England v WI, World T20 2012, Super Eights, Pallekele September 27, 2012

West Indies survive Morgan blast

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West Indies 179 for 5 (Charles 84, Gayle 58) beat England 164 for 4 (Morgan 71*, Hales 68) by 15 runs
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A century opening stand between Chris Gayle and Johnson Charles powered West Indies to their first win of the 2012 World Twenty20 with a 16-run victory against England in their opening Super Eights match. Their top-order batsmen setting a daunting total of 179 for 5 and their quartet of slow bowlers suffocated the England batsmen as they started their reply.

A remarkable fourth-wicket stand of 107 in 58 balls between Alex Hales, who scored 68 from 51 balls, and Eoin Morgan, who made a brilliant, unbeaten 71 from 36 balls, gave England an outside chance of victory, but the pair were left too much to do by another lacklustre performance from their top-order colleagues.

This was England's second successive defeat following the 90-run thrashing India inflicted in their final group game and leaves their hopes of retaining the World T20 trophy hanging by a thread. England will probably need to win both their remaining Super Eights matches, against New Zealand and Sri Lanka respectively, to progress to the semi-finals.

England were always behind in their run chase. Set a demading 180 to win - they have never chased more than 173 to win a T20I - they knew they required a good start. But, while they were expecting a challenge from the spinners, it was the seam of Ravi Rampaul that provided the killer punch.

After three balls of England's reply, Rampaul was on a hat-trick after Craig Kieswetter, attempting to pull a delivery too full for the shot, top-edged to point and Luke Wright, attempting to withdraw his bat from a short delivery, guided the ball off the bat face to slip. A double-wicket maiden never represents a good start for a batting side; when they are chasing nine an over it is likely to prove fatal.

Hales took legspinner Samuel Badree, in the side instead of the pace of Fidel Edwards, for consecutive boundaries - skipping down the pitch to drill a drive through mid-off before cutting the next ball for four when the bowler compensated - and cut Sunil Narine for another. But, at the end of their six Powerplay overs, England had scored just 29 for 2. West Indies, by comparison, had been 47 without loss. It was a gap that England could never completely close.

Hales pulled Darren Sammy for one six and then drove and pulled Samuels for a four followed by a six. But though Jonny Bairstow helped Hales add 55 in 9.3 overs for the third-wicket, Bairstow's struggles against the spin bowling - he made just 18 in 29 balls - put England even further behind the rate and left Morgan a vast amount of ground to make up.

West Indies' selection policy was certainly vindicated. Not only did Charles, the 23-year-old from St Lucia who has little obvious pedigree as an opening batsman, fully justify his position, but the control offered by the quartet of spin bowlers - Badree, Gayle and Narine, in particular - ensured that England were always behind the run-rate and, despite Morgan slogging a Gayle full toss for six over square leg, driving Narine for another and then top-edging another off Rampaul, West Indies always had breathing space.

They produced some outstanding fielding, too. Andre Russell, catching the ball in the air over the midwicket boundary and throwing it back into play before he landed, limited Morgan to two when he must have thought he had a six and Sammy, having picked himself up having dived to parry a clip from Hales, raced after the ball and dived full length to turn a four into a three.

With three overs remaining, England required 46; with two remaining they required 39. Even though Morgan drove two sixes off Rampaul from the first four balls of the penultimate over, the last over, entrusted to Marlon Samuels, began with England still requiring 23 to win. Morgan drove the first delivery for four, but could manage only a single from the next two deliveries and, when Hales was stumped from the fourth ball, dragged wide as Hales advanced down the pitch, England's hopes were extinguished.

Earlier a career-best performance from Charles hastened West Indies towards their total. Charles, overcoming an uncertain start, scored 84 from 56 deliveries and shared in an opening stand of 103 in 11 overs with Gayle to allow West Indies to seize the initiative they never really relinquished.

While Steven Finn, bowling with sharp pace, produced a tight first over with Charles' first boundary coming when he top-edged an attempted pull over slip, Gayle was soon into his stride. Having patted back his first two deliverires from Jade Dernbach, he then crashed three fours from the rest of the over: two pulls and a fierce drive.

Gayle dealt with the pace of Finn comfortably, giving himself room to cut a short ball over point, and greeted the introduction of Stuart Broad, also bowling at a sharp pace and with good control, with a thick-edged over third man and then a flick over mid-wicket.

But it was Samit Patel's introduction for the eighth over that marked a sharp acceleration from West Indies. Patel's third delivery, something of a long-hop, was pulled over mid-on, the fifth was slog-swept over square leg and the final delivery, a quicker ball, was driven over mid-on as Gayle thrashed three sixes from the over.

Johnson followed suit in the following over from Graeme Swann. Having seized on to a poor ball down the leg side with a sweep for four, he followed it with two sixes over the long-on boundary to complete a period of five sixes in 10 balls for West Indies.

Gayle reached his 50 in just 29 deliveries and brought up the 100 stand from 63 balls with another six driven over extra cover. So when Finn, running in from long-off, put down a simple chance offered by Charles on 39 off Swann, it seemed there would be no respite for England. But it turned out to be a moment of fortune for England. The next delivery, Gayle mistimed a thump over long-on and, this time, Finn made no mistake with the catch.

Broad clawed back a little control with a wicket maiden in the 14th over when he had Samuels taken at point as he attempted to slash over the off side, but Charles, who reached his half-century from 36 balls, was back on strike for the next over and skipped down the wicket to drive Patel for another six then latched onto both Finn and Dernbach

Clearly showing the effects of weariness he then drove a full toss to mid-on to depart 16 short of a century. His work was done, though, and despite Morgan's heroics, West Indies were always just one step ahead.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 30, 2012, 23:10 GMT

    @Si Baker- mate that is a little oxymoronic- suggesting that you are well aware of the Kolpak decision and yet at the same time advocating something that would constitute a clear breach of the same law. If people from all over Europe (and beyond) are entitled under this decision to earn a living playing cricket in England, then those overseas cricketers that qualify for both UK citizenship and the county cricket qualification period are then entitled to play for England. It's as simple as that. No poaching involved at all, just the UK as part of the EU following the European Court of Justice decision, and then picking the players that then qualify to play for England purely on merit. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand? Maybe they just don't want to understand.

  • POSTED BY on | September 30, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    @Hammond: I should've made myself clearer: I meant a *voluntary* moratorium. I'm well aware of the Kolpak ruling, thanks. @JG: point taken re the Irish football team of the early 90s (most of whom had broad Cockney or Scouser accents), but the danger is that if we don't do all we can to help the Irish establish a solid cricketing culture at a point when interest in the sport is growing in Ireland, the window of opportunity might pass (as happened with Kenya post-2003 World Cup). If we want to see cricket grow & flourish on a global basis, the individual Test-playing boards along with the ICC need to do a lot more than they do at present to help countries such as Ireland, Scotland, Afghanistan & Holland develop their resources. An obvious way to do this would be to incorporate such teams into existing domestic structures: Afghanistan into the Pakistani set-up, for example; or even the USA and/or Canada into the Caribbean set-up.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 29, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    @Si Baker on (September 28 2012, 15:14 PM GMT) Mate , I don't have a problem with any of what you suggested. Some of the Irish players could maybe play for the Lions but retain their ODI/T20 Status with Ireland. My point was that the guy is saying that we're poaching all the Irish talent when at this stage the only Irish player who has played for England is Morgan. Joyce - who he also mentions - is playing for Ireland again anyway. Also , do you get my point about those 100% Irish footballers of the 90s such as their captain Andy Townsend.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 29, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    @Si Baker- the ECB cannot impose any "moratorium" on Irish players as Ireland is part of the EU and is therefore bound by the Kolpak decision. Read up on this decision and become informed on this issue.

  • POSTED BY on | September 29, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    Wow West Indies fielding superb.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 29, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    @always_SA, wasn't it Philander/Tahir who were compared to McGrath/Warne? Philander has had a dream start to his test career but a McGrath he is not. Not yet, at least. The less said about Tahir the better.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    @Eoin-Chief, ARJa & JG: the Irish question is a vexed one. I know that - for various reasons, ranging from self-interest to logistics & finance - it's most unlikely to happen, but what I'd *like* to see is a situation in which the ECB helps Ireland towards Test status by (a) implementing a five-year moratorium on selecting players of Irish nationality for England & (b) inviting Ireland to participate fully in England's domestic programme. This would ensure that youngsters such as Dockrell & Stirling aren't poached by England in the near future, while allowing the Irish to build a future Test squad already familiar with the rigours of genuinely competitive four-day cricket. A side containing Morgan, Joyce, Dockrell, Rankin, Murtagh, Stirling, Porterfield, Wilson & the O'Briens would stretch not just the best teams in county cricket but also New Zealand, Bangladesh & Zimbabwe. Realistically, I'd say it'd take no longer than 3-5 years to achieve Test status.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (September 28 2012, 07:00 AM GMT) I'm actually surprised WI had more dots than England , but to me England still had way too many dots. We don't have as many natural big hitter as WI so we need to make reducing dot balls a priority.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    @prannsshu on (September 28 2012, 08:23 AM GMT) Bopara has never performed with the bat under pressure situations for England. His bowling has probably kept him in the side for quite a while and that was at best erratic last time out. On form he would add a handy bowling option although he is at best a medium pacer but his SR in T20s says it all about his batting. Keiswetter is a slow starter but at least - if he stays in - he usually accelerates. We don't need someone batting at Bopara's pace in the top 4. Bairstow was woeful yesterday but I'd still back him over Bopara with the bat. Bell might have been another option. He seems to have improved his ODI game/SR but can he continue to do this and improve his SR further at T20 level? When Bell is in a positive mindset he can be an asset as he has all the shots etc but all too often he goes into his shell and becomes a liability

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT

    big up to the windies it was unlucky against Australia we should have won that this year we are coming

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 30, 2012, 23:10 GMT

    @Si Baker- mate that is a little oxymoronic- suggesting that you are well aware of the Kolpak decision and yet at the same time advocating something that would constitute a clear breach of the same law. If people from all over Europe (and beyond) are entitled under this decision to earn a living playing cricket in England, then those overseas cricketers that qualify for both UK citizenship and the county cricket qualification period are then entitled to play for England. It's as simple as that. No poaching involved at all, just the UK as part of the EU following the European Court of Justice decision, and then picking the players that then qualify to play for England purely on merit. Why is this so hard for everyone to understand? Maybe they just don't want to understand.

  • POSTED BY on | September 30, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    @Hammond: I should've made myself clearer: I meant a *voluntary* moratorium. I'm well aware of the Kolpak ruling, thanks. @JG: point taken re the Irish football team of the early 90s (most of whom had broad Cockney or Scouser accents), but the danger is that if we don't do all we can to help the Irish establish a solid cricketing culture at a point when interest in the sport is growing in Ireland, the window of opportunity might pass (as happened with Kenya post-2003 World Cup). If we want to see cricket grow & flourish on a global basis, the individual Test-playing boards along with the ICC need to do a lot more than they do at present to help countries such as Ireland, Scotland, Afghanistan & Holland develop their resources. An obvious way to do this would be to incorporate such teams into existing domestic structures: Afghanistan into the Pakistani set-up, for example; or even the USA and/or Canada into the Caribbean set-up.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 29, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    @Si Baker on (September 28 2012, 15:14 PM GMT) Mate , I don't have a problem with any of what you suggested. Some of the Irish players could maybe play for the Lions but retain their ODI/T20 Status with Ireland. My point was that the guy is saying that we're poaching all the Irish talent when at this stage the only Irish player who has played for England is Morgan. Joyce - who he also mentions - is playing for Ireland again anyway. Also , do you get my point about those 100% Irish footballers of the 90s such as their captain Andy Townsend.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 29, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    @Si Baker- the ECB cannot impose any "moratorium" on Irish players as Ireland is part of the EU and is therefore bound by the Kolpak decision. Read up on this decision and become informed on this issue.

  • POSTED BY on | September 29, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    Wow West Indies fielding superb.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 29, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    @always_SA, wasn't it Philander/Tahir who were compared to McGrath/Warne? Philander has had a dream start to his test career but a McGrath he is not. Not yet, at least. The less said about Tahir the better.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    @Eoin-Chief, ARJa & JG: the Irish question is a vexed one. I know that - for various reasons, ranging from self-interest to logistics & finance - it's most unlikely to happen, but what I'd *like* to see is a situation in which the ECB helps Ireland towards Test status by (a) implementing a five-year moratorium on selecting players of Irish nationality for England & (b) inviting Ireland to participate fully in England's domestic programme. This would ensure that youngsters such as Dockrell & Stirling aren't poached by England in the near future, while allowing the Irish to build a future Test squad already familiar with the rigours of genuinely competitive four-day cricket. A side containing Morgan, Joyce, Dockrell, Rankin, Murtagh, Stirling, Porterfield, Wilson & the O'Briens would stretch not just the best teams in county cricket but also New Zealand, Bangladesh & Zimbabwe. Realistically, I'd say it'd take no longer than 3-5 years to achieve Test status.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (September 28 2012, 07:00 AM GMT) I'm actually surprised WI had more dots than England , but to me England still had way too many dots. We don't have as many natural big hitter as WI so we need to make reducing dot balls a priority.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    @prannsshu on (September 28 2012, 08:23 AM GMT) Bopara has never performed with the bat under pressure situations for England. His bowling has probably kept him in the side for quite a while and that was at best erratic last time out. On form he would add a handy bowling option although he is at best a medium pacer but his SR in T20s says it all about his batting. Keiswetter is a slow starter but at least - if he stays in - he usually accelerates. We don't need someone batting at Bopara's pace in the top 4. Bairstow was woeful yesterday but I'd still back him over Bopara with the bat. Bell might have been another option. He seems to have improved his ODI game/SR but can he continue to do this and improve his SR further at T20 level? When Bell is in a positive mindset he can be an asset as he has all the shots etc but all too often he goes into his shell and becomes a liability

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT

    big up to the windies it was unlucky against Australia we should have won that this year we are coming

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    Can't believe that some people on here are questioning Johnson Charles' selection, yes he's not as talented as Dwayne Smith, but he took his opportunity and scored runs when it mattered. There's others who still criticises Sammy's place, well he might not be the best tactician, but he's got the team playing together as a collective unit for the first time in more than a decade. This win will give the boys alot of confidence going into the Super-8s and only need one more win to make the semis. There's still alot of room for improvement and i hope they can carry some momentum, discipline and consistancy for the next two matches.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    @Eoin-chief ctd And re "Im particular aggrieved with their attitude towards the recruitment of Irish cricketers" 1 - If an Irish player has ambitions of playing test cricket then he won't fulfil them until/unless they become a test playing nation , 2 - Not sure if any , inc Morgan are any good enough/any better than what we have already. Also I guess you are not a football fan? The 1994 world cup squad consisted of no fewer than 16 of the 22 players born outside of Ireland. You're ok with that I guess?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    @Eoin-chief on (September 28 2012, 09:31 AM GMT) How do you work out Eng's best player in the tournament is Morgan? He was superb yesterday but no better than any other batsman in the other 2 games. In fact before yesterday he had been at best scratchy even against minnows Afghanistan. Craig and Jade have been our 2 worst performers so far and re the Irish players , I believe only Morgan has played for Eng recently. Why mention Joyce - who is back playing for Ireland after failing for England and Rankin who may never play for England even if he's qualified to do so. re "They would be much better off developing their own young cricketers than filling their team up with foreigners" 3 out of 11 which may well become 2 is hardly FULL is it? And also England have tightened their qualifying period so they are already doing this.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    @158notout (06:29 AM GMT) Sorry mate. Agree with most of your posts but needing 9 an over from the start - 18 off 29 is just making the required runrate climb.I'm not saying that he should be looking for the boundary from ball 1 but he should be scoring at a run a ball from ball 1 just from singles and by 29 balls he should even in a riskfree/rebuild mode be on at least 35 esp when chasing such a large total.Yes we could have been all out for 100 but after 55 runs with 125 required at 12.5rpo Jonny left us in as bad a position (probably worse) as when he came in when although 2 wickets down the required rate was 9.23 and if he left scoring at a SR of just over a run a ball and leaving the required SR at around 10-10.5 I'd agree with you but at 55 we could have collapsed to less than 100 anyway.The thinking of putting Jonny in earlier (Morgan looking scratchy in preceding matches) was ok just that Jonny was way too slow and it was only Morgan's heroics which got them anywhere near.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    Feel sorry for morgan it was a great effort by him but great job by west indies especially in the field.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 28, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @Eoin-chief- sorry mate you are belting out an old tune. Read up on the Kolpak decision in the EU courts and how it affected English cricket and then realise how mis-informed your comments actually are.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 28, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    @VivtheGreatest- how is complimenting an opposition player on their batting "sour grapes" exactly. And this isn't his first match either. I have seen him make runs before and he looks like he has the goods. The windies seem to have (unlike Australia) some good young batsmen coming through.

  • POSTED BY seniorgators on | September 28, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    @bouncedout To quote you " How the mighty have fallen... But then a lack of talent and an inability to look forward, only back, will do that to a team." Can't see you anywhere bouncedout. Perhaps your name says it all.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | September 28, 2012, 10:07 GMT

    About the match, fair play to the West Indies, I would rather see them win than any other team (except for England of course). It'll do great for cricket on the islands and hopefully start to bring back WI as a force in cricket, how we have all missed you. I never like to make changes but I think we should look at Patel out for Briggs, he's got a good record and I've never seen patel do much of note with the bat for England. Maybe Keisy out too, he looks in horrible form at the moment, no footwork and just swipes at the ball.

  • POSTED BY Eoin-chief on | September 28, 2012, 9:31 GMT

    To be honest i dont think England are even close to good enough to win the tournament. But more importantly they dont deserve deserve to win it. Their attitude of selecting players from other countries especially from Ireland and South Africa is disgraceful. Their best player in the torment is Irish (Eoin Morgan), Dernbach and Kieswetter are both South African. Then when they play badly every body is up in arms that Kevin Pietersen (another South African) wasnt in the squad. They would be much better off developing their own young cricketers than filling their team up with foreigners. Im particular aggrieved with their attitude towards the recruitment of Irish cricketers. Ireland cant afford to loose players like Morgan, Joyce and Rankin to England. Imagine if Morgan played for Ireland in this tournament, we would have given West Indies and Australia a real run for their money and would probably have made the tournement alot more interesting.

  • POSTED BY pitch_curator on | September 28, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Surprised that England came to within 20 runs of the target. Needless to say, pathetic performance from them (except Morgan). This pitch was not spinning nor was it slow. They would do well to put up a fight against Srilanka. Would have been better if Afghans qualified.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    a slap on ECB not to select probably the world's best batsman

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    @ Meety on (September 28 2012, 00:17 AM GMT) Battingwise , the damage was done with JB scoring like we were chasing double figures. Bowlingwise it was worse IMO. Re the KP debate , it seems us English fans can't win. When he was doing the business for England there are a seemingly endless amount of posts re Eng importing SA players and when he is not there we get an endless amount of posts saying where is he? Ironically it is our 2 SA born players who have been the weakest links in this tournament so far.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    @Chesty-la-roux on (September 27 2012, 22:36 PM GMT) No point in going through with the KP debate now. Remember , it was KP who retired from this format to begin with and Eng had to plan without him. Yes we miss KP greatly but in WI 2010 when we won the WC were we ever chasing such big scores? And re holding the highest number of catches , surely that's as much to do with where you are placed. The thing is no one knows what has been said/done behind closed doors. If you know then maybe you can enlighten me , otherwise what you are saying is KP can say/do what he wants regardless and get away with it regardless of his ability. Re Lumb , if you read my posts fully rather than just nitpick and make it a "where is KP?" topic which is a non starter you will see that I am saying he should be included. Personally - As I've always said , I wish KP was in our side but he isn't and to blame his absence on our poor performances is making excuses.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple on (September 27 2012, 21:04 PM GMT) It wasn't down to Craig at all. I'd say on this occasion it was more down to our bowlers and if any batsman Bairstow. At least Craig and Luke did not waste balls in getting out. Bairstow made an already mountainous task near impossible. I still think they should go with Lumb and Hales - as a left/right combo - at the top. In pretty much all our recent matches - inc when we posted a decent score vs Afghan - we've got off to bad starts and you have to admit Hales has done better than Craig by and large. I'd love him to carry over his Somerset form to England but he's not doing it at the moment

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    @always_SA on (September 27 2012, 20:17 PM GMT) As I have said before our biggest strength before in this format is reducing other teams totals. Yes we need to make improvements vs spin - use our feet more etc . I know we can struggle against spin in all formats but we don't help ourselves in our selections as I have said for a long time , as anyone who hasn't just started on here knows

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    @dickiebrewsters on (September 27 2012, 20:05 PM GMT) Let's not strawclutch. As an England fan I'd say the damage was done long before and that was an amazing piece of fielding. With the start to our inns and more so the last 5/6 overs of their inns was where it all went wrong. We did well to get so close

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 28, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    @Shan156 on (September 27 2012, 20:02 PM GMT) Mate , I think Broad had his head somewhere else when he thought WI were 20 short of par. Batsmen need to use their feet more against spin because firstly it helps negate the spin and secondly it makes the bowler unsure of what lengths to bowl. If the bowler knows that batsman is staying in his crease then he doesn't have to think so much. I think this is one area where we miss one player in particular.

  • POSTED BY sam_screaming on | September 28, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    The way bairstow played spin yesterday was hilarious. the ball was not even turning from badree's hand but such is the fear of spin in bairstow's mind that even straight balls look like shane warne classics. England should play bairstow only in england where rain make the ball wet and he gets the confidence that the ball wont spin and he can hit his biggies. On the other hand Alex Hales played very nicely against the spinners. West indies need to buck up a little more. They need to score 30 runs more to feel safe in a match. Had Morgan got a chance early in the innings, this game was all for England's to win.

  • POSTED BY prannsshu on | September 28, 2012, 8:23 GMT

    Well well well, this ENGLISH side needs changes, simply bring lumb as openor, bopara at 3/4, and Briggs replacing jade dernbach... Bopara can be third seamer, Broad, finn, bopara, patel, briggs, swann, luke wright (if needed) this should be bowling attack with briggs open with finn.. Bopara's medium pace and swing can be dangerous in this condition..., he is a good death bowler. My team lumb, hales, bopara, morgan, wright, buttler (w.k.), patel, swann, broad, finn, briggs.

  • POSTED BY Pappu_bhai on | September 28, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    Ha ha Ha.Even a local team like WI has defeated England who were once suppose to rule the world like Aussise and WI.Is it the same England?I dont find change in faces.England management has to seriously rethink when back in England and come with new Hope next time.Best of luck for the next world cup.........

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    Let the fan ask now...... KP WHO???? Guess they got their ans last nite....

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    Good Performance By Carribean Kings :)

  • POSTED BY ste13 on | September 28, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    If you added Ian Bell, Kevin Pietersen and removed Dernbasch (will never be international class), England would be a very difficult team to beat. By the way - is Luke Wright really international class, who benefitted a lot from playing in different leagues across the world?

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | September 28, 2012, 7:00 GMT

    As it says in the innings analysis, the difference betwen the teams is clear. WI played 9 more dot balls than England but compensated by hitting 9 more boundaries than them. It more or less counts as the difference between the sides in the end.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    Chris Gayle has another big day out! He truly is epic in this format and really his best is better than anyone elses, so when he gets going like he did yesterday it is going to be tough work for the opposition to make up that ground, bowled well too and was a good laugh when he could have mankaded Morgan. He seems to have a very canny understanding of the batsmen he bowls at and never gives too much to hit. Morgan, terrific as always, can't understand why he doesn't bat at 3 though. I can't think of any other team where the best batsman is batting outside the top 4 at least? I think Sammy judged the wicket well when the West Indies bowled, his normally effective slow medium stuff just seemed to sit up to be hit and it was canny captaincy to keep himself and the other medium pacers out of the attack.

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | September 28, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Not that I have any reason other than being an England fan for defending the tactics and as I commented earlier I was quite impressed with Englands performance, despite losing. I was realistic enough before the tournament not to expect us to win it again and was happy not to see us be blown away. Anyway, to the point - England lost 2 wickets for 0 runs in the first over, one of which (Kieswetter) was really poor. Wright got a good ball first up. So, Bairstow comes in at 4 rather than Morgan. This was a good selection. I am sure had we been 2 down after 5 overs say then Morgan would have come in. This is the sort of fluidity with the batting that England are often accused of not having. Then for JB to score 18 off of 29 someone had to steady the ship, even in T20. If he hadn't we could easily have been shot down for <100 as in the India game. That can happen to really good sides as well when wickets start falling.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    WI appear to be formidable with so many hitters !

  • POSTED BY SwapnS on | September 28, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    Purely on statistical level: italics below the head describe the difference as 15, while the first sentence as 16. To top it, the difference between 179 and 162 (as per the score given in italics) is 17!

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    I really don't understand why the WI team is not giving the ball to Bravo and Pollard. They have been bowling well in the IPL and are good in these sub-continental conditions. They should have balled the last over. Samules was luck that he was bowling against Eng. Any other team (Ind, Pak, SL) would have hit him out of the park.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 5:36 GMT

    why does broad sound like hes talking as if eng batted first? his comments seemed to make him look as if he couldnt think of anything to say. it would have been easier on him if he had just said wi bowled well to restrict eng since it was a good batting surface

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    Quite an exciting match. England left it a bit too late - great effort by Morgan and Hales. But kudos to the Windies who are looking very dangerous from a batting perspective. And they also had some unbelievable fielding moments - wow.

  • POSTED BY 777aditya on | September 28, 2012, 5:14 GMT

    A win is a win, although, not as convincing as it ought to be. England had a run rate of 6 or so around 12 overs - Morgan and Hales almost staged a remarkable and seemingly impossible comeback. Well played England, though, the better team won. West Indies will rue that in spite of being at 95 for no loss at the end of 10 overs, they could not go on to score 200. Also, their bowling is a bit of a worry. Badree was very economical and the spinners were in general pretty good. Spinners bowled 15 overs and Russell did not bowl a single over. I think Rampaul should make way for Edwards or if possible Jerome Taylor (I know he is not in the squad).

  • POSTED BY VivtheGreatest on | September 28, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    @Hammond, Sour grapes as usual from u. So without 'watching' u actually saw Johnson's strokes?!! It seems that anyone can just come in and bowl some slow stuff and the English will flounder. Their lack of footwork against spin is embarassing to say the least. I also dont understand their logic of picking these so called 20-20 specialists in their team. Cook, Trott and Bell would have been a better bet on these pitches. But I do agree with ur comment on Johnson, some of his shots were a throwback to the Calypso cricketers of old and what about the sheer athleticism of Pollard and Russell. Brilliant!!

  • POSTED BY getsetgopk on | September 28, 2012, 4:47 GMT

    Always believed Rampaul is a dangerous bowler, infact most of WI bowlers including Edwards, Roach are pretty nippy and sharp, one thing i noticed with the English batters is that they never move their back leg, its planted like a tree, they do clear their front leg when they go for the heave or slog but I think they should move their feet more, that way they will get a good reach on the ball and more in position for big shots, never mind they still did better than I expected with the situation they were in after first over. Well played WI!

  • POSTED BY MelbourneMiracle on | September 28, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    Gayle is not a good batsman. He can't flick the ball for a single. It always goes for a six. LoL...:D

  • POSTED BY Susant_RD146 on | September 28, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    One of the best innings by Morgan. he will never forget this one.. Good try despite earlier damage, England recover very well once it seems that they make it through. Bairstow's made it the task more difficult for England. Thank Hales and Morgan you Give us a tremendous entertainment.....

  • POSTED BY himohan007 on | September 28, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    WI is hot favorites for WC not only becoz of Batting + bowling combo but also with Fielding Dynamo. Pollard is Bolt in Cricket. Russell effort was fantastic. I think WI player's physic itself induce fear at opposition. Good AllRound Performance.....

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | September 28, 2012, 4:12 GMT

    surprised england got as close as they did. windies took the foot off though and were pretty poor with bowling and fielding. morgan scored the worst 50 ive ever seen i dont think any of his shots werent edges. #noideahowtoplaythegame

  • POSTED BY binojpeter on | September 28, 2012, 3:50 GMT

    In T20, maintaining a steady run rate of around 8 is the key to chase big scores. That's where England went wrong. I understand two initial blows by Rampaul forced them into defensive But no team can let required run rate to sour around 14 and 15 and then hope to chase that down in last 5 overs. You can't get that much balls to hit unless the opposition has a very poor bowling unit.

  • POSTED BY ARJa on | September 28, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    So happy England lost because their only chance of winning was Eoin Morgan who is an Irish International. Still can't believe Morgan is playing for England. He played for Ireland in 2007 and by 2009 he was representing England. How was it that the 4 year qualification did not apply is beyond me. West Indies however bowled poorly and once again raises the question what would happen if Gayle was to got out early. And they can't seriously play Russell is he is not going to bowl. I believe he is a better batter than a bowler, but he is a bowling allrounder non the less. They were a batsman short and Darren Bravo or Simmons should have played. Not quite sure they would be that great against Sri Lanka given the threat of Malinga and Mendis. Gayle bowling again was a big difference because Samuels seems to have lost control in bowling, and Narine doesn't look that effective all of a sudden.At least it didn't rain. It started to rain early in the morning in Colombo though.

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | September 28, 2012, 3:24 GMT

    As i always mentioned, KP and Morgan are the ONLY enforcers in English team and if not for them, they would usually struggle to post anything above 150. Morgan's innings was just lovely. Good to see Hales playing through a long innings when team was under pressure. Is it only me who really feel Bresnan can do better job than Dernbach? Why not let Finn and Broad bowl the end overs and Bresnan take care of the middle overs? It was a perfect game for WI though. Charles though had some silly shots attempted, was a treat to watch. What a timing this guy has. I wouldn't put him as "Next big thing" but still is a guy to watch out. The hiccup in middle overs by Samuels and Pollard would have cost the game them. WI hsould look to use Russel as top order batsman. He is a too good batter to be coming in with 4 balls to play. Give him more overs and use his talent.

  • POSTED BY ReverseSweepIndia on | September 28, 2012, 3:12 GMT

    Some bad news for 7 competing teams. I have hardly seen Chris doing the jiigs he was doing today. That mean he is "enjoying" his game. Chris Gayle was always dangerous. But an "indifferent" Chris was used to fail more than he succeed. But an enjoying Chris is real-real bad news for opposition. I am sure in matches to come he is going to tear apart few teams.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | September 28, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    Didn't see the match nor could I care any less, however Johnson Charles is a future star and I love watching him bat, all those old-fasioned back foot shots that one rarely sees these days.

  • POSTED BY Randy_Wilson on | September 28, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    @ BC Broomes . How can you leave out your Highest wicket taker of the last T20 world Cup out? Sammy toke 6 wickets in 2010 @ an avg of 12.00. Plus an Over ALL View on his T20 Bowling Avg 10.52 played 32 T20 and token 32 Wickets. best 5/26. DJ Bravo Bowling Avg 25.70 token 24 wickets in 29 Matches. K Roach Bowling Avg 27.55 toke 9 wkts in 10 Macthes . R Rampal avg 25.68 taken 19 wkts played 15 matches. Sammy last 3 matches. Eng 1 Over 13/0. Ireland 3 Over 1/23 and Aussie 2 overs 0/ 15 ( Best Econ of WI)

  • POSTED BY henchart on | September 28, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    It is curtains for Poms unless the other teams play poorly.Serves the Poms right too ,for repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    Well done WI...... England is well known for beating us in wintry conditions which the WI cricket board accepted and tried to get rid of Chris, in any other conditions they would of been equal and bit more competitive with the West Indies the better team We could win this T20

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    i do not like the schedule made by icc for super 8 in 2012 t20 world cup

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    Yet another brainless performance by England. Sending our weakest player of spin in at No. 4 against a side packed with spinners was a decision matched in its mind-boggling thoughtlessness only by offering up Patel's innocuous floaters as a sacrifice to Gayle at his most ferocious, demoting by far our best T20 batsman to No. 5 & yet again allowing the one-man disaster zone known as Jade Dernbach to bowl at the death. England lost this match as much through atrocious selection as they did on the pitch. Briggs outbowled Patel comprehensively in the warm-up games, yet Patel was selected purely on the off-chance that he might be needed for a late slog; K'Wetter is apparently a shoe-in despite averaging 10 since his arrival in SL; & Dernbach is a misfiring luxury not even rated highly enough by Surrey to be included regularly in their first XI. It's probably too late to matter now, but bringing in Briggs, Lumb & Bresnan has become imperative if we're to have any hope at all of progressing.

  • POSTED BY ifrakurshid on | September 28, 2012, 1:15 GMT

    AS I SAID EAIRLIER ENGLAND TEAM IS DESIGN TO LOOSE IN THIS TOURNAMENT DUE TO KP AND MANAGEMENT DISPUTE. MOST OF THE KP FANS BACK HOME MUST HAVE MISSED HIM THOUGH HIS GAP APPEARS TO BE FULLFILLED NOT HUNDRED % WEST INDIES MANAGED TO WIN COMFORTABLY REGULAR FALLOWERS POCKTED CASH EAISLY AS PUNTERS. A BAD MATCH FOR THE BOOKIES IN GENERAL.CONGRATS TO TEAM WESTINDIES DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PLAY FINAL MATCH OF THIS TOURNAMENT IF LADY LUCK SUPPORTED THEM AND GAYLE FIRING CONTINUES AT THE TOP OF BATTING LINE UP.

  • POSTED BY Sinhaya on | September 28, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    It was a great game indeed. I enjoyed watching Johnson Charles indeed. Windies have great power hitters but their bowling and fielding is the shortfall.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    For West Indies, and in this match a win is a win regardless but I was not convinced that this performance is a 'Cup' winning performance. At the end West Indies was left with either Sammy or Samuels to bowl the last over. It was high risk. Rampaul came back for his second spell and he was dispelled all over the ground for boundaries. Rampaul was on fire the first two overs. It is 'Dot' balls that counts in this competition, so he should have bowled at least one more over since he was on a roll. England came too close to the runs.

    For West Indies to win convincingly, they have to score at least 220 runs against every of their remaining opponents and Russell has to bat before Sammy.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:53 GMT

    Congrats WI ........good win.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:52 GMT

    @ Daniel Millwood on (September 27 2012, 22:52 PM GMT). You asked: ***What sort of nonsensical title is this?!!? WI survive Morgan blast?!?! ENGLAND LOST!! The plaudits go to WI!*** It showed an in built prior notion in the writer's mind, that W I team is inferior to that of the opposing team. It's obvious! And it's a shame. By the way,the writer's title is often changed by an unknown sub-editor, and he needs to be told to show a balanced judgement. Any number of different titles could have been used. If I am WI sub-editor, i would have even said "Morgan's gun blasts were silenced by the gutsy West Indies"; gun for an added effect to boot! That's how sensational titling goes.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | September 28, 2012, 0:44 GMT

    Two more close games - although England were behind most of the game in this one. I see nothing to change my mind that this T20 WC is anyone's on the day. The WI do not appear to be the overpowering force some imagined, as the bowling is nowhere near as good as the batting, and they rely quite a bit on Gayle. As I predicted, England's inexperience is a significant problem. Still, they are still in with a shot, and might make the semis yet.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | September 28, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    Wow - huge surprise - Dernbach goes for 10 and over AGAIN. How come he is still in the side - he is so expensive, sure he picks up the odd wicket, but never ever bowls a tight spell. Jonny Baistow put the side behind the run rate, he should have struck out for the boundary or let someone else do it. Just staying there doesn't really help the cause, the signal should have come from Broad - bad captaincy on his behalf. It's still hard to believe he's the captain really.

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    England bowled very well today even though the stregnth of West Indies batting made them look like fool along with all of SirSobers comments. I MUST ADMIT THAT I DONT LIKE THE TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE WHICH IS SUPPOSE TO BE NEUTRAL. base on the result the Title should have been, " England struggled as they were battered and bruise by the wood of Gayle and Charles". how come West Indies survived when they are one of the favourite winning away from Lords, sorry, home. It is always good to be a fan but editors and authors please take note!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:22 GMT

    Usually a captain of a side is automatically chosen. He could be an excellent bat or a bowler or a Jonty Rhodes. Sorry Samy has no place in any side who are playing now in this Tourney.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | September 28, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS on (September 27 2012, 15:00 PM GMT) - LOL! You made the same regrettable type of comment at the start of the Eng v India match. PLEASE write Watto & Warner off before every match! @JG2704 on (September 27 2012, 18:51 PM GMT) - whilst England lost - it was a reasonable comeback from 2/0 after 3 balls, & that horrid Bairstow innings. I think only a six sixes over could of won that match for England with 4 overs to go, so it was reasonably comfortable for WI. Despite question marks over England batsmen v spin, your boys handle Narine fairly effectively??

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    Saw all the four teams in this half, last night. Despite the fact that the "tie" made the SL -NZ match exciting, I feel sad for the four teams lumped together in the other half -- more specifically two of those four have to get out, at the end of the super eight stage, and two of these four on display last night will be in. That is how it panned out; can't help it!

  • POSTED BY on | September 28, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    In the last match of WI, someone asked, Johnson Who? He answered this time. Johnson Charles! That's who! More guns, to Morgan; great! (but it should be firing for the Irish Army; not the Balmy Army). Hail, Hales! Otherwise, not too great a match for a Super 8.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 23:59 GMT

    Seems like english team is nothing without KP(especially in t20).. wouldnt sruprise if they wont win a single match in super8

  • POSTED BY Badgerofdoom on | September 27, 2012, 23:55 GMT

    For England some changes are needed, Clearly Morgan coming in at 4 and Bopara in for Bairstow. Bairstow was just not capable of scoring off the spinners and left far to much for the others to do in the last 10 overs. Also as an England fan I have lost sight of how many times I have heard "Dernbach, slower ball, Four".

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | September 27, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    @landsite - I don't agree with your points about the Windies not capitalising on good starts (191 and 179 are not bad scores) in the games they made so far, but I do agree with you about Samuels. He's probably my favourite player in world cricket today and has probably got the best technique in the current Windies side but I think he's less suited to T20 cricket than he is to ODI and Tests. I think Sammy needs to rotate him up and down the order when needs must as, like you've stated, he needs to play himself in for a couple of overs. Against Australia it was perfect when he came in after five overs but he's not the sort of player who is going to tee off when he comes in after thirteen of fourteen overs.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 23:46 GMT

    Come back kp all is forgiven.......

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    What sort of nonsensical title is this?!!? WI survive Morgan blast?!?! ENGLAND LOST!! The plaudits go to WI!

  • POSTED BY Chesty-la-roux on | September 27, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    Quote jg2704 "Our success in the last WC was often built on reducing opposition's totals. PS also think our batsmen need to learn to use their feet more" And there was me thinking it had something to do with picking the best players and having an astute team man for captain. Or perhaps it had something to do with kevin pietersen scoring the highest number of runs for an english player and second highest in the tournament, kevin pietersen making the highest individual score for an english batsman, kevin pietersen having the highest batting average for an english batsman and third highest in the tournament, kevin pietersen having the second highest strike rate for an english player, behind only michael lumb, where is he this time by the way, not in the correct gang perhaps?, and kevin pietersen holding the second highest number of catches for any english player despite playing one match fewer than the rest. But why care about results so long as we have a jolly time in the dressing room.

  • POSTED BY UK_Chap on | September 27, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Nothing of the performance I have seen of the W Indies leads be to believe they will win. England`s bowling was not great and the W Indies was not much better, when they play against the asian teams their bowling will be left wanting. I suspect the other teams will bowl a lot better at W Indies than what they have faced so far in this tournament. They are also very fortunate not to be in the other group.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Windies had an excellent batting performance, their fielding was not at its best but it was way above average. My concerns lie with their bowling, I am of the opinion that the inclusion of Sammy in the team causes a severe imbalance, he is not a good enough batsman or bowler to warrant inclusion; every time Sammy takes the ball pressure is released the coach and management must find an illness for the captain which would allow us to pick our strongest eleven!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 22:03 GMT

    Westindies should start to use Bravo and Pollard forr mid overs and rotate to avoid heavy hitters. Comeon Sammy learn from dhoni and South Africans .what I am saying is India or South Africa will win the cup.

  • POSTED BY landsite on | September 27, 2012, 21:33 GMT

    Windies must do something about their batting order,it is now twice that they have wasted a good start where they were poised to get 200 but their middle order did not get it done.It might be an idea to send promote batsmen according to the situation,Samuels always takes a few overs to get going and our momentum was slowed up badly when he came in.I feel in those situations Pollard,Russell or even Sammy should come in with intentions of keeping that momentum that Gayle gives us.The pitch was no great help to our spinners but they did a great job and the best is yet to come.

  • POSTED BY Munkeymomo on | September 27, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    West Indies are a force in this format, great to watch. Morgan was superb. Kies may be getting worried about his place. Buttler is the best keeper in the side anyway so he can take the gloves. Still, it was an entertaining match to watch. Well done Windies.

  • POSTED BY Juiceoftheapple on | September 27, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    I'm not sure why this loss was down to Craig Kieswetter. Wright spanked Afghanistan but then what? The fact is, if we give every other team 170+ we aint winning anything. Ask the coach of every county side who he'd bowl in the 1st over in a T20 from Patel or Briggs and they'd all say Briggs. Went for what 6-7 an over opening. Added to this Jade just doesnt seem to have the control. Need to bowl better. Well played Morgan.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | September 27, 2012, 21:01 GMT

    I didn't see the game, but just looking at the scorecard, one statistic stands out like a sore thumb: Bairstow 18 from 29 balls. A strike rate of 62 while taking up almost 25% of the entire side's allotment of balls in a chase for 180 is going to lose the game 95% of the time. I don't blame Bairstow, who I am sure was doing the best he could. The fact is that at age 22 things like that are going to happen. England took a huge risk by bringing such a young and inexperienced side and it's not surprising it has come back to bite them. Well played, WI and I hope they go on to beat the other two sides in the group as well- that's England's best chance.

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | September 27, 2012, 20:44 GMT

    johnson charles has just sealed an IPL contract next year.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 20:44 GMT

    @SIRSOBERS.. you have this nack of getting your first comment which ends up totally ridiculous!! lol.. Rember your comment against Eng Vs Ind match ??!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    George, yes West Indies did survive - just barely though just barely.... this superb English performance right after mauling India

    England is looking so dangerous that ICC might just give them the cup without they having to win any super 8 game!!

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 27, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    @naniIndCri Unfortunately JB has never been able to play spin. 1. he's english and 2. even worse, he's from Yorkshire! Our lads make batsmen from other areas of the country look like Mahela when facing spin!

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 20:39 GMT

    Congratulation England - who would have believed that they could win this game !!! this is awesome, er.... wait they actually lost !!!

    Sorry was listening to Nasser and Bumble on ESPN - it "sounded" as if England had won, realize now it just two old men fulfilling their dreams in the la la land. So that is second in the row and no off course England has no problems against spin - it's a pace who is the culprit!!

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 27, 2012, 20:38 GMT

    @Mahjut and kc69 Maybe the score would have been higher if Briggs had played instead of patel. We don't know. However, even when I've seen Patel playing county cricket for Notts he hasn't impressed me. Briggs has always been right on the money when I've seen him bowl

  • POSTED BY cover_drive12345 on | September 27, 2012, 20:26 GMT

    @nutcutlet Swann was not allocated his full quota of overs only because he was proving ineffective against the batsmen. I do think England clawed back well in the last five overs or so, and was impressed by Broad's bowling. However Dernbach's final over did cost England the match as well as some terrible batting by Kieswetter. Positives include that brilliant innings of Morgan! But well played to West Indies,.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    Gayle should have been Man of the Match, his innings gave the WI the momentum in the first 11 overs which led to the victory. RR when he was in 9.4 dropped to 8.6 after he got out. He then took an excellent catch to sink Eng to 0/2 and bowled economically and took a wicket. The only reason they did not give him the award must be because of his horrible gangnam style.

  • POSTED BY always_SA on | September 27, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    @JG2704... mate you can chop and change the English team as much as possible, they are not going to make it LOL. Bairstow and Butler scored so easily in England conditions but struggle out here. Pathetic strike rate 18 of 29 balls. And you know what, they struggled against spin. England are a decent team in seaming/swinging conditions at home and places like Australia. They are clearly not #1 as we showed by taking away the rank from them in tests. Matter of time before they lose it in limited overs formats too :). They need a month of crash course training in spin in order to draw one of the tests in India. They should just stay at home and keep boasting about their ranking. What is funny is that I saw an article comparing Anderson/Swann with McGrath/Warne. Chalk and cheese mate :)

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | September 27, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    The headline is a bit misleading really. Is Broad writing your reports? I never for one moment thought that Windies survived a 'Morgan Blast'. It was a good knock but let's be honest - the Windies were always in control of this game. Their top two got the innings going and the Windies never seemed in danger of losing after this. All the talk before the game was how England bowled to Gayle and how they would handle spin. Well Gayle played a typical knock but the focus on the big man took the pressure of young Johnson Charles who played the innings of his career so far. Rampaul's two first over wickets and Badree's economical four overs meant that England were always playing catch-up regardless of how they handled Narine. Hales was a bright spot for me - he got a half century without much fuss and effort. The fact that they got within 15 runs of the Windies score flattered England though.

  • POSTED BY dickiebrewsters on | September 27, 2012, 20:05 GMT

    Surely according to law 19.4 the Andre Russell stop was a six. He touched the boundary triangle with his foot prior to jumping. This law was amended in 2010 to stop players leaving field of play before stopping ball. An extra 4 runs would have resulted & you never know...

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | September 27, 2012, 20:03 GMT

    Samit patel vs Gayle?..are you serious?.. Poor captaincy from broad...

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | September 27, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    @JG2704, "PS also think our batsmen need to learn to use their feet more", that has been our bane for a long time now, hasn't it JG? We may well lose the WC and our #1 ranking (if it is not gone already) by mid of next week but we need to learn our lessons. Kieswetter, despite his 35 against India, has been poor for a while now. Bairstow is inadequate against spin. This leaves Hales and Morgan to do the bulk of the work. Still, I think this is our best squad considering that KP may not return to England colors anytime soon. Let's hope the youngsters learn the art of playing spin.

  • POSTED BY denessa on | September 27, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    CONGRATS WINDIES.....U KEEPING THE TOURNAMENT ALIVE ........BIG UP TO CG AND CHARLES......THOSE WERE GOOD KNOCKS BOYS.....ALL THE BEST FOR THE NXT GAME .........BRING THE TROPHY TO THE CARIBBEAN ........WINDIES ALL THE WAY.....

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 27, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    And It think England should enjoy themselves bit more . They are really tensed and worried and even on the field they did not look a happy bunch . They should have continued to go after the ball even after losing the 2 wickets 1st up ..

  • POSTED BY sundar77 on | September 27, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    next match NZ vs ENG do or die for both... loser is out

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | September 27, 2012, 19:46 GMT

    West Indies fast bowling department is the weakest in the tournament . Their batting is awesome . So many t20 specialists . England is too inexperienced .They did well enough with the ball though once again batting let them down .

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 27, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    As for the two truly horrific shots in the first over, against seam would you believe, well the less said about them the better.

  • POSTED BY anupkeni on | September 27, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    West Indies 179 for 5 (Charles 84, Gayle 58) beat England 164 for 4 (Morgan 71*, Hales 68) by 15 runs.

  • POSTED BY rockinrogers on | September 27, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    Good all round game today by the WI. Great fielding, good batting and above average bowling with some help from England. I know spin was the order of the day but i thought Russel and the captain himself was under utilized or not utilized in the case of Russell who should have bowled the over after Gayle's last over therefore giving Narine and Ramdin the last 4 overs the bowl, albeit, Samuels did well with the last, but it should not have been him bowling. England need to sort themselves out with the spin bowling or at least change their batting order around and have the better batters of spin earlier in the order. All in all, a great day of cricket.....Go Windies.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 27, 2012, 19:21 GMT

    Briggs left out in place of the highly ineffective Patel, and Morgan, England's best t20 batsman doesn't come in until no.5 when the game is gone. Well done England, you deserve all you get.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 19:20 GMT

    where is KP ...................................................................................?

  • POSTED BY NaniIndCri on | September 27, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    I thought Bairstow had the technique to play spin, but after the last 2 matches Eng must be worried for this and the coming tournaments in Sub continent.

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | September 27, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    I'll leave it to others to have their say about Keiswetter (an embarrassment & a handicap as an opener) & Morgan batting at 5 when he should be no lower than 4, etc. There were some positives for England to pull out of the bonfire: Broad's bowling (Finn wasn't bad either) & the batting of Hales & Morgan. That's about it. Above all this, there was one crucial area where England lost the plot completely: team selection. The WIndies were very astutely led & deployed four spinners. By now everyone knows that spinners are more difficult to hit consistently hard & far, so long as they deliver nothing short or wide. What does England do? Pick one specialist spinner (who doesn't even get through his allocation) & offer Samit to Gayle in full cry! Hardly the best use of your part-timer! Besides the car crash at the top of the order, England was completely out-thought. Sammy may not be the cricketer that Broad is, but he is twice the captain!

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    For me the England side for the next match should be Hales,Lumb,Wright,Morgan,Bairstow, Buttler (wk) ,Patel,Swann,Broad,Finn,Briggs. If they feel it is a better pitch for pace then Bres for Patel , but if it is a pacier pitch they still need to bowl in the right areas etc. Collingwood also said re Briggs in that it is more likely to help us reduce the opponents score which is as important as having a big hitting batsman and I also agree with that. Our success in the last WC was often built on reducing opposition's totals. PS also think our batsmen need to learn to use their feet more

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    Re batting, it pains me to say this as a Somerset fan but I think Craig should make way for Lumb with one of the JBs taking the gloves.Collingwood said he always liked the left/right opening combo which I have also said I liked. Also these 2 have opened together for Notts. The only other change could be Bopara coming back in but I really think Bopara is less likely that either the JBs or Morgan to do anything with the bat. As I said before , I also think we need to make it a target to run a single off every ball , at least til the batsman is set rather than have a series of dot balls. Collingwood also said re Briggs in that it is more likely to help us reduce the opponents score which is as important as having a big hitting batsman and I also agree with that.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 18:50 GMT

    It actually amazes me that Broad thought England bowled well. I think we possibly lacked a little luck at times but I certainly wouldn't say be bowled well and I find his comms that he thought WI were 20 or so below par staggering. I'd say it was the other way around and it is incredibly disappointing to peg WI back , even getting rid of the dangerous Samuels and Pollard before they fired only to lose all momentum in the end.Despite him going for runs I thought Wright showed the right idea. Broad bowled with more imagination and variety. But for me Briggs needs to come in either for Dernbach or Patel.I like Dernbach and his thinking but I think he over complicates things at times and his execution often does not match his thinking. So I'd say Dernbach should be replaced either by Briggs if they want 3 spin options or Bres if they want the same pace options in which case I'd bring Briggs in for Patel.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 18:50 GMT

    Well played WI. Usual start from Gayle and Charles came on after a slow start.Gayle showed his experience with the ball even if there is nothing more annoying to an England fan than his smug celebratory dance. Have to also say that WI outfielded England and Russell's stop has to be play of the day for sure and Bravo played well in his brief stay. From England's point of view I feel the final nails in the coffin were the final quarter of the WI inns and the 1st quarter of our inns.On hindsight Morgan could have come in before Jonny but Morgan looked scratchy previously so fair enough.Jonny looked lethatgic to me like we were chasing a total 50 runs lighter.For me and I'm not sure what other England fans think despite him having that one over which went for big runs , I still felt that Swann should have used up his quota of overs above Dernbach. I would have backed Swann to come back with a better over.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    Well done West Indies. Good spin from Broad in is remarks to Ian Bishop.

  • POSTED BY mahjut on | September 27, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    @yorkshirematt...aye, or if Briggs had played instead of Swann maybe England would've kept the score down even further!! of course, maybe he'd've allowed them to go higher!?

  • POSTED BY Nehans on | September 27, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Bairstow should be MOM he was the main difference between two teams

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 18:38 GMT

    Swann must be happy that Gayle is a lefthander and were it not Swann would have conceded many sixes. He is only useful with the ball against lefthanders and most righthanders ought to make a meal of his off-spin, however most of them are too scared to take him on.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    Good win by the 10 man team of the WI.

  • POSTED BY kc69 on | September 27, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    @yorkshirematt:i guess any other bowler would helped WI get to 200 today and Man of the Match should be Bairstow for eating 29 balls and scoring just 18.Wake up lads this is T20.

  • POSTED BY Preethi88 on | September 27, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    wi wasting talent like dwayne smith by making him to warm the benches. Charles is fluke. i dont expext him to score runs heavily and at good pace. He is hit or miss cricketer

  • POSTED BY cyberstudent on | September 27, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    West indies can easily win this match..but they are not bowling upto the standards.. if chris gayle could not bowl so cheaply they would have lost the match.. and WHY Russel did'nt bowl?

  • POSTED BY cyborg on | September 27, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    this was a brilliant game , england suffered a case of swann flu , he was taken apart by the openers along with Patel , Finn was the only bowler who looked there , Johnson charles came out super , now the selectors see what a good player he is , sweet revenge for the lost we had on our last match against them

    thanks

  • POSTED BY cooljack_143 on | September 27, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    NOT CONVINCED BY THE WAY WI WON!!! They should have NOT have taken ENG score this close.Rampaul has been very bad at the death.Pollard with his MEDIUM PACE like Dernbach would have been much of use in the death,& Samuels with his spin would have stuck ENG earlier than they did.18th over by samuels & 19th by Pollard.Taking the pace off in the death will surely add variety & take off options to score.Without Gayle this team doesn't look to go further.Much hyped IPL spinner cannot be effective in Pallakele pitches.

  • POSTED BY Dilectus on | September 27, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    It was exactly the same game as Pak vs NZ. Match was actually one-sided contrary to what scoreline suggests. Why keep wickets in hand when u can't win a game. Why let the run rate soar too high that u would not be able to catch up. Looked like no intent of winning till last few overs. Fact is so called CHAMPS lost the game in mind after couple of wickets in first over. Overall pathetic display against a mediocre bowling attack by the weakest batting line up of the tournament.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    Amazing innings by Morgan great batting poor tactics from England and W.I today a lot of work needs to be done if either sides want to win this competition not making the most of batsman like Bravo and Morgan in 20 overs is unacceptable ! and if not Morgan Butler, England need 1 of those 2 to come in earlier when they're chasing a big score and if you're going to play Wright at least have him opening to try make most of powerplay. Ravi Rampaul bowled great early on but has shown again he is not a death bowler if you remember he choked in the Champions trophy during his final overs and super over last yr to.

  • POSTED BY kevinpp2412 on | September 27, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    now again they need KEVIN PIETERSEN!!! come on ECB sort out this dilemma n bring KP back in team!! alone he is the half side of entire english team........ they need him back of any cost to go thrue the world cup.

  • POSTED BY Sanawana on | September 27, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    I'm a Pak fan but watching WI win a match is so great... Good for cricket! Cricket's alive there! A bit disorganized unit but surely one of the best! Samuel played childishly... He should have rotated the strike before charging..He wasn't comfortable at the crease; he's better than this....

  • POSTED BY newborn1 on | September 27, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    To win a T20 match next batsman who comes in to replace the previous one should face the bowler keeping in mind as if no one has left the pitch, play like an opener thinking that all wickets are intact.

  • POSTED BY cricketoverkill on | September 27, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    Swing track bullies just don't have any clue against spin. It's high time the curators in england start preparing spin friendly tracks.

  • POSTED BY Masooma12 on | September 27, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    west indies a true entertainer......hope they qualify for semi finals

  • POSTED BY The_bowlers_Holding on | September 27, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    It looks to me it is not the spin it is seamers in the first 2 overs, what going on. The score was not as disastrous as it looked like it might be with Gayle in full swing but a loss means it will take a miracle of results to progress.. The best I anticipate is one win probably against NZ, I am not the biggest T20 fan but being at somewhat of a loose end at present find myself watching all of the games, wish I hadn't had the opportunity. Could be a few possible winners but don't see it being from this group. And why bring Morgan in so late?

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    The effort in the field will more than account for 15 runs. Fielding won this game! congratulations to the West Indies especially in the second half.... straight out effort in the field! Congratz to Johnson, congratz to Gayle! but especially to Sammy on rallying the troops, everyone seemed just inspired in the field!

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    i just wanted to say that commentators keep calling it the Chris Gayle dance, or a horse dance, its not just a horse dance, Its GANGNAM STYLE! Chris is a fan of PSY! , google it up yo !

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    To all of you who are writing us off calling us minnows. Do so at your own peril.

  • POSTED BY samincolumbia on | September 27, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    The title of the report should be "West Indies survive Irishman's blast"!!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    well another loss for england..well i find this one pretty amusing because i would like to hear some new excuses from England fans.earlier when they lost to India there were english fans saying the match was shifted on a turning pitch and some even said its a good thing england lost because now they have to face weaker teams but now they have lost to west indies and bet they can't beat SL.well come on englishmen we are waiting for some more hilarious comments or may i say EXCUSES..

  • POSTED BY SurlyCynic on | September 27, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    Luckily 'England' had their Irish batsman to add respectability to the score, with a bit of luck with the skied chances. Still, the loss is not important. What's important is the happy dressing room, and 'Broady', 'Swanny', Bres are feeling comfortable and enjoying the tweets and banter. So what if the man of the series last time is in the commentary box.

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | September 27, 2012, 17:44 GMT

    Before we get a load of tripe from fans of unrelated teams I just want to say I was impressed with England tonight. They may have lost, and to be honest West Indies really deserved the win, but they could have lost their heads in the same way as they did against India. I thought it was a battling performance and as an England fan I am not too dissapointed. As always, if England lose it is best to lose to the Windies.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    England can only win at home, and beat poor teams in the subcontinent

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    Also can people stop harshly blame the spinners at the Pallekele stadium because it doesn't do anything for spin bowlers even Narine got knocked all over the ground 4 overs 0 maidens for 33 runs same with Ajmal recently. I hope our Cricket fans already know that not all Cricket pitches are the same. India and Pakistan should consider themselves lucky that they are at Colombo but regardless Australia will take the trophy home good luck :D

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    Congratulations West Indies too too easy I would love to see you guys face South Africa Steyn v Gayle will be some battle. lol As for England is it really England because the players that are performing the best at least for your team are Irish/South African players? Good luck in your next game :D

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    @AlbertDominiqueThomas You also fail to take into account he had another terrible start today and was given a lifeline when Finn dropped him so how "wrong" I am is hardly clear cut my friend

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 Spot on 100% W.I could have killed the game! a batsman like Dwayne Bravo facing just 7 balls is criminal , Samuels is a weak link and always leaks runs because he bowls so fast with little control Dwayne Bravo is a star player and is not being utilized for his bowling or batting to his potential. Having Badree field at gully a key position especially when Narine is bowling is also another clear mistake as is Narine fielding in the covers for Badree or anyone else W.I need to sharpen up

  • POSTED BY sweetspot on | September 27, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    England play good Test cricket no doubt, but do they have to do it in this game? 18 off 29 balls from young JB? What's his problem? Doesn't know how to get out of the way?

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | September 27, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    If Briggs had played not Patel maybe the score could have been kept down

  • POSTED BY kevinpp2412 on | September 27, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    now again they need KEVIN PIETERSEN!!! come on ECB sort out this dilemma n bring KP back in team!! alone he is the half side of entire english team........ they need him back of any cost to go thrue the world cup.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    @Albert Dominique Thomas I wasn't sure about his selection before this game or the last I'm still not convinced but boy he came good in the end today ! still would not select him ahead of Smith he doesn't have the range of shots and Smith is incredible in the field hopefully today was not a 1 off and he can prove me wrong 1 t20 innings is hardly conclusive

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Sir Sobers is wrong again. Johnson Charles made nearly half the West Indies score. Let's see what the bowling does.

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | September 27, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Even England spinners got batted at this ground though I got to admit it has finally started to just turn a bit at Pallekele.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 27, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    what a waste of start of first 10 overs . many people predicts wi as a tough team to beat in t20 wc but i think it is wrong . they don't carry the momentum to end of the innings which they developed in first 10 overs .

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 27, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    well , at one time west indies were scoring 10 runs per over & were looking to socre 200 easily but the wkt maiden over from broad has changed things .

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    4 runs from the 13th over with 9 wickets in hand this is not acceptable ! There was no need for Samuels to come in today we have 4 of the biggest hitters in the game in Pollard Bravo Russell and Sammy sitting on the sidelines wasting time after a good start, Samuels is only needed if there is an early wicket ! When will W.I and Gibson realize you have to play the T20 game in the moment . . .

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:31 GMT

    No wickets after 11 W.I got to send Pollard in next Sammy and Russell are equally as big hitters as anyone need to up the tempo go hard the batting order is long !

  • POSTED BY Sharbigma on | September 27, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    Watching a tight t20 game is a lot of mental exercise, and can cause mental fatigue as well. This game is not being enjoyed to its fullest by those who followed the first game completely.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    We're 4 overs in as I type and I feel more than ever that we should have gone with a 3rd spinning option. The problem with these pace deliveries - esp with bounce - is that even an edge and it can go for 4 or 6. We're overdoing the short stuff I feel, At least with spin the batsmen often have to make the shots,

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    Why are W.I playing Charles ahead of Smith this is ridiculous unless Smith is injured

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  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    Why are W.I playing Charles ahead of Smith this is ridiculous unless Smith is injured

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | September 27, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    We're 4 overs in as I type and I feel more than ever that we should have gone with a 3rd spinning option. The problem with these pace deliveries - esp with bounce - is that even an edge and it can go for 4 or 6. We're overdoing the short stuff I feel, At least with spin the batsmen often have to make the shots,

  • POSTED BY Sharbigma on | September 27, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    Watching a tight t20 game is a lot of mental exercise, and can cause mental fatigue as well. This game is not being enjoyed to its fullest by those who followed the first game completely.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:31 GMT

    No wickets after 11 W.I got to send Pollard in next Sammy and Russell are equally as big hitters as anyone need to up the tempo go hard the batting order is long !

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    4 runs from the 13th over with 9 wickets in hand this is not acceptable ! There was no need for Samuels to come in today we have 4 of the biggest hitters in the game in Pollard Bravo Russell and Sammy sitting on the sidelines wasting time after a good start, Samuels is only needed if there is an early wicket ! When will W.I and Gibson realize you have to play the T20 game in the moment . . .

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 27, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    well , at one time west indies were scoring 10 runs per over & were looking to socre 200 easily but the wkt maiden over from broad has changed things .

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | September 27, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    what a waste of start of first 10 overs . many people predicts wi as a tough team to beat in t20 wc but i think it is wrong . they don't carry the momentum to end of the innings which they developed in first 10 overs .

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | September 27, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Even England spinners got batted at this ground though I got to admit it has finally started to just turn a bit at Pallekele.

  • POSTED BY on | September 27, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Sir Sobers is wrong again. Johnson Charles made nearly half the West Indies score. Let's see what the bowling does.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 27, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    @Albert Dominique Thomas I wasn't sure about his selection before this game or the last I'm still not convinced but boy he came good in the end today ! still would not select him ahead of Smith he doesn't have the range of shots and Smith is incredible in the field hopefully today was not a 1 off and he can prove me wrong 1 t20 innings is hardly conclusive