India v England, 1st Test, Ahmedabad, 3rd day November 17, 2012

England openers fight but India in command

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England 191 (Ojha 5-45, Ashwin 3-80) and 111 for 0 (Cook 74*, Compton 34*) trail India 521 for 8 dec by 219 runs
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Ahmedabad has suffered a steep drop recently in the number of vultures circling the city, but those not affected by urbanisation and poisoning will find plenty to encourage them as long as England's malady against spin bowling persists.

India took England's last seven first-innings wickets by tea, with their spinners R Ashwin and Pragyan Ojha hunting down eight wickets in the innings, and as the follow-on was confirmed, a lone vulture loomed overhead as if in expectation of a quick kill.

England sorely needed a remedy second time around that might not save the Test but would pronounce themselves still redoubtable opponents in the three Tests to follow. Alastair Cook and Nick Compton provided it with a contemplative, unbroken stand of 111 as the spinners failed to find the same purchase second time around.

India still lead by 219 runs with two days remaining, but here at last was an England batting pair, neither of them natural players of spin, working earnestly to come up with their own individual solutions. Cook was a captain leading by example, the more expansive as he picked off the bad balls; Compton, although more cautious, showed impressive resolve on debut.

Ojha came close to dismissing both, having Compton dropped in the gully on 23 by Virat Kohli, a tough chance by his boots, and seeing Aleem Dar refuse a convincing lbw appeal when Cook was 37. The BCCI will not accept DRS until it is 100 per cent efficient. Instead they got Dar, a fine umpire having a bad day, operating at a percentage he will wish to remain unrecorded.

England have no problems with spin. Psychologically, they have to say that. The evidence, though, remained contrary in their first innings as Ashwin and Ojha, taking four wickets on an exacting morning, became the latest combination to harry them to destruction in Asia.

Ojha, looping up his left-arm slows at a gentle pace, bowled Kevin Pietersen and had Ian Bell caught in the deep first ball - one of the most misconceived dismissals by an England batsman since Mike Gatting had a dabble at the reverse sweep in the 1987 World Cup final.

Ashwin accounted for Cook, whose accession to the England Test captaincy has come at a most unpromising juncture. Cook's methodical resistance took him to 41 before Ashwin caused him to reach for one that turned and edge to Virender Sehwag at first slip.

It was a gruelling morning for two highly-experienced umpires and with no review system in place the fear of giving a faulty dismissal in favour of the spinners seemingly soon crept into the consciousness.

Patel, on 4, looked stone dead, when he played across a delivery from Ashwin and was struck in front of middle. You did not need a predictive path, which the BCCI disallows television from showing, to know that Dar had erred. When Dar did give out Patel lbw to Umesh Yadav, in a flirting appearance of pace bowling, you did not need a predictive path to know that the ball was slipping down the leg side.

There had been enough clues on the second evening, never mind the past year, to suggest that England would face a troubled morning and so it proved to be. Ashwin and Ojha bowled splendidly on an increasingly responsive surface, finding more turn than Graeme Swann had achieved in what was virtually a single-handed assault for England on the first two days.

Right from the outset, England were up against it. Pietersen was at his most frenzied, bent upon using his feet to the spinners, but if he was constantly on the move it was not necessarily in the right direction. He nearly yorked himself in Ojha's first over and had to dive back into the crease as Gautam Gambhir tried to run him out from silly point. In Ojha's next over, he charged again and MS Dhoni missed a leg-side stumping.

When umpire Tony Hill turned down an lbw appeal from Ojha, he faced an interrogation from bowler and captain alike as to whether Pietersen had played a shot, probably on the grounds that a player of his quality could not conceivably miss the ball by such a distance.

It all ended when Pietersen, this time remaining in his crease, tried to stay inside the line of the ball and was bowled, missing one that turned only slightly by quite a distance. Left-arm spin gets into his head and likes what it finds.

Bell's first-ball dismissal was mental frailty dressed up as aggressive intent, an attempt to dance down the wicket to strike Ojha down the ground ending in a mis-hit off the bottom of the bat to Sachin Tendulkar at mid-off. To call it rabbit-in-the-headlights stuff was an insult to rabbits. It has yet to be proved that a rabbit sits in its burrow proclaiming: "I am going to be a tough rabbit, I am going to be an adventurous rabbit. I have no idea about the speed of the car or the lie of the road, I am going to take on this car from the start, come what may." Or maybe they do and they are the ones that get splattered.

Cook and Patel, although finding few scoring opportunities, did at least have the wherewithal to try to unravel India's spin-bowling mysteries. Cook's tendency to fall over on leg stump was probed, but he survived it, swept with certainty at times, and was the one England player who could be dismissed with pride intact.

England could also have lost Matt Prior to an inviting full toss when he pulled straight to deep-square leg where Zaheer Khan was unable to hold a running catch. England were at least spared that embarrassment.

Prior marshalled some late-order resistance against the old ball - 94 for the last three wickets - until he became the fifth victim for Ojha, bowled seeking a boundary to raise his fifty. Swann, the best player of spin in England's lower order, found himself coming in at No. 11 and faced two balls, his chief involvement to check with India if they intended to make England bat again.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | November 18, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @GRVJPR on (November 17 2012, 14:43 PM GMT) DRS is about giving more correct decisions , not about giving bowlers cheap wickets. How do you work out that Ajmal gets cheap wickets due to DRS? If any bowler gets a wicket deemed incorrect by the batsmen then (provided the batsmen have not wasted both reviews) if he appeals it (and it is proven the batsman is right) will be given NOT OUT therefore denying the bowler the wicket and if a bowler appeals using DRS , it has to be nailed on to get the decision. Please publish this time

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | November 18, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    few fans here saying india sud'nt produce such pitches bcoz it will never help india abroad,now my question is does English Pitches help Eng to play better in Subcontinent?what is the use of making same kind of pitches everywhere?then there r no more challenges left to perform in different conditions and this is what cricket is all about i.e perform in different conditions and prove yourself..y is that instead of asking ur own english team to perform on different condition u English fans always moan about Subcontinent pitches?will u fans better ask ur player to perform rather than giving silly excuses..Thanks..cricinfo pls publish

  • POSTED BY BDabuNayeemAisDU on | November 18, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    Sehwag's test Averages: 35 in BD, 28 in ENG, 20 in NZ, and 25 in SA. Yeah, my last comment about him being a Flat Track Bully still stands! Let me give you Tamim's Averages: 67 in ENG, 50 in NZ, and 50 in WI. Tamim has better average away from home in faster pitches than he has at home. And BD produced a Tamim Iqbal within 12 years of playing test cricket. show me on Indian cricketer who averaged 67 in England in the first 12 years on India playing test cricket. I will give you the answer before you waste any time looking for this answer: there is none.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    @Htc-Android, yup mate...that's why India has been thrashing SL everywhere in all forms of cricket.

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | November 18, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    Couple of positives from an Eng fan here. After being denied any spin or spin conditions we will have no excuse going into the rest of the series. Bell is off. As for this match, if Eng put together a few decent partnerships and make Ind bat again we could be in for a really good show. Odds are that we will go 1-0 down but who knows!! As for Ind, these tactics will assure them they remain a dominant force at home....and the opposite abroad.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2012, 1:28 GMT

    India will wrap up things before tea. Congrats India for the innings victory. Next game in Mumbai where lot of things have happened for the past few days. High security expected.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | November 18, 2012, 1:15 GMT

    As I've said before, England have been good to create enough chances in most of their games lately to have held their own. One of their main issues is that they have not been good enough in the field to take those chances and, all credit to their opposition, they have been made to pay dearly. Pujara had a let-off early here and ended up with a double-hundred. The England openers have been fighting hard here but they have both had strokes of luck. They need to do what their opposition have been doing: really make it count. It's obviously going to take far more than just the openers doing well to pull this one out of the fire. If Ian Bell doesn't do well in this second innings and the his replacement, presumably Jonny Bairstow, does well in the next game, what will the England selectors do for the third game?

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | November 18, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    England will make hundreds on today and expose the weakness of these overrated spinners from india. Even club level spinners from Sl better than Indian spinners. at any given day i would rate herath better than Bhaji, ashwin, ojha.etc.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | November 18, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    @Meety: Cost & Reliability drive any product whether it be cars or DRS. Rahul Dravid was given out three times in the England Vs. India Test series during the Indian Tour of England last year despite DRS being used. In fact all 3 cases the decision was in conclusive even with DRS. How do you call it "Reliable" when the decisions are inconclusive?There are several interpretational matters still up in the air & third Umpire steps in to make a decison! The so called snickometer & ball tracking are very questionable. If you want more than 2 challenges you have to be 100% right every time you challenge. I would expect any good Umpire to be perfectly capable of Judging the "100% out decision" correctly. DRS used in borderline cases has not helped & there are literally dozens of examples in this category. Why not perfect it first before spending huge sums to use it? Let every National Cricket Board contribute a sum of money to perfect it.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    @dunger.bob on (November 17 2012, 23:05 PM GMT) - mate I 100% agree re: Yadav. There is something about the lad that impresses me. He looks like a bloke who won't do the sub-cont. thing & slow down. He looks physically stronger than any Indian cricketer I have seen too. IF India are ever going to earn respect overseas - him, Ishant & Zaheer need to be fit & firing 100%! I hope Yadav has an injuey free rest of his career, he's a good one IMO!

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | November 18, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @GRVJPR on (November 17 2012, 14:43 PM GMT) DRS is about giving more correct decisions , not about giving bowlers cheap wickets. How do you work out that Ajmal gets cheap wickets due to DRS? If any bowler gets a wicket deemed incorrect by the batsmen then (provided the batsmen have not wasted both reviews) if he appeals it (and it is proven the batsman is right) will be given NOT OUT therefore denying the bowler the wicket and if a bowler appeals using DRS , it has to be nailed on to get the decision. Please publish this time

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | November 18, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    few fans here saying india sud'nt produce such pitches bcoz it will never help india abroad,now my question is does English Pitches help Eng to play better in Subcontinent?what is the use of making same kind of pitches everywhere?then there r no more challenges left to perform in different conditions and this is what cricket is all about i.e perform in different conditions and prove yourself..y is that instead of asking ur own english team to perform on different condition u English fans always moan about Subcontinent pitches?will u fans better ask ur player to perform rather than giving silly excuses..Thanks..cricinfo pls publish

  • POSTED BY BDabuNayeemAisDU on | November 18, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    Sehwag's test Averages: 35 in BD, 28 in ENG, 20 in NZ, and 25 in SA. Yeah, my last comment about him being a Flat Track Bully still stands! Let me give you Tamim's Averages: 67 in ENG, 50 in NZ, and 50 in WI. Tamim has better average away from home in faster pitches than he has at home. And BD produced a Tamim Iqbal within 12 years of playing test cricket. show me on Indian cricketer who averaged 67 in England in the first 12 years on India playing test cricket. I will give you the answer before you waste any time looking for this answer: there is none.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    @Htc-Android, yup mate...that's why India has been thrashing SL everywhere in all forms of cricket.

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | November 18, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    Couple of positives from an Eng fan here. After being denied any spin or spin conditions we will have no excuse going into the rest of the series. Bell is off. As for this match, if Eng put together a few decent partnerships and make Ind bat again we could be in for a really good show. Odds are that we will go 1-0 down but who knows!! As for Ind, these tactics will assure them they remain a dominant force at home....and the opposite abroad.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2012, 1:28 GMT

    India will wrap up things before tea. Congrats India for the innings victory. Next game in Mumbai where lot of things have happened for the past few days. High security expected.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | November 18, 2012, 1:15 GMT

    As I've said before, England have been good to create enough chances in most of their games lately to have held their own. One of their main issues is that they have not been good enough in the field to take those chances and, all credit to their opposition, they have been made to pay dearly. Pujara had a let-off early here and ended up with a double-hundred. The England openers have been fighting hard here but they have both had strokes of luck. They need to do what their opposition have been doing: really make it count. It's obviously going to take far more than just the openers doing well to pull this one out of the fire. If Ian Bell doesn't do well in this second innings and the his replacement, presumably Jonny Bairstow, does well in the next game, what will the England selectors do for the third game?

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | November 18, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    England will make hundreds on today and expose the weakness of these overrated spinners from india. Even club level spinners from Sl better than Indian spinners. at any given day i would rate herath better than Bhaji, ashwin, ojha.etc.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | November 18, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    @Meety: Cost & Reliability drive any product whether it be cars or DRS. Rahul Dravid was given out three times in the England Vs. India Test series during the Indian Tour of England last year despite DRS being used. In fact all 3 cases the decision was in conclusive even with DRS. How do you call it "Reliable" when the decisions are inconclusive?There are several interpretational matters still up in the air & third Umpire steps in to make a decison! The so called snickometer & ball tracking are very questionable. If you want more than 2 challenges you have to be 100% right every time you challenge. I would expect any good Umpire to be perfectly capable of Judging the "100% out decision" correctly. DRS used in borderline cases has not helped & there are literally dozens of examples in this category. Why not perfect it first before spending huge sums to use it? Let every National Cricket Board contribute a sum of money to perfect it.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    @dunger.bob on (November 17 2012, 23:05 PM GMT) - mate I 100% agree re: Yadav. There is something about the lad that impresses me. He looks like a bloke who won't do the sub-cont. thing & slow down. He looks physically stronger than any Indian cricketer I have seen too. IF India are ever going to earn respect overseas - him, Ishant & Zaheer need to be fit & firing 100%! I hope Yadav has an injuey free rest of his career, he's a good one IMO!

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | November 18, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke If the pitch was indeed as bad as you claimed it is, then how on earth would England score 110/0 no loss after stumbling to 191 in the first? The answer is simple, English batsmen did not apply themselves. They were more intent on charging down the track(KP, Bell etc.,) and slogging the ball out of the park, to force the batsmen on the defensive. This was the answer my 6 yr old nephew(who already plays cricket in his school) had given me when I asked him what he thought about today's game. I will leave it for you to read your comment again and realize how amateurish it was. Same goes for the other "experts" who posted comments similar to yours! Pitches in UAE were 10 times more worse than this. I dont recall seeing any hundred run partnership for any wicket, from either of the two teams in all of the three games, let alone 100 run opening stands from both teams in the very first test!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 23:57 GMT

    Aditya I would agree re the pitch - bragging rights are only as good as the last performance. I suspect you will hold them at the end of this tour - however its not over yet and if the English don't panic then your boys might have a tricky 100-150 to chase ... I would tether you gloating horse for a few hours at least Re last test series - The Indians need to hammer the English not just win to eradicate that - Maybe they will :) Maybe they will not

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 23:52 GMT

    Quality bowlling by the Indians coupled with some dreadful shot selection - Worse perhaps because of the worse team selection - I suspect Monty will play T2 Still Cook and D2 showed resolve and if they bat well and get even a small lead the last day could be interesting - Games not over to the fat desi sings as they say Good knock by Cook needs to continue and no silly shots Umpires... Give them a break they are under immense pressure and have become accustomed to the DRS - More right than wrong with DRS but we can see why the Indians dont want it since it favours there game - Nothing wrong with that BTW any chance of rain Aggers??? Milllhouse - Bell wants shooting for that play. He is a good player but as started the tour looking like a man in fear. Everything about it was bad

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | November 17, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    @Aditya kadambi By that same token do you admit that the pitches in England were not "green tops"? And that your batsmen were just "lame" against pace, seam and swing? I doubt you will but I hope you see that your point is exactly the same when applied to last year over here. And what has the century got to do with anything? As far as I'm aware a series win is awarded when one series particular series is won not calculated over a century. Whoever won the last series has the "bragging rights" and if you win the series then, congratulations you will have won them in Test cricket. Also more importantly you will have won a cricket series.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | November 17, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    DRS should be made mandatory as umpires these days are making too many errors. The quality of umpires has gone down. Unless ICC can have better, competent or trained umpires officiating. While we find in most sports human umpires are there to control games, technology should be made available as an assistance tool only. It will also help alleviate decisions where Asian,African or European umpires are inclined to favour their own blocks.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | November 17, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    Pretty good fight back by England in the 2nd innings. Why no overs for Yuvraj in 2nd innings?? Is Tendulkar playing as a bowler?? He is neither a bowler, nor a batsman. We need to get rid of him ASAP.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | November 17, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    @ india666666 on (November 17 2012, 14:28 PM GMT) : Not unimpressive at all. Yadav was as quick as any of the Aussies in Aus. last time. Hit 150+ a number of times. I like him and I know many other Aussies think he is a talent as well. @ GRVJPR on (November 17 2012, 14:43 PM GMT) : Will India still be right and you still be 100% behind their stance on DRS when India loses a game via a few bad decisions. Its easy to say "blow it" when you're winning. @ Harmony 111: "the prev test between SA and Oz again showed some glaring shortcomings of DRS isn't it?" .. would you care to elaborate. I watched nearly every ball bowled in that match and can recall NO problems with the DRS at all. You're not just making that up are you?

  • POSTED BY jango_moh on | November 17, 2012, 22:54 GMT

    im an indian fan, i get SKY sports coverage, i lost count of how many times the commentators kept accusing india about not using DRS, a few times is tolerable, but they kept doing it the whole time, this is atrocious... pls cover what is going on in the game, and not what could have been.... they talk more about speculative things rather than actual stuff... i saw yadav getting reverse swing, and the commentators are talking about some random stuff, and later they say "we hvnt seen reverse swing yet", r they even watching the game closely??

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 17, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    @Nampally on (November 17 2012, 19:57 PM GMT) - mate you have made that many errors of fact in your comment it's not funny. 1) The use of UDRS has not been perfect due to tampering with formats, 2) The inventer of UDRS actually said he would not use it for line-ball decisions - not that it was flawed. 3) The cost of the technology is artificially high for several reasons, the technology is new & it is not in full use everywhere, simple Supply & Demand will ensure it's reduction, 4)IF you make correct challenges, you can have FAR more than "Just 2/innings" - SURELY you must of known that? 5) There is not much point spending money on UDRS until the LAST remaining nation gets on board. There are many other subjective reasons why the BCCI have not got on board - like UDRS is possibly anti-batsmen & India are a batting nation & the BCCI has no investment in the UDRS & that = no profit. My 5 points are fact - the last 2 we all know is PROBABLY right but not really provable!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    @Dear Ebglish fans:This pitch is not a dustbowl.I am happy that for once the ahmedabad pitch is result oriented.They have produced enough flat roads in the past and I am happy to see taht change.Back to the dustbowl point-There is no pace or bounce on this pitch.There is turn & that is about it. The fact that your batsmen struggle so hard to score on this pitch illustrates how lame you are against spin. This series is being played for bragging rights in this century.You had fun in the last century.In this century, it's 5 wins to India and 6 to england.Also keep in mind that the number of tests played in India would be 8 & the same number in england is 11.At the end of this series, 11 tests in england and 12 in india would be the final total.Seems fair enough?If India win 4-0, we get bragging rights in this century.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    1)To the english fans complaining about DRS:3 decisions went in your favour and only 1 in ours.Let's move on.DRS flopped miserably in england when we went over esp HotSpot. 2)To the clowns who genuinely believe england are looking competitive:An innings defeat is competitive in what universe?

  • POSTED BY Prinspire.com on | November 17, 2012, 22:06 GMT

    @phoenixsteve: You have absolutely nailed it :)

  • POSTED BY Jaffa79 on | November 17, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    Dreadful performance in the first inings from England. I respect Bell's desire to be positive but come on! Ridiculous shot selection. I think we can still draw this but will take herculean efforts from the batters. I like Compton! Proper old school! He is the new Chris Tavare.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 21:37 GMT

    Kidderminster groundsman in 2011 was suspended for 6 weeks for a pitch that was better held together than this one. A hot dry start to the season etc, but by day two it was almost as bad as this. He left to work in Australia afterwards (nothing to do with cricket). So how can a pitch not suitable for low league regional cricket in the uk be a test pitch in India?

  • POSTED BY Haleos on | November 17, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    What Viru said is true. England are no bangladesh. INdia have to work kard to get the 10 remaining wickets.

  • POSTED BY MattyP1979 on | November 17, 2012, 21:16 GMT

    Actually turning out to be quite a decent match. Although Eng will no doubt go 1-0 down after this match I would love to see some fight from the lads. Making Ind bat again has to be the goal, and if we can do it we can take some heart into the next match. Monty not playing is still a mistery to me, and his inclusion in the next match is a must.

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | November 17, 2012, 20:54 GMT

    The South African pace attack made England look ordinary, the spin skill of Pakistan made England look ordinary, Indias attack makes England look competitive.

  • POSTED BY sachinisawesome on | November 17, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    @ Tlotoxl u r lacking sense here. England has just had one gud session.

  • POSTED BY TendulkarDgr8 on | November 17, 2012, 20:14 GMT

    @yorkshire-86 so according to you real cricket is being played only from the last 7 or 8 years where DRS is being employed and the other 100 odd years of the game cant even be considered as real cricket??

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | November 17, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    @Ditej garg- please re read my comment my friend, i think you have me confused with my yorkshire colleague..my point was about the wicket and like you, i am not on here to fight here either..just debate...

  • POSTED BY MartinC on | November 17, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    Good performance from India, applying pressure and bowling with good speeds and variations. However some very ordinary batting at best from Engkand in the first innings but at least we showed some fight in the second innings. The pitch is not a minefield though it will wear more as the game progresses. It's so slow though that once a batsmen gets in they can dig in. Cook and Trott are the key wickets - both can bat long and that's what's needed here for England.

    Finally if there was any remaining argument for why DRS should not be mandatory today put it to rest.

  • POSTED BY Kirru_Viru on | November 17, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    4 days should DO for this test i feel !!

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | November 17, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy: I don't think the Indian Fans are worried or scared of DRS. At the momemt DRS is so unreliable that you are no better off withiut it. Even the inventer of this technology admitted how flawed it is. Secondly, why pay such high Fee for its use when it is unreliable? Some one even went to the extent of stating that BCCI are in "Stone Age" i.e., going with the Umpires. I like to ask him how many challenges do you get to question the Umpire's decision?Just 2/innings. Are you not back to "Stone Age" after that? There were at least 4 sure LBW's missed on Day 3. Why doesn't ICC focus on making DRS reliable by spending some funds on it? What is the role of ICC if it is doing nothing to improve the game. Sir, you should address this to ICC & instead blame the Indian Fans. We all want fair & impartial decisions. Also I don't speak for BCCI,Right!

  • POSTED BY OzWally on | November 17, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    My comments after Day 1 still stand, no team will make 300 after the 1st innings of the match, the pitch was already deteriorating that badly. I have no problem with a pitch spinning if both sides have an equal opportunity. Over the last 10 years the team batting first in tests played in India has won or drawn the match 71% of the time. Even the commentators were opining whether it is fair that a side winning the toss has such an unfair advantage.

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | November 17, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    Find it ironic that people complain about umpiring decisions yet refuse to put pressure on their boards to use DRS. ...

  • POSTED BY cric_fan123 on | November 17, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    For love of God, can we have some consistency on the DRS debate? India/BCCI will never support DRS in its current form, come what may.Even if we have a 4/4 bad decisions like today. Yes they will whine about umpiring but no DRS, never.

    Whereas English fans/commentators are fickle. First they say DRS works and its good. Then claim vaseline can let you get away with hotspot edges. They go to UAE and then whine about umpires giving marginal LBWs cause they know DRS will back them. So let me get this straight, they want a system which can be outdone by vaseline, seriously?! why not hair gel made out of baby seal centrifuged at 2000rpm for 4hrs in medium cold condition. And if too many LBWs go against them, they can whine about DRS enabling marginal LBWs. Why not simply say "we want the whole universe should circle around us and we should judge what is permittable in DRS and whats not (like vaseline induced "I heard" edges and plumb-marginal LBWs). if we say it, then its the gospel truth.

  • POSTED BY Tlotoxl on | November 17, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    At least England have had more good sessions in 3 days of play this series than India had in the entire 4 tests when India came to England last time, India's revenge mission has failed already!

  • POSTED BY krvij on | November 17, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy on (November 17 2012, 16:42 PM GMT) - Please understand that BCCI is against DRS and it does not necessarily reflect the view of all Indian cricket fans. Not all are totally happy with the way BCCI is run. I, being an Indian fan personally like DRS and its common sense to use technology which will improve the game. It brings fairness. Having said that, I do have concerns on the reliability of the technology and possibility of it being compromised, particularly on the Hawk eye projections. Its ok for umpires to take guidance from it but it should not take over umpiring. Also I wonder why do we need a system for challenging umpires, rather umpires should be given these tools for their decision making like the way it happens for run out decisions!

  • POSTED BY recycle-bin-is-empty on | November 17, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    @Mark Taylor What exactly makes you think that this pitch is not suited for seamers ?? I dont know how many of the English posters have seen this match or they are just writing comments by looking at the scorecard. But just to let you know, both the Indian seamers Yadav and Zak were regularly clocking around 140+ KPH and were constantly troubling the English batsmen. English fast bowlers find it hard because of maybe inexperince, in SC unless you are an extremely fast bowler, there is no point in delivering short pitch bowling. It will be a fodder to Sehwag and co. If you see the highlights, you will see how Zak and Yadav bowled excellently on this "flat"(according to some of the posters here)pitch,they knew very well where to pitch the ball and regularly bowled length deliveries at the wicket.

    This is an excellent pitch capable of producing result in 4 days time, i dont get why some people here think it is "flat" wicket. And by no means it is a rank turner, you will see it ahead.

  • POSTED BY bplusa on | November 17, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    This match has entered in an interesting phase mainly due to fantastic opening stand in the 2nd inning by English openers.I think India had committed a strategic mistake by following on England. Pre- lunch play on the 4th day 'll determine the course of this match. If England manage to survive this phase with minimum loss of wickets (say one or two) and add 90-100 runs , the match 'll become more interesting considering the fact that India have to bat last.

  • POSTED BY phoenixsteve on | November 17, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    Not a great day to be an English supporter - but all is not yet lost! Indeed it's POSSIBLE that the enforcement of the follow on could see an England victory? Here's the scene.... end of day 4 England are 425 for 6 with Prior blazing away and KP and Cooke both completing big hundreds. Day 5 arrives and a deflated and tired Indian team finally dismisses England 20 minutes before luch for 525. India need close to 200 to win and slogger Sehwag goes in the first over. Kohli gets a corker that keeps low and at lunch India are 12 for 2. With 180 or so needed the ball starts turning alarmingly and the bounce is all over the place! Swann ends up with 6 -for 65 and KP and Patel both chip in. India are dismissed with 45 minutes to go all out for 150. Questionable LBW decisions see Indians fans demanding DRS and Tendulkar reaches for the pension book! England win the test (against all odds) and then win the toss in the next 3 tests. Could happen, might happen, hope so! COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Good fightback by england in second innings , that should make day 4 and 5 interesting . amusing to see some people already complaining @ the pitch . Pls be matured enough to understand that every country has different soil /climatic conditions and hence the pitch is according to that . As said umpteen times in this forum , an all around team should excel in all conditions and not complain @ pitch to be seen as a sore loser . Sadly no world team currently has that skill except may be South Africa to a certain extent .

  • POSTED BY adis26 on | November 17, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    Those who feel India's bowling was ordinary were probably watching a completely different game than this one...I have never seen Pieterson struggle like this during batting. The morning session especially was top quality spin intimation and it worked like a charm. Bell's fall for first is an example of how India's hold on the batsmen before him affected him while he waited at the pavilion. And about DRS, I see what you're saying - as an India fan I also disagree with BCCI's stance but that said -there were SEVERAL Lbw shouts that went England's way so if you guys can stop whining about it, it will only do you good. India's had its away season and they have completed their pathetic show away. And our team deserves some home time again to regain confidence back before its next away season. It is our time at home now and we will play to our advantages. You may continue calling us flat track bullies but keep this in mind it only masks your deliquencies against spin and pressure.

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | November 17, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    @ASHIK khan they are professionals not machines . Umpiring is the most thankless job . Not every decision reviewed. Thats why teams get 2 reviews per innings . By your logic Tech should not be used for runouts or helmets should not used by batsman like old days because they are professional too .

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | November 17, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    @jackiethepen on (November 17 2012, 12:30 PM GMT) He probably did something of note in the field which you usually mention when he fails with the bat

  • POSTED BY sk12 on | November 17, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    The 2nd proves one thing though - India did NOT get the better conditions to bat on. The pitch has played almost the same throughout, the ball was turnign right from the first day. Just that Eng didnt have the bowlers to exploit it (excp Swann) and their batting was, well, pathetic.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | November 17, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Well played Ojha/Ashwin.Awful for Eng with just the smallest glimmer of light at the end.I still didn't see huge improvements from Nick and Cook.KP/Bell (who many said are our best players of spin)were both out to poor shots.Re Bell to me there is positive intent and desperation and that was the shot of a man who is not comfortable in SC conditions against spin.I questioned his place in the side before the series.Maybe he'll prove me wrong but why pick someone for 1 test who has a proven record of being poor against spin in SC conditions?Seems we have too many golden boys who are irreplaceable (acc to Flower etc) no matter how badly we do.Cook/Broad came through bad runs but sticking with out of form players is ok if you are still winning but not if it's costing matches/series. It seems England are unwilling to make/try tactical/selection etc changes. Again there's the saying "If it aint broke ... " but how broke does it have to be before they realise it needs fixing?

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | November 17, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    @ Ditej Garg: Yep. I said the same thing in my comment that not using DRS can't be an excuse to justify poor umpiring just like the red lights working or not working should not mean we stop following traffic rules. The RoW seems to think that DRS is the solution to poor umpiring but neither is the system perfect in theory nor is it good enough in implementation for eg what if an umpire gives a poor decision AFTER the referrals have been used up? What then? And what about the various issues with the projections made by its components? The Hot Spot seems not to work in some cases while the Hawk Eye is unable to calculate the likely path if the ball is too full. What is worse is that DRS is not used as an independent, whole-sole tool but as a corroboration for the umpire's opinion and this means that the same event will be deemed to be OUT or NOT OUT as per the umpire's decision. This policy may have its merits but it is somewhat counter-intuitive to most of us. But RoW won't get this.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    Don't worry Indian spinners will come handy again tomorrow.....Tomorrow is the 4th day so, pitch ll be more slow and sluggish.....

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Isn't Bell going home after this game regardless of what happens ? Good sensible batting from Cook and Compton, but can they settle in again for an hour or two again tomorrow ? Oh and all umpires have bad days, that's one of the reasons why DRS came in.

  • POSTED BY Sami_P on | November 17, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    I pity the umpires, they had never seen a pitch so bad one ball turns way beyond what is normally expected, another ball does not turn, then there is the ball keeping way too low. I do not know how this pitch which was newly laid was not even tested before a for a top test match was played on it. There was a shot I remember that went for a four where the ball was just pitched slightly outside off stump and the ball hardly rose 6 inches but one could see a cloud of dust flying from the spot where the ball landed. Yes England made some mistakes in selecting 3 pacers and the pitch towards the end of day 2 was terrible where even the best of batsmen would make a error. But, a lesson should be learned from this test, THERE IS A REASON WHY A MAT IS USED ON PITCHES IN LOWER LEVEL CRICKET MATCHES. The reason for that is small teams do not have enough funding to maintain a good pitch, but, at least that way an attempt is made to make the playing field even. Maybe its time for BCCI to use a MAT.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | November 17, 2012, 17:20 GMT

    A little respite here for England it would seem. But let me tell you, days 4 and 5 in India are a different kettle of fish. India should try and wrap it up by tomorrow. They need to continue to frustrate England by spin and not allow Zaheer or Yadav to bowl much unless both are getting prodigious reverse swing. One thing is for sure, both of our seamers look more likely to get wickets than all 3 of them England quicks combined. Our bowlers simply don't get the kind of credit they deserve. And here on Cricinfo, we have talk about HOW the England batsmen are actually making our spinners look good. When will these people LEARN to play spin I keep thinking !!!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    i know u all ask DRS.. what is the need of umpires if u want DRS for all the decisions.. so are the people standing on the middle are fools? are they scapegoats? they have their own knowledge and they are qualified personnel.. not everyone becomes an umpire. if u cant give correct decisions then why umpires? u can hav only machines to monitor the matches.. this is ridiculuos.. accept the fact umpiring was poor and dont blame bcci for not using DRS. lets see. if u have 2 challenges and both have failed and after the challenges are over what will u do if a umpire gives a shocker? nothing... so this is same case.. we saw how aussies got angry when DRS was overturned against them against SA. so instead of putting blame on bcci quality umpires should be employed for matches and old ones should be asked for retirement.. just like steve bucknor did..

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    Last session proves England will have a better series than they had in the UAE. Nothing special in India's bowling to be honest. I can see England getting atleast a draw in the series. Patel's useless get monty in the side!

  • POSTED BY sachin_vvsfan on | November 17, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Nothing to take away from Cook But the top performer of the day is Aleem dar who of late is giving many bad decisions. Can't believe he turned down ojhas straight lbw appeal against cook in 2nd innings. Not expected from someone of his stature. @David Hopps. I think it was sehwag (not kholi) who dropped compton. And i liked the rabbit comparsion LOL

  • POSTED BY Mitch1066 on | November 17, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Least England by second inning showing sum fight cept sadly contest was already over best we can hope is for draw as way Indian have played this far in test likely victory England let them off the hook in there only innings where India have just punished England. This kinda India wanted see in England though kinda want two way contest as both teams do have good players I think swann did well compared with three spinners as he at disadvantage when our second spinner is part timer I agree with boycott the side for second test if spin track should be 1 cook 2 Compton 3 trott 4 pietersen 5 Patel 6 bestow 7 prior 8 broad 9 swann 10 Anderson 11 panesar

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | November 17, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    Why are Indian fans scared of the globally accepted and celebrated DRS?. I can only assume its the fear of change. Life is surely about moving forward.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    @Barry Glynn , @da_man and @ Yorkslanka...

    Where did you even read the word DRS in my comment?? First of all, what I think of DRS doesn't matter..I am not a BCCI member.. Secondly, I am neutral about its use and I concentrate on cricket and its technicalities and not on the technicalities the technology possesses in cricket..

    thirdly, if you guys think it's about me whining about DRS and all..then I think you should reconsider reading my comment.. Be there DRS or not, the STANDARD OF UMPIRING shouldn't fall to a level where an umpire misses 4 out of 4... I mean, come on, 10 years back when there was no DRS debate, did you guys expect an umpire to give all the decisions wrong?? No.. right? I am not here to argue because I am least bothered about DRS nuisance plus I think it's about cricket and only cricket...

    An umpire who had been given ICC umpire of the year shouldn't fail miserably, afterall he was awarded on the basis of his accuracy..!

  • POSTED BY Amit68 on | November 17, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    Both England and Bangladesh did their best to prove Sehwag wrong in their respective first innings!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    I think the biggest positive for the day is Zaheer Khan. He looks fit and kicking again, and is bowling close to 85 mph regulary again. The funny aspect of it all, however, is how Englishmen are still believing that Broad, Anderson and most funnily, Bresnan are inherently better than India's seamers. If you all know subtraction, Umesh was still bowling some 15 kph faster than Broad was bowling in the first; in the last session...immaterial though, because reverse swing is the most important aspect in the subcontinent, and Broad, Anderson and funnily enough, Bresnan, do not have the inherent ability to reverse the ball...

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | November 17, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    England looking good in the 2nd innings. I wonder if Dhoni even entertained the thought of not enforcing the follow-on because despite a 330 run the last 3 English wickets put on almost 100 runs and I would not want to be batting last on this surface against Swann assuming England can get a 100 run lead which is no beyond realms of possiblility with KP to come. Indian bowlers will have to be on top of their game tomorrow because this pitch has not deteriorated as expected.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    Wonderful second outing by poms. Story would have been entirely differnet had it been toss won by poms and they bat first. India lost 7 of their 8 wickets to spin and under pressure they would have faltered more with out of form openers and rooky new batsmen. England will be respected for their second innings resolve shrugging the indian spin attack as it is the only ploy that india had up the sleeve and in modern day it is not difficult to study and trends and plan against the. May be lack of above average spin during warmups worked in the first innings and it became an open secret in the second innings.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    Very well written article.Loved the rabbits in the headlights part.

  • POSTED BY Garp on | November 17, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    England has had the same problem for years now and it appears they have no desire to correct it. Everyone knows the England batsmen can not play proper spinners but yet they spend the last 3 months again sitting at home not even playing County cricket. We haven't had a true pace bowler since Harmisson and Flintoff retired. The current crop of bowlers have always been medium pace bowlers, the occasional 87 mph ball does not make you a fast bowler. A fast bowlers hits the 87-92mph range every ball, Broad, Bresnan, and Anderson average 82mph. Then the new bowling policy is an outright joke in itself, like Beefy has always said a bowler needs to bowl but in todays England setup a bowler is never allowed to bowl the required overs to get into bowling shape. Sure this may prolong their longevity in the sport but what good is a bunch of med pace bowlers who basically are all the same and who also get slaughtered by the top batsmen from every country? Absolutely none!!!

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | November 17, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    It was a mixed day for India. After getting the top batsmen out, India let the England tail wag & the bottom 4 scored more than the top 4. In the second innings, England took the lesson from their bottom order & this time the openers batted well. The Test is long way from over. Indian bowlers did not perform well in the second innings when the pitch should have been worse than in the first. But was it? Is it an improving pitch or is it breaking up? Day 4 will answer this question. India let the game slip quite a bit after capturing the top 6 England wkts. Dhoni's bowling changes & field placing were strange. Yuvraj did not bowl a single ball in the second innings & just 3 overs in the first. ZAK just bowled a over in the second innings. This leaves one wondering about their fitness. The Umpiring was poor & Cook, Patel, KP all benefitted by missed LBW's. India need to significantly step up their performance if they wish to Win!. How could England score 111-0, after poor first innings?

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | November 17, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    @Grvpr in the last series agains Nz it was indians who got some cheap wickets and Nz were getting none thats why BCCI has stand by its stance of opposing DRS . And how can u call Azmal got cheap wickets??? . DRS is not unfair. It depends on the umpires officiating. Some umpires like to give lbws and while others hesitate a bit . In this match so far the attitude of the umpires has been to be reluctant to give out to lbws . However if some umpire with a tendancy to give more lbws was officiating we could have seen far more lbws .DRS supports the umpire in case of close calls .. When all other nations have accepted India with all its power and influence does not want DRS while with all the money BCCI could have helped improved DRS. This is like USA not sigining Kyoto protocol . And I am an Indian fan by the way but like some English cricketers like Kp finn cook and Trott etc. But I want india to win and I feel DRS would help make the game better. Its not perfect bt better than naked eye with one single shot at deciding what has happened and umpires having to make lots of guesswork . And for match situation it's most likely that India would wrap up the match sometime 2morrow . Bt England should keep fighting even if they lose to take some momentum to to the next game.

  • POSTED BY Hobbart on | November 17, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    @Darren : I second you on the opinion that Indian bowlers are not to be feared. I feel the first few innings will portray the trailing effect of failures of English batsmen against spin recently, however I expect some of them to show character as the series progresses. I believe Finn can be useful with Panesar as the second spinner. The inevitable, though, shall happen...

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 15:57 GMT

    I for one am looking forward to the endless supply of green-tops that we will be treating India too. Ideally, the matches should be played at Trent Bridge, Headingly, Old Trafford, and Chester-lee Street, in April. Or maybe all countries should just grow up and start to create some kind of international consensus on some basic standard rule on how a pitch should behave. International variety, fair enough, but only up to a point. Otherwise, tours are going to continue to be as predictable as this one.

  • POSTED BY cricraz on | November 17, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    I like how the DRS guys just jump on the bandwagon everytime there are a few decisions that are questionable and like to blame BCCI. They never offer solutions like why it is limited to just 2. So if you lose your 2 appeals and the umpire errs, you still cant rectify it even with DRS. There are whole host of issues with the accuracy of DRS which has yet to be resolved. Technology may improve some errors but introduce new errors and this aspect is conveniently forgotten by the crowd clamouring for technology in cricket. Why has the FIFA and other major american sports( MLB, NFL, NBA) been slow to adopt technology? They understand the pros and cons and time constraints it imposes and have taken slow approach rather than " dive all in" Eventually Cricket will also have DRS but a better version thanks to bullheaded India. So the rest of the world can be thankful to BCCI for it forcing the developers and other cricket boards to demand higher quality of DRS!

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    Excellent fight from the English guys so far.. Just love it. Expecting some fireworks from KP too. Otherwise it will be boring to see Indians taking up all the wickets in no time.

    Tomorrow's first session before the lunch is crucial. Lets c how the english men respond to the test.

  • POSTED BY The_bowlers_Holding on | November 17, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    Well it was 69-5 in the first innings when I retired and I feared that it would be all over, now with England just need to knock another 400 and India batting last- Game on. A draw is the best the best we can hope for realistically, now the players have finally had a look at some spin bowling maybe we can see England bat a bit.

  • POSTED BY gudolerhum on | November 17, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    On wickets that are certainly friendly, India is a side to be feared. On wickets outside of India, they do not pose similar problems. Their supporters must be aware of this fact and not criticise them when they are playing away from home and fail to produce good results. Why they refuse the DRS is a mystery, it will never be 100% so they are unlikely to ever accept it. It means that touring sides will have to deal with the occasional, hopefully, error by an umpire. Fortunately the standard of umpiring these days is a lot better than in years gone by. I hope Compton continues to apply himself and holds his place in the team. It is good to see that name back on an England team, memories of his grand dad linger strong.

  • POSTED BY Prinspire.com on | November 17, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    From an Indian Fan: I am really Happy to see England Fight Back.....That shows how desperate they are to perform well in India this time, Whether they lose or win this match; I am sure next 3 matches gonna be very very interesting :)

  • POSTED BY Plz_Dont_Get_Whitewashed on | November 17, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    Everyone is talking about this "DRS" !..... What is "DRS" and how to use it ?!?!? (Ignorant Indian Fan) ;-)

  • POSTED BY Monoz1976 on | November 17, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    @ Ditej Garg: Aleem Dar might have been dreaming on lost ICC Umpire of the year award.

  • POSTED BY cheguramana on | November 17, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    ENG batsmen look a lot more confident in the second innings. Odds on ENG pulling off a draw must hv shortened a lot !!

  • POSTED BY Monoz1976 on | November 17, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    Its a shame Indians are bullying in their flat tracks.....lol

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    It's strange that No one is concerned about the fact that there don't seem to be players who can succeed in all conditions - English or Indian - emerging. As for guys on cricinfo mb and mr hopps acting like this is some kind of battle for national prestige - that's so lame. It's a sport and if there is good competitive cricket i'd be happy and not a replay of India in England with roles reversed. Look forward to some nice cricket

  • POSTED BY lala88 on | November 17, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    According to MSD umpire mistakes are part of the game. So why we indians worry about that ? "Technology is used to avoid human errors & to ease the human works.There is no technology in the world that is 100% accurate". MSD please understand this. cricinfo pls publish.

  • POSTED BY swat1999 on | November 17, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Cook's Resistant is awesome. Wel done. Indian spinners have a great day. I suggest India must accespt DRS system. Whats wrong with BCCI?

  • POSTED BY nilesh91 on | November 17, 2012, 15:03 GMT

    @MrsBoycottsStickOfRhubarb Do you really thinks that decision even needed the DRS. stop defending poor Umpiring! DRS or no -DRS an International umpire should be able to give those out.

  • POSTED BY sandy_bangalore on | November 17, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    @Long-Leg: Please don't generalise every Indian as 'jingoistic'. There are quite a few who are provocative, but the vast majority of us are reasonable, and we want a good contest. In this regard, it was good to see the 2nd innings start by England. And Cook looks world class now, and Compton promising. Hope we have an exciting contest, as opposed to a 3 day finish,

  • POSTED BY 11mentakingapunt on | November 17, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    England have a big psychological issue against spin. India will probably take this series but are doing nothing for their future. They are again guilty of producing square turners that will surely guarantee a home victory but when their batsman tour they will be found out. Same old story

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | November 17, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    About the English 1st innings, I need not say "I told you so". As for the good opening in the 2nd innings, these things happen in test matches and India should not worry about them. Wickets tend to fall in clusters in tests and esp on day 4 of Tests in India. When Kumble took his 10 wickets in Kotla, Pak were chasing 407 for a win and were 107/0 and then got out for 206 IIRC. Regarding the umpiring issue, I do not think one can justify poor umpiring by saying that "you better have DRS then". DRS or no DRS, umpiring must be of good quality. the prev test between SA and Oz again showed some glaring shortcomings of DRS isn't it? Every such incident strengthens India's stand regarding DRS and others look like sheep joining the crowd. Cook has played well twice now and I always expected him to do that. Sore point was Bell's duck and I hope he does well this time else he would surely be dropped. Eng still have 2 days to cover and it won't be easy. Indian win is about 95% on.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | November 17, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    DOn't get too excited by england's 100 run stand, It'll be all over tomorrow ! As far as DRS is concerned India is right and will stand by it. Our bowlers don't like taking cheap wickets like Ajmal does. Let england have few lucky ones going there way, STILL INDIA WILL WIN!

  • POSTED BY Long-Leg on | November 17, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    @Pawan Kumar Bansal: In fact Cook is 27 (nearly 28) and I don't think he will match Sachin's test record. However, I agree that he is still a young man and only just entering his prime. He has 20 centuries to his name and if he continues injury free into his mid 30s then it is reasonable to expect him to double that tally.

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | November 17, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    cant say cook is the most attractive batsman but he keeps getting results. Time for the rest of the batting to show how good they are and see what can be taken from this.

  • POSTED BY Vinmu on | November 17, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    Mr rahul ..couple of things we have always had a problem with lefties and if gambhir were half as lucky as cook he would have had century this game..atleast 3 chances in cooks favor including second innings.

  • POSTED BY india666666 on | November 17, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    i guess no one observed this, yadav was bowling 140+ almost every ball,this may sound too boring for a saffer or an aussie but to an indian this is heart warming, he definetly outplayed anderson and broad

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    That's why cricket is such a great game...how different is it when you play in your own country. I hope England get to 400 in 2nd innings, not to save the match but to show themselves that the Indian bowlers aren't to be feared. Panesar must play next test (for Bresnan), with Bairstow in for Bell (forced) and Finn in for Broad. Finn has the extra pace that can get wickets on sub continental pitches.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    The BCCI is so much opposed to the DRS that if they accept it now the rest of the world will think at last the BCCI has surrendered. The DRS may not be 100% reliable but it indeed has minimized the human umpiring errors. Reliability is only an excuse for BCCI. Nothing is 100% reliable in this world, not even life.

  • POSTED BY Long-Leg on | November 17, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    A seriously embarrassing day for England, not least because it seems to prove all those jingoistic Indian fans (who sometimes appeal on these boards) right. They said we couldn't play spin and that the series would be an easy whitewash for India. We are doing our best to make that rather arrogant prediction look like a wise and considered judgement. The most bitter pill to swallow is that the Indian seamers also look better than the English ones. Broad and Bresnan need to be dropped and Panasar and Finn brought in for the next test. The one encouraging thing from England's point of view is the 2nd innings opening stand, which at least proves we have some fight and ability. If Cook goes on to get his hundred tomorrow it will be one of his very finest and proof of his growing world class stature.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    WELL PLAYED COOK.. keep it up.. with KP still to come and prior in good touch too, I can see this match going to 5th day. Draw is a high possibility if england dont lose more then 5 wickets tommarow.. Gud luck england.. India needs to keep it simple with more overs given to yuvi.. he can be a turning point if things go bad.

  • POSTED BY yorkshire-86 on | November 17, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    Garg - there is a way to correct the errors you mentioned. Its called DRS and should be used in EVERY test match rather than the current idiotic situation where everyone else is in the Digital Age yet India is still in the Stone Age and refuses to use it. Cricket with DRS = Cricket. Cricket without DRS = an antiquated game resembling cricket. The only team that has ANY right to be agitated about a wrong descision is England - and bad descision against India can be shrugged off with the simple comment that its thier fault as they refused one if the most modern important parts of cricket - DRS. Tell the moronic administrators at the BCCI to get out of the Stone Age and ensure DRS is used every game.

  • POSTED BY cricroop on | November 17, 2012, 13:57 GMT

    Congratulations to ojha on his 5wk haul..For the first time in this test match eng got something to cheer about, a 100+opening partership.. india's advantage is taking wickets in clusters.I hope they will do that tomorrow and aim for an innings defeat.

  • POSTED BY narangi on | November 17, 2012, 13:56 GMT

    Very well written by Ditej Garg

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | November 17, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    No DRS. Cricket I'm the stone age.

  • POSTED BY Agila on | November 17, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    @rahulcricket..You gotta thank Mr. Aleem Dar, is not an overstatement!

  • POSTED BY Akshita29 on | November 17, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    England is trying and they have not given up . That shows they got fighting ability despite evident lack of confidence against the turning ball . And cook is proving he is a world class batsman and can score in any condition . I hope Trot plays a good innings too . That would give them confidence for the next match. And really good to see Compton fighting out. And now muddled BCCI should open its eyes toward DRS as India might be on the receving end of some decision . Very Poor umpiring so far in the game .

  • POSTED BY i.love.ice.creams on | November 17, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    For all you might say, I'd say that we can always expect fireworks from Cook & Pieterson. I can bet four to one that they are gonna be the highest run scorer from English side in the series and are gonna give the Indian bowlers a headache at some point of time. Beware Ojha & Ashwin!

  • POSTED BY universalanalyser on | November 17, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    Finally smthn comes from england side,,being full of batsman able to score any amount of run on a given day,,its not that far to score 500 plus runs by stumps tomoro,,though first session wil count for evrythn,but no way they cant belive that it stil cud b a draw on this very dead pitch where evry out of form indian batsmen scored leavin few who are indeed inform!Gud luck England,,just dont throw ur wicket before u test those ordinary so called indian pitch bowlers.u r olwys on top once u tear their limited confidence and talent..

  • POSTED BY nikhil_tawde on | November 17, 2012, 13:35 GMT

    Each team is a lion in its own territory. Applicable to all top teams in world cricket. India suffered the same way in English conditions. Now its the English who have to suffer.

  • POSTED BY Plz_Dont_Get_Whitewashed on | November 17, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    Cook is A-W-E-S-O-M-E !!!! ..... The fight-back shown in the 2nd Innings by the Poms has been gutsy and is worthy of R-E-S-P-E-C-T !!! (Highly appreciative Indian Fan)

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    England have made a good start to their second essay, in the First Test. I hope the rest of the batsmen make use of the solid platform given to them by Cook and Compton, and atleast come up with their heads held high - if not managing to draw the game. England will need to need to strengthen their spin department, and possible change their pace attack, if Finn is fit. I thought Dhoni eased the pressure on England, when he opted for pace, in the first innings. He could have used Sehwag, who is a big turner of the ball.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | November 17, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    @ big_al_81: I second you. That rabbit bit was awesome.

  • POSTED BY cdeeky on | November 17, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    @Ditej Garg - It is Indiaonly who is not favouring DRS system with ICC - so why cry on the spilled milk. These DRS are meant to challenge and get justice if you are sure that Alim Dar or any other did a mistake.

  • POSTED BY baranasai on | November 17, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    I feel England will do well in the second inninigs by the way they are batting-they may score 430 + runs and make India bat and loose 3 wickets including the useless wicket of 9No offence meantto SRT-meant as a joke)

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | November 17, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    @Ditej Garg- are you surprised that fast bowlers are not getting wickets on this dustbowl?really? @alwaysindia- i take it you are against the bcci stance of rejecting DRS then otherwise, you have no reason to moan about wrong decisions.. England should have played monty and onions. Broad is ony there due to his VC(dont know how he got that either)...hopefully England will bat well and then this match will be a draw...

  • POSTED BY Black-Zero on | November 17, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    i am just sick of BCCI bullying everyone over DRS.i hope that tomorrow India get some plumb decisions turned down.so that BCCI "might" get what DRS is all about.its NOT about being 100% correct(nothing can be 100% correct)but to prevent silly decisions being made.like today's.

  • POSTED BY MrsBoycottsStickOfRhubarb on | November 17, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    Alwaysindia, I suspect you are right about delaying the inevitable. but in no way can India complain about lbw decisions from the best umpire in the world. There's a very very simple solution... can you guess what it is?

  • POSTED BY spot_on on | November 17, 2012, 13:00 GMT

    As I predicted yesterday, Ojha was the best of Indian bowlers. 5/45... Great ball to dismiss KP. I'd love more of those tomorrow. Englad Have to bat another day and a half. Can they????

  • POSTED BY da_man_ on | November 17, 2012, 13:00 GMT

    Lol Ditej Garg and all Indian fans, you do not get to lambast umpires if you won't give them the tools of DRS which are being used world over. In BCCI's words "it all evens itself out" right?

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    The England management will say that the 1st innings was a blip, but it's not. The current batting lineup has had plenty of opportunity to improve and to come up with a plan against spin, but have failed to do so. There needs to be a radical change of personnel. There is nothing to lose by trying promising youngsters who may turn out to have the nous to adapt their games to the conditions. None of the batsmen should be considered too secure to survive this display of complete ineptitude. Might as well bring in both Root and Bairstow, than continue with the same overpaid, over-rated incompetents. Maybe one of the youngsters can catch, which would be an improvement straight away. Whilst we are talking of change, clearly Panesar has to play and Meaker or Onions has to be a better option than Broad. This is not a knee jerk reaction - just common sense after REPEATED FAILURES.

  • POSTED BY ssenthil on | November 17, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    I think Indian fielding need to be a bit sharp. Too many let offs. Umpiring has been pretty poor by the poorest umpire Aleem Dar. He was never good enough at this level like Dharmasena, and I wonder how this both got best Umpire award, going to show that Umpiring has been on the downhill as well in ICC. But I don't think England is complaining abt Lack of DRS as they were the beneficiary here. Tomorrow I hope Dhoni uses his brain better and attack well and start with bowling Spinners together unlike he was doing today for the most part which allowing the Poms to settle down. Dhoni is the biggest surplus in this Indian team. I hope he will use his common sense a little to bowl out the Poms before they reach 300. All India need a wicket tomorrow morning in 5 overs and then we can see a big collapse. Well Played Cook and Compton, they showed this pitch has no demon as claimed by MANY Poms.

  • POSTED BY challagalla on | November 17, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    Interesting day tomorrow. What I would like to see is england bat the whole day and set India a target of 200 odd for the final day. Wishful thinking but that what i would like for a very interesting play on the final day. Actuallt I think Compton getting out yesterday [ always difficult to bat the last hour after fielding for 2 days ] set those early wickets to fall and put england on the defensive. Defensive play is never a good option against our spinners. You have to keep the scorers busy by taking singles atleast and push the close in fielders back. The match may get over tomorrow itself unless the brits bat out of their skins. Poor fileding and some bad bowling by the brits and very good batting by the indians so far. Though cook and compton have batted well in the second innings, an early wicket tomorrow can undo all the good work of the last session today. Lets see how it pans out tomorrow. I want India to win but would also like to see the match go onto the final day.

  • POSTED BY Bilal94 on | November 17, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    Aleem Dar is I think trying to prove to the BCCI that even the best Umpire in the World makes mistakes so get DRS and avoid Test matches like the first test of Srilanka Pakistan series in which around 15 decisions were inncorrect.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    Cook is only 25 and has every chance to beat Sachins test records. Look at him. Sehwag has 23 100's and cook has 20 and hes only 25.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | November 17, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    Well that was a woefully woeful first innings from England. It's like UAE all over again except this time their bowling and fielding is woeful too. Decent efforts with the bat from Cook, Prior and Broad but the only one who can really hold his head high after each team's first innings is Swann. Certainly the second innings is shaping up better but it's still only one partnership, so there's no guarantee that things things will continue in this vein. I'm trying to stay positive and look to SL for inspiration. In the first Test in SL England batted just as poorly as they had in UAE but their second innings was an improvement. Although that was too little too late to save the match, they continued the improvement and took the second game. I'm hoping for the same thing here. They'll need to improve more than their batting though. Maybe they can bring in Panesar to improve the catching.

  • POSTED BY Garp on | November 17, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    Finally a resemblance of some fight and desire from England. There really is no excuse for that 1st innings collapse, England has had the entire summer to prepare for this series but yet again it appears the prissy poms did their usual and used the time to take every second away from cricket, seems they'll never learn. The non existent outrace attack should surprise no one. There is no true fast bowler in the England setup, they've created this falseness in fast bowling. All of the current England pace bowlers are and always have been medium to fast bowlers, not true fast bowlers. A true fat bowler his the 90mph mark consistently, these bowlers at best will hit the 85-86mph mark once in awhile but consistently bowl at about 82mph which is not a fast bowler. I've said this for 3 years now, I find it hard to believe that in all of England there isn't 1 bowler who can bowl at the 90mph consistently. Your not going to bother the top batsmen with a bunch of med/fast bowlers.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    what is aleem dar doing.... it was clearly out , the one of cook.... is he reluctant to gv that out bcoz of the appeling issue earlier in the eng 2nd innings and the rough chat that happened after that vt dhoni... it was not a tough decisn to make... it looked out in real time play itself....

  • POSTED BY lala88 on | November 17, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    great to see england buid century opening partnership from first test match in india as indian openers were not be able to build century partnership in all 4 matches in england.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    Mr Garg Stop whinging about the umpiring, your lots fault for not accepting drs like the rest of the cricket world

  • POSTED BY muneeb2012 on | November 17, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    umpires make mistakes drs corrects em...so if anything in this woorld is to be blamed it is d absence of drs...and people responsibl for its absence...

  • POSTED BY gnanzcupid on | November 17, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    A rare good session or two for the minnows today. For england and srilanka. And wi comparing their recent test form in subcontinent. So lets term it as the ''minnows make merry''

  • POSTED BY bonobo on | November 17, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    Compton is the new Tavare. Although I am in England fan, its still great to see a team attacking with two spinners and an orthodox one like Ojha, using his guile and being so succesful.

  • POSTED BY jackiethepen on | November 17, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    Bell might have disappointed us today with a shot that was too ambitious first ball but David Hopps never disappoints with his particular way of belittling batsmen. Bell was trying to show intent. But a failure by Bell will always receive more opprobrium than any other player. The style of this report might be applauded by some but to many it is quite unnecessary. Bell misjudged the lowness of the ball. He had just seen KP completely flounder at the crease. Bell was overcorrecting the defensive approach he had taken against Pakistan. That is what happens in cricket. Bell is not mentally frail - that is why he has played 80 Tests while others have fallen away. But he got this wrong. Prior was dropped by Khan on the boundary taking a risky shot but he got away with it. Good luck to him. Is he mentally frail as well? Of course not.

  • POSTED BY Humdingers on | November 17, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    Big mistake enriching the follow on. India should have batted again and worn out the English bowlers (especially Swan). Tiring your own bowlers is not going to do anything. This game could go either way now & even a draw is on the cards. Not sure which muppet thought of this current strategy, Dhoni or Fletcher. Regardless both are unfit & need to go!

  • POSTED BY voice_of_reason on | November 17, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Indian fans - Do not moan about umpiring errors when you do not think the DRS system works. If you want to get rid of these obvious mistakes then bring in the DRS review system using Hawkeye and Hotspot. Otherwise stop your moaning.

  • POSTED BY ibbani on | November 17, 2012, 12:25 GMT

    Sunday noon , India 1-0, nothing to stop it. I am surprside as I I see 111/0. 4th day is spinners paradise, Boycott's mom can play better than these English players. Just waiting for inevitable. It just had to go until 4th day as England did surprise in 2nd innings.

  • POSTED BY timohyj on | November 17, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    the umpiring in this match has been very bad, but there have been so many bad decisions that they have evened out for both sides. You had to feel that when Dar gave patel out he was making up for the shocker he made earlier when he gave him not out. The inian bowlers looked tired in the final session. Hopefully they will come out well rested tomorrow morning and finish off the match quickly

  • POSTED BY Rush2ram on | November 17, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Well played Cook and Compton .. well bowled Pujara ... Now game on...

  • POSTED BY ravi_hari on | November 17, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    At the end of Day 3, I am sure one is confused whether 2 different teams are playing against India. The way C&C redsponded in the second knock is amazing. It shows what positive approach and confidence can do to players. In the first essay, though they were expecting a declaration they were not ready for the onslaught. I think they were surprised seeing Ashwin bowl the first over. Before they could realise what was happening it was all over. However the way Cook played showed that if they apply themselves, they can do it. It came true in the final session. It is now England's turn to take charge and define which way they want to go. If others follow the approach taken by Cook England too can score in excess of 400 and that will add spice to this test match. If it goes into Day 5 with India needing about 180 in the last session it would be very interesting. For that to happen, England has to bat really long. We will know by lunch tomorrow which way it is going to go. All the best both.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 17, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    Top day for India, started off being a disaster for England. They now have a bit of a glimmer, compared to 7/100 in the 1st innings. I think England will need to erase India's lead for the loss of no more than 4 wickets to make a game of it. To save this match, England will need to bat 5 more sessions.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    I almost felt sorry for KP this morning, he looked embarrassingly bad! Bell went in the head. But the person who had the worst day was the umpire! If this wasn't a good case for drs, I dont what is. Patel s decision was disgraceful, Broads not a lot better and he said not out to lbws when at least three would have been overturned on appeal. Icc wants to grow some and demand drs is used worldwide

  • POSTED BY Bodders70 on | November 17, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    When Compton fell in the first innings my heart sank because more than anything I think England's struggles over the last year are down to being very little for one, Trott is a mile better with a few runs on the board and it calms the rest of the team. So, even though the overall position is still bad and an innings defeat has to be the favourite this gives me some belief we can compete in the remainder of the series and people can learn.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    England played very well in 2nd innings,here is there chance for redemption,if they manage to save this tests then it will be india under pressure and who knows Eng after looking so vulnerable against spinners early on might actually go on to win the series..Cook is a tremendous find for England..Monty need to be in the team,when they played him in UAE alongwith with Swann it makes no sense to leave him out in indian pitches...Sachin needs to be dropped,if BCCI cant give youngster a chance in home series then when will they?

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | November 17, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    poor tactics from dhoni in the second innings . he made so many quick changes in bowling ? first he give ojha the new ball & after just 2 over spell from him he threw it to ashwin after then he gave ball to sehwag who bowled a good over but again dhoni made change & sehwag was not given a second over . DHONI THIS IS NOT T20 CRICKET . THIS IS TEST CRICKET , SPINNERS NEED TO BE GIVEN AT LEAST A 6-7 OVERS SPELL , YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPINNER TO TAKE WKT IN ONLY 1 OVER OR 2 OVER SPELL .

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | November 17, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    though england were lucky in the second innings but credit to cook for shwoing fight . GAMBHIR LEARN SOME THING FROM HIM , HE IS ALREADY ON THE VERGE OF A CENTURY IN ALIEN INDIAN CONDITIONS . HOW MANY DID YOU MADE IN ENGLAND ? AT LEAST ENGLISH BATSMEN ARE SHWOING SOME FIGHT WHICH OUR INDIAN BATSMEN( EXCEPT DRAVID ) DIDN'T SHOW IN ENGLAND .

  • POSTED BY alwaysindia on | November 17, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    England delaying the inevitable. by the way, had aleem dar gone mad today. gave samit patel not out when out, then out when not out , then turned down a plumb lbw of cook

  • POSTED BY big_al_81 on | November 17, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    I may not yet be your greatest fan Mr Hopps, but the paragraph on Bell's dismissal is sports journalism GOLD. Truly great writing. And a pretty fair assessment of the day overall. Terrible start from England, good end. Probably won't save this Test but if they can get some pride back they might make a fight of the series at least.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    How ironical is that?? An year ago..England had the so called World's best Pace attack and this attack suffered hugely in these 3 days when only Anderson managed to get 1 wicket-that too a tail ender... And India- whose pace attack is a joke to people..Zaheer and Yadav still got 1 scalp each.Fortunate for Yadav but Patel had a huge share of luck earlier..so it was justified.. Things change drastically.. Broad looked Hell Ordinary, Bresnan, out of everything and perhaps Onions will sit out for all the tests...

    P.S.- Bugged by ALEEM DAR and his ERRORS..MISSED 4 out of 4... he has to do something to justify his reputation..and then a plumb missed in England's second Innings too... TOO MUCH OF IT..!

  • POSTED BY mikey76 on | November 17, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    Bell seriously better knuckle down this innings otherwise he's a goner for the near future. These two need to bat beyond lunch, then we can think about saving this match and regrouping. Already it's apparent that Monty has to play. Finn's pace is also a must otherwise Sehwag will just do as he pleases. I've got a feeling India will wear us down tomorrow but it least we've shown it's possible to build partnerships and survive long spells. We are just incredibly slow learners.

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  • POSTED BY mikey76 on | November 17, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    Bell seriously better knuckle down this innings otherwise he's a goner for the near future. These two need to bat beyond lunch, then we can think about saving this match and regrouping. Already it's apparent that Monty has to play. Finn's pace is also a must otherwise Sehwag will just do as he pleases. I've got a feeling India will wear us down tomorrow but it least we've shown it's possible to build partnerships and survive long spells. We are just incredibly slow learners.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    How ironical is that?? An year ago..England had the so called World's best Pace attack and this attack suffered hugely in these 3 days when only Anderson managed to get 1 wicket-that too a tail ender... And India- whose pace attack is a joke to people..Zaheer and Yadav still got 1 scalp each.Fortunate for Yadav but Patel had a huge share of luck earlier..so it was justified.. Things change drastically.. Broad looked Hell Ordinary, Bresnan, out of everything and perhaps Onions will sit out for all the tests...

    P.S.- Bugged by ALEEM DAR and his ERRORS..MISSED 4 out of 4... he has to do something to justify his reputation..and then a plumb missed in England's second Innings too... TOO MUCH OF IT..!

  • POSTED BY big_al_81 on | November 17, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    I may not yet be your greatest fan Mr Hopps, but the paragraph on Bell's dismissal is sports journalism GOLD. Truly great writing. And a pretty fair assessment of the day overall. Terrible start from England, good end. Probably won't save this Test but if they can get some pride back they might make a fight of the series at least.

  • POSTED BY alwaysindia on | November 17, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    England delaying the inevitable. by the way, had aleem dar gone mad today. gave samit patel not out when out, then out when not out , then turned down a plumb lbw of cook

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | November 17, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    though england were lucky in the second innings but credit to cook for shwoing fight . GAMBHIR LEARN SOME THING FROM HIM , HE IS ALREADY ON THE VERGE OF A CENTURY IN ALIEN INDIAN CONDITIONS . HOW MANY DID YOU MADE IN ENGLAND ? AT LEAST ENGLISH BATSMEN ARE SHWOING SOME FIGHT WHICH OUR INDIAN BATSMEN( EXCEPT DRAVID ) DIDN'T SHOW IN ENGLAND .

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | November 17, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    poor tactics from dhoni in the second innings . he made so many quick changes in bowling ? first he give ojha the new ball & after just 2 over spell from him he threw it to ashwin after then he gave ball to sehwag who bowled a good over but again dhoni made change & sehwag was not given a second over . DHONI THIS IS NOT T20 CRICKET . THIS IS TEST CRICKET , SPINNERS NEED TO BE GIVEN AT LEAST A 6-7 OVERS SPELL , YOU CAN'T EXPECT A SPINNER TO TAKE WKT IN ONLY 1 OVER OR 2 OVER SPELL .

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    England played very well in 2nd innings,here is there chance for redemption,if they manage to save this tests then it will be india under pressure and who knows Eng after looking so vulnerable against spinners early on might actually go on to win the series..Cook is a tremendous find for England..Monty need to be in the team,when they played him in UAE alongwith with Swann it makes no sense to leave him out in indian pitches...Sachin needs to be dropped,if BCCI cant give youngster a chance in home series then when will they?

  • POSTED BY Bodders70 on | November 17, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    When Compton fell in the first innings my heart sank because more than anything I think England's struggles over the last year are down to being very little for one, Trott is a mile better with a few runs on the board and it calms the rest of the team. So, even though the overall position is still bad and an innings defeat has to be the favourite this gives me some belief we can compete in the remainder of the series and people can learn.

  • POSTED BY on | November 17, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    I almost felt sorry for KP this morning, he looked embarrassingly bad! Bell went in the head. But the person who had the worst day was the umpire! If this wasn't a good case for drs, I dont what is. Patel s decision was disgraceful, Broads not a lot better and he said not out to lbws when at least three would have been overturned on appeal. Icc wants to grow some and demand drs is used worldwide

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 17, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    Top day for India, started off being a disaster for England. They now have a bit of a glimmer, compared to 7/100 in the 1st innings. I think England will need to erase India's lead for the loss of no more than 4 wickets to make a game of it. To save this match, England will need to bat 5 more sessions.