India v England, 4th ODI, Mumbai October 23, 2011

India canter to another comprehensive win

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India 223 for 4 (Kohli 86*, Raina 80, Finn 3-45) beat England 220 (Bresnan 45, Trott 41, Aaron 3-24, Ashwin 3-38) by six wickets
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

England's weakness against spin cost them for the third time in the series as they unravelled from a strong position to post an underwhelming total on a slow turning pitch in Mumbai. Their fast bowlers struck three early blows but Virat Kohli and Suresh Raina motored to a 131-run stand at close to seven an over, showcasing the difference between the sides and sparking another needless bout of words in the middle as England's frustration overflowed.

It was England's own batsmen who had let down their ragged bowlers down when they caved in against spin in the afternoon. R Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja took 5 for 79 in 20 overs between them after Jonathan Trott and Kevin Pietersen had built on England's quickest start of the series.

Vinay Kumar broke the 73-run stand between Trott and an uncharacteristically subdued Pietersen, then Jadeja and Ashwin worked their way through a clueless England middle order, striking three times in six overs. Tim Bresnan took the score past 200 with a run-a-ball 45, but England were dismissed with 23 deliveries remaining when fast bowler Varun Aaron bowled Bresnan to finish with three wickets on debut.

Disciplined pace bowling led by the impressive Steven Finn kept England in with an outside chance at the start of the chase. Kohli and Raina kept the runs coming, though, not allowing the score of 46 for 3 to tie them down in a partnership that steadily at first, and then emphatically, pushed England out of the match, making a 5-0 whitewash ever more likely.

Finn and Bresnan had started with testing spells that kept the India openers quiet. The first five overs produced only 17 runs, leading Parthiv Patel to whip across the line and lose his stumps to Finn. Finn struck again in his next over when Gautam Gambhir inside-edged onto his stumps. His opening spell of 5-0-10-2 was followed by a sharp burst from debutant Stuart Meaker that induced Ajinkya Rahane into a poke outside off stump only for wicketkeeper Craig Kieswetter to take a leaping one-handed blinder.

Scott Borthwick, the young legspinner surprisingly chosen ahead of Grame Swann, bowled with heart, but it was unfair to expect him to have the same effect that the experienced Swann could have managed. Kohli and Raina continued almost unbothered, picking off the singles easily and finding the boundaries with crisp shots. The duo's approach was in sharp contrast to England's tottering line-up.

Despite India being three down at the start of the bowling Powerplay, Raina took the chance and chipped Meaker just over mid-off for a boundary. His innings grew into a blur of scythes through extra cover and swings down the ground before Finn bowled him after a missed slog during a heated over. Raina had surged to 80 by then and with Kohli easing into elegant drives and cuts, India were runaway winners with almost ten overs remaining.

England's fate had virtually been sealed when their middle order tried to sweep and slog-sweep their way out of trouble. Pietersen was one of three batsmen to fall on the shots, though the substitute fielder Manoj Tiwary was responsible for sending him back with a diving catch after running across from deep midwicket.

Ravi Bopara missed one from Jadeja to be caught in front and Jonny Bairstow's disappointing series continued when he was bowled by a ripper that pitched on leg and turned to hit off stump. Samit Patel and Bresnan tried to salvage something from 145 for 6 but Patel slog-swept Ashwin straight to deep midwicket in another disappointing batting Powerplay for England.

Aaron, who had consistently hovered above 140kph on debut, came back to run through the lower order, hitting the stumps three times, the last of which straightened past Bresnan's outside edge to clip the top of off, with England well short of a challenging total on a turning pitch without Swann.

Things hadn't looked as gloomy for England when Pietersen and Trott accumulated solidly in a steady partnership that helped them recover after Alastair Cook and Kieswetter departed off successive deliveries. Though Pietersen went hard at deliveries and mistimed his strokes at times, Trott kept the runs flowing, cutting Jadeja three times to the deep point boundary. Trott welcomed Vinay's second spell with a cracking drive that beat the cover sweeper easily but was dismissed two deliveries later. Pietersen continued to find the field and the India spinners soon got on top decisively, yet again.

Abhishek Purohit is an editorial assistant at ESPNcricinfo

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  • RandyOZ on October 26, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    LOL @5wombats and Indians clutching at straws. You may as well smash each other because it will be Oz smashing both of you in the next series! Indias rcord outside India btw is embarassing - not even close to a cricketing superpower.

  • vikram_cricfrenzy on October 25, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    @5wombats SIR DO U REALLY FEEL THAT THIS ENGLISH SIDE HAS THE POTENTIAL I MEAN THEY LOST TO BANGLADESH AND IRELAND THIS WORLDCUP. IN THE LAST 10 YEARS YOU COMPARE THE TEST MATCHES 2001 INDIA WON THE SERIES IN INDIA , 2002 INDIA DRAWS IN ENGLAND , 2006 INDIA WINS THE SERIES IN INDIA , 2007 INDIA WINS THE SERIES IN ENGLAND , 2011 ENGLAND WINS , SO ITS POINTLESS. IN THE ODIS I MEAN WE DONT EVEN NEED TO ARGUE U GUYS HAVE BEEN THRASHED ALWAYS 5 - 0 NOW 2 TIMES IN A ROW

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 16:34 GMT

    @bobmartin - By the Indian logic of being world cup winners equalling a number 1 position that cannot be overtaken until the next world cup - this means that England would be at 1 in T20 for some time regardless of any T20 results from now until then

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    @jmcilhinney - everything was bad today after the 2 openers but Bell yet again did not deliver. Personally I'd say you can't have Bell , Bopara and Trott in the same OD side. Trott may be slow but his SR is still better than Bell's and re Bopara , he can give you a few overs here and there. Personally , right now the only batsmen I'd nail down for the OD/T20 sided are KP and Morgan. Same goes with the bowling. Just as we think we have found some consistent go to bowlers , they seem to go off the boil. Broad has been hit or miss throughout , Bresnan seems to have gone off the boil and Dernbach seems to have gone off the boil too. Finn has looked good in this series but I'm almost waiting for him to fall away also. In both facets of the game we seem to get players who show promise but no consistency/longevity.

  • 5wombats on October 25, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple & @JG2704 - I absolutely agree with you both. But I'd also say this; - England getting to number one status in Test was NOT a fluke. A lot of india fans want to believe that it was some kind of accident that England beat Australia 3-1 in the Ashes in Australia, some kind of accident that England drew the Test series in South Africa 1-1, some kind of accident that England whitewashed india 4-0 (india were "tired", india had injuries, pitches had "bounce", etc, etc). india have never won a Test series in either Australia or South Africa, and not recently against England either (LOL) - and yet they want to go on believing that they are "still number one" - it was unfair, it was a fluke, they were "unlucky", England were "lucky", etc, etc. Let them go on believing it - despite all the facts. Let us see what happens to india every time they get off a plane in a top cricketing country like Australia or England. Disappointment inevitably awaits.... please publish.

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 9:15 GMT

    @Sada Duraivelu - Fair play . Not much to talk about re one dayers from our point of view . England - after showing promise in the ODI series and the 2 warm up matches , albeit vs poor opposition- seem to have regressed in this format. I am speaking about the test format because there are a shower of Indians jibing about England not deserving to be number 1 and that the result was a fluke , excuses excuses.

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 25, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    I'd like to know why so many Indian comments that are purely intended to gloat or wind up English fans rather than talk about the cricket are put on this board, and why English responses aren't listed? This year England 8-0 in England, India 4(6?) - in India. For all the variables that are endlessly quoted on these boards, this is a clear indicator of the relative merits and failings of the 2 sides. We could compare the Indian batsman getting hammered by the chin music in England, or the English batsman tied in knots by the Indian spinners now - This is cricket! not 'stats', not 'you haven't won since'...., or 'we hammered you'. 3 of England's No.1 ranked test team played in this ODI, we don't bang on endlessly about our missing players. As for India, a brilliant comeback in the ODI's, and like you with tests, we need to go back to the drawing board for asian ODI tours. As for your missing stars who are your 'first XI', are they really? Men in their 30's are not the future.

  • RFeynman on October 25, 2011, 7:14 GMT

    @5wombats: I did not argue on whether the test series was close in 2011, it wasn't but to say India received thrashing in ODIs too is stretching it a bit. By your logic (if any), the ODI series in India is more recent than the one in Eng so India have thrashed Eng more recently and are therefore a better team. Silly right?. The great Aussie team of 2001 came to India with 15 consecutive test wins and lost the series, even failing to take a single wicket on one entire day with a bowling lineup of Warne, Mcgrath, Gillespie and Lee in Kolkatta. It did not make them a bad team just because they lost the series, did it? India had been no.1 in tests for 2 years, that is no fluke. Comparing vice versa, India has a much better record in Eng compared to Eng's record in India, despite the recent summer included. People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others' houses, its a saying in India by the way. You get the drift, don't you?

  • bobmartin on October 25, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    @IndiaPunjab and dicky_boy... Sorry to rain on your parade, but these are the FACTS.. The world cup lasts just 6 weeks. India played 9 matches, all but one of which was at home. They played against only 7 of the test playing nations, losing 1 and tying one. You are the world cup holders, nothing more . All that means is that you came out top of the pile in a very limited competition over a very short period of time. On the other hand, Australia are, and have been, top of the ICC ODI rankings for the vast majority of the last 5 years having played against ALL the test playing nations both home and away. India have never been top during that time. That makes Australia by far and away the best ODI team in the world. Call yourselves what you want, but the facts speak for themselves I'm afraid.

  • jmcilhinney on October 25, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    @JG2704, re Ian Bell, he was an underachiever in the test arena for some time but has blossomed into what would be a very good #3 if he could get a game there. Trott obviously hasn't done anything to lose the test #3 spot but, given that they batted Bell at 3 and Trott at 4 for Warks, it's something to consider. A lot of Bell's previous ordinary showings in ODIs have been before he matured as a test player or playing down the order, to which he is not suited. Given some time to get get used to batting in one spot, I really think Bell could be a very effective opener. The Kieswetter experiment has not been a resounding success and I think CK could have a more significant overall impact coming in at 5. I could be wrong, although it's never happened before ;-)

  • RandyOZ on October 26, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    LOL @5wombats and Indians clutching at straws. You may as well smash each other because it will be Oz smashing both of you in the next series! Indias rcord outside India btw is embarassing - not even close to a cricketing superpower.

  • vikram_cricfrenzy on October 25, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    @5wombats SIR DO U REALLY FEEL THAT THIS ENGLISH SIDE HAS THE POTENTIAL I MEAN THEY LOST TO BANGLADESH AND IRELAND THIS WORLDCUP. IN THE LAST 10 YEARS YOU COMPARE THE TEST MATCHES 2001 INDIA WON THE SERIES IN INDIA , 2002 INDIA DRAWS IN ENGLAND , 2006 INDIA WINS THE SERIES IN INDIA , 2007 INDIA WINS THE SERIES IN ENGLAND , 2011 ENGLAND WINS , SO ITS POINTLESS. IN THE ODIS I MEAN WE DONT EVEN NEED TO ARGUE U GUYS HAVE BEEN THRASHED ALWAYS 5 - 0 NOW 2 TIMES IN A ROW

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 16:34 GMT

    @bobmartin - By the Indian logic of being world cup winners equalling a number 1 position that cannot be overtaken until the next world cup - this means that England would be at 1 in T20 for some time regardless of any T20 results from now until then

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    @jmcilhinney - everything was bad today after the 2 openers but Bell yet again did not deliver. Personally I'd say you can't have Bell , Bopara and Trott in the same OD side. Trott may be slow but his SR is still better than Bell's and re Bopara , he can give you a few overs here and there. Personally , right now the only batsmen I'd nail down for the OD/T20 sided are KP and Morgan. Same goes with the bowling. Just as we think we have found some consistent go to bowlers , they seem to go off the boil. Broad has been hit or miss throughout , Bresnan seems to have gone off the boil and Dernbach seems to have gone off the boil too. Finn has looked good in this series but I'm almost waiting for him to fall away also. In both facets of the game we seem to get players who show promise but no consistency/longevity.

  • 5wombats on October 25, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple & @JG2704 - I absolutely agree with you both. But I'd also say this; - England getting to number one status in Test was NOT a fluke. A lot of india fans want to believe that it was some kind of accident that England beat Australia 3-1 in the Ashes in Australia, some kind of accident that England drew the Test series in South Africa 1-1, some kind of accident that England whitewashed india 4-0 (india were "tired", india had injuries, pitches had "bounce", etc, etc). india have never won a Test series in either Australia or South Africa, and not recently against England either (LOL) - and yet they want to go on believing that they are "still number one" - it was unfair, it was a fluke, they were "unlucky", England were "lucky", etc, etc. Let them go on believing it - despite all the facts. Let us see what happens to india every time they get off a plane in a top cricketing country like Australia or England. Disappointment inevitably awaits.... please publish.

  • JG2704 on October 25, 2011, 9:15 GMT

    @Sada Duraivelu - Fair play . Not much to talk about re one dayers from our point of view . England - after showing promise in the ODI series and the 2 warm up matches , albeit vs poor opposition- seem to have regressed in this format. I am speaking about the test format because there are a shower of Indians jibing about England not deserving to be number 1 and that the result was a fluke , excuses excuses.

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 25, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    I'd like to know why so many Indian comments that are purely intended to gloat or wind up English fans rather than talk about the cricket are put on this board, and why English responses aren't listed? This year England 8-0 in England, India 4(6?) - in India. For all the variables that are endlessly quoted on these boards, this is a clear indicator of the relative merits and failings of the 2 sides. We could compare the Indian batsman getting hammered by the chin music in England, or the English batsman tied in knots by the Indian spinners now - This is cricket! not 'stats', not 'you haven't won since'...., or 'we hammered you'. 3 of England's No.1 ranked test team played in this ODI, we don't bang on endlessly about our missing players. As for India, a brilliant comeback in the ODI's, and like you with tests, we need to go back to the drawing board for asian ODI tours. As for your missing stars who are your 'first XI', are they really? Men in their 30's are not the future.

  • RFeynman on October 25, 2011, 7:14 GMT

    @5wombats: I did not argue on whether the test series was close in 2011, it wasn't but to say India received thrashing in ODIs too is stretching it a bit. By your logic (if any), the ODI series in India is more recent than the one in Eng so India have thrashed Eng more recently and are therefore a better team. Silly right?. The great Aussie team of 2001 came to India with 15 consecutive test wins and lost the series, even failing to take a single wicket on one entire day with a bowling lineup of Warne, Mcgrath, Gillespie and Lee in Kolkatta. It did not make them a bad team just because they lost the series, did it? India had been no.1 in tests for 2 years, that is no fluke. Comparing vice versa, India has a much better record in Eng compared to Eng's record in India, despite the recent summer included. People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others' houses, its a saying in India by the way. You get the drift, don't you?

  • bobmartin on October 25, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    @IndiaPunjab and dicky_boy... Sorry to rain on your parade, but these are the FACTS.. The world cup lasts just 6 weeks. India played 9 matches, all but one of which was at home. They played against only 7 of the test playing nations, losing 1 and tying one. You are the world cup holders, nothing more . All that means is that you came out top of the pile in a very limited competition over a very short period of time. On the other hand, Australia are, and have been, top of the ICC ODI rankings for the vast majority of the last 5 years having played against ALL the test playing nations both home and away. India have never been top during that time. That makes Australia by far and away the best ODI team in the world. Call yourselves what you want, but the facts speak for themselves I'm afraid.

  • jmcilhinney on October 25, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    @JG2704, re Ian Bell, he was an underachiever in the test arena for some time but has blossomed into what would be a very good #3 if he could get a game there. Trott obviously hasn't done anything to lose the test #3 spot but, given that they batted Bell at 3 and Trott at 4 for Warks, it's something to consider. A lot of Bell's previous ordinary showings in ODIs have been before he matured as a test player or playing down the order, to which he is not suited. Given some time to get get used to batting in one spot, I really think Bell could be a very effective opener. The Kieswetter experiment has not been a resounding success and I think CK could have a more significant overall impact coming in at 5. I could be wrong, although it's never happened before ;-)

  • jmcilhinney on October 25, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    @dicky_boy, lots of "lol" and "haha" going on there. All your gloating and taunting once again proves my point that your preferred team winning doesn't make you a better person. FYI, while many fans may consider the WC to be the pinnacle of cricket and the ICC may promote it as so, it's really only that way because a test cricket tournament is impractical. Look at the issues the ICC are having even getting a test tournament going for just the top four teams. It's primarily an issue of format, not sporting value. Also, the fact that the Facebook generation have negligible attention spans doesn't help. BTW, England have won 3 of the last 4 Ashes series. As for the WC, India played 2 more matches than England with the last being over 3 months before the first test in England. I'm not sure that you can claim WC exhaustion as an excuse for losing that test series. Nice attempt to distort the facts though.

  • mathewjohn2176 on October 25, 2011, 2:12 GMT

    @JG2704, hahaha the same England team were so good in one day matches in England and now losing with huge margin in India,so the reality is different here.And as far as I know I don't even remember when England won anything in India for n number of years,.@ 5wombat,no one denying the fact that India got thrashed in England,but you can't give excuses that why England not winning in India for many many years and who will forget the humiliation 0-5 drubbing were handed over by mighty Aussies after winning the ashes in 2005 ( in backyard).

  • dicky_boy on October 24, 2011, 23:30 GMT

    Even In ashes u have thumped or better word absolutely crushed for twenty Yeats and now just after winning against a depleted aus team u think u r the champions lol A fresh full strength Indian team would have beaten you in England tests also lol see our players were actually celebrating winning the biggest thing possible in cricket and so were very fatigued the english don't know the feeling yet lol hah

  • dicky_boy on October 24, 2011, 22:41 GMT

    Mr bob martin and all the English fans who are tired of their team losing so pretending that they dont like the world cup well remember the ICC moto THE WORLD CUP IS THE CUP THAT counts lol ...........

  • dicky_boy on October 24, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    Mr bob martin everyone including the English players know world cup is the pinnacle of cricket sport , just because some people are weak in this format man such great comments just one tournament whatever, have u not heard the icc read ICC say the world cup is the cup that counts lol anyway the sound thumping the English got proves we are the WORLD CHAmPIONSSSsssssssssxxx haha

  • IndiaPunjab on October 24, 2011, 22:31 GMT

    to 'bob martin'. because we have won a single competition? Its called the world cup!! The biggest cricket attraction in the world! the biggest cricket event in the world! No the Ashes is only big to england and australia. The world cup is the world cup. Its there to crown the WORLD CHAMPIONS. Sorry how many times have england won the cricket world cup ? Lets compare that to India now . .

  • IndiaPunjab on October 24, 2011, 22:27 GMT

    to 'Front-Foot-Lunge' . What youngsters are you making excuses about regarding Englands non existent performance in india? Kohli, raina, rahane, yadav, jadeja, aaron. These are the guys who are playing and making the team. For first 3 matches when england thought they had a chance (LOL) dernbach bresnan finn(outstanding bowler) patel and swann were the bowlers. 1 of the are youngsters. And the batting ? 1 young english batsman was in the team. the rest was cook kies trott bopara pietersen . Class is way too big between the sides in ODI cricket. When england lose to india in the t20 india will be above them in the t20 rankings too. However tests, credit where credit is due, england is no1 for a reason. But with zaheer khan i feel india are only very slightly behind england in tests. Without him though spells badtimes. But England HAVE to win in India soon its becoming way too long and embarassing now.

  • on October 24, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    JG2704 - is this test series or ODI?? lets finish the ODI business - we can talk about test next year... lol i know the english are very bored of ODI..... live in the world of tests.... :))

  • JG2704 on October 24, 2011, 20:19 GMT

    @Juiceoftheapple - I agree with where you're coming from but the thing is Patel has come on and done agood job with the ball. Suppiah was like that for Somerset for most of last season but it seemed one horrendous over and he was no longer used as a bowler which in OD/T20 became more important than his batting. If Patel became a Luke Wright and came in at 7 with bat but wasn't trusted to bowl I'd be 100% with you

  • bobmartin on October 24, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    @Shreya Prasad on (October 24 2011, 11:52 AM GMT) "The ODI rankings have changed dude, India is on 3rd position"...

    Sorry to disppoint you dude, but Sth Africa are 3rd. Although the current ICC rankings show India as equal on 117 points with Sth Africa, India are placed 4th due to the difference in the decimal points, which are not published. Maybe you're referring to the BCCI table which probably shows India 200 ranking points above everyone else simply because they won a single competition... aka the world cup.

  • bigdhonifan on October 24, 2011, 19:42 GMT

    Poor Attitude from English players. They need to Learn from India. Lets Cook and his boys get a learning class from Dhoni!

  • JG2704 on October 24, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    @mathewjohn2176 AND OTHER INDIAN FANS- This drubbing that England are being handed is in OD format where they are at 5 , It has no bearing on the test format whatsoever.Could affect confidence but Eng proved in the very recent past when we beat Australia away in the last test series there followed by a 6-1 mauling in the ODI's vs Aus and a generally poor world cup that we don't necessarily take poor OD form into test series with home series wins vs Sri Lanka and India. Many Indians have brought up the past records over England so I decided to check out the stats for myself. Over the 5 test series from 96-2008/9 including 3 in India , India have a mammoth 2 match advantage. I was surprised as I thought by the way you all talked that you crushed us in all of them when in reality none were won by either side by more than 1 match and many of these were when Eng were not so good. So on that basis you reckon India would go from being mauled to being maulers in such a short time? Honestly?

  • IndiaPunjab on October 24, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    in a weeks time india will be 2nd in ODI rankings, and above england in t20 rankings. Win an ODI series or Test series in INDIA then get back to us england fans. Credit to '5wombats' though, you talk a lot of sense, not all the time though lol!

  • JG2704 on October 24, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    @mathewjohn2176 - So India go from losing by huge margins in the test arena in England to winning by the same margins just because the conditions are different within 3 months or so? Get real!

  • muthuthewaves on October 24, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    if england wins its game and if india wins its fluke. Lot of english fans makin fun here. Dont giv any response to those brainless dumbs. Watever it is india r the world champs now. Come wit a win dont come wit any excuse havin an injury list alwys. First learn wat is cricket

  • 5wombats on October 24, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    I just cannot understand this obsession with what happened in 2007. How is it relevant to the drubbing England gave India in 2011? Indias humiliation in England in 2011 is not an excuse, it's a fact. It's no use hiding behind what happened in 2007- it won't make Indias tour of England in 2011 go away. If India were such a"great" cricketing superpower they would have beaten England easily in England. They didn't, and so one can conclude - they aren't.

  • 5wombats on October 24, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    I just cannot understand this obsession with what happened in 2007. How is it relevant to the drubbing England gave India in 2011? Indias humiliation in England in 2011 is not an excuse, it's a fact. It's no use hiding behind what happened in 2007- it won't make Indias tour of England in 2011 go away. If India were such a"great" cricketing superpower they would have beaten England easily in England. They didn't, and so one can conclude - they aren't.

  • on October 24, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    szaranger - "yet they thrashed India in England. Now India beating them and then call themselves world champs? Grow up!" - Have you heard about world cups?? and have you heard about 2011 Cricket world cup? Have you heard about current world champions?? Have you heard about India?? INDIA current WORLD CHAMPIONS. Man up!

  • 5wombats on October 24, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    I just cannot understand this obsession with what happened in 2007. How is it relevant to the drubbing England gave India in 2011? Indias humiliation in England in 2011 is not an excuse, it's a fact. It's no use hiding behind what happened in 2007- it won't make Indias tour of England in 2011 go away. If India were such a"great" cricketing superpower they would have beaten England easily in England. They didn't, and so one can conclude - they aren't.

  • Tatsache on October 24, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    @ixwaku ...dude if there is dead pitch then why wickets are felling in england side ?? and main thing is same pitch for both team..accept it England out played..of course india also outplayed in England because of home ground.actualy in england there was not ODI that is D/L innings :)

  • sprasanth on October 24, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    I see a lot of comments on how one sided the pitches are. But, isn't this what makes the game more interesting. For god's sake, the nature of the pitches in one's homeland determine the batting style of a player right down to the position of his bat's sweet-spot (lower in the subcontinent than in pace friendly conditions). "Indians can't pull". Ever seen more elegant drivers. You lose this diversity and all the drama behind India's tour of England or Australia's tour of the subcontinent is lost completely. (No offense, but England's tours of the subcontinent have never been interesting enough). Teams that pull off victories in such hostile conditions are the ones that deserve to be on top. And if Team India believes have have found redemption in this series win for the test defeat in England, boy they are so wrong. And, by the way, it is so funny to watch these English tough guys loose it on the field. That they believe they are mature enough to be planned aggressive is amusing.

  • vishal71440 on October 24, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    @Johnson Sunil Dsouza ...there is no need for a neutral venue.......England 3-0 in England in 5 match series. and now India 4-0 so far in India in 5 match series....thus so far it is (Ind)4-3(Eng) in 9 matches. No. of matches played in each country is same. so that will give us the final result, with one more ODI to go.

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 24, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    Whilst patel hit a superb knock in one of the games, I really can't see that he should be in the starting XI if he doesn't bowl. I'm not saying he won't work in other countries, but we should have gone with our best spin attack of 2 spinners - Horses for courses! A normal seam bowling allrounder line up of Broad/Bresnan/Woakes (and Swann) should be good enough to bat. I think the lesson Borthwick was dished out in this game (and hopefully the next) is invaluable experience for the young man. Bell has finally buried his test demons and become a great test batsman, theres no reason if he coomes in at 2 or 3 and with time to settle in, why he can't do the same in ODI's - I'd say at Bopara's expense. Our aggressive batting approach hasn't worked, and we need to see out the 50 overs and have the likes of Bairstow/Kies/Buttler coming in at 40 overs, not at 30! The last 15 over charge is key - not the first 10 overs. Drop Kieswetter to 6 for this. And more 1s and 2s!!!!!

  • KarlCorrea on October 24, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    I told you guys Aaron needed a game. He has proved his worth. Please stick with him guys.

  • anshu.s on October 24, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    Firstly i would sat that this brand new oppenning pair of P.Patel n A.Rahane dosen't impress me yes they are good players of fast bowling but are not srokeplayers.....they are good on backfoot n good at plonking thier bats n runing for singles.....but they have that strokeplay and boundry hitting capability needed in times of 20-20 type one-day cricket...... Secondly English batters not only play too many dot balls but lack the power game weather they play in India or There own country or anywhere......Trott can't play like this ,strike rate of 70,s in today's times is inexcusable,same goes for Cook n Bopara n everyone's darling Ian bell......Kieeswitter is overhyped, but i expect a lot from Butler,S.Davies,T. Maynard,James vince n B.stokes......Bairstow is a star too,pity he had a bad series

  • shaantanu on October 24, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    Presently no single team deserves to be outright no 1s as WI in the 80s and Australia in the 90s and 00s.Period.So no 1 position will keep fluctuating and thats better for the game

  • on October 24, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    @Bobmartin The ODI rankings have changed dude, India is on 3rd position.

  • on October 24, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    Well, the result have been surprising. Anyway, England has holes to fill in their side. Good luck for next game.

  • JG2704 on October 24, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    RE IAN BELL - For everyone. Please look carefully at the guys stats on ODI's for England and if you want to break it down to his stats for England in ODI's in India then do that too. Granted you'd think that he'd be able to transfer his test form to the ODI format but he doesn't. If anyone wants to debate this further with me then please do so,

  • karl43 on October 24, 2011, 11:11 GMT

    England have been as useless in this ODI series as India were this summer in the tests and ODI's..the margins of victory have been huge in this series and I can't believe this is the same england side which thrashed india in the tests and to a lesser extent in the limited overs format. This nightmare trip is nearly over thankfully but it shows how much england are going to have to improve before they play a test & odi series in india later next year, a few over inflated ego's in the england team will have been dented i'm sure.

  • smartguy786 on October 24, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    Great win for India, well done, although im Pakistani Fan, but glad they are dominating over England

  • RFeynman on October 24, 2011, 10:52 GMT

    @5wombats: If there were a number of Indians who have spoken in a condescending manner, you are no better. Last time I checked, fluke was a commonly used term for an aberration, a deviation from the usual. Indian won the test series in Eng in 2007, the last time they traveled there while Eng last won in India in 1984. So from that perspective, it is a fluke to have lost the test series this summer. That doesn't take anything away from how poorly India played in the tests. Yes, they were terrible. But thrashed in ODIs in Eng? I am sorry, I see 3 out of 4 results in the current series as thrashing, not the results in Eng. Agreed, everyone is passionate about their team but just because someone else stoops low, we do too. Right? Take Finn-Raina incident yesterday. Had it been a Ponting in the place of Raina, he would have returned the compliments to Finn. Raina however, accepted the defeat gracefully and left.

  • on October 24, 2011, 10:51 GMT

    England wins in England, India wins in India... How about a tie-breaker at a neutral venue?

  • on October 24, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    The last time England won a series of any kind in India was in 1984-85; no matter how much they plan or how early they turn up, a tour of India usually seems to end up a discombobulating ordeal. ...................

  • mathewjohn2176 on October 24, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    @5wombat,you are wrong,England ranked 4th in odi whereas India ranked 5th before the start of this series.you can't just give excuses all the time by saying England summer win.Now summer is over and England were handed a drubbing in India.Now England exposing their inability to win away from home.subcontinent conditions are always same in srilanka ,Pakistan and India.england conditions are tougher compared to rest of the world condition because of rainy weather,and it's vice versa for all the touring team?YES England fans are giving excuses like weather and pitch conditions now ,the same goes to Indian fans when they were playing in England.so it's better to accept that England inability to win outside England as much as India inability to win outside India.But last I know that India won in England just 4 yrs back where as england yet to win in India for a decade yrs.guess you will know which is better now?

  • karthikfromchennai on October 24, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    Does anyone know the last time Eng managed a win in India?

  • bobmartin on October 24, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    England are top of two ICC ranking tables out of three. Australia are top of the other one. Where are India ?... 3rd, 4th and 5th in the Test, ODI and T20 rankings repectively. Enough said !!!

  • jasonpete on October 24, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    @5wombats,every country has a different condition,it's not just India.Playing in England is also as much as tough like playing in India.But the reality is India did won a series in England 2007 where as England is not winning series in India ,say a minimum decade period.so England shows more inability to win in India compared to India winning in England.Just four yrs back only India won in England and this time got thrashed whereas England getting thrashed in India almost every time they travel for a decade or so.always cant give excuses like pitches and condition.As a neutral I want both these teams to win abroad consistently without blaming each others condition,same goes to both countries cricket fans.

  • satish619chandar on October 24, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    Lol.. Rest of the world doesnt have conditions like in India? How about a place in the world that will swing when overcast and be utter flat under sun(Flatter than the subcontinent).. You got to be lucky to have the weather to aid you and that happens only in that special country.. Fortunately for that team, they were getting it easily.. Once they were playing against Pakistan where they had same condition for the whole match and the world has seen the batting of their stalwarts.. Come out of your Green well and see the world.. The world will say 'Playing spin also is very tough and it requires lots of skills to do it'.. Win in subcontinent and claim yourself as a deserving toppers(As u guys said for the Indians when they were no.1)!!

  • TheUltimateTruth on October 24, 2011, 10:12 GMT

    @5wombats' comment that "India have demonstrated huge inability to win in England" doesn't jell with the facts. I suppose some English fans will say anything to make their embarrassments go away -- cognitive dissonance anyone?? The facts are in the last 10 years, Indians have played in England in 2002, 2004, 2007, and 2011. I agree that India was dominated in 2011, but in the previous 3 series India either won the series (Tests and/or ODIs) or kept it close. 2007 -- India won the test series 1-0, and lost the ODI series 3-4; 2004 -- No tests were played, India lost ODIs 1-2; 2002 -- India drew the test series 1-1, and won the ODIs 2-1. I don't want to embarrass @5wombats by itemizing the Englishmen's record in India during that time. Suffice it to say England did not win ANY series in India and most series weren't even close.

  • satish619chandar on October 24, 2011, 10:11 GMT

    5wombats : So cool... The things that started as 'Finn the 150k bowler will destroy', 'Swann the king pof spin', 'England can win under any condition and anywhere in the world' 'Bairstow the real enforcer' is now put up as.. 'England doesn't focus on ODI', 'England always a great test team and never cares for shorter formats','Tracks are slow and low', 'Field under heavy sun and flies' .. All these are golden words.. But unfortunately, they get stored in the servers and can be picked out anytime we want to show as proof!! I do agree England had a awesome series in home against Indians.. But a one series win will never make things taken for granted.. If India needed a series win in England(Which they did in 2007 already) t prove, the swame applies to England too.. England has the tours to SL n India coming shortly.. Can your(ICC) No.1 team show same sort of result in subcontinent and then i will bow and will always support England!!!!

  • satish619chandar on October 24, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    @ixwaku - Well said.. All the hardwork the subcontinent guys put to pick 20 wkts were simply put down as a dead track/flat track victories.. I guess, they(The Engligh/Aussie fans) think that their tracks are the only ones which are challenging or they are the only ones which require skills.. Even the great great Australian team which is considered to be the best after the WI team never mastered the Indian pitches.. To say that they were lucky that the final day in Chennai test got washed out when India had a easily achievable target is a fact.. They were just lucky to get away with that match and a 2-1 is the result rather than 2-2 series draw... And, that was their best performance in the Indian track(By a long way)..

  • NRI- on October 24, 2011, 9:58 GMT

    Bell is England's best batsman for any form of cricket and yet even Bopara and Bairstow are played ahead of him. Swann also needs to play. India MUST drop Parthiv, what a wasted opportunity. Aaron's ticket for Australia should be booked right now and Sreesanth, Munaf and RP Singh barred from any test criket for at least two years.

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    @szaranger you called india a low rank team (which is in 4th position)....if you take account of the rankings before 2 months then it is 2nd best team.....whatever after 2 months from now we will regain 2nd position.....according to you only the grounds of 3 countries are the grounds......baseless statement and blind arguments can be transferred to trash.....

  • Thyagu5432 on October 24, 2011, 9:34 GMT

    This is turning out to be the mother of all drubbing. The situations (injuries, too much cricket) leading up to the Test series and then the ODI in England went against India in a big way. England have nothing much to complain but are biting the dust big time.

  • ixwaku on October 24, 2011, 9:33 GMT

    OK .... some of the comments from a large part of Indian fans are outrageous! England are a great test team. They have done enough in recent past to be the number one side. Many of the English fans have admitted that their One Day side is still a long way off from getting there. That's a fair call too. On a different note, fans from non-subcontinent should realize that always making comments such as "dead pitches", "unsporting wickets" and "flat tracks" invites a lot of anger especially from Indian fans. Guys, you have to accept wickets in India, Pak and Srli Lanka are of similar nature as it is easy to correlate between wickets in Aus, Eng and SA. Cricket needs both skills "Pace and Spin". Respect them both.

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    I think England should stop playing Cricket.They just dont have any sense in Playing .First play a good cricket,then go for sledging.They are the most ordinary team.They not only need a bowling coach and Batting Coach thay also need a players like we have.HOPELESS Performance by English team.....

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:21 GMT

    after this series india will be back on their #2 rank in odi rankings. and after beating WI 3-0 they will be back as number 1

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:21 GMT

    This on Going India s Thrashing of England will give some loud talking English media and expert in particular to matter or two to think .These are the same bunch of people who famously published England as next big things in cricket after India drubbed 0-4 in England .That doesnt means England really a bad side but India made them look here same what England done to India in their own den.

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:19 GMT

    @szranger: india is 3rd in ODI rankings now..and india can win ODI anywhere outside the subcontinent also, barring there is no rain, D/L and wet conditions..as happened in england

  • jagatr on October 24, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    A full strength England beats a half strength Indian team on home track - hailed as all-conquering hero's A half strength Indian team beats a full strength English side at home - described as home track bullies It all makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Lucky for England they aren't playing a test series in India ....!

  • mathewjohn2176 on October 24, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    @ tony Clark,I am not Indian ,but seriously England also win in their tailored made seam and pacy pitches,but they fail badly in spin conditions.india won last series in England 2007 but look at England ,it's been a decade they yet to win in India.For a change ask England and India to play in srilanka,obviously everyone know India will win by an innings.First of all this is odi series and India did win in aus 2008 cb series.so all in all the message is England also can win in their tailored made bouncy pitches.

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    Who will bell Cook to make Bell bat? As two postings said, is Cook scared of being overshadowed by Bell? What happened to Flower and his authoritative ways? Doesn't Flower want Bell to bat? Flower can't have any such fears as Cook may harbor! What is going on? What is 'cooking' in the English kitchen ( read: dressing room)?

  • on October 24, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    Eng winning in Eng and India winning in India. LOL :D

    Well, being a fan of cricket and not the teams, this is very amusing for me to see, it will be interesting how these two teams will behave outside their countries now.

  • Nutcutlet on October 24, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    Many congratulations to India on yet another emphatic ODI win! If, somehow, we could magically be transported back to the beginning of the ODI series in England, with the current teams in their most recent form I am sure that the matches would be much closer contests, but I would think that India would still take a five match series 3-2. Reasons? India's fielding has undergone a transformation - there's as much of a gulf between the two sides as there was in reverse in England.Their quicks have some real menace about them. Aaron and Yadav, on the evidence we have so far, would be mighty effective in English conditions - which makes one wonder why they weren't played in England as they haven't just dropped down from the sky! The spinners are effective and give little away and the batting, led by the young guns, Kholi and Rainer are playing with massive confidence and considerable skill. England has gone backwards. The focus has gone, so has the confidence and team spirit is ragged.

  • on October 24, 2011, 8:37 GMT

    @vinkesh : LOL how can india beat aus in englad?

  • on October 24, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    Not a surprising result ... English tm is gud only in der condn...india can play wel in other conditions also and we wil see that in aus...

  • on October 24, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    salazar555 Bunch of kids playing for England ? Come on, you cannot be serious. Pietersen, Trott, Finn, Bresnan, Keiswetter, Swan, Cook, Dernbach. Your knowledge of cricket could be written on a postage stamp. Do not come on forums such as this and embarrass yourself. It may have escaped you but it is India that are playing a bunch of Kids, Rahane, Aaron , Yaday all around 21, kholi 22 and most of the other under 24. Let us face it England have been exposed. They will struggle to beat India, Pakistan and SL in sub continental conditions in any format of the game.

  • 5wombats on October 24, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    Who said anything about flukes? It was no fluke that India were handed a drubbing in England. England were by far the better side. In cricket the team that deserves to win wins. When a team loses - like India did in the summer with monotonous regularity, it's no use claiming that "India were the better side really, they were just tired" or "india getting beaten doesn't count because the game was played in England" or "it doesn't count because Cook won the toss". Yes - these are real excuses used by some India fans this summer. India are ranked 4 in Odi England 5. This series changes nothing. Notice that I am not excusing England who have played poorly in Odi. But as soon as India step away from India they have problems. The rest of the world does not have conditions like those found in India. India have demonstrated huge inability to win in England. Nothing can excuse it.

  • jmcilhinney on October 24, 2011, 7:51 GMT

    @Sampdoria, um, no. Noone has short memories. They just don't believe that England won only because of rain. The assertion that India would definitely have won various games if it hadn't rained is baseless. Where's your actual logic for that? Whatever it is I can refute it. I don't know that England would have won if it hadn't rained but you don't know that India would have either. It's just your bias talking. The reasonable fan on either side knows that the games could have gone either way. They were all relatively close and likely would have been without the inclement weather.

  • Flat_Pitch_Bully on October 24, 2011, 7:49 GMT

    Ha ha ha... some comment here are truly brilliant - its becomign hard for the Pommies to actually play 50 overs twice in a day - no one remembers when they last they did so in England!! I think whats really humiliating about these English submissions is that 5 of Indias heavy weights (figuratively and off late literally as well ;-)) Yuvraj, Sehwag, Zaheer, Bhajji and ofcourse Sachin are not even playing - If they were around I think this English side would be asking for a headstart you know - like they bat 10 overs extra or bowl 8 overs less or their wicket-keeper can re-arrange where the stumps are when our batsmen aren't looking! Outside of that I do not see how this team could even come close!

  • jmcilhinney on October 24, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    @Brummieexile, this is just a theory but it may actually be that Bell not playing is a good sign for him. I'm sure that they would have liked to win but I think that this ODI series for England was more about what they could learn for the future than the actual results. KP has been out of form in ODIs for some time so this was a chance for him to show that he still had the will and ability to play this form. Bopara has been borderline for some time and Bairstow is new blood that will likely be a regular in years to come, so I think that England wanted to see what they could do moreso than thinking they deserve a fulltime place over Bell. Patel is the fifth bowler so it's obvious why he's there. I still see Bell as a good candidate to open the innings with Keiswetter either replaced by Buttler or Bairstow or else batting down the order for late hitting. Bell needs to be top 3, maybe 4, or not at all.

  • Sampdoria on October 24, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    Sorry folks, but Rain and Duckworth/Lewis is not going to save England this time unlike in England where the series was looking more like 3-2 to England than 5-0. :)

    Short memories people!

  • on October 24, 2011, 7:13 GMT

    @Tony Clark : y cant India beat ENG in AUS?? They hv beat AUS themselves in CB series 2008...

  • Brummieexile on October 24, 2011, 7:10 GMT

    At a loss to understand how Bopara, Bairstow and Patel are all playing and failing yet Ian Bell is stuck in the dressing room - less than inspired team selection from Cook! is it that he cannot stand the thought of being overshadowed by the player that would have been a much better choice to be England ODI captain?

  • khurramsch on October 24, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    ok 5-0 really seems up & england only had a chance in 3rd odi so far rest were realy 1 sided. apart from result is the body language of idian players after so much criticism & losses in england they came back & thats good sign. odi white wash i think wont b enough to fininsh the memory of england tour but will reduce it a bit & one must agree that even in england odi series was hard fought by india. but this odi white wash doesnt mean tht indian poor performance abroad is finished as they still are not good in AUS, eng & SA. & in england tour india lost 4 tests & tests were strength of india in past few years & also no 1 ranking lost so this odi white wash will not finish that england tour off.

  • jmcilhinney on October 24, 2011, 6:54 GMT

    I think that it's interesting that so many batsmen were out either bowled or LBW. Even three of the four Indian wickets to fall were bowled. Maybe it's just coincidence or good bowling or maybe it says something about the wicket. Not that that excuses the England batting when India only lost four but it is interesting nonetheless.

  • rajeshmc24 on October 24, 2011, 6:50 GMT

    @szaranger: then which is the best team in the world? As per me when it comes to Test Cricket its England currently and in ODI's Its India..... India can regain no.1 ranking in tests very soon and i am confident of that as we got new young good fast bowlers like Varon Aaron and Umesh Yadav as a back up to Zaheer Khan...

  • on October 24, 2011, 6:42 GMT

    for last few years indians are not bad away from home.see facts dude.india drew in aus(2002) at there peak,we were the only team to do that then in last tour(2007)we lost 2-1(all know what happened in sydney,6 umpiring mistakes costed the match,pls show someother match which had this much umpiring blunder).then we won in england(2007),we won in NZ(2009),recently we drew in SA,we won against all these team in india,except SA,we drew with them. 2 won,2 lost(AUS loss should not be taken into count,but fact says we lsot it),1 draw.i dont see this as a bad away result.Atleast we have drawn and won,show me 1 series in subcontinent where england has returned without a serious loss?ON the way to NO 1 ranking though we played mostly india,we never played badly in away,infact we won few after a long time.i can say england reached no 1 by only playing in home or similar conditions.Prove urself in subcontinent like what SA did,untill then no one deserves No 1,truly SA are no 1 test team.

  • on October 24, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    gambhir, yuvraj, sehwag, zak, harbhajan were all injured...therefore we have to field an unprepared lack of experience test team...let us assume england were without the services of cook,bell,morgan,swann and anderson and they are in the subcontinent to play a test series..i would expect a similar thrashing from india with the likes of brothwick, finn, bopara, patel and kieswetter failing to understand the sharp turn and precision bowling from our full fledged injury free indian test team..in a nutshell england are horrible tourists when they visit the subcontinent bcoz playing in nz, aus or SA doesnt gives the english any alienated environment in fact a pretty sunny warm english weather is what they get in these african and down under nations.

  • imwarrior on October 24, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    I am an indian...seriously this is very sad to watch these comments..fans bashing each other...whosoever plays good cricket wins..in summer england was all over india in test..and you cant ignore that..in one days we gave stiff competition i wud say england were lucky to be one the winning side.but in test they were superior in all aspect..both teams have there own weakness, so enjoy the cricket afters all its a gentlemen game

  • on October 24, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    @To all cric luvers who say indians are home track bully,do u say that ind and sri have diff conditions?? ind,sri,pak,ban alltogether called as subcontinent.like wise i dnt find any major diff bwn conditions in SA,AUS,NZ and ENG.S So pls dnt say you are good away playes by winning in the condition simalr to yours..except SA no other country has success in subcontinent.the reason for excluding AUS is that have rarley won in india.for AUS,SA,NZ,ENG the real away win is to win in alien condition like subcontinent likewise for all subcontinent countries they have to win in AUS,SA,NZ,ENG,until then all are home track bullies...

  • on October 24, 2011, 6:11 GMT

    no doubt india were outplayed in the recently concluded test series in england..but if you dissect the indian team's performance for the test series one can enigmatically conclude beyond all doubts that the world champions burdened with heavy expectations were totally a jaded injured team with players hiding their injuries to prove their mettle against the english attack sending the winning test combination in a total disarray. and to those english supporters who think india gets whimped on fast track dont forget the perth test win, the nottingham and leeds test win, adelaide win, recent durban win,win in WI and more...has england really coped with spin in test?not really? the sub continent is a stark reality check for the english test team.

  • on October 24, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    @All Cric fans,current england is a good test team we all accept,but they are invinsible,yes we indians played poorly in england, no excuse in that,but as far as ODI is concerned england doesnt have the rite combo..English fans do u really think that COOK is the rite captain for ODI and with this team u gonna win a world cup?he his a good test player,but not even gud enough to play ODI,he his not aggressive at all..england need threscothick type of opener..we indians are also not a invinsible ODI team,but we have the right combo..with youngsters like kholi,raina,rahane coming good in openeing an dmiddle order dept..find a middle order playe kholi r,so that ur middle order will look secured with the lites of KP and trott.but KP or trott should convert their starts..the biggest problem with english batters are, too many dot balls and not converting the starts.both teams have problems but england problem seems to be large compared to indians. Accept the fact and move on.

  • dicky_boy on October 24, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    @ SZRANGER how can u call these pitches dead pitches, people who cannot play spin call these dead pitches , and from which champion country do u come from lol cause we have won the world cup , ok we won world cup in sa also , and if they were dead pitches both should be equal , if some ones not skillful enough they call them dead pitches lol and ,inter Indian scores in England 275, 280, 300 , 234, and 183(23ovrs) so get ur facts straight we are strong in batting wherever and not our problem if your batsmen can't play spin sry if they don't have the skill

  • satish619chandar on October 24, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    One thing for the world cricket fans. India will continue to play in home tracks for next 2 yrs after Aus series.. Dont blabber nonsense if they regain their No.1 ranking again in that period.. India in last 3 yrs have played away in all the test playing nations and will complete the cycle in Australia this year end.. Then comes the turn of the others to come back to India and complete their turn.. Whereas, England had played most of their tours in home since now to achieve their No.1 ranking and they are going to tour away to maintain it.. By this time next year, we might well see who is the No.1 or atleast who tops among England-India..

  • satish619chandar on October 24, 2011, 5:51 GMT

    One thing dudes.. There are three types of pitches.. Spin fast and flat.. In these, flat tracks are the ones where any batsman can score well.. Rest two require lots of skills to survive and score runs.. Subcontinent provides flat track always(Since the subcontinent players are branded as flat track bullies!!) I always wonder why the other visiting batsmen are not able to do it on flat tracks?? I still wonder what does the visitors need to score runs in India and SL?? And, how much complain will the subcontinent receive if they provide their trademark spin tracks?? We just saw a warning from the ICC for SL track which was very sportive and the most challenging in last few years.. Then, what is the point in playing test cricket in various conditions.. England/Aussies can play only in their home on their home tracks?? If India cant survive on fast tracks and dont deserve to be on top, the same applies to the others too..

  • on October 24, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    @ Sreyes Panicker,Varun aron is a good bowler,and he is getting some reverse swing also..that will be a deadly combination with his speed.But i am requesting to the BCCI please now more training....! I saw Irfan when he enter in international arena with diagonal ( I mean not straight) side on action which generated lot of swing,Pace still remembering the PAK test where he got hatric..Now after lot of training from so called bowling legends he bowling open chested with a straight run up...Everybody want to teach him now he lost completely...! A good swing bowler will be with side on action and with not-stright run uo eg:Kapil,Akram,Hadley...!

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on October 24, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    How many of you think that dhoni could have become the greatest ODI batsman ever if he would have batted on number 3. The guy has a batting average of 76.08 at no-3 with more than 1800 runs in only 33 matches and 18 50+ scores(including 3 centuries). Simply phenomenal record.But he has wasted himself a bit at no-6/7 for larger good of the team, but still I believe by the end of his career he will avg 60+ , he simply looks unconquerable while batting, he doesn't has technique,but has brains to bat. Quite unfortunately saw many Indian fans asking for his head and even wanting him to be sacked from the Indian team, when we were losing in England. Scarcity of true fans,yeah?

  • on October 24, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    Wininning and losing is natural in any game. No one should humilate a losing side or too much appreciate a winning side. The game should be enjoyed without any attachments or emotions. Congradulations India on the spectacular success and best wishes to England for a better luck.

    someswar

  • AnoopPampackal on October 24, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    Well Done Team India......!!!!

  • on October 24, 2011, 5:29 GMT

    I really do not know what England Team Management is thinking. Why are they keeping Ian Bell out of the side? What wrong has he done? He could be a better bet than Bopara or Bairstow. I hope at least on the 5th ODI they will bring in Ian Bell. In fact, he could bowl few overs of spin as well if required.

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on October 24, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    One bad series don't make a team home-tiger, India has been performing well and winning overseas since the advent of ganguly era.Even during dhoni era, we have won several overseas tests and odis.Some people just refuse to understand this simple facts and continue harping over the same thing. I will call India as home tigers only and only if they are thrashed against aussies coming january.A 2-2 or even a loss of 2-1 will be perfectly fine for me to acknowledge India as a good complete test side. Similarly for England, I acknowledge them as a no-1 test side as of now, and will continue doing so, untill and unless they lose comprehensively all the 3 series against India,srilanka and pakistan. As of now enjoying the whompings of england by India.but seriously looking for Aussies series..

  • nitinkg on October 24, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    I think for England to win in India, they need to encourage their players to play in IPL, let them spend about 2 months in india and get comfortable with Indian conditions. In their current team only Bopara and KP play in IPL.

  • Harishonthemic on October 24, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    @voma: Ain't it the same reason why Indians were white-washed in England, mate? Injured senior players, inexperienced young players on foreign soil. Same happening to Eng in Ind as it happened to Ind in Eng. I guess we, fans, need to respect other top teams. After all, they are not at the top just by a single series win, but by years of victories. And while there were Indian fans who lamented the English victory, there were many who were impressed by the genuine pace bowling from Eng.

  • on October 24, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    ind rocks again suresh raina and kohli kummesaru

  • Rohan_K on October 24, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    @Paul - Except the last series India has not done badly outside Asia, infact we drew in 2002 and won the tests in 2007 in the UK. We won the last series we played in NZ & WI drew in SA, drew a Steve Waugh led Aus side -2003(better Australian side than wat Eng defeated in the Ashes). Similarly Eng have done well in outside the sub- continent but in Asia they have been below par. We considered our losses in Eng ODIs as moral victories because D/L method saved you big time. Apart from Oval ODi we lost all matches with major influence of D/L method. Sadly Eng look a club side in Asia and I believe even they wont stay No.1 in tests for too long if they keep performing like this in Asia. Is Ian Bell on a holiday??? He had a good World cup great home series in Eng and surprised a player like Keiswetter can make it to the national squad. He just cant bat or keep!!!!

  • on October 24, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    At the end of press conference videos, and in the first line of this article, why does it say Trott 41?! It's KP 41 for God's sake!!!

  • on October 24, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    Its grt that India won 4-0 against Eng.But still there are some concerns abt Indian Openers. Its really hard to believe that India hvent hit even a single boundary in the first powerplay which is utter nonsense. I really cant understand y these openers are taking advantage of low scoring chase. We dont expect them to score 60 or more to score in the first 10 overs but atleast 40 - 45 should hve been scored. Any thing less than that is not at all even a par score. Felt bad for patel, unlike rahane he tried to score runs, unfortunately got out playin wrong shot. Its understandable that everyone cant play like viru or gilly, but atleast should be able to score 4 runs an over. Please dont be like 80s or 90s openers...... Hope they would come better in the next game.... Play for team.... Dont play for urself.....

  • on October 24, 2011, 4:18 GMT

    I don't also think that England is No. 1 in Test cricket either. They beat India in their backyard, but do they have the power to beat India here on sub-continent soil? Almost the same batting line up which played in England is battling here to find some oxygen. BCCI should ask them to play a Test series shortly so that we can also PAY THEM BACK that defeat also.

  • mrcool on October 24, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    Its very sad to see players like parthiv patel gets chance to open the innings in consecutive matches despite failure.In past murali vijay got many chances.But good attacking player like uthappa never got consecutive chance as opener despite good scores as opener.He should be automatic choice in sehwag and sachin's absence.

  • elapuli on October 24, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    Dhoni"s reluctance to call the odis with england,as "pay back time",is appreciated,and shows his "gentlemanly" mindset.but i am sure the indian nri supporters in england,can walk with their shirt collars raised,and looking straight at the england supporters,with a triumphant smile....elapuli

  • Vishal_07 on October 24, 2011, 3:31 GMT

    Very satisfying to see India beating England 4-0 so far and a distinct whitewash possibility. As Sharda said yesterday beating India in India in ODIs is a tall order. However, I am not sure why majority of the people are saying England is #1 side. They are #1 in Test, NOT in ODI, so take a chill pill people. Trash talks with the English fans if you'd like, nothing wrong with that but no reason to talk down to them.

  • sathishkrish on October 24, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    Sad to see Eng & India fans bashing each other through these comments. This Eng team looks very good in Test matches in seaming and bouncy conditions. It will be a challenge for them in the sub-continent. India is a top one day side and they still look weak in seaming & bouncy conditions as far as tests are concerned. Both the teams should look to rectify their mistakes and move ahead.

  • mathewjohn2176 on October 24, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    @salazar555,same happened with India,they sent some bunch of kids as India injury list kept growing and they didnt bother to play in England due to world cup win exhaust ,so they didn't take that series seriously and played like how England are playing now here in India.

  • DilshanRocks on October 24, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    haha bairstows face was like "what the... how could you do this to me?!" keep bell out, so much the better for india :)

  • likeintcricket on October 24, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    Amazing how quickly scenarios changes in cricket nowadays. Just a month back England were all smiles now its India's turn to smile about something and in two month time they will be back gain competing against an emerging young Australian side in Australia. Indians fans keep hoping "Yes We Can"

  • on October 24, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    Go Team Blue...one more to go....

  • screamingeagle on October 24, 2011, 3:19 GMT

    @Tony Clark. Put England and India on a SL pitch and see as well. Why only in Aus?

  • Rezaul on October 24, 2011, 3:09 GMT

    Its not surprising that India humiliated England at home and going for white wash which is pretty logical as it has been for long long period of time that India is tiger at their own yards. But interestingly they are still the same cat at abroad which has been going on forever except the brief Ganguly era when India learnt how to win abroad. So, in stead of getting so much excited about Englandś possible white wash I would suggest India to plan for overseas tours and not always look for a half fit bowler like Zaheer. You have to have alternatives ready, so that you can face any situation. However, congrats India for the success. But the wound of thrashing at England in England is beyond overcome! Way to go!

  • Romenevans on October 24, 2011, 3:07 GMT

    @ Karn Mamgain - Dude What the hell. That is the best comment i read in the entire series. ROFLMAO Bwahahhahahahaha! Awesome sarcasm, you better start writing a column in cricinfo bro.

  • on October 24, 2011, 3:00 GMT

    It is increasingly obvious every country has the home advantage and it is becoming increasingly difficult for the visiting teams to conquer India in India. Looking at the three left handers who were bowled yesterday at the 4th ODI Indian batsmen are finding it difficult to work the pace and the rising ball and has still technical issues in dealing with the short stuff.

  • nikkam on October 24, 2011, 2:58 GMT

    this england team is desperately short on skills to tackle the subcontinental conditions...in perspective whatever team comes to india would have found it difficult...now it is clear that morgan is the key to england putting up a competititive total...he can atleast rotate the strike...but is england dependant on one individual for its ODI success?...in the last match atleast england can rest baristow and try bell...they can bat out 50 overs atleast...in hindsight india ODI team adjusted to conditions in england much better and put up a better fight...england should find good players of spin as their batsmen have been fed on seaming tracks alone and now look clueless against quality spin... good for india such young team can whitewash england....way to go!!

  • jmcilhinney on October 24, 2011, 2:43 GMT

    @Binu Joseph, did you read the comments during the last test series? Some India fans were predicting India wins right up to the last game. The more realistic India fans were hoping not to be flogged in that game, as are the more realistic England fans in this one. I expected England to be at least competitive in this series and have been sorely disappointed. They really do have a lot of work to do in limited-overs cricket and on the subcontinent. If Trott had played in game 3 how he played in game 4 then that game might have been different, but that's just an if. I still believe that a test series in India would not be so one-sided, as evidenced by England's dominance in the recent tests followed by closely-fought ODIs. I still think that England are capable of a winning performance in the last game but am not confident of it materialising. Forgetting all else, India well know that it's hard to come back from multiple bad defeats.

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:31 GMT

    After the tour of Australia from December-February this year, India will not be playing any series outside the subcontinent until December 2013. England will have to play Pakistan in the UAE and Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka. If South Africa loses to Australia and India has a respectable series in Australia (as unlikely as it seems), India could possibly get to no.1 again and hold it for a while.

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:27 GMT

    The highlight of this match would the partnership between Raina and Kohli. But above all what i found was an emerging fast bowler,clocking 140, bowling a steady pace who will be an asset for the indian cricket team. Its Varun Aaron. The wickets taken by him are the tailenders of the english line up but the deliveries bowled by him were terrific. If proper training would be provided then Aaron and Yadav will put an end to India's woes in the bowling department.

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:27 GMT

    To all INDIAN fans who think India are a much weaker team than England in tests, the main reason why England won the test series this year is because they had a deep batting order. India were on top at some points during the first two test matches but couldn't knock over the tail, which wagged and put on big scores. Yes India didn't bat well but despite their weaknesses they MIGHT have still won the first two test matches if they had Zaheer. On the first day of the Lord's test before Zaheer got injured England lost couple of wickets and didn't look comfortable. I'm not making excuses and England clearly outplayed India in that series but don't write this Indian team off, assuming all the best players are available I honestly don't think they will have any problems beating England in India. However I don't think they will be able to whitewash them because that's hard to do in Indian conditions, still a series win is a series win.

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:26 GMT

    this is what called as revenge heheh i am so happy that indians back in the battle hope this would continue

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:16 GMT

    Nice to watch an indian fast bowler regularly speeding beyond 140kmph and also bowling good yorkers... well done Varun... Indian bowlers had forgoten tht word 'yorker' since years back ( since the axing of Agarkar)... Also congrats well improving Jadeja & Ashwin. A good chemistry working out between them..

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:13 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke

    The pitches at Delhi and Mohali were more suited to England than India, particularly the Mohali pitch. England simply weren't good enough, they could have actually won both those matches if they fielded half as good as the Indian team did.

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:10 GMT

    India has extracted total revenge for their haplesness at the hands of their adversary during the last english summer. Now all that is left is to put the icing on the cake at Calcutta. This sereis has been the most one sided even more so than the one against New Zealand last year. Well Done MSD take a break and get back to winning ways in Australia

  • on October 24, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    @salazar555

    It's more like England are just going through the motions. They know they have no chance of beating India in India because the last time they won any series in India was in 1985 so instead of sending their best players and demoralizing them they have sent a second string team. If you look at the stats of bowlers like Anderson and Broad in India, they're pretty poor. Also, India have been more competitive in England than England have been in India. They beat England in a test series in 2007 and lost the ODI series 2-3 whereas this is the second time in the last 3 years that England is going to be whitewashed in India.

  • nyc_missile on October 24, 2011, 1:54 GMT

    Rakim, buddy I can understand your comment abt Aaron's pace because its commonplace in Pak :) as they can deliver 145 kmph bolwers in numbers.But for India right now ,anything more than 140 will do so lets not trivialize pace just by the kms they clock but by accuracy too,and this guy has it,with his action he just CANT go wrong so is an exciting prospect for India!

  • mak102480 on October 24, 2011, 1:45 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty: i think eng were also without botham, gower, gooch, stewert, and flintoff. that's clearly why they lost......or rather the fact that eng can't play spin. i can't decide which one it is. haha! just an fyi - swann and dernbech played the first 3 matches and bell is not considered good enough to crack the 11. haha!

  • Iddo555 on October 24, 2011, 1:40 GMT

    Bunch of kids I've not even heard of playing for England, wow they did not think much of this tour, they have sent a kids team and a B or C team over to India. They must not have thought much of this India side to send this team over, Suppose after smashing them 7-0 you wouldn't though

  • mak102480 on October 24, 2011, 1:40 GMT

    maybe india need to recall harbhajan so england can play the spin properly. haha! the look on bairstow's face was awesome. "whoa...huh? what? how did that happen?" but don't worry english fans, the prospects of england winning the world cup in 2031 looks bright. by that time, you'd have at least 6 sa'fers and 5 indians playing for england. hahaha!

  • on October 24, 2011, 1:04 GMT

    Manoj Tiwari should be given a chance. Gambhir & Rahane can open. Parthiv does not need any testing. He can always be considered as a member of the touring teams as a cover for opening as well as wicket keeping.

  • PriestVenkat on October 24, 2011, 0:49 GMT

    Hello MR.Cook & Co.!!! Where is Mr.Bell and what are you doing? He is well known player of Spin bowling. And you guys wasting him in dug out.

  • EverybodylovesSachin on October 24, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    India can also win outside their Home Country !! They are consistent at all. Thats what exactly happened in Worldcup 1983

  • jmcilhinney on October 24, 2011, 0:34 GMT

    Bairstow hasn't had a great series and hasn't looked all that comfortable against spin, but which England batsmen have? I do think he deserves time as he obviously has talent and is a likely future star for England. The thing is, Jos Buttler is also a likely future star and also deserves time. He didn't have the greatest time in the CLT20 though. While it's only one game, it will be interesting to see how they each go in the T20I. If Buttler performs and Bairstow doesn't, I wonder whether that would be enough for the selectors to swap Buttler in for Bairstow in the next ODI series. England like Bopara as a bowling option but he's hardly being used to bowl and will lose his batting place when Morgan returns so I don't see the point in keeping him for the last ODI. I'd get Buttler in that team and use Trott and/or KP if an extra bowler is needed.

  • ddlj26 on October 24, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    Yawn Yawn.... is this how a proclaimed world no 1 plays and loses to a 2nd string india B team... just imagine what would have happened if sachin, sehwag and yuvraj had played... it would have been a massacre for england... England sucks anywhere apart from their own den

  • jmcilhinney on October 23, 2011, 23:49 GMT

    I don;t think that there's much doubt that Steve Finn is going to be in the England team for a long time. He impressed in Australia with his wicket-taking ability but he lacked control. That control is now starting to develop. Meaker also looked quite good on debut. It would have been nice to see a bit more from Borthwick on a spinning track but he also didn't look too bad on debut against good players of spin. England may have missed Swann this game though. For India Varun Aaron looked quite good too. He and Umesh Yadav are an exciting pair. I'd be very surprised not to see Kohli in the test side. He looks more a test batsman than some of India's other successful limited-overs players.

  • jmcilhinney on October 23, 2011, 23:44 GMT

    Another disappointing display from England after being relatively well-placed early on in both innings. India bowled and fielded and I think England did too, but the England middle order just couldn't cope and the Indian middle order had no real pressure on them. I like the way Cook is trying to play but he is failing too often. England want to use ODIs to groom him for the test captaincy but I'm not convinced he's a viable ODI player long term. CK looked much better attacking. He was a little unlucky to go as the ball kept low but it was also clever bowling by PK. Trott played well and that's how he should play that way every time. KP looked good early but got bogged down. Too many dot balls again and he went trying to relieve pressure that shouldn't have been. Great catch by the way. Bopara failed to convince yet again. England think he should be a good player and so do I but he just isn't showing it. Time to go.

  • EverybodylovesSachin on October 23, 2011, 23:35 GMT

    If you come to India nowadays You are going to Loose..Does not matter it is Test or ODI..Does not matter if your rank is No 1...

  • Nampally on October 23, 2011, 23:05 GMT

    Another big thumping win for India, as expected. England will find difficult to beat India on Indian soil. Let us move on and ask the Selectors to name the Indian regular ODI team. I bet they Can't. Why? Because they never tried to build one. The present team that is beating England is not the Indian ODI team - far from it.Will Tendulkar & Sehwag open or Parthiv & Rahane or any other combo.Same with the bowlers. Will Ashwin be the off spinner or they will bring back Bhaiji?In All rounders - Does Yuvraj, Jadej or Y.Pathan take this job? Fast Bowlers - Yadav, Aaron & Kumar or Zaheer, Ishant & Munaf. Leg spinners - Rahul sharma or Mishra or Ojha?Middle order -Gambhir, Kohli & Raina or other combo. These are more important things than going for 5-0 win in a dead Rubber.The Selectors should pick 2 "Fit squad" which are truly Indian teams and play them as units.When these units play together & gel, then India can beat any team at home or abroad.This should be the priority right Now.

  • PavanM on October 23, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    I think this is first time in Indian cricket 9 fast/fast medium bowlers playing for India.

    Zaheer,Praveen,Sree,Munaf,Vinay,mithun, and quicks like Ishanth,yadav,varun

  • szaranger on October 23, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Why is this hoo-ha about who's the best and who's not. Two low ranked teams beating each other at their home grounds and claiming the best in the world? India is number 4 (probably number 6 or seven if played more ODIs outside india) and England is number 5. Below par teams like India should play more games outside their dead pitches and then you will see who's really struggling. England has never been a good ODI side, they lost to Ireland and Blangladesh , yet they thrashed India in England. Now India beating them and then call themselves world champs? Grow up!

  • Nish_US on October 23, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    Had there been a 5-test series to follow the ODI....What would your predictions be?

    Please publish..

  • dicky_boy on October 23, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    Indian scores in England 275 and eng 7.3 overs 30 for 2 guess what rain comes 2 nd odi 183(23 overs ) and yeah rain slippery ball but k England chased well 3 rd odi India 234 and then England struggling 90 for 3 ball spinning but guess what rain comes makes the ball wet 4 th odi India 280 guess what rain comes makes the ball wet 5 th odi, India 300 guess what rain comes. And India lost the toss in all games

    In India series England scores 167, 236,299,220 lol I am not saying more

  • JoeObserver on October 23, 2011, 22:22 GMT

    I always see England as the waekest but wicked links among the wester countries. Everytime I visit that tiny island and I see those grumpy faces I wonder why they call as Great Britain. Is the media or elites in England creating all those hypes? No wonder Nasser Hussains Donkey comments might have been the results of those false arrogances.

  • on October 23, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    england bowlers were stiff becoz they always lost their rytham nd run ups which i think is also important for a seem bowler.....the english made a huge mistake by standing out swann in 2days match,,nd y not ian bell is getting a chance 2 play.....batsman r nt showing invincible attitude 2wards bowlers...nd they r getting inseure on indias magnificent performance which indian batsmen r doing with ease nd grace...elegent performance by kohli along with smashing performance of raina....nd indian bowler aaron made a wonderful debut nd all around performance made them win the match convincingly.......and congrets to black caps on winning the rugby world cup...:)

  • phoenixsteve on October 23, 2011, 22:09 GMT

    Great display by India and yet another disappointment from England. Hopefully they ae learning lessons but the performances don't seem to be getting better? Congratulations to India and their supporters who have been the best team by a long way. A whitewash looks on the cards........ COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • vverma on October 23, 2011, 22:09 GMT

    Didn't see the match, but saw the highlights. As an Indian cricket fan, this is probably the first time a seamer knocking off the bails thrice hasn't come as bad news.

  • Pritt32 on October 23, 2011, 22:06 GMT

    India is capable of performing when it matters, as many critics feared the worst of a massive decline. India has answered critics well by hammering England 4-0 in the one day series and deservedly winning the series for playing quality cricket. England continues to struggle in the sub-continent and cannot play quality spin bowling the Indian team boost at present. India convincingly won today match by bowling England for the below the par 220. The visitors struggled as 6 over's unused. I must give full credit to Indian bowlers. India batting is attractive and boost potential stars. It is a real pleasure to watch. England seem play in well in their backyard and their cricket looked out of sort. I think it is down to poor selection of players. Well done to India for bouncing back strongly against England and not allowing them to dictate this time.I hope the England tour is a distant memory, as less said about it the better.

  • Charlie_Ellis on October 23, 2011, 22:00 GMT

    Well, despite all the agro on the field and on this post, I'd like to say well played to India! Albeit in home conditions, they have come back so well from their England tour despite missing several big players (Eng may miss Morgan and Broad, but India are without Tendulkar, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Zaheer, etc). This Indian middle order of Kohli, Raina and Dhoni just don't seem to fail in ODIs, despite not having many better top order platforms than England. Plus Jadeja has been prominent, scoring crucial runs and performing as well as a specialist spinner might with the ball. For England, only Trott and Pietersen of the top 6 have shown any consistency, the rest have really struggled. Dropping Swann today was strange, although at least Borthwick was given a decent spell despite struggling, as he (and the management) will learn from that. Intesesting time in world cricket though, with many nations VERY tough to beat at home! Best team away in 2011? Er, Australia. I thought they were finished?!

  • AK_25 on October 23, 2011, 21:57 GMT

    i think eng came here with overconfidence....they didnt do dere homework....and abt eng young talent....they dont get the exposoure like..india,SA and AUS....since these teams are regularly playing emerging player tournament every year...u can see...the talent like...rahane,varun aron,umesh yadav,manoj tiwary...who are just played in the tournament a barely 2 months ago..n now playing for their national team.....n i dont thnk playing ony in domestics would do any good to the future talents of any country....

  • Munkeymomo on October 23, 2011, 21:50 GMT

    Impressed by Varun. I've been dying to see him bowl, I've heard so much and god knows its about time India produced another good quickie to accompany Zak and now Varun and Yadav impress in ODIs. England have been very poor, batting, bowling and fielding. Bresnan in particular has been poor. I can now reinstate my view that JOS BUTTLER SHOULD BE IN THE ENGLAND ODI SIDE. I honestly think that guy is something special, moreso than Bairstow etc.

    Hats off to India, they have throroughly outplayed England. I guess the 2 sides are not so different after all.

    @Tarly Bolla: England have been poor but your just embarrassing yourself mate.

  • johnathonjosephs on October 23, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    a lot of "what happened to England" remarks. Well I have news for you guys, when it comes to ODIs, England is not even top 3. It's ranked at 5. 5 out of 9. They only teams they are on top of in ODIs are Pakistan, West Indies, NZ, and Bangla Let the Test come and we'll see whos the real world champions

  • on October 23, 2011, 21:39 GMT

    MHJohn kindly chk the career stats of PP and Robin , then come back here again

  • RoarofTiger on October 23, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    Today I played a cricket match on my PS2 with India on my side against England...Alas, england lost there as well....:)

  • SanjivAwesome on October 23, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    At one stage England were threatening to put up a fight and I was getting excited by the prospect of a higher score from them. I am mystified why the English board sent such a weak team to tour. The English board has short changed local Indian fans - I was hoping for decent cricket. Certainly based on our walloping by England two months earlier, I was hoping to assess the fighting spirit of our unit.

  • RoarofTiger on October 23, 2011, 21:25 GMT

    @ Karn Mamgain ...hilarious...but wel said :) I guess there will be more whining responses to be waited for :)

  • Munkeymomo on October 23, 2011, 21:20 GMT

    Impressed by Varun. I've been dying to see him bowl, I've heard so much and god knows its about time India produced another good quickie to accompany Zak and now Varun and Yadav impress in ODIs. England have been very poor, batting, bowling and fielding. Bresnan in particular has been poor. I can now reinstate my view that JOS BUTTLER SHOULD BE IN THE ENGLAND ODI SIDE. I honestly think that guy is something special, moreso than Bairstow etc.

    Hats off to India, they have throroughly outplayed England. I guess the 2 sides are not so different after all.

    @Tarly Bolla: England have been poor but your just embarrassing yourself mate.

  • RoarofTiger on October 23, 2011, 21:16 GMT

    waiting for my friend 5Wombats to comment over this defeat now :) I guess according to him this might be just another fluke by India :) No mercy India....we need trashing 5-0.....nothing less will be satisfactory

  • on October 23, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    these current 2 sides if u match up the experience india are far more experience than england....england seems to be trying something here,maybe not taking this series seriously.... at the rate these 2 teams have played if the 2 sides were at full strength would have made for an even series.....india took good advantage of sloppy england laying just like england did...

  • rapidstar on October 23, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    Well done India. Now go for the kill, show 5-0 white wash. Replace Parthiv, he got too many chances. I want to see Sehwag if he is fit in the last game.

  • itsthewayuplay on October 23, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    Contd Bresnan batted really well, was looking comfortable and it took a good 'un to get him out. He also bowled well in the opening spell with Finn. Meaker impressed but felt Borthwick was not as fluent as I've seen before-maybe due to a touch of nerves. Anyway given the purchase Ashwin and Jadeja got from the pitch I thought Borthwick would have made a telling contribution. In the series to date Ind have won the key moments or key passages of play and happened again today, so whenever Eng looked like they were setting a platform they got pegged back. Similar story with the ball, whenever Ind wobbled, a major partnership not only rescued them but has seen them home or as good as. The biggest positive was seeing Dhoni go up and talk to his bowlers, something he didn't do once during the tests.

  • itsthewayuplay on October 23, 2011, 20:59 GMT

    Was shaping up to be an inteersting game with Ind at 46-3 with Finn excellent yet again. Lots of things happening this game-Aaron looked a different bowler after his 1st wicket and was finally good to see an Ind pacer bowl consistent line and length and pick up wickets with genuine wicket-taking deliveries. His cleaning up of the tail was reminiscent of Munaf on debut against Eng. Let's hope he doesn't go the same way as Munaf. Ind spinners also looked genuinely threateningly with Jadeja bowling a gem to dismiss Bairstow. Question is whether can they do this on a consistent basis. Disappointed to see Rahane get out the way he did especially after he applied himself in the last game. Raina continued his good form albeit with some fortune thrown in and some of Kohli's off-side drives were of the highest quality. Eng also had positives starting with Keiswetter at the top with the bat hitting a couple of massive sixes who also took a stunning catch but let himself down by dropping Raina.

  • jaggi.jagan on October 23, 2011, 20:52 GMT

    Parthiv Patel, in his last 9 innings has a combined total of 233 runs at a little over 25 per innings. This is a opener, not fault of his, the team management lacks vision. With Sachin & Shewag missing on injuries, isn't this a best time to invest some time on a up and coming opener or even push Gambhir back to open and give a middle order batsman an extended run. We could have even pushed Jadeja a little higher in the middle order to see how he makes use of a chance like that. Who knows, he could develop in to a decent batting all rounder that we have been on the look for a long time. The management killed Dinesh Karthik by having him open and they have done the same to Parthiv Patel. Parthiv is probably the lesser talented of all wicket keeper batsman in India. His fielding too is bad......

  • johnathonjosephs on October 23, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    Wow Varun Aaron was such a let down. For a whole month, they were talking about his speed, and his fastest ball must have been 91 MPH LOL

  • DrAtharAbbas on October 23, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    IF India loses all matches in England and is winning every match in India. I wonder what the most maligned Pakistan team in England (2010) do in Pakistan who had beaten Both Australia and England there more than once. Something in the present circumstances we can only wonder about that and never know. Also what would the rankings look like today if Pakistan were playing in Pakistan too. . . .

  • ultrasnow on October 23, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    I'm Indian and think England won the test series fair and square. Why give excuses guys? The ODI series has been well avenged and India get their chance to avenge the 3-0 test humiliation when England tour again. Let's give credit where it's due. England are a very good test team. Let's see if they can improve in the sub-continent. Regards.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 23, 2011, 20:34 GMT

    If Cook wins the toss, he should ask India to bat. I think their hapless bowlers can't defend successfully. Hopefully Bell gets into the team and makes an important contribution in a meaningful chase along with KP and Trott. BTW, what happened to Swann? He is not in the team for the 4th ODI. Sourav Dada on TV is of the opinion that he would have been of immense help in today's ODI. England's basics not up to scratch, as per Trott. Looks like he is saying bring in Bell and persist with Swann in India. When the team management is deaf it's no use giving your valuable inputs. Trott and KP can just keep quiet and perform and Cook and Flower can continue to screw up and Bell can continue to watch his team being steam-rolled by the Indians on these difficult and challenging tracks, tracks that suit his batting style. Shame!

  • Raman.UV on October 23, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    @genard pereira... they r not past mate. v till need them cos v need experience of uv, zak bajji sehwag and sachin. other than sachin every body can be there for easy 4 more years. cos these r world class played and they had proved there worth. these young indian side is doing well but see our start in all the 4 matches with bat. and still these young lads need to prove a lot other than kohli raina and pk. gambhir and msd r now young any more. v need good bowlers like varun n umesh who have good pace and they need to be consistent and maintain there fitness level. i can't see vinay or aravind or mithun as india's future.

  • on October 23, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    India can ONLY win in their Home Country !!

    They are not consistent at all. Thats what exactly happened in Worldcup 2011

  • TLKC on October 23, 2011, 20:24 GMT

    Any serious thoughts by anyone about playing Ian Bell now that the series is well and truly lost, or would the embarrassment of his scoring a century at a run a ball in the last ODI be too much. Considering he is the fourth ranked (test) batsman in the World at the moment and probably Englands best player of spin, his exclusion from this series is inexplicable. He is also worth ten runs in the field. Was it only August we had "The duo (Bell and Pietersen), who came together with England on the back foot, sapped the life out of the tourists with huge hundreds in a phenomenal stand of 350 on the second day". Bell 181 no. I'm sure India were delighted everytime his selection was 'not' announced. I can only think he is being punished for something that has eluded the media!

  • Tigg on October 23, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    England still haven't learnt that bit part players won't do in ODIs. Having a batsman who can bowla a bit, or a bowler who can bat a bit is fine. But supposed allrounders who aren't anything special with bat or ball (Patel, Bopara) can't cut it. Fairly clueless with the bat (40 ball 70 aside) and expensive with the ball.

    Drop Bopara for Bell, bring Swann back for Patel and give Onions a game. Salvage some pride England.

  • on October 23, 2011, 20:22 GMT

    I'm not english but take a look at some of these comments, england can only play at home? They beat australia in australia, they are easily the number one team in the world, i think these results tell us not that england can only play at home but India are the ones who can only play at home, on their pitches that are doctored to suit them. Put India v England on an Australian pitch and you'll see who the better team is, ie England by an innings.

  • yorkshirematt on October 23, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    @Tarly Bolla And what is wrong with drinking tea and eating fish and chips?

  • on October 23, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    @ Paul Rone-Clarke well India can play seam and swing better than England play spin , Bcoz we won the last test series in england in 2007 and ODI series in2002 , When was the last time England won a test or an ODI series in India , Oh my god The last time they won an ODI against INDIA in INDIA was in 2006 , So Who is better Buddy...

  • on October 23, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    No more comments required on the rivalry, I think enough has been proved. But a few things about today's match, Varun and Umesh are both exciting, though Varun is a better ODI bowler and Umesh a better test bowler. One might go back and see the domestic matches for proof. However, i dont know why, but not playing both together, if done willfully is a masterstroke by the Indian selectors. Everyone is talking about Umesh and Varun, and they seem to be in a sweet little healthy competition. So far as England are concerned, Finn is world-class. But Borthwick is a watch-out. He was expensive but has impressive variety

  • on October 23, 2011, 20:07 GMT

    Its not entirely about conditions. Today England could have won if they would have put pressure on India. Kohli and raina were picking singles with such an ease. You have to work to win nobody will give u win because u deserve it.

  • IndiaNumeroUno on October 23, 2011, 20:06 GMT

    @Karn Mamgain - that really made me ROFL !!! Brilliant!!!

  • posybeon123 on October 23, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    lol geranda but those players are osm yuvi, sachin. viru. zak ftw

  • kumarcoolbuddy on October 23, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke, I agree India cannot play Seam and swing as much as spin but that doesn't mean that India is poor in those conditions. If that was true it would have not won 2007 test series in ENG. I totally agree India performed badly in recent ENG series and that was the only bad series India had in recent history. There were many factors (excuses in ENG fans' view) affected India in ENG including psychological dramas with bad host treatment. What about ENG now? No one is playing psychological dramas in India. Only advantage to India is home. But It should not bother since ENG is greatest team now. India has great fighting spirit though it failed in ENG last summer.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    England can't play on foreign soil, unless its damp and overcast. Come on India, make it 5-0 and send the South Africans to England to drink their cups of tea and eas fish and chips.

  • drsankalp on October 23, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    What happened to #England team?I think they got 15 donkeys in their team who can not play #cricket outside England

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    England, I think Bangladesh and Kenya are looking forward to playing against you

  • pratit on October 23, 2011, 19:53 GMT

    i thought varun was quicker. Hope that he touches 150 as he gets more confident

  • posybeon123 on October 23, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    LOL INDIA FTW ENGLAND IS good at only home soil 5-0 INDIA england is a failure if even india B team can beat them 4-1 or 5-0

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:47 GMT

    For everyone that goes on about Sachin. Shewag, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Manuf, Nehra, Harbajan etc not being in the team, those guys are the past. the future belongs to Kholi, Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Raina,Pujara,Aaron, Yadav, Ishant, Ashwin and perhaps other talent waiting to fill their shoes. As for England I doubt whether they can ever win a test series in India.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    in 2012 in test series it will be 3-0 for india..those poor guys cant play spin.....and 1 think india will gain no 1 ranking before eng come to india... because i dont see even in dream that eng will play well in abudhabi aganist pak..there bowling is very well and they can bat well in subcontinet....so a 1-0 defeat is defenately for england....and then eng will go to SL .... every 1 knows how strong SL are in there backyard....... and they have good spiners...in batting ENG will not be able to bowl them out 2ic on those spining track....so a 0-0 or 1-0 for SL (if SL spiners fails but that is quit dificult as they have good spiners and ENG are very bad players of spin and those track will defenately help spiners better than india).and india's next tour will be in AUS ...... and India always play well aganist them....infact they r the only country who gave chalenge to AUS in last Dacade..this time they dont have good bowlers and india will be there on full force..so 0-2 or 1-3 for india

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:45 GMT

    Some possible team combinations for England- 1) Bairstow opens the innings and keep wickets, Bell in and Borpara in, Kieswetter out. 2) Bairstow opens, Bell in, Kieswetter in, Bopara out. 3) Kieswetter opens, Bell in, Bairstow/Bopara in, Bopara/Bairstow out. With some thinking on the part of English team management Bell would have played in every game. We all saw Bairstow's hitting skills during last tour, had he opened the innings and hit some boundaries he might have gained some confidence to play Indian spin. Also Kieswtter and Bopara don't have any significant contributions for this series and failed miserably. The above combinations may or may not have resulted in success but even in the present situation the English team has no success to show.

  • MHJohn on October 23, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    I realy donot understand why India trying again again with Partiv Patel...... Robin Uttahapa is far more better player than him.Not only him India have a lot more player better than Partiv Patel. Is there any politics ......or not.....

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:42 GMT

    Hah, what a fluke from India. England are missing all their top players: WG Grace, Ian Botham, Len Hutton, Harold Larwood, Sir Don (he might have become an English citizen and started playing for the team--you never know), Jaques Kallis (he's just a South African and therefore an English cricketer), and Graham Napier. I bet that the aforementioned players would have butchered this Indian team--maybe even in India. And the BCCI is also cheating in unison with God, altering the conditions against the mighty English team. When England bats first--granted, it's their own choice ... but still--the dew is such that it determines the outcome of the game. When England chases ... err, I'll come up with some reason, eventually. And what more? These tracks so terrible. No, actually, satanic. Cricket is considered cricket only when it's played on the divine pitches of the Mighty United Kingdom. Well, I recant: It's only considered cricket if the mighty "English" team expunges the opposition.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    England were never playing spin, except some good(!!) players who were ready to graft, sweep and score in singles. And one such player Ian Bell, is sitting outside, watching his team being steamrolled by a quarter strength Indian team. Can we now call the English team Tigers at home? Even with Broad and Anderson, England would still have face the same fate. A series Brown wash in the not so distant past was averted due to happenings outside the field and that team was quite full strength English team. Indian performance in England in the ODI series was definitely not this bad, to say the least. And the Donkeys are now thoroughbreds and the thoroughbreds have suddenly turned worse than donkeys........poor Naz Hussain. India gained the no:1 test status from the almighty Aussies, who were on the decline due to losing class players. England has snatched it from India, it remains to be seen how long they can hold on to it. Let's admit, both teams are good, on their turf............

  • IndiaNumeroUno on October 23, 2011, 19:34 GMT

    I was arguing that India were defeated in England only because none of the ODI's really completed to all the 50 overs - due to rain... I think English fans might have a similar argument now because looks like the ODI's in India too are not being played to all 50 overs - but this time due to inept English batting!!

  • bigwonder on October 23, 2011, 19:34 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke, Yawn, another lame excuse by England fans. Their bowlers are green pitch bullies and can't get 10 wickets in any other conditions. First it was toss - but England has been winning the toss for the last three ODI's and they still can't win. England fans, this is a No Whining zone and no winning zone for you.

  • NaniIndCri on October 23, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    poor English fans, desperate to come up with excuses... try hard guys.

  • partha132 on October 23, 2011, 19:32 GMT

    @Trachiniae I wished there were more englsh fans like you....

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    Team Indian plays to be on top at the end and England plays to beat India. Thats the major difference. Remember if you are in race of win and lose never try to beat your competitor just try to win the race. Gud luck to both the teams.. Cheers !!! - Tathastu Sharma (Noney)

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    @Philip Katon - To be honest, the worst detractors during the series in England were we Indians ourselves. However, some English made a good use of the opportunity to direct some taunts towards the Indian side. Hence, all these comments which you see here. Regarding your question, yes there were quite a bit of Indians who were in awe with the English performance, and also wished the Indian team to emulate them. It shouldn't be much difficult for you to surf thru the comments section of articles written during the England tour.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    Advertisement from ECB: Looking for more talented U-19 players from RSA, Ireland, Pakistan etc who can play spin. Talented players will be rewarded with English citizenship.

  • Judgejude on October 23, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    Well done Team India for a fantastic display of solid good cricket in the four ODI's beating England comprehensively, and looking ahead to 5-0 whitewash. Team England have been thoroughly beaten by the number one team. Shame on England for their shoddy performance on the field, lack of a cohesive team spirit and a desperate failed attempt at trying to upset the opposition by their 'antics' on field.

    The recent series in the summer in England was plagued by weather interrupted matches, D/L tainted results and an Indian side which was more an Indian XI side minus the injured star players. England has nothing to be proud of the results in summer when they have not played against the fully fit Indian side with all it's main player's.

    Let's face it, England-don't be sore loser's, show the cricket fan's your capable of a bit more than that...

    Well done Team India, Dhoni and the rest of the team. Keep up the splendid job of dishing out white wash defeats to overated teams..

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    England gave us unfriendly,extremely green pitches that suited their kind of bowling.Their team was at full strength.And were preparing for India series from ages as they have confessed themselves.And then defeated a tired, overworked, injured India "A" team.Where's the pride there. We provided them with good batting pitches that has something for everybody.Even then our inexperienced young team without (8 players)sachin,sehwag,yuvraj,zaheer,ishant,munaf,harbhajan,sreesanth,defeated them and remember we have one more win coming!! What a pity England are comparing themselves with Aussies.So desperate.

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 23, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    @Asim Rao: Totally senseless comment by you. Why bring in pitches here ? what do you think a HOME ADVANTAGE is ? England too beat India IN England. But still nobody questions the prudence of seaming and grassy wickets !!! WOW ! what double standards ? I am afraid to say this but slow and low pitches with spin ARE the conditions of INDIA. England HAS to adapt and out maneuver India in order to win. They never did it in the past and so far this series they are down 4-0. The next game could also be similar. So don't blame Indian conditions, blame your team England. Is it fair enough to say England are WEAK in Indian conditions ? I say all this while acknowledging India's inferior performances in the tests during the summer.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    From now on BCCI should seriously think ten times before inviting English team for ODIs. Indian team is so overworked that they can afford a nice break rather than playing one-sided contests against such a poor team. English batsmen have no idea about spin, do everything from shuffling across to dancing down the pitch but still are unable to rotate strike leave alone hitting boundaries, and could only manage watching in horror either the ball hitting their stumps or a mistimed shot being caught safely. With all the Patels, Dernbachs, Swanns and Bresnans their bowling doesn't have the potency to claim 10 wkts and their fielding is setting new standards in Nasser Hussain's DONKEY-ISM. Team selection also defies logic, with a player like Bell sitting and Bopara being persisted with despite failing again and again. Meaker bowled well today and should have been played right from the series opener in place of Dernbach. Atleast in that case this series would have been a competitive one.

  • Sakthiivel on October 23, 2011, 19:15 GMT

    Well done India. Ashwin is getting better and better every match his Economy of 3.80 with 10 over really superb. Kohli is also become a mature batsmen. But Raina is throwing his opportunity of making 100's.

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    @ Waves Muthu -As an England fan i whole-heartedly accept the win for India, and accept Eng just are not good enuf in India. I don't remember any Indian's saying the same a few weeks ago abt England. Eng don't have the power game necessary on the sub-continent. It's a shame their isn't a test series tho, cos i believe india r inadequate against decent teams in the most important format..Sorry but true...Btw India r, and always will be my 2nd team-lived in Delhi (T. Puri) for yrs.

  • Trachiniae on October 23, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    BUT... to the IND cheerleaders on here - England's test no.1 spot was not won entirely this summer - it was earned over 4 years' of graft: in Aus, in SA, in India (a close series in case you'd forgotten, won by IND thanks to a declaration and the genius of Viru); and yes, in England.

    OK, I'm proud of it - for just the same reasons you were proud of your no.1 spot. You won it over 4yrs from a dominant Aus at the end of its reign - we did the same to you. Deal.

    Who'll enjoy it for longer? I dunno - I certainly don't think we're any 80s WI. So far as I can see, there's not a lot to choose between the top 3/4 when you take home & away into account - while the 3-0 ODI vs IND was a freak, the 4-0 test result was not - over nearly 20 days, it can't be. And your home ODI performance proves how lame your injury excuses really were. The fact is, your big guns didn't show (pace Dravid)

    So, for this series my pride is hoping for 4-1, but I won't be betting on it. And for Autumn 2012 tests? 1-1

  • vikram_cricfrenzy on October 23, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    I DONT KNOW WHY U GUYS ARGUING HERE THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THT ENGLAND CAN NEVER BEAT INDIA IN INDIA EVER IN THERE DREAMS ALSO. COMMON THESE POMMIES LOST TO BANGLADESH AND IRELAND ON SUBCONTINENT. HAHAHAH AND WELL IN ENGLAND AN UNFIT INDIAN SIDE WITH SO MUCH OF CRICKET PLAYED IN THE LAST ONE YEAR INJURIES FATIQUE ETC VICTORY WAS NOT GONNA BE SO EASY. NOW THT THE TEAM IS FIT LETS PLAY A 5 MATCH TEST SERIES IN INDIA UR GONA SEE A WHITE WASH BOYS. EVEN IF WE GO TO ENGLAND WITH A FIT TEAM WE WOULD TRASH THEM

  • on October 23, 2011, 19:02 GMT

    well done team india......a nice victory again.......Aaron blowed well... but i still think isant sharma is the bowler which india should look after well...after zaheer he is the man and main sphear head of indian bowling......if he is fit and well rested he will bowl constantly over 145 to 155...... and with his hight and deadly inswinger a very deadly bowler.....just hope that indian selector will handle him well..... i will bet in australia 2011-2012 he is the man who will be the star of aussie colaps.....just rest him and play him in inportant match...dont over play him...... aganist weak oponent try some new bowler like aaron ...jadav...etc................

  • Haleos on October 23, 2011, 19:02 GMT

    @Vinard Fernando - absolutely my friend.

  • Haleos on October 23, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty - India is wothout Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvi, Zaheer. Ur mr board would have been flayed to all corners had he been here. he was ordinary even in odi series at home. And Anderson is useless if the pitch does not help. dernbach was there till aslt match clobbered. So zip it up and drown ur sororw in the pub.

  • premjack on October 23, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Well done India. You are worthy of being world champions. England players behave like a petulant child. At least in ODIs India came very close to win all the three played ODIs in England. Whereas England are being thrashed properly by the youngsters and the future of India. Anyway, good to see Aaron capable of reaching 145 kmph! keep it up.

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 23, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    One of my friends SWOMBATS said before the start of this series that India have NOTHING to beat England with. I think he innocently committed a typo. He should have phrased it "England have NOTHING to beat India with". And it's true, England have NOTHING. England are a disgrace to the 50 overs game. Steve Finn to a certain extent is my pick as the most promising player in the future for England. Sledging aside, I think he's a class act as a bowler. He should play in all 3 formats. Paul Collingwood is sitting in the studio commentating. Seriously, Colly would have played better than Bopara, Patel, Kieswetter and Bairstow. Good going India. Hope we see similar strides in tests.

  • Haleos on October 23, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke - another proof england are ordinary in ODI. Why do eng fans make so much issue of weather, dew, pitch etc. accept ur team is outplayed. this is what is home advantage. thanks mr strauss for reminding us during our series in eng.

  • Raman.UV on October 23, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    england r really missing BELL, BROAD n ANDERSON. they need Strauss back cos he is very good at rotating strikes along with bell. only both the south african middle order kp and trott looked good in the whole series. hope they find a good combination for there next tour to sub continent. still i feel they r good as bowling unit as they do pretty good job in patches.

  • ravi_shankar88 on October 23, 2011, 18:55 GMT

    @rohit kumar. I agree with u 100% .true that we indians support our team in only winning tournaments but not always whn our team lost a match or series,like the team needs our support desperately instead we start bashing the legends our of indian cricket like sachin,zaheer,dhoni...etc.

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:54 GMT

    I was very disappointed by England today and it seems that while we have improved so much in the test format we have I feel probably regressed in the OD format and that the performances in winning the OD series in England , the 2 warm up matches here and the 3rd ODI in which we lost were false dawns. I put on another thread that I thought it was ludicrous to drop Swann and I wonder if there was something more behind his exclusion. I also said that I thought Bres should have been dropped/rested and Borthwick come in and Bres played well today and Borthwick seemed unable to exert any pressure with the ball. Meaker was a ray of hope but today our batsmen let us down. With exceptions of Craig who was out to one which lept low,Trott and Bres , none of our other batsmen could get to grips with the pitch -inc KP desp 40+. 2 things England must improve on are for our bowlers to practice their yorkers and for our batsmen to practice their running between the wickets which was woeful. No urgency

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    what is up with these India England white washes... they need to play at a totally foreign ground to see who is better

  • gozmuz on October 23, 2011, 18:52 GMT

    In Lawn Tennis sometimes the game is played on clay court (french open), sometimes on grass court (wimbledon). but in none of the cases have I ever came across sports journalists counting clay court as inferior to grass court or players who win on clay court as inferior to those who win on grass. Why in cricket journalists and commentators do not give India the due when they win at home pitches ?

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:51 GMT

    asak this same indian team play 5th ODI in England..and result will be in the faver of England.. This is Pitch Oriented cricket...

  • Raman.UV on October 23, 2011, 18:50 GMT

    Nice to see maturity shown by Raina when Finn showed his anger in the form of words when he bowled him. its the quality of great players like sachin lara and others which is missing from kohli. hope he learns it soon as he has all the ingredient of future great. coming to varun, nice to see an indian to clear the tail of england quickly which the pk n vk were not able to do. hope he and umesh can maintain there fitness level. v need such bowlers alongside zak ishant pk nehra and rp or munaf, rather than having vk aravind and mithun. vk might be good in ranjis but in highest level he is just an ordinary bowler.

  • Trachiniae on October 23, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    From a disappointed English fan. No excuses. Congratulations. India are a force to be reckoned with on home turf and, I honestly believe, in ODIs anywhere. Though your legends deserve our respect (and yours!), I hope you take the chance to move on from the glory days of ST,RD,SG,VVS and build a platform. Your "injury-ridden" ODI team is exciting to watch. The 3-0 in England was freakish, with injuries, weather and the toss working to our advantage. I winced every time the Sky cheerleaders announced an English limited overs revival, and was not in the least bit surprised by the WI win at the Oval. We have some talent; we are not over-rated; but we have long way to go. And I do care about ODIs. TBC...

  • vjndr4u on October 23, 2011, 18:47 GMT

    Varun rocked england's tail otherwise their score could have been around 260 - 270 because bresnan can bat and also their other lower order batsmen like finn can bat a bit. He bowled a bit slow (140-145) on debut to get the line right otherwise he is capable of clocking above 150 kph. His fastest ball is 153 kph till now.(check on youtube).

    Nevertheless he bowled superbly. The one which took bresnan was awesome delivery.

    England are on the verge of losing consecutive 5-0 loss on indian soil. Last time kevin pieterson side was beaten 5-0 by india. And before that Rahul Dravid captained indian team thrashed them by 6-1. Its a real shame.

    Englands scoreline in last three series: 5-0, 5-0, 6-1 . They are worst than newzealand or west indies.

    They beat an injured indian test side in england and they thought they are the best but they never played a fully fit World No.1 indian side. Only a fit ZAK could have made a huge difference because he was the most skillful bowler on either side.

  • samincolumbia on October 23, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    3rd string Indian team once again proves too strong for the bestest team in the world!! HAHA...

  • voma on October 23, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    This tour has been disapointing , theres no denying that .But theres no need to change things to much in the England ODI team .This is a very young team , totally inexperienced in playing in these conditions !! . Without Morgan or Broad it was allways going to be a tall order to win in India , Finn and Bresnan have both played well . So there are some positives , if anything this is good for England . We dont want to get to confidant , look what happened to India when the toured England .

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @Vinard Fernando - Fans in England was saying this series was a huge deal BEFORE the series started. Maybe England could have risen to 4th or 3rd with a decent result but it's hardly like a series where one team is trying to take the other's number one spot. It didn't mean a big deal that we won the OD series vs India in England either. But I admit that India are the better OD side. No sour grapes here.

  • RajuallenEmanuel on October 23, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    Revenge Of The Fallen... Its SUCKER PUNCH Time:-) Its India Who Will Have The Last Laugh:-):-) If England are world class swing bowlers then y can't they Swing the ball in indian conditions??? Wer Yadav nd Varun Swings The Ball Along side Of Kumar's.... Its Show Time For India 2 Show The World Wat we are capable of doing in the Fast Bowling Department...

  • yorkshirematt on October 23, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    Another utterly pathetic performance. Doesn't surprise me much tbh. England have always struggled in ODIs and in India. Put the two together and you have a disaster on your hands. Not sure i like this England team now as much as I did this time last month, with their pathetic behaviour on the pitch. India took their humiliation in England on the chin but England seem to be lowering themselves to the behaviour of Waugh era Australia without being anywhere near as good. And that's without the main protagonists Anderson and Broad. Finn was the only one with any class.

  • maddy20 on October 23, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    Sore losers making excuses. Oh Matty Matty. Yeah sure mate. Include the likes of Botham as well. Only Broad and Morgan are our due to injuries. The rest of them are not there by choice of ECB as opposed to the case of India missing Zaheer, Ishant, Munaf, Sachin, Sehwag and Yuvraj to injuries. They cannot even bat out fifty overs and jokera like Tony Greig, Vaughan predicited a 3-1 for England! LOL :D

  • krici_lover on October 23, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    India had only one poor tour to England in last decade. But england has been worst traveller to India. Never won any series after 1984. While Indian record has been far better if someone genuinely analyses overall track and sees beyond last illfated series

  • IPSY on October 23, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    I had a good laugh when England was playing India in England and doing extremely well, under English condition's; how Gower and Bothom kept on quizzing their overseas counterparts as to where their team fits into the all the time best team list! It sounded so outrageous that these men were trying to compare their team which was beaten by No 8 ranked WI in the WI; had not beaten anybody on the subcontinent, except Bangladesh; had not beaten South Africa in South Africa, etc., with West Indies team of the 80s and Australia of the 90s! These were teams that showed invincibility for decades. Can anyone compare a team that showed a little form (against seasoned mediocre opposition) for a mere two months, with legendary teams, all of which contained most of the greatest players of all time? Since 2008 the standard of international cricket is the lowest it has ever been. All sorts of records are being broken. England's record would be 'the team with the shortest reign at the No 1 position"!

  • krici_lover on October 23, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    No team can remain on top forever. As allround great australia and west indies could also not remain. The strength of a team lies in the fact how long can they remain on top. India managed to remain on top for two year before ill-fated england tour. But I am sure this England would not remain on top for two years provided they play sufficient tests abroad.

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty - Please don't come out with excuses for our woeful displays. Only Broad and Norgan were unavailable through injury and the Indians have had the same probs with Sehwag , Tendulkar , Zaheer amongst others out. No offence bud , but I've been slating the Indian fans on these boards for coming up with feeble excuses and defend our English postees saying that they accept defeat for what it is and then you go and post similar rubbish to what they post and now they'll cite your views as representing the English fan.

  • SnowSnake on October 23, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    India should replace Dravid by Kholi (in tests). At 38, Dravid does not have much to offer than Kholi at 22.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    @Rohan_K - Erm I actually say I'm being sarcastic mate (in the post) Just a jibe back at all the Idia fans who claimed every loss they had in England was a moral victory. Home conditions are home conditions,. And no split series I've ever seen has shown the polarising effect of home conditions more than this one and the one that finished 4 weeks ago in England. India can't play swing and seam, England can't play spin or control wristy batsmen. I think anyone who denies these points has been living under a rock for the past 4 months.

  • krici_lover on October 23, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    Thank God International cricket is not about just one series. Had it been true, English fans would have refused to play any further after their lucky win this summer. This trip of India has beginning of end of England. Shame this series has got only ODIs. If there had been Tests as well, all wrong perceptions about supremacy in test cricket would have also been cleared.

  • Rakim on October 23, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    People lets respect Indian's victories. They are doing a great job, same as did England. They are simply better than English. Respect :D

  • Rakim on October 23, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    Kohli and Raina are pure class, and am Pak fan. And hey what's fuss about Varun Aaron? he's a mid 80s mph regular pacer. Although Wasim said he's good, but I didn't notice anything special about him.

  • krici_lover on October 23, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    English fans are left with nothing but to live in the past. They can spend their whole life cherishing India's pathetic tour this summer. If Indians also start referrring to past then it would become very agonizing for English fans. For the time being England has never won any series in India since 1984. English fans are welcome to check the records of India in england in last 25 years. LOL.. The last series was just an accident.

  • sachbak on October 23, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty what are you on about 8-4? am glad india is thrashing england 4-0 even though they are without sachin, sehwag, yuvraj, zaheer, munaf, ishant, sreesanth rohit sharma. and please don't even think of mentioning anderson, he has clearly been dropped as they know he would have got a battering in india and they didn't want him to be mentally damaged, remember the world cup where not only india but also minnow teams took him to the park? and then got dropped halfway through the tournament

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    @Ravi Shankar - all I've heard from the majority of Indians is excuse after feeble excuse as to why India lost in England in both formats. There may have been the odd one or 2 who didn't but the vast majority have been very ungracious about it. Most of the comments I have read from regular England fans have basically said it like it is. We excel in the test arena and while we are capable of doing the business in the OD format we generally speaking suck at it. Maybe when someone else posts nonsense about English fans not accepting defeat gracefully they could give several examples of postees/posts which back up their accusations. It is human nature to criticise your own team more than giving credit to the opposition - when it's usually a combo of both but as I said please show examples of ungracious behavious by our fans on these boards

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:23 GMT

    @paul i thought eng should have bowled first just learn to accept defeat and to all english fans and teams change ur tactics just opening ur mouth wont win u matches and dont speak about pitches first u dint give us our type of wickets in eng we still gave u mahali and delhi which were not turn freindly

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    England win in England, India win in India. Let's try a neutral venue now

  • cool2cool on October 23, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    @ OhhhhMattyMatty: Are you a computer programmer? You seem to copy-paste the same comments again and again and again…... And one thing, why only the 2011 matches? Let's start from the first match that was played between India and England… :)

    @ Paul Rone-Clarke: Slow dead pitch, really? And then why England couldn't batted their quota of 50 overs? And dew in Mumbai in October? I must have been watching some other match then.

  • jaytirth on October 23, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    Moral of the story: We cannot play there and they cannot play here.

  • Aussasinator on October 23, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    England has been given an old fashioned hiding. And that too by a young team India without the stars. Imagine what would have happened to England had Varun Aaron and Umesh Yadav had bowled in the ODIs at England? I now feel Aaron or Umesh should be given a try with the new ball instead of Vinay Kumar. The bustling pace can touch 148 -150 with the new cherry with bounce too. The experiment is worth a try.

  • Deepfreezed on October 23, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    Once again shows that England is completely out of their element when not playing on English lawns with duke balls. Considering how many tours England had in the sub-continent Vs other teams playing on lawns, England should do better. Also, what happen to sportsmanship? Is it only the other teams that should behave like gentlemen?

  • jaytirth on October 23, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    I wonder what would have been the victory margin if Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Munaf and Nehra had played.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    @Paul Rone Clarke.. Sir, Cook opted to bat first .. May be he wanted to bowl with the wet ball and call it a reason for the defeat..

  • dicky_boy on October 23, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    And shame on the supporters who go on about Morgan lol a player who played for ireland in the 2007 world cup , take others players that's all u people can do lol

  • likeintcricket on October 23, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    The way both teams thrash each other at their home only shows their true standard. That is why I don't rate them very highly as compared to South Africa and Australia. On one side Aus Vs S. Africa matches are so contesting and enjoyable to watch and on other these matches are so dull for a neutral observer.

  • dicky_boy on October 23, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    Our scores in England 275, 23overs 188, 234 (from 50 for 5 ) , 280 and 300 Now England in India 162, 236,299,220 lol and on Indian flat pitches oh Matty Matty Matty Matty Matty Matty Matty enough of excuses all those players were dropped for being thrashed lol we are not playing 7 of our world cup winning team GET IT WORLD CUP WINNING SQUAD lol sry u did not win one u will not get it

  • sabina2009 on October 23, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    So India proved again that they are a superior side on their home soil but elsewhere they are just one of the minnows.

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    @kitten - Bell has proven time and again that he is no better in this format than any of the players we have out there. He would more than likely have done the same as our middle order as in wasted a lot of balls before getting a mediocre score before getting out. Check his OD stats out for yourself if you like.

  • Sam07121992 on October 23, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    I am desperate to see England loose 3-0 in tests seriesin india next year..

  • Sam07121992 on October 23, 2011, 18:12 GMT

    where r the English Media???? comme on....u michael vaughan and nasser hussain!!! Where the hell r ur donkeys????

    oh! they r in the English Dressing Room....

  • JG2704 on October 23, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    @RFeynman - Who knows whether any of these have sledged/misbehaved or not in the past. I have read many great sledgimg quotes , mostly between Aus and England but one was by Viv Richards and surely if Lara. Akram and Sachin are defined as great then so should Viv. Also I'm sure Wasim would have said or done something in the heat of the moment too.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    england supporters are like cry babies. If you can't play in other conditions than stop playing cricket. Cricket is global. And india is new home of cricket. Like it or not, We are enjoying it to the maximum. :-D

  • HiyerNHiyer on October 23, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    I think we should definitely take Umesh Yadav, Varun Aron, Mithun, Ishant along with ZAK, PK and Munaf to Austrailia. That would do these blokes a world of good and give our bowling some bite. I wonder what would have happened if we had played either Varun or Umesh instead of RP in the tests. BCCI pls nurture youngsters with raw pace. you still have two onths to get in a left arm quickie

  • playitstraight on October 23, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty - u can tell england to take all those players in the england team right now and make it a 20- man england team v a 11- man indian team and INDIA WOULD STILL WIN!!! And hopefully u know that India r without Yuvi, Sachin, Sehwag and Zaheer! So England r losers in ODIs and will always be unless they play in their own stupid English conditions where they can perform some "magic" with the ball, because our Indian bowlers can bowl well anywhere in the world regardless of the conditions. Be it the flattest of wickets, or the most bouncy wicket, or even the seamy and swing conditions, our bowlers will take wickets and Varun Aaron, the debutant, proved that today! India has some very good "INDIAN" talent while England has some "ENGLAND" + some "SOUTH-AFRICAN" talent as well. LOL!

  • kriskini on October 23, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    India might have failed completely in England this year. But India's greatest achievements in cricket has come in various countries 1983 world cup in Elgland 1985 Word Chanpionship in Australia 2007 T20 world cup in South Africa 2011 World cup in Subcontinent.

  • HiyerNHiyer on October 23, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    Put on the coloured clothes and its not just Raina but the entire Indian team that feels and fields different. Cmon India. No wonder that we are teh champions in the shorter format of the game. Guess what, No Sachin, Viru, Yuvi,Rohit, Yusuf, Bhajji, Zaheer, Munaf and still we managed some convincing wins. Way to Go India

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    where are nasser, vaughan, etc. etc.

  • Jaga2011 on October 23, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    Glad to see the english team brought back to reality after all the hooplah post the series of wins in england. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Time will tell for sure!

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    @OHHHMATTYMATTY dude it takes gut to accept the bitter truth, we are thrashing you like donkeys in the field even we are without our world beating team. We are just playing with our D grade team. And even you cannot win don't give excuses. Just accept your loss. And one more for this braying English Donkeys (As the reply of Mr. Nasser Hussain) we will field 11 school going lads in the last ODI and I bet with that team also you people are gonna be humilated like this again and again.

  • Gupta.Ankur on October 23, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    I couldn't believe eng were so poor even 2day.....i really don't see them ever winning a series in sub-continent (test/odi's) and neither do i see them winning a WC....

    They really are only above bang , WI.....

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    Next Year At the ICC Annual Awards Ceremony Best Onfield Sledger - Steve Finn. Tim Bressnan, Graeme Swann, Samit Patel

    The winner is Steve Finn.

    Two Days Later - Greme Swann in his book "Finn learnt to Sledge under me he was no way entitled to get the Best Onfield Sledger Award.

    It seems the English Players are now trying to be number in Sledging than in cricket.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    hahaha england. i wish bangladesh was here. That would have been more competetive.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Great to see India wins again. But the most frustrating thing is the start of Indian openers giving. No decent starts and no aggression. Common boys, you are playing in India under favorable conditions. Think about how you can manage in Australia.

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    hahahaha where all those eng mouths which were opening every minute in july aug sept to call yourself best in world you have to good at every format in every condition which eng is nowhere near too

  • jit_cric on October 23, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty: Well done India without Sachin, Sehwag, Yuraj, Zaheer, Munaf and Nehra. Be ready for 5-0 clean sweep. Even Bell, Anderson, Broad can't help you out of this situation. N the other names Dernbach and Swaan they have been playing for 4 matches but they have done nothing other than giving an attendance on the field. So stop crying OhhhhMattyMatty. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Soooooooo Sorrrryyyy..

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:01 GMT

    Wow,some really ungracious winners amongst you Indian fans.I think some of you are imagining things,I don't think any of us England fans stated we are an invincible team.India are a better one day side than England,they are world champs and have whitewashed Eng in the last two series before this one in India.Although I did hope that under Flower they would at least make the series competitive.Sadly they have been completely outclassed.England are a better test side than one day side,but even so,it will be a massive challenge for them to win a test series in India.

  • Deepakrm on October 23, 2011, 18:00 GMT

    I Think England Team Is Eagerly waiting to go back to England.... They know well in advance they are going to sweep the series by India... By luck they won the one day series in England... Now it's proving....

    Cheer Up England... Mr Cook... Let Cook a Good Supper for your Teammates...

  • on October 23, 2011, 18:00 GMT

    nice to see a strong comeback from India after the pathetic loss in England.. healing the wounds in style.. ,

  • balajik1968 on October 23, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Great bowling by Finn,with good support from Bresnan and Meaker, but India had the batsmen to take them home. The bowlers did an excellent job for India. These three guys were the only ones who seemed to have a heart for the job among the English bowlers. It was too much to expect from the rookie leggie, Swann could have proved useful here, you never know.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    lot of ppl say tht india winning in india is not a big deal. if thts the case, then england winning against india in england, tht too a depleted indian side is not a thing abt which they can feel proud abt. right??

  • Nampally on October 23, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    Another win for India in a dead rubber.India is looking to build a Regular ODI team. Parthiv Patel is a WK & an emergency opening bat. He can never be an ODI opener for India with poor fielding. There is Uthappa, Mukund, Dhawan who are in terrific form apart from Sehwag. Why Patel? India is so reluctant to give chances to youngsters in XI.M.Tiwary, Aaron & Rahul Sharma are in the squad but never get a chance. Aaron has been the "Drinks Boy" for last 7 ODI's before qualifying in XI.He showed his dropping was totally unfair with fine>140 KPH bowling with 3 Wkts.Now does Rahul Sharma has to be Drinks boy for 7 ODI's before getting in the XI. M.Tiwary can replace patel as a middle order bat by putting Gambhir to open.Rahul can play instead of Ashwin or Jadeja.Rahul is as good a bowler as either of them. Rahul is also a good aggressive batsman.Alternate is to rest Kumar & play 3 spinners + 2 Seamers.The idea of players being in squad & never getting into XI is upsetting in a" Dead Rubber".

  • samya1980 on October 23, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    india's performance in england is more disappointed than england's in india. everyone knew even before india's england tour that when england would tour india for their 5 odis the outcome would be a 4-1 or maximum 3-2 for india.but everyone expected india to do better in england as a no1 team, even a seriese win was on the card forget a 8-0 humiliation.eng is not a no 1 team in odi and belv me not even in test,they would lose 1-0 or 2-0 in test in india if there would have been a test seriese of 3 from tmro

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Lets see how many english fans accept the defeat. Still there may be few people comin with excuses and saying that india were lucky. If u people really have the spirit of cricket u wil accept the defeat. Anyways india wil wrap up this series. Eagerly waiting to see robin uthappa's assault in t20B-)

  • Rohan_K on October 23, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    @Paul...wat did u guys prepare at the oval odi?? It wasnt flat as it usually was..intfact it was a green top..so why the hell u expect a sporting track...there no moral victory for eng...it just in patches they looked slightly better than a club side.. Home advantage to the fullest just as England does..cheers!!!

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    well am an indian.....I support india with all my heart..... am very happy that we are 4-0 up against england.... wanna say something to all ma indian cricket fans who kinda lost it when we lost d series in england..... though it was a unacceptable loss especially in test series.... but how quickly we forget that the same M.S.DHONI led us to a world cup victory!!!!! so juz a pledge... no matter what..... we shd stand by this team...... true they myt not be the world beaters but thy are d true fighters..... for english fans.... puhllllzzzz for the time being u are d no.1 in test and i respct your team for that but stop comparing urself to great aussies from 00's or westindies from 80's.... u ppl are noway near that.....

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    It is fair. If we cant play on your pitches like you play, you also cant play on our pitches like we play. Spin is part of cricket and we will give you that. You can give us pace but do not crib if pitches do not help you seamers. Go for Swann to perform or stay mum.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:44 GMT

    In tour of england,India gets two awards 1st man of the series -Rahul Dravid In tie match ravindra jadega as man of the match ,both join but something achives, But Eng tour in India, only they can achive is big looses,and COOKs sentance" Hope we will do better in next Odi".

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    Steven Finn is the only positive for England.He has a future.Already 50 wickets in test cricket and now performing well in ODI too..Cant see any othr positives for englishmen..India looks invincible at home..Well player Virat and Suresh !!...And good to see finn giving a pat on the back to virat aftr the game.

  • agam99 on October 23, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    England on their way to get another 5-0. LOL

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 23, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    8-4 to England in this series. All a bit one-sided really. Even though England are without: Davies, Morgan, Bell, Buttler, Broad, Tremlett, Swann, Anderson, Dernbach and Stokes.

  • dicky_boy on October 23, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    Please England if u think Odis are a waste of time stop playing one day games, pathetic at least we were competitive in England with a c team and with rain and d/ l lol and dhoni has kept on saying it rain rain rain

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    hey paul .... i know that u lost .. we could have said the same when we lost to u in ur country ... so ahem ahem u just lost n its going to be a clean sweep

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    @ Paul Rone-Clarke i can understand your frustration but even without dew england can not win , slow dead pitch is nature of India do u want us to throw a seaming pitch for u .... England worst ODI side than zimbabwe , bangladesh and ireland , be ready for 5-0

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    I am sick of the host @NEO CRICKET; Doesn't let Koli or Prasad speak ... someone please let him know that ppl want to hear from these two rather than him!@#

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    @ all England dudes complaining of India's home advantage and slow turning pitches and dew for their losses, why cant you just accept your defeat gracefully? If you think fast, bouncy tracks are all the flavour of cricket and that's where all of cricket should be played and those in India arent worthy of playing cricket and that India are having some undue advantage, you are literally practising discrimination of the different flavours that cricket has. Be passionate towards the game and accept your defeat more gracefully as we did when we were beaten in England.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    u butey Aaron..... the three wicks where superbe i have seen aaron clocking 145+ consistently. iam upset only by his speed otherwise he is fantastic..,, on a flow i would have enjoyed him taking the wikets of established batsmen like K.P..... hope we can see it in next game.. dhoni i request u to give Aaron a new ball he would be dangorous.i thought he would bowl around 144 to 150 but his fastest ball was 145.8kmp.In his early days he was clocking 147kmp to 151kmp, so aaron concentrate on ur speed dont drop ur speed.u.yadav clocks 149kmp i.e his fastest ball.so india has found 2 new fast guns.Now lets wait and see how our selecters handle them.good luck u.yadav and aaron.

  • kitten on October 23, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    Where the hell is Bell? It looks like he has fallen foul of someone somewhere for him to be left out match after match, while England flounder from one match to another. Bairstow is clueless against spinners, and you should have seen his face when he got out today...shock written all over it. I do sincerely wish Bell makes at least an appearance in the last ODI. I am sure he will do much better than some of the others. He may not win the match for England, but will certainly help to put a more competitive score on the board. Here's hoping.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    nice to see a strong comeback from India after the pathetic loss in England.. healing the wounds in style..

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke :; I think Eng won toss and if dew problem was there they had to ball first,poor captaincy again, Eng bat 1st because they remember the 1st odi,can't face indian sppiner in breack down pitch.lolz 5-0 soon

  • devenmakesar on October 23, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Hello, message for alastair cook, he is not yet cookes well to captain ENGLAND, send him to captain series against bangladesh, zimbabwe, kenya , thats okay , bring STRAUSS back, take 3 more players from south africa in english team , 2 more from Ireland, remember kevin o brien ( of his types) , 2 more from asian descent to play in sub continent and only then ENGLAND will win , as they will be mauled by srilanka now that they are wounded in india , srilankans will have them for free, and one more thing 4 more coaches from zimbabwe , like flower as there are none in our ENGLAND

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    well,well...it has happened again..England is once again floored & "dust"ed by team India..India-4 England-0. That is what every Indian cricket fan wished & hoped to happen..& that is also what every England cricket fan knew but was illusioned enough to not to accept it..But i will also accept that India will surely lose to England if there is an award of bad travelers of world cricket by the ICC.

  • CricketLife.net on October 23, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    Another emphatic win for india.

    I just loved the counter attack by Raina.

    .

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    Hows that for a drubbing. India was at least competitive in England ODI's. England looks like a club side.

  • RFeynman on October 23, 2011, 17:16 GMT

    I have never seen or heard great players like Bradman, Lara, Akram or Tendulkar sledge, misbehave or insult their fellow competitors. Yet they are known for their passion, with which they played the game. There is a huge difference between arrogance and confidence. I am sorry but with this series, players like Finn have lost my respect. The guy might go on to become a great bowler for England, but he, at least for now, shown that he is a very ordinary human being. And Raina has showed by not reacting that he is more mature than his counterpart.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:15 GMT

    Varon should be promoted as the hope for indian bowling.he bowled greatly.comeon India make it 5-0

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:13 GMT

    Now waiting for 5-0,England doesn't loose any thing,because they not had any thing to loose, India gain,T20- Ind win,Test 2012( IND 3- Eng 0) is on next year and india will regain their 1st ranking.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:10 GMT

    Yep England's belief in their invincibility is quickly unravelling. This performance allows one to more objectively contextualize India in England during summer: a team that suffered from too many injuries, that found it difficult to adjust to the conditions in which the English thrived and that was displaying signs of cricket overload. I guess the real test would come in any upcoming test series that pits India against England in India. If England is that good they should win in India. Meanwhile for India the exciting news is the discovery of Aaron. He would add a much needed fillip to their bowling but the Indian authorities must handle him with care so he does not go the way of so many others.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    Yawn. Another slow dead pitch - another soaking wet dew covered outfield. Moral victory for England. (/sarcasm off)

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    wow...4-0 .....! today morning some English fans pedicted a 3-2 result...now what 4-1 ?

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    India all de way...lets give thm a taste of their own medicine...

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  • on October 23, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    India all de way...lets give thm a taste of their own medicine...

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    wow...4-0 .....! today morning some English fans pedicted a 3-2 result...now what 4-1 ?

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    Yawn. Another slow dead pitch - another soaking wet dew covered outfield. Moral victory for England. (/sarcasm off)

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:10 GMT

    Yep England's belief in their invincibility is quickly unravelling. This performance allows one to more objectively contextualize India in England during summer: a team that suffered from too many injuries, that found it difficult to adjust to the conditions in which the English thrived and that was displaying signs of cricket overload. I guess the real test would come in any upcoming test series that pits India against England in India. If England is that good they should win in India. Meanwhile for India the exciting news is the discovery of Aaron. He would add a much needed fillip to their bowling but the Indian authorities must handle him with care so he does not go the way of so many others.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:13 GMT

    Now waiting for 5-0,England doesn't loose any thing,because they not had any thing to loose, India gain,T20- Ind win,Test 2012( IND 3- Eng 0) is on next year and india will regain their 1st ranking.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:15 GMT

    Varon should be promoted as the hope for indian bowling.he bowled greatly.comeon India make it 5-0

  • RFeynman on October 23, 2011, 17:16 GMT

    I have never seen or heard great players like Bradman, Lara, Akram or Tendulkar sledge, misbehave or insult their fellow competitors. Yet they are known for their passion, with which they played the game. There is a huge difference between arrogance and confidence. I am sorry but with this series, players like Finn have lost my respect. The guy might go on to become a great bowler for England, but he, at least for now, shown that he is a very ordinary human being. And Raina has showed by not reacting that he is more mature than his counterpart.

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    Hows that for a drubbing. India was at least competitive in England ODI's. England looks like a club side.

  • CricketLife.net on October 23, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    Another emphatic win for india.

    I just loved the counter attack by Raina.

    .

  • on October 23, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    well,well...it has happened again..England is once again floored & "dust"ed by team India..India-4 England-0. That is what every Indian cricket fan wished & hoped to happen..& that is also what every England cricket fan knew but was illusioned enough to not to accept it..But i will also accept that India will surely lose to England if there is an award of bad travelers of world cricket by the ICC.