India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad March 1, 2013

Australia consider a late change

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Australia appear set to make a late change to their line-up for the second Test in Hyderabad after earlier indications were that they would use the same XI that lost in Chennai. Cricket Australia did not reveal the nature of the change but the most likely scenario is that it would surround the makeup of the attack on a pitch that the captain Michael Clarke said would take turn from the first day but also hoped would offer more for the fast men than the Chennai surface.

The backup spinners in the squad, Xavier Doherty and Glenn Maxwell, could be considered, while a pace-for-pace swap involving Mitchell Johnson is another possibility. On Friday morning the indications were that Australia would name an unchanged line-up but Clarke said the selectors would not commit to an XI until after seeing the pitch again during the afternoon.*

"I'm hoping there will be a bit more pace in this wicket because it's a bit harder surface," Clarke said before the team's training session on Friday. "I don't think this wicket will be any tougher than Chennai. That was a really tough wicket, so I think we have seen the toughest of conditions.

"The wicket will certainly deteriorate as the Test goes on, so it's a positive for our fast bowlers that it will be a little bit up and down. But spin from day one will play a huge part in this Test. I'd be very surprised if India played any less spin, put it that way. Looking at it yesterday, it looked like a day three or day four pitch."

Two days out from the match, there were already a few cracks developing but the surface did not have the clay-like appearance of the Chennai pitch. The harder surface should give a little more encouragement to Mitchell Starc, Peter Siddle and James Pattinson, although Clarke said Starc and Siddle would still need to learn from the way that Pattinson used speed through the air as his major weapon rather than relying on assistance from the pitch.

"You have to hit the wicket really hard here," Clarke said. "If you just put the ball there you get nothing out of the conditions, even if the ball is reverse swinging. In Chennai it was really hard to be caught behind the wicket once the ball was 10-15 overs old, so we needed to use our speed through the air. I think Patto did that really well - he ran in hard, hit the wicket really hard and he got more out of the pitch, and more out of the ball than Sidds and Starcy. We've certainly spoken about that."

Siddle and Starc are not the only members of the attack who will need to rethink their strategy after struggling in Chennai. Nathan Lyon leaked far too many runs in the first Test and will need to find a way to keep things tighter if he plays in Hyderabad. Clarke said Lyon had shown some encouraging signs towards the end of the Chennai Test.

"On grounds in India it's very easy to go for a lot more runs because they're smaller and have fast outfields," Clarke said. "I thought Lyno showed his character in the second innings. I wish we had 150-200 runs on the board because then he would have had the opportunity to bowl in inconsistent spin, pace and bounce on a day-five wicket that I know he would have loved. He's been fine [since the Test]. He's working hard every day to try and get better.

"I think it's important for all of us as a team to stay positive and confident. We saw what happened with England over here. For a lot of the guys, it was their first Test match in India and those conditions are as tough as they are going to be for a fast-bowling unit and the batsmen. I think there are a lot of positives we've got to take out of the game, we've looked at areas we need to improve and a lot of that is about patience with both bat and ball."

Clarke said he was confident that Doherty, the other specialist spinner in the touring party, would offer plenty to the team if he was added to the XI. Doherty's first-class figures of 122 wickets at 44.56 do not make for encouraging reading, nor does the fact that he has managed only two wickets at 80 this Sheffield Shield season. But Clarke said it was unfair to extrapolate how Doherty might fare in India from how he bowls at home.

"He's bowling at Bellerive (Bellerive Oval, Hobart)," Clarke said. "I think that's a little bit different to Chennai or Chandigarh. I think if you have a look at fast bowling in Australia compared to spin bowling, because of our conditions in first-class cricket, fast bowling will always outweigh spin bowling. I'm surprised a spinner gets a bowl at Bellerive because the game is nearly over in two-and-a-half days. I don't think it would be fair on any of our spinners to compare their statistics in Australia to how important their impact could be in the sub-continent."

13.55GMT, March 1: The article was updated following Australia's practice session on Friday.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Ozcricketwriter on March 1, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    I said before, and I will repeat - our ideal line up is 4 pacers, and Peter Siddle should not be one of them. Sadly, with Bird gone, we only have 4 pace options. Our best spinner on tour is Xavier Doherty, by an absolute mile. In the batting stakes, I would drop Phil Hughes for Glenn Maxwell, who will also offer an extra bowling option. And I would utilise Mitchell Starc better. My XI: Cowan, Watson, Warner, Clarke, Maxwell, Henriques, Wade, Johnson, Starc, Pattinson, Doherty.

  • on March 1, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    I seriously hope the selectors make the right decision & play Dougherty here. If not then I have no idea why he was selected for the tour in the first place. (Just like Steve Smith who I feel has very little chance of playing a Test on this tour.) I'd drop Starc & Siddle & bring in Dougherty & Johnson. Of course you'll lose the option of having an economical slogger like Siddle but we need to bowl India out twice & that would look like a much more potent attack in these conditions. Johnson is a proven performer in India & provides the type of speed through the air that Pattinson showed can be effective in the last match. Henriques & Clarke can provide the other options. We've gotta pick a team to win this particular Test match instead of worrying about people's egos & the Ashes.

  • on March 1, 2013, 21:44 GMT

    To those who think that Doherty should come into the team or replace Lyon, here are some things to consider. Is Doherty capable of

    1. taking 8-wickets in a TM? Aust lost by 8-wickets so this is what is required of Australia to win this test. His best TM bowling is 2/41 & has an average of over 100. 2. capable of bowling 40 overs in an innings while fielding for one and a half days in 35oC+ heat?? This will be what may be required if he is selected!! It's not an ODI or T20, and even his recent ODI record indicates that he cannot bowl accurately or take wickets over 10-overs. 3. capable of holding up the tail? Lyon is a tenacious No.11 and has at least three highly notable 50+ 10th Wicket Partnerships. I think we all know Doherty's capabilities with the bat.

    Finally, do you think that Wade will be more capable of taking catches or producing stumpings with Doherty's bowling or Lyon's bowling??

    The Selectors took the wrong combinations on Tour and most of the revolves around M. Wade !!

  • Shaggy076 on March 2, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Captain Meanstar; "Lyon and Doherty are NOWHERE as good as Ashwin or Ojha or even Jadeja." CMON Jadeja played two tests, did you watch the series in Australia Lyon was clearly better than Ashwin in that series. Cant see why you think the gulf is so large between Lyon and Ashwin. You can be patriotic but show some common sense.

  • vigneshvinu on March 2, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    India need to drop ishant sharma now he is taken just 12 wickets in his last 7 test matches,he is unfit to play in indian team.Rahane is a middle order batsmen unless sachin retires he wont have a chance to play.he has failed as an opener.Dinda must be replace ishant sharma,Bcoz dinda can bowl well against the left handers,he his good fielder too.If they wanted to bring back ojha then i think they should drop jadeja.

    1.vijay 2. sehwag 3. pujara 4. sachin 5. kohli 6.dhoni 7. jadeja 8. ashwin 9. harbhajan 10. bhuvanesh 11. dinda

  • gogoldengreens on March 2, 2013, 2:56 GMT

    Selectors should have taken O"Keefe on the tour... was a mistake seeing that he has taken the same amount of shield wickets as all the spinners in Australian squad combined and at a lower average and better ecconomy rate... Not taking Steve O'Keefe over there was a mistake and now having Bird come home injured gives the selectors their way out by making O'Keefe his replacement... Besides O'Keefe can bat - should have gone instead of "The Big Show"

  • Cpt.Meanster on March 2, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    @landl47: Speaking of common sense, you lacked the same in your response to Nampally. Lyon and Doherty are NOWHERE as good as Ashwin or Ojha or even Jadeja. If you had compared the Indian spinners to Swann and Monty then I can agree with you to some extent. But the Aussie spinners are a joke ! Let them draft me into their team, I tweak the ball a lot better than those two. Besides, the Indian spinners are seasoned campaigners in Ranji Trophy games played on similar pitches which makes them a lot more experienced than Australia's spinners. I expect the Indian spinners to dominate once more in Hyderabad. Although, the Hyderabadi pitch could offer something to the quicks as well.

  • Boydy on March 2, 2013, 1:17 GMT

    InswingingToeCrusher you are a joke. also, most our test players didn't even play a single game in the Big Bash this season and a few didn't even play in the International T20's, if you're going to comment on our domestic scene than you should actually know what's going on.

    Anyway, despite Xavier Dohertys shortcomings i think that Nathan Lyon proved in the first test and the rest of his test career beforehand that he is absolutely hopeless, it should be Doherty and Steve Smith in for Lyon and Starc. Starc is one of the best bowlers out but these conditions just don't suit him.

  • Dashgar on March 2, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    @Joseph Langford, to judge Doherty on what he did in 2 test matches at Brisbane and Adelaide is beyond foolish. Even to look at his first class career where he didn't blossom till the second half of it and has played 50% of games at Hobart is also unfair. Look at a bowler like Ravi Jadeja, Doherty is a better bowler, proven from a near identical ODI record bowling in far worse conditions. Jadeja was highly effective, Doherty will be too. Also Doherty isn't a bad bat, he has 2 first class 50s and a List A 50. His FC, List A and T20 averages are 13, 17 and 17, exceptional for a guy who will likely bat 11. If Doherty plays then Australia will be a stronger, more balanced side. We don't need 4 seamers here, they will perform better with more responsibility anyway.

  • pr3m on March 2, 2013, 0:29 GMT

    "On grounds in India it's very easy to go for a lot more runs because they're smaller and have fast outfields," Clarke said.

    It's also cos Indians play spin really well.

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 1, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    I said before, and I will repeat - our ideal line up is 4 pacers, and Peter Siddle should not be one of them. Sadly, with Bird gone, we only have 4 pace options. Our best spinner on tour is Xavier Doherty, by an absolute mile. In the batting stakes, I would drop Phil Hughes for Glenn Maxwell, who will also offer an extra bowling option. And I would utilise Mitchell Starc better. My XI: Cowan, Watson, Warner, Clarke, Maxwell, Henriques, Wade, Johnson, Starc, Pattinson, Doherty.

  • on March 1, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    I seriously hope the selectors make the right decision & play Dougherty here. If not then I have no idea why he was selected for the tour in the first place. (Just like Steve Smith who I feel has very little chance of playing a Test on this tour.) I'd drop Starc & Siddle & bring in Dougherty & Johnson. Of course you'll lose the option of having an economical slogger like Siddle but we need to bowl India out twice & that would look like a much more potent attack in these conditions. Johnson is a proven performer in India & provides the type of speed through the air that Pattinson showed can be effective in the last match. Henriques & Clarke can provide the other options. We've gotta pick a team to win this particular Test match instead of worrying about people's egos & the Ashes.

  • on March 1, 2013, 21:44 GMT

    To those who think that Doherty should come into the team or replace Lyon, here are some things to consider. Is Doherty capable of

    1. taking 8-wickets in a TM? Aust lost by 8-wickets so this is what is required of Australia to win this test. His best TM bowling is 2/41 & has an average of over 100. 2. capable of bowling 40 overs in an innings while fielding for one and a half days in 35oC+ heat?? This will be what may be required if he is selected!! It's not an ODI or T20, and even his recent ODI record indicates that he cannot bowl accurately or take wickets over 10-overs. 3. capable of holding up the tail? Lyon is a tenacious No.11 and has at least three highly notable 50+ 10th Wicket Partnerships. I think we all know Doherty's capabilities with the bat.

    Finally, do you think that Wade will be more capable of taking catches or producing stumpings with Doherty's bowling or Lyon's bowling??

    The Selectors took the wrong combinations on Tour and most of the revolves around M. Wade !!

  • Shaggy076 on March 2, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Captain Meanstar; "Lyon and Doherty are NOWHERE as good as Ashwin or Ojha or even Jadeja." CMON Jadeja played two tests, did you watch the series in Australia Lyon was clearly better than Ashwin in that series. Cant see why you think the gulf is so large between Lyon and Ashwin. You can be patriotic but show some common sense.

  • vigneshvinu on March 2, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    India need to drop ishant sharma now he is taken just 12 wickets in his last 7 test matches,he is unfit to play in indian team.Rahane is a middle order batsmen unless sachin retires he wont have a chance to play.he has failed as an opener.Dinda must be replace ishant sharma,Bcoz dinda can bowl well against the left handers,he his good fielder too.If they wanted to bring back ojha then i think they should drop jadeja.

    1.vijay 2. sehwag 3. pujara 4. sachin 5. kohli 6.dhoni 7. jadeja 8. ashwin 9. harbhajan 10. bhuvanesh 11. dinda

  • gogoldengreens on March 2, 2013, 2:56 GMT

    Selectors should have taken O"Keefe on the tour... was a mistake seeing that he has taken the same amount of shield wickets as all the spinners in Australian squad combined and at a lower average and better ecconomy rate... Not taking Steve O'Keefe over there was a mistake and now having Bird come home injured gives the selectors their way out by making O'Keefe his replacement... Besides O'Keefe can bat - should have gone instead of "The Big Show"

  • Cpt.Meanster on March 2, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    @landl47: Speaking of common sense, you lacked the same in your response to Nampally. Lyon and Doherty are NOWHERE as good as Ashwin or Ojha or even Jadeja. If you had compared the Indian spinners to Swann and Monty then I can agree with you to some extent. But the Aussie spinners are a joke ! Let them draft me into their team, I tweak the ball a lot better than those two. Besides, the Indian spinners are seasoned campaigners in Ranji Trophy games played on similar pitches which makes them a lot more experienced than Australia's spinners. I expect the Indian spinners to dominate once more in Hyderabad. Although, the Hyderabadi pitch could offer something to the quicks as well.

  • Boydy on March 2, 2013, 1:17 GMT

    InswingingToeCrusher you are a joke. also, most our test players didn't even play a single game in the Big Bash this season and a few didn't even play in the International T20's, if you're going to comment on our domestic scene than you should actually know what's going on.

    Anyway, despite Xavier Dohertys shortcomings i think that Nathan Lyon proved in the first test and the rest of his test career beforehand that he is absolutely hopeless, it should be Doherty and Steve Smith in for Lyon and Starc. Starc is one of the best bowlers out but these conditions just don't suit him.

  • Dashgar on March 2, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    @Joseph Langford, to judge Doherty on what he did in 2 test matches at Brisbane and Adelaide is beyond foolish. Even to look at his first class career where he didn't blossom till the second half of it and has played 50% of games at Hobart is also unfair. Look at a bowler like Ravi Jadeja, Doherty is a better bowler, proven from a near identical ODI record bowling in far worse conditions. Jadeja was highly effective, Doherty will be too. Also Doherty isn't a bad bat, he has 2 first class 50s and a List A 50. His FC, List A and T20 averages are 13, 17 and 17, exceptional for a guy who will likely bat 11. If Doherty plays then Australia will be a stronger, more balanced side. We don't need 4 seamers here, they will perform better with more responsibility anyway.

  • pr3m on March 2, 2013, 0:29 GMT

    "On grounds in India it's very easy to go for a lot more runs because they're smaller and have fast outfields," Clarke said.

    It's also cos Indians play spin really well.

  • Chris_P on March 2, 2013, 0:09 GMT

    @Meety. I read the same article and was gobsmacked! @Dravid_Gravitas. I think you are being too kind to the Aussies. Their bowlers have to step up considerably & the batting is still very much in development stage, too much so for this tour. @Nampally Replace a wicketkeeper with a bowler? Hmm, have you got ANY idea about cricket? @landl47, Pretty good summation, as I have said, we were always going to be on the back foot in India with these conditions. As you know, I am a NSW supporter & watch many of their games. The SCG is close to the spinnig wickets than all the other grounds & Smith, believe it or not, has really worked on his technique, batting with a much tighter control, using his feet to spinners. The images of his heaves to the onside with that ugly front foot swat is very much a rarely seen thing now, plus he has fc batting form. Definitely worth consideration. SOK would have made a HUGE difference to the balance.

  • johntycodes on March 1, 2013, 23:59 GMT

    If lyon is still playing in the team then australia have no hope.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on March 1, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    Part4: Anybody who has the skill to control the pace of his innings as per the match situation, at least cannot be termed as one-dimensional. Look ugly, ungainly, get hit on the fingers, but hang-in there and score two fifties (as in Jamaica circa 2006) or get beaten, toil, sweat and conquer the demons to score an ugly looking century on a mine-field in Jamaica 2011 or look elegant, free flowing and score a superlative century as in Ahmedabad 2009 against Srilanka - Such a versatile player is anything but one-dimensional. Dravid has the skill and control to carry on at different levels and dimensions. He is the best man to do the defensive job for us. He has got the technique and he indeed has a role to play. Just because Statchin doesn't have that skill to carry on at different levels and dimensions, doesn't mean that Dravid is one-dimensional. In fact, it's the other way around. Statchin is one-dimensional and invariably fails when he buckles down. (TBC)

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on March 1, 2013, 23:52 GMT

    Part3: Next, we were told that Dravid is a dozen-a-dime player. Somebody who toils and scores 233 and 72 notout, at least cannot be dismissed as a dozen-a-dime player. He should at least be given some respect. We were told that we can find ordinary batsmen like Dravid at every corner of the streets in India. Somebody who scores 270 against our arch-rivals and scripts a series win, at least cannot be dismissively described as an ordinary player who can be found at every corner of the streets in India. He should at least be given some respect. We were told that he is a one-dimensional player. Somebody who reads the situation, buckles down and opens up at the opportune moment, at least cannot be a one-dimensional player. He has the skills to buckle down and open-up as per the situation. Anybody who observes Dravid's innings knows that his innings are constructed methodically in phases, as per the match situation. (TBC)

  • on March 1, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    Why wasnt hauritz picked for this tour?

  • cricketfanaust on March 1, 2013, 23:45 GMT

    @InswingingToeCrusher: you've really done your research - fully informed?? Warner played 1-2 games in BBL, Cowan played NIL games in BBL, Hughes played 1 game in BBL, Watson played 1 game in BBL, Clarke played NIL games in BBL, Wade played 1-2 games in BBL. Technique is not related to Big bash. "Australia can only win on doctored wickets" - FYI Flat wickets aren't doctored typically - it's wickets that go to extremes either way that have some "curator" or outside input. Aust Batting is poor in Indian conditions but reasons aren't related to your comments. Looks like you've faced one to many toe crushers!

  • Shaggy076 on March 1, 2013, 23:31 GMT

    Our atting line-up gets blasted, yes Cowan, Watson and Hughes are all averaging under 40. Warner around 40. But we have a wicket keeper 40 all our bowlers average around 20 with the bat. THe bowling Pattinson (new in career but averaging 21, Siddle at 28, Starc, Johnson, Bird, Hilfenhaus and Cummins all have great records. Lyons record is ok. We are continuously underestimated and it maybe better to wait after the game to sprout your Aussies is weak theory. We are unknown in these conditions but one thing I know is we will put up one hell of a fight.

  • landl47 on March 1, 2013, 21:38 GMT

    Talking of irrational, Nampally, you do realise that your suggested XI leaves Australia without a wicketkeeper, don't you? What are you thinking- that Hughes, who has kept a couple of times in his life, can keep to spinners in Indian conditions? Some common sense would be appreciated.

    If Clarke is going to bring up what England did (and it's not a bad idea, since England were the first side to win a test series in India since 2004) then he should be aware that England lost the first test by exactly the same margin and made a key change for the subsequent tests. If Aus goes in with the same line-up, they are asking for the same result. Bringing in Doherty is a must and bringing in Johnson would also be a good idea. If the wicket helps seamers, Patto, Johnson and Henriques will benefit. If it takes turn, Aus will have two spinners to work in tandem. They might not be the best spinners in the world, but then neither are India's and they got all 20 wickets in Chennai.

  • bijumonssss on March 1, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    ofcourse maxwell is faar better than hughes. may be they will come hard with doherty . swann and panesar effect. but surely this is team indias more confident side. sure india have more chance to gain a series. come on team INDIA!!!!!!

  • InswingingToeCrusher on March 1, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    I think australia can win only on doctored flat wickets. Their batsmen have lost technique due to too much 20 20 in Big Bash.

  • vrkp on March 1, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    My Ind XI for tomorrow:

    Vijay, Viru, Pujara, SRT, Kohli, MSD, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvaneshwar, Bhaji/Dinda, Ohja,

    Dinda at least gives a reverse swing option and better athlete than Ishant. Going for all spin option will definitely backfire esp. if with the likes of Bhaji.

  • techie77 on March 1, 2013, 20:47 GMT

    @Ravi Darira ....your kidding right when you said that Dhoni has proved his critics wrong ..hope u check back on our test record for the last 3 series ....he has just lost all his objectivity when it comes to picking the side and planning...the moment a CSK team mate is added he automatically gets selected into the 11. (e.g Vijay, Jadeja) and needs to be given time to develop. I guess Rahane needs to find a contract with CSK before he gets break with Indian team.Team selection has just become a joke under Dhoni.

  • Raki99 on March 1, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    The australian top four are just not good enough for the indian conditions. The last time australia won in india they had mcgrath, gillispe,haydo, ponting, langer warne, gilchrist now compare that to this team, their bowling is just not comparable to that unit in indian condition and their batting is just waste right now if ball spins. Also if we rememeber they only won that series becasue the rain washed out the final day in chennai with india needing 200 some odd runs to win. If you think hydrerabad pitch will assist fast bowlers. Lets wait and watch i am hoping sehwag to score a big one....

  • Nampally on March 1, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    I think Clarke should seriously consider 2 changes- Replace Starc with Johnson & Wade with Doherty. Johnson has played in Hyderbad before in the IPL. So he is familiar with the conditions. He will also guide Patterson & Siddle. Johnson is also a good batsman. A second spinner must be included & Doherty appears to be at least an accurate bowler. He will bowl like Jadeja did. Lyon is an under estimated off spinner. He is much better than Harbhajan. This gives a balanced look to the Aussie XI. If Clarke & Watson are fit to bowl, it will only add to their bowling. Playing an unchanged Team makes Clarke look just as irrational in Team selection as MS Dhoni! Lessons learnt must be implemented via Corrective Actions.

  • Venkat_Gowrishankar on March 1, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    @rocket_rocket: Hyderabad is a brand new venue. 2nd or 3rd Test at the venue, and that too the first one in spring ( the previous one's were in cooler months ). This so called thing about Pace in hyderabad might be true, but with sweltering heat of 35 C , it is surely another chennai in a Sheep's Clothing. I hope Clarke undertands this. I expect the crowds to be good in Hyderabad. You need a certain heritage for it, and only traditional cities like Chennai, Mumbai, bangalore can provide it, I am pretty sure Hyderabad will live to it. Delhi, Mohali, Kolkata, Nagpur, Kanpur - absolute killers for test cricket.

  • on March 1, 2013, 17:33 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - What excuses did Dhoni give? Also,he is the captain and has the right to chose his team. Not sure if you saw the first test, he won the match on his own... i think your comment was biased due to a personal dislike for a man who has always taken responsibility for his actions and proved his critics wrong every time.

  • Robofk on March 1, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    Folks stop discussing about Aussies team INDIA will win this match easily if they dont do any stupid things. This Aussies team can't win test matches in Inidia,England and SA they need to improve. They have to understand the importance of quality spin bowlers in domestic cricket that will help there batsmen also. 2004 Aussies won the series with fast bowlers that is there strength now they dont have quality bowlers or batsmen. So stop discuss about the team they can select they came with at least 5(DW,SW,XD,GM,SS) players that are not suitable for TEST matches. NOWAY this Aussies team can win a TEST match in INDIA. 3-0 series win for INDIA.....

  • crikkfan on March 1, 2013, 16:23 GMT

    Jayzuz what on earth are you rambling? home teams prepare pitches to suit their conditions is a known fact. we never get to know details usually of *how* they do it - just because we have some modicum of information that the pitch was partially watered it only shows the transparency of the curator rather than any doctoring as you fans are whinging about. we dont need to know the methods of the curator - the teams should be willing to play in alien conditions and adapt period. someone mentioned about raffa the clay court specialist adapting to hard courts of melbourne - same way. lets enjoy the rest of the series for the game of cricket. can aus bounce back like eng? lets wait and see how that pans out. cheerz.

  • rocket_rocket on March 1, 2013, 16:15 GMT

    @satish_xi: u need not be a curator to guess how the pitch pans out....even if curator tries 12 months of his life make WACA a rank turner he cannot...its the nature of the pitch...btw have you been following ranji...hyderabad is pretty good for pacers

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on March 1, 2013, 16:04 GMT

    The Aussie pacers should have learnt their lessons by now and should have practiced yorkers more than any other facet of their bowling. Well, if they didn't do it, too bad for them. Go ask Waqar and Wasim how they simply took the sub-continental wickets out of the equation. Indian pacers simply don't have that pace or skill. I strongly feel Aussie pacers are not only quicker but also more skillful than their Indian counterparts.

    Next, they should strongly think about beefing their batting aka protecting their team from defeat by letting in a skillful player or two against spin.

    Please play 2 specialist spinners. This is India. You don't have to be too skillful a spinner to succeed. The pitches are spin-friendly.

    If you do the above three, I don't see how Aussies will lose this match. They may even win. Good luck to both the teams. I want Aussies to win so that our Dhoni can't hide behind excuses. He is selecting team as he wants. So, he better win than show excuses.

  • Playfair on March 1, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    I would play Maxwell instead of Hughes. It would probably give Australia bowling more balance in terms of Maxwells spin

  • satish_XI on March 1, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    @rocket_rocket : are u a curator ? no, right ?!!

  • rocket_rocket on March 1, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    i am from hyderabad and trust me this wicket will have pace atleast till day 1.. it will not turn square from ball 1 as it did in chennai but it will be a typical indian wicket ...deteriorates as the test progresses...likes of steyn,t.boult(NZ) have done well here...ishanth has good memories to remember ....in RANJI gony,pandey have done well so this will pitch will assist pacers a fair bit....as far as india is concerned bhajji out ojha in.....

  • gsingh7 on March 1, 2013, 13:37 GMT

    anderson was unplayable at times with those lovely reverse swing and finn too was too good for our batsman...the fact is we have too poor test side, still we winning cause aus are no longer a good test side..still im quite happy with their performance in chennai -

  • Beertjie on March 1, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    What bothers me about an unchanged team is whether Starc and Patto may break down. With Bird gone we are going to need 3 good quicks in the 3rd test and MJ is a certainty there. I wonder about how Siddle will go on this tour - his third. Interesting ideas @Okakaboka on (March 1, 2013, 9:51 GMT). If Doherty doesn't play why did they bring him?

  • Harlequin. on March 1, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    one letter and one word: O' Keefe.

  • Jayzuz on March 1, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    @din7, "Australia is no longer a good test side". Given that they have the second best test record of all teams over the last 2 years, what does that say about the other teams? They have won 11, lost 3 of their last 20 tests. I think that is good enough to be classified as "good". The micro-management of the pitch, selectively manipulating different sections to favour the home team - clearly admitted by the curator in the Chenai test - obviously makes India look far better than they are, and makes Australia look worse than they are. In even conditions Australia would beat this Indian team 80% of the time. India simply don't have the bowlers to get 20 wickets on a normal track - and by normal I don't mean a green top, I just mean a bog-standard test wicket with a little bit in it for everyone. And then we've seen the genuine weakness of the batsmen to pace bowling again and again, even on fairly friendly surfaces. Hell, even on the flattest track in history - the last test

  • SherjilIslam on March 1, 2013, 13:05 GMT

    Where is your "big show" ???? I would like to see him play in one of the tests and see how he fares.At-least Australia can scare India by announcing his name in playing Xi well in advance and then Clarke comes up and says big thing about him.

  • Micky.Panda on March 1, 2013, 13:01 GMT

    Yes Khawaja in for Cowan and a spinner in in place of Starc. That is the least change at all viable. I don't know who is Australia's best possible spinner for these conditions. Hughes needs to show he can bat under these conditions too.

  • S4CHIN_IS_GOD on March 1, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    Pace on the pitch. What for? If I remember, did Aussie gave indians any dusty and biting spin pitches. Learn the trade. This is why home sides win easy. This is why winning away is difficult. Skills of excellent players are shown. This is why Cook will be great. Without him leading from front, England would have been out and lost from Day 1. Hail Cook

  • hycIass on March 1, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    @Maroon5 i would like to see Khawaja in too but perhaps for Cowan rather then Hughes. And Mark as for your comment on why our bowlers are injured here is a summary why: Cummins - very young, is it a case of his body still developing? Pattinson - don't know enough about his recent injuries, Siddle - not currently injured, but infamously missed the Perth test. What was the real story? What was wrong, and could better planning have prevented it? Johnson - only recent injury I remember was the nail in toe, which had been there since he was a kid Starc - hasn't been injured for a while, when was his last one? He's just finishing developing, he's 22-23 isn't he? But note he's almost as tall as Bruce Reid but not built like him. Harris - chronic kneee condition which is managed as well as it can be Just my thoughts.

  • din7 on March 1, 2013, 12:25 GMT

    @damo_s eng seamers struggled? ur forgettin anderson and finn...especially anderson was unplayable at times with those lovely reverse swing and finn too was too good for our batsman...the fact is we have too poor test side, still we winning cause aus are no longer a good test side..still im quite happy with their performance in chennai..they gave india 50 runs target... which is what india managed aginst eng despite havin 3 spinners..39 and 57. considerin that aussies played really well depite of inexperienced and poor battin line up, no need for 2 spinners they dont have any swan or monty..just carry on with the current team which what the best they have! come on clarke u can do it!

  • greenydude on March 1, 2013, 12:24 GMT

    Hoping for a pacy wicket ?? in your dreams clarke .. you dont know indians strategy .. it wouldnt be a surprise if they play only spin bowlers in the second test.. flat curry pitches thats what you wll get in india :)

  • cricexpt on March 1, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    It is nothing but day dreaming by Clarke. He not only lost the first test he seems to have lost his mind also. It is same like India expecting spin on pacier australian pitches.

  • on March 1, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    The poor selectors must be worn out & need to be rotated. Forget pace - we need 2 spinners as a minimum. Where is Brad Hoggy when we need him???

  • 30-30-150 on March 1, 2013, 11:57 GMT

    Khawaja in for Hughes, and Doherty in for Lyon would be my recommendations. Wonder what happened to promising batsmen like Forrest and Ferguson.

  • phunny_game on March 1, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    I think Clarke must have faced Doherty in the nets and seen him bowl lately... He would know what he is capable of. So any decision taken by him tomorrow will be a wise one... He is a smart captain after all. I have a feeling that Phil Hughes and Watson will do well in this match... And Murali vijay might also make a decent contribution as well... Just a prediction!!!

  • reddawn1975 on March 1, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    Well i think the Australian selectors better get there heads on and play Mitch Johnson he was bowling very well and quite aggressive in Australia and i think he will bowl very well in India i love Peter Siddle but his lack of pace and variation in the last couple of test have been interesting.Play Johnson while he i sin good form he needs the confidence.................and yeah drop lyon and Doherty in

  • aslam ahmed on March 1, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    yeah will be watching ind vs aus tomorrow at RGICS Uppal

  • SirViv1973 on March 1, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    Clarke & the Aus Management sound like they are clutching at straws here. since nov there have been 5 tests played in Ind 4 out of the 5 varied between big tuners & massive turners, the other (Nagpur) offered virtually no assistance for any of the bowlers. If Aus think they are suddenly going to be provided with a surface which gives significant assistance to their quicks then they are dreaming. If there is anything more in this surface for them then it will be marginal. If the same XI plays again then I would think ind will be delighted. I would at least try Doherty & Johnson instead of Siddle & Starc to give the Ind batsman something else to think about. Oz also need to be cautious regarding Starc. I'm sure he would be considered at this point as a main asset when it comes to the ashes & another toothless performance could really damage his confidence.

  • VivGilchrist on March 1, 2013, 11:41 GMT

    We wouldn't be having this conversation if OKeefe was over there instead of Doherty....

  • thebatsmansHoldingthebowlersWilley on March 1, 2013, 11:37 GMT

    Heavy defeat for the Aussies coming up. They really could get walloped in these next three matches. Pattinson bowled a few overs in the first test so he'll need a zimmer frame by the end of the second test - the guy is made of glass. Hughes, Cowan, Wade are all clueless against spin and will fail again.

  • Simoc on March 1, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Well if they lose again they will go down in history as a weak, inept, poorly managed team unable to adjust to foreign conditions. At present only Watson, Clarke and Pattinson look test standard, while Siddle is your average 12th man. Of course Henriques had an exceptional first test on debut but can he back it up.

  • Damo_s on March 1, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    Englands seamers found it tough in India recently and are better than the Australian seamers. one would have thought Oz selectors would have taken note rather than being hopelessly arrogant i.e. believing that their seamers are good enough to get the job done. This is the mistake England made and success only came when Monty was selected to partner Swann. MC needs to stop dreaming for a pitch that will suit the seamers because it will never happen.

  • timohyj on March 1, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    Einstein described insanity as doing the same thing and expecting different results. Sounds like what the Aussies are doing.

  • handyandy on March 1, 2013, 11:29 GMT

    If Clarke seriously believes that the pitch will be pacier then he should bring Johnson into the side. Starc and Siddle did little in the first match.

  • on March 1, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    oh dear and i thought michael clarke was a good captain Aus need to drop siddle and starc for johnson and doherty and send Fawad Ahmed over as Bird's replacement and play him in the next test too I'd also get Wade to open and drop cowan down the order

  • on March 1, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    In My point of view Australia need a David hussy in his middle order because he played very well against spin.if it is not possible then i think Clarke will be need to change his bating order he need to play at number 3 and Philips hugs need to play number 4 because Clarke has much experience as compare to huge he is a new person in team and he has a first tour of India. In bowling i think this is a better combination of Australia. just need to promote Johnson as sidle because sidle is not good than Johnson.

  • Meety on March 1, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    @Jayzuz on (March 1, 2013, 10:24 GMT) - I read up on the recent articles about SO'K's omission from the tour. "O'Keefe has taken 17 wickets in the Sheffield Shield this summer, the same number as Lyon, Steve Smith, Glenn Maxwell and Xavier Doherty - the four spinners in India - combined. Collectively, Lyon, Smith, Maxwell and Doherty's 17 Shield wickets have come at a costly 53.47. Their economy rate is 3.47 runs per over. O'Keefe's equivalent haul came at 26.76. His economy rate is 2.20" - that is from the Herald Sun. Arthurs in the Telegraph is quoted as saying "We felt Xavier had bowled really well in the ODIs and Xavier we felt was probably the next one in line when Michael Beer (West Australian spinner) got injured." He also says - "I think we covered all bases in selection. We've looked at all possible bases for a team and we've got all the players here who we think could make a massive difference." Seems SO'K wasn't really even considered!

  • Andrew202 on March 1, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    How Siddle and Starc are favoured in front of Johnson, a proven experienced performer in Indian conditions, amazes me. This is un-Australian but if they select the same XI as the last test then I hope they lose. The selectors need to be taught a lesson. Hopefully it will hit home.

  • jmoses on March 1, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    In the beginning Hyderabad wicket used to offer more bounce compared to other wickets in the country, but thanks to the negative tactics by Dhoni and co., it turned into a low bouncy pitch. The true nature of the wicket should never be lost. It would have been interesting if Bangalore was one of the venues for this series as it would have exposed the Indian batsmen weakness against pace and bounce. They would have been hopping all over the crease.

  • ribhavjain on March 1, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    India should take out bhuvi put ojha. Australia should take out phillip put maxwell, take out starc put in doherty and take out lyon put johnson.

  • BradmanBestEver on March 1, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Aussies should play: Ponsford, Hayden, Bradman, Harvey, G. Chappell, Border, Miller, Gilchrist, Warne, Lillee, Grimmett, 12th Spofforth

  • SillyMidPavilion on March 1, 2013, 10:51 GMT

    Mitchell Starc out, Xavier Doherty in. Simple as that.

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Pls use your brain not your strength clarke... U will lose again with this team i can bet on this... Drop starc n get in doherty otherwise aussies cant beat indian with u effective lyon...

  • Nutcutlet on March 1, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    Hyderabad hasn't been pace-friendly before, so why should MC think that this time will be any different? It's not as if the curator is going to hand Oz a pitch that suits their attack & nullifies India's, is it? I have to wonder what Doherty is doing on tour! Surely the thinking when selecting a touring side is with the scenario in mind that any member of the touring party is of sufficient calibre to take his place in the team when the occasion demands. And I suppose I have to say what I've said so many times before: if you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got. (Of course, it could be that this is all a false trail & really Doherty is rearing to go with the full confidence of the Oz camp as he's been developing a mystery ball in all the hours he's been net bowling! If he's not required on tour, I hope he's imbibing the culture, learning a bit of the language or studying the wildlife -- I'd hate to think he was wasting his time!)

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    I think Dhoni may well have gotten 400 if Maxwell and/or Doherty played. I think he would've smashed them out of the park. I agree with using the same line up

  • cricketpurist on March 1, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    Clarke is not the one who belives in "Once bitten twice shy" theory. Yes India is still weak for short pitch deliveries and anyone who can bowl @ 140+ pace and drop a few yorkers a genuine out side the offstump line teasing the batsman on any surface!! who knows. I love the idea of doing a reversal

  • Auscricketfan on March 1, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    I think that Doherty should be given a chance to play given the success left arm spin as had against Indian batsman (Vettori,Pansear,Price) Lyon i think is very lucky to hold his spot considering Nathan Haurtiz got dropped in 2010 for performances which werent as bad as the 1s Lyon has been producing lately ( Haurtiz Got dropped 2 tests after coming back from injury aswell, worst selection mistake along with dropping Katich in recent times) so i think we should play doherty and if out performs Lyon then he puts himself in the frame for Ashes selction.. My team would be 1)Warner 2)Cowan (if he doesnt score big this test he is in trouble 3)Hughes 4)Watson 5)Clarke 6)Henriques 7)Wade 8)Siddle 9)Pattinson 10)Doherty 11)Lyon

  • Webba84 on March 1, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    @Timmuh, exactly my point. I wouldn't dare to say what the right selection for the next test is, although I do wish the Aussie spinner situation wasn't so dire but it did occur to me that the players most likely to perform in the next Indian Test are probably the players who benefitted from playing in the last one.

  • cricket-freak on March 1, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    Johnson should not be ignored by the selectors for the second match..don`t know why he is not being preferred ahead of Siddle or Pattinson..He`s being woking so hard with his bowling action and has even proved in the recent matches that he still has the Pace magic in him..Being ignored for the selection would certainly bring his morale down..which has unfortunatly happened many times in the past..Its sad to see a quality player being treated like this.

  • Abbas67 on March 1, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    Aussie should play - Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Maxwell, Wade, Henriques, Doherty, Johnson, Pattinson, Lyon ... India should play - Rahane, Dhavan. Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Kumar, Ishant, Ojha ...

  • Jayzuz on March 1, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    Clearly O'Keefe should be on tour. How can u pick a bowler with a 44 average against one with a 27 average? An inexplicable mystery, ESP since O'Keefe also averages 30 with the bat. Incompetence by selectors on a mind boggling scale.

  • Mitty2 on March 1, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Lyon needs support, pure and simple. If he had Doherty at the other end, with his accurate jadeja-like darts, lyon would've been able to settle much better and would've been given the freedom to flight the bowl more often. Swann's match figures in the first test were unflattering as well, going for 6-190 odd (guessing), and swann is much more experienced than Nathan, so lyon's double century shouldn't have been unexpected.

    Even so, he bowled some very good spells and if it weren't for dhoni, (who would've done that to anyone), Lyon would've had much more respectable figures. Doherty, like panesar is a quickish left armer, and like panesar; wasn't selected for the first test. Could the connection be any more obvious? Was england's sudden performance spike a coincidence? Was dropping a seamer and adding a spinner irrelevant to their consecutive wins?

    I just can't understand how we haven't gone with two spinners (for the first test) when the precedent and example has already been made.

  • guptahitesh4u on March 1, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    It will be interesting to see how Clarke utilizes Pattinson if the squad remains unchanged. I agree with the opinion that Clarke should bat up in the order.. probably at no.3?? anyways, lets hope for a thrilling match! Best of luck to both the teams

  • bipulkumar on March 1, 2013, 10:16 GMT

    Aussie spinners' story is same as Indian seamers' story. Indians keep experimenting with seamers to figure out any long term solution and keep finding the worse ones, losing the better, more experienced ones.

  • Thefakebook on March 1, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    I think Xavier should be included regardless, Starc is good bowler but he'll get more chances in the future.Doherty can bowl 30-40 overs with ease at 3.5 rpo or less(in spinning condition of course )and will trouble right handed indians batters.Patto will likely break down by the 3rd or 4th day so you need a bowler like him since Lyon will make another ton or a double ton. But if same XI play then batsmen better score 500+ or its 2-0 folks!

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Clark missing a trick here.Traditionally,Indian batsmen are not comfortable with left arm bowlers.Plus, some left arm spinners tasted success in India (Vettori , Ray price??).They should play Xavier Doherty to think of taking 20 wickets

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Doherty could be a decent bet for the Aussies to put up a challenge on Indian wickets, even Lyon's FC average is in axcess of 40, so no point in bringing up Doherty's average here. Although one's got to admit that he doesn't really have that class to trouble Indian batsmen, nor does he provide that much value in tests as he does in the ODIs.

  • Craggydev on March 1, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Aus must bring in Maxwell/doherty in place of a pacer if they are to have any chance of levelling the series...

  • Timmuh on March 1, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    @Webaa84, an unchanged line-up would a bold choice, even a "courageous" one (in the manner of Sir Humphrey Appleby's use of the word). It is also the right one, given that any Australian spinner would get spanked by Indian batsmen and Bird has gone home. Its a tough call, given there is likely to be nothing in it for the quicks - but the spin options are just so bad they can not be used.

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Australia should opt for second spinner and clark should bat at number 3 to get positive results against India for 2nd test.

  • Okakaboka on March 1, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    Actually, I would play Doherty instead of Lyon and replace Starc with Maxwell. Maxwell and Doherty could do well in combination. Maxwell does play spin quite well and could well get under the opposition skins a bit. I agree it is a risk, however, to beat India on these doctored pitches, risks have to be taken. Also, Maxwell has started spinning the ball more than any of our other spinners.

  • Samdanh on March 1, 2013, 9:47 GMT

    Can't believe this. They would probably bring in Doherty and Maxwell surprising India at the last minute

  • Meety on March 1, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Got a gut feeling MJ in for Starc, but I am really nervous about Patto playing 2 matches in a row, maybe MJ in for Patto (as dumb as that sounds).

  • on March 1, 2013, 9:38 GMT

    in my point of view Australia need a David hussy because he played very well against sniper and he also doing spin bowling very well.On the other hand i think Michel Clarke need to play at top like number 3 and Philips hugs need to play number 4 because he is a new person and clarckes has very much experience to play Spain while hugs has first tour when Australia lose his wicket early then they feel pressure and then they lose his match.

  • Webba84 on March 1, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    It would be a bold choice to keep the same 11, the instinct would be to add another spinner regardless of how well they were bowling or how much experience in India they have or what being dragged in to magically win test matches would do to their mental state. At least if they dont make any changes Clarkes men know that he has their confidence, that might be worth more than people realise.

  • Webba84 on March 1, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    It would be a bold choice to keep the same 11, the instinct would be to add another spinner regardless of how well they were bowling or how much experience in India they have or what being dragged in to magically win test matches would do to their mental state. At least if they dont make any changes Clarkes men know that he has their confidence, that might be worth more than people realise.

  • on March 1, 2013, 9:38 GMT

    in my point of view Australia need a David hussy because he played very well against sniper and he also doing spin bowling very well.On the other hand i think Michel Clarke need to play at top like number 3 and Philips hugs need to play number 4 because he is a new person and clarckes has very much experience to play Spain while hugs has first tour when Australia lose his wicket early then they feel pressure and then they lose his match.

  • Meety on March 1, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Got a gut feeling MJ in for Starc, but I am really nervous about Patto playing 2 matches in a row, maybe MJ in for Patto (as dumb as that sounds).

  • Samdanh on March 1, 2013, 9:47 GMT

    Can't believe this. They would probably bring in Doherty and Maxwell surprising India at the last minute

  • Okakaboka on March 1, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    Actually, I would play Doherty instead of Lyon and replace Starc with Maxwell. Maxwell and Doherty could do well in combination. Maxwell does play spin quite well and could well get under the opposition skins a bit. I agree it is a risk, however, to beat India on these doctored pitches, risks have to be taken. Also, Maxwell has started spinning the ball more than any of our other spinners.

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Australia should opt for second spinner and clark should bat at number 3 to get positive results against India for 2nd test.

  • Timmuh on March 1, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    @Webaa84, an unchanged line-up would a bold choice, even a "courageous" one (in the manner of Sir Humphrey Appleby's use of the word). It is also the right one, given that any Australian spinner would get spanked by Indian batsmen and Bird has gone home. Its a tough call, given there is likely to be nothing in it for the quicks - but the spin options are just so bad they can not be used.

  • Craggydev on March 1, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Aus must bring in Maxwell/doherty in place of a pacer if they are to have any chance of levelling the series...

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Doherty could be a decent bet for the Aussies to put up a challenge on Indian wickets, even Lyon's FC average is in axcess of 40, so no point in bringing up Doherty's average here. Although one's got to admit that he doesn't really have that class to trouble Indian batsmen, nor does he provide that much value in tests as he does in the ODIs.

  • on March 1, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Clark missing a trick here.Traditionally,Indian batsmen are not comfortable with left arm bowlers.Plus, some left arm spinners tasted success in India (Vettori , Ray price??).They should play Xavier Doherty to think of taking 20 wickets