India v England, 1st Test, Ahmedabad, 1st day

Sehwag century and Pujara give India control

The Report by David Hopps

November 15, 2012

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India 323 for 4 (Pujara 98*, Yuvraj 24*, Swann 4-82) v England
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Virender Sehwag punches one through off-side, India v New Zealand, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 2nd day, September 1, 2012
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Welcome to India. The greeting came from Virender Sehwag and, this being Sehwag, rather than scatter rose petals on the bed he scattered England fielders in all directions with a buccaneering century which brought a rousing start to the opening Test in Ahmedabad. This being India, where Test cricket no longer draws the crowds, there were only a few thousand in the stadium to watch it.

That England recovered some ground by the close of the first day was almost entirely due to Graeme Swann, who, as their only specialist spinner on a chronically slow surface, bore an onerous responsibility and took all four Indian wickets to fall. In the process he passed Jim Laker as the most successful England offspinner in history. Roughly half of them have been left-handers, an advantage Laker never enjoyed in an era when lefties were in shorter supply.

Only Swann, late in his innings, was able to stem Sehwag's progress as he struck a run-a-ball 117, his first Test century for two years. It was a strange first session, dominated by Sehwag, who was adventuresome but far from explosive. His innings was typically more reliant upon eye than footwork as he manipulated the ball with disdain, drove at an excess of wide deliveries and defended only as an afterthought.

He is a character cricketer in the manner of Chris Gayle or Kevin Pietersen, an unconventional batsman with a commanding presence and a style all of his own and, at 34, especially on low, ponderous pitches such as these, he is not quite done yet.

Swann's wickets served to strengthen the conviction that England had erred in omitting a second specialist spinner in Monty Panesar. This is a virgin surface, of lower clay content and with no time to bed down, which threatens to drive the pace bowlers to distraction and turn sharply as the Test progresses. Doubts about Stuart Broad's fitness will have made England especially reluctant to field only two fast bowlers and they will wave all manner of statistics to support their selection but the evidence of the game was against them.

Swann's success was in strict contrast to the mood elsewhere. The only impression England's pace bowlers made was on the footholds. Anderson was wearing his worried expression, his new-ball spell limited to four overs. Broad stubbornly dug balls into an unsympathetic surface, saw them bounce no higher than the top of the stumps and looked at them quizzically as if he could stare it into behaving differently. Tim Bresnan went at nearly six an over. It was a huge toss for India to win.

By lunch, at slip, Alastair Cook pondered whether his elevation to the Test captaincy really was a good idea after all. By the close, Swann had reminded him that in a four-Test series Sehwag's assault was merely the beginning, but a trial by spin still awaits England.

Gautam Gambhir was Swann's first victim after an opening stand of 134 in 30 overs, bowled trying to fashion one of his high-risk carves through point and beaten by a hint of turn and weary bounce. Sehwag had briefly fallen into contemplative mood in mid-afternoon, as if recovering energy for his next assault, when he was bowled, sweeping.

Swann's third wicket the most remarkable of all, that of Sachin Tendulkar who lofted to deep midwicket in an extraordinarily misconceived manner only a few minutes before tea. Finally, Virat Kohli, who had played circumspectly, was deceived in the flight and bowled through the gate.

Smart stats

  • Virender Sehwag's century is his 23rd in Tests and his 13th in home matches. Only Sachin Tendulkar, Sunil Gavaskar and Rahul Dravid have scored more centuries in India.
  • The century opening stand is the first for India since the Centurion Test in 2010. In 20 innings in between, Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir aggregated 605 runs at an average of 30.25.
  • The century opening stand is only the third for India in the match first innings against England. It is also the second century stand between Sehwag and Gambhir in home Tests against England after the 117-run stand in Chennai in 2008.
  • This is the sixth century that Sehwag has scored at a strike rate of 100 or more. In matches since 1990, only Adam Gilchrist has done so more often (7 times).
  • Gambhir has now been dismissed six times by Graeme Swann in six matches. No other bowler has dismissed Gambhir as often as Swann.
  • Swann is now behind only Derek Underwood on the list of most successful England spinners after going past Jim Laker's tally of 193 wickets.

A Gujarati hero emerged for the crowd to applaud. Cheteshwar Pujara, upright and accomplished, was two runs short of his second Test century by the close and looked a convincing replacement for Rahul Dravid in an understated innings, showing a collected manner and good timing. But he needed a let-off on 8 as his gentle leading edge against Bresnan was misjudged by James Anderson, who ran in too far at mid-on.

England spurned three other opportunities. Sehwag was dropped on 80, glancing Anderson, whereupon Matt Prior spilled a difficult chance and Prior also missed a stumping against Gambhir. The most embarrassing drop, though, belonged to Jonathan Trott, who fluffed a slip catch off Swann from Kohli and rolled the ball into the turf before shamelessly claiming the catch in a slightly perplexed manner. The umpires sought replays; for Trott they did not look good.

Gambhir and Sehwag had been an alliance in decline, and fleetingly there were hints of vulnerability, but these were not conditions to ask questions of defensive technique. Gambhir had proclaimed before the match that they were the best opening duo in the country and few would find much cause to question that as India sailed to 120 without loss by lunch. It was their first century opening partnership since India faced South Africa in Centurion in 2010.

Sehwag spoke of playing watchfully,and met by a deep point, he did glide regularly to third man, but his 50 still came in only 45 balls and by lunch he had 79 from 66 with 12 fours and a six. England's pace attack strayed wide too often and runs came at a tempo that Test cricket rarely sees: 50 by the 12th over; 100 by the 20th. Sehwag possessed a hunched, insouciant air that suggested the match was of little consequence and he was just having a bit of a bash.

England calculated that the ball might reverse for Bresnan, as it did as early as the ninth over in a warm-up match on the adjacent B ground, but Bresnan had a dispiriting day, never worse than when Sehwag took him for 4-4-6 in his sixth over, the second boundary, a drag through mid-on against a ball that crept past the fielder verging on the insulting; the six over wide long-on that followed, a full swing at a length ball.

India have never lost a Test at home after beginning with a century stand. That statistic tells England that their chances are already slim. It was all a long way from England's domination of India in English conditions last summer.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 17, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

What Sachin is playing as a bowler now??? Why give him an over when Yuvraj and Sehwag are there?? Our selectors need to grow a backbone and drop Sachin NOW.

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 14:04 GMT)

If the likes of McGrath, Kasprowicz, Gillespie and the West Indians of old could do it, why can't the English bowlers? I'd say because they simply aren't good enough. I don't see why we shouldn't produce rank turners or wickets with low bounce. After all, would the English produce dust bowls for our benefit? The challenge of an away tour is beating a team in conditions that suit them. As for the matches being boring and non-competitive by virtue of the low bounce, I'd just like to point out a lot of people switched their Televisions off when tired of watching the Indian batsmen struggle against the short deliveries on India's tour of England. I remember Ashwin being extremely frustrated in England when one of the pitches gave him absolutely nothing. If the English misread the pitch and chose to bench Panesar, you can't blame the curator.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 16, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

This is the best time to drop 10dulkar. We have no shortage of talented youngsters in India. Why should we play this non-performer? Remember - you play to WIN.

Posted by KingKongIn on (November 16, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

I heard some of the english fans...they were saying its a Flat pitch ...English player can not bat even on Flat pitches lol

Posted by joseyesu on (November 16, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

Eng has some good players of spin - Pieterson, Bell, Patel and has a long batting lineup. If Ind wons, it could be of Eng careless play/pitch damaged/Not yet learnt the Skill of Ashein, Ojha.

Posted by Harmony111 on (November 16, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

@ GloveActually: Loved your handle here...... :-)

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

@US_Indian that is probably the best much ado about nothing comment, its easy to point out mistakes, the writer merely made the reference to Gujarat to highlight that Pujara was playing in front of his home crowd. Please don't try to complicate things here. As for those Eng fans who keep on blaming pitches in India please understand other teams who come stopped using these shoddy tactics, and they have done well here. Look at the recent NZ series they did give us a fight inspite of being young and inexperienced. England has a sad record in the sub continent and blaming the pitches wont change it . I hope they do well this series because this is probably the best English team in decades. The same applies to India when we travel to Engliand.

Posted by VRRK on (November 16, 2012, 5:46 GMT)

Drop Tendulkar for the next test.Time to bring in youngsters who are scoring double and triple centuries in domestic cricket.There is plenty of talent there and why is Tendulkar blocking them ? He should learn from Ganguly, Dravid and VVS, how to exit in a decent way.

Posted by sidvs on (November 16, 2012, 5:46 GMT)

Just listening to the english commentary on Star sports, Its just ridiculous! Very very poor from Ravi, Sunny ,Ganguly..Its just England bashing all the way, its like they are commentating for India!! I wish i could hear some unbiased (Read only cricket) stuff like here on Cricinfo.. this whole series seems as if India is only playing for revenge.

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 16, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

@vjgs u said that england is poor at home and so is india and srilanka can beat india at home to tell u srilanka has never even won a single test match in india let alone a series and srilanka will never beat england at home either srilanka has never eeven won a test in australia and have lost to australia at home twice and to india once and even to england once and england managed a draw in srilanka this time aroundonly rank srilanka deserves is a number 8 zimbabwe and bangladesh on 9 and 10 so why dont u comment n newzealand vs sruilanka minnows section and let the big league english and indian fans comment here and to remind you australia, southafrica,pakistan and england about 30 years ago have beaten india in india and srilanka is yet to win a test match in india so these are not flat picthes these are pitches whedre your players dont have the skill to play on

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 16, 2012, 5:29 GMT)

well these are the kind of pitches in subcontinent its not unfair because picthes in australia and england bounce and swing from day one and soi think if u dont like subcontinent then england and australia should just play each other and i can tell u it will be quite boring since only one side always has dominated for 10 to 18 years in ashes and for @first_slip yes u may want to say that srilankla have sporting pitches is that why u still havnet even won a single test series in england and australia and havent even won a test match in india and australia and if they are as sporting as u say only galle has been the ground to get warning in last 4 years as a tets venue only reason why u are trying to build more sporting wickets is becaue even on rank turners since murali retired srilanka couldnt beqat australia so whats the use when you cant even beat any one on rank turners

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (November 16, 2012, 5:18 GMT)

England have missed a trick by dropping Panesar. The overrated England medium pacers are easy meat on the subcontinental pitches and if they expect the likes of Samit Patel to bowl as a front-line bowler, thats just laughable. Having said that, unless the pitch breaks up on the last 2 days I dont see the Indian bowlers bowling out a lineup with Cook, Trott and Pietersen twice but having seen the odd ball already turning and keeping low it looks like that's exactly what's going to happen

Posted by spot_on on (November 16, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Ball swinging .... Now where are those fellas who talked about the pitch... Pitches in India are the real beauties... If you don't know adapt you don't fall under Darwin's homo sapiens!!!!

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

And Sehwan For your information, pace and bounce in a pitch is GOOD for spinners, especially leg spinners. So a pitch that has pace and bounce is better for cricket generally.

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 4:33 GMT)

Pujara can fill the place of Dravid in the coming days.The pitch looks ideal for spinners.Let's see how our bowlers will perform

Posted by popcorn on (November 16, 2012, 4:24 GMT)

It is a myth that Indian cricketers are good players of Spin. All four wickets that fell yesterday were to Spinner Swann. If India think English batsmen will fall like ninepins to Indian spin and that India will win the series 4 nil,they must be dreaming.

Posted by Meety on (November 16, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

@jb633 on (November 16 2012, 01:24 AM GMT) - I note on an earlier post, you mentioned the match is already lost. You may be right, but if you look at the Oz v Saffa game, Oz was in a worse position at the end of Day 1 (albeit less runs conceeded). This match is still winnable for England. Obviously we'd all rather be in India's position at Stumps, but there is a chance of getting thru the batting. On the topic of certain posters, I tend to try & only debate ones that have attempted some form of logic & not worry about the rest. The latest on Oz sites is that apparantly Oz prepare Green Tops for when India tours & flat tracks for Eng & Saffrica - it's amazing what is said to defend the honour of a tem that obviously gave up in Oz.

Posted by Meety on (November 16, 2012, 4:05 GMT)

@Ross_Co on (November 15 2012, 11:42 AM GMT) - ahh classic! I've had it wrong all along about IndiHammond! LOL!

Posted by kristee on (November 16, 2012, 4:04 GMT)

Pitches where even mediocre spinners could be handy and ones where seamers need some skill have to be distinguished between, in the first place. That a team plays spinners decently doesn't change this. And mind you, cricket is more about fast bowling, if history is to be believed.

Posted by Romenevans on (November 16, 2012, 3:47 GMT)

The series is just started and look at these english kiddos, back with a bag full of excuses. They don't excuse when they serve a green-top backed with rainy conditions. Its so easy to bat huh? Wait for England's turn to bat on this flat track..we'll see how easy it will be lol.

Posted by spot_on on (November 16, 2012, 3:45 GMT)

To all who spray on pitch and conditions... lol.. stop whining and admit that the poms can't play better cricket in any other conditions apart from seaming!!!! Let us see when India take the field.... The ball will reverse in the 11th over and spin like a tornado in the 15th... I bet poms last 60 overs at the max if KP stays on the crease... otherwise it's a 45 over ordeal 1st innings and 50 over second!!!!

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 3:39 GMT)

No point complaining about the pitch, its India, low bounce and some spin are guaranteed. No what is needed is better fielding and more control from the pace bowlers, hopefully we can prevent India getting to 500 and then bat well to try and secure the draw or (rather optimistically) put some pressure on India's second innings. The main thing I worry about is the series being decided by which team wins the toss more often as its such a big advantage on pitches that start spinning on day 1 or 2. I'm not sure either team has the firepower to overcome that advantage.

Posted by Sami_P on (November 16, 2012, 2:45 GMT)

Why is so difficult for the ICC to come up with a criteria to prepare a pitch so that barring natural causes the playing field will be equal for all players on any team. That is the only time we can crown someone/team the true champions, just like in the Olympic's where the playing field is equal to all participants. If ICC does not do that then they should get many different trophies like "2012 World Champion in Fiji" or "2012 World Champion in UAE" or whatever. The way it is right now is just killing cricket. Last night while watching cricket on an Indian cricket site, after an hours play most of them just left and believe me most were Indians.

Posted by Jose on (November 16, 2012, 2:00 GMT)

I cannot understand the whining of English fans about the pitch and spinners. Are you trying to make an excuse for England's possible loss? If your seamers cannot bowl in these conditions, then learn from SA and Austrlian seamers. They know how to trouble Indian batsmen in these slow and dusty pitch conditions also. The greatness of test players is judged by their ability to play well in all conditions. If England can't, they should carry a tag says "Tiger at home only"...

Posted by GloveActually on (November 16, 2012, 1:54 GMT)

I have no clue why England didn't pick Monty for this test. Bresnan was a useless pick on these pitches.

Posted by sgopi on (November 16, 2012, 1:46 GMT)

There are a lot of ppl complaining about the quality of pitch, which is spin and batting friendly. When India/Pakistan play against England, in England the pitches are green top and help swing bolwers, which is the strength of English teams. So then, why can't India produce pitches which play to their strengths? Hence, visting teams need to change their game and only the best will adapt and be competitive. So India fans stop complaining about the pitch.

Posted by Hammond on (November 16, 2012, 1:31 GMT)

@Ross_Co- actually have never said anything except the fact that I am 100% Australian. In relation to the pitch I turned the TV off when Broad banged it in at 85mph- it got up to Sehwags navel. It just is boring. I like spin bowling but spin bowling is only one type of bowler. Wickets in Australia and England can and do turn, and spinners can get wickets in both these countries. In India there simply isn't any point being a pace bowler. Everything that enables you to take wickets as a pace bowler is denied you. And it truly may be a matter of taste but a spinner with men all round the bat endlessly looking for a batpad or leading edge is really boring compared to Dale Steyne testing technique and personal courage on a raging green top. I admit that Aussie (and English) batsmen are not as good at playing spin as Indian batsmen. There is no argument. Pontings average in India clearly illuminates this. But conversely Sehwags average in England illuminates the other side of that coin.

Posted by jb633 on (November 16, 2012, 1:24 GMT)

@ Meety, it just makes me laugh that after one good day we now have a self righteous lion hearted team who can conquer anyone. I mean you watched your boys destroy India and I am sure you will agree with me that it wasn't even entertaining, just like the tour of Eng.To say that our seamers aren't trying is like saying that because Ashwin wasn't turning it in Oz means he wasn't trying. I have no issues with the spinning tracks and result wickets but I hate decks with no bounce. There has got to be just a touch of pace to make things more enjoyable to watch. The Indian problems against pace are rapidly forgotten when they get on a rank turner and we hear nonsense about how they never complained about a green top. I can promise the Indian fans that they will not hear "wait till you play us at home" (Ghambir OZ 2011) from any of the England players at least.

Posted by premclement on (November 16, 2012, 1:02 GMT)

Robert Ramsden, Indians love to spin the ball. Hence we love to watch cricket on a spin track. Whatever you mentioned is applicable to ENG. Why can't they make 1 or 2 spinner friendly wickets? isn't boring to watch bounce all the time?

Posted by moBlue on (November 16, 2012, 1:01 GMT)

david hopps and a few other ENG fans are slowly beginning to see the light! :) yes, that light that you see at the end of the tunnel is indeed an oncoming train, ENG!!! :) it is time for some well-deserved spanking of the payback variety, and i look forward with glee to ENG's "famed" batters capitulating to the spin that even young IND batters like pujara have already mastered!!! :) a perfect reposte to your brand of "chin music" which greeted us last in ENG - which a dravid and a tendulkar knew how to play, anyway. so now it is time for ENG batters to put up as well! good luck, ENG! despite IND's mediocre spin bowling at the moment, something tells me you are going to need it. :)

Posted by US_Indian on (November 16, 2012, 0:54 GMT)

All this blog is fine but I am suprised at the writers use of word Gujrati, why our media persons are so naive and use improper words at improper junctures, why do they have to indulge in cheap methods and segregating people on religious, language, regional or some type of categories, rather they should have just mentioned him as an young indian or local boy which would have been more appropriate and even served the purpose. Can we become indians first and remain indians and can these people who owe a responsibility towards their profession and to the public at large and to themselves learn to be just indians and only indians.

Posted by Sshawn on (November 16, 2012, 0:49 GMT)

with all due respect Barry Glynn.. stop chastising the pitches.. if these are the pitches always prepared for England coming to India how come they never won a test series ? are you saying Eng never won the toss? its been decades since England won the series. So stop complaining Spinners are integral part of the game so just like Indians face difficulty on bouncy pitches so does the Englishman on slow ones.. its that they are not groomed for these pitches and if they lose they dint prepared well..its natural pitch in India .. why not English pitch makers make slow turners to help English man learn how to play in subcontinent..? As far as Sachin is considered just click on his profile on cricinfo and check yourself before commenting .. i am not even going to justify this with my comment

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 0:36 GMT)

How can anybody say docile, flat and slow pitches are good for cricket? Who wants to pay money to watch a match drag on for 5 days and then be drawn and see predictable batting. By all means use home advantage and create turning pitches, but at least give something for the quicks with a new ball!! maybe India should introduce the new SG tennis match ball, then their batsmen can't get hurt and they'll be some bounce for the quicks haha.

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

" It is absolutely right and fair that india prepare dustbowls,how else are they going to win?" HILARIOUS but absolutely true

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 0:26 GMT)

@barry glynn

re tendulkar 8705 out of 15546( more than 50 %) is overseas and 29 hundred out of 51

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (November 16, 2012, 0:18 GMT)

I think being positive here is the key for England. some people are writing them off but when I saw 323-4 I thought okay, that's not too bad. looking at the first hour or so I thought it would be run outs that would take wickets. This is a moribund pitch even by Indian standards. Our batsmen have to0 believe that they are the experienced side out there and most situations are within their compass. This is no time for negativity.

Posted by premclement on (November 16, 2012, 0:17 GMT)

Barry and other pitch whining people, why do you want a pitch with bounce and pace in India? What is the point of having seamer friendly pitches all over the world. Won't that be boring? If all the fingers on your hands are of same length and width, it would be appropriate to have seamer friendly pitch all over the world. Since, even your body is non-monotonous, having spinner friendly pitch in the sub-continent introduces flavor in cricket and good for cricket. If your country men/women do not know how to play spin, then make them learn the art of playing spin but please do not blame the pitch in India. If Eng loose in India, it is not the fault of pitch (poor thing) but the players should take full responsibility

Posted by jb633 on (November 16, 2012, 0:11 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas - don't you think that may be a touch hypocritical considering some of the performances your "lion hearts" delivered in ENG/AUS. Jimmy did not have a good day but he is a good bowler. The boys will be trying but what do you really expect on a pitch that offers less than nothing to the seamer. On these pitches it actually counts against you to bowl with any pace. Just like Ashwin will get hammered in ENG/AUS/SA our seamers will struggle here. No sour grapes just fact. It is no good boasting and hiding behind the dust bowls because you know sooner or later that you will be playing abroad and a pasting will ensue again. India are brilliant on these tracks but truth be told they still have not proved anything about turning real corners (winning away). Eng have proved once again they are inept in these conditions. It is easy to gloat when things go your way but please be more constructive in your crtiticism.

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 0:07 GMT)

The problem is English pacers are no Holding or Kapil Dev. They are poor bowlers and can generate pace only on Pastures. Indian pitches have exposed them well and they will be pathetic during this tour.

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 16, 2012, 0:04 GMT)

@barry glenn , indian curators can produce pitch like you described. But indians are short on average. If ball bounce too much batsman can't score high and game will over in 2 days. So its not fun for spectators. So i think flat pitches won't change in india. It is england job to play in different pitches and master if they want to be called number 1. Blaming docile pitches is bad excuse. Same time if pitch does variable bounce then i will be the first one say fire the curator. if ball bounce chest height short people need to lift the bat all the time and it would be tiresome. So i think docile turning piches are ok. if pitch is same through out the world what is the use of home advantage. I think india is right in having turning pitches. Stop whining and master it. England can. They have short people in trott who can play long inning. Ian bell can play too. It is about temparament when you are outside comfort of home conditions. That separate ordinary from great batsman.

Posted by   on (November 16, 2012, 0:02 GMT)

Day two will be an interesting watch- If India can manage 500+, it puts England on backfoot, where they must do well in the first innings. On the other hand, if English wrap up India under 400, they'll sure feel confident and that opens the test match nicely. I have one eye on Yuvraj, he can accelerate the score when needed, and makes his the prize wicket for England.

Posted by La_Bangla on (November 15, 2012, 23:56 GMT)

I wonder about outrageous appealing by England. To the extent that Broad and gang appealled for LB when ball was cut for single and not even remotely close to pad. Mike Dennis probably had heart attack, if he was a Match-Ref in this test..

Posted by MinusZero on (November 15, 2012, 23:47 GMT)

England will be worried when they bat and Ashwin and Co and sending them down. Good chance India will open with Spin

Posted by Meety on (November 15, 2012, 23:46 GMT)

@ jb633 on (November 15 2012, 22:23 PM GMT) - well said, but it is pointless. For every one you convince there is tens of thousands more with the exact same opinion! == == == The first ball of the match summed up (IMO), everything that is wrong in Indian cricket. First ball in the match bowled short of the length barely reaching the knee is Kiddy cricket. May as well bring in rules like everyone gets a bat & everyone gets a bowl, you retire when you get 100 & your out caught one hand one bounce! I have absolutely no problems with pitches that turn, but give SOMETHING to pacers on the 1st day at least. Otherwise its just kids cricket. I expect this match will meander for 3 days, then move quickly towards a result on the last 2 days. England will want a big 1st innings lead -as I would imagine that chasing anything over 150 on the last day. == == == I have held Pujarra in high regard since his debut, & think India have a good future with Kohli & Pujarra in the middle order.

Posted by BravoBravo on (November 15, 2012, 23:40 GMT)

It is nothing much about pitch, umpiring, bowling, or batting' old hand and new hand. It is just a matter of rejoice for IND as finally they crossed 300+ run mark after years. So did BD and WI. So now it is ENG turn to make 500 runs and they will, match will be drawn eventually.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 23:37 GMT)

The ICC really do need to do something about the state of the pitches India are preparing. This is supposed to be "Test Cricket" but when a batsman can get easily on the front foot knowing the ball isn't going to get above knee high then where is the test in that. The famous battles in history are what gives Test cricket its name. But when the ball bounces twice through to the keeper on a regular basis giving the batsman no test at all then Test cricket becomes a fraud of its name. Fans want to see entertainment, bravery, courage, determination and effort. I feel for the England quicks as it must be so disheartening putting everything you've got into your effort and then getting a pathetic response from the pitch. I almost fell asleep watching the first days play and with their only being one man and his dog in the crowd watching, that backs up my comments that the pitches being prepared by India are not doing Test cricket justice.

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (November 15, 2012, 23:33 GMT)

Why in God's name did England pick Bresnan ahead of Monty? Are they mad?

Posted by Mervo on (November 15, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

There was a funny moment towards the end of Day 1. The underprepared wicket, devoid of any grass to bind it together for 5 days, was leaving deep holes where the bowlers' footmarks were and they wanted the holes filled and new soil hammered in. The umpire called for the soil and then the hammer and a groundsman ran out with a small brush/broom! It was comical.

Posted by barbakanfan on (November 15, 2012, 23:25 GMT)

i think this has the makings of a good test, and we will learn a lot about the technique of English batsman under pressure against a decent spin attach. There's nothing wrong with a home team producing wickets to suit themselves. Whether a game ends in 3 days or 5 days, its upto the visiting teams to adapt and learn quickly in order to compete. England's bowling today was not bad, although it lacked a cutting edge apart from Swann, and its upto England now to show resolve and character to compete after a tough first day, something that India singularly failed to do on their awful tour to England last year (excepting the incomparable Dravid).

Posted by big_cheese on (November 15, 2012, 23:25 GMT)

Mr.Glynn - How do you define 'good' pitches?

Posted by positiveindian on (November 15, 2012, 23:10 GMT)

For Mr f, wondering what Sachins home vs away record was. Granted, he has been poor since last year. But his record overseas and especially against Eng and Aus is awesome.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 23:08 GMT)

The state of the bowlers footmarks on a first day was a sign of the poor quality of this surface, plus the fact that the groundstaff didn't know how to repair the footholds when the umpires asked them to.

Posted by dunger.bob on (November 15, 2012, 23:08 GMT)

England definitely have a lot of work to do to get out of this one, but it's not impossible. .. they can start by taking a catch now and then. .. if I were India I think I would try to bat out all of day 2 except for 40 minutes or so at the end of the day where they could have a bowl and try to knock a few Poms over to set up day 3. They should have 600 or so on the board by then. .. England need to slow the scoring rate down and take wickets. Luckily, the first often begats the second but its easier said than done. ... re the pitch. I agree with those who say a turner can be just as interesting a cricket wicket as a juicy seamer. There's nothing wrong with a spinning deck per Se, but it should last the 5 days if needed. The powers that be know what they are doing I guess, but it does seem a hell of a risk to play an important test match on a brand new and untried square. It wouldn't happen in my country, but conditions here are a hell of a lot different to those in India.

Posted by ImpartialExpert on (November 15, 2012, 23:07 GMT)

We have to wait till the third or fourth day of the test match to comment about the pitch. A first day score of 323/4 does not make it a flat wicket. On a pitch like this fast bowlers do not create catching opportunities behind the wicket. They create catching opportunities infront of the wicket along with inside edges on the stumps and lbw chances. For that to happen batsmen have to play expansive shots due to either loss of concentration or patience. That's where the English bowlers failed. They tried to force a break through. When you are patient it does not mean you are not being agressive. There were too many boundary balls on offer from the pacemen. Test cricket not only tests the temperament of batsmen but also bowlers. When nothing was happening McGrath used to find a way to get a wicket. The English pacemen simply went into complaining mode.

Posted by davidatlas999 on (November 15, 2012, 23:06 GMT)

@Barry glynn dont say that thay will eat you.they think when you ask about a good pitch you are saying about green top.when they cry overseas for there own fast bowler and call there own medium fast bowlers spinner its ok.when you ask for a wicket which support a fast bowler they will stand up against you.common indians its okay you want a win so get a win but for god sack please ask from yours grounds man to prepare a good wicket for your own ranji tropy which support fast and spinner also.look your ranji score cards i mean where the guys like jadeja geting 300 and chawla a fast 100.forgot about rohit,vejay,munkud,and others.if you think you are okay with that then dont shout on your bowlers overseas please the will pay when they go out of your country.regard

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (November 15, 2012, 23:05 GMT)

@Posted by Nish_US on (November 15 2012, 22:39 PM GMT), hahahaha....ROFL. What a post! - 'Hey somebody shove those grazing cattle away.....it's time for some cricket....". hehehehehe.....mint! Just burst out in laughter. Best I've heard in quite some time. And thanks for appreciating my post.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 22:39 GMT)

Hey Tommy,

Are you saying your bowlers have fake bowling averages and they bowl in lawns -

Hey somebody shove those grazing cattle away.. its time for some cricket...

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 22:38 GMT)

What Dhoni wants, Dhoni will get in terms of pitches. But he still has to win the toss. England too would have made merry if they had batted first on that pitch. Theyve been making poor pitches like this one in India for so long, I'm not sure they know how to make a good pitch. I'm an English cricket club groundsman for a living and I could make a better pitch than that one. They've got warm sun, water and if the correct sub soil and loam was used, there is no reason why you can't produce pitches with pace and bounce in India. Problem is, no Indians want that. As great a batsman as Sachin has been, how many of his runs have been scored at home compared to overseas?

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 22:33 GMT)

Hey Tommy,

Can you say the samething if quicks got 4 wickets on the last day?

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 22:31 GMT)

Good post Dravid_Gravitas ---

The greats always found a way - Marshall, Holding - I did not see much of those two, but did watch a fair bit of McGrath, how he held that line outside of off and drew the batsmen into the drive, He did it time and again and at some point every batsment had to do something different than leave it on its way....

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (November 15, 2012, 22:26 GMT)

Sadly, Swann seems to be the only player who is willing to play this test match from the English team. The military medium pacers of England have resigned. Finn is being missed badly by England. He has the pace. Broad is very slow and so is Bresnan. And they lack imagination and the will to grind it out. Anderson is just awful. You need a big heart and keep it in that nagging corridor. Take one ball at a time and give it your all, just like how Dravid does it when the chips are down and was always willing to grind it out, no matter how tough the conditions are against him. Likewise, India is no place for pacers. But that doesn't mean you give up so early without a fight. Attitude and Willingness are everything. Unfortunately, the trio of Anderson, Broad and Bresnan have failed the TEST that Test Matches in the sub-continent put the pacers through. Go get some lessons from Wasim, Zaheer, Waqar, Kapil phaji and Imran bhai as to what it means to have a big heart in these conditions.

Posted by jb633 on (November 15, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

@Ravi Sharkar Prasad, so the Indian fans don't complain about a green top. As sad as I am I have some of the comments here from the perth test @15:27, looks like we're playing on another pasturised cow field where the Aussie seamers will have 8 caught at slip @14:28 my back garden had less grass than this pitch. If the ICC fine us for a Mumbai pitch then why not fine the Aussies for Perth. I know it is sad but please do not play that card as you know full well there were thousands of quotes complaining about the state of the pitches in Eng + Oz. People in glass houses should not throw stones. Yes England are struggling here and will probably lose this game. Is the pitch to blame? No. Is the pitch producing riveting test cricket? Also no. India have been pasted overseas but they are undisuputedly brilliant at home. Considering your own sides struggles and complaints it is best to leave all the trash talk behind and just watch India beat England fair and square on a rank turner.

Posted by La_Bangla on (November 15, 2012, 22:13 GMT)

I wonder about outrageous appealing by England. To the extent that Broad and gand appealing for LB when the ball was cut for single and not even remotely close to pad. Mike Dennis probably had heart attack, if he was a Match-Ref in this test..

Posted by the_blue_android on (November 15, 2012, 22:11 GMT)

To everyone suggesting Tendulkar should retire, why? Apparently he still 'enjoys' his game. So he's gonna go on and play for another 6 years for sure!

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 22:10 GMT)

South Africa missed a trick by not selecting Tahir vs Aus and paid the price - luckily they could come out of it with a draw

Hopefully Eng wont be that lucky with not selecting Monty.....

Beware India, do not be complacent, the game is not yours yet

Posted by VillageBlacksmith on (November 15, 2012, 22:02 GMT)

Catches win matches, eng still failing in their fielding, and bresnan shdnt be anywhere near an international cricket X1.. Monty in this series shd be... If broad isn't 100% fit do not pick him, he cant be in as an allorunder, his batting is now hopeless, if Finn injured pick a fit meaker or onions, not a half fit broad.. How come we know this and the Eng management doesn't? ''Lessons learnt'' was the mantra after UAE & Sri Lanka... Doesn't seem so....

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (November 15, 2012, 22:00 GMT)

Most English fans are filling the posts column with whines and moans about pitch when the simple fact they need to realise is that England got the team composition totally wrong. You can't go with 3-1 bowling combination in sub-continent. 3-1 combination is for conditions that assist pacers. So, England on the wrong foot right from the beginning. It won't help England's cause by barking up the wrong tree. Denial ain't gonna cut at this level. I'm sure there will be some English fans who will agree with me. Test match cricket is test of a player to see what he's got. Our pitches test the pacers like no other pitches in the world. Champions like Marshall, Wasim, Holding, Waqar, Steyn and McGrath came out on top with their menacing pace (Marshall, Holding and Steyn) or imagination (toe-crushing yorkers at will by Wasim and Waqar) or nagging accuracy (McGrath). Others will be left behind as trundlers. Sadly, English bowlers thus far proved to be trundlers when there's no assistance.

Posted by dsig3 on (November 15, 2012, 21:57 GMT)

Seems like poor old Swanny is in for some hard work this tour. He has been resting on his laurels for the last 2 years and letting the fast men do the work. Better hope his elbow holds up because he is going to earn his paycheck from here on.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 21:57 GMT)

Had to admire Swann - the lone warrior, he kept things tight and the indians helped his cause with their bad choice of shots..

Gambhir was living dangerously cutting infront of he stumps and it is destined to happen sooner or later - Shehwag I think was little tired and tried to regroup his energy and played the unconventional sweep shot Tendulkar tried to unsettle swann - a mighty good plan, but executed little too early before he completely settled in ---- had it worked england bowlers would have no one to hide behind

Had to say Kohli's wicket is a true gem of a ball. Kohli was tentative his whole stay and undecided whether to go forward or stay back - and the lengh made get to the front foot, but the turn found the bat pad gap. Had he been completely committed to front foot and defended like pujara, he would have been safe....

All in all, Swann showed his class.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 21:53 GMT)

PraveenKumar and Vinay kumar will be more faster than Bresnan in the same pitch Even Anil Kumble will bowl faster.The warm up matches sent a wrong signal to the England camp that Bresnan is the best English bowler In Inda!

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 21:46 GMT)

Pujara and Yuvi need to survive the first one hour tomorrow morning, just like how gauti & Viru did this morning...

Otherwise a 400+ first innings total will not be good enough......

Gooch, Flower and company must have definitely taken the england quicks to task and the pacers will comeout all guns blazing in the morning.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 21:36 GMT)

Pujara's technique looks far better than others today, but just felt he is pushing into the shots than easing into them on a slow pitch....May be the anxiety to fill in Rahul's shoes for solidity and at the same time score little faster than the wall...

Much promising with his foot work, waiting to see how he performs overseas...

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (November 15, 2012, 21:31 GMT)

India cricket should be fined for this. Shameful pitch, were is the contest for seamers?? Spinner taking 4 wickets on the first day. Pathetic.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 21:29 GMT)

I dont mind runs being made and batsmen dominating but there should be something in the pitch for pacers as well... english fast bowlers who were all over indian batsmen in england were looking like medium pacers in club cricket, swann was the only one getting assistance from pitch and indian batsmen had hard time playing him. comeon ICC get all countries to make sporting pitches otherwise test cricket will b known as home advantage cricket in future...

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (November 15, 2012, 21:27 GMT)

What a pathetic pitch, total road. This is why Indian batsmen have inflated averages, they play on pitches with no grass on!!! Someone paint a zebra crossing on it, it's a road!!!

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (November 15, 2012, 21:25 GMT)

@RandyOz England 2nd Australia 3rd ...Now who's the minnows!

Posted by usernames on (November 15, 2012, 21:20 GMT)

Sehwag was amazing. For me, the highlight was Pujara though. I'm absolutely blown away by his patience, and the ability to adapt to what the situation requires. He was patient at the start (took near 25 balls to get going), accelerated in the middle when Sehwag was on song and no one would have attacked him as much, and then slowed down as the wickets tumbled and we got to the close of play. Excellent temperament, and the right approach. Just hope he can work on his aerial hooks against short pitched balls; he'll be an asset either way. Swann was very good, too. With some proper fielding, we would have been about 6 down. I think we are well poised to cross 450ish, with Dhoni and Ashwin still to come. If we get beyond the 450 mark, I think we would be in a fairly good position--it's just a bit dicey right now, with India having their nose ahead.

Posted by NickeyT on (November 15, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

Having 2 "professional spinners" would help... like Swann & Panesar. Then Patel wouln't be that usefull. So he could be replaced by........ WOAKES. One fast bowler'll have to go then, between Anderson, Broad & Bresnan... Hard choice.

Cook - Compton - Trott - Pietersen - Bell - Prior - Woakes - Broad - Swann - Anderson - Panesar

What do you think ?

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (November 15, 2012, 20:59 GMT)

@ Solid_Snake - we've said it time and time again. Monty is not in the squad because of his poor fielding (see Sri Lanka 2012). Tendulkar would still be at the crease if it was Monty instead of Samit out there. That's the difference...watch Monty try to catch a simple pop up off Mahela and watch Samit setting himself up for Tendulkar's catch...

Posted by dontlikecricket on (November 15, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

Another 100 plus runs and England will be in deep trouble (they are already in trouble though). Playing one front line spiner was a very bad decision. It seems England has not learnt from tours of UAE and Srilanka earlier this year?? If there is issue with Broad's fitness then they should not have played him and instead adding anohter fast bowler in case he breaks down. The matter of fact is you can play his whole test with one front line fast bowler as fast bowler is not likely to have any impact unless if there is a geniune fast bowler!! Cant see Englad scoring past 300 in first and may be 200 in second if they are really lucky!! I know Indian spinners are not as good as Swann or Ajmal but still they will be handfull for English batsmen.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 20:27 GMT)

Tendulkar tried to dominate the only English bowler that was threatening....good plot to unsettle the well set bowler....

Felt he should have waited a few more overs before unleashing those big shots and things would have been completely different.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 20:26 GMT)

Terribly disappointed by India......Not the kind of revenge that could balm the wounded souls... with half the side already back in the pavilion at 300...terribly disappointed

Min 600 in first innings required

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 20:07 GMT)

The England cricket tour to India is in its early days. Yet the whingeing from England, cricketers & media, is well advanced.

Mr Butcher like others from the English media whine a lot. They spoil the cricket.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (November 15, 2012, 20:06 GMT)

Why no Monty there in Eng squad? Monty and Swann both could have easily ripped off Indian batting line up.. & btw if Tendulkar cant make runs even on such a pitch,then God knows when will he start scoring runs.He should leave now respectfully before someone kicks him out

Posted by cool2cool on (November 15, 2012, 20:03 GMT)

@VJGS:If 'India can be beaten at home by SL', why they have not done this for last 20 odd years?

Posted by Sanjayascc52 on (November 15, 2012, 20:00 GMT)

You know I love these comments about how a pitch should be.

Day 1 Green grass and seam for fast bowlers Day 2 & 3 good for batting Day 4 & 5 ball should turn for spinners

Funny I never knew that was in the MCC rule book.

In India we play on wickets with no grass and no seam movement, thats how it is, if you don't like it....tough. The ball should spin sharply from day one. If you're good eneough you'll get runs if not you'll be out simple !!!

Posted by cool2cool on (November 15, 2012, 20:00 GMT)

@Muhammad Usman: The same person scored a triple century against a team at their home and opposite team lost by an inning. So either that opposition can't bat even on a flat pitch or the pitch was not flat.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:58 GMT)

After reading all the comments about "The Pitch" i cant stop laughing...lol !!! When a fast bowler gets his wicket on a green top..we never complain, so why are we complaining now....And i saw some comments about fake batting Gods...well gets ur stats clear...The Cricket Gods Like Gavaskar, Sachin n Dravid proved it time n again in foreign pitches !!! And English Fans, i would suggest you one thing...accept the fact that your Team is not a world class team and there approach towards the team selection will not please even a School Cricket Team...lol

Posted by Plz_Dont_Get_Whitewashed on (November 15, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

Swan was AWESOME !!! (From an Impressed Indian Fan) :-O

Posted by ProdigyA on (November 15, 2012, 19:53 GMT)

@Muhammed Usman - Whats making you so happy man? May b cause Umar Akmal got kicked out even from a domestic team.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:45 GMT)

I woke up looked at the pitch and slept again thank you BCCI for not wasting my time ;)

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:40 GMT)

We have to work hard to take 20 English wickets.

They are not Bangladesh - Virender Sehwag (Indian Basterd)

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:37 GMT)

It should be a real "test" when India goes to Play NewZealand @NewZealand...... Till date i have seen even the big "kings" of India struggle ..... wish India starts producing such pitches here to improve the standards.

Posted by sportofpain on (November 15, 2012, 19:31 GMT)

@Simon Jessup: Please, please watch the game. We really, really miss you when you don't watch. And mighty England will miss your support as well. Might just be the reason they don't win.

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (November 15, 2012, 19:21 GMT)

Something of a comeback by England but unless they skittle India in the morning, which is highly unlikely, we will be staring down the barrel. I do not like to make knee jerk calls for change but why oh why wasn't Monty picked because if they picked Bres for his 'batting' then they haven't seen him bat for a good while. The pitch is flat as a pancake and will crack up so batting last will be interesting.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:21 GMT)

Graham Onions should be thr instead of bresnan

Posted by samincolumbia on (November 15, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

Aussie fans - Can you tell us why the 'greatest' batsman since the Don has an average in the 20's on these FLAT Indian pitches?

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT)

Wonderful entertainment from Viru, an innings from Pujara that oozed elegance & class, a masterly spell of classical off-spin bowling from Swann & yet further proof that, sadly, the time has come for Sachin to walk away while his dignity is still intact: all in all, a fascinating day for Test cricket purists.

It's extremely disappointing to see so many negative comments from my fellow England fans about the pitch: we were given fair warning that raging turners would be the order of the day from Day One of this series. How did the England management respond? By leaving out Panesar in favour of the innocuous Bresnan. Will we ever learn that playing two specialist spinners at *every* venue in India is a glaring necessity?

Equally disappointing was England's fielding: four straightforward chances, the last of which led to Trott's disgraceful attempt to claim a clean catch. The bottom line is that we should have had India eight down at stumps.

Posted by Love_Tanmay on (November 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT)

forgot abt pitches buddy.when our team toured England. They Welcomed our team wid green-bouncy pitches.so,there is nothing wrong if we played at our strength. I must want to say to England that "WEL COME TO INDIA A LAND OF SPINNERS .NOW PLAY THEN PROVE WHO DESERVE WHAT"

Posted by sumit176 on (November 15, 2012, 19:09 GMT)

@muhammad usmaan,,,expected comment from fan of one of the "honest" cricketer in d world

Posted by samincolumbia on (November 15, 2012, 19:08 GMT)

According to the aussies and english fans, the definition of a FAIR pitch is something that their bowlers and batsmen grew up playing and most comfortable with.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 18:55 GMT)

Its time for Dhoni to show how well he can adapt to the situation at hand, this pitch will turn so India need to put as many runs they can on board right now, come out and make 250 in two sessions atleast, and get close to 550-600 plus, and put england to bat for 10-15 overs.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 15, 2012, 18:55 GMT)

England missed a trick by not playing Panesar. Everything is not hunky-dory for India either. For the past 1 year 10dulkar has been a burden on Indian team. 10dulkar is sinking and he will take the whole team with him. It's better to let him go and save the team.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

Swap Kohli & Tendulkar in batting order. Simples

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 18:48 GMT)

Swann 4 wickets, India test

Posted by Stark62 on (November 15, 2012, 18:33 GMT)

How could Cook be so daft and not play PANESAR!!

Eng should forget this match and look ahead to the next fixture but this time, they must drop Bresnan and one of Anderson/Broad, for Panesar and Finn (if he is fully fit).

Posted by JG2704 on (November 15, 2012, 18:30 GMT)

Have to say I was disappointed with Trott trying to claim a catch when it bounced out of his hands/arms. I can't believe he didn't know whether or not he caught it and while I think our players get alot of rubbish thrown at them I'd have to go along with any criticism aimed at Trott re this incident

Posted by JG2704 on (November 15, 2012, 18:30 GMT)

Wow , 245 comments , one team must be doing well. On a serious note , well played India (Sehawag/Pujara). It was always said that it was a good toss to win but the team still has to do the business with the bat. There were plenty of debates going on re England's bowling attack and it seems that they've gone for the wrong options. I'm not really sure why they had to pick Broad - Is he that great that they need to risk him getting injured and leaving us a bowler down? I don't like the idea of going in with only 2 pacemen with our injury record but as Botham said , Ind going in with 2 frontline spinners would give an inclin as to what the pitch would be like. Seeing how successful Swann was compared to our pacers and it compounds it all.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 18:22 GMT)

Ian bell might be happy by seeing the slow outfield. Guess why? He can claim the spirit of cricket after getting run out by saying he thought the ball had reached the boundry:):):)

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

@OzWally,u have to know that definition of 'fair pitch' varies from region to region,by ur definition aus pitches r not fair to be honest bcoz they rarely supports any spinners most of the time,swann struggled there during last ashes,indian spinners struggled there last time so were pak spinners in 2010..and the pre-conceived notion that only those pitches which supports pacers r good pitches r totally wrong,batting was not easy from the very start in this match against spinners,its not india's fault that eng r playing with only one specialist spinners,a pitch which supports spinners and eng attacking with pacers and u r saying its easy for batting in first two session??its akin to india bowling with spinners in aus or eng on first two session..so better learn about the meaning of 'fair pitch' instead of criticizing blindly..lastly pitch will last long enough if india bats but not so sure of eng who starts shivering even on normal pitches in subcontinent..

Posted by first_slip on (November 15, 2012, 18:07 GMT)

@reality_check27, Mate Sri lanken pitches are way better than indian plat tracks, they are more sporting pitches now days specially,

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 15, 2012, 18:04 GMT)

well let me tell u want rank turners are test match palyed in srilanka with australia first test at galle was a rank turner still srilanka couldnt win so that tells u if u play well an apply u can win just like south africa managed a draw last 2 times they have toured india so stop coming up with excuses and for the first test in england vs india england got 474 while india was all out for 286 NS 2 TEST AUSTRALIA VS ENGLAND AHSES IN AUSTRALIA ENGLAND SCORED 620/5 ANDAUSTRALIA BOWLED OUT TWICE SO WAS THAT PICTH FLAT JUST THAT ENGLAND PLAYED WELL BUT IF THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN INDIA WHERE INDIA WILL GET 600 AND THE OTHER TEAM WILL BE BOWLED OUT TWICE THAN IT WAS AN UNFAIR PITCH WHAT IS UP WITH THAT

Posted by cric_fan_ on (November 15, 2012, 17:57 GMT)

After the 1st day the match seems to be in balance with India having bit of advantage over England, for England to take advantage they should try to bold out India as early as possible tomorrow and then try to play till lunch/tea on day 4 leaving India with 4-5 sessions to survive on a turning track. The plan for India should be to make as many runs possible in 1st innings and then challenge England to survive the follow on.

Posted by spiritwithin on (November 15, 2012, 17:57 GMT)

@OzWally..by ur definition most wickets in aus r bad pitch too bcoz they rarely supports spinners,same case with England as well,plz tell me how far the the last match on Gabba pitch supported a spinner?..its annoying to see fans from aus and eng crying hoarse of pitch condition in india when ur pitch r also one dimensional..maybe a good pitch for u means those which supports pacers does'nt matter whether it is assisting spinners or not..regarding Bresnan's bouncer being so low well its a subcontinent pitch which supports spinners,i can also give examples of spinners bowling in aus/eng where they r rarely seen effective enough...when india lost in eng and aus last time nobody gave excuses of pitch condition unlike most english and few aus fans..this is cricket where u r supposed to play on different condition...also the pitch was helping spinners from early on and swann troubled Gambhir,so Sehwag played a blinder alongwith Pujara's innings..

Posted by Dhanno on (November 15, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

Someone goofed up big time! Who had the responsibility to tell Sachin the IPL/CPL tamasha is over..? That he is representing India Indians and not Mumbai Indians (if that is what gets the message across these days). We need to find that person.

And yes no need to try reach strike rate of 100 either (like he did for whole year playing meaningless T20s). This is proper test cricket, he should try playing it that way or give chance to a Rahane, Tiwary etc.

Posted by chugster on (November 15, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

OK lets get some perspective here. England and India are both good sides but neither can claim to be any more than that! England( who i love and support incidentally) are excellent in their own conditions and average in the sub continent.India likewise....although they do look like club cricketers when presented with anything other than flat tracks or dustbowls!England however have won in Aus,NZ,B/Desh and WI and drawn in SL.Indian fans - you CANNOT say the same. So the result of this series will as expected be a win for India.Nothing though can erase the total humiliation England unleashed on them in 2011.Then the 4-0 drubbing handed out by the weak and sad little australian team! On this test -toss is everything and not playing Panesar was dim to say the least.Bresnan is awful and Broad seems to have 9 lives.Finn should replace him unless he steps up! It is absolutely right and fair that india prepare dustbowls,how else are they going to win? England -show some bottle!

Posted by ImpartialExpert on (November 15, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

The Indian batsmen were out of form and were under pressure. If the English pace bowlers were more disciplined they could have been in a much better situation. The score could have been 270/6 if only the English pace bowlers were willing to be more patient, positive and disciplined. They initially got rattled when the pitch was slow and did not stick to their plan of bowling just short of good length and straight. I am actually disappointed with the display of Indian batsmen. Given the quality of the bowlers if they had a better approach they could have been 320/2 at the end of the day.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Just a TRIVIA to all hunchers and thinkers

Imagine Swann getting back to the pavilion with an injury after beating the Indian batsmen a few times in his first spell....

What kind of total are we talking about?

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

the only objection i have is that india is too reliant on spin to win matches at home, and irrespective of their performance here, the problems in SA, aus and eng will continue, if nothing is done about it. but having said that, this is a result oriented wicket, and isnt that what we all want from a test?

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

I know its completely against the spirit of cricket...

But Imagine Swann getting back to the pavilion with an injury after beating the Indian batsmen a few times....

What kind of total are we talking about?

Posted by 360review on (November 15, 2012, 17:43 GMT)

@SachinGoNow, this game is in Ahmedabad and the local language is Gujarati not Hindi. So get your facts straight about Tamil commentary in Chennai. By the way what's wrong with Hindi?

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 17:41 GMT)

Tendulkar tried to dominate the only English bowler that was threatening....good plot to unsettle the well set bowler....

Felt he should have waited a few more overs before unleashing those big shots and things would have been completely different.

Posted by Nish_US on (November 15, 2012, 17:37 GMT)

Terribly disappointed by India......Not the kind of revenge that could balm the wounded souls... with half the side already back in the pavilion at 300...terribly disappointed

Posted by Holy_devil1985 on (November 15, 2012, 17:33 GMT)

Poms arrived in India expecting square turners and now looks like English supporters cannot digest the mistake that Cook did(dropping Monty). Don't expect green salad to be served in India..Its tandoori time. Good to see Swann picking up those wickets(Diwali gifts from Sachin and Sehwag). Really felt the situation would had been different if Monty was playing. Not sure why Patel or even Bres is in the side. India will always serve turner as the English or Aussies serves green top wickets. You want to be the best prove that you can survive the spinning conditions. Its been close to 28 yrs since the last English triumph..looks like we will be adding few more years to that number..N'joy the red hot tandoori :)))))!

Posted by 158notout on (November 15, 2012, 17:27 GMT)

As an England fan I would like to say well played to India and to Graeme Swann and tell the rest of the England team to pull their socks up. I do not agree with anyone blaming the pitches, that is one of the advantages of playing at home. I would be disappointed if England fans started using the sorts of excuses we heard last summer - injuries, under-cooked etc. Each team has enough organisation behind to prepare to their own standards. I must admit I am flummoxed by the decision to play Bresnan ahead of Monty. Unless it was to strengthen the batting? That would already be a mistake!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

Test match batting in Nov '12 - 88.78 across three games. yawn!!!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

lol pitches like this in india have been the same for the past 2 decades, why is everyone complaining?

Posted by bgshankar on (November 15, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

Oh God! Please make Tendulkar to understand! one another match and another lost chance for a youngster. Youngsters should be given opportunity at home conditions.

Posted by Indian_Cricket_Fanatic on (November 15, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

I hate fans when they start arguing about the kind of pitches provided... green tops...rank turners....a pitch is a pitch! ..... If you believe your side is world class you wouldn't argue about having bad pitches. If you are a seamer from a subcontinental team and you consider yourself worldclass ,you'd do well overseas as well ....same stands for worldclass spinners from overseas like swann who bowled so well today... As far as batting is concerned, there is always something to learn overseas and its a challenge, just learn and enjoy it.... Those players sweat for you giving their 100%.So that you enjoy your time watching your country play.Good fight. Great game.That should be enough....why complain?

Posted by pr3m on (November 15, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

Interesting choice of words; a fresh approach to writing definitely appreciated.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:15 GMT)

Why bresnan bowl slowly today average speed was 122kmph. Is he not completely fit ? England make a huge mistake by dropping MONTY PANESAR.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

England make a big mistake by playing BRESNAN instead of MONTY PANESAR.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 17:10 GMT)

The greatest " FLAT TRACK BULLIEST " ever in the history of world cricket is made a century today Waooo.....

Posted by OzWally on (November 15, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

Seen several posts regarding what is a "fair" pitch. To me that is one that has something for the seamers on day 1, a good batting pitch 2 & 3, then something for the spinners days 4 & 5 with a result sometime on day 5. This one is a joke, win the toss - win the game. It was good for batting for about 2 sessions, it had nothing for the seamers and was already breaking up by the 3rd session. No one will reach 300 in the last 3 innings and will probably be over in 3 1/2 days. Had to laugh when Bresnan banged one in short in his 3rd (or 4th over) and it got about chest high and then bounced again before it reached Prior. He visibly gave up trying to bang it in and didn't sniff 130k for the rest of the day.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (November 15, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

@VJGS, go and have a sleep before, than in dreams you can dream Sri lanka beating India in India in tests. Sri Lanka has never done this and it will take ages to them to do so. India are best team from subcontinent to tour anywhere apart from last 8-0 drubbing, but still if you collect the results of last decades you will see India number one in Subcontinent and was number after Austaralia. Sri Lanka n team is nothing but a bunch of jokers.

Posted by a1234s on (November 15, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

people complaining about the pitches need to grow up. i remember watching india getting blown away in kingsmead back in 1996. i remember india being ripped apart last summer in england.

the indians didn't whine about the super fast swinging pitches then.

if you are in the subcontinent, you should expect turners. isn't that what test cricket is all about?

Posted by Jay_N on (November 15, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

For all those complaining about wicket; only spin no swing, don't be surprised if the ball starts to swing after sometime when Indian seamers bowl

shshhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone its a secret

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 16:20 GMT)

Go India tell them how its done... please a 4-0 clean sweep like Pakistan did in UAE

Posted by Ganesh1015 on (November 15, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

Couple of things to be noted.....crowd was not small, it probably would have filled half of Rosebowl or Hobart had the test been played in Eng or Aus.....next assuming pitch was not of international standards(the way it is portrayed by Poms), what did England bowlers(except Swann) do to counter the same...they just feeded Sehwag with balls on the off stump or outside off which he will hit even if you wake him up in the middle of sleep.....third what did End management expect coming to India did they expect pitches to have green tinge and lot of bounce....come on people all of us have been watching cricket for long time and by now should understand what to expect in different conditions .....for any team to be world beaters like Aussies of 90's and early 2000's or Windies of 80's learn to adapt, graft ,acclimatize and then u will dominate the world unfortunately Poms are no way close to it from the look of it on Day one....

Posted by aby_prasad on (November 15, 2012, 16:16 GMT)

200plus comments already! and that too on day 1 of a match where many were quick to say its a boring bland track! whether there are spectators in the stadium or not, test cricket does have followers! you are measuring it with just one yardstick. unlike earlier people dont have that much time nowadays! except in exceptional cases. So be it in gabba or ahmedabad, wo look at the comments being made during the aus-sa match and now for the eng-ind match! its good, its gooood like jim carrey says :P.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

may be panesar should have been picked instead of bresnan / broad , u dont need 3 pacers for such a wicket , not obviously at the cost of leaving a quality spinner -panesar out of the side and may be play bairstow for patel , someone in that spot who you think is the est batsman

Posted by hhillbumper on (November 15, 2012, 16:13 GMT)

its one day.Lets see what happens by the end of the series. have to say that Tendulkar continues to make a strong case for retirement

Posted by RandyOZ on (November 15, 2012, 16:09 GMT)

Statchin once again fails, much like the whole English team. This battle of the minnows really is painful to watch.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 15, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

LOL at this pitch, no wonder India's batsmen in the last 20 years have had inflated averages. What. A. Road. LOL @ Sehwag and Pujara too, bastmen who when they play on a True Cricketing Surface, that being GRASS (as the game was invented by England to be originally intended to be played on), these two batsmen are a joke. Staying back and waiting for a deadened ball to loop up off the pitch onto your bat isn't that impressive thanks.

Posted by Puffin on (November 15, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

England short a spinner here. Swann has shown what can be done, but cannot do it all alone. It is a pretty normal Indian wicket, so don't go in expecting pace bowlers to automatically tear an innings to shreds like home. Okay sometimes it happens, but it should not be relied on. What I cannot fathom is that a year or two ago Bresnan was deemed our "flat-track" specialist. Maybe against Bangladesh, I can't believe people fell for that.

I doubt India will be short a spinner, though.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

Typical Indian dead-pitch. So boring to watch.

Posted by bMike on (November 15, 2012, 16:02 GMT)

Even on the flattest pitch world's most overrated so called cricketing God can't make a fifty lol

Posted by cric_fan123 on (November 15, 2012, 15:58 GMT)

Certain things: 1. All who are crying about seam bowling in Indian conditions. Go watch Dale Steyn in Nagpur last SA tour. He took 5 wickets. Now thats what is called world class. Just as same Ashwin is a trundler abroad, lion at home. So are most of the English fast bowlers. 2. All who moan about the pitch. You are in India. The weather and soil is good for these kinds of wickets. Even if we want seaming pitches, it wont work. So pls stop moaning. (For smarties who say seaming pitches is not same as greentops, spin pitches are also not flat pitches, grow up. If this a flat pitch, english batsmen should score a double/triple. lets see if they can do it on a "flat" pitch.) 3. England and SL have the worst away record so stop harping on that and check your facts. 4. Since 2005, England has played 16 draw test matches compared to India's 12. So check facts about 700 scoring matches. FYI, SL is the worst offender in drawn tests. they play to draw and not win. Enjoy the game guys!! :)

Posted by baranasai on (November 15, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

It is a good first day for some indian batsmen like Viru and Pujara.But the one stands out is Swann -he has learned to do welll in Indian conditions. I am not sure whether Our bolwers can do the same against a good england batting.Unless india scores 500 + thematch may go in for a draw as both teams can bat around 400+in first innnings and the match might end in draw. Common Indian bolwers try and do well tomorrow( I doubt )

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

and that is why you can never write sehwag off!it wont be long before tendulkar and gambhir also bounce back.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:32 GMT)

if there is one thing that can give eng a sleepless night, it is the wicket of kohli! I mean if that is the sort of turn on offer, then even god can't save eng!!! so called top test team!

Posted by ajaym55 on (November 15, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

@ sensible-Indian-fan. You are right, when India played badly in England and Australia, Indian fans tore in to them for under performing. When other teams under perform in sub-continent, of course, it is the condition. Mate, if you have any pretension to be amongst the top teams in the world, get used to conditions and perform everywhere. If not, stay at home and stop touring.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar must retire. No excuse. He must retire.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

England bowling was so ordinary in today, hopefully Swann keeps bowling long spells so that match doesn't become single-sided affair towards India. Next few days crowds will be definitely very dejected watching English batters dance and give-up against quality spin, like they have done so many times before!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

Reading most of the comments posted here by the English, it ridicules me. It is totally fair for them to play on their strengths, and the opposition's weaknesses when playing in England, but if India plays on their strengths and England's weaknesses, I get to see such comments. FYI English Fans, India's strengths are batting and England's weakness is playing against spin. Perfect pitch according to that?

Posted by Venkat_Gowrishankar on (November 15, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

And people who already talk of India thrashing England..and blah blah... There are 4 more days to go and 3 more test matches. This is just day 1. Let India do the domination and not be in an Imaginative world of " doing the domination" . Let them do it and let them prove it. I am pretty sure that the English batsmen too would fancy their chances if they learn from their mistakes in the UAE. Its all eyes on the English batsmen Vs India spinners. A real real test on both sides, if England play well then they are serious contenders, if India do well - believe me its going to worsen the psychological issue of playing spin for England.

But, one difference between Pakistan and India, India are a much better batting side than Pakistan , so it wont be an easy pushover for England - especially in India!. They can expect to take all the wickets in a session and so on.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

There seems to be a lot of preconcieved ideas about what constitutes a good test match cricket pitch here, but i'm not sure too many of them are correct. There would appear to be a reasonable balance between bat and ball in this match, it is simply that the English selectors have failed to realise, in all of their collective years, that when playing in India that balance is better achieved through the spin bowling department. Monty Panesar is a seriously talented spin bowler, in my opinion probably as good as any left armer around, why you'd leave him out is beyond me? Pick Patel by all means, but he's still only a third spinning/fifth bowling option in the same fashion as Yuvraj is for India..... Looking ominous for England with Yuvraj, Dhoni and Ashwin all relatively quick scorers the total may rack up pretty quickly tomorrow.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 15:11 GMT)

Only saving grace from England point of view on day 1 was the spin bowling of Swann. Nice to see Sehwag among the runs and that 134 run opening partnership. Pujara has shown yet again that he is right choice for the number 3 spot in tests. Sorry to say but... Tendulkar has disappointed, yet again !! It would be interesting to see how far can India stretch with their remaining 6 wickets. If India can manage to get around the score of 500 runs till tea on day 2 and then ask England to bat post tea session, that would be interesting with Ashwin and Ojha bowling in tandem to English batsmen with dust all around and ball spinning around

Posted by Kulaputra on (November 15, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

Will we have the guts to drop Sachin if he refuses to go away gracefully ? Another century here or there makes no difference. Youngsters should be given a chance. Selectors should not think that Sachin has a life time contract

Posted by sensible-indian-fan on (November 15, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

@jb633, jmcilhinney, Selassie-I, Scube - Nice to see some honest comments from you English guys (I may have missed out a few others in here). Fact is that India was rubbish in England. Even a 4-0 win CANNOT erase what happened there.The only way to erase that is by winning overseas. Same goes for England. They can't be called world champions if they are pathetic in the subcontinent. As far as this match is concerned - 3 seamers, man, they got it all wrong. I guess they expected the pitch to aid reverse swing early on.

Posted by yorkshirematt on (November 15, 2012, 15:10 GMT)

Already it's obvious how the match will pan out. By close tomorrow the scorecard will likely read something like India 540-5 dec (Pujara 200*, Yuvraj 141) England 100-5 (decimated by spin). That is if India declare at all. They could bat on and still have three days to bowl England out twice. The worrying thing for England is that their bowlers are now looking ragged. In SL and UAE, for all the batsmen played poorly, they were still able to bowl the opposition out twice

Posted by india666666 on (November 15, 2012, 15:09 GMT)

hate these comments on pitches, i personally hate flat tracks but not the tracks which can produce a result (no point wasting time talking idiotic stuff on the wicket) instead think of combating the task ahead of u

Posted by AzAb12754 on (November 15, 2012, 15:08 GMT)

@Bruisers: You see to forget about the recent Aus-Sa match empty.

Posted by path_finder_13 on (November 15, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

i think england should take those "home" pitches with them where ever they go for the tour because they can not play on any other pitches.... this is the only way i see england winning series in india........

Posted by Herath-UK on (November 15, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

This proves it is stalemate for India ;throw flat tracks and spinners and get good bounty.Well it is counterproductive in the long run.I'm delighted Sri Lankan attempts to do away with such pitches. Ranil Herath - Kent

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (November 15, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

@Bruisers - Also glad that you've been keeping an eye on some of the 'other' matches even though its lowly ranked great to see hope Yuvraj does well and climb up the player rankings great players :)"

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (November 15, 2012, 15:00 GMT)

@Bruisers - You seem to forget that has a BILLION well more than that lol 1/6 of the worlds population so there's no excuse for you to not fill up a ground just accept the truth man :P

Posted by Uppercut07 on (November 15, 2012, 14:57 GMT)

surely this just proves England team is just as bad as the Indian team? Not Indians r any better! Both teams r like faithful husbands, performs JUST AT HOME, no performance away! :D)

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (November 15, 2012, 14:54 GMT)

@balajeev I think you'll rather than being a sweeping generalisation, it's a comment based on fact. Did you see the sections of empty yellow seats? Is your comment "stereotype of the Englishman with a superior "I know better" attitude" itself not a sweeping generalisation?

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 15, 2012, 14:52 GMT)

@jb633 It is far too early to maake a judgement on the pitch.

Posted by jb633 on (November 15, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

@Scube- yeah, you are dead right. There is nothing wrong with the pitch, just we are playing terribly at the moment. It makes me cringe reading some of the comments from my compatriots about why we are playing badly. We have not played well since the summer of 2011 and I do not see why this is a suprise that we are getting bullied here. Bresnan and Broad have been nothing more than trundlers since March 2012 and I do not see what role Bres is performing here. People like to think that because the spinners win the games it lessens the victory. It does not lessen anything it just shows how ignorant we are of the conditions here. Playing one spinner is a travesty in these conditions. I mean really what are we doing? I cannot find any answer as to what Bres is doing in the team. If all fit and available I would ditch Broad and Bres and bring in Finn and Monty for the second test. We need the extra pace and a bowler who can turn it away from the right handers (Patel is a non spinner)

Posted by wablo55 on (November 15, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

'This being India, where Test cricket no longer draws the crowds, there were only a few thousand in the stadium to watch it.' - been watching the Aus v SA test series mister? The Gabba was completely empty, far less attended than the opening day at Ahmedabad. Declining test audiences are not just an Indian problem, though such a fact probably doesn't accord with your 'world view'.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Three things have been proved today: 1.That Anderson, Broad and Bresnan are trundlers, with Bresnan being so to the extent of being sleepy to watch. 2. That England are probably the most stubborn cricket team available, they will only play to their strengths carved at home. I dont see any other reason behind Bresnan's selection over Panesar. 3. That Graeme Swann (and Cook and KP later) are the only world-class players in this team. The fourth thing, however, is the saddest. The english fans are busy bickering about dead Indian pitches and so all, but are blind towards the man called Graeme Swann. Sad but true...the other bowlers were meat and drink for the Indian batsmen...

Posted by path_finder_13 on (November 15, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

@ wolvoste if u say india have to prove itself in every condition why does not this theory apply on england........ u pommies lost to pakistan 3-0 and dont accept the fact that u can not play spin....always crying like litte babies about pitches...... stop that .....OK u are going down in india too big time......

Posted by sensible-indian-fan on (November 15, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

@Selassie-I - This is reg Indians blaming English pitches as green tops. There is a subtle difference. Let me explain. When the English were HAMMERING the Indians last year, all the Indian fans were bashing up their team lack of ability to play swing, IPL and other stuff. At that time, I don't recall even one Indian saying the pitches weren't sporting enough. Now when it was England's turn to visit India, there was a debate about whether rank turners should be prepared or not. In that context, a LOT of Indians said that since English prepared greentops , we are eligible to prepare rank turners. Now England DID NOT prepare green tops (its just that a lot of Indians have confused good seaming tracks with green tops) but the point is no one from India criticized the English pitches as unsporting. In contrast, take a look at how many English fans are calling this pitch unsporting. Forget about the 4th and 5th day, let's see how they perform in the 2nd and 3rd day against spin.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

Sachin just announced his retirement from all forms of Cricket after the........... ................. ................. ................. ................... .................... NEXT WORLD CUP.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

Call for Monty rang out all day but alas he will not save us this time. A blast from the past as Sehwag exploded to all areas and no one could calm the flow. More to come as the Indian middle get ready flex their muscel and only Swan may attract some ducks now.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

Great comeback from indian openers !!

Posted by Edassery on (November 15, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

As an Indian and Indian fan, I believe in good tracks that's something for everyone. In India, pitches are made for our batting heroes and we treat our own bowlers like beggars. Really fed up of seeing wickets that bounces only till knee height - good for our 5' 5" batsmen. Well, that's how batting gods and records are created right? India needs to come up with better test wickets (doesn't mean fiery bouncy wickets) that has some turn and consistent acceptable bounce. Now suddenly, Sehwags and Gambhirs have regained form and let's see what they do in South Africa. Really pity the fans who boast about our fake batting gods. Just think about the pace bowlers who break their backs for the country as well...

Posted by imrankhan76uk on (November 15, 2012, 14:12 GMT)

looking tough for England. I think Anderson and Broad are less good learner on these indian pitches. I wonder if Onion was given a chance instead of Braod. Patel is definitely playing as batting all rounder otherwise if you want spin then Monty is better option. Its early but first test could be a trend setter for the series. Whatever India's total will be but Now England must bat well to put pressure on indian side as they are the one looking for "revenge".

Posted by davidatlas999 on (November 15, 2012, 14:12 GMT)

Hey @stormy16 sorry you better know india is not a place where spinner rule its the batter who rule here.watch out ranji tropy result where jadeja is geting 300 the problem is the low bounce here which kill any fast bowler.just look out indian fast bowlers the are so poor when you look there avg poor guys one or two will be around 24avg.indian fans want runs not wicket other wise look to pak domestic right now where fast bowler rule all over.the like of junaid,ihsan,asad,talha,khalil,cheema,tanveer,sarfaraz and nanny more geting wicket it the rate of below then 20 in this tropy.all i wanna say indian in india spin have succes because of lack of bounce and big scores where spinners can bowl over 30 overs per day and fast bowler lack energy to bowl over then 30 overs in a day. Thats all

Posted by mazdonal on (November 15, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

Excellent article. I don't agree with the author about Madho Panesar, though. He is not in the same class as Swann, much though he may be called "specialist spinner". For all his being a "great guy" the last time he toured India and was given some chances in the Tests, he was hammered mercillessly so that he almost retired from cricket. He was reduced to going and playing in First Class cricket in Sri Lanka. He is moreover not much of a batsman in the same league as Samit Patel and is a hopeless fielder. He does not stack up to being a Test player. I think this is well realised by Rahul Dravid and that is why he tried to swing his verdict towards Panesar before tha match.

Posted by Venkat_Gowrishankar on (November 15, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

Geats such as Wasim and Waqar were brought up on such dry surfaces. They adapted to the conditions by learning to reverse the ball . Thats how you become great! - Learning to bowl in all conditions as a seamer. If you as a seamer can get 5 wickets in an innings in a Test match in India , no doubts that you are top quality. Unfortuanately, I doubt even if the Indian seamers could get 3 in an Innings leave alone 5. England have some quality fast men, but you need to learn and adapt to the conditions, you dont get to see wasim and waqar bowling bouncers in the sub continent. They invented the toe crusher as they never trusted the pitch to do the work for them!.

Posted by Badgerofdoom on (November 15, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

Well not picking panasar is looking like a bit of a mistake, that said the most worrying thing I've seen so far is that our catching is still dodgy. How many times did we drop Amla in the last series? As they say catches win matches. Still while india are ahead they have not pulled away yet and we need to try and get them for under 450 and then bat well, if not batting on day 4 and 5 might be pretty tricky.

Posted by Valavan on (November 15, 2012, 14:03 GMT)

Its really shame playing Broad ahead of Panesar. He just played one warm up and have been not very effective. Should have been Panesar all the way. England just have to play to their limitations, butter fingers like trott and anderson cannot be excused playing this level. When playing away from home, must grab the chances given by home team. wish England have a better day tomorrow. cricinfo please publish.

Posted by cricroop on (November 15, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

India got a fantastic chance of posting 500+ score.. they should aim for an innings defeat. They should keep up the intensity throughout the series.

Posted by BrainFox on (November 15, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

It was a good knock by Shewag. I sinecerely hope that he gets to his scoring best and lead the Indian recovery. What a pleasing knock by Pujara and I am sure will be driving late to work tomorrow so as to give me some time to watch him scoring his 2nd ton in Test Cricket. I would love to see this Indian team scoring over 500+ and decimating the England team over the next 3 days to Win start this series.. Go India - I would wait to receive you as winners in Mumbai.

About England, so much has been written about their preparedness and willingess to graft, but let me tell you - they did not implement or rather did not have any concrete plan until Swan came to bowl. Cook - get back to the drawing room and try asking your pacers to bowl containing length. I am not sure if Monty would have had any impact (for all that comments for his inclusion) in this match (atleast in today's match) and there is no way England could rue having rated him lower than Broad.

Posted by Fine_Legs on (November 15, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

This was an absorbing first day's play, and you have to say, Greame Swann's performance is the single best ever day an England spinner has ever had in India. I remember the anticipation around Derek Underwood when he arrived with the MCC in 1977; his performance through the series was not a patch on what Swann produced today. Shane Warne has had a few shining performances, although not in terms of wickets, but in terms of sheer excellence with which he bowled at Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Ganguly. I would still rank Swann's performance today as one of the finest ever by an England spinner in India.

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (November 15, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

India should be reasonable happy after today's play. This bloke Pujara seems almost as good as Kohli. Thank heaven for Swann, without him we'd be slaughtered. Dravid was correct, we should have included Monty. We already have our backs to the wall. But tomorrow is another day, and who knows? We could keep India to 400 with some quick wickets, and then hope for Cook & Co. to bat steady and obtain a lead. Well played Sehwag & Pujara, but Swann - you are a beauty.

Posted by ToTellUTheTruth on (November 15, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

Good bowling by Swann. What's up with the hindi commentary Star Cricket? Will the commentary be in Tamil, if the test match is played at Chennai? Please switch over to English. We can't bear this "HINGLISH" commentary any more.

Posted by 360review on (November 15, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

@rahulcricket007, lets keep your regional bias aside here. If winning the toss ensures that you win the game then why not play with Class B players and take chances. Your comment undermines the work that batsmen and bowlers do to win the games. Just because you favour your Bangalore pitch does not mean toss can win matches.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (November 15, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

Just as I thought: win the toss, win the game. England needed to hold on to all of their chances & that, despite some brilliant bowling from Swann, they failed to do. Is this wicket worthy of Test cricket? Nope! It started off asleep & Sehwag needed no footwork (as ever) to score at will. He could have batted in his sleep on this duvet wicket that was as unresponsive as a blank expression. Then, mid-afternoon, it woke up, got grouchy, got Swann into the game & Sehwag out of it. Bits flew off the duvet & now the wicket is deteriorating fast. By mid-afternoon tomorrow, it'll will be Christmas & Dewali combined for any spinner. Nice batting by Pujara, btw. He looks class & has feet that move; he should do well on foreign fields. I don't think I'll need to wake early on day 4. The BCCI has ensured that this Test match will go nowhere near the distance.

Posted by gnanzcupid on (November 15, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

@Hammond i dont know all the english mouths shout out that only wickets which assist seamers are best and the rest are the worst. those who have such attitudes must be mentally unstable. Indian condition is also another condition but different from english. it doesn't mean its inferior to brit,aus conditions. Does any of the pitches in ur country have spinning wicket? So naturally u people don't know to play spin.So ull lose. It is bound to happen. Its a simple logic.Accept n Understand this before u comment here poms.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

Swann...brilliant.. he managed to deceive three good batsmen and adjusted pace and flight to suit the Indian conditions..... Congrats to Sehwag on his 100.. and salute to Pujara for the way he countered the Swann-threat...Welcome back Yuvi.. Disgraceful...Trott.. now people will start calling "He trotted" rather than "He cheated". I foresee a double hundred from an Eng batsman... should I make an appointment with ophthalmologist?!!!

Posted by Sanawana on (November 15, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

Sehwag secured his place in Indian team for the next 50 matches; SRT didn't do anything but his quota is not yet finished, he can play for next 31 matches without big score. England should be scratching their heads for dropping Monty!

Posted by getsetgopk on (November 15, 2012, 13:43 GMT)

Day one and the pitch keeping low like this in the final session is a disgrace. Turn and grip is one thing but having balls hardly above ankle height just eliminates the quality of both batting and bowling from the equation, it just comes down to what the pitch does like a lottery. I think Eng should have had Monty in for either Broad or Bresnan. Bad selection there and thats going to cost them besides some very poor catching.

Posted by bigwonder on (November 15, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

@freo75, what sort of shocks did you get from the pitch? Describe me an ideal pitch for test cricket or should I say England friendly pitches are good test pitches? Stop the whining already.

Posted by bigwonder on (November 15, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

@BoonBoom, green top seamers back to whining. Ha, ha, ha

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

India short by 40 runs and England short by 1 wicket

Posted by Vishnu27 on (November 15, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

Succinctly put bimalshah! Not only have England had to suffer possibly the greatest goal ever scored in international football scored against them, they have had to endure a truly horrid day in the field. Capped off with possibly THE dimmest pre-match non-selection in a test & series so clearly all about spin. England will do well to come out 0-3 in this series. This will get ugly for England & the early indicators are far from promising. I'm sure we will all hear plenty more "excuses" & bleating about the pitches & conditions from the greentop bully brigade...

Posted by Venkat_Gowrishankar on (November 15, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

I am just tired of comments like " I looked a the pitch and i went off to bed", I mean seriously what experience do people who write here know about playing conditions in the subcontinent. How many of you have played in the sub continent? You get bone dry surfaces - Live with it. I remember surfaces where there used to be puffs of dust in the bowler's run up. If swanny can get a 5 for then the wicket is sporting . Really! On one side the batsmen can score runs and on the other side the spinners have a good chance . And about crowds, what do you expect on a thursday?,.The attendance is less by no means , it would have filled most of england's small stadiums. You should travel to the sub continent to see the seating capacity in the stadiums.

And those who stereotype India by saying that the quality is poor because of such surfaces, have no idea of how tough age group crciket is. I remember playing on unconvered surfaces on dew laden mornings. I doubt you would get that in England!

Posted by SAF-Fan-no-1 on (November 15, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

Uuunn.....! Broad and Anderson looks like a Head Less Chicken in the Ground. I rather give more cance to Graham Onion then Broad. Shorter ball doesn't work on indian pitch. More accuracy on Indian Pitch to bawl with Pannesar then Sumit patel. England enjoy nice wether in India with nice ice-cream on the plate.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

None of the lost opportunities made it big today except for Pujara which was not a drop techincally.

Posted by SarfBD on (November 15, 2012, 13:30 GMT)

No Panesar!!! Way too defensive. Patel is good but not good enough against Indians who are the best against spin. If you wanted to have Patel, you should've dropped either Bresnan or Broad. But not a specialist spinner in spinning track.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 13:26 GMT)

Good comeback from sehwag and gambhir..pujara doing his best out there..yuvi should stand and hit a century or a half century..even dhoni can do it in down order..

Posted by dinuhebbar on (November 15, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

Even after Pujara completes formalities of century and remaining batsmen goes on to score runs helping India score around 600, England appears to have a depth to counter attack or take the match to draw.... By the way, how many more deliveries ST requires to announce his retirement?

Posted by balajeev on (November 15, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

"This being India, where Test cricket no longer draws the crowds...". This is a sweeping generalisation. Such comments won't exactly endear the author to the Indian public and will only serve to strengthen the stereotype of the Englishman with a superior "I know better" attitude.

Posted by Wynand80 on (November 15, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy, etc. I have to say, it is hilarious to hear all the complaints from some English cricket fans about how the pitch is flat with no swing and seam, etc. and therefore the cricket is boring. Two things, firstly, it just shows the lack of basic understanding of the sport and how pitches differ in different parts of the world. Seam and swing is not the key in India, turn, bite and bounce is! The morning session when the ball is hard is usually good to bat on, the post-tea session is attritional when the ball goes soft. All of you moaning about the pitch being flat, let me assure you, come England's turn to bat tomorrow, the pitch wont look flat. It pays to see both teams bat before deciding how the pitch is! BTW there will be tests in this series when England will win the toss but get bowled out nevertheless - so win toss win match theory does not apply to the kind of pitches being rolled out here. I quite like the look of the A'bad pitch, its a results pitch!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

People need to understand that a test match in England goes with a different tempo than in India. In English conditions, main bowlers are fast bowlers and they use new ball and fresh pitch, thus making first day more of a fast bowlers day, 3rd and 4th days are best for batting in those conditions. In India, main bowlers are spinners. First 2 days are best for batting and bowl grips and turns on last 3 days. England played 3+1 combination in English conditions with Swann defending most of the time. In India, English team selection was absolutely rubbish. Same 3+1 combination will not work in India. Also people claiming this was an easy pitch should see Swann spinning it on day 1. Just if you have all fast bowlers in the line up and it doesnt swing, you cant blame the surface. Its equivalent of India playing 2 spinners in Edgbastan and expecting spin. Panesar would have been a handful here. Poor selection and very defensive mindset by English management.

Posted by Sobhan_Sachinfan on (November 15, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

hahaha!! you know what few days ago, i predicted about unpredictability of certain Sehwag like "nothing rises abruptly in the world, not even Sun; But Sehwag rises into form quite suddenly". Still I believe he generally fail to do justice to his real talent. I am happy that India are ahead. Even Swan getting wickets is also a very good sign for India..... Only sad for me personally is the my god didn't stay much time at the crease... Hope the last few innings in his career, master make some really memorable performances :)

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (November 15, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

I really don't know why England tours sub-continent when it always has to crib about the slow, turning pitches in India?

The pitches have always been this way since the beginning and if you cannot get out of your comfort zone, then you shouldn't be touring like Trescothick.

Either england must learn to adapt or abandon touring sub-continent.......there's no point always complaining about slow pitches here.....it shows england aren't mentally strong enough to adapt.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (November 15, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

Monty should have played. Should have two spinners on a sub-continental wicket.

Posted by rajattiwaari on (November 15, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

Swann was brilliant today. The one which got virat was a classic off spinner. . a beautiful off spinning flighted delievery,disguised kohli. My heart was broken to see kohli's stumps rattled but nevermind he'll comeback in the next inning with a BANG!!

Posted by haq33 on (November 15, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

The simple fact that many commentators overlook is that a seam-friendly English track actually by definition will not be a "win toss can't lose match" track, whereas a spin-friendly sub continental track will create a WTCLM situation. This is why it is a legitimate gripe about pitches like this one and many others in this region such as the Premadasa. Put another way, seam-friendly doctoring is not as unsporting as spin-friendly doctoring in my honest opinion.

Posted by ajaym55 on (November 15, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

I just don't understand this constant gripe about "flat track bullies". Don't both team play on the same track? What stops English batsmen to repeat performances they have been seeing for generations? Can't possibly be bad memory.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (November 15, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

I see lot of negative comments and some sarcastic one both on twitter and here regarding the pitch, but its sub-continent and pitches have always been this way!

One you tour abroad, the conditions will be different and one must be mentally strong to put up a fight in adverse conditions and show one's character.

Sadly, that has always been missing with england and their poor record shows it and it might continue forever.

Their fast bowlers had no plans for this pitch and anderson was almost reluctant to bowl after initial 4 overs....

England dropped as many as 4 chances, which is down right poor and perhaps comes from their loathing of adapting to tougher conditions.

Posted by androyuvi on (November 15, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

I am waiting for Ashwin to bat..

Posted by ste13 on (November 15, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

England should have selected Panesar ahead of Bresnan. Otherwise the attack is based purely on Swann. It will be a real test for English batting to survive. Possibility of England's win has gone away. One may say that there were stranger things in test cricket, but I cannot see England take 20 Indian wickets with just Swann's arm.

Posted by sachislife2310 on (November 15, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

:( should i be happy that tendulkar did not get bowled today or should i be sad that he did not score well today :(

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

Really a nice start and solid batting by India. Swann is the lone saving grace for england. Its going to be in India's way. Sehwag gambir pujara played brilliantly

Posted by Scube on (November 15, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

@ jb633, jmcilhinney, Selassie-I: Happy to see some saner English fans! It's funny to find many others complaining about the pitch, climate, pollution, noise, food, sun setting lot earlier than it would in England, etc.! If Eng team mgmt had made the right selection or even if Eng had taken all their chances, India might be at 260 for 7 or 8 and the same fans would have found this a good day for test cricket! @Hammond: If you really didn't switch on your TV all day, you really missed some high quality spin bowling from Swann! Who said a pitch supporting spin from Day 1 will kill test cricket while test cricket will prosper only in seaming & swinging conditions!?! Only flat beds will kill test cricket and you will realise that this is far from one probably from EOD tomorrow!

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 15, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

Congrats Sehwag!! This proves that he can be serious if his job is on the line. That said, it's time to get rid of 10dulkar. It's an embarrassment watching 10dulkar play. He's a burden on Indian team.

Posted by AK_25 on (November 15, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

ok its a flat pitch.....eng must score more thn 500 runs...lets see.....how flat is it...

Posted by andrew27994 on (November 15, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

I was pleased to see Sehwag play a long innings today and that has made the difference between a commanding situation that India are in right now and an ordinary situation in which India could have probably been 6 or 7 wickets down.

England really missed a trick by not playing Panesar instead of Bresnan or Anderson. But still it was more disappointing to see that none of the fast bowlers could claim a wicket.

Also a very impressive knock by Pujara who looks more and more convincing as India's future No.3 batsman.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (November 15, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

Already lot of negative comments from Englishmen on twitter and here regarding the pitch and not their team's performance. I think if getting a seaming wicket is so central to their performance, then they shouldn't look to tour sub-continent. Though they lost to SA comfortably at home.

Touring brings uniqueness of the host country and challenges....If your not good enough to get out of your comfort zone....then i am sorry you ain't mentally strong.

This negative attitude reflected in Anderson & co's approach, who surrendered once they saw no seam movement and perhaps they dropped 4 chances because of this -ve approach.

Posted by Damo_s on (November 15, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

Hmm....signs are not good for us (England). It wouldnt surprise me if this ends up being an innings defeat. Are seamers have been very poor. Not to mention the drops in the field! if the wicket is turning why not bowl cutters? get KP on for a bowl. Cooks captaincy and some of the players have been very negative. Unless this changes we have no chance of winning any of the tests IMO.

Posted by sensible-indian-fan on (November 15, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

@Selassie-I - This is reg Indians blaming English pitches as green tops. There is a subtle difference. Let me explain. When the English were HAMMERING the Indians last year, all the Indian fans were bashing up their team lack of ability to play swing, IPL and other stuff. At that time, I don't recall even one Indian saying the pitches weren't sporting enough. Now when it was England's turn to visit India, there was a debate about whether rank turners should be prepared or not. In that context, a LOT of Indians said that since English prepared greentops , we are eligible to prepare rank turners. Now England DID NOT prepare green tops (its just that a lot of Indians have confused good seaming tracks with green tops) but the point is no one from India criticized the English pitches as unsporting. In contrast, take a look at how many English fans are calling this pitch unsporting. Forget about the 4th and 5th day, let's see how they perform in the 2nd and 3rd day against spin.

Posted by aashokan on (November 15, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

Come on England learn from what the Aussies have done @ The Gabba just days ago; you can do it, England! Cook needs to do what Pup did, score a mere 250* with support perhaps from Trott. You KNOW you can do it England!

Posted by AK_25 on (November 15, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

@maddy20......well said....

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (November 15, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Some peoples are criticizing sachin here.. why?he looks more compartable today..everyone wants attacking cricket from him like in 90's..and he try to did that today..but failed..atleast he did not go into the shell..he will come back strongly....look at kohli he was struggled clearly...

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (November 15, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

India should declare at this score. Plenty to get England out twice. Day 1 pitch already looks like a day 3 spinners track. NICE!!

Posted by S4CHIN_IS_GOD on (November 15, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

Hahaha this is only the first day. I remember India gave England run of their money till end of 2nd Test. Bring it On.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

The Brisbane Test between Australia and S.Africa also produced huge scores, 450 and 565/5, some artificial excitement on the last day mainly stoked by the Aussies' true-to-type sledging of their opponents. Yes, maybe Test cricket is on the way out, maybe cricket itself is on the way out.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

These poms call us flat track bullies. Not too long ago they were beaten in their own backyard by us in 2007.So,there arec flat tracks in england.IND tied a test series in SA in SA in 2010.So,there are flat tracks in SA.But these seaming track sillies cannot play spin.So, they will keep calling a spin friendly pitch -"A FLAT TRACK" and keep crying when they lose.I don't remember the last time when ENGLAND won a test series against INDIA in INDIA but i do remember HOW INDIA DRUBBED ENGLAND IN ENGLAND IN 2007(Poor Michael Vaughan :( )

Posted by Navin2015 on (November 15, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

we will see india scoring 600 tomorrow....:)

Posted by thegoodgame on (November 15, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

I think England will bat equally well on this track - especially Kevin P!

Posted by Dr.Vindaloo on (November 15, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

'It was a strange first session'. Really? Mr Hopps evidently hasn't watched much cricket in India these last five years. Flat, slow pitch; win toss; enter Sehwag; boom-boom, 130-0 at lunch. A perfectly normal start to a test!

Posted by kristee on (November 15, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

It'd be rather simplistic to equate India's home advantage to that enjoyed by sides relying on fast bowling. No side ever dominated with spinners alone. It's fast bowling that helps you dominate, history acknowledges. Eng/SA/Oz, one of these would be ruling cricket again. Short term tactics won't be preventing that from happening.

Posted by guesswhoitsmeabhi on (November 15, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

i find it really strange the number of times the writer makes a mention of the slowness of its track,the low bounce,the inability of the track the batsman etc.as if almost undermining the efforts of the indian batsmen,as if to say it was just too easy and tailor made of themwhy doesn't any foreign journalist question the abilities of their own seamers who are so successful on green tracks in their own backyard but struggle like today on rather unhelpful pitches.every track is different from the other & tht's the beauty of cricket.only a team which masters all conditions becomes a champion,ala west indies of 70s and aus of 2000s.you can't just sweep aside anybody's efforts saying the conditions were helpful.it's biased and unrespectful.does anybody question the ability of a courtney walsh coz he took wickets on fast westindian pitches of the past,or an allan donald who was from the seaming heaven of south africa.it's too disgraceful to even mention all this

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

i thought england were lucky to play 3 warm up matches before the series begun.. but india are even more luckier to have 4 practise matches before the indo-pak series.. thank u bcci and icc for arranging 4 practise matches against a 2nd grade teams.. love u..

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

crazy selection by england, panesar and bairstow should have played for patel and bresnan who's bowling will be equally ineffective. bresnan ok in england patel , not a test standard player.

Posted by sachinisawesome on (November 15, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

@ BoonBoom Are u laughing at your fast track bullies.

Posted by SudharsanVM on (November 15, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

Sehwag innings wil be the standout. the pitch is detoriating and sehwag done the damage well before that. feel that it will be tough to bat on from tomorow and further

Posted by waitinggame on (November 15, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

The first day of the tour has barely finished and the ranting of the England fans has already begun. if u guys can produce tailor made tracks for ur seamers, why cant indians prepare flat wickets for their spinners... who gives u the rights to say its a 'bad wicket' or 'unsuitable for test cricket' just because it doesn't suit the English.

Posted by Ross_Co on (November 15, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@stormy16 - 'England' wouldn't know what a 'National Team' was - when was the last time they actually fielded one?

Posted by rajesh_singhSTM on (November 15, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

Sehwag century rarely results in India not winning.It could be now a draw or Indian win only.

Posted by mayank125 on (November 15, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

Sehwag is the best ever batsman of India...

Posted by mateyman on (November 15, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

The hypocrisy of Indian fans calling England "flat track bullies" is "delicious"#Bruce Macavaney (from an Australian fan)

Posted by Naresh28 on (November 15, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@indian_fans - Our best openning stand in awhile. 324 for day1 is not bad. I am happy and was one who called for Shewag and Gambhirs head. As expected they come good when under pressure. Manoj Tiwari needs to be in the team at some stage. We still need to find good openers on overseas tracks.

Posted by aby_prasad on (November 15, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

how come when indian batsmen play well on a batting assisted pitch its unworthy? u see the difference is, unlike any other teams and i say any, india plays way ahead of others on a batting pitch, be it in south africa, india, pakistan, srilanka or even australia. that in itself is a beauty!, weaknesses apart, and we do have em i know on other pitches!.By the way, this is india, the pitches are whatever everywone says, its not news,its old news and even a new born baby knows it!,now get on with it! IF playing on flat pitches dont yield wins, how come india always wins and the opposition gets bowled twice!!! ?

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (November 15, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

if ind get around 450-475 then i don't see eng winning this test match as their batsmen will clearly struggle against turning ball.....gambhir used to be a good player of spin bowling but in recent times he is struggling against off-spinners.

Posted by mateyman on (November 15, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

A good cricket wicket should over some seam movement on Day 1. Flatten out on days 2&3 and deteriorate on days 4&5. Both pitches which never seam and those which never turn are usually no-good. In Australia, Sydney and Adelaide turn on days 4&5 usually, and Melbourne sometimes does (Melbourne also has the tendency to be a bit slow). The WACA is fast and bouncy usually - not sure about how it goes on days 4&5. Gabba is usually greenish to start but flattens out on days 2&3 and starts to turn a little later on.

Posted by Bruisers on (November 15, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@ExtremeSpeed - As if Mirpur was totallly filled on the first day lol. Atleast, there was 80% attendance (more than 30k spectators) which is not bad for a Test match. Don't know what struck funny to you.. :/

Posted by nilesh91 on (November 15, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

if somehow we can get 500 here, we can force follow on. Very disappointed by Master, feeling this will be his last series(hope otherwise). And people are gonna say sehwag is flat track bully but I don't care as long as he make these remarkable centuries. Let see how these World class batmen play on this very flat pitch.

Posted by VJGS on (November 15, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

To be frank, both England and India can only play well at home against an opposition who are unfamiliar with the conditions - England can be beaten at home by SA or Aus and India can be beaten at home by SL. Neither of these two teams are qualified to criticize each other. These two teams are, more or less, neck-to-neck in terms of quality and deserve nothing better than 4th and 5th places in Test matches. Aus, SA should take the first 2 spots and SL the 3rd.

Posted by Bruisers on (November 15, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

What do people expect of a newly laid subcontinental pitch on Day 1? Swing, seam and black magic? Just cool off and watch the pitch offer even more turn as the Test progresses. Swann bowled well making good use of the spin-friendly track. He deserved all the wickets he got. Really surprised Bresnan was picked instead of Panesar. Seamers were pathetic, no surprises.

Posted by SudharsanVM on (November 15, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

Great work Swann. wel done

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

It is Not Flat Pitch.......See how Gauti, Kohli and Sachin got out.......It was not a seamer friendly pitch but absolutely in favor of Good Spin Bowlers. Had England been able to have another spinner who can bowl like Swann then India could have been bowled out for 280-290 or at least 280/8......so it is whose fault??..Don't get carried away be Sehwag's batting.Even in difficult conditions he will make look like easy....

Posted by wolvoste on (November 15, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

Surely soon the icc have to step in about the quality of pitches in india. For example in england, as well as many other countries, there is something for everyone, usually quicks on the first day, batters days 2 and 3 and spin days 4 and 5 with bounce present on all 5 days. However in this test we may not see a fast bowler take a wicket. Now you can say that in england we produce "green pitches" (which is no arguement, as they have something for everyone, i didnt see dravid having many problems with "green pitches" in 2011??) but there is a difference between that and purposfully doctoring pitches, like in mumbai where england play next where the make up of the square has been changed so it breaks up faster, no wonder test cricket is dying in india and its only because they make the most money for the icc that sanctions arent in place.

having said that what about this pitch screams "bresnan" to andy flower, terrible selection, when in rome........

Posted by whoster on (November 15, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Thank God for Swann! Very disappointing that England have 'played it safe' and omitted Panesar. Whilst Patel has done well in the warm up games, he's not good enough with either bat or ball to warrant a place. You pick your best batsmen and best bowlers, and Panesar is our other specialist spinner. It's a negative decision that could cost England big time. The pitch is hardly a seam bowler's dream, but none of our seamers showed the patience or quality required. Great innings by Sehwag, but apart from Swann, we hardly made life difficult for him. India need to be dismissed for less than 450 for England to have any chance of saving this game, but I reckon the damage is already done.

Posted by Narbavi on (November 15, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

@BoonBoom: Spin dummies back in business, lol lol lol and guess what? They got thrashed in their own backyard too, recently against the proteas

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Its a nice start to what could be a good contest between bat and ball. Pujara has been excellent today and the young lad needs such knocks to build on his confidence. I just hope he continues to get a big 100 which will be good for India. Its great to see the opening stand do well, in particular Shewag. He can be as destructive as a hurricane. The pitch has started working and this will turn miles by day 3. Hope the bowlers can make the most of it. English fielders were a pain to watch, and they better rub the butter off their fingers when they take the field tomorrow.

Posted by stormy16 on (November 15, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

I see some of the Eng fans are already looking for excuses, this before Eng even bats - just captures the fear of spin Eng has. I also presume some of these Eng fans expecting a pitch that is any different are either young children who are watching their first series in Eng or are unable to comprehend that not eveyone plays cricket bowling greens. Ind done well but need to bat well t'row morning to take the game away. Eng need wickets and quickly to enusre Ind dont end up 450+ - Eng will be chasing the game from there on. Not sure why Eng picked a 3rd seamer - like some their fans, were the expecting a seam friendly conditions! We can forgive the fans if the national team cant get past this very basic issue - in India spinners rule and have and will and this is not news.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (November 15, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

Definitely India's day, although a decent comeback from England. It looked like India would run away to a big score for a while. That's still possible but things aren't looking as grim as they were. Unfortunately England's catching has let them down again. At least the catches they put down were much tougher than some of the sitters they dropped against SA but they really need to take every chance. It's also a big concern that, on the first day of a Test match, none of England's three seamers managed a wicket. Good on Swann for his effort but he can't carry the team. It's a bit too early to say that they made a mistake leaving Panesar out but it's looking like a possibility. Bresnan will need a substantial contribution from here to justify a place in the second Test, with Panesar and Finn both hoping to take his spot.

Posted by bimalshah on (November 15, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

Looks like the seaming track bullies had a tough day at the office :)

Posted by voice_of_reason on (November 15, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

England could easily have ended today in control, despite their conservative selection policy, had they taken their chances. Prior dropped Sehwag early on down the leg side; Anderson mis-judged a dolly from Pujara when he only had 8; Trott dropped a simple chance at slip off Swann. It is only Swann who is sort of keeping us in the game and that only goes to emphasise the folly of not playing Panesar. I think Cook's inexperience as captain played a big part here, as he probably would not feel comfortable without a third seamer, especially if Broad breaks down. That being the case, why pick Broad? He's not so special that he should get the nod as the second seamer over Bresnan or Onions or Meaker. Patel does a reasonable holding job as a batsman who rolls the ball out but he's really only considered a stop gap bowler for his county, so why England think he can do a job I've no idea.

Posted by Selassie-I on (November 15, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

@ Green_seamer on (November 15 2012, 11:18 AM GMT) Well said, very poor selection with 3 seamers, panesar should have been selected for one of broad or Bres. I knwo that seam bowling is our strength but monty is good and will take some wikets, or stop the runs at least. I'm impressed with the way Samit came back from a poor start but we missed a trick here BIG time!

Posted by Ross_Co on (November 15, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

What a superb effort by 'England' today in keeping India under 350, their run rate under 4 and taking almost 1.5 wickets a session at the same time. A real triple threat performance! Bresnan to my mind has already clinched the man of the match. They've been playing with this level of intensity all year, I don't know how they can keep it up. Well done!

Posted by alwaysindia on (November 15, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@ BoonBoom atlest we can win in our home , you cant even win at home. mind you apart from last year india had won series in eng in 2007, nearly drawn series in aus in 2008 (i dont count sydney), drawn series in sa. when did eng last win a series in india. can you tell me . i really dont remember.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

BoonBoom, If you mean India are flat track bullies, aren't England seaming track Sillies ?

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (November 15, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@GEORGE DOBELL . sir ahemdabad ground 's total capacity is 50000 . it was half filled today that means nearly 25000 people were present . ALSO IT IS ELECTION TIME IN GUJARAT .

Posted by Boston_Legal on (November 15, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

I was shocked to see the XI this morning.... no Panesar? Are we really expecting Patel to take handful of wickets?

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

I completely agree with Indian_Boy and Reality_Check and KingKongIn.

This is not a flat track. Those who watched the game on the tele would have heard the commetators praising Sehawag's inning. It was not a easy pitch to score run a ball. And he is the difference between the two sides today.

England came with a negative mindset by not selecting another frontline spinner. It was not difficult to read the pitch and make the selections accordingly. When India tour overseas on a green top, they don't go with three spinner and a seamer. The ball has been turning from day one. It is not a flat track. England screwed it up with poor selection, poor fielding and poor mindset.

When Indians will ball sometime late tomorrow, you will see how flat the pitch is. And in a four match series one would hope that England will win the toss, but I can safely predict they will still loose it.

Go India Go!!

Posted by Selassie-I on (November 15, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Well played to Sehwag, winning the toss, India needed to put quick runs on the board early before the pitch crumbles. I can't see England winning this test now, especially giving the Indians 4 lives already!! But we'll see how the pitch goes, it is looking like it's going to turna lot tomorrow already! (not complaining about the surface at all though)

@KingKongIn on (November 15 2012, 11:24 AM GMT) so no Indian ever mentioned the term 'green top' after the England/Aus series'? Maybe a certain Virat Kholi and about 400 fans on here in the comments? I'm not arguing that our batsmen can play spin well, but honestly, the fans didn't blame the pitches in England at all, that's quite some claim there. Please have a read through some comments! Our players don't face quality spin on turning tracks in England, as we don't really have the weather to get a pitch that dry(when it rains every other day in the summer) Just like most of the younger indian bats don't play quality seam bowling wel

Posted by bigdhonifan on (November 15, 2012, 11:56 GMT)

@Hammond you will go for duck on my offspin...This flat pitch is only for batsman who can play spin, not for you Englishman...

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

The funniest scene in the match was English "pace" bowlers bowling at 128 kmph & getting no wicket in the day. And then they mock Indian medium pacers. Umesh Yadav clocks 145 consistently on the same tracks & has taken wickets at a strike rate below 45. So much for English pace.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

well played sehwag well bowled swann bring on day 2

Posted by Cricfan_99 on (November 15, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

Flat pitch ?? Boring match?? No pace.. No bounce .... These are quite the excuses we're going to hear from the English fans over the next few days - at least give credit where its due !! if the pitch is so flat - lets see how many the English score.. if a blitz 100 of 90 balls by SEH-WHACK is a boring affair - lets see how many englishmen survive 90 balls on this track... we'll get to know soon enough!!! For now lets just enjoy a good game of cricket.

Posted by sweetspot on (November 15, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

This is not a flat wicket by any stretch. First day! Did you see the way Kohli got out? Only Sehwag made it look easy because he plays so late and stays still, and then it was Pujara who is technically quite sound and didn't take any time adjusting. Swann was unlucky to not get a couple of wickets more, but perhaps Prior needs "sporting" wickets to take catches that hit his gloves? Just for the record, England fans, Indians do not care much about Test cricket enough to come to the ground to watch, when we have TVs at home.

Posted by BoonBoom on (November 15, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

Flat track bullies back in business...... LOL!!!!

Posted by drei on (November 15, 2012, 11:43 GMT)

@ RednWhiteArmy, looks like you've not seen much cricket outside of the UK, Oz and the such. Broad's bowling in particular was awful. The English just bang it short, mix it up with a straight one, and just expect things to happen. Anderson after tea showed himself and Broad & Bresnan a brief glimpse of how its done. But couldnt get the line right.. the ball starts reversing after 20 overs. Bowl short, bowl wide, and the pitch will look hopeless. Pitch it up, hide the ball, occassionally hit a crack, and the batsmen will be hesitant. India has a few docile bowlerkilling tracks. This isn't one of them -not this particular year anyway!

Posted by Ross_Co on (November 15, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

On behalf of @Hammond I have been instructed to inform you all that he is not in fact English, nor is he Australian - he is Indian and always has been. He is very pleased with the way his team is going. Thank You.

Posted by -Johny- on (November 15, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

India will easily win this test, all big mouth of the English will soon be shut.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (November 15, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

this pitch is a " WON TOSS , WON MATCH " pitch . must confess that the bangalore pitch on which the second test against newzealand was played was a good pitch with some thing in it for every type of bowler . . aswhin took 5 wkt hauls , southee took 7 wkt haul .

Posted by maddy20 on (November 15, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

@Hammond, Kingkongin, RednWhite Army What empty stadium? Its 75% full on a thursday. Thats about 30000+ out of 40K limit, which is not bad at all. If you want balance between bat and ball , you should grab the chances that come your way. I have counted 4 dropped catches and 1 missed stumping(Sehwag, Johli, Gambhir being the benefactors).To be honest England bowled pretty well, Anderson , Patel supported Swann with tight lines. Its just that the start India got , they could afford to bide their time. With Dhoni and Ashwin to come, they will push on towards 500 by tomorrow. Ashwin, Ojha, Yuvraj and spin will do the rest. Dropping Monty was a costly mistake. Bresnan is cannon fodder on these pitches. I expect England to fold for under 300 and will be following on . You do not get spin friendly wickets in England and seamer friendly wickets in India. If you can't take that, perhaps you should stick to beating WI at home.

Posted by sachinisawesome on (November 15, 2012, 11:35 GMT)

@ Hammond U r not watching it on TV and yet u knw it is the worst pitch. And if it is so boring to u why do u even bother to comment. I don't know what u r definition for balance is. Swann giving hard time to Indian batsmen is boring to u. It's nobody's fault that your fast bowling is toothless in India. They look like they already know they will not be able to pick up wickets. Atleast our spinners tried to take wickets in England. Bresnan is bowling at 123-124 kph. He should try harder. Reading all these comments I feel Spinners should not even exist. If there is a pitch which has bounce it is better than the pitch which spins. Who made this rule. Maybe people who can not even bat on flat tracks. Shame.

Posted by alwaysindia on (November 15, 2012, 11:34 GMT)

@ a vacant slip remember the talk we had about "conditional james anderson" . where are you mate. i will be surprised if anderson could take a single wicket in this series

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:34 GMT)

As a indian i have to state that, in the present era, Glenn mcrath,shane warne,murali and to some extent anil kumble had the ability to extract bounce in any kind of surface particularly in test matches. If you dont have the capacity to extract bounce in indian pitches than you are not a good fast/spin bowler. In my view, stuart broad,bresnan,andersnon are not the bowlers suited for all kind of pitch. Just make spin pitches in your countries and do practice. In indian pitches, you cannot point out single country that ruled india except aussies and SA to some lesser extent in some stages.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

England are in big trouble here. If India get 500, Ohja and Ashwin will be licking their lips at all the spin swann created in the first day. KP is key to bashing the spinners about so Dhoni is forced to play the fast bolwers, if they can't take wickets then its KP paradise.

Sehwag should aim to get 10,000 runs by the end of this Seris thats how good he batted today LOL

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (November 15, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

@sc kandy , i don' think pujara xonsumed too much balls . his strike rate was 60 which i quite good . yuvi came at the end of day & was certainly felling uncomfortable against swann . but i really think virat lokli played too many dot balls . 68 balls for just 17 runs . he took 14 balls to make his first run . his slow batting not only drop the run rate but also encourage cook to set an attacking field for swann . well done swann , kohli 's dismissal was beauty . sachin gifted his wkt .

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 15, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

One more time Kohli gets out to a turning ball he would be saying " no turners please ." But that ball turned miles . You don't expect that kind of turn on 1st day of a test match. But it was a good day for Ind and real difficult time ahead for England. Monty should have played this match ahead of Bresnan .

Posted by gnanzcupid on (November 15, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

HAHA.ENGLISH FANS WILL START BLAMING THE PITCH FOR SPINNING SOON.ALREADY A FEW HAVE STARTED IT. FUNNY POMS

Posted by KingKongIn on (November 15, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

Well said Indian boy and Reality check !! and @hammond...yeah it would be bring for you guys...your player can not play spin...I heard you were not watching the match but hopefully you read the cricinfo commentary ...there was enough bounce for Swan....I have same feeling about a pitch should have equal chance for everyone but..but when you play in england there will be nothing for spinner so same will be applied for Indian pitches...C'mon take it sportingly...when we lost 4-0 in england we criticised our team...and if you loose here accept the truth your batsman cant play spin..

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

I am Happy for Sehwag .. I dint watch a ball but sure his inning would have been excitinng & I know the pitch will not favor Enlish pace bowler .. Must be Ranj turner Lokk@ Swann... This century will give Sehwag some confidence to re build from here... I am diehard fan of type of game

Posted by drei on (November 15, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

Those who say India is only good at home have a very short memory. Prior to their last defeat to England in the UK you have to back three series AWAY to find another one. Won also in WI, New Zealand, Pakistan, drew in SA and Aus. All this points to is a period of LOW FORM last year for the Indians. The way they were playing, there's a high change they'd have lost to England last year if the 'lions' had come touring. This team has good all round strength and its a matter of effectively replacing the seniors who've retired. The teams that have the worst home-away performance balance are actually England and Sri Lanka, not India!

Posted by Green_seamer on (November 15, 2012, 11:18 GMT)

Good day of test cricket today. For all those bashing the pitch & complaining about the lack of swing & seam should know that spin bowling is a type of bowling too & taking in 3 seamers was a huge mistake, exposing Indian team to a lesser amount of spin & therefore making the pitch look flat. Most of the English fans didn't even notice the trouble caused by the spinners & the turn in the pitch.

Posted by path_finder_13 on (November 15, 2012, 11:18 GMT)

GerrardLK we will see to that on turning pitch on day 4 and 5 when england bats who will be humiliated...... what about today's play.........

Posted by path_finder_13 on (November 15, 2012, 11:15 GMT)

@ Hammond if u can make runs on these pitches how come u were not included in the touring party...........and by the way india has very large capacity grounds with average capacity of 70 thousand and a croud of 30 thousand or odd can not be called as poor...watch out for the day when india wins ...OK friend.......

Posted by drei on (November 15, 2012, 11:15 GMT)

At least India gave up after losing two tests in England when they toured. England seems to have given up before ball 1. Their attitude appears to be that only Swann can take wickets, and the rest can only hope to do damage control. Overall in all conditions, against all comers, SA is well ahead of the pack due to their success in India, Australia, England AND at home.

Posted by jb633 on (November 15, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

In day 1 the game has already gone from us. I must ask what are the ECB selectors playing at. This is a rank turner and India have a load of right handers. Why is Monty left on the bench when he could turn the ball away. Patel is a pie chucker who could't turn it on my gravelled drive. Bresnan has showed no form for a while now and only looks good on green seamers ( ie Melbourne 2011). I felt this day was coming and it has come as no suprise when it has. The pitch is turning and keeping low and I feel it could be over on day 4. I just can't work out why we are always so conservative and fearful of playing 5 real bowlers. No one can kid themselves and tell me Patel is a true bowler, he is a bowler who bats a bit. I must say I thought Swann was excellent though and it is credit to him that he has bounced back following his daughter's illness. Also great to see Yuvraj back after his life threatning problems. India are miles ahead here.

Posted by sckandy on (November 15, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

I beleive players like Kohly,Pujara,Yuvi are playing for personal interest at one stage runrate was above 4.5 and by the end of the day just 3.5, that is the difference between Viru and others, weldone Viru... hope another century in your 100th test as well...

Posted by cricprasu on (November 15, 2012, 11:00 GMT)

back in action with a blistering knock.....viru-the ultimate entertainer along with gayle,K.P, watto, tamim, dilshan, bazz, A.B.D, warner etc....hope it will continue throughout the series....

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 15, 2012, 10:54 GMT)

and for the people who say that india cant fill the ground its thursday and people are at work and this is 12000 plus rowd the stadiums capacity is 50,000 to 60,000 not like egland where the stadium capacity is 15,000 and so if u get 10,000 people it looks its full india and australia have massive stadium capacity hope u get that mate

Posted by India_boy on (November 15, 2012, 10:54 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy...your statement implies that Indian conditions are the real tests for the bowlers eh? If batsmen scoring runs on batting wickets are frowned upon, what good are the bowlers claiming easy wickets on bowling pitches like Durban, Wellington, Oval or Perth, mostly with the help of pitches themselves? Your statement means Indian conditions, so good for batting, separate men from the boys as far as bowling is concerned, and Poms havent won anything in India in almost 3 decades, shows that you are carrying underage boys in your team?

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (November 15, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

Ok KingKongIn, So Swann might be spinning it abit, but i repeat, No bounce, nothing for the fast bowlers. A good pitch should offer abit to everyone.

Posted by Hammond on (November 15, 2012, 10:26 GMT)

@KingKongIn- Yep, a different kind of test cricket. A boring one that empties stadiums. I haven't even got it on the TV at the moment it bores me to tears- such a lifeless wicket with no balance between bat and ball.

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 15, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

this is a raging turner , like a raging bull on seeing red cloth, poms gonna get an innings defeat as spin is their achilles heel

Posted by path_finder_13 on (November 15, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

i wonder what will happen to england when they come out to bat and ashwin ojha and yuvi bowl.......can't wait........

Posted by KingKongIn on (November 15, 2012, 10:12 GMT)

over defence can cost the team....no sure why they are playing too slow...India have lost the advanctage of Viru's batting !!

Posted by jb633 on (November 15, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

@Front-Foot_Lunge- could not agree more I have been saying this for months. It actually makes me cringe reading some comments from our fabs bleating and boasting like they did post last ashes series. Since India toured our cricket has been woeful, India are a top side at home and I feel we are in for a long hard tour here. Must say it is good to see Sehwag blitz a ton though, just to shut all his doubters up.

Posted by KingKongIn on (November 15, 2012, 9:54 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy...but there is good spin...and its good. wa dont expect a sping friendly wicket in ENG how you could expect a fast bowling pitch in India. enjoy the different type of test cricket.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (November 15, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

lool India still cannot fill the ground no excuses. What is Sachin still doing? :)

Posted by spot_on on (November 15, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

Now I see Ashwin licking his fingers on seeing the pitch's reaction for Swann... LOL.. Pack up poms.. This one is a rank turner from day 2!!!!

Posted by Mervo on (November 15, 2012, 9:41 GMT)

This is a lovely ground with a green outfield, which means that India do not have to contrast that with a barren dry wicket of mud and sand. Frankly it is embarrassing. It is so slow that the fast bowlers are almost irrelevant and the ball was so damaged in the second session that it had to be replaced. Indian cricket will never improve unless they change the name to the game to Spin cricket - and then Pakistan would probably win.... One has to note as well that the aged Tendulkar could not cope. he really should go before his reputation is further tarnished.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (November 15, 2012, 9:39 GMT)

England cricket's worst aspects reappeared after their our ascent to number1. The sense of 'entitlement' that used to bubble underneath the surface, and was evident in ours grumblings when Australia humbled us in every contest, raised its ugly head. The result is we now never graft, have little or no work ethic, we're unimaginative and lack innovation on the pitch. These are exactly the sorts of qualities you need in India.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (November 15, 2012, 9:34 GMT)

Cricket in India is all about batsmen. No bounce, no movement, no swing, no good.

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 15, 2012, 9:23 GMT)

and what is everyone talking about last 7 test matches played in india 6 have had a result and only one draw test so how can u say that they are flat tracks and even srilanka have similar tracks but i dont see anyone complain because england managed a draw and australia won in srilanka and the only diffrence that they lose in india and that is why they complain

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

England team: - As predictable as their pace bowling attack. No imagination, no risk, therefore no win.

Posted by reality_check27 on (November 15, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

people wo are calling this a flat track let me tell u something it wont look flat when england will crumble for less than 250 when england was playing in australia and england was scoring 500 and 700 picthes were looking flat but when australia was scoring 100 and 200 we know that england batted well and same thing for australia vs south africa at gabba where the best attack in the world could not get a wicket on day 3 against australia but had to fight to save the martch thats what india is batting well tune in for england's batting and this picth will turn and u will see england all out for 250 or even less u can see swann bowling well so the picth is good if u bowl in the right area's and its not a rank turner either

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

congrats viru forthe century..........well done

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

yes sehwag the best opener in all formats of cricket..!!

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 15, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

hahaha swingers like tim and jimmy are left high and dry by sehwag , go INDIA go

Posted by scottnye on (November 15, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

huge mistake from England not playing Panesar. no issue if India want to prepare pitches that suit their bowlers, its a natural thing to do for any test playing nation. The way I see it, it is the nature of pitches in a country that dictate the type of bowlers who success in 1st class cricket and who subsequently make the test side, not the other way around. which is why when you (England) tour somewhere like India, you need to rethink the type of bowlers you pick in your team ie 2 spinners and fast bowlers who can vary it up a bit or bowl mean a la Angus Fraser.

However, I see this test being a boring draw. 2 high scoring 1st innings and we will be lucky to see 3 completed innings in 5 days.

Posted by Indian_Cricket_Fanatic on (November 15, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

Argh Sachin gone! I really wish he retires now. I wish India replace sachin with rahane for next test! .. great innings by sehwag, wish he'd been more patient!

Posted by kc69 on (November 15, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

@GerrardLK:You have got great sense of humour,Anyways great job by Indian batsmen till now but really disappointed to see Sachin and Gambhir's batting,i think BCCI should look for other replacements.

Posted by Hammond on (November 15, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

They should just decide the games at the toss and go home. Nothing much for the spectators to watch when the bowlers get no movement, no bounce and no swing. Plant the front foot at every ball because 95% of them don't get above your navel. What a tremendous farce of a cricket match. Larwood and Tyson would be trundlers on such a wicket. Pathetic.

Posted by gitapat on (November 15, 2012, 9:00 GMT)

It was ridiculous for Sachin to play two lofted shots in a row.He played as if he was pllaying T20 for Mumbai Indians!

Posted by ssenthil on (November 15, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

I think time has come for Sachin to hang his boots. On his 23rd Anniversary he couldn't even manage 23 runs. That's really sad but what is annoying is that the shot he has played at that stage of very early his Innings and what worst is just 1 more over to go for tea. Why he want to ascertain his domination in that 1 over by going over??? Silly shot I would say. This match is now in the hands of Indian future players. Pujara, Kohli and Ashwin might bat well in this pitch as Sehwag did. Dhoni might enjoy the pitch as well.

Posted by lsd123 on (November 15, 2012, 8:51 GMT)

India missed Dravid a lot. Dravid is the best TEST Batsman in last 2 decades. Sorry Sachin you are the no.1 ODI player and not the best test batsman in India.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 8:21 GMT)

Sachin on crease.. long live the KING..

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (November 15, 2012, 8:16 GMT)

@GerrardLK i hope to see your comments on 4th day :)

Posted by KingKongIn on (November 15, 2012, 8:13 GMT)

Here Sachin comes...I am nerveous !!

Posted by richardror on (November 15, 2012, 8:05 GMT)

What a pointless game. This is basically win the toss and win the match. Playing on a pitch which is impossible to get out unless you play a stupid shot. Unbelievably easy to bat on until the 4th and 5th day where it gets hard. No wonder cricket stadiums in India aren't being filled. They are making it boring!!!!!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

Now, the series decided !!! pray for easy days pommies !!!

Posted by jb633 on (November 15, 2012, 8:00 GMT)

The awkward moment when we realise the series has already gone. Whay are we picking trundlers here and why is Monty not playing. Selections are so short sighted. Looks like we are in for yet another pasting in India. No suprises here at least I put my money on India in this game. Hopeless

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 7:58 GMT)

proof positive that flat unsporting wickets are destroying test cricket...

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 7:51 GMT)

Now I am wondering whom Toby is calling "Lions at home"..

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

His wait and my wait is over. After 741 days the nawab of Najafgarh is back with a bang. Superb temperament displayed.

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (November 15, 2012, 7:11 GMT)

@Toby Ganguly, Oh yeah?? Better than England at least who are no good at home also

Posted by ssenthil on (November 15, 2012, 6:58 GMT)

I think it's time for throw the much talking and doing nothing Gambhir out of Indian side. He has been keep talking and doing nothing in Tests. There is a century partnership but Gauti had to survive many a time for that. I think it's time for benching another make it large under-performing player. We have seen how hard it's for H Singh to make a comeback and same will be for Gauti though Gauti still plays ODI will be an added advantage to make a claim but IMO he should go back to Ranji and score a lot to before make a comeback.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:36 GMT)

Congrats sachin...:) pls play atleast till the end of south african series

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:23 GMT)

omnious signs.. its going to be really tough for england.. they have to take atleast 3-4 wickets to bring india ubder pressure.. otherwise this match is going on the expected lines..

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:18 GMT)

Trent Boult Tim Southee Doug Bracewell were far better than these English Bowlers

Posted by AkDoN on (November 15, 2012, 6:17 GMT)

I support dhoni's decision of asking to make spinner friendly pitches...one thing is clear that he is not asking to make Batting heavens but giving a genuine spinners a little edge over. This is acceptable as wkts in ENG or AUS will favour to seam bowling. Same is the case here too...why to shout then.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:16 GMT)

It would be comprehensive threshing

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:16 GMT)

India will score over 600 and engalnd will have to defend it in 2 innings

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:10 GMT)

This English Team is more better than all previous visit to play spin. So, this series is not going to be one sided like in England.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:09 GMT)

India won what could prove to be an important toss and chose to bat in the opening Test of the series in Ahmedabad. On a new pitch that is expected to turn sharply as the match wears on, first innings runs are likely to prove key.

Posted by AkDoN on (November 15, 2012, 6:08 GMT)

I support dhoni's decision of asking to make spinner friendly pitches...one thing is clear that he is not asking to make Batting heavens but giving a genuine spinners a little edge over. This is acceptable as wkts in ENG or AUS will favour to seam bowling. Same is the case here too...why to shout then.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:07 GMT)

Sehwag Returns-2. This is after the famous Sehwag comeback in Australia.

Posted by spot_on on (November 15, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

Oh MY!!!!oh my, my , my , myyyyyyyy .... Flat track or not... ENGLAND are gettin it right on!!! Let us see what second session has for us!!!!!

Posted by ssenthil on (November 15, 2012, 6:02 GMT)

Welcome to India Poms. India off to a great start and England will be under hot sun for 2 days and then India will show how to bowl in this Pitch. Go India go, thrash the Poms.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

And the first couple of hours show how the next couple of months will be for England !!!!

Posted by SharonPaulHarris on (November 15, 2012, 5:51 GMT)

So far so good.... Still a lot more to do...

Posted by MasterClass on (November 15, 2012, 5:44 GMT)

Eng. have beaten Aus. in OZ recently so not exactly Lions at home, unlike India. But it's also true the are probably the worst players of spin among the top 6 test playing nations (Ind, SL, Pak, SA, Aus, Eng)...Let's see if they redeem themselves...not too much hope.

Posted by freo75 on (November 15, 2012, 5:44 GMT)

Looks like a shocking pitch - not suitable for test cricket

Posted by No_1_again on (November 15, 2012, 5:33 GMT)

What a boring match this going to be, each team to score 600+ and settle for a draw. LOL too early!

Posted by Y2SJ on (November 15, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

Sehwag scores a 50 in a flat track again. Nobody will be concerned when he fails in SA and Aus tours.

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 15, 2012, 5:31 GMT)

Bresnan sending down 75 mph gifts and Sehwag accepting with glee thrashing him over deep mid on . It's going to be tough for England to save the game if Sehwag scores a century .

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 15, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

sehwag have just got to his 5. On these pitches he could be a nightmare for England .

Posted by sandeepgla on (November 15, 2012, 5:18 GMT)

75 for no loss i say 1-0 to India.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 5:13 GMT)

Good start for both Indian openers on this very important match for them both.

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 15, 2012, 4:59 GMT)

Things not looking good for England . Anderson and bresnan looking harmless. Broad looks bit better than other 2 . Monty would have been better than any of the 3 pacers. No point playing 3 seamers in these conditions . Indians play reverse swing better than the most. And Bresnan looks too slow for india. England need to place a fielder on thirdman boundary and cut boundaries . They did not even tried to get Sehwag on the upper cut like other teams do . Signs are not good for England . They badly needed to win the toss.

Posted by GerrardLK on (November 15, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

India should consider themselves lucky to win the toss which may take the game to day 4-5. India winning the toss has moved the 3 day match to 5 day match. That is the only difference. But the end result is anyway going to be a humliation defeat for India.

Posted by CricketFanIndUS on (November 15, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

At 46-0 I like how Sehwag has been keeping the ball on the ground. At the beginning of the match I was concerned that this will be too difficult of a wicket to bat. If he keeps doing this he will score big.

Posted by Hammond on (November 15, 2012, 4:52 GMT)

Flatest pitch I have ever seen. No wonder test cricket is so poorly attended in India. Even I could make runs on that wicket against the England bowling. What a joke.

Posted by cricankul on (November 15, 2012, 4:51 GMT)

it is expected that indians should adopt a proper gameplan.they should not take the englishmen lightly.

Posted by Right_into_the_block_hole on (November 15, 2012, 4:39 GMT)

Another flat pitch high scoring match. Come on India work on those averages at home for face saving!

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 4:07 GMT)

Well done India, you played too good a game for us. Poor form from Cook has led to defeat. He should have know it would be a head. Well I have looked at the pitch and I am off back to bed. The rest of the game is pointless!!!! Game over before 11am with the toss. No wonder no one wants to watch this format in India.

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 4:06 GMT)

Good Luck Team India. Waiting for a great match.

Posted by baranasai on (November 15, 2012, 4:03 GMT)

Common Sachin/let us see the Old SRT/we hope he comes to good form and score heavily against this good English bowlers./I also want Indian bowlers to dominate against this good English batting.Let the openers do their job -the first session will decide the way the series will go/we want our Gauty and Viru score in a positive way-atleast 80 runs each

Posted by   on (November 15, 2012, 3:57 GMT)

Let the games begin. Lions v. Lions at home

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David Hopps David Hopps joined ESPNcricinfo as UK editor early in 2012. For the previous 20 years he was a senior cricket writer for the Guardian and covered England extensively during that time in all Test-playing nations. He also covered four Olympic Games and has written several cricket books, including collections of cricket quotations. He has been an avid amateur cricketer since he was 12, and so knows the pain of repeated failure only too well. The pile of untouched novels he plans to read, but rarely gets around to, is now almost touching the ceiling. He divides his time between the ESPNcricinfo office in Hammersmith and his beloved Yorkshire.
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