August 14, 2011

Have India lost the Australia series already?

India have problems in every department, and it doesn't look like they'll be able to fix them in time for their year-end tour
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India's performance against England has been abysmal but things could get worse before they get better. This disastrous tour has been a while in the making. The selectors' failure to address issues like an ageing batting line-up, a declining offspinner, and substandard fielding in the five-day game, has finally come home to roost.

The shrewdness of MS Dhoni's captaincy, the potency of Virender Sehwag's strokeplay, and the bowling of Zaheer Khan have all done a better job than spackle in covering up the Indian cracks. But like firemen on their sliding pole, the descent for India will be much quicker than their steady climb up the rankings was.

In all likelihood, India will be ranked No. 3 by the time they tour Australia. Following three heavy losses to England in the last Ashes series, Australia, it was assumed, would be easy pickings for India. I wouldn't be so sure.

With all Australia's problems - and there are many, with two reviews into poor performance running concurrently - they do have fast-bowling potential. If they get the bulk of their young fast bowlers fit for selection, Australia should field a decent pace attack. If they do, the Indian selectors, who have been negligent in their duty, could face their worst nightmare.

The selectors have been reluctant to show faith in some talented young Indian batsmen. Now they have to choose a team for Australia where there are serious questions about the ability of some to play short-pitched bowling. Further muddying the pool, India's better batsmen are now a liability in the field.

Most Australian pace bowlers grow up certain of one thing: they know how to bang the ball in short. Whether they do it wisely is another question, but judging by the performance of Suresh Raina, Abhinav Mukund and Yuvraj Singh in England, quantity will suffice if quality is in short supply.

The Indian selectors also have the added concern of the bowlers. In addition to batting and fielding weaknesses, the bowling attack is in tatters.

The Australians can struggle against good spin bowling. There have already been glimpses of this in Sri Lanka, although the Test batsmen are better equipped than those whose demise in the Twenty20 series was abject.

In the days when India didn't have much pace bowling they were still able to hold their heads high in Australia thanks to quality spinners. In 1967-68 and then 1977-78 India made Australia fight hard for every advantage through the skill of spinners like Erapalli Prasanna, Bhagwath Chandrasekhar and Bishan Bedi.

If India can get Zaheer fit and Ishant Sharma back to the form he displayed on his last tour of Australia, then with Mishra and another good spinner they could have their best balanced attack

Those times are a distant memory. Harbhajan Singh has for long been a better defensive bowler than an attacking weapon. And while Amit Mishra is a steady legspinner who has some value in Australia, he needs the faster bowlers taking early wickets to be effective.

If India can get Zaheer fit and Ishant Sharma back to the form he displayed on his last tour of Australia, then with Mishra and another good spinner they could have their best balanced attack.

The selectors have to decide whether Harbhajan is worth the gamble, and if they do, hope Dhoni can cajole or berate his offspinner into a return to his more attacking ways.

The biggest issue facing the Indian selectors is finding a batting line-up that can score enough runs in Australia to give the bowlers a chance. Of the experienced batsmen Sehwag is the best equipped to mount a counterattack that will set the Australians back on their heels. However, it's too much to expect Sehwag to play a lone hand, so Sachin Tendulkar may be forced to play a more proactive role in this ploy.

Of the younger batsmen Rohit Sharma is the most talented, and he also copes best with the short-pitched delivery. He should have been in the Test side a while back. It would be asking a lot of him to take on an aggressor's role in his first Test series and in a hostile environment.

Then comes the job of drastically improving the fielding. It's crucial to catch well and field athletically on the big grounds in Australia. With ageing batsmen and poor fielding bowlers, this will be a difficult selection puzzle.

The selectors have failed to confront the tough issues and now face a damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-don't situation. If India slide quickly down the rankings, weaknesses off and on the field will have played their part.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell is now a cricket commentator and columnist

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  • puneet_usa on August 17, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Team India's success was based on a master plan created by their famed coach GARY KIRSTEN- who unfortunately is no longer in charge- He had the Team India going whether it was at home or abroad-he managed to get maximum output out of all the players who were not world class but manage to pitch in their 2 cents on consistent basis which eventually added up in final analysis and therefore Team India did well overall- Mr. Duncan Fletcher took over the world champions thinking that the team will move on its own from the high of being Recently Crowned World Champions and with big names like Sachin,Sehwag,Dravid,Dhoni,Laxman,etc in team- One or the other will fire and get the results single handedly but the calculation went terribly wrong with unforeseen injuries to the big guns and not enough ready to play and perform bench strength that Duncan has nowhere to hide but to expect these big guns to fire at least in the final test- Hope he gets in touch with GARY soon for few words of wisdom.

  • Drinkscarrier on August 17, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    India was on a high after their recent world cup victory. This thrashing in England might bring them crashing back to earth !

  • Lateralis on August 17, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    @Nampally I think you do the ECB an injustice by claiming they are solely responsible for the current schedule. Remember that the Indian team had around a week off between the WI series and the England series. The ECB had *no* control over the scheduling of that series. The only people to blame for the schedule of India tour to WI is the BCCI. The reason the BCCI left the tour as late as they did was because of the IPL. I am not saying that IPL should be ditched or anything of that sort; I'm just saying it how it is. The matches couldn't be played much later in England without running into the serious possibility of the matches being severely affected by rain. In such a marquee and important series, that is the last thing either board wants. So don't lay the blame at the feet of the ECB. The BCCI scheduled the WI tour and that's why there was no time between tours.

  • romanc on August 16, 2011, 15:03 GMT

    Hi Chappell don't try to cut someones banana plants when your Home is burning.

  • blondblackberry on August 16, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    i do believe sehwag's form is crucial.if he gets going he can put the bowlers in defensive mode and captain's to change plan'a' to b,c and d.also, he is good in tests than odi's.form of dravid wil surely help the bowlers who wil make bowlers to bowl accurately than having a shattered mind.so, it wil b sehwag as major factor even if he makes just a quickfire one.

  • getsetgopk on August 16, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Let them finish losing in England first, they are still in that dreadful English nightmare let them get to their sense a little and then we'll talk about another serious drubbing a bit latter.

  • kasyapm on August 16, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Who among the so called young guns has made a case to be included? India has been able to win the matches it has won because the bowlers fired (with Zak as the spearhead) and we haven't LOST because of the batting and the performances of the big 3 (or 4 if Sehwag is also included). Just look at the last major test series - the one in SA. Sachin and Laxman were the standout performers in the batting dept. How can they be put aside because of 1 bad performance? There is no doubt about Rohit Sharma's potential, but he has been woefully lacking in temperament and has lost out to Raina, Pujara and Kohli. Just look at his ODI record. I recollect Ian mentioning abou Rohit & Sehwag in someother article as well. Hinting that India just stayed on top on account of only Sehwag's & Zaheer's performance (not taking anything away from these 2 champion cricketers) would be ignorance to say the least. Necessary to touch upon the reason for the greats' failure instead of taking hasty decisions.

  • stalkonda on August 16, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    Aussies would have the upper hand.. Only and If Only.. V.V.S. announces his retirement before the Down Under Series.. Lol

  • Nampally on August 15, 2011, 23:59 GMT

    Ian, it is bit too soon to write India off for theAustralian tour later this year. The same team as toured England with 4 changes will do the trick.Ashwin, Kohli, Jadhev & R.Sharma will replace Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer and Mukund. Hopefully Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar will get some much needed batting practice and get into shape. Indian batting li9ne up is very strong and it is just unfortunate that they were short of practice & injuries to key players. No way Sehwag will get out for a pair again. Also the conditions in Australia are closer to Indian except the pitches are more bouncy. The ball does not seam or swing asmuch as in English conditions. So expect a solid Indian performance.ECB had a very bad schedule presented to India who unfortunately accepted it instead of putting all 4 county games ahead of the tests. This was a major factor in the indian defeat - lack of practice on Englishr pitches.ECB were crafty in putting such lop sided schedule & BCCI were too foolish to agree.

  • Alexk400 on August 15, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    No more short bowlers. It does not work unless you are malcolm marshall and he was 6 feet. India need 6feet 6" fast bowlers to match with aussies and england.

  • puneet_usa on August 17, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Team India's success was based on a master plan created by their famed coach GARY KIRSTEN- who unfortunately is no longer in charge- He had the Team India going whether it was at home or abroad-he managed to get maximum output out of all the players who were not world class but manage to pitch in their 2 cents on consistent basis which eventually added up in final analysis and therefore Team India did well overall- Mr. Duncan Fletcher took over the world champions thinking that the team will move on its own from the high of being Recently Crowned World Champions and with big names like Sachin,Sehwag,Dravid,Dhoni,Laxman,etc in team- One or the other will fire and get the results single handedly but the calculation went terribly wrong with unforeseen injuries to the big guns and not enough ready to play and perform bench strength that Duncan has nowhere to hide but to expect these big guns to fire at least in the final test- Hope he gets in touch with GARY soon for few words of wisdom.

  • Drinkscarrier on August 17, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    India was on a high after their recent world cup victory. This thrashing in England might bring them crashing back to earth !

  • Lateralis on August 17, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    @Nampally I think you do the ECB an injustice by claiming they are solely responsible for the current schedule. Remember that the Indian team had around a week off between the WI series and the England series. The ECB had *no* control over the scheduling of that series. The only people to blame for the schedule of India tour to WI is the BCCI. The reason the BCCI left the tour as late as they did was because of the IPL. I am not saying that IPL should be ditched or anything of that sort; I'm just saying it how it is. The matches couldn't be played much later in England without running into the serious possibility of the matches being severely affected by rain. In such a marquee and important series, that is the last thing either board wants. So don't lay the blame at the feet of the ECB. The BCCI scheduled the WI tour and that's why there was no time between tours.

  • romanc on August 16, 2011, 15:03 GMT

    Hi Chappell don't try to cut someones banana plants when your Home is burning.

  • blondblackberry on August 16, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    i do believe sehwag's form is crucial.if he gets going he can put the bowlers in defensive mode and captain's to change plan'a' to b,c and d.also, he is good in tests than odi's.form of dravid wil surely help the bowlers who wil make bowlers to bowl accurately than having a shattered mind.so, it wil b sehwag as major factor even if he makes just a quickfire one.

  • getsetgopk on August 16, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    Let them finish losing in England first, they are still in that dreadful English nightmare let them get to their sense a little and then we'll talk about another serious drubbing a bit latter.

  • kasyapm on August 16, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Who among the so called young guns has made a case to be included? India has been able to win the matches it has won because the bowlers fired (with Zak as the spearhead) and we haven't LOST because of the batting and the performances of the big 3 (or 4 if Sehwag is also included). Just look at the last major test series - the one in SA. Sachin and Laxman were the standout performers in the batting dept. How can they be put aside because of 1 bad performance? There is no doubt about Rohit Sharma's potential, but he has been woefully lacking in temperament and has lost out to Raina, Pujara and Kohli. Just look at his ODI record. I recollect Ian mentioning abou Rohit & Sehwag in someother article as well. Hinting that India just stayed on top on account of only Sehwag's & Zaheer's performance (not taking anything away from these 2 champion cricketers) would be ignorance to say the least. Necessary to touch upon the reason for the greats' failure instead of taking hasty decisions.

  • stalkonda on August 16, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    Aussies would have the upper hand.. Only and If Only.. V.V.S. announces his retirement before the Down Under Series.. Lol

  • Nampally on August 15, 2011, 23:59 GMT

    Ian, it is bit too soon to write India off for theAustralian tour later this year. The same team as toured England with 4 changes will do the trick.Ashwin, Kohli, Jadhev & R.Sharma will replace Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer and Mukund. Hopefully Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar will get some much needed batting practice and get into shape. Indian batting li9ne up is very strong and it is just unfortunate that they were short of practice & injuries to key players. No way Sehwag will get out for a pair again. Also the conditions in Australia are closer to Indian except the pitches are more bouncy. The ball does not seam or swing asmuch as in English conditions. So expect a solid Indian performance.ECB had a very bad schedule presented to India who unfortunately accepted it instead of putting all 4 county games ahead of the tests. This was a major factor in the indian defeat - lack of practice on Englishr pitches.ECB were crafty in putting such lop sided schedule & BCCI were too foolish to agree.

  • Alexk400 on August 15, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    No more short bowlers. It does not work unless you are malcolm marshall and he was 6 feet. India need 6feet 6" fast bowlers to match with aussies and england.

  • CandidIndian on August 15, 2011, 22:20 GMT

    Well its funny how people come to conclusion with result of one or two series, now every article i read points out that this is end of Indian cricket , dont we remember same English team who is no 1 now lost series to WI just 2 years back, who would have thought they will become no 1 so soon after losing to a weak WI side.Same Indian team was fighting hard against equally lethal pace attack of Steyn and morkel just 6 months ago and now they are in tatters against English attack.This is the time when no team has complete domination like Aus and WI had so we will see different results which are not according to predictions based on past performances.Talking about India -Aus series is too early, Aus have to face a tough series in SA first.While India has time to recover from this thumping defeat.

  • SaravananIsTheBest on August 15, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    Nicely balanced article. But only thing is, I couldnt match title with the contents :|

  • Confectionery_Stall on August 15, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    Well, Australia's real problem is batting. Watson is no threat in Tests, he gets a flashy fifty and gets out. Phil Hughes might swing his way to a couple of big scores. Against India's attack they may do okay, it depends if Zaheer gets fit. Ponting's now creaking, but again with India's attack he may prosper. Clarke likewise, if Australia make a good start and pressure doesn't tell on him -- captaining a middling side is tough; ask Atherton. Hussey-- class. Smith -- dross, play Khawaja. Haddin, will prosper against India's attack, much like Prior. Bowlers. Johnson will run through India's lineup and win one Test. Bollinger won't last the series, neither will Harris. India could hand Australia a couple of long days in the field, which will really test the conditioning of these young fast bowlers.

    Meanwhile, everything Chapelli says about India is true. I'd say it's too close to call but as an Englishman I'll keep my fingers crossed for India.

  • Shan156 on August 15, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    Ian Chappell is day-dreaming. India's big 3 and Sehwag will be too good for the Aussies. Their attack is not half as good as England's and the Indian batsmen love the Aussie conditions. Laxman, especially, is the scourge of Aussie bowlers and has had tremendous success against them. In the past, only Rahul and Sachin have had great success against England while Laxman and Sehwag have just been OK. However, against the Aussies, all 4 have great stats. Throw in Gambhir and you can see how intimidating that line-up is. Yes, they failed against England. But, it is just one failure. They will definitely bounce back against the Aussies. This might well be the last series down under for India's big 3 and Australia is one country (SA is the other) where they haven't won a series. The big 3 will be itching to set that record straight. If the Aussie bowlers will do well to keep the Indian batsmen under 500 in any of the tests.

  • NairUSA on August 15, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Batting is India's forte in cricket. Period. Groom the run getters in an international arena and reap the results in 2 to 3 years. There might be a dip in performance while that happens. On the bowling side, have the guts to put in at least 2 young fast bowlers on a prolonged period along with a wily medum pacer. Varun Aaron and Jaydev Unadkt comes to mind who can play along with Zaheer or Praveen. Sreesanth, Ishant and Munaf will have to fight for their places. As for spin, it is time to bring in Ashwin and see what he can offer.

  • Aniruddha_K on August 15, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    I think this is a good neutral take on the headaches that two test teams are having at the moment... Both have world class players but both have so many weak links as well.... India's batting has certainly let them down... The Indian middle order hasn't managed to score enough runs with enough consistency in the recent past. I think its time to unleash a new spinner that is Ashwin. This catastrophic series has been one hell of a wake up call to the players and the selectors....

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 15, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    Greg has done his part in putting emphasis on fielding, fitness and treating Ganguly shoddily; and now Ian is trying his best to show the unfounded ghost of slow fielding yet again read VVS, Dravid and Sachin. Yah yah! let's have live wires in the field who will hop, jump and skip while batting. Good logic eh? And Dhoni and shrewdness? Are you for real Ian? Please don't take Ian seriously. Just now the Indian Media, people and selectors are seeing the ludicrous captaincy of Dhoni. Beggars belief that you never forget to back the guy that will hurt India and put unfounded ghostly question marks on players that'll be helpful for India. Listen Ian, Dinesh Karthik is miles ahead of Dhoni as a batsman and as a keeper; and Dhoni is an aweful captain. Very bad article Ian. I don't think you will publish my post.

  • bumsonseats on August 15, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    as english and having beaten both teams 1 - 3 and leading 0 - 3 in the current series. i think i can give an honest view on both teams. if the aussies can play with 3 of their tall pace bowlers and watson backing them up, with hauritz as their spinner. india will struggle for the foreseeable future as i cannot see them getting out of the hole they are in, the team needs wholesale changes, along with a mentality change starting ith the board. the big 3 if picked lol, will find it very hard on the large grounds of australia. also they need a new spinner and a couple of new bowl bowlers. australia i feel will just about score enough. but need to get early wicket, as the spinner hauritz although about the best spinner in oz could struggle unless early wicket are not got by the pace bowlers. all in all, 2 - 0 to the aussies. dpk

  • TwitterJitter on August 15, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    So India did not play well or are not good enough. My question is why is rest of the world getting so tied up in knots if India is not doing well? If your concern is it will devalue Australia's summer this year then BCCI should promptly agree to cancel the test series vs Australia and the Aussies can go ahead and invite Poms and play one more Ashes series.

  • common_man007 on August 15, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    Ian is very much clear about exposing the new generation in the side. They have g ot the hunger. But money being such a temptation BCCI has no control over their own intentions. They need to have specific players to focus on the Test and the other on one day. This way they will be clearing the minds of the players and get their focus right.

  • Idea-Man on August 15, 2011, 14:36 GMT

    I totally agree with Ian Chappells summation, and I have been dreading this moment for the last two years, when India, it seemed to the world was doing mighty fine, albeit beating the low ranked and weaker teams to reach the No.1 ranking in tests. Why, I even think its ironic to mention here, of the phase when Greg Chappell was the Indian Coach, and we heard a lot of people saying that he was trying to change the Indian players individuality, by trying his brand of Australian style of Cricket with our Indian players. Ofcourse, we know what Australian cricketers do to perform to the highest level - practice and practice and practice, which sorry to say our Indian players do not adhere to. One look at the Indian cricket calendar and its no secret, IPL has top priority with the BCCI, the top Indian Cricketers and the public alike. I would like to ask one and all - what improvements has the IPL brought in the basic performances of our top players in test matches. Where are the new faces

  • ChuckyDoll on August 15, 2011, 13:45 GMT

    Somehow, I feel that Australian wickets are different than England. Just like many, I am a mere spectator, but this Indian unit, batting and bowling, will fare better in Australia than in England. Now, the divide between India and Aus/Eng is so large that a mere better performance does not mean that they will be able to take out 20 wickets. I am bracing for a tough 4 or 5 years going ahead. It will be painful but I lived through pain in the 80's and 90's. Let's get ready for a rough ride. Has England out-swinged as opposed to out-bounded India ?

  • cricketpurist on August 15, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    Ian, Dont start your mind games so early..we have alot of time for this statement. Remember wounded tiger is more dangerous for the jumping kangaroo's. yes we have been beaten to death in england, but playing against Aussie will surely bring in that extra effort from all our team mates, "WE D'ONT MIND WAITING till a Boxing day" to see Sachin getting 100 100s

  • TJM101 on August 15, 2011, 13:26 GMT

    There's nothing for India to worry about! Sure, they will probably lose the test series 4-0, but then it is the one day series which India will win easily, hey Tendulkar may well get his 100th 100. Then everything will be ok in Indian cricket again and no changes will be needed by the BCCI or within the team line up. Then they will go to Australia as favourites with full support and the belief that they will win. Afterall there won't be any of those tricky English conditions and England bowlers (who can only bowl at home with any success), or those pesky batsmen scoring all those runs against bowlers with no experience of the helpful bowling conditions. And then India will lose again...

  • makeshift on August 15, 2011, 12:51 GMT

    I agree with Chappell's comments- This time he's got it spot on

  • Neutral007 on August 15, 2011, 12:45 GMT

    Indian cricket board forgot the term 'Failing to prepare is nothing but preparing to fail'. The poor planning and money oriented officials ruining Indian cricket.

  • maddy1986 on August 15, 2011, 12:45 GMT

    well r ashwin is a natural sucessor of harbhajan ,he and amit mishra will form a good combination in subcontinent pitches i swear :)

  • vsreddy4u on August 15, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    I think for oz tour india won't change their batting lineup except no.6 position which is volatile since the departure of the great ganguly.As chappell wrote rohit sharma is the better choice as he performed well last season downunder.I feel raina,virat and yuvi are presently lokking out of sorts facing the short ball.Though left hand batsmen are the best choice at no.6 but both raina n yuvi are not in good touch. Comapred to England side Oz have the same capabilitities in bowling department.Often they were superior to englishmen in testing the temperament of the touring sides.I think india have to go with praveen,zaheer,ishanth,rp singh and in spin they are better equipped with harbajan and ojha.The tour of australia is a tough task to dhoni as a captain but i am sure he will come out with glory of reclaiming the lost crown in test arena.

  • Roobear2009 on August 15, 2011, 10:01 GMT

    Chappell's thoughts about India's batting are simply wrong. there's no point in just blooding in youngsters for the sake of it. currently noone stands out as good enough for test level. Yuvraj has had many chances and not shown consistency whilst Ghambir and Sehwag are still young enough. Kohli looks a better option than Reina but the rest should stay. India's line up shouldn't be considered weak after one poor series. Laxman has always looked good but found ways to get out, Dravid has just come of 2 centuries and Tendulkar has had an amazing 2 years so can have a bad series. Before these guys are replaced, the youngsters need to be taught how to play the short ball otherwise any half decent attack will destroy them.

  • Dr.Vindaloo on August 15, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    @Shanky123 - there is one thing missing in Sachin, Laxman and Dravid's cricket careers, and that is victory in Australia. I am sure that is the reason that they have not retired. They would have been eyeing this series against a relatively weak Australia and thinking that this was a golden opportunity to finish their careers with the final feather in their caps. I back each of them to make runs there too. Each has a great record in Australia and I have seen enough even during his horrific tour to suggest that they have at least one more big series in them. Let's see!

  • No_Excuses on August 15, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    Chappell is right in some regards - Australia has a good batch of young quick bowlers who are all tall and can all bowl at 140 kms plus. He is referring to James Pattinson (likely to play against Sri Lanka), Josh Hazelwood, Mitchell Starc and Patrick Cummins. Cummins is an outstanding talent, is only 18 but could be the next McGrath if properly managed. I don't think that group will all be ready for India but Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle and Doug Bollinger will be getting very nervous in the next season or two. Throw in Mitch Marsh, who can also bowl at 140 kms plus, and you have the nucleus of a good team for the next ten years.

  • here2rock on August 15, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    4-0 to Australia. India refuse to learn from their mistakes. Only one practice game before the series at a non test playing venue ( Mankia Oval) against the former number 1 team. I bet the Aussies can't wait! Poor planning is preparation for failure! They need three practice games and India needs to treat them as test matches rather than practice games.

  • hilditchmustgo on August 15, 2011, 2:49 GMT

    Chappelli does make a good point. India are never usually easy beats but Aus does have a good batch of young fast bowlers. The trick is selection consistency which currently we're not seeing. If we had - Watson, Hughes, Khawaja, Clarke, Ferguson, Marsh, Paine, Johnson, Hauritz/O'Keefe, Harris and Siddle/George/Copeland - We'd do pretty well. Stick with this team for a good year and we'll get some good results.

  • Nampally on August 15, 2011, 0:41 GMT

    An excellent summary of the Indian teams shortcomings, Ian. I agree 100% that both the Indian selectors & BCCI have failed miserably in their duties to address the needs of the Indian test cricket. Furthermore, the current England tour schedule was so bad that almost all county matches are after the 4 tests instead of before. These matches would have given Indian batsmen some experience of the English pitches. This was the main reason for what you called "abysmal" Indian performance. The team missed 2 young batsmen - Kohli & Rohit Sharma. In bowling the off spinner Ashwin was omited. He is better than Harbhajan, who must retire from test Cricket.Mukund is a talented player who lacks experience. As for Australia India will still rely on Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir & Dhoni to carry their batting. They will do much better in Australia.Ishant, Kumar, Sree will still be the pace bowlers with Ashwin & Mishra in spin.If they perform to their potential they will do well.

  • Number_5 on August 14, 2011, 23:15 GMT

    If anything this could prove a bonus for Aussie fans this summer. With many of us forecasting a cakewalk for the Indians it would be great to see a good spirited even contest instead of the one sided debacle we saw last summer down under. In a small way the Indians are facing what the Aussies did a few summers ago, hang on to aging players or blood the young ones. We saw to Australia's detriment what hanging onto the old ones has now cost us. Selfishly however Id love to see the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid and co here for one last time, the litlle master score his 100th 100th on Adelaide oval and an even contest played in the best competitive spirit....one can only pray..bring on summer!!

  • stanlee on August 14, 2011, 22:25 GMT

    India's demise can partly be attriibuted to two factors- an aging line up as Chappell has noted, but more importantly with their preoccupation on the shorter versions of the game and the financial rewards accruing from same - the IPL is now king- to the detriment of Test cricket, an entirely different kettle of fish.Then when you come up against a thoroughly professional unit as England your flaws will be ruthlessly exposed.Also as Chappell has also stated, their is a genuine weakness among their best young batsmen-Sharma,Raina and Kohli against short pitched bowling. I am happy to be proved wrong, but based on what I saw in the West Indies and now against England this flaw is quite evident. I am afraid grim days lie ahead in the test arena.

  • Shanky123 on August 14, 2011, 21:49 GMT

    Sachin,Laxman Rahul should have been already taken decision to retire before the England series and did not spoil their individual records. Atleast we would have the excuse to say that we are building team and we can perform better in coming series like Australia . Why these star's want to retire on a loosing series i dont understand. already have everything to their credit. What more to prove ? World cup and test ranking already achieved, Lots of money @ IPL why to loose reputation ?

  • andrew27994 on August 14, 2011, 21:08 GMT

    I think India has a much better chance of winning the series than Australia. The reason being that they will get the whole month of November to get both rest as well as preparation. Australia, on the other hand, will have to play a lot of cricket starting with the current tour of Sri Lanka, followed by the tour of South Africa, then with New Zealand, and almost immediately with India. The players might face the same problem India are currently facing, i.e, fatigue and tiredness. Its a rough schedule for them just like what India are going through now.Unless if Australia rest some players for some matches especaially against New Zealand.India have been playing too much cricket since the World Cup. That has to be the reason why they havent performed their best. It could happen to Australia if they are not careful about that

  • zico123 on August 14, 2011, 21:03 GMT

    selectors have given opportunity to younger players yuvraj, Raina, Vijay, Kolhi, but none of the younger players have grabbed it, Pujara is definitely future of india's test cricket, Rohit and Kohli have to choose between T20 and Test cricket, it is high time they get serious if they want to be the integral part of Indias test future, or they are too satisfied playing ODI and IPL only.

  • zico123 on August 14, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    our big 3 -sachin, rahul and laxman may be the oldest in the side, but they are still the best 3 test batmen India have, the younger players have problems against short pitched bowling, not the big 3, so bottom line we don't have seasoned talented younger players yet to displace the big 3

  • Rezaul on August 14, 2011, 20:59 GMT

    After watching India being outplayed by England in three consecutive Tests, I would like to advice them to play more Tests against teams like NZL, WI, Bangladesh and Zimb so that they can get some more points and get back #1 position. Ohh of course play at home not away!

  • Alexk400 on August 14, 2011, 19:53 GMT

    Australia has to use Same formula against Indians. But i do not think it is possible, australia have too many short bowlers. One short bowler will kill the plan. You are as strong as your weakest link. What england have is all Tall bowlers and also can bat. Aussie fights for sure but they don't have the bowling that scare indians. They need to get rid of mitchell johnson. Thy won't do it. They need to find mor bollinger type bowlers. And al bowlers should learn to bat, To beat india easy. England series is great template against subcontinent teams. Planning is one thing personal and execution is another. Knowing aussie play , they execute well but they reaally do not have personal ( 4 tall bowlers). Until then it all depends on who play well on that day.

  • ahmadjeens on August 14, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Come on guys.... India have lost only the first series in nearly two years. Although I am from Pakistan, I must say that all the Indians should be proud of what their team has achieved in terms of records and everything else. You guys are the world champions.

    Ishant Sharma and Shreesanth, they gave their hundred percent in the series. But since they are new to England's seeming conditions, you can not expect them to blow away the English Batsmen. I feel really bad for the Indian bowling unit as I could see the disappointment and fear on their faces.

    But I must add here that the same English team struggled to get things going for them when Mohammad Amir and Asif were bowling at them.

    Having lost the second test against Pakistan with the series evened at 1-1, English lobby came up with a brilliant plan to distract the Pakistani bowling unit.

    India has a strong betting line up, I wish they had a equally good bowling attack as well, to make up one great team.

  • deol84 on August 14, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    Harbhjan is big let down bowler for India but still playing for the country,now is the time for mishra and ashwin.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 14, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Of course its not over yet. Anything could happen. Both teams are struggling and will struggle for a while.

  • CHARLA on August 14, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    FOR ONCE I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH IAN CHAPPELL.RATHER THAN BEING DEFENSIVE AND TURNING OUR CHEEK AWAY,WE SHOULD STAND UP,ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENED AS A FACT OF LIFE AND INEVITABLE.YES-OUR BATTING IS OLD AND WEAK.OUR BOWLING IS YOUNG AND WEAK.OUR FIELDING IS WEAKER,YOUNG OR OLD.WE SHOULD IN FACT BE GRATEFUL FOR SMALL MERCIES IN BEING NO.1 FOR 20 MONTHS.OUR PLAN NOW SHOULD AT LEAST BE FOR 5 YEARS HENCE,THE 3 MANTRAS BEING---DO NOT SELECT ANYONE IF HE IS NOT A VERY GOOD FIELDER,ABOLISH THE PLAYER CONTRACT SYSTEM AS IT MAKES THE PLAYERS COMPLASCENT AND REDUCE THEIR PAYMENTS AS WELL.FINALLY TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT IPL.OUR BUSINESSMEN HAVE CORRUPTED CRICKET TOTALLY AS THEY DID THE POLITICIANS. WE SHOULD IN FACT THANK CHAPPELL FOR BEING FORTHRIGHT--MIND YOU,I DO NOT LIKE HIM ONE BIT. STILL....

  • ttyX on August 14, 2011, 16:41 GMT

    Let's be a little realistic, current Oz team can't thrash India like England but this Indian team hasn't got anything on the current Oz team. Oz will come back hard, so India beware!

  • Naren on August 14, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    You jump too soon always and mostly your predictions turn terrible. Don't start creating pressure on the Australian team. When your predictions turn bad, you will start wanting somebody's head. Just focus on the current issues and give constructive feedback if you can and stop predicting.

  • subraasiva on August 14, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    @mitgop11 :Rightly said its exaggeration from chappel.He said in 2007 that if india has to Win 2011 world cup sachin has to retire and leave way for youngsters.India won the world cup and sachin excelled with 2 tons.Lets do opposite to what Ian Chappel says.........

  • mensan on August 14, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    I don't fully agree with I. Chappell. I think it will be a closely fought series as AUS have their own fair share of problems. I expect India to do better Downunder but they will need to find a couple of good spinners ASAP.

  • mmazumdar on August 14, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    The underlying theme in this series is that - though the players/ BCCI will state otherwise, India is not interested in Test matches. Everything is going for the Shorter version of the fame (financially, media etc...) and - following India's world cup win, this has weighed on the team. Frankly, I didnt know India was #1 in Test matches (and didnt care much) until this series started. Test matches have no tournaments, no cups, no prize money,...does this ranking matter? I guess it will matter in seeding for nxt world cup groupings? I love Chappell but for me and to most of my friends, multi-day marathon games are well...just boring. If India and world takes Test seriously, they should structure the incentives: Tournaments, cups, money....you got the drift. Following The ICC ranking go up and down is like watching paint dry.. Yawn!

  • Rahul_Paharia on August 14, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    Chappel's has two favorite players, Mishra & Rohit Sharma. He goes to any extent to support these two players. Both of them are not performing well. Rohit Sharma has been terribly inconsistent in his short career. Mishra has been pathetic to say the least. His performance is the last test suggests he should not be picked for atleast the next 2 seasons. But still he continues to get Chappel's support. All this leads me not trust his opinion any further. This article should at best be ignored.

  • samudralakiku on August 14, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    @mitgop11 - I think this is not an opportunistic exaggeration by Ian Chappell. Lot of Indian fans don't like the bitter pill of reality. If India play the way they played in England, Aussies have good enough bowlers to expose the Indian line up. May be our bowlers can perform better against Aussie batting than English batting. But I do see some point in Chappels view. Let's hope that India does not lose against Aussies. If they do, it is a shame on Dhoni's team.

  • on August 14, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    india missed md kaif in england as he has played county for 3 sides and has a very good record in england , he is technically correct and can handle short ball but just like irfan pathan is been ignored from top honor for a while now .

  • SnowSnake on August 14, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    Never estimate India or any other team for that matter, I say. India will be at home and will be dangerous. They have played last 3 series outside India and have appeared to have lost edge. However, once at home, they will start to regain the lost ground in rankings. Australia has played in sub-continent for a while and given the progress of SL series, they will be difficult to beat in India as well. I think Australia and India will begin about the same, but Australia might be a bit stronger. Aussies have a good chance nevertherless as long as they don't undersetimate India.

  • TJM101 on August 14, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    I think India's bowlers will struggle in Australia; they have been toothless against England in all but 1 innings. The Indian batsmen have also been dreadful, but against a very good (not great) attack. Australia's bowlers aren't as good at the moment but with home conditions and support you have to fancy Australia to win the series. Never have I seem a team with more overweight players in my life as this current Indian team; its like watching a weightwatchers 11 playing. Hate to think what they will be like fielding on the larger grounds in Australia, my guess is a complete joke if they don't sort it out quickly.

  • sairamama on August 14, 2011, 14:27 GMT

    it was aussies complete strength during the recent ashes....so its not all over,india do have the 4 test,there will be some improvements.didnt the so called pace attack from aussies go down????????

  • Truemans_Ghost on August 14, 2011, 13:49 GMT

    I seem to remember Chappell being absolutely certain that Australia would win the last ashes too......

  • MaruthuDelft on August 14, 2011, 13:45 GMT

    @smudgeon, it is because once he opined Tendulkar should retire; see; he has not stated it this time. He doesn't intend to wind up Indians but he is usually frank while Indian cricket fans always live on names(Tendulkar is god, National Treasure), history, the stupid ranking system, statistics, childish arguements(still they don't accept not winning a test series in Oz and SA is a huge disqualification for claiming India a truly great cricketing nation, they would say Sachin is better than Viv Richards...). However Chappel is not completely frank; he always tries to put down Viv Richards a bit; I don't know why?

  • SibaMohanty on August 14, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    Dear Mr Chappell, You must be kidding. Have you looked at the Aussie side? Even an Ajantha Mendis makes the Aus XI look vulnerable today. You had three innings defeats during the last Ashes.

    Now you say "If they get the bulk of their young fast bowlers fit for selection, Australia should field a decent pace attack." Where are the bulk of this young thing? Get real, Mr Chappell and come to realise that Aussie domination is a thing of past. Your Test captain looks worse than an ageing Rahul Dravid.

    By the way, was it not you who made a scathing attack on Dravid during the New Zealand tour of India when he scored a ton saying he is a dead horse and can not stand up to the English bowlers. Where are you hiding now?

  • Mojoman on August 14, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    As usual, it takes a foreigner to criticise the Indian selectors properly! Cricinfo staff just do not have the guts to do so. Why? Thank you for at least publishing Ian Chappel's opinions!

  • Herbet on August 14, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    I havn't seen any of the young Aussie quicks so I cant comment on them. I assume they will pick Mitchell Johnson though, and I'd imagine his 95mph half trackers will manner from heaven for Sehwag. Ryan Harris looked handy and hostile in the Ashes and i reckon he could damage the Indians, but he seems a bit podgy and injury prone. That leaves the other 2 spots for a young quick, who could get Sehwaged, and a non spinning spinner who you'd expect the Indians to eat alive. Australia's batting was wowful v England and heavily reliant on Hussey. Watson needs to carry on past 40 and Clarke and Ponting need to stand up and join Hussey. Hughes and Khawaja look like rabbits! India need to say thanks and goodbye to Laxman and go Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Khan, I Sharma, Mishra, Ojha. Should be tight between 2 off colour sides, Aussie pace the decider.

  • Wacco on August 14, 2011, 12:44 GMT

    India will be #5 after the Aus series - I bet. Indian players know that. With the crop of players and administrators around, India will soon make WI look menacing. Indian supporters have lot of grief stored for them in coming months for sure. i feel for them.

  • addiemanav on August 14, 2011, 12:41 GMT

    When a dom/intl t20 tnmnt is a bigger priority than an overseas test ,things cant be right!Ironically, BCCI was only board who was against t20 format & t20 WC around 5 years back!they said it wud harm quality of cricket!they wer actually opposing it bcoz they felt that a 3hr game wont generate revenue that a 7 hr ODI can generate!But in 2007 t20 WC,india with young team shockingly won the t20 world cup.I have known about t20 format since its inception in 2003,but I bet most ppl came to know about it only during the 2007 WC!Then india bcame crazy about t20 & IPL was a model that was going to fill their appetite! Even those who didn't like the game started following this new league! Its gr8 that more & more ppl follow the game but there has been gradual decline in test followers! But now t20 games hav bcome boring & monotonous.has nothing new to offer.novelty factor is gone!allowed mediocre players to bcome superstars overnight & this isnt a good sign for future of Indian test cricket!!

  • addiemanav on August 14, 2011, 12:41 GMT

    IPL is hurting Indian cricket and that's a harsh reality that all of us have to admit! I am not saying this just bcoz of the current defeat..question is,what will happen 15 years down the line??The kids only want to play IPL coz it is more glamorous and pays more!Infact T20 format is the biggest villain! Bcoz the skills required for a t20 player are much less than a test player, and bcoz ipl has become so big,that kids wont really care about playing the tougher format! The quality and techniques will be poorer!!this may well be the last set of great Indian players that is playing! There was a time when april-may used to be the off-season for Indian team ,and most players used to travel to England and play county cricket to improve their skills and fitness !Now most of them fool around in IPL !The current lot of players might still keep test cricket higher but what about 10-12 year old kids?? its not just india who is suffering..many teams r half of what they wer 10 yrs ago!

  • CricketChat on August 14, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    Ian has it put it mildly when he says, India's chances does not look good. He should have said Ind doesn't stand a chance. Unsurprisingly, the team is showing their age with several key players pushing well into 30s. The excess cricket is showing on their performances and fitness. They have undeniable problems with batting, bowling and below par fielding. My guess is that Aus will crush them in their own country. Ind team will be in transition mode for the next 3-4 yrs.

  • Sanj747 on August 14, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    Spot on IC regarding the Indians. Rohit Sharma is not in the Indian team as he was not a mate of Dhoni just like what happened wot Brad Hodge with Ponting. In the end these things catch up with teams. Rohit Sharma has the technique and temperament not like Raina, Yuvraj, Kohli, Vijay and Mukund. As for the aussies beating India, hard to see either team getting 20 wickets. A drawn series is what I can see.

  • sundar1967 on August 14, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    I fully agree with the comments given by Tennyson

  • myview4u41179 on August 14, 2011, 12:15 GMT

    Chappel has got it spot on here, wat is india going to do when 3 players retire

    sachin ( who is expecting others to retire so he can play till 42), dravid and laxman.

    Selectors should boldy come out with new guys give them tough tours.. ofcourse we will looose but we are moulding new guns remember..

    NO GAIN WITHOUT PAIN.

  • chin-music on August 14, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    Both Aus & India have had roughly similar falls from grace - but it's easy to see that Aus will recover much faster. For the simple reason that I don't see any Aussie pretending that the hiding from England at home was "just a one-off series loss" or find any other excuses - instead they have just got on with the long hard ungalmorous job of rebuilding a team. India on the other hand will live on imagined past glories & pretend for the next couple of years that fate/injuries/scheduling etc etc conspired against them & therefore, will field the same mix of past-expiry date batting, sub -130k bowling & club level fielding in Aus later this year. If Aus still do not win hands down - they will have only themselves to blame.

  • jonesy2 on August 14, 2011, 12:01 GMT

    australia should absolutely pummel india come this summer, no excuses. if the indian batsmen struggled against englands pace bowlers then they will have no hope against australia's smorgasboard of superstar fast men.

  • praspar on August 14, 2011, 11:55 GMT

    @ Kiwi Rocker

    SO when did you last see england win a test series in inda? lets try in pakistan? maybe in srilanka? not even in south africa? come on may be the west indies atleast? they have not won anything. i understand india got drubbed by the better team in the series, but this logic you trying to make out of dust makes no sense. fact remains no one has emerged to be as good as the aussies of the 90' and 2000's who can win constantly so the whole point of a number one test team is of no relevance.

  • pb10677 on August 14, 2011, 11:55 GMT

    Gupta.Ankur has it right. Good players don't become bad players overnight. They just don't.

    I'm an England fan, and am obviously delighted with the outcome of this series, and at the same time surprised at how India have struggled because I know what they are capable of. I fully expect them to come out firing for pride at the Oval and win - they are definitely capable of doing so.

    As for longer term, and the Australia tour - yes, things may look bleak but once the right plan is put together and starts to be actioned, you'll be surprised how quickly things can start to turn around. England themselves are a good example - Feb 2009 - lost by an innings in Jamaica to WI having been bowled out for 51 Aug 2009 - six months later, we regain the Ashes beating Australia

    So all is not lost Indian fans - not at all!!!!

  • vallavarayar on August 14, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    You called it first Ian. That the Indian team would find it difficult to hold onto the test crown with the lack of high quality bowlers. India plays with only 4 bowlers and it seems Zaheer Khan is the only quality bowler they've got. Batting paper tigers won't win you matches outside the Subcontinent. You need bowlers to take 20 wickets, and going by the looks of things at Edgebaston, England could've scored 1000 runs if it was a timeless test. Sri Lanka put up a better fight this summer against England.

  • Sam_Patel_US on August 14, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    @KiwiRocker_PoliticallyIncorrect : I think you should have put India below Zimbabwe, That would make you even happier...People like you always hated India at the top. No one is making any excuses after loosing against England. We all can see that England played far better cricket than India except few Indian cricfans who will never appreciate Opposition team's effort. But every cricketing countries have few such fans. You got tobe bit more open minded abt such things. And don't forget Tendulkar Dravid and laxman have faced far better bowlers than Anderson & company in their cricketing career. Just bcoz you don't rate them as Legends , won't change the reality. They would still get a standing ovation every time they walk to the field. Indian team do have some issues regarding fitness and fielding, They will have to work hard on that to survive in today's competitive cricket.

  • Gizza on August 14, 2011, 11:22 GMT

    Both Australia and India are in a down period. You also have to remember that this England team is better than Australia in Australian conditions. Both teams however, need their younger players to step up. I think the performance of the younger players (In India's case, if they are selected because many oldies haven't retired yet although there are still a few within the Aus camp) will determine the series and will determine the future of the teams. Both India and Australia could challenge England and South Africa for the top spot in 2-3 years. But it has to be with the new generation. This is 2011. The "Noughties" decade is gone and it is time to move on.

  • CricSare on August 14, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    India will be no 6 or 7 after their tours to Aus n SL.

  • bumsonseats on August 14, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    chappells right they will struggle in oz. australia is still the hardest place to tour. u get it in the ear from every source. they may be 4/5 in icc list but i expect them to win 2 - 0.

  • Dhriti01 on August 14, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    Better do not talk about World No. 1, India. It is shame of cricket rating. A team who can not beat Australia, Srilanka, South Africa in away series and can only beat weaker team line bangladesh, newzealand and West Indies to be no. 1. It is shame.. Indian team standard should no.7 or 8 only. nothing to say much..

  • aalkool on August 14, 2011, 10:52 GMT

    Where is the depth in Indian domestic cricket to succeed at Test level? Of the relatively young batsmen, only Cheteshwar Pujara seems to be able to deal with pace, bounce and movement. On the pace bowling front, the prospects look bleak. Though Rahul Sharma and R. Ashwin have soime potential to be quality spinners, wil it be wise to throw them in the deep end against Australia? In a way, this loss can prove to be blessing for the development of Test cricket in India; if the board and India's senior cricketers are honest enough to admit the various shortcomings.

  • rahulcricket007 on August 14, 2011, 10:25 GMT

    i think chappell is saying right . zaheer is out of the field for atleast 3 or 4 months . bhajji has been out of form however i hope he will perform well due to his rivalry against aussies . although batting has been little worry but i m hopeful that the big 3 will soon come back in the form ( i hope them to click in the last test at oval ). mind me australia are very good side at home . one ashes defeat can't rule them out . there fast bowlers will use short pitched ball specially against raina .i don't know what raina is doing in the test team ? please stop including more csk players in the test team . i completely agree with chapell to include rohit sharma in place of raina . rohit has very good techique and has patience and temperament . he can be a good player at the test level. its time to throw raina out of the test team he has no patience & he play tests like odi . we already had one destuctive player in our team ( sehwag ) which is perfect for us .

  • cool2cool on August 14, 2011, 10:21 GMT

    Australia lost to the same England team 3-1 at their home, with all 3 being innings defeat. India lost in Englad, even thogh they are big losses, atleast not as bad as Australia did.

  • CricFin on August 14, 2011, 10:15 GMT

    Pre mature page filler I would say

  • petz on August 14, 2011, 10:12 GMT

    its a good article ,just tearing Indias fake covering,..........Indian batsmen against short ball is pathetic.We have to admit that.and atleast no one has shown any improvement in that.................experiments keep on going................ Raina got enough chanse.he is not a test player at al Indian selectors are playing ..... you know badri is a test player ,thy tried him in ODI.they have to give him more chances..................

  • Indiawise on August 14, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Hopefully the selection errors of the England tour will be corrected when the team is selected for the Australian tour. A major reason for the success of the English bowlers is their ability to swing the ball both ways. However, both Ishant Sharma and Sreesanth are relatively uni-dimensional. One fails to understand the reasons for Munaf Patel's selection if he is not considered an adequate replacement (and R P Singh has to be brought in as replacement), what is the logic in having him in the team. And Munaf can swing the ball both ways. Similarly, the reasons for Wriddhiman's presence in the team is best known to the selectors as against a Dinesh Karthik who had proved himself in earlier tours as far as test cricket is concerned. Suresh Raina has always been an over-rated test player and in the absence of Cheteshwar Pujara, a Rohit Sharma or a Virat Kohli should have been in the original team.

  • shakkw on August 14, 2011, 9:29 GMT

    Ian spot one once again, i can see Indian team lying in 5-6 position within few months. The defeat of India may be a surprise to their loyal supporters but it doesn't surprise many. You go to restaurant you know why fish is on the table because it opened its mouth. Indian talked and projected themselves too much and no doubt quality Eng team gave them very tough time. The truth is India does not have outstanding batsmen and Dravid,VVS, Tandulkar play in patches and are not consistent and other batsmen can play only on the flat pitches. Moreover India got high position due to poor performance by Australia, SA and West Indies. Forget about their bowling even schewag, Gambhir, Raina, even Sachin can not play on Swing and bouncy pitches. Too much commercialism and 20-20 going to heart them alot.

  • tfjones1978 on August 14, 2011, 9:12 GMT

    We wont know until the NZ series in Australia how the new Australian team is performing. Australia lost an entire generation of players in 2.5 years, including 15 players from our regular test & ODI teams that would walk into this current test squad.

    Australia's main problems is our selection inconsistencies. If Australia put in their in form players with experience then Australia could beat India 4-0.

    Australia needs to stop selecting a new spinner every 2 or 3 tests and stick with on for say 6 months. Why put a player in the team for 5 days and then drop them? How can a players form change so much in 5 days? It shows that the problem lies with the selectors and not the players.

    I recommend that either Australia go in with two specialist spinners & three specialist pace bowlers or no spinners and four specialist pace bowlers. I think 5 batsmen, 1 wicky, 2 spinners & 3 pace bowlers is what Australia needs right now.

    Our top six needs to get us 80% of the runs (eg: 5/320).

  • OnlyKaps on August 14, 2011, 9:12 GMT

    Ian you may be a bit premature with predicting India's demise.India have lost the No 1 spot but dont be suprised of the find the motivation to beat Australia in Australia for the firsttime (and regain it by adding the necessary points ) so that the stalwarts can then retire in peace ( having not been able to accomplish that last time around ). The Indian attack will include R Ashwin and the pace attack will include a few new names .. perhaps Chahar or Unadkat Or Mithun, and hopefully a fitter Zaheer and in form Ishant and Harbajan who does his best against Australia, RP Singh, Praveen and Munaf have always eyed an Australian tour. Batting in Australia is not the challenge that it once was, the mental battle was won on the last two tours.

  • boooonnie on August 14, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    If this Aust vs India series was played tomorrow then I would still tip India to win. Aust's test team is in a far bigger mess after losing to the poms then India is after losing this latest series. At least India has SOME stability in their bowling ranks while Aust, thanks to injury and bad selections, is still unpredictable and largely ineffective (unless Johnson fires and who can predict that!). Of course a lot depends on Aust performance in Sri Lanka and South Africa but after seeing some of the selections recently i have a bad feeling things are not going to get for Aust. The Aussies may be lambs to the slaughter for a very hungry and burnt Indian touring team - particularly if Khan and Sehwag are back and fit.

  • timmyw on August 14, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    Chappelli isn't saying Australia will flog India. He is saying it's going to be a lot closer than everyone thought it might have been 3 months ago, due to poor decisions from Indian management. Indeed, I get the feeling he thinks they will win with the correct selections. He's right too. I don't see anywhere in his article that he says Australia will destroy India, perhaps the sensationalist title stirred the pot a little. Did many of you actually read it or just the title? I think Ian does this on purpose to see who actually reads his articles. Pretty funny. The whole point of the title of the article was to point out that if India don't prepare for their tour of Australia correctly and with good solid decisions, their chances of losing go through the roof.

  • dutchy on August 14, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Far too early to call - India have a lot of very classy players and Australia are very weak, especially with our selectors' current tendency to pick players for work experience rather than expecting them to actually perform. If our bowlers click and our batsmen do okay then we are in with a chance - but it only takes winning a few crucial sessions to win a series, as England proved in 2009.

  • monis11 on August 14, 2011, 8:42 GMT

    Who will take 20 Wickets? Who will take catches? Why your slip fielders stand 1 meter back than required? Injuries to players, where is log record of hoe many matches each individual has played. Zaheer was quick when he joined the team india, so as Nehra, Munaf, Ishant; why they cant bowl a spell of 140+kmh now. List is not ending. What happened to Irfan Pathan & Agarkar? next is praveen. What is happening with Harbajan is the same. Most disappointing thing was attitude missing; how could they call off that match against Windies? Dont it worth a try to win that match?

  • bhav22 on August 14, 2011, 8:33 GMT

    To KiwiRocker-PoliticallyIncorrect:

    Well played England, credit where credit is due they out played Indian in every department. For you to say India dont deserve the number 2 is wrong. Firstly this is the 1st series India have lost to England since 1996. Secondly when was the last time England won in the sub continent, apart from Bangladesh. Thirdly did it not take England 10+ years to beat the Aussies at home and away???? Oh didnt India stop the Aussies great run of 16 test win in a row twice.

  • spinkingKK on August 14, 2011, 8:23 GMT

    Ian is right in many ways. However, I just can't understand these so called experts still talking about Dhoni's shrewdness. Dhoni's captaincy was one of the reason why India has been outplayed like this in the series. Dhoni meglected Sreesanth's match-winning abilities in the second test and that was the main reason why India lost that match. If he was so shrewd, he shouldn't have sent Sehwag, who is coming back from a long lay off, to open on a green top when there was another young opener who was showing signs of maturing into an excellent test opener. A shrewd captain would have tried his best to get the most out of his youngest of the batting stars and slotted him in the middle order. In Australia, India can do better than what they did in England. Because, there won't be much expectations from them. Also, with ball not swinging as much, Indian batting will come good. We could also see at least one of the senior batsmen retiring before the tour, new captian and one new paceman.

  • akram_md on August 14, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    Mr. chappell this is the same indian team to be the world no.1 for nearly 21 months and if this series only is to be not taken into consideration they have performed quite well. for me the main problem was the win in world cup it is some sort of saturation point and for the team to pull itself up for next series which is not so big would always be difficult and hence there was not that spirit to fight it will come after some time. Just wait and watch

  • mitgop11 on August 14, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    The current Australian team would have lost to this England team as well. I dont think Aussies are strong enough to beat India like England did. Also, i dont think the selectors could have done anything better than this. Any kid will suffer with the pace and swing and bounce that they havent seen in domestic cricket. India will slide in rankings but wont lose to the current Australian team badly. It is an opportunistic exaggeration by Ian Chappell.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on August 14, 2011, 7:55 GMT

    Ishant,rp singh,irfan pathan,sreesanth,munaf,umesh yadav,varun aaron,ojha,mishra,rohit,virat,raina,pujara,rahane all should play minimum 2 seasons of county cricket to improve their technical,mental and physical strength how to train for test coz these are the future of test and odis for india may be w might drop in rankings but in long term thats the best solution remember 5-0 ashes drubbing of england and how PROFESSIONAL they are currently if a nation without a WC can achieve it we can surely do it

  • johnathonjosephs on August 14, 2011, 7:53 GMT

    Whooaaaa.... we're moving a little to fast aren't we? Australia tour is in December, about 4 solid months from now. Definetely these guys will try to get their act together by then at least..... Anyways, remember you heard it here first, but Tendulkar will retire from ODI's in the SL-Aus-India tri tournament

  • KiwiRocker- on August 14, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    One of the biggest mistakes Indian fans and Indian team can make is trying to find excuses for this loss. This has been one of biggest domination of one cricket nation on another. India has lost by massive margins.The gap between India and England is bigger than grand canyon. Problem is that a flawed ICC ranking system has lulled India into a land of fantacy. Indian team has not won in England, Australia, SL, Pakistan and SA so how were they number one team to start with? India also does not desrve to be No.2. Correct ranking is England, SA, Australia, SL and Pakistan. India has not got a bowling attack like any of the five mentioned teams. India's over rated batting flaws are masked on flat tracks. Players like Gambhir, Raina, Kohli are sitting ducks against quality fast bowlers while the impostor Tendulya only scores when least needed. Indian fans and teams should accept that they have lost against a very good English team and prepare for a new possible loss by big margins against OZ

  • SmellyCat on August 14, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    Spot on the assessment of the poor vision and planning by the Selectors. Rohit Sharma and R Ashwin should have played tests in WI and Virat Kohli should have been persisted with in England. India primarily put up a poor show because of misplaced priorities, poor planning and preparation. WI tour was the ideal opportunity to get oiled for the England tour.

    However, in my opinion Australia's bounce wont be much of a problem for the experienced batsmen. Fitness and preparation would be the key, and I think R Ashwin should get a look in ahead of Harbhajan. Probably also good time to blood in some young fast bowler who just wants to bowl fast and there are couple of them. Ishant and Zaheer have to be at their best to challenge Australia though.

  • Tjoeps on August 14, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    Greetings from SA! I think Ian is spot on here, India has got a huge mountain to climb, but isn't the next few months mouth watering for Test Cricket lovers, with Aussie playing SL, then come to SA, which last have been playing cricket in the WC! With Gary in the mix? SL visiting us thereafter! I think the rankings would be blown wide open by yearend! I must say that I am happy for Engeland, they worked really hard to get were they are now, it is really a credit to the setup that they have in place now, Andy and Andrew works well together and all the players believe in themselfs. Well done!

  • smudgeon on August 14, 2011, 7:35 GMT

    I know he didn't do it on purpose, but Ian Chappell sure knows how to bait Indian fans. Even if his arguements are quite reasonable (they are), there's something about the name Chappell which gets Indian blood boiling :)

  • cricmad77 on August 14, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    India rarely have exhibited the ability to pay fast short-pitched bowling, save for a few exceptional players like Sunil Gavaskar. This is not a new phenomenon. What surprises a cricket fan like me is that BCCI has never bothered to set up fast pitches at home in order to encourage fast bowling talent and at the same time enable young batters to get exposed to fast bowling during domestic fixtures. The country has produced batters who are experts in slogging the bowling in flat / dead pitches. Why was not Rohit Sharma playing instead of Raina in England? This is a cruel irony. Hats off to England for a well-deserved series win. This Indian team is bound to get routed in Australia as well.

  • Gupta.Ankur on August 14, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    Write this team off at your own peril........yes the have been ordinary, but loss of form doesn't mean loss of class!

    You can't expect a batting line-up having 50k test runs to fail and do well every time.....

  • Winsome on August 14, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    Ian Chappelll loves winding up Indian fans, but as an Aussie fan, I'd say our attack is about half, if I'm being generous, as useful as the English one (apart from the occasions when Johnson is pretending to be the best bowler in the world) and our batsmen don't exactly frighten anyone. So the answer to the headline is NO.

  • K_RAJEEV on August 14, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    India had never won a series in Australia, the chances of this Indian team , forget winning giving a good fight to Australia is very remote. It is painful to watch team of Dravid, Sachin , Laxman etc getting beaten so badly. Let us send a team of young players to Australia. we will be thrashed badly, but that is more bearable and moreover a good investment for a good future test team. There are very good players in the domestic circuit. let us give them a chance for sometime. We had enough of Sachin and co.

  • donda on August 14, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    Oh. Ian Chappel fina lly you are able to prove your point that indian old cricketers are not good enough. You are right but wait , you were saying this for many years. India did stay at #1 for two years, it's very long time and India should be proud of that. With only one good geniune fast bowler they were able to stay on top. Salute to india and don't listen to Ian chappel because he is just an old man with no understanding of indian culture and cricket.

    Mr. Ian Chappel, it's ok to lose a test series after three years and it's ok to lose #1 spot because it's sports. India was not #1 ODI team but they were able to win ODI WC.

    A world cup win is far bigger than #1 spot. So take your advice to australians and let indians enjoy what they are doing. and don't interept after each series. please.

  • STalluri on August 14, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    India will do well in Australia. Unlike in England, the ball doesnt swing a lot in Australia. So players like Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar and Laxman can play attacking game in Australia. They need to worry about bounce but not swing. Indian batsmen have courage to play pace but where they are struggling is in countering diabolical movement both in the air and off the track.

    But I agree with Ian Chappell India could be exposed in the field. The fielders are not agile and this will have an impact. To overcome this to a certain degree fitness needs to be improved. But when you have a lot of players who are in 30's this will be an issue.

    The bowling is not bad. If Zaheer Khan is fit, there will be three decent bowlers in Zaheer, Ishant and either Sreesanth or Praveen Kumar. Indian bowling failed to deliver in England because of loss of Zaheer and also England batsten are in top form in their home conditions. India need to take a good attacking spinner may not be Harbhajan.

  • Percy_Fender on August 14, 2011, 5:53 GMT

    Like all Australians, Ian has a better word for those Indians who ave done well against them in the past. Nevertheless, I feel his views are fairly objective.I am not sure if either Harbhajan or Zaheer will be ready for the Australian tour. In any case Harbhajan has not been a great success in Australia in the past. Varun Aaron could be a surprise package considering his pace and now his progress as well. India needs tall fast bowlers to support Ishant and RP.Sudip Tyagi did very well in the Emerging players tournament some time ago.Amit Mishra will definitely be very very useful. Youngsters like Ashwin,Iqbal Abdullah and Barghav Bhatt could surprise many in Australia. In the mid 90s people wondered, after Sidhu, Manjrekar and Azhar, who next. Ganguly Dravid and Laxman materialised and history was made. So in the Rohit Sharma, Pujara, Rahan,Tiwari,and Pandey,India could have good batting.After the ignominy of 2000 in Australia,things did look bad for India. Then Eden 2001 happened.

  • Hurricane08 on August 14, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    India's rise to the top co-incided with the decline of other top teams like Australia. The first team to recover has beaten India hollow. South Africa and Pakistan are likely the next two that will push India further down. India peaked around 2006 under Rahul Dravid. It was decline after that culminating in the 2007 World Cup loss. However, Dhoni did bring in a breath of fresh air with new thinking. But the team is now too old to either bat, bowl or field. Half the team is due for retirement. The fact remains that the only person who had the guts to send the non-performers packing, was coach Greg Chappell. So the question is, can the selectors ask the likes of Sachin, Dravid and Bhajji to make way for fresh talent?

  • boris6491 on August 14, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    Although the title of Ian's article I found a bit bold, the premise is no doubt more than valid. I am an Australian fan and have been very pessimistic about our chances in the summer against India. Though, after this England series, it does seem like there are openings in the team, consistency in the bowling has been a well known shortfall although the fallibility of the batting was what surprised me most. Despite the star studded lineup, complemented by some of the most talented young batsmen in world cricket, their inability to string adequate scores together at times has been plain unacceptable. It can, though be conceded that England are just playing extremely good cricket at present which has made India look very average. Australia though, as Ian said, have a plethora of problems on their own. If anything, Ian's belief that the series down under will be more competitive than what we all would have thought a couple of months ago, is very valid.

  • kiranvg on August 14, 2011, 5:43 GMT

    I think ,India should have a opener like Sunil Gavaskar (or may be like Akash chopra ) in the tests .instead of Gautam ghambir let sehwag open one end . and may be gautam at one down dravid at two and so on since the middle order has not been cliking after the great gangully has left may be Irfan pathan could be groomed as an opener just like we had opened with manoj prabhakar (no body would thougtht manoj prabhar would open and he became a succeful opener I only give Irfan pathan a chance since he is an all rounder.Just take a chance (do a gamble for a series tour and see) We should not only concentrate on one particular bowler like harbhajan we should give all them a chance may be a rahl sharm,Ashwin Ojha etc etc series by series. I think where it all went wrong was half the Indian side missed the west Indies tour . They played the entire IPL but missed palying for India, there is no use in regtretting .

  • chandau on August 14, 2011, 5:41 GMT

    Despite "Moneys" picking the OZ side, it does have tallent as seen during the 1st ODI vs SL. They have at least 3 old and 3 young pacies in form, with another 4 out who have been there and done it. The batting is strong (after all only Katich is missing from the lineup) and sooner or later Marsh and Warner will fire and fire rapidly. The only weakness is a good spinner (forget quality - its retired!), but they may get around it particularly if the 4 pacies are in rhythem and Watson also plays well. The advantage of this OZ side is age; maybe Ponting Hussey and Lee are on the other side of 35 whereas bulk of the others are hitting 30 (or way below). It will be a matter of time before the side gels together and becomes a champion side. Sri Lanka should try to be patient and give the OZ a hammering like in the T20s so that they dont gain any + points from this Asian tour. Also it may be a while before another tour so Lanka must make hay while the sun shines.

  • rahulcricindia on August 14, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    i am still proud of my indian team .....they have given us lot of proud moments in the past three years...one really bad series can not change that....many congratulation to england to reach to no.1 spot as they thoroughly deserve it the way they played....but the toughest bit is ahead of them i.e. to maintain it ....especially when they play in alien conditions....not helping their swing bowlers....no doubt that they are best in the world in swinging conditions...but do they have the patience to bowl relentlessly in non-helping conditions...india did able to defend their no.1 spot for sometime...but at sometime bubble has to burst and it did ...but in future surly we are gonna challenge england for that ultimate spot....MR CHAPPELL its too early...you must be to naive if you make conclusions too early..!

  • JPB334 on August 14, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    India very bad test cricket team lose 3 nil against England. Australia winning series 4 nil will happen as India very bad test team and losing 4 nil to England.

  • Masking_Tape on August 14, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    Look buddy, while I am happy that England TRASHED and HUMILIATED Indian in this on going tour, but lets not push it too far. Austraila is in a worse position, and you are in no position to talk. ...

  • timmyw on August 14, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    I think India should be seriously considering Cheteshwar Pujara and Rohit Sharma for permanent test positions in Australia. I think they both have what it takes to do exceedingly well here. Even if they don't it will be an experience for them that will be priceless. After watching the dismal performance in England, India had one or two shining lights, Dravid's form and Praveen Kumar's consistency. Praveen will do well here. I'll reserve my opinion after watching how Australia do against Sri Lanka. I am predicting a 1 or 2-0 loss for the Aussies there. I just don't have confidence in Johnson or Siddle. If we persist with them, India should win in lieu of leaked runs alone.

  • ShadowofRa on August 14, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Why don't they try Ashwin for Test, he is brilliant among the other spin bowlers in India, he is having capacity to take wickets in crucial time.

  • his_majesty on August 14, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    I agree with you Ian, Rohit SHOULD be picked ahead of Raina. Or maybe knowing the BCCI they would pick Anirudha (K Srikkanth) son.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on August 14, 2011, 4:48 GMT

    Lucky for India that Australia's batting lacks application and technique and their bowlers lack patience and discipline. Englands triumph has been based on relentless bowling that has never let India relax and making the most of opportunities when batting. Yes, the Aust v India series seems likely to be less of the stroll it appeared a couple of months ago but I suspect we may see one last hurrah from their Big 3 batting stars plus Sehwag in the face of bowling that doesn't keep them constantly under pressure. Agree that India are coming up for a massive reconstruction. Perhaps they'd like to appoint Andrew Hilditch to run the rule over their spin options?

  • Bollo on August 14, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    Ah Chappelli, stirring the possums already. Love it.

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on August 14, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    Chappell needs to retire to the old folks home. Presumptuous nonsense like this is his hallmark these days.

  • Meety on August 14, 2011, 4:19 GMT

    Good review by Chappelli! I must admit to only seeing glimpses of the first 2 tests but saw some extended highlights of the 3rd Test & India were woeful. The big question (the one I asked during the Ashes), was how much was it from a rampant England side or a seriously underperforming India/Oz? I would add Gambhir to the list of batsmen with a big ?-mark next to their name. I saw a couple of ugly plays against Bresnan bouncers @ less than 140kph - most of the Ozzy bowlers this summer will be faster (better?). The amount of dropped catches were very alarming - it would be deflating for a bowler to cop that. The One big ray of sunshine for India I think is Kumar. He looked good in ODIs in Oz a few years back, he looks even better as a pacer. A 3-prong pace attack of Zaheer, Sharma & Kumar would be a lot better than what a lot of people would credit. I think India should look at playing Singh @#7, Dhoni @ #6 & play one of their other spinners, back their batting stars one more time!

  • Biggus on August 14, 2011, 3:43 GMT

    Settle down Ian. India's in a mess for sure but all is not well on our own patch either. I'm going to duck right about now as I think I hear a Tsunami of outraged Indian posters tapping at their keyboards.

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  • Biggus on August 14, 2011, 3:43 GMT

    Settle down Ian. India's in a mess for sure but all is not well on our own patch either. I'm going to duck right about now as I think I hear a Tsunami of outraged Indian posters tapping at their keyboards.

  • Meety on August 14, 2011, 4:19 GMT

    Good review by Chappelli! I must admit to only seeing glimpses of the first 2 tests but saw some extended highlights of the 3rd Test & India were woeful. The big question (the one I asked during the Ashes), was how much was it from a rampant England side or a seriously underperforming India/Oz? I would add Gambhir to the list of batsmen with a big ?-mark next to their name. I saw a couple of ugly plays against Bresnan bouncers @ less than 140kph - most of the Ozzy bowlers this summer will be faster (better?). The amount of dropped catches were very alarming - it would be deflating for a bowler to cop that. The One big ray of sunshine for India I think is Kumar. He looked good in ODIs in Oz a few years back, he looks even better as a pacer. A 3-prong pace attack of Zaheer, Sharma & Kumar would be a lot better than what a lot of people would credit. I think India should look at playing Singh @#7, Dhoni @ #6 & play one of their other spinners, back their batting stars one more time!

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on August 14, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    Chappell needs to retire to the old folks home. Presumptuous nonsense like this is his hallmark these days.

  • Bollo on August 14, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    Ah Chappelli, stirring the possums already. Love it.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on August 14, 2011, 4:48 GMT

    Lucky for India that Australia's batting lacks application and technique and their bowlers lack patience and discipline. Englands triumph has been based on relentless bowling that has never let India relax and making the most of opportunities when batting. Yes, the Aust v India series seems likely to be less of the stroll it appeared a couple of months ago but I suspect we may see one last hurrah from their Big 3 batting stars plus Sehwag in the face of bowling that doesn't keep them constantly under pressure. Agree that India are coming up for a massive reconstruction. Perhaps they'd like to appoint Andrew Hilditch to run the rule over their spin options?

  • his_majesty on August 14, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    I agree with you Ian, Rohit SHOULD be picked ahead of Raina. Or maybe knowing the BCCI they would pick Anirudha (K Srikkanth) son.

  • ShadowofRa on August 14, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Why don't they try Ashwin for Test, he is brilliant among the other spin bowlers in India, he is having capacity to take wickets in crucial time.

  • timmyw on August 14, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    I think India should be seriously considering Cheteshwar Pujara and Rohit Sharma for permanent test positions in Australia. I think they both have what it takes to do exceedingly well here. Even if they don't it will be an experience for them that will be priceless. After watching the dismal performance in England, India had one or two shining lights, Dravid's form and Praveen Kumar's consistency. Praveen will do well here. I'll reserve my opinion after watching how Australia do against Sri Lanka. I am predicting a 1 or 2-0 loss for the Aussies there. I just don't have confidence in Johnson or Siddle. If we persist with them, India should win in lieu of leaked runs alone.

  • Masking_Tape on August 14, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    Look buddy, while I am happy that England TRASHED and HUMILIATED Indian in this on going tour, but lets not push it too far. Austraila is in a worse position, and you are in no position to talk. ...

  • JPB334 on August 14, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    India very bad test cricket team lose 3 nil against England. Australia winning series 4 nil will happen as India very bad test team and losing 4 nil to England.