India v Australia, 3rd ODI, Mohali October 18, 2013

More testing times likely for the bowlers in Mohali

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Match facts

Saturday, October 19, 2013
Start time 1330 local (0800 GMT)

Big Picture

The metamorphosis of the Jaipur pitch from a good all-round one just a few weeks ago to a fertile 721-run farmland on which the batsmen committed cricketing debauchery made it clear that an ODI series in India has no place for bowlers. Mohali is likely to be another batting paradise with the curator, Daljit Singh, already saying that the good bounce and carry - read: hit through the line - that the pitch afforded during the Champions League matches was a "dress-rehearsal" for the ODI. The grass on the outfield has been given a neat crop too, meaning R Ashwin and Glenn Maxwell will have more or less an equal chance of chasing down the ball.

The pitch in Jaipur was called a "beauty" by a television commentator inciting a quizzical response from the Australia captain. "You reckon that was a beauty?" George Bailey asked with a wry smile, after he had seen his bowlers plundered for a fortune and just getting a wicket in return. Two days after that onslaught in Jaipur, Bailey's scars were still fresh. "It's hard to know what motivates bowlers on these wickets," he said. "I think I would like to see a little bit more help for the bowlers if they bend their backs and a little bit for the spinners." The fast bowlers did derive some help in Pune, but maybe that was just an outlier.

India wouldn't complain with another flat pitch as it neatly neutralises Australia's bowling advantage. Their top order took full toll of the favourable conditions in Jaipur and crafted a win out of what had been a shoddy bowling performance from India's bowlers. Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar's inability to stick to a plan was there for everyone to see, and so was R Ashwin's habit of doling out a long hop every over. Australia's bowlers were taken for runs off good deliveries, but the Indian bowlers, they were rightly punished for their indiscipline. In the end, you can only take six runs for a big hit, and that upper limit saved the Indian bowlers from not looking any worse than their Australian counterparts.

From Australia's perspective, their batting has made the most of a weak bowling attack and put up 300-plus totals twice already. Add to that the 200 they scored in the T20, and it suggests they could be equally potent in a bat-out. What they need is a sprinkling of grass - there was some on the Mohali pitch on the eve of the match, but will it survive the next 24 hours?

Form guide

Australia LWWLW (most recent games first)
India WLWWW

In the spotlight

It was in Mohali against Australia that Shikhar Dhawan's world changed in a matter of four hours. Since setting foot on the ground that day in March, Dhawan has amassed 1028 runs in international cricket - Tests, ODIs, and T20Is - at an average of 60.47 and a strike rate of 97.90, becoming a vital cog in India's line-up. The number of centuries he has hit this year would have gone to five had he scored five more runs in Jaipur, but he did set up the chase that night. The best part about Dhawan's batting is that he has no apparent weaknesses - he plays the fast-bowlers well, he uses his feet against spinners, plays sweeps and the reverse, he runs well between the wickets, and he scores at a fast clip without taking any risks.

Aaron Finch has assumed a similar role to Dhawan's for Australia in limited-overs matches. He has now three half-centuries in a row on this tour, but it's the manner in which he has collected his runs which is impressive. He has tended to be patient early in the innings, leaving a number of deliveries, but with muscular hitting through off side and down the ground, he has quickly made up for the slow starts. Australia will look forward to another one of those starts in Mohali.

Team news

After the battering India's bowlers received in Jaipur, MS Dhoni might be inclined to make at least one change in Mohali before the team for the next four matches is announced. Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar have leaked runs at almost the same rate - 7.87 and 7.83 respectively - and one or both could be forced out. However, with Dhoni's tendency to stick to the same XI, it could be still be a long wait for Jaydev Unadkat and Mohammed Shami.

India (probable) 1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shikhar Dhawan, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Suresh Raina, 5 Yuvraj Singh, 6 MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 and 11 Vinay Kumar/Ishant Sharma/Mohammed Shami/Jaydev Unadkat

Australia's batting has been an efficient machinery and, despite the bowling's collective failure in Jaipur, they may retain the XI. If they do make a change, it's likely to be on the fast-bowling front, with Nathan Coulter-Nile coming in, captain George Bailey said on the eve of the match.

Australia (probable) 1 Aaron Finch, 2 Phillip Hughes, 3 Shane Watson, 4 George Bailey (capt), 5 Adam Voges, 6 Glenn Maxwell, 7 Brad Haddin (wk), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Clint McKay, 11 Xavier Doherty

Stats and trivia

  • No Indian batsman has yet scored a century in ODIs in Mohali. In 12 matches, India has played at the ground, Sachin Tendulkar's 99 against Pakistan in 2007 remains the highest score
  • There have been five instances of teams scoring more than 300 batting first in Mohali - South Africa's 351 being the highest - and only once has the team lost from that position. In the same match where Tendulkar scored 99, Pakistan chased down the 322-run target
  • Australia have played three ODIs against India in Mohali and they have won two of them. Overall, Australia have won four out of five matches in Mohali

Quotes

"There might be a little bit more life here than at the Jaipur wicket. The boundaries are a little bit bigger as well, so … I haven't looked at the past scores or anything, so I don't know what to expect."
George Bailey looks for a silver lining

"I guess the boys were trying bouncers, trying to surprise the opponents with short balls and were trying different things to upset them."
Shikhar Dhawan on Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar's tactics in Jaipur

'No quick fix for India's bowling woes'

Devashish Fuloria is a sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Harmony111 on October 19, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    @Shrikant Manjrekar:

    I honestly failed to see whether you are being sarcastic there or what. I think you are supporting what I said in my prev comment. Dhawan scored an astonishing 248 in 43 overs in SA and we never heard any criticism of that wicket. That 434 match also happened in SA but we never hear that SA wickets are killing Cricket. There indeed is a huge bias against anything Indian among the fans of Eng-Aus and among a few of the SA fans. Guys like Luke Wright, Butler, Root will be talked of as the next big thing on the basis of one innings or or just 3-4 innings. Bowlers like Starc & Pattinson will be said to be top pacers just cos they got some wickets AT HOME in Friendly Conditions yet these same ppl will refuse to say anything praiseworthy for Indian players even after years of top class performances.

    A large no of Ind fans are unusually anti-India for inexplicable reasons & these cause the greatest damage to our image.

  • Pappu_bhai on October 19, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    And if Anybody watches our game all over the world be it a batting pitch or bowling pitch we used to score runs freely and give away runs fast.Recently in England Our games were all high scoring where as matches where India was not involved were not high scoring even in the same pitches.Based on this no body can tell India is only playing in Flat tracks because of BCCI.Yeah we want to find 1 or 2 good bowlers in our team at least 3/4th the ability of Ausise/Eng/SAF bowlers(Asking for Pak will be too much).If we had such bowlers then nobody would have dare enough to spell as "India".Be it in any part of the world.

  • Pappu_bhai on October 19, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Well The Pitch in Jaipur was flat.But That wont take credit from Indian Win.All Indian Bashers Can you expect the same score your team will make in the same pitch if you were Batting against South African Bowlers?But we Indians Believe we could have chased the same target even if It was against South Africa.That shows How much strong we are with Bat and how much weak we are with bowl.

  • Marsh_aussie on October 19, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    First, I dont want to take anything away from the Indians for their victory in 2nd ODI. They deserved to win on the basis of their batting performance. But, anyone who says that Aussie Bowling was worse than Indian bowling is missing a point. When Aussies Bowled, Indian Batsmen had to take some risk to score the runs. It needed special skill to score all those runs. But if you look at Indian bowling, Aussie batsmen never had to take any risk. They were gifted with freebies all the time. Also, Aussie bowlers did their job in the 1st ODI and will continue to do in the coming ODIs. We have to wait & see how Indian Bowlers perform

  • Int.Curator on October 19, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    The facts about Indian architecture.

    The fact that Indians think pitch doctoring is ok is a concern.

    To design and manipulate a pitch to favour any team is unethical.

    To be a professional athlete (express pace bowler) and the outcome of your skill and training is pre-determined by official design.

    Only in India are pitches doctored to this extent!

    George Bailey is to polite!

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    unadkat should get a chance today

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta

    The Indian bus is running on 4 wheels. i.e., A Mishra, Mohammed Shami, AT Rayudu, JD Unadkat. There is no stepney for this bus and hence driver MSD has no option to carry on with the same.

    @Harmony111

    Shikhar Dhawan made some 248 runs recently in List A match...in some 40 overs out 50. Was it in IND? Please elaborate more.

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:44 GMT

    bring amit mishra....!!!

  • Shaggy076 on October 19, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    I'm not sure why people are complaining about the last pitch. It looked to me a typical one-day wicket in India. Fans got plenty of entertainment so bring it on. Time for bowlers to start working on there yorkers again. Both sides have very damaging batting line ups and could see this sort of score in AUstralia as well.

  • Shaggy076 on October 19, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    Bodhisatya Sinha Biswas ; Have you ever heard an Australian player complain about the pitch? I havent not sure why your putting Dhoni on a pedestal for not complaining.

  • Harmony111 on October 19, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    @Shrikant Manjrekar:

    I honestly failed to see whether you are being sarcastic there or what. I think you are supporting what I said in my prev comment. Dhawan scored an astonishing 248 in 43 overs in SA and we never heard any criticism of that wicket. That 434 match also happened in SA but we never hear that SA wickets are killing Cricket. There indeed is a huge bias against anything Indian among the fans of Eng-Aus and among a few of the SA fans. Guys like Luke Wright, Butler, Root will be talked of as the next big thing on the basis of one innings or or just 3-4 innings. Bowlers like Starc & Pattinson will be said to be top pacers just cos they got some wickets AT HOME in Friendly Conditions yet these same ppl will refuse to say anything praiseworthy for Indian players even after years of top class performances.

    A large no of Ind fans are unusually anti-India for inexplicable reasons & these cause the greatest damage to our image.

  • Pappu_bhai on October 19, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    And if Anybody watches our game all over the world be it a batting pitch or bowling pitch we used to score runs freely and give away runs fast.Recently in England Our games were all high scoring where as matches where India was not involved were not high scoring even in the same pitches.Based on this no body can tell India is only playing in Flat tracks because of BCCI.Yeah we want to find 1 or 2 good bowlers in our team at least 3/4th the ability of Ausise/Eng/SAF bowlers(Asking for Pak will be too much).If we had such bowlers then nobody would have dare enough to spell as "India".Be it in any part of the world.

  • Pappu_bhai on October 19, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    Well The Pitch in Jaipur was flat.But That wont take credit from Indian Win.All Indian Bashers Can you expect the same score your team will make in the same pitch if you were Batting against South African Bowlers?But we Indians Believe we could have chased the same target even if It was against South Africa.That shows How much strong we are with Bat and how much weak we are with bowl.

  • Marsh_aussie on October 19, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    First, I dont want to take anything away from the Indians for their victory in 2nd ODI. They deserved to win on the basis of their batting performance. But, anyone who says that Aussie Bowling was worse than Indian bowling is missing a point. When Aussies Bowled, Indian Batsmen had to take some risk to score the runs. It needed special skill to score all those runs. But if you look at Indian bowling, Aussie batsmen never had to take any risk. They were gifted with freebies all the time. Also, Aussie bowlers did their job in the 1st ODI and will continue to do in the coming ODIs. We have to wait & see how Indian Bowlers perform

  • Int.Curator on October 19, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    The facts about Indian architecture.

    The fact that Indians think pitch doctoring is ok is a concern.

    To design and manipulate a pitch to favour any team is unethical.

    To be a professional athlete (express pace bowler) and the outcome of your skill and training is pre-determined by official design.

    Only in India are pitches doctored to this extent!

    George Bailey is to polite!

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    unadkat should get a chance today

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta

    The Indian bus is running on 4 wheels. i.e., A Mishra, Mohammed Shami, AT Rayudu, JD Unadkat. There is no stepney for this bus and hence driver MSD has no option to carry on with the same.

    @Harmony111

    Shikhar Dhawan made some 248 runs recently in List A match...in some 40 overs out 50. Was it in IND? Please elaborate more.

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:44 GMT

    bring amit mishra....!!!

  • Shaggy076 on October 19, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    I'm not sure why people are complaining about the last pitch. It looked to me a typical one-day wicket in India. Fans got plenty of entertainment so bring it on. Time for bowlers to start working on there yorkers again. Both sides have very damaging batting line ups and could see this sort of score in AUstralia as well.

  • Shaggy076 on October 19, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    Bodhisatya Sinha Biswas ; Have you ever heard an Australian player complain about the pitch? I havent not sure why your putting Dhoni on a pedestal for not complaining.

  • The-love on October 19, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    @Vaibhan :- Being an Indian,Thums up from me for your comment. I guess it will be better if we play Mishra in place of Ishant. Even if pitch is not turning,his googly will make something happen.It will not make any difference in fielding department too as both are lazy but Mishra at least knows how to hold the bat.

  • Harmony111 on October 19, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    So Aus scored 359 in 50 overs and India chased it for one wicket in 44 overs then suddenly the talk is that of the wicket being flat? The challenge being thrown around is that India need to do this outside India (&outside Asia). What exactly happened in CT2013? In one of the practice matches, India played Australia, they batted first and scored 300+ runs. Note this was not in India but in England, at a time when the CT2013 was marred by rains. In that match the challenge was the exact opposite. India batted first, scored 300+ and Aus were supposed to chase them. Does anyone know what happened next? Aus were bowled out for ... HA HA HA ... 65.

    SIXTY FIVE is all Aus could manage chasing 300+ on the FAST & BOUNCY ENGLISH WICKETS. India scored 300+ runs in India facing Aus & India scored 300+ in England facing Aus. It was Aus who failed in a bumper manner chasing 300 runs in tough conditions while India easily chased 300+ in India, in Eng & in Aus.

    Who is a flat track bully then?

  • on October 19, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    In this "Preview" of ODI-3, I find there is a little more of the "Review" of ODI 2, than required.

  • GRVJPR on October 19, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    Oh! people are saying flat tracks. The way australia competed in test series on spinning bowler friendly tracks, we need to provide them flat tracks so that there is some cricket lasting at least 7 hours. Otherwise all matches would be over in hours with india winning by even greater margins. Bowler friendly tracks - What they did In India in test series?? Can't play spin and can't play seam, and asking for bowler friendly tracks. LOL!

  • on October 19, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    @landl47. Indian fans (and sometime even Indian journalists) are more critical than the non-Indians, when it comes to pointing out our team's deficiencies, poor performance, or other problem areas. Some times, I feel that we (that includes me) are MORE critical than what is needed!

  • on October 19, 2013, 6:48 GMT

    India squad:

    A Mishra, Mohammed Shami, AT Rayudu, JD Unadkat: Are these four guys included in the team to give them adequate practice in carrying drinks, gloves, bats, helmets, inside protective pads, outside protective pads etc, under different conditions: like when India is doing Average, Well, or Excellent... or, when India is doing Not so Well, Badly, Getting Clobbered, etc.... in international match conditions? Also, when guys in the playing XI are in different moods, how you sere them may differ!

    Are they going to be included in the Indian team for next World Cup in Australia & NZ? If so, should we not send them for training in OZ & NZ for carrying drinks and other paraphernalia, in those conditions? Are these not legitimate questions?

    Incidentally, how many of these four may get dropped for the last 4 ODIs? Without being tried not even in one match? Your guess is as good as mine.

    More questions are coming up in my mind, like mountain springs. But I got them "capped".

  • Baundele on October 19, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    Really enjoyed reading the preview. The comparison of fielding effort by Ashwin and Maxwell is perfect. "In the end, you can only take six runs for a big hit, ..." - a great sense of humor.

  • on October 19, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    A very very good article, that 2nd ODI was a joke of a game, I don't even play computer games if it is that easy for me to bat, I won't place the entire blame on the pitch though, of course it is one of the major factors but I think the ODI rule changes esp the 'only 4 fielders outside the circle' is quite a pathetic one, two new balls also ensure that the ball is harder for the entire duration of the game and the reverse swing concept is completely taken out of the equation. soon 400-500 will be normal scores.

  • on October 19, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    This article looks blatantly anti-Indian. Better bowlers are better bowlers under all conditions, not just favorable conditions. The moment a side OR its supporters start to look for reasons beyond their own inability to perform, you know that they are simply good-for-nothing losers at heart. The Australian average batsmen could score only 359 against India's good-for-nothing bowling attack. India's marginally above average batsmen (For all the hoopla about Dhawan, Rohit & Kohli, they are nowhere near earlier batting trios - Gilchrist, Waugh, Ponting OR Greenidge, Haynes, Richards OR even Sachin, Sehwag, Ganguli.....). So, if these 3 Indians managed to knock 360 off the Australian bowlers in 43 overs, there has to be some superiority somewhere in the Indian side. Australia-backers, when you claim that the conditions helped marginally above average Indian batsmen score that kind of runs in just 43 overs, do you realize that you are effectively calling Australians crappy batsmen ?

  • blthndr on October 19, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    the thing is that indian pitches are always like this type of flat at least in one dayers....it the game that has been changed by time....due to t20 cricket cricketers are more confident abt clear the boundry and dont afraid to play those bold shot which are rare in few years ago...and add to dat icc's 4 fielders out side the ring which also a reason to score fast....so we ll see more often 300 these days.....

  • DD_f0rever on October 19, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    @ Albert_cambell (fake)...Home track Bully ?

    You say Ind batsmen are home track bullies. That means pitches are easy to bat. (Bowlers will struggle !)

    Now you saying Kumble is a home track Bully ? Means Pitches are easy to pick wickets ? lol

    Decide one thing, whether Ind pitches are easy for batting or bowling. HaHa... and then give tag of "Bully" to someone.

    It does not look good when you make fun of yourself time and again. Btw I tell you Kumble has scored a test 100 in England. So either Eng pitches are flat or Indians are so TALENTED that even their bowlers score centuries on bouncy pitches of Eng. :P

  • on October 19, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Amidst all the thing happening around we tend to forget this is supposed to be a home series for the Indians, Played in India and subcontinent tracks. The Oz cannot expect green bouncy pitches like Perth or Brisbane. A world champion team is a team which wins in all conditions and plays like a true winner on whatever is dished out to them. I have never heard Dhoni complaining about the nature or pitches and grounds or conditions while playing on foreign soil. Winning is an important thing but attitude is all that makes you a true champion !!!!

  • mcnick on October 19, 2013, 4:51 GMT

    As a long time watcher of cricket in India, I have been really impressed by the improvement in pitches, outfields and crowd facilities over the time that the BCCI has become such a financial power. All I can say is that I would hate to be a bowler in modern day cricket-with the changes in batting techniques, the quality of wickets and the nature of bats nowadays, I will be advising my grandchildren to become batters. (A boy and a girl) Check out world wide trends in short form cricket- I'm sure you will find the same trend in every country!!!!

  • on October 19, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    Nothing to take away from the Indian batsmen and fans - it does require some serious mental ability to chase down such a target - but these pitches are, in fact, quite unfair to the bowlers. Being a neutral, I can imagine the frustration of bowlers like Mitchell Johnson, who, in such harsh conditions, are steaming in to bowl a delivery of 153 kph, only to be smashed as easy it gets.

    Anyway, hope to see a balanced and a better match between the 2 best ODI outfits.

  • on October 19, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    @landl47 as an Indian and a cricket fan i couldn't agree with you more :) Yes its true our team has a obvious weakness and that is our bowling like every other team in the world has some weakness.But it is also not true that every Indian fan only want hear praise for India,we also want good and competitive cricket around the world and believe me your team or aus or SA has got so many supporters in our country too thats what makes cricket special.Its just some guys from every country(everyone know those names on cricinfo,don't need to point out) who don't know how to keep that spirit alive and claim to be cricket fans.

  • Cricket_Is_Oxygen on October 19, 2013, 4:06 GMT

    Ha ha i don't understand some of the comments by the aussie fans.. Oh! god!If their bowlers torment the indian bowling attack,it's pure talent.if it's the vice versa then the pitch becomes bad one. ha. we indians are so generous that players like finch,maxwell who are nothing but pure sloggers have scored fifties.only watson and bailey possess the technique to survive any kind of pitch.. then the funnist thing of all. philip hughes is scoring runs against spin.during the test series he was so pathetic against spin bowling.if we produce a spinning track u call it a mine field in case we produce a batting track u call it a dead rubber. Are u producing a spinning track when we come to perth? Come on aussies bring it on..14 of the 15 players in this aussie squad have a IPL contract except doherty. most of the players know about the conditions here yet u fans keep on crying. thing is u don't have the ability to win.take that! Go India Go!

  • Waseemswaaa on October 19, 2013, 3:29 GMT

    I want India to bat first today, let Aus chase

  • Iceman29 on October 19, 2013, 3:00 GMT

    @landl47: it is unfair that u spaeking that all Indians only praising their players this means that u have read a few comments replied to sl fans comments....we know our bowling is our weakness and all the indian fans need changes inbowling department..we criticize our olayers like hell if they dint perform...we get sick and tired only when fans from other countries dont respect our players and bash them no matter how good we play....u can only understand this only when it happens to u my friend...

  • Albert_cambell on October 19, 2013, 2:48 GMT

    @ gsingh7. Ashwin is way better than Kumble. Kumble used to be biggest home track bully during his time.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on October 19, 2013, 2:47 GMT

    @landl47, what are supporting pitches? Can you make a spinning wicket any where in Eng? Very few of them assist spin. Also in India, Mohali and Dharamshala (soon going to be on Intl map, or is it already) are pace friendly wickets. Mohali has changed ins character in last 4-5 years, but still seams around Dec-Feb (winters). We can not have fast wickets in rest of India. So only option left is either 1) flat 2) spinning. So if curator makes a spinning wicket (you know what was test series result against Aus?), any visitors will cry more. So only option is flat tracks where both teams have equal opportunities. Obviously being home advantage always lies with India. But thats same world over.

  • Prem-balu on October 19, 2013, 2:18 GMT

    why can't we combine both the new rule and the old rule. Have 2 balls i.e. 1 new ball from each end and after 35 overs just use 1 ball of the choice do the bowling team....that would bring spinners into play as well as have new ball bowlers interested in keeping the shine.

  • on October 19, 2013, 2:14 GMT

    jaipur pitch was not as bad as that there is no chance for bowlers. u see it was a slow pitch. on slow pitch bowling a bit further to good length area works. for that bowler need to have accuracy and guts!!

  • redneck on October 19, 2013, 1:21 GMT

    These indian grounds might aswell sack their curators and lay a cement slab for all their odis.

  • Lion83 on October 19, 2013, 1:06 GMT

    No place for Bowlers in India thats the point

  • MrCricket0099 on October 18, 2013, 23:09 GMT

    721 runs, this is a sad sight for cricket. It makes me sad to see this.

    For Indian fans that boast about their team being the best in the world, I will say it once more. India depend on Flat-Tracks, and they are the ultimate flat track bullies. #1 in only flat tracks.

  • on October 18, 2013, 22:02 GMT

    About time bowlers and cricket pundits stopped giving excuses around the pitch. Whatever the pitch, the player should be good enougj to adapt. There is NO Excuse for bowling short and wide or waist higj full tosses. grass or no grass u will get hammered. Good lenth, corridor of uncertainty, block hole...are these out of modern day bowlers' dictionary? i'm tired of lame excuses based on pitch! damn it!

  • jb633 on October 18, 2013, 21:58 GMT

    How about this scenario. We scrap bowlers from each side and just get a bowling machine in use. We can compare how far Kholi and Watson can hit the ball and whoever hits it the furthest will win the game for their side. I am kidding of course but on a serious note I do hope the ball will at least do something for spinners or seamers. If India create a bunsen they will destroy the Aussies. I don't mind seeing one or two roads in a series as it is entertaining once in a while to watch players like Kholi have everything in their favour and see how good they can be. However for the good of the game it's still important we see bowlers winning games as there does need to be a balance somewhere. In terms of Mohali I am backing a big Indian win with Dhoni surely having a say at some point lol. Good luck to both sides

  • Nampally on October 18, 2013, 21:30 GMT

    I hate to see the same Indian XI taking the field as is Dhoni's oft seen habit. It is time to convey the message to Ishant by benching him & get Unadkat in. He brings the LH option with better accuracy. Unfortunately Dhoni does not like leg spinners, which rules out another deserving option of Mishra. Although India won the last test, it was just 3 guys who showed how good they are. Even so had Haddin taken a relatively easy catch off Dhawan, it is likely Kohli could not have played the innings he did & Dhawan would have got out at 19 instead of 95. India victory was set up by 176 run opening partnership. Chances of this happening twice in a row are < 50/50. So the entire Indian team needs to be prepared to fight it out this time. Secondly Indian bowling has to restrict the score to <250. Aussies will be keen to get another 300 & focus more on bowling + fielding, as they did in ODI #1. Bailey, Hughes, Maxwell & Finch - the main bats & pace bowlers their main weapons. Good luck Guys!

  • Bonehead_maz on October 18, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    1-1, bring on Mohali :) Brilliant batting by Indian top order last match. Any chances we Aussies get, especially early on, we simply MUST take !

  • Mervo on October 18, 2013, 20:30 GMT

    If India keep making pitches like this, then please leave the bowlers out. Use the practice bowling machine and give the poor guys a rest.

  • bigdhonifan on October 18, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    @Blade-Runner The real Indian Flat tracks where Sangakkara or Mahela was a failure.. when all Indian batsman scores tons in Sri Lanka

  • WAiWiA on October 18, 2013, 19:39 GMT

    @Blade-runner:

    Dude, don't you ever get tired of commenting on cricinfo specifically on Ind vs Opponent matches? Are you gonna wake up again at 4AM hoping Ind will get a drubbing at the hands of Aus? Have you forgotten what its like to watch cricket for fun? I suppose one of your hobbies include: Posting on cricinfo on India matches. :)

    Anyway, regarding your comment lauding the author, let me remind you of what was said before the match. "1.25pm It's almost game time here. Can India's bowlers put in a stronger display today with a more conducive pitch for fast bowling, or will Australia's comfort on bouncy conditions transfer the advantage away from the home side?"

    And now, refer back to the article above. Very contradicting, ain't it?

  • on October 18, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    Well, most of the comments appearing here smell more of jealousy rather than trying to make a valid point, since for obvious reasons they r comin not from aussie fans but India haters.

    Also, to those India bashers, this forum is for the preview of the 3rd ODI and not report to the 2nd ODI. You guys seem more sad than we are happy about the result of the 2nd ODI, get on with it.

    I get to hear a lot about the pitch here, I am sure people wud agree that 2 players of the Aussie team had much more experience on the said pitch than the total of their 11 counterparts. I remember reading somewhr b4 the 2nd ODI tht the aussie team has benefited a lot by the tips provided by Watson and Faulkner and I am sure it must be true.. The comments here wud make 1 wonder if India were offered another pitch to go about the chase. So for one last time I will ask the question, Why the fuss about the pitch?

  • devil_in_details on October 18, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    I also think we are being a tad too harsh on the bowlers. At least give them a sporting pitch before passing judgement on them. Not too long back the Indian bowling attack was bowling out oppositions comfortably in England and West Indies. So while Ishant and Vinay and Ashwin and Jadeja have not set the stage on fire so far they are also not as bad as the placid pitch makes them out to be. Also 7 match series is a long one and the remaining 5 pitches may not be as batsmen friendly so we must be patient before branding all our bowlers completely useless and asking for their replacements. Mohali, Ranchi and Cuttack should provide for more assistance to bowlers and that could show the true mettle of both teams' bowling.

  • on October 18, 2013, 19:26 GMT

    Shikhar, Rohit & Virat ...... We salute you. Bang on target !! Finally, Somebody has guts to say it out loud after coming out from fast asleep for 48 hours. "from a good all-round one just a few weeks ago to a feast of 359-run chase made it clear that an ODI series in India has become learning center for aspiring batsmen" Precious!!!! The truth prevails, aint it ?? :))

    And some fans wake up at 4 early in the morning to enjoy the Indian batting wrist works. After thoroughly enjoyment, they got asleep for 2 days in a great satisfaction.

  • Harmony111 on October 18, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    @landl47: Odd to know you are English. I had the impression all along that you were an Aussie.

    I did not mean it specifically to you actually. I was talking about the general tendency of nearly all Eng-Aus fans & a few of the SA fans to say that India win on only a certain kind of wickets. The overall tendency is to somehow never ack good performance by India and to amplify any bad performance. For eg India lost 0-8 in Eng & Aus and this is used repeatedly against them. It is even said that India no longer respect tests. However, Aus are 0-8 in India too and are 0-7 overall of late but we don't hear similar statements against them.

    Most Ind fans are overtly self critical if you have noticed. We leave no stone unturned in making fun of Ishant, Vinay, Ashwin, Jadeja & don't spare even Sachin & Dhoni. So we are all open to criticism provided it is fair and has some basis.

    India lost the 1st ODI & many Aussie fans were like India are a poor #1 blah blah. This irks us the most.

  • gsingh7 on October 18, 2013, 19:05 GMT

    @landl-- appreciate ur concerns,mate. i guess indians have different inclinations and they want to see balls being tonked into high orbits and bowlers disheartened(but not indian bowlers).also wickets are prisoners to local climates and cannot be made on ones wishes. i dont think bcci is too concerned what english fans (if ur english) want to see in these odis. they are only interested in seeing india win series (whitewash wud have been best )and lining their pockets. u have to wait to watch proper balance between bat and bowl in ashes. thanks for sharing ur concerns,though.hope bcci do something for english fans in near future.

  • Blade-Runner on October 18, 2013, 18:51 GMT

    Mr.Devashish Fuloria , I salute you. Bang on target !! Finally, Somebody has guts to say it out loud. "from a good all-round one just a few weeks ago to a fertile 721-run farmland on which the batsmen committed cricketing debauchery made it clear that an ODI series in India has no place for bowler" Priceless !!!! The truth hurts, aint it ?? :))

  • Lets_Bash_Indians on October 18, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    People Like Shahadat Hossain & Akshay Jain are the reason why we have Middle Fingers . #peace

  • RajeshNaik on October 18, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    Bowlers will do well for India in 3rd ODI.

  • landl47 on October 18, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    @Harmony111: no, I wouldn't. In fact, when England were in India last year I had no problem with the games being played on turning wickets and said so at the time (maybe you missed that?).

    I'm a neutral in this series and I want to see good cricket. I don't think ultra-flat wickets, like Jaipur, make for that. I also don't think that India can only win on flat surfaces; I just think it gives them a better chance against Australia. I picked India to win this series comfortably before the series started and I didn't know then what the conditions would be.

    There are a lot of Indian fans who don't want to hear anything but what a wonderful side India is. They are a good side, but have weaknesses, like most other sides. Pointing them out is not bashing India, unless it's only India that gets criticized. I criticize all teams (including my England side) for what they do badly and praise them all for what they do well. I just want to see good cricket.

  • on October 18, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    The entire article written by Devashish Fuloria not only in perspective of Australia but also degrading the Indian cricketers particularly. This is exactly same as previous one. Can't we see neutral opinion here? Last article emphasised on Indian batsmen weakness as they are jumping & hoping against Aus quicks. Today it suddenly changed into "Australia's bowlers were taken for runs off good deliveries, but the Indian bowlers, they were rightly punished for their indiscipline." What about Hobart, Wellington, Jo'berg, Sydney, Adelaide, RPS colombo, Karachi, Dhaka, Lords, Taunton, Blom'tain and many? Aren't they batting paradise? There wasn't any criticism on CT 2013 venues. When India performs, it becomes fashion to call mockery of each thing associated with IND. When IND loses, it attracts critics of inability to play against fast bowlers.

    I don't think IND needs certificate from any one. Whether some one like or not, the fact remained unchanged that IND winning on merits & skill.

  • Harmony111 on October 18, 2013, 18:33 GMT

    The author's usage of some words here may hurt the Ind fans a bit but I honestly do not think that he is much wrong there. Truth is that Ishant Sharma & co did bowl some really pathetic deliveries. Ashwin too is bowling quite badly these days and Jadeja is somehow trying to bowl faster and faster. Aus managed to get 359 in the 2nd ODI thanks largely to their good hitting and also due to the ultra poor bowling of India. Remember that India gave 140 runs in the last 10 overs.

    Compared to this, Aus did bowl rather well in the 2nd innings but the India batting was of such a high quality that even the reasonably good bowling by Aussies failed to contain them and in the end the 3 three Indian batsmen annihilated the Aussie bowlers completely.

    Look at this this way, Indian bowlers can still improve and can restrict the Aussie batsmen but the Aussie bowlers are already bowling reasonably well so how will they stop us? India have chased 200 & 359 so the real joke is on the Aussies now.

  • DD_f0rever on October 18, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    @ sachinisawesome

    Spot on, mate.

    I remember when India toured SL for Test series some years back. In one of the matches Ind was without ZaK, SL won toss, batted first and scored plenty of runs some 500-600. Discussion was "How ordinary Indian bowling is", "How good SL batsmen are". When on Day 2-3 (when pitch starts deteriorating for batting) Indian batsmen started batting and scored plenty of runs. All of a sudden, the discussion changed to "How FLAT the pitch is !"

    I mean, come on ! Give credit to Indian players where it is due. But Critics are Critics. Bashing Team Ind seems to be their bread and butter, no matter what.

    But one thing is for sure, One just can NOT Ignore India. ;)

  • gsingh7 on October 18, 2013, 18:29 GMT

    @srini-- mate, its not about tn or punjab.ashwin was flogged in past few odi matches. dont cite test records here.if rules are 2 balls and no time for wickets to break up then its not an excuse for ashwin to hide behind it.let other bowlers try their doosras on non turning tracks.where was ashwin when england won on rank turners of mumbai and kolkatta. i guess he was bowling his caroom balls to kp and cook.australian batting is not a patch on world class batsmen that england has. dont compare apples to oranges.indian team is proud team of 28 states ,dont be so regional in ur comments.

  • wonderstar1 on October 18, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    such a meaningless tournament. Ind shud be more focused on preparing for the all important SA series instead of this pyjama play which will be forgotten in a few days and more importantly India or BCCI must not poke someone else what to do and what not to do(If you know what i mean). Yes, Australia shud focus on all important Ashes.

  • Unmesh_cric on October 18, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    @gsingh7, those nicknames are hilarious, especially Vinay- the India Dernbach. But I guess there is only one nickname for Ishant Sharma and that is - Ishant Sharma. Ishant Sharma bowls like Ishant Sharma and gets hammered in every ODI he plays :-)

  • gsingh7 on October 18, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    literally rofl at sachinawesome comment. u r awesome like ur namesake.indian fans logic after vinay conseded 70 runs in 8 overs but took 1 wicket- atleast he took a wicket which is more than anybody else.

  • HarshaBoycott on October 18, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    Devashish Fuloria....if you are reading the feedback to your horrible piece of writting, you would know people donot like cynics like you in the guise of writers.

  • Srini_Indian on October 18, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    @Haleos: Give it a rest. Do you realize how difficult is for a spinner to bowl in these flat pitches with 2 new balls? ICC made these changes to make spinners less effective. Sure Ashwin has to perform better but your comment on "he performed a long before" is just ridiculous. Do you know that Ashwin is the leading wicket taker in Aus test series and another good performance in CT? I know you hate TN players but nothing you can do about it other than spewing your hatred here.

  • on October 18, 2013, 18:05 GMT

    Shami Ahmed should play instead of Ishant sharma and Amit Mishra should play instead of Ravichandran Ashwin ........ Ishant sharma doesnt deserve to play for india ... we really need a replacement for him

  • on October 18, 2013, 18:01 GMT

    I wish there was a coach who could teach the CONSISTENCY to Indian bowlers. Mc.Grath, Pollock never had menacing pace, all they had was consistent nagging 4'th stump line. If bowler's consistent for 6 ball's in an over setting fields would be very easy even on a dead flat pitch and getting batsmen out of frustration will be even easier. I wish COSNISTENCY could be taught to someone. I wish...

  • on October 18, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    more non indians want ashwin out of the team tha indians I wonder why

  • gsingh7 on October 18, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    please for the sake of indian fans dont play 'indian mendis'- ashwin and 'indian dernbach'- vinay . why are these sub standard bowlers given free pass in a country of 1.3 billion people when there are few thousand professional cricketers currently playing cricket. give chance to mishra ,chawla,ojha , or even r.sharma or nadeem. mohit sharma,sandeep sharma,etc are playing domestic cricket when they are much better than pie throwers like vinay and ishant. hope we see rohit back to his ipl form and yuvi to play a solid role in indian win to cement his place.

  • Playfair on October 18, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    unadkat and amit mishra for Sharma and Ashwin! Sharma for sure, the guy has of late been very disappointing!

  • bbnn on October 18, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    @sachinisawesome ,ha ha this is what happening always, you said it !

  • WAiWiA on October 18, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    @sachinisaweseome: That is so true mate. If Aus had won the second match (and that was the result pretty much everyone expected at the end of the Aussie innings), the talk would have been more about how flawed the ODI ranking system is for calling India the No.1 team. But since India won (and so overwhelmingly, I might add) people are trying to find rather negative reasons to concur on why they performed so well.

    Cricket is a mind game and also a game where confidence in yourself can take you places. When the bowling attack picks up early wickets, it becomes harder for the batting side to recover and counter the attack, regardless of the pitch. And vice versa. The 2nd ODI is a prime example where the batting side stayed on top of the bowling throughout. The aggression shown by the young Indian talent was really fantastic.

    3rd game brings both the teams to a nice leveled base where neither team will underestimate each other and should be fun to watch. All the best to both teams.

  • StarHawk on October 18, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    @Kiran Shreshta, what a joke!! You call the likes of watson, doherty & johnson quality bowlers??? hahaha....quality bowlers must be able to bowl well in all conditions, not just in greentops available back home. I guess the pasting they got in the hands of the Indians mean they can only bowl well at home?

  • Srini_Indian on October 18, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    What a pathetic article. The whole article concentrated on how flat the wicket was and how Australia's bowling advantage was neutralised. With 2 new balls, even in dry pitches there is not enough turn. You expect a green top? What is the bowling advantage Aus has? Apart from Johnson, rest are dibbly-dobbly medium pace trundlers. Even Johnson is erratic and pummelled more often than not. I can't understand why Bailey chuckled when Ravi said the pitch as beauty. We all know how these Aus batsmen play when the pitch spins. Bailey should be happy that India is giving them flat tracks which is the reason why the series is competitive.

  • StarHawk on October 18, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    So, according to Cricinfo and some of the comments here, Australia scored 359 because the Indian bowling is pathetic, and India scored 360 because the pitch is flat (and not because the Aussie bowling is poor)??? What kind of logic is that?

  • dannyfernandes on October 18, 2013, 17:41 GMT

    Please do not compare johnson, faulkner, watson since they are only for quality less australian batting lineup on good pitches and not to the indian batsmen who are of the highest class. Before commenting please remember that they won Champions trophy in england in testing english conditions and against some of the high class bowlers.

  • Harmony111 on October 18, 2013, 17:30 GMT

    @sachinisawesome:

    ABSOLUTELY KILLER comment. You have very neatly expressed the mindset of the India Bashers. As per them India were lucky to win the WC 20111 cos it got easy due to the dew, they won't see that SL had won the toss and could have chased. As per them India were lucky to win the CT2013 cos an ODI was played like a T20 and Idia have plenty of IPL exp, they won't see that chasing 130 in 20 overs in an uninterrupted innings has been quite easy since eternity. Chasing 360 with just one wicket in 44 overs in mind-boggling esp cos India were supposedly under pressure from the high quality fast Aussie bowling but all these things vaporize the moment India win. If India win it is due to luck and condition mgt and if India lose then it always due to the skill of the other team.

    Each time these guys are challenged to offer one iota of evidence to back their claims they simply disappear. I hope you remember Mr KiwiRocker. He never took my challenge.

  • SRAM20 on October 18, 2013, 17:21 GMT

    If bowlers need respite in the subcontinent for ODI's and T20's, then this new rule of two new balls should be abolished immediately. Its not helping the spinners nor the fast bowlers. In Indian conditions, the fast bowlers don't get any purchase whatsoever no matter what the ball is. They don't get reverse swing since the ball is switched constantly. And the spinners also don't get enough turn. Add to it the 4 fielders outside the circle rule. Its killing bowlers, even bigger in the subcontinent.

    It could soon become a video game style matches. Good thing that Dhoni, the team and BCCI want the new rule abolished.

  • on October 18, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    The first thing Ishant has knot his hair and then he has buy good shoes.. thats it.. line and length will automatically come.. he is unware where is bowling since his hair blocking his view..

  • gsingh7 on October 18, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    what did bailey expects from indian wickets?? if he has other ideas then indian batsmen will clear his doubts by inflicting more batting lessons to aus bowlers. indians always prepare pitches so foreign teams chase leather from ball one and indian bowlers are just to ball customary 50 overs for their batsmen to chase watever the target is set . expecting another big win from world champions - india.

  • sachinisawesome on October 18, 2013, 17:16 GMT

    INDIA HATERS LOGIC India Haters - "Lets see there is a match going on. Oh Its India vs opponent, Oh great India lost, Let me make a comment and demean India. "

    Comment - Is this how a so called no. 1 team plays. really pathetic cricket all around. Rankings are flawed.

    India Haters - "Lets see there is a match going on. Oh Its India vs opponent, Oh no India won. Let me make a comment and demean India."

    Comment - I don't know how ICC allows India to make these highways. India can only win on Doctored pitches, When India won CT in England, ICC categorically made pitches for India. When opponent was batting first and scored 180 in 50 overs it was swinging and was very difficult to bat but in 30 minutes when India started batting and chased it inside 40 overs with 7 wickets in hand, It became a road, There was no swing. India is killing world cricket by making pitches like these.

  • sachinisawesome on October 18, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    INDIA HATERS LOGIC India Haters - "Lets see there is a match going on. Oh Its India vs opponent, Oh great India lost, Let me make a comment and demean India. "

    Comment - Is this how a so called no. 1 team plays. really pathetic cricket all around. Rankings are flawed.

    India Haters - "Lets see there is a match going on. Oh Its India vs opponent, Oh no India won. Let me make a comment and demean India."

    Comment - I don't know how ICC allows India to make these highways. India can only win on Doctored pitches, When India won CT in England, ICC categorically made pitches for India. When opponent was batting first and scored 180 in 50 overs it was swinging and was very difficult to bat but in 30 minutes when India started batting and chased it inside 40 overs with 7 wickets in hand, It became a road, There was no swing. India is killing world cricket by making pitches like these.

  • on October 18, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    Wicket would be good for batsmen. But i believe bowlers would like this surface aswel as it wont be as flat as jaipur

  • Harmony111 on October 18, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    @landl47: But then you would say India won on a dustbowl. We have heard this many times in the past. The preview of the 2nd ODI said another pace test awaits India but when India cleared it in flying colors chasing the 2nd highest total ever then suddenly the refrain changed to how the wicket was super flat and that there was nothing in it for bowlers. All the talk of the pace test vanished after that. So either way India are going to be criticized.

  • sachinisawesome on October 18, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    Nobody talks about the pitch where dhawan scored 248 in ODI and still 7 overs were left when he got out. I believe it was in SA.

  • on October 18, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    falt dead pitches... made for indian batsman.

  • VKohlitheGreat on October 18, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    Dont understand why the pitches are being severely criticized. Subcontinent pitches are known to bea batting paradise. Now with two new balls, it becomes a bit more difficult for spinners to grip and turn the ball. Considering India has Jadeja, ashwin, Raina and Yuvi, you are lookin at getting atleast 20-25 overs out of them. Its going to be increasingly difficult to restrict the batsmen with the balls turning less and less. Add the new rule of having only 4 fielders outside the circle, the game in itself is becoming batsmen friendly.

  • on October 18, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    I don't think the pitches have changed much at all. ODI series in India have almost always aided batting and the pitches have been flat all the time. It's just that the new rules have really killed the contest between bat and ball. Earlier,the death overs would be more of a contest and even though big runs were still scored,they had to be earned and bowlers having the ability to reverse swing could really exploit it and there was some very good cricket. Now with 2 new balls,just 4 outside the circle almost all the time,there is very little even the very skilled bowlers could do as what the batsmen have to do is just wait and then they know the can tear later.

  • devil_in_details on October 18, 2013, 16:07 GMT

    The pitch in Mohali may not be as batsmen friendly as Jaipur. Last few matches played certainly suggests a score of around 275-300 rather than 300-350. There have been a few scores of 230 or there-abouts as well. So I think one can expect a much better balance between ball and bat in Mohali.

  • VKohlitheGreat on October 18, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    @Haleos - Agreed, but you need to show faith in players, he definitely has the skills. I dont think pulling him out in the middle of a series is the right approach, when you have him in your foresight for WC15- There are still five more matches to be played and if his performance is still poor in them(Considering the games are in India), then he needs to move on and play some Ranji matches. Also, is Amit Mishra (googly spinner with an occasional leggy) good enough to replace him ? Will dhoni ever throw the towel to him in power-plays ?

    Whilst India's bench strength is amazing in Batting - Our bowling lacks the same. Most of the bowlers are not a first choice in selection, but are there because of lack of choice.

  • on October 18, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    it seems batting second has lot advantages in these conditions.looking forward to see how indian bowlers perform in the second innings

  • on October 18, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    does anyone know when did ishant sharma bowled a good delivery last time? I can't recall maybe there hasn't been one in a long time, we've got to give unadkat a try, he coukd turn out to be the next left arm spear head after zaheer, we need discipline in the bowling if atleast not pace, which i dont think ishant sharma has at all, forget about the pace, dude doesn't even know how to ball, its about time he gets sacked, get a new bowler in. There are bunch of waiting in line to wear that indian jersey. Give em a try, they won't get smashed atleast for runs.

  • KaptaanCricket on October 18, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    India should make wickets for a healthy competition between bat & ball and not bat & bat.

  • on October 18, 2013, 15:44 GMT

    India probable 1) Dhawan, 2) Kohli, 3) Yuvraj.... India confirmed 1) Rohit Sharma, 2) Vinay Kumar, 3) Ishant Sharma....

  • praneeth5 on October 18, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    @yezdi70 - Have you forgotten Champions Trophy?

  • vxttemp on October 18, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    @yezdi70: Are u sleeping during the champions trophy this year in UK?

  • Podicheti on October 18, 2013, 15:40 GMT

    @ nicks_28785 - precisely said!!

  • Kash89 on October 18, 2013, 15:40 GMT

    We all know that human mind evolves and along with it does the games we play....Cricket is no exception...Thats y i feel Sunil Narian or an Ajmal seem to have evolved as bowlers....Lots of batsmen have proved time and again that bat wins over the ball with newer techniques and out thinking the bowlers...I strongly feel that most bowlers are failing to think...The more u physically train bowlers the more they lose the power to think..Why was Wasim or waqar greater than shoaib or Donald in terms of stats?? Its because they were smart and not because they were physically fit and could throw the fast ball...In India bowlers at school/District/State level never are treated equal to batsmen who are considered stylish and classy...Start giving more MOM awards to bowlers ...All those who criticize bowling try to encourage your kids to like people like steyn/Sunil/Bhuvi other than buying him a bat and asking him to play cover drive...Its all in the mind...Specially with indians...

  • Haleos on October 18, 2013, 15:37 GMT

    @ bladerunners_daddy - the past that you mentioned Ashwin delivered was long long back in history. He needs to be sent back to Ranji, Wont happen though. CSK rules.

  • on October 18, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Can we replace Ishant & Vinay with Shami & Unadkat. They can't be any worse than Ishant & Vinay; but how would we know,unless we try them out. Who knows they may be better! I also noticed when Shami is playing with Bhuvi in the same match, both raise their game a bit. That friendly competition can be good for them, and for India.

    Please also ask Ashwin to practice three things (1) Line & Length (2) Line & Length, and (3) Line & length. Also stop the farce of the "pause-release" Tamasha. It gives the batsmen MORE time to read the ball correctly.

    Jadeja had gradually developed excellent accuracy over the past year or two, and bowling to Dhoni's field settings, which brought him wickets. In the last few matches, he is losing the accuracy quite often, and losing his effectiveness. I will still keep him, though, for his energy level in the field could be positively contagious, which is needed more in Mohali.

    Overall, the Indian bowlers have to raise their game, by several notches!

  • devil_in_details on October 18, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    The pitch in Mohali may now be as batsmen friendly as others. Last few matches played certainly suggests a score of around 275-300 rather than 300-350. There have been a few scores of 230 or there-abouts as well. So I am expecting a much better balance between bowl and bat in Mohali.

  • AsherCA on October 18, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    For all those trying to credit pitch conditions for India's win - For India to get so many more runs against Australian bowlers than their batsmen got from our bowlers, Under the conditions, either India performed substantially better with the bat, OR with the ball. Either way, on that day's performance, India was a far superior side. If Bailey's argument is - the pitch did not help his bowlers, it did not help India's either....How did India hold his batsmen down to 359 ? If Bailey's argument is - the pitch assisted India's batsmen, it provided the same assistance to his batsmen. India was well on the way to 400, how come the Aussies did not get 400 ?

  • Lets_Bash_Indians on October 18, 2013, 15:16 GMT

    Where is 150 kmph attacks. they were kidnapped at last ODI. BCCI must Create a special force to create a green belt,,,to get them released ,Ohterwise australia have to give some ransom. (ransom = more ODI loses) # pEACE

  • on October 18, 2013, 15:15 GMT

    if you select 15 players in a side, you should be prompt to give chance to ones on the sideline and not keep players on the who show continuous inconsistency in their performance. Australia makes fast changes and big name on paper is no protection for a spot in 11. Even England more changes than India country known for inaptness for changes in anything. Ashwin has been inconsistent for quite a while and hasn't done anything with the bat either. Taking wicket here and there is not what is needed from a player. His fielding and running speed at best is mediocre. Ishant needs to get out for at least couple of games. Unadkat is more consisitant and has better line control and can also help with the bat and has high confidence. Sami still drops fair no. of loose balls.

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 18, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    @yezdi70: I hope you were watching when India won the Champions Trophy played in good old England. The conditions there were very good for bowlers. Indian batsmen applied themselves well and played magnificently. Why is it that every time India wins, we hear such lame comments ? If Australia had won that previous game, you people won't even be here writing such nonsense.

  • on October 18, 2013, 15:09 GMT

    where is praveen kumar,,,,?these two kumars can do wonder's in early over's..indian selector's should think about seperate attack in subcontinent and overseas..

  • CricketFan1980 on October 18, 2013, 15:07 GMT

    I think the bowlers are given the stick and rightly so. Why is it that a batsman is expected to be patient and score on a bowler's paradise but the bowler is not held to a similar standard? A bowler worth his salt must be able to get the batsmen out / restrict scoring irrespective of the pitch, same as how a batsman worth his salt must be able to score irrespective of the pitch. Nothing wrong with having roads. How did the Australian teams of the past win on these "roads" in India?

  • bvinayan on October 18, 2013, 15:05 GMT

    "I guess the boys were trying bouncers...' Hmmm, so that, according to Shikar Dhawan, was what Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar were doing at Jaipur. Well, well, well...

  • Lets_Bash_Indians on October 18, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    Get Ready for another plunder By Indians,,,

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    I am starting to see a pattern in the news articles and opinion pieces whenever India wins a match. When India win, its either a freak performance or the pitch or the whether or the US Govt shutdown , i mean something is always made to discredit the win. This time the focus is on the Indian bowlers giving away 359 runs, but nothing is being said about the even more pathetic display by the Aussie bowlers. I didn't see a flurry of negative articles on Ntni and Pollock when they gave away 434 runs and still won against Australia. cricinfo..pls publish

  • Charlie101 on October 18, 2013, 14:56 GMT

    People have short memories Ishant Sharma did win the CT ODI final for India with his quick 2 wickets when the situation looked hopeless and now receives a load of criticism for his bowling on a flat pitch.

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:44 GMT

    amit mishra and shami sould bring in place of ashwin and ishant sharma

  • yezdi70 on October 18, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Well the Indian establishments tactics are pretty obvious. The flat wickets neutralise the outright superiority of the Aussie bowlers and the batting edge that the indian batting has over the Aussie batting does the rest. I want to see what this Indian team can do in matches where there is help to the bowlers. Bailey was right when he scorned at Ravi Shastri when Shastri said that the pitch was a beauty....it was more like the pitch looking like a cemetry for the bowlers. Not good.

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on October 18, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Funny isn't it. India win a match and suddenly everyone whinges about wickets being graveyards for bowlers. That India won the Champions Trophy in alien conditions seems to have been so easily forgotten. Also, why can't we argue that actually it was the Indian batsmen who had mastered the short ball and once that was done the Australian bowlers had no answers?

  • nicks_28785 on October 18, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    And "In the end, you can only take six runs for a big hit, and that upper limit saved the Indian bowlers from not looking any worse than their Australian counterparts."

    if that is the case, what do you call the hits of Virat off Aussie bowlers? All those were worth 12 runs.... Please stop giving biased previews of the game.... Indians outperformed aussie on that particular day just like aussie outplayed Indians in 1st ODI...

    Preview is the one thing I look forward to before game, and giving such biased preview is spoiling the fun to come and read on cricinfo..

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    ICC surely should start to think about bringing classical cricket back.. Only if there is a competition between the bat and the ball cricket would survive.. As a real fan of classical cricket i beg ICC to think about whether the new rules that were brought to make the bat dominate the ball is right..

  • nicks_28785 on October 18, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    I haven't seen such a biased Preview for any matches for a long time... This Preview I have to say is very biased.. If Ishant and Vinay squeezed boat load of runs, it means they are worst..

    How is it that Aussie bowlers were better than Indian bowlers in 2nd ODI when they gave away more runs?? I am not contesting quality of Aussie bowlers here.. I know aussie bowlers are head and shoulders above indian bowlers in terms of quality. Nor am I in favor of Ishant and Vinay, because I think both of them are rubbish bowlers..

    But to say "Australia's bowlers were taken for runs off good deliveries, but the Indian bowlers, they were rightly punished for their indiscipline" is rubbish.. A delivery is only as good as u can hit them... If all good deliveries were hit by Indian batsman, does that mean Aussie batting can hit only bad balls and their batting is rubbish?

    It is simple: If aussies leaked more runs and got less wickets, means their bowling was not good in that 2nd ODI..

  • VKohlitheGreat on October 18, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    I am not a big fan of changing a winning side, but i would rather give Shami a shot with the ball on a greenish wicket than Vinay Kumar... Ishant will be handy overseas in Australia, so India needs to stick it out with him till we have a better replacement. Ashwins form is a bit of a concern as well, but hes been Dhoni's go to Man, along with Jadeja and they have surely delivered in the past. Only change I expect to see is the inclusion of Shami/Unadkat.

    Australia can surely do with another spinner, @okaboka, I echo the same words, get hughes to do the wicket keeping .

  • srinideva on October 18, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    It is really shame that some peoples call it "Beauty"...We must accept the point from the neutral cricket fans from other part of the world in this topic..there is no wrong in preparing the rank turner or green pitches for international match...But preparing this useless type of flat decks are shame to indian cricket overall..I hope every real indian cricket fan accept this issue..What is the point in scoring bulk of personal scores in F1 roads..If it continues then we may have world class batting talents who only capable of scoring in flat pitches.

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    I like Rishi Dhawan, Dhawal Kulkarni or Warrier....I am sure they will not be as bad as these two

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:25 GMT

    The entire article written not only in perspective of Australia but also degrading the Indian cricketers particularly. This is exactly same as previous one. Can't we see neutral opinion here? Last article emphasised on Indian batsmen weakness as they are jumping & hoping against Aus quicks. Today it suddenly changed into "Australia's bowlers were taken for runs off good deliveries, but the Indian bowlers, they were rightly punished for their indiscipline." What about Hobart, Wellington, Jo'berg, Sydney, Adelaide, RPS colombo, Karachi, Dhaka, Lords, Taunton, Blom'tain and many? Aren't they batting paradise? There wasn't any criticism on CT 2013 venues. When India performs, it becomes fashion to call mockery of each thing associated with IND. When IND loses, it attracts critics of inability to play against fast bowlers.

    I don't think IND needs certificate from any one. Whether some one like or not, the fact remained unchanged that IND winning on merits & skill.

  • on October 18, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    There have been many speculations as the game becoming more batsmen friendly and rules being modeified in batsmen favour,,, but i would like to reckon how many of the bowlers have adapted to the new rules.... may be none...

    There is no quality bowling left on flat tracks,, and if some help is provided for bowlers then it becomes hell for batsmen against some opponents....

    Not sure what to criticize...!!!

  • vswami on October 18, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    The pitches have not changed much but the scores have gone up because the ODI rules have been butchered. If you tweak the rules to kill the effectiveness of spinners and kill reverse swing by not allowing a ball to become soft and having virtually everyone within the circle for more than half the game, dont blame the pitches. Subcontinental conditions are never to give bowlers prolonged swing like England because of differences in conditions. That is compensated by spinners turning the ball, but if that is also neutralised, bowlers dont have anywhere to go. It used to be nearly an even contest in the end overs between bat and ball because good fast bowlers were able to extract reverse swing by then. It was probably the same reason why Dhawan nearly got a triple hundred in a ODI game in South Africa recently. Blame ICC for it, not the pitches.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:58 GMT

    bring in unadkat and amit mishra and leave out vinay and ashwin

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    having said all about ishant and vinay it would b unfair to draft some new faces on this placid pitches otherwise we might find a promising youngster going into oblivion very early in his career

  • ThatsJustCricket on October 18, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Can someone please drop Ishant and Vinay Kumar. How many failures will it take for the team management to grasp that these two are useless. Ashwin might do with a "resting" as well.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    These type of pitches are killing the bowlers. Its just all about batsmen and their records now. 15 years ago I remember bowlers like Chris Harris and Gavin Larsen being very effective ODI bowlers. Its just that picthes helped their style of bowling. There are no such medium pacers anymore and even if they existed they would be slaughtered. There is not even the concept of old ball reverse swinging anymore due to the stupid two new balls concept. Administators and their money minded nature have both slowly killed off medium pacers like Harris. Even a spinner has be really skilled these days to take wickets and contain. I have not been watching T 20 or much ODI over the last 2 or 3 yrs as i dont like these boring run feasts.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    india is playing unlimited matches in a small batting friendly ground and their batsmen is making record

  • belgaum on October 18, 2013, 13:45 GMT

    Its time(YAWN!) Ball beats Bat instead of the other way around. These Ranji Trophy type scores only make the "tamasha" type fans happy

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    I am hereby officially giving up on Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar. It is a very sad sight to see both being so useless. It is better to give Shami and Unadkat a chance and groom them. I wonder why the UP bowler Imtiaz Ahmed is not getting a chance and the Rajastan bowler Pankaj Singh never gets a chance - are these two some kind of head cases?? Not sticking to team rules and goals. Specially Pankaj. Good to try Ishwar Panday too. The point I am trying to make is any of my friends/relatives/neighbors is better than IS/VK.

  • Okakaboka on October 18, 2013, 13:37 GMT

    We may as well drop Haddin and play an extra batsman. His terra cotta gloves dropping that sitter cost us the last match. And...what has he done with the bat....nothing! Hughes can keep...... even though a beginner.

  • ScottStevo on October 18, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    Surely it can't get worse for bowlers than in the last match! Not that any of them did themselves any favours and generally seem to have forgotten how effective yorkers can be if delivered well. Dhawan certainly batted well but of the 3 Indian batsmen he was by far and away the lesser; and although he came 5 runs short in the end, he should never have made 30 had Haddin taken what was generally a pretty simple catch with gloves on. The third umpire helped his cause also on that tight call which could have gone either way. With India's batting line up, if the decks get flatter and nulify Aus bowlers, it's hard to see Aus winning, especially if the deck takes to some spin. In the Oz side, I'd prefer to see Ferguson in the batting line up rather than Maxwell. Although he did well in the last, it's the first time I've seen him do anything of worth and even then, it was a flat track. His regular 30 from 20 is no good if we have 15 overs still to bat and his bowling adds v little.

  • landl47 on October 18, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    The flatter the pitch, the better India's chances. Expect Mohali to be pretty darned flat.

    Unfortunately, as far as I am concerned anyway, the flatter the pitch, the more boring the game. Being a neutral, I want to see good cricket between the top two teams in this format. Turning the game into one where both sides score at over 7 an over and the bowlers can't take wickets doesn't make it interesting cricket. There has to be a duel between bat and ball, not a contest to see who can hit the ball furthest.

    I'd much rather see the more traditional subcontinental wickets where the ball turns sideways and the batsmen have to fight for runs than what we saw at Jaipur.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    In Indian team should be one change in place Ashwin there should be mishra

  • Haleos on October 18, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    The preview says : The grass on the outfield has been given a neat crop too, meaning R Ashwin and Glenn Maxwell will have more or less an equal chance of chasing down the ball. - Great so Atleast one weak link in Ashwin is taken care. Now who will do his bwoling?

  • spindizzy on October 18, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Frankly these pitches create a game of t-ball not cricket. Boring as hell and a lottery more than skill based. Yet more debasing of the game in this name of faux 'entertainment'.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    I guess its time for Jaydev Unadkat to get his chance instead of R Vinay Kumar.Its better to replace an inexperienced bowler with another inexperienced bowler.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    Would like to see India make 400 and Aussie chase it down

  • bishnoi.m29 on October 18, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    I think high time to gv Mishra a well deserved chance in playing XI and if Mr captain cool has decided to build a back up for Yuvi than why not for Ishant .. I think Unadkat deserves a chance..

  • TheBigBoodha on October 18, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Yes, India just doesn't have the bowlers to take advantage of any spice in the track, so they will either serve up airport-like strips or dust bowls. No country manipulates conditions like the Indians. Still, they can't hide the obvious weaknesses every game. Sooner or later they will get thrashed again, and their batsmen will be exposed to pace and bounce. This is not an Indian team that can dominate regularly, due to the obvious fact that getting smashed for 300+ every game has to have a negative effect on team morale, and the batsmen can't be expected to fire every game. It's a very risky lineup indeed.

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    I am so sure of the fact that Dhoni will keep the same XI . Both Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar will play this match and Australia if bats first will make a 300 + score. Really feel for Shami Ahmed and Jayadav Unadkat both in their limited opportunities have done well for India. If only they get a chance to play.

  • on October 18, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    india should bowl better than jeypore because wodson have good memory in chandigar if india bat first they should score 330 koly century in once again action

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  • on October 18, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    india should bowl better than jeypore because wodson have good memory in chandigar if india bat first they should score 330 koly century in once again action

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    I am so sure of the fact that Dhoni will keep the same XI . Both Ishant Sharma and Vinay Kumar will play this match and Australia if bats first will make a 300 + score. Really feel for Shami Ahmed and Jayadav Unadkat both in their limited opportunities have done well for India. If only they get a chance to play.

  • TheBigBoodha on October 18, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Yes, India just doesn't have the bowlers to take advantage of any spice in the track, so they will either serve up airport-like strips or dust bowls. No country manipulates conditions like the Indians. Still, they can't hide the obvious weaknesses every game. Sooner or later they will get thrashed again, and their batsmen will be exposed to pace and bounce. This is not an Indian team that can dominate regularly, due to the obvious fact that getting smashed for 300+ every game has to have a negative effect on team morale, and the batsmen can't be expected to fire every game. It's a very risky lineup indeed.

  • bishnoi.m29 on October 18, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    I think high time to gv Mishra a well deserved chance in playing XI and if Mr captain cool has decided to build a back up for Yuvi than why not for Ishant .. I think Unadkat deserves a chance..

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    Would like to see India make 400 and Aussie chase it down

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    I guess its time for Jaydev Unadkat to get his chance instead of R Vinay Kumar.Its better to replace an inexperienced bowler with another inexperienced bowler.

  • spindizzy on October 18, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Frankly these pitches create a game of t-ball not cricket. Boring as hell and a lottery more than skill based. Yet more debasing of the game in this name of faux 'entertainment'.

  • Haleos on October 18, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    The preview says : The grass on the outfield has been given a neat crop too, meaning R Ashwin and Glenn Maxwell will have more or less an equal chance of chasing down the ball. - Great so Atleast one weak link in Ashwin is taken care. Now who will do his bwoling?

  • on October 18, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    In Indian team should be one change in place Ashwin there should be mishra

  • landl47 on October 18, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    The flatter the pitch, the better India's chances. Expect Mohali to be pretty darned flat.

    Unfortunately, as far as I am concerned anyway, the flatter the pitch, the more boring the game. Being a neutral, I want to see good cricket between the top two teams in this format. Turning the game into one where both sides score at over 7 an over and the bowlers can't take wickets doesn't make it interesting cricket. There has to be a duel between bat and ball, not a contest to see who can hit the ball furthest.

    I'd much rather see the more traditional subcontinental wickets where the ball turns sideways and the batsmen have to fight for runs than what we saw at Jaipur.