankings .. SA goes to the top and End pushed to 2nd... SL is below India now .. Rightly where they should be

  • POSTED BY cricket-spoiled-me on | September 23, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    @Mohammad Omid: Bro, that's not a good comparision. On the other hand INDIAN women made 100 in a t20 today.lol, Does it mean that england are worse than indian women team.

  • POSTED BY sakib2012 on | September 23, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    England are too over rated and 2day it showed lol, where was Luke Wright 2day who is meant 2 be the start batter off the tournament? And graeme Swann a better bowler than saeed ajmal hahaha yhh compare his 1 wicket 2 ajmals 4 today nuff said! absolutely loved england getting hammered 2day well done india

  • POSTED BY ATIMAYANK on | September 23, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS @ Waheed Ahmad.. yea right :P @

  • POSTED BY baranasai on | September 23, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    I think we as Indian supporters should be quiet and humble and accept the win like any defeat/as a good true sportsmen//No doubt Indians defied my predictions about winning but I did request the indian team to include Our Bhajii persistently.it gives wider options for MS/But heavens sake dont bring in Zac for now as he is not a 20/20 Bowler( he is more a better 50 overs man with no disrespect to Zac).I wish Tiwari gets a chance so that we get more positive options for MS to go to super 8/well doen India //Still I dont underrate England for they are still a class act

  • POSTED BY Smithie on | September 23, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    It appears that the ICC have scheduled 3 three of the top four teams in one group for the Super Eights contrary to the formula originally set out before the start of the tournament. Is the schedule currently being shown on Cricinfo correct?

  • POSTED BY Narkovian on | September 23, 2012, 17:44 GMT

    That was the worst batting display I have witnessed since I played (very bad) club cricket. At least then we all tried to play cricket. This lot seems obsessed with playing "trick shots". Just play normal shots like you were taught to play at school. not this ridiculous nonsense. Doesn't bode too well for when the proper crcike starts in November does it ?

  • POSTED BY kc69 on | September 23, 2012, 17:43 GMT

    I' still not happy at 60 for 9 i wish England could have got the world record of lowest total(They just saved themselves)

  • POSTED BY Agila on | September 23, 2012, 17:43 GMT

    Well played India! Keep it up! Excellent display of spin and fast bowling from Harbhajan/Chawla and Irfan! Flat tracks aint easy to play against "club" bowler eh!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    England:not capable of playing quality spinners on dry surfaces and this has been proved again and again.....and again today

  • POSTED BY Brumby90 on | September 23, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    England again showing they are nothing like the top team in the world in any format. Ok, can someone tell me how on Earth all the teams coming first in group stage are in the same super 8 group and play each other????????????????????? This is not making nay logical sense. It seems to be that losing is the best thing to have done.

  • POSTED BY Dheeraj_Shetty on | September 23, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    @SirSobers haha, i hope you comment again :P. between England looked clueless against spin bowling, I wonder how are they gonna cope up when they come to India, because Dhoni's gonna make sure that the Indian pitches turn like hell. Seriously the English should have no expectations in India then they would not be disappointed when they loose 4-0.

  • POSTED BY kc69 on | September 23, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    For all English fans...This was just a trailer the full movie is coming next month.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    WAT A WAY TO CRUSH THE ENGLISHMEN.....INDIANS R GONNA LOVE THIS.......

  • POSTED BY Cric_info_pak on | September 23, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    after watching pak / nz game when india post 170+ i thought this will be one more exciting game, that y i like aussie they never lost like this , well played india very poor by england look like watching a minnow game

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:40 GMT

    What a match it turned out to be. Hats off to the spinners. Gutsy...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    lol, rofl, england, love u lot guys, flat track bullies, england will win the world cup for sure. today they humiliated india, lol, rofl, they cant even play the secondary level spin from indian bowler, how about ashwin, bhajji against england

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    I am not here to teach anyone anything, but guys just enjoy the game. Too much sledging had been done here by both ends, its not the matter who humiliated whom, but the things that matter is who played well on a given day. We should definitely cheer for our respected teams, but we should also pay respect to the opponent team as well as supporter. GOOD LUCK everyone and enjoy the tournament.

  • POSTED BY warneneverchuck on | September 23, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    I can't imagine how horribly ENG and Aus play spin.

  • POSTED BY rob_damn on | September 23, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    Ahhh... well dont forget guys it was juss sort of practice match for us... but a matter of concern for england who took it damn seriously.... Also I am juss frustrated at the groupings in super-8 which were allready fixed prior to the start of the tournament. Ind, Pak, SA and Australia in one group while the other group is full with comparatively weaker sides(all loosing their group matches). What was the point of playing group matches (except eliminating the minnows). Goodluck to team india as only two teams from this action packed group can go to semis...

  • POSTED BY lankavigi on | September 23, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    Great performance from India, they needed this after a near dismall performance against the Afghans. The pitches in Premadasa are completely different from the one in hambantota. Hambantota was too seam orientated. This pitch was completely different. India will be playing almost all their games in Premadasa. SL may not even play in Premadasa. Pathetic from SLC and ICC. SL have to play in tough conditions, while teams like India and Pakistan play in near home conditions.

  • POSTED BY senthil25 on | September 23, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    sirsobers. what r u going to say now..........? india no need to have power to beat minnows. india played their best 11 with afghan. becouse afghan is good team. now they play with their optional players. but they win u becouse england are minnows. he he he...............

  • POSTED BY Prakmca on | September 23, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    It's an oridinary bowling attack... Since it is England India managed to win this. With this kind of bowling, it's diffucult to beat side like Srilanka, pakisthan, SA and Aus. Harbajan, I guess it's one off game. No need to forget the way be bowled against PAK in warm up match. Dinda - another useless player at Int. level. EVen IF Aswin had played today, he could have picked up the wiickets. There is nothing like Harbajan's doosra, thesesra won the match.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    IT WAS NOT AFGHANISTANS FAULT IT WAS BAD LUCK AGAINST ENGLAND.

  • POSTED BY indianmano on | September 23, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Before Match started - KP- England is going on winning streak and india is making sure that they reach Super 8's. What happened now . England were bamboozled by spin... England may be good on fast and bouncy pitches but on Subcontinent pitches, they become a cropper. India without ashwin can dismiss england by 80 runs. If he comes back, well tough times ahead for England when they tour India later this year.

  • POSTED BY GLORY2INDIA on | September 23, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Indian critics will now say that we just got lucky!! fact of the matter is England cant play spin....absolutely rubbish!!cant wait for them to tour India in november...might as well stay back in England and enjoy the winter snows!

  • POSTED BY androyuvi on | September 23, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    wonder howmuch this England team would have scored if Ashwin was playing.!

  • POSTED BY TSJ07 on | September 23, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    Its not this match or tournament but ENG shud worry abt next test series in India.This is the sign of things to come and now Dhoni and co. know very well what is required to avenge 4-0 humiliation.And KP must be smiling in studio as now ENG captain,coach and Eng cricket bosses will be begging to him to join the team. Also I felt that as per media report India will be dished out short balls but many forget that out of subcontinent teams only India is having good players against short balls in all formats except few like Raina.Try bowling short to Kohli,Rohit,Yuvi,Dhoni at ur own peril.Ghambir,Sehwag are decent against short balls.None IND batman got out against short bowling but couple of ENG did get out.AUS made mistake by bowling short to India early this century and paid the price few times.However both ENG and Aus did the homework and bowled full length fast seaming balls which caught Indian off guard coz they were expecting short balls.

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | September 23, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    England really got what they deserve, even Afghanistan played Indian bowlers better than them..............its time for flower and his team to put their egos aside and do what is good for the team.

  • POSTED BY agarwallove2 on | September 23, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    @Shan156 -- Not really, I'd think Zaheer, Harbhajan, Ashwin and Ojha are going to be the bowlers when England come here, if Harbhajan bowls well (and by that, I don't mean just take wickets against players trying to play their shots in a T20). Ashwin will (and should) hold on to his place. People tend to forget that he is just 9 tests old... he is still learning and he will get much better as time progresses. He can prise batsmen out and with his batting, he will be a great asset to the team in years to come. He should continue.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    hahahahaha OMG 90 runs margin that's huge in T20.... I Think graeme swann should do all the net bowling to england batsmen when they are in a subcontinent conditions...... India surely have a weak seam bowling line up but england have a worst batting line up against spin, on which both these teams need to work harder !!!

  • POSTED BY vertical on | September 23, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    I was quite surprised by India's bowling performance.Good changes by Dhoni to give the bench a chance.I felt England panicked too many horizontal bat shots to spin.If Bhajji is in form India has a good chance.Considering it's just 20 overs India should go in with 5 bowlers

  • POSTED BY groundreality on | September 23, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    England. Spin. Dance. Utter cluelessness. Tell me something new!

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    Great to see Harbhajan back and great job by Chawala too. Excellent all-round work by Pathan. England are very fortunate to still be in contention after this match. Bowling is not India's strength (it has never been) but this Indian bowling attack eviscerated England.

    On the other hand I am not sure if total of 170 was such a great score on this slow(ish) wicket. With the batting line up that they have - the par score has to be 185 for them.

    For the next match India should leave Balaji and Dinda out. Dinda's short balls may work on Indian players in domestic cricket but he is easy pickings for tall players who have played short balls all their life.

  • POSTED BY SL_4EVER on | September 23, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    KP-LESS ENGLAND IS LIKE A TOOTHLESS TIGER...!!!! ON THE OTHER HAND FLAT TRACK BULLIES ARE LIKE SUPER HERO'S ON A DUST FLAT TRACK....!!!!

  • POSTED BY Sarangarajan on | September 23, 2012, 17:32 GMT

    Good riddance that Shewag and Zaheer were rested for the game today.In their present form , they can as well be shown the flight to go home and prepare for test series along with Sachin. It very pertinent that they are kept out of the super eight matches as well.It is not any coincidence that the team performed well without them. Harbhajan has somehow invented his magic at least against the England batsmen.It is better Dhoni plays three spinners dropping Dinda and geting in Ashwin in for the subsequent matches.

  • POSTED BY praveen4honestremark on | September 23, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    Congratulations Team India!! I love you. I am happy with the performance. Keep improving...I am really happy. No words to express, so going to sleep and enjoy the moments of this match in my thoughts. Analysis later :)

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I AM AN AFGHAN ,WHAT WANT TO SAY IS IT WAS NOT ODD THAT AFGHANISTAN JUST MADE 80 RUNS AGAINST ENGLAND ITS CRICKET IT HAPPENS SEE WHAT ENGLAND DID AGAINST INDIA WHILE WE PLAYED WELL AGAINST INDIA.

  • POSTED BY MENDIS_Forever on | September 23, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Hi..I'm a Sri Lankan.Congrats to India for this victory.No hatred to England,but sorry to say..they can't win this tournament.We don't hate India.Some of our lankans may criticize you.But just don't care it.Let's stop this rivalry..ok...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    I said it and it happened, even afghan spinners troubled england, but there have been some dropped chances, but mighty indians, showed their small trailer of the upcoming movie to england

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | September 23, 2012, 17:28 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS & Waheed Ahmed. Say that again now! You predicted Eng will win and they got thrashed by 90. To be honest I expected the game to be very close and India coming on top but this is a massacre. They were shot out like ducks in a shooting range.Mendis and Ajmal would be licking their lips in anticipation. As for Luke Wright, he was plumb. Hawkeye showed the ball hitting middle and leg at 3/4th height. Finally this win is dedicated to those(esp. Front-Foot-Lunge) who predicted Eng will thrash us! I can't wait for the test series in India!

  • POSTED BY Mujji_28 on | September 23, 2012, 17:27 GMT

    A very good performance by Indian team. specially it was Bhajjis day as we all were expecting him to perform. Congrats Bhajji for taking 4-12 in 4. As a pakistani, congrats to team India and all Indian fans. I am looking forward for India - Pakistan super 8 match. Lets see if we can beat Indians this time (as we were unsuccessful in last 7 attempts in WCs). All the best to Indian team

  • POSTED BY iamgroot on | September 23, 2012, 17:27 GMT

    Nice win..didnt expect india to win THIS handsomely against Eng especially after their last performance against AFG. This match was cut short by some superb spin bowling by bhajji and chawla. Both selections raised many eye brows. Oh my god once again Dhoni is right about his decisions. Except Dinda and to some extent balaji everyone else performed. Our captain knows the best because he is the best .. has been there , done it before , doing it again. Now our next games are against Australia, SA , Pak. All big games , tough games coming up. What will be the combination? Ashwin+Bhajji+Chawla?+ Zaheer? ..really this is a powerpacked performance by india.. absolutely rubbish batting by Eng , nothing wrong with wicket . just bad batting by Eng and exceptional bowling from India. It became a mismatch in the end. India just rolled over Eng , crushed, demolished Eng with Bowling. Congrats India.. Good luck for next games

  • POSTED BY Ind_Rsa on | September 23, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    Group of death:ind,Rsa,aus and pak in same group.Hope ind and rsa qualifies for semis.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | September 23, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    CONGRATS INDIA !!! What a game by the men in blue !!! England looked WORSE than Afghanistan. I think this game is ENOUGH to tell English fans what's awaiting their team in India this winter. England will be SPUN out during that tour. Not even an inch will be given. England CANNOT play spin. They need to go to school now. Heck, even Afghanistan would have fared well if they played 4 spinners instead of fast bowlers. Bhajji.. WHAT A CHAMPION !! So humble, modest and generous in his words. I hope that's enough to silence some of India's detractors on these forums. England need to work on their batting in TRUE subcontinental conditions. Otherwise they are in for some humiliation. Well played INDIA !! and God bless.

  • POSTED BY Ajayvs on | September 23, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    Well in the euphoria let's not forget that we still have some un-resolved issues mainly the death bowling, but if the wickets are going to stay this way it will be a huge advantage to India in the coming 3 matches in Colombo.

  • POSTED BY sreek09 on | September 23, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    Well done India. It's nice to see India's knack of coming good on ICC tournaments when it matters, the fact that it's played in subcontinent helps though. To be frank this England batting line up only have few bits and pieces T20 batsmen, not even a single proper batsman who can adapt to changing condition and opposition. Where is Ian Bell or KP?, it's funny that they have great players like Andy Flower and Graham Gooch in their coaching staff and they did realize the importance of having a proper batsman in the lineup? On KP, thanks ECB for keeping him out, your ego is not quite enough for this team to win in subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY CricketFundas on | September 23, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    Just looked at the highlights again...it was genuinely good bowling, on a good pitch. There was no square turn or anything of that sort, but just some poor poor batting from England. England sorely missed KP and Bell.

    Well, India need to put this win behind them and look to the next game. I'm hoping that India play all 3 spinners in the next game.

  • POSTED BY kevinpp2412 on | September 23, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    they need kevin pietersen desperatly !!! this is wake up call for ECB..... they need the service of kevin pietersen to lift this T20 WC.... n the upcoming tour of india

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    Stuart Broad before the game : "Whether it was a must-win for us on Sunday or whether we don't have to win to go through - it won't change our approach to the game"

    After the Game : " It was worth looking at playing one fewer spinner because we could afford to lose"

  • POSTED BY vkypak on | September 23, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    tailor made pitch for spin bowlers....poor curator...gift of icc to india who made that kind of pitch...not gud for cricket but for india... england lacking solid batsman in their lineup, they have all hitters none of them have gud technique they will struggle against top bowling sides....

  • POSTED BY mmsraja1987 on | September 23, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    So the "fast track bullies" are once again drubbed by an India B side. Clearly one team which never deserved to be on top of the ranking table (be it T20 or Test). It will always be better for them to sharpen their cricketing skills before improvising their commentary/sledging skill.

  • POSTED BY Rukky on | September 23, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    India has finally thrashed England by 90 runs. Before that India never has beaten any team more than 50 runs. Great win.... Indian gonna win this world cup.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    what goes around comes around laughing on Afghanistan performance look what happen to them self lol Thanks Cricket india

  • POSTED BY vkypak on | September 23, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    tailor made pitch for spin bowlers....poor curator...gift of icc to india who made that kind of pitch...not gud for cricket but for india...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    90 run win ..voo hoo, now thats how India beats the opposition.Where are the SL fans who bashed India after the match against Afg? Atleast India topped the group with a emphatic win over the defending champions

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 23, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    B/W HARBHAJAN IS THANKING FOR HIS COUNTY SIDE ESSEX TOO .

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | September 23, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    If there is any competition for who are worst players against spin i bet nobody can even stand against poms.

  • POSTED BY aurorion on | September 23, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    The only England player who can play good spin well, who has plenty of experience in T20 matches in subcontinent pitches, is in the commentary box for this tournament. So this result is not at all surprising. English fans who passionately argue for team unity and camaraderie and team spirit - this is what 11 average players with a lot of those things will get you.

  • POSTED BY bhrangi on | September 23, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    @England: Welcome to Asia., IND , SL , PA, AUS/SA were the favorites for the cup.,

  • POSTED BY jasonpete on | September 23, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    So much for comparing the Indian - afghan performances and England - afghan performances by few England fans.Its always better not to underestimate anybody.Is England team bad or Indian team better? I would go for the latter .well played India.But your fast bowlers are not good enough.England need to learn spin first and they looked awful while playing some shots.best of luck to both teams for future matches.

  • POSTED BY phoenixsteve on | September 23, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    Well its over and a really PATHETIC performance from England! Really really Pathetic! Fortunately it didn't count for anything but England have confirmed everybody's suspicion that they can't play spin! Yet they have one of the greatest ever spin bowlers on their coaching staff? As predicted Bresnan (aka Tim the Donkey) looks totally out of his depth and confirmed his ranking as a mediium pace trundler who can't bat either! Maybe this will be the last we see of him? I really hope so.... The team selection was wrong and if they wanted to experiment why didn't they try 3 spinners? Swann was the only England bowler to control things. Maybe this drubbing will teach them some valuable lessons? I haven't had the 'pleasure' yet of listening to KPs expert views but boy do England need him in the middle? Congratulations to India who made the T20 World champs look like world chumps! Unfortunately for India I don't think they'll encounter such an inept side in Sri Lanka again? COME on ENGLAND!!!

  • POSTED BY Abhi_2410 on | September 23, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    Yes really empathetic win by team india. !!! awesome bowling by harbhajan singh........! really looked very confident and pumped up !!... seems hard for Ashwin to come back for next game...!! welcome turbonator.....

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | September 23, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    lol.. This is just the trailer that poms are going to face in India this winter.This si called real thrashing. I suggest the Indian curators to prepare dustbowls from day one so the test match could be over in 2 days not even 3. Lol.. Expecting a reply from my dear friends (0-5 Wombats, JG, A_Vacant_Brain and landl47) where are you hiding?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    @ Vikum72.. see you below comments bro.. and do reply since the match is over! lets hear your REASONS!!

    Posted by Vikum72 on (September 22 2012, 14:52 PM GMT) All commenting against SL; this is a T20 tournament, not a 7/7. SL will show their metal in the super 8. To all the Indian fans who are so quick to denounce SL after this joke of a game, lets wait until tomorrows game between India & England is played.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | September 23, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    The Test side will have some different faces but this does not bode well for the upcoming tour of India. Lots of people will say that England just can't play spin. Maybe they're right but I'm not sure that it's that they can't but rather that they just seem to be taking completely the wrong approach. Just like in UAE (the Tests at least) they seem to feel that they have to change their game drastically but the changes they are making are simply not working but they seem determined to stick with them regardless. I don't get it. I really don't. I don't expect many good results until that mindset changes.

  • POSTED BY AverageJoe2 on | September 23, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    MS surly has to play 2/3 spiners given the sucess against ENG and the conditions in the sub continent. Other than zaheer and irfan, who can also bat, the average fast bowlers should be left out. Guess you never know with t20.

  • POSTED BY may_the_best_win on | September 23, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    We pakistanis welcome you all (with open arms) to the world of inconsistent performances ;p

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    England was saved by the 20 runs partnership at 10thy wicket,or they would be out for the lowest score in t20 history.Welcome to the world of spin England

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    England 's lose is not that unprecedented compared to its performance against spin. They batted like UAE or scotland pays against Indian Spin attack. The reason could be new and fresh players through the team, with Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, things woul dhave been much different, anyways congratulations India, I am sure you have put England out of the tournament since no other team will let England wiln after this horrifying loss but I hope England recovers and proves different.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    this show how week england against spin without pitersan. even they are not able to read harbhajan faster one.......................

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:06 GMT

    I was there and left early as singh got his first wicket.Swann bowled well and I knew that singh would be better so it was no surprise that englands scorecard was so awful. Who will india play inthe super eights?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:06 GMT

    Buhahahahahahahahahha :D World champs thrashed badly \m/

    Well done India! U beauty harbhajan i always see you as one of the best off spinner ever

  • POSTED BY Lets_talk_straight on | September 23, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Had it not been Dinda's last over, Its would have been the lowest total in T20 ever!!! A lot of questions before Eng, God help them playing spin.. Now i think India should play 5 bowlers with all 3 spinners Bhajji, Chawla and Ashwin alongwith Pathan and Zaheer, Mind it it will be an awesome bowling combination even though it is spin heavy, and will be tough to beat. And last thing for Indian batsmen, they should try to hit more sixes, I feel they are leaving too many to make in last overs. Gambhir should increase his strike rate and so is Kohli, though they are playing good!!

  • POSTED BY CricketFundas on | September 23, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    I'm sure our friends from SL and Pak will be licking their lips in anticipation of the next stage of the tournament. But then, the English have always been the worst players of spin on the planet, so it's reasonable to expect a better show from the other teams. Hope a team from the sub continent lifts the cup this time!

    England should be praying that tracks in India (in the upcoming test series) dont turn. Oh wait...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Nice Played India England all out 80 India won in 90 runs now I think everyone is agree with me that India is a very strong team. When Afghanistan Lost to England someone over here said that ICC should not allowed Afghanistan and like of it to this Tournament because they are destroying the game now England who Created this game lost in 90 runs what do you think Should ICC take out England from the game. any why nice played by India good game.

  • POSTED BY csr11 on | September 23, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Walloped! Yup that's the right word.... so are the English going to stick to their young guns or go back to Mr. KP... now that would be some capitulation... but in the end.. does it really matter..

  • POSTED BY Yolk_Eater on | September 23, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Afghanistan at least survived more overs.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    Should England still be saying "Kevin" Who?

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    well. well. India never really showed any aggression while batting and still managed 170 runs with common sense batting. and bowled them out with the frontline bowlers resting. without KP and Ian Bell, this English side is gonna get buried by spin.

    congrats India. great performance.

  • POSTED BY Yolk_Eater on | September 23, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    Afghanistan must be feeling so vindicated right now. 80 all out, both teams!!

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | September 23, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Well, anyone who tried to use these two teams' relative performances against Afghanistan as an indication of how they'd go against each other looks rather foolish now. I'm not sure that going in with one spinner was a good idea for England but maybe they wanted to give Bresnan a bit more exposure given that the result of this game didn't matter. Swann was the main bright spot in the bowling and I think India would probably be a bit disappointed with 170 after the start they got, especially as they lost relatively few wickets. This epic capitulation with the bat is extremely disappointing though. It's not even so much that they got out, but moreso how they got out. Yes, it's a relatively inexperienced team but it just looks like very little has been learned from the UAE debacle. Improvement is what I'm most concerned with seeing, even if it doesn't lead to results immediately but, to be frank, I couldn't bare to watch the game that this would an improvement on.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    This competition is developing to be a west Inies tornament! the pitches are becoming a spinner turf. West Indies have the top spinner Narine and Badree who is also decent plus back up from Gayle and Samuel. You have to be able to clear the boundary if you attact, There is Gayle, Pollard, Samuel, Bravo and Sammy....West Indies also have decent feilders currently.The game agaisnt Australia Was an example of what is to come!

  • POSTED BY NP_NY on | September 23, 2012, 16:53 GMT

    It's obvious. England still cannot play spin on wickets that take even a little bit of spin. In terms of all round quality in all formats they are no where close to Australia under Ponting or the current South African team. So much for the "defending champs" tag.

  • POSTED BY cooljack_143 on | September 23, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    IND SHOWING ALL THE SUBCONTINENT SIDES HOW TO BOWL TO BOUNCY PITCH BULLIES..GOOD SIGN FOR AJMAL,SAKHIB,AJANTHA & CO...

  • POSTED BY cooljack_143 on | September 23, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    GOOD BATTING SURFACE BUT ORDINARY/POOR BATTING BY ENG HERE..its indias day....Bhajjis humbleness is GOOD TO SEE HERE..HE IS GOOD THAT WAY..eng aim to hit the lowest score here..THIS IS THE NIGHT ENG WOULD LIKE TO FORGET IN THEIR LIVES..THEY SHOULD BE HAPPY THEY DONT CARRY POINTS FROM THIS GAME INTO SUPER 8'S..

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    Harsha said....it has been India's day.....It's indeed INDIA's day and that's how its going to be.....

  • POSTED BY trueanalyst on | September 23, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    Posted by fr600 on (September 23 2012, 13:33 PM GMT) Even without Pieterson, England will humiliate India. Yes, that's how it's gong to be.

    We never said we will humiliate England.We were quietly confident of our team.Why boast before even checking the result

  • POSTED BY Sycophant on | September 23, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    Looks like a pre planned master stroke to bump off Ashwin from the team for the remaining matches.....but pray that such a stupid decision isn't taken and better sense prevails when team is selected for the future matches

  • POSTED BY CricketFundas on | September 23, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    5 men around the bat in a T20? ROFL. Man, England really humiliated today. What a whopping....

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    lol ... test match fielding set up in a T20 against England ... poor English Team has no clue about spin

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 23, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    I WATCH THE PRE MATCH CONFERENCE WHERE NASSER HUSAAIN , KP & DRAVID WERE TALKING ABOUT indian batsmen 's unability to play short ball . hussain went on to said that some indian players like raina , gambhir , yuvraj(even though he is a good puller ) will find hard against england bowlers . in the match every indian batsmen played short ball pretty well even pathan played a beautiful pull shot for four in first over , it was clear that some indian batsmen have improved their technique against short balls . now we should talk about english batsmen 's unabiltity to play spin , total disgrace . i m excited for BARISTOW & MORGAN TO SEE HOW THEY WILL PLAY IN TESTS IN INDIAN TOUR . I THINK INDIA HAS GIVEN A CLUE TO ALL TEAMS HERE THAT ENGLAND CAN BE DEFEATED ONLY BY SPIN BOWLING .

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    Watching Eng vs Bhajji/Chawla was similar to Mendis vs Zim .. hahaha

  • POSTED BY cooljack_143 on | September 23, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    KP SHOULD BE LAUGHING HEREE!!!! FINN AT NO 10 NOW..BHAJJI ON 5 WKT HAUL...

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    England crumbling, Broad would have never thought, Dhoni will leave his best bowlers and start with Harbhajan and Piyush. This surprise factor is the one which always worked with Dhoni and which makes him the best captain in the world. Remember day before he just said, Zaheer is the Sachin of his bowling arm and he is rested, Broad might have dreamt of going for runs against the Sachin of Indian Bowling arm for sure, he might have even prepared the speech also. Here we are at the 11th over and England is down to 60 for 7. There goes another one, its 60 for 8. Cheers to Dhoni... the best captain India has ever seen till date.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | September 23, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    Irfan Pathan is exceptional today..The way he is bowling,what a line and Swing.Reminds me of old days of Pathan when he used to be so deadly

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | September 23, 2012, 16:41 GMT

    another example of this over-hyped team falling to pieces. Poor performance, poor skills. Saffa Dernbach getting hit fir 12 runs per over - ouch.

  • POSTED BY tashan329 on | September 23, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    Seems like the weakest bowling attack in this World T20 is enough to thrash England's most over rated batting ling line up. 6 down in 11 overs.

  • POSTED BY yogesh.gg on | September 23, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    OMG , what ENG batsmen are doing ? Is this the side they bank upon to challenge India in winters lol .. they are going to be humiliated .. MARK MY WORDS !!!

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | September 23, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    The refrain was that England might have failed against Ajmal and other high quality spinners, but against India spin would be not an issue. Well, going by what we have seen tonight.....wonder what those experts would say. Still, not bad for a popgun attack to get the World champions England down to 55-6. and counting...

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 23, 2012, 16:37 GMT

    @WAHEEB AHMED . MAN , HAWK EYE PREDICTED IT WAS OUT THE BALL WAS GOING TO CRUSH INTO MIDDLE & LEG STUMP .

  • POSTED BY Bruisers on | September 23, 2012, 16:37 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad - Bad decision!!? Did you see the hawk-eye? That is as plumb as it can get.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Where is kp should have played at no 5 . England batting needs strengthening then again god bowling harbajan et al

  • POSTED BY SurlyCynic on | September 23, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Well at least England have a 'happy dressing room', while their best batsman sits in the studio. Still, England can always be relied on to bring some comedy to the tournament, like losing to the Netherlands at Lords in 2009, making Broad captain, etc. And according to the English media Buttler will still be man of the tournament as he had a 'good over' against SA in an 11 over game. So there's still that to look forward to.

  • POSTED BY Bruisers on | September 23, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Haha, just as I predicted. These over-hyped English batsmen crumbled against an 'ordinary' bowling attack sans the BIG TWO - Zaheer and Ashwin. Only Kieswetter showed some resilience, as I had expected. JG2704, Wonder what you have to say about my 'lack of knowledge' this time..

  • POSTED BY venky_88 on | September 23, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Hey guys....Indian bowling is backk!!!! 54/6 at 10 overs...

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 23, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Sign of things to come for England this winter. This pitch is nothing compared to what MSD would prepare for England. They would be genuine turning dustbowls .

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Clueless is most definitely the word I would use here.

  • POSTED BY kunalx on | September 23, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    India 'B' team seems to be too good for England. What happened if Sehwag, Ashwin and Zaheer were picked. Now I have no issue with dhoni, you are really the best captain in the world in any format. hats off Team India. We want cup this year.

  • POSTED BY CricketFundas on | September 23, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    Welcome to the sub-continent England. If this is how you play spin, you might as well head back home now.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 23, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHH SO FRUSTRATING!!!! WHEN WILL THEY LEARN TO PLAY SPIN IN ASIA?????? 4-0 INDIA COMING UP.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:30 GMT

    Indians are bad players of swinging deliveries in English and Aussie conditions but English are worst players of spin ANYWHERE!

  • POSTED BY CricketFundas on | September 23, 2012, 16:30 GMT

    @Waheed Ahmad- Sorry buddy, that was an excellent decision by Toefl. Luke Wright was dead in the water!

  • POSTED BY arunmp3 on | September 23, 2012, 16:26 GMT

    welcome to Asia - england :p

  • POSTED BY trueanalyst on | September 23, 2012, 16:25 GMT

    As always India is the best.They play according to the opponent.People may have thought India will be walloped after England walloped Afghan .See my earlier post in England India match review.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:23 GMT

    Thank you ESPNCRICINFO.COM for the streaming on the WC T20 games.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    bad Luck luke wright... Poor decision by Toefl

  • POSTED BY Yolk_Eater on | September 23, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    I am not understanding what the local crowd is thinking. Some of them are wearing India's jerseys and some England's. That's totally fine. But why are locals who have put on England's jerseys cheering for India when Pathan took the first wicket? Have they just turned up like this?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 23, 2012, 15:56 GMT

    I said before hand that I worried about England's lack of spin options and that we would go a bit too short pitch happy and feel my concerns were proven true. I just wonder , could we not have had a 2nd spinning option - either in Briggs or Patel - and if spin really isn't working too well we still have Wright who can bowl some pace. Seems a bit of a gamble to me

  • POSTED BY vpk23 on | September 23, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    IN HINDSIGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WISE IF YUVI WAS UPPED THE ORDER. MAYBE HE COULD HAVE SCORED FEW MORE OF THOSE EXTRS 2's RUNS IN TH FORM OF 6'S.. IT REALLY MATTERED SOMEBODY WHO COULD CLEAR THE FENCES MUCH BETTER THAN KHOLI OR THE REST COULD..ANYWAYS LETS SEE IF OUR BOWLERS STICK TO THE TASK IN HAND

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    please england super fast bowlers, tell me what you did in this match, have u showed your chin music, how much you gave in your four overs, check our indian bowlers econmy after the match was over, and we played our substitute players, unlike your teaM

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    Afghan Fan : Well so for against England India made 170 Runs 20 over 4 out. Against Afghanistan India made 159 runs 20 over 5 out this means that India made 11 runs more than what made against Afghan with one wicket less.

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 23, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    England is so lucky . They got Nz , Sl ,WI in their super . These teams lost their respective matches against Pak, SA, Aus .

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | September 23, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    170 to chase,wont be tough for england considering our bowling attack

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 23, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Harbhajan for Ashwin. Sign of things to come in the test series? Perhaps, India's selectors think that Harbhajan's experience is a better bet against England's batsmen? However, Ashwin has done little wrong and deserves to hold his place. I think England would strugggle more against Ashwin than Harbhajan.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Just as Sanjay Manjrekar said, Virat Kohli is growing as a player every week.. he was OUT :-( Guys please dont praise people so much...

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 23, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Bresnan for Patel is not a good move. Rather 4 pacemen and 1 spinner is not a good idea. Bowlers like Bresnan are bread and butter for Yuvraj. Patel would have offered a variation. England are going to get walloped in this game.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    England gonna win today.......................

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Afghan Fan : Some people said that India is a weak team they didn't play well against Afghanistan England is stronger than India because they beat Afghanistan bye a big number New let's see who is stronger India or England.

    I think Afghanistan played well against India and I think India a very strong team which is able to beat England Let's see what happens. If India beat England that means Afghanistan is a strong team.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 23, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Forget it INDIA you do not have d power to beat England !

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  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 23, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Forget it INDIA you do not have d power to beat England !

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    Afghan Fan : Some people said that India is a weak team they didn't play well against Afghanistan England is stronger than India because they beat Afghanistan bye a big number New let's see who is stronger India or England.

    I think Afghanistan played well against India and I think India a very strong team which is able to beat England Let's see what happens. If India beat England that means Afghanistan is a strong team.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    England gonna win today.......................

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 23, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Bresnan for Patel is not a good move. Rather 4 pacemen and 1 spinner is not a good idea. Bowlers like Bresnan are bread and butter for Yuvraj. Patel would have offered a variation. England are going to get walloped in this game.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Just as Sanjay Manjrekar said, Virat Kohli is growing as a player every week.. he was OUT :-( Guys please dont praise people so much...

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 23, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Harbhajan for Ashwin. Sign of things to come in the test series? Perhaps, India's selectors think that Harbhajan's experience is a better bet against England's batsmen? However, Ashwin has done little wrong and deserves to hold his place. I think England would strugggle more against Ashwin than Harbhajan.

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | September 23, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    170 to chase,wont be tough for england considering our bowling attack

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 23, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    England is so lucky . They got Nz , Sl ,WI in their super . These teams lost their respective matches against Pak, SA, Aus .

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    Afghan Fan : Well so for against England India made 170 Runs 20 over 4 out. Against Afghanistan India made 159 runs 20 over 5 out this means that India made 11 runs more than what made against Afghan with one wicket less.

  • POSTED BY on | September 23, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    please england super fast bowlers, tell me what you did in this match, have u showed your chin music, how much you gave in your four overs, check our indian bowlers econmy after the match was over, and we played our substitute players, unlike your teaM